penitent knight for sure next expansion editionPrevious: >>499559906Patch notes:https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/24140808/diablo-iv-patch-notesBuilds:https://www.diablobuilds.com/top-buildshttps://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4https://maxroll.gg/d4https://diablo4.gg/https://d4builds.ggEvent Countdown (WB, Legion):https://helltides.com/Codex:https://diablo4.cc/Gambling:https://diablo4.life/tools/gamblingMap:https://mapgenie.io/diablo-4https://d4planner.io/map/
>>500094853>penitent knight for sure next expansion editionTWO MORE SEASONSTRUST THE PLANTRUST RODPALADINS ARE IN CONTROL
Please play PD2 with me.
>>500093592>finally snap and make a deal to at least secure your homeland from inevitable destruction at least momentarily since the situation is so dire in exchange for that nigga that did jack shit and even lead the girl with the corruption here in the first placeYou're even underselling it here kek.He literally plants the soulstone in Akarat's body, corrupting the Holiest being in their jungle religion whom he's been ironclad in following, going against said Holiest being's wishes in favour of a Prime Evil, then crying about muh trust when confronted.I know the entire thing is shit writing but it feels like another "writer" took over at this part and didn't read the earlier script trying to shoehorn in another le ebin cliffhanger
>>500094853You have been 'predicting' knight penitent since launch. It's never going to happen. We are getting the actual, proper Paladin or there will be riots.
>guide says I need attack speed on ring and to double crit while masterworking it>can't roll an ancestral one with the stats required, make do without attack speed>the 20% attack speed of what I'd get from such a ring is going to be redundant since I have 91% attack speed during combat, while the build suggests I have at least 50% Are they stupid? I'm already attacking extremely fast.
>>500097014Theres 2 different attack speed caps which totals to 164% if you're really trying to tryhard
>>500096035a man can dream.
>>500095865>I know the entire thing is shit writing but it feels like another "writer" took over at this part and didn't read the earlier script trying to shoehorn in another le ebin cliffhangerI'm glad I'm not the only one who sees that. You could pick a regular joe from the street, give him the most rudimentary understanding of diablo lore and he would've come up with a better plot (and an ending) than whoever was writing/approving the story we got. Plus, I don't buy this bullshit cop out with the token asian girl not being corrupted by the soulstone because "akarat gave all he had to protect her". I don't remember if that's how it actually played out, but it just goes to show the quality of writing. She should've gotten the axe by the end of that story. Abysmal self-inserts, I hate when writers do this in the most obvious manner possible.
>>500097470If dreams came true Andariel would have nipples and pubic hair
>>500097307Why is there 2 different atk speed caps and how the fuck does that even work
>>500097479Neyrelle is their attempt at a new game/franchise face like how Tracer is for Overwatch. She already has the screaming s-oy face cinematic and they had to kill Lorath off as too many people liked him because he was an actual character. Hell, she even lost half of her arm in line with that leaked Blizzard diversity scale kek.
I love /d4g/!
>>500094853How much Obducite (masterworks material) can you get with nightmare dungeons in 12 minutes?I farm Infernal Hordes for masterworks material, I timed myself and on a single 10 wave cap run, it takes me about 12 minutes and I take around a little more than 2k masterworks materials.People are always telling me Nightmare Dungeons give better material rewards but I'm really struggling to get the same amount (2k) in 12 minutes of speeding through NMD.Am I missing something or are other people just being inefficient with Infernal Hordes?
>>500097479Or Mephisto should have just come out and said she was a weak vessel and only used to get his soulstone to Akarat, which would make Neyrelle a tool who thought she actually "resisted" him. So far, no human has survived carrying a soulstone with them for a long period of time. Would make sense she only survived because she was a useful tool like Marius was used to smuggle the soulstones.
>>500097793he means softcap and hardcap, like every game ever
>>500098332>Am I missing something or are other people just being inefficient with Infernal Hordes?yes they are, if you are a shitter or you get really unlucky in hordes NMD are better, but if you are fast and/or lucky you can get way more in hordes
>>500098196That season story and boss was kino. Much better than the current expansion and it was about a demon turning men gay.
>>500097793The cap is actually 200% (my bad) which splits into 2 100% caps. On Spiritborn the Ferocity multiplier is Cap 2 whereas AS affix, Paragon nodes, Moonrise, Elixirs and Mercs are all Cap 1. Basically whatever Blizzard chooses.>>500098332If you can clear fast NMDs are on par with the best Horde runs.
>>500098332Only do the new expansion dungeons as NMDs. Old ones are really inefficient. You can easily get 10k in 30 min if you chain them with like 5 min each. Do the treasure rooms and kill everything along the way.If only the XP wells worked...
>>500098697We haven't even had a seasonal theme since S3 lmao. Every season since season 3 has been "we didn't want to do an actual season theme cause we made too many changes to base stuff".Next season better have an actual theme for once with a real system and mechanic to change things up.
>>500099231s3 was the robot spiders? I miss him...
>>500099395Yeah season 1 was malignant gems, season 2 was vampire powers, season 3 was the robot. We've had nothing since then.
>>500099231Nah, I dislike seasonal mechanics. It's either they waste too much dev time on something that will only be available for 3 months or actually add a long lasting mechanic like blood maidens/hordes which were a great addition to the game. I prefer the latter.
>>500099480I don't like it when seasonal mechanics are tied to power.
>>50009970513,000 faggots and they couldn't work on both?
>>500099928They have the A and B team.Usually the "good" seasons are the even numbered ones, and the shitty seasons are the odd ones. They work on stuff at the same time.(Allegedly)
>>500099928Too many cooks in the kitchen.Besides half of those are DEI
>>500099928Only like 100 of those working on D4, maybe 10 of them on seasons
>>500100168>>500099928not only that, most are probably working on overwatch
>>500094853How is this thread still active a month after the new season.
>>500099705>>500099885They don't have to be tied to player power, i think it would be nice once in a while but i think most seasons should be base player power.I just want actual seasonal themes and questlines and shit, literally anything other than ANOTHER "reputation faction" that is just an NPC standing in a city that you get one time boxes from just for killing enemies as usual. It's not even a theme it's just a few extra whisper cache type boxes for just participating in the season.
>>500100493>thanks lil nigga>heres a box with some yellows in them that might have been useful to you 3 days ago
>>500100381D4 good
>>500101710Yeah they're total shit. Every season the final tier cache gives you like 2-3 uniques but requires so much rep that by the time you hit it your character is guaranteed to be geared past basic uniques. They're only good for some extra boss mats but who cares.Give us more shit like bloodtides. That was a theme, it was a new mechanic that was up 24/7, took over a whole zone, changed the color palette of the zone while it was up, had new mobs, good density, and a new system with the blood maiden summoning. It was so good it got carried over to the base game by being implemented into helltides.This is what we need. More of this. I don't even count infernal hordes because it's a single instanced room you teleport to that feels like it was ripped out of vessel of hatred to put in slightly early as an excuse cause they had no theme AGAIN. The infernal council even sounds like mephisto lmao.
>>500101710They don't even give us the repeatable boxes anymore and probably won't again after we got the Merc bartering system.
>>500102751They should do a season that gives you something like Kanai's cube and you can haul around 1-3 extra Unique effects or some shit.
i am using 7 uniques (temerity lol) and no midnight sun in my quill volley and no one is going to stop me
>>500105106I built an all uniques Sorc, stuck in T3
>>500105106you tell em sis
Just how could spirit born would be if he actually had the spider spirit instead of a worm for the venom skills
>>500107192Centipede is better. Spider is cliche.
>>500095079The church of light doesn't want you to know this.
What is the best way to farm gold now? Infernal hordes has been nerfed to hell the gold cache gives practically nothing now.
>>500109941Selling Runes
>grind all paragon glyphs to 46>reach paragon 221>masterwork all equipment to 8/12+>still can't kill a barrier guardian in t4 citadelI finished my weekly on t3 instead.I don't need the T4 armor...
>>500102751After waiting almost a year to go back to hell, that was a real let down. One room with add waves lmao. >>500103715This is a good idea. It really isn't difficult, I don't know why Blizzard is making it harder than it needs to be.
>>500110059If only we had an auction house.
>>500110858>if only we could make the game worse
>>500112743An in game marketplace or AH is a no brainer benefit to the game, not sure why you'd pretend to be retarded and be against it.
>>500113169Because I played D3 at launch. Not even the RMAH but the gold AH ruined the game.
>>500113414I played D3 at launch also, the real money auction house at the start of D3 with its awful itemization has really nothing at all to do with the current state of D4 and a marketplace based on gold and in game materials.You're just making yourself look more clueless.
Uh oh!
>>500114401Damn that looks like straight ass bro lmaooooo
Damn my gf just proposed to me.>>500114552Says the guy that plays a game with trannies in it.
>>500113784The game was purely about the AH, not drops. You buy your gear off the AH and that was it. It was more efficient to break pots for gold than kill monsters.You can wish all you want but they will NEVER add an AH to D4.
This Zagraal boss fight has a pretty good OST
Corrupting is fun.
>>500113414that's true, but for trading in generalwhy do you think runes are a pain in the ass to farm in D4?
>>500114857Yeah because D3 had terrible itemization at the time, which i mentioned, D4 isn't like that you can get your own gear just fine for the most part, the market would just facilitate select pieces you're looking for.I don't need to wish cause a marketplace or SSF mode are inevitable at this point.
>>500115705Never happening
Bros, I REALLY like the Dark Citadel. This has potential to be amazing.
>>500098697>>500099231>>500099395>>500099480My big thing about S3 was it had one of the most well told storylines that created a villain with a real personality. I know other anons mentioned it and I hope it's true; that Blizzard slowly tell more story in the next seasons. S5 did that as well when you met the cultists and confronting the Fell Council. These are the sort of things I know Blizz got it in them, but I can imagine the difficult to shuffle their resources around prioritizing all the crap they shat out in D4. Just look how shitty it is to be in the open world now and getting un-mounted by a random fallen slapping you in one hit.
>u fite to live?>gooood>(lol)
>>500116295I haven't even done it. Bored as fuck with this season already
I think I'm done with my spin2win rogue because I don't want to autistically min max it anymore and gaining paragon levels is slow and gay as fuck.It's throw barbs this seasons right?What are sorcs doing?
>>500118674lightning spear
>>500118413I coom whenever I enter the Infernal Horde with their VAs.>ABOMINATION! SPAWN OF LILITH! YOU SHALL BURN FOR NOTHING!
>>500118674Spiritborn
World bosses are about the extent of multiplayer interaction I want in my arpg
>>500116295It's actually really fun, if a bit too easy. Although that might be because every group as at least two SB's doing that stupid "press button, do trillions" build.
D4 still needs a lot of work, bros. It's boring, the endgame is virtually non-existent and pointless, the whole thing stinks. You don't have a reliable way to get the items you want without investing time into farming boss mats, you hardly have a chance of getting the best 3+GA items. There is no Leaderboard to show how good your character has become so what is the point of grinding for better gear? Items don't have inherent value like they did in D2This game is trash. I gave it multiple chances and they still don't get it.D4 BadPoE 2 is on the horizon. I don't think Blizz will ever understand what made D2 and even D3 good ever again. They keep fucking it up over and over
>>500121089They made it easily doable with only the chat + markers and the fact that the game tells you what to do otherwise people would complain, because God forbid some content is hard.
>>500121557If I wanted to deal with other players doing the thing I'd still be playing WoW (I'm not)
>>500121557Not him, but I don't care whether the Dark Citadel is fun. What do I have a chance to get from it that I can't get elsewhere? Do I have a shot at Mythic Uniques? If not, then it's a waste of my time. Do I have a shot at good GA items? If not, then I'd rather just play solo and grind alone. Why do you Blizzdrones not get why this stuff is pointless busywork?
>>500121916It only gives you exclusive cosmetics. The completion bonus gives a bunch of ancestrals but you likely have a full kit if you completed it on T4 anyway. I had fun doing it but I am not clamoring to repeat it every week. I think there's enough solo content in the game it's fine for groupers to have something just for them.
>>500121820Blame the jews at Blizzard for making them turn it into an MMOlite cash shop always online Hell.>>500121916People like you are why gaming is fucking full of ADHD shit and retarded communities. You can't be doing something for fun and there always has to be something to grind for, God forbid you aren't grinding the most optimal thing either. Every online gaming community is eventually ruined by minmaxing faggots such as yourself.
>>500097523>>500114401>>500114774>>500115513is this that project diablo that you keep talking about? looks weird.
>>500122436The game needs to be like Diablo 2 where a clearly defined goal can be achieved. Like in D2, the first order of business is to farm Countess for runes to make some early runewords, and then you go from there and eventually farm Nightmare until you can safely farm Hell. You have little tiers and the items reflect that but some items are good from difficulty to difficulty.D4 is not like that. You get a good item and you never replace it until the next difficulty tier and then all of a sudden all those items you farmed are worthless.D4 is just bad, broAlso, I am a Jew
>>500122706>D4 is not like that. You get a good item and you never replace it until the next difficulty tier and then all of a sudden all those items you farmed are worthless.This is incorrect as of season 6.
>>500121327also i am retard give now microwave no make wait why game do show me and my penis
>>500123634What the fuck are you trying to say? Do you have FAS?
>>500123608Item quality levels are the same thing. They have tiers of value. Eventually the lowest level items below 750il become worthless.Also, the leveling system is very fast. All of the systems in D4 suck ass and make for a grindy waste of time. Wake me up when they finally add a goddamned Leaderboard like D3 GRs
>>500124035>needing a leaderboard in a SP game that's broken all to hellWhat do you care which cheating Chinese is on top I'm a given week?
>>500124367>I'm a given weekNo you're not.
>>500124367Diablo 4 just sucks, bro. I play and I'm constantly thinking, "what am I playing this for? What do I gain from any of this?" I don't receive any satisfaction from grinding the same old dungeons over and over with no target farming except for Tormented Bosses where the drop rate for Mythics is insanely high now. The game is just a grindy misdirected mess.What is the goal of any character? To reach max GG items essentially, but the game doesn't provide a means to find the best or near-best items. It lets you run doing the same tired dungeons over and over never really knowing if you'll get a 3+GA item or what kind you'll get at all. Very demoralizing.
tormented bosses being the only reliable source of gold is pretty shit
>>500125945Isn't that all ARPGs in a nutshell? You could be burnt out.
>>500125945This is every video game in existence. You play until you get bored or accomplish what you wanted to. There are enough goals in d4 to last someone a good 100 hours of playtime every season. In Poe, I always complete 40/40 challenges then quit. Some people like to jew the markets. Everyone has a goal in mind. It's up to you when you are satisfied.
>>500126516Maybe. The game just doesn't have that goodness factor older games have, like D2, D3 or PoE.That's why I'm waiting for PoE 2. If PoE 2 is not to my liking I might be burned out.
As Spiritborn, how should I get 240 Max Resource?
>>500098332Only 2k? That's not efficient at all, it's roughly 4k for me if the run is fubar with spires etc and 7-8k when you get hellborn spawns
>>500131660yeah fucking right KEK
>>500132083
>>500129873GA on rod of kek, Shako, Yens Blessing, and an ammy with resource. It's a very easy threshold to hit. If you are struggling with some you can just make an elixir.
>>500129873122% barrier is alot harder
>>500118812It's a thing I miss with the other bosses, I wish they'd have at least one opening line to give them some personality
roasted and toasted
>>500140046When did D2 season start and when will it end?
>>500140046damn they put spiritborn in d2???
>>500140046Bro your D2R mode? OG looks like ass
>>500141384thats the D2R mode, is just that the webm is at 240p.
>dclone at 5/6>wait ingame for hours to not miss it>it finally walks but does not spawn in my game>read online there is an existing bug where this sometimes happensThanks blizzard, very nice
>>500141384The light on the wall is too good to be OG
only 258 paragon i don't think i'm gonna make it lads
>>500112743Ah yes the typical knee jerk reaction and not even trying to understand what's the actual underlying problem is. People like you are insufferable.
>>500144927I think I'm done after I get lvl 100 glyphs and the citadel skins, fuck grinding the paragons
guys, it keeps happening
>>500124568I've been outed as a filthy phoneposter. >>500125945You might be depressed or burned out. Go play something else and come back to D4 if/when you get the urge.
>>500125945I wish I had a higher drop-rate on mythics. I'd like them just to have them. I want to really push a build very far. If you are tired of the game, give it a rest. Don't get so burned out you don't want to come back to D4. I was getting tired of spirit born so I went and started a new character. It helped me a lot. I'm playing around with a sorceress focusing on the new familiar skill and it's a new gameplay loop for me and I find myself appreciating the game a bit more.
>>500155174Getting ancestral with GAs you can actually use is harder to get and it's pissing me off
>tfw
>>500155425I've given up on getting anything decent on my gloves. The issue with limiting your tempering in order to make ancestral gear matter is that you really feel artificially gimped without it and it becomes upsetting. If you are playing the game long enough to understand the importance of needing ancestral stuff you probably understand that you need the right rolls. When you don't get those rolls it feels like the game isn't respecting your time.
>>500144927I'm at 228 and it feels like a slog to get the xp and glyphs higher. I'm probably being costed by some bad rolls on my masterworks but money can be hard to come by and easy to waste in this game. (I don't trade and I doubt I will.) It's a massive grind and the reward for those points is more pit pushes. But pit pushing isn't really that much fun.
Thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcL3_csv3v0
>>500159105AI generated thumbnails are only slightly less obnoxious then basedjacks foaming at their mouths. Thank you for sparking this riveting discussion anon.
>>500155943wtf is this?
>>500159105>Thoughts?None whatsoever, waiting on Asmongold to provide me with an opinion. I also play Spiritborn.
>>500161312D4 Bad
>>500161684rhykker disagrees
>>500159105Just give me the build so I can try it out myself, I don't want to watch a fucking video about it
>>500162237Bro, it sucks so bad. I play it and wonder why I'm playing. It's s grindfest that has no purpose. Even MrLlamaSC said the same thing on his stream. He said the game is grindy but lacking in rewards. He said it's like someone who didn't know what was fun about grinding in these games made a sequel.The game needs a lot of work. IT IS BADChurning out dungeon after dungeon for nothing in return is bad game design. There's no target farming (except for Mythic Uniques which are a chore to get), and you have to get farming mats for every boss encounter. The game just sucks, bro. It's a terrible experience from start to finish. And they made it worse since last season too. Spiritborn is going to be overpowered because it's new and they want to sell copies, sure, but the Spiritborn is a gay character that doesn't fit with the others. They took a plunge off a cliff going all in with "Spiritborn".I hate this game. Pointless, too grindy, bad experience
>>500164298>MrLlamaSC
>>500159105>only 10 trillionInto the trash it goes. Just position yourself properly and QV is far superior.
>>500159105>youtube builds
>>500159105Reminder that this dude changed his build over 20 times after saying his build was the "100% complete, best build of the league" and his builds are *still* garbage.
I think I figured out the problem with D4 ultimate endgame. You never really get 'stronger' because the enemy become damage sponges. I know people here don't like POE but I will use it as a comparison. In POE you can scale your damage near infinitely to the point where you can melt everything on the screen.In D4 that doesn't happen. You reach a plateau that you can never overcome. A couple of damage % increases from glyph leveling isn't enough to keep going. Even if you had absolutely perfect stats and masterwork crits you still wont feel much stronger. Especially if you are tying to push in the pit. If you combine this with the fact that Ancestral drops are scarce and you can't reliably increase your aspect strength or find the greater affixes that you are looking for on the gear you need the game stonewalls you. You could farm all 3 months of a season and never get perfect stats on your character.
So many doomposter is this because Poe2 is on the horizon or is another arpg coming?. Meanwhile i’m just waiting for halloween patch while i suffer on my pulverize druid.
>>500167796>Reminder that this dude changed his build over 20 times after saying his build was the "100% complete, best build of the league" and his builds are *still* garbage.Yeah, weird guy.I tried playing one of his in S5, but the video and guide link had different stuff. Like a half-assed updated build link from S4, some para nodes from befor doing nothing, some items lacking stats. And about 90% of the video comments mentioned these errors, but even after over a month he didnt bother fixing anything at all or even replying to anyone. What a lazy assed cunt
>some fgt posts one (1) youtube link>gets all the (You)s>my well thought out on topic post receives no (You)sI hate you guys
>>500168347What post was it? I'll give you a well thought out reply.
>>500168347I'll trade your post one (You) for a Nig and a Ger Rune
>>500168027Hilarious reddit post.In both of these shitgames your scaling caps at some points>oh wow, PoB says this item gives me 0.5% more dps. i will surely notice it while farming or bossing. Spending a week getting it was worth it and i cant wait for another 0.5 next week
Alright, what is the best way to farm ancestrals? The only thing holding me back now is 2+GA ancestrals and the aspects on them
>>500169241>Alright, what is the best way to farm ancestrals? farm a lot. like really much. very long>The only thing holding me back now is 2+GA ancestrals and the aspects on themThat's everyone
>>500169241Don't bother trying to target farm. Greater affixes that are usable are as rare as mythics this season. If anything you have better luck using Obols.
what the FUCK is this?
>>500149092I hate you.
>>500171253looks like drood
>>500168027Yes this is why it's shit. you figured it out. you reach big walls in your progression
YOU STILL BELIEVE IN VICTORY?
>>500171253Looks like D'ruid, the Maiden of Lard. One of the lesser evils.
>>500169241Unironically Pit 2 min farms. Hordes take at least 10 min while you can do 5 pits in that time. You also get gambling currency to get more.
>>500162809>Just give me the buildevery build is almost exactly the same temper max resolve stacks/resilient, spend billions on MW 3x crit, if you dont have enough vigor at this point in the season somehow use hubris in sapping instead of menagerist
Once you get all best 2+GA items and perfect rolls and a perfect character who is going to care? What can you do with it? Can you do something on Leaderboards? Can you trade any of your GG gear away?That's why this game is pointless.
>>500168027I guess. I mean at this point anything T4 dies in one hit. If you’re talking about Pits then I’m not sure what you want because it’s an endlessly scaling challenge; there is an absolute maximum. Are you stuck in T3 or something?
>tfw you fail glyph upgrade 7 times in a rowI'm not even mad
>>500173701Like what pit level? 90s are dropping yellows still.
You guys ever play together?
There's a clan <FREN> or some shit but last thing I want to do is play with a bunch of faggots from /d4g/.
>>500179132I thought it was dead
>>500179132Ooo I do! Pick me pick me! :)
>>500175283They disabled the leaderboard thing in S6 for some reason
>>500180997I know, but it needed an even better Leaderboard or something to show your progress against other players. It also needs a trade system that's more open so you can trade your best GG items away. Without these two things the game is a grindfest for no purpose other than to get max GG gear and then stare at it with nothing to show for it. If someone gets all the best gear this season, and I'm stuck with basic 750 item level gear and 200 Paragon, what difference does it make? I completed my Season Journey, so what else is there to do now?
can't do enough damage in t4 as mighty throw barb to not make it boring. done after p235. thank god poe2 is soon
this game is forcing me to get starlink, even a 1 second connection hiccup is enough to have you lose an ancestral tribute with a seething opal
>>500182765Good man. This game doesn't deserve your time
>>500182765its frustrating as a barb. I switched over to spiritnigger and he can do the equivalent of t5 or even t6 faster than any barb can while being tankier. how does that make any sense.
>>500182765Yep. 234p Rogue here. Spiritborn blows the other classes out of the water. You wont get past low 100 pits. Maybe next season blizzard will get the balance right.
>>500185539>Maybeyeah BIG maybe. not that anyone will care with poe 2 being around.
>>500185539Spiritborn is an easy fix, they don't want to fix it mid season because the last time they did that it killed the game kek
>>500186190what about him is an easy fix? he has a buttload of builds with damage numbers that need to be tuned down by literally 10000%
>>500186432>hedid you really just assume the lgbtborn's gender?
>>500186537on the internet everyone is a he.
>>500186432Because everything about Spiritborn is quadruple double dipping.
they should really add a map filter for tormented boss summons, it's a nightmare trying to find them. Or at least change the icon to something more different than the dungeon icon
>2024>d4 has no loot filter
If anyone wants a good game to play while they wait for PoE2 and D4 isn't cutting it I recommend Torchlight 1 and 2
>>500188183torchlight is unironically worse than d4 and d3
>>500188183I suggest playing an entirely different genre. I hop between Helldivers 2 and Darktide.
>>500190352Torchlight is better than D4. I think it's more fun. D4 has so many problems that it's hardly a functional game after a certain point. When you reach endgame it doesn't have any point to it.>>500190660Torchlight 1 and 2 are pretty fun, bro. Simple, which is a breath of fresh air after complicated ARPGs. I'm not saying D4 is complicated but it has new things you have to reach like max resource, and barrier generation, and things like that to makes builds function. Torchlight is simpler and easier to grasp.
>>500191895isnt it offline only? me and many others are unable to play anything other than on closed servers.
>>500188183can you play torchlight 2 with a controller? any mods you would recommend?
>>500159105love to exploit barrier + viscous shield bug and kepeleke + midnight sun for every build.
>>500192119Torchlight 1 and 2 are offline, but 2 has an online component>>500192394I think Torchlight 1 and 2 are on console now, but from a google search it looks like compatibility on PC is spotty-----------------------------------------------------------------------If anyone wants to help me on my D4 journey, I will explain where I am. I'm about Paragon 190 with all 750 item level gear, and full max roll gear according to Quill Volley Spiritborn build guide on Maxroll.gg. I have pretty much the exact same setup as the Quill Volley Ancestral build but without the Ancestrals. I don't know where to go from there. I can't complete Torment 4 The Pit, so I've decided to quit.I think I need 240 maximum resource, but I don't know how to achieve that with my current setup. I have some boss mats, so should I be doing bosses to try to get a Shako or Tyrael's?If anyone has a recommendation to keep going and playing D4 I would like that.
Its kinda disheatening seeing these spiritborn clear pits like its nothing while I struggle in 90s.
>>500197014Its worse seeing these cocky randoms acting like they are good playing the FOTM broken OP class.
>hordes>4 spires spawn in a rowFuck this fucking gay ass mode.
so uhhh what are your hopes and expectations for the next expansion? gonna be pretty hard getting me to come back and play unless there's some crazy good seasonal content.
>>500199049A new class that I'm interested in.
>>500200292how about the dustborn?
150m and 10k obducite and I can't even get a double crit masterwork
>>500200483How do they play?
Anyone on PD2 wanna give my ass a quick lil rush?
>>500199049it’s going to keep improving every season from this pointnext expansion is probably 5/6 seasons away but I expect it will be Khanduras and Westmarch plus Paladin, kino return of Tyrone
you should be able to craft horde compasses with sigil powder, nightmare keys are pretty much worthless and the power even moreso
>>500200912improve on what? we are really expected to go through the same gameplay loop every three months?
>>500202294There’s no we, truly I wish you would fuck off
Why is Kurwashed so comfy?
skyforge, home
>>500200704>How do they play?With their/them freaking Voice!>call Mephisto a racist>he surrendersez win
>>500197638just reset if no Hellborne
Here is your level 300 paragon reward
>>500179132i don't think everyone in that guild is from /d4g/ but there are at least a couple of us. it's fun :)
Stupid question but: can anyone tell me what are these orange things that are creating during the Unstable Currents ultimate?I am using all lightning skill and have no idea what these fire/orange drones that appear duing ult are. I read all my skills, passives and legendary aspects and don't understand what is causing this.
>>500208235>Kill me, please, I want to die
>>500193587i think i tried the same thing you did (switch to the "ancestral version" asap but went back to the t1 starter setup but used the uniques i found until i got ancestral versions. rebounding is worth having at lower power i think, instead of moonrise on gloves
>>500209254Familiar.
>19,000 attack power at neutral>25,000 attack power with buffs>T4 still feels like a slog to cut throughWhat attack power should I be aiming for at t4?I've been slowly optimizing my gear masterworking it to 12/12.
>>50020980225,001
>>500209719Thanks for the asnwer but why the hell is fire familiar created when I am using no fire skills?
>>500209802Attack power is a useless stat to gauge build strength. Anyway the best power multiplier is glyphs so you better get used to running the pit.
>>500209802I had 21,9 k (a few days ago) unbuffed/afkBut these numbers do not mean much, there is a lot of scaling (depending on class and build) everywhere
>>500210083My glyphs are all at 46. Do I need to push them higher?I'm not trying to push pit, just to feel comfy at T4.
>>500210031Do you have the Summoned Familiar passive?
Woot, 140 clear. Could probably pull off 141, MAYBE 142. My damage needs to go up, my survivability is rock solid. Just need some masterwork crits and a few GA+2 items...not to mention max aspects...
>>500210031Fire Elemental is the default one when its not cast by you.>>500210175Its the easiest way to scale power so you don't have to level them but you're missing out on a lot of easy and often multiplicative damage.
>>500210545you doing overpower?
Im bored guys. What do you do when you finish everything worthwhile?
>>500214249Don't you have anything else to play? I switch between D4, SM2, Witcher 3 and whatever else pops to my head. It's best to do it that way imo. You'll avoid burning out. Unless you have someone to play D4 with, then you can go for that too I suppose.
>>500210545Whoa anon that's impressive>spiritbornOh, nevermind...
>>500094853What class/build is this good for?
>>500214249Go play something else until next season
>>500211782the nicktew quill volley overpower yes
>>500216245Weapon throw barb and thats about it this season
>>500210545Pit 140 for Memeborn is like Pit 60 for other classes
Bros I might have to use the trade site, I cant get a single Bac rune.I'm already cheating by playing spiritborn so what does it matter?
I just finished the campaign expansionHow could they make a Diablo Expansion story filler?
>maxroll's crushing hand and quill volley "mythic" versions are the EXACT same gear/tempers just different skillsKEK
>>500217517Because the build is the resolve stacks, block chance bugs and barrier bugs, not crushing hand or quill volley.
has there always been a bonus option for the realm zone? p258 and never noticed, ive just been thinking the opals i get are rando, ive only done the shit maybe a dozen times
>>500216975show me your pit 140 spiritborn run
Halloween event on yet?
why does everyone want spiritborn nerfed instead of other classes buffed? Even with perfect gear, perfect aspects, perfect everything most classes still won't be able to do pit 135 let alone pit 150
>>500218832Sorry, I don't play on easy mode
>>500218356There's always been 4 options; gold, materials, equipment or torment (boss mats & infernal compasses).You'll typically get opals of whichever realm bonus you choose. You do get a bunch of random ones from the Zakarum Remnants renown ranks though.>>500218851October 29, 10 am PT
I'm literally the only one still doing Realmwaker anymoreWhat a failure of an open world season eventCan we get the spider robots back?
>>500177513Whatever level you can clear in less than 2 min.100 is decent
>>500219734last night i ran a few to get opals and there were others there
>>500219102It needs to be both. Spiritborn needs to be nerfed and everyone else needs to be buffed.If everyone gets buffed to spiritborn level the game becomes ultra dogshit because now everyone is one shotting every mob effortlessly with barely any gear and no progression even really exists. Playing a spiritborn right now you're done by the time you even reach T4, you're one tapping everything upgrading your gear or perfecting your stats doesn't do shit how does it help you other than pit 100+ pushing which is pointless?But if they nerf spiritborn down to every other class then every class is now struggling to progress at all, pit 100s would be very difficult and barely anyone could level their runes.Nerf spiritborn and buff everyone else to meet halfway.
>>500219102Not necessarily meant to get that high. They probably also want room to add new items that increase everyone’s power in a roughly equal way and that isn’t as interesting if everyone’s already pushing to 150
>>500219734I stockpiled on opals by doing it right after it was buffed. Now only do it if there's a whisper or my xp buffs need to be refreshed to overlap.
When are we going to have a sale? I want to play so bad but my $$$$ say wait
>>500225219Don't you guys have jobs?!
>>500225219just buy the game you big dummy
>>500225918You know very well that we don't.
>>500225219mid season patch at the soonest but it'll prob be a small discount, xmas would prob be the first time there is a good discount
Harlequin good even if all I wanted was the +4core and damage reduction?I'm a fireball sorc
>>500239893if you dont need the CDR, Heir of Perdition could be better dps
I know the guides suggest crit damage as an affix, but there isn't functionally a difference between +50% Damage and +50% Crit Damage any more now is there?
Friggin bored of spiritborn, thinken bout spirit wave necro
>>500225219I'd say second week of November, it's when I personally got the game last yearIt was 50% off, but not sure if they'll discount the bundle with the expansion
>>500209620Yeah, I forgot about that. Rebounding does more damage. Interesting. I may go mess with that to see if it helps.
Poe 2 delayed indefinitely. I kneel d4chads, I'm sorry I ever doubted you. Looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and learn to love strong powerful women of color. Is it too late for me to enjoy this season?
Does only the person who put in the tribute of harmony get the increased rune drop at the end or does the whole party get it?
>>500246539everyone
>>500121327>>500161684>D4 BadD4 Bad
>>500246502Predictable, but a pity: the competition could have motivated/accelerated future D4 developments. But D4 is comfy kino at the moment, I just hope they don't rest on their laurels.
Is Diablo 4 worth it? Never played a Diablo, closest game I've played would be Division 1 and 2 which I enjoyed.
>>500249552maybe try the trail on gamepass or something>closest game I've played would be Division 1 and 2 which I enjoyed.dont think they are at all close or similar
>>500249880When I meant similar, I meant there are world tiers, redoing missions on different difficult, grinding for loot etc.
>>500250186Its very different genres and gameplay. Go watch videos or streams.There is a lot of grind and it becomes rly slow later. Story is lame.
>>500249552>Is Diablo 4 worth it?Yeah, 100%
Lol, PoEfags BTFO
>PoEKWAB
>kek what a babarude
>>500250489D4 is really bad
>>500253204>>500250489>>500247880this poetranny is fucking SEETHING
Now I understand why the shilling campaign hadn’t started but this makes it obvious they’ve known about needing to delay for a while
>>500121327>PoE 2 is on the horizon.boy this did not age well
>>500253928Three weeks is not that long to wait for a better game
>>500255205>o-only three m-more weeks i p-promise!!!!
>>500255298D4 sucks because you hit walls in your progression. If you don't get something you need you get stuck at a certain difficulty tier with no real way out other than min maxing or trying to find something you need desperately to make the build work.For Spiritborn Quill Volley I don't know what I need to advance into Torment 4. I think using Boss Mats in Torment 3 isn't worth it to get Mythics because the drop rate is lower, so I look for other things I need first. Then I can't find anything except to keep pointlessly grinding the same dungeons with almost no hope for a 2+GA Ancestral.That's why I got stuck. I need Mythic Uniques to hit the Max Resource breakpoint of 240, but I can't find the gear I need so Kepeleke + Midnight Sun combo doesn't work as well.
>>500255775>D4 sucks because you hit walls in your progressionstopped reading here. skill issue.
>>500255775Spiritborn doesn't need any mythics what are you talking about? No mythic is going to help your resource bro. 240 resource comes from rod of kekw and your paragon/glyph.The only mythic anyone uses for spiritborn is shroud but it's not needed it literally just has health and +1 to passives on it for quality of life.
>>500256094D4 sucks because it has no level design and is just the same dungeons over and over.>>500256096I have the Paragon and Kepeleke. I still haven't reached 240 Resource. What Glyph gives Resource?
>>500256267i have a p258 spiritborn and never once have been this obsessed over resource. you either don't know how to play your build, or have the wrong setup. skill issue (which is hard to do since you're obviously following a guide)
>>500256267Menagerist on the sapping board.
>>500256389It's not a skill issue you tainted little cuntTell me how to reach 240 Resource
>>500255205a 4 week delayon top of the initial delay wayyyyyyyyyyy back in april.
>>500256450idk dude, play the game. if you’re p190 and can’t handle torment 4, you must be a literal retard
>>500256795I followed the build guide to a tee. It doesn't work
>>500256795When I stop attacking my Resource Bar stops filling and just sits there making my damage bad. Why is this?
>>500256795Nah fuck it. I don't give a shit about this game. This game sucks, bro. Spiritborn was a shitty character.Don't help me. This game sucks.D4 Bad
am i in the twilight zone bros? how can you fail at spirit born
>240 resourceWhat? My Spiritborn melted down T4 Duriel and Andariel the moment I got all Glyphs to 46 with 50% midnight and 2,6 Kepeleke. Even now I don't have 240.
>>500259993I followed the build guide to a tee, and yet I die at T4 Pits. The damage drops off when the Resource bar refuses to fill back up to full. Am I just not pressing buttons at the appropriate time? If so, I'm not playing a build like that
Fuck this gay ass gameD4 BAD
>>500260304Only way that's happening is if you have a bad Midnight roll and not enough resource gen. Is your midnight 50% and resource gen 100%?
>>500260304This doesn't even make sense cause kepeleke turns your core skill into a generator if you're not at full resource so you just spam it infinitely as long as you're hitting something.I'm with the other anon, it's not even really possible to be this shit and retarded at spiritborn so this feels bizarre and twilight zone.
>>500260742My Resource Generation is 47.1% and I have no idea how I could improve it 53% more beyond the guide. I thought Ravager was supposed to give some. and I have a Midnight Sun of 50.>>500261140Then fuck off you annoying faggot
>>500261354I changed my amulet so now I'm 61.1% I still need 40 more resource gen
I finally got enough Paragon to the get the Sapping node and that seemed to help it a lot
Even when I figure it out the game is still not fun though. Somehow people are supposed to get 30k life while I have like 3k. I don't understand Spiritborn so I'm not having fun. Peace out bros. Game's not for me.
>>500261792do you want some durial/andy carries buddy
PoE 2 is on the horizon. Thank God for that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZUOkHbyP0
>>500262228No I want to quit the gameIt's grindy with no purpose. Game suxAnyone who likes Diablo 4 is a certified retard. It's actually worse now than it was in Season 5
>>500262307lol you should kill yourself desu
>>500262229>PoE 2 is on the horizoAnon, I...
>>500262307The irony of you saying D4 is for certified retards while you unironically can't figure out how to play spiritborn is very very funny.Like this class literally requires 3 uniques to one tap the entire game and you can't figure it out even with multiple guides at your fingertips.
Game's not for me, bros. It feels foreign, like I don't understand it. I don't like the feel of Spiritborn Quill Volley especially. I hate the way the things shoot out and the positioning. It feels bad. Not for me, brehs.Pointless grind for nothing in return. No Leaderboard, no purpose to anything, limited trading. Can't trade GG gear. Game sux. I'm washing my hands of it. I'm going on a walk to clear my head and then never playing this game for the rest of this season. I already finished my Season Journey so I don't care about what happens after.
>>500262550you should take your meds
>>500262653You should know your game is shit and countless others agree
>>500262691maybe on planet retard
When will d4 become free to play?NEETs need to play video games too!
>>500263758Reddit leaksDiablo 1 and 2 free with Steam launch early 2025Then diablo 3 summer 2025
>>500264943it's over
diablo 3 rules. i should grind the new season for a few days
>>500264943>steam launchbut you still need bnet launcher to play?
>>500265210then what is the fucking point
>>500265265No I think you just need to link it once, not sure. But they will (supposedly) use whatever integration OW uses with Steam.
>thread during american hours is very active>thread during euro hours is dedEuros don't like slop?
>>500267974remember when you failed at spiritborn KWAB
>>500265054I kind of hate how tanky enemies are early game even at normal difficulty
HOW do you fail at Spiritborn?
>>500268802slow geriatric hands probably
>>500264943why would they make diablo 2 free? is it the original one or resurrected? and does it come with LoR or just the base game?
Dark Citadel is nice for guaranteed GA, shout I be happy or mad with this?
>>500274014Hey man could be worse. Does ANYONE in the game use this thing?
>>500216245Blood lance.
>>500262550Got a link to your blog?
>>500275173For a non-mythic it was good on Barb last season.
Do you guys use a diablo trade discord or the trade website?
>>500283051No, it's still too much of a pain in the ass. If I could list an item for sale with the price all within the game and then just respond to whispers I would be happy and use it, but I'm not fucking around manually putting in stats or taking screenshots to sell an item
>>500275173>4 stars>but fucking low 7%that should not be allowed
>>500283051only the websiteits kinda fast and easy with screenshot
>>500284037Ya would be nice to be able to sacrifice other GA's to boost it up like a system already in the game. Guess this things going to live the rest of its days and rot in the stash lol.
>>500094853I have a 90000 IQ planSparks are shared account wide, right? So if I use my old eternal realm characters, salvage their mythics (I have a few) then I can use their sparks to craft mythics for my seasonal.I'm so smart my god
>>500284348that's not a bad idea, since you aren't storing unique affixes in the codexmaybe dismantling uniques gives you a resource and you spend a bunch of those to reroll the unique affix and potentially get a perfect roll
>>500284861Doesn't work
>>500284861>Sparks are shared account wideThey are shared *realm* wide, seasonal realm stashes are added into eternal when the season ends
>>500284861>Sparks are shared account wide, right?in the same gamemode/realm
>>500285309For some of its shortcomings, Division 2 did nail this down pretty well. You can fix gear by doing the following:Recalibration>Youre looking for a Helmet with Damage, Armor and Crit Damage>You find a Helmet with Damage, Armor, and Health affixes on it>Not what you want BUT the damage roll on this is a few points from max>You can extract (and destroy) this Helmet and store the Damage roll in your Library >In the future, you can apply this Damage roll to any Helmet you find by Recalibrating (Enchant) one affix>In the future you find a Helmet with Skill Damage, Armor, and Crit Damage, now you can swap Skill Damage with that high Damage roll you found beforeOptimization>Similiar to Masterworking>You spend money and materials to incrementally increase a gear’s Affix towards max valueBasically, your Codex in Div 2 not only holds Aspects, but affix values for all pieces of gear that you can continuously increase by salvage/extraction in order to “fix” your drops rather than waiting for RNG to do it for you.
>>500261354>>500261439Tree + ravager + up to 15% from passive skill + ring + the little bit you get from int is plenty. Everyone recommends a 47% midnight sun or better because it makes it trivial to hit 100%.
HOLY SHITI have never found this before ever
Why do all the build sites INSIST on using Soul Rift and Grasping Veins on minion necros?Why do they all run Great Feast, but not Frenzied Dead?Why do they insist on not putting extra minions on the amulet for an extra mages/warriors to scale literally everything up?
>>500290243I have no idea what build makers do or why, I just make my own build and kill monsters
>>500291124My autism refuses to acknowledge that these people are all just retarded. There MUST be some alterior motive to them all including the same mistakes that drastically weaken the build.
>>500291625There are no western build makers for D4. Everyone just steals from the Chinese build makers as best as they can copy/translate with google translate and then claim they invented the builds.The one guy who feeds "his" ideas to Rob/Goblin/NickTew/Woody/Raxx is just directly copying what the Chinese are hyping as best he can. Then the streamers claim the builds as their own. If there are mistakes nobody knows how to fix them because they don't fundamentally understand the builds.
>>500292192Then wow the Chinese are bad at building minion necros...
>>500290243The calculations bro
>>500293464Kripp does necrocbuilds like every season
>>500293815The calculations are wrong then. Grasping Veins is a practical 1.28x damage mult. Minion count in the same slot and bringing golem instead of tendrils is a 1.59x mult accounting for mendeln even including the loss of the golem sacrifice.
>>500294202But the ammy Grasping Veins with Masterworked Heir of Perdition brings critical strike chance to 100%
>>500294486You can easily hit that without grasping at all.
>>500294486>>500294551100% crit rate isn't some magical thing. The game no longer runs "damage buckets" anymore in the background. All damage bonuses are equal, so all mults should be treated the same.A 1.3 mult is objectively better than a 1.29 mult no matter what now, and that extra 30% crit just isn't worth the sacrifice of a potentially much stronger mult.
If your minions are so great why don't you post your 2 minute 150 pit right nowAlso, post your build that I can copy it.
>>500295839It does but limited. Most of your Legendary Glyph abilities will have like a x(20%) mult that doesn’t just get added with all your other shit. Some aspects are like that too
>>500256450>how to reach 240 ResourceMW'd Kepeleke (31 for me) Sapping board (3 nodes for 16, and another set of 4 nodes, 3 of which can be boosted by your glyph). Elixir of Resourcefulness II gives 25 Vigor for 30 minutes.Spiritual Attunement talent gives 10 max Vigor per point if you have an Ultimate skill on your bar (which you should, 30 Vigor right there), and any extra talent points from gear etc. will give you 10 more points.
How do you respond without sounding like a hater?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnsNEeLRMik
>>500290243>Why do all the build sites INSIST on using Soul Rift its OP>and Grasping Veins on minion necros?its good>Why do they all run Great Feast, but not Frenzied Dead?i use both>Why do they insist on not putting extra minions on the amulet for an extra mages/warriors to scale literally everything up?that would be minus one offensive aspect. i'd like to use it but this sucks>>500294551>>500295839max crit chance with 1 or 0 (zero) crit chance on all your gear is neat. makes space for other stats on gear
>>500268802By not paying attention.If you just copypaste a zomg bestest build, but your Vigor is sub 200 and you're rolling around with a 25% Midnight and a sub 2% Kepeleke, you'll be stuck in Pit ~60 limbo and Torment 4 will be a brick wall.
>>500290243>Grasping Veins on minion necros?Crit Dmg of that works with it now cuz player is the source of Mendeln Proc
>2GA gloves>50 billion minimumOUCH
hallowhen free stuff and new drops when
guys i camt
>see item that looks underpriced>spend a few seconds checking if it really is>its is>but its sold nowsad
Wait a damn second. WHy didn't my Citadel challenges reset?
>>500303694nvm I had to zone out and back in.
>progression is now scanning 3rd party websites for 2GA ancestrals
>>500305360Get with the times, gramps
Patch when?
>>500306952Right now.
>>500297653I've never seen more than 2 other people in a zone in HC. With the way zones work there are fewer than 200 hardcore D4 players worldwide.
>>500302292>missed another but then got onenot big stuff but its somethin
>>500307201Let's be honest, in this day and age there aren't many people interested in HC compared to 20 years ago. It used to be an achievement of some sort but now nobody really gives a fuck anymore.
Soooooooooo where the FUCK is my free shit? I don't see anything in game (plus my game just crashed.)
>>500307685halloween event has been postponed (because it caused crashes)
>>500308272I'm a HCfag so I'm glad I crashed in town at least. There was no free item in the shop though so I don't think the event has even started....
>We are seeing this hitting quite a few clients so we will look at solutions and possibly a rollback and will update once we have more.It's over.
>>500305360I would keep playing if Blizzard made a proper auction house system so I don't have to deal with third world bots and dupers. I can't be bothered to use that diablo. trade jank
>>500308727>and possibly a rollbackwah
>>500309410For all the ded HCfags
>>500309510Probably hornlets anyway, no one cares about hornlets
no free shit for you
>>500309942Tejal my gypsy wife, why do this?
Thinking about buying that $150 Lilith art bros.
Does the Blizzard patcher freeze and lock up anyone elses computer? I swear they are doing some kernel level shit with these patches.
>>500310772Works on my PC™
>>500310772VARIOUS STABILITY IMPROVEMENTS SAARS. PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS AND TURN OFF DLSS.
Mucus eggs are going for 10,000g a pop, they really need to figure out how to balance that summon material
>>500310772no but they crash my session every time there is a hotfix
>>500255205remember when it was going to come out before D4?
>people actually think a console focused casual game made by Tencent will supplant D4Oh no no no no no!
>>500320893but d4 is also a console focused casual game?
>>500320893why can't we have 2 casual ARPGs at the same time?seasons/leagues are only fun for like a week or two at most anyways
>>500321695BRO, I JOINED THIS TRIBE TO DEFEND IT UNTIL MY DEATH !!!1
So, to be clear, the event is just "1 free shop item per day, 35% increased exp, 50% increased gold, and shrines summon burning butcher"? There's nothing else?
>spooky season>no free to play week>not even free to play weekendBlizzard really wants d4 to fail, don't they?
>>500310186What did you do with her finger?
>>500325645Yee bruddah yee.
>>500324815Looks like you either get Burning Butcher, 1x treasure goblin that drops a worthless treasure bag (2 account-bound leggos), or 3x treasure goblin that drops the same.
Any of you started playing PD2 yet...
>>500320893It's because they (rightly) hate corpo blizzard so much that they don't want to give Diablo4 a W. But deep down, they (the poe players, the devs) know full well that D4 is infinitely superior to PoE.
>sold a 4GA max roll aspect paingorger's for 10 billionfeels nice
>>500329058What are you going to do with the money, anon?
>no Halloween cosmetics in the shopMissed opportunity for pay piggies.
>Tyrael's Might>Doombringer>no Ring of Starless SkiesMy build is almost complete.
What is the cheapest version of d4 and what content is it missing?
Still wondering what the point of D4 endgame isLike what are we trying to achieve
Can't believe that none of you itt can rush me in PD2.
>>500331851To kill things efficiently to get better gear to kill things more efficiently to get better gear...
>>500247880Do NOT post this FAS downy here
>>500329058Where does all the gold originate from?People ITT say to trade runes for gold, but the gold must come from somewhere.Do people just buy gold for irl money to pay for in-game items with gold?
>>500332170some do RMTothers sell many small things to get big gold to buy big thing
Saars, i redeemed the free horse !
>>500331076save up for a max GA helm (50 billion)
>>500331076>>500333858LMAOOOOO NEVERMIND THIS JUST DROPPED!
>no max resource+max life GA combo>50 billionI don't even know why things are worth anything anymore.
So this chinese pit 150 record holder is hacking his gear and they just keep him up there?
>>500335369What?
>>500334371bretty nice
nobody walks anymore
>Diablo4 has a miserable micro bug that the devs fix in 3 days.>The whole Internet is screaming at it, forums are on fire, reddit is full of doomers.>PoE2 has been delayed for over two years, with a launch announcement every two months and then a postponement every two months, PoE1 only has two leagues/seasons a year, literally a load of crap>The internet sucks gggHow unfair
>>500334371inb4 anon temper bricks it
remember that retard that couldn't figure out how to play spiritborn
>>500346451That's what happens when maxroll fills their guides with word salad to make it look big which makes everyone skip past the actual mechanics.
>>500346451>>500346557Torchlight 1 is literally more fun than Diablo 4I went one dungeon before I was bored of D4I played Torchlight just now for over 2 hours before I had to take a break
>>500343896tempering went well actually thanks
>>500347751We don't play Diablo for the fun. We play it for the atmosphere, the lore, the stories, the gameplay. You can of course like marvel DC cartoon rpg but understand that Diablo4 is not the same.
>>500348583Diablo 4 is like a husk of what Diablo used to be. It's not even as good as D3. Lmao. This game needs lots of work
>>500099928most of that are trannies and hr spooks to suck up as much investor money as possible and pump fake metrics for esg ratings
>>500094853Is this still accurate?What tier is /d4g/?
>>500341695>people are retardedwhat else is new
>>500348583i do
>>500348583I think Aspects were a bad decision. They add variety to a build I guess, but they confuse me because of the way they're set up and not fully explained by the game. They're unintuitive, and when I get a new item sometimes I forget to change the aspect, so I gimp myself for a while. Just little things about this game pester me that it's nice to go back to simpler times with Torchlight 1
>>500349204d2core is the best as thats where all the other guides eventually come from.
ANCIENT CHINESE SECRETIf you spiritniggers are having trouble (which you shouldn't) you can try this exploit/trick. It's 10 days old so I don't know if it still works.>Acquire a Necromancer>Log in>Take a piece of Armor than can hold a Defense + Utility Temper>Temper Defense -> Profane Cage -> Spiked Armor>Temper Utility -> Thorn Army -> Spiked Amor>Try for max rolls>Masterwork this piece>Keep MW/Rerolling until you Crit on Spiked Armor>Spiked Armor Crit gives Crit value to BOTH slots>Throw in stash, swap to SpiritBorn>Re-Temper to Max Resource + Barrier Generation>Now you have both those Tempers at Max Value Max Crithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpFJWFbbl4
>>500349204around G or H
>>500349473kek i can't tell if you've just been pretending this whole time and it's a bit, or if you are severely mentally retarded
>>500350032I'm lazy
>412 posts>1 single mention of druid>at least a dozen of others and 44 spiritnice game
>>500350807consume
I highly recommend Torchlight 1 and 2 also. Torchlight 1 is surprisingly fun upgrading your gear as you go through the game
>>500350807aren't druids the joke of every diablo game
>>500349204S = noneA = Beavis builds aka chinksB = mobaC = maxrollD = redditFFF+ = the rest
Fuck you treasure gobbo you fucking nigger
>>500349593>that retard againat least he's spreading the chinese shit
>>500354146>he didn't read the patchnotes>isn't aware of the new eternal scroll to reroll GA
>>500358378>eternal scroll to reroll GAda fuck are you talking about
Feels good knowing that I'll probably never get an ancestral amulet with at least 2 passives on it.Probably.
>>500358378The fuck you on about?
I can't believe that Diablo IV actually won and BTFOd PoE2. What went right?
>>500350807>>500352764Druids are unkillablehttps://www.youtube.com/ity58RuhrMA?si=vLqb_qLrznIr4GSp
Ayeeeeee embed failhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ity58RuhrMA
might do the tenets of akarat to get the lion bros
>>500369726i don't play pooid why is this happening?
>>500369726hmmmm
Is the Halloween event worth coming back for? Did they increase the Ancestral rates like the goblin event?
>>500358378>heIts MA'AM
>>500374827fuck no
>>500374827>Is the Halloween event worth coming back for?kino cosmetics, so yes
Where's all the damage coming from with the Crushing fist setup vs Quills? Is it the chance for double cast?
btw new twitch cosmetics (druid)
>>500380240i have datmodz on and got mine
Does anyone know rune prices? I need Lith runes and ive got most other runes. What is a fair 1 to 1 exchange?
>>500381646bout 3.50
>>500381646based on completed sales on diablo.trade it looks like 30-45 million a pop
>>500370030Ancient native merrican Druid techIt's one of the Shapeshifting passives after you get enough passive ranks
>died against mother's judgment with only a minute on the timer when she only had 1/16th (or less) health left in a p130fug i'm no where near 150 and i thought my shit was bretty gud
Can you buy d4 keys cheap somewhere?
You know what sucks about Diablo 4 that no one talks about? There's no weight to the combat. Barbarian is probably the only class that feels like you're actually hitting something because of the weight of attacks like HOTA, but every other attack in the game is like slicing through butter. There is no indication of crits hitting harder than standard damage or anything that tells the player that you're actually hitting monsters with your damage. PoE has crits that shake the screen and stuff. D4 has none of this.D4 Bad
>>500394857If you hit with enough damage you can disrupt enemy animations. You aren’t paying attention. I’m not taking any PoE player’s criticism seriously regarding combat feedback or visual design. Truly laughable.
>>500394857retard
>>500395296based
>Don't want to do bosses solo because it feels ineficcient>Don't want to do rotas because i'm autisticIt's so over
>>500399195i will play with you
>>500391116Not for the moment, battlenet/steam are still the best price, maybe wait for the black friday deal or for the mid season
>>500399195just join some in party finderi did like two dozen and ppl rarely talked, or it was one guy telling the order of summons
is diablo.trade not working?
>>500399195most people playing have some form of autism, if you just join a group in party finder you can just "talk" through emotes and no one will care, most don't even do that, only someone typing which boss to fight next and that's it.
>>500411264looks normal to me
Is he right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amnk-ek5aYE
>>500413992The only person who's ever going to be right is the one who yells from the mountaintops "D4 Bad!"
>incense>opal>elixir>+35% for event>still takes 15 pit 120 runs to level up from paragon 157
>>500416112How fast can you do them?
>>5004175834 minutes
>>500418159Might be faster xp gainz to do something you can clear in like 60 seconds since most of the xp is from boss kill. I believe in you
>>500418371not sure it's possible to do a 60 second run on any level
>>500416112>>500418159isnt 100-110 "exp meta"? should be much faster, so prolly more exp per hour
>>500418953dropped to 110 and I have the same clear time, it isn't a matter of killing shit it's a traversal issue I guess
>>500420351>it's a traversal issue I guessmaybe lower something dps and change something to more movement then
Are we going to talk about how there's no weight to the combat and every attack feels like sticking a hot knife through runny butter?D4 Bad
>>500424372No
So uhhhh have you guys started playing PD2 yet?
>>500426564Did they find a way to 'upgrade' mod servers to D2R?I used to play PoD sometime before D2R came out and im not sure if i can go back to old looks+gameAnd i started TL-I S6
>>500426908A couple of things for you lil bro since you're my guy and all. D2R is extremely fugly and only a brain damaged zoomer would disagree. It's also just a skin, so yes it's possible to mod it, except it's illegal and they can't do it. As for looks PD2 has an entire new glider and the game runs in wide screen in multiple resolutions with loot filters and a million shading/upscaling/etc options to keep the classic soulful art style and direction, while also making it look great on modern displays. New season literally started on Friday so now's the best time to play. There's also group content like dungeons we can do as a thread. We can also rush and help each other.What's TL-I?
>>500428591Yeah, i am gonna keep playing d4
>>500428591>wide screen in multiple resolutionsThat sounds okay. PoD also had little improved graphics but (when i played it longer ago) no widescreen or much higher resolutions. It had lootfilters too and some decent extra stuff. Maybe i will check PD in some weeks. When im done with Torchlight Infinite. That is a free chinese poe clone with cartoony graphics and some p2w, but its pretty fun. Current patch is hard tho
>>500428789That's just sad.
>>500429010>Torchlight Infinite. That is a free chinese poe clone with cartoony graphics and some p2w, but its pretty funBro stop.
>>500429218No
>insults people in the thread>why is no one playing my shitty game with me???
>>500429042Yeah, for you.Get fucked, nerd.
>>500424372is this a joke?
>12900k>3090>32gb ddr5>still crashing multiple times a daywhen are they going to fix their game? never?
>>500429972>calls game shitty>still goes to it's thread>>500430283I don't feel sadness.
>>500424372>reddit/twitch meme>Are we going to talkNo, we are not
>come to the d4 general to talk about some crummy d2 mod no one wants to playRetard
>>500434401D4 is so bad, bro. Holy fuck get over it. Everybody hates it
>more reddit and twitch memeslamo>everyonerolf even
>>500426564Buy an ad
>>500434853Debunked already. I's just a vocal minority of haters See >>500297653
>>500435465>>500297653Buy an ad
>>500435465It's such a bad game, bro. It really is truly terrible. Tempering is kind of okay, but the rest of the game is ass. It just sucks from top to bottom.From having to do Helltides to be efficient to level, to no weight to the combat, to bad items dropping en masse with no end in sight to the pointless grind.It is such a terrible game, and even Torchlight 1 is a better and more satisfying game than Diablo 4.
Play Torchlight 1 and 2. Torchlight 1 is fun as heckGreat satisfying gameplay with hard-hitting critsCool graphics that hold up wellWay more fun than D4It's sad
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>torchlight fag>pd2 fagWhy are you guys even here?
>Play Torchlight
>>500436884How sad is it that Torchlight gave me more entertainment than Diablo 4? Playing TL was like a breath of fresh air
It is October 30 in Cali now, right?>no Ichorflame Torch Mount Trophyfucking scammers
>>500434713It says Diablo general, retard.>>500435403Buy toothpaste.
>>500437076How sad is it that you keep spamming shitty games here instead of just fucking off?
>>500436809Played them like 20 years go. They okay.But no interest in them now. Maybe 2 in some weeks or so.
>>500437330>d4g>4hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>500437604>>500437649I just play D4 and see the pointless grind. You just sit there and do the same tired dungeon layouts over and over hoping for a 2+GA Ancestral or something really good, but it's a crapshoot as to whether or not you're going to get something because the game doesn't really have a target-farmable drop table. And it takes forever to farm Boss Mats or gold to farm more Bosses for more chances at good items. So you have to keep brainlessly farming boring content for hours on end just to have more attempts at getting good items. What a horrible experienceAnd then at the end it didn't matter because the Season resets
>wtf you have to grind in a grinding gamepeak retard hours
>>500438051That is most ARPGs, bro>TL1+2after the story there is nothing in them
Thoughts on last epoch?
>>500438274>>500438298No way, bros. This type of grinding isn't fun. It's busywork with almost no chance to get what you want. To farm Boss mats you have to do the same content over and over just to have good attempts at Bosses. D2 wasn't like this. No other game is like this.They should make it to where if you can kill the Boss, then you can farm it for the drops you need even if they have to lower the drop rate.Farming Boss Mats sucks ass
Whatever bro. I don't care. I'll leave you alone. Have fun with your game that I hate
>>500438507>No other game is like this.The so called "best modern arpg" PoE (its lame) does that too. And other games copy it. Blame GGG
>>500438274I shouldn't have to grind for 90 hours STRAIGHT to get paragon level 300
>>500440806Good thing you dont have to
>>500440806it's the only legit grind in the game retardafter you've done that, you have almost nothing else to grind on any character you make on that realmthat change plus how difficult it is to get max ancestral aspects is a grind that was much needed
>>500440806You don't HAVE to reach Paragon 300
>>500437768Why doesn't it say Diablo 4 then?
>>500441189>ancestral grind doesn't exist>aspect grind doesn't exist>obducite grind doesn't exist
What's wrong with grinding?Do you guys not have time?
>>500441580>obducite grind doesn't existlmao bro, just do a horde and get like 7k+millions in a day if you wantAncients2.0 and Asspects are lame tho
>>500159105sorry i was the one who homebrewed a crushing hands build while everyone was throwing feathers like fags
Look at my Torchlight dudeI love this game :DThe cozy overworldCan't wait for PoE 2 also. I will join you on Diablo 4 later maybe
torchlight looks too much like wow i prefer gritty looking games for adult dad gamers such as myself
>>500448664It looks too much like league of babies which is much worse.
>item listed>message seller 1 minute after listing>gone alreadyTHE REAL GRIND
>>500448232the art style is too cartoony for my taste.
>>500452142It really grows on you and is fun. I thought the same thing. As soon as you start inventory managing your limited stash space for Embers (gems) that's where the real fun begins
>>500452403>As soon as you start inventory managing your limited stash space for Embers (gems) that's where the real fun beginssounds awful
>>500452513That's the fun bit for guys who really liked D2 and survival horror games as well. It also has music by Matt Uelmen who did Diablo 1 and 2I'm an old school kind of guy. I like D2 and games like it, and this game scratches the itch. I would even say it might be better than the small amount of TL2 I've played.This game is really good
>incessant shitlight shillingI am here to play d4 with anons and that is what i am going to do
>>500453452Torchlight 1 is literally free on GOG
>>500453961Gr8 go play it and fuck off
>>500453002>That's the fun bit for guys who really liked D2 and survival horror games as well.I like both those things but the inventory management is not a pro, is a con that you have to put up with to enjoy the fun parts.
>cleared some stuff with anons from the clan>got some items from themYou guys are alright
>rolled over the stat i tried to get>two timesyikes@me
Just found an Epic Talon Sash Unique that has way better armor and way better attribute contributionLove this gameD4 Bad
>>500441175>>500441380>you don't HAVE to get paragon 300yeah and you don't HAVE to push pits, you don't HAVE to strive for 2+GA with perfect masterwork crits, you don't HAVE to max your aspectsI mean why even play?
Will the game go on sale during halloween?
Why are some legendaries randomly account bound?
>>500456093Their game going on sale during H'ween would be like saying their game is a bargain bin POS. They'll likely eventually go F2P if they keep up their current trend, with future Expansions requiring you to buy them.D4 BadA literal F2P game Torchlight 1 is a much better time than this D4 dogshit
>post item as make an offer>yoooo how much do you want for it?
>>500456005>I mean why even play?for Fun
Blizzard is incompetent, bro. Guess who I've been all this time. Jesus, bro. They need literal Jesus to get them back on track. Nu-Blizzard is an incompetent bunch of fucking fools, bro.Literal Torchlight 1 is a better game than this fucked up disaster called Diablo 4
"Y'all niggas need Jesus" was rightD4 dogshit Holy Goddamn it is bad
>>500456449Common trick to lowball/overball someone
>>500457327Fuck my ass.
>>500418953it's the same as it ever was, you want to do the 1s of the pits you can do in ~90seconds for as long as you can keep your sanity so 81, 91 stopping at 101 because the exp bonus caps at pit 100
>>500457632Jesus was here all this time, bro. It's me. You can suck the penis of Elon Musk who provides nothing for this game, or you can actually like good games. The choice is up to you. Torchlight 1 is a good game. Nu-Blizzard are simply incompetent.They make shit games now.D4 is really, really bad. It's like terrible. It should never have been made.>For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
give it a rest you stupid faggot
>>500458381Play Torchlight 1
>ctrl+f>torch>30 resultsmaybe go play your game?
What you guys think?Good or shit?
fuck off Avatar niggg
>>500459194absolute dogshit I bet.
>>500459397We're so back
>>500456093Doubt, more like black friday or winter sales
>>500458865>didn't think it was real>it's realI for one enjoy the T*rchlight schizoposter. Don't give it a rest.
How is your evening going?I just threw down 2B to not even double crit once the affix I want.
You guys were butthurt at me for trying to put you on a real Diablo game, Diablo 2, but some other penis loving dudes are talking about zoomer TL and you're all of a sudden ok with it. I need to fight someone irl to solve this issue.
>>500461941>>500462895that nig needs to ropeor get a few days again, damn lazy frees
>hey I want X item listed 2 minutes ago>sent 1 minute ago>sure here's my battletag>never seen from again
>>500463804The market just opens up and swallows them, I guess.
>>500463804>someone offered moresuch is life
>>500464247I'm selling
>>500463804THE VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOID, IT SEEPS 'EM AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>500464568>someone listed it for lesssuch is lifeor them died or crashed or thems internet died or something importent came up or something i dunno
If the delve into Diablo was Hell through the iterations, from 1, to 2, to 3, to 4, then Torchlight is the (Torch)light that's taking me out of the darkness of Hell. This game is a masterpiece.Diablo 4 badI'm going to order a t-shirt of Torchlight. I love it that much
I'm p196 and haven't had the faintest whiff of a mythic or a decent 3+ GA, and I think I actually like this a lot more than last season when I got fully kitted in like 3 days. But if I don't get something going soon I might have to do some gay-ass ROTAs. Thanks for reading my DiaBLOG.
>>500464873I'm 262, only 1 2GA and I still missing an ancestral slot because I haven't found an upgrade or even rolled the desired stats yet.
>little or late hellborn picksMan this game respects the FUCK out of my time.
>>500464873>>500465979I found two 3GA weapons today
Torchlight 1 is so good that it shouldn't even be whispered in the same breath as Diablo 4. The same as that real bacon should not be whispered in the same breath as imitation bacon or crab on a great salad.
>>500466934way to ruin them with those tempers
>>500464873>196>whining about 3GAs and mythics alreadylmao, fuck off
>>500468029I swear these people only look for the absolute bis items then complain when they don't get them.
>>500467867Thanks I needed them for my build nigger
Torchlight 1 is so good that it shouldn't even be whispered in the same breath as Diablo 4. The same as that real bacon should not be whispered in the same breath as imitation bacon or crab on a great salad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GSVpEpSQA4&list=PLEB8FA1CFB803024C&index=2
>no relist option on diablo.tradefucking garbage, I have to go into each listing, edit it, and repost it?
>>500471319Being a capitalist is hard, comrade
did my akarat statues and it was lame as fuck half of them are bugged to shit
>>500466767for me it's spires i love spires!
>>500471319why relist? edit it
>>500466767spin2win rogue and sb can salvage fubar runs, ls sorc too probably
>>500466767just restart or so
>>500471491Being capitalist is hard when every man wants the same thing but the thing is far off. It's annoying, but the people who play this game and want easy trading have to make overblown trades to get something going. There is NO TRADE SYSTEM in the game as of yet. They have not released a meager trade system for players, but they use outside sources. What the fuck is that about?Stupid assholes overall. Waste of time.
>tfw still haven't done dark citadel yet>have a powerful character but don't want to burden others to teach megrim
>>500474929Play Torchlight. It's singleplayer and a much better game than this mess called Diablo 4
>>500474929It's really not that hard so long as you have at least 1 of the 3 others with a brain. You should do it before the limited mount expires.
>>500475528login and run me through bro
>>500475332Just play Minesweeper instead, it's a much more engaging game than Torchlight tbqhf
>>500475926Shame, World Series Game 5 starting now.
>spicswinggrim
>>500474929It's rare to find a group that is incapable of clearing the bosses in a few tries.
>>500475972It's not that hard. The game is WINDING UP OH
>>500479502thanks, i just watched a video it seems like i can just float a long for the first couple until i get the hang of it. damage and survivability won't be an issue.
>>500463804>>500464247>>500464568>>500464735>>500471319>>500473475>you didn't beat the gamei bet yall cant even beat pit 100 lmao my ass offyou're worse than people who play WoW for the auction house
>>500450445i lost a few item because to slow the last days too :\
>>500484709140, actually, and all on self found stuff. I only sell shit because quite frankly I cannot afford the stuff I want
>>500484709not quoted here but 130 for me. need to switch to overpower soon
>>500494310OP is not stronger desu, more or less equal in power. Aspect levels are the real deal and a bitch to get
>still farming gold in WoW in order to buy D4+VoH and to be able to pay somes WoW subs too
>>500497687Soon anon, soon
>>500497543fug. i could barely muster 130 but i did have SHIT spider mobs in my second floor
Why are there so many uniques that no builds use?
>>500475332Fuck torchlight and that shitty millennial Pixar brainrot art style
>>500501409many are a year old and many were never good because the art team is much better than the design team
>>500501409because you only use builds copied from a website
>>500501409A lot of Uniques from the start of the game are just weak and solve issues for that era of the gameWho the fuck would use Tassets of the Dawning Sky when fucking Yens Blessing and Rakanoths Wake exist?This goes even further with class specific Uniques like Tempest/Vasilys helms and Fury/Glee armors on Druid.What those items do a simple passive node or unique class mechanic can do, freeing up the class to be easier to build out like Spiritborn
Would it be possible to model swap the d2r amazon with the Mercenary Rogue model?
Is this the last thread...
Why do all the top spiritborn quill volley builds leave the +10% damage nodes alone?
>>500508641>steamdisingenuous retard. but maybe kek
>>500509218the one i'm using picks them up in garbage time post 260, idk about the rest
>>500509218Probably because it's additive damage as opposed to multiplicative. It doesn't have as much value as other nodes
The worst grind as SSF is gold by far god fucking damn it sick of getting shit on by master working
>>500516490https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smgbL4pYZBE
>>500516490https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_K4s4Pn_s
>>500521419>40k obduciteit's literally nothing
>>500522408Torchlight 1 is a better game than Diablo 4
>the retard's back
Is there any content you are missing if you don't have vessel of hatred?Besides the dragonborn class.
