crutches edition>Previous>>500050057>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/>NEWSSep 17: 60-Day Patch 1 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7147864422081646859Sep 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXisOct 15: 60-Day Patch 2 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7291982050853715743Oct 31: Truth Enforcers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m053YyNixug>CURRENT WARBONDSep 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXis [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
first for AC users are dumb as a rock
Great. Now we have two threads.
this piece of shit is the only thing that i actually kick on sight for
>>500157965>[Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]honestly based
>>500158226I block anybody that takes mortar to bugs.I've actually been seeing the machine gun turrent LESS since the buffs rather than more.
Lobby?
>>500158336Hag
>>500158226On 7 or lower its pretty good
lobbysteam://joinlobby/553850/109775240937389336d102/4
>>500158226>machine gun sentrywtf?ac, gatling and mortar i could understand but mg is based>lasts forever>pops heads of devs>designated crotch cleaning station for rocket striders>pulls aggro away from you for a second>can call one in every minute or soit's great bang for for your buck
>>500158580It's really good for the aggro pull alone. Kills AND gives you an escape.
>>500158226>>500158580this is actually supposed to be the gatling but i'm drunkthe mg is great
>>5001585573/4
How much were barrages buffed? Or were they always good in that role of making a big bot drop/bug breach way easier to clean up?
>>500158763yeah fair enoughapologize to the mg turret
>>500158557full
>>500159039blocked
>>500158763gattling is bis on bugs what u on about mate
>>500158763Did... Did a scavenger just spawn behind you? OOOOOOH I'M TUUUURNIIING
What is THE default loadout?What would John Helldiver actually use to dive?
>>500159886Liberator RiflePeacemaker PistolHigh Explosive Grenade (This is the stock grenade, not Frag)Eagle AirstrikeOrbital Precision StrikeExpendable Anti-Tank or Machine GunMachine Gun SentryAnything else is sacrilege.
>>500159886Default newbie loadout is Liberator, Peacemaker, HE grenade, MG43 and OPS.That's it.
>>500160037It's impressive how well EATs and P-Strike hold up into high difficulty.
>Ugh, why does the Constitution suck so muchBecause it's free and requires no grind to get :)
>>500161164Just like your mom. :)
>>500161164It's a joke weapon. You use it as a handicap because it's funny. Do people playing Helldivers of all games not understand the appeal of goofy handicaps?
>try to matchmake for helldives>puts me into a 6I get one tier up or down, but c'mon now, that's just World of Warships tier.
>>500161773It's just sticking you where you belong.
>>500158226muh brrt
>>500161835:(
i started yesterday. what weapon should i unlock first? i am not very good just looking for most braindead effective option
>>500162125Liberator P. and Recoilless solves every single issue you will face
>>500161585>if Constitution sucks>"Erm, its a joke weapon its supposed to be bad">if Constitution is overpowered>"Erm, its a free celebratory weapon, that's the point of it"I'm a faggot and even I don't dickride this hard
>>500162327It's the Dan Hibiki of weapons, it doesn't need to be top tier for D10s to have a place.
>>500161164Going by that logic all weapons from premium warbonds should be OP as fuck
>>500159528imagine if we had customisation menu for turrets where we could chose target priority, range and angle of fire
>>500161164Looking forward to plasma shooting nukes
>>500162538>ping turret>it will stop firing>ping enemy>will engage >ping nothing, will wait to be pinged again to pick targets A man can dream
>>500162319which bond is it?
>>500162719The first one, I think like page 7 or 8
>>500162847thx king. what else should i prioritize?
>>500162942Doesnt matter, after that you just slot in whatever is fun
>>500162942Diligence CS, crossbow, thermite grenade are all fantastically useful right now
>>500162942P-Strike, EAS, Recoilless, and MG Sentry can carry you really far.
>>500163064Why's the CS good now? Buffed handling? Better at avoiding aggro?
Here's how the SOS beacon works.>Makes your lobby high priority for quickplay searchers>Makes your lobby-icon pulse on the planet interfaceHaving it turn your private lobby into a public one is fucking retarded. Anyone arguing otherwise needs to kill themselves as soon as possible.Acting like you can't accidently the SOS beacon instead of a reinforce is you being a little nigger and should refer to previously stated commands.
>>500163363I have accidentally the SOS beacon multiple times. At least make the code different than the reinforce.
lobbies?
>>500158557ggs! polish internet strikes again
>>500162125Just work your way down the list. Focus on getting the Hellpod Optimization and Vitality Boosters. Then Stamina Booster. Get whatever armor, and weapons you need to unlock these. All emotes and cosmetics are secondary to achieving this goal.Your ultimate goal with the free warbond is to get the Scorcher.
it's crazy how much different the erad map with the crane and the one with the tower are in terms of enemy spawns
>>500163363>Having it turn your private lobby into a public one is fucking retardedIt does not do this. I see plenty of SOS beacon lobbies that are private.
GIVE ME A MAJOR ORDER OR GIVE ME DEATH
>>500162125you literally unlock shit in orderunless you buy sc how do you plan to unlock something specific?
Is light armor engineering kit for shitters?I got kicked from a d10 bug pug because of it
>>500164314Being able to see private lobbies is also retarded thougheverbeit.
Which one?
>>500162125everything in the standard warbond (10 pages).try them all out. some are better than the others, but its better if you try them all out. see what you like the best.
>>500165240they both suck major ass.strafing, airstrike, napalm, walking, gas>but you have to choose!then 500kg unless you have another eagle already, then OPS.
>>500165240both if you're redmaxxingops if you only meed it to destroy detector towers
>>500164841did U3 just get annihilated by that Anti-Tank mine you walked past at 0:02?that's too funny.
>>500165206I agree. Private lobbies should not appear on the map. There should also be a dedicated lobby refresh feature.
>>500165163what do you mean by pug?the dog?a pickup game? like a lobby-site?a 4chan lobby?a hd discord lobby?
>>500164313It she tower map still in the game? I have not played on it in at least two months. And I fucking hate the map with the crane.
>>500165708public game
>>500165520NTA, but what happened is likely>airburst hits AT mine while U3 is walking over it>dies
>>500163341Just all-around excellent stopping power and damage potential at range
>>500163341Buffed it to where it could 1 tap devs in the head a while back and has been a top pick on bots since.They have also kept buffing it.
>>500158115higher skill ceiling than RG and AMR at leastbackpacks still aren't worth skipping the best support weapon for
>>500166212never heard anyone refer to a public match as pug beforeand to answer your question, no, no sane player cares about what shit you bring to the mission unless it is firebomb hellpods (actively trolling).you just had a control freak host who is so shit at the game he needs 3 god gamers to carry his fat ass, and you werent a god gamer so you got the boot
>>500165708pug = pick-up group
Needs an update
>>500167116>backpacks still aren't worth skipping the best support weapon forHe is talking about AC not RR, you silly goose.
>>500163341>Oneshots all the little cyborg guys>Kills devs in 1 headshot or 3-4 feetshot>Kills berserkers in 1 headshot or 3 abdomen shots>Breaks MG devs gun in 2 shots>Kills chickens in 4 shots to the dick
>>500167382Hows it on bugs now with all the Hive Guard, Spewers, and Alpha Commanders? I've been thinking of running it now that I'm starting to do more D9-10 bugs.
>>500167368No. It's perfect as is.
>>500167537its not very good.medium bugs should be dealt with support weapons, sentries and reds.not your primary
>>500159886>Slugger>Verdict >Light armor stealth >Jump pack>Rocket sentry >Commando>Hmg emplacement >Thermite
>>500167378strongest =/= bestRR can be fully supplanted by a bunch of EATs
>>500167764he asked for John Helldiver, not Cuck McDemocracy
>>500167537Dunno, i don't do bug missions.
>>500167861John heldiver doesn't rely on pussy eagle or orbital strikes, he gets shit done himself. The exact opposite of a cuck.
>>500167764Not closing many bug holes with that build, Cuck McContrariandiver.Looks like you're gonna get hard carried.
>>500167996>it's a "pretend greens aren't every bit as braindead at reds" episode
>>500160037MMG + EATs, ditch the sentry.I also think taking the constitution rifle with this would be fitting.
What is a good red to run with 2 greens? I was thinking a 120mm barrage or 500kg
>>500168498>botsEAS or walking or gas, maybe strafe run. definitely not either of the options you said>bugsstrafe eagle, napalm barrage, napalm eagle, gas, maybe 500 if you need AT.definitely not 120meme barrage
>>500168498EAS is always good.
>>500168207I'm mainly a bot diver and I always carry my team of randos.
>>500168498500kg, airstrike, strafing runall three are quite versatile and will help with base wrecking
How safe are mortars for bots? The bots stand around and shoot, but also you can get rushed by berserker mobs and get friendly fired like you would with bugs.
>>500168915post career
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240946169407/d10 bots
Hi guys, Pilesdtgajvz from Arrowhead here. Straight to the point, we're kinda fucked and have no idea how to translate the mindfuckery of the Illuminates to Helldivers 2 so give us ideas. The best one gets to smash Alexus kneecaps with a sledgehammer.
>>500168957Mortar is much better for bots than bugs.
>>500168957mortars are never safethey are inaccurate so even if bots don't come close to you, they will still hit you randomly
>>500169065When I get home, just went 96-0 on super helldive blitz mission last night.
>>500168957i personally kick regular mortar users from my lobby on both factionsEMS mortar is fine
>>5001690812/4 join JOIN
>>500169103hide player icons and switch their skins to squids
>>500169103You know they'll just bring back that modifier that fucked your stratagem inputs. Forgot the name.
>>500169103Instead of fucking with controls and giving like a quarter of the playerbase nausea and a headache, make them spawn fake copies of enemies that only the one affected player can see.
>>500169103>invert movement keys, including strat callins>invert "grenade" and "stim" keys>weapons "lock-on" to friendly targets, and "move away" from enemy targets
>>500168957Generaly ok but if you get berzerker seeds you're gonna do alot of TKingAdditionally in the tower defense mission it can hit people in the walls while targeting bots, i've seen my share of people blowing the mortars up after it happened one too many times
>>500159886Lib/Peacemaker/HE MadeDefault B-01 tactical armor and capeOPS/MG-43/Eagle Air Strike/EATEAT interchangable with MG turret or Supply Pack. EAT is the only thing that isn't level 1 but with OPS changes your anti tank is basically just the eagle strikes which have also become unreliable at tank killing.
>>500169103mirror the player's screen without changing any of the HUD placements
>>5001690813/4stop shitpostingcome kill bots
Would you bring orbital ems if it could stun striders and bile titans?
>week long filler MO
>>500169065It's simple>Stealth to sneak around>Jump pack for mobility >Hmg for gunships and hulks >Sentry for drop ships and tanks>Thermite and commando for fabricators at distance >And hmg for the fodder and cover teammates at rangeStriders are a pain but the hmg for the face guns, and commando for the turret up top and teammates take out the rest.
NEW MO DROPPEDDEFEND 5 BOT ATTACKSTAKE 3 PLANETS
>>500170171Orbital EMS is already a comfy stratagem.It would be cool if it could stun those units, but even in D10 they are fairly rare, so it doesn't really change its utility by much.
>New MO >take Matar Bay>we haven't finished Aesir Pass >bots attacking 2 planets at once>also take bug planets lolSweet Liberty high command fuckin chill.>6 daysOh a filler MO ok nvm.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240946169407/bots 103/4
>>500170515Look like an actual hard one. I will stick to the bot front for this one. Vacation in Phact Bay over.
>>500170419>expecting a double bot defense to succeed>also have to take bot planets which take a week+ to cap at the same timescripted fail
>>500170776Actually we have to finish Phact Bay first, since Terminid Park is a DMZ and can't be used as a supply line
>take 3 planets and win 5 defenses>in 6 daysYah, nah. Not happening. Requires too much coordination for The Blob.
no fucking way we are winning this one. We cant even handle two attacks
>>500170880I think it's doable. Bugdivers are the blob so that will be done no issues. Bot front gets tricky. None of the decays or attacks are actually that bad. I think the move is to stay the course on Aesir until it's done, then move to Matar Bay. Meanwhile, forfeit the current 2 defenses, then succeed on 1 every day while taking Matar Bay.
I'm going to keep diving Vog sojoth becouse i like the snow biome.
>>500171358aside from the last jet brigade run which was rigged, bot defenses never succeed without the blob just based on numbers
>>500165240500Damage Impact2000, 1500 explosion10 inner / 25 outerprecision3500 impact / 1000 explosion4 inner / 12 outerlike 20 second difference cool down, 500 gives you two and a bigger radius. It's easily 500. precision has zero breakpoints it beats.
>bots have taken 3 sectors in the span of a monthso much for all that progress
>>500171874If Joel plays this like he normally does over long MOs, the defenses will get easier the further the bots push. So those last attacks will be wimpy, and we can hopefully mop up more towards the end.
Constitution status?
Clean it up MO jannies, I'm sure you'll win this one without Joel throwing you pity scraps 48 hours before the end
>>500163341one taps small bits anywhereone taps devs on a headsomething like 4 taps devs on a body (don't really know exact ttk)3 taps chickenscan magdump gunships but you really shouldn't because it takes too much ammo and time, unless you have no other optionit really is very strong both as a sniper and as self-defense weapon because it staggers bots hard and you can hipfire anything below hulks to the death in half a mag
Defense part of this mission isn't that important, so are capturing the bug planets. Only thing that benefits us is capturing Matar Bay
>>500171358it really depends on the rates joel setslooking at the objective it doesn't seem he wants you to complete itwhich means he will set impossible rates if he has to
>>500172124will get goated through the upcoming weapon customization feature
>>500171323Matarfags and Aesirtards need to stop and get the defenses done.
>>500158557said private server for me
Oh, the bot didn't expand toward Arturian to eventually meet the bug. Kinda lame
>>500172561They scrapped weapon customization when they realized they can sell slight variations of guns in warbonds
>>500172662Not this set. Next set. We have time.
>>500158226>this piece of shit>it and an ac turret can duo breeches
>>500172727It stupidly kinda makes sense. We had territory that bordered Cyberstan for like, months at this point.
>>500172903>he thinks he will complete more than 1 defense per daydefense needs to be completed but we should focus one, though we need intel on which one is faster (probably equal)
>>500170171I'd bring it if A. 70 second cooldown + INSTANT impact the moment you throw itorB. Eagle napalm radius with the range
>take my shower>make my coffee>do some light cleaning>set the laundry to go>tidy my desk>make eggs and toast for breakfast>Equip Constitution and HD1 armor>get comfortable and dive Aesir Pass the rest of the dayAs long as there's still divers there, anyway. Other than that it's joining the botblob on Matar Bay and wait for Joel to punish us for not finishing Aesir. What a good day to dive.
AESIR PASS IS LOSTahahahaha joel wins again
I hate the galactic war so much, what a dogshit fucking system
>>500173446I wonder if the blob will abandon phact bay too.
So howmany days before MO wagies start crying for bugchads to help them?
>>500173212They both need ~10k. Botfags should pick one and do it. Matar Bay can be done gradually, but bugfags will be occupied with taking three planets until then.
>>500173431>>make eggs and toast for breakfastHello Me.I like mine fried, with runny yolks and with a healthy dashing of https://www.tonychachere.com/product/original-creole-seasoning/ on top with two slices of buttered toast.Just had a plate. Delicious.
>>500173729No because that also need to take Pandion and Gacrux.
>>500174007they*
All this MO strategy planning is pointless as getting the playerbase to coordinate correctly is impossible. This MO is fucked, go play on planets you like.
>>500173806>Matar Bay can be done graduallyit's stupid, when you pause it regenerates
>>500174185This, all galatic war stuff is rigged anyway.
>>500172698>2 hours 50 minutes after the lobby post>i cant joingee i wonder why
why is every pub has localized confusion user, no matter bugs or bots
>>500174503its the meta.youtuber says take itnpc takes it
>>500174248Its just one planet dude. It can be done in 1-2 days and you have 6. You need 5 defenses done. Get at least one done now so the rest of the botfags aren't split trying to get last minute defenses done and risk failing.
>>500174674Haven't the bug divers been going at phact bay for ages now?
>>500174434>>500174185I like playing on the MO planets or in a planet that is strategically relevant like Aesir. That is how I derive my enjoyment.
>>500172662>>500172903>>500173212>>500173806We need to win 5 defenses in 6 daysFIVEIf they're all gonna be 24h defences then we'll need about 40-50% of the playerbase engaged each time to win one defenceSucceeding at two defences at once is basically impossible because it would take at least around 90% of total players online to do itWe kinda need to start racking up those defence wins ASAP to even have a chance of clearing this MO, and always defend once planet at a time if they have the same timing like this
>>500174821They're a few hours from finishing, but they still need to do it because it is the warp link to pandion, which is the warp link to gacrux. So until gacrux is done, bugfags are tied up. Which is why it's imperative for botfags to get a few defenses done early and worry about matar bay later so everyone isn't split towards the end.
>>500169103>make the player hallucinate dangerous sound effects nearby when affectedMake reinforcement spawns switch between:>if players are within a certain radius of an enemy calling in a drop, have light units teleport in really close to players while elite units come in close to the call-in point>in a smaller radius, make the entire reinforcement group teleport in at the same time evenly spaced out>same as above, but its a very rare fake-out that spawns either nothing or random objects
>41k on a monday morningNot bad. Not bad at all.
>>500175259Phact might be more important, the blob doesn't understand supply lines or unlocking planets so they need help getting started on Pandion
>>500175259>>500175503It's true that there's no rush with Matar but right now it looks a lot like both of these defences will fail and will probably continue to fail until Matar is taken because the retard patrol is already crowding it.
>>500175307I think people dropped it and didn't come back after the nerfs even with the 63 day patch. They tried liberty day and noticed the changes and are back on board.
>13 fucking planets on the bot frontwhy yes, split that playerbase some more, gotta make sure they can't do anything outside of MOs
>>500175927Yeah. The shitty door prize was just an excuse to lure people back to see that the game has been fixed since they let Alexus fuck it up.We've also got a new Warbond coming in a few days. A good looking Warbond at that.
>>500176692>A good looking Warbond at that.Not sold on it yet franklyThe aesthetic is good but it's an open question whether any of the actual gameplay aspects will deliver properly
>>500176280we need a new DM who has even a basic understanding of war logistics, at this point the bots should have 0 or a negative percentage regen on the outer planets at bare minimum
alexus was right
>>500177119Fuck off back to s*rbia you little shit
>>500176943The purifier pistol and aesthetics alone are worth it IMO, I'm really hoping the shotty isn't a bust.
>BOTTARDS already fucking this MO and they can't blame BUGGODS this time
media literacy status?
>>500177595Executions are based
This is the perfect troll MO to create maximum infighting between bugdivers, botdivers, and MOdivers.It's impossible to complete even with perfect coordination, but that doesn't stop the "groups" from blaming each other for the inevitable failure.
>>500177595>noooo super earth are the bad guys ! look at the peaceful robots turning humans to paste ! they're just misunderstood !
>>500176943AP3 SMG.EMS+flechette SGPurifier pistolNew armor passive.It's the booster that's of questionable value, but boosters are kinda worthless outside of the big three + situational.
>>500177723I blame no one other than Joel and his sorry excuse of GMing in this game
>constitution against bugs>kino, fun, ez clap>constitution against bots>mostly useless, can oneshot devs in the head and that's the highlight
>>500177595We are the good guys.
>>500177736seriously why are the bots making man-smoothies
>>500178115based and correct opinion, death to all ISA fools
>>500174674it takes like 3 days if you focus itit will surely take a week or two if you go back and forth like you suggest
>>500178121Lube
>>500178065Should have made it heavy pen with current damage IMHO.
>>500177851>AP3 SMG.>EMS+flechette SG>Purifier pistol>New armor passive.I mean all of those sound potentially pretty nice but until I see them in action (or at least get more info on how they perform) the jury is out
>>500178115>been feeling the urge to buy a VHS-2 riflePlease stop, I don’t know how much longer I can resist.
>>500152584Best bot support weapon. Instantly kills hulks if you use recoil armor. Just need to learn how to aim.
>>500178519Well after chemical brapfare, it's going to be a huge step up.
>5 days to take 3 planets and defend 5 othersAnother MO rigged to fail, unless those planet defenses are like 150k HP we're never gonna do it
>>500178519bugshitters will be running stun grenade + stun shotty and it will be so funny
>>500178921lib conc users gonna freak once the shotty dropstheir A tier weapon is in jeopardy
it's so over
>>500178780Emplacement is bety
When are they fixing the AC flak fuse?
>>500178801Literal turds would be better than that trash bond
>>500179202=)
>>500179202Working as intended™
>>500179198Emplacement is kinda OP and needs a nerf, and greens in general are kind of broken. Especially against bots.
>>500178862I still don't realize why we should careI'm medal capped, so is everyone else, and the space station is months away regardless of how many MOs are won or lost
By the way the stats for the new guns have been in the files and leaked for a good couple months if anyone wants to look at them.
>>500179183Matar Bay caprate hasn't settled in yet, it's going to more than double from thatWe're definitely gonna lose these first 2 defences though and retarded blobbies are gonna waste a shitton of progress trying to save them after they've already tipped over into impossible
>>500179437Everybody wants to play as a soldier in a facist forever war until they realize the true meaning of the phrase We have always been at war with Eastasia.
>>500179437>and the space station is months awayBut it's like 75% done.There's no way it's more than a month away.
What would an Orbital Brap Barrage do that Napalm Barrage doesn't do better?
Minimum arming distance and impact trigger for Airburst RL when
>>500179917helldiver recreational usage
>>500178801>Still no sterilizer gas clouds>Brap dog is now fucking worthless compared to the new gun RoverHonestly the flamethrower does more with the floor flames than the sterilizer does with its entire kit.
lobby doko
>>500179917well the napalm barrage is woefully inadequate on bots so
>>500179871My gut says around 3-5 more MOs before it's online
>>500179924I have the perfect solution, and its pretty simple. Make it so it fires when you click, and explodes when your releases the click. Bam, you can control the explosion yourself !
Bug player here. After a couple months break I jumped from 9 to 10 diff and the game is a lot easier but I mostly stick to similar loadouts.Are machineguns any good if the rest of the team already has antiarmor covered?I can't get into grenade launcher and the lightning gun isn't my thing. What about flamethrowers?I usually default to railgun for easy commanders and spewersAny easy to read tier list to dodge dogshit weapons would be appreciated
>host keeps getting himself killed running into allied stratagems like tesla towers and barrages>rages and kicks everyone when only the mega hive is left on the mapI'd be mad at getting kicked if it weren't so funny.
>>500180229here's the thingliterally EVERYTHING is good on bugsplay what you have the most fun with.
>>500180229>Are machineguns any good if the rest of the team already has antiarmor covered?Great for controlling chaff and mid-tier threats, just make sure you have some RRs by you to hit the big boys>What about flamethrowers?Ehhhh
>>500179016There are lib conc users!?
>>500180189The thing is supposed to be 4 MO, from the datamines. But this one is a filler
>>500180189>3-5 more MOsthis is probably true because after this MO the next 3-5 ones will just end up being us having to take planets back from the bots
>>500179016This thing competes more with pummeler than anything. Lib conc is honestly pretty solid, sept on bots. But that's just because chicken walkers don't have anything with armor 2 for mag dumping.Cursed thought is that they should make the torso chassis armor 2.
>>500179917Brap bombs don't explode so it should be mostly safe to actually be inside the bombardment radius with the acid immunity armors
>>500179917Spawn anthropomorphic superdestroyer brap hentai.
>>500180091Yeah I don't fucking understand why they didn't let you make clouds with the sterilizer or the brappdogg.What's the point of the gas armor, then? To walk in your own OGS or nades? I do that -away- from myself for a reason; to kill things before they become a problem.
>>500180382Two of them yes
>>500180382yeah, the most famous youtubers all have lib conc in top of A tier on bugs. same with dog breathanything with CC = instantly insane so good, use this oh my god
>>500179917Cooldown
>>500180382nah
>>500179917Throw it into a mega nest or fortress, entire outpost is stunned.Run in with gas armor and quickly close holes/fabs.It'd be like an orbital EMS That you can stim through. It'd actually be kinda great, because you can still kill stuff, and you're not taking that from everyone else.It'd be a 10/10 team strat.
>>500180382I like it, but I also like the constitution. It's pretty strong, I think people just need to stop expecting primaries to do everything and kill everything.
>>500163363>>500163531A competent developer would've made the SOS available while public and unavailable while private. It would also have been possible to enable/disable it mid-session.
>>500180184
>>500180551to be fair, stagger force is hardly optional if you want to pass bug missions without asspainhowever there are weapons that stagger while also doing immense damage, rendering lib conc a complete waste
>>500180536I think they design armor solely if you get clipped by something you don't lose enough health to need to stim.But I think they don't know what they're doing because half the armor actually makes builds works, while others are just nice little bonuses.
lobby?
>>500180939>however there are weapons that stagger while also doing immense damage, rendering lib conc a complete wasteSuch as?
>>500180367Punisher is my beloved but I'm trying to enjoy other primaries.>literally EVERYTHING is good on bugs beam rifle and default liberator were painfully bad when I tried them out>>500180369good to know I'm not considered a griefer then.I bring rocket pods and thermites whenever I'm not using an anti armor support.
armor stats leaked yet?are they just 50/100/150?
>>500181016They don't know what they're doing because they don't play their own game.
>>500181091The warbond is literally not in the files yet, we don't know
Fine if no sissy wants to do it, I will.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240966296328/76561198070044660d10 lobby decide
>>500181059cookout and autocannon come to mind
Liberator concussive will be worthless until they remove the ridiculous push force it has. If it locked a target in place like the pummerler it would be great. But having something jerk backward between every shot makes it hard to sustain fire and makes you waste ammo.Sometimes you will literally push something behind cover.
>run the most useless shit against bugs>whole faction in shambles>run relatively effective stuff against bots>swarmed by everything
>>500181129yeah but the weapon stats are already knowni figured it might also be the case for armors
Remember when you retards thought the Sterilizer was going to be AP6? Why do you keep falling for obviously shit warbonds?
>>500181205Its funny to push them back in fire/gas
>>500180939I think it's primarily just the range that makes it better than most of them. Its got some solid TTK on alphas, and it can chew through chaff. Most other stagger weapons require you to be on top of the enemy for it to work well. Only issue with libconc is that it suffers hard against groups. But there's so many answers to that it's not even close to an issue.Now pummeler on the other hand is a meme gun I'll never get.
>>500181091Looks like light and medium to mePossibly heavy on the red and then medium in the superstore but I expect heavy to be the cash armor
>>500181257>yeah but the weapon stats are already knownPost them
>>500181090>beam rifle and default liberator were painfully bad when I tried them outUse grenades or flame DOT to soften up targets, and have something for alphas.
>>500181090>beam rifleokay it's terrible>default liberatorone of the best guns on bugs hands down.good reload speed good damage, clears chaff and mediums well.
>>500177595Missed opportunity to show them executing a SEAF guy.
>>500181163full
>>500181091Medium red. Light white.I don't know why people can't read when the PSN page says what they do.
>>500181289I was messing with EMS Strike + Fire last night. It was a fun combo.EMS Strike feels like it lasts forever now.
>>500181624>EMS StrikeDid they ever touch it ?
>>500181129retard, they said they were light and medium in the steam announcement for the warbondwhite is light, red is med
>>500181616stats, anon, not tiersI've asked if we know for sure if the armors are >50 for light>100 for medium>150 for heavyor if they've got uneven stats like some we already have, like the infiltrator having 70 armor value while being a light
>>500181105Y'know I wanna say you're wrong. But it took them this major balance patch and playing the fucking game to figure out what they did wrong.
>>500181661No, he's hallucinating
>>500181754Oh lol no idea then.Prob just 50 / 100 because they've given up on that. But it's retarded that flinch armor doesn't actually have armor. When the whole point is to take hits.
>>500181472>>500181491I'll give the liberator another try. I only used it one mission but maybe the rest of the team wasn't pulling their weight and that's why I was constantly low on ammo.
>>500181924Primaries DO suck if you use them by themselves. You need to combo them with reds and grenades.
>>500181661I don't know. I use it maybe once every 4 months. Just felt like it compared to the stun grenade.
>>500182058>Primaries DO suck if you use them by themselves.lmao tell that to crossbow or DCS
>>500182058My punisher and eruptor do just fine on their own thank you.I use grenades and reds for big clusters but I shouldn't need to use them vs a couple warriors
>3 days until flechette shotgun
>>500182460Cross bow is fine, it's basically just a support weapon in a primary slot. Follows the same weaknesses. Could use a nerf to mags though. DCS is in a similar boat. Just really OP and has no downsides.
>>500180637I like the way you think. That would be cool, and I expect it would have a 10-20 second CD over Napalm
>>500182679It's a 50 second cooldown for a chaff softening red, and youve got like 5 frags. Don't be so stingy if you see 7 or more warriors, or just a patrol in general.
>>500182879I'm more excited for the AP3 SMG. I don't like pairing the crossbow with the ballistic shield.
>a game where dying over and over again is SOVLhow do the swedes do it
>>500177595How could someone so /fa/ not have my best interests at heart
>19k on matar>only .5% liberation>divers on defense events are doing proportionally more impact than matards
>>500183129This. I just don't really like the crossbow. I know it's OP, but it's just not that fun. Except vs spewers - fuck those guys.
>>500183514>he doesnt know how defense % calc worksplease refrain from posting
>>500181289I run Eruptor/Bushwacker, if a commando or zerk closes distance I give them a push and then pop them with Eruptor
Why the troll MO?Has there ever been a ‘win 5 defense’ mo that won, let alone the other steps?Not even worth trying.
>>500183557Yea, same with the purifier and jar I prefer the slugger. They need to lean more into that style of weapon, just one more option is all I ask.
>>500183514>dunning kruger effect
if loving this game is a metric for how easily someone can be influenced by propaganda then I haven't had an original thought in my entire life
>>500183620>19k @ 2%>1.3k @ .5%>10x more bodies for less than half of the impact proportionally
>>500183850These are level 9 defenses, they're actually pretty doable
>>500184021that's because defense operations give massively increased liberation %
>>500184175So why not do them?
>>500184271bricks boring
>>500184271i am. you need to make a post on reddit or the hd discord to get people to
>>500167368I can't tell if the spear is postive or negative. Fire and forget makes my brain happy.
>>500184008NPC-chama...
>>500172124Cute weapon, not a game changer. Could be if the devs wanna buff it.
>>500184575its a 6 month old image.the spear back then didnt lock onto enemies, or needed 10-30 seconds to get a lock
>>500184981Heavy pen, that's all that's needed.
>>500183557I like DAKKA DAKKA DAKKAExplosives feel better as a throwable, and explosive primaries kinda don't pair with anything outside of maybe the verdict?
>>500182483Dead general for dead game.
>>500184981Melee is super fun. Just needs better break points on bots, there is no reason this shit needs to use 3 rounds to kill chicken walkers and doesn't one tap their rockets.
the new warbond looks useless as a whole
>easy headshots for controllerchuds and people who cant aimyeah, I'm taking the Sickle
>>500184008Most media in the last 20 years has been "propaganda" at least in helldiver's case it's actually cool
>>500177595Why are people losing their shit on the concept of media literacy?
>>500172124Fun. It's a WW1 bolt action in space. What did people want?
>>500184008Naw. I think everyone I've come across understands that this game is a satire on propaganda and has it completely figured out.
>bot patrol spawns behind meI thought they fixed this shit? >>500185441It's the only usable assault rifle in the game and its damage numbers means it two shots devastator heads, like every other assault rifle. It's basically top tier. Only shit deal is the annoying rocket hitbox for reinforced striders.
>>500183196My brother in christ have you ever played Magika? I haven't but it's the same devs.
>>500185437>pen3 flechette shotgun (with stun alt fire)>pen3 smg>plasma pistol (unknown utility)>reduced flinch armornot sure what you want from warbonds but the shotgun is likely to be the first actually good anti-bot shotgunthis warbond is catering to botGODS and it's been a long time coming
>>500185740A gun that deals meaningful damage.
>>500185364>doesn't one tap their rocketsIt does.
My dipshit brother wants to play this game? (I want to bring him to d10 bots) what weapon should I recommend him use?
>>500186014if he's a newfag he'll be forced to either use the liberator or whichever weapon you bring
>>500185884>More power creep garbage Oh boy, can't wait for more cancer bot/bug variants.
>>500185851My brother in FUCK OFF BACK TO PREDDIT
>>500185974Wait does it?Well fuck- still should two shot torsos on devs and walkers.
>>500186108>it's either useless or powercreep!!!you are the whiniest motherfucker
>>500186292Host, I will join.
>>500185851Im not surprised the same studio fucked up hd2 so hard, but they really raped themselves with balance.It's night and day now though, like everything is perfectly tuned. But holy fuck was it bad
Shouldn't the Constitution be able to hold 6/5 rounds?It spawns in with a full mag and one in the chamber but you can't load it back up to 6/5 again.
>>500186108cynical complainer cuck detectedplease check your asshole for broken bottles
>>500186421lemme verify real fast
>>500184008Nobody is immune to it. NOBODY. Anyone that says they are, are the biggest fools.
>No stripper clip>No heavy pen>Mediocre damage>Shit iron sight>Armor looks like cardboard>Useless passiveFuck super earth
>>500186108Pistol is basically just a weaker grenade pistol, SMG doesn't do anything ground breaking outside of make ball shield decent, and the shotgun ....Im gonna be real with you guys. That shotgun is gonna suck.Like AH sees the shotgun has two functions, and they're going to make it mediocre at both of them. There's no way it'll be godly, it's gonna be lib conc tier. If not worse because they fuck up balance on release.Also the pistol stats kinda suck. It's like 75 explosion damage.
>>500186446>everything is perfectly tunedlollmaohow can anyone believe thissome items went from dogshit tier to god tier, like thermites and crossbow, but it's still a shitshow, still there are primaries and stratagems that you should never pick unless you suffer from cosmic levels of boredom, and the reverse too, ones that utterly trivialize everything and overshadow the entire rest of their respective categories
>>500185960>full power rifle does less damage than a revolverYeah, not sure how to justify that one.
>>500186134no
>>500186842okay, predditor.
I never got the stripper clip argument. It reloads nearly instantly, the stripper clips is the last thing it needs. Honestly feels kinda fine, Sept on bots.
>be me>somehow never saw the morganson defense ad during 500 hours of play>spill my milkfuckersI love Super Earth so much it's unreal
>>500185960You got Dan Hibiki as a gun, and that's okay.
Bugchads are going to get their MO objectives done and botshitters will fail. Botshitters are always dragging down the MO completion rate.
>>500186740There isn't a single weapon I couldn't make a competent build out of right now and have fun using everything in my loadout effectively. The only thing I can think of that doesn't work well right now are mines and maybe Mechs, oh and laser orbital.Shitters that don't know how to play the game can stick to their crutch primaries. I'm having a good time using the tools I have to make fun loadouts.
>>500187116All thanks to my effort.Whenever anons get uppitty about the MO i host lobbies exclusivly on planets that do as little for the MO as possible.
D10 BotsLobby decides shitholesteam://joinlobby/553850/109775240972589850/76561197999417031
>>500187116New gun suck on bots.Me stab buggy.
Should there be plasma orbitals? How would you distinguish it from the regular explosive or napalm?
>>500187318The modern gaymer thinks balance means equal effectiveness, as if making every weapon interchangeable would be more entertaining. If everything has its place in a loadout and isn't an exercise in frustration you wouldn't pick outside of a randomizer gone wrong, the game's balanced.
>>500185795>It's the only usable assault rifle in the gameI'd rather take the Libpen.
>>500187464full
>>500187318"I can make the weapon work" =/= "the weapon is good and has a right to exist"
>>500185960>>500185740Give it the stripper clips and give it god tier handling and it would actually be pretty decent. Oh and maybe some useable iron sights. Peep sights don't fucking work in vidya. Oh and fix melee range. Now it's still the same weapon but better, staying on theme/flavor.
>>500187318>mechsBring support weapons for your team and trade them for mechs.Just ride mechs all game, the lack of reds or greens isn't even noticeable becouse you can't use stratagems from inside the mech anyway.
>>500187738>Give it the stripper clips and give it god tier handling and it would actually be pretty decentIt would still be hot garbage. It's damage output just isn't good enough.
Why does everyone say the constitution is bad?It's everything but bad.>oneshots devs in the head>kills all bugs except chargers and BTs with ease>can melee oneshot chaff with peak physique>can kill rocket chickens in two hits>fast melee attack>can kill tanks with just meleeIt's genuinely a pretty strong weapon as it is.What do you even want more?Do you know what're bad weapons? >Diligence>Peacemaker>Breaker>Defender
>>500186996It's a small tuneup. >>500187857If I could snap to heads instantly with the aim lag fighting me, it would be much better.
>>500187505Lingering stun effect like the EMS orbital. Also change the EMS orbital to a plasma strike orbital.
>>500187646Why not?If I have fun with it, and it doesn't weigh down my build taking it. What's the problem?
>>500187738But it has like the snappiest handling in the game.You can pivot 90 degrees and insta head pop bugs within a quarter second
>>500188094>bugsbugs have huge heads, I'm talking devastator heads here.
>>500187936Use a peak physique armor to fix the aim movement delay. It also boosts the melee damage even more.
>play on controller>will never have good enough aim to enjoy the constitution
>>500188180Yeah I suppose so. Still rather have it work out of the box.
>>500187901Doesn't kill alphas efficiently at all, melee doesnt one tap warrior heads without Pp, rocket striders take 3 shots to go down, and it doesn't shoot and melee berserkers.It needs 240 DMG and 100 durable, 150 melee and it's perfectly fine. (Because then it will ACTUALLY do what you said it will.)
>>500188260why thoughconsoles are compatible with keyboards and mouses now, aren't they?
>>500188260>use a controller for rooty tooty point and shooty games ever
>>500188157Okay and bots are slow, you don't need better handling unless you mean the sway?
now that sentries are meta and guard dog scores more kills than any primary, what's consoleshitters excuse for being bad?
>>500188502Bots are slow but when you are moving around then you have to fight to get a steady aim back, maybe that's called something else. I've only got 5 shots so I can't be wasting them on just hitting the body, that's a dead shot.
>>500188260i play on controller and do fine, stop crying and fix your sensitivity
>>500188781Yeah the sway. Only way to fix that is crouch or dive shoot.
>>500188691Seriously what is with the devs and making retarded backpacks that break the game.
>>500188691>and guard dog scores more kills than any primaryWhy do I feel like mine isn't doing fuck all? I swear it spends so much time just not shooting anything.Also being able to accidently stow it when you press down while inputting a stratagem is really retarded.
>>500189042It's to make RR feel balanced.
>>500169348>make them spawn fake copies of enemies that only the one affected player can see.this is a nice idea, space marine 2 has something similar when you're fighting the chaos astartes
>>500185884>muh shotgunno one is going to use it dipshit maybe play the game first loser
>>500189147it docks to repair when it takes damage, idk maybe that's what happens to you
So, how much will botdivers beg bugdivers to save them on their front of the MO? It's honestly pathetic that botdivers can't ever complete their MOs without getting bailed out every time.
>he brings napalm to bots kicked right before we get on the evac
>>500189487No. On controller, long press down on the D-pad is the botton to interact with your backpack. So there was already an issue where you would sometimes consume a charge of the supply pack when you didn't mean to while inputting stratagem codes. Now the same thing happens for stowing your drones.Not the first swedes have been incapable of making the keybinds functional for controller. When you pilot an exsosuits there are just certain things you can't do, like changing your camera angle.
>>500189182yknow I think you might actually be right. I mean it's only one slot to take Recoiless, and I wouldn't say it's necessarily "OP", but guard dog is just so insane at clearing things right now. Like you can throw down a napalm strike on a bug breach, afk with guard dog and get like 120 kills. (I'm not exagerrating I did that a few days ago).Bots its even worse, but it's also almost a necessary evil with how shield devs cuck anything that isn't precision shot.
>bug diver>comes to bot front>dies 5 timesaaaaaaand kicked
How does suppressing the bots work? And is it worth trying to game that system?
>>5001874643/4
>>500191006It doesn't and no
>>500191006It doesn't. The tips are lying to you.
>>500191006Any shooting near/at them makes them less accurate. Basically, if you are fighting bots, they are less accurate. All that means is you never want to have them not suppressed, the system is always on as long as you engage the enemies.
>bot diver comes to bug front>thinks its a mil sim and points out every single bugGET KICKED BITCH, we bug divers are rambo and do shit in the fun way
>>500191006If you tap like I wanna say withing 5 meters of a bot, like a devestator. They will lose accuracy almost immediately and veer their shots off you at about a 30 degree angle. It's really noticible, especially against heavy devs, and those troopers on emplacements.
>he brings mortar to non-defense bug missionI kill you then kick anyone who revives you
monday on the super destroyerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajO6ZQ_LbVM
>>500191145>>500191127T. bug divers
>>500191006shooting near them builds up an inaccuracy meter.works up to hulks and gunships.tanks are immune to it
>>500191395>he brings a mortar.No if or but.Bringing a mortar should get you an express ticket to the electric chair.
>>500191145>>500191127your shift is over, fuck off>>500191006you just tap all bots you can see quickly so they start missing for a few seconds, it's pretty much the only thing that can save you from heavy devastatorsit doesn't matter if you deal damage or not
>>500191829Do explosions also do it? What about bullets from an MG sentry, since it could be coded to only count from the player and not necessarily a deployable?
>>500192018try it
>>500192018no idea, maybe
have it remove the icons above team-mates head and make them glow blue/white
>>500192954the helldivers visors are not at that technology level yet
>>500191127>>500191145Niggers who doesn't play the game.
>>500193160esl
>>500192954outlines are the biggest cancer in video games and I curse valve for all eternity for coming up with that shitwhy can't it be like in the old days of battlefield 1942 where an unobtrusive name with the team/player color appears over their head but only if you look directly at them
Ok I got a bug killing, spew popping, charger buck breaking, bile driving, most kills least deaths, deal with every seed, hold the GODAMN LINE, fun loadout for you. >Crossbow>Grenade pistol>Impact grenade>Explosion resist medium armor>MG turret>AC turret>Rocket turret>RRYou will pop all spewers with the cross bow and deal with everything sans heavily armored with direct impact. Kills scores of weaker enemies with each shot at the ground. Impact grenades with the armor set WHILE diving will inflict 5% HP damage if you throw it point blank. You will never be mauled to death again as long as either your crossbow is loaded or you got at least 1 grenade. New cool downs make it so you can drop 1 turret per patrol or double for breaches and major objectives. There is rarely a time you are without a gunny buddy to cover your 6. Make sure to put them on high ground so you don't kill your friends or yourself like a dumb cunt. Even parking outside a major objective while the squad goes in and setting up a nest works wonders if you can aggro the main group. Ensures low chance of friend fucking and pulls the bugs off the objective so they got light resistance. RR is just oppressively OP and drops everything with good aim. Worst comes to worst you can point back a charger and survive with the armor. This is consistently the most solid builds I've tried and there are many times you will go home as the same diver you dropped in as.
>>500185795>the only usable assault rifleLiterally every other AR has blown it out of the water for the past monthEven the fucking scythe
I am officially a bug diver now. Not because i want to be but becuase my pc is a piece of shit that seems to struggle with bot maps more and more with each passing update. Pray for me
>"the constitution is supposed to be mediocre">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPKnhsqi8uIHonestly, just give it back its insane melee range and damage and ability to oneshot most things without needing to be super accurate, I'm not even sure why they gave us this version with a butter knife on top.It's fun, but it could be even more fun, especially considering we won't be getting the Saber anytime soon at this rate, and this is going to be our only memelee toy for a while.
>>500192954 meant for >>500169103
>tfw you're a shitter owning the game less than a week and you still get top in kills with few if any deaths in a team of lvl100s+
>>500194871level is a reflection of playtime/addiction, not skill
>>500194871if you're playing anything below diff 10 then your 100+ teammates are just fucking around and aren't trying
is there an AI image creator that can make helldiver stuff but without it looking like off brand knock off shit?
>>500194871>bug shitter aggros all patrols and triggers breeches while his teammates actually do the objectives.
>>500195136no, that's ai by defaultask again in five years
>>500194871Might be, but im getting more melee kills and shots fired.I'm winning in ways you can't even comprehend yet.
>>500194168>i am a bug diver now>not because im bad at the game>its because of <insert bullshit argument here>>you have to believe me, i'm good!
>>500194871It's not exactly a complex game anon. Once you have an idea of the weapons and enemies it's all down to aim and luck. Anyone that would call this game a tenth of the top percentile super stressful hardcore title is a dad gamer on chronic wagie fatigue or a playstation cuck. Even at its very hardest, which was months before EoF and d10 hit, it wasn't exactly tough. A bit sweat inducing at times, but those were few and far between. It's a 5, max 6 out of 10 if 10 represents games that are actual Korean-tier nigh unsolvable bullshit. When it was at its hardest mind you. In its current state it's a 3 or 4.
>>500194871kills are even less an indicator of skill than level
>>500160037strafing run comes before airstrike
>>500195557Yes
Did the Senator revolver already get nerfed? I read all of this shit online and see tons of videos about how it kills chargers and bile titans and I'm over here dumping 30rounds into something and it doesn't kill them.Am i using it wrong?
>super long MOsYeah they're phoning it in.
>>500193774glad to see dale's dead bug is still going on super earth
>>500195921>i believe everything i see on the internet at face valuearen't you adorable
>>500195921It can hurt them, but its' not fucking good at it.
Bugs are inferior gameplay and I'll think less of you if you like playing against them. Simple as that
>>500195136we have a dude making mspaint pictures in these threads, just half ass it with a photoshop knockoff program
>>500195557what stops you from upgrading your PC? any shitbox can be engoodened with the right parts, and for decent money too
>>500195921some autist calculated it, you need 32 shots without missing into a bile titan's head from the titan's melee range to kill it
>>500196072I don't even know who you are
>>500196012>It can hurt themHow many shots am i looking at?I thought it would at least be able to strip a chargers leg armor in like 4-8 shots but it doesnt even do that.
>>500195921lolyou need durable damage to kill chargers and btssenator is only good on bots because hulks weakpoint is not durable
>>500196093newfag.
>>500195921>>500196179You can use it to finish off damaged enemies but expecting it to kill heavies from full hp conveniently is bonkers
>>500194168>Used to get 50 FPS when the bot drop hell started at high/ultra preset>Now I get barely more than 20 FPS at low preset with upscaling
>>500196379Damn i thought they made the game actually fun though, but it looks like they're still taking themselves too serious when it comes to weapon balancesame with the meme bolt action rifle being weak
>>500196308everyone replies to the wrong post every once in a while anon, you probably more than the average on account of being such a low-quality poster.
This is ridiculous
>>500196450The revolver is great now, fuck out of here
>>50019617940+ shotssee >>500196119
>>500196225I feel AP4 in general is only usefull against hulk eyes, strider eyes/brain and the bratty turrets.
>>500196494but that's how fov works
>>500196494It uses vertical FOV, not horizontal
>>500193793>Even the fucking scythepeople don't want to admit it but the scythe has always been better than the sickle
>>500196450git gud
>>500196535>ap4 is only useful on armor 4 enemiesno shit sherlock
>>500196618no
>>500196618How
>>500196450Go play darktide or deep rock then
>>500185795no, they simply lowered patrol spawn ratesthey still spawn behind you
>>500196119>you are standing in melee range of the heavychargers need 19 revolver headshotsBTs need 32 revolver headshotsbehemoths need 37 revolver headshots
>>500196618No, it was trash.Even now its damage output is only barely useful enough that the pin point accuracy carries it to good status.
>>500196841the scythe actually hits the spot you are aiming at
>>50019611931you should be shooting it with the commando to soften it, and then take it out with 8-9 shots.
>>500196450>not being able to just trivialize the heaviest enemies with a secondary is antifunJesus Christ
>>500196720My point is that it's all bot weakpoints.Learn to read.
>>500196450You're back up weapon being able to take out the heaviest enemies at all is stupid enough as it is
>>500197025it's not a precision rifle.
>>500196494Just use a lower FOV then? You're not one of these people who distorted their display to an absurd degree just to gain an advantage in this easy non-competitive game right...?
>>50019706232.damage falloff exists, smartass.you are not riding on top of the titan's head for 31 shots
>>500197267why not?also it'd be 33
>>500196494What's ridiculous about it. Every game has that range (70-120° horizontal FoV)
>>500196494>a 2007 videogame managed to get this right>a 2024 videogame couldn'twe need to go back to png overlay scope textures
>>500196494>anon learning for the first time helldivers uses actual 3D positioning for its ADS camera and not just an UI overlayare you new? where you not here for the misaligned scope arc?
So I've come to the determination the tesla tower is really good at killing bugs but holy FUCK are team mates oblivious to the fact you cannot get near it. They will run within 10m of it. Die. Get recalled in then immediately shoot it. Like dude that was YOUR fucking fault.
D10 BotsLobby picks planetsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775240983378434/76561197999417031Verify yo'self
>>500197964if someone destroys my turret on purpose i will immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them, call them down and immediately execute them,
>>500197964Just wait until you find a nigger that shoots you because he ran into the tesla tower
>>500197964>Can't play a tesla trooper because the tesla shotgun is ass, arc thrower kills friends and retards run into tesla equipment and then shoot itdogshit game
>>5001979952/4
wow the constitution rifle sucks cock. can't even one shot a basic grunt bot, like i'm spending more time reloading than actually shooting with this thing
>>500198053Stop placing your turrets behind the team retard
>>500198430You're meant to stab tank heatsinks with the bayonet, not shoot the gun
>>500198123> tesla shotgun is ass>>500198430>constitution rifle sucks cock. can't even one shot a basic grunt bot,jesus this general is infested with the most retarded shitters imaginable
>>500198607I tried the tesla shotgun months ago and it was only good when paired with guard rover because then you'd have a chance to not get swarmedMaybe they improved it now
>>5001979952/4 get in here faggots
How would you fix the Knight?
>>500197175chargers and bts are also armor 4the problem with bugs is not armor piercing, the problem is durabilitysenator and hmg have shit durable damage, amr and ac mediocre durable damage, only AT have high durable damageon bots only factory striders have high durability, that's why these weapons work better on bots
>>5001979953/4 just one more for the orgy
Where the fuck is the content
>>50019897075 mag size
>>500198970medium pen
>>500198970extra magslow number of spare mags isn't just knight's problem
>>500198970Bayonet and +2 mags
>>500190787>always runs to the red beambotTARDS
>>500199391>one-handed SMG with a bayonetThat actually sounds cool
>>500190787that accomplishes nothing, bugdiver
>>500198701They basically doubled it's RoF compared to what it was on release. It's a top tier bug weapon IMO.
>>500199669I'll try it out next time shockbro, god bless if it's good now
>>500199586
>>500199669And the stagger makes you immune to most enemies. If anything blitzer's drawback is the low skill ceiling turns bugdives into naptime.
>>500199789>blade still bigger than the one on constitution
>>500199414Those are Mothdivers.
Let's say (You) are given complete control over the game, how would /hdg/ incentives players to participate in the MOs?
I think I kept getting the credit for my team's kills in the last game.Like twice at extract I was getting 48+ kill streaks from gas drops and MG turret.
>>500198970>implying it needs fixingJust bring the Verdict and you'll be happy as a clam.
>>500200202... i now get this meme
>>500197204is it really able to take them out if it costs 90% of the total ammo though?
>>500200235Eagle-1 NPC on deck (not disgustingly brown with a shaved head and fucked up face, and it's sad that I have to specify this)Completing an MO obligates her to remove one article of clothing.
>>500197995Think it's full, failed to join lobby.
>>500200724The pope coocked.
>>500200235incentivize*
>>500200947>see catholic mascot on box>it's a little chibi loli in a raincoat with no pants on>open up catholicism>it's a boy in a dark closet being sexually abused by a priestwe need some truth in advertising laws, damn
>>500199789Alright, but what if...
>>500201269>hunt showdown weapon variants
>>500201269Take my money
>>500200235+50 super credis per full campaign on D10. Money is the best motivator.
>>500201418Avtomat consitution next year.
>>500201269ship it
>>500201772>+50 super credis per full campaign on D10Then people will bitch D10 is too hard again because freeloaders want the free credits
>>500200235SC rewards so I can actually get something else besides a 0 medals window
>>500200235>add weapon customization to the game>every MO grants a weapon modification permitDRG-style faggotry to propel the grindslaves
>>500200235 Changing the rewards to something that you can't just obtain normally, 45 medals seems like a drop in a bucket especially when you don't even have to participate to get it and you probably earned way more just trying to do the order. I'd be happy with just a basic palate swap of an existing armor like those pre-order armors that are blue and white, but have a minimum paticipation amount. That way people can show off the MOs they were involved with. If all else fails do this guys' idea >>500200718
>>500201418Put this in the game as a support weapon as-is.
It's been 4 months since I last spent a sample
hdgbros on the Slugger? I can't get this to work at all, just sucks when I use it so I gave up
>>500201993You can grind credits on level 1. If they bitch it's too hard to get credits on D10, then they must be retarded. Got all the bonds by just grinding. Motivation would be the passive gain of credits instead of running around the map x100.
>>500202629>you can't come up with anything worse than erupt-ACK
WHEREAREMYSATCHELCHARGES
>>500198970deletion alongside its entire category
>>500202629Would it 1 hit chargers or hulks with the explosive bolt?
>>500202807>then they must be retardedof course they are
>>500197995>lose network connection>after all that
>>500202757it's C tier, you don't make it work, you cope
>>500187464>lost connectionAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY 400 KILL GAME NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>500202757It does suck
>>500203109I'm still here :(
>>500197743You! Yes, (You)!I like you.
>>500202757aim at enemyclickthey dieit's the most braindead gun in the game
>>500200235Successful MOs give super credits if you logged progress on it.
>>500203490>aim at enemy>click>they don't dieOh my god, Arrowhead is such a shitty developer, buffs when, this is literally unusable trash
what're good planets to SC farm?
>>500203761ur sisters ass
>>500203761crimsica, scotland (preferably bug) or canada
>>500203850i get scotland but canade? you mean ice planets?
>>500203761Flat desert planets. Jet pack + light armor. Stamina booster, explosive primary or auto cannon support. Go around the map on D1, grab all you can, hit escape > return to ship. Repeat, second time around you can get the map glitch, basically text can pop up on interest points if you hover over it(on the map).
>>500200724>>500201261Why is her hair blue?
>>500203761Desert or Highlands bots
>>500203986I think he means the tundra planets
>>500203986scotland = matar baycanada = martale
>>500203464Is the lobby full? I can't seem to join
>>500202757It used to be better and then they fucked it. They have yet to unfuck it.The reasoning was that the gun was performing as a better DMR than the existing DMRs. AMR that's because the DMRs were shit but now they have buffed the hell out of the DMRs so there's no reason
>>500204003she's the main character of the doujin
>>500204362>then they fucked it. They have yet to unfuck it.they fucked it by removing the staggerthey gave it back the stagger, thus it is now unfucked
>>500200724there we go, anime and nip pop culture are now officially normgroidslop and no longer have a place here in the sacred shitposting halls of fourchains
>>500204362Shotguns as a whole have been left behind in B tier and below.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240990620924/76561198931226109l
>>500204578It still have lower stagger and the damage is still shit too
>>500204887and that's a good thing
>>500196562>>500196615It's not talking about the FOV you retards, it's referring to the borderline unusable ironsights because of the way HD2 handles scopes
is matchmaking broke or is it just me?
what does it mean in the data collection mission if it suddenly says we failed objective and the hard drive icon on the map turns red?
>>500205410It means you failed the objective
>litterally every lobby I see spams supply pack>shield pack is the issue
>>500205562interesting theory, but how and why?
>>500205410What does it mean in the evacuate assets mission if it says we failed objective and the generators are destroyed?
>>500205650>>litterally every lobby I see spams supply pack>>shield pack is the issuethis isn't february anymore pal
>>500204519I thought that was supposed to be the guy with long brown hair?
>>500205717I didn't even know it was possible, but somehow you managed it.
>>500205881that shit's still a light novel, it hasn't even been serialized, let alone adapted
>>500205650Get with the times grandpa, guard dog is the new issue
>>500200235Successfully MOs give you a "Service credit" contribuing more gives you moreservice credits unlock exclusive capes or pallete swapped armour'Armor for everyone is armour for noone'
Diving on Matar Bay reminded me why I should stay far away from bot MO planets. I wish bugfuckers would stay over on their casual front, I can't carry shitters of that magnitude
>>500205717i'm fairly certain with enough patience, you can deplete the drive's hp, just like you can destroy the larva and the seafart shell, which is why there's always more than 5
All my team mates run right past me when I'm on low health and have no stims. I even press V to let them know with the voice line and they straight up ignore me every time. why are they like this?
>>500206482You're playing with pubs
>>500206482your teammates suckI've run after people with no health in hdg lobbies more times than I can recall
>>500200235>MOs give SC instead of medals when you're capped>Weapon skins for filler MOs, capes for major campaigns, with trim based on the highest difficulty you completed an entire set of missions with>Bonus strategem and booster on MO planets
>>500206482pubs have a high chance to be NPCs
>>500200235I like >>500206192 idea but I would just have some of the big MOs give you a cape or special cosmetic item. I am still pissed we never got a cape for saving that children's hospital
>>500206482meanwhile I'm trying to chase teammates with no stims and red healthbars trying to stim them but they're wearing medium/light armour and I'm wearing heavy so I can't catch up to them :(
>>500205187just shut up and strop whining about a terminally shit meme gun you faggot
Remember Retrieve Essential Personnel?Good times
>>500206763>pedocapewow something that's even worse than the creekcape
>>500206862Thats what the lib conc was made for.Tap your teammate in the foot so he falls over and you can stim him.
>>500198970more magsquicker reload
>>500205187but it's usable at 45 FOV? thus making the FOV the issue?
>>500206126Well jokes on me for knowing jack shit about that. I've tried reading them but always give up sometime into Exodus. Didn't get so far in the "sequel" either, just as far as the walking on water bit. Skipped ahead to Revelations instead. Haven't read anything about 3rd edition either, or the fanfiction either. Worth trying again?
>>500207175nah, the writer stopped making anything new for a really long time until he pumped out the mormon spinoff and that's even dryer reading where he just keeps repeating the same parable over and over like he forgot he already told that story, it's weird
Constitution buff ideas? I've seen these-Stripper clip-Melee damage buff-Faster sprint speed for charging
>>500207640fuck off sloppa nigger. still haven't learned your lesson ?
>>500207640go to reddit
>>500207754french
>>500207754Bro you got a warning last time...
>>500207640Man I love that, wish that helmet was in the game. Also a speed boost for getting into stabbing range is definitely a cool idea.
>>500207754>>500207824>>500208020>samefagging
>>500207640
Huh i just woke up and now Phact Bay take even longer to conquer ?
>>500201269
What's with all these autist newfags
>>500207754while I dont really like >>500207640 because style doesnt fit the game and looks more like wh40k you are a fucking luddite retard for holding opinion od AI = bad
Do we know any nitty-gritty details about the upcoming warbond? I'd like to know in advance what the damage numbers for the shotgun and SMG are, but above all else I wanna know if the armor trait will keep me from getting staggerlocked out of the stim animation.>>500159039Funny enough I've been teamkilled more by almost every other turret than I have by mortars
>>500208326We trashed this nigger trying to make a thread with that horrible sloppa shit. The thread even got fucking deleted. Why would you even use such a disgusting stupid sloppa picture when there's a billion actual Helldivers drawings around ?Also AI is pushed by big corporations/globohomo, think about that for a second.
>>500208301also while looking for this found pic related in folder, not sure if an auto crossbow would be redundant
>>500208624>welmfaoolNo
So are mines worth bringing now? What about the AT mines in particular?
>>500208713I don't care about your opinion, troon.
>>500208724No
>>500208370I have been team killed by the eagle cluster bomb more than any other stratogem ever. It seems to have a borderline random fight path so not totally user error
>>500208824This community doesn't like tards like you, you're the same retard that was insulting anyone that brings sentries.
>>500208724lol, lmao
>>500208370so far my most proficient team killer is the Walking Barrage>throw it clearly out of danger range>somehow a shell conveniently hits me with perfect accuracy
I JUST WANT A PROPER MELEE WEAPON AH DAMMIT
>>500209036>>throw it clearly out of danger rangewhat's the supposed danger range, anon?dependent on the bearing of initial throw, that shit will nail you up to ~48 meters
>>500206862What I don't understand are the people who have no stims not waiting for the supplies I call down in front of them. I'll take one for both of us I guess.
>>500209136I always get to at least 50 meters out
>>500205410>>500205986maybe he dropped it in a death hole/pit of some kind?
>>500209125Your frustrations have been heard and ignored
>>500208624>WeCertainly not, you being a whiny faggot and a pussy doesn't make us one too.
why is the eruptor so shit against chickens? takes like 3 or more shots to the groin spot to kill one...
>>500208724Only worth it if you want to actively grief people
>>500209351Eruptor is a bug weapon
>>500209535it's fine against bots. But like he said... chickens
>>500209351armored chickens & heavy devs currently make 90% of primaries useless in most do-or-die situations (which in 8 and up, is like every 30 seconds)
>>500209381I fought with a dude to the bitter end. It was awesome, just the two of us, SOS beacon unanswered. But someone ruined it by throwing incendiary mines at the extract, killing us both suddenly right after we called it in.
>>500209351>takes like 3 or more shots to the groin spot to kill one...shoot the leg, despite having 100 more HP than the crotch it's not explosion immune so it's 2 shots instead of 3 for the crotch
>>500206279this is something that should be possible for an inanimate object but i bet you're correct>>500209330he dropped it nearby the objective then we went to go get the other one but it couldnt have been on the ground more than 5 minutes. when we went back to get it, it was just gone
>>500209330https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/180?tab=description
>>500209765I'd argue its just the armored chickens. Hitting the dev heads are easy with practice. The chickens? Just hope you hit the rocket and not the rail. And if you hit the rail then you're probably fucked.
Anyone using the Dominator?Is it good or has it dropped off like the Sickle after everything else got buffed?
>>500209967JAR and Sickle are still good, but i only use them on bots so idk for bugs.
>>500165240G A S S T R I K E
>>500209967still kicks ass especially on bots, 2 shotting ckickens and one tapping dev heads is amazingrunning peak physique is also mega-good with it
>>500209924>gold all over the place on an armor that's supposed to be the cannonfodder armorBig yikes
>>500207398>he just keeps repeating the same parable over and overWhere did you get this EEG of my brain? This is how it feels inside my head. Pic also semi-related.Disappointing about the rest though. I'll stop bothering you if you want it's just I'm in the Bible Belt of the States and I feel the peer pressure mounting sometimes.
>>500210134Thats clearly not a grunt you fucktard
>>500209967Dominator should still be good, but it isn't the "top tier" bot weapon anymore, that's the Purifier.
>>500210134As opposed to the guilded armor sets that are already in the game?
>ask for MO>one of the shittiest compound fillers to date
>the most intelligent member of the team
What are some fun loadouts if i pretty much just play diff 7?
>>500211559Literally anything, I'd say. Find one of the gear randomizer websites and try running what kind of nonsense it spits out at you.
>>500211559any
>>500210281The death corps of Krieg are cool exactly because they're cannon fodder, all the way up to the officers.The model you posted feels like a shitty cosplay because instead of looking like an actual officer it's a regular Kriegsman armor with gold parts on it which runs counter to what makes the Death Corps cool - men with the barest necessities of gear, but the biggest balls of steel in the world.
>>500211860I posted the link not him. The author was just trying to go for a mix of Krieger/Helldiver aesthetic not a 1:1 recreation of Death korp.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240996811885/76561198024623656Boots on deck to drop bot into the dirt, D10s of course. We're going to Mintoria.
>>500211860>autism
>>5002123604/4 but one guy crashed and another immediately took your place. You want me to kick him?
>>500212360>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240996811885/76561198024623656>failed to join
>>500212360>failed
>>500211860I feel like if I state the fact that there are female kriegers you're going to have a shitfit in my general direction.
>>500212828>>500212858we are full, sorry.
>Matar Bay has more than half of available divers>both current bot defense planets need 22k divers each>both bug planets need capturing as wellFucks sake just finish the DSS already
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240997884807/76561198068408065D10 - BOTS - MATAR BAYOverflow lobby.
>>500213186full
Do people like better handling or recoil when it comes to the HMG/any auto gun? I want to enjoy peak physique but honestly the recoil bothers me more than the drunken sway of certain weapons. I usually crouch/prone when I can.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240998353058/76561198070044660d10 bug
>>500213601Crashed me... rejoining
>>5002136013/4
>>500213591Handling 100%. I can play around recoil easily but not handling
>>500213591100% recoil. Handling is pointless
>>500213601HEY (YOU) yeah, YOU! We got bug squashin' to do. JOIN
>>500213601Full!
>>500213915Opposite for me. Sway just becomes part of my muscle memory while recoil will make me whiff the easiest followup shots.
>>500214549Pretty much this. Handling is a really minor slow down while high recoil renders an HMG useless unless you shoot it very slow
>>500200235Same rules as defense planets
>>500213591recoil redux allows me to fire mmg at 900rpm without having to thinkpeak physique is nice but you still need lower rpm
>>500207640You're not getting buffs to your weapon that was added to the game as a joke. Fuck off, redditor.
>>500216192>joke weaponyou are the redditor here.
>>500207640dirty filthy slopper, hang yourselfbeside those I can think of>counter sniper ammo or just barely better>give the magazine a bump to 10 rounds, SMLE style; autocannon ergonomics of topping up every five rounds outside emergencies>rifle grenade memes? wishlist tier>give it a non-standard WW1 sword bayonet that's 1 1/2 to 2x longer
>>500215090just crouch
>LIBERTY SAVE ME>it actually does
>hmm today I will bring a patriot mech to a bot blitz>ten billion rocket chickens instantly remind me why I haven't used a mech in months as my burning mangled corpse gets catapulted over the entire map
RELEASETHEFUCKINGSQUIDS
>>500211349>the team in question
we genuinely might run out of planets to defend
>>500216693>A fucking WW1 weapon that's a ceremonial piece is supposed to be viable in future combat against literal robots and bugs that could cross a trench faster than a naked Hun.You are a redditor and a black as coal triple nigger.
>killwhores in the team spamming barrages and sentries off cooldown>they always manage to somehow TK other anons even if they are nowhere close to them>the game becomes the most boring shit possible because of them refusing to give up their crutches
niggers don't remember the OG Constitution could casually center mass shot Warlords (Hulks) just like the Senator and its P-6 predecessor, the Railgun, the proto autocannon Dum-Dum, and the pseudo-AMR Camper with almost as much damage as that last one
Thoughts on EDR9s?
>>500218516>repeating actual Reddit mental gymnasticsSaddest attempt of n-no y-you! I've seen
>>500218516>old weapons can't kill you okay?!lmaoIf the Constitution uses space-age bullets and propellants it's about as deadly as any other Helldude weapon. It's not like they literally unearth these things from battlefields and fill them with WW1 ammo
>>50021900599% of them never played the first game, you can tell by reading their posts
We're getting some kind of update tomorrow, right? They need at least some bugfix to sneak in the warbond content
>>500219327>it's about as deadly as any other Helldude weapon.true, it is about as deadly as any other weapon. it does more damage than the DCS did before the 60 day patch, even
>>500219632More like sneak in some nerfs
>>500218516>Old guns can't do as much damage as new guns!!!!Nigger, I could chuck a spear at your nigger skull and you'd still be dead as if you got shot by a .50cal and the spear has been around since we living in a fucking cave.
>>500218289The bot front is so goddamned spread out right now. I guess it's the only real option though, since the supply lines on the bug front are so constricted despite there being a bunch of non-Gloom planets controlled by them.
Liberator Penetrator is really fun to use now. Feels good to have a basic assaults rifle that performs.
>>500219327>>500219802what will the IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MEDIOCRE IT'S WW1 TECH!!! trannies do if or perhaps when the Constitution is catchup buffed to do more damage than the DCS in its post 60 day patch form? will they bawl and shriek?
>>500203490>aim at enemy>click>they dieI genuinely don't understand this complaint. Isn't that what happens with literally every video game weapon? What exactly is supposed after you aim and click on the enemy instead, a quick time event? A mini game loads?Am I just autistic? What an I missing?
>>500220529if you think the constitution is unusable right now you are delusional, and if you think me saying that means I am fighting against the possibility of buffing it you are an idiot as well
>>500219894I'll just use a fucking drone to kill you before you ever even get close, spear chucking nigger faggot
>>500218516You are a traitor and deserve what that entails.
Speaking of joke weapons, AH should add in a joke secondary next, a flintlock pistol would be nice, pen 3 150dmg, same slow muzzle velocity as the SMGs, having a full joke loadout and still able to complete the mission would stroke my e-peen so hard.
>>500220821it's not unusable, but it is mediocre and not much of a pickshave your arms maybe
Are there new enemies/objectives/maps since the last update?
>>500221131NOOO IT NEEDS AP4, A 5 ROUND MAGAZINE AND 400 DAMAGE OR IT WOULD BE A JOKE!!!!
>>500221416>pen 4An idea for a joke support weapon, a musket, pen 4, kill Hulks in 2 shots, slow reload, iron sight. It's a video game after all, realism niggers be damned.
giving the senator AP4 and its consequences has been a disaster for the balance ecosystem
>>500221223The latest thing they've added is the Jet Brigade, which is a bunch of chrome jetpack automatons that occupy one planet at a time. The brigade has disappeared for now but it's probably going to return and move from planet to planet in the future.
>>500221131make it pen4 but extremely inaccurate
>giving the Senator the direct equivalent of the preexisting P-6 Penetrators' armor piercing killing power has been a disaster for the balance ecosyACK
>>500220301It does feel like it finally achieved the niche it should have had all along, which is just a Liberator that can effectively take on armored enemies, and it's actually fun to use too. Makes for a good alternative to the Adjudicator, it's in a good spot
>>500219632I'm hoping for a quick and dirty Constitution buff, but that's probably gonna take months the way they've been operating
Honestly apart from mines I don't think anything could be called bad
>>500210134Nigga, it's just a little gold paint.
>>500213601ggs, mothsisters
>>500222774anyone that copes sterilizer and dog breath as anything but F tier is an idiot in my opinion
Shooting the rockets on the side of a chicken strider should cause it to blow open a hole into the cockpit, at which point you can just shoot the pilot
>>500223128but shooting the rockets just kills the fucking things outright as is, why make it shittier?
>>500223020all they need to do to make the dogbreath A or S tier is make it switch targetschange its priority from "finish off one target, move to the next" to "spray one target, move to the next"sterilizer would need a significant damage buff to ever be good, thougharc thrower is completely superior CC at a superior range and with superior damage, with infinite ammo
>>500223128The only change armored chicken walkers need is for the rockets to be telegraphed in some way, they should spark a split second before they get launched or something.
>>500223186Don't the rocket pods still often despawn on hit instead of exploding?
>>500223779If you hit the mounting rail, yes. So aim good.
>>500223346The Sterilizer would be good if it left clouds of gas behind and had a lot more range.
>>500223186It would be cooler
>>500223917if it was capable of producing clouds that dealt similar DPS to the orbital gas strike, and which lasted for similar times, at a range of maybe 30-40m, i would accept it as an A tier stratagemanything else and it's just a flamethrower derivative with a weak gimmick
>>500221172>it's not unusable, but it is mediocre and not much of a pickAlmost as if it's a bolt action rifle designed in the year 1899 or something. How many early 18th century muskets are still competitive on the modern battlefield today?>b-but with modern metallurgy and chemistry I'm sure that...Shut the fuck up retards. Rifle is fine.
>>500223854I find it much less asspain to hit the joints or just bring railgun my beloved.
>>500224178>How many early 18th century muskets are still competitive on the modern battlefield today?*laughs in Taliban*
Returned player here how good is chemical agents?
>>500224436only orbital and nades are decent
>>500212826Oh shit so that was why you thought I was a rando, god damn and I thought I was fast catching the lobby. Rip guy.
>tfw the only reason the rocket strider rockets are so damn powerful is so that when you shoot them the explosion is big enough to reliably one shot the strider.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241005047546/no rrsno kingsonly mend10bots
>>500224436It's bad. The grenades are the only worthwhile thing in there unless your a support femboy, then you'll probably like the stim pistol.The armor perk reduces gas damage, which is useless because gas damage is already very low.
>>500224436lousy aside from the gas grenades and stim pistol
>>500224641My mistake, I can't recall having ever seen you before but my memory is also shit so that might have had something to do with it. Fun game besides the crashes. Dunno why Arrowhead decided to put in great looking dropship explosions if its just going to crash the game.
>>5002247633/4
>>500224436sterilizer is garbage and dog is good is a meme but can be used. stim pistol is a fun break from aiming at ai hordes and the gas armor let's you stand in gas long enough to appreciate it
>>500224436Sterilizer is an M1 to CC while your guard dog kills everything weapon. If you're not running the gas heavy armour exclusive to the super store and in a rotation then it's mid.
>>500224763Hold a spot for me I'm verifying I promise I won't bring RR this time.
>>500224912Eh, I would have accepted it and I'm quite unlucky catching lobbies so besides some refugees I don't know that many people from here. GGs
>>500225091>Failed to joinNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>500224436The gas grenades are good, the stim pistol is fun. I think the armor looks cool but the new passive ability is worthless. It's the only warbond in the game with strategems, but they're weak, especially the support weapon. I can't actually remember what the booster is, which goes to show how often it gets picked. Also, that decent orbital the other anon mentioned isn't even included in the warbond, he's mistaken.All in all it's weak. If you've got the SC, definitely wait until the new one drops later this week and wait for the consensus on that one.
>>500225091verifying does nothingthe only thing you can do not to crash is not shooting dropships
>>500225293There is no booster with that warbond.
>>500225474that explains it
>>500224763>no rrsWhy? Too easy you autistic crybabies?
i did my reps in time. i can feel the 6 pack muscle memory ingraining into my hands. It's so autistic but it keeps my mind off anxiety.
>>500226294>i did my reps in timeWhat's your workout?
>>500224436Gas is a good effect. It makes enemies go blind and just walk around and attack randomly. Gas grenade is great, fantastic way to fuck up a big blob of enemies. Gas gun is trash, its a bad flamethrower.Gas dog is average to bad. Its fine if you use it with a flamethrower as a way of confusing enemies so you can burn them. But with this play style you would likely have more fun with a jetpack or personal shield.
>>500226420but who wouldn't have fun doubling up on war crimes, anon?
Haven't able to play the game in 5 months, wtf did they do to my Slugger? Why is it so inaccurate and why is the bullet so slow?
>>500226652it got nerfed and buffed so many times it kinda broke. it still works but its not 100% accurate anymore.
If they don't plan on progressing the war past the same 7 planets, I don't understand the point of restricting the limited time missions like the termicide towers or the one where you get overwhelmed by swarms of shriekers at the end.It would be one thing if the war finished every few months or so, but right now it's just limiting what people are able to do for no reason.
>>500226652They expect you to use it within 100 meters or so because anything outside of that and you're rolling a slot machine thanks to the spread on its shots.
>>500227305100 yards is pretty fucking far. Shame it's sighted for like 150
Let me guess, you *need* more?
i literally just want the 5 round stripper clip for it, thats it, it feels fine on damage.
first its JUST the stripper clip, then itll be a stagger and/or damage buff, then an AP buff it wont stop if you give them an inch
It should just be a bolt action AMR
EATs should do the same damage as a Recoilless shell.
>>500228119and it'll be beautiful, primary slot Senator
>>500227710Yes. Should've been able to do a running stab.
Rocket striders should have light pen on their torso.
>Constitution >Senator>BreakyLet me guess, you need more
peacemaker should shoot rr rounds
>>500229040I need to be able to equip the break-action in my equipment menu.
>>500213071they want to pull "le desperate defence until last second" trope with the station
>>500225332But blowing up dropships is all PWOOF KERWACHHHHHH NYOOOOONNNMMPP KABOOOOOMMMMHow can I resist that?
>>500221131give it stupidly large but stupidly slow projectile (non-explosive)
>D10 bughanistansteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241007756901/76561198086726534
>>500229964full
>480,601 hours = 20,025 days = 54 years 10 months
>Play the game MO
>>500157965>crutches>no AC
>>500231368It's QC-tier, what are you on about
>>500228438>one shots everything short of a factory strider, and then only takes 2 shots>WWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH GIVE IT MORE DAMAGE PWEASE ARROWHEADbuffbeggers are fucking intolerable
>>500231719you can one shot a strider if you hit em in the undercarriage albeit
the one and only reason I exclusive stick to a single faction is because I don't want to switch my primary/secondary/grenade/helmet/armor/cape/background every time
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>>500228438no, EATs should get sample upgrades to come 4 to a pod, then to have even faster base cooldown, and THEN to do base RR damage, while RR should itself sample upgrade to have even niggerer damage to deal with what's to come
>>500200235Immediately implement an armor/weapon/droppod/pelican/super destroyer color changing system. Something that takes very very little to work in development wise and can be a huge resource sink. Want a pink helmet? That will be 10k scripts, 200 medals, or 100 common 50 rares and 20 superrares. Players would eat that shit up and would drive up the desire to run more and more missions. Every shooter has proven that players care more about glam then gameplay or balance more then half the time. It is the ultimate skinner box and would keep people playing constantly. You could then focus the warbonds solely on new items instead of a handful of random colors no one gives a shit about. Because it is usually all or nothing and can't be used on their base armor.
>>500231873we just don't know
>>500231719EATs can't down gunships when you aim for the body/tail, only engines. And that doesn't kill the bots they're carrying. RR can do just that.
Now this is based
>>500235442no one has quite reached the level of quality I'm hoping for, nor done a full replacer, they keep making them for just a few armorsbut I believe one day I will be staring at my diver's ass constantly as I prone crawl towards objectives as if I still think stealth actually matters, recreating the MGSV female operative experience
D10 BOT MOdead general dead game editionsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241017065187/76561198076592284
>>500232887>here is your crutch
>>500237969wait there's a new thread im retarded
>>500231873>>500232887Art-anon draw dis plz
>>500232048The game does need some kind of loadout hotkeys like DRG has, where you can set up up to six different custom loadouts for each class.
is light gunner armor based?
