Warmato>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2024-update.40951/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>500139209
Vindicta best girl.
quantummm entangelment
>>500203446even ironically putting your rank in your name is just weird
Sex with Abrams
So are we going to have to wait 2 weeks for hero lab patches too? Or will they be separate from the game patches?
Eheheh...you see that shit? Heheheheheh
I really did not like magician. I found his gun unbearable and his abilities tepid at best
I am BEYOND fucked, I am not gonna make it.
>>500203562The schizo told me to put my rank in my name so everyone knew how shit I was, so I put a rank 30 ranks higher to piss him off
>>500203478
>>500203562he's trying to trick people into think he's actually good
>>500203731Jesus christ, did he really try to tornado into charged melee? Don't ever let someone disrespect you like that.
>buffed ShivI'm out
>>500203978Dynamo's got one of the best designs in this game currentlyAbsolutely in love with this character
>>500204081Shiv cannot EVER be anything but a top 3 character don't you DARE mock his name, this development team is extremely competent and totally not wastes of air stealing paychecks.
>>500204118The game is full of really good designs if I'm being honest.
>>500203317I RABBU KAORI-CHAN!!!!!!
>>500204263
>>500204258atm its just a mix of everything, im hoping we get at least one more conventionally attractive woman tbqh
uhh
>>500204380yamato, probably
>>500204205You live at my leisure.
>>500204118When will they change grey talon to not be a fat little grandma?
>>500204435You can use it to dodge vindicta headshots, holy based
>>500204464Ideally never, so that they can sell $20 skins that make you actually enjoy looking at the character on screen.
Welcome to my world, boys and girls.
i dont even know what to do when im behind as gunbop other than roll over
I asked this earlier but didn't get an answer, but does anyone know if tomorrows rank comes before or after the ranked queue window?
>>500204890it's 8 PM GMT which i think is the start of the NA ranked windowif you are in EU i have no idea
I'm new to the new and after trying every hero I think my favorites are Warden, Viscous and Paradox. Will I be okay if I only focus on those three or are they shit?
>>500205216viscous is nearly impossible to kill and probably the most consistent teamfight disruptor in the gamewarden is a menace in low MMR but i have no idea how he performs in high MMRparadox is top tier in comp games but has trouble in pubs
>>500204118love his designwish I loved his play style
>>500205436His playstyle is a ton of fun but if you're not into supports, he definitely isn't for youHonestly I struggle having fun with any other character that *isnt* dynamo
Why have they not just removed the urn from the game?
everyone should get their own personal urn
>>500204435finally someone else discovered thisi know no one in their right mind would buy alchemical fire as bepop but it's funny it took this long for me to see anyone else that noticed this
>>500205545I've talked a lot with yoshi about urn over the months I can tell he wants a different kind of cooperative-objective instead of just killing another big monster, and I'm all for it, but Urn is going to require a ton of work to make enjoyable
>>500205154ok thanks a lot my g
>>500204890Last week there was an update shortly before ranked opened for the day, I assume it will be the same this week.
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
sure of power on infernus?
>>500205532>gay man can only have fun playing supportmany such cases
>>500205828I'm unsure
>>500205828trash, don't even think about it
>>500205832Yeah and I absolutely fucking sweep
>>500205828what like on his 2 to run faster? might be alright i guess
>>500205828I used it on melee infernus on flame dash to go faster and it was ok
>>500205828no
Ancients should drop urns
playable urn character
They should restrict buying Knockdown on Lash like you can't buy extra charge items on heroes that don't have charges
>>500206448there's one of these in the console
>>500204435
>>500206507Shut up and get bonked, bitch.
How is Kelvin these days?
>>500205693i could actually kind of see it working on gunbop, place fire, hook+silence+uppercut straight up (which im pretty sure still counts as in the fire), easy 50% more wep damage
>>500206608Kevin
>>500204118Personally I prefer his VN design, but his game design is still one of the better ones.
>>500206738>which im pretty sure still counts as in the fireiirc alch fire isn't a sphere, it's a pancake like kudzu, so no it wouldn't work
>>500206808Might be a skin later
normal matchmaking is unplayable now. I have over 400 hours in the game and I have seen more ragequit disconnects in the last week than I have in those past 400~ hours. It's actually insane. Not only that but since ranked dropped i've seen an alarming amount of actual shitters in my matches. I mean serious shitters. I have not had this much trouble with teammates lacking map awareness literally EVERY GAME. If i'm not lanejanny, we will lose. It's so fucking absurd like i'm seriously mind boggled by how bad my normal matches have been. I played 8 games of ranked last night and it was almost night and day, even the matches I lost were due to more minor issues than just everyone on my team not knowing how to look at the map and just ignoring obvious ganks or knowing when to rotate to a lane etc.
I honestly don't even understand why they buffed Shiv again. He felt fine to me after the recent nerfs, still really strong even.
>>500206608unplayable, the beam is a lot worse than your gun, so you only have 3 skills
How do I win lane against Seven help I paused the game just to ask this question
>>500206738Question for Bebop playersUsually when I'm in a teamfight and Bebop hooks someone, while he's doing his combo if I have Stake up I Stake them to Bebop's position so they don't fly very far away, unless he's obviously trying to throw them into a walker.Do you guys like this or should I stop messing with your combo?
>>500207460Shoot him until he dies.
>>500206808no that VN look is atrociousthe disconnected head is much better
i love these chat bubbles
>>500207368Too hard to build up rage. If they're gonna make it so he can hardly build rage from minions, then buffing his general rage build up is fair.
>>500207643Mirage would totally say this.
>>500207643It's an extremely soulful UI choice
>>500207475i think gunbop would invariably love that, bombbop probably doesn't care either way since they often run away after the combo and the enemy being pinned there doesn't affect their ability to do that
>>500207475Nah if someone gets hooked just fucking throw everything you have at them to kill them ASAP. Getting that pick is often the difference maker late game
>>500207460Shoot his headPlay smart with covers, (don't stick to them, ball can still hit you)Buy barriers/hollow point ward don't rely on regenStay away from your creeps so his 3 can't poke youIf you're not in solo lane save your partner from stuns
>>500207643not in all caps, not lore accurate
>playing vindicta>win lane handily>most kills on my team>feel like i'm a threat, and whenever i press 2 enemy team has to scatter like rats>took down a walker or two while the enemy wasn't looking>usually top 3 in most souls in the game>buying items that counter the enemy>still missing some lethal ult shots and could probably avoid some deaths, but overall feel like i'm playing pretty well>lose anywayi dunno dude, do i just have to play her perfect or something? my current record with her is 6 wins out of 22 games
>>500204118I don't know whats better, Lash shittalking you all the time or hearing Mirage yell ''FOR NASHRALAH'' while laning next to you
>>500208181maybe try clicking buildings
>>500207319yeah anyone with a brain is now playing ranked and the bong squad is on normal matches
>>500208181Unless you're 6x better than the entire enemy team, you can't carry games to victory yourself and you have to rely on your teammates to help you. You're going to lose games a lot.
>>500207368>>500207652yeah if youre crying about shiv you havent seen mole buffs dude. i swear people look at kill #s and think that's the only thing that matters when evaluating who did the "most". He has an execute ability he's naturally going to have the most kills unless he's total ass>>500208181backliners dont control initiations so if your frontliners suck you lose. that's the problem
>>5002081816/22 is really really bad youre probably not itemizing correctly honestly and wasting your early lead.
>>500207460Ward his jungle
>>500207643one of the best things about this game
>>500208224BEETLE
>>500208482I'm not crying about the Shiv buffs, he's my main and I just think he was fine before.
>>500207652>shiv uses decay and actually lands a knifethe devs are disconnected from actual play and understanding
>be shiv>build punch damage>for some reason shiv punch scales really hard with weapon damage, harder than abrams>punch people for literally 1k damagethis is stupid
thank you for liking my drawings here's another one in works
>>500208962It's just that his rage damage bonus applies to his melee, he doesn't scale any harder with weapon damage on his punches.
>>500208993they're cute
>>500208181Vindicta is not a playmaker, you can't 1v6 like some other heroes, you need team to start a fight, protect you and push lanes. There's simply nothing you can do with shit team
>>500207643Someone post the one where Warden is talking about Vindicta's feet and the Haze is the next lane DC'd
>>500208181If you're just stealing kills and getting exit frags you're not doing anythingYou want to be changing the fate of 1v1s that were going to be lost and removing people from team fights that would have escaped/healed so that your team gets advantage, and then pushing an objective off of that advantageVery late game you can be the merchant of death that just straight up deletes strings of people while your team follows you around like your posse, but most of the time your goal is making sure Abrams gets deleted before he gets his next healing punch off, or Haze melts before she gets your entire team down, or Wraith/Pocket/Mirage get Staked before they can teleport to safety and come back in 15 seconds.
>>500205370Sounds good, thanks
>>500208763he was fine if you never fell behind but if you did you could go 5+ minutes without getting rage up and dying over and over it was too annoying. The ult range reduction was a bit too much as well. The original range was super stupid though you could use to to jump snipers and double knife them lol
How do you guys build Magician and Wrecker? I've been enjoying Calico and Slork a lot, but I can't figure out how to make those two effective.
>>500209376>The original range was super stupid though you could use to to jump snipers and double knife them lolI miss being able to do that. Now I just buy knockdown every single game. That feels like a buff to me though because knockdown is super valuable to have on Shiv and I never should've neglected it lol.
>>500208962two OP things being combined
>>500209167>Vindicta is not a playmakerI feel like me being present, not getting picked, and securing at least 1 kill on a hero that's difficult for the ground plebs to deal with (Abrams, Shiv, Haze, Infernus, Dynamo, Ivy, M&K) is regularly the difference between my team winning or losing a team fightI agree with the rest of your post tho you basically have to play it like a support role
>>500208993good frogg
>>500206071I tested it in sandbox when I was trying to make a meme flame dash build, and you run the same distance with and without Surge, so I think the run speed during flame dash is unaffected by it.
>>500205783The problems with urn are that it's carryable, binary, and it's shared between teams. So 1. The max speed is however fast someone can move in the game, which leads to a bunch of cheese2. It's possible for one team to put in a ton of work getting it somewhere and get nothing out of itand 3. It's possible to steal it at the last minute by sneaking in or winning one teamfightInstead, it should be one personal objective per team that moves at a constant rate and has checkpoints along the way that give souls, to force the enemy team to fight it the whole way through.Make it like, a slow-moving ghost carrying an urn, and he drops unsecured souls behind him as he flies around, but denying doesn't give any souls, only securing. And then it's even better because the method of interacting with the objective is still "shoot it", like a big monster, so you're not forced to stand still and defend one spot in a game about movement. And each team would have one. And he'd just fly from like, your outermost objective still standing on the leftmost lane to the enemy's outermost objective on the rightmost lane.
>>500209167LMAO she is a playmaker
>>500210138she has the softest movement-restricting CC in the game
>>500209508I've just switched to mole it's more fun and less difficult. He plays basically the same way where i run in like a giga tard except I only need to land one button this time
>>500210051laaame
>>500207643read it in his voice
SHIV PASSIVE REWORKED: 3 NOW GIVES PASSIVE 1M/S MOVESPEED BASED ON HOW MANY HEROES ARE BELOW 60% HP. CAPS AT 6 M /S
>>500208259>get comm banned because russians spam report you>can't play ranked>sent to the shadow realm of unranked
>>500210051>>500210324you can put it on catalyst and treat it like ghetto fleetfoot.
>>500208993Cute keep up the practice
>>500210763htanks !
Hmm I think will play lash
>>500208993Pocket and Yamato? Explain this ship
How to fix Deadlock:>Shiv passive replaced with Armlet of Mordiggian
>>500211043racial segregation
>>500210124None of those are bad things. I've told him the sameAll of those things are present in other mobas;>the max speed is however fast someone can move, which leads to cheeseHeroes can and should be allowed to have these strengths. That's why Ursa/Huskar are some of the scariest heroes in Dota, because both can take Roshan on their own if you aren't careful.>Its possible for one team to put a ton of work in, and get nothing from it>It's possible to steal it last minuteThese are also present in other MOBAs. That's why when you take objectives, you need to think "can I take this, AND secure it"Aegis can be stolen, Baron Nashor can be stolen via Smite, Rejuv can be stolen with a good dive, etc.These mechanics are in place because losing teams need a means of attaining some form of comeback. Otherwise, the second a team begins to lose, you'd never be able to come back ever. Games would be decided in 10 minutes and the next 20 minutes are just the losing team praying the winning team makes some world-ending-tier mistake.The reason I suggested melee forcing enemies to drop urn (which we eventually got) was because Urn had to be capable of being more reliably stolen.That way it shares more similarities to these other objectives, despite being a sort of payload objective instead of a straight up neutral monster bossI still have a lot of ideas for urn to change that I've been communicating, I just hope he gives them some thought
how do I stop warden from just activating ult and walking towards me until I die in lane>just dash away lolI already spent it all escaping gay baby jail + that means he gets tower for free because they die in 2s now
>win 1v1 against Haze because I stunned him out of his ult>he buys Slowing Hex just for meThe Hazecel fears the Chadbrams
>>500211230his ult takes two seconds to channel, you got time to run
>>500211230it's a 2.5 min cd just dont use your ult and go kill him after he uses it
I was wondering why the lash in my team was fucking useless. That's the first time I see a lash refusing to buy majestic leap.
>>500203478In this experiment we make Warden meet his maker.
>>500211792Lash doesn't need Majestic Leap.
>>500211043i think they're neatalso both are like "prince" and "princess" to powerful organizations that they had to run from
>a warden buying shieldsew
>>500211960>active reload>...on dynamo
>>500212006and they're both asian
>spirit lifesteal>...on haze
>>500212110dont bullyit's an early buy so I can easily kill many neutrals
>>500211197But other MOBAs are shit (well, this one too) so I don't know what your point is. Overly binary objectives """"balanced""" around the theoretical possibility of stealing them has always been one of the biggest sticking points in the genre. It was just hard to do anything about it in games that control as slowly as MOBAs. You have to create objectives that fit the limitations of the genre, the limited camera angle, the clunky controls, the slow movement speed, the inflexible gameplay.What we have now is an FPS, where you can aim at things on a dime and travel up a building or across the entire map in a few seconds. We don't have to limit ourselves to the same design paradigms. Consider my ghost idea more and you'll realize how good and flexible it is and how it makes use of all this game's strengths.
>>500210231But it's the only one that works through teleports, and she has the strongest "Remove player" ability
Saw a spirit Haze in ranked.We won_
>>500212404why are you lying about your rank? People know you're in alchemist
>>500212370I just build like basic mag, high velocity, close quarters, kinetic dash, get 2 points 1, 2 points 2, 2 points 4, 3 points 3. had no difficulty farming.
>>500212404>But it's the only one that works through teleportsi don't actually know what this means, does it stop people from teleporting?>and she has the strongest "Remove player" abilityyeah but her damage is primarily single-targethow are you making plays with an ult that kills 1 guy who was already low
anyone else getting random stutters since the last big patch?shit sucks and i don't know what's causing it.
>>500212392I get what you're saying anon, but these objectives exist in this manner for a reason, and I already gave it to you. Your perspective on the whole issue is a little narrow-sightedIf a team grew ahead, every form of objective would be uncontestable. That's why losing teams lose buildings and can rarely defend them from the stronger winning team.If you couldn't steal things like Aegis or Baron, those mechanics wouldn't exist at all, because they would only exist for a winning team to make an even bigger uncontestable advantage for themselves.And these objectives make the games interesting and provide more niche strengths for heroes.>Some heroes can take Urn really well (M&K/Ivy/Kelvin)>Some heroes can take midboss really well (McGinnis/Haze)just like how some heroes are good at farming, or good at teamfighting, etc.And lastly, the point of these objectives is to create opposition for both teams. They're things that force teams to interact beyond pushing buildings. These objectives exist for both teams to approach on even footing, even map terrain, and nothing like worrying about buildings, map advantage, or creep waves to get in the way. Its instances like these where strategy plays a much bigger role and individual players can really make a difference, instead of winning via raw manpower and items. Its these things that make the genre diverse and much more interesting as a player and as a spectator.
>>500213158this happens after every big patcha random segment of the playerbase will just get shitty performance for no obvious reasonhasn't been happening to me this time but has happened for multiple past patches
I have 254 hours and i never played Geist and Paradox.
>>500213294I have 500 hours and I haven't played half the cast
>>500213294Dude I've only played like 5 heroes in 600 hours of playingDynamo makes up at least 550 of them
they should add a new neutral objective that requires you to move and fight on rooftops
>>500213417>that comicthat sadistic fuck of an artist should be burned
>>500213417Begone furfag!
spirit meta would be so aids with just multiple AOE and cchope Ivy gets her gutting soon
>>500213158I've been getting stutters for 3-4 weeks now. It's bad.
>>500212458was he in your team?
Hello, my name is wraith, I press 4, then hold M1 and still kill through return fire because for some goddamn reason, some nigger dev thought it was a good idea to let her throw card while firing her broken gun. I am very balanced.
>>500214360low IQ post
>>500214343Yes.
>>500213158i had the opposite just now, played lash and suddenly, for about 3s i was sailing through the air with buttery smooth fps (like i should have all the time at lowest settings and 144hz but its alpha)
>>500213256>If a team grew ahead, every form of objective would be uncontestableI am not going to accept your proofless mathematical statement that no form of objective can be contested by the losing team save for specifically what we have now.Like I said, the ghost idea is good. A ghost flies around dropping souls that you have to secure. You know why? Because it follows the basic principles of laning. For the losing team, it's the same as focusing on last hits and secures, it's something they can do from relative safety that they can't be overly punished for. For the winning team, it forces them to focus on something other than the enemy team, waste time, ammo, and map control over a prolonged period on an objective that doesn't immediately advance the game state.If you make objectives that force the winning team to stay on THEIR side of the map to make use of them, they're tacitly giving the losing team map control while they do those objectives. The majority of your post is needless overgrandization of a really shitty mechanic from a bad genre so I don't feel the need to address it.
>>500214360high iq post wraiths broken
>>500212458spirit haze is legitimately really good until like 18 minutes into the game, then it's bad. Rush melee items + echo shard. sleep -> heavy -> sleep -> heavy -> shoot and you fuckin' murder people
>>500204464We could have had Nightwolf. We got Oldwolf instead.
Who do you think is the strongedt 1v1 laner? Who is the weakest?>strongestPocket I think>weakestIvy
>>500214745wraith is strongestidk about weakest, probably paradox
>>500214545>the ghost idea is good.no it isn'tyou're asking for the game to come to a halt every 5 or 10 minutes while both teams follow their respective ghost and ignore the enemy teamor maybe you want it to be done by only 1 member of each team? in which case the player who's lowest on souls goes and does it and maybe gets a +25% bonus like from the urn while the rest of the two teams fight over a real objective somewhere else and enjoy their stream of free soulsthere's nothing to fight over here, it's more like a tormentor than a true neutral objective - but even tormentors can be stolen
>get Dynamo and end up 1v1 Vindicta>"aw shit this is going to be terrible">actually mildly win lane until I get gankers from our lost lanesI was pleasantly surprised desu
Post your confessionsWhen playing Bebop I intentionally hook my team mates sometimes on purpose and say it was an accident if they ask. I do this to all my team mates once per game
>>500214745Strongest is viscousWeakest is ivy>>500215015>probably paradoxYou are fucking retarded paradox is literally one of the strongest laners in the game
>>500215015I think wraith isn't that bad. I've only gone up against her a few times but I always buy reactive barrier and survive all her ults. I think pocket is infinitely more cancer because he can juke a lot of nukes and CC easily
>>500215071I think Gray Talon players should be sodomized with an industrial power drill.t. Alchemist
>>500214545Dumbass.I shouldn't have entertained your stupid argument.How embarrassing for both of us.
>>500214648why echo shard when you can just use knockdown instead?
>>500215071I think Gray Talon players should be sodomized with an industrial power drill.t. eternus
>>500215071>my teammate has 10 hp and is about to get gangraped by the entire enemy team>hook him out>"thanks":-)
>>500215312why not both
>>500212552No thanks.
>>500214745>Who do you think is the strongest 1v1 laner?in terms of "winning" in the sense of getting more souls and shutting the other guy down? paradoxin a literal 1v1 fight? probably abrams
>>500215312Because the dart is most of the damage
>>500215395>i have no stamina, 20% health and i'm in the middle of 4 of the enemy team>bebop hooks me and uppercuts me straight into our fountain, and i livei was in awe
>>500215071>teammate bebop hooks me out of dynamo ult>"play safer u retard haze">"y-yeah sorry m-my bad..."
>>500214360While this is a ragepost it is true. Wraiths is overloaded as fuck while being easy to use. She's got a fast charging spirit nuke, the greatest escape skill (other than Goo Ball), a solid gun steroid, point and click stun that becomes a Dynamo ult lategame for some reason and a great gun. The only thing her kit doesn't have is heal. But since she shits outdamage a little bit of leech is enough. Honestly the most disgusting hero of the current cast.
>paradox is one of the strongest laners in the gameexplain (not a meme)
>>500212619It will bring Mirage Tornado/Wraith/Pocket back to the stake after they try and jump
>>500210417>CAPS AT 6 M /Syawn
>>500215776>It will bring Mirage Tornado/Wraith/Pocket back to the stake after they try and jumpdamn that's fucked
when are they adding the surrender option?
>>500215848Unplug your internet so that people think you crashed
>>500215947>pauses the game for 3 minutes
>>500215664carbine, wall and grenade are all insane during laning
>>500215848never, lolbab
>>500215093>paradox strong lanerthe bomb is bad, the carbine has an insanely long cd and wall just doesnt do anything earlygame, ult is also kinda lackluster when you dont have a teammate nearbyidk but ive only ever played vs one good paradox and while he hit almost all of his carbines he had to work his ass off to draw the lanemeanwhile wraith shoots you to get more damage while shooting you, idk
>>500215848Valve game. No surrender button. If you can't take the heat don't queue. 90% of pro Dota 2 games seem decided after 10 minutes so...
>>500215848Nobody actually wants this, especially not in a game like this that is so come backableif you want to play a game that caters to your pissbaby ego go back to league
>>500214360>>500215598Run eshift she isn't top 5 most cancer in the game>Comparing Wraith ult to Dynamo ultOoooh you're really shitlow huh. Some other ways to avoid her ult include Pocket briefcase, Viscous cube, M&K burrow, Infernus run, Dynamo orb, Yamato ult, McGinnis wall, Kelvin ice path, Abrams charge, Lash grapple, and Ivy statue
>>500215664>time wall lets you dance around the opponent because they can't run through it repeatedly without dying>carbine + grenade is insane burst damage and carbine can be used to zone while you last hit>grenade area denial>swap (le worse bebop hook meme isn't even true because carbine sets you up for a free swap)Her entire kit is very flexible for winning lanes but I'm sure Bug Shaker or one of our 2 or 3 resident Paradox downplay spammers will come tell me this is all wrong and she's trash or whatever
>>500215848definitely not in an alphai remember one game where my team randomly decided the game was over and I was like "dude wtf guys we're stronger just group" and then we won every teamfight. I thought they were fine farming up their items solo but they were just mentally boomed for no reason lol.
>>500216093my favorite way to dodge wraith ult is just turn around and leave
>>500203317i did everything i could but it wasn't enough. all my souls were from pushing.i bullied the shit out of their badass haze in lane and she avoided me for the rest of the game.i was even dunking on their ivy after that.they just kept feeding right out of spawn,i told them to stop dying but they wouldn't listen.at a certain point there's nothing you can do.
>>500215237Wraith just gets to giga poke while hard scaling, the ult in lane is the least of your worries until later.
>>500216319According to people in this general it's completely unavoidable
>>500216319warp stone and 4 roll charges and bait her into my rape tunnels as shiv
>>500216389Enemy team had vindicta so you just lose, sorry chud, should've played better in hero selct.
>>500216435That isn't really on Wraith, that's more on the devs for making some heroes broken in lane only to fall off later game. Ideally they make certain strong laners less oppressive, but give them better scaling.
>>500216461if the wraith is good it is because her blink is longer than anything you can do. She can't ult in certain areas where blink might not work, but skilled wraiths know where the guaranteed ults are
>>500216628But wraith doesn't fucking falls off she just gets better and better.
>>500216598>Lash has 10k more damage than herbut sure, it's Vindicta that won
>>500216389dying doesnt matter you basically made the game a 5v6 and had 1/3 the building damage of wraith, you cant out split a wraith you should have just brooled
>>500216059>the bomb is badit hits through walls or at their shop for a long time and its also really good for farming your early camp without actually wasting any time because the stacking damage amp works per wave meaning it boosts itself. it forces people out into the open very well and if they're being unga its still good>carbine has an insanely long cd because you buy basic mag + mystic burst and now carbine does 120 with no falloff (1/5th someones lifebar) + however many bullets land while their stuck - if they hide to wait out the cooldown then you've forced them to stop shooting at you/most of your creeps and then you just get a free creep kill or hitscan soul deny instead. it's also good if they hide and good if they rush you down>wall just doesnt do anything earlygamebesides completely stop all the characters who just want to shoot you the entire fucking lane from doing so. it prevents you from hiding in a cuck shed when snipers are flying overhead because you can just put a wall in the way instead. if they're playing safe from a distance you can put a wall up to slow their bullets and deny souls. >ult is also kinda lackluster when you dont have a teammate nearbyyou can still swap people into your tower and swap into wall and swap into carbine are both a nice grip of damage and more important a large chunk of healing on a low cooldown.
My theory is that Pocket was originally a woman who after faking her death decided to contract a genderbend spirit and also a shit ton of spirits so she can keep track of every human in Earth like a schizo.
>>500216815Vindicta has 13 kills and 13 assists, a fair amount of those kills printed souls for her team, swap that vindicta for some shit like yamato or viscous and would you actually tell me with a straight face the result would be the same?
>>500216789Wraith scales well but she's squishy for most of the game>But her TP!Slowing hex
>>500216918who cares if it's a guy or a girl, I want to fuck them
>>500208807They actually silently nerfed decay on shiv. It used to build up rage at any distance but now it seems like if a player is X distance away from shiv, decay doesn't do anything. The same PROBABLY applies to any DoT but it doesn't feel like it happens with knives. Additionally, shiv doesn't build up a ton of rage through spirit damage until late game. I've unironically stopped using decay on shiv, it just does not feel like it builds up rage much at all now. I've switched to running slowing hex.
>>500216956If vindicta was swapped out with Abrams then they would've won faster
>>500216918My theory is that Pocket is a gay man and that's why his player-base is all gay men
>>500214745>Pocket I thinkPocket gets raped by any hero that deals good spirit damage. I think M&K vs Pocket is literally an impossible match up for pocket unless the M&K is shit
>>500215017>both teams follow their respective ghost and ignore the enemy teamThis is like saying that the game is going to come to a halt every 5 or 10 minutes while both teams farm their own jungles and ignore the enemy team. That obviously doesn't happen, so why would it happen here?
Kinda crazy how every mo and krill I see is always wildly out of position miles ahead of the team. Why is this?
ranked is up
>>500216389not haze, i meant to say wraith.the hero names are so generic in this game.>>500216826well it kinda does matter when there are only two people alive on our team.since when is wraith a better pusher than mcginnis?i couldn't really take any objectives later in the game because i was the only one pushing, really. my deaths are from trying to take a walker and getting ganked, and also at the very end.i still have the most objective damage on my team.i can't really be everywhere at once.
>>500217404cause he can
>>500216956souls don't matter, damage does, if she has 50k but lash with 39k outperformed her it means those souls were wasted on her. You're fucking mindbroken
>>500217404They're all stoned 24/7
>>500217404you better get over here and kill who i stun or i break my items to buy magic carpet chud
>>500217398Because the ghost is only in one place at a time while the jungle is spread out over the entire map.
>>500217404braindead mongoloids getting carried by their broken hero
>>500213417Yiff in hell dogfucking tourist
>>500217404>why is the tank being a tank?The idea is that either you push lanes while the enemy is distracted with the unkillable landshark, or maybe you can even kill the enemy while they are distracted with the giant unkillable landshark(if you decide to help your tank, he can even hold one of the enemies down for you while you shoot them!)
>>500215664Laning is all about cover and Paradox plays around cover the best. She has a grenade to flush people out, a wall to create her own instant cover, a bit snipe shot that she can pop out of cover to use and which keeps them out of their own cover, and a swap that switches the relative positional advantages of both players (i.e. if you're not in cover and they are, it's now the opposite).
>>500217404because those faggots know they can get away with it
Geist feels like shit to play
>>500217510her damage is comparable and she can avoid ganks better. mcginnis is better if her team is somewhat nearby because she can hold her ground with turretsmcginnis is just a better laner and can snowball off of it. I really think you probably misplayed this game cause i've seen this type of mcginnis play in my ranked and despite them being their best player I know if they showed up a bit more in fights we would have lost.
>>500217584You have to actually explain why that difference would change anything.
>>500217676>while the enemy is distracted with the unkillable landshark*knockdowns you out of burrow**shoulder charges you into a wall and slaps you for 1/3rd of your hp**assassinate you for free 850 souls because Mo has 0 resists without burrow*
>>500217770>>500217510also wraith has a built in counter gank tool, 2 people show up to defend walker? wraith blinks to the teleporter and quickly rushes the other lane with ult to kill the enemy team with her stun while they're out numberedshe takes advanntage of the skewed map way better than mcginnis does, which is why if youre against a wraith you should just group more than splitpush
Maybe a good time for an inhouse 6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ
Shiv bros, do we pick up duration? I did the testing and "rage buffer" by default is 9 seconds, imbued duration brings that up to 12 seconds. You COULD imbue it on knives for an extra 2 seconds but personally, I feel like that's somewhat redundant since if you use knives correctly you'll be stacking 2-3 knives on one person which refreshes it's duration. I actually like duration a lot for the stats too. +175 health, 15% weapon damage, and 4 regen + the 12 power since it's a purple item. It pretty much gives shiv everything he wants.
>>500217981If you're at the skill level where people buy Knockdown then you're also at the skill level where people will actually follow up with their tank, so you just get team-wiped after wasting all these crucial CDs on the enemy tank :)
>>500217974If the ghost gives enough souls to be worth doing then it MUST be done. That means at least one player has to drop what they're doing and go do their team's ghost. If you don't, then the other team will just do their ghost and now they're ahead on souls.If the ghost doesn't give enough souls to be worth doing then it won't get done ever, because you'll get more value out of pushing towers.
>>500218191Probably if youre not dagger build , but if you ARE dagger there are better items IMO
>>500217770i grabbed curse early but it didn't last long enough for me to finish anyone most of the time.usually i do use a teamfight as a distraction to push but the problem was that my team would only push one lane so it was hard to capitalize.i bounced between the solo lanes alot to keep them pushed but if i got close to the guardians they all rotate on me.
>>500217981nigga i die 15+ times a game with mo and krill and have won all but one of my games because of apes like you wasting stuns on me>>500218230this guy is right, you either kite me efficiently or you lose. and I will do my best to cuck your carry with my stun if you do ignore me.
>>500217084Wraith doesn't need to give a shit about your slowing hex, she just presses 4 and you're dead.
>melee resist as a statbut why tho?melee builds are already character specific and walking up to someone just to punch them is already putting yourself at extreme riskwhy did yoshi make a stat that fucks over only specific characters?
>>500218757Just gank her.
>>500218856>presses 4oops, still dead
We need an item that grants Shiv resistance
>>500216093>Ults next to you from shadow weave.Heh nothing personel
>>500218827because every aspect of the game should have counterbuild options
>>500217543>souls don't matterwood mmr take
>>500218527depends on krill team action, if you just try to go in and killed after single knockdown, no turning 6v6 into 5v6 for single fucking 3k souls item CD is not worth it
>>500218115need 8 more for inhouse6ZTKQ6ZTKQI brought up Deadlock to some friends and they only knew about the Valorent hero, so we're safe from normies for a little while longer.
I'm gonna try a gun focused hybrid build. What I mean is minimal gun items and a lot of spirit items but ones that help shivs main shtick
>>500219084nta but souls only matter because they make you a menace in teamfights and improve your mobilityvindicta already has high mobility and can't tank so if she isn't using her souls to deal damage then the souls are wasted on her
6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ5 MORE FOR INHOUSE GET THE FUCK IN HERE
>>500219117if it's a bad fight i just run deeper into your side of the map to make you all chase me and win that way too
>>500218827because punching does retard damage and also heals a huge amount with lifestrike
>>500218943that's called spirit armor and debuff remover
>>500219292so you do what everyone is doing, daring!
>>500219030there are already counters to melee tho?they're called mobility items, hell you can argue that extra stamina counters melee just because it allows you to roll away from them. If that isn't enough for you, metal skin negates melee damage.Unless they're planning on putting in items / abilities that reduce melee resist specifically i don't see why or how a melee resist stat is in any way, shape or form an idea that they should waste their time on.
>>500219084if it was last patch Vindicta assassinate soul sharing, she'd be a good slut and gave half her souls to gigachad Lash, who would turn 50k damage into 60k or more
>>500219426>*does 1.3k damage with gun and melee in a split second*damn
>everyone gets a free ability to completely negate melee damage AND stun the attacker >still felt the need to add melee resist itemsmaybe they are balancing around shitters...
>>500219568movement slow also works wonders
>>500219683so get things that have bullet and melee resist. just itemize
6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ3 MORE FOR INHOUSE
>>500219693>>500219568you guys are seriously complaining about itemization getting more depth
>>500219693maybe they need to make melee have reasonable hit detection and not have a near-free way to bait out parries.
>>500219693if you get parried you are the shitter
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hello-im-from-colombia-and-i-dont-want-to-play-on-the-south-american-server-anymore-please-help.42051/
>>500219910>tanks through all the damage and outlasts me and then executes me anywaysdamn
>>500220075so get items that increase your damage? get silence?you know there's an item that fixes every problem you might have in the game, right?
>>500220040huh, so thats why i had so few russians in ranked lately
>>500219985>muh depthmore like redundancy, retard
>>500220040Nah fuck these south american niggers, years of dota has made me hate them and their complete incapability of communicating in english ON THE FUCKING NA SERVERS while they spam their absolutely horrible broken and gutted spanish resembling black speech. Fuck off negroids.t. central american chad.
>>500220040>speaks english>has lower ping in NA>forced to play with brazilians anywaydamn that sucksgood on yoshi for keeping the russians out of EU though
>>500220280Lucky you. I still have those fuckers.
>tripfag has to lane against the only hero he has ever playedget fucked cunt
>>500220493I chose you on purpose so I can punish you
why is the tripfag allowed to play?
6ZTKQOne more slot for inhouse. We are accepting applications from current and former e sport pros. We will consider applicants who are eternus 5 or higher but you may have to spectate instead.
6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ1 MORE FOR INHOUSE
>>500220602I'll leave so that you can wait an
>>500220602to balance out blue team
>>500220602true, why havent we banned him yet
>>500220631*an additional 10 minutes to fill
>>500220602There isn't a good a reason to ban someone who is only a faggot in the thread. He's shit at the game but if we're gonna start banning people because they're shit then well...I have a list we could use
please leave i don't care
>>500220545I am not even the one that took it, I am on your team cunt
Holy shit who the fuck cares just get in the inhouse
>>500220631>>500220703>fat fuck fatfingered his post
Wtf i wanted him to stay.Come back now.
who cares if tripfag plays? He doesn't even have Vindicta
>>500220916he didn't leave, someone else left. tripfag is the guy with the asuka pfp
the balance was fine why did we shuffleamber is going to stomp now
>>500220327I didn't really hate them until I realized that half of them are actual children and the other half could speak English if they wanted to, they just don't feel like it.
I remade my hybrid tankbop build with annotations and an ability order.ID: 131289I think I'm happy with it now; whoever said to dump extra reach was absolutely right.
Im chat muted so I can't tell these dumbasses how terrible they areIn all honesty, how hard is it to wait for Dynamo to have Singularity, really?>Hmm I can wait 20 seconds for us to automatically win the teamfight>Or.. I could go in right now and kill the Infernus who's overextending, who totally doesn't have his entire team hidden behind him
>>500222270>big hat is so toxic he's chat bannedcan't make this up
does anyone have that chibi yamato that looks pissed off?
>>500222345Uhh duuuh? Who else is going to tell these faggots what to do? Everyone is too dumb to think for themselves, how do you think I win 66% of my matches with a support hero?Are you new to the genre?
>>500222270Didn't you just straight up abandon one of the first inhouse matches?Why aren't you banned?
>game isnt even out of alpha yet>Theres already 1 tricks playing like its TIgood lord id love to learn this game but every fucking game being a one sided stomp because of 1 or 2 people is fucking ridiculous
>ban this guy ban that guy
>>500222576>Didn't you just straight up abandon one of the first inhouse matches?yes he did and he didn't even apologize for doing ithe was also dooming on comms the whole match before he left
>>500222576because I am a valuable asset to the game and the future of its developmentI also make inhouses more funIf you disagree then there is room for 600+ more posts for you to bitch about it
>>500222270whys it all the phantom and archon pisslow faggots who are so cocky they get themselves muted lol
>>500217563calling me out
>>500223337598+ to go
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>500223690oh no no
>play a ranked game>everyone communicates>tries their best to win>are all nice to each other>we end up winningIt's so beautiful.
>team with vindicta winsdamn it's like I'm really played ranked
>>500221181called it
actually I think we need to ban tripfag, fucking 1/9/0 is something special
>>500224025k bye
>>500224025post stats for the last inhouse
>play a ranked game>no one communicates>warden zips it down blue>we are flaming each other>we end up losingi hate this game
Make cyruktez and the tripbro lane against each other
>>500222534Didn't win that one lmao
>>500224025agreed, he sucked ass
>>500223998Just played a game against a Vindicta in ranked and her team lost. She even bought unstoppable to stop me from using knockdown on her. Didn't care, used knockdown on her anyways and I killed her all the time.
>>500224025disagree, he ate my ass and I have to vote for him now
>>5002239985v7, tripfag was feeding enemy team and Shiv did 90% of the work
Take one out, fix my hair, take out anutha one
>>500224021>goes 0-9-0 inting>"I knew we were gonna lose"
>>500224203unstoppable on vindicta seems like a huge waste of money
>>500220627Need 2 guys.6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ
God I'm so fucking sick of playing against vindicta and her retarded broken kit.
>>500224346Seemed like it to me too. But she was really annoyed about getting knocked out of the sky all the time.
>>500224242Whoever gave the tripfag 1 kill should probably kill themselvesBut no seriously, was he literally trolling or what? He didn't even get a single assist. That's legit embarrassing.
>>500224134don't have to worry about that cause i'm sticking to my wood matches from now on
>>500224203>unstoppable??????????????????????????what fucking wood ass mmr is this why didnt he buy debuff remover or fucking ethereal shift?
i fucking hate laning against mo man its always guaranteed 4 minutes of kissing tower until you can fight back
>>500224242>0 assits on hazeholy based
banned inhouse players:>big hat>tripfag>laasti>duppy
>>500224517just poke him his range is shit
Ready up ThoTHOT.
>>500224486It was a mix of archon and oracle players. I don't know why he didn't buy either of those instead.
>>500224593what about that one retard that always goes afk before readying up
>>500224724Which one
>>500224593big hat isnt actually banned
>>500224602on lash gun damage at start is not enough, he just regens himself with 1 zoning you. atleast after minute 4 you can really fuck him up with slams
>>500224631>>500224724im sorry
Just one more game to finish my placements, 6/0 so far, they really need to nerf m&k, i'm bad as fuck and still winning
Well?
>>500224954who is this retard? genuinely one of the shittiest tier lists i've seen
>>500224954talon too lowmcginnis too low
God the whole meta of "pray who has vindicta or talon in your team" genuinely makes me want to fucking puke.
TOTAL HAZE LOVE. HAND HOLDING WITH HAZE. DANCING WITH HAZE. CUDDLING WITH HAZE. SNUGGLING WITH HAZE IN BED. KISSING HAZE. SWAPPING SALIVA WITH HAZE. MARRIAGE WITH HAZE. HAZE IN A BEAUTIFUL WEDDING DRESS. MATING WITH HAZE. IMPREGNATING HAZE. HAZE GIVING BIRTH TO OUR SMOKE CHILDREN. HAZE CRADLING OUR SMOKE CHILDREN IN HER ARMS WITH TEARS OF HAPPINESS IN HER EYES.
>>500225052AverageJonas, he used to be a Valorant content creator until he moved to Deadlock
Who will be overpowered next patch?
>>500224954e-celeb posters deserve a ban, these fagots do not deserve the spotlight
>play nothing but paradox>lose every game >play a carry>win every gamei can't even support these fucking troglodytes to a win being 7/0/18 as paradox
>>500225412>ascendant Vlmao even
these are some fuckin teammates
>>500225594Hey I never said he was good, even in Valo he was a one-trick pony
>>500225594post your rank
>>500225648mcginnis I kneel
These games are horrible.
>>500225775one better :^) but ascendant games are still a far cry from (high) eternus games
>>500226137wow so youre top 1500 instead of top 2000 youre way better than him you should make builds bro
>>500226190i don't and neither should him
>>500224954this looks like an ult tier list not a character one
>>500226395That makes it even more retarded.
>>500226395>pocket ult>S tierlul
https://steamcommunity.com/id/truanalain/ add me bros
>>500224025he's always been like this.
>the FULL team has trash build and throw away the soul lead because soul lead is meaningless when they all have trash items and i'm the sole person doing any damage>ivy build spirit ivy without escalating exposure, has echo shard instead of refresher, and has improved spirit when the scaling is trash>wraith build glass cannon meme while being 6/5>Haze has headhunter, crippling headshot, and metal skin for some fucking reason. Can't even a proper ult bot>yamato has boundless spirit, 4 of her slot unfilled 40 min into the gameSo even when we were 10k ahead, we were effectively 40k behind in strength due to trash trash builds from teammates
I haven't won a single deadlock game today
>>500227217just play prepping bull
>>500227217I lost 2 games with my friends because they don't make callouts, won another with them through sheer luck, and then won a game of ranked because my team actually communicated.
>>500226948Im sorry but you lool kinda gay
>>500227109Whats wrong with crippling headshot
>>500227217I booted up the game and closed it cause i dont want to bother laning. Fuck laning
>>500227660Laning is my favorite part of the game.
>>500205783>a different kind of cooperative-objective instead of just killing another big monsterMaybe we could uh... heal the urn? It can't be any worse than the current iteration of urn at least.
>Bugshaker mocks a whiffed Black Hole>Bend his entire team over a table with the next onesHow about them apples motherfucker
>>500224954>Yamato A->Mcginnis B>Lash B>Mirage BLMAO
Those were some good plays on the winning teamIts past my bed time though good night
>>500227784Lash can just set them up
Sorry for that laning phase Vindicta
>>500227784Kek
What the fuck do you even do when laning against mirage
>>500227706how? if both players play good it's like a 300 soul difference max, and youre stuck in a 1v1 where neither guardian goes down ever due to the new damage fall off rules
>>500228005Buy slowing hex
>>500228005You will consume the scarabs.
>>500228005buy 4 regen items and hit minions, he can't really kill you
Inhouse needs three(3) big guys!6ZTKQ6ZTKQ6ZTKQ
>>500228005CONSOOOOOM THEM
>>500227561You don't hit headshot when you ult. Not terrible but haze should prioritize build for ult before anything else. This haze had no unstoppable and no ricochet. If you want to be a left click character, just play another character
>>500228005apologize to god for picking mo and krill
>>500227946He only set up one of my Singularities (bombanyti was definitely solid that game)I had about 4 or 5 that I set up on my own that sweeped for Urn and some major fights
>>500228005eat my left clicks
>>500228142is there any way to check post game stats of custom game?
>>500228054That's when you can actually gank and it isn't "random"
stats for the inhouse?
meppz is a bad player
>>500228054It's fun to try to outplay someone in a 1v1. It's like playing a fighting game but in a 3rd person shooter.
>>500228076>buy slowing hex>he left clicks me 1 time 2 miles away>0/4ebin
>>500228241no, you cant gank or you lose your guardian . that's why it's aids.>>500228257i watched a pro game and there were like 3 kills max in the first 10 minutes it's kinda passive oriented right now. I would like laning more if kills mattered and aggression was rewarded
>>500228005Mirage can only capitalize on your mistakes. Don't poke that corner when your multiplier is on 2x/4x, don't go after him when you know his tornado is off cd, don't panic if he tries to initiate with tornado because you can still shoot and parry him.
My favorite characters are Shiv, McGinnis, and Mirage. What does that say about me?
>>500228249Doesnt help that he played haze and team was legit throwing i understood his onions out because it was just braindead staring at enemy 3 players until six show up and then die one by one
>>500228249Meppz could be 10 times better at the game and he'd still be a drag on the team due to how much worse he makes everyone play being a morale terrorist the entire game
If I'm on Meppz's team I will just mute voice. >Tunneled on McGinnis and chased her the whole map despite being half hp>Blames the team for itStop brooling and farm as Haze maybe
HOLY SHIT POST STATS NIGGERS
>>500228005if it's solo, hard push the lanehe has garbage clear so he'll need to focus on the creeps eventually
>>500228505One team bad other team good
>>500228505i dont have the id :(
Why did Haze switch lanes? I wanted to duel her!
>>500228398Kills are pretty strongly rewarded past the 2 minute mark, it's just not immediately visible just how much impact it has.
>>500228505How do you see the stats then?
>>500228641Match id.
>>500228450I only shit talk at the end when the mistakes of retarded teammates pile up. I feel like if i'm not literally telling people how to play, they will just run around the map aimlessly or will just hyper focus on whatever fight is happening. It's so fucking obnoxious. >>500228473When did this happen?
How do you fight Dynamo in inhouses
>>500228238>>500228505I would if I knew how to check the stats.
>>500228709Spend 6200 on a 3s stun preventer and just be lucky in guessing when he'll pop his ult
>>500228505
>>500228634he thought he could do "better" with bebop>>500228709 you dont
>>500228695Purple walker to green lane
>>500228473it's actually disgusting how the McNigger got out with 50 hp like 3 times while also taking the objectivewhat a stupid fucking hero
i was running as 500hp lash near mid and saw fucking invis silhouette jumping near me, holy shit professor really saved my ass and clutched it
>>500224954Was this nigga drunk when he made this list and of course he has bebop in his own trash tier so the hero can get more buffs
>>500228810>Spend 6200 on a 3s stun preventerCommon misconception that Unstoppable only lasts 3 seconds, but it actually lasts 6 seconds. Metal skin lasts 3 seconds.
>>500228693Do custom games have match IDs? They don't show up in any sort of history. You can't view the match id when creating a custom lobby
>>500224470It was a complete stomp in a 23 minute game where I was playing Haze who I'm not very good at and my lane partner was the other worst player in the match, did anyone expect anything else?
>>500228473Yeah that guy is genuinely annoying>>500228695Inhouse isn't fucking ranked bro. Stop crying every match. It annoys people
thanks for the round boysbf is back though so its scream fortress time>>500228709you can breathe easy now
>>500228926Bebop downplayers are a menace.
>>500228973Stop playing poorly and have some map awareness.
>>500228695>hyper focus on whatever fight is happeningkek you did that a few times that game
>>5002281426ZTKQNeed two more dudes.
>our support>Dynamo who pulls out 1% hp allies using rescue beam and then quantums away from harm>their "support">Ivy that ults Meppz, gets him stuck under bridge and we execute himIt was never a fair match
>>500229173>>Ivy that ults Meppz, gets him stuck under bridge and we execute himis there a webm of this I'd like to see it
>>500229173>Ivy that ults Meppzthat was a mistake :(( also he was dead any ways
>>500229173>pulls out allies and quantums them awayI imagine that shit must be really annoying
>>500228926He's the faggot who popularized every cancer Bebop build, if being a one trick bomb faggot isn't viable then he's going to cry incessantly
>Play mcginnis>Get shit on in lane>Just POOOOOOOOOSH and rat all game>Shit out 6 turrets in midboss with refresher and nuke it in 8 seconds, anyone that runs in gets melted>Nuke every objectiveWhat a stupid ass fucking hero.
>Meppz still being a little bitchKek mf just cries every game this dude legit mentally fucking ill. Being on his team and hearing his voice literally makes you play worst
guess who took all the jungle farm and did nothing with it again>sevenguess who picked a broken ass hero and somehow went 0/10/7 again>infernusguess who ran down lane and died 10 times while trying to shoot a walker with no minions>mcginnishow are phantoms this fucking shit. i know the rank itself is shit, but my god.
>>500229583>Most people have 1 ability they have to aim for ranged harass>Buy Extra Charge and invest in skill CD and throw out a turret on cooldown>Even if they kill it, they lose like 20% of their hp per turrent launch, if they're farming, its moreI feel like I'm going to Hell for using this character, my god.
>>500228695>I only shit talk at the endthat's really not true
>>500229930last game his team was legit worse. Vindicta absolute zero, Ivy doing more harm than good, no idea what Bebop was doing. He had to carry but it was just too hard
>placed middle-left lane as Lashreeeeemakes me wanna rage-quit
>>500229093It's an inhouse dude
Lady Geist is OP and needs a few more counters. Shota hero with free anti-heal in his kit when?
>>500229173A good Dynamo feels unfair to fight
>>500230852The shota needs a silence in his kit too.
Don't play with your friends if you value your rank, I played a few matches with mine and now I'm solo queuing against Archons.
>>500230389>no idea what Bebop was doingGetting raped by Mirage
>>500231073I've played with my friends who are like initiate tier since they've gotten access to the game and I'm gonna keep doing it.
>>500231073I don't get it you know mmr is seeded and you still do it just make a smurf
>>500231295Yeah I have one now, I wish I realized sooner. Also he feels insulted when I hop on my smurf to play with him lol
>>500231513Just tell him to get better if he's offended.
I played a game once with one of my friends who is really shit at the game and it was maybe the most eye opening experience as to what the skill levels are truly like at low mmr levels. No one on my team knew what they were doing, and no one on the enemy team knew what they were doing either. I was playing a 1v6 game where I was soloing objectives, and soloing the entire enemy team by myself. I literally took out every single guardian, walker, and shrine by myself.
>>500230389>Ivy doing more harmi fucked up one ult retard
Honestly, my bomb damage has gone up since the patch.
Im loooooosingAmbatu looooooooose
>>500232249dont worry average jonas is doing his best job to get bebop another buff
>>500232250Forgor image!Gooooooofing around
>>500232431https://youtu.be/qsXmTBTcHz8?feature=shared
>>500230389I switched lanes because I had the idea that we could do sleep dagger into bebop hook but it didn't haoppen
>>500203562>>500203995>not even Eternus I>good
guys why are you sending friend invites on steam, this is an anonymous inhouse game
>>500232249Share your build or i will stop spamming your tf2 webms on /v/
>>500232473>0 objective damageyou goddamn negros
>Shallow Fraud wants to get carried yet again
>dc from server once>reconnect instantly>lag>enemy team literally pops out in my base kills me and ends the gameEnd my miserable life this game is so shit I'm 29 not 79 my reflexes aren't so slow for me to get gaslit into this not being a pop out.
>paradox is just a worse bebop, hook is just a better swa-CK
I'm gonna be real I've never heard meppz being toxic, he and that other guy always seem like they're having a good time
>>500233421bebopchuds we couldn't win the 1v3 wtf
>>500233530To be fair Paradox could definitely have gotten out of that 1v3 if she were in the Bebop's position
>>500224954really wish this faggot would stop putting Ivy in S tier all because she can fly the urn all by herself ignoring all the other issues playing her especially fucking laning phase holy fuck
>>500233530there was no 1v3there was a failed pick off and a successful pick off
>>500203317just lost a match because dynamo's black hole works even through the platforms that are all over the spawnepic kino based wholesomechungus 100 reddit moment soooooooooooooo zazed
Will the Valve have a marketing campaign when this game releases? I.E paying streamers, commercials etc. Never been around for a Valve launch so curious if they will.
>>500233848I don't know shit about dota 2 because I never played it, but I remember all of the Half Life games, TF2 and Portal 2 having incredibly successful marketing campaigns. Valve is almost guaranteed to do something big for Deadlock.
>>500232473Nigga how do you get 0 obj damage with the build that absolutely nukes buildings?
honestly just play dota at this point
>>500234383Dota is cringe.
>>500234649niglock is no less
>>500234383nudota is boring and full of spics
>>500233848My first ever experience with valve products in general was seeing a billboard for the original left 4 dead (i was way too young to play lmao).
>>500218250This doesn't seem true to me. There are lots of things that are situationally worth doing, that you don't ABSOLUTELY have to do. Importantly, I think that if the enemy team lets up on their map pressure to go chase around a ghost, that means the ghost has achieved its goal of letting the losing team have a chance to catch up and keeping the gap between teams narrow.
>join ranked game>get put with two elo terrorists biofems playing haze and vindicta>they go sub-3/10/x or more deathsthis is the sixth ranked game in a row i've had literally everyone on my team go negative
>>500234383Deadlock is betterDeadlock has much better movement, it feels good and responsive, and this is an important thing for a video gameDota is too slow and clunky because they deliberately kept the engine limitations of WC3 in place for the sake of "authenticity" or whatever, and that's why LoL usurped Dota
Viscous feels good to play, but he's too hard.
>>500235240The winning team will never chase the ghost if doing so would allow the losing team to catch up.The losing team has a harder time chasing the ghost because the winning team likely has better map control. At the very least, the losing team has no ability to contest the winning team's ghost chasing. That means the winning team only needs to send one guy to do it.
I'm not 100% opposed to melee resist as a stat YET, but what the fuck are those items that it's on? Bullet resist shredder and titanic ammo?
>>500235551The devs REALLY want you to buy Titanic Magazine so they keep buffing it
>>500235364>Dota is too slow and clunky because they deliberately kept the engine limitations of WC3 in place for the sake of "authenticity" or whateverlolbabs talking out of their asses like this never ceases to baffle me
>>500235551no one buys those items so yoshi is trying to increase their value>>500235364turn rate is good, pleb
>>500235551I assume they may have just decided to put the stat on items that were either low pick rate in order to make them better, or items that were typically taken on characters who are really vulnerable to melee in order to help them survive more.
>>500235364LoL usurped Dota because they invested heavily in the waifu/coomer coin
>>500235678Hey remember when League of Legends became the most popular game for like a decade because they streamlined the stupid bullshit out of Dota? Because dotards have been seething about it for like a decade lol
Playing as Slork made me understand how to play Warden (who i never liked before)Made a Pocket ragequit during laning
>>500235881Not true, LoL was already more popular than Dota even before then
>>500235935Playing as Slork just made me feel bad for my opponents.
So all the hero labs characters are deliberately overtuned so people pick them right?Except they seem so fucking overtuned that you have shit like 1 hit kill Wrecker or Cat-rape laserbeam if you leave base.
>>500235935>made me understand how to play Wardenexplain
when exactly does a K/D become laughable?
>>500236075yes? They basically did since the beginnign
If I play gun dynamo will my team be upset with me
>>500236427Slork has Warden's ult for his 1
>>500236635If you play as Dynamo outside of stacks you are actively griefing and i WILL report abuse you
>>50023655615+
>>500236635Yes, especially if you do bad
>>500215664well placed pulse grenade can kill all 4 creeps as soon as they drop if you have enough spirit power
FUCK i didnt mean to leave, I wanted to quit death replay and it booted me out of the lobby, fuckt. infernus
>>500215664Paradox is a strong duolaner but a rather weak sololaner.
>>500237318kek
>>500232473>BEEP BOOP I MUST BROOL!!!!
>>500237318u were dead anyways, all good
>>500237318
>>500237318I forgive you.
I was gonna say "how about a hero labs party" but then I remembered slork exists, bounce pad is still bugged and callico is still a meme.
I didn't even mess up my hair!https://youtu.be/4N8Ssfz2Lvg?si=MI_KcftAjyHV_plA&t=320
Help me out here brosIf I have 1000 hpand I get 10% bullet resistwould that not be like having 1100 effective hp (in terms of bullets?), so if there was an item that gave 200+hp it would be better than a 10% bullet resist item, or am I thinking this wrong.
>>500237318Didnt matter until seven decided to go on suicide mission killing entire team in the process
>>500235664>The devs REALLY want you to buy Titanic Magazine so they keep buffing itthe core problem with titanic magazine is that basic mag is 15% weapon damage, and titanic is 18%. why spend 3000 souls for a gain of 3% when I can just buy one of many other t3 gun items that give me both more total stats and have generally better effects, you just don't need THAT much ammo, there are too many other items that give you lots of ammo for cheaper or just let you reload constantly without a care
>>500237318Its ok, mang.GGs!
Ice dome and Dynamo ult are so ridiculous with how powerful they are
Interesting how this game and Tekken 8 both have an Arabic character who is understated and mostly boring but also a top-tier pick.
>>500237530You arent wrong and early game the extra health for 500 is good value
>>500237550>>500237614>>500237450oh well. think I threw the game anyway by not buying unstoppable like a retard, ggs boys
The ivy would've gotten away with it
>>500237673yeah what a weird coincidence haha definitely not pandering to very wealthy gamer arab oil princes
>>500237720CLUTCHCLUTCH
>>500237530yes and it's overall better to get more hp because you can lifesteal and also deal with spirit damage the same way
>>500237528bruh wtf is going on here why are the teams this unbalanced you niggas know better
>>500237696nah u overextended and got caught. i couldnt beam u because of the veil as well.
>>500237765The Arab oil prince pandering is the women with fat tits
>>500237528>39k objective damageI kneel....
i fucking want out
>>500237848someone shuffled and thewn started it right away
>>500237720I almost paradox swapped you out but i missedI played like ass today SaarsToo much diablo 2
>>500237815>>500237530also 100hp isnt just 100 hp it can be the difference between survivng a gank and popping vampiric burst or infuser and popping off and restoring to full, so HP and other stalling methods can be worth more than they appear
>>500237945I'm starting to suspect it's meppz shuffling until he's on the imba side
>>500237528I feel like my itemization isn't the problem anymore, but being way too aggressive on kills with Miku.90% of my deaths were just being caught out by over-extending and failing to wall escape. Definitely did not appreciate the fact that Ivy had a melee build two times and was punished for it.Then again, I felt like when I was being more cautious that I was just lane janneying. Maybe I need to apply some team work.
>>500237918while everyone was brooollling he was in the back killing shrines
>>500233773I'm one of the best Ivy out there and I can't be fucked running urn with ult half the time. Like... you've either established control over turn in or you haven't. Sure you do it a bit faster but you're also just throwing a very strong team fighting ultimate into the bin to do so. I just tether up and run it normally generally. It's a cool trick and all but hardly feels worth it outside of maybe the first time and you have duration extender.
>Him trying to melee me through the dome while I just slice n dice through itGenuinely laughed so hard
>>500238341shiv moment
Is improved burst worth it?
I WANT TO PLAY DEADLOCKI DO NOTWANT TOPLAYA SOLO LANE
>>500238423Only if you have low CD spells that happen to do 200 or more damage. I would've said no last patch when it was 7% but they brought it back up and in turn killed the item on Mo...
>>500238448thank you we need to be able to pick lanes that we want
>guy on comms says we should fight>i go in>nobody else goes in>i die>we losei hope you suffocate on your own cock
>>500228238either remember the matchid (if you're in the game) or ask someone who played for it.
>>500238448Just swap with the Mirage or GT on your team. If you don't have either of them on your team then GG go next
>>500238480Just poor coordination. What he did was pretty sound. Dome urn, beam souls. Just unfortunate he winded up there at that exact moment.
>>500238615TROLLED
>>500238515What about on Viscous? His splatter ability can easily do 200+ damage by midgame but it's a 15 second cooldown, his ultimate is the same but it's an ultimate and fairly easily avoidable.
>>500238515next week expect mo buff for scorn t3 to do 200 dmg
>>500238423It's only good in like what, yamato, GT and viscous?But it's REALLY fucking good now.
>>500238480show the globe grief i did in the middle(make sure to keep the part where i steel the rejuv)
>>500204118I swear to almighty god they better not change his voice, that shit they had in the Visual Novel sounds so fucking ass comparatively
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZE8E8UIbwMpocketbros it's up
sex with ivy
>>500238789Yeah. I think splatter maxxing is the play on Viscous at the moment. They anally raped support Viscous by putting cube dispel on T3. T2 is just so utterly shit that it feels like a ROUGH sell. They've also gutted ethereal shift ball. It was a bullshit tech but yeah, brutal to lose it. I'm toying around with the idea of this. 111444222333
>>500208181you can get all the kills you want, unless your team can actually capitalize on that and push to patron before the enemy can because they're somewhere you aren't then you're still gonna lose
>>500239239im buying curse not phantom strike
>>500238615There is no leader in public matches, so if you followed orders you got what you deserved fucking sheepComms are for saying what (You) want to doIf it's a good idea others will followYou should also give everything as advice; the players can decide to reject without social issues thenFor example you can say "X missing" no problem, or "Y be careful". Don't say "Y retreat" because he misses a kill or something he'll be mad and if he doesn't then he's training himself to ignore you
Kelvin main = psychopathyMo & Krill main = sociopathyMcGinnis main = mental retardationParadox main = bipolar disorder (induced)Ivy main = autism
>>500239450LashGOD = king
>>5002375301111 effective hp, actually. It's 1000*(1/(1-0.1))
>>500239309This looks solid but it feels so bad not having melee lifesteal and spirit strike on Visc since that's his gimmick on the puddle punch
Honestly? I don't hate the bomb changes. I haven't played bomb bop in a while but I think it performs better now at least at this level. Having to constantly get bomb damage to keep it up was hard but with the spirit scaling boost and the +5% per kill you can reach a good damage threshold fairly easily but it's 100% more feast or famine because if your team isn't killing you're not getting anything.
>>500239503Very intuitive
>>500229173>>500229261Worst. Support. EVER!!!!!!!!!
>>500237530You need to remember that resist also increases your healing value. If you have 1200 hp that's more health that needs healing, 1000hp with 10% resist means your healing is worth 10% more as wellNot to mention you're hurt more by anything that does damage based on your max HP on the former
>>500239943To be fair it is retarded as fuck you're not actually brought along with Ivy and it just tries to sling you up from wherever you are.
>>500239943Based Ivy publicly executing Haze by hanging her
>>500238423For any character that can proc it, yes it's good. By the time you grab it, nearly everyone will have over 1k HP which means it's at least 100 extra damage but against tankier characters and especially late game it'll double or triple and don't forget that the damage is boosted by -x% spirit resist and any spirit damage boost modifiers too.
Every game I have very negative KDA (like 4-20), but my team carries me to the victory most of the time. Somehow, my farm is up to speed as well. Thank you gaben.
>>500239595Yeah it's just my lack of giving a fuck about punch, no extra charge, no points into it. Just full on rushing splatter and gooball T3s. I guess if you really wanted to you could drop extra stamina and reach for those two early...
>>500239943i blame the haze for being A RETARD and thinking he can fight
>>500239943This straight up stupefied me for a full minute. I know how much an early game seven can heal with their ult so I knew two people shooting one that low would kill him. But this ivy just HAD to do the ult into goombastomp. If she just shot him even a LITTLE he would've died before myself.
anyone else noticed that there are cheaters everywhere againnot just suspiciously good players people straight up flying around and shit
>>500239943holy based
>>500238341lol so you are laughing hard because you guys stacked all the good players on one team thats some nasty ass work like this is nothing to even be proud or posted about
What are some fun builds. Im bored
>>500240502I try to make it work.. You can get -24% spirit resist debuff on enemies if you go spirit strike + mystic vulnerability but that's kinda where the powerspike ends, melee lifesteal hp steal is kinda mid especially if you're paying 3k souls for it
>>500241113echo shard tron infernus
LITERALLY CAN'T FIGHT THIS TEAM
>>5002411133maxx mirage is funny
>Build something>Melt people like butter>Do same build>Do literally 0 damageForced 50 is real
>>500241113Hybrid bebop (forma la tank)
LashGODs... What's missing from my build?
>>500240584Kek, why are ivy's like this?
Jeremy, the dark silver shroudHe has a flamethrower, cone, so can hit around corners/coverQuas: Jeremy Smack - Smacks a target in the mouth, silencing them for 3 seconds. If this interrupts a channel ability, they are stunned. Wex: The Understandment - Cause an enemy's gun to jam, forcing a reload that's 100% longer and dealing aoe damage based on the % magazine that was empty and their bullet damageExort: Soul Bind - Chains two enemies together, a percentage of damage is shared, and they can't escape from each other. Target abilities are replicated. Rekyle: Target enemy takes 30% of all damage they dealt in the last 4 seconds right just now, as the same type
>>500239943-ACK
>>500241113healer geist
>>500241256I saw chazm say Sharpshooter is really good for finishing people off
>>500241256Boundless Spirit
>>500239943here's what i dont get.why didnt you jump away there was no way you were going to get out alive if you stay
>solo lane against pocket as Ivy>figure i'm going to lose>actually stomp him in lane>end up 4k souls ahead of him>friendly guardian destroyed>friendly guardian destroyed>friendly guardian destroyed>friendly walker destroyed>friendly walker destroyed>friendly walker destroyed>my team all shit their fucking pants extremely hard before 15 minutes even passed
>>500241897pocket get shat on by anyone who can constantly harass him with spirit damage
>>500241897>solo lane against pocket as Ivy>figure i'm going to lose?
>>500238423Here's a somewhat quick test I did. I'm using Lash against a max level Infernus who has less than 5k invested in green items, which gives him 1900 HP. I'm using flog and testing, one is without improved burst and just general spirit items and one is with improved burst. The spirit power is the exact same in both situations. I also test what the damage is with Soul Shredder Bullets (SSB) and then with mystic vulnerability (MV) and then both.>BaseNothing - 234SSB - 257MV - 274SSB+MV - 302>Improved BurstNothing - 395SSB - 435MV - 456SSB+MV - 500With burst and supplemental items, you're over doubling your damage vs a near 2k health enemy. If you compare the damage with the extra items, you're still getting a 65% increase in damge. Yes, burst is worth it on characters that actually want to burst.
>matchmaking closed with just 1 game offNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>500241771Chazm can aim though
>>500242004i cant constantly harass him with early game kudzu because he can just walk out of it, and his briefcase is a hardcounter to any attempt to stone form him
How do i defeat the one-trick mindset?
>can infuse Yamato ult with duration extender and get magic carpet>suddenly you can now just leave any bad fight you want and the enemy can't do dick about it because you're immune to disables
>>500242004>>500242023>he thinks ivy isn't totally dogshit soloretard alert
>>500242181Find heroes that are similar in playstyle and thus become a 3-4 tricky ponies
>>500240802dude i'm just laughing because it's a silly moment and retarded that his hitbox went through the dome. it's not complicated
>>500242261Yeah but that's 7.5k fucking souls and ultimate cooldown being used solely on getting away
>>500238967paradox really loves it because of carbine
>>500242104Heh...first time, kid?
>>500239767you're not gaining more health, you're taking less damage. *1.1 is not /.9
>>500242306whats similar to mcginnis?
>>500242181force yourself to play a different hero than your one trickdo it in unranked though don't waste your teammates' time in ranked
>get raped in lane by bebop>completely dumpstered 0-5 at 8 min mark>give up and go full afk split push>win match easily 20 mins later, free double shrine at the 15 min markwtf
>>500242289i just reread that. im a retard, i thought he was the pocket.....
>>500241184nvm i bought knockdown
>>500241878Are you talking about jumping out of the ult or what, I was really confused at first and half hoped it would magically zip me through the ceiling and then you literally see me manually drop out at the end and die when it's too late. If you're talking about pre-ult then pay attention. I got lash'd. Before the webm starts I was already trying to run away and you can see me throw my sleep dagger at lash successfully then veer my aim to the right because I was going to dash the fuck away because obviously my health was getting nuked from lash.
>remember that yoshi said lane selection is based on skill>last game one of our lanes was completely shit on by shiv>check when the game ends>shiv is eternus 6, lane tard is obscurus
>black hole 3 guys>team abrams proceeds to miss charge>miss 3 heavy melees>enemies come out and wipe usI am 99% sure he was trolling me.
i'm going into battle and I need your strongest warden build
>>500242653So? Is his mmr supposed to be 0 just because he's obscurus or something?
my w/l is going down so fast. i was up at least 15 games before I started playing paradox. god.
>>500242379acceptable cost for it being stupidly funny and spending the entire game forcing a team to waste their time trying to catch you, not worth it in serious games though
>>500242817no it just means he hasn't done solo queue to confirm his badge he is still around that skill level his mmr is just hidden
>>500242379>>500243004think about how much money you'd spend on greens for survival otherwise. Sounds worth to me.
>>500243092>don't buy greens>get brought low almost immediately >ult and leavewhat does this accomplish?
>>500242261another fun character for magic carpet is paradox. carbine's speed boost as you hold it is a universal boost to all movement which means it boosts ziplines, airdashes and the fly speed you get from magic carpet
I have been playing since May and when I look back, almost nothing meaniungful has been added or updated the game besides obsessive map tweaking and heroes that were already in the game's files.
>>500242653do you know what obscurus means
>>500242379>spend 7.5k souls to become unkillableI'll take that trade
>>500242817>>500243237i checked his game history and it's oracle-ascendant games, also he feed all game and did no obj damage
>>500241184This looks like the easiest victory ever. Memeteam. I would DC if i was on that team
>>500206808>>500207597>he has a fixed head except for the glasses that move around to indicate where he is looking atkino
>>500242615retardbro how did you think you were going to lose that?
>>500242949stop playing grenade build
Bwos gimme a spirit hero to play, cuz I sure as hell can't carry
>>500243593In his defence dickta and heya hoya are pretty strong this patch, rest are manageable tho
>>500237517are the devs retarded or just severely missing the manpower to make this a decent game?
>>500243184that's not your entire income though, just what you spend on the two items needed to make it work
>>500239602It was a nerf
>>500239943>space to cancel>takes forever to hit space when he realizes he's stuck under the bridge
>>500243704only a few heroes you can play then because we are slowly moving away from a spirit meta
>>500243240I'm pretty sure the only character that could maybe keep up with you after getting away at that point would be Lash
>>500243851Yeah I figuredI'm thinking of going Dynamo and trying to force fights or save people with my ult, because the sheer amount of bloodlust in these ranks on OCE is incredible, nobody knows when to leave a fight, how to pressure, all they know is to snowball into a fight and lose, or trickle in one by oneExcept the enemy team, of course, they might as well be a 6-man stack with perfect coordination while my Seven apologizes for it being their second Seven game ever
>>500242629At that point you're just blaming others. You should've just hit space the instant you got stuck. >If you're talking about pre-ult then pay attentionSomeone's defensive
>>500241184From left to right:>just shoot while walking backwards>walk sideways>knockdown>knockdown>knockdown>knockdown
made the mistake of winning too many games in a row so i've been moved to Your Teammates Are Mongrel Retards queue. saw a haze end a 45 minute game with 4300 player damage. man alive
Try to be kind to each other, anons.
>>500244260the game assumed you could carryi guess you just aren't good enough...
>>500243760They buffed mcginnis and mirage of course they're retarde
>>500244385*kisses you*
>>500244385I amI'm an ausfagWe show affection by bullying the people we like and being formal with the people we don't
>win teamfight>team returns to farming campsat this point I just follow the person I think would get the most angry at me for stealing half of their souls from each camp
>>500244119You're trying too hard to bait
What are the worst team comps?
>>500244927teams that require a lot of farm to do anything
>>500242036You have to actually do your full burst, not just one move.
>>500244927if you have multiple carry heroes that don't come online until late or a lack of anyone that can frontline or decently set up picks
>>500243642I'M NOT
I've won the VAST majority of my ranked matches this week, I hope I get from archon 4 to oracle, or even phantom
>>500238423if you're one of the like three or four characters that can get it off consistently with a spammable ability then yes
>>500241256In no world do you need Kinetic Dash AND Superior Stamina. Replace Kinetic Dash with Slowing Bullets (going into silencer depending on enemy comp) and remove Mystic Slow/Suppressor for Surge of Power on his 1.>HealbaneAre you only using this when the enemy is rushing early healing? Toxic Bullets is astronomically better since Lash has deceptively long CD and it applies the bleed on top of healing reduction.
>>500243704Seven. Mirage. ehhhhhviscous. Llllllllashhh, shivvv. Gray talonnn?????
>>500245342if you want to figure it out play a unranked game and look at who you are getting
Is this a good warden build?
>just fought the grenade kelvin build for the first time
>>500245443>In no world do you need Kinetic Dash AND Superior StaminaYeah, you're probably right. I find Superior Stamina is the "core" item I build least often from that list.>Replace Kinetic Dash with Slowing Bullets and remove Mystic Slow/Suppressor for Surge of Power on his 1.Definitely gives better gank potential. I'll try this out.>Toxic Bullets is astronomically betterYou know what, you're right. I'm just so used to buying Healbane brainlessly whenever there's an Infernus or Abrams causing trouble, but Toxic Bullets is a much better pick for Lash.
>>500246034oh? you wanted to kill someone with a kelvin on their team? you got them to half? no you didn't they just ate a snowcone fresh from that undead piss wizard on the enemy team and are full health now.
>>500246034to be fair this is just kelvin in general. character is completely busted
>>500246261probably the most fundamentally broken character after shiv
Fuck it, what's the Haze ultbot build?I really like building a trillion bullets, sneaking up on someone out of position and deleting them with left click + knife but it's not winning teamfights
hehe hoo hoo low elo punch shiv bait the parry and keep punching
>just found out you can add notes directly to itemsTime to buildmaxx
Why do.you think the devs recommend supstam on Paradox? Stamina is good on her so you can weave back and forth through your wall, bit do you think that's actually the reason? What was their plan?
>>500246034they hardcore nerfed this build how can you struggle against it
I genuinely can't recall the order of the ranks below oracle or even list them all.
>>500246759so when you swap you can spam dash, your life depends on it
>>500246883everything under phantom doesnt matter
>>500246932Spotted the phantom shitter
>the day they gave ranked badges>archon 2>been getting matched with oracles and ascendants>fast forward to now>getting constant emissaries and low archonsbros, give it to me straight i'm going down to piss low aren't i
To the anon who suggested Siphon, bless you. I got soooo tanky. I love gun passive heroes so much, bros...
I have given up the ranked lifeI will never get a rank so that I will never feel compelled to improve it. I will be free from the shackles of ranked medals, forever.
>>500247093this is me. i stopped playing ranked as a result
Damn patronneeds bullet correction
>>500247175you are afraid
>>500247142Siphon works really well with ricochet, but it's completely trash without it.
>>500246876guy on my team dropped 60k damage just hardspamming nades and it felt like any fight where he could drop a nade on 1 teammate and 1 enemy at the same time was just impossible to lose. How strong was it pre-nerf if this is post "hardcore nerf"?
>>500247371I am evolved
>>500247142>Seeker rank matchHoly based
why yes i do max 3 on warden first because i can't aim for shit oh, and yes I do laugh maniacally at every rainbow/apex/valorant wall jumping head clicker i put in the cuck cagemfers have egos the size of moons and brains walnut sizedthey'll learn though. sadly.
Does glass cannon show how many stacks you have anywhere?
>>500247142based urgot autist
>>500203317Pocket players have broken my buck so badly that I thought this was Yamato dressed as a briefmonkey. I can’t live like this much longer.
>>500247714Don't forget to buy slowing hex fellow officer
I have won my solo lane pretty hard my last 3 matches in a row and I hated it every time. Solo lane fucking sucks
>>500247175ranked is just quick play but you get medals for some reason. it's completely pointless until they add draft or something that makes it more than hoping your team comp isn't shit
this is so fucking cringe to play into
>>500247973CurseCurseCurseRunCurseCurse
What about a flight item that allows you to shoot, so you can just fly up and man fight heya hoya and feet?
>>500247714Warden's fucking attack speed scaling on spirit, and all his abilities scaling on spirit is fucking insaneA HUGE base bullet damage + fat attack speed, headshot booster, quicksilver reload is just bullshit
>>500247382I'll keep that in mind.>>500247683Ayye, you see it? I lost a lot, but went mostly positive. Could farm more though, so I'm expecting something like Alch 2 when ranks update.>>500247787>fellow /lolg/erHowdy
>>500245902if you're expecting to hit 60k souls sure.I'd recommend culling down to 20k -> 30k -> 40k in that order of strengthsee if there's anything you can early pick up if you're farming because you're uncontested>900 seconds wait time to post replygod damn gookmoot is a lazy fuck
I never really played Yamato but I miss the old voice. It had more personality
Are inhouses done?I want to clown around more with the professor
>>500245902I'd rather have BRS than QSR. Warden dumps his abilities as soon as the fight starts.
>lost a game because mystic reverb geist did 2000 damage in an AOE to usI pinged yoshi about this directly this is some bullshit
vindictas that just maxes out crow first and buys multiple active actives like curse, decay, knockdown etc is actually the most aids shitpretty sure this guy just ignored her 4 and flight and just played her like a complete aids cc bot that bleeds your entire health bar
who wins this one
>>500249051amber
>>500247856Never come to the teamfight without it.You ever tried Alchemical Fire? I have slowing bullets and am looking to further melt the occasional Abrams or Mo+Krill
>>500249051blue easily if any of those players are competent
>"we need to to stop vindicta">"talon is merciless">"haze will move you all down"same shit every game
>>500249415mow* :))))))))))))
am I crazy for thinking shadow weave on infernus could be fun?
>>500249415Why don't they say anything more fun?>"You need to get the free refill">"Lash is taking you all to the diner">"They have delivered the pizza..."
>>500249051if the Dynamo is competent blueif he's not competent amber
>>500249415>PROFESSOR DYNAMOOO..>You are making *EVERY* Black Hole count..
>tanked full bebop beam for 7600 damagelmao what the fuck
>>500248527god i can't wait until they fix crows so they actually bounce properly instead of shooting directly up into the air half the time
>>500249415>OOOOHHHHH HOW THEY FEAAAAR MAURIIIICE AND KRIIIIIILL
>complained about other stack heroes getting permastacks but bebop getting temp stacks>the devs gave bebop permastacks a day laterthey're watching us...
>>500249803No, Dynamo doesn't perform well in that lineup I don't thinkThat team doesn't have a dedicated damage-dealer/pusher hero like Seven/Haze/Wraith/InfernusIts a full ability-based teamHonestly hope Yoshi implements some team-composition tweaks soon because a lot of matches are losing to draft
from now on i will quit on the spot if i see that the enemy team has a haze
who wins based on this draft
>>500250260Your mom
>tracklock didn't record my matches since 23What did i do
i like playing punch shiv more than any other hero or buildi hope they don't nerf it. it's not TOO strong. just parry it.
>>500250260if blue can dress themselves they do. if vindicta is smurfing in a low mmr match amber does
Anyone else getting small lag spikes when hit for huge damage? I also got them when i ulted as Warden and dealt a lot of damage but i don't know if it's because they were focusing me at the same time
Okay phantom strike infernus is funny, but damn it's a shorter range than I thought>>500249803>>500249358>>500249108Blue took itI didn't realize until after the match just how far behind we were with Ivy playing the way they did
>>500250478>still using tracklock
is it worse to go 3/6 or 13/17?
>getting urn>get to dropoff point>3 enemies waiting for me>i am stalling them>in the mean time, the enemy takes 3 walkers>enemy bum rushes me and takes urn anywayYep, that's an easy abandon.
>>5002507023/6 is better if you have 10 assistsdying is generally worse than getting kills
>>5002507023/6 is worse, the other guy is making a lot of space
>>500250249Should be the other way around. If haze is on my team I almost always lose
>stop playing geist>start winningso it's that easy, huh?
>>500244426the game needs a 4th pick called 'if I'm carry'dont fucking bozo the clown my ass when I'm fucking around as hilarious dynamo, I need to know when I'm allowed to chill out and when I need to lay down the law
So when do ranks update? in 20 minutes?
>>500250857I don't know what this board is smoking saying Geist is op or some shit. She wasn't that good before the nerf and now she's even wrose
>>500250857I kind of want to try geist because the lane phase, especially for confirming and denying souls, seems like it should be easy with that gun, the velocity on it is kind of crazy
>>500250924you are bad. that's it. geist is wildly overpowered
Haze v1 when?
>>500250929>slow fire rate percise gun is easy for soul confirmingCompared to fast fire weapons or shotguns you are at a disadvantage
Is there an inhouse going on right now? I'm done with ranked and wanna stay up today.>>500250901They update tomorrow at 2 pm pst like last time.
>>500250613>1/7 Haze>2.5k objective damage Wraith>feeding Shiv with no healingay carumba
>>500250929her gun is good but the fire rate is slowher 1 and 3 have really short cooldowns but every time you miss one of them it's effectively a losing trade because of the self-damage
>>500251198OCE is wild, anon
>>500250740>>500250772the reason i ask is because i feel like i was the dead weight on this team, but i was mostly trying to keep lanes pushed and occasionally jumping into a teamfight for affliction/soften people up. the match felt pretty even overall, but i'm not really sure what i could have done other than just be better at securing kills and shutting down haze earlier on
>>500251371your player damage is high and your objective damage is the best on your team
>>500251029I been seeing a lot of people begging for v1 haze from kino prime
>>500251692all of those "people" are footfags
Old Geist was better
>>500251942looks like a disney character
So is Geist's giant shawl an important part of her hitbox? Will all her future skins have some kind of thing around her shoulders/neck?
>>500252172I have no idea if it's part of her hitbox but it is definitely an important part of her silhouette.
OH GREAT, LASH
>>500252172Geist's massive gyatt is an important part of her hitbox, yet I'd bet my left nut that her first skin will cover it.
>enemy ganks me early>team never calls missing>i ask for help>watch them on the map to see they aren't at least making an attempt to help>they don't respond to me in any way shape or formthis was the first time i ever abandoned, i just didnt feel like my team deserved a win with 0 communication. if they just verbally acknowledged me i wouldve stayed.
>>500244657>can farm without being molested and get even stronger to win the next teamfight more easilyobjectives getting weaker as the game goes along means this is the optimal strategy, sorry!
>>500252337Sorry that's what I mean. It's not part of her hitbox iirc
How does Yamato 1 work? It feels like it hits people who were way out of range sometimes
>winning pretty steadily>take one of their shrines and back out because it's 3v3>infernus *abandons* (got the message that it's okay to leave)>win 5v6 like 7 minutes laterWhy do this
>>500246759when carbine is charged you get a flat % increase to all speeds, this combines with the already high burst of speed from airdashing right after jumping to cover tons of ground, let alone all the stuff walljumping to keep momentum can do.once you get the cooldown low enough and duration high enough with upgrades/items I'll literally just charge it to travel around the map and never really feel like I don't have carbine for when I need it, instead I find someone farming and pop them in the ass from a mile away most of the time
>mcginnis turrets do not trigger or interact with items, like pocket afflictionboom, character bandaid fixed until a rework is done
>>500252982there's no way you're eternus you fucking liar. I saw you post a screenshot and you were emissary. Lying cunt
>>500253103yoshi just spit in your face
>>500253103Why do mcginnis turrets have better anti-hero AI than guardians?Guardians need to prioritize heroes who've hit heroes in range, desu
New loch>>500253359>>500253359>>500253359>>500253359
>>500217404burrow + fleetfoot go zoooom
5/5 ranked loss with haze teammates today Such a fucking terrible character, basically a blackhole for your team for 20 min and more if they don't have the decency to build right
>>500247382how so? The proc cooldown is attached to the item, not the character you're shooting.
>they don't know I just hit my late game powerspike w/ crippling headshot>they don't know M'lady Geesed is on her way>they don't know i bought debuff reducer>they don't know I have a 700 spirit shield >get a triple kill for the final push into the base and we finished gameBarely managed to go even in K/D, but every time it counted I wonHoping the game stays this good cause damn
