Previous: >>499900569>NewsVersion 1.3 "Virtual Revenge" Special Programhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWZKv08DRvsAgent Record | Tsukishiro Yanagihttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/33558382Agent Record | Lighter Lorenzhttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/33586001>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnc00wpAPghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykVaoakTKJYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQPMTJ9rh0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvuV365VO6Q>Upcoming Events for 1.3Full 1.3 details and events: https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/126603"En-Nah" Into Your Lap - Check in to claim 10 free Boopons! - 10/16 - 11/05Roaming the Ether - Complete minigames and recover lost data for the Cunning Hares - 10/16 - 10/28Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup - Double drops for all Routine Cleanup stages - 21/10 - 26/10Vicious Dogs Within - Earn Doggy Vouchers exchangeable for various rewards by playing Soul Hounds III - 25/10 - 11/01141 Friendship Fair - Help Sjal with the Sixth Street market fair and earn rewards - 27/10 - 11/04>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionVIRTUALREVENGE (Exp. after 26th)ZENLESSGIFTHSAHLWFEFEZZZ4PC>Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpilehttps://rentry.org/ZZZFriends
banging . . . BOOS!
>>499920797worth every single GB
First for Anby
So:>From 800% additional Disorder to 600, to 400, to 350, to now at 250%>additional Electric damage after Ex from 45 to 40 to 20%>polarity from 40% of AP to 32%>worse multipliers than an M0 AntonLmao they REALLY want this character to bomb don't they? If they continue like this she'll do -500% Disorder multiplier on release kekMeanwhile her M2 got buffed into the stratosphere (and unlocks a basic gameplay feature, her charged attack). Better pay up gweilo, her M0 is now worse than M1+ Grace and Anton lol.
So now what?
Would chaos jazz be good on Lucy?
post clear times
What are good stats for the characters bros
>>499921192skipping this lame bitch for Lighter
Still needs more nerfs imo.
>>499918748
Do you guys think mibibi will work replacing Jane in a Caesar burnice disorder team
>>499921240>nowtook you long enough
>>499921184why do girls love bullying Eous so much
>>499921240You did ask for another BP extension in the survey, right?
>>499921250It feels purpose-made for a Lucy you build a squad around.I'm pretty sure (but not 100% sure) C6 boars are Assist damage.
what am I in for?
>>499921184>>499921434giwtwm
>>499921537mocktails mixers ice
>>499921194They buffed that to 15% per stack. That's 50% total damage modifier with 2 thrusts.
Shark sex
>>499920674AFAIK mostly bufffng Jane and other disorder-based teams or something, aunnoUniversally, he just pops off bigger AP and a shield, and bonus AM if you can trigger his team passive. Shame he's locked to faction/electric teams for that last very good buff.I find he can proc Electric all by himself pretty fast, even without that team buff.>>499920752Synergy-wise, he's very limited on options. I meant that kind of lame. Gameplay cool, but most think he's just not that good to have.
>>499921184Diapy...
>>499921396Even if the leak is true, it's not something anyone can say until we see damage values. The fact that she is potentially labeled anomaly, means that yes she should just be a viable slot in replacement
Is Yanagi really bad now??????
>>499921672kek
I don't care about Yanagi and I find it so funny seeing all the people that were excited for her lose interest after she gets nerf after nerf. It's almost like she's a personality black hole whose only good points are meta and sex.
I figured out why I like Ellen Joe so much. She reminds me of my GF. Same build, dark hair, lazy, braless.
>>499921672
So Yanagi will get the Qingyi treatment right?
Finally got off my ass and S-ranked all modes. Have around 70+ rolls ready for Yanagi then skipping till Miyabi. Might coinflip Lighter since he seems cool
>>499921784I will still M0W1.
>the deadest of dead patch in ZZZ history is all but confirmedgrim
g-guys...?
>>499921651Seth generally will be good for future anomaly teamspersonally I will be running him in mono-shock roster with Yanagi next patch
>>499921651Thats woo bad. Cant make him work with Piper then. Maybe in the future.
Zzz devs looking at my posts knowing that if I'm rolling for yanagi its obvious she's too strong.
kroni kronk
>>499922102you know what else is too strong
>>499921537She fucks boars
>>499921396freeze is trash for disorder so it'll depend on what her kit actually does
>>499921603So they nerfed her base kit, and then buffed the GAMEPLAY MECHANIC that you need m2 for? Yeah that's a skip.
>>499922251I happen to be a boar
>>499921784I just wanted an Electric dps manif she stays like this I might just roll for Lighter for my S11 and move Caesar to Billy's team
Got a little better again, one of these days I’ll stop being lazy and start playing on pc I guess, but I refuse to try to grind one more second when I have to restart 9 out of 10 times from fucked up grouping. I did end up blowing a couple rolls to get S11 m1 on selector which helped a lot from last time.
>>499921672I miss prime 2hu days...
>>499921192something not getting mentioned enough is they're also hitting her buildup values. her 3rd hit jougen stance did 105, then 89, now 80her 5th hit jougen stance did 196, then 186, now 167daze values were also hit in all areas just for good measure. energy gain and decibel gain were rebalanced, and decibel gain would then get nerfed globally.is this some weird autistic hatred of japan? what justified taking a mid tier seller and nerfing every number on their data page?
>>499921250>>499921532C6 boar drops count as damage from the boars. It's like damage done by bangboos, a separate unit.None of Lucy's stats influence it, outside of the ones stated in her skill (ATK, Crit Rate, Crit DMG, and AP)
>>499921631mi serious bi
>Mr Dawei, we made yanagi bland as possible and people are still planning to roll... What do we do?>WE CANNOT HAVE THIS, NERF HER TO THE GROUND SO THAT PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO ROLL ON THE BACK TO BACK MALE BANNERS AFTER HER
>>499921537Hold attack > EX special > hold attack > EX special
>>499922450replace chinky with nicole if you don't have rina
>fire stunner>buffs icesoulless
>>499922597Mimitummy...
>all those prefarmed disks will be thrown straight into the trash can
Still not rolling for your two homos btw lmao
>>499922675He's both hot and cool
>>499922675>not buffing physical to support his bro BillyDouble soulless.
>>499922597
>>499921537Tons of burn and all the fun
>>499922604If Yanagi ends up being bad, will just save for the idols. My account will have no male characters above lvl 10
>>499922645Chinkyi is my fav though, I swiped for her M3W1 xd. I just need to get a better comp for her but my Corin is M6 W5 from her banner.
>Trannies think we will roll Lighter because of Yanagi nerfs>>>499922450>Corrin not clearing sub 2 mins even with GoddesYi and Lycaon on the same rotation debuffCorrin bwos I think it is over
>>499922675>Get burned>Hot and cold things are now hotter and colder
>two save banners after yanagi>meaning mibibi sales won't be as high as they could be from savers>salesfag shitposters will use this to their homo agenda and say mibibi didn't sell well
It's so fucking owari....
Hoshimer Miyaber
>>499922923Still rolling for her. I see big boobs, I roll. Simple as.
so many balls to upgrade... so little time
>>499922675>Have to make the already T0 homo buff ice to boost sales baiting miyabi pullersPeak souless
>>499922856just play chinky dps lol with nico lucy, this is m1w1
>>499922897>P-people just had longer to save!Getting ahead of the poor sales reports are you?
>>499923089>qy lucy nicolethe ultimate foursome...
>>499923105not rolling lighter or harumasa btw
>>499923105>s-s-stop using logic to defeat my tranny narrative!!!Neck yourself, worthless retard
>>499922450>>499922857I assume he is doing something very wrong. I can consistently go below 1:20 with Corin + Caesar + Qingyi. Lycaon can't be that big of a nerf for that comp.
>>499922815>My account will have no male characters above lvl 10
>Yenless Yen Zero
https://poal.me/5ksdvy>https://poal.me/5ksdvyhttps://poal.me/5ksdvy>https://poal.me/5ksdvyContinue from last thread. What future 5 star will you be rolling?
>>499922923hire me dawei
>>499923232well caesar is +1k atk +25% dmg and lycan is what exactly?
Finally got the pawg bros...
>>499923105I'm not rolling for your homos lmao
if you don't know what is coca please uninstall zzz immediately
Man, I'm never prefarming for a character again. Only reason I was pulling for Yanagi is because I like playing disorder, but now it looks like the DISORDER character isn't even as good as Jane when paired with Burnice. I'll just pick Grace from the selector and save the next 4 banners unless Miyabi really ends up being anomaly.
>>499922286So nothings changed? She was always a skip.
What song are they playing?
>>499922815I think idols, especially the robot, will have groundbreaking record sales and mihomo will sense this and try to gut them to be worse than kot
what would sex with s11 be like?
>>499922558It's either they don't want her to take the shine away from their Raiden expy top seller, make her M2 whalebait or just a genuine dose of hatred of Japan.
>>499921957wasn't 1.1 much deader?
STOP CUMMING INSIDE LITTLE GIRLS
why did she do it
>>499923380Like bowls of noodles.
>>499923089but my wrists hurt anon
>>499922856if you have m3 chinky then you can get rid of lycaon too you dont' need to activate corin's passive with all of chinky's buffs
>>499923395
>>499923290
>>499923395SNIFFFFFFFFFFAH FUCK*SPLURTTT*SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>499923395Hmmm...... nyo *cums inside*
>>499923398WHAT THE FUCK
>>499922558Now Imagine she was nerfed by 60% after she was released because she was absolutely busted?
>>499922562Went to check it in training, and you are right.That's a bit sadge.
>>499923357This, I just wanted a fun Electric DPS'ers with a Disorder gimmick. Now you're unironically better off with Grace. What the fuck are they thinking.
I have M0W1 Q and I wonder if I should get her dupes on her eventual rerun
>>499923290>No Ellen dupes optionShitty poll.
So, which servant is the best for a Caesar+Burnice team?Piper, Jane or Yanagi Lawrence?
>>499923367my bloody valentine - only shallow
>>499923398Pork stew.
I'd like to Pipe her Wheel, if you catch my drift
Why does Yanagi look so happy in this?
>>499923689Mashu
>>499923689Piper.
>the tranny and his apple device
>>499923653I got her M0W0 but I want to make her stronger when her rerun comes around. M1 or C1 is the bigger boost?
>>499923786you know why
>>499923786Wise is groping her ass and its the most action she's gotten in years.
Would it be better if I just use Nekoball on S11 instead of the SAARknight engine?
>>499923786Shes showing Wise(you) her boyfriend who is approaching(me).
>>499923835>2 VotesStill too high
It's fine, stop doomposting.
>>499923689>servant>lawrencekill you're self
>>499923398>>499923696
Yanagi is giga soul now
>>499923994the people freaking out about the nerfs are mathlets
>>499923786Wise is looking so dominant here
Yanagi is an instant skip nowpulling for her is unjustifiable, literally run jane solo alone > yanagi in a full team
>>499924075They truly are Section Soul
Yanagi got nerfed since Harumasa is an Electric Attacker and needs to do more damage than her else the fujos will flip.Fujos buy merch. You NEVER piss off the fujo cabal, they got fat wallets and witch magic and shit
>>499922597Miyabi sex
Harumasa will definitely be busted to make up for this blunder.
interknotbros... my sister keeps raping me and it's taking a big toll on my physical health, i don't think i can even feel my cock and balls anymore, as if it's detached from my body... what do i even do
>>499921396Yanagi doesn't even have faction buffs she can't play with Miyabi or Soukaku
>>499924165I see two good reasons to roll for Yanagi.
Is Yanagi still worth it for a newfag (don't have burnice but have caesar)
>>499924267look at this cutie
still not pulling Fagter and Homomasa
Should I get C6 Soukaku and use her as an ice DPS unit?
Wait, I just realized somethingSOC's Steeltusk's container trailer is like 60% mobile barIt can't haul shit with that capacit
>>499924432go for it champ
>>499924352no
is steel cushon actually worse than starlight engine for S11?
>>499924352No, you better roll Lighter or Harumasa now
>>499924267what a cute girl, when can we roll for her?
>get Kot as my first S rank>lose Caesar 50/50 to Kot>lose Burnice 50/50 to KotI think this Kot like me
>>499924278Run to the police station
>probably american testesrs (certified 90% faggots) calling Yanagod too op to keep nerfing her>Homomasa will still be the most flopped banner of Hoyo's historyKek
>>499924432yesshe's surprisingly strong with the right team
>>499924352Nah unless you really like her, better save for miyabi, jane/zhu rerun or a new better dps
>>4999245364 more Kots and you will have strong DPS
>>499924539>run to the police station>get raped by zhu
>>499922923her cons all suck anyway
>>499924536>get Kot as my first S rankshould've rerolled your seed right then and there
>>499922450>BTFO'd by the mobile player againFUCK.Now I NEED to get that clear.
>>499922797she doesn't look like this anymore
>>499923357>>499923627no way they made her worse than Grace
>Sir, a second wave of nerfs have just hit Yanagi quarters
>>499924615>don't have the knotIt's over>It's overIt's over>It's over
>>499924536one kot and another kot
>Make a complex character>nerf her to not only be weak but to also be unable to take advantage of the many mechanics in her kitwhy though, I wouldn't mind if she was weak with a way to make strong like Kot and S11They didn't even move the power to her w-engine or cinema they just removed it
>>499924835it's actually up to 4, I'm pretty sure
You rike Ranagi??Better pull M2 for playable character now gweirro PAY UP
>>499924536>68% crit>122% crit damageYou don't deserve her. Give me your cats.
Why'd Mihoyo make all the teen girls in this game so protectable?
Hodl, brothers.
Is 4pc shockstar a scam for an off-field Koleda?
>>499924835as long as they don't nerf her hind quarters we're good
>got Rina as my first S rank way back when the game launched>everybody said I should reroll because she's competing with the kot for the worst standard S rank slot and that Grace was the best, most future proof standard S-rank character>keep her because she's hot>fast forward to now>everybody says Rina is the best, most future proof standard S rank and Grace is competing with the kot for the worst standard S rank slotWho's laughing now, huh?
>new paradigm is PvP events where you have to win to get rewards>they won't even give a tutorial for itit's fucking grim, they aren't even trying
>>499924267Grace is the better sub dps anyway
>>499925232
I feel demoralised now to getting Yanagi even though she's still gonna be powerful.I got Grace recently. Can I just make do with her for a LightningDPS
>spats instead of pantsuRuined...
I will top Qingyi if you know what I mean
>>499925175Kinda yeah. I just use 4pc proto on her.
>>499924518Depends on what are you running an how are you running it.S11 gets a lot of free DMG% from her Core Passive and some extra DMG% from her Additional Passive.So, on average Combat ATK% from Starlight is better than 25% DMG from the Cushion.But if you run her with, say, Caesar and Lucy, and mostly use her for her EX and Ultimate, Starlight wouldn't be as good.
>>499925124>Clara>Teen
>>499924835Yeah, and they're fucking heavy too. Across the board. Never mind the attack multipliers, her disorders got a massive nerf too. They're really making it hard to have much confidence in her ability.
>>499925071No, hand over your disks so I give them to my kot
>>499924352She is good. She was just too OP before the nerfs. She is Jane tier.>>499924520Lol. No.
I blame jstern for this
>>499925124no one thinks you're a teenager Clara stop larping
>>499925474>>499925071>>499924939>>499924536
>>499925453Pavol will definitely be the Idols' producer.
>>499925435I was thinking the same with with 2pc shockstar. Losing out on the 2pc proto kind of sucks but the 15% damage bonus with almost full uptime seems to make up for it
>>499925425Mods will fix that
>>499925517Fuck this fat faggot, pays $5000 to roll every agent and ball, refreshes 8 times daily for battery to get perfect discs and still clears slower than F2P players
>>499925232Why is mibibi like this?
Remember to treasure your sister, bwos
>>499925513She was "Jane tier" before these nerfs. She cannot be "Jane tier" now that she's been nerfed again. They nerfed everything from damage multipliers, daze values, her special disorder, her passive damage scaling, AND her anomaly buildup.
>>499925648>>499925517
[Bad news]Yanagi was nerfed...[Good news]Harumasa is a must-roll for electric teams.
selling my account, i wasted 2 weeks of resources prefarming for yanagi and now she is a skip characteraccount has burnice + weapon at extremely high stats, can clear shiyu 7 in under minute with just burnice lucy, interested hit me upasia server
Just pull for Yanagi's gigabuffed M2/M6
>>499925757Anton > faggotmasa
guys, I fixed yanagi
>>499925164With the state of the next 4 banners, I'm holding so hard.
>>499925771>prefarming>ever
>>499925282>PEN >Goodrinafafgs are cringe
At the rate these character betas are going I might just pull lighter and save for miyabi and qingyi rerun. Its beginning to feel like vertical investment on flexible supports does more for your teams than rolling a c2 bait fotm dps.
>>499922558>is this some weird autistic hatred of japanYes. All the limited genshin not-japan characters are literally unusable in the very next region
>>499925771>souless metabug>asia serverLMAO
>>499925380>Can I just make do with her for a LightningDPSYes, and don't let anyone here tell you otherwise. Every character that people call a brick here is clearing Shiyu in <45s without whaling if you go search YouTube for clear vids. Even Anton. Not having Burnice does limit Grace's potential though.
>>499925685she was 30-40% stronger than Jane initially 600% disorder buff was giga powercreep, then she was electric Jane now she might be worse than Grace because of how bad her anomaly build up is
>>499922558japan is fucking cringe anyways and I'm glad gooks and chinks stole their anime style
>>499925903i even upgraded fusion compiler to level 60, now its going to go unusedunironically lost interest in the game with this news
>>499923835ya know I actually dont understand why people think trannies are into ikementhey're formally men who turn in to "futa females" or "a hole for their bara husband"
On monday they'll slash all her stats in two. She's still too good.
>>499925878
>>499925771>PrefarmingRetard everyone knows prefarming fucks your 50/50
>>499925757I'm not interested in Electric until they add a JK or loli DPS.
>>499924518From a brute stand point, if you can keep the buff up, starlight S5 is better, while you craft more starlight copies you can use cushion. And also nigga are you retarded? Housekeeper is a 72% dmg bonus on EX usage and it givesCorrin the much needed energy regen.>>499925445If you just want her for EX and ultimate spam then Gilded is a decent choice, it makes her EX nuke for like a 3rd of her ultimate
>>499926091There's no way they're leaving a limited char weaker than a standard char.
They're banking on mibibi being a top seller but she'll probably be slap bang in the middle in terms of sales
yanagi still needs to be nerfed at least another 40% or some shit, this numbercreep just isn't acceptable
Mibibros, would you still roll if she got nerfed all the way down to kot tier?
>>499926258>Corrin the much needed energy regen.Corin doesn't need ER and steel cushion is her BiS engine.
>>499926179This. We need her to give negative Disorder multiplier just like Koleda had negative Impact buff on launch lol.Can't have anyone beat my Aniki and Cutemasa
>new player>lost 50/50 to the furryShould I just buy starter account? What's the chance of getting banned over it?
>>499926220I suspect one of the obol characters will match this description
>>499925757Chadton>Midmasa
>>499926207This but unironically. Besides the prefarm breaking point determining your 50/50, every material gathered for that agent until that point pushes you closer to pity
>>499926351what kind of question is that?no
>>499926351Yes, meebs deserves my rolls
milk
>>499926351I will only roll for Mibibi is she has duo animations with Soukaku
>>499926351I've already mentally committed to the M6
will they stop making m*le banner if homomasa and lighter flop really hard?
>>499926565That'd be fun.
>Yanagi went from the best character in the game to the best character in the gameThe amount of melties & dooming im seeing are hitting astronomical levels
>>499926315her clear times were only 5 seconds faster before this nerf
Janebros we wonImagine not having pulled the best DPS for the next three years lmaoHope the ugly bland bitch gets nerfed into the ground even more, hve fun with your Anton downgrade LMAO
>>499926368>character mindscapes scale with EXOk faggot, keep weaving your "2 more weeks" autos.
>>499921192People were already hitting 1 mil disorders, I doubt an 8x multiplier for that would ever hit a live server.
>>499926398Low chance of getting banned. I bought my 3.5 year old genshin account from ebay. Theres better places to get them now. The only thing that sucks is my username is a bunch of random characters and I can't figure out how to change it.
Still not gonna buy your Jane account
>>499926643>not listed: the global 15% reduction to anomaly buildup
>six weeks of skip patches after yanagiMan what a breather. We've been eating so good we can finally hoard resources for a while.
>>499926673but I love all beautiful elderly women and I will roll for all of them?
>>499926345Who is the best selling and worst selling unit?
>>499926643It is just the usual spammer trying to convince people to roll for males with tons of samefag posts.
>>499926345Miyabi is an attacker with no synergy with Yanagi, Miyabi's sales will be lower if everyone skips Yanagi
>>499926728It's not a multiplier you retard, it's additiveOn average at this point she'll only provide a measly 20ish % bonus to disorder damage.
>They nerfed Yanagi againWhat is the angle here? Did they just gave up completely on making money with this game?
>>499926853The first one. The current one.
>>499926351yeah I don't think I'll ever stop being a katanafagI'd roll for the naginata lady but I'm out of polys and haven't touched anything from this patch aside from the limited time events
>>499926601Lighter won't flop, he's too kino
Qingyi a cute
i have around 250 pulls right now, do i just go for burnice cinema 2? yanagi went from must pull to a skip for me
mihoyo was actually extremely close to releasing a electric hag with a strong kitclose shave there dawei, the situation was stabilized just in time
>>499926398>Should I just buy starter account?Knot is the best starter character and opens up whole new options for teambuildingBurnice is a luxury meme for anomaly teams onlyGive the furfag a chance
>>499921784We'll see how smug you are when they nerf your favorite into the ground
>>499926728please learn how disorder is calculated tyvm
>>499926936You roll M2 to make her slightly better than Anton and Grace or you skip, simple as
>>499926690Retard, chain + EX + ult take the entire stun window, you're not using basics.
rate my new custom bangboo
>>499926870I wonder he's getting around the impregnable wall of the 15 minute wait. Surely the mods wouldn't put out a half-assed measure to stop spammers that any idiot with a proxy can around, nyo?
>>499925282Grace is the one on a top speedkill team, not Rina, try again.
>>499926991Harumasa will. Not even homo like him.
Dawei called ZZZ dev and demanded the electric queen seat to remain vacant until Raiden expy released next year.
>>499921985
are those last changes or they can nerf her even more
>>499926543megamilk
>>499926758I'm getting BP and tons of time I'm out of exp books and mora.My Piper is my main DPS and she is only level 55
>>499924875I run Caesar/Nicole with her. That shield comes in handy when I fuck up and lock myself into a long animation right as an enemy is attacking.
Harumasa bags the yumecoin.
>>499927235>lucy's boars freaking outkek, cute
>>499927139>not JiggabooYou had one job.
>>499927235>JP dubew
>>499927270>or they can nerf her even moreYes, in preload data.
>>499926972Burnicebros.. we lost..
>>499926936I don't know what they're thinking honestly. The multipliers were already nerfed into the ground, why even bother nerfing them further? For the 0.001% of players who were still going to try crit Yanagi?
>Yanagi keeps getting nerfed to make sure that Miyabi will keep her undisputed Anomaly carry title I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU YANAGIBWOS
>>499927318Do you find she works well enough without the Element synergy she gets in an Ice team?
wake me up if they nerf her model nobody cares about numbers in a game where 95% of your power is locked behind gear
>>499926690How are you having energy issues with Corrin in Shiyu?
>>499922597vagina bonessniff sniff
Post your wideyabi memes, soon enough they will no longer accurately reflect her ingame.
>>499927270There's a small chance she gets a qingyi gigabuff before release but don't count on it. Unfortunately>electro hag
>>499927329>Yume's no longer aim for big important handsome men>twinky fagboy subordinates are good enoughdamn, even female standards are falling...
Imagine having rolled Burnice purely to use her for fun Disorder spam with Yanagi only to nerf that character into the ground. What's the fucking point even of going for "the Disorder character" when you can simply use solo Jane and do 60% more damage with crit assaults??
>>499927729kek
>>499927139I like it, what is his ability?
>>499927270That's what worries me. They just nerfed her and won't have time to properly test if it was too much or not. It's like they just gave up and nerfed everything because they couldn't find a way to make her balanced.>fuck it, dumpster her
>>499927645retard
>>499927103her M2 is a worse version of Burnince's M2 just get Burnice's M2
>>499927737This is why I don't immediately roll when a character drops>inb4 you are missing the hot period
I regret prefarming for Yanagi Lawrence
>>499927729
>>499927729Wtf
>>499927737Burnice doesn't need Yanagi. Just play her with Piper and she deletes stuff.
>>499927736t- mad homosexual
>>499927737shut the FUCK upnobody wants to hear about jane doing 1 million crit assaults by herself right nowread the room autist
>>499926804Stop rolling for evil women
>>499927737Funny enough both Jane and Burnice are fine.They're good enough to hyper carry their own teams, Jane especially, but are also great togetherI really hope for Yanagi fans that she'll end up being alright or in a similar spot by the time she launches
>>499927273
>>499927848steal dennies from enemies and spend it on useless shit before the match ends
>>499928004Her legs are canonically so sexy that she is forced to wear long skirts or people won't be able to concentrate with her around.
>>499927618I hate when they play favorites like this.>here's decent unit>nerf>here's an already OP unit>buff>buff again
>>499927849How was she not balanced?Her core skill was in line with Jane's assault crits while being harder to achieve. Thunder metal is a good set but it won't make up for it.
>>499927967shouldn't yumes want a chad?
>>499921106Are you ready to ORA ORA ORA
I am upset and my day is ruined
>>499928210>they killed TV mode for thisfucking awful
>>499928124
>>499928049Why don't more people use Jane+Burnice? They don't have synergy?
>>499928143What's this? Did they update her model?
Corin cute little fingers
>>499928210I was really hoping they'd fix his leg animations for this before release. Its really embarassingly low effort compared to everything else in the game, it looks unfinished.
>>499928282I have hope for the new TV mode
>>499928302>>499928124
>>499928336YesNo more wide memesSave them all as long as you can bwo they'll become vintage soon
>>499928323you dont need to clear content in 20 secondsjane and burnice will form two separate complete teams
>>499928184Fujos have always loved affeminate twinks, Kpop is the prime example of that
>>499924487trucks can attach different parts. Unattached they look like this
>>499928323two limiteds is a lot to ask for povertypags.
Rina is the only character where I have a dedicated legs folder
>>499928484Uh fujos are different from yumes...
OUR HERO HAS SPOKEN
>>499928049I'm just glad they can't nerf Jane since she's already out. Maybe this is some kind of correctional panic where they realized things were getting out of hand and are now trying to reign in the powercreep, not realizing it's way too late for that.It won't even help Miyabi, since people will just skip Yanagi and have more currency => won't have to spend a dime to get katana fox
>>499928484Fujos and Yumes aren't the same thing
I reached wave 25 on zombies.
>>499928434Why? it's a fucking 1 and done, TV mode was only good when it was an interactive way to do the story modebut they ripped and gutted that part because HSR whiners and youtubers bitched about it.SO instead we get a retarded fighting game mode, a TV mode you run once for a limited event, and then never again, and story mode is just 2 cahracters giving the flouride stare as they emotionlessly dump the plot at you
>>499928439
>>499928387sex acts without her consent
>>499928494>>499924487/zzz/ has the highest IQ conversations of any /vg/ board
I just started and I am on chapter two. Any general tips? Should I roll on Burnice if I only have 50 tapes? Should I roll for Bamboos?
>>499928147Its always a bad idea to follow betas. It didn't used to be this way, nerfs were rare, but lately about half of hoyo betas have been absolute bloodbaths. Its definitely devs playing favorites, and if your character isn't their favorite then good luck.
>>499928004Rina isn't evil, she's a sweetcake.
retard
>>499928323>field-hogging whore + burnice on one side of Shiyu and mediocre A-ranks on the otherOR>field-hogging whore + seth on one side and burnice + piper on the other
>>499928323Jane+Burnice is one of the strongest teams. It's just kind of overkill and you're better off using them on separate sides.
>>499928746Drink your coffee everyday and only drink Tin master special.
>>499928703>Why?Because I fear we will never get TV like we used to so I need to cope with what we have
>>499925232Thiren is a violent bitch who could've seen this coming...
>>499928746>Should I roll on BurniceYes.>But I-...Yes. Roll for Burnice>Bu-...>Burnice is great. Roll for her.
>>499928746Burnice is a brick, if you roll for her then you're a stupid bitch.
>>499928894But she's the lowest selling banner, why would I roll for the worst one?
>>499928184they seem to like lighter plenty enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F87QWiISBg&t=2471s
guess who is now skipping yanagi and will spend $0 on miyabii need jane c1 really badly
>>499928780Reminder she was prepared to kill you if needed be to preserve the secret
>>499928282It's kino unlike TV slop howthoughever.
How can I make this Corin clear shiyu defense?
>>499928589This is Hoyo we're talking about. Once its time to shill Crit dps characters again they could just add in more of those towers/constructs that don't take Anomaly damage, make them tanky and boom, depending on how tanky they are you might be forced to stick a Crit dps on that side or slot one in your team just to clear it.However, seeing how casual it is right now and the general direction for ZZZ, I highly doubt they'd go that routeWorst case slap a crit dps set on your Anomaly and clear it anyway
>>499928969I thought you were asking in good faith.My mistake.
>>499928761>slopcop>last minute buffs on a damage multiplier that's very rare and valuable>yanagi>3 separate rounds of nerfs to every stat and multiplierIs this what they meant by ZZZ having a new team?Should disciplinary action be taken?
>>499928780You haven't tried to eat her sweetcakes.
>>499929048>stun the enemy>pull out your Corin>rape>S rank clearthat's it
>>499928780She literally interrogates and slowly tortures a mercenary to his death off-screen...
>>499929115I was, until you gave a weird cult-like answer and would explain WHY I should roll for her
>>499929132Just stop being obsessed with numbers that arent confirmed for release, its really that simple.
bob
>>499929102>Once its time to shill Crit dps characters againIt's OK I'm already set
>>499929012Lighter isn't a twink loser like Harumasa though.
>>499929014Yeah, they shot themselves in the foot with this. Making many attractive/balanced units is far better than making half of them trash and then a few of them indispensable. That just means everyone skips the bad ones and saves up for the good ones. No reason to spend.
>>499929201stop raping everything
>>499922815>idolsI'm new in town, who dis?
>he's still seething over the stun buff of a character whose banner ended 2 months ago
>it's ok guys the ominous ghost lady and her murderous schizoboo ghostlings is not evil
More importantly, why did they suddenly skip ahead from 1.3.4 to 1.3.9???Is this like their experimental build or some shit? Also why would you test out these nerfs on your public server literally the day after you character got revealed?
>>499929265It harms faith in the developers though. Even if she was completely busted before the nerfs, why the fuck didn't they run the numbers beforehand? No matter how you spin it, heavy nerfs (or buffs, but that's more rare) is a sign of someone screwing up.
>>499929319>half of them trash There hasnt been a bad limited S rank since release dont be retarded.
>>499929132kek, the megaflop even caused a severely autistic retard to melt down for months. Jane really raped its mind.
>Game already getting skip patches>When it's been on a downward trend Not good bwos.
>>499929319Retards like you are why HSR is borderline unplayable nowadays.Basically every S-Rank is also still better than the last in this game, too.
>>499929336
>>499927629Ehhhh... it's okay. If you have her sig she can deal decent enough damage to clear Shiyu, but it will be a little slower than a standard Lycaon team. She's very reliant on ice dmg.
>>499929442buffing Qingyi was a good thing she was garbage before Caesar would have been the best stunner even before her giga buffs
>>499921537fun
>>499928879All they need to do is just up the visual flare. Like why do we not have TV mode portray the shit that actually goes on in the hollow from Eous' visual PoV through a screen like conversations, dialogue, events tiles. The inter-knot quest posts that have neat animations to them have more flare. Why not use that as the basis?
>>499929442Who are you quoting? I didn't see any seething.Do you have a severe mental illness? That image is often used by someone with a severe mental illness so I think so.
What the fuck happened? Did the >woman devs from genshit get imported to zzz or something? Why the needless slew of nerfs? For a while I thought they were doing so well with all the chars from QY till Burnice. It's so fucking weird that Nagi gets this out of nowhere.
Nerfnagi lol
>>499929048Qingyi+Rina+Corin just werks
>>499929573I'm just talking mihoyo in general. ZZZ has managed alright up to this point but we'll see if the trend continues.
>>499929259Roll her if you like her, she's a good unit but that's it
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>>499929102Don't forget what an absolute joke HSR was until they added MoC12. It's way too early to tell if the game will continue to be casual friendly or not.I think it likely will because the devs are very responsive to the player base, and they keep adding "real" challenge modes like 2 sets of don't die Shiyu/Bloody Palace, but that doesn't mean that by Miyabi's release the enemies in Shiyu won't have 30mil HP.
>>499929791ywnbaw
>>499929791>Never fixed the bangsRuined..
>>499929772>why the nerfsbecause they realized they powercreeped too hard?and the limited units are way too good compared to free units and they realized that causes people who are starting out or are behind the curve to get super demoralized and leave?
>>499929645sniffsniffsniff
>>499929527x.9 version are content creator builds, numbers are locked for the youtuber retards to play and prepare their videos
>unlock notorious hunts>fight some motherfucking riding an ethereal motorcycle>he radahns into the sky and then fights me with his bike as a weaponfuck, that's coolest mihomo boss I've seen since back when I played HI3wish Genshin would get shit like this instead of faggot ass whales (actual) that spend 90% of the fight in an unhittable state
>>499929012I literally look like him.
>>499929962You don't try to sell a limited character weaker than a standard character.
>>499921784I like Yanagi's legs.Plus, anyone to make Burnice better...
>>499929764I don't think that image has ever been attached to a decent post in this thread
I think they should delete another 1/3rd of Yanagi's damage
>>499929962why would they care if standards were powercrept?
>>499930096Yanagi isn't weaker than Grace retard
>still seething
>I think your sofa has room for one more besides your sister!Burnice, what the fuck are you talking about?
>Yanagi the supposed unbricker of Burnice keeps getting nerfed>Bricknice's banner is still not selling even as we approach pay day on JP/CNI wonder if they think that Tik Tok dances = popularity when players know now that dumping money on bricked units "because it looks hot" only applies to trannies whose IQ has been hormonally lowered.
>>499930067I never said they needed to be weaker but the pwower creep on limited units is way out of hand right now to the point where the game is significantly harder if you don't pull certain core limited unitsthat is a problem, limited units should be good but you can't make them as good as they are now without causing issues
Slopcop will be a mental illness icon forever at this rate.
There is nothing evil about sticking fingers in your master's butt.
Get fucked blandnagi faggots get kneecapped, get fucking kneecapped boring bitch enjoy your Anton downgrade lol
I'm starting to believe that filthy South Asian subhumans post here.Please convince me otherwise.
>>499929894You CANNOT compare a turn based Gacha game to this. They're fundamentally different because you're just slapping numbers against each other without much input. Those games need aggressive powercreep or else you'd have the biggest convoluted mess of a game, look at Yugioh Master Duel
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bros I think he's mentally ill no one mentioned his waifu and he won't stop posting her
zzz... zzz...
>>499930159are you retarded? the whole point is where the average person is power level wise vs where the whales areyou have to keep the whales within a reasonable amount of reach to the average player and the average new F2P to not turn people away
Its funny how I was the first one to predict burnice was going to be bad.
>>499930185Stop fucking just your sister
>>499930352ENNAH-NEH (Wake up!)
>>499929645>leotard-skirtlame, pure skirts are sexo-er
>>499930224seeing as the devs can see the actual revenue and aren't just speculating sensor tower Burnice probably did fine
>>499921182>That thigh jiggleMein gott. I need her
The premier Electric DPS.You HAVE to roll for him or you're never clearing Shiyu ever again
>>499929645i dont know which child i want to penetrate the most out of the three
>>499929521It's ok to be evil as long as you're sexy
>>499930283Not the point, point is early game is useless metric. As I said, HSR didn't get bad powercreep until later on. They can easily just treble or quadruple enemy HP to make Shiyu unwinnable by A-ranks. HI3 isn't turn-based and it's at the point now where every character that came out before part 2 is utterly useless. They can easily do that in ZZZ if they want.
>1729965974655.jpg>Error! No results found.This guy is so obvious.
>>499930276No one will convince you otherwise because it is true.
>>499929645>sariel>johiel>remielWeird ahh names
Haven't you guys leaned from Qingyi? Yanagi will be just fine, and she'll be better than Grace. Come on now.
>>499921537Snacks that are real nice
>>499930395yeah I'm not reading any of that
>jstern25 is online>0 posts about it.........
>>499930590Going from a turn based Gacha game (notorious for aggressive powercreep) to a game from 2016. Take Genshin if you so badly want to compare it to something relevant that is from recent-ish times
>>499930638
jstern25
>>499929772Why do you fucking retards WANT every DPS to be 30% better than the previous one?Nagi seems to be about as good as Jane even after the nerfs, and Jane is by far the strongest DPS.
>>499930236The thing is she was already decently stronger than limiteds before this recent nerf, not even mindblowingly broken anymore. It's so fucking weird how and why they would go out of their way to make her weaker than limited now.
>>499930605kek
>>499930605LolI wonder what makes someone do this
Qingyi won tho
>>499930605>3 hours spamming the lowest tranny-tier baitsHoly shit
>>499930638>doesn't recognise angel namesSEA?
>>499930761Oh shit they're christian names? didn't know never read the bible
>>499925926>PEN >GoodYes. We're finally reaching "endgame" for our accounts, so PEN has more value when stats become more bloated.
I just hope she'll still be usable. Maybe the devs just shat the bed with the initial numbers and she really did need all these nerfs in order to not completely break the game. It makes me anxious though, with just how heavy-handed these have been.
>>499930801all me
>>499930638>ebonics
>>499930650Qingyi is Chinese and represents the honorable and harmonious Chinese Police ForceYanagi is Japanese and represents genocide, infanticide, labor camps, and facismIt's only natural she got nerfed into the ground, bitch is basically Hitler
>>499930903no they're jewish names
>>499930790>limitedI meant standard of course
>>499930746Genshin has been powercreeping lately too and multiple characters in that game are basically useless.But Genshin added an entirely new mode that f2p can't clear because they don't have enough characters, instead of making Abyss harder and harder (abyss is still getting harder). Are or you going to try and defend theater as something other than a blatant cash grab? I'm sure every F2p Player has 8 characters of every element level 70 or higher so they can clear any IT configuration.The age of HI3 is also irrelevant as it constantly gets updated and gets new characters as frequently as other Hoyo games. There is no defending them making characters that game out 8 months ago useless now.I'm not saying ZZZ will have powercreep or not, but again, seeing how "casual friendly" it is right now is utterly worthless. We do not know how it'll be in 6 months.
>>499930903they're not specifically christian names they're old angelic names in every religion of the book>>499930809HRT, unironically
>>499930903not in the bible, some jewish texts
>>499929102>slap a crit dps set on your Anomaly and clear it anywayI lucked out so hard because all my AP focused disks also have crit on them and I have extra D4 crit main stat disks with blessed substats+AP.
>>499929962Are you new to gachas? Standards are always weaker than limiteds. That's entirely within expectations. And limiteds are still "free", you just have to save for them.If anything, powercreep can be good for new players. It just means that they can start out strong if they roll the newest unit, instead of having to build a stable of 6+ characters just to be at the same level as established players.
>Yanagi comes out>"oh no they're powercreeping grace already? t's fucking over">devs nerf Yanagi so grace is still viable vs her>"what the fuck they're making bricks from day 1 now? fucking genshin fujo devs"you people are insufferable
how does she float
I still think Yanagi is too strong THOUGH.
>>499930774The caveat with nagi is she needs another character of the same caliber to be stronger than jane. Meanwhile jane being a selfish hypercarry is good almost entirely on her own.
a certain dev was behind these nerfs
>>499931237She has a mutation that gives her electric powers.
don't open, it's quingyi cubes
>>499930275>anomalyRetard
They are nerfing Yanagi so they don't make Bricknice posters too upset.
>>499931198>are you new to gachasnoand you didn't read a single thing I said or you're ESL as fuck, I never said Limiteds can't be better than standard or free units but the power creep in this game is out of control and it's only been out for 3-4 months. They need to desperately reign it in before it gets out of control and in 6 months the free units and standard banner units are uneless and bricks for clearing shiyuu and endgame content.
>>499930961DESU 800 fucking multiplier on disorder was stupid, why did they even code that to begin with, it would have oneshotted story bosses with a future ether anomaly unit. They keep lowering her attack scaling because they don't want any crit rate bullshit builds as some retards already tried forcing it with Burnice. I will pull her as long as she is not brick-tiered tied to Burnice. Because if she is and people pull they will keep releasing non-universal units just like Ceasar.
>>499931207You can use them in the same team after v3 anyway
>>499931370too late, I got CUBED
>all of the wideyabi pics will soon be a rare collectibleThoughts?
>>499930903el literally means god in hebrew
CN is rioting right now lol, they are NOT happy holy shit
>>499928081Do you think the small of her back is an erogenous zone?
>>499931341Grace dev strikes again no Electric is allowed to be stronger or have bigger tits
>>499930590Anon, what HSR has isn't power creep but design creep and devs learning.Early on gacha always release generalist characters that simply work, but later on specialists get released. Those will always be better in their niche, and will feel drastically better when shilled on top, but they are worse outside of that.Likewise most grave mistakes in characters released are in the first year. Be it broken, but also useless characters. Due to Genshin having issues with broken, HSR tried hard to not repeat this, and.. well. They may have been too careful.I'm currently playing a gacha that is heading towards of the end of its third year.The vast majority of year 1 is outdated and not usable.A good chunk of year 2 is still BIS.Year 3 has the least amount of clear "must haves" added due to all elements having plenty of choice and the increases or decreases being fairly minimal and situational. I.e. you gain 10% more damage but are single target instead of aoe.And this gacha is by the masters of power creep. They also make Another Eden...
>>499931112>they don't have enough charactersI'm not defending anything but anyone that has been playing for a long time or from release will have more than enough characters built by naturally rolling for limited characters to still be fine. If you start late then don't expect to have an easy time as F2P any time soon as it'll take time to catch upHI3 is an outdated mess from 2016, the company has gone through so many phases since that it's worthless comparing it to anything
>>499930708Go suck eceleb cock somewhere else
>>499930903>newfag zoomers never got to dip into jewish magic and kabbalah cosmology in /x/ threads because of Evangeliongrim
>>499931341based gracedev
did lighter get any nerfs at all?
>>499931459>CN going schizo for office lady #4854Jesus Christ, why won't they go schizo for censor or other more important things
>>499929812Does Corin go 4pc Puff electro in this? I have a loaded D4 Puff for both Rina and Corin each so I think I can just reall deep with the Pen ratio.
>>499931198>powercreep is good for new playersyou can't be serious rofl this is some serious cope
>>499931198Only idiots and poorfags cry about standard characters getting powercrept. It's actualy healthier for the community if the standard characters get replaced early on in the game, because otherwise people like Ellenfags would be waiting 6 months (to hit 300) or forever (to lose a 50/50 to a target character) to put together a BiS team. Like, who the fuck plays Soldier and is legitimately upset that Koleda is being replaced by a far superior character for her? Nobody. And the characters that are "powercreeping" aren't so strong that you need them to clear, you can just skip them and keep using your Lycaon for months if you want.It's totally retarded mentality. Most players don't even own 1/2 of the standard characters. Like anyone seriously gave a shit that Jane is the best phys attacker and not Neko (or even Piper). C'mon.
>>499931207>"oh no they're powercreeping grace already? t's fucking over"literally no one said that. she was expected to be a solo disorder for an electro team, you fucking chong shill and a liar
>>499930774Oh, did you calculate this just now? Care to show the class?
On those doors that let you either remove or obtaining a corruption to open them, is there any purpose to obtaining a corruption? Do they give exclusive ones or some shit?
Is there even a way to make a turn-based Gacha game grow insanely popular without crazy powercreep or relying on skins
Don't mind me, I'm just archiving this thread because it goes to show how big of a meltdown one single hagfag can have when a hag gets nerfed
>>499931727>literally no one said thatretard
>>499931237I don't know but it has current
>>499931292Jane has 3 dodges.She's the best without competition.
>>499926901>Miyabi is an attackerGood joke
yo chat could you explain to me how can this be real?
>>499931678In the sense that new players can be guaranteed to get the shiny new unit and not brick themselves by not waiting for a specific broken character to rerun.
>>499931814Collab with popular franchise every other week.
>>499931835I want to be the electricity licking her thighs
>>499931892Burnice + Piper is good, plus current Shiyu gigabuffs Anomalies. You won't see 7 digit numbers anymore once Shiyu stops buffing Anomalies
>>499931892Burnice and Piper is whack
>>499931787No, it's just to fuck you over when you want to access the bank without any corruptions.
>>499931837And she should be nerfed for that, teh fact she>has the best anomaly buildup of any unit>has attacker level damage>has 3 dodges and great animations for avoiding damageall in a game where that is not only favored, but practically necessary is too muchthe dodges are way too much IMO especially since they decided that the endgame here should be dodge/shield or get 2 shot by a boss
>>499931341It's over for non-belobog electric units
>>499932021>>499932029its an asssault tho not a disorder
>>499931635https://zzz.hakush.in/character/1161?v=1.3.4https://zzz.hakush.in/character/1161?v=1.3.9maybe they didn't update it?
>>499931837I never understood Jane having 3 dashes thing. Is it a meme?
>>499926169Gay erasure. Normal gay people no longer exists, they're all secretly female.
>>499931865
>>499931787lol it was there just to punish you for not having any corruption.
>>499932074yes, and?you can get those numbers by ulting as Piper
>>499931865Thank you jstern25
>>499931926>you're guaranteed a shiny new unityou are not, I started on Jane's banner and didn't get her in 100+ pullsnow it turns out she is mandatory because she is insanely necessary and goot att everythinghow does this benefit me as a new player to this game?
>Jane doomposters STILL lamenting at their forever bricked accountYou love to see it
>>499932136>Is it a meme?No, you can dodge three times with her instead of 2.
>>499931827stop posting already it's insanely repetitive
Even here people fell for the nerfed meme.. Couldn't imagine bricking my account by skipping Yanagi. It's literally Caesar all over again.
>she is mandatoryokay this is bait
>>499931459Based. They're the only ones who has any say in this after all.
>>499932204jane is not necessary retard bro
>>499931865Every time I see an image of him posted here the quality seems to have degraded even more than the last.
>>499932267Cheesed to meet you
>>499931207>you peopleI wouldn't call the resident schizo people.
>>499932328
I got the Burnice Special brehs......
>>499932190i dont understand, how does piper ult buff her assault?
>>499932328MUTSUKI I CAN SEE IT
>>499932309little caesars?!
>>499932328yummy
I skipped Jane, I will skip Yanagi, I will continue to clear Shiyu, you're free to have a meltdown over it
>>499932328And I hope you will either get chemically castrated or die from the mold, pedo.
>>499931635He's a male. If anything they get buffs because devs know they need all the help they can get to sell.
wasn't the sjal event supposed to start yesterday, but we got the shitty arcade one instead?when's my wife showing up again
>>499932328Dailies take like 5 minutes, you will get a lot of free signals before we get Obol and Idols
>>499932328what theuh?
>>499931459Links?
>>499932372
>>499932328PUSSYCLEAN NOT-CHEESY PUSSY
>>499932535It starts on sunday.
>>499932038Yeah they went crazy with Jane, but she was in the trailers and promotionals, so not surprised.
>>499930686just call him the horse cuck like everyone else does
>>499932534Why even make S rank male characters? To make the community worse by bringing fujos?
>>499932328CLEAN IT UP GRANNY
>>499932328Target visible
>>499932612can't ink a shizo head
>>499932498shut up soukaku. no food 4u
Is Obol speculated to be a bunch of Anby clones of various elements? Or something else?
>>499932328based and just at the right time
>>499932328Cheesed to meet you
>>499932878I really hope for the Physical Support from Obol
>>499932878We don't really know. We have some old bios for all of them, but the only concept art we have is of Trigger who doesn't really look like a clone, but this is an old design and most characters have been redesigned. Go look at old Caesar who was actually modeled, compared to what we got.
>>499932328Muchuki...
>>499932878Old Firecoomer designs suggest that at least Trigger was not 1to1 Anby clone.
>>499932328it's shiny...
>>499932878no
>>499931678It's true though. If you start late and then roll the newest powercreep then that gives you an instant boost to get closer to established players, whereas older players have to cope with the fact that some of their older units may be made redundant.Take Jane for example. Players that started on her banner could instantly get up to speed and trash shiyu even despite missing Ellen and Zhu because she's just that powerful even solo.I'm not saying it's great for the game long-term or anything, but it can help new players not feel like they have to wait half a year before they can compete.
>>499932992Rat posting time
>>499931657I play 2+2+2 on her4p Punk+2p puff is probably better, but i don't give much shit, she clears her half enough in the time for now, and other punk pieces are on Billy right now
>Managed to pull Burnice>"Oh you can play as her in the open world? cool, lets check it out">Fucking unbelievable, IT FUCKING GIGGLES AND SHE HAS ASS MARKINGS WHAT THE FUCK. This game is on a league of its own, no wonder i think its the best the company has to offer
>>499929012>>499929275>>499930039naw, pickme behavior, they know guys like manly men so they pretend to be excited for it, then they hyper whale for Love and deepspace boys in secret despite the "protest" going on because of LaD's no fujoshits ruel
>>499933183
>>499933238How do you switch to other characters?
>>499932328jesus fuck
WUWA is gonna murder us on monthly pvp.
>>499933238>GigglesLooks like the ass drained my neurons, i meant jiggles>>499933292Press the back button on your controller and a menu will come up, so far we can play as Burnice,Wise,Belle and Caesar
>>499933168>peoople who started on her bannerI literally started on her banner and the game is so slow to give poly I could not win her in the ~100 rolls you get at the starthow is this supposed to be helpful to me as a new player?
>>499933397Ah, will try to do it.
>>499932724>make new bait game for guys>slowly make it a game for women and gays>make new bait game for guys to draw them away from old game>slowly make it a game for women and gays>make new-
>>499932328wtf
>>499932204There's 150+ pulls in permanent content.
I imagine they had Harumasa as a support but now changed him last minute to an Attacker and don't want Yanagi to take away his niche.There's no other explanation for how hard she got nerfed patch after patch after patch.
>>499932328I want to commit a crime....
>>499932878>>499933037Why does S11 talk about "Captain Brouhaha" but the text shows "Captain Magnus"
>>499933582>There's no other explanation for how hard she got nerfed patch after patch after patch.to appease fujoshis and fudanshis
>>499933397I still don't really get the limitation. It was introduced as any character you've pulled, but I don't even think it's "any character you've pulled since this was implemented" because none of the A-ranks I've pulled since are available. What's up with that?
>he is still seething at my smug art
Sex with Lucy
Nice to see pedos being 99% of posters while being 0.1% spenders in this general.
>>499933168A lot of players will literally google "how much powercreep is in the game" and decide to play or not based on that, Powercreep is only good for whale-milking.
>>499933809
>>499933701They have to make walking and jogging animations for all the characters. They cant just reuse the combat ones because those are made with their weapons in mind. Unless you want every character to have the exact same walk animation, it'll take time. They said they were aiming for 1.4 to make everyone available.
>>499933701I think they're working backwards with the system and wanted to show it off with the current patch's banner characters.
>>499932328ToT
What was deleted?
>>499933809Sex with Lucy in her halloween costume
>>499933037Why does she have two pistols attached to the top of her asscheeks? How is she supposed to use them, bend over and twerk at the enemy?
>>499933809And that's a good thing.
Does Mihoyo ever buff characters? The stanard agents outside of Lycaon, Nico, and Koleda seem woefully underpowered.
They nerfed yanagi to get rid of the cringe metafags.
too many disgusting pedos in this general
>>499933937>>499933947Ahhh, that makes a lot more sense. As long as they're aware of it and working on it, that's cool. I hadn't really considered that part.
>>499933701It's a new feature this very patch. They'll get the rest in by patch 1.4.
there are no schizos, those who believe in schizos are crazy and insane.
yo JANNY since youre here can you ban this guy for off topic and avatarfagging? thanks>>499928691>>499928691>>499928691>>499928691
>>499933701There are specific ass and tits jiggle physics for every female character, they have to animate those if they want their fanbase to enjoy it. If Burnice and Jane are anything to go by its only natural it'd take time, i mean i don't even fucking know of another game that actually had thigh jiggle physics, ZZZ is a first
>>499932328Now I have to jerk off again, fuck you
>>499933238Ok, This bitch is one of the most overhyped character I have ever seen in this game, she had every retard spamming her in every thread and community just like Jane but without the cuck shit, which made her even better. She better not be a fucking flop, because holy shit people are so fucking annoying over this bitch.
I'm a Piper hag bro.What is the best build for her?4 Anomaly 2 ERAnomaly Mastery/Pen/Anomaly Proficiency Anomaly Proficiency substats?I feel she really needs energy, so 2 ER is better than 2 Phys
>>499933947Hoyo always does both ways but they don't seem to learn that starting with M6 A rank levels of performance and buffing durikg development increases sales for the sheer fact human beings percieve negatives by a higher degree of magnitude
>>499933850>A lot of players will literally google "how much powercreep is in the game"Then those players are retards. There will always be people complaining about powercreep in every game. "Powercreep" in modern mihoyo games is fucking nothing compared to REAL powercreep you see in other gachas.
>>499931865>skipIT'S SO FUCKING OVER
MUCHUKI CHILD PUSSY!!!!ToTfun fact:the archive's term "child pussy" shot up like 4000% after gachas were introduced to /vg/
>>4999323280% cellulite 100% rape
>Underwhelming without BurniceYanagibros...I feel like I'm getting scammed
>>499934368I love Muchuki so much
Damn guess I'll go fap
>>499934056they won't be dethroned
>>499934368based...
>>499921192>From 800% additional Disorder to 600, to 400, to 350, to now at 250%Apparently, you don't know what beta testing is. Dumb fuck retard.
>>499934445Let's hope CN rioting can get things back on track
>>499934368ANON NO
>>499934183She's a hot slut, that's why i think she blew up. Her trailer has a bunch of sexy ass dances and poses, its exactly the kind of content an average ZZZ fan wants
>>499934368dont bwo you'll upset the futafag blackedfag shipcuck janitor...
Did the Yanagi meltys stop or niggas still crying about her not being 50% stronger than Jane? To powercreep at least all of Year1?The OL hag will still be goated tho, just in line with all the other limited Agents.
>>499934368SEX WITH MY STUDENTS
>>499934265You want retard and non retard players alike. If players perceive that the hot waifu banner will be viable for the years to come they will pull for that bitch, you can powercreep them after the players have sunken cost fallacy.
>>499934368>Chinatsu = Koharu>Rokudo = Mutsuki>Yutane = ???Take your picks.
MODS MODS MODSsince youre here can you ban this guy for off topic and avatarfagging? thanks>>499928691>>499928691>>499928691>>499928691
>>499934368
>>499934643>The OL hag will still be goated thofalse >just in line with all the other limited Agents.also false, she is basicaly Grace now
>>499934489Kek
>>499933571and it takes more than 3 weeks to get to those anon, you are forgetting that the game literally stops you and makes you grind 5 proxy levels over and over before you can do anything else
>>499934793Don't care I am just saving for Mibibi the powercreeper of Shark pedo bait.
>>499921537SOC girlgang beatdown
yep this thread is based
>>499934750>asking the mods to delete a janitor's posts
>>499934793>grace tierAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGuess I'm pulling for Lighter instead then
>>499934643She was 20-30% better than JaneThen Electric JaneNow today's set of nerfs, fuck knows where she stands now
>>499934904rape
>>499934445>loses 50/50>makes a video coping about skipping Caesar
wait, I missed it again. what was posted??
good thread
>>499934643>Did the Yanagi meltys stopWe're in for non stop doomposting till release like with every single banner before that.
>>499934793worse Grace is more flexible
I have a brilliant idea: let's nerf Grace AND Yanagi
>>499935008She was 20% better than JaneTWO nerfs beforeOne nerf before she was in line with JaneNow she is just trash
>>499934010I'm gonna say it, the Son's Halloween art was lame.Too close to their normal designs.
>>499935075Is Yanagi a cryo amber?
>>499934368 Cheesed to meet you
>>499935101can't nerf something that's in beta testing
>>499934715Rokudo doesn't look like a mgsk
>>499935165That's what I basically said.>20-30% better than Jane>equal to Jane>now another set of nerfsDon't know how much worse she is but she is worse
>>499935220Speak English.
>>499935279>mgskretard
>>499934489No way is Qingyi up there.
>>499935430don't reply to me
Yanagi is still way too overpowered and doesn't warrant all the doomposting going on in here
>anime avatarfag is the anti-qingyi horsefucker
Normally I find the doomposting retarded. But looking at Yanagi's numbers now I honestly think she's a brick. Something not a lot of people are talking about is that they also nerfed her buildup rate across the board. Not only is she dealing less damage, she's dealing it less often. There's no reason to roll for her if you have Grace or no one else to use your selector on unless you're dick rolling. But ger design is so bland I can't rationalize it this time. Honest question to Yanagibros, what about her design makes you want her?
whats j*****25 opinion on nerfs?
>>499935485Overpowered compared to what?? >>499935008>>499935165
>>499935475you're retarded and have no idea what you're talking about
>>499921106Anyone figured out how to get S rank on the difficulty 11 Hollow Zero? surviving isnt a problem but i deal no fucking damage
>>499935608Level up your character to 60.
>>499935485this, why is Burnice not allowed to be that broken
yeathe shining golden swine
>>499935608>i deal no fucking damageThat tells me that your characters aren't fully built and level 60 yet, which is fine, just don't bother trying to go for S rank clears until then. It won't take long
>>499935574They boosted her dupes though???
>>499935485Niggas still gonna cry and whine, like with every banner since her. Get used to the retarded dooming
>>499935580hasn't done calcs says it's fine probably because of thunder metal
>>499921192Wtf is this shit? Why are they nerfing her more? Still her strongest warrior though. Guess I'll stick with freedom blues to help with anomaly buildup
Don't care. Still rolling for SEXnagi.
>>499935608Qingyi+Caesar+Billy cleaned it for me in like 12 or 15 minutes, very fastJust because Billy ultimate is fast and deals a lot of damage, so you don't even care about fast reset from stunQingyi is retarded strong paired with retard king, you can just tank any hit and stun very fast
wtf man. this was supposed to be ourswe'll have to collab with bayonetta now
>>499935958>Why are they nerfing her more?to punish straight males, its why she's followed by two male banners back to back
>>499935880dawei will be crying when he looks at november's revenue
Evens I roll for Office LadyOdds I continue saving
>>499935881>thunder metalThat shit isn't properly tested yet to see if you can make it work in Disorder comps or not. If it doesn't then that's another huge hit
Gonna lick Ellen's and Corin's butthole.
>>499936104there's still KoF
>>499936104It's so over.
>Yanagi is bad because she was (insert arbitrary asspull number here) and then she became (insert arbitrary asspull number here) and so she's (insert arbitrary asspull number here)tier nowDoomfaggots are so creative.
mmmh yea needs more nerfs
>>499936281All characters are numbers. You can grab any current released character, tweak 2-3 "arbitrary" numbers of what makes them good and they'll be bricks
>>499936281good shill chong, take it
Yanagi is the ONLY on field electro dps.They can nerf her by 90% and she'd stil be meta.
>>499935881He already says nagi with thunder metal is ass to play but supposedly stronger than other sets. Now that she's worse, if you still have to endure shit gameplay just to make her work at a baseline then that's not "fine".
If she's getting this nerfed then that means her ball is a must now right
>>499936523She's already worse than Jane in her current state. You think she'd be meta if they nerf her 90% from there?? Is this a secret Anton ploy to make sure he's security for another patch?
How does Grace even work?You hit normal attack a few times and then hit special and leave?What if she doesn't trigger the electro aura in the enemy?
>>499936523but anton ivanov is stronger now as on field electro
Is my Lucy attack overkill? Should I re-invest in crit rate?
I don't get why Yanagi being worse than Jane is a bad thing when Jane herself should be nerfed
>>499936686>>499936737DONT FUCKING REPLY TO HIM
>>499936452>>499936514Cool story bwo, you've been telling it every single banner drip so far.I'd suggest you kill yourself but you have no life anyway.
>>499936104>BayonettaI don't see the problem
Need me to unbrick your electric character?
>>499936710>You hit normal attack a few times and then hit specialBasically, yes. Abuse defensive assists on her as that builds up Anomaly pretty damn quick too
What's a good amount of AP to have on Burnice? 400? I think I might be going overkill on mine.
>>499936104
>>499936904nahida rape
>STILL replying to the avatarfaggotgrim. you retards just can't help yourselves
Serious questionAre we flopping compared to Year 1 Genshin and HSR?
>>499936858anton ivanov will drill your brains out and he is better than yanagi btw just type "anton shiyu 7s" in youtube
>>499936813You're not supposed to badmouth Jane during mutt hours
>>499936931350
>>499936904Happy birthday Nahida, but go back to /gig/ please. Still love you though.
why do they refuse to release more attackers? where is the limited support?
>>499936931You're fine as long as you can get about 3k Atk.Mine is way too scewed with AP rolls, I'll probably give the set to Yanagi and farm another one for Burnice, hopefully more balanced...
>>499937018About equal to the second half of HSR's first year (this is a bad thing)
I'm gonna reply to him so other retards seethe
I thought the point of yanagi was to be a grace replacement not Jane. So is she still better than grace or not
>>499937158Chinatsu will be the first limited S rank support trust the plan
>>499936737>>499936686>feeling threatened by Anton
>>499936929Is it just me or her anomaly build up is slow? She hardly ever triggers the electro aura in the enemy.Is it talent level? I gave her the anomaly mastery main stat
>>499937347sniff
Imagine (actually imagine this) a known brick A-rank (even at M6) being better than a FUCKING LIMITED CHARACTER because retards dooming over beta testing (used for trial and error to make sure she doesn’t powercreep the game into oblivion)Imagine being this fucked retarded. Is this always like this with every pre-released character?
DONT REPLY TO IT
My shit copypaste edits are so good.. seethe.. I won't reply because I'm scared of confrontation..
>>499936813>Jane herself should be nerfedShe should, but it's far too late now. That's why it's seen as a bad thing. Many are of opinion that there shouldn't be a precedent of a character coming out that is blatantly worse than existing ones. Whether Yanagi is or isn't I've got no clue, nor do I careI've got Jane and will get Yanagi for sex, even if she's worthless meta wise
>>499937127>>499937160Well, shit. I might get %ATK on disc 4 because I still have to level my w-engine, have two disc slots left and am already near 320 AP
>>499936782isn't her buff based on her ATK? looks good to me
>>499936987You just want him all to yourself.
How much will Zzz drone freak out when Miyabi ends up being worse than Jane.
What if Ellen has a niece?
cum inside lucy
saar buy my jane account plese saar
I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ROLL FORFUCK
>>499937350AIEEEEEE I'M SORRY ANTON-SAMA I'LL START FUNNELING ALL MY RESOURCES INTO YOU
Reading those abusive Miyabi posts made me aroused..
>>499937690im rolling for yanagi and mibibi
Hello u/the_horse_king aka the anti-loli schizo aka the anti-qingyi schizo aka the person that hates pedos but has a suspiciously large collection of little girl webms aka the janexseth poster aka the cuckschizo
>>499937462She's the first character that started off insanely strong and now has had 2/3rds of her numbers slashed, including her Anomaly build up, her Disorder gimmick down from 800 to 250, etcI'm not surprised people are dooming the shit out of it when every other day there's another set of nerfs that targets her entire kit
>>499937690Miyabi is a dev favorite. She'll probably be allowed to be good.
FUCK roland ALL my homies HATE roland and his SHIT discs!!!!
>>499937690I've just been rolling what I have on every banner so far and seeing where luck takes me.
>>499937690Roll for Burnice. Burnice+Piper is very strong.
>>499937809You're dumb as fuck if you thought that 800% disorder damage wasn't going to get toned down.
Riddle me this: If all these nerfs were indeed needed and Yanagi is still strong even now, what the fuck were the devs smoking back when they made her kit? Wouldn't it be immediately obvious that she was busted beyond compare?
It was fine if she wasn't stronger than Jane.But Anton?Grace?
>>499937690roll for who you like
>>499938032That's why it's called beta testing.
>>499937951>ask a question>get a genuine answer>get mad Nowhere in that post did I state my own opinion
Agents for this feel?
>>499938050Brown anime girls are a gift from god.
>>499938032They rushed the number because beta started just right before national holiday.
>>499937690I'll let you two get acquainted
Ditch Yanagi. Save for the true broken electric DPS.
>>499938118it was a general statement
>>499938125maybe qingyi?
>>499938257>MaleNo
>>499938125qingyi
>>499938335>malewhere?
>>499937951The 800% is additive. It's not literally 8 times the damage.
>>499938292>you're dumb as fuck if you thought Fuck off with your general statement
>>499938335its now your duty to make him into a fine woman
>>499938249>>499938050>super sexy>but super uselessWhat a shame.
>>499938417so mad you're actually retarded lmao
>>499938257>casually 1mil+ dps without pathetic disorderyeah, its me
>>499938478Bro we are so back!
How many of you have ACTUALLY built your Anton???
>>499938458I'm not the one having a melty over people doomposting pre-release. How you're not used to it by now is beyond me
>>499938579I did because it was early game and I didn't have a dps, he got me to clear SD stable
>>499938636>says the retard having a melty because he was called outkek
They can still change her on Monday right?
>>499936104Isn't ZZZ getting a Street Fighter collab? seems like zzz came out on top
Remember to redeem your VIRTUALREVENGE gift code
>>499938704A melty over what? I couldn't care less whether Yanagi releases 10x stronger than Jane or 20x worse than Anton
uh oh retard melty
>>499938768Unless CN makes a huge stink it seems unlikely they'll budge.
>>499938834I mean, we could've had Vergil and Miyabi duel.
>>499938980They won't make a huge stink. They'll test her out with Caesar Burnice, clear decently well and call it a day. If you hadn't noticed yet, you can slap almost any 3rd slot in that duo and do well
You don't build Anton, he builds you
>>499938768What's to change?
>>499923282True, F2P here
>>499938847shit already expired
>>499939147Where's the value if you can just slap anyone in there and be good?
>>499938768For further nerfs? It's certainly possible.
>>499939224I'm actually going to build him because I'm skipping the next 4 agents, and I'm already easily clearing Shiyu. I'll come back and report on how bad he really is if you put some effort into him in a week or so.
>>499939605Qingyi is another one like Caesar Burnice.She can sling shot any burst dps, like Anton, up to crazy levels with her steroids. Great character
>>499939298Damn. Good thing I redeemed it today so I guess their yesterday.
>>499939605Report back bro
>>499938980Only a qingyi-like last minute change can save her now then. Not counting on it though but whatever.
>going from unquestionable best dps in the game no matter the element into unquestionably best electric unit in the game
>>499939854Qingyi had most CC's doomposting, I doubt we'll have that with the amount of Anomaly wank going on, Burnice available, etc
Isn't Yanagi already one of the least popular characters according to polls? It seems like everyone's waiting for either idols or Miyabi.
This can only mean the anomalywank will be stopping soon.
>>499939605Qingyi unbricked Anton, he's clearing Shiyu in <1m when they're not even weak to electric. Just don't fall for the meme of putting Grace with him (it's not needed, you'll get the shock during CA just from Qingyi building it up), pair them with Caesar/Rina instead.
>>499939987Based on what?
>>499939987>happy you're better DPS than Grace or Anton
>>499939989CCs were doomposting Qingyi because they didn't understand the game, for some reason they collectively decided time to stun was the only valuable metric for a stunner.
>>499940272Honestly I was never going to pull that NPC so I'm happy I won't be missing anything
>>499939987The competition isn't exactly stiff.
>>499940342it's because Qingyi was emergency buffed, the same CC's that said she was mid in the beta said she was amazing on release
>>499939989Not sure how much hold chink CCs have on devs but I doubt western CCs opinion matter to them.
It makes me laugh seeing people pretend Qingyi isn't a brick.
>>499940342Might be late to act since thread's ending but what was even the last minute buff Qingyi got?
>>499940449CN went off clear speeds instead of stun or buffs. Pre-last minute buffs she really wasn't that much better with overal team clearing speeds than M6W5 Anby
>>499940545That's when she got her 80% stun dmg multiplier.
The NECF worth it? I usually only buy the monthly pass, but I'm actually playing enough to hit 50 this time.
>>499940821>>499940821>>499940821
>>49994054560>80 for her stun
>>499940342They buffed her increased stun damage multiplier from 60% to 80%. It took her from a great universal stunner for burst DPS to singlehandedly the best stunner in the game for any DPS that doesn't require large amount of field time. Literally made Corin, Anton, and Billy capable of sub minute clears.
>>499940795Yeah, at least for me.
>>499939750Yeah if you got Qingyi, you're set for any future burst DPS. I'm glad I ended up rolling her for Corin.
>>499940795Yes if you build a lot of characters.
>>499941154Zero Certification Seals is a bummer.
