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14 days until The Great Cryboomering
old 'niller thread >>500189528
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>>500369668
This sounds completely awful. The elitist min/max culture of WoW doesn't need this. The SoD numbers aren't amazing as is and I expect this to be a complete disaster having people quit like crazy. The raids are over a month away so maybe they will rethink this terrible idea.
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>>500369927
Imagine the rage bans
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>>500369927
Ah yes, can't wait to spend 90% of the time forming groups because everyone wants only the most metaslave pumper comps even if they are too shit to execute them. This is just m+ in classic kek
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What is your reason for continuing to logon SoD?
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>>500370497
if i stop logging in, retail wins...
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>>500370497
Playing a __rogue__ is fun
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>AQ40 and the new dragon raid drop on dec 6th
>Poe2 beta got delayed to dec 6th
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>>500369668
>all that disney bloat
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>>500370497
>he logged on at all
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>mom making me get a job by the end of the year
they need to release fresh FAST
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>>500374125
Move out then nigga 18+ website btw
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>>500374125
Just tell her you're a professional son.
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>>500374125
tell her once last rank and you'll get a j*b
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>>500374125
just work for a week and quit. mom wont be mad because at least youre trying
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https://youtu.be/Jgmf6P12dpo
https://youtu.be/Jgmf6P12dpo
https://youtu.be/Jgmf6P12dpo
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>>500379549
TBC is retail. Literally no difference.
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>>500379549
why is his voice like that
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>50038191X
lil bro here still forcing this meme for 3 years
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TBC HYPE
TBC HYPE
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TBC HYPE! (but only after it because consensus on reddit because that's where I get all my ideas)
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>we are going back to private servers!

translation: i don't even know how to change the realmlist and i would never leave my favorite streamer but if pretend blizzard has competition maybe they will finally fix the game
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not going to back to private servers until they get the better client
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FASHY VND FRESHY!
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blizzards cooking
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>>500391271
r*dditors were BEGGING for wrath the second tbbc launched though, it has almost zero organic support and Blizzard knows it.
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tbc chuds won
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buy an ad az*mongolus
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lol
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sod phase 1 was enjoyable ish, kinda zoned out after lvl 25 though
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my orc hunter is ready, I will roll on hc fresh and camp flagged ally retards in swamp of sorrows
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>>500396948
why swamp of sorrows specifically
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compromise between FASHVNILLA AVRYANS and tbbc toddlers: we will add fem draenei to Vanilla and leave out everything else.
I think it's a fair deal.
Thoughts?
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>>500397645
>camp flagged ally retards in swamp of sorrows
there's an npc that flags you if you get attacked iirc, a guard maybe. Probably broken but they dont fix it
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>>500397645
>>500397730
>>500396948
>DANIEB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NutbssNK0jw
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>>500397645
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=861/stonard-scout
ally players kill scouts and get flagged
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>>500397730
they fixed that long ago though
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>>500397853
they did not
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compromise between tbcchads and vanilla subhumans: we will remove all boss mechanics except tail swipe and cleave and keep everything else.
I think it's a fair deal.
Thoughts?
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>>500397730
>>500397835
>>500397845
kek thats a great idea
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my main's death in hc, low 40s, was due to that zombie summoning troll in stv
a pala was fighting him and bubbled and then he aggroed to me, seemingly for no reason. I suspect I walked past a totem and entered the threat table
bit of a piss take but i laughed it off, had a good run
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A better compromise by TBChads and vanillasissies is a TBC pre-patch vanilla only server. Still, TBC raids > vanilla raids and I'm tired of shitters because they're the ones saying TBC raids aren't enjoyable due to having too many (more than one) mechanics.
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>>500407389
>TBC pre-patch vanilla only server
Turning easy content into even easier content, sounds pretty boring anon.
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>>500407389
just play retail if you like toilet crusade so much
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>>500407389
tbc will never happen again outside of doa pservers played by the few hundred utter retards brain damaged enough to think TBC is somehow good.
I can for sure say everything wrong with WoW started with TBC. Classic in itself was the perfect game, the content island like Outland Northrend and shit killed the game.
If TBC was good anybody would still play it nobody plays TBC though. I’m just glad vanilla is universally agreed as the best game.
Vanilla was the only time the game was good. Everything after it was a slowing of growth and utter stagnation leading to decline. The only reason tbc and wotlk are seen as positive is because of the momentum from Vanilla lasting into their timelines. Those expansions did nothing to grow the game on their own.
TBC sucked dick, and every single expansion beyond it just copy/pasted tiny variations of the same shit, over and over. Once factions shared a city it was over. Blizzard knew they could do half the work for the same engagement/sub numbers and mailed everything in. It's also when the leadership at the company took a backseat and started counting money and letting the interns run the show and turn the wrenches.
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How exactly will this work, you think?
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>>500410916
>SoD turning eveb more into retail with each phase
>classic already became retail with cata
>hardcore and era dead
He won
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>>500410916
It was poorly worded, you will not lose loot.
t. friends with a streamer who is friends with Aggrend/ArtemisHowl.
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sod phase 1 was kino
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>>500412464
Should have been a lvl 30 cap and then 60. Would have been perfect.
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>>500369668
How come Shaman feel so shit to play? I feel no satisfaction when I play mine
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https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/battle-net-client-beta-update-pick-classic-version-from-client-349407
Maybe they will fix top row as well, so you can favorite the right classic variants?
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>fresh reconfirmed
why are they just leaving SoD out to dry?
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they should add classic servers where all your abilities must be clicked. it would make for a fun challenge for normal people while putting them on the same playing field as cryboomers
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So is it true? Are we seriously getting F R E S H classic servers on EU/US? Or is this bullshit and it's just going to be China? I just want a new fresh to level my WC3 race/class combo kino character, bros... Also, RP in classic when?
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>>500419209
aggrend ate the code again
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>>fresh reconfirmed
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The animes are considering fresh, stay tuned...
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let blud cook
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'niller cryboomer
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STOP SAYING THOSE WORDS
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nillers make up 13% of the posters but commit 52% of the crybooming.
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>combust is up
>get a 16k fireball crit
>spam fireball with the hotstreak procs
>the ignite shrinks

Why does this happen? What am i doing wrong?
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>>500424185
>What am i doing wrong?
Playing a mage
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>>500369927
Every time I think of switching to SoD they do something retarded like this
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do we have new pics of javels gym brapper yet
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>cryboom salvdali is running around epl reporting bots seething about the game

lmfao
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nilla' fire mage is pretty fun. If anyone is legitimately curious as to why and wants a genuine conversation, feel free to ask. I'm currently a top 10 era fire mage.
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>>500425023
>combustion
>fireball
>fireball
>pyroblast
>fireball
>fireball
>pyroblast
>fireball
>scorch
>fireball
>fireball
>pyroblast
>fireball
>fireball
>pyroblast
>fireball
>scorch
le ebin top 10 spec
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>>500424941
he'll spend hours griefing bots like hes a hall monitor
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>>500425194
Anon, you let ignite drop like 4 times there.
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>>500425323
nope the other fire mage slaves kept it up for me
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Alex is joining my DD guild for Fresh
>kill me
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Now that fresh is confirmed, will this keep 'nillers in check at last? or scream and beg for another one after 3 months?
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Man remember back in original classic when everyone had 20k gold, full bis, epic mounts, every crafting recipe, and did 10 million dps? I wish we could go back.
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>>500426819
13 year old me got nudes from a 35 year old woman. TAKE ME BACK.
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>>500424185
Please someone answer this
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>>500426819
>man remember being a clueless kid? i wish i could feel that way again, maaan i wish we could go back
manchild moment
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>>500424185
What game mode?
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>>500426972
>clueless kid
There were grown ass men running around with zero clue what to do
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>>500426807
20 years from here you'll still be seething about how popular vanilla is. And we will still roll on every freshie!
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>>500427204
and now they're bigger grown ups with more important things to do
meanwhile you're stuck in the same space for 20 years
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>>500427226
>seething about how 'nillers cry, screech and fume when they don't get what they want every 3 months
i'm so jealous
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>>500427329
Or, here me out, I still want all of those things in the game but blizzard needs to make them significantly harder to obtain so there's actually prestige and value to a given classic character that is progressed.
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>UH YOU CANT JUST PLAY A HUMAN IN AN RPG BECAUSE THATS BORING DUE TO YOUR REAL LIFE RACE BEING HUMAN THIS IS A CONCERNING FACTOR
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>>500427671
so you want them to kill the game, got it
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>>500427726
Funny how that gets a fast 180 if you decide to play as a female girl woman character because that's not what you are irl
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The WoW token will be in fresh, even vanilla and TBC
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lol
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>>500428484
and thats's a good thing!
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>>500422369
I will seethe forever over that time he teleported a hardcore griefer into the sky to "punish" them
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>>500427865
>making things harder to obtain and therefore more valuable is ruining the game
>>500417035
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>'toilet
>hard
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that was the point retard thanks for outing yourself as brown
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>instant indirect seethe
H
MOLY
L
Y
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Ulduar is still the best raid from the Original Trilogyâ„¢
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>>500431048
it was mid
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>>500428397
UM I DONT WANT TO STARE AT A MANS ASS OKAY
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>>500430075
>xhe thinks wow boomers love things when are hard and tried a gotcha with retail wow
based larping tourist
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepM

IT'S UP
IT'S UP
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>>500433506
middle eastern hands wrote this post
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Fresh? Fresh.
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>>500435312
convince me to play rogue this time anon I always want to but end up settling on warrior cause it feels like I'm just losing at character creation
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>>500435408
I'm not gonna convince you, just play what you find fun :3
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>>500434269
>unsolicited politics
im sorry you're in endless misery, anon
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>>500436558
what if having fun to me is absolutely dumpstering people in raids on parses but I stop having fun when I have to walk out of the raid and go back to being a solo warrior, miserable in the open world
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>>500435408
The absolute state of browns.. do you play with helmet display on or off btw I'm making some notes on shitskins
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>>500434024
seriously kill yourself
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>>500427109
Cata classic fire mage

Theres no info on why my ignites are shrinking on crits
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>>500434024
>its so funny how they announce this as if we haven't done this a million times
the irony of this statement lmfao holy shit
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yeah im brown
better
rogue
ong
when
nilla
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Classes for this feel?

I already casted my vote for Harris btw
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>>500438418
If you crit at lets say 2 seconds into the fight for 40K, you'll have a 10K ignite for 4 secs. It'll tick twice at 4 and 6.
If you crit again at 4 seconds into the fight with another 40K fireball, you'll have a 20K ignite for 2 secs. The last tick should be 10K because the first fireballs ignite already ticked twice.
That's how it was explained to me. They made combust eat all ignites and that now includes instant pyroblast crits.
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Least addicted junkie
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>>500438840
that's not really relevant to wow discussion but based
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>>500439067
Whats happening is im getting crits, and theyre not growing the ignite, but shrinking it for some reason
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>>500437124
Good geared warrior with fap beats most classes I think
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>>500434024
unless its alex nobody fucking cares about any video posted here
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>>500439275
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>>500441837
That's a nice Alexander-esque looking house
is that in Gregory?
It looks Plain nice
Definitely Unique Isolated
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>insta deleted
Sup al*x, didn't know you were a janny. No surprise there desu
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World of Warcraft classic fresh hype
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>>500442897
KEK
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>>500442897
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>>500426894
>13 year old me got nudes from a 35 year old woman. TAKE ME BACK.
Green text story that shit.
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>>500443784
She was a massive attentionwhore, not really much else to say about it. She did have a pretty nice ass.
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>>500434024
Is there at least rank 14 now or is there no reason to resub?
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FRESH CHADS WE'RE WINNING
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>>500446108
FRESH needs not christcucks
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shitty bugged quest. wow definitely made up of pajeets
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inshallah amigos who's ready to sell some gold
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>>500446108
only Anime and God can save Classic now
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>>500446496
wrong general, tranny
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>>500446979
>classic baby trying to call someone tranny

kek
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>fashy and freshy!!
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>>500444054
You could go in details a bit ie. you finding out she is really a female, not a guy pretending to be a female for free gold handouts, how you roped her for nudes etc.
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>>500447173
go back to /b/ freak
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praying for FASHY
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>1fmd5
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>>500448273
I bet her butthole is brown because she's an anal slut
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god i want mop so badly so i can spend all day doing challenge dungeons
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too bad to do m+ in retail?
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not a fan of disney bloat and timegates and fomo and chores
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yet you want to play expansion that had all of that, curious?
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did it, though?
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yes
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wotlk was the beginning of the end, mop was the beginning of the disneyfication (both were fun expansions though)
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*tbbc
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proof?
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>>500369668
I quit in P3, help me out with some morbid curiosity
>did P4 kill the game harder or are we so fucking back
>is cata fucking over
>is era fucking over
>is hardcore fucking over
>is turtle fucking over
>is HSWoW fucking over
>is 'etail fucking over
>why the fuck did those faggots nerf spriest in pvp REEEEEE I was watching some spriest duel and apparently disperse and vp share a slot fuck blizzard AAAAAAAAAA

thankx
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so is FRESH happening ot not?
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>get a world #4 parsie last night in BoT
>It's only a 98 percentile score
shouldn't it be a 100?
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we're in here

https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
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>>500450485
cute fem troll troonie!
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do we agree with her?
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>lebbit screenshot
yeah im skipping that one
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>>500451629
I wish I was so braindead and easily impressed
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>>500450485
eww what is this bluerage class
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>>500450485
wheres the crybooms?
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>>500449996
all dead
fresh in two weeks or it's over
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>>500449996
>>did P4 kill the game harder or are we so fucking back
p4 at least tried new shit, but there's absolutely nothing new in p5 and 6 lmfao, it's just era at this point with wrath skills
>>is cata fucking over
It's not looking good, and firelands has even less hype than TOGC ever did
>>is era fucking over
Always has been
>>is hardcore fucking over
Same as above, but it's there as a "break in case of emergency" for streamers, which it will be the case in november
>>is turtle fucking over
Was it ever the best option at all? lmao maybe if you're a hopeless junkie
>>is HSWoW fucking over
Who
>>is 'etail fucking over
funny enough is that it hasn't been as atrocious as its previous expansions
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>>500450160
make her 10 years older 1 foot taller and have huge milkers
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>tfw still need to 60 on SoD just to see any new shenanigans

Fug.

If I played Dagger Rouge in the new fresh server that may or may not exist will I actually be able to do raids and shit?

Or should I just go Warlock for a guaranteed spot in lots of shit.
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>>500452640
tww launch was pretty good but theyre starting to flub it
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never played a rogue in classic before, any guides on what the pvp "rotation" is like for stunlocking and such?
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>>500452802
there's no fresh coming, devs are all in on sod
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>never played a rogue in classic before, any guides on what the pvp "rotation" is like for stunlocking and such?
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>>500449996
Hardcore on defias pillager alliance is actually growing again. bumped from low to med pop and 3-4 layers are standard, up from 1-2
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>>500454160
>and 3-4 layers are standard, up from 1-2
what do you get from lying on the internet?
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>>500454036
best rogue gameplay right here

https://www.twitch.tv/konazb
https://www.twitch.tv/konazb
https://www.twitch.tv/konazb
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>>500454152
meant to reply to
>>500454036
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>>500452752
so is FRESH happening or not?
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>>500452218
is it just regular fashyfresh or are there gimmicks? faction queues/layering etc?
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>>500454446
pedophile lmfao
kys
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vote on fresh
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>>500454516
I'm not a pedo though
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>>500454446
>>500454671
i love you jahy
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>>500454671
Based NOT pedo
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Strange
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>look up pvp guides for rogue
>it's just footage of people playing the class, no discussion of what abilities you should use
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>>500455490
it's really not that hard you fucking retard, you stun them and then you stun them again
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>>500455579
never played rogue before lil guy? after your initial stun there's several other abilities you can use. I want to see a discussion of the merits of each
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>>500455815
just play the fucking game
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>>500452802
>dagger rogue
Good choice as most rogues will go for swords, you will have less competition for loot in raids.
>will I
yes, rogues are good in vanilla, you want a bunch of em for raids, also if you really, really want to guarantee a raid spot then just apply to a good guild that gonna form on the server and rush to 60 with them
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>>500455959
>keeps biting
lurk moar
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>>500454036
>>500455490
just hit cheapshot and then freestyle with vanish and preparation
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>Shake Shack x World of Warcraft Collaboration
Every time I open the news for this slop. we need fresh more than ev'
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'niller cryboomer
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xiao
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>>500454309
nice screen bloat
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disney retoilet pixar bloat
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daily 'niller meltie
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fresh wotlk when
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>>500460167
herd dat
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>junkie
>cryboomer
>volumes
>niller
what other words upset vanilla players without fail?
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>>500462150
parsie meltie
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2004 FRESH when
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>>500462150
mazed
addict
streamer game
streamer fodder
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>1 more filtered IP
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>>500369927
Why act surprised that retail devs want to shove retail shit like hard modes that reward better loot into classic? SoD was nicknamed retail minus for a reason
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>>500460167
>fresh wotlk when
retail is available right now for you
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>>500466068
Retail is not an mmo.
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>Incentivize players to metawhore even harder than they already do for better rewards in AQ
Might as well just add M+ proper into SoD while you're at it.
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>>500462150
lady fashj
red circle man
lc
premade
arena
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>>500369927
>cant play sod
>cant play retail (mogsmountscheevos is not playing the game)
>cant era without buying hundreds of dollars worth of gold
does blizzard really expect shitters to just level 1-30 in HC on repeat?
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>>500434024
He's right. It's clear they're abandoning sod and any new content being worked on was shelved.
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>>500468236
Yup. It makes sense too considering amount of people that jumped ship for HC/Era.
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>>500468613
>considering amount of people that jumped ship for HC/Era.
all dozens of them?
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>>500468945
Wym all the streamers jumped ship and then people followed lol. Plus I play Stitches and SW is kinda fucking packed on buff hours.
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>>500462150
retail
the word alone makes them get a pavlonian response irl when they hear that word like retail store or retail price
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After 11 months of Season of Discovery, what were we meant to discover?
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>>500469363
all hundreds of them?
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>>500469552
Maybe Vanilla wasn't as good as we remember..
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>>500469552
how easy it was to grift the classic community
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>>500469552
That you really don't want a classic plus
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>>500469552
Maybe the real discovery was the friends we made along the way.
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>>500469552
The runes ig xD
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>>500469552
classic+ is a pipe dream
give up and embrace fresh
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>sod is almost over
>they never added a scarlet monastery raid or karazan crypts
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>>500470443
herd dat
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>>500470483
Yea, as per usual Blizzard are frauds and hacks and aren't ashamed to lie and deceive their playerbase. Hence why they teased new raids at the reveal of SoD and then left it unrealized.
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>>500470483
sod bled too many players for it to be worth their time doing more custom content.
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ok, so sod lost (bigly)
but WHY did sod lose (bigly)?
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>era: lost
>sod: lost
>'toilet: lost
>Chyna: won (BIGLY)
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>>500470907
It was pretty hubristic to completely alter the gameplay as well. Just the content is one thing.
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>>500470483
>i wanted the same exact dungeon but 10 man instead of 5
'nillers will eat anything up lmfao
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>>500471010
>hype it up as classic+
>it's just SoM with wrath abilities.
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>>500471094
What is classic+ for you?
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>>500471263
DONT FALL FOR THIS RETARD'S BULLSHIT
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>>500471080
Yeah, they went too far by adding retail abilities and shit like the warlock demon form that looks so out of place. I'ma be honest I think most people's idea of classic + is new content as in new zones and shit but of course that's asking too much for nu-blizz.
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if you ask a hundred 'nillers what they want out of classic+ you'll get 101 different answers
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>>500471397
>insta
holy
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What are we rolling on FRESHIE?
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>>500469552
That they really should've went with a more well-rounded expansion like TBC or WoTLK as a base.
Trying to reinvent the wheel by adding in a hundred different retail abilities doesn't really help in creating a fluid and well thought out rotation.
Keeping us hostage in meaningless sub 60 content will kill the game because the target audience (classic players) don't want their progress invalidated every 2 months.
GDKPs while promoting gold buying does nothing except kill any incentive for good, and/or geared players to go back to older raids to help people that still need items.
Revolving an entire raid difficulty level around having an arbitrary resistance threshold is terrible game design, as well as resistance checks in general.
Incentivizing players into doing harder content by dangling a carrot (molten & shadowflame color effects) isn't a terrible idea.

There's a lot more but I don't really wanna type this shit out. Just wait another 6 months and someone will make a video essay about SoD's successes and failures.
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>>500471408
>new content as in new zones and shit but of course that's asking too much for nu-blizz.
So.. cataclysm?
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>>500471669
Nelfie druid
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>no one can agree on what classic plus is supposed to be
it speaks.
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>>500469552
>After 11 months of Season of Discovery, what were we meant to discover?
Your real self
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classic+ failed
its time
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Fresh please. It's all that matters.
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>"I want Classic+! With new races, new zones, better class balance and new abilities, new professions, ect."
>It already exists, it's called Burning Crusade.
>"NOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT"
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Brown retoilets are still mind broken about vanilla, not too surprising I guess but I wonder why they even bother posting here...
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>>500472293
>It already exists, it's called Burning Crusade.
No it doesn't. I can't honor grind for some of the best gear in the game that I can go use in the current raid.
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i want the same exact game, but with completely different changes
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>>500472261
just make your own server nigger. repacks are super easy to download and play.
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>>500472425
if you weren't a tourist, you'd know that the pvp gear sucked in original vanilla and it was always bad until late AQ when no one cared for it
Alas, you got the 2019 version where they didn't care about progressive patches
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>>500472293
That's just burning crusade. Ruins everything actually, outland was a mistake
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>>500472425
>being too shit for arena
>being too shit for tbc arena
lmfao
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>>500472672
>the retailer's refrain
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>add new raids adjacent to naxx in difficulty
>MAYBE minimal QOL changes like giving taunt to pally
That's it. That's all they needed to do and people would have been thrilled.
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>>500472293
love how the mere mention of tbc being what 'nillers ask for classic+ drives them into an uncontrollable anger
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yeah dude
*cyclone*
this is really
*cheap shot*
the peak
*stormherald stun*
of pv- *dies*
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>>500473032
The gameplay is completely different Mr. Troll.
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>>500473268
>same talents with tweaks and new ones for the 10 new levels
>same classes with same abilities and new ones
>new zones as well as finished zones (dustwwallow, plaguelands, badlands)
>"eermmm, my armor looks different!"
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Tell me about the brown people..why do they hate vanilla yet spend all their time here?
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brb bio
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>>500473268
you saying you go from shadow bolt spam to shadowbolt spam? :o
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>browns hate vanilla
uhmm, about that...
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/image/FQxK1-5PuSQACOX14tI-bw/
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>>500474201
>whitest v*nilla enjoyer
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>>500472609
Yeah I'm invited to any MC raid I want in my rank 13 gear, suck a dick.
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>>500474515
>grinding r13 to raid mc
grim
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>>500474201
Curious how it's always the same (1) picture that you repost of your boyfriend for like a year straight now. Maybe you should fly to Poland and marry him
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>>500474615
>to raid mc
I play to rank. Slumming in MC is just for novelty.
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>>500472609
>progressive patches
Removing honor decay and having only blue gear for a while mite b cool
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>>500474686
>I play to rank
grimmer
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>>500474668
>doesn't deny the brown part
lmfao
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>>500474817
Sure, not for everyone. But the point is TBC is not that. So you are BTFO.
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>>500474668
Isn't he from upstate NY
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>>500474915
but you have an arena rank THOUGH?
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>>500474668
>let me tell you why a shitskin is ok when vanilla does it
grim
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>>500474881
That man looks brown sure. Wow you found one, how impressive.
>>500474961
I guess his boyfriend would know the specifics, I don't really know
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>>500475239
>y-yeah its only 1 totally
oh 'nillers are funny when they perform gymnastics
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>>500475390
Is that why you endlessly repost the one kek. You have found the exception to the rule
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>>500475717
You're getting overly defensive over some anon posting someone else's hand
is it you maybe? it's the only explanation
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>>500475807
Meds. But keep on spamming I guess, vanilla will stick around for years while you seethe here
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>>500475956
>m-m-meds
any other generic reply?
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sod makes sense once you realize the goal of it was never to be a beta test for a classic plus, it was meant to acclimate classic players to and turn them into retail players.
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>>500476272
trvke
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>>500476094
>Says "man" spamming the same posts 12 hours a day for a year
Yup yup.
>>500476272
Maybe, season 1 was at least fun as an experiment, been pretty dead since
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>>500476272
Which was never going to happen.
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>>500476603
>for a year
Hmm?
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>>500476272
>>500476639
i hate to admit it but it happened to me. the retail lite-ness of sod made me curious about retail and i must admit there are some things retail does very well, and it's mostly the classes/specs. they feel pretty unique
but that's where it ends, the content itself is fucking awful. everything about the raids, m+ and group content makes me appreciate the simplicity of vanilla loot pinata bosses that dont shit out a billion ground swirlies the moment a fight starts that will one shot you. also, leveling is kino. they should lean into that way more if classic+ is ever a thing, just make the leveling experience take way longer and make it way more involved
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>>500477427
>i hate to admit it but it happened to me. the retail lite-ness of sod made me curious about retail and i must admit there are some things retail does very well, and it's mostly the classes/specs. they feel pretty unique
>but that's where it ends, the content itself is fucking awful. everything about the raids, m+ and group content makes me appreciate the simplicity of vanilla loot pinata bosses that dont shit out a billion ground swirlies the moment a fight starts that will one shot you. also, leveling is kino. they should lean into that way more if classic+ is ever a thing, just make the leveling experience take way longer and make it way more involved
This is spot on
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>>500477427
Yes, it might bring over retail hopefuls, but not the other way around. Which is basically what happened, it got turned into a retail hellscape by retail players.
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>log out at 53 with a full stack of finished incursion quests to fix a UI problem
>they all disappear when I log back in
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make sure to copy paste some funny reddit posts and solo bump the thread at page 9 as usual. I command you to
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>>500478310
no more archiving at 300 posts here friend
now that fresh is here /wowcg/ is POPPING OFF!!!
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>>500478220
its why i reflexively push back against people wanting class """balance""" in vanilla. it doesn't need that shit. look at all the discussion around SoD and 99% of it is people whinging that "x class gets y ability so why can't their class have it too????". you're just turning the game into retail with its hyper fixation on balance that doesn't fit at all into the world of vanilla
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>>500478584
Exactly right, it's an enormous waste of time to even attempt.
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>le classic to retail pipeline
this rerun again?
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FRESH COMETH
the beta launcher now lets you launch into your preferred version of classic from the get go.
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>>500479432
>stop making sense
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>>500479729
Where's fresh?
all i see is
Stale
Streamers
Classic+
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>>500480130
Retail-*
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>>500480130
It means what they have coming would require yet another tab. Like we have seasonal, hardcore, and era now. Adding another would start to get cluttered. So they are adding this drop down to the launcher for the 4th one to be added.
>SFHC
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>>500480130
Then maybe you need some help, it's not healthy to be this obsessed about streamers all the time
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This game is fun
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>>500480225
Can you fly in that gamemode? or play evokers, dks, monks or demon hunters?
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>>500480359
Whenever I see a gnome female, I want to face fuck it. Is this normal?
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>>500480130
>3 insta 'niller cryboomer replies
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>>500480389
That's where the minus comes in, Melvin.
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>>500480416
Yes, that is the normal response
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>>500480616
so because it has some stuff retail uses right now, does that mean vanilla is retail minus? both features mounts and pets...
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>>500480724
>Yes, that is the normal response
Thank you.
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if sod is retail-...
does that make retail classic+?
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kinda funny how 'nillers corner themselves with their own logic
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say something nice about him
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>>500476272
>classic was the beta test for classic plus
>som was the beta test for classic plus
>sod was the beta test for classic plus
>(You are here)
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>>500483598
TBC was classic+ all along.
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>>500483598
>classic was the beta test for classic plus
>som was the beta test for classic plus
>sod was the beta test for classic plus
>classic+
yaay!
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>best iteration of the game that everyone wants was made by """problematic""" dudebros who would sample employee breastmilk
Kek this must make modern blizzard seethe to no end
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Fresh is all there is. Devs can't do classic+ even if they wanted to.
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>>500484176
Everything of any lasting value the western video game industry ever made was made by autistic programmers and idea guy dude bros in the 2000s and now that theyve been ousted it's over for AAA
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era fresh?
#nochanges fresh
dream bigly
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>>500484469
>Everything of any lasting value the western video game industry ever made was made by autistic programmers and idea guy dude bros in the 2000s and now that theyve been ousted it's over for AAA
This is a correct statement.
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Why did you reply to your own post positively?
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niller
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you guys gonna play the monster hunter wilds demo on steam tomorrow?
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>>500494784
never played monster hunter so probably not
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Please... TBC fresh with an era server at the end. I just wanna level a fury warrior, get warglaives and POOMP in SWP BiS.
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you can get warglaives and poomp on retail
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>used to think rogues were hard to play
>turns out you just go hemo and stunlock every class to death besides mages
and your stunlock is only 4 abilities, 5 including eviscerate at the end to finish them off.
you'll use 1 more ability for a mage, 2 more for a warrior
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They should announce the LFG tool for SoD and classic+.
lets be honest guys.....spamming in trade chat is not fun.
I rather have a LFG board in SW and OG
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>>500494784
>monster hunter
This is a WoW thread get the fuck out of here loser.
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>>500502602
s-sorry
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>>500478584
>>500479336
You don't need perfect balance i agree there but...
Classes should at least be viable to play.
Some specs/trees are fucking USELESS in classic.
Stuff being useless/non functional is stupid and you fucks always defend that garbage.
You could literally delete half of the trees and the game would be the same.....that is bad design.
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>>500503535
I like ass raping rank 14s with my useless spec
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>>500503656
Maybe in your delusional dreams.
Make an actual argument or jump off a building.
There are literally things in the talent tree that nobody ever takes. That shit is just undefendable and creates noob traps for no reason.
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>>500503535
>some specs are useless
This is a bit of an exaggeration. I've reliably parsed 99s as ret in a casual guild, the damage put put is similar to a blue parsing rogue. I'm always in the middle of the meters. Fights where warriors do badly, ret does alright, Fights where mages do badly, ret does alright.

It's fucking mid.

But mid is all you need to clear content, its not useless, just not desireable at all.
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1 week mute for ""hate spreech" see ya latr bross
https://youtu.be/761yzGz4HzQ

fuck niggers ^^
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>>500503535
>Classes should at least be viable to play
name a single class in vanilla that isn't viable to play?
>Some specs/trees are fucking USELESS in classic
that's just wrong though. classes are more than their specs in vanilla. they accentuate the inherent strengths of the class and or fill in gaps to add some quality of life. a paladin is still a paladin regardless of where he chooses to spend his talent points. he's still a healer/utility/support class, with his talent choices either giving him a little more oomph offensively or defensively. a warrior is a tank/damage dealer and can allocate talent points to help in say pvp (mortal strike), cleave (sweeping strikes), flurry/bloodthirst (pve dps) or protection for tanking (lol). see where i'm going with this?
>You could literally delete half of the trees and the game would be the same.....that is bad design
see above

stop applying a retail mindset to a version of the game that was never intended to be viewed through. you quite literally have retail for this, or future expansions
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I'm feeling FASHY
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>>500506934
my favotite btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRYokc3VBC4
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>and then he said, "there will be a scarlet monastery and karazhan crypts raid!"
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>hey guys what if we made it so anon NEVER got his fucking upgrade after 2 goddamn phases? he would be FORCED to sub FOREVER!!!
fuck blizzard fuck this game fuck rng. can't unsub hard enough.
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>>500507958
See you tomorrow
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>>500507958
>noooo I need muh looties and dopamine
No you don't, you cleared the content just fine with what ever you had on right now
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>Play SoD Season 1 a fuck ton with friends
>Get like 4 characters runed and geared out in BFD
>Pretty pleased, level 25 lasting a bit too long but whatever
>Take a break for last month
>Come back for Phase 2 with friends
>PvP is absolutely atrocious with the wotlk perk runes
>Gnomeregan is boring as fuck
>Stranglethorn event necked by previously mentioned pvp
>All quit
>Don't even think about SoD until today
>Check out some videos on the current state, check the general
so it seems we made the right call, eh?
how long til they attempt actual classic+ and fuck that up too?
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>>500511667
Yeah phase 1 was the only good one. Ashenvale would actually have been legendary if they were able to balance layer populations. But was still good nonetheless.
>send me a raid invite
that's all that should be required for content in a wow classic season. The only time they got it right.
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>>500511667
i wish they focused more on the RPG aspects of the game instead of the weird obsession the player base has with character power. i genuinely just don't like people's fascination with damage rotations. combat is not supposed to be engaging, it's supposed to be a chore between the actual fun of socializing with people.

star war galaxies is the only mmo that ever got it right, but we were too blind and the corpos were too greedy to realize it at the time
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fresh
no boon
no welfare r14
just pure nilla
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>>500513447
>fresh
>no boon
>no welfare r14
>just pure nilla
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i wish paladin and shaman were pure support classes. chain heal and holy light are instant cast but have cooldowns with other heals being removed. blessings are stronger but dont last nearly as long. totems are fewer and simpler and have significantly less duration and much smaller auras, but are no longer limited to just parties, and can affect raid members on top of being much stronger
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>>500514971
feel like paladin shouldve been a tank class primarily desu
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>>500507127
>name a single class in vanilla that isn't viable to play?
NTA but in a deep tree perspective
>Balance
you run out of mana too fast and you bring nothing to the table, your spells and dots are inefficient in long fights
>Arcane
Same as balance, people never go deep arcane and just mix it up with PoM for pyroblasts
>prot pala
no taunt makes you fully useless lmao. it's just the power leveling spec but that's shouldn't be considered viable because that's not what you're playing the spec for
>Holy priest
all the talents are for shit you'd never do as a healing priest, plus light well being the weirdest end talent that not only people barely use, but that's ineffective in general
>Spriest
again, sub par to any other normal DPS to the point you get under tanks in terms of damage and not bringing anything to the raid

>stop applying a retail mindset to a version of the game that was never intended to be viewed through. you quite literally have retail for this, or future expansions
it's funny you drop the retail boogeyman, but the way every single player builds their talent trees is no different from when retail had those talent points where it was just 3 options every 15 levels and everyone picks the same ones. You see the exact same talent tree build in vanilla in every single class.
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>>500516708
Talent trees are not classes, retoilet
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>>500517406
>le semantics and throwing tantrums
look my lil junkie, when 1/3 of a class is only viable, it's terrible game design
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>>500517530
nta but i do like specs being useful in specific scenarios
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desu they could make moonkin form and lightwell base spells and usage would barely move
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classic talent imbalance has always been an itemization issue anyway imo
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>>500516708
SPECS ARE NOT CLASSES DUMB RETOILET TROON
MAGE IS VIABLE
PRIEST IS VIABLE
DRUID IS VIABLE
PALA IS VIABLE
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>>500520658
>DRUID IS VIABLE
el oh el
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>>500520819
>WSG CARRIER CLASS
>RESTO HEALER
>NOT VIABLE
KYS
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>>500520871
>WSG CARRIER CLASS
Pointless minigame.

>RESTO HEALER
>viable
el oh el
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druids should only be able to heal with swiftmend, regrowth, and rejuvenation
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>>500520819
uhmm druid can rez one person in combat once every 30 minutes
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>>500520941
>non argument
I accept your surrender retoilet subhuman
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>>500517530
>it's LE BAD because... BECAUSE I SAY SO THAT'S WHY
have you ever considered different specs were meant for different things and raid "balance" was almost a complete nonfactor for anything?
Of course not because you are a clueless zoomer.
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the only bad part about classic game design is class stacking
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>>500521658
could it be avoided in 40man raids tho
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>>500521658
Class stacking is the consequence of poor class design, not the problem.
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>>500521707
>you cannot enter this instance. there are too many of your class represented within
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>>500521871
meta gaming has some influence as well
>>
Raids are irrelevant though
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>>500522441
No. The meta game is stacking classes due poor class design. Are you guys retarded? Do you think for a second before posting?



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