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>>500169352>Clayton CHADman
>>500169352Best OP of 2024
>>500169352stop baking early morons
>>500169352>OP about some old SF kuso instead of SF6*yawn*
>>500169467...was Bocchi threads.
Why is there no still battle damage on the models when playing online?
>cuckshitCapcuck hours...
Avatar battle should be properly balanced in the next game so people can play it competitively
if that was a white man you wouldnt be complaining
My wife mogs your waifu and it's not even close.
if that was blanka you wouldn't be complaining
>>500170053Yes.
>>500169352>Doesn't play>Dodges every time he's called outWow, maybe Clayton is ontopic after all
IneeduChun
>>500170181AKI...
>>500170181BASED
>>500170181Truthposting hours early...
>>500170203imagine if chun farted and did this
>>500170294Fug, this is cute actually
>>500170181>They spam the internet with blacked shit>Playing the victim when people get tired of them
>>500170294I ship them
>Aki's entire personality is being obsessed with her daddyhusband>SIRS and sandniggers insisting she would want some smelly sandnigger insteadOne of the most forced crackships
>>500170535it only makes sense, FANG is gay for Bison and once she learns Rashid kicked his ass she'll leave him. Women's cunts turn to desert when they learn their man got his ass beat
>Fang is [HEADCANON]
Support Hershuar
>>500170828Nah, Aki is a real bitch. She loves Fang even if he a loser.
>>500170773They were shipped in the comic.
>>500171017...is that it? Almost as bad as the mentally ill obese balding florida landwhale obsessing over Juri and Menat because they both like purple and appeared in a slop commercial for junkfood once...
They've already held hands.
>>500171232Alright, thats better.Still kinda weird considering she loves Fang.
>>500171446They probably just shilling for the sandnig audience.
>>500169925>7-5=2. A 7 frame move with 5 frames of advantage will hit on the 2nd actionable frame. Unless I'm understanding frames wrong. If there was a 5 frame advantage and you use a move that is 2 frames over 5 frames (7). Should you not be at a -2 disadvantage? The active frames of Manons MP is 4. If I assume that active frames start as soon as start up frames, then 5 frames has already eaten into that. If I assume that for some arbitrary reason it starts in the latter half of the 7 frames, then still 2 frames would have eaten into that. Leaving 2 more frames to actually hit.Oh wait...I guess if he can only start to jump after 5 frames then there's 2 frames he can be hit before he leaves the air. Nevermind I understand now, for some reason I think I subtracted 4 from 5 thinking he'd be in the air by the start of the 7 frames punch, since it should technically be slower, but 5 frames technically means that there should be 2 frames left of the 7 frames...even though it should be negative. But I guess that just means, Bison only has 2 + frames to do anything.So that means that -2 is safe I guess in all scenarios? Even ignoring the 5 frames the advantage allowed to be eaten up.Well, I find frame data boring so it's no wonder I didn't know this, I like to find out punishes by intuiting them through failure in game. Not sitting down in a training room like a robot.But anyway while I still wouldn't call it a mixup due to the fact that Manon has to guess, and therefore the advantage is barely really an advantage, since if cmnd grabs and he jumps, that's 80% health gone for a character with no reversal and non threatening neutral buttons (no armour punch, all her shitty lights combo, but not a single one of them is threatening, and only one of her medium kicks are cancellable, and it's not the long one.)So I was still half right even if I misunderstood some stuff.
I will set my leverless to down+up=up.
CHESTO!
used a hitbox? You didn't win.
>>500170007Honestly, if it was a bald white man I would be complaining as well. Or a very pale man. Or any beardless men. Baldies are ugly. Pale "men" are ugly and too feminine. Beardless men also ugly.
>>500172295Pic unrelated?
>>500172606Funny
>>500172960am i suspected of committing a crime, officer?
>>500172295Leverless is the best controller type, and everyone should switch to it. And I'm not even talking about performance ingame. Pads die too quickly and are expensive, sticks are a mess to fix.
>>500173141It is the best, but it's also broken and meant for Mugen, not street fighter. Hitbox is a deviation from real street fighter, not sf6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLMv8_9qUBQ
>>500172084>I still wouldn't call it a mixupA mixup is a mixup. Manon isn't the one guessing, Bison is. Even if was outright in Bison's favor, that just makes it a bad mixup.There's plenty of situations in plenty of fighting games where you go for low reward 50/50's because you know either will kill, for example.Furthermore skewed returns on options don't invalidate a mixup. Manon is a bad character, obviously, but she's not so bad that her command grab just has zero threat. You still don't want to be in command grab range of her, and any time she command grabs you could say "yeah but if you jump she dies so it's worthless".
Episode 11 (and Mai) waiting thread
>>500169352https://youtu.be/iLMv8_9qUBQ There must be some Clayton derangement syndrome that makes people act like this. Why is it so hard to admit this guy is the goat?
>>500173889That uber person after getting exposed defaulting to lying about Clayton being ill is cringe af. He back peddled so quick to when he realized Clayton was in the discord. ffs What's wrong with these trannies?
>>500174904this is the power of brian_f's coaching........
>>500175091>basically disabled>still ripped (used to be mired on /fit/)>still a ladykiller experiencing women around the world>basicaly behind 90% of dooberz tech>first man to discover micro walk slime combos>boots up Fightcade once every 2 years and traumatize entire discordsNobody can compete unfortunately
>>500170182Everyone dodges Clayton tho. I've only seen a few times people tried to debate Clayton and oh boy was it a shit fest. That whole LK fiasco was painful to watch, he made LK look like a clown that has never a video game ever. If LK acted like that against anyone that wasn't Clayton his youtube woulda been done.
>>500174904What a complete moron. HE never learned how to play the game properly. Maybe if someone had given HIM a solid gameplan then HE would have hit master by now. HE should work on controlling his emotions, it's very unnatural and hurts HIS game.
>manon vs bison argument going on days laterded game
Why does everyone have DPs?
>>500176015but eskay plays juri, what gameplan besides mp - cr.mp - oki you can give
>>500174904why is eskay so weirdly cute
>>500174904A completely normal response especially to the high diamond experience. Matchmaking is explicitly designed to make you angry as its primary goal. It's pure evil and the worst thing to ever happen to fighting games.
If I had to coach a diamond layer I'd tell them to slime good instead of sliming bad
I think the climb to master rank is fun, post your master ranks
>>5001767201750 but I still gargle balls and ass
>>500172084>A 7 frame move with 5 frames of advantage will hit on the 2nd actionable frame.>Unless I'm understanding frames wrong.You are"7f move" doesn't mean it has 7 total frames, it means it becomes active on the 7th frame.This jab would be considered a 7f move, but it still has 9f of recovery after the active frames. How plus you are on hit/block depends on how long the opponent is in blockstun/hitstun after you use it. This sLP has 9f of recovery, but keeps the opponent in blockstun for 11 frames, so you're +2 on block.
>bronze trying to understand framedataLook bro, "framedata" is the least thing you should worry about.
>>500176049what is bison
>>500176927In context it was about pushing a move with 7 frames of startup while +5.He thought the opponent could jump out or at least be hit aerial, which they can't.
>>500176049To make you learn how to not jump.
>>500176720all my Master charactersRyu: Plat 1 > MasterChun: Diamond 3 > MasterGuile: Diamond 5 > MasterManon: Diamond 3 > MasterAkuma: Diamond 3 > MasterTerry: Diamond 1 > MasterHaven't actually thrown my hat into the MR climb yet, but will with Ryu when the ranks reset while I'm waiting for Mai
>>500175487This. I'm not sure why it's a big deal anyway, He's already said he doesn't play anymore and has no intention of ever competing again. A bunch of fake combo boars and galaxy brains that can't compete against him in terms of intellect.
>>500177662I'm convinced that the people bringing him up negatively are just his fans looking to promote him because they're obsessed with him, so they try to get people interested in him by shitting on him like a retard to make people argue with them and defend him, so its just his fans baiting his other fans into having these stupid conversations in every thread.I have no fucking idea who this guy is and I don't know why /sfg/ won't shut up about him, but it feels like very dumb shill marketing.
I don't understand how people can say that diamond ranked experience is miserable/hard/whatever.I have 5 master characters in pisslow MR and when I climb new character in the ladder, diamond is super shill in comparison.
>>500178063>I have no fucking idea who this guy ishe's literally your father
>>500178119I wish he was my father.That way, the bar would be low enough that I would not feel bad everytime I compare myself to my real father.
>>500176720Manon was the most enjoyable run, weirdly
>>500178349agreed, going from playing shoto all the time to killing people in three command grabs was a magical experience
>>500178320Alright faggot
Really amazing you can tell when the nigger goes to sleep and all the talk about LTG is gone lol. God I hate teens
>>500174095>Manon isn't the one guessing, Bison is. Even if was outright in Bison's favor, that just makes it a bad mixup. No they're both objectively guessing, and Manon always loses more for a bad guess EVEN with 5 medals she will only get one command throw, because there is no world where her shitty combo damage is less preferable to a 5 medal throw. Not to mention she has the worst drive meter management in the game. But I don't want to focus on that because people try to say "she's weak so that doesn't make it not a mixup!" Tell me a single game where somebody is at threat of losing 80% help if the mixup victim guesses right.It's just not an actual mixup. It makes the entire concept retardedly meaningless.>Furthermore skewed returns on options don't invalidate a mixup.Makes no sense.>Manon is a bad character, obviously, but she's not so bad that her command grab just has zero threat.Yes it does. Effectively. But that's about her being a bad character, none of that matters.In a world where Manon had the highest health in the game? Sure, it's still a guess for her, but less so, because she can take what she dishes out. But she's not Gief and this isn't JUST about being a "weak" character. NOBODY has as much health as Gief, she has average, that's just a product of her being on the same playing field.
His name is Dale little bro, stop getting so defensive about your internet daddy
>>500179359What’s next, want to rape his daughter too? whens her period?
1600bros..i finally made it....with bison
I really hope Dale kills himself already so we can be spared this nonsense. L
>>500176927I mean sure I guess. So it was the latter where it becomes active after the 7 frames. Which is kind of...dumb I guess. What I mean is that it just seems like start up frames is irrelevant for everything but reactions I guess?Whatever, we weren't talking about frame advantage on block.BUT. If I'm understanding what you're saying, and only the active frames matter. Then Manons MP only has 4 active frames and 14 recovery.If the advantage is +5 and frames only matter in their active state, then +1 frames will be left over. But you obviously can't use that frame, so what does that mean? That even though the prejump should be executed the same time they're hit, that instead it happens a second later? I don't get it. Frame shit is so fucking convoluted and dumb.
>>500179914Unfortunately you're just a little too late. You see, late in the season, MR gets inflated heavily. And the closer to the MR reset, the bigger the inflation. At this point all of the roaches and rats come out and bubble their way to the surface looking for scraps. Try to hit 1600 MR within a couple months of the MR reset.
>>500180497cute snek
>>500180605>Unfortunately you're just a little too late.too late for literally what
CotW waiting room.
>>500180301>If the advantage is +5 and frames only matter in their active state, then +1 frames will be left over. But you obviously can't use that frame, so what does that mean? That even though the prejump should be executed the same time they're hit, that instead it happens a second later? I don't get it. Frame shit is so fucking convoluted and dumb.The amount of active frames actually does matter, because you can time shit out so you hit them with a later frame rather than the first one, and the move will hit "meaty" which can get you extra frame advantage. Their hit/blockstun won't change, but your move will still end just as quickly as if you had hit with the first active frame. Honestly frame data isn't as complicated as it seems at first, it just takes a little getting used to. I think you're overthinking a lot of this stuff and making it seem crazier than it is. you should really turn on the frame bar in training mode and you'll be able to just mess around with moves and see how the frame data works.
>>500180820too late for me
>>500178063>I have no fucking idea who this guyMaybe you should, watch a video? Or is this bait? Clayton is the goat take your meds.
>>500181393I don't watch ecelebs and I don't really want to.I play videogames, I don't need to watch other people play them. You're probably just trolling anyway, but fuck off I'm tired of the eceleb dicksucking.
Capcom renamed versus mode to something else, lied about it having dynamic, learning AI and got a bunch of retards to mash against the CPU for a title nobody gives a fuck about.
for me, it's Towa and Daigo
>>500179494>Dale fan brings up degenerate sex shit out of nowhereYeah that makes sense lmao
>>500182180Not even denying it huh. Anyway, hope your Dale kills himself so you can leave finally
Is it sometimes more effective to cancel into a DI counter than just DI? I feel like sometimes I'm already blocking and that's eating up my ability to react fast enough, but if I do something like cl.P into DI, I'll get the counter off.
>>500181625And it worked. Tekken ghost data is much the same and you have some people fight only ghosts for good.
>>500182474no
>>500181481>blablablaClaygod owns you I'm afraid
New Nayshall female character on the next pass
>>500182923clayton cant even walk for 2 minutes lolMan ain’t owning shit
>>500182474I think your brain is just on different mental stacks when you just block and when you attack with lights
seal = jiveresort = /sfg/
>>500182056Towa pleases old ojisans for money
>>500183684yeah, me
Character for this feel?
>>500183603This would make sense if anybody was playing it. But not even shitposters have fresh webms lol
So uhhhhh how’s MvC collection doing?Did it free Mahvel?
baron status?
>>500180881What I'm confused about is.If there is a +5 frame advantage. But the startup doesn't get subtracted from that 5 frames (which should leave -2) and instead it's the 4 active frames (which should leave +1) then when does the prejump start and how can it be hit by anything if the use of frames is so inefficient that it doesn't extend over.And if it's like what I thought it was before where (4 active frames are either counted as part of startup frames or after) then either nothing happens. Or...yeah idk.>you should really turn on the frame bar in training mode and you'll be able to just mess around with moves and see how the frame data works.I don't actually know how to set up the scenario and I'm too lazy to anyway.
>>500184260all 16ers do now is complain
>>500184260lol! there's been more jive lobbies than dix lobby this past year. There are 0 tournaments being run here unlike Jive who was always active.
>>500185671We had one silentOne tourney recently>but uh the pastProving my point. Nobody is loading up SFV, hell you’re not even loading up V
>almost sf4 levelsis there a game more abandoned than this?
>>500186172
>>500186194Beating a dead horse but
>>500186332max doodchingger is worthless for sales
>>500186097Damn, you had one tourney this year and still no lobbies...I kneel
>>500186237Jivers gassing up stubby fighter V will always anger meThey get one game that’s soulcalibur 4 tier (minus Algol/hilde guarde long rang) stubby and they think it’s SF Pax Romana.Get the fuck outta herehttps://youtu.be/ewC2EPSST-8?feature=shared
I'm starting to become fluent in schizospeak
https://youtu.be/gUN1EcjvqKI?feature=sharedI’m more of a Byzantium Era SF player myself. Fuck ottomans btw
>>500187170>0:30lfmaao great footsies
Who are we streamboaring
is daigo gay?
>>500187793It’s Monday….Work isn’t over yet and school has like one more hour before the kids are out
>>500186332IT'S MAAAAAHVEL BAYBEE
>>500187872What is your job that you can't even have a stream in the background
>>500187816He's definitely gay for throwloops
whos the skibidi toilet of sf6 chars
>>500188314Ken
>>500188314Bipson
>>500186332homies rather just play these games on fightcade
whos the kanye west stare vine boom of sf6 chars
>>500188834>>500188314luke
Would appreciate somebody explaining why Manon using a 7f move on a +5 frame advantage, would catch a 4 frame prejump and make it a grounded combo possibility.
>>5001890782F to get off the ground
>>500189078damn we're still arguing about that? mahreens tits have everyone in a daze. Someone can just test this immediately. Not me because I don't have bison and I refuse to turn on this shit game.Though in my experience, in most cases walking back gets out out of throw range anyways.If manon had specific tech that would let her sneak in a throw against a specific character, idom would know about it
>>500184018Cammy
>>500188831OF?
>>500189078Here is a chart I made for you:Bison's status by frame:| b b b b b j h ---> Bison get's comboed and dies |Manon's status by frame:| s s s s s s h ----> Manon combos you for 70% |Legend:b = block stunj = jumph = hits = start upManon is actually overpowered and has no losing matchups.
imagine losing to a commentator when you're a pro player. Ultradavid robbed some people too in a tournament once recently too. I would be heated as fuck
>>500189437>If manon had specific tech that would let her sneak in a throw against a specific character, idom would know about itThis is the counter argument I keep bringing up that none of the supposed "Bison gets countered by Manon" losers will ever address. They just dodge it. I don't understand how she supposedly has this insane reliable mixup and is seemingly dogshit. It would literally be impossible for her to be dogshit no matter her weaknesses with this mixup, because she could always exert insane pressure. But that's obviously not the case considering that Idom barely command grabs unless he knows he can. And the amount of times I've seen Idom lose with 5 medals is even more shocking.None of Manons weaknesses should matter in the context of a mixup because she should have COMPLETE advantage.I still haven't gotten an answer on what other character I'm fighting games have a mixup where the mixup victim can guess right and make you lose 80% health.
niggas said ultradavid
>>500189437>Though in my experience, in most cases walking back gets out out of throw range anyways.This is another thing I considered mentioning, but with my limited knowledge of how frame data factors into spacing, I didn't want to say anything.
>>500190110yes it was a notable thing, he entered a tournament with modern honda and eliminated some poor bastard top player. I forgot who.
>>500183116>Man ain’t owning shitSeems like he's owned you pretty bad here. Making fun of someone who has trouble walking due to health issues, and still looks like a chad. While you seething about him on 4chan like a incel. I'd say that's a pretty big Clayton W.
>>500188831imagine the smell
Kami live
>>500186172the slime shuffle
>>500191116jamie
>>500190434Lmao ok clayton, go huff over some ghosts
>>500191073average jiver
>>500189805this doesn't explain why he gets hit grounded instead of in the air though. all you've done is proposed the opposite of what I don't agree with
>>500191116Zangief
I'M GETTING REDDIT
save one roach or one dixxie?
>>500191938because there are prejump frames that count as grounded
giefFAGSwhy don't you retards ever use tundra storm?
Jive wasn't any stubbier than SF3 objectively speaking. You're just letting the camera trick you if you don't see it.
>>500192396suicide special that gets you PC'd
>>500192396I do, but only because i'm a tanahashi fanboy
>>500192479if you see a terry doing his gay ass cartwheel, is it risky? what about any of the forward moving specials that people spam?alsoif you see a fag doing DI is it risky? it just seems like it's a free as fuck counter to like 90% of the gay shit in this game and yet I never ever see a gief player use it
fuck it matters if its stubby, 4 and 6 have very long normals and they are the least footsies focused game in the entire series
>>500192396https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvBMz1LF7BE
>>500192117that's not what I'm talking about retard, stop trolling me your "Manon does 70% of your health in a combo" statement wasn't funny either.
>>500192095
>>500192705ywnbaw
>>500192690You're starting to finally learn that Street Fighter fans don't actually like footsies because it means they can't win by ransoming out in neutral. Why do you think people complained about Crush Counter so hard? Probably the most neutral mechanic ever added in Street Fighter 5 that just straight up punished mashing in neutral.The sooner you learn that Street Fighter fans hate neutral, the sooner you understand why SF6 exists.
>>500192729The moment you hold up, it still takes a few frames before you're actually considered airborne. You're still throw invulnerable, but if you get hit, you'll be hit grounded instead of getting air reset.What you should really be complaining about is the fact that Manon has next to no decent combo options versus an opponent that's just holding up forward. I'm pretty sure all she can get without CH is light strings since her mediums aren't even confirmable.
Maki the rock
>>500192971I cannot believe I have been compelled to say "nigga" on 4chan, but my nigga PLEASE FUCKING READ. I INCLUDED NUMBERS FOR A REASON NIGGA GOD FUCKING DAMN.>why Manon using a 7f move on a +5 frame advantage, would catch a 4 frame prejumpwhy do these numbers result in a grounded state? I tried to math it out myself but apparently I don't understand frame data and active frames aren't the same as startup frames and take precedent. What the fuck is the point of startup frames then? Wtf.
>>500192095Manon looks like this under the bangs
STREET FIGHTER 4 HAD DIFFERENT CHARACTERS THAT DID DIFFERENT THINGSYOU HAD FOOTSIE CHARACTERS AND VORTEX CHARACTERSYOU COULD PLAY AKUMA AS KEEP AWAY IF YOU WANTED TOTHERE USED TO BE SOMETHING CALLEDV A R I E T YARIETYIN HOW YOU PLAY THE GAMEFUUUUCKKK STOP LOOKING AT OLD WEBMS AND THINKING THATS ALL THAT HAPPENED
>>500193484wing girls are so fucking weird
>>500191387You think everyone who has posted about Clayton in this thread is Clayton? Might need to get your head checked schizo.
>>500193359you press a button it waits 7f then hits bison waits 5f then jumps, but he need 4f to jump away, which he cant because you hit him first (7<5+4), why the fuck you spend the whole monday on this shit? just boot the game there is a literal frame meter for that
>>500193359Are you literally retarded? You're +5, using a move with 7f startup means that the first active frame comes out on the seventh frame after you pressed the button for it. The jumping opponent will hold up, but his jump is only going to begin after his 5 frames of being stuck blocking or whatever are up, so considering the whole exchange, on the seventh frame of your button, they're still going to be on their second pre-jump frame in which they are still considered grounded. What about this doesn't make sense to you?
>>500193730Actually waited the 15 minutes for that reply lol
>>500193538sf4 was dogshit lil sisthat's really all there is to it
>>500193359>>5001927297-5 = 2 so Bison gets hit during the second pre jump frame. that's basic math. also the fact that you replied to the "Manon does 70%" in the second reply, rather than the first, shows that the statement was both true and effective since it got under your skin. you're wrong nigga.
>>500194302SF6 is made for poongko so is Tekken8.It’s actually insane he stopped competing before real party mashing and rushdown was given to him on a platter
>>500193484No. Actually she looks like this
>>500194562poongko has no yomi, he's just an execution ape, he can't hang in modern games
>>500194862The face card declines.
>>5001935384 had some footsies, but an enormous amount of chars didn't play it. And they were all top tiers.Does a Ryu vs Guile/Sagat/Dudley MU looks good? Sure. But that wasn't really the game.>YOU COULD PLAY AKUMA AS KEEP AWAY IF YOU WANTED TOIn some MUs chars punish his sweep (near max range) which starts Akuma's win condition. You can play him another way but thats not a "different" approach thats straight up denying yourself a stronger path to victory.
>>500194347>shows that the statement was both true and effective since it got under your skin. you're wrong nigga.retards calling me retarded while saying shit like this. you're mentally gone retard.>>500193963don't call me retarded retarded ass retard. you're behind on the convo, I already knew all this and sorted this out in the last thread. but somebody introduced new information that confused me, so I was just checking for other explanations to cross check counter evidence I had received.still not a mixup.
>>500194862imagine the turds stored in it
>>500195213>ad homyou lost
>>500193538>YOU COULD PLAY AKUMA AS KEEP AWAY IF YOU WANTED TO >THERE USED TO BE SOMETHING CALLED Lol and you can do the same in SF6? What kind of retarded argument is this? Are you a grade schooler? When somebody says a game isn't footsies, they're talking about incentivized or advantageous play. Not the fact that some retard can technically sit back, not use any of the drive mechanics and throw fireballs the entire game and anti air when they get close.It's like you lack fucking basic interpretative skills.
focus is the definition of anti-footsies, no idea how any sf4 fan would gas up that game's neutral. talk about combos, execution, whatever else, but not footsies nigga
>>500194723God imagine the freaky shit she's into
>>500195047Chars couldn't punish his sweep*Which is also a very recurrent problem in 4.The reward of a level 1 focus (the ideal way to catch a sweep) vs a sweep was very imbalanced since lvl1 FA didn't give you any follow ups. Add to this the fact that sweeps lacked lingering hurtboxes which made them extremely hard to whiff punish and you had a dumb game.
>>500194723where the fuck did Capcom devs find this bitch to model manons face after
>>500194862paperbag, now
man, manon's spin is fucking piss
>>500195426This shit was literally just 09 drive impact btw. Boomers are unironically fucking delusional.
I gotta stop ragequiting and making my club look bad
>>500195741All of Manons unique buttons and specials are ass. It's like they didn't even want the character to work. All she has are her buttons and like 2 pokes.
>>500191116She's just like me
>>500195959you know, i was actually just testing if posting worked and i now see that there's a schizo discussion about manon going on.i could butt in and share knowledge, but i see that the schizo is completely resistant to absorbing information, despite being told multiple times exactly what they asked for, so i'll refrain
>>500191116Mai
the random recurring gay shit in here really makes this place feel like tumblr
>>500195421>Lol and you can do the same in SF6?stop the cap man
>>500196235>everything I don't like is schizo.yes. please never talk in here again.
>>500196412sfg is obnoxiously delusional, literally constantly rejecting any reality that challenges their biases.
>>500195047>can you really call this footsies tho>Chunnigga what, footsies is literally all Chun had in IV
manon is an anti-timmy character. If she was good then people would uninstall the game after being command grabbed 3 times and dying in 10 seconds. Tournaments would run faster than schedule which leaves less time for ads which is the main purpose of tournaments. Manon, kimberly, and lily are all banned from being good. Jamie, maybe. Capcom is being careful in making him work and he might be top tier now already but people are too lazy to unlock his potential.
>>500196882>Manon, kimberly, and lily are all banned from being good. Jamie, maybeBad cope. Capcom merely has no idea what to do with them and made shit kits with them.>he might be top tier now already but people are too lazy to unlock his potential.Shut the fuck up Timmy.
>>500196792>-5 sweep>the only fucking +ob lvl 1 fadc>Long range buttons with barely any recovery>the only fucking +ob lvl 1 fadcYou never played 4 chun nigga
For me it's wake up dash whiff throw DI
>>500194174If you had something real against Clayton you would have posted it by now. You shit up every thread he is mentioned in for how many years now when someone mentions him? I've lost count at this point.
>>500197058you forget to mention>non cancellable EX DP>mediocre damage>floaty jump>no major wins>needs meter for basic bnbs>You never played 4 chun niggawrong
Reminder that Noahtheprodigy would 10-0 Clayton in any SF game
>>500197672Clayton's doesn't play street fighter, the only game he respects is Dragon Ball Z V.R.V.S. or some shit
>>500197659nta but none of the retarded shit you mentioned has anything to do with footsies, you lost
>>500196295sorry but when i wake up horny and lonely (every morning) i need an outlet
>>500197829Nobody cares about that kusogeSonicfox literally won an Evo in it, should tell you everything you need to know
>>500192463Nah, Jive had a fuckton of characters that legit had no mid range game or only did damage at range -1 and got zoned out by one or two buttons. 3S was a game with ass frame data design and logic which is something else
>>500197659Well I'll be damned, someone who played 4 in this thread? You EU bro?>you forget to mentionI didn't she was top tier. I said she didn't play footsies (she doesn't)
>>50019791423ers are so stupid you can't even make jokes around them. Just burn this general already.
how did the ancient ones defeat chun li in 4 when she could just HP you to death and focus impact everything?
>>500197873it does cause she needs good footsies to even function. how is having mid damage and the floatiest jump in the game not have to do with footsies? also her ultra 1 didnt even work on half the cast in the corner until ultra
>>500197914That it's fun?
>>500198039gets fucked by akuma or anyone with half decent oki and dive kick characters. her anti airs are also very situational and hard to use.
>Daigo Umehara>Cut his teeth winning tournaments on shoto characters>Endingwalker>Ryuchad who goes on to dominate his region>Blaz>Ryuchad who goes on to dominate his regionYep, I'm thinking RyuGAWDS are the true inheritors of Daigo's will
>>500198050She also has punishes most of the cast doesn't have access to thank to ex legs/U2You're not getting it all, thats just normal.
umm actually none of the games have footsies so its okay that street fighter 6 is complete dogshit casino slime
micropenis normal: vtrigger edition 5
Vega wall dived 35 years ago type beat
Oh the guy who got mindbroken by good ass Kami6 woke up, huh
>>500198260ken is the ryu of sf6
>>500198039chun had bad oki and mix ups and no meterless reversal. She also had relatively low damage. in a game where you either vortex your opponent to death, or blow them up with a combo into Ultra, Chun could not hang. It's the only game that Chun was ever not top tier in.
heh you're upset that your favorite series has become shit and you just have to watch as it gets worse? lol
>O-oh t-the g-guy who got m-mindbroken by good ass K-kSpeak up timmy
>>500198689>tokido play himNope fraud character
>>500198356MR 1230
>>500198689This is truly our generation's turd strike :)
Oh the guy who got mindbroken by good ass KamiV woke up, huh
>>500198736>>500198737GoodAssKamiMuhfuggin6
I'm just waiting for a top player to have a crashout and go mask off about this game.
just let turd scat die forever man, the game is fucking trash. stop trying to make games be the modern day turd fuckin scat!
>>500199042that happens literally every other week since beta number 2
>>500199042The game isn’t as horrid as trash jive so nobody will have a mike ross moment this time
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>there is an actual retard in this general that thinks manon threatens bison with a 70% health combois this place where people just go to troll?
>>500199248Mike Ross had Mike Ross moments playing SF6, what the fuck are you talking about.
>>500199375Marine did beat ProblemX's Bison with Manon albeit.
>>500199042Punk shat on the game for 6 months straight on release.
>>500199248>mike ross moment this timeevery single SF4 nigga is just a retard that couldn't stand having to actual neutral when 5 came around. when people can't execute their typical braindead tactics they shit on the new thing this happens in all games.
>>500199572>8f lag micropenis normals>neutralLMFAO jivebucks really think this
corny ass 09ers are never going to get over these niggas lmao mike ross is not your friend
>>500199428what does that have to do with what I said?
>>500199739Don't make me post the webm vappa
>>500199739why do sfgfags fellate themselves over what they think are owns?sf4 had objectively worse input lag and stubby (subjective) normals doesn't NOT mean footsies, almost that means dashes are more emphasized, which isn't inherently anti footsies
I liked it in the end, but I've never seen a fg destroy so many lives as sfv did. It was brutal.
Be thankful that we aren't playing [Other Game], /sfg/
>>500200000>>500200000>>500200000>>500200000>>500200000>>500200000
>Thread has returned to Jivechads shitting on 09tards againSoul. Now this is good /fgg/ shit.
>>500194723If Manon was brown would people stop hating her design? She's actually the best designed character in the entire game visually, my visual design bros will get it
You think you want neutral heavy fighting games, but you don't play SamSho, you don't like SFxT, you don't own NidHogg at $5, you don't even play VF
>>500200000If there's any tourists here this is a horrible thread for us to have a get in btw, it's not normally this bad I swear
>09'ersthey dont exist in these threads and if they do then holy fuck what are you doing here at your age? get a god damn life already and stop arguing about kids toys on the internet. absolutely pathetic.
>>500200000HOLY GETKAMI6
Every webm of competitive SF4 posted on the thread incrementally increases the chance we'll see an 09er LARPer meltdown.
>>500200061this should be a bannable offense btw
Thanks to 6 we discovered REAL talent like ........................................................................................................................................Sayff
>>500200407I'm telling you bruh being 1-1, final round in SF6 is the worst gaming experience ever made
>>500200294>get>>500200310>GET?????
>>500200096There are 2 09ers at best in this thread including me. I like Jive too so I'm pretty sure its just dixxies larping
>>500200265>VFin what way is vf not just a point blank 3d masher like any other with the exception of maybe soul calibur?>cross tekkek>neutralok so you don't actually know shit about any of the games you mentioned
>>500200347If SF6 had air specials from neutral jumps and back jumps people wouldn't complain about the offensive pressure so much
>>500200382>>500200382>>500200382>>500200382>>500200382
>>500200564lurk 2 more years before posting
>>500200347kek no wonder Daigo hated this game
Jivelets seething at the superior games like always
>>500200564zoomzoom
>>500200732there's a hundred other solutions to overbearing offense that doesn't involve retreading the mistakes of allowing jump back divekicksi'm pretty sure removing the only jump back air move in the whole game (air blanka ball) would be a pretty popular change
>>500199739You didn’t have to say micropenis lmao
HE WON FOUR SF6 TOURNAMENTS IN BRAZIL (NEXT NUCKLEDU??????????????????)
>>500200859legit fuck off about your fucking cool kids club? are you actually a fucking child? do you need to perpetually relive the feeling of being part of the "cool kids" in elementary school that snickered about the most bereft in jokes ever like retards that have zero fucking character or life ahead of them beyond being validated by a fellow group of hollow retardsholy shit why are you people like this? just be fucking human loser. I can't wait for AI to get sophisticated enough to directly reflect how much bot behaviour this is.
>>500200606You don't know shit about SFxT if you genuinely believe that it wasn't a neutral heavy game>jumping could lead to full juggles >you could roll towards the opponent on wakeup >many matches ended in a time over>every normal has chain combo value, but were heavily scaled based on the strength >universal reversal mechanic
SFxT neuch was something else brohttps://youtu.be/_l6twZ_fLr8?feature=shared
huh oh lil 23er is angry
>>500201118lol...pee pee...lol hehe
>>500200606>in what way is vf not just a point blank 3d masherPlay it and find out, I ain't a strategy guide
>>500201329missing on sfxt is prob my biggest regret
>>500201324this is the most anti neutral think I have ever heard in my fucking life. rolling? nigga serious? juggles are neutral? nigga serious?>>many matches ended in a time overyou know this shit happened in SF4 too right? nigga serious?
>>500201226What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>500201628nta but you're a retard
>>500201527Why? It died instantly everyone hated it
>>500201329most matches of any game would seem very neutral heavy if the two retards playing couldn't covert shit into a full combo and failed to block punish wake-up DPs
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>>500201527Ehh it’s a fun game when you get matches and know what to do. But it’s still irks me picking default gems. Like the game having it be hardcoded is fucking stupid. And the cope psychoBlue(only nigga running tourneys for it) tells us about “oh the gems are like ism’s” and I’m like nah, not really. It’s a shitty Dev idea that crumpled this games future in the womb.
>>500201843>Why? It died instantlythats why>everyone hated itidc about "everyone". "Everyone" watches maximilian and thinks cinematic supers are hype. the game looks good looking back on it, and the opinion of players I value like Smug/punk was positive toward the game
>>500201628>rolling?escaping pressure on KD. You can regular get up, tech, or roll. Set ups are less likely to cover all three options.>juggles are neutral?Jumping is a neutral skip. Anti-Airs having higher damage discourage jumpingdumb ass nigga
>>500202130>Jumping is a neutral skip.We are a few steps away from someone claiming whiff punishing is a neutral skip.
>>500202276>"sf is known for its ground based gameplay" niggas when you have powerful AA tools :
>>500202103https://youtu.be/yhB80oXjdJI?feature=sharedMad free huh
normal jumps aren't neutral skips but while we're on it they definitely do way too much fucking damage and contribute to the clown factor of these games
>>500201980beckmon double anal with your /sfg/ bro
>>500201843>>500202103The general public definitely hated it. From the moment this trailer dropped.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSKidYxGzcQThey hated the art style, they hated the music, they hated the sound effects, they hated the lack of stages, the lack of a real story. Most of all though, they hated the on-disc DLC.I remember defending this shit here and buying it on launch. Made me not want to pre order games anymore.
>>500202406jumps need to be made weaker, not AAs made stronger
>>500202682>They hated the art style, they hated the music, they hated the sound effectsbut that's all basically the same as in sf4
>>500202578this but with just an onahole and your sfg bro
>>500202578
>>500202682>They hated the art style, they hated the music, they hated the sound effects, they hated the lack of stages, the lack of a real story.But enough of sf6
>>500202464>that tranny ken custom color
Manon is somehow the most upplayed character in this game it's crazy. In normie circles I see them all the time calling it propaganda to say she's weak
>>500202464SFxT Law was so fun to play.
>>500202721bet you felt 400iq typing this
>>500202578Disgusting. I think the onahole guy is less gay than you.
>secret hot take>lily is SF6 's makoto without the popularity, or strength>fact
>>500203160that's a child
>>500202568Because some character DPs have too much forward movement to cover a certain angle or some characters are allowed to rip your penis off for daring to jump at them while others can only just send angry family-griendly anonymous letters to you.
>>500200606some youtuber must have released a "top 10 neutral games" and those games were on it.
>>500203105yes i did :)
>>500201980Reportable under "advertising or begging" btw
>>500203160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgeH1wFZAmc
>>500203307Give me a number
>>500203292>quasi grappler>fast forward moving neutral skip button across the screen>weird juggles>weird amount of air control>short hot midget bitchI see it
sf6 jumps in being dumb is def due to devs thinking parry was gonna be the response to it
>>500202768The character models have a liquid filter on them. Like a thin layer of oil or water, this is intentional. I do like the lighting and colors better, as it has a bit more contrast than USFIV. People wanted more iconic music themes that both series are known for. I may be mistaken but the only stages that do that are Mad Gear Hideout and Mishima Estate (which are the best stages in the game). The sound effects are different, compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zW7oWa3pYk to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Rv9sspORE>>500202962Even though some members of the core audience feel this way about SF6, the casuals don't really. They hated SFxT.
What does drive impact add to the game?>broken specials will be spam-isn't that what perfect parry is for?removing drive impact would allow poking to be more reliable, forcing people to whiff punish more, leading to more consistent outcomes.
>>500203292>without the popularityMakoto isn't that popular either to be honest. Lili would be as popular as Makoto if she was any good.
>Japan premier this weekend>Before top 8>Arena goes dark >Spraypaint sounds emblazon the capcom logo on the big screen>"Announcing ________ to be released this month!"
>>500203794Newer players can't do PP, so DI is better for them and they're able to get a combo from there. Also it's much less scaled than PP
>>500203959new avatar gear
>>500203959NEW BURRITO FOIL FOR MY AVATAR
>>500203794DI kinda functions as a real parry that actually requires really good reactions or prediction. like DI'ing dragonlash or manon's overhead. the problem is how often you get lucky for just throwing it out especially against a cornered opponent since its unblockable and so many normals can't DI cancel or you just get unlucky and miss your cancel window
>>500203959>"Announcing chipotle staff gear for avatars"
Broski is going to the Japan major this weekend, will you be cheering him on?I'd like to see an AKI in capcup
>>500204461
>>500203959Goku
>>500204637DELETE THIS, NO BULLY
Broski has...interesting fundamentals
>>500204637wow, people really just fucking mashed in sf5 didn't they? no wonder they hated the game
Dudley is a paki right?
>>500205081Sagat was hard to use in SF5
>>500204637compared to dix, its insane how often this webm returns to neutral despite ken being a rushdown character and broski just pressing shit. i almost forgot that street fighter could be this good.
>>500204461no, this faggot was part of the infiltration cancellation train despite getting a second chance himself for all the shit he said.
i didn't do my drills today....am..i..really into street fighter??
>>500204637why didn't sagat drive rush after fireball????
>>500204637KAMI MUHFUGGIN 5
okay, no joke. no lie. what is the most interesting and fun character to play in this game? a character that you'll almost never get tired of? one that doesn't follow the rules of SF6, but also doesn't succumb to them too hard? I'm tired of playing my honest fundamental character like Manon. she's my main, but I just need something to fucking let loose. I need my sylas equivalent for sf6, a character I pick almost always when I just want to have fun.
>>500205270That makes me respect Broski more
>>500205260Its also interesting to note that sfV was criticized for having too much corner carry.Compare how much corner carry Ken gets after a CH st.hk to how much he'd get in 6
>>500205339You'll be ok as long as you keep masturbating to the characters
>>500205270>infiltration cancellation trainIs Infiltration innocent or something?
>>500205446Elena
>>500205762chuds think that not liking someone who chokes his wife and threatens her life makes you a blue haired tranny
broski gay
is he right? https://youtu.be/swi4GG1ghL4?si=OHmIAqLuhOdPRWYx
>>500205762these are the facts-his ex wife had a bruised wrist -infiltration said some messed up shit to his wife-infiltration let people he knew, who were good at other fighting games, enter a noobie tournament for a fighting game they hadn't played, so people called it bracket fixinganything else you read is bullshit.
Jambo?
>>500205601So both games had him deliver top Corner carrying in among the respective casts of both games.
>>500206249Konnichiwa
https://streamable.com/i0nfdwhttps://streamable.com/9er2gwWould really appreciate some advice on these 2 games. My LP rate has really stagnated. Thanks.
