14 days until The Great Cryboomeringold 'niller thread >>500189528
>>500369668This sounds completely awful. The elitist min/max culture of WoW doesn't need this. The SoD numbers aren't amazing as is and I expect this to be a complete disaster having people quit like crazy. The raids are over a month away so maybe they will rethink this terrible idea.
>>500369927Imagine the rage bans
>>500369927Ah yes, can't wait to spend 90% of the time forming groups because everyone wants only the most metaslave pumper comps even if they are too shit to execute them. This is just m+ in classic kek
What is your reason for continuing to logon SoD?
>>500370497if i stop logging in, retail wins...
>>500370497Playing a __rogue__ is fun
>AQ40 and the new dragon raid drop on dec 6th>Poe2 beta got delayed to dec 6th
>>500369668>all that disney bloat
>>500370497>he logged on at all
>mom making me get a job by the end of the yearthey need to release fresh FAST
>>500374125Move out then nigga 18+ website btw
>>500374125Just tell her you're a professional son.
>>500374125tell her once last rank and you'll get a j*b
>>500374125just work for a week and quit. mom wont be mad because at least youre trying
https://youtu.be/Jgmf6P12dpohttps://youtu.be/Jgmf6P12dpohttps://youtu.be/Jgmf6P12dpo
>>500379549TBC is retail. Literally no difference.
>>500379549why is his voice like that
>50038191Xlil bro here still forcing this meme for 3 years
TBC HYPE TBC HYPE
TBC HYPE! (but only after it because consensus on reddit because that's where I get all my ideas)
>we are going back to private servers! translation: i don't even know how to change the realmlist and i would never leave my favorite streamer but if pretend blizzard has competition maybe they will finally fix the game
not going to back to private servers until they get the better client
FASHY VND FRESHY!
blizzards cooking
>>500391271r*dditors were BEGGING for wrath the second tbbc launched though, it has almost zero organic support and Blizzard knows it.
tbc chuds won
buy an ad az*mongolus
lol
sod phase 1 was enjoyable ish, kinda zoned out after lvl 25 though
my orc hunter is ready, I will roll on hc fresh and camp flagged ally retards in swamp of sorrows
>>500396948why swamp of sorrows specifically
compromise between FASHVNILLA AVRYANS and tbbc toddlers: we will add fem draenei to Vanilla and leave out everything else.I think it's a fair deal.Thoughts?
>>500397645>camp flagged ally retards in swamp of sorrowsthere's an npc that flags you if you get attacked iirc, a guard maybe. Probably broken but they dont fix it
>>500397645>>500397730>>500396948>DANIEBhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NutbssNK0jw
>>500397645https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=861/stonard-scoutally players kill scouts and get flagged
>>500397730they fixed that long ago though
>>500397853they did not
compromise between tbcchads and vanilla subhumans: we will remove all boss mechanics except tail swipe and cleave and keep everything else.I think it's a fair deal.Thoughts?
>>500397730>>500397835>>500397845kek thats a great idea
my main's death in hc, low 40s, was due to that zombie summoning troll in stva pala was fighting him and bubbled and then he aggroed to me, seemingly for no reason. I suspect I walked past a totem and entered the threat table bit of a piss take but i laughed it off, had a good run
A better compromise by TBChads and vanillasissies is a TBC pre-patch vanilla only server. Still, TBC raids > vanilla raids and I'm tired of shitters because they're the ones saying TBC raids aren't enjoyable due to having too many (more than one) mechanics.
>>500407389>TBC pre-patch vanilla only serverTurning easy content into even easier content, sounds pretty boring anon.
>>500407389just play retail if you like toilet crusade so much
>>500407389tbc will never happen again outside of doa pservers played by the few hundred utter retards brain damaged enough to think TBC is somehow good.I can for sure say everything wrong with WoW started with TBC. Classic in itself was the perfect game, the content island like Outland Northrend and shit killed the game.If TBC was good anybody would still play it nobody plays TBC though. I’m just glad vanilla is universally agreed as the best game.Vanilla was the only time the game was good. Everything after it was a slowing of growth and utter stagnation leading to decline. The only reason tbc and wotlk are seen as positive is because of the momentum from Vanilla lasting into their timelines. Those expansions did nothing to grow the game on their own.TBC sucked dick, and every single expansion beyond it just copy/pasted tiny variations of the same shit, over and over. Once factions shared a city it was over. Blizzard knew they could do half the work for the same engagement/sub numbers and mailed everything in. It's also when the leadership at the company took a backseat and started counting money and letting the interns run the show and turn the wrenches.
How exactly will this work, you think?
>>500410916>SoD turning eveb more into retail with each phase>classic already became retail with cata>hardcore and era deadHe won
>>500410916It was poorly worded, you will not lose loot.t. friends with a streamer who is friends with Aggrend/ArtemisHowl.
sod phase 1 was kino
>>500412464Should have been a lvl 30 cap and then 60. Would have been perfect.
>>500369668How come Shaman feel so shit to play? I feel no satisfaction when I play mine
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/battle-net-client-beta-update-pick-classic-version-from-client-349407Maybe they will fix top row as well, so you can favorite the right classic variants?
>fresh reconfirmedwhy are they just leaving SoD out to dry?
they should add classic servers where all your abilities must be clicked. it would make for a fun challenge for normal people while putting them on the same playing field as cryboomers
So is it true? Are we seriously getting F R E S H classic servers on EU/US? Or is this bullshit and it's just going to be China? I just want a new fresh to level my WC3 race/class combo kino character, bros... Also, RP in classic when?
>>500419209aggrend ate the code again
>>fresh reconfirmed
The animes are considering fresh, stay tuned...
let blud cook
'niller cryboomer
STOP SAYING THOSE WORDS
nillers make up 13% of the posters but commit 52% of the crybooming.
>combust is up>get a 16k fireball crit>spam fireball with the hotstreak procs>the ignite shrinksWhy does this happen? What am i doing wrong?
>>500424185>What am i doing wrong?Playing a mage
>>500369927Every time I think of switching to SoD they do something retarded like this
do we have new pics of javels gym brapper yet
>cryboom salvdali is running around epl reporting bots seething about the gamelmfao
nilla' fire mage is pretty fun. If anyone is legitimately curious as to why and wants a genuine conversation, feel free to ask. I'm currently a top 10 era fire mage.
>>500425023>combustion>fireball>fireball>pyroblast>fireball>fireball>pyroblast>fireball>scorch>fireball>fireball>pyroblast>fireball>fireball>pyroblast>fireball>scorchle ebin top 10 spec
>>500424941he'll spend hours griefing bots like hes a hall monitor
>>500425194Anon, you let ignite drop like 4 times there.
>>500425323nope the other fire mage slaves kept it up for me
Alex is joining my DD guild for Fresh>kill me
Now that fresh is confirmed, will this keep 'nillers in check at last? or scream and beg for another one after 3 months?
Man remember back in original classic when everyone had 20k gold, full bis, epic mounts, every crafting recipe, and did 10 million dps? I wish we could go back.
>>50042681913 year old me got nudes from a 35 year old woman. TAKE ME BACK.
>>500424185Please someone answer this
>>500426819>man remember being a clueless kid? i wish i could feel that way again, maaan i wish we could go backmanchild moment
>>500424185What game mode?
>>500426972>clueless kidThere were grown ass men running around with zero clue what to do
>>50042680720 years from here you'll still be seething about how popular vanilla is. And we will still roll on every freshie!
>>500427204and now they're bigger grown ups with more important things to domeanwhile you're stuck in the same space for 20 years
>>500427226>seething about how 'nillers cry, screech and fume when they don't get what they want every 3 monthsi'm so jealous
>>500427329Or, here me out, I still want all of those things in the game but blizzard needs to make them significantly harder to obtain so there's actually prestige and value to a given classic character that is progressed.
>UH YOU CANT JUST PLAY A HUMAN IN AN RPG BECAUSE THATS BORING DUE TO YOUR REAL LIFE RACE BEING HUMAN THIS IS A CONCERNING FACTOR
>>500427671so you want them to kill the game, got it
>>500427726Funny how that gets a fast 180 if you decide to play as a female girl woman character because that's not what you are irl
The WoW token will be in fresh, even vanilla and TBC
>>500428484and thats's a good thing!
>>500422369I will seethe forever over that time he teleported a hardcore griefer into the sky to "punish" them
>>500427865>making things harder to obtain and therefore more valuable is ruining the game>>500417035
>'toilet>hard
that was the point retard thanks for outing yourself as brown
>instant indirect seetheHMOLYLY
Ulduar is still the best raid from the Original Trilogy™
>>500431048it was mid
>>500428397UM I DONT WANT TO STARE AT A MANS ASS OKAY
>>500430075>xhe thinks wow boomers love things when are hard and tried a gotcha with retail wowbased larping tourist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7HxoqCepMIT'S UPIT'S UP
>>500433506middle eastern hands wrote this post
Fresh? Fresh.
>>500435312convince me to play rogue this time anon I always want to but end up settling on warrior cause it feels like I'm just losing at character creation
>>500435408I'm not gonna convince you, just play what you find fun :3
>>500434269>unsolicited politicsim sorry you're in endless misery, anon
>>500436558what if having fun to me is absolutely dumpstering people in raids on parses but I stop having fun when I have to walk out of the raid and go back to being a solo warrior, miserable in the open world
>>500435408The absolute state of browns.. do you play with helmet display on or off btw I'm making some notes on shitskins
>>500434024seriously kill yourself
>>500427109Cata classic fire mageTheres no info on why my ignites are shrinking on crits
>>500434024>its so funny how they announce this as if we haven't done this a million timesthe irony of this statement lmfao holy shit
yeah im brownbetterrogueongwhennilla
Classes for this feel?I already casted my vote for Harris btw
>>500438418If you crit at lets say 2 seconds into the fight for 40K, you'll have a 10K ignite for 4 secs. It'll tick twice at 4 and 6.If you crit again at 4 seconds into the fight with another 40K fireball, you'll have a 20K ignite for 2 secs. The last tick should be 10K because the first fireballs ignite already ticked twice.That's how it was explained to me. They made combust eat all ignites and that now includes instant pyroblast crits.
Least addicted junkie
>>500438840that's not really relevant to wow discussion but based
>>500439067Whats happening is im getting crits, and theyre not growing the ignite, but shrinking it for some reason
>>500437124Good geared warrior with fap beats most classes I think
>>500434024unless its alex nobody fucking cares about any video posted here
>>500439275
>>500441837That's a nice Alexander-esque looking houseis that in Gregory?It looks Plain niceDefinitely Unique Isolated
>insta deletedSup al*x, didn't know you were a janny. No surprise there desu
World of Warcraft classic fresh hype
>>500442897KEK
>>500442897
>>500426894>13 year old me got nudes from a 35 year old woman. TAKE ME BACK.Green text story that shit.
>>500443784She was a massive attentionwhore, not really much else to say about it. She did have a pretty nice ass.
>>500434024Is there at least rank 14 now or is there no reason to resub?
FRESH CHADS WE'RE WINNING
>>500446108FRESH needs not christcucks
shitty bugged quest. wow definitely made up of pajeets
inshallah amigos who's ready to sell some gold
>>500446108only Anime and God can save Classic now
>>500446496wrong general, tranny
>>500446979>classic baby trying to call someone trannykek
>fashy and freshy!!
>>500444054You could go in details a bit ie. you finding out she is really a female, not a guy pretending to be a female for free gold handouts, how you roped her for nudes etc.
>>500447173go back to /b/ freak
praying for FASHY
>1fmd5
>>500448273I bet her butthole is brown because she's an anal slut
god i want mop so badly so i can spend all day doing challenge dungeons
too bad to do m+ in retail?
not a fan of disney bloat and timegates and fomo and chores
yet you want to play expansion that had all of that, curious?
did it, though?
yes
wotlk was the beginning of the end, mop was the beginning of the disneyfication (both were fun expansions though)
*tbbc
proof?
>>500369668I quit in P3, help me out with some morbid curiosity>did P4 kill the game harder or are we so fucking back>is cata fucking over>is era fucking over>is hardcore fucking over>is turtle fucking over>is HSWoW fucking over>is 'etail fucking over>why the fuck did those faggots nerf spriest in pvp REEEEEE I was watching some spriest duel and apparently disperse and vp share a slot fuck blizzard AAAAAAAAAAthankx
so is FRESH happening ot not?
>get a world #4 parsie last night in BoT>It's only a 98 percentile scoreshouldn't it be a 100?
we're in herehttps://www.twitch.tv/salvdali
>>500450485cute fem troll troonie!
do we agree with her?
>lebbit screenshotyeah im skipping that one
>>500451629I wish I was so braindead and easily impressed
>>500450485eww what is this bluerage class
>>500450485wheres the crybooms?
>>500449996all deadfresh in two weeks or it's over
>>500449996>>did P4 kill the game harder or are we so fucking backp4 at least tried new shit, but there's absolutely nothing new in p5 and 6 lmfao, it's just era at this point with wrath skills>>is cata fucking overIt's not looking good, and firelands has even less hype than TOGC ever did>>is era fucking overAlways has been>>is hardcore fucking overSame as above, but it's there as a "break in case of emergency" for streamers, which it will be the case in november>>is turtle fucking overWas it ever the best option at all? lmao maybe if you're a hopeless junkie>>is HSWoW fucking overWho>>is 'etail fucking overfunny enough is that it hasn't been as atrocious as its previous expansions
>>500450160make her 10 years older 1 foot taller and have huge milkers
>tfw still need to 60 on SoD just to see any new shenanigansFug.If I played Dagger Rouge in the new fresh server that may or may not exist will I actually be able to do raids and shit?Or should I just go Warlock for a guaranteed spot in lots of shit.
>>500452640tww launch was pretty good but theyre starting to flub it
never played a rogue in classic before, any guides on what the pvp "rotation" is like for stunlocking and such?
>>500452802there's no fresh coming, devs are all in on sod
>never played a rogue in classic before, any guides on what the pvp "rotation" is like for stunlocking and such?
>>500449996Hardcore on defias pillager alliance is actually growing again. bumped from low to med pop and 3-4 layers are standard, up from 1-2
>>500454160>and 3-4 layers are standard, up from 1-2what do you get from lying on the internet?
>>500454036best rogue gameplay right herehttps://www.twitch.tv/konazbhttps://www.twitch.tv/konazbhttps://www.twitch.tv/konazb
>>500454152 meant to reply to>>500454036
>>500452752so is FRESH happening or not?
>>500452218is it just regular fashyfresh or are there gimmicks? faction queues/layering etc?
>>500454446pedophile lmfaokys
https://poll-maker.com/poll5315099xee8545A8-160vote on fresh
>>500454516I'm not a pedo though
>>500454446>>500454671i love you jahy
>>500454671Based NOT pedo
Strange
>look up pvp guides for rogue>it's just footage of people playing the class, no discussion of what abilities you should use
>>500455490it's really not that hard you fucking retard, you stun them and then you stun them again
>>500455579never played rogue before lil guy? after your initial stun there's several other abilities you can use. I want to see a discussion of the merits of each
>>500455815just play the fucking game
>>500452802>dagger rogueGood choice as most rogues will go for swords, you will have less competition for loot in raids.>will Iyes, rogues are good in vanilla, you want a bunch of em for raids, also if you really, really want to guarantee a raid spot then just apply to a good guild that gonna form on the server and rush to 60 with them
>>500455959>keeps bitinglurk moar
>>500454036>>500455490just hit cheapshot and then freestyle with vanish and preparation
>Shake Shack x World of Warcraft CollaborationEvery time I open the news for this slop. we need fresh more than ev'
xiao
>>500454309nice screen bloat
disney retoilet pixar bloat
daily 'niller meltie
fresh wotlk when
>>500460167herd dat
>junkie>cryboomer>volumes>nillerwhat other words upset vanilla players without fail?
>>500462150parsie meltie
2004 FRESH when
>>500462150mazedaddictstreamer gamestreamer fodder
>1 more filtered IP
>>500369927Why act surprised that retail devs want to shove retail shit like hard modes that reward better loot into classic? SoD was nicknamed retail minus for a reason
>>500460167>fresh wotlk whenretail is available right now for you
>>500466068Retail is not an mmo.
>Incentivize players to metawhore even harder than they already do for better rewards in AQMight as well just add M+ proper into SoD while you're at it.
>>500462150lady fashjred circle manlcpremadearena
>>500369927>cant play sod>cant play retail (mogsmountscheevos is not playing the game)>cant era without buying hundreds of dollars worth of golddoes blizzard really expect shitters to just level 1-30 in HC on repeat?
>>500434024He's right. It's clear they're abandoning sod and any new content being worked on was shelved.
>>500468236Yup. It makes sense too considering amount of people that jumped ship for HC/Era.
>>500468613>considering amount of people that jumped ship for HC/Era.all dozens of them?
>>500468945Wym all the streamers jumped ship and then people followed lol. Plus I play Stitches and SW is kinda fucking packed on buff hours.
>>500462150retailthe word alone makes them get a pavlonian response irl when they hear that word like retail store or retail price
After 11 months of Season of Discovery, what were we meant to discover?
>>500469363all hundreds of them?
>>500469552Maybe Vanilla wasn't as good as we remember..
>>500469552how easy it was to grift the classic community
>>500469552That you really don't want a classic plus
>>500469552Maybe the real discovery was the friends we made along the way.
>>500469552The runes ig xD
>>500469552classic+ is a pipe dreamgive up and embrace fresh
>sod is almost over>they never added a scarlet monastery raid or karazan crypts
>>500470443herd dat
>>500470483Yea, as per usual Blizzard are frauds and hacks and aren't ashamed to lie and deceive their playerbase. Hence why they teased new raids at the reveal of SoD and then left it unrealized.
>>500470483sod bled too many players for it to be worth their time doing more custom content.
ok, so sod lost (bigly)but WHY did sod lose (bigly)?
>era: lost>sod: lost>'toilet: lost>Chyna: won (BIGLY)
>>500470907It was pretty hubristic to completely alter the gameplay as well. Just the content is one thing.
>>500470483>i wanted the same exact dungeon but 10 man instead of 5'nillers will eat anything up lmfao
>>500471010>hype it up as classic+>it's just SoM with wrath abilities.
>>500471094What is classic+ for you?
>>500471263DONT FALL FOR THIS RETARD'S BULLSHIT
>>500471080Yeah, they went too far by adding retail abilities and shit like the warlock demon form that looks so out of place. I'ma be honest I think most people's idea of classic + is new content as in new zones and shit but of course that's asking too much for nu-blizz.
if you ask a hundred 'nillers what they want out of classic+ you'll get 101 different answers
>>500471397>instaholy
What are we rolling on FRESHIE?
>>500469552That they really should've went with a more well-rounded expansion like TBC or WoTLK as a base.Trying to reinvent the wheel by adding in a hundred different retail abilities doesn't really help in creating a fluid and well thought out rotation.Keeping us hostage in meaningless sub 60 content will kill the game because the target audience (classic players) don't want their progress invalidated every 2 months.GDKPs while promoting gold buying does nothing except kill any incentive for good, and/or geared players to go back to older raids to help people that still need items.Revolving an entire raid difficulty level around having an arbitrary resistance threshold is terrible game design, as well as resistance checks in general.Incentivizing players into doing harder content by dangling a carrot (molten & shadowflame color effects) isn't a terrible idea.There's a lot more but I don't really wanna type this shit out. Just wait another 6 months and someone will make a video essay about SoD's successes and failures.
>>500471408>new content as in new zones and shit but of course that's asking too much for nu-blizz.So.. cataclysm?
>>500471669Nelfie druid
>no one can agree on what classic plus is supposed to beit speaks.
>>500469552>After 11 months of Season of Discovery, what were we meant to discover?Your real self
classic+ failedits time
Fresh please. It's all that matters.
>"I want Classic+! With new races, new zones, better class balance and new abilities, new professions, ect.">It already exists, it's called Burning Crusade. >"NOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT"
Brown retoilets are still mind broken about vanilla, not too surprising I guess but I wonder why they even bother posting here...
>>500472293>It already exists, it's called Burning Crusade.No it doesn't. I can't honor grind for some of the best gear in the game that I can go use in the current raid.
i want the same exact game, but with completely different changes
>>500472261just make your own server nigger. repacks are super easy to download and play.
>>500472425if you weren't a tourist, you'd know that the pvp gear sucked in original vanilla and it was always bad until late AQ when no one cared for itAlas, you got the 2019 version where they didn't care about progressive patches
>>500472293That's just burning crusade. Ruins everything actually, outland was a mistake
>>500472425>being too shit for arena>being too shit for tbc arenalmfao
>>500472672>the retailer's refrain
>add new raids adjacent to naxx in difficulty>MAYBE minimal QOL changes like giving taunt to pallyThat's it. That's all they needed to do and people would have been thrilled.
>>500472293love how the mere mention of tbc being what 'nillers ask for classic+ drives them into an uncontrollable anger
yeah dude*cyclone*this is really*cheap shot*the peak*stormherald stun*of pv- *dies*
>>500473032The gameplay is completely different Mr. Troll.
>>500473268>same talents with tweaks and new ones for the 10 new levels>same classes with same abilities and new ones>new zones as well as finished zones (dustwwallow, plaguelands, badlands)>"eermmm, my armor looks different!"
Tell me about the brown people..why do they hate vanilla yet spend all their time here?
brb bio
>>500473268you saying you go from shadow bolt spam to shadowbolt spam? :o
>browns hate vanillauhmm, about that... https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/image/FQxK1-5PuSQACOX14tI-bw/
>>500474201>whitest v*nilla enjoyer
>>500472609Yeah I'm invited to any MC raid I want in my rank 13 gear, suck a dick.
>>500474515>grinding r13 to raid mcgrim
>>500474201Curious how it's always the same (1) picture that you repost of your boyfriend for like a year straight now. Maybe you should fly to Poland and marry him
>>500474615>to raid mcI play to rank. Slumming in MC is just for novelty.
>>500472609>progressive patchesRemoving honor decay and having only blue gear for a while mite b cool
>>500474686>I play to rankgrimmer
>>500474668>doesn't deny the brown partlmfao
>>500474817Sure, not for everyone. But the point is TBC is not that. So you are BTFO.
>>500474668Isn't he from upstate NY
>>500474915but you have an arena rank THOUGH?
>>500474668>let me tell you why a shitskin is ok when vanilla does itgrim
>>500474881That man looks brown sure. Wow you found one, how impressive.>>500474961I guess his boyfriend would know the specifics, I don't really know
>>500475239>y-yeah its only 1 totallyoh 'nillers are funny when they perform gymnastics
>>500475390Is that why you endlessly repost the one kek. You have found the exception to the rule
>>500475717You're getting overly defensive over some anon posting someone else's handis it you maybe? it's the only explanation
>>500475807Meds. But keep on spamming I guess, vanilla will stick around for years while you seethe here
>>500475956>m-m-medsany other generic reply?
sod makes sense once you realize the goal of it was never to be a beta test for a classic plus, it was meant to acclimate classic players to and turn them into retail players.
>>500476272trvke
>>500476094>Says "man" spamming the same posts 12 hours a day for a yearYup yup.>>500476272Maybe, season 1 was at least fun as an experiment, been pretty dead since
>>500476272Which was never going to happen.
>>500476603>for a yearHmm?
>>500476272>>500476639i hate to admit it but it happened to me. the retail lite-ness of sod made me curious about retail and i must admit there are some things retail does very well, and it's mostly the classes/specs. they feel pretty uniquebut that's where it ends, the content itself is fucking awful. everything about the raids, m+ and group content makes me appreciate the simplicity of vanilla loot pinata bosses that dont shit out a billion ground swirlies the moment a fight starts that will one shot you. also, leveling is kino. they should lean into that way more if classic+ is ever a thing, just make the leveling experience take way longer and make it way more involved
>>500477427>i hate to admit it but it happened to me. the retail lite-ness of sod made me curious about retail and i must admit there are some things retail does very well, and it's mostly the classes/specs. they feel pretty unique>but that's where it ends, the content itself is fucking awful. everything about the raids, m+ and group content makes me appreciate the simplicity of vanilla loot pinata bosses that dont shit out a billion ground swirlies the moment a fight starts that will one shot you. also, leveling is kino. they should lean into that way more if classic+ is ever a thing, just make the leveling experience take way longer and make it way more involvedThis is spot on
>>500477427Yes, it might bring over retail hopefuls, but not the other way around. Which is basically what happened, it got turned into a retail hellscape by retail players.
>log out at 53 with a full stack of finished incursion quests to fix a UI problem>they all disappear when I log back in
make sure to copy paste some funny reddit posts and solo bump the thread at page 9 as usual. I command you to
>>500478310no more archiving at 300 posts here friendnow that fresh is here /wowcg/ is POPPING OFF!!!
>>500478220its why i reflexively push back against people wanting class """balance""" in vanilla. it doesn't need that shit. look at all the discussion around SoD and 99% of it is people whinging that "x class gets y ability so why can't their class have it too????". you're just turning the game into retail with its hyper fixation on balance that doesn't fit at all into the world of vanilla
>>500478584Exactly right, it's an enormous waste of time to even attempt.
>le classic to retail pipelinethis rerun again?
FRESH COMETHthe beta launcher now lets you launch into your preferred version of classic from the get go.
>>500479432>stop making sense
>>500479729Where's fresh?all i see isStaleStreamersClassic+
>>500480130Retail-*
>>500480130It means what they have coming would require yet another tab. Like we have seasonal, hardcore, and era now. Adding another would start to get cluttered. So they are adding this drop down to the launcher for the 4th one to be added.>SFHC
>>500480130Then maybe you need some help, it's not healthy to be this obsessed about streamers all the time
This game is fun
>>500480225Can you fly in that gamemode? or play evokers, dks, monks or demon hunters?
>>500480359Whenever I see a gnome female, I want to face fuck it. Is this normal?
>>500480130>3 insta 'niller cryboomer replies
>>500480389That's where the minus comes in, Melvin.
>>500480416Yes, that is the normal response
>>500480616so because it has some stuff retail uses right now, does that mean vanilla is retail minus? both features mounts and pets...
>>500480724>Yes, that is the normal responseThank you.
if sod is retail-...does that make retail classic+?
kinda funny how 'nillers corner themselves with their own logic
say something nice about him
>>500476272>classic was the beta test for classic plus>som was the beta test for classic plus>sod was the beta test for classic plus>(You are here)
>>500483598TBC was classic+ all along.
>>500483598>classic was the beta test for classic plus>som was the beta test for classic plus>sod was the beta test for classic plus>classic+yaay!
>best iteration of the game that everyone wants was made by """problematic""" dudebros who would sample employee breastmilkKek this must make modern blizzard seethe to no end
Fresh is all there is. Devs can't do classic+ even if they wanted to.
>>500484176Everything of any lasting value the western video game industry ever made was made by autistic programmers and idea guy dude bros in the 2000s and now that theyve been ousted it's over for AAA
era fresh?#nochanges freshdream bigly
>>500484469>Everything of any lasting value the western video game industry ever made was made by autistic programmers and idea guy dude bros in the 2000s and now that theyve been ousted it's over for AAAThis is a correct statement.
Why did you reply to your own post positively?
niller
you guys gonna play the monster hunter wilds demo on steam tomorrow?
>>500494784never played monster hunter so probably not
Please... TBC fresh with an era server at the end. I just wanna level a fury warrior, get warglaives and POOMP in SWP BiS.
you can get warglaives and poomp on retail
>used to think rogues were hard to play>turns out you just go hemo and stunlock every class to death besides magesand your stunlock is only 4 abilities, 5 including eviscerate at the end to finish them off.you'll use 1 more ability for a mage, 2 more for a warrior
They should announce the LFG tool for SoD and classic+.lets be honest guys.....spamming in trade chat is not fun.I rather have a LFG board in SW and OG
>>500494784>monster hunterThis is a WoW thread get the fuck out of here loser.
>>500502602s-sorry
>>500478584>>500479336You don't need perfect balance i agree there but...Classes should at least be viable to play.Some specs/trees are fucking USELESS in classic.Stuff being useless/non functional is stupid and you fucks always defend that garbage.You could literally delete half of the trees and the game would be the same.....that is bad design.
>>500503535I like ass raping rank 14s with my useless spec
>>500503656Maybe in your delusional dreams.Make an actual argument or jump off a building.There are literally things in the talent tree that nobody ever takes. That shit is just undefendable and creates noob traps for no reason.
>>500503535>some specs are uselessThis is a bit of an exaggeration. I've reliably parsed 99s as ret in a casual guild, the damage put put is similar to a blue parsing rogue. I'm always in the middle of the meters. Fights where warriors do badly, ret does alright, Fights where mages do badly, ret does alright. It's fucking mid.But mid is all you need to clear content, its not useless, just not desireable at all.
1 week mute for ""hate spreech" see ya latr brosshttps://youtu.be/761yzGz4HzQfuck niggers ^^
>>500503535>Classes should at least be viable to playname a single class in vanilla that isn't viable to play?>Some specs/trees are fucking USELESS in classicthat's just wrong though. classes are more than their specs in vanilla. they accentuate the inherent strengths of the class and or fill in gaps to add some quality of life. a paladin is still a paladin regardless of where he chooses to spend his talent points. he's still a healer/utility/support class, with his talent choices either giving him a little more oomph offensively or defensively. a warrior is a tank/damage dealer and can allocate talent points to help in say pvp (mortal strike), cleave (sweeping strikes), flurry/bloodthirst (pve dps) or protection for tanking (lol). see where i'm going with this?>You could literally delete half of the trees and the game would be the same.....that is bad designsee abovestop applying a retail mindset to a version of the game that was never intended to be viewed through. you quite literally have retail for this, or future expansions
I'm feeling FASHY
>>500506934my favotite btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRYokc3VBC4
>and then he said, "there will be a scarlet monastery and karazhan crypts raid!"
>hey guys what if we made it so anon NEVER got his fucking upgrade after 2 goddamn phases? he would be FORCED to sub FOREVER!!!fuck blizzard fuck this game fuck rng. can't unsub hard enough.
>>500507958See you tomorrow
>>500507958>noooo I need muh looties and dopamineNo you don't, you cleared the content just fine with what ever you had on right now
>Play SoD Season 1 a fuck ton with friends>Get like 4 characters runed and geared out in BFD>Pretty pleased, level 25 lasting a bit too long but whatever>Take a break for last month>Come back for Phase 2 with friends>PvP is absolutely atrocious with the wotlk perk runes>Gnomeregan is boring as fuck>Stranglethorn event necked by previously mentioned pvp>All quit>Don't even think about SoD until today>Check out some videos on the current state, check the generalso it seems we made the right call, eh?how long til they attempt actual classic+ and fuck that up too?
>>500511667Yeah phase 1 was the only good one. Ashenvale would actually have been legendary if they were able to balance layer populations. But was still good nonetheless.>send me a raid invitethat's all that should be required for content in a wow classic season. The only time they got it right.
>>500511667i wish they focused more on the RPG aspects of the game instead of the weird obsession the player base has with character power. i genuinely just don't like people's fascination with damage rotations. combat is not supposed to be engaging, it's supposed to be a chore between the actual fun of socializing with people.star war galaxies is the only mmo that ever got it right, but we were too blind and the corpos were too greedy to realize it at the time
freshno boonno welfare r14just pure nilla
>>500513447>fresh>no boon>no welfare r14>just pure nilla
i wish paladin and shaman were pure support classes. chain heal and holy light are instant cast but have cooldowns with other heals being removed. blessings are stronger but dont last nearly as long. totems are fewer and simpler and have significantly less duration and much smaller auras, but are no longer limited to just parties, and can affect raid members on top of being much stronger
>>500514971feel like paladin shouldve been a tank class primarily desu
>>500507127>name a single class in vanilla that isn't viable to play?NTA but in a deep tree perspective>Balanceyou run out of mana too fast and you bring nothing to the table, your spells and dots are inefficient in long fights>ArcaneSame as balance, people never go deep arcane and just mix it up with PoM for pyroblasts>prot palano taunt makes you fully useless lmao. it's just the power leveling spec but that's shouldn't be considered viable because that's not what you're playing the spec for>Holy priestall the talents are for shit you'd never do as a healing priest, plus light well being the weirdest end talent that not only people barely use, but that's ineffective in general>Spriestagain, sub par to any other normal DPS to the point you get under tanks in terms of damage and not bringing anything to the raid>stop applying a retail mindset to a version of the game that was never intended to be viewed through. you quite literally have retail for this, or future expansionsit's funny you drop the retail boogeyman, but the way every single player builds their talent trees is no different from when retail had those talent points where it was just 3 options every 15 levels and everyone picks the same ones. You see the exact same talent tree build in vanilla in every single class.
>>500516708Talent trees are not classes, retoilet
>>500517406>le semantics and throwing tantrumslook my lil junkie, when 1/3 of a class is only viable, it's terrible game design
>>500517530nta but i do like specs being useful in specific scenarios
desu they could make moonkin form and lightwell base spells and usage would barely move
classic talent imbalance has always been an itemization issue anyway imo
>>500516708SPECS ARE NOT CLASSES DUMB RETOILET TROONMAGE IS VIABLEPRIEST IS VIABLEDRUID IS VIABLEPALA IS VIABLE
>>500520658>DRUID IS VIABLEel oh el
>>500520819>WSG CARRIER CLASS>RESTO HEALER>NOT VIABLEKYS
>>500520871>WSG CARRIER CLASSPointless minigame.>RESTO HEALER>viableel oh el
druids should only be able to heal with swiftmend, regrowth, and rejuvenation
>>500520819uhmm druid can rez one person in combat once every 30 minutes
>>500520941>non argumentI accept your surrender retoilet subhuman
>>500517530>it's LE BAD because... BECAUSE I SAY SO THAT'S WHYhave you ever considered different specs were meant for different things and raid "balance" was almost a complete nonfactor for anything?Of course not because you are a clueless zoomer.
the only bad part about classic game design is class stacking
>>500521658could it be avoided in 40man raids tho
>>500521658Class stacking is the consequence of poor class design, not the problem.
>>500521707>you cannot enter this instance. there are too many of your class represented within
>>500521871meta gaming has some influence as well
Raids are irrelevant though
>>500522441No. The meta game is stacking classes due poor class design. Are you guys retarded? Do you think for a second before posting?
