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Welcome to the Shadow the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Shadow!

/sthg/ #7493 - Chilidog Edition

SONIC SWEEP'O'WEEN WILL BE HERE SOON ONCE AGAIN!
>When?
Saturday, October 26, 9am (UTC-6) https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/5931198/sonic-sweepoween-2-hedgehog-boogaloo
>Where?
https://cytu/be/r/SonicSweepoween

>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Official Trailer
https://youtu.be/OSOyFiOiNd4

>SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS confirmed release date is YESTERDAY
https://youtu.be/6E36fOpk-Yg

>Sonic x Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK8bse3Quo

>Sonic is getting a five issue crossover miniseries with DC, further collaboration will continue through 2026
https://youtu.be/t8b1woTWRIY

>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailer
https://youtu.be/Em6-SjjaYQE

>IDW Release Dates:
Sonic the Hedgehog: Knuckles 30th Anniversary Special - 20 November 2024
Sonic the Hedgehog #74 - 30 October 2024
Sonic the Hedgehog #75 - 11 December 2024
Sonic the Hedgehog #76 - 05 February 2025

>General link compilation:
https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4P
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
/sthg/ OC info:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>>499978887
Keep yourself safe friend
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https://cytu/be/r/SonicSweepoween
Nazo unleashed is finishing up. We have a short Kanye intermission followed by the Tamers sonic underground halloween special
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*arf!*
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>>499978812
>Chili the Dog
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>You're awful /sthg/
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>>499979024
Seeing Sonic and Blaze having fun together is good for my soul. Every other ship is toxic, lame, or gay.
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>>499979304
Remember, remember,
fifth of November.
That'll be very awful.
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Why did I used to be gaslighted that Ian was a "Sonamybro" when the exact moment he was allowed to write for the games he made it his mission to erase Amy's feelings for Sonic?
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They should get more adventures together...
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>>499979304
>Get his rags off!
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>>499979521
>Bitter sonallyfag gets to write Sonic game
>erases Sonamy
First time?
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>>499979381
Sonic and Shadow fighting isn't Sonadow, Sonic and Blaze having fun isn't Sonaze. Stop trying to turn everything into shipping.
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>>499979598
they cute
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Shadow should get married to...
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>>499979521
He was always a Sonamyfag, but he's also a feminist. He wants Sonic to be the one simping after Amy.
>Wish we were sharing an umbrella, Amy...
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>>499979430
A week before Amy moves to Station Square and ghosts Trip.
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>>499979521
Can you imagine the amount of censorship they're going to do to Heroes or Battle if the decide to remake them?
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>>499979521
Ian is a cuck. He honestly believes that “the chase” Amy and Sonic go through is “antagonistic”.
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>>499979780
>Wants to turn Amy into a stacy girlboss
>Wants Sonic to lust after and slow down for the cool girlboss
Hmm...
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>I ship SonAmy... but I'm also a feminist.
I read this in Silver voice and I'm ashamed to admit I can't stop chuckling.
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>>499979787
They're friends forever, don't lie to me...
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>>499979787
When did she get the rhinoplasty?
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>>499979304
Reminder that if the Joker took his meds and wasnt a little bitch everything would be okay
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>>499979780
>He's a Sonamyfag, but he wrote Amy cucking to Sally
>He's a Sonamyfag, but he believes Silver descends from Shadow and Amy
>He's a Sonamyfag, but he writes out Amy ever having feelings for Sonic

How much copium are you on right now?
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>>499979858
lol the picture is so true
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>>499978887
kys blazefag bot (kill yourself)
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>>499979947
She didn't invite Trip to sonic's birthday or HER birthday.
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>>499980005
Zavok-sama bringing the truth juice.
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>>499979660
I know that. I just like Sonaze ship art when it's their normal relationship but with romance.
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(where's the BEEP BEEP anon?)
Best ship!
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What would Surge do while naked, apart from the obvious?
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>>499980167
>normal relationship
Sonic is dead or captured and blaze doesn't do shit
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>>499979858
You know Archie pulled this same bullshit and killed off Eggman and then they ended up replacing him with their OC villains until they eventually brought him back because the series doesn't function without him.

People who have an issue with a status quo need to fuck off and go work on something else.
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>>499979738
The cutest.
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>The Dash Ring Challenge Stage
Tell me Iizuka & ST are itching to make a new NiGHTS game without telling me they are.
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>>499980124
Trip had her own party with fang
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He's a Sonamy fan.
>But he said Blaze has a thing for Sonic!
That wasn't his opinion, that's internal Sega lore he wasn't supposed to confirm.
>But he's a Sallyfag! He used to write Sonally!
He personally killed Sonally the first chance he got and turned Sally into a lesbian to satisfy his lesbian fetish.
>But he won't let Amy be obsessed with Sonic anymore!
Yes because Ian is a culture warrior feminist that wants to turn Sonic into an insecure simp for her. He wants to completely subvert the core of the Sonamy dynamic and make Sonic the one who pines for/chases after girls.
>Wish we were sharing an umbrella, Amy...
Besides. We all know Evan pulls his strings, if you know what I mean. Whatever Evan wants, Ian falls in line with it and he likes it.
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You broke her heart, Amy...
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>>499980347
They aren't.

If you hadn't noticed, "Challenge levels" are just easy short levels thrown together in a day.
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>>499979780
Ian Flynn isn't a feminist. He's actually a huge misogynist who demonizes femininity.
He:
1:Refuses to make female villain's unless they have some sort of sob story, like as if women can't have agency
2: None of his girl OCs are allowed to be super feminine. Most of them wear pants, the only one who doesn't (Jewel) is a business woman in the most masculine iteration of a skirt.
3: None of the girls can be romantically interested in men, they cannot have flaws or be weak. He holds women to an unrealistic standard.
But that makes sense because Ian is a moid. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
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>>499980005
>He's a Sonamyfag, but he believes Silver descends from Shadow and Amy
God, I fucking hate Ian so much.
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*BEEP* *BEEP*
Best ship coming through.

>>499980170
Sorry, my soaps are on tonight.
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>>499980553
This.
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>>499980553
>Ian Flynn isn't a feminist. He's actually a huge misogynist who demonizes femininity.
That's the same thing and always has been. Welcome to clown world.
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>>499980460
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>>499980553
An "Intersectional Feminist" is still a feminist. I'm certain he sucks tranny cock on twitter.
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When did Abraham become such a fucking brat
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>>499980235
What do you mean by the obvious?
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>>499980005
Why are Zavokfags consistently the voice of reason in here? I don't think I've ever seen a Zavokfag give a shit take before.
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>>499980124
Unless we treat classicverse as an alt dimension with a different background. We can assume that fang, trip, mighty and ray got genocided somewhen in the middle.

>>499980557
>"akshually, Rouge, Shadow and Omega are not friends"
>*Looks inside*
>Team Dark dynamic
>"Akshually shadoo is not bejeta"
>*looks inside*
>Bejeta
What I'm saying is, everything is on the table
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>>499980312
>Ken Penders was setting things up to introduced his NEW and BETTER villain Dr. Ian Droid until Sonic Adventure came along and Sega demanded they bring Robotnik back with his Adventure design and screwed up Penders' entire plan.
>Penders then tried to introduce Robotnik's ancestor, Dr. Ivan Kinotbor, who was the reason the ayys nuked earth and turned it to Mobius ages ago and was born June 06, 2006 (666), but Ian pulled the plug on that plot when Penders left.
Lol.
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>>499980817
Did you even play Shadow Generations? They're clearly not friends as much as they're co-workers. Shadow spent that whole game angsting about his messed up family.
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>>499980773
Bathing and masturbating/fucking.
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>>499980716
Flynn is a retard and a hack
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>>499980817
They’re not friends, they’re part-time coworkers.
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>>499981001
Yes, and I've watched dark beginnings, which is a prologue to SXSG.
>Shadow spent that whole game angsting about his messed up family.
you wouldn't had you been in his place and his situation?
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>>499980716
Ian is probably glad Rouge was censored and he'll likely say it's a good thing and that you have to deal with it in his podcast if someone brings it up.
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>>499980553
Feminists have always been anti-femininity. They saw the patriarchy forming and wanted to get in on it, and to do that they discarded femininity in a vain attempt at gaining what the masculine earns. Not realizing all it ultimately does is cause them misery. Not realizing that a complimentary matriarchy already existed, simply because it wasn't legislated.
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>>499980817
Shadow doesn't act like Vegeta.
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>>499980817
Sonic mentioned Fang in a Tailstube, so he and Trip presumably are still alive.
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>>499980515
>Besides. We all know Evan pulls his strings, if you know what I mean
What did he mean by this?
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>>499981407
Made for cuddling until she has a breakdown, and then continuing to cuddle until she feels safe in your arms
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>>499981364
How long are you going to keep denying it Iizuka?
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>>499980665
No anon, it's just moids who think they know what women want hijacking a movement of women who were sick of moids claiming they knew what we wanted.
>>499981248
>Moid claiming he knows the first thing about feminism because of his manosphere doomscrolling

Can the great blobian replacement happen already? I am so tired....
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>>499980716
The thing which pisses me off the most is that he invented the problems he has with these characters.

>claims Amy is all over the place but then actively rewrites her character
>claims Cream shouldn't be involved since she's a child but Tails and Charmy are kids too and they get involved
>Rouge being sexy was never a problem, she got shit done anyways

And then when it comes to Blaze, it's been TWO(2) years since she left her dimension and her most significant moments are shipping shit with Knuckles, Sonic and Silver instead of actually showing her fighting prowess.

Don't even get me started on Tangle being SpongeBob and then turning into a lesbian fodder or how badly Sonic has been mutilated since the introduction of Surge.

There was never a problem, but he created it and instead of bringing a solution, he let the problem stay and then has his sycophants defend it for him.
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This is how Ian prefers Amy.
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imagine being six years old and you see fucking BLACK DOOM
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I'm surprised the incels and femcels don't start screaming at each other here
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>>499981364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGLgw4JVfeo
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>>499979947
Amy and Trip going to a nude spa together
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Sonic Speed Simulator kinda fun ngl
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>>499981765
I'm not a fucking moid, retard.
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>>499981859
Nah, the subdued ones are here tonight, it gets really bad sometimes.
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>>499980515
>Besides. We all know Evan pulls his strings, if you know what I mean.
Ian is married and has been for a while.
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>>499981838
i see shit like this and it reminds me to never read this comic
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>Moid!
>Moid!
>Moid!
Just as bad as incels who constantly complain about women. I wouldn't think a male-led franchise like Sonic would attract such schizos.
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>>499981971
He can't resist that they/them pussy.
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>>499981628
The Vegeta representation is in reference to the "Ultimate lifeform" conundrum, and how Sonic manages to surpass Shadow despite being some regular guy, like how Goku managed to surpass Vegeta despite being some low class fodder. There's also how the top stripe resembles Vegeta's hair, but when it comes to Shadow's actual characterization he's honestly incredibly different.
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>>499981941
quit acting like one then.
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Ugh, this is terrible, why I am even posting this!?!?
It seems that my mind's eye is still one of a toddler.
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>>499982058
>I wouldn't think a male-led franchise like Sonic would attract such schizos.
LOL?
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>>499982114
Well, Silver is supposed to be Trunks, but his characterization isn't exactly like Trunks either, lol.
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>>499981859
Sonic is full of weirdos. Weirdos that come together to sonic
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>>499981971
lies
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>>499982058
I get hard whenever I get called a moid directly. Mostly in female-focused porn threads like the yumejoshi general on /h/ sometimes.
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>>499981434
>tailstube shit
Nothing in these glorified flash cartoons matter if the games don't reflect it
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>>499982058
Anon....
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>>499982183
I could say the same to you, you're warlike and cold.
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>>499982251
Remember that one red-haired human lady, allegedly a Frontiers character, who was never seen again? What the fuck was that?
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>>499982197
Training him in the ancient echidna ways
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>>499981235
Nice
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>>499981838
Amy knew this shit comic would end eventually
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>>499981791
>The thing which pisses me off the most is that he invented the problems he has with these characters.
I feel like a lot of the loudest complainers are guilty of this as well. It's like when people paint Sonic as an emotionless psychopath just so they can mock Sonic for not having a personality. It's downright disingenuous.
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I'm so wet for Shadow my legs are shaking but I can't do anything about it. It hurts. Uuuuu
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>>499982384
People are now saying she's Maria's little sister, but she looks to be in her 20s, not 50s.
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So do the femcels outnumber the incels here?
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>>499982384
Like the UFOs in Sonic 1, we may never know. They could be saving her for Frontiers 2 or she could be T. in SXSG log.
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>>499982197
Snout too realistic, maybe look to art of Classic Tails or maybe even Kit for inspiration? They both have long snoots while still looking more in line with the rest of the characters.
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>>499982512
not really
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>>499982058
This franchise's gameplay is violenly inconsistent and often garbage. Characters, themes and "vibes" are all that's left to sustain an audience. There are no men here. Just women and fags left
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>>499982543
She was grouped with Unleashed humans. It's entirely possible there is going to be an Unleashed remake or rermaster on the way (Rewritten by Ian Flynn, so buckle up).
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>>499981838
These guys have actual, legitimate issues with Sally and Sonic just loafing around while everybody is paranoid about Nicole thanks to Mina but we're supposed to believe that Amy Rose is in the right for defending their date and not also being inconsiderate to them?

She's being completely insensitive to their feelings as well and how are we supposed to believe that she's in the right?
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Bun!
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yay i finished shadow generations it was soo good to play as my husband again its hard to get used to the new controls u stop so fast now i wish there was a sonic fight tho that cutscene only fight was ???

>>499979746
me,,,heres me tucking him in
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>>499982476
I don't know why people keep coming to that conclusion when it makes more sense for her to be Maria's niece, assuming she's a Robotnik at all.
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>>499982384
That's Rouge's mom
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Always remember who's the main character
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>>499981859
They used to. It's been tame lately, which has been nice.
Just ignore it, to be honest. Believe me when I say there's nothing you can do to help them. It's unhealthy to try.
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>>499981838
What posseses someone to write this and approve it?
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>>499982197
Cute! What's the context?
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>>499982721
>(Rewritten by Ian Flynn, so buckle up)
It is really concerning how he became a full-fledged ascendant demon king overnight by assuming direct control of all English language narrative and dialogue while Sega just sits there smiling.
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>>499981859
If both would just lower their standards and hook up, they'd be a lot happier.
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>>499982884
i hate sonic!!
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>>499983006
Because SoA is in control and Iizuka lets him because he's spineless. The rest of Sonic Team doesn't seem to care since they don't really use Ian's scripts.
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>>499981985
Cheers.
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>>499982197
It's cute and I love it.
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>>499982380
ok, now I know you're just larping as a woman. Fuck off troon.
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>No Emerl Boss Fight after the tease in the Dark Beginnings
>Cheated out of probably our last chance to have an official 3D model of him
I'M ABOUT AT MY LIMIT /sthg/
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>>499982698
>There are no men here. Just women and fags left
And which one are you?
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>>499983170
No, it's cause people were praising his comic book writing and cause Sega actually listens to fans, he got the job. Of course, now his flaws as a C-list comic book writer are on display and he is getting flak.

Turns out, just knowing the lore doesn't amount to dick in the real world. Ken Penders and Pontaff have been given massive W's as a result.
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>>499983340
I think Emerl was just an Ian addition.
No different than the regular gratuitous references.
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>>499982576
>>499982391
>>499983230
you guys are too kind, I was about to scrap this drawing altogether.
>>499982958
Training the staple of the Power Role character, climbing walls.
Or Knuckles mentoring Mighty's son for a bit.
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>>499983170
We're in the "hire fans" era. Pray to god the next era is "hire people who are actually competent at telling a story, but will do the goddamn research" era
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>>499983490
>cause Sega actually listens to fans
Sega listens to whoever screams the loudest.
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>knuxamy
Soknux is more popular
>shadamy
botnadow is more popular
>blazamy
Sonaze is more popular
It sucks Amy's only real big ship is the one she has to be neutered for, like she's all about love and passion yet because of ridicule can't express that anymore. Her alts are all just inferior to Sonic the most asexual thing in the franchise who used to fuck in a comic like people are ever going to get that guy back that at this point you may as well give her new character love interest that doesn't have Sonic baggage on them.
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>>499983534
how many of these fucking exist?
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>Frontiers 2 probably coming in 2026 for the 35th anniversary
>new 3D Mario probably in 2025 for 40th anniversary and Switch 2 launch
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sonic is an unobtainable beauty.. i wouldnt be his in his world, and he doesnt exist in this world, but i still think hes so amazing and perfect and i want to kiss him
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>>499983490
>Ken Penders and Pontaff have been given massive W's as a result.
They're still shit, just different
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Sex with Eggman's blonde cousin
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>>499982409
Cultist
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>>499980779
The forced excessive meme hate bandwagon for the Deadly Six within the autistic fanbase resulted in Zavok filtering out the retards that flock to other characters like Tails, Amy, Blaze etc. You need to be mentally well-adjusted and not part of the fan hivemind to like Zavok.
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>>499983534
>feminine eyelashes
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>>499983721
Sonic's fate is to be buckbroken by the Plumber. It's simply natural.
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>>499982884
They're afraid of Amy even saying the l word to him.
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>>499983975
what is the I word?
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>>499984117
>Her lips mouthing Shadow's name
GIFs you can hear...
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>>499983807
Yeah people shit on him and call him a ripoff Bowser but I actually like him as a character.

He's sort of like if Knuckles was meant to remain a villain and never lost his brain cells in the sense that he has the aura of a proud warrior and backs it up with super strength and other abilities.
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>>499983584
Knuckles is a real one.

Also, more of these two.
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>>499984350
I didn't like how Sega tried to separate him from his gang. He roles needs to be the leader of the Deadly Six.
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>>499984465
Another Amy alt partner with Sonic baggage. All her potential partners have heavy Sonic shipping it's unreal.
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>>499984502
Yeah the whole TSR thing doesn't make sense but that's just how SEGA is sometimes. Lost World is definitely due for a remake so there's a good chance we'll see them all again.
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What lessons (good or bad) will sonic team learn from their new release this time
Hopefully one of them is to make levels instead of more cyberspace
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>>499983794
Nice
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>>499984618
>Edgy Rose
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Thankfully, the stuff about the Zeti being Black Arms experiments was fake. That was retarded as fuck, but it sounded like something Ian would've did to "redeem" the Zeti and connect everything like he did in Archie.
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my nipples hurt
please rub them
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>>499984545
>Trip realizing she's the next disposable orange friend
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>>499979042
Currently watching an fnf sonic exe mod video.
Idk either.
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>>499982884
>fake emerald
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>>499983807
>>499984350
The only bad thing about the Zeti(Other than Zomom, he's boring), are their designs.
Zavok would make an excellent Knuckles villain if you added the lore that the Zeti were a warmonger race that wiped themselves out during their quest for power like Pachacamac did, but instead of renouncing the old ways and making up for the crime of his ancestors like Knuckles did, Zavok doubles down, believing that the only reason his kind failed was because they didn't go far enough.
>>499984739
Entirely agreed.
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>>499984758
Ew no, lady... (clueless) I would never massage your soft yet stiff nipples... just... ew...
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And whatever tomorrow brings, I'll be there
With open arms and open eyes
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>>499984969
>lady
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>>499985064
nima nomgoose
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>>499985083
(clueless)
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>>499984920
>Zavok would make an excellent Knuckles villain if you added the lore that the Zeti were a warmonger race that wiped themselves out during their quest for power like Pachacamac did, but instead of renouncing the old ways and making up for the crime of his ancestors like Knuckles did, Zavok doubles down, believing that the only reason his kind failed was because they didn't go far enough.

Yeah... I don't like that take. It feels like more arbitrary retcons to force characters to interact and nobody likes those.

Besides, Knuckles was in Lost World and all he does is help Amy babysit animals. If he were meant to be active in the story concerning the Zeti, they would have done it but it's clear they're meant to be another mysterious race which just so happens to live in an isolated location on Sonic's world which Eggman fucked around and found out.
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imagine if shadow kept the real emerald
sonic tries to go super and fucking dies
eggman rewrites the timeline to where gerald and maria live
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>>499906353
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>Amy… I should have made my mind up sooner…
Does this Frontiers dialogue imply Amy told Sonic herself she was done trying to be in a relationship with him? Or that he’s concerned he won’t be able to save her?
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>>499985373
>tail wagging again
I'm starting to think it's someone's fetish, I'm gona punch him if he does that shit to Blaze or Rouge, cats don't wag their tails ever
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>>499983645
Anyone competent enough to write decent stories and do their research is either too good to want to work for Sega, or too dangerous for Sonic as a franchise for you to want them to work for Sega
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>>499985465
>Eggman's original VA is dead
I'm surprised Drummond still has the balls to show his face after what happened with Emi
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>>499984978
i wish sonic were real so I could cry on his shoulder.
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>>499985064
Hmm...
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>>499985290
Fair enough. Although Lost World was in the GUN and humans totally don't exist anymore era, so I doubt the lack of worldbuilding was anything other than a product of its time.
That being said, do you have any Zeti ideas of your own?
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>>499984920
I always saw the Deadly Six as the real bad seeds among the Zeti race and that's why we see mainly them causing trouble They're basically bullies.
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>>499985369
Either Shadow jumps in last second with the real emerald and they both go super, or Sonic defies all expectations and goes super with a fake emerald.
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>>499985465
Man look at all these hasbeens and neverhaves who owe their fame to a bunch of sweaty manchildren that glorify them because they were the first voices for those characters they ever heard and will never let that go, at least both of Amy's previous VAs want nothing to do with this bullshit, I guess Ryan's cool with it since he gets to fuck crazy sonic fangirls like Emi Jones and David is a gym teacher so being able to tell kids who will likely see Shadow for the first time in theaters soon that he used to play that character is a nice opener but I'm still disgusted at them, I'm honestly disgusted at any english VA for any character be they of japanese origin or not acting like they're big, I have no respect for english dubbing or voicing be it movies, games, anime, cartoons or even just dumb TV ads, you're playing a fucking cartoon character what the hell do you have to be so proud of especially with how corrupted and filled with drugs, cults and nepotism the VA job in America is. Fuck off, just fuck off forever
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>>499985465
Damn, no Jennifer.
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>>499985628
same
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>>499985793
I like the idea that the Zeti are mostly bad with a couple good ones, and blobians are mostly good with a couple bad eggs.
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>>499985465
poor Lani, she sounds so old now
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>>499983786
But they both have W's nonetheless. Especially Penders who got shat on for not giving a damn about the game lore & writing OOC. Ian really dropped the ball here and I imagine he'll fall back on "muh mandates" and "sega did it" excuses.
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Hot Take: Shadow should have been able to share some of the Black Doom power with Omega in order to CRUSH, DESTROY, and OBLITERATE enemies.
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>>499985859
Hmm, not bad.
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>>499985863
She wants nothing to do with the fan community.
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>>499981791
>claims Cream shouldn't be involved since she's a child
He was told to censor her getting hurt in Metal Virus.
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>>499985661
>do you have any Zeti ideas of your own?
Quite a few
>their electromagnetic powers are a mutation caused by their position near Sonic's world's magnetic poles
>The reason why they're weak to that conch is because it emits a specific frequency which invokes mind control, any emitter which is tuned to it can have the same effect
>they're another species of aliens which came to Sonic's world but the Lost Hex is their own terraformed land which was made specifically for them to live on since they don't like the conditions on the planet ordinarily
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How would you compare Satam to Penders run of Archie I think Satam is better and Ian's run is a step above Satam
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>>499985859
Jesus Christ dude you went schizophrenic at the end there
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>>499986115
I don't blame her
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>>499986146
Cool stuff
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>>499986017
SA2 was like over 20 years ago and she's definitely in her 40s or above.
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I remember someone on /v/ saying Zavok can technically control a Titan with his magnetic manipulation that all Zetis seem to have and it's been living rent free in my head ever since. The Deadly Six could've hijacked everything on the Starfall Islands if they appeared.
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>>499986032
they should have let omega and rouge be playable reskins. omega can only doom spear and rouge can only doom fly
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>>499985568
People here never seem to get this.
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Sonic x Shadow Generations has done irreparable damage to the Sonic Brand and Sonic Fandom.
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>>499979042
There's something about Amy/Knuckles coming up next!
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Top Ten Sexiest /sthg/ OC's
Number 10:
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>>499986345
The Deadly Six are bigger threats to Eggman than Sonic ever could be. What is he going to do when they high jack all his shit and turn it against him?
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>>499985505
>someone's fetish
You mean ABT?
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>>499986419
>What am I missing?
Ian is also not being faithful to the games you stupid loser
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>>499986025
Ian is competent and decent at what he does but not exceptional.
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I cannot wait to see what custom levels people will make.
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>>499986032
>Met Gerald and Maria
>Wants to be Maria's bodyguard
Omega's a great friend
Big got to meet Maria and princess Elise and thinks they're cool people
Maria got to see Sonic and thinks he's Shadow's friend and that he must be nice
Gerald brings up the Two Chaos Emerald clash time travel method from 06 being possible in theory but is too pussy to try it
Maria is legit so fucked up she can't see, speak or fucking move when at her worse

God DAMN, I thought she was just frail but she's got something that sounds like a real diseases known as ABT like of all the things they could have gave maria they gave her something that would kill her in an agonizing way anyway and she'd never reach adulthood even if GUN didn't empty a clip in her
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>>499985394
It implies it wasn't suppose to be in the game but Sonic Team is sloppy.
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>>499986487
Honestly, giving them such an ability was a mistake on Sega's part because that is extremely OP in a setting with technology in it. A Zeti could literally take over an entire city on earth with that power. Hell, one could probably take out all of GUN.
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>>499986619
Ian has assumed direct control.
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Another instance of a former Archie employee sneaking Archie references past Sega in IDW’s comic with issue #31’s B cover.
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Isn’t Shadow like Omega’s Great Uncle
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>>499986269
in case you haven't realized it yet, we've got some legitimate mentally ill people fueled by anger and hatred. There's a reason why half this general's test results looked like this.
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>>499984758
I will
only if you're cute
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>>499984618
>tranny spats
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>>499983326
epic self-resport
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>>499986754
He would have full control of the narrative if he did.
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>>499986736
Yeah but the problem is that they're usually kept away from technology so they don't get to use their abilities to their full potential. Even Omega and Metal Sonic are powerless to Zetis
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>>499986542
Ian understood Archie and Satam but not the games quite as much. Somebody else weigh in on this. He made the comics more like the games back then, but with what people on X say, maybe his understanding of the games isn't really that deep.
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>>499984676
Amy Generations next
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>>499986903
Archie originally wanted to wipe the entire slat clean and make it more like the games, but Ian fought to keep the setting and resolved some existing plot lines and out game characters and elements in it. I don't think he put all that game stuff because he's passionate about the games, it's because that was the demand.
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>>499986903
>but with what people on X say
You sicken me
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>>499986774
>Knothole village
Sega's gonna blow up idw at this rate.
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>>499986553
If that were true, there wouldn't be complaints about his rewrites like >>499986542. He is a C-list comic book writer who got built up to fail. Just so we're clear:

C-list writer = licensed garbage with occasion mini-series
B-list writer = Indie success and/or long runs on notable established franchises (Daniel Warren Johnson comes to mind)
A-list writer = Massive FINANCIAL success with Fuck YOU money from his writing be it indie or mainstream (Brian Pulido, Mark Millar, Johnathan Hickman, etc.)
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>>499986345
List of characters Zavok fodderizes just by being in the room
>Eggman
>Tails
>Fang
>Metal Sonic
>G-merl
>Omega
>Sage
>Whisper
>Lanolin
>Surge
>Kit

Any questions?
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>>499986419
Its amazing how many people jumped on Penders post like it was some kind of gotcha when Ian's problem is that he's also unfaithful to the games.
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>>499986903
Ian helped better sell that the comic was an official product and not a creepy guy's hijacking of the brand as a platform for his own passion.
This seems to not work well when Ian is writing for games because its already being made by sonic team and truly does not need constant lore affirmation.
Its besides the point but I feel if Ian was mostly responsible for shadow gens then he did a good job there for what it was.
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>>499987120
>Archie originally wanted to wipe the entire slat clean and make it more like the games
Except Mike's idea was including Shadow in Penders' future story which Ian ended up doing, so where are you getting this from?
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>>499986740
Shouldn't you be giving cubejobs in a brothel somewhere?
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>>499987212
>If that were true, there wouldn't be complaints about his rewrites
So you have to be perfect to be decent?
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Amy loving Sonic so much was a fixture of her character. Retconing it away is a major disservice I'll admit. Besides that I don't think there is much problems with Ian's stuff. Ian working on the games isn't all doom and gloom. I like that he takes this cartoon animals and treats them like real people and there are benefits to that approach but Amys inherently cartoony dynamic with Sonic is now gone. He wants it to be healthy realistic dynamic but this is too far.
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>>499987436
It's been gone since Lost World. Why are you people suddenly making a big deal out of this?
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>>499986740
Tailream fankid
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>>499987238
Yes you forgot
>Tangle
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>>499987212
I didn't realize there wasn't a ranking below C. IMHO if Ian is C tier there should be a D and E tier below it. He is middle of the pack I feel when it comes to professional writers. Just a pass with a C.
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>>499987238
>List of characters Zavok fodderizes just by being in the room
>Tails
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>>499985568
>too dangerous for Sonic as a franchise for you to want them to work for Sega
There is no one too dangerous. This franchise has survived disaster after disaster. It's propelled by the explosion of the last bomb
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>>499987540
Exactly. Sometimes it feels like I’m the only one here who actually plays the games; or at the very least retain what happens in them.
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>>499987397
In the context of Generations, your bar was to be better than Pontaff & Graff. He wasn't, showing that knowing the lore doesn't mean jack.
And just so we're clear about the Censorship (be it Sega or Hit Detection), Ian took the paycheck and the credit as "writer" so its his job to make it palatable. That falls on him cause again, he took the paycheck.
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>>499987286
>Its besides the point but I feel if Ian was mostly responsible for shadow gens then he did a good job there for what it was.
He's the only one listed for Writer, Story, and Script.
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>>499985625
He's smart enough to realize no one gives a shit if he pretends nothing happened
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>>499987829
>He wasn't
Agree to disagree then
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>>499987305
https://youtu.be/xzor44qgKnA?si=2uEPv_6OqB_uD9JO&t=1438
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>>499985859
https://floofmania.com/hedgehogs/hedgehogs-tails/
Do Hedgehogs Wag Their Tails?
>Hedgehogs do wag their tails but it’s not to express contentment like a dog or impatience like a cat. It seems its main function is for protection purposes. Plus, it doesn’t move back and forth but rather up and down.

>But, it isn’t uncommon for hedgehogs to wag their tails from side to side, however rare.

Hedgehog Tail Wagging
>If and when hedgehogs do wag their tails, it’s very slight and not immediately noticeable. In the event, that you have one as a pet and you see it wagging, it may mean that it’s nervous or sensing danger.
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So we are all up to speed what do we all think of this take on Shadow Gens story. Its very glowing.

https://x.com/EZFooly/status/1848998770903572728
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>>499987631
D-list means you self-published shit that nobody knows about and even fewer care. It's a hobby you make no money on.

You can't sink lower than D.
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>>499987238
Can't Zavok mess with Shadow's shoes?
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>>499986903
Its clear that his work on Archie tainted his perspective of the characters. He may have possibly had a good understanding of them back when he was made to make the comic more faithful, but you can tell he never whatever understanding he did have was lost as he continued to write for Archie. I imagine Ian thinks he fully understands Sonic because he was official but the reality is that he only understands HIS Sonic.
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>>499987920
Fair enough.
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>>499986892
>the moid larping as a girl takes an hour to respond, and can't even spell report right because his oversized AGP hands can't hit the damn keys right
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>>499986146
The magic conch shell is impossible to take seriously
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>>499987850
Wasn't that the case in Frontiers and turns out the story was handed to him?
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>>499987750
I can't believe Tails got to do something cool instead of cowering behind his iPad or sitting in the plane
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>>499987817
I think this whole Amy discussion is anti-Flynn people inventing a talking point. He's not doing anything new that wasn't established before.

If they keep this up by the end of this decade, Amy will have spent more time not being obsessed with Sonic than she did being obsessed with him.
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>>499987617
>Homophobia in a Sonic comic.
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>>499988727
So literally everyone but Shadow
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>>499988545
>Wasn't that the case in Frontiers
No, he was listed with Kishimoto and someone named Jyunpei Ootsu for Frontiers. For Shadow Generations, only he is listed.
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>>499988727
I hope in the 06 remake they write out Sonic's death. It's shock value nobody asked for.
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>>499988943
>t. Sonic the jobhog
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>>499987540
Because lost world was in the shitty friends era where it was difficult to notice what the status of anyone besides sonic tails and Eggman even was
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>>499988084
Shadow doesn't rely on his shoes. It would be closer to Zavok messing with his bike or his guns.
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Anyone wanna fuck Devil Doom?
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>>499989034
Six fingers on her left hand.
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>>499989042
>Shadow doesn't rely on his shoes.
Um... he runs/skates with them.

Couldn't Zavok or any Zeti just turn them off and on at will?
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>>499989017
You people sure took notice of Knuckles getting all those people killed in Forces.
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>>499989056
The starfish eye is the limit of my degeneracy
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Waitaminute, if there's going to be a Moviedow level, where in the hubworld are they gonna put it? Is there an odd empty area anywhere?
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>shipping date delayed to Nov 1st
Well fuck me for ordering the deluxe version.
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>>499988943
Sonic doesnt die.
His soul just floats at the edge of the beyond since his body is barely lingering to life.
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>>499989191
He's just as fast as Sonic without them, the shoes just allow him to conserve energy by reducing how many steps he needs to take.
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>>499987945
I will never forgive him, not for what he did in Archie or Chronicles, but for betraying Ben Hurst who just wanted to finish up SatAM in earnest behind his back to SEGA for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNteN_qlHp0
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>>499982246
You're one strange guy if you're not joking, do you just like being insulted?
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>>499989194
Because knuckles had been a dumbass since the gamecube
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>>499989056
The massive nutsack is a bit too much for me I'd bang the cute starfish though
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>>499989475
Still wouldn't be a problem if they suddenly shut off when he runs or suddenly turn on if they're inactive.
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>>499989191
maybe his air shoes run on Shadow's chaos energy
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>>499989528
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>>499989556
...Did Knuckles ever stop being stupid?
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>>499989695
That is true however, and it would be a neat thing to see him manually disable his shoes and just go all natural to beat up a zeti.
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Every time I hear Roger speak it genuinly just makes me wonder what we did to end up in such a cursed timeline where Sonic had two amazing English voices and the one we end up with for the longest is the worst. Hell, that honestly applies to a good portion of the cast. God I hope they can recast at some point.
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>>499989484
And then Penders badmouthed him years later after his death saying Hurst had no business sense and that he had to bail because Hurst "couldn't be reasoned with".
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>>499989532
I think it's just me getting off on the idea of being outed being voyeuristic in a female-led space and being "punished" for it sexually, like the porn trope where a peeping tom gets stripped and jacked off by the girls and so on.
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>>499989291
Six fingers on both hands
Why is ai so fucking retarded
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What would composite Sonic's personality be like?
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>>499988564
>Tails ADMITS he needs his tricks against Zavok
Will never work a second time, just like the conch. They probably already reverse engineered the zeti zapper that uses their own power against them after being sent back to Lost Hex.
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>>499989853
same god his voice sucks so bad. i even prefer movienic's voice over his
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>>499989492
>Hey, quit staring at my hips! My tits are up here, pal!
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>>499989942
meant for >>499987750
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>>499989853
Sonic is probably Roger's worst performance, but he must be cheap as hell since Sega refuses to get rid of him even though he obviously phones it in.
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>>499989469
>Sonic didn't dead, his soul was just violently expunged after being bodily violated and he ceased to function afterward
...
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>>499989853
I really like Pollock's Eggman but one day I realized his voice finally overrode Deem Bristow's in my head as the default Eggman voice when I read unvoiced dialogue from him and I felt sad about that.
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>>499989853
Sega is a money laundering scheme. Roger is out as soon as he shows support for the union.
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>>499990086
Is he not union? Isn't that why Jason and Ryan were dropped, or at least Ryan?
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>>499989469
I guess Sonic was just astral projecting while time and space were thrown into chaos by Solaris.
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>>499989891
>like the porn trope where a peeping tom gets stripped and jacked off by the girls and so on.
Anon, femcels would never do that to you lol
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>>499988727
They should also add a nickname to this Mephiles move
"The move that didn't kill Shadow"
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>>499990265
I know, of course. It's still a potent fantasy.
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>>499989891
This is just evidence that porn should only be legal for the female gaze.
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>>499989484
Satam had no business being as good as it was. It was just a video game tie in show and those especially back then weren't known for being thoughtfully made like Satam was. Sega of America had no clue what it wanted storywise and desu their Bible was kind of dumb compared to what Sonic Team came up with. Still with a competent creative team they managed to create something good out of it. It wasn't without its flaws but still it was a real attempt at something and they really were going for something big. In other words, it wasn't a cheap forgettable tie in just to help with the profits of Sega. It was something made with passion.
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>>499990481
It is hotter that way.
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>>499990496
Too bad Penders tarnished its entire reputation.
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>>499990098
His soul isn’t out of his body.
It’s like a cup about to tilt over and spill the choccy milk everywhere, but by some miracle it isn’t tipping over
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>>499990481
I've seen your guys' shipping art of characters killing each other and pulling out their hearts and stuff. You guys are just as freakin weird about this stuff.
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>>499986740
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>>499990671
Yeah but its art unlike the male gaze shit which is like oversized cocks sucking up sonic characters like a vaccum and the loli peeler.
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>>499990657
So half-dead.
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>>499990774
I know you're right but fucking KEK
>the loli peeler
The what?
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>>499979042
Watching There's Something about Knuckles now. It's pretty long and kino. After that we'll be watching Return to little planets 1 and 2
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>>499990932
I think they're talking about this.
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>>499990932
>loli peeler
some pixel animation of a little anime girl getting skinned alive and mutilated in other ways. I only saw it once and blocked a lot of it out of my memory.
But yeah, even the most degenerate femcel yaoi porn cant hold a candle to the average moid fetish
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>>499991090
>>499991172
>pic
Yeahhh, okay I remember now, and I wish I didn't
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>>499991090
I would rather go in public wearing one of those cringe coats that's wallpapered with ahegao faces than be seen in such garb.
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>>499987382
>cubejobs
I'm intrigued.
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I wish we lived in the timeline where Spaz did the SatAM art instead of Penders in that specific physical release. He was contacted first instead of Penders but apparently was too busy to do it.
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>>499990763
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>>499991678
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>>499991329
>Insertion time, anon!
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>>499991678
fang's wang....
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sonc is pink now
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>>499990763
I wish her dragon form was as cute as her regular form
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night /sthg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyL4mOtVDVU
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>>499991678
>>499991725
>>499991743
Orange girls are cute, CUTE!
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metal is blobian now
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>>499992295
Too much clothes, and I like designs that give him the Venice eyeliner stuff.
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>>499992295
DELETE THIS AND NEVER POST IT HERE AGAIN.
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>>499992295
>not a girl blobian
What a waste
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Sad bc no Boy Amy to love irl...
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>I know you're a good guy Bark!
>Bark, you haven't been up to trouble right?
>Oh.... I'm sure you had your reasons....
>No! I'm not disappointed in you! But...
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its cute
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>>499992901
they FUCK
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>*stares*
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barry and their depressed coworker bark
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>>499992861
Why would his last name be different
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>>499993009
yup
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>>499993058
I would NOT be able to stop myself from petting him. HR be damned, it would easily be worth it.
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>>499993191
Idk I'm not the artist
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>>499991172
Hey I have no association with that bullshit
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>>499993298
>Modern Trip
I like this. A lot.
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>>499993298
what has she and fang been up to in the modern era
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>>499993473
divorce
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>>499993271
Nobody would blame you, just look at his cute little smile
He’s perfect
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>>499993473
Huntin' together.
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>>499993473
Trip ate Fang in dragon form. That’s why he’s disappeared.
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>>499993621
i havent seen jadii in a very long time. i wonder if she still comes here.
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>>499984419
nice use of her robe
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>>499993891
I doubt anyone of significance still comes here. We chased them all off.
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jadii
tonights conductor
autistic writefag
lali
angel amy rose
quark/krack
kayla-na
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>>499993298
>Modern Amy's quills are shorter stealing Trip's "hair" cut
>Modern Trip's head spikes are longer
woah it's like pottery they rhyme
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>>499993901
*Sari.
She's indian according to Evan.
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>>499994096
>kayla-na
It's been almost a decade. Did she ever overcome her sameface problem?
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I vastly prefer the Japanese line here. Not only is Mephiles' voice much better, and the voice acting itself much better, but it doesn't sound as pathetic as the English "I want to exist" line. Mephiles sounding frustrated and desperate fits his character much better than what sounds like him begging for his own existence.
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I hate rape in porn, i hate coercion in porn. I even hate smugness in porn. The best wanks I've had required innocence and sincerity from all involved
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>>499993473
Patty Cake
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>>499994524
cute and based
>t. enjoys rape porn but the best shit is wholesome
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>>499994096
Yes?
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>>499994520
The English VA for Metal Overlord is absolutely atrocious and really undermined his return for me.
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>>499994612
Its just Eggman with a filter, so I don't doubt you one bit.
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>>499979042
Return to Little Planet is coming up next
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>>499994487
no and her art looks exactly the same as it was in 2014
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>>499994524
anything beyond the lightest teasing instantly makes me close the tab
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>>499994706
Why even have Flynn as a writer if it has to go through so many checks and balances? Surely it's cheaper to just write the scripts in Japan and then send it overseas to be translated.
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>>499994524
I dislike innocence and coercion. I love sincerity and enthusiastic consent

The Sonic 3 half of S3&K isn't as good as the &K half
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>>499994690
I'm pretty sure that's a common misconception and it's actually Ray Chase.
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>>499994906
>Why even have Flynn as a writer if it has to go through so many checks and balances?
Anon you clearly don't know how licensed works are made if you think writers can just do whatever with no editor or oversight.
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>>499994906
Because having the name "Ian Flynn" credited makes the mindless Sonic consoomer fanboy on reddit and X clap their hands with joy and excitement.
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>>499995101
That's not what I said, I asked why don't they just write the scripts in Japan and then send it overseas to be translated. They get to save money on hiring so many people to keep Flynn on a leash and they appease the people who hate Flynn
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>>499995101
just have the people checking it write it to begin with
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>>499995303
The Archie fanbase is responsible for this. They were the ones who pushed for Flynn.
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>>499994706
And the Japanese script just throws all of that out anyway. Do they know that?
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>>499995386
That assumes they can write.
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>>499994706
This plus the fact various differences between the Japanese and English script leads me to believe that SoJ's don't really care about the scrip the Lore Team puts out so long is it doesn't wildly fly in the face in terms of characterization.
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>>499995497
And the franchise has only benefited from it.
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>>499995532
But I thought the characterization was wrong too?
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>>499995497
I don't even think it was the Archie fanbase, because I seriously doubt enough people were reading Archie to influence anything.
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>>499995034
Someone took the filter of and it sounds exactly like Pollock.
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>>499995605
Flynn's writing hasn't done shit. The story in Frontiers sucked ass and Shadow Gens was carried by having good gameplay
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>>499995532
Why do you guys act like differences in localizations are such a weird thing?
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I enjoyed the writing for Omega, although they made him a bit too un-robotic in my view (although him showing more overt personality could be chalked up to character development).
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biteu
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>>499995693
People loved the writing in Frontiers and Shadow Generations. Cope.
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>>499989484
I don’t think there was any that SEGA would allow a SatAM continuation during the post-Adventure era, especially with X on the way.
Didn’t that Richmunk guy get as far as a meeting with DreamWorks and when contacting SEGA during it, they just outright said no?
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>>499995832
You could make an argument for Shadow Gens and Dark Beginnings, but the fact you're trying to rope in Frontiers outs you as baiting.
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>>499995667
No but see anon, Archie simultaneously was insignificant and didn't matter to the franchise but also significant to affect the franchise!
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>>499995665
Oh no it is, just not so wildly so that Sega cares. There are clear differences in dialogue between JP and EN that make it obvious Sega's vision for these characters in Japanese is meant to be consistent with what they've always done, but also that they don't really give a damn if Ian and the Lore Team don't fully grasp SoJ's intent, so long as they're not completely OOC.
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>>499995832
The same "people" who used the term Meta Era and then went back to praise the writing in Frontiers and Shadow Gens despite it being even more meta than ever before aren't actual humans, they're lemmings with no independent thoughts.
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>>499995990
I was their and saw all the praise for the story and character moments. You're not rewriting history with me.
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>>499995771
Its not common and thus not weird, but its also not a good thing. Shit like IDW gives people the completely incorrect interpretation of these characters. It makes me wonder how that's translated in Japanese.
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Make the chaos drive guns canon
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>>499994096
Yes? What is it?
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How the hell is Black Doom even alive? Its clearly not the Time Eater.
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>>499995685
I won't say I can definitively prove it, but Chase doesn't seem to be in any other role and we know Pollock is Gerald. He's got to be somewhere and the man does have range.
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>>499996203
This.
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>>499996203
what does it say about me if all I see is HFOAM
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>>499996363
Black Arms is a hivemind, I assume he left a piece of himself on the ARK 50 years ago as a contingency plan and when the Black Comet Plan failed he transferred the knowledge to that piece to begin preparing anew.
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Anyone else keep running into out of bounds glitches in original Gens?
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>>499995605
>And the franchise has only benefited from it
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>>499996834
Funny, I'm watching Windii's translation and literally that moment just happened.
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>>499996036
i wouldve prefered if they just pretended that moment in forces never happened instead of this stupid shit
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>>499996834
Shadow should be banned from smiling.
Shadows smile to the female gaze is like Rouges tits to the male gaze.
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>>499997016
Cause it hurts your ego?
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>>499994706
So... does this mean the neutering of Amy was Ian's fault or the lore team's fault?
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>>499996834
I'm going to kill myself because I can't wake up to Shadow's smile every day.
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>>499997161
It started in Lost World
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>>499996954
>Windii's translation
Hey, that was fast.
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Technically it’s PlayStation marketing but they put it over by the Xbox area.
Basically as far away from Nintendo as possible so there’s less traffic over here
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>>499995497
Most of the Ian Flynn dicksucking I saw in the lead up to Frontiers was over his IDW work, mostly Metal Virus.
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>>499997325
Because the Japanese dialogue is literally the same as the English one retard
That psychopathic cunt did almost no work
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>>499994706
>All the forced references lines
>All the other issues in dialogue
>"Things were teaked until everyone was happy"
Well, guess we can't blame just Ian for all the recurring issues.
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>>499997519
There are at least differences where it matters. I would have preferred they drop the references in the Sonic scene though.
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>>499997519
>That psychopathic cunt did almost no work
And here I thought people liked Windii... did she do anything to offend you/us?
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>>499997637
It sounds like we can blame all of them. I can just imagine the circle jerk that is the writing room where they're all giggly like school girls about how much fans are going to love the forced as shit references that were crammed into the script.
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>>499997782
Talk about killing disabled children and harass another translator for having a genetic condition that makes her infertile, all while dating a man and claiming to be a lesbian
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>>499997519
There are a few places where the English script was inexact and gave a different feel to the original. Like when Shadow first spots Maria in White Space he says to himself to focus on the task at hand and ignore dreams, but in the Japanese he calls her an illusion instead.
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>>499997951
Krack pls…
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>>499997951
Holy shit, I was out of the loop on this.
Are you serious? And what did the other translator do to incur her wrath?
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>Metal Overlord mocks you if you try to Chaos Control when he throws that giant ship at you
KINO
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>Maria: Did you see how Shadow acted?
>Gerald: Yep.
>Maria:... were going to die aren't we?
>Gerald: Yep.
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>>499998182
And fans say Solaris was powerful. It's honestly kind of amazing that they even defeated him originally. Also we didn't even fight Metal Madness.
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>>499997951
>all while dating a man and claiming to be a lesbian
SpeepsHighway is a woman
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>>499998189
To be fair, Maria knows she’s going to die, so they probably assume it will be from her illness rather than from being shot.
Gerald, on the other hand, could go darker, thinking something like: "Maybe I’ll off myself after Maria’s death; maybe I should make a mental note not to and find other ways to cope."
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>>499996573
It means you're based
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>>499998323
>And fans say Solaris was powerful.
Bro, there is nothing Metal Overlord could do to Solaris.
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my honest reaction when i look for sonic mods and see tranny mtf sonic mods
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Played the game in Japanese so I went to compare this moment to the English version and its just like... how do people seriously like Kirk's voice?
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>>499985262
>>499985465
I wonder if we'll ever see the 2010s Sonic VA cast be wholesome like this. As far I'm aware, most people either don't like or care about them despite voicing the Sonic cast the longest.
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>>499997865
> I can just imagine the circle jerk that is the writing room where they're all giggly like school girls about how much fans are going to love the forced as shit references that were crammed into the script
Absolutely. Wonder who are the ones inside this lore team, I always assumed it was Japanese, for starters, but it is American?
Where exactly does Toyoda's role as "lore master" even start?
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>>499997124
Because it's milking a blatant fuckup for tedious drama, and inspires no confidence that the correct lesson was learned. Tails reacting to a difficult situation with fear and exhaustion wasn't the problem. It was Forces unconvincing, cheap presentation combined with a decade of solo-sonic obsession
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>>499998552
funny enough they'll be the ones hanging themselves
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Apart from her personality, how good is Windii as a translator?
Are her translations better than the official English version?
Do they truly highlight the differences between the Japanese and English versions?
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>>499997413
That cutout of sonic looks like such a dipshit
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>>499999065
They got this in the back
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Sonic
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>>499998782
I'd imagine they have a JP and EN section of the lore team. And I'd imagine the JP side is more focused on consistency while the EN team is more focused on fanservice.
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>>499998656
Sunk cost fallacy
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>>499998876
Exactly, there was nothing stopping Ian from turning it into a moment where Tails talks about how scared he was that Sonic was gone, with Sonic reminding him that he's still strong on the inside where it counts, and he knows how hard it must have been for him. But instead we get a meta perspective on the whole issue, highlighting how inconsistent the writing has been instead of actually bothering to try and make a touching scene.
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>>499998897
kinda sad but true
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>>499999246
I wouldn't buy any of those games!
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>>499999535
No one did hence why this is in the way back
Sonic Frontiers was the one time they got out in the front and I’m sure store owners regretted it.
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>>499999739
I would buy some shadow and sonic acrylic stands though!
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trip!!!
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>>499999373
shrunk cock flaccid
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>>499999741
did it already outsell mania
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If you ship Shadria I will literally pull your tonsils right out of your throat.
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FIONA FOX!
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>>500000127
Holy shit my dick, stop anon
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>>499999052
>Apart from her personality, how good is Windii as a translator?
Very.
Are her translations better than the official English version?
Yes, but it's not a high bar.
Do they truly highlight the differences between the Japanese and English versions?
Depends on the given material and how far it strayed in localization.
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Um Classicpissters? Our response?
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Why is she always left out in Robotnik family portrait fanart
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>>500000224
She's not a Robotnik. She's a Tinker(er?)
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>>500000000
>>500000000
CHEECK IT OUT
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>>500000127
>Fang and Nicolette both went after redheads

runs in the family I guess
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>>499999999
>>500000000
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>>500000127
DOG SHITTING!
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>>500000224
How would Belle meet Yarnaby
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>>500000127
>m
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>>499979042
return to little planet 2 just started, after that it's sonic vs r34, after that, it's random funnies till its over... Good times were had. Many laughs were had, tears shed, emotes spammed... Can't wait for next year! And next stream!
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>>500000712
i feel really autistic that i kinda like poppy playtime
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*rrrrr-arf!*
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>>500000712
I really thought that was goatse
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>>500000943
Made for pets, scratches, and love
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>>499994524
Porn is an abomination. It's either physically stimulating yet emotionally unfulfilling or emotionally stimulating yet physically unfulfilling.
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>>500000224
Because she’s garbage.
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>>500000943
Whisper after you take her to real therapist
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>>500000224
Who? I've never seen her in any game.
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>>500000224
She brings shame to the family, literal red-headed stepchild.
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>>500000127 (me)
>>500000164
>>500000407
>>500000475
I missed the get, well at least losing the loot is in-character for fiona.

>at least i still got a nice ass
>yet, i always end up crying under the rain
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>>500000220
Any classicshitter worth their salt delved into the fangame/romhack community and left ShitGA behind
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The post numbers look different. I'm scared.
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>>500001237
I want to know what made them split up in the first place.
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>>500000987
It can split It's face
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>>500000017
I was about to congratulate this post for being the first sthg post to enter the big cinco, but it's literally me.
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>>500000224
Eggman strategically crops her out of every photo
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>>500001496
I don't know i don't have the courage to open archie and look 200 issues of autism... besides youtube fandubs i grew up with.
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>>499996573
Agent Walloughby's so hot
My fetish for women in suits and demeaning attitudes intersected in this show.

And that is why I think you all should check out Knuckles on Paramount+, subscriptions starting at only $7.99/mo.
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>>500001036
*live woof react*
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WTF

GAY LITTLE ROBOT
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>>500000475
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Sonic Adventure 3 should be about beating the shit out of Sega
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>>500001873
You misspelled Sage
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>>500001575
why are people hating he so cute
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>>500001698
The last time we saw Scourge he was in Moebius with Fiona and the Destructix. We never got to see what he had planned because of the reboot. He never canonically broke off with Fiona.
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>>500001808
SEXOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>500002210
Do NOT sex the shitting janny!
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>>500000712
>>500001575
Tails doll should be at the same level of hype as exe
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>>500002137
I WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT ENDS AND WHAT THE "JOB" WAS ABOUT

FUCKING DOCTOR NIGGERTEVUS
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>gold meets her grandma
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>>500002892
Call down Bats
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>>500003285
Surge is probably immortal due to her Metal Virus regen
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>>500003396
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>>499979042
Return to little planets 1 and 2 ended, now sonic vs rule 34 is helping us cope with it being over...
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>>500003290
SHUP UP JOKER
i sold the wayne enterprise to fight penders and yet i lost it all
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>>500003458
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>>500003512
imagine the smell
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>>500003591
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>>500003290
He is~
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>>500003657
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>>500003661
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>>500003452
exactly. that's why they're in the same picture
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So what’s the deal with Central City in IDW? Why is it only furries living there when it was a human city in SA2 and Shadow The Hedgehog?
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>>500003661
Do we have cape shippers?
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>>500004059
Mandates.
Specifically licensing mandates because the comics aren’t true canon, much like Prime.
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>>500004059
People don't like seeing Sonic with Humans
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>>500004138
I thought it was said to be canon to the games though.
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>>500003661
Shadow and Knuckles redraw when
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>>500004059
Comic was made in the "No humans" era, and either they're still not allowed, or nobody cares enough to bother to draw them.
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>>499978887
kys blazefag bot (keep yourself safe)
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Here the cannon, the one you like.
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>>500004346
Batman is wearing a speedo Knuckles would be to shy
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>>499984419
CUUUUTE
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>>499980167
Good taste.
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>>500004261
They gave up trying to push that.
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>>500004059
IDW is within the setting of Sonic Forces, thus no humans (2 worlds) and the resistance/restoration being a thing. The comic will be stuck in this time capsule period forever with no changes or advancement due to the original licensing agreement.

>>500004261
It's "canon" filler, a side story with no consequences or impact that can easily be thrown away if neccessary.
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>>499980003
He was definitely not okay when he was taking his meds.
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>>500004614
They shouldn’t have tried pushing it in the first place.
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>>500004738
Cute little gremlin
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>>500004614
>>500004698
Unfortunately the games will reference them going forward from now on.
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>>500004059
Because IDW is not canon as of Frontiers. Sega left it in the dust and at this point is likely exists in the same vain as Archie did, something that's kept around so long as its still successful but will be ignored as soon as its done.
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In nu games (eg Frontiers, Shadow Gens) do you have a different goal speed when on the ground vs when in air?
ie - say I'm running at max speed and holding the stick all the way. Does jumping slow me down because I start decelerating towards a lower goal speed?
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good night /sthg/
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>>500005278
gn blazy
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>>499984419
i like how saleta isn't phased at all
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Why does Blaze makes you angry insecure bich
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>>500005278
mwah
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>>500005161
Then why does Tangle get a mention?
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>>500005380
mwah
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>>500005373
I am ready to DIE for you, your highness.
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>>500005373
Because she's not real
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>>500005373
Sonic rush began the "shitty friends/solo-sonic" trend
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>>500005510
https://files.catbox.moe/a3yg08.ogg
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>>500005425
Because a mention isn't worth much. If Sticks can be cast aside after being within spitting distance of making it into mainline canon, Tangle and all IDW characters are even lower than her.
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>>500005703
Except Tangle stayed in the Japanese version.
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>>500004698
>"wait, why this shit feels so boring?"
>it's canon to the games
>"ok, and?"
>it's also canon throw-away filler
I mean what the fuck...

WHAT THE FUCK are we realistically expecting out of this?
They can't even mix the story with the games like archie, what the fuck are they supposed to do? just doing some minor bullshit stuff eternally because the only last big idea was the metal virus?

If comic characters do not appear in the games what is their purpose, why do they even exist?
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>>500005890
And Sticks was in the Olympic games. Now Sega won't even let her appear in some Christmas art.
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>>500005890
Because idw is still an on-going thing to advertise
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>>500005425
It'll be removed from the remaster in 20 years.
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>>500005907
>If comic characters do not appear in the games what is their purpose, why do they even exist?
They exist for the same reason any of these characters do, to be fun and entertaining. Sadly, they don't do a very good job at that, even if I do think they could be pretty cool.
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>>499979042
Finished with all the planned videos. I have about 2 hours of meme videos and other interesting vids. Time to chillax.
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>>500006004
>The Christmas art
I’m still torn up about this, why are they so Autistic about eras?
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>>500006034
That Chris Hernandez fucker probably just said they were canon in an attempt to boost sales and stir attention towards it.
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I love how the sonic series just had a huge success and I still feel an underlying anxiety because sega's next move could still be completely bonkers andthrow everything into freefall again
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>>500006331
You cant be anxious. Just go with the flow! The adventure is the true fun of it! And yes. I am Sonic.
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>>500006170
>to be fun and entertaining
More like to be useless, and when something is useless internet gives them a job in the porn industry.
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>>500006286
kek why do you think sonic prime made the shouneniggers so mad
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>>500005627
Sega's interpretation of 06 backlash started that trend.
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>>500006404
I mean, successful characters get that treatment too.
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>>500004698
This "2 worlds" shit is so fucking stupid. Lizuka should be beaten with reeds. Stupid cunt. How do you even justify something like that? You'd have to think Sonic X was meant to be the backstory of the games that openly contradict it.
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>>500006478
And the game after 06 gave sonic a boost button and made everyone else a passive npc. They just dropped the pretense and made you play sonic twice
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>>500006829
...Yes
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>>500006491
Yes, but they end up sucking crazy frog dicks!
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>>500006642
>Stupid cunt. How do you even justify something like that?
You spend too long around Americans and decide to entertain their Mobius bullshit, even if it conflicts with what the games clearly were, by the time of sonic adventure
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>>500006941
Sonic team sold their soul to the purple devil
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>>499994706
More like:
>Ian is a nice fall guy if the story is complete shit and critically panned.
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>>499995605
... on April Fool's Day.
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*takes a handful of sleeping pills*
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>>500006642
>>500007047
>this 2 world things is fucking stupid
>*looks behind*
>*stares at thousands of parallel universe and multiverses and stuff started since marvel and DC comics came to be*
Multiverse fatigue i got.
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>>500005907
>WHAT THE FUCK are we realistically expecting out of this?
More dull Steven Universe garbage pandering to 12 year olds and their 20-something year old groomers on Twitter.
>They can't even mix the story with the games like archie, what the fuck are they supposed to do?
Should've just copied the old DBZ movies and had original self-contained stories where Sonic fights a new cool badass villain with great fight scenes and then they get killed and everything goes back to status quo. Surge and Kit's arc was set up to potentially do that, but they stuck around to become crying lesbian and crying lesbian (male) instead of fucking dying spectacularly in a satisfying climax to the story.
>If comic characters do not appear in the games what is their purpose, why do they even exist?
Those characters are unironic DEI hires. The writers have stated characters were created to fix the gender inequality in the cast (See Ian Flynn discussing the creation of Tangle because Blaze is the only "kick-butt female").
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>>500007347
That was Ian Mutchler, not Ian Flynn.
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>>500007047
Mobius was Earth in the future and featured both mobians and humans intermingling though,.
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So Amy's character assassination was a group effort?
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>>500007597
I had honestly thought as much, but it's still sad to see.
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>>500007597
>I was afraid I'd never be able to flirt with you again!
There was nothing worth saving. nu-Amy is objectively better
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Goodnight. I (Espio's human wife) love my husband.
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>>500007546
Robotnik is the only human and sonic lives in knothole
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>>500007739
kys
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>>500007443
Lmao at the homos.
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Look.
Archie/SatAM isn't canon
>Aosth isn't entirely de-canonized but:
>Eggman's real name IS Ivo Robotnik
>Mobius isn't canon. Sonic takes place on HUMAN-INHABITED EARTH, but
>Aosth and other canon "Mobius" pieces of media (Underground) take place in an isolated region on Earth that's CALLED Mobius, but its span/size is largely exaggerated due to sonic and tails being very young when these events take place
>Underground is canon in it's entirety
>Sonic Boom is de-canonized and waved away as Sticks the Badger's (the character in isolation in real canon [she is canon]) schizo imaginings after seeing sonic and the gang one time but never making contact with them
>Blaze is from a Mirror dimension that COINCIDENTALLY IS ALSO IN THE FUTURE RELATIVE TO THIS DIMENSION
>Silver is from the future and prevents time paradoxes by traveling between then and now to make sure his parents fuck and stuff.
>Modern Sonic is Sonic all grown up
>Classic Sonic is young Sonic
If you see anything wrong with this or have questions, let me know. You are wrong.
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Iizuka and his geezer ass basically just handed the franchise to a bunch of agenda-pushing fuckheads at SoA who proceed to rape it with their American "sensibilities". What a fucking weakling. Naka would've laughed at he idea of a "lore team".

We get rid of Pontaff and more trouble rears its ugly head.
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>>500007785
Snively
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>>500007791
Kill yourself.
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>>500007730
How is being the third sonic sidekick an upgrade from having her own team?
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>>500007842
>Aosth isn't entirely de-canonized
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>>500007730
Yeah, and you're going to say that too when Amy is made a lesbian, you limp-wristed slop guzzler.
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>>500007785
snoic gets jis hole knotted by tails knightly
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>>500007842
America tainted this franchise like the bombs did Japan
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>>500007923
"Team" rose was in name only, it was just the bucket for characters with nowhere else to go
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>>500007923
Let's not pretend Team Amy had any legs after Heroes. Out of the 4, hers was the most superfluous.
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>>499981791
>how badly Sonic has been mutilated since the introduction of Surge.
As somebody who doesn't read IDW, what do you mean with this?
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>>500007842
>Silver is from the future and prevents time paradoxes by traveling between then and now to make sure his parents fuck and stuff.
Silver is never stated to do this, his time traveling gimmick is used specifically to stop threats in the past that cause the future to be destroyed, and causality either doesn't exist, or Silver is immune to the effects of time being altered.
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Ian? Ships Amy X Bark
Katie? Ships Amy X Shadow
Evan? Ships Sonic X Shadow X Tikal
Sonamy? Never stood a chance
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>>500007842
Sometimes i stare at this script and i tell mysell: "I am a huge faggot for sure, but i could right a much better coherent story than fucking sega writers".

>santiago is young sonic
They turned him into an "hedgehog from another dimension" despite generations being a time travel thing.
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SoA really fucking hates Amy.
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>>500007990
But anon, that's exactly what xhe wants.
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>>500008052
h-hot...
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>>500007791
she doesn't need to keep herself safe, that is her chameleons husband's job
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>Sonic Adventure 2
Hero Story and Dark Story
>Sonic Heroes
Team Sonic and Team Dark
>Sonic 06
Sonic, Shadow and Silver
>Sonic 06 flops
>IGN says "Sonic's friends need to go"
>Only Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles are allowed

What happened here?
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What member of the Lore Team made Amy into a fedora-tipper in the Frontiers DLC?
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>>500008117
>his time traveling gimmick is used specifically to stop threats in the past that cause the future to be destroyed
And despite this he's completely useless since the timeline has to be fucked by eggman or others from time to time, otherwise you don't get the action based franchise you love so much.
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>>500007972
>>500008052
bad and conflicting with canon taste.
>>500008117
>Silver is immune to the effects of time being altered.
This explains why we dont see him for a while sometimes. Simple.
>>500008150
Exactly. Also mania was just a roleplaying for fun game put on by all the classic cast... minus eggman.
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>>500008396
UOOOH, prehistoric blobian loli pussy....
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>>500008319
>What happened here?
You just said it
>Sonic 06 flops
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>>500008416
The thing is you would expect them to resort a lot more on AUs since they KNOW they have a tendency to change stuff previously created... But no, let's canonize everything because the average faggot is an Marvel CU soiboy nowdays and get live without muh cannons.
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>>500007842
>>500008416
You're a braindead retard. Fuck off.
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>>500008141
Evan is fucking weird.
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>>500008717 (me)
*who can't live without muh cannons
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>>500008112
NTA, but Surge's entire purpose was to push the "Why doesn't Batman kill the Joker?" dilemma, since IDW decided to have Sonic push for Eggman to be spared and given "A second chance" despite everything he's already done.
This wouldn't nearly be as bad as it is if they just had Sonic do his own thing and let other people do whatever they wanted to do to Eggman, but IDW has Sonic actively try to convince people to let him go, and even teams up with Eggman and Metal to stop Surge and Kit rather than the other way around.
The whole thing is framed in such a way that you can tell the writers wanted Surge to be in the right, and for Sonic to be this borderline evil psychopath who cares more about proving himself right than the people his actions end up hurting.
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>>499984419
>You are aware I can self regulate my body temperature, correct?
>This will conserve our energy!
>... Very well.
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>>500007990
I think Amy should get a new OC love interest since they can't commit to Sonic.
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Reminder that Yuji Naka for sabotaging the Sonic X-treme team by not letting them use the NiGHTS engine

Reminder that SA1 and SA2 were built to take full advantage of the Dreamcast hardware. The palette-based "Lantern" lighting engine from Sonic Adventure was ahead of its time. Iizuka wanting something transparent and liquid since the technology now allowed it, the team came up with Chaos. They had to drop it to hit SA2 60fps on Dreamcast and SADX 60fps on GC.

Reminder that Sega threw away the Sonic Adventure 1/2 engine made in Sega Katana, an SDK for the Dreamcast and gave us Renderware garbage for Heroes and Shadow because Sony demanded that Sonic has to run on PS2's emotion engine

Reminder that SonicNextGen was built for the Xbox 360, rushed for holiday release, and then SEGA wanted to port it to PS3's CELL and Wii

Reminder that Unleashed and Generations were built exclusively for the Xbox 360 and look amazing to this day

Reminder that Sonic 4 and Episode 2 flopped so hard that everyone forgot about it

Reminder that Sega screwed themselves by making 3 mandatory sonic games on the Wii U

Reminder that the developers created Sonic Boom with an engine incompatible with Wii U then botched the port

Reminder that Sonic Mania was made by Sonic fans as a love letter to 90s Sonic that grabs the most fun parts of Sonic's gameplay into his level design, most of the frustrating moments of the original classic games can't be found here, and Sega of Japan hated it and gave us SuperStars

Reminder Sonic Colors Ultimate was outsourced garbage

Reminder SADX PC and that Sonic modders spent over 10 years fixing the PC port for free

Reminder that Unleashed and Black Knight were the last Sonic games written by Shiro Maekawa

Reminder that Shadow is Iizuka's favorite Sonic Character (to the point where he wears an iced Shadow Medallion) and wanted Sonic X airing next to DBZ

Reminder Ian Flynn only knows how to write overly self-referential stuff (Dude Remember Time Stones?)
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>>500008717
A lot more au's means less overall profits when conpared to consolidation. Similar to how archie/satam fans ONLY want satam, but sega doesnt make satam games. why try to bring back the past by forcing it in the future when you can go back and just re-connect it with less effort.
>>500008774
And why's that?
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>>500008319
>games introduced new characters with unwanted/bad gameplay styles
>people were retarded and acted like introducing new characters was the problem, and not the unwanted/bad gameplay styles
>sega was retarded and actually listened
>baldy mcnosehair
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>>500009041
>with unwanted/bad gameplay styles

Shadow played the same as Sonic in SA2 and Heroes
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>>500008981
They're going to die of stagnation anyways, after all we're talking about furry animals who can't even bleed, plus they don't make shit to them it's not like they'll profit more anyways.
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>>500009103
He had a weird anime tragic backstory so he got lumped in with the shitty gimmicks as the reason the series fell apart
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>>500009249
Sonic will never die.
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>>500009375
>He had a weird anime tragic backstory so he got lumped in with the shitty gimmicks as the reason the series fell apart

Sonic was inspired by Ghibli and Toriyama

-Nausiccaa of the Valley of the Wind - Seems to be set in the same universe, sharing designs for clothing and creatures
-Nadia Secret of Blue Water - Girl with blue crystal, descendant of an ancient civilization
-Final Fantasy - Identical airship designs, crystals, lost princesses
-Panzer Dragoon series - Airships, ancient civilizations, incredibly destructive one-word spell [Ne-rai in Panzer Dragoon Saga]
-Rodea the Sky Soldier[?] - Possibly just cultural osmosis, but the boy meets girl story with giant war robots and floating islands is VERY Ghibli
-Sonic the Hedgehog - Blatant lmao. Everything from Eggman's design to peaceful robots who were made for war. Laputa and Angel Island are essentially the same damn thing
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>>500009443
Yeah, Even if somehow Sonic Team and SEGA went under, somebody would always pick it up to make a 6/10 title every 5 years
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>>500009472
Most of us already know this stuff. Sadly, none of that means anything to the critics at the time.
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>>500009472
I know all this shit, but all the loud avgn ripoff douchebags loved Sonic 2 so that's what sega's target audience was after the blowback from 06 snipped their nuts off
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>>500009472
>>500009653
Sonic is Goku
Knuckles is Piccolo
Eggman is Dr Gero
Superforms are ripoffs of Super Saiyan
Chaos Emeralds are ripoffs of Dragon Balls
Tails is a ripoff of Kitsune from Uresei Yatsura and Gohan
Amy is a ripoff of Princess Peach, many badly-forced-in cliche Sailor Moon tropes and Kaori from City Hunter (1981)
The Death Egg is a ripoff of the Death Star
Shadow is a ripoff of Shion from PSME and Vegeta
Maria is a ripoff of Mokuren from PSME
SA2 is a ripoff of PSME
Silver is Trunks
The playstyle of the genesis games is a ripoff of Mario
Lost World was a ripoff of Mario Galaxy
The Zeti are a ripoff of the Koopalings
Sage is a ripoff of Rei Ayanami
Surge and Kit are a ripoff of the Dragon Ball Androids
The character design philosophy is a ripoff of Bokko from Wonder 3
Tails Adventure is a ripoff of Metroid
The Witchcarters are ripoffs of Disney characters like Pete and Gruntilda
Mecha Sonic from 2 and the ensuing Metal series are a ripoff of Mechagodzilla
Whisper and her old team are ripoffs of Metal Gear characters
Honey the Cat is a ripoff of Honey from Fighting Vipers
Bean is a ripoff of Dynamite Ducks
The Tornado and the entire sky-chase gameplay is a ripoff of Rockin Kats
Flickies are ripoffs of the titular character from the game Flicky
Angel Island is a ripoff of Laputa from Ghibli
Frontiers is a ripoff of Breath of the Wild
Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine is a ripoff of Same Game
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>>500009864
No.
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>>500009864
>kalk
ok
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>>500008981
>A lot more au's means less overall profits when conpared to consolidation
A lot more AU means experimentations which means potential extra profit or a loss, they're just stuck in a conservative mode trying to use always the same safe shots and get guaranteed profits. But i don't think it will work forever as people age and get tired of it (i mean, it's hard for autismos to get tired of something but they could).
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>>500009864
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>>500008512
Taking into account the least amount of work required and easily reusable HD assets
>Anything from Lost World
>Sky Troops (empty skybox with basic floating platforms that can reuse textures from Frontiers)
>VS Infinite
>VS Zavok
>Ifrit Dimension (literally Crisis City again)
I would've suggested Black Comet or Emerl but that would require too much effort for a small indie developer like Sonic Team
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>>500010667
>I would've suggested Black Comet or Emerl but that would require too much effort for a small indie developer like Sonic Team

Unleashed and Gens pushed 360 to its limit.
Forces, Frontiers and Shadow Gens has to run on Switch hardware.
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Milk
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>>500010650
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>>500010743
Black Comet would need new textures and Emerl would need a new model and animations and stuff. It's really just too much work.
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>>499978812
We need Shadow Riders next.
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You guys should go for a jog some more and quit processed food, it's quite refreshing to have working body pulsating with power and a more lovely appearance.
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>>500011525
only if I can chase her down and request her phone number
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>>500011525
Who's this cutie?
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>>500011525
>Human body
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>>500011715
Argento, his personal OC.
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Every Sonic game from now on should force you to play as Amy, considering how perfect she is now
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>>499979042
Sweep'O'Ween is on its last few videos. Thanks to everyone that showed up! It was really fun! I'll make sure to do my usual mini-sweeps during the week, and I might start something more consistent soon... Till next time. Bye-Bye.
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>>500011961
consider me pissing on you
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>>500011961
It would be more fun to play as anyone other than slopnic the boringhog
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>>500012049
Had a blast, thanks.
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Hm.
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>>500012431
What could anyone possibly see in Shadow of all people? He’s a weapon.
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>>500012304
It was certainly way past cool...
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dead thread
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Where are the 9 last chests?
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>>500012431
You can tell Maria has feelings for Shadow due to how much she was touching him in the game.
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Kingdom Valley is fun
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>>500013196
That girl is a menace.
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>>500012431
Where did she confirmed it? Can't find anything on her twitter.
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>>500013854
interesting... thanks!
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I like Sonamy and Sonaze.
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>>500014264
>off-model dog feet
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>>500014306
Um based?
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>>500012431
>>500013854
Shadow and Maria are meant to be siblings/dear friends but Japanese people happen to be retarded incest loving weirdos in all anime/game contexts regardless of canon for some ungodly culture based reason. It’s sick and I don’t respect or acknowledge it
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>>500014490
Shadow and Maria aren’t siblings.
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>>500014490
Maria and Shadow are lovers.
back to twitter thin skinned faggot
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>>500014463
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>>500014463
Cringe
>>500014628
Based
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>>500014601
This will never be canon and you’re a degenerate
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>>500014628
Thank you, I'll use this image for my on-model blobian ai model
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>>500014490
>Shadow and Maria are meant to be siblings/dear friends but Japanese people happen to be retarded incest loving weirdos in all anime/game contexts regardless of canon for some ungodly culture based reason. It’s sick and I don’t respect or acknowledge it
They aren't even blood related, holy shit you shouldn't be on 4chan, xitter is unironically more of your speed.
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In Sonic Rush's lore, Eggman Nega is the alternate universe counterpart to Eggman, but Blaze is Sonic and Knuckles' alternate universe EQUIVALENT, not their direct universal literal counterpart. Does that imply there's a Sonic Nega in Blaze's world somewhere running around? Or Knuckles Nega, Tails Nega, or Amy Nega? And does Sonic's world have a Blaze Nega somewhere? Is it like a Kirby and the Amazing Mirror situation where the alternate dimension counterparts are worthless nobodies except the villains?
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>>500014843
Maria loves Shadow romantically. It’s right there in the dialogue that SEGA Japan approved.
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>>500014954
Cope forever and ever fag
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>>500015036
>projection
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>>500015036
Twittertroon.
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>>500014490
Shadow and Maria are """inspired""" characters from a manga in which the Shadow rapes the Maria and then they are reincarnated, with the reincarnations also having a fucked up /ss/ relationship. This is a core part of the characters, with Maria having the same Japanese VA as her inspiration. You need to accept the truth that Maria and Shadow were always designed by their creator to fuck and suck. Denial is unhealthy.
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Me x The girl reading this
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>>500015276
I have a penis
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>>500015327
Then you arent a female... but you could be me... this is very perplexing.
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>>500015247
>Maria having the same Japanese VA as her inspiration
Say what now? (Was this before or after the recast?)
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>>500014490
Fresh cannon ship coming through!
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>>499985465
That's an exagerated Rouge's bust.
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>>500015948
Those look extremely silly.
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>>500015948
Edgekino.
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>>500015247
Which manga?
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>>500014264
This and Sticks underrated ships.
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Knang the Snipeaster
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>>500014950
Mirror dimensions are such a shit trope
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Our Japanese friends are arguing that Generations aged worse than Unleashed gameplay wise, others are claiming this port is just bad.
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>>500017852
it did age worse
unleashed was the last game they put any real effort into
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>>500017852
Everyone’s playing for the Shadow portion, who cares.
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>S-see? Shadria is canon! This Shadria shipper who knows some secondhand japanese said so!
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>>500017957
kys blazebot
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Any guide for the machine parts?
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>>500018176
>the troon is having a schizophrenic meltdown
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>Shadria is canon
now what
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>>500018356
>NOOOOL UOU NEED TO SEE MY CRACKSHIP AS CANON
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>>500018512
>the troon is having a continued meltdown
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not my cannon = shit cannon
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Shadriafags once again prove that all they care about is demanding that everyone else stop shipping anything other than Shadria because they're retarded and obsessed freaks.
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>New Shadria hater meltdown in 3, 2, 1...
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Sangria?
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i miss the shippers that don't take themselves so seriously, this guy freaks me out
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>>500015682
As it should be
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>>500018981
>my huge tits are down there
Well now that you make me notice...
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>>500015436
Yuri Shiratori is Maria and Alice

>>500016561
Please Save My Earth. Maekawa has discussed how it served as inspiration multiple times.
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>Hurrr durr accuse shadouge of taking itself so seriously when shadriafags don't even accept that their crackship is just a crackship
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>>499978812
That's cursed as hell, and I hate you.
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Can someone define what a crackship is?
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>>500018038
Well the argument they’re making is Generations should have been redone to run on Hedgehog 2, had Shadows gameplay and model quality.
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>>500019236
A crack ship is a ship that is highly ridiculous, bizarre, disturbing, and/or unlikely to ever become canon. The characters don't have any chemistry, never interact, are in different canons or timelines, are different species, one is an inanimate object, etc. Fans can and do sincerely ship a crack ship, but generally they don't take its chances too seriously and may like it precisely for its implausibility. On the other hand, one fan's crack ship can be another's OTP. Often a fan will create a one-off fanwork for a crack ship as a joke.

Crack ships can appear in crackfic, but angsty or otherwise serious fanfic can also be devoted to crack ships.
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Anyone else notice them having characters saying lines fast as fuck in the new dub of Gens not to throw off the timing?
It’s like early anime dubs
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>>500019291
Thank you.
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>>500019357
prease understand we needed to insert as many references as possible
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>>500019236
A ship that is weird, unusual, unlikely to be canon.
There are some cases where a crackship is canon or canon adjacent.
Shadally, for example, is a crackship. Sally only exists in continuities where she is in love with someone other than Shadow, even if Sonic himself is aromantic.
Shadria is largly not a crackship please don't murder me angry guy. It is only seen that way in the west due to the massive discrepancy between Maria's age and and Shadow's american vocal performance.
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>>500019291
A crackship is a ship full of crack that canon-iggers smoke entirely every day.
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>>500017852
The Unleashed cutscenes are still gorgeous to this day, best looking Sonic title by a mile and the Boost System at it's most peak and unwatered down form.
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>>500019236
any ship that I don't personally agree with
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>>500019530
This sounds like the Sonic fandom definition of a crackship
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>>500019587
>>500019587
>>500019587
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>>500019505
why can't we have an animated movie like this with good writing
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>>500019357
No? I swear you idiots are just straight up making stuff up to be mad about. Maybe that's why Sonic Team keeps making bad games, cause they know they're audience doesn't actually want to be happy.
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>>500020579
it's because all the people with talent were absorbed by nintendo decades ago
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>>500019291
That's just every Sonic ship ever
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>>499995901
That’s what Richmunk claims but he’s a well known liar.
Kuta goes off all the time about how his movie nearly got made but the manbaby had no prior knowledge or experience as to how Hollywood works. Didn’t have any credits to his name prior to it or after the attempt. None of the big studios were going to give him the creative freedom he wanted with an IP like Sonic.
Even Sega ended up telling him to stop sending them shit regarding his movie.



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