Crossover edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2024-update.40951/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcLast Thread:>>500005067
>>500084358Deadlock Delight
Vindicta best girl.
>>500077075>>500083972So does this mean that Emissary is the average rank?
Literally every fucking game has been decided by gray talon this company is fucking filled with subhumans they all need to be hangedI genuinely have not seen a worst balance since overwatch, this is very close to somehow beating that.
So I've been thinking, creeps after 10 minutes give each around 100 souls. Each creep wave have 4 creeps on each lane that all spawns at the same time from the enemy base.My thinking is, what stops a seven from sneaking into the enemy base, ulting the creep spawns for an instand 1600 souls (or 3200 with refresher in just 30 seconds) and then fucking off. No one is going to pay attention to their base if the walkers aren't blown up and if they zipline in, they're going to get stunned and possibly killed if you have escalating exposure. Am I onto something here?
>>500084358Vindicta nerfs in 2 weeks trust the plan
High rank people (Phantom-Eternus) what games did you play before Deadlock? Do you have to spend 10000 hours in mobas/shooters to gitgud?
>>500084571According to Tracklock Archon II is the midpointI would not be surprised if their numbers were slightly off and the delineation point is programmed to be between Emissary VI and Archon I
>fourth game in a row with an abrams that ends up with 2x the souls of anyone else and an 26-2 k/dHe didn't even get buffed that hard this patch, what is going on?
post hot deadlock ai slop already...
>>500084617sorry that was me i just like playing strong heroes in ranked :^)
>>500084764Forgot pic
>>500084707Dota 2 smite league hots etc I came out the womb playing these games my G
>>500084707>lost ark, osrs, ffxiv, poe>cowadoody>street fighterhavent invested any significant time into a moba since dota 2 like 8 years ago unless you count playing smite casually with my gf and i'm ascendant
>>500084617sorry but I like winning
>>500084707>phantom 2>11 hours in dota 2>400+ hours in overwatch>3000+ hours in tf2
>>500084673That sounds more complicated and risky than just farming or advancing lanes. Also, like hell would people not care about Seven ulting in their base.
>>5000847074000 hours in dota (im still trash)2000 hours in CSGO in high school2000 hours in League in high schoola few hundreds of hours across other fps gamesuncountable amount of hours in all types of RPG and strategy games
>>500084673>THE ENEMY IS IN OUR BASE! DEFEND ME!>wtf is seven doing? free kill
I was mystic when tracklock still had meme ranks, is this reasonably accurate (top ~20%) or was it completely vapid?
>>500084884This really rubs in the fact that I got sent to Initiate 3. I guess I'm not good at shooters or playing against people.
>>500084883you'll figure it out soon enough if you play ranked
>>500084707I've never played a MOBA and barely touched PvP shooters before Deadlock and got sent to Initiate 3. I assume long time TF2 and/or Dota 2 players (especially "and") had a head start.
>>500085125Well the spawns are on a fixed timer, so you could just go in, ult and go out in 10 seconds, so by the time people realize what's happening, you'd be long gone and you'd throw some balls on their jungle on the way out. It's so stupid, there's no way they'd expect it.
Seven ult buffs are pretty good for early - mid game at least.
>>500084707I don't think Phantom is really high rank but>never played a moba>played overwatch from release to season 1 (got diamond) >lots and lots of single player shooters from doom wads to ultrakill>a lot of jrpgs too >700 hours on btd6
inhouse?
>>500085513I have 2000 hours in CSGO, 20 hours in Overwatch and 0 hours in any mobaI stomped like my first 20 games just brooling and then immediately started hard feeding for my next 100 until I figured out what macro was, so that tracks
>>500085751Outhouse.
>>500084707oh yea im the guy who plays a lot of grindslop mmos and i was gm in overwatch from like season 2-8 until i quit playing that trash
>>500085635From phantom 4 and above in most regions you are top 4k in that region so yes its pretty high lmao
>>500084679playing against vindictas who DON'T have tf2 sniper training. is realll great
>>500084673in the base with bd protection, you get zapped even outside of the pit.
>>500085787What macros are you using? Actually, doesn't that count as cheating?
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>500085635I don't know if this is a moba thing but people here are really delusional about ranks. They'll call anything under Eternus poop mmr.
>>500085336ke
>>500085957This is where I was a month agoMacro = big picture what to do in the match, like which lane to push or which fight to takeMicro = individual actions in individual situation, ie baiting out Abrams shoulder slam before popping ult as Haze or last hitting a creep before poking the enemy lanerI never thought about this until I started playing the inhousesI don't have any input macros
>>500085974its just terminally online retards in any game
>>500085325Ah, true, oh well, that would've been funny.>>500085941The patron would shoot you if you don't have any base guardians destroyed? Ah, too bad.
>>500085960ok retard you can stop spamming this
>>500085864>>500085974I'm phantom 2 which according to tracklock is top 75% on south america, it's above average but I'd only start bragging about top 10%. 4chan also attracts people who play this game a lot which is why the rank average is a bit higher
>>500086257no, it's like a torment pulse effect anywhere in the base
>>500085974when I played hearthstone people would say the same thing about people who are below top 1000they would call top 10000 "the dumpster"
First time I've ever recieved a direct message on the forums.
>>500085974In CSGO they would call everyone including Global Elites trash because "anyone can get carried to global in a 5 stack, if you're not Faceit 10 or on a pro team you're garbage"
>>500086340You are top 800 in your region people also don't realize valve could have easily combined the last 3 ranks and gave out numbers like dota
>>500086192So strategy?
>>500086340>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>south america
I don't like that the slot machines turn towards you now.
>>500086674Because there are a lot less people on the server compared to EU and NA, an Archon player is top 2k on SA. I don't think they'll put numbers so soon though, they are only calibrating ranks once a week and giving numbers instead of broad ranks go against that.
>>500086824Basically, but my understanding is that all the moba fags think it's 90% solved and you should just know when to push which walker or not, rather than like in CSGO where someone in the game is calling the shots in the moment for the teamSo if you spawn and go to work on the walker in your lane again instead of going to yellow walker because 4 are showing on the other side of the map, meppz screams at you for being trash
>do gun build miku or bebop to brool>always end up turning my brain on and ooobjectiving insteadhow do i stop this?
Post your playtime and your rank>350 hours, Phantom 3
>>500086998
>>500087208asneedant 4
>>500087226Add "sinner's sacrifice is actually a creep" to the iceberg
>>500087208Ascendant 4282 hours
>>500087208227.4Initiate 3
What the fuck happened to Infernus? I was gone for two weeks and now I cant seem to kill anyone. I get ignored every teamfight and it makes no difference
>>500087517quick question, are you a ricochet tard
>>500087208Phantom 4 315 hours
>>500086280no you don't understand, it helps establish a general's "culture" to make the same post in every thread, without fail, and also to have many such posts appearing in every thread without fail. That's how people who find the general for the first time understand what the posters in it are like.
>>50008720824.3eternus 3
>>500084707played league in pre-season to season 2about 10k hours in CS and games like itabout 10k hours in 1st/3rd person survival shooters / BRsI'm mid ascendant
>>500087612Usually? But I'm not even getting to 6k items before we get rolled and lose
inhouse upcode: KND5V
>>500087686how many rubles did you pay
>>500087910lobby just crashed for some reason.R8SS2
Why does the game get less fun every patch?
>>500087208200, Oracle 5
>>500087725if you get an early spiritual overflow your damage output increases tremendously, ricochet is a noobtrap
>>500088006lmao have a few great players here that lurk steal info and doesnt credit DLG but you didnt hear that from meall i know that people started spamming miku and got shadow weave nerf after people here claiming it was S+ tier
>>500088264I cant even seem to fucking hit people so it doesnt matter. My aim feels super weird and floaty. Did they change some setting around this? Feels fucking awful
>>500088216it gets more fun actually
First pass at Miku Turret Build for inhouse.
>>500088462kill yourself talon abuser
>>500088108deadlock network offline, how we sposed to join
Deadflop. Concord II.
>>500088574prepatch webm doe
>>500088108Sorry, probably my fault because I joined and left while you were the only one there.I think when someone leaves, the server checks the player count and crashes the lobby if only the host is left.
I mostly play duo lanes, but every time I get put into a solo lane it ends up being one of the most boring things ever. We'll maybe exchange a kill or 2, but for the most part it seems like every solo lane devolves into just farming for ~10 minutes until someone ganks and one of the guardians is finally taken.
>>500088409not to my knowledge, but i normally just magdump them after ulting so that's where most of my gun damage comes from
>>500088462you had ammo could've just clicked on him
>>500088843yeah but i wanted to melee him to give him a fair chance. after all everyone in dlg says that all you have to do to beat melee is parry.
R8SS2need 7 more.
gee Grey Talon how come you get to have two ways to convert spirit power as a passive?
>>500084707phantom 3 played vainglory (some shite moblie moba) 2k hours. smite 150 hours thats it. mobas are about using your head
>>500088747Yup. Early kills don't give enough souls, so there's no reason to fight and you're just kind of punished for it. Duo lanes you have enough going on to farm and fight so it's fun.
>>5000847072k hours of dota, unknown amount of league over a decade ago, 1k hours of HotS, and 100 hours of battleborn
>>500088513You can add fleetfoot and pristine emblem for your free gun slots.
>>500089374It's just reparation for my people
if you're not playing vindicta i'll take her. but i don't wanna be a ballhog
>>500088513This has alot of the core items for turret miku but alot of it is just terribleGet rid of extra spirit, bullet resist shredder, unstoppable and refresher. I'd like to single out majestic leap as being comically bad on miku even before the nerf.You shoud fill up all four orange items even if only with 500g items, monster rounds i'd particularly reccomend. As things stand you'd need more than four flex slots if you wanted to have your mid core items and any of the optional extras.
>>500089180For the love of god just remember to shuffle before starting.
>still can't load a custom game or private bot match with the Herolabs heroes SHIT GAME GAY GAME FUCK YOU>"use console com-"DOESNT WORK FUCK YOU
>>500089704u can play your support vindicta i dont care
im playing grenade paradox. might eat an edible like the stupid retard i am hehe he
mikue only my wife...
>>500084707>>500089601Never played a moba before. Played some TF2.I mostly play indie games, puzzle games, and RPGs
>>500089880make sure to bong up on the mic
They break spectating? Won't connect to any of my friends games.
Posted the inhouse link on the subreddit, hope you guys don't mind.
>>5000847074 years of League (Master)800 hours in CS (Silver Elite Master though)
>>500090206just ask your friends to stream, spectating sucks ass.
>>500090417go back
>>500089998>only played the seven required gamesBased?
INHOUSE INHOUSE INHOUSER8SS2 R8SS2 R8SS2 R8SS2JOIN WHILE YOU CAN 6/12 NOOBS FEEL FREE TO JOIN
>Mystic Burst>Mystic Vulnerability>Cold Front>Majestic LeapYup, I'm online. Time to rack up KPA before my team and the enemy team realizes I picked a dead weight ultbot hero.
>>500090705What if that faggot epezz or whatever his name was yells at them?
>>500089880when you're fully cooked play great alan. you'll be useless but you'll be having the most fun in the match
>>500090784grow thicker skin i guess(he's not here right now)
>>500090784>shitty feeder that can only play crutch heroes is also the most obnoxiousI genuinely always pick the opposite team to him because he's so annoying on mic
This might be the worst patch yet. Wake me up for next patch day
banned inhouse players>bighat>laasti>duppy>meppz
>>500091434banned inhouse players(you)
>>500091358MnK are literally unkillable in lane
>>500091358>miku gets buffed>Number of players goes downmiku players are honest and will not play an op character
>>500084679>>500091434free him
>>500089726>I'd like to single out majestic leap as being comically bad on miku even before the nerf.I agree with most of this, but why hate on Majestic Leap?Is it just that it doesn't do as much as fleetfoot at more then double the cost in your eyes? Because I really value being able to switch lanes rapidly as Miku.
>>500091358bro? you cropped abrams and warden?
>>500091632>griefer is slavicNot big surprise
>>500091358STOP BUFFING MY KRILLL I DONT WANT HIM TO GET NERFED DONT PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON HIM
>>500091603miku was already op last patch just this patch shes op in a way thats a lot less fun its egirl tier to spam turrets and have them play the game for you
R8SS2Join the inhouse now! Just three spots remaining! You could get spotted for a pro team. Girls will be watching. You could pick up a new girlfriend. Anything could happen.
>>500091358Lmao im waiting for the next patch just been watching tape in the meantimeJerax dropped the game crazy enough he was no life it before the September patches guess he doesn't like the direction it's going in
>>500091894>Girls will be watching.but im gay
Place your bets. PLEASE remember to shuffle
>>500085974People are like this with every game. If you're below their rank they assume you must be retarded. If you're above their rank they assume you must be boosted.
>>500091963man swap the teams around you already know that team is bullshit
>FULL TEAM WIPE ON A LOSING GAME>FREE MID BOSS>2 GUYS GO, REST DECIDE TO GO SHOPPING>BUY ENOUGH TIME FOR ENEMIES TO WAKE UP WIPE US AND END THE GAMEGENUINE FUCKING RETARDS LITERALLY RETARDED FUCKING MORONS HOW ARE THOSE PEOPLE EVEN BREATHING
>>500092030maybe if more of you fuckers talked it wouldnt be such a problem
How do you know who the host is? You can see him shuffling until it's in his favor lol
>>500092278everyone can shuffle lol
enough shuffling
One (1) more for inhouseR8SS2R8SS2R8SS2
>>500092352That seems like a stupid design
>>500091885yept. leap ultginnis fag who jumped to GT out of spite
>hero labs games impact ranked elofucking why
>>500091728Just for you Anon.I personally have no issues with Abrams because I enjoy the mindgames of melee baiting and I always get healbane anyway. Surprised to see Paradox so high though, in my mind she is still doesn't register as a threat
>>500092651What
forced 50 join the game team retard
>>500092651Hilarious if true.
>>500092701cant im making pasta
Whats the point of Return Fire? Seriously, Metal skin does it's job infinitely better if you're getting shit on by bullet builds and the damage vs attacker is a total meme cause they'll just outheal it anyways with lifesteal items.
>>500092976It's cheaper than metal skin, idiot.
>>500092976because the damage returned is before your mitigations.
>>500084982>another downplaying geist tard who literally gets to vomit out 3 abilities every 10 seconds while having one of the strongest fucking guns for trading in existence and thinks any sort of justified nerf makes her 'unplayable'you cunts are so boosted it's crazy. 2500 nekoscore geist = 1500 anything else. I used to be on a team and we put the resident retard on geist and 'somehow' it was the only hero he didn't go 0-9 on.
>>500092976its more likely to cause the haze player to shit their diaper
Every single game since patch I've been the worst player in the game. I hate myself. This isnt fun.
>someone tbags randomly>they commend me after the matchuh ok...
>>500093334Just a bit of friendly banter bro.
>>500092651I believe it, the game doesn't seem to treat them any different from real matches
>feed like a useless piece of shit>ask my team to report me for griefing>comms banned for a month
>>500093334slapping my balls on your chin is just my way of saying nice play bro
>>500093334I'm just crouch spamming to dodge headshots while i pick up that soul bounty
>>500092976>Cheaper>Much much longer duration 7s vs 3.5 sec>Useful against most characters rather than just hazeYou only buy metal skin only if haze get online and be a real threat in the late game. You can easily destroy haze with return fire before that point
>can't spectate customs mid-gamethis seems like an oversight.
>>500093334>lash player gets solo killed>boosts back to their walker to ult me into it and kill me, tbags my corpse>I boost back and kill him, tbag his corpse, he dcswhy is it always the faggots who are the most fragile
>>500093758Because tbagging someone and being disrespectful is generally a sign that the person doing it was already mad.
>>500093483>get comm bannedand then people will complain about match quality because the people who actively comm are literally being removed from the matchmaking pool by blyats being asked to show upto fights
>>500093890Just stop being European and you won't have to play with cyka's.
>>500092976>1v1 wraith>she ults me>activate return fire right before the ult lifts me>starts magdumping and suddenly she's half health and starts shitting herself and stops attacking>catch up to her and kill herReturn Fire is pretty good yea.
>we're 50k+ ahead and pushing their base>some mic fag commands everyone to back off after getting 1 shrine instead of running them over, extending the match by like 10 minuteswhy
>>500094035>speak english>get banned
>>500094117>after getting 1 shrinethis isn't even worth doing anymore you need both or it was fucking pointless to begin with. they fall over so quick you might as well just sit there for an additional 5 seconds and mag dump it as a team to secure a flex.
nice shuffle fucking retards
>>500094035If you marry me I'll come move to America. I'll cook you food and be your support bitch.
>>500093674You can you just need match id
>>500094592how big is your penis?
>>500094704I meant from the lobby screen.
>>500094735Probably like four inches hard.
>>500094775Amber wins no contest
>>500094592Uhh, you need to be a girl for that....
>>500094790that doesn't matter. what nationality so I know what kind of food? if youre british fuck off
>>500094790sorry anon but you'll never find a good husband with a cock that smallit would be too much like having sex with a w*man
>>500084807Braindead character that's very easy to build into an undying punch machine.
>>500094882
>>500093334there's no taunts so its all people can do
How viable is slowing bullets/silencer and other slow active items when you struggle to aim a bit?
>>500094896Ireland. You're getting potatos forever.
Whats the matchid for inhouse rn?
>>500095089I like picking slow bullets because it does help secure picks on enemies trying to flee. Very viable
yall some dick heads LMAO yall should have reset like i wanted to that team was clearly unfair af
heads up if 3 people sit in one lane things need to happen elsewhere on the map.
>vindictard rage quits the inhouse
>>500095679brother i can understand why all the best players were on one team
who shuffled last game?
WHO THE FUCKED SHUFFLED THAT WAS A GOOD LINE UP YOU RETARD
this happens every time you retards put an inhouse together, rofl
>>500095089its goodespecially versus people who refuse to buy upgraded boots
inhouse theme
anyone got post game stats of inhouse game?
>>500095976why would anyone care about stats in a complete stomp you fucking troglodyte
>>500096124just wanted to see who was the most worthless on blue team
>>500095198guiness, whiskey and taters it is
>>500094880>the host """"""RANDOMLY""""" gets all the best players into his teamHmmmmmm...
>>500094775I've played with bison before, he's a feeding little cunt.
>pick viscuous>go gun build>forgot i cant aim>do zero damage>loseoops
Shallow god punches people away after hook. Worst bebop I've seen in my life
>>500097108He can play good when he locks inT. Not bison
>People abusing broken shit that's inevitably going to get nerfed in ranked>Can't learn anything honest like Warden 6 Man Ult or Abrams Tank The Entire Team in peace Why even play?
What compels someone to build Tesla on Seven THOUGH
>>500097773lightning guy = lightning item
>>500097773FREE TESLA???????????
>>500095858upgraded boots are literally worse then normal boots, you're paying 1250 for>1.1 regular move speed>0.5 regen>3% base health>75 hp>-4% weapon damage because for some reason enduring speed doesn't have this but sprint boots doesthe anti slowing resist is a fucking meme, just buy superior stamina or an item that actively stops people from wanting to shot you or something that lets you kill them instead, it barely makes a difference and now you can get a gun item for 20% slow resist instead if kelvin is really making you depressed
>>500097773its gret synergy w his 3 and entire itemization path
>>500097773it is to seven as toxic bullets is to inferniggus
>>500098031it has no synergy with his 3 though?he has free tesla on his 3therefore he doesn't need to spend an item slot on tesla?what the fuck
>>500097773this >>500097852it simply feels rightimagine not building mjolnir on zeus
>get stunned by abrams in lane>hold F>get punched>time F>parry comes out, he punches through itis this just impossible unless both players have great ping
that match atleast felt more balanced
>tilt Yamato in lane by going 2-2>she holds W at me for the rest of the match, even letting her base die>Mirage DC 7 minute before the end of the game>he still has highest kills>we win 5v6>Oracle lobby btwIs this what I have to look forward to in Oracle?
>had the 1/8 and 1/11 geist and mcginnis on my team>"this looks balanced"
FUCKING NIGGER PARADOX GRENADES THAT SLOW YOU FOR 8000000% DIE DIE DIE
>>500099287At first. Then it became a stomp because someone kept feeding. No name just someone…
>>500099329not my fault that everyone died in fucking team fights OR DIDNT JOIN THEM AT ALL
>>500099303>tripfag is an archon playerAHAHAHHHAHA KEK
>>500099483this is not new information
That's enough inhouses for today...
>>500099679Bug shaker is here its time to feed and seed
R8SS2NEVER ENOUGH INHOUSESJOIN JOIN JOIN2 MORE AND YOU WIN A PRIZE
>>500099483>retard believed the name that he's eternus 2lol
>>500099329does anyone have the id for this game?
>retards haven't filtered tripniggersguh?
>>500098429fire rate
so is there any point of playing when mcginnis exist currently? it's actually impossible to beat the turrets
>>500100396it's GG the second she gets echo shard, you just can't beat turret and heal spam
>>500100396>make turrets immune to spirit>mcshittis stacks all three turrets ontop of eachother behind a cornner>if you try to kill the turrets she uses her wall and instakills you with ult>Turrets scale off her health so they can have 1000 HP>healing ability to give even more healthwhat the fuck are they thinking
so how do i try to win this game
>>500100828first you need to not play Paradox in pisslow
>>500100828Hit towers lol 0 obj damage is nasty work
>>500091632stay obsessed fag
>>500084707i had 2.8k hours on tf2 but i was never THAT good on it, always been a casualfag and arguably still am even in deadlockt. phantom IV
>>500100828>0 obj damage>highest souls in the team>shit kdaKek you griefed your team by soaking up all that farm and doing nothing with it
>>500099035Valve has literally never seen proper netcode in their life, much less written it
>Player count plummets>Bad balancing>Devs playing sim city in every patch>Matches take forever to start>Placeholder models everywhere>New gimmicky gamemode for broken heroesJust shut it down and wait until riot and blizzard release a better looking game with sovl designs.
>sovl designs>kpop gookslop
>>500102235low IQ post
>>500101480krill is monkeshiv is monkegame is monke
>>500085635Diamond wasn't a rank in Season 1 you liar.
>>500102235this is going to be riot deadlock its going to be a 1for1 copy expect you wont have denies most of the items will be for statsgame will be even more snowball heavyno possible comebackssurrender button at 10-15 mins
>>500102881>gooner anime designssign me the fuck up
>>500102235>IT'S TOTALLY FAILING JUST SHUT IT DOWN NOW H-HAHA>DON'T BELIEVE YOUR EYES AND EARShow much do you get paid to post here shill-kun? i truly don't believe anyone genuinely likes riot or blizzard
please stop picking mcginnis its so unfun
It's a good thing we didnt shuffle, otherwise the teams could've been fair, nobody wants that
>soul has 16 deaths now do you fuckers believe me
getting real tired of fighting this decay + crow improved reach vindicta in the inhouse.lol i gethit once + decay 81% of my health is gone and I have 0 vamp now
Was totally mcginnis fault not going 2:16 and 0:10
Clique on the left, threadchads on the right.
I will NEVER buy an active item
>>500103814unfair teams lmao tell celi to go to the other side
>>500103895based retard
>>500100396you just play paradox, grenade, wall and carbine all cuck her nests really hard
>>500103930i cant bro niggas shuffle and then im stuck on whatever side i end up on after 18 shuffles
>>500103930Shallow Fraud wants to get carried by celi every time
R8SS2We need two eternus+ people for inhouse lobby
>>500103814I literally tell them to shuffle every match. Regardless of it being balanced, random means it's at least fair. I never choose teams based on who's on them because I want it to be shuffled anyways
>>500104012>Do spirit damage against turrets that have 80% spirit resistsAny other excellent ideas?
>>5001040
>>500104105the turrets have 80% spirit resist, but miku doesn't. grenade is a stacking damage amp so if you're actually just struggling against turrets she randomly placed somehow you m1 them with big bonus damage while being completely untouched because wall makes the braindead turrets a non threatif miku is there, she has to either leave her nest or eat 40% carbine to the head
Please add Original in addition to Billy of "not allowed to play Miku" category. Fucking faggots.
>>500104024I don't want to be on any particular person's team though, I want it 100% random
>>500104372Too bad. She maxed out heal and tanked it for free, put a wall up before you could swap (but that swap would have killed you because you just teleported into 6 turrets.)
>>500104567This dude doesnt play the game
INHOUSE INHOUSE INHOUSER8SS2 R8SS2 R8SS2 R8SS2JOIN WHILE YOU CAN 11/12PHANTOM PLAYERS NEEDED
no more mcguiness .... please....
>>500104547lol its fine he won't play her again
TASTE THE WRRRATH OF THE DJIN!!!
>>500104547never seen the warcraft dork play miku yet
i brool to hard as lash and always forget to farmmaxx
>see kelvin on lane next to me>I initiate on vindicta taking 80% of her life>Kelvin has wandered off sightseeing>I have to back off, vindicta just walks away>5 seconds later kelvin comes back to said lane and feeds said vindicta and lashYep, at that point i knew it was over
>>500104567>before you could swap (but that swap would have killed you because you just teleported into 6 turrets.)yeah which is why I didn't mention swap anywhere in my post & mentioned the pretty obvious ways paradox 123 are annoying for miku to deal with you weirdo. die angry
>>500104771he just rats every time he plays the inhouse
Need one more for inhouseR8SS2 Initiate-alchemist players welcome
Gonna make coffee rq, ill.sit on spectatoesT. Thug shaker
I don't mind being shat on, but keep the thread clean. Tripping is for other generals. Didn't coordinate enough with Pocket in Lane and got run over hard by Miku+Kelvin tech. Was kind of funny how Vindicita tried to assassinate me through Seven Ult the first time, wish it worked the second one, also, going through the tele, seeing mo run into it, and saving his ass was a big highlight for me. You owe me one Moleman.
>>500104771double armor metal skin with 8 guns items and mystic slow verbatim those items every gameit is the gayest shit to challenge.
enough of stomping with lash its time to equal the game with ivy.....
>>500102812Wait, was that the one with the weird symbols? If so then I played until season 2. Sombra was the last hero I remember being added but when I finally uninstalled the game they had the mecha centaur lady in it.Wallriding with Lucio was fun as fuck, I hope they add something like that to Deadlock even though it would be broken
>>500105198Gun ivy is good rn howevervstveVery surprising amounts of damage she can do
whats a good pocket build to look up
higher avg rank = lower valve match rating?
What are some secretly amazing items for gunbebop?
>>500105170good advice - when you have lash on neighbour lane - don't walk with half hp on enemy lane half. it literally took me like 5 seconds to go on roof and oneshot your ass
>>500105390shadow weave + cursebecome temu wraith
anyone got stats on the last inhouse
Hear me outAlchemical fire bebop
>>500105623s'fine
>>500105365The valve match rating doesn't correspond exactly to mmr/ranks.
hurry the flip up
>>500105623Alchemical fire abrams is pretty nasty also
>seven farms the whole gamewho taught them to do this
>>500106234hat makes them do things
>>500087208392 phantom 4 soon to be eternus
Laning (and playing) vs Gray Talon feels like that "YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS LALALALALA" sketch in Borat. There has to be a way to easily counter such a hypersafe hero.>inb4 kill him/ward his jungleHe'll just hug his fucking tower and if it's 2v2 I can't just kill and deny every trooper
Alright Bebop bros how we faring since the big fuck you bombs update?
>queue unranked>retard feeds shiv and cries about it>lose>switch to ranked>retard feeds shiv and cries about it>lose
>>500106579>fotm bandwagoners leftthis is a good thing.
>>500106234some faggot youtuber made a video about buying magic carpet and farming jungle for 40 minutes while you lose all your walkers and now every seven has suffered permanent brain damage
>>500106946still a faggot unfortunately bro, I dont think valve can fix this with a ptach...
>>500107162i just checked and the seven in my last game didn't have magic carpethe just was busy splitpushing while we were losing an urn fightthe game became completely unwinnable after we lost that urn fight, too
>>500084707Titanfall 2 like 1000+ hours, 500 hours of DotA and an inordinate amount of League but that was 10 years ago.
>>500103814right is going to gen annihilated
>>500106234>>500107162I want to say this is an exaggeration but every time I am dead and spectate my teammate seven he's farming jungle and it pisses me off
>>500106234Nobody, the 1 is just so good for farming it's natural
>play mirage>buy richochet and sharp shooter>stand 50 meters away from the team fights and just spam bullets at random enemies>click 3 once after like 5 seconds>90% of the enemy team are 1 hit away from death and my team finishes them all offWhat are you even supposed to do against this?
>>500107901Spread out
Is there a sweet spot for long range/sharpshooter? The damage from distance doesnt feel any more powerful
>play character>character gets nerfed>play different character>character gets nerfedI dont even play people that everyone complains about but I'm just going to let you all know I'm playing Mo and Krill lately so sorry you're next on the chopping block
>>500107901I TAKE YOUR LIFE
>>500103775That's an ancient strat that that never got buffed and only got nerfed over time (but still somewhat solid anyway)
>>500108101for the love of god please play mcginnis
What's the trick to getting a lot of momentum after ziplining?
Has anything been changed with aiming the past two weeks...? I come back from a break and it feels fucking AWFUL to try and hit people now, for some reason
I like playing the green arm hag, who else should I try out?
>>500108375It's because you took a break, you're out of practice.
>>500108342drop off the line by pressing crouch instead of jump and you temporarily have zero air friction
>stun the fed enemy carry>win the gamesimple as. I love MO AND KRILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>500107329If you get a walker for an urn, especially the first few urn that have lower value, it's worth it. Stop inting into an uneven urn contest if you can just get a walker out of it.
>>500108448I've taken breaks from shooters before. It just kind of feels sloppy, floaty, and off.
>>500108571he didn't get a walker he was literally just farming the troopershe pushed right up to the walker and then just left
>>500097773am I the only one who buys items cause it fits the character archtype the most and not following some defacto meta guide or some shit
>>500108421>if you like spamming ignorant AOE'sIvy, Paradox>if you like being an unkillable piece of shitShiv
>>500092090Walk.
>>500107901BEHOLD OF THE POWER OF THE DJINN
Your wife....is my wife
>>500108840>>500108138>Valve adds Arab character>Is always loudly yelling>No other character is like thistop kek
>>500108952I TAKE YOUR WIFE
>>500108952YOUR WIFE WILL SUSTAIN ME
>>500108952I WONT LET YOU KEK ME
>>500108681how many characters can you do this with?>tesla bullets on seven>alchemical fire on warden>sprint boots on lash>magic carpet on mirage>phantom strike on vindicta
>>500108496>20 minutes into a game and I notice the enemy abrams is on an 8 kill streak>my team is having a tough time dealing with him in fights>I've somehow missed all the fights on that side of the map but I'm also fed as fuck on Mo from my own fights on my side>big teamfight happens that I'm finally there for>grab his ass>he doesn't have spirit armor at all
>>500109491shadow weave on haze
I want a hero that has a large oversized mallet as a primary weapon and their 1 is the hero holding it up in front of them and a big red boxing glove launches out of the mallet straight ahead and makes a boxing bell ding if it hits an enemy.Come on Valve hire me right now we can make this happen it'll be so funny.
>>500107059not really. any game after 12 am is only 100% sweat now
>>500108952why does he yell all the time
>>500110128All the herolabs games I've played are super casual with people on mic shooting the shit with each other. Feels like tf2 pubs from 2011.
Zzzzzz...
You guys were up a fair bit but your Kevlin suicided into us like 3 times lol.he chased us by himself on the rooftop?
What a gameI'm off to sleep though gg everyone
i like playing with the miku guy he has a positive attitude UNLIKE SOME OF YOU
>>500110213
hero labs party?
>>500110318our team doesnt know how to team fight
Miku guy ?More like micool
R8SS25 more!
>>500106946Doing goodBuilding hybridGanking a lot and splitpushing even more
out fucking skilled gun ivy is not great honestly but maybe my aim died after playing melee shit for too longthe first plan was entire team baiting you all on mid so i could rat against 1-2 dudes max. thank god we changed the plan quickly
>>500110497do duplicate heros work
Ngl i just farmed all game as paradox and had no impact :(The grenade build is also fucking stinky,
>>500110439idk your lash and vindicta stuck together for the most part
>>500110346stop talking about yourself faggot
>>500110439Every fight we took was a 2 v 4+ against heroes that are very good at stalling out fights so even if we do get a favorable fight it takes forever to kill them.
>>500110604>playing gun bebop>launch myself into 5 enemies and ultI don't know what I was on that game lmao.
>>500110573the plan changed into wait for lash to show in base to finish off midwhenever i see ivy type "i gonna rat" i know we're only a minute or two off winning the game>>500110619i was playing mirage that game though
>>500109017>Valve adds Black male character>he's the fastest runner and his ult is perfect for stealing rejuv>No other character like thisBased valve
Imagine playing a game and it's just 6 Mirage's on each team.
is lucky bullets a meme or is it useful now? its so expensive but its luck based which makes me cautious about buying it
>>500110573You dash slide too much, in the metro area you could just walk back without shooting at me and you would be fine
>>500110734just get lucky
>>500110346I appreciate you and your management of lanes, came in clutch.
>>500110573It wasn't a bait, we knew it was happening, it's just impossible to contest your team in the pit with all the stuns and knockups they have.
>>500110428start it up
>>500110723Lash's ult is better at stealing.
>>500110734Just damage test in sandbox. It gives the most damage for my build at least
>>5001107256 v 6 of all the same characters has the potential to be hilariousI want this to happen where we all play Lash. Deadlock more like Leapfrog
>>500110604grenade build is op bro you just need to buy cold front to farm faster and its really not that much of a farm-all-game build you only need improved reach and echo shard to rape
>>500110401>Kelvin is the thing Kek
>>500110401>pocket sucks>pocket is strongNeed another one like 3 tiers down that says >pocket sucks
anyone got stats for last inhouse
>>500110827also yamato
>>500110734It evens out to be 1.3x damage multiplier while also slowingIts >>500110905Its good against people who dont move
>>500111018Don't
>>500111018>>500111070Post them, I want to see them
>>500110774i was building into sliding with heroic aura and vampiric burst, my aim just got too rusty so i kinda sucked
>>500110734Lucky shot combos very well with any character that procs stuff to an extent. It's a staple on haze. Every "lucky shot" counts as another bullet, which affects any bullet procs so in Hazes case every lucky shot gives another stack of fixation allowing her to build it much more quickly. The damage is also just good, even if it's chance based you're getting nearly double damage every time it procs.
>>500108496>>500109637he can stop rejuvenator steals too he's pretty OP
>>500111018How do you even see that shit? It goes straight back to menu.
>>500110734All of the T4 gun items are great in the right place
>1 loss followed by 6 wins todaykinda boring but a good day I guess
R8SS23 slots left
>>500107901FACE THE WRATH!of the jinn
I just feel like I don't do enough damage as gunbop
>>500111696>I just feel like I don't do enough damage as gunbopthen play bumper bot.Bump-er, if you know what I'm sayin'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ILT7378No
>>500111696You only get bonus damage when you land your hook so otherwise you're very mediocre compared to other gun heroes
>>5001114062 more, get them while they're HOT!!!!!
>>500111063idk its been pretty consistently strong for me. you have to abuse the fact it doesnt respect line of sight and try to carbine people while they're stuck in it, keep track of who used their mobility skills in fights if out in the open, chuck them on teammates who are being focused, etc.it also makes your combo deadly to basically anybody
>>500111798>shillingDownvoted and reported the video, rekt lol
I have lost 8 of my last 10 ranked games. Every game had at least 2 people feeding 10 kills by midgame. I can't do this anymore bros.
all 'win button' ults should be replaced with more tactical abilities like what paradox and ivy havefuck hazefuck bebopfuck sevenfuck wraithfuck shivfuck yamatofuck warden
>>500112031stay in rotten wood mmr
Take the unranked pill
>>500112110>like paradox ult>literally deliver somebody into your team or deliver them through your silence into grenade rape, and gain 100% lifesteal to heal yourself back to full while doing it>not a "win button"alright man
>Miku and Calico turret rape
>>500112145Unranked has gotten so bad after ranked got introduced. Even on phantom you get more leavers, more seething, and it's just a bad time now.
>>500110734It's the best or 2nd best "pure" gun build T4 but most gun characters build hybrid nowadays so it just doesn't get bought until like 50+ min into the game, which makes it niche as the result. It gets relegated behind other core T4 like crippling headshot, leech, inhibitor, spiritual overflow, items that fit into hybrid gun much better.
>>500112031just split push if your team is animal
inhouse bros....
R8SS2need 3.
Need two more players for the inhouse.R8SS2
>>500112145unranked was fun before ranked, but now you get all the retards and parties on there it's like asking to get owned by coordinated stacks no thxanyone who wants fair good quality games plays solo ranked now. My friends already quit this game, it's not very fun for casuals...
>>500112196>paradox ult isn't a win button because she has to use all 3 of her other abilities firstmeanwhile 90% of haze and lash players afk in spawn until their ult is up so they can waddle into a team fight and press 4
>>500112413you know anon when a wraith ults you in order for it to be a win button she needs to use her other abilities too
>>500112413lash isn't raping teamfights with his ult unless the enemy team is either really fucking bad or already stunned by someone else
Sorry bros but I gotta go I have plans in 15 mins and was hoping we'd get enough people sooner. gl getting more!
>Shiv buffedHoly based.
>soul killed the inhousewow
>>500112413>tried to sneak in lash like we wouldnt noticesome is salty
had a update.W3X8HNeed all.
>>500112592I just left the lobby to update the game.Please don't tell me I caused a collapse.
NEW UPDATEhttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-27-2024-update.42492/
What drugs can I take to make me better at the game? I already take caffeine for focus and can't play without it at this point.
R8SS2the game had to update. We're stilll going strong!!!
>>500112684are initiate 3 subhumanbros welcome?
>>500111063>>500111967buy knockdown and combo it with carbine to keep them in the aoe
>>500112710Adderall
HAHA LOBBIES CRASH FOR NO FUCKING REASONVERY GOOD JOB VALVEH9PCB need 11 for custom lobby.
>>500112684The old Lobby is still up, we should just stick to that.R8SS2
This is bebop buff isnt it, you just dont get free stacks nowFuck that faggot hero I guess they wont be driveby bombing you anymore tho
>>500112706>McGinnis: Mini Turrets Spirit Resist reduced from 80% to 70%>McGinnis: Spectral Wall cooldown increased from 37s to 46s>McGinnis: Spectral Wall T2 cooldown improved from -14s to -23sOh that's literally nothing. Great.
>>500112706>All those bebop buffsWhatTheFuckWHAT ARE THEY DOING. THE NERF HIM THE REVERT SOME NERFS THEN GIVE SOME BUFFS/NERFS THEN BUFF HIM AGAINHoly fucking aids dude.
>>500112871use this >>500112878
>>500112710Adderall like most people in eternus takes
>>500112929>buff>literally a nerf
>>500112492the difference is that wraith and haze can lose a 1v1 but press 4 to instantly win. dynamo, paradox, viscous, ivy, and mo just press 4 to delay their death.I've never been in a fight with a dynamo who instantly turned it around with a single button press, but i've had countless shitter haze players lose hard but win anyways purely because win button
Custom lobbies keep crashing. Seem broke for now.
>>500112871>>500088730Sorry Billy, I did it to you again. We're here: R8SS2
>>500112706>mo and krill untouchedLMFAO
>ice path cooldown increased by 4 secondsFOR WHAT PURPOSE???
>>500112929The coin Yoshi flipped landed on heads today
>>500112830yeah i was liking it with knockdown too, but i was doing kd -> swap -> carbine to keep them in it since knockdown is a point & click stun
>>500112929It's a nerf bro. He actually has to kill you with the bomb for him to get stacks now.
>>500112929I'm glad, bomb felt pretty impotent last patch
>>500112886>>500112929It's funny how retarded /dlg/ is
>>500113031you need to update your game retard
>>500112706Hopefully bebop players can stfu now No vindicta nerfs guess I gotta wait till the next patch for that
>>500112706>turbo rebuff bepop, which was absolutely okay after the nerf>meanwhile seven who is utter dogshit currently and was mid before the harsh nerfs gets +10 ult DPS and nothing else
>>500113067because it's bullshit?
>>500112832>>500112967I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid and have a psychiatrist visit in about 2 weeks. What are the chances I can bullshit my way into getting an Adderal prescription?
- Bebop: Sticky Bomb stacks no longer decrease on death- Bebop: Sticky Bomb now gives stacks based on dying heroes hurt by Sticky Bomb damage with a 12 second buffer (previously anyone hit by the bomb would automatically grant stacks)- Bebop: Sticky Bomb damage per stack increased from 3% to 5%- Bebop: Sticky Bomb spirit power damage scaling increased from 0.9 to 1.2- Bebop: Sticky Bomb T1 improved from -7.5s to -8sWhy.
>>500113171its the most fun spell in the game and it does 0 damage, they gotta add icicles that fall from it or something before nerfing it
>>500113074>He actually has to kill you with the bomb for him to get stacks now.FUCKTHE BOMB DOES SO LITTLE DAMAGE THO
>>500113216You have ADHD, it wont be bullshit
>massive Bebop buffs AGAINholy shit the secret really is to just complain and whine
The balancing in this game is fucking hilarious. They literally just keep going back to what they have. How many times do you have to do that before you just admit you fucked up so tremendously that half of the cast is in need of concept-level reworks before the game even releases?
inhouse bros...we're so close....just 3 more people....pleaseR8SS2
>>500112878R8SS2R8SS2R8SS2Need three(3) more ENEMY gamers to join inhouse!
>>500113241because retards STILL weren't buying cleanser/E shift against it>wood mmrtry phantom/oracle.
>>500113241be happy they don't remove that nigger robot outright
>>500113156>yamato gets 5 seconds quicker ult cooldownfinally, buffs... haha..
>>500113216A good 95% chance of them giving it to youThat alone will boost you to ascendant if you are somewhat decent at the game
>>500113241bomb being better without stacks is goodalso previously the stacking was stupid and uninteractive
>bebop takenI turned 360 degrees and walked out of there
dota never had anywhere close to the number of reverted changes as deadlock already has
>>500113549Did you play dota when it was in alpha
>>500113549alpha
does this game have any furries or lolis
>>500113458Man his laser is so satisfying to use
>>500113458>rank: ARCHON IV
>>500113596yespooling and buyable second heroes were in the game and removed but not revertrd
>>500113542yeah watching you try to play anything else is like a monkey trying to fuck a football.you and meepz should hold a competition for the title.
I just want tohook people why is the range so short it's like my cock
>>500113674I only wish it didn't fall off so hard lategame, but it has its uses>>500113690Yes, the creme of the crop for people with lives
>>500113659There's a coin that's someone at Valve is gonna flip for that someday.>>500113043We NEED one(1) more gamer for inhouse R8SS2
https://streamable.com/12v2hwinsane lash rejuv steal
based on the left, cringe on the right.
>>500113707Don't know why you have to be severe about it. I do okay as Geist if allowed.
>>500113765Imo his lasers best use is picking off people who are already fleeing fights rather than initiating it to start a fight. Ive gotten so many picks in the laning phase just grabbing people running to hide behind guardian
>everyone saying bebop got huge buffsCan you ESLs even read?
>>500113835ARABIAN NIGHTS WITH MIRAGE, NASHALA, MOHAMMED AND KAREEM
can you spectards just join and start jesus
>>500113436fuck yeah i have addictive personality but fuck it im going pro
>>500113835Tell one of meppz or banyti to move to the other side to actually make it balanced
>>500107901didnt happeni know because i spent a long time in sandbox minmaxing mark damage and fully stacked mark with 40k of items, tesla bullets + escalating to stack damage amp vs a target with 0 spirit resist doesnt even do half health, and it takes you like 12 seconds of uninterrupted sightlines to even get that many stacks, which you aren't going to get vs remotely competent playersthe only time i do well as mirage, or ever see anyone else do well as mirage is building very gun centric (at least at phantom 5)
two people just sitting in the spectator seat when we need just one more to play. awesome.
>>500113989i have food in the oven BITCH!
>>500114053I don't want to play. I might just leave anyways after 10 minutes because it's 2am
>>500114053shallow god is a one trick faggot that'll refuse to play and cry like a baby until he's allowed to play bepopidk about rex's deal
>>500113995Lmao you might not want to take Addy if you have a addictive personality
>>500113902That's when its best, running to the next lane over at 6-7 minutes and nuking them with galick gun is basically a guaranteed kill or threeMystic slow does make it a bit better later in the game where you can shine down the spotlight of "kill this guy he can't move" for your teammates
>>500113946Its a massive buff over the "lose 20% of stacks" thing, but its hard to tell if 5% bombs but only on kills is going to be a buff or a nerf for most bebops.If you echo shard, thats still 10% per kill, maybe even 15% if you get a third bomb off. But if you fumble the kill, thats 0% now which will fucking suck.
>>500113835this nigga photoshopped mingebag
>>500114105>yuronogno one wanted you anyways
>>500114156Stop obsessing
fine but im going afk to take my food out 5 minutes in
if no one joins in 5 minutes i'm fucking off
>>500114156Who is it from the inhouse that calls out anyone who has a main as a "one trick"?
>>500113701>buyable second heroeswhat the fuck
NEO2000 READY UP. PLEASE.
>>500114214Also consider that the bombs scale better with spirit now, so that's 5% of a higher number than before
neo afk?
How much do your calibration games affect your final placement? I don't want to end up like 4 ranks lower because of weekend only mongs.
I don't have all night to sit in a lobby and do nothing get it together people
PICK A HERO COOMER
>>500114364saga
We literally have 10 people who have been waiting for like 30 minutes holy fuck this is so retarded
>>500114415your normal game MMR is the heaviest factor in your rank seeding.people have lost ALL of their "placement" matches and still ranked stupidly high.
>>500114364i don't mind people having mains, but if you refuse to play anyone besides your main then you are a one trick faggot
>hero lab>every just leaves because they didnt get the shitty new heroHope they get permabanned
what the heck is going on guys?!?!?!?R8SS2 R8SS2 R8SS2
13 people and somehow can't get a game going you guys are retarded
>>500114648They went to play hero labs
remember shitterbros, nobody else has as much sway over game's outcome as you. not even the best carry can determine a win or loss as cleanly as you can from minute 0
>>500114405>>500114412shit my bad I forgot I joined that shit like 30 minutes ago
Thanks for coming in and sitting afk for 10 minutes when we had a game ready Neo. Fucking retard.
>>500113386>buying 3k item to counter him
>>500114712literally had 14 people in the lobby at one point and rex decided to just not fucking play but all of a sudden he's in now. If this dumb fucking nigger would've just joined earlier we would all be playing
>>500114802except neo was afk so it wouldnt have started anyway lmao
>>500114648R8SS2 R8SS2 R8SS2We need two more jimmedy christmas I beg of you.
You know what, nah, this isn't worth it. I've been in the lobby since the last match was played. I've been waiting for an hour at this point. The result is going to be a completely mediocre unfun match, win or lose.
I give up.Hero labs party:0TQPB
Fuck it I'll just solo queueStop being so retarded all the time
Dead game....Anyone make a hero labs lobby so i can join as eurofag
Yeah sorry guys. Moving forward if you sit in spectator spot or are just afk longer then minute or two I'm just kicking you from hereon out. This is fucking ridiculous, you're just holding up the other 11 fucking people who want to play. That's absurd.
>>500114537>>500114156I don't know what your beef is with me bro but I'm pretty sure I've mainly played Geist in the inhouse because because bebop is always taken. I was gonna go to sleep but then there was a big bebop patch. I'm sorry I killed you or whatever but you shouldn't lie about others.
>>5001150900TQPBI'll start in five minutes or when we're full.
>>500115151i wanted to spectate why is that such a problem
>>500112706>slight nerf to paradox bomb range scaling >but it still hits people through wallsoh thank god
Nobody complains about me maining paradox because im so mediocre at it
>>500114798>bebop spends 15k+ juicing bombs that are countered by 3k items>this is a bad play on the 3k buyer
>>500112706>Vindicta:Good.
>>500112710Nicotine pouches, I like Rogue brand.Adderall.Cocaine, but you will always do too much and become even worse.
>>500115174>meppz finally turns up for the inhouse>someone starts mass seething about shallow godhmmmmmmm, the puzzle pieces are falling into place
>>500093084Geist is objectively the weakest character in the game by far. Nothing in her kit is good.
>>500112706Mo and Krill unchanged and Miku's nerf are manageable.Yep,, we stay winning.
>>500114156shallow god is one of the few people i like :)
>>500093084lol
So is Yamato actually good or not? Enemy just had one that shat on us 18/4
>>500116038She's the worst hero in the game
>>500116038/dlg/ think she is the worst character in the game for months but almost all tournament scrim matches have a Yamato on one team for months now.
this game's unplayable with even a bit of lag
>>500116038Buildlets call her bad
>>500116038she snowballs really hard if she gets fed early but is garbage otherwise>>500116226she gets picked a lot in tournaments but also loses most of the matches she gets picked in
I try to fit as many actives into my build as fast as possible but I suspect it's not always a good idea, I just hate not having buttons to press, does anyone else feel this way?
>>500114372pre 5.84 dota was pretty fun
>>500116807actives are always amazing. you're doing the right thing
>>500116807I get the feeling that you're actively throwing if your build doesn't have 4x actives by 10k souls. It's just flat-out more abilities, it's insane.
>>500116940nah infuser / rescue beam / healing rite are bad
>>500116807my go-to solo queue strat is buying a bunch of purple disable items and just spamming them all on one faggot
>switch from my own homebrewed build to the trending meta build>instantly dominatestupid
>>500115240Did you guys already go once or did you just forget to go after 5 minutes
>>500112706>that Seven buffSeven was already pretty dogshit as a whole, people just bitched about him still being able to stealth win games because his balls autoshoved lanes and let him gigafarm to the point that it wouldn't matter because he could contribute by showing up for 1 second and dipping out, they might as well just rebuff the ulti to its pre-nerf levels because people actually know how to play around it now and shitters won't be crying because they tried to facetank it
>>500117209Active items generally have worse stats than passive items. You're wasting money if you buy actives that don't directly enable your build or counter the enemy.
>>500117734I've become really jaded about online games because so much of it is about stupid tricks. I don't like playing games where I can win 10% more often by following the meta build, or games where you can like shimmy or bunny hop to dodge the enemy more easily. I think it's stupid and meaningless busywork - either make your game so that moving in a direction expands your hitbox, so sitting still is the most evasive state, or make the character attempt to dodge shots automatically without my input. I don't feel like learning a habit of twitching back and forth like a retard.Predictably, I don't like Deadlock very much.
>>500117745If anyone else likes, we can go again for hero labs:0TQPB0TQPB0TQPB
>>500116038I feel like Yamato peaks mid game, when a lot of people are still filling their build with core items. As soon as that happens and people start buying the counter items, she starts to drop off quick.
magician is kinda wonky but fun
>>500117980>the game should play itself for me
>>500118053I'll start at 10:45 EST or when we're full this time.0TQPB0TQPB
>>500118174He deals nutty amounts of damage with his meme double at early and mid game, if you can hold.your targets still
>>500116940What are your fav 1.25k-3k actives?For me it's:1.25k: Fleetfoot, Divine barrier, Cold front, Slowing Hex3k: Majestic leap, Rescue Beam, Knockdown, Although it depends on the hero and matchup ofc, but I don't use return fire nor withering whip all that much
another patchanother Kelvin nerf
>>500115386im just quoting retards on this general that say that. >using 3k souls to completely shutdown someonesounds like a good deal
>>500118265I don't care whether the game plays itself for me, or if other people aren't allowed to play the game. Either one is fine. I just don't want to be forced to play the game they do.
Just built Ivy as fire rate gun god with that vampire item.Gosh DAMN I love hearing her gun make that sound at max fire rate, also seeing your hp bar sky rocket with green is amazing.
>>500112706Dear fucking lord they touched Yamato but not Pocket? PLEASE BUFF POCKET
>>500085960Do we think that is Calicos final look or will she eventually be updated to match her profile pick?
>>500118659we are no longer allowed to disarm, headshot, heal, or move around the map, they will take 1 base stam from him next
>>500118621for 1.2ks, cold front feels good even if slowing hex is probably better in most scenarios. divine barrier is also great for its versatilityfor 3ks, i love majestic leap on almost every hero. being able to go to an adjacent lane near-instantly is so great. and it's just cool to jump around
I have a fix for bebop - change his ult to a giant bomb you place on an enemy that the longer you fire at it, the bigger/more damaging it gets, and can be detonated by you at any time within 6 seconds.They are muted, silenced, disarmed, cannot be dispelled, and movement impaired (cannot roll but can still run away), so they can be forcibly moved by stuff like lash bomb or bebop punch.Super Bomb
>>500118621Cold Front, Decay, Glyph, Knockdown, Leap Warp, EshiftIn that order. You can guess my main easily.
>>500119207>profile pickThat's just a leftover from Neon Prime.
>>500119573>6 second curse that can't be dispelledyeah great idea
Alright, what the fuck is up with Melee Shiv? Makes no sense to me
>>500119573change his bomb to this
>>500119712We sure its bot the other way around? Do we know this?
>>500119972Same thing as Abrams. If he gets parried he just tanks it and punches again.
>- Yamato: Shadow Transformation cooldown reduced from 90s to 85sHOLY SHIT HUGEAMAZINGGAME CHANGINGfuck off yoshi
>>500120101Nah, not even Abrams is on this level of tanking and damage dealing, there's clearly more to it
>>500120320lmao abrams is no longer the tankiest hero in the game shiv mo and krill and a few other can take that spot after icefrog/valve keeps nerfing him but one day we will actually get a buff we deserve shoulder charge disarm i am pushing that narrative
The abundance of bullet resist is good because gun based heros are for faggots
>>500119573>Basically just stun a player for 6 seconds. Why even shoot the bomb when you can shoot the player
>>500119972ult gives more damage to everything including melee with full rage, melee builds up rage fast (worse since the nerf) and Shiv doesn't really give that much of a fuck about being parried because he's still most likely gonna be able to tank whatever you hit him with, all this plus you are essentially always fighting against him with -20% of your max health whenever his ult is up
When will icefraud stop nerfing my nigga? And for what reason?
>>500120851yeah i fucking hate having sevens on my team, they dont realize that hero is hot dogshit and just brool (feed)
next time im getting completely shit on, maybe i'll just sell all my damage items and buy full tank and actives
>>500120851He was too cool and left too much trauma in the early daysReally they should just fucking roll back to June balance man, what the fuck are they DOING
>those stickybomb changesI can already hear my buddy complaining and he's at work at the moment lmao
>>500119573Change his heavy melee to his uppercut and swap it to a passive that buffs itKeep bomb stacking as it currently is in the latest change, make it so a heavy melee from bepop instantly pops the bomb and causes an AOE stun if a bomb is popped
>wraith just runs around with her hands in her pockets all the timeholy autism
what the fuck is holiday's kit even supposed to be
>>500122256trickshot cowboy(female)
>>500122256batrider
hero labs kinda sucks
Why do I keep fucking losing?My team will be even or ahead for most of the match and then we lose anyway.My winrate is down to 50% on the dot for the first time ever...
>>500122567its good to practice other heroes on since it doesn't count stats or win loss.kinda fucked if you fight slark though.
>>500122567yeah cause i keep getting noobs i cant really gauge how good slork really is literally got 30 kills 1 game and im not even good at aiming
>>500122256Some trick shot meme shot with bat rider ult. There's so much cool shit you could do for a old western hero but uh, they seemingly have zero idea how to balance or develop a majority of the cast so jury's out on that one.
I've actually every single fucking ranked game today what the fuck.9 times out of 10 enemy team had GT and vindicta and when I finally get them they fucking lose lane and go like 3/5 SOMEHOWEvery fucking game it's 3-4 people going hard negative and their laners are diving MY lane 3 minutes in how the fuck am I supposed to carry this?
>>500122256literally batrider except with a 3 that is an absolute magnet for bots, cheating faggots, and third-worlders
>>500123053Her 3 is really not that good.
>>500120068Yes.
Wrecker is really cool and I like the almost artillery mage feeling but I'd like it if her 2 gave her stacking ammo as well as fire rate.
>>500114216>aruru avatarsex
https://streamable.com/9u3u82https://streamable.com/f7lu2dOk holliday is fun, it just doesnt compare to fucking slork m1 + w at you, After i lassooed his ass 3 times he was fucking upset at me real badBombs are cool and all but her 3 basically shoehorns you into playing her as a gunfaggot.But with headhunter, mystic shot the midgame burst is pretty nutty
>>500123202I didn't say it was good just that it's a magnet for cheating
>>500120851>heh let’s change his base ult DPS by +10>now this is balanceIceFraud’s the name
>>500123659LMAO people still dont realize you can use her ulti then zipline while still holding on to the target
post your contributions to making this game better
>>500123993ive told them to remove the urn because it's unbalanceable and unfun in july
>>500123976Well, i didnt know that, but dont expect it to stay that way, cause i doubt its intended
>Build into healing to help your yamato lane>She leaves to base or hides behind a wall after any damage>Steals kills from everyone else>Flaunts her KDA any time anyone says she's being an idiotI see Haze mains have moved on to Yamato
>>500115574retard
>lose ranked game>win unranked game>lose ranked game>win unranked gamewhatever
>>500124906You need to stay in one lane. Unranked is loose meme shit, Ranked is srs bsns
>>500123993I made a post saying how disappointing seven’s ultimate is, and now IceFraud buffs it bit by bit. It’s still lackluster and bad changes for the character overall; it needs a complete rework
>>500117279Rescue beam seems pretty good between the percent-based healing and the tether.
>>500122795>>500122894>run into slork on the enemy team>ungabunga nigga does half health per second at all points of the game>slork on team>instawinThat character seems to kind of take over games, insane DPS output without his 1 up
>>500115574are geist downplayers as bad as paradox downplayers?
>>500124906Fun fact: They're the same thing.Your MMR isn't changed because you pick 'ranked' or 'normal'. It's the same number.
mutliple tip tier eternus players put Geist in S tieryou get mystic reach 20 seconds into the game and throw jdams in lane lol its obnoxiousher ult is her weakest part
>>500125006>Ranked is srs bsnstell that to my fucktarded haze geeking out on pot all game. oracle "above average" game btw
>>500125223Lol the trick is underplaying your hero so it gets buffed doing the same thing with Abrams now his shoulder charge needs to disarm
>>500125406She's good, but mostly a lane terrorist and pusher not a great fighter. I don't think S tier is wrong but people notice the killers and tanks more.
>>500125006Both are the same shit truth be told you gain and lose mmr in both
>>500123976>>500124428you can also icepath while using zipline
>>500125396really, that's pretty odd. in dota 2 you have two different MMRs, a hidden unranked one and a visible ranked one, i figured deadcock worked the same
Which hero do I main if I want to impress gamer girls
>>500125396>im demoting myself to wood by running meme builds on unrankedNo one told me...
>>500125762the uninstall wizard
>>500125762mcginnis
>>500123976all it takes is someone to shoot you for 1 damage and you just fall down and get stunned for 4 seconds, absolutely retarded move.
>>500125762the lash
>>500125762women cannot resist The Lash
>>500125832lmao we been trying to tell you niggas since the start "ranked" is just solo queue and to get a badge for that hidden number that's why you do placements every week>>500125885of course you dont do it when people are around but if you are against one or two people when maxed out you might as well use the tech to bring them behind the walker and kill them
>>500125762Haze and Infernus. They most likely main Ivy and she can be your healslut
>>500126098there are no placements dumbass
>>500123028Meta chaser are terrible, especially when they pick up a character because they think it's meta.I had a gray talon who play like he's fucking Abram. He literally Frontline every fight, flying toward every red icon in the map and instantly get blown up because he's always by far lowest soul in the whole lobby.
>>500126246Of course but you have to play 7 "ranked" games a week to keep your badge visible that's what I mean by placements
Alright, you've been the executive chair for a day. (You) can delete, change, or completely rework ONE (1) character.Who are you picking?Bonus points if you outline what you change.For me, I would change McGinnis>Delete the turrets, turn them into timed charges. Bombs you can plant and detonate on command/some kind of mine>Scrap wall entirely - change it into a small foxhole type thing that gives firerate bonus and bullet resist bonus.Make her feel more like a sapper than TF2 Engie lite. Probably should change her gun too but can't think of anything
>>500126423I would get rid of the entire cast and replace them with the Hero Labs heroes.
>>500126423replace vindicta's ult with something that isn't retarded
>>500126423I would switch infernus to his neon prime model to laugh at everyone's seethe
>>500126423Seven. His cool design is utterly wasted on how boring his kit is. Make him more movement focused (since his whole thing is lightning, and his movement already scales with spirit) something sort of like Lash but with horizontal velocity as opposed to height.>1 creates an AOE around him that deals damage and scales with his current velocity. It can only hit each target once, but deals large damage. Upgrades eventually make its range increase with spirit scaling as well.>2 is a short-range blink teleport that conserves momentum and adds some more velocity on exit. Allows him to change direction easily. Upgrades give it higher range, lower cooldown, and then an aoe damage and slow around the exit point.>3 is a channeled thunderstrike. Stuns and damages in an AOE around the target point. Basically his current 2 but you can aim it instead of it being target-based.>4 is his current ult but with less damage and a shorter duration. When it ends, it sends him flying in whatever direction you're looking at huge speeds. The longer you stay still in your 4, the greater your velocity will be when you finish it.
>>500126423>Delete the turretsI will fucking kill you.
gray talon has:>spirit scaling bullet damage>spirit scaling movespeed>4 base stamina>unmolested scaling on all his abilitiesanyone who has half a brain would pick him because he's so overloaded right now and if you lose with him you absolutely deserve your mud tier mmr
why nerf pulse grenade already, did anyone even get the chance to "abuse" it, was it even good
>>500123993Changing Sprint Boots to build into Enduring SpeedMeleeing the Urn runner drops UrnQuicksilver nerfs and buffs to other reload-centric itemsSuggesting Wraith's Royal Flush be changed into Card Trick
>>500126423MirageHe is uniquely bad in that he has a button that is completely useless if he doesn't build into it. His 3 needs to get changed into some kind of nuke that does high spirit damage or a steroid
>>500126972>Suggesting Wraith's Royal Flush be changed into Card TrickI kneel............................
>>500126972>Suggesting Wraith's Royal Flush be changed into Card Trick
>>500126939>did anyone even get the chance to "abuse" itNo.>was it even goodNo. The easiest lava ability to just dodge out of. Doesn't even have charges so echo shard is mandatory.Walldox is unironically stronger and comes online faster.
>>500127124That shit was REALLY bad, dudeRoyal Flush was hands down the worst ability in the game, it was laughably badEven Mirage Scarabs on release were like 4x better
>>500127394it wasn't just a name change? what did royal flush do?
>>500126246you dont know that dumbass, all they said is you have a base mmr
>>500127479>you dont know that dumbassyes i do because all of your ranked matches for the week are calculated together on tuesdayif they were placement matches they would behave differently from regular matches
my main, mcginnis, is too strong. icefraud please make her shit so i can play her again
>>500127448It threw 4 super low damage cards to random nearby targets in melee distance.Forced a glass cannon hero to get into melee range. And even when you'd get in range, it hit creeps 90% of the time instead of the hero you were fighting. And when you actually did Telekinesis a target, it was completely pointless because it was Spirit Damage on a hero with no reason at all to build Spirit damage yet.You couldn't rely on this ability to do fucking anything.
>>500127281that was my impression too, it feels like they saw a funny clip of the grenade getting huge with 5k of items and thought that would be a problem even though it does 0 damageyou're basically wasting slots to spec into it so why not leave it a little ridiculousit's not as if ivy can't drop 4 kudzus the size of uranus and them actually do damage
>>500127641yes and also please make my main (geist) stronger
>>500127063>that does high spirit damage>you naturally build into the ability to stack the multiplier pretty fast>the ability is a super low CD>it chunks constantly and can be used to execute around wallsThe real redpill is to use it and then use the reveal to teleport to them
Wraith 1 is one of the coolest abilities in the game and it makes me sad that the optimal way to use it is to farm 4 cards and dump them in the face of an enemy who can't move. I live for those cheeky card trickshots in lane phase
>>500128291Wraith should have a way to dumbfire the card in a straight line too honestly
>>500128335Post that on the forums. It could just be alt cast.
>>500128335personally I'd like if my cursor being within 2 miles of a creep didn't make the card careen towards it instead of where my cursor is
i've gotten mirage as my lane partner 3 times today and every single time it felt like i was 1v2ing.isn't this guy supposed to be an absolute menace in lane?
>>500126423I would hardware and IP ban anyone who's played Shiv.
>>500128457It's mostly just his gun and heal. His gun is retarded for poke, and he heals nicely so he just trades against you forever.But if he wants to actually go in he's kinda shit, same for if they go in, he just tornadoes out and watchesIn 1v1 he's a proper sandnigger terrorist, but in duos he needs another poke heavy teammate, and against someone with a good heal like Dynamo he just kind of jerks off uselessly
>>500123993High Velocity Mags were my ideaAnd Kelvin beam last hitting souls, but I've heard multiple people suggested that too
>>500128732>And Kelvin beam last hitting soulsYou fucking monster.
I didn't bother giving any feedback for this game but the devs listened to a lot of my feedback for Rotwood
>>500126423Vindicta has 0 place in a game like this
Heavy melee should cancel flight. This would make Lash a hard counter for Vindicta since he wouldn't be dependent on his ult to knock her out of the sky.
Would you say it's more important to stick to your build for the laning phase or should you prioritize buying items to directly counter whatever character you're facing?
>>500117367how did you learn how to decay yourself
>>500129138Lash is already a hard counter on Vindicta for 2/3 of the match
game is easy
>>500129149I would probably lose less if I bought Reactive Barrier in lane against the heroes who have strong CC.
>>500129221Only when his ult is up.
>>500129228LMAO smurfing thats some nasty work brother
>>500126572Literally all they need to do is remove the retarded damage bonus from the base ult and put into her T2 or something, so she doesn't just immediately ruin lane phase.>>500126736Very cool anon, I do like the idea of a horizontal lash.>>500128497Based
Is escalating exposure still worth buying?At least on Kelvin it was a massive powerspike, but it feels like does nothing now.
What's your Lash skill order?
>>500129632it does nothing because spirit builds are trash compared to gun buildson 100% of heroes you would rather buy sharpshooter instead of improved reach
>>500129632idk it feels kinda weak kinda feels we are moving back into a gun meta
>>500129861>>500129716Yeah I 100% agree. Only thing is I build into gun on Kelvin I feel like the beam is almost unusable except to slow for your team
How do you even itemize against Shiv? What is good against him? Even after the nerf he still does the same bullshit where he just facetanks your entire team with only 10k souls in the bank and punches everyone to death. He's so fucking tanky, it's ridiculous
>two games in a row where my allies put us 20k souls behind by the end of laning phaseTwo hours of my life down the drain, thanks Icefrog. You know the Halloween event was today in Splatoon and in two hours of playing I played like 30 matches? And saw significant improvements in my play? I didn't learn anything about Deadlock in the past two hours.
>>500130082I don't think you can itemize against Shiv because there are no items that stop damage deferral. Since only Shiv has that mechanic, it's kind of hard to design an item that beats it but isn't completely useless if no one picked Shiv.If toxic bullets just ignored his passive that would be a nice start.
You know, honestly, after playing a few other characters, no other character gives me the same feeling of agency that Paradox gives. It's only when her ult is up, but no other character feels like i can directly impact the game quite like her, in any situation I can think of. Probably Lash would feel similar if I played him.
>>500130530This is probably why I switched to Lash after initially maining Paradox for my first 25 games. I just realized that I mostly use his ult the way I used Paradox's, too.
>>500130082You don't. His 3 is inherently broken, as it has been in literally every single game that's ever tried a similar mechanic. It will always either be too small to matter or so enormously powerful that it's insane. It's currently the latter.
I've lost 13 out of 15 ranked matches today.I had absolute fucking feeders every game, people picking mcginnis/haze/seven and literally going like 1/14/3 with 20k souls on a 33 minute game.How much does the "OH WHAT MATTERS IS YOUR PERSONAL PERFORMANCE GOY" meme actually matters because at this point I'm gonna be placed in piss low phantom.
>>500128732>Kelvin beam last hitting souls, thank you chad, makes laning alot easier since im a aimlet
>>500130794The main problem is that the mechanic is completely uninteractive. Shiv just gets to live forever unless your entire team coordinates to chainstun him, while every other tank in the game right now is soft countered by resistance shreds and healing reduction.
>>500114364There's literally nothing wrong with being a onetrick, actually.
>>500130942>piss low>phantomBro...>>500131083You're fucked once we get draft.
>>500131083there is like 5 people from this thread alone that can *only* play 1 character competently what the fuck are you talking about lol
>>500131113It is absolutely piss low my first match was fucking HIGH ASCENDANT/LOW ETERNANTI GOT ASS FUCKED GAME AFTER GAME AFTER GAME AFTER GAMENOTHING I DID MATTER I COULD HARD WIN LANE GANK TWO LANES NEXT TO ME AND WE WOULD STILL LOSE I COULD SURMOUNT A COME BACK AFTER STEALING MIDBOSS AND THEN MY TEAM FOR ZERO REASON DECIDES TO FIGHT 3V6 35 MINUTES INPHANTOMS ARE FUCKING DOGSHIT AND THE GAME IS EXPECTING ME TO CARRY THESE CREATURES GOING 2/8 ON MCGINNIS WITH 3K OBJECTIVE DAMAGE ON A 40 MINUTE GAME
>>500131113My main is low tier garbage so I'm safe
>>500131305>THESE CREATURES GOING 2/8 ON MCGINNIS WITH 3K OBJECTIVE DAMAGE ON A 40 MINUTE GAMEokay, that's pretty bad
>>500131113Not him but literally the only reason I'm a one trick is because all other heroes feel/look like shit and all the other heroes I'm interested on are in hero labs cage.
>>500131113>You're fucked once we get draftSo by 2028 at the earliest? I'll keep one tricking haze and you'll keep seething in the meantime.>>500131260I get screamed at whenever I decide to play someone else in inhouses, so why even bother?
>>500130530I'm a Paradox main (80% of my 400 games) but Dynamo is what you're looking for.One big ult can make you comeback from 50k behind. If that's not agency, I don't know what is. It also helps that all his abilities are just really, really good.
>>500131605*locks in Haze before you join the lobby and then feeds all game because I've never played her before*Heh... nothin personnel...
>>500131653Watch out, anon. You're gonna summon big hat here to downplay dynamo as anything other than S tier.
by the time we have a draft mode there will be at least two characters i'm interested in playing.i can already play three but two of them have been nerfed so badly that i don't want to play them anymore even if they're still pretty decent.
>>500131653What's his carry potential like? Is he just fucked if his teammates suck? He can't really capitalize on his ult by himself.
>>500131718And you're gonna still come right here to complain about her being broken after going negative.
>>500131757Not really. He is also aware of how good Dynamo is, but jerks himself off about being the only one to "figure out" Dynamo.
>>500131380That was just the recent game, on the last 3 I had a>1 feeding kelvin who ulted us while a haze was ulting with unstoppable, inside, with her>One grey talon that somehow lost lane vs abrams and went 2/9>An ivy going full kudzu bomb build and died 18 times>a seven going 1/18/2 with zero farm>2 teams that decided to coin flip midboss against abrams/infernus/lashImagine 2-3 of these fucking professionally trained mmr assassins every game.
>>500131993bro... youre on ritualist mmr.... not piss low phantom...... you are below dirt...
Do people not realize how squishy Wraith is? Had a few games in a row of people bitching me out after I killed them saying she's too broken to play against
>>500130441siphon bullets ignores damage deferral entirely
>>500131993>feeding kelvin who ulted us while a haze was ulting with unstoppable, inside, with herI would have reported him for griefing. There's no way that's an accident.
>>500131940Really? Usually I see him complain about dynamo being awful. Especially in inhouses (which should be absolute prime dynamo estate for obvious reasons).
>>500132069Siphon bullets suck ass, I don't think that item is good for or against anyone
>>500132069True, but isn't that around 70 DPS with no way to scale it?
>>500132167It suffers from being too good to cost 3k but not good enough to cost 6.2k.
What am I supposed to rush on geist
>>500132050>>500132114That wraith in particular was phantom 5.The kelvin was ascendant 1.Genuine mmr assassins.
>>500132343Suggest to make it 4250 by adding a t2 requirement
Bros, I'm scared. People are getting better at Lash, I don't want Icefraud's balancing team's attention...
>>500132471Yeah, I was thinking about this. Probably a good idea.
>>500132484Lash has literally always been broken auto win what do you meandoesn't matter they'll never nerf him, same as mo n krill valve is retarde
>infernus on my team in rank>30 min of farming and his only life steal is T1 enduring spirit>0 armor>Can't participate in any fight without insta die in 1 sec without even igniting one player>Have the least soul in the whole lobby when all he does is farm, probably extremely inefficientlyHow the fuck can these players even exist?????
>still no ritualist 3 gflife sucks...
Yamato still needs massive buffs. What the fuck?
This is an Initiate 1 gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGv7xWbAN50
>>500132441this is the correct geist buildbuy in order left to right top row to third row
>>500125406her entire kit together is what makes her so dangerous to deal with, her chucking bombs downwind makes people forget about w being like a 6 second silence when maxed or ult making her almost impossible to 1v1 if she isn't braindead, the 3 nerfs were a start considering that skill has the range of an intercontinental cruise missile
>>500132237It's 73 DPS, but it ignores resistance and also heals you (which gets multiplied by resistance). Conservatively it's probably close to 250 DPS when those are taken into account. It also ignores range.
>>500132615Lash is statistically the most fair and balanced hero in the game.
>>500132656am i supposed to get leech that early? Ive always skipped it for more damage/mobility
>>500132615Lash has a 49% win rate. He's literally fine.
>>500132756it sets you to around 2k hp right when you need it, imo it's correct to get it before either alchemical fire or improved burstbefore leech you slowly lose hp in team fights or while junglingspirit lifesteal not enough to keep your hp topped off in the jungle
>>500132656I haven't tried it but my gut says spiritual overflow is better than leech due to the lifesteal nerfs.
>>500132656>only 2 actives on main with one of them offering 0 contribution to the teamwood or lolbab either way you are ass
>>500133001this nigga buys 4 actives every game and only uses 1
>>500131993>kelvin who ulted us while a haze was ulting with unstoppable, inside, with herthe true 50/50 agents of deadlock
>>500131830If your team sucks, you're just gonna lose, so considering that scenario is a waste of time for me.Dynamo's good no matter what the game state is, that's all. So I guess if your team sucks at farming then you can carry with him harder than anyone else.
>>500133001>colossus>not a team fight contributor
who do i play if i like playing annie in league
>>500131653I don't know, does he really? It seems like you don't have that ability to stand and fight, or burst someone down. I never really feel afraid of a Dynamo unless he's currently ulting me.
>>500133286Infernus
- Grey Talon: Movespeed spirit scaling reduced from 0.04 to 0.032- Grey Talon: Bullet damage spirit scaling reduced from 0.13 to 0.12...what the fuck?Isn't this literally fucking nothing?Why are they so keen on giga hard buffing for zero reason but they're so scared of rightfully nerfing?
>>500113458>That faggot haze seething at the end
>>500133505It's a small patch
>>500133505Dota2 philosophy of balance without the massive roster or store to balance it out
>>500133596>just handle grey talon and vindicta for another week and half goyyeah nah pass
>>500129219kek
>>500133624You signed up for a closed alpha.
>Bebop: Sticky Bomb stacks no longer decrease on death>Bebop: Sticky Bomb now gives stacks based on dying heroes hurt by Sticky Bomb damage with a 12 second buffer (previously anyone hit by the bomb would automatically grant stacks)>Bebop: Sticky Bomb damage per stack increased from 3% to 5%>Bebop: Sticky Bomb spirit power damage scaling increased from 0.9 to 1.2I'm not sure if this is even better unless you can shit out like 20 assists per game. At least stacking spirit power will give a little bit more damage.
>>500134028it's just free damage for ult bebop players because nobody has any business playing bomb builds.
>>500134028Bebops are going to be a lot more aggressive it seems
>>500133286I played Annie more than anyone I know and I only played her because Im a pedo not because her kit was that fun to use
is watching matches broken? can't seem to connect to any
>>500134526I love this ugly fucking mongrel rat creature so much
>>500134685too bad her in game art and model is soulless and hideous and nothing like the fanart.
>>500134885Literally no part of that sentence is true thoughever
trade offer un-nerf geist but rework her ult to some other shit I don't care what
Hero specific MMR when?I hate being actively punished for trying a new character. I feel like I've played too much now and I can't learn anyone new.
>>500131462I can relate pretty hard to thisI just can't enjoy any other hero in this game like I do Dynamo, its downright unfun playing anyone else
>>500135459Playing with friends or trying a new hero?Have fun deranking archon!
>>500134685God sameHer art is cute as fuckIn game she's a fucking gremlinI adore the bitch
>>500133505Because Valve has literally never balanced a game remotely wellLook at fucking CS for exampleThere are effectively like four guns in the game, despite there being like 15 that are literally never purchased except by the absolute bottom barrel trash tier noobs.
>>500131993>>500131305>>500130942the game punishes you for doing wellIt will not get better on release, it will always be bad.They need to fill 12 player slots and the only method they'll ever use is making sure your teammates are braindead if you're high MMRor you will never find a match
What other characters should I play if I'm a Wraith one trick? Want to expand my hero pool, got some games on Haze too.
If I can't get a ricochet on Haze by 15 minutes should I skip it, get tesla early?
please just add character bans already stop giving me bullshit cc stun teams i have to fight against like mo/abrams/infernus and whoever else just has disables just making team fights impossible to win it's bullshit overwatch tier fights that dont work in shooters
>>500135620It's not even deranking that bothers me. It's that I have to effectively troll ten games in a row to get my MMR low so I can actually play without just getting shit on because I don't even understand how my abilities function yet.I just ruin the game for ~110 players every time I want to try a new hero. And then another ~110 when I go back to the heroes I'm good at and stomp games.
BOMB-BOP BROS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK>got my final kill by majestic leaping into their fountain and instantly killing heya hoya by sticking myselflmao
>>500135763I'm on a Bebop kick so I recommend bebopSimilar gun, some CC abilities, some explosives, and the big laserPlus the can do the same thing wraith does which is kill walkers midgame in 3-4 seconds
>>500135763ivy
You have 5 seconds to explain why I shouldn't go spirit Mirage every single game
>>500135715That was true like 7 years ago but at the end of CSGO (I don't play CS2) most of the guns had occasions to buy them.There were probably only 3-4 that I didn't see bought in pro level matches.
>>500135907tank mirage health steal evasion stack more marks uhh 5 seconds up
>>500135907I think less of you as a person for playing Mirage
>>500135815im glad the new characters don't have absurd stuns, even as the magician frog you still have movement and calico cat is predictable as fuck.
I have this friend who's really not that bad at the game but he has a sub 20% win rate and I don't even see how that's possibleSince they messed with the group matchmaking I think I haven't won a single game with him out of like 12 or 13 matchesI dunno what's going on. He doesn't perform badly but we're always up against insane shit with lobotomites on our team, the casual queue is just so awful >>500135837Yeah the new bombs are better at basically every stage of the game. Big fan
Vindicta bunny suit when?
>losing lane>land hook and uppercut them into my tower>now winning lane>enemy gets extremely tilted from the cheap kill>win lane harder feels good
>>500131940I'm not "the only one to figure out dynamo". It's that other people aren't getting with the fucking program because they don't want to. People don't like playing support, and I get it.Dynamo isn't a hard hero to understand. He's hard to play. But people keep going the wrong builds and playing him incorrectly. You don't build high tier gun items on him, you get a strong basis to farm with and you build for teamfights/utility.His whole kit is utility and teamfight strength for his team. If you're going gun Dynamo, why not just go some shit like Wraith or Haze? It's pointless playing Dynamo like that when other heroes do that better.It's why I take issue with Ivy. Ivy currently is a glorified janitor hero, her only unique strength is Kudzu, and her other strengths are outdone by Dynamo. She definitely needs a rework.
>>500136104Is he making bad calls
>>500136104>Yeah the new bombs are better at basically every stage of the gamreally? I assumed they'd be worse early on
>>500135459already exists, i switched mains a few weeks ago and my games were so low MMR that they stopped getting caught by the tracker until i played like 40+ games.
>>500131653oh absolutely, people sleep on Dynamo because low winrates and all that but that's mostly because he requires a lot to get going outside of his ult being a complete gamechanger>>500133292A Dynamo that goes all in on 1 is one of the scariest fighters in the game, knockups every second that reach down what feels like an entire lane and do like 500 plus damage a pop, it just usually takes a long time to get going and requires you to actually know exactly what you're doing on the hero
>>500130441>noooooooo 30% damage deferral is too much you cant itemize around it!!!!!!!!how about something that does 30% more damage or more DUMBASS!!! Shiv was complete ass before the buff today.
>>500136313I played Bebop for the first time tonight and had a guy that was in the same match immediately prior where I played my main (Seven) on who I have a 63% winrate and am PhantomSo no
>>500136201Part of the problem now is he's so beat down that he doesn't make calls at all, and just goes with the flow of the game, which he hates, but continues to play. I dunno what to do differently, because people in casual already don't use their mics and whenever we play with a full stack of friends we get against an unbelievable team of hyper competitive career games in discord together while I have two guys I'm trying to teach and one contemplating suicide every time he dies on his hundred game loss streakIt's just all messed up.>>500136248Maybe super early, like pre 3 minutes, but once you get your combo down early game you're probably going to be killing whoever you hook. Also, the improved scaling and cooldown give it more uptime and damage besides.
>>500136574What if he was playing a new hero
>>500136440You're retarded. 30% damage referral is insanely strong, because it increases your EHP by ludicrous amounts compared to the damage you do to him.Let's say your enemy Shiv has 2000 HP. You naively though if you now did 2000*1.3=2600 damage you'd kill him. However, he takes 2600*0.7=1820 damage, and lives. Thirty percent is stronger for him than for you. If he buys armor, it just increases his efficiency even more. You can never keep up with his damage reduction without a MASSIVE soul lead, it is by far the strongest passive in the game.
>>500136574what's your MMR? i was 2500 on my main and only just climbed back to 2000 on my second character.if you aren't that high you aren't going to notice.
>>500136774He was playing the same one>>500136970Phantom 5 IDK how you see a number
Majestic Leap really got buffed all this shit is showing me all you need to do is cry and you are probably going to get a buff or shit reversed this is insane and yamato should have had her ulti cut down to 80 seconds not 85
>>500136797The deferral percent is not the problem 10 seconds is just way too long
>>500137000yeah going open alpha like this was a massive mistake. I really thought Valve was above this sort of thing but obviously they are not. Its like the same devs of a shitty indie game, even having a discord is fucking embarrassing for a AAA dev
>heavy melees are still extending like 5 meters further than they should
>>500137262Why do enemies hit my from 3 miles away, but if Im one centimeter off I dont get the AOE damage?
>>500136797Just giving EHP as a passive is good, but not inherently OP. Especially when that EHP has a huge caveat, he can still die from the bleedout.The cancerous part is where he can just press 3 to heal away giant chunks of damage.
>muh shiv durrhurrd damagealright, buff pristine emblem, fixed. Now shiv dies.
>>500137000one of the nerfs was enough it didn't really need boththough honestly I think the recast nerf should have been the one reversed
>>500137509This. They seem dead set on removing a lot of fun stuff
>>500137262>>500137302melee aoe is a cone so it has longer range at the corners
>>500137302>>500137262Someone in lane tried to heavy me through a corner in lane today and I parried and it played the parry confirm sound, so I heavied around the corner and I got parried.I was pissed.
>>500137226and my other big problem is why cant they balance like for example shiv they need to figure it out because they been having issues balancing this hero since he dropped so at some point they actually have to look at his kit and ask themselves does it make sense
when is the last time they entirely reworked an ability into something else? I heard about like ivys old ult but that was atleast awhile ago, there is so much shit that just doesn't fucking belong and is a putrid stain on the game that just need to be fucking gone.
>>500138265Bebops bombs are here to stay, shitter
>>500138297I meant this for kelvin but whatever
im warden one tricking rn and i wanna kms for itkinda thinkin lash but the first two games i played against people I clearly didnt understand how to play lash
bake new faggots
>>500136184>bunny suit Vindicta >Geist but more transparent dress>Paradox in her coat and micro-bikini >Haze in painted on clothes
>>500136198Yeah ivy is in a pretty weird place right now. I think the tether should be stronger if they want to lean into her being a supporter
the single thing good from last update was character shaders
>>500139015>character shadersw-what?
>>500138829why do you want to play Lash
>>500139093
>>500139093lmao you didnt notice the new shade it actually looks great
>>500139106Since it's fun to play hero?
silence glyph hurts shiv pretty good, anything to make him duck out of the fight after engaging means his deferred damage will take effect before he can engage again
>>500139159way more vibrant to look at and it looks great while playing
>>500139209>>500139209>>500139209
>>500135769Do you really need to teamwipe 15 minutes in? Or can you just assassinate lone targets like haze is supposed to?
