>UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS/ggg/: NONENA/EMEA weeklies/monthlies: https://x.com/nafgcto>UPCOMING EVENTSParis Games Week | Oct. 23 - Oct. 27: https://www.youtube.com/live/IIYDPLu9L_AQueen Dizzy and Major Balance Patch | Oct. 31Team of 3 Open Beta #2 | Nov. 8 - ???Arc World Tour 2024: https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/awt2024/>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame Data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGSTPlayer Glicko-2 ratings: http://puddle.farm/top/allFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://twitter.com/Precho6055/status/1778514309015826445>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive >/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Modhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Displayhttps://github.com/Chitaso/StriveFrameViewer/releases (1.08/Pre Season 4)>Season 4 Balance Update Trailer, Oct 31sthttps://youtu.be/61_NyQKnU0w?si=aqCiNAwtInBV9b4y>Queen Dizzy DLC Trailer, Oct 31sthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H8lZpluJWc>Queen Dizzy Starter Guidehttps://youtu.be/H0ha3-S926k?si=-fu7s2YJEfxoj0hl>Latest Dev Backyard (17th Volume, June 28th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2249/>Latest Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.39>Current Balance Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.38>Nintendo Switch Edition Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9zCMBXz57k>Xrd/+R/#R Stuff:https://pastebin.com/tS6sjRUdhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/State platform and region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!SLASHED: >>500225152
I found these funny posts in the archive.
here is your season 5 bro
>>500338704>Implying Season 5 will have 4 characters instead of 3
>>500338518I was searching for the May Xturd image the other day and it's funny that for three years Strive has mindbroken people on this website
>>500338089
Stop pretending like you faggots aren't absolutely stockholmed by Strive.
>>500339712GIWTWM
>>500339712I don't know what to say, I played Strive and I played Xrd and I just liked Strive more
>>500338518>muh "not a real fan" elitismIt's funny every time
>>500339712I actually legit like strive
>>500339532holy sexo
sex with sajam
>>500340287>>>/sfg/
based
>>500340287Okay chat room. Okay.
>>500338089>>500306792Thanks for the second sign out, daisuke.Only on tuesday.Lobby's back up.
>>500338206no proof
garuda should be backdashable
It's so funny checking the other fighting game generals and they shit on their current game even more than /ggg/ does on striveThey even have the same gamewarring with the previous game, it's like entering to an alternate dimension
The entire Strive playerbase: Feeling cute, might shit myselfAlbus Dumbledore: Yes, yes, well done, Slytherin. However...Claire: Did you just Spin RC me? That was patched out!!!TempestNYC: I have.... suicidal ideations.......Umisho: That bussy had a home. A family.Razzo: I swore on a rosary!Punk: I DON'T EVEN PLAY THIS GAME YOU CARRIED BURGER BUMSonicfox: He can say it!Daisuke Ishiwatari: Guilty Gear is queerParacelsus: umm... meow?Hotashi: Boy am I glad he's in there, and we're out here.Leffen: That fat nigger piece of shit should kill himself. Americans are such nazis.The force ghosts of BasedCumKing, Gogetabros, and Sneed Chungus: Ouch, that's gotta hurt!Tariq Nasheed: The Wolfycord... sends their regards...Idom taking Poisons OoeyGooeyChewySnicker cock: You sad, sad little manDizzy in a burqa: 'cause I'm spinnin' out now (woah woah-woah)intellectic9155: Diaphone is the most beautiful trans woman I have ever laid eyes on.Jam Kuradoberi: Come home, white man.RedIAmNot: 3v3 will score me the juiciest bussy goldmineLordKnight: Baiken. was. RAPED.Nitro after winning Evo: They just want a young black man in chainsAndre Matos: So, carry on, there's a meaning to life
>>500340843GranblueGAWDS love their game, and rightfully so.
Why is Testament voice in JP a female voice?
>>500340832slidehead should be unblockable
>>500341117deal
>>500341054He's a faggot.
>>500341152deal
>>500341117Would this even change anything? You basically have to backdash or jump it anyway
aisha's voice is unbearable in half of the songs
>>500341018Is that why they spend their time in other games' generals?
>>500341617I always down back and throw the hammerfall right after. Not being able to do that would make a big difference in how i approach the character,
>>500341768Yup. Might be hard for a soivah to understand, but when you have a genuine love of something, you're not ashamed to share it. You don't have to hide away in your tranny discord and only talk about soive there because you know you'd be laughed at about it anywhere else. GranblueGAWDS wear their passion on their sleeve because they know that passion is well-founded.
>>500341880you get better reward if you do cS after block but you do you
>>500341880hey... you look pretty cute in that yellow dressdo you happen to have a discord, sweetie? ;)
>>500341875that's hot
>>500341998So passionate they forgot to play their game KEKAROOOOO
>>500342143didn't ask but ok.
>>500341880I'm struggling to think why I'd hammerfall after a blocked slidehead like that. Or why if you clearly reacted to it with the tap FD why you'd not do a much better option. Especially as Bridget with his very fast backdash recovery and long range normals.
>>500339532>Grab Ky hair>Put it on Ram>Call it a dayMost "modders" are such frauds holy shit
>>500342432just felt like it i guess.
>>500342368lol
>>500341880Bro that's hammerfall break, you could've carved that Pot like a thanksgiving turkey.
>>500342942yup
>>500338518i bought xrd -SIGN- at a used game store in tokyo in 2015where is my real fan cred
>>500341764Those legs tho
>>500269262Posted in last threadSauce?
>>500343084If you haven't dominated Takadanobaba Mikado regulars with a single credit hogging a machine all day by beating the fuck out of everyone get outta here
>>500343084I have sealed SIGN and Revelator copies signed by drysuke and some nigga who was with him it was i think that main animator or something. I will also glaze myself that I own sealed copy of God Hand signed by Mikami too.
>>500343084>usedFakest of fans
breadly sin
>>500344569you can't fool me ragnaposter, that's ragna with an eyepatch
Wishing 6p's were more unique instead of the dedicated anti air button. But I think Sol 6p used to wall bounce into itself, so nah guess.
Posting paying for food Ragna to remind you that he should->>500338704actually nevermind, TAGER FOR STRIVE LESGOOOOO
>>500344569I know it had constant clipping issues but I much prefer Sin's cross being on a necklace rather than just being superglued to his shirt.
>>500344985I don't mind them being the anti-air button, but they could be more unique within that niche, like Leo's 6P in Xrd. I suppose that maybe highlights why they're not that unique though, because in making Leo's unique they also basically just made it shit compared to other's. I'm not overly fond of 6Ps like +R Testaments or Order Sol's though.
>>500344985I don't mind them being the AA button, I just wish they weren't the anti f.S button too
>>500343913Djeeta and Raziel from Granblueit was made by some anon in /gbfg/
>>500345652I don't play +R enough. Is Testament's 6p in +R supposed to be bad, or am I just not using it right?
>>500346049It's good, but it's an overhead, and it's mostly used as an overhead in his pressure rather than as an anti-air even if it still has normal 6P upper body invincibility.
>>500346285Ohh. Weird when compared to Strive, but a cool niche.
>>5003449856Ps have to fit a certain mold in Strive because there are a number of moves that are balanced around 6p. Like how bad GL was before they changed his 6p, because he had no answer to certain f.s moves
>>500344386I didn't know I was going to like it okay the only thing I knew about it was that it had the sickest art style of any game ever madeit's moot because I played it ultracasually anyway due to still learning fighting games in general at the time
>>500345854>Djeeta and Raziel from Granblue>it was made by some anon in /gbfg/Truly amazing
Could any Guilty Gear old-heads explain how previous titles differ from Guilty Gear Strive? How did Strive change Guilty Gear?
>>500348270they are completely different games.it's like comparing street fighter to blazblue
>>500348270strive has a smaller stage, shorter combos, fewer special moves across the cast, a totally different gatling system, wallbreaks, and significantly higher damagethe biggest thing is that past games were focused heavily on air mobility and air combos while strive is very grounded
>>500348270>How did Strive change Guilty Gear?Making gatlings routes exactly the same across all the characters which in turn greatly limits the design of each individual character, its a trade off between depth and accessibility. I think its ok I like that Strive is braindead to pick up and play since I have obligations now.
>>500345234They could have let it move normally but only use canned physic animations for moments where letting the physics run as normal leads to it clipping or settling in wacky places.
>fight a combattimo>130msHow is this possible Italians? We share a god-damn border.
>>500349094At least you are not from SA, my laggiest matches were with fellow countrymen.
>>500348757Some characters Like Millia and Leo still have unique gatlings, though very minor. I just wish if they'd make more routes if they're going to make it universal. Things that would benefit everyone like f.s/2s > d. p > k. 5k > 2k etc. And less things that route back into themselves.
patch notes doko
>>500349352But South America is huge man. I could drive from the northernmost point of Switzerland to the toe of the boot in under 24hours. And most of that is because the roads south of Rome are terrible.
>>500349718A f.s > 2d gatling would be extremely useless for the majority of the cast and busted for those that could benefit from it.
>>500349352Yeah. Kinda somewhat related South/Central America and the Carribean are one of the hardest regions to create good divisions for in FG competitions. Pretty much no solution is a good one
>>500350184no it wouldn't
>>500349352>>500350524I saw a post on the Deadlock (Valve's new MOBA) forums from a Colombian complaining that he's being forced to play with Brazilians when he gets half ping on NA servers.SA doesn't have the infrastructure to be a single region.
>>500348642>>500348757I don't miss p,k,s,hs gatling at all really. It was boring. I feel if this had happened the other way around you people would accuse Strive of adding an autocombo.
>>500349718I didn't mind the gatling changes in the beginning, but after years I really do find myself missing normal gatlings. And I never got over how shit the airdashes feel. Even DBFZ has normal gatlings and snappy airdashes and that shit sold 10 million because turns out most casuals don't even care about mechanics. I really hope those mechanics make a return in future ASW games.
>>500351180my post was simply stating factual differencesi did not say if they were good or badi happen to like strive a lot and find doomposting obnoxious
>>500351180How was it boring?
I wouldn't mind faster Strive airdashes desuI hope the gay setplay never comes back dough
>>500349912It's more how the nodes were made in SA. East to West USA (and Canada) is all in one country so it has internet connecting as one blov it even if the gap is large. For SA there's multiple states and how they all connect to the wider internet can all vary. From the NCR in Canada to Chicago is like 27ms, Santiago to Sao Paolo and Brasilia is like 47ms and 62ms respectively and that's like best case scenarios for all those numbers.
>>500345854so desu ne
>>500351594Z combos are more of a magic series than a gatling. There's only a few rulebreakers for the L>M>H>S rule.
>>500352083Based. I dont mind gatlings,wallbreak or smaller kits but characters in Strive feels like shit to pilot. Movement doesnt exist in this game it feels like turbo ass.
>>500338518Strive did revolutionize the fgc but let’s just say it’s not in the way the shills were expecting
>>500352083I'm assblasted about Dizzy seemingly having only one airdash.
>>500352410I mean they're the same concept with slight differences, "chain combos," whatever, every game calls it something different. I just say gatlings because that's the term most anime players know.
>>500352410There isn't really a difference. Normals canceling into normals are normals canceling into normals no matter what you call them.
>>500343084I bought Guilty Gear (it wasn't called Missing Link, that's weeaboo revisionism) for 3 euros when I was 10 years old. I barely played it and didn't get into fighters until my twenties.
>>500341054>japanese voice>woman>korean voice>woman>english voice>man who thinks he is a woman but does a deep man voiceSomeone didn't get the memo apparently.
>>500354979ASW USA is in California so it's staffed by nepotistic trannies.
>2 fish at once
>>500355310One fish, two fish, ___ fish, ____ fish?
>>500354979I think it's a good casting choice.
it's up https://youtu.be/CGJn_32FpQk
Dizzy is deadLong live DEIzzy
Let's imagine Dustloop closes tomorrow and is shut down permanently.Would it be possible for an absolute beginner to get good at a game like Guilty Gear? Not talking about Strive especially, it would be even more important for XX or Xrd.Most of my fighting game level comes from watching better players and learning ressources, has there been any example of someone getting good at fighting games by just playing? I feel like it's impossible. The amount of shit you need to learn is uncomparable to any other video games.Take just Xrd Dizzy for example, I cannot believe you can figure out by yourself the 4 types of character specific delays needed for her optimal oki without looking it up.
>>500353246and one fish
>>500357002wayback machine will save us
>>500357002I don't think you realize just how rare dustloop is bro. SF6 Ryu, the most popular fighting game character in the most popular fighting game* has this rather sad wiki article:https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6/Ryu Compare this to the grand Jack-O bible. A niche character in a (comparatively) niche game:https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Jack-O/StrategyAnd that wiki page is remarkable for street fighter. SFV had nothing like this. Tekken 8 is extremely complicated and doesn't have any tech website aside from the graveyard that is wavu wiki and hushed whispers on discords. My first fighting game, SF4, had nothing. I learned what a link was when my friend taught it to me, I have no clue how he learned what it was. People just hopped on and mashed until they got better. Admittedly learning terrible habits on the way.*disclaimer: personally I feel SF6 is the worst fighting game I've ever played, though its popularity is undeniable, if a mystery to myself
>>500355949wait a minute. IS aba slower?
is ABA fun? I'm thinking of learning Sol and ABA, and maybe Dizzy if I ended up liking her.
>>500357002pretty sure if dustloop went down, someone would either make a new one or use the wayback machine to resurrect it
>>500357959they learned for gamefaqs guides which were MUCH better than any wiki especially for sf games and older fighting games. also forums and irc.
>>500357002Old games are less competitive.If you just figure stuff out yourself you can do just fine even if its far from optimal.Also you can still watch other peoples games and copy them.
>>500357002it would just move to mizuumi where the real games live
>>500355949he always sounds so bored.
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>>500358172>is ABA funEhhh. Right now she's fun because winning is fun. If they nerf her too severely then you're going to be a small mentally deranged girl chained to a metal post.As she is right now, the character seems quite basic. You play a slow midscreen game until you're sufficiently jealous then JOHN FUCKING MADDEN the other guy. With mixups so overwhelmingly powerful the only escape is burst or RC.
>>500358750I love hags
>>500359162>I love hagsMe too. Me too.
>>500355949>sees starter guide that includes all of her special moves>they didn't show bubbleYeah, no shit?
Strive needs to do a promotion with Five Alive.
>>500358325I meant figuratively, obviously if Dustloop is down it can be brought back and some people must have saved the data. I'm meaning like all the ressources of GG dissapear from the internet, how do you get good.>>500358397Perhaps is this because I'm not that good but I cannot even believe how people can just "figure out" the most insane shit in those game.I can't believe there are actually people that can just lab a bizarre mix 1000 times and realize at one point that it hits crossup instead of sameside because of a hitbox bug.I get that experienced fighting game players know how fighting game in general works and they can theorycraft shit on the go and understand frame data naturally but when a new game came out and there was only beginners how the fuck did people even got to understand all the shit that was going on.
>>500358750have fun newfrens
>>500358750joining in 5
diaphone is suspiciously handsome
>>500357002A very big thing about fighting games is the community, you learnt things through other people in arcades and now that has moved to online resources, forums, and discords. So I think a beginner could get good still through playing the game and then interacting with other people online either by sending them a message on steam or by talking in Xrd lobbies. And maybe it might even force people to talk about the game here. There's also in game tutorials, I think Xrd's is pretty good and even teaches you how to throw OS iirc. But with +R you would have to just test out things yourself.
>>500355310is that confirmed?
>>500360942yes
>>500361080dizzybros... we are so fucking back...
>>500361080Holy pepperoni...2 FISHES?!?!
>2 fish>2 hits
>>500361080soivers i'm shitting myself this is too scary
so it's confirmed she only has 1 airdash now?
>>500357959>>500357002Nowadays if you want to learn a fighting game that isn't on Dustloop you have to go to D*scord.The only alternative is playing at locals.
>>500361080OH NO NO NO NO NO TOURISTBROS WHAT ARE WE GONNA BITCH ABOUT NOW
>>500357959does 8wayrun have a tekken section or is it soulcalibur only
>1 air >1 dash
>>500362973bros dont google 8wayrun...
>>500357959and this is why i'm never gonna touch a game that hasn't a rich wiki. Exact reason why i did i refused to play tekken 8. It's already a huge effort to git gud imagine not having decent resources. Fuck outta here
>>500360880i don't like this idea at all. I don't wanna be forced to interact with people to get the sekrit knowledge when the internet is right here. Also what if those people are assholes and i don't like them? I wanna learn on my own
So if we have "okey" does that mean we have a "dokey" or "okey-dokey"
>>500363663>I wanna learn on my own>By reading things other people learned
>>500361080>*mogs you*
>>500364406i-it's fine though if testament manages to throw him while stained he gets extra damage
>>500364406Testament probably told Johnny all of Dizzy's weaknesses
>>500361080imagine if you could jump cancel any of these and then do the fireball
>>500358750ggs bed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9WgYW0ruE)
>>500364406the risk/reward for choosing to mf projectiles looks awful. the meter build is absolutely pathetic. he should build at least 1/4 of a bar of tension to incentivize his opponents to not try and zone him
>>500365547>MFing two projectiles should give Johnny access to Vault PRC, one of the most degenerate neutral skips in the gameI'm going to kill you
>>500365547delusional johnny main post
>>500365656retard
>>500366040Still too much. It should actually cost tension since he's playing like a pussy, too many and he gets negative penalty
>>500365547Nah.
>>500366184>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COUNTER MY PROJECTILES LET ME ZONE YOUlmfao cry me a river, nigger
>>500366184>my zoning is fair>yours is gay and should cost meter
>>500366590Yes
>>500366184>fireball zone spam>calling others pussiesironic
>>500366184a testicle player saying this is funny
All I'm saying is that if fucking Bedman needles can give negative penalty so should Johnny spamming MF.>>500366669Don't you ever call me that again bitch.
>>500366737Testament? More like Test-a-my-patience!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqXi-SVZzu8
https://youtu.be/coS5-qg-I98Another godlike Clayton video.
Luce may colors when
>>500365547JOHNNY TESTAMENT IS 7:3 FOR JOHNNYPLEASE I BEG YOU JOHNNYSEXUAL CAN YOU LET US GET A SEMBLANT OF WIN AT LEAST ONCE, WHAT TYPE OF GREED IS THIS?
>>500367242the church is so cooked
>>500367682anything that causes protestant seething is based
>>500367595Katano loves buffing top tiers and nerfing shit characters
>karas are gone on potto what end though
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2340/wake up
>>500358750ggs
>>500369220we're saved
>Guard crush beak driver follow upGuard crush beak driver follow up>Guard crush beak driver follow upGuard crush beak driver follow up>Guard crush beak driver follow upGuard crush beak driver follow up>Guard crush beak driver follow upGuard crush beak driver follow up
Solbros... we finally have different routes... but at what cost...?
>>500367595If Johnny players even vaguely have to actually interact with zoning in their life they fucking explode. Their character is not allowed to have a downside.
>satisfying heavy damage the game is known for>satisfyingi will wait for the next guilty gear game
>>500358750zoning millia. the alternative play.
>Zato 6P nerfedhhhehehehe
is this the first rival theme in strive?
And that's it.Sol's 5K is no longer 3 frames.This is now officially no longer Guilty Gear.We can all go home.
it took them 4 years to nerf 6ps across the board lmao
>>500369828AAAAAAA
>these Sin changesSin xisters....are we ded or
>>500370035sol 5k isn't 3 frames in xrd
completely ruined Mays normals, twitter bros, you won
>>500370209Xrd is also not Guilty Gear.
>lower damage across the board>every 6P nerfed>Sol 5K gutted>Mappa Hunch nerfedwhat will the doomers complain about now?
>axl nerfedWat le fug
>>500370269xrd is #reload which is guilty gear
>>500370425It was #reload at launch. And Sol's 5K was still 3 frames then.
>>500368623>>500369724Reminder that Johnny was bottom 3 for about 80% of the time he's been on the roster.
>>500370378>lower damage across the boardthey literally increased the damage of a metric fuck ton of moves, this is the most placebo thing they have ever tried to do. we can also see in the trailer the effects of that. the defense changes are doing absolutely nothing.
every (usable) sin follow up guard crushes, funny stuff
>>500370509Cool.His entire shtick is being slow, you should have a bad matchup against zoners.
>>500370584the number of interactions per round on average was increased thoughbeit
>Zato buffsBooooo
>>500370424Not even the nerfs, hes no longer a charge character lmao
>>500370720>the number of interactions per round on average was increased thoughbeitkek yeah, sure.
>Ky got midscreen VT loopsNeat
why is the potemkin top 1 patch
>HC clone is now uselessbased
>Pot lost ALL his karasKek there went Strive's singular technical character
>>500370191Stamina gain is slower, but these changes look hilarious in a good way. Just being able to command dash raw is big and changes the way he starts his approach. Hoof stomp followup being able to LAUNCH instead of tumble is also big
they killed garudog
We're in the DBFZ era of patches, the fuck eSports era. Get ready for some. S O V L.
gio unironically bottom tier now
>>500371225Slayer still has pilebunker loops and Asuka is still Asuka.
>Baiken gets back her free guard cancelsHAHAHAHAWOW!
>>500371468Pilebunker loops are auto timed and Asuka is a minigame characterPot was the only actually execution challenging character in Strive
>>500371552>Pilebunker loops are auto timedI think there's only one that's autotimed.
They REALLY don't want ram getting back her swords. God damn
>>500371643Fucking good.
Uhhhh doomsissies I thought this patch was gonna kill the game
Dizzy has 5 guts? Damn what a jump from having 1 in xrd.
NOTAS DEL PARCHA
>May>Increased Damage>Increased Damage>Increased Damage>Increased Damage>Increased Damage>Increased Damage
whats the damage report on ABA
>>500370771>>500370424>clean hit propertiesAm I misremembering things or did Axl have clean hit properties on his chain before?
lmao they completely got rid of dizzy's old archetype, she has 5 fucking guts
>remove guard crush from everyone>give it to ramWhat is this strategy called?
GIVE A FUCK8NG LINK REEEEEE
>>500371517We are so fucking back.
>>500372025https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2340/#p22open up and say thank you
>Sol 5K nerfOWARI DA>IT'S OVEROWARI DA>IT'S OVEROWARI DA>IT'S OVEROWARI DA>IT'S OVEROWARI DA>IT'S OVEROWARI DA>IT'S OVEROWARI DA>IT'S OVER
Why did they buff everyone's health and then also buff the damage on like every single attack
>they actually nerfed Ky againL M A O
>>500372187because they are retarded
MY KNEES....... THEYRE BENDING ON THEIR OWN.......
>>500372104the general nerfs to his midrange game bother me more than that (especially since everyone lost 3framers) 2bh but i'm interested in his new routing
>>500372187means single hits remain about as powerful as before but combos will do less damage due to how damage scaling workssource: i went to college
BAIKEN HAS A GUARD CANCELBAIKEN HAS A GUARD CANCELBAIKEN HAS A GUARD CANCELWE ARESOFUCKINGBACK
>>500372007He didnt have actual clean hits before unless you count the chain hitting twice as clean hits.
>>500372348that's cool but everyone's gonna scream about how this dumbs the game down by de-incentivizing long combos or doing combos at all
there, pot buster is not armored frame 1
>>500372534It's a good change, fighting games should be about neutral rather than combo strings.
erm, why do all the zato changes sound like nerfs
>>500372534I don't give a fuck what people cry on Twitter about
karas are dead
low health characters are not gonna be playable lol what the fuck are they doing.
>>500372534it doesn't though it just means that there are more interactions per round on averagecombos remain powerful because your opponent can't stop you from comboing him once you connect without using burst
>>500372738play Sol
>>500371898what were they fucking thinking
>>500372738>remove more hard things from the game for some reason
>>500372738SOL BADGUY
thinking of dropping gio for elphelt
I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I FUCKING HATE YOU I WISH ALL OF YOU DIE ARCSYS YOU NERFED MY FUCKING BOTTOM5 CHARACTER AND GAVE BUFF TO THE FUCKING RETARDED SCRUB ASS TOP1 CHARACTERS FOR FRAUDSIM LOSING MY MIND IM GOING INTO THE LOBBY AND DM EVERY SINGLE PLAYER SPAMMING THEM NIGGER UNTIL I DIE, BAN ME I CREATE 700 ACCOUNTS I DONT CARE
>>500371898her neutral is gutted you dumb fuck
>Ky no longer has a 1.00 damage multiplierso i have to use may as my training dummy now?
>They changed sickle flash inputi hate this but everything else looks cool i guess
>>500372497baiken is back.... y-yay....
Why do they hate millia so much
>ANJI IS A CHARACTER WHO LAUNCHES HIS OFFENSE WHILE TAKING ON RISK
This should've been a s1 change not a s4 one
>>500373120kek
faust j.2k and mini faust nerfed for pittance item buffs? it's a strive faust patch alright
>>500373102they hate mixup characters in general just look at the zato overview LOL>making it harder to lead into mixup stringsit's strike throw thats the only thing youre allowed to do in street fighter strive
>>500373205is that a buff or a nerf?
It's literally just cancelling note into noteIt's not even note being special cancellableYou can now cancel noteinto another noteIf your opponent was trying toDODGENOTE
>shot millia in her only good movelmao why do we have millia
>>500373241why does this image exist
Now that Testament is bottom1 I'm switching mains.For the people reading the patch, tell me if your main got better and I'll chose who to main.
We have decided to emphasize what makes each character uniqueIn the case of Happy Chaos, that was the fact that he is the feet character, please enjoy more feet utillity from the attack where he stretches out his little toesies and puts them on your head
>pot karas deletedhttps://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiIdropping this game
>>500373598>also buffed his sweep
hey millia guy they made her 6p more standard, congrats
>buff all the high damaging characters>nerf all the low damaging charactersLOOOOOOOOL
>>500373567My main was put in the game. That's a improvement.
>Anji can now Rin faster and get nothing out of it, not even with RC>Nagiha worse and even easier to punish>But you get meme cancels from charged fuujin and with a more clearer visual cue, something that was trivial to react with throw before it became activeIts so over...
>pot lost white wild assaultmost kino patch of all time
how many hours until the patch24?36?48?
Did...Did Baiken win???
>>500372705how
>>500373872>gains an advancing guard crushnigga he got blue wild assault its worst case scenario
>>500373301It's a straight buffCurrently if you try and low profile something with a lot of active frames Stroke will trade because I-No's hurtbox extends up the same frame Stroke becomes activeI've gotten hit by Nago 2H while trying to punish it on a read
i'm sorry but what mixup does millia have with j.d i don't play her but i don't think i've ever seen that normal be used for mixups.
>>500373883She got her guard cancel back.So yes.
>>500373968j.d can't mix up lol, it's just for punishing people who autopilot their fuzzy
>>500373567>While throwing your opponent while they're stained won't actually lead to any damage, hey, corner carry, eh? eh??
>>500374037then what the fuck are they talking about in these patch notes
>>500373750>no longer have a dysfunctional 6p>traded the only good move in our kitlmao>>500373968theyre changing j.D to allow for her to mix with it. the only times you'd use it is for either air combos, corner air blockstring, or tk.bm rrc.
>>500372954>Elphelt got a bunch of useless meme changes AND lost blue wild assault, one of the only ways to jail into rekkas from midrangeI wouldn't get your hopes up, its still hard countered by universal mechanics such as 6P, backdash and air throw
Any and all Millia nerfs are a good thing
>More active frames for Baiken parry
I'm just sitting in shock that they actually changed character wild assault colorsI genuinely thought it would never, ever happen
>>500373567Jack-o got only got her 2k 2d gutted. Basically a slap on the wrist. Hold Servant dash cancels sound silly.
>Due to us just recently buffing the shit out of Johnny, he's received less changes>Here's another massive gigabuff while testament and bedman still fight over the right to lick dirt
>Here I Go! can now be canceled into a dash when the attack connects.>This makes it versatile, useful in combos, strings, and other situations....does it?Isn't dash cancelling like, completely useless in all scenarios???? To the point where if you need to move forward in combos, you actually have to learn the timing to AVOID doing a dash cancel so you can microdash????
>>500374581Leave Johnny to me.
that baiken change, downplaying on twitter really works and it's ruining the game
>>500374990this nigga thinks post-nerf hirragi was good
>Increased the recovery of Mappa Hunch (P Version).
>>500374990Are you implying Season 3.5 Baiken was good?
>>500375214>Crouching HS>Increased Recovery
>can now cancel charged fuujin into fuujin, kou, or hopi thought he could he always do that outside of doing fuujin again, maybe anji was always trash and i didnt know
>>500375214>>500375452Did you guys really think that shit was fair
>>500375534What exactly was wrong with P mappa hunch?
xturders what does it mean she can do parry on block? This bitch can't be pressured anymore?
>>500375534Yes.
>>500375585Being able to make 2H -1
>>500375651It means you have to structure your pressure around the risk of getting parried.She now actually has good defense.
in other news, normal mode hopkick was nerfed
Do you guys think Slayer "Moving Faster at the start of his back dash" is them fixing his weird-ass bugged-ass backdash without admitting that the boxer character with a special on backdash released with a completely nonfunctional backdash
>>500375760so frametraps like i always did?
>>500375837It's them admitting that his backdash didn't fucking work.
>>500375808Out of every character in the game, one of the only few that got any kind of real nerf was Normal Mode Abathink about that
>she/her againCHUDBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
>>500375984>>500375808They want the feast or famine character to be feast or famine.
>>500374736There is a specific window on the early part of dash cancel where you can cancel the full animation with another move, Anji for instance uses this extensively to be able to catch falling targets with K and dash cancel into Kou with increased forward momentum which in turn allows him to score wall to wall combos out of most practical hitconfirms without spending resources. In theory this would allow Elphelt to not death sentence herself the very first moment she connects the first rekka on block to anyone who has a fast backdash, or things like being able to cancel the first rekka into early dash cancel into cross up bomb and such.
wtf i was reading the goldlewis notes and my router started beeping and shut off
I can't believe Baiken actually wonI thought the devs hated her
>>500376097i'm kind of disappointed she didn't get anything. was really hoping for yoyo to not go away on block, air ok starship, something to make f.s and hs different. anything would be better than this.
So there's a total of one (1) new specialHow many years has it been since we were promised one for everyone in season 1 and 2?
wasnt 3v3 supposed to be out with season 4
>>500376604one and a half if you count gazelle step being usable in neutral as a new thing
>nago nerfed into the groundKek
>>500376760I don't count any Sin thing that isn't a nerf
really liking this patch so far, besides the untouched faggot johnny gear
>>500376760also the faust golfclub being usable on its own
>>500376735we're getting another beta soon
I like that elphelts rekka HS is buffed so I have more reason to try to hear WAAAUUUU when she says it one in every 4 fucking times she does the movedeath metal singer btw
>>500376604it's been like 1 year
>>500376897Top 1 Johnny. We rev 2 baby
sinsisters its literally over for us
>>500377191I don't understand. Was he kara'ing his followups into supers?
>We wanted to make stamina matter more>We're also not buffing Eat Food to interact with the stamina meter in any way
>>500377308he can kara cancel any special or followup into super, it used to require 1 stamina but it didn't consume it, now it does
>>500377437Well, I guess it makes sense that he should have to pay stamina to super cancel his specials.
Do bridget fans really believe that a man will become a woman just by saying so?
>>500377014they honestly should make it's own move like faust golf club if they want to make it actually useful. a charge input would be good.
>>500377707>Do bridget fans really believe that a man will become a woman just by saying so?Yes, so?
>>500377707Yes, but it's because they define "woman" as "someone who claims to be a woman." This is circular and therefore meaningless, but their brains are so fried by HRT that they don't realize the irrationality of it.
>>500377707Bro I don't care.
well it was nice actually talking about the game while it lasted
>>500377707What the fuck is your problem chuddie?
>>500377707>Do bridget fans really believe that a man will become a woman just by saying so?fuck off tourist, back to /vpol/
>>500371552>he actually believes thislmaoing at you
>>500377940>Release the worst fucking possible patch ever>All so people try to take solace on DLC characters>And afterwards release Guilty Gear Re:Strive as a separate title for full price that actually promises to fix the gameSasuga Katano-san
>>500377965so true xister, transwomyn just want to hecking exist!
>Everyone talking about patch notes for a solid hour>Now thisAs if anyone ever doubted it was always discord raiders
>>500377940i mean what really changed worth talking about? Systematically it's still the same game from the last patch. Some characters will do stuff differently, but how the game is played is still the same.
>>500373351have you watched bb/bcs?
OK the patch looks good. anyways back to playing other games while waiting for the patch
just know when I wall break with golf club it is sexually gratifying for me
>>500377707fuck you
>>500378495It will be too slow
>>500377707You lost.
>>500370378>lower damage across the boardwe say this every patch and even in patches where they lower the damage of moves, but the damage output always ends up higher
>>500377707I always engage with these posts because even if there are no trannies lurking (lol) the soive players get assmad from the derail
>>500376815you don't think guard crush and increased chip is a buff
>>500358750Closed. Thanks to those who came.
>>500377707People who actually like him don't, no.
>>500378740this move was massacred btw
>>500378642>the damage output always ends up higherNo it doesn't
>>500377707How the fuck does that affect you you stupid motherfucker? huh? go fuck yourself and go play tekken or something FUCK YOU
Are we currently being raided?
>johnny gets nothing besides something he should've had since release grim
>>500379038by stupid chuds from tekken general? yep
>>500378905lol
I would have taken a change to positive bonus, rc and wall breaks over some meme changes desu.
How're things lookin', GioSisters?
so uh why did they nerf millia
>>500379318fuck you that's why
Now that I'm going to be seeing Mob a lot more I have to question whether to keep my RADIO mod or replace it with https://youtu.be/qcKeicuElcU?si=4RP4X-OWVo5WN_C3
>>500379073nothing tops bridget, but leo is a close second for causing troon goonouts
>>500379392>but leo is a close second for causing troon goonoutscan I get a QRD why?
>>500379392(tekken leo)
genuinely why are the low hp characters even in this game for LOL
>>500379536>>500379536its either fags gooning to a reverse trap fantasy or the troon fantasy of molesting/grooming a young feminine boy.
These ram changes are the worst thing to ever happen to this characterwhy remove every single unique mechanic from a character a lot of people already find boring in favor of creating another fucking guard crush character
>>500379716because youre playing guilty gear strive
Strive worth buying yet?
Soon my leverless will arrive and I'll get to enjoy kusoge gear at it's finest
>can't advance at 2m/h while blocking anymore>no more follow-up after hopkick>hopkick even less How the fuck am I supposed to get to the opponent and fill-up my gage now? This completely ruins the character for no fucking reason. And JM was nerfed as a whole due to defense buff for all the cast + no damage buff for JM. And the reward to counterbalance those miserable nerfs? Danzai hit 2 "damage buff" and follow-up if counter-hit. A move that takes 1/4 of the bar to execute and that all characters burst anyways. It's Zato nerfs all over again. Fuck arcsys not touching that garbage til blocking attacks make the gauge refill.
>>500379242No guard crush feels bad. But we might have dp combos back and en214k has a use now
Are the Sin changes good?
>>500379716>why remove every single unique mechanic from a characterIt's Strive, you fucking idiot.
>>500379829kek they actually made normal mode worse than +r normal mode
>>500379829I'm gonna read this post repeatedly while I masturbate to completion
>leverlessYou didnt play the game, cheater scum.
New EHP for the rosterhttps://x.com/GravyTrainTTK/status/1851475465011413223/photo/2
>>500379584umm they buffed my low health characters defense so idk what youre talking about
>>500379829do forget they removed the auto dashblock as well :D
>>500379716strike throwbutton button speciallet's rock!
>>500340652lobby's closed.nite nitedoyers WILL win the world series jankees.
>>500380003Another piece of shit day in my worthless millia main life
>>500380003based thanks
>>500380003why the fuck did millia LOSE ehp
Removing kara cancels from Pot in favor of just turning him into a standard grappler gorilla seems really fucking boneheaded.
>>500380003>Dizzy almost dead centerWeird
>>500379916she already got the strive treatment once it wasnt supposed to happen again
>>500379892a lot of characters lost sources of guard crush
>>500380130youre playing guilty gear strive genuinely what were you expecting
I wish they would've given Bedman? better mix to compensate for him no longer having good pressure rather than higher damage. Not that I don't like higher damage but that's not really what I originally expected from the character when it got announced.
>>500380118She didn't need it
We were making memes about 1 fish but what we will post now that Pot cannot even kara anymore, an absolute trademark of the character for the last 20 years.
>>500380130yea in general i hate that they made the easy game even easier, simplifying inputs is corny i want my charge and dp inputs niggasuke
>>500380247>mix>in strivedude did you not read what they did to the mix characters in this fucking patch lmao, thats not happening.
>>500380130i've been saying kara's don't belong in a simple game like this. though they should have gave him a longer range, longer recovery variant in its place.
>>500380149shes not a pixie character anymore, it wouldn't make sense for her have low hp like before
qrd? im a glue eater (forma johnny) and dont understand half the shit in the patch notes
>>500380153And a lot gained moves that have it this patch
>>500380151The game has leads that regret not making the game easier and an audience that recoils whenever something gets added to it, additional trimming can happen at any time.
>>500379242real good, they removed garudog but buffed everything else. Tbh that move was really boring
>>500380361>did you not read what they did to the mix characters in this fucking patch lmao,I might have skipped around a bit too much and didn't actually internalize any new information, can you explain what they did for me?
>>500380247I don't know why he didn't get buffed more honestly, does the balance team not look at tier lists?
>>500379716playing neutral and resource management is way more interesting than looping pressure you mongrel
>>500380451They raised defense AND damage which is a weird choice but presumably means that stray hits do about as much as before while combos do less. Potemkin lost all his karas for some reason. Baiken got her guard cancels back. Johnny is going to be anal AIDS to fight for the next six months. Slayer got a slap on the wrist.
>>500380510they nerfed the fuck out of both millia and zato, sunvoid/drills and that entire squence to force mix was removed. you are not allowed to mix people up in strive.
>>500379829>feast/famine character is actually feast/famine now>this is bad somehow
>>500380451Universal 6p nerf, mf destroys projectiles and ensenga does more damageTa-dah
>>500380606>>500380639thank ya kindly partners
>>500380637theres a difference between normal mode being bad and normal mode being unusuable, even +r normal mode has a lot of amazing moves/movement to outplay.
>>500380526No, they just look at eceleb faggotry. If your character is not coomer-coded and no one plays it because it fucking sucks there will be no one to downplay it and so it will go absolutely unnoticed by Arcsys
>>500380618Unless you're bridgetBack to back unfuzziable 50/50s!
aba was firmly a mid tier and already a volatile character with a schizophrenic matchup spread, why would u make it worse lol
uh kappachino is getting upsettino at the patch notes again. They are having a meltdownino watch out watch out incoming copypasted posts
faustgods...
Please tell me we can all agree Nago is worse, those guard crush on HS terrify me.
>>500380894If you get hit by enough of those to die, you deserve it, his damage is shit and he's two nerfs away from being made of paper.
So A.B.A vs Baiken is gonna be cancer much closer to their +R matchup now? Ugh.
you might think these are two different fish, but if you look closely it's actually just one fish
>>500381218doesn't a.b.a do well against +r baiken
>>500381071What is there to melt down about? It's all the changes they've been begging for.
>Baiken can actually get something off her f.Sthank fucking god
we wuz vampires with fullscreen guardcrush and shiettt
>Axl>removed vacuum effect on RainwaterRIP Axl. That move was his only redeeming close range tool, now he's just a standard shitty zoner again.
>>500359739>they didn't show her most important moveit's over for soive
>>500381071i dont think anyone outside of 4chan knows about this general>>500381529they buffed bomber damage...... THOUGH
>>500381332How many times does it hit
>>500381529you don't have to do charge motions any more though, please enjoy
>>500381529>RIP AxlGo fuck yourself Axlfaggot, you got buffed damage on everything, better 6K, better input for rensen and rensen cancel into timestop.You have been eating for the last 3 fucking years your character has never been more alive.
>>500381609ichido
2 FISH
>>500381608>>500381708Doesnt matter, I liked being able to play him close up instead of zoning the whole match.At least Goldlewis got fucking juiced, ill just go back to him
2 fish
>>500338089Dizzy is better.
>>500381071>kappachinoThose fags stopped their Xrd, CF and +R weeklies that didnt even last a month because they were busy crying about Strive for 4 years. Fuck those guys
i dont know why
>aba lost her dash block(??????)>her special to approach enemies also got nerfed>her bad matchups got 10x worse>her good matchups also got worse>"here's your danzai buff bro">"btw parry is still shit"Do they genuinely play the game?
>>500382021good, fuck ABA and fuck ABA players
So who are the big winners of the patch?
>>500382021>abloobloo now I have to play my character instead of having risk free ways to get in and turn on autowin modeI hope you enjoy all your new changes when playing against full screen Dizzy
>>500382242and who do you play
>>500382152johnny, lewis, pot, baiken. uhhhh chipp
so what now? how the fuck do i play neutral now? everything i had centered around kapel... now what.
REVERT POT AND RAM
>>500382335pot lost kara cancel no?
>5 or so winners on the patch>the rest either got nerfed, lost their mechanics or got reworked to the same spotKek nice one arcsys
what changed with Leo?
>>500382402they did that for simplification, his moves now have increased range and they even gave potbuster armor on top of the range buff, giganter kai lingers in the corner, and they buffed all his pokes disjoint
>>500382351u pick another character cause millia is unironically bottom 2
>>500382468besides the fact that he can safely enter backturn now with 214S on block, any other changes revealed?
It has never been more over for kyfrauds
>>500379242I'm waiting for the TY verdict. He's been playing more Gio lately.
Anjibros what the fuck
>>500382468>>500382614nevermind i didn't realize the patch notes were out
>>500382485It is crazy how Pot stole Bridget's whole flow and target audience
>>500382696
It’s like they believe people actually enjoy guard crush as a mechanic and think it adds depth to the game. But everyone who talks about it just says it’s ass.
>>500380003Yo post one to compare with the old ones
>>500378812>>500378740I'm having a hard time reading through my patch notes, more has changed with literally every part of my game plan than I thought possible. Everyone thought they were going ham with that trailer but they're actually slowing the game down lmao.
>>500382696So uuuuuuuuuhAre we nerfed to hell or buffed the fuck out I legit can't tell, what the fuck
>>500383183i told you the other day kek
>>500382696The change will only affect the very same people who still fail the knowledge check years since launch. Turns out charged Fuujin now has a clear visual indicator on top of having the very same framedata unchanged, meaning anyone with half a brain can now trivially throw it on reaction
>>500383109
>>500383394>Anji also has less HP now in a patch dedicated to increasing health across the board
>>500383457nigga shut the fuck up have you SEEN millia
is it weird that i feel like Axl is ruined? I LIKED having a charge move - i dont wanna play without loops either...
>>500383551I know, my heart goes out to you Milliafags. You should really take the switch to fat Millia this patch
OK BUT WHY IS ARCSYS INCAPABLE OF LOWERING DAMAGE WITHOUT GETTING RID OF COMBO ROUTES
>>500383563hes been through worse
>>500382657Hard counter to scum dipper? Based.
>>500383635f.s hs special is the only route you need bro
>>500383563>I don't like having Sickle Flash on command!What an odd way to try to paint yourself as a victim of this patch
>>500383278Yeah while options all sound nice and all, I can't think of a situation where I would care to throw another charged fuujin or kou after making the opponent block a fuujin anyways.
>>500382657Leave her to me
>>500383773If my playstyle is fucked im not going to play the character, even if he's buffed
>>500375361no, you stupid nigger
>>500383773why are you incapable of understanding that there are things people like about characters outside of how good they are. god i fucking hate retards like you so much, you cannot see past the numbers.
>>500383892You niggas werent complaining when the changed TK bomber from half circle to dp and it made bomber loops like twice easier.Ive learng Tk bomber loops with Dp for years for it to become a fucking baby 236 input.
>>500383875She already froze you with an H spike and there are two (2) fish coming to chomp your frostbitten dick right off before you can even say MISTO-
give me the qrd on baiken would this mean she's not bottom 2 anymore?
>>500383841I think the idea was to have ways to force the enemy to guess right in order to get out and be able to punish reactive defense in combination with a faster Rin, instead of being able to option select all the options if you have a good standing jab like Goldlewis. Kinda like a more retarded version of Elphelt rekka reset. How will it play in practice depends a lot on the frame gap between charged-uncharged fuujin and 2 charged fuujins and at which part the different visual indicator shows up
>>500384384We don't know how fast the new rin is now and it's still gonna be - as fuck so I am really not sure it'll actually help with anything
It's cool Baiken has her "guard cancel" back. but it's kind of annoying how it's a Frankenstein of hiiragi, a dash cancel and a guard crush. Just add azami and suzuran properly. I know it's the same functionally but it just looks lazy.
>>500384170There is a clear distinction between saying you enjoy charged inputs and stating that THE CHARACTER IS RUINED THIS PATCH!! when his options became both easier and more practical
>>500384249Cope
>>500381071>>500381407>>500381608>>500381981seethe more, strive sucks, we need to go back to xrd
>>500384457Considering you get no reward from it under any circumstances not even with RC, I really hope its between 15 and 16 frames
Changing ICONIC inputs for flick and heavenly pot buster, inputs that the character has had for over TWENTY YEARS, is the very personification of strive. Just gut, and change, BECAUSE, it’s strive! Oh and fuck skill expression on kara cancels while you’re at it, the only thing that made the character interesting. Great company.
>>500384646this but unironically
>>500384646if im going to an older version of axl im going to +r lil nigga
Why are people so scared of input variance? Learning how to maneuver complex inputs and mastering execution is what makes the game fun. The thrill of whether or not you’re going to land that bad ass combo or possibly drop it is what makes this shit feel alive.
>>500384646you niggas say you wanna go back to xrd yet every time I check that that one schizo mexican's lobby that shit is always empty
>>500384878i was playing in it recently and it was full, it's a public lobby though
>>500384835Wrong
>>500384835>baby first kara>lenient charge input>mastering cOmPlEx InPuTspeak soiver
Potemkin changes are peak StriveRemove executional barrier and just make them part of the specialsAnd he has Blue WA now I guess
>>500384878yea cause im not gonna learn all that shit id rather play something else
>>500384878KEK
>>500384835strive got rid of all that 4 years ago, they are just doubling down.
With the range buff, can pot roundstart potbuster now without kara
>>500385117yeah the point is to give him kara buster without having to input kara buster
>>500384878For me it's +r
Can you faggots stop posting liberal tranny shit on Kapacchino? Thank you
>>500382485aren't pot's best strike combos reliant on KBMF? won't that hurt his borderline ToD potential, one of his nicer features?
>>500384951>Blue WASo now he can counter hit you mid screen, wa, and pot buster you. Or frame trap between h buttons, and cancel the block wa into a point blank garuda. Yay...
>>500385189okay do you know that for sure though? They gave it armor which implies to me that they're making up for something. what if pot buster's overall range is worse to the point where he can't roundstart buster
>every jap post about the patch: hope, joy, excitement>every english post about the patch: derangement, despair and 90% mourning Potemkinlol happy chaos players(me) win again.
>>500385379the armor is only during the active frames, so it's basically worthlessthe patch will go livesomeone will record a webm of round start pot buster(You)s will be had
>>500385420good luck on the hrt
>>500385420HC lost scapegoat though, looks mostly bad for him doesnt it? 2D might be good.
>>500385420>hc not doomposting about scapegoatlmao yeah sure
why won't they just give may her old force break? she already jumps off the dolphin
>>500386305Because 25 meter options were always retarded in Gear and they'd be doubly retarded in Strive where you gain meter comically fast.
What's Baiken's buffs?
>>500386424they were retarded to people that hate fun
>>500385281yeah seriously wtf happenedwhy does every space that becomes more popular have to be filled with tranny faggots, god damn get offline i hate you people
>>500386424not as a 25 meter option. just change how cancel works so the dolphin stays out after you cancel it they're basically half way done.
>>500380003HOLY FUACK BEDSISSIES WE WON
RAMRETARDS......TvT
it took them 4 years to nerf 6p recoveryhahahahhahahahahahahahaha
>>500386520No, they were retarded because they weren't fun and meant you never had real reason to use a 50 meter option.>>500386604May does not need to keep herself safer while baiting dolphin lmao
>>500386772>No, they were retarded because they weren't fun and meant you never had real reason to use a 50 meter option.can you please fucking play +r for literally 5 minutes before you spout the most retarded bullshit imaginable
>>500386802i shan't be doing that
>>500386772>you never had real reason to use a 50 meter option.??? even with how strong yrc is lots of characters depend on rrc to do a lot of combos, gunflame yrc is powerful but sol needs 50% meter to confirm into midscreen damage and corner carry from bandit revolver, what youre saying is just factually untrue.
>>500386886also one of sols powerful low confirms in the corner is 2d > tyrant rave lmao
>>500386802He's a retarded BUT there's like 3-4 characters where this is true. No reason ever to not keep the meter specifically for the EX stuff with Millia and Anji in +R for sure.
>>500386971yeah but 3-4 character using meter in their own unique way and not needing rrc is better for the game overall, and i wouldn't even say thats true for anji, he has a fuck ton of useful supers for literally no reason i fucking hate that guy
>>500384147So how the fuck is it downplaying when Baiken's been legitimately shit throughout season 3.5 you retard.
patch looks like shityou faggots aren't actually still playing this god awful, slow, boring snoozefest of a fighting game, right? i mean both tekken 8 and sf6 suck but come on, why subject yourself to this shit
>>500386772>you never had real reason to use a 50 meter optioni remember sajam saying this shit years ago and he was just flat out wrong but people parade what ecelebs say no matter what.
Baikenbros we are so fucking back
>>500387180you gorilla brained niggers can't even comprehend how absolutely carried you are
>>500385420I have a gay friend who lost his virginity to some frat dude and got AIDS. From his first sexual experience.He bought Strive, can you guess the character he fell in love with instantly?Hint: he's blue and looks like a Homestuck character
>Millia nerfed>Anji buffed>Ram buffed>Baiken has a guard cancel nowUninstalled
>>500387430john egbert shouldve been the guest character
>>500387385You'll get out of floor 9 one day bro.
>>500387502I wonder how autistic must one be to be a Homestuck fanI skimmed the wiki on that shit and it looks extremely lame kinda like strive
https://x.com/GUILTYGEAR_PR/status/1851504311768887333I hate it here
>>500387945you have to be very autistic but it is a pretty fun read up to a point, theres a lot of neat ideas and concepts and for it's time the format was very unique, the author went full schizo though.
>>500388019is that a post from guiltygear puerto rico
> I CAN'T DEFEAT BAI-KEN>No matter how hard I try to block her blockstrings I get hit by tiger knee Youzansen >AND EVEN THOUGH I CAN GET >Past her H. Kabari spam they just use parry on defence and I lose all my health again>I 6P HER J.S AS FAST AS I CAN>But the range on her 2h catches me out at half screen and lose the round in the end>I won't learn the MU of course, but this is my plan I'll keep my cope of Baiken being top 5 for as long as I caaaaaan
>>500388045fair enough
>>500386696So is it better or worse than at launch?
>>500372104about fucking time
>increased range on pot buster>added armor on pot busterFUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>500384215I DID complain. I practiced tk bomber for dozens of hours to get it 100% consistent and then just threw away all my hard word to pander to retard exectutionlets.It was one of the only actual difficult parts about Axl that even the biggest haters had to respect, now he's just a joke.
>>500388045Cracks were showing even before act 5. Caliborn was the last hurrah of his old self. Hes become a shell of a man and will likely never create anything of value again
3/4 of my mains got buffed
im really mad heat tackle now has heat knuckle/DP inputbecause i am really shit at this input
>>500389950Both of my mains( Jack-O Bridget) are basically untouched, a bit disappointing considering how bored with season 3 I am. Having to go through another 6+ months playing the exact same way after waiting so long is annoying
>>500390726Well when people were trying to do hammerfall they would accidentally input heat tackle
>johnny got buffed (even if it's mostly an irrelevant change)>bedman got nerfed (completely lost a significant tool)right so what was the argument against patching fighting game balance every month or two again?
PotCHADS how we feeling?
How long until the next patch?
>>50039142624 hours, give or take
>>500391597I mean the one after that
>>500391618Balance patch? Probably spring of next year
so wait did they literally remove dash blocking from leo? how the fuck is he supposed to approach zoners now? by air dashing?
the dizzyanon having a nucleur meltdown because of one fish and doing a complete 180 when two fish is the most wholesome thing this year in ggg
>>500392114just dash 2D like the chimp you are
>>500392114>aba lost dash block>6P nerfed>236K nerfed>literally impossible to get in nowYou have it good my nigga
>>500391313my kara cancels.... take away the fucking armor and the fucking blue wild assault i want mY KARA CANCELS BACK
Sinbros, we were buffed in ways I really couldn't expect. The buffs are so huge, but lets see if the nerfs make him actually reasonable instead of omega cancer AIDS to fight. Stamina was already somewhat tough to manage so I'm worried about how much this stamina nerf gain really limits him. Sin's flaws remain untouched, but a character actually having flaws is a good thing. No matter what it will work out
>>500393902Sneed.. I kneel..
>>500391313Cute and valid! Watching bochi with the sisters while we wait for the patch!
>>500355807No laser fish, only homing blue fish
i guess you just have to pocket main ABA now even harder against zoners? they didn't touch JR
>>500394878So unloyal. She was never your main if drop her after one balance change.
>>500377707The strivers did NOT like this!
>my parry super prc bug report made it into the patch
>>500395130I'm a baiken main and I thought they patched that out ages ago
I'm glad they changed Test Case 2's mana and import cards because they were complete shit, but I'll miss putting on auto-regen and barely taking any damage even through a full combo as I teeter on the edge of losing my shield.
>faggots are suprised they remove any resemblance of execution They did that before many times already. You faggots forgot how they smoked Axl bomber and happy faggot for example? Strives direction is making things easier,more approachable and more braindead so they double down on that direction because its successful. Negroes thinking they will make this game more complex with patches were always smoking cock in lalaland.
>>500380003I like how you can draw a line at around Dizzy/Testament and immediately know a whole chunk of the roster who aren't worth your time with one or maybe two exceptions.
>>500395750I can't wait until we have autocombo pilebunker loops
The health changes are easily the biggest part of the changes for characters. I honestly think that Potemkin might be top 5 material just because he takes an eternity to kill. He has nearly mana shield Asuka health
Potemkin is top 1 this patch.
>>500391313I have mixed feelings about it desuSure, some of the stuff they're adding is nice, like armor on potbuster and garuda being a projectile. But on the other hand, getting rid of Kara cancels just feels wrong. I've never liked doing them, but I understood why people like doing those. And especially I understand that they act as some sort of entry barrier in order for pot to not be too braindead. Also, changing inputs for HPB, Heat tackle and FDB is gonna kill all of my muscle memory for pot.Ehh, I dunno. I guess I just have to see it in action in order to judge things.Blue wild assault for pot is kewl, I guess. Will be useful for pressuring
>>500395793Its genuinely pretty fucking funny seeing faggots screaming about that stuff. They supported that direction for years and then wonder why thing are the way they are and why they double down on that. This is why next ArcSys game will be turbo trash and next GG wont have motions at all 10000000%.
>>500377025Its been over a year nigga. This patch also took over a year to cook...and this is what they shit out. Literal feces in software form.
>>500379716Ram is one of the most boring characters in the game by far, if anything they didn't re-work her enough.
>>500395985>next GG wont have motions at all 10000000%.Nah, the current trend in Japanese fg development is trying to pander to both boomers and zoomers and ending up with a schizophrenic product that pleases no-one. Next GG will have both motion and simple inputs, with some small benefit to using the motion input, forcing you to learn 2 different inputs for every special if you want to be optimal.
>>500377707>it's ok if it's in a fantasy world with magic!!!>happens in a fantasy world with magic>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>500380376Fuck you, kara-let. You cursed us
>>500396487Continue to cope just like you did with patches after day 1 of Strive.
Love to see Potemkinniggers humbled.
>>500396797I'm not coping, I think having only one input type is much superior (even if it is simple inputs only) to these half-assed abominations we have recently been getting, but that's the current trend and I doubt it will change by the time Strive 2 rolls around.
Usually games get more complex with updates, but Strive somehow manages to do the opposite.
>>500397030He got net buffed. Just more boring and easier which will make you seethe more too
>nerf Bedman?s guard crush durationokay it was kinda braindead and goes against his design since his HKD routes got buffe->full charge alsoOh come on.
Gimmick characters like Faust and Bedman should not exist period or should be, at very best, intentionally awful
>>500397765236[H] was fine as is, you all-rounder cockguzzler
>potniggers ITT pretending as if they actually *liked* doing kara cancelslmfao when you had it all you retards did was complain about it
>>500397931>everyone is one personmentally stunted?
Test Case 2GAWDS... is it our time?
>>500398215>being purposefully ignorant and taking things literally are you?
potemkin status?
>hand of doom buffed >k mappa untouched >teleport untouched >pilebunker buffed better luck next time, sisters
>>500398512name a single test case 2 main
>>500380130>kara-cancels somehow made him a non-standard grappler gorillaWhat did anon mean by this?
>>500398615Have to wait and see HFB frame data
>>500398692Komekome
>>500398691>twitter complains non-stop about Johnny and Slayer, especially Slayer>do nothing to themgeniunely hilarious
>bedman NERFEDWHAT THE FUCKWHAT THE FUUUUUUCKNOBODY PLAYED HIMHIS MATCH UP CHART WAS BADJUST WHY JUST FUCKING WHYYYYYY
>>500398558>purposefullyesl-kun…
wow they really didnt like potemkin needing execution huh
they wrote Quran 2 explaining Pot changes
>>500399132He got 4th at Arcrevo Japan and jS gives him HKD routes. He is supposed to be gimped so he’s more satisfying to win with
God fucking awful patch. Just completely gut everything that made characters unique in favor of more damage and more guard crush. Strive will go down as one of the worst fighting games of all time for its destructive influence on fighting games as a whole.
>scapegoat no longer tanks a hitwhats the fucking point?
not my problem, next time create your own IP
>>500399227Miyauchi probably saw a v-tuber getting filtered and forced Katano’s hand
>>500399158there is a difference between purposely and purposefully. I used the correct form. dunning kruger moment lol retard
>>500399357he's a broken bed covered in straps how much more of a fucking gimp does he need to be
>>500399580purposefully is not a synonym of intentionally
>>500399580Based retard
wow they almost remembered what Baiken parry was supposed to be
>>500399449He didn't need it.
>>500399449I thinks its only if he’s infront of it
Why did they put Testament in the game again?
what does the HC 5D change mean?
>>500400060easier to combo from
They should have gave Johnny bwa too.
>>500398802You could use kBMF as a neutral option but maybe he was implying that shit like kara garuda added more nuance to his pressure than the average grappler
>>500400003I'll only be satisfied once they remove damage scaling
I haven't played Strive in years what the fuck do you mean Pot's karas are gone.
>>500400437kara was too hard to do for grappler mains
>>500400437yeah, Chipp mains were unsatisfied with the fact that pot has this many range
>>500400437non grappler sissies wanted to pick him up
>removing Pots karasand just like that, i'm done. removing the game from my account and requesting (however futile) a refund from steam.
>zaturds can no longer tardmash 6p, they have to press it with proper timing like everyone else nowshame about the rest of it
a return to form
>>500400618Nigga he had the worst (excluding airborne ch) 6P reward in the game. Why are you crying about his 6P
>>500400580>>removing Pots karasyou cant be serious
>>500400736
>>500400805Is it even a nerf though? The problem is that Strive is just even more babified now.
Baiken looks omega aids to fight against
>>500399132don't be miserable just yetall you really lost was an RRC route that enabled good pressure but was always dodgy against FDthere are other ways to buy pressurebomb error could be good, for instance after wallbreak hkd it could be a meatyif it travels much farther than it does now it could have actual value in neutralinstall on block could be goodyou now have the highest defense modifier after asuka with mana
>>500400813>>500400819
>Nago 2H no longer special cancellableIsn’t that pretty huge?
>>500400871so....Baiken
>>500397931it was another thing I could perfect, execution barriers are fun.the thought process of "man, should I risk going for a kara buster here or just play it safe for a better chance on normal buster, if I fuck the input I lose the round but if I get it off it's a round winner" is now entirely gone.you paint huffing shitter.
>>500400871as bedman I can no longer use>2H>jH>spin RCagainst her. the matchup just went to hell.
>”we don’t want setplay in strive”>turn baiken into the ultimate degenerate 50/50 slot machine characterWhat’s the thinking here?
214P 214P 214P 214P 214P 214P214P 214P 214P 214P 214P 214PGET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED
>>500401184she was better at enforcing 50/50 casino mixups 2 patches ago
>hc still not gutted into irrelevancemickey mouse game
For all the pot mains dooming about kara cancels:How do I play vs your character? I'm pretty mediocre but feel like I'm walled out really hard by your big poke buttons, get caught by a stray slide head or mistrade against hammer fall, and then just lose etcElphelt btw
>>500401230P2 enjoyer
Isn't there a mission based on karas? Are they going to get rid of it?
>>500400985I wonder if its minus enough to grab after blocking it. That sounds so gay
>>500401639Yeah
>>500401639Yes. Strivers cant do that. Please understand.
>>500401738literally all of sol's highest damage routes involve kara canceling so
Fafnir doesn't guard crush...minus on block...
I can finally play neutral against May’s far slash and 2S
I wonder how much recovery they added to Sin's followupsThat's what I'm worried about the most
leo changes look kind of boring but it's hard to tell from just the notes
>>500388538idk bro i didnt touch this game at launch
>>500402080the changes are shit and piss. he'll still play the same just will feel worse in general. didn't even give us the new move yet....
So FAB is streaming reading the patch notes. Is he crying or what?
so aba got reduced to just doing 2p 2p key and losing if thats not possible
>>500402221you can hear him sobbing and loading a gun
>>500402286and that's a good thing
>>500401873>minus on blockno lol, it's going to be plus but without guard crush like it normally is, same with gio's equivalent
>>500402319Haha funny.
>Nagoriyuki's potent mixup has been toned down>beyblade untouched and overhead is only slightly worse on normal hit>punish for going full retard on mixup decreasedWhat did they mean by this?
>the undisputable top tiers like HC literally never ever get more than a slap on the wrist followed by big buffs>mid tiers always get massive nerfs out of nowhere for no fucking reasonWhat causes these clown ass balance changes? the top tiers of strive have virtually been the same for years.
>>500402406this is just how arcsys patching has always been according to people that have been around since xrd. They'll buff or not touch characters that are unanimously considered oppressive to the detriment of the game's scene but they'll randomly gut bottom tier pot or make a gimmicky but interesting character suddenly complete trash
Damn you guy are cry babies.
>>500402382
>>500402639no i'm not
good evening Katano
>>500397030You know this is the best hes been since the beta, right?
yeah I’m thinking he won
>>500402652oh well that's just insane
>>500401324Leffen will still complain
Cool patch I look forward to playing it
>>500402894Sol's changes in general are dogshit hes going to be a lot more linear so people who said he will finally play strive are right.
>kuso patchif only
So how much does unscaled HMC do? Am I going to get ranodmly jumpscared for half my health like Slayers 100% OD.
This patch to Strive is what Strive was to xrd
>>500402080zoners buffed and he can't dashblock properly anymore so he'll probably just hard(er) lose those MU now
>fuck it Axl isn't a charge character anymoreWhat a crazy change
Potniggers lostThey were BLABBERING since release about how hard their character was just because they had to do karas. They were so oh so proud of themselves because they could press K and then PNow they have nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Their delusions of skill GONE.All they have left is their baby tier character and a broken ego
>>500401873>>500402652unironically might be one of the worst patches I have seen in any video game ever and i've played OW since launch.genuine 9/11 patch.
i have a genuine question about sin from xrd. does anyone elses hands hurt after doing hawk baker even once in a combo?
next GG will only have qc motions
>>500403351Please doomer at least play it first
>>500403403nope
>>500403146>They Strived StriveImpressive
>>500403403Hawk TUAH
>>500403320You’re still gonna lose to him anyway, sis.
>>500403351sol will finally just like everyone else be normal->special->special 5 hit combo strive character lol.
With his guts reduced Nago is going to melt when high blood and low health
>>500403414No, fuck you and fuck Daisuke.i'm gonna go pick up FighterZ again.
>>500402956like HOW fast are we talking here? because fafnir's whole thing was kinda that it had good reward on hit or block but it was so slow and easy to stuff that it's plain dogshit in neutral. Sol has basically zero reason to risk getting punched or being minus in the enemy's face when he has, as always, good dashblocking and f.s to initiate extremely skewed pressure if they actually did just make all of his approach options other than f.s negative/punishable and gave him better conversions to compensate that's pretty disappointing
Imagine this but now with armor
Sol players are always such whiny bitches jesus christ. Every fucking patch.
>>500403680>gave him better conversionsThey didnt in fact they smoked those. jd smoked,5k smoked so some pickups wont be possible anymore and more. sol finally plays strive anon.>>500403797im not a solfag tho that gay ass character should get nerfed long time ago
>>500402573This patch is especially blackpilling. It's turbo disheartening when Slayer gets a slap on the wrist, Johnny doesn't even get touched, and then shit-tier characters like Millia, Zato, and Faust get consolation buffs and massive nerfs to their character defining moves.
>caring this much about muh balance in a kusoge like striveI shiggy diggy
>>500403859pickups and JD are probably still fine you're talking out of your ass
>>500403859>when far from the cornerIt seems they just tried to nerf him converting anything into j.d wallbounce even when far>5k pickupsNot many of them actually relied on it being 3f. Just being jump cancelled. Most of those routes were babbymode anyway, as you'd try to get the c.sYou dumb retards should try playing the patch first before sobbing into your cereal.
>>500403797He keeps getting more linear my man, nobody is playing Sol because they want to play a one-note character. We're talking speculation anyway nobody's dooming yet
>>500404243>nobody is playing Sol because they want to play a one-note characterYeah, they play him because they want to play a broken piece of shit
>>500386696ayoooo daisuke relax
>>500404243Bro Sol players were most happy when the characters entire gameplan was to press f.s. Don't give me this meaningless "linear" term when what you really want is to deal 70% damage by furiously mashing slash.
>>500404304nigga nerf his damage to bridget tier or even lower but give me routing. nerf 5k whatever. give me combos dont take them away. nerf hdp damage whatever. they actually strivefy characters through patching somehow thats insane
>>500404462>they actually strivefy characters in striveDamn bro that's crazy
>>500384215there were posts here complaining about it when it happened but no one plays axl so it only lasted for one thread, really hate that they did that i know how potfags feel
>>500403970Doesn’t HVV instantly wallstick now?
>>500404561Yeah.
>>500404462You don't fucking know what has been taken away. "more challenging" is not the same as "gone".
I told you retards to play Xrd or +r instead but no, you'll just keep eating this slop up while constantly crying about it
Just clean hit fafnir :)
What's the purpose of this now? Just DEI points?
>>500404684We don't play that crap here.
>>500404710>DEIpost thrown into the trash.
>they actually hard cherrypicked most interesting changes for trailerdidnt expected that from arcsys it seems their marketing team finally found missing braincells
I dont get itSo you want nerfs and a more balanced gameBut as long as your s++ hypergodtier doesn't get touched?How can you look at top tiers like leo, sol, ram, may, pot and johnny (who have been dominating the game since release) and not feel like they need a nerfUnless...You dont like your character, you like being strongIn that case your argument still falls flat because you can just play the newest strong characterOr asuka, but oh wait you want to play the strongest easiest character
>>500404861>How can you look at top tiers like leo, sol, ram, may, pot and johnny (who have been dominating the game since release)>pot
>>500404439>Bro Sol players were most happy when the characters entire gameplan was to press f.s.except aside from like, day one, this has only gotten more true over time. they repeat the sentiment in this patch, Sol is "supposed to be a character that excels in close range pressure." they've methodically nerfed all of his midrange options more and more over time, the only time this wasn't true was S3 solely because of wild assault. >6H as a good whiff punishded>god button/launcher CH 6Sded>every single one of his movement options/neutral skips this patchtba, but it's hard to see negative fafnir being good unless it's lightning fast
This Baiken change is fucking nuts. Are they quite sure about this one? I can already think of a bunch of ways this will break oki against her
What's the purpose of this now? Just Daisuke getting more easy money?
johnnyfags should die...you don't have fun, ur opponent don't have fun
>>500405000yeah, that never happened before
>>500405012It’s just an universal 6P whiff punish nerf in exchange for meterless throw combos. Chill
>>500404861No, I unironically want everyone to be borderline broken for maximum animekuso. Buff everyone to launch Sol or HC levels and I'll be happy
>>500404992I truly don't care Solbro. If your character is nerfed to launch Ky tier then maybe you'll finally figure out the tiniest shred of humility.
>>500404992doesn’t 6H still have the same speed, range and HKD?
>>500405156do you think i haven't played non-functional characters in games? you're the one with the seething victim complex, I just want to play a fun character, I don't particularly care about winning
>>500405000keep your strings tight, bucko
strive has no combo game at this point lmfao. they keep taking away more and more from already barebones system. normal->special->special 4 hit slomo "combo" meme is more true than ever.
>>500393902I want to see how abusable this new guard crush will be. f.S having more recovery is ass, but maybe it's not so bad. I'm also worried about his stamina gain, but thank god Still Growing didn't get any meaningful changes. Would be a shame if it was actually useful. I was expecting he stamina nerf after I saw the trailer but was praying to Daisuke that Eat would replenish it.
>>500405386>keep your strings tightit's a GUARD CANCEL. this is irrelevant
tourists seem extra desperate today
i want to play but they changed my inputs so it would just make things worse when the patch drops
>>5004052456H has speed, range and HKD, but first they removed conversion on counterhit (fair enough honestly until WA brought it back) and then they jacked its recovery so hard that his oki for landing it is borderline nonexistent. Up until S3 it was a very niche button
>>500405502Rich from someone posting twitter filename.
>>500405695That's a fanbox filename ACTUALLY.
>>500405502>caring about your main’s patch notes is tourism dumb gooner
>ACTUALLY.
>>500405456>meterless guard cancel>more active frames on the parry>buffed S-kabari>buffed youzansenWe're so back baikenbros!
is back megafisto dead?
why baiken strive design has 0 change?her tits should've been bigger
If they'd have also nerfed Johnny, Slayer, Asuka and HC this patch would be great. I'll take the May nerfs and potential Sol nerfs at least.
>>500406275She's got thicker legs and a much better hair color.
We need robo dizzy.Give robo ky a wife!
>>500406491Robo Ky already has a husband
>>500406292The mana card nerf is pretty big
>>500406582I wanted a nerf to his fag enabler move, 2d
>>500405502The amount of non-players I've seen elsewhere crying over kara pot buster is absurd.This patch's ability to excite everyone who plays the game and trigger retards who don't is unbelievable.
robo ky raped me
>>500406682retard
>>500404992>they've methodically nerfed all of his midrange optionsNigger they're literally buffing the fuck out of his midrange conversion ability to levels not seen since they look launch off of non-CH 6S.
>>500406682I also saw a bunch of /v/tards complaining that kbmf was gone. Like a lot of them. An extremely difficult input I've only ever seen a handful of Pot players do. Yet somehow all the pro pot players had gathered in a singular /v/ thread. Really makes you think.
>>500406626It already has an extended hurtbox and the CH reward is fine. You hate having to jump?
>>500406836Nigger it's not that hard.It was literally just plinking two buttons. Trivial on arcade. Kind of a check for padfags but what isn't?
>>500406836this nigga actually fell for pot propaganda
>>500406860But he wants you to jump. The threat of 2d is as bad as getting hit by 2d, or worse blocking 2d. This isn't even touching its use in blockstrings.
>>500406860The 2D is the reason a good Asuka has infinite block string pressure.
>>500406905>>500407053Aight man while the patch isn't live post your kbmf loops
>>500406807I mean, the stated goal of the changes was to reel in his midrange capability while boosting reward at closer distances. We'll see if converting 6S into vortex is super spacing dependent or not and if it makes up for the nerfs to his neutral skips
>pile bunker>increased damage
new thread>>500407475>>500407475>>500407475
>>500401493I play Elphelt. Against Pot, dash f.S is good, and your 5H, though slow, is usable when spaced for big CHes. You just have to IAD Slidehead, or if you're woke 214H OR rekka. Either run up throw or block and punish Hammerfall. When pressuring Pot, to avoid him doing back mega fist, use 6H.
Karas are a stupid mechanic anyway
>>500404710The only problem with Testament is that he was ever added to the game in the first place. The less time they spend on this faggot ass character the better. Any resources spent on Testament would be better spent elsewhere.
>>500407096Asuka does not want you to jump.
>>500407247*crickets*
>>500405451I'm going to assume the stamina gain nerf is gonna be pretty substantial and that the followups are gonna be really plus and rewarding. Sin is gonna be able to do some crazy conversions in the corner with just one stamina and midscreen will be able to convert anything so long as he has 2. Kara super is gonna be obsolete at this point tho. Perhaps useful in certain situations, but it using stamina is just not gonna be worth it. It'll most likely be better to just go straight into super from buttons rather than getting that little bit of extra damage from doing a special before. This change is easily gonna change the way Sin interacts with everything now since his neutral has gotten even worse, but his reward is even better. That's on top of having to be way more choosey about when to go for stuff since he's gonna be really hungry for stamina. f.S with more recovery and 2S with more startup does suck hard, but I can certainly understand how a character with this much on paper reward shouldn't be able to access it along with decent neutral. I was thinking gazelle step might actually be a good tool since I think it may low profile now, but it using a stamina makes it something that I may only use in combos
What is the exact time the patch goes live?
>>500406292HC isn't even top 10 though?
