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First for go back "playing" gook "games" you virgin
>>500401081>elf threadyou did good
>>500395952Everything about them is inferior to the mk I with the sole exception being the special attack which nukes crushers, maulers, mutants and ragers if you hit them in the head. If you can't dodge for shit, can't get out of the way of some of the most telegraphed attacks in the game and can't for the life of you hit the same enemy twice in order to kill it, the folding shovels are for you.If you know what you're doing, just get a mk I.
>every single ogryn skin looks like shitheythis is discriminationwhat the fuck
>>500402539At least them looking silly kind of makes some sense for ogryn.The psyker ones are worse, it's just random tubes going nowhere.
>>500402615Random tubes are peak 40kcore
>>500403480For spees muhreen, yeah. They have power armour to justify the random tubes being there.Meanwhile, at the psyker cosmetic store...The tubes literally go nowhere.
>>500404002Warplet mind detected. Of course you don't get it.
>>500404002it's the same with belts for le anime rpg main character, you would'nt get it
>>500404460Dorktide isn't anime. If they're gonna go that route I want anime catgirls in the game.
>>500404552
>can't find any 17% toughness curiosFor fucks sake, they just had to leave this one stat not possible to upgrade.
>>500404785Cute.
>>500404978Fatshark couldn't deprive us of the sense of pride and accomplishment that comes from refreshing Melk every day for a year.
>>500404978gamble for curios at melk, the one thing melkbucks are useful for now
>>500404785Cute, but needs more catgirls. Being anime styled would hurt either...>>500404978At least that's not a health curio. a +21% health is super rare, I think I have two of them only.I think I have a fourth +17% you on my veteran, if I could I would sell it to you (can't give it away, ever since I misread the price of a cosmetic and spent all my dockets on it I'm broke).
They have nothing planned for Darktide's anniversary, right?
>>500406530They have something prepared: a vacation and if they work really hard then maybe an irrelevant blogpost too. Get excited.
>>500406530Theyre going to run a competition.Whichever team has the fastest clear gets to gangbang catfish
>>500406530They already have premium 60 aids ridden Sudanese niggers booked and a couple pounds of coke to snort off their dicks.Nothing ingame if that's what you mean, just the office party.
>>500406530Rinda boss event boogaloo part 2 - Rumble in the Zoo
>hold a horde downstairs with my purgatus staff while rest of the team deals with a beast of nurgle>ogryn turns back and unload his kickback in the stairs>"LOOK AT THE OGRYN GO!"
>>500406730if you knew what catfish looks like these days you would know that's no prizet. fatshark employee who has to see her around
>>500406778Stromdorf maps when?
>>500402152>with the sole exception being the special attack which nukes crushers, maulersAnd that shit does NOT come for free. This is what I have to do to make it one shot them:Folding shovel, both marks:80% damage80% penetration80% first target+25% damage to carapace+10% damage to elitesThurst 4Talents:+20% damage from Bring it down!+30% weak spot damage+15% elite damage+10% rendingIf I remove 1 of the above it doesn't work. I can get around some of the requirements by using Limbsplitter, but that blessing is worse than it seems because it resets on every hit. So if you keep hitting things it never goes off CD. It's useless outside the psykhanium. Uncanny Strikes makes it easier, but you need to have stacks running and they only last for 3.5 seconds. Now consider all of this effort compared to le epic toothpick of death dueling sword stab stab and they're all dead. I want to hope for a balance patch before Christmas... but hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
>>500406768You should try it. It's very satisfying.
>>500407734can't say i like DS on vet, feels like knife is way better
>>500408050what blessings do people even run on vet DS4?
>ratclick get halloween event>shopclick get blog post
>>500409356ratclick has the halloween event it already has reenabled*FTFYyou don't have to pretend recycled content that they themselves admit is all they can do since dev time is focused on versus is good to own le chuds
>>500409378It's enough to oneshot both ragers, why would you need more, it's not like you're going to kill crushers with a HS anyway
>>500409480they get something to do while you get something to read
>>500408687i'm guessing agile and uncanny, same as everyone else, i've seen people run thrust but why bother, stabbing twice is fast as fuck you might as well have better hording
>>500409719sorry, I didn't realise I was speaking to an ignorant person, I do not want your advice
>>500409719less click is always better
>>500409648if they actually played ratclick, yet noone ever talks about the great games they had in ratclick, curious
>>500410042what about the great games of darktide? I only hear the bad
>>500409480It is 2025. Anon argues online that Vermintide 2 is still recycling old content while Darktide still doesn't have a Halloween event.It is 2026. Anon argues online that pretending Vermintide 2 reusing past events doesn't count as Darktide still doesn't have a Halloween event.It is 2027. Anon argues online that Vermintide 3 recycling assets from VT2 to push as content update for its Halloween event doesn't count as DarkTide 2's disastrous launch pushes content updates into "early" 2028.
>>500410238people like to whine, particularly here
Darktide is simply in permanent Halloween mode.
>>500410380yeah this post gets too ESL from the second line on for me to understand, work on your English before attempting to speak to me again.
>>500410493it even has a "this is halloween" song
>>500410380I have no problem reading this. Pretty good post.>>500410605work on your pattern recognition skills
>"NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! YOU NEEEEEEEEEEEED TO BUILD YOUR CHARACTER BASED ON MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY! NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Shut up, nerd. I build based on fun factor.
>>500411006laughed out loud at thisautistic people trying to be clever is so sad
>>500410012>>500409719you don't oneshot crushers even with thrust, it's a useless blessing
>>500410238>All zealot team>Run is smooth as butterWow it was super fun
>>500411231not even trying to be clever. If you can't read that post then you're the ESL one. But I'm glad I made you laugh.
>>500411317yeah but what if the crusher was already damaged? checkmate
>>500411392Honestly single-class teams are often like that, not just with zealots. The only exception is all psyker teams — if you get more than one smiter it will likely become a slot.
I just wasted 200k playing with brunt slot machine, apparently he got lots of 70% dmg boltgun.
>>500409480I've played some dying MMOs going into maintenance mode before and the entire community laments it when they start copypasting old events. Sometimes they get a bot to put them up automatically based on the date. It's giving me whiplash seeing Pablo try to turn that into a good thing because he has an inferiority complex.
>>500411774i can also oneshot a damage crusher with 1% hp with any weapon, retarded argument.Better hording is more valuable, then a gain looking at your posts you're baiting anyway.
>>500411774I don't build my loadouts based on what ifs.The blessing is technically useless, but if you simply prefer fewer clicks then I have no counter argument. The weapon is already good by default and you are welcome in my aurics.
>>500412087implying your team won't have damaged the crusher enough to 1 shot with thrust 90% of the time.>>500412091your entire loadout is based on what ifs. >what if I encounter enemies in this mission?
Did some halberd games on VT2 yesterday.I miss the halberd. I miss polearms.
>>500413875halberd's just bretonnian longsword but worse
>>500413963No half-swording moves.
my cute and funny wife
rumbler feels like shit to use during nurgle's blessing maelstromsI try to shoot a green trapper or flamer and they just walk right through the impact and are far enough away to take no damage by the time the grenade goes off
>>500414230Literally me. My jokes are 2-stage.
How is the correct way to deploy medipack? Sometime my team is at 40~60% health, but I know there is a medi station right ahead and I feel like a waste to deploy it. Or sometimes one dude is about to die but the rest of the team is fine.
>>500416152
>>500416152you're supposed to save than for the valkyrie or the extract elevator
>>500416152Do you need it for a boss or some rough event soon ish?Keep itIf not, get those fucks back up to health
>>500407734To be fair, a lot of those are things people are running away, and the stats, blessings and perks are easy to arrange. But the point is that they are much easier to use against carapace than the mk I shovel (I'm only talking shovels here), but still inferior because of worse horde clearing ability and less stagger.There are better weapons against hordes as there are better options for carapace elites, and there's the DS (which is just broken) but I love the basic shovel.
>>500411317Vet can one shot crushers with thrust rapier, and I'm sure that Zealot can too with duellist.Is it actually worth it? No, not really.
>>500416152Doing it more often than not is better. In all my auric games, we always have 2 health packs at the end event and we never need them.
>>500416152Use them proactively for events and big fights unless people are full. Better to use it and not need it than need it and now you didn't use it so somebody died like a bitch.Just don't drop them in elevators or something that's retarded.
>>500411862What happens if you have an all looooooooger team? Will they all try to compete for the same 5 poxwalker kills while going down to the other 50 of them?
My slightly retarded swede zoomer wife strawhat!
>>500417347>love the basic shovel.what blessings and perks do you use for it?
>>500417347>but still inferior because of worse horde clearing ability and less stagger.they have the exact same stagger on their heavies and the folding shovels actually have more on their lightsyou can check these numbers
>>500418679>blessingsSkullcrusher is the important one, the other is a toss between uncanny and decimator. If you like to engage armoured enemies with it often then get uncanny, I have grenades for that so I only poke them if I need the stagger while the grenade explodes. Decimator is better for hordes, not really necessary.>perksFlak and maniac.>>500419083You're right, they really do. Funny.I'd still put the mk I above the others due to the utility of the poke and it not getting you stuck on the animation. Mk VII is a strong contender, same heavy moveset but I don't like the lights as much, also no poke.
>Equip sapper shovel>BONK BONK BONK BONK BONK BONKI now see why people use the pan in tf2
>Go to download Forever Winter demo>60gbDemos are usually a vertical slice. Not a gated full game. Guess they're banking on people liking it enough to swipe after their experience.
>>500424339>Guess they're banking on people liking it enough to swipe after their experience.Anon figures out what a demo is, more news at 11.
Yeah, like I thought. All mouth, no staying power.
>>500424339Assuming it's the whole game but gated, I guess their logic is that if 1337haxx0rz can bypass the gate, they could also just pirate the entire game anyway. Unless the full game is 150GB or something.
>>500413963I really hate how the DLC weapons make some other weapons completely irrelevant any VT2. Cockhammer on dwarf especially.
>>500425525ogryn dickaxe...
just don't get hit
>>500404002they're exhaust tubes, they let out warp from your forearm (very strong warp zone)
i just don't care
>>500426169knife clears hordes faster and shield is much safer and deals with groups of ragers more easilypickaxe isn't a straight upgrade over either of those
>>500426169>>500426547And it's not a fucking DLC weapon, what a retarded comparison.
Do knoifers think they're useful in some way? They dance around the horde killing nothing and pretending they're doing something.
>>500427308>Sprints in>Finishes the crushers you've nearly killed>Goes back to dodging around 6 poxwalkers
>>500427308>T.Lowest in everything on the scoreboard
>>500427308Yeah I keep dying because of knife users they kill nothing
>>500428483t. "top of the scoreboard" solely due to killstealing specials that other people did 95% of the damage to, like all knoifers.
>>500427308They're annoying, but knife is very strong and puts up good numbers. Here's a knoifer I played with the other day. I didn't really see him much, but the numbers don't lie.
>>500430263see >>500430229
>>500430263uh uh uh he only got those numbers because I died!!! and I died because of him!!!
>tfw I love power outage missions>take gun with torch>slow pan looking for enemies>larp I'm a guardsman in my head>I don't like it down here>Emperor save me from the night>What is that?>I miss home>I hear footstepslove it
>>500430229what kind of dogshit build do you got going on that not only can't oneshot specials, but is slow enough at killing them that someone can run all the way over there and "steal your kill"
>>500430263>leave the entire team to die>solo some hordes >you are now top damageand he was still a net negative
>>500430396The boy put in over 1 million damage. I'm pretty sure all his kills were mostly his own damage.
>>500426547>>500426986retards
>>500430607Personally I hope for your sake that this has just been a longrunning LARP and you're not actually so retarded and so lacking in personal responsibility
>>500427308Some people are just bad anon. It's not the knife, it's the hand that wields it.
>>500430586It's pretty easy to steal kills when your entire "build" is designed solely around doing that to maxx scoreboard points.
>>500430998no, it's notthe vast majority of enemies are oneshot by the vast majority of weapons, if anything kniggers have their kills stolen more easily than someone using say a combat axe since the combat axe guy is just gonna oneshot most of what he swingsand the damage number takes overkill damage into account anyway, if you did 95% of the damage to an enemy you would get 95% of the credit for that specific number
If the team isn't struggling, then the scoreboard just shows whoever was rushing the most. It becomes a race to get to the kills before your teammates. There's no real weight to carry. However if the team is struggling, having a real problems and you're on top, then the score is irrefutable proof of you carrying. That's how I see it.
>>500430998>you arent killing SHIT knifeoid!>yeah of course you're killing shit your weapon is designed for itwell, which is it?
how 2 make best lightning staf build? scriers and critmax?
>>500432017Nice disingenous argument moron. Yes, your weapon does 0.000001 damage hundreds of times per second to steal kills from people doing actual damage. That is what your weapon is designed for.
Does surge work for both primary and secondary attacks?
>>500432126if you're doing actual damage why does he have more damage done than you?
>>500432341No, just the primary fire. Doesn't work on the charged attack as its not a projectile.
>>500432341only primary on the Electro and Blast staves
>>500432341not on lightning staff, no. It's just primary there.it does for voidstrike though
>>500432582>>500432625>>500432650ok thanks
>>500432126Wouldnt a weapon that functions like this also get all of its kills stolen by bigger damage instances?So which is it? Does the knife do no damage and gets all its kills taken, or does it do so much damage so fast it takes all the kills?
>>500432126>I died because the knife guy ran ahead and did not save me >but also I did less damage because he was right next to me stealing all my kills
>>500424339>Start up demo>Console aiming
>>500433059>runs off to fight shit alone so he can farm damage and pad stats>while the team diesgreat contribution, kniggers are useless
>>500425525The thing is, it's not only dlc weapons. And some dlcs weapons suck. For whatever reason Fatshark simply never buffed all those lacking weapons which are shit since release. And took way too long to nerf weapons that deserved it, like Elf javelin.
>>500433818dogshit tumblr art. I miss when people laughed at gay shit like this, now they think its painterly and "queer chic"
>>500433960It's cute art.
>Rannick calls us his best operativesWe've made it, lads.
This is apparently a woman. Genuinely terrible, zoomer artists are fucked in the head
>>500433818Morrow's too lanky.
okay i take back what i said, DS is way stronger than knife
my beautiful gook queen..
>>500435570who dat?
>>500435713some slaaneshish harlot
>>500435550It's basically a knife with a better moveset yeah
>is a fast, low-damage weapon or a slow, high-damage weapon better at securing killsmade me ponderif they're the exact same dps, it should be equalI've illustrated here the collective damage of one weapon that does continuous damage, 1hp per second, and one that does 2hp damage every other second
>>500426307Exec Marksman'sMy scoreboards look like that with a head clicker build
>>500436449what's with the faces
>>500437423you replied to yourself because no one else cared and it's obvious
>>500435713our autistic gook vtuber queen
>>500437426jews infested my graph
>>500437929name? channel?
>>500433818Morrow's burlier than that.Hestia's cuter than that.
>>500438989That Hestia is PEAK cute Wifeable
>>500438059demonie and I don't actually know where she streams now since Twitch left Korea, she's just some literally autistic gook who grinds Darktide like a demon. No idea if it's even a woman since at least 50% of all vtubers are trannies
>>500435103What's the issue? Zola is an ugly motherfucker who barely looks like a human, let alone a girl. Most of the Darktide cast look horrific except for Hestia and my husband, Kayex.
>>500433818>That MorrowOh I'm sorry.
>>500436449 you're not considering stuff like opportunity cost on aiming at somethingbig slow weapon aims at something: always a killsmall fast wep aims at something: the big slow wep can still take it
>Throws fish pellets in Sefoni's tank
>>500440589>What's the issue? The artist drew a man, gave him glossy lips, and called it a woman. I don't care if zola is ugly in game, she's still a woman physiologically. I've seen female cops that look like this
How the FUCK do I do the cliffhanger penance? This is my last psyker penance and there doesn't seem to be a good way to do it without literally throwing the mission to attempt it
>>500442037the artist drew zola
>>500441557
>>500442121No, and if you're pretending that the artists version of zola isn't clearly a male body and the actual model isn't clearly a female body (with a really really ugly face) then you are pretending for the sake of defending some gay tumblr artist.
>>500442063The smelter refinery is really easy for this. High intensity, just juggle enemies to the edge and start shoving + venting shriek. Any map with a ledge - the new snowy one has a ledge right there, and it's great for it.
>>500442063do it on finale of vigil station oblivium when the poxies are crossing the bridgesremember to have full peril as that pushes them further
>>500435103>>500442037You haven't met a lot of women I can tell.
>>500439434She's cute, but the real deal is cuter.
>>500442275>>500442297Should I be using unupgraded shriek?
>>500442682Am I as cute as her?
>>500442786I did, yeah, if you kill them with the shriek they don't fall off
>>500433818where's the homie kayex?
>>500442346>this broad shouldered drawing is totally a woman dudenoyou retards need to pay attention to basic anatomy sometime, this is some embarrassing shit
>>500444429Yes. I literally have female family members who look like her. You haven't met a lot of women.
>>500444060the artist is instead pairing a nigger with hadron, despite hadron literally swooning over kayex and having cybersex mid mission
>>500444646No, you dont, you just have the body equivalent of autistic face blindness. There literally is not a woman with those proportions on earth, and you need to check back into reality. There is a limit to the type of shit you can make up for the sake of argument
>>500439493She's on youtube nowLast streamed yesterday and if she ever stops uploading you can check her chzzkhttps://www.youtube.com/@demonie__/streamshttps://chzzk.naver.com/a42d62f7018d775e506affefa5b96aab
>>500444949Wrong. There are women like that.
>>500444752kayex is not in the market for relationships, not while there are machines to save
>>500443812I don't think so, tranner.
>>500444752Do we have any reason to believe Swagger is a negro? His voice doesn't sound negro.>>500445130Based Kayex disregarding bitches in favour of serving the Omnissiah.
to pig or not to pig
did someone say slop
>>500446780Not this week.
>>500446993I sleep
>>500445409no, his fingers are white
>>500444752swagger paints the area around his eyes black, because he's a fucking weirdoyou'd think he'd wear goggles or a gas mask if he really cared about preserving his anonymity
>>500444752>>500445409He's not black, here. It's black grease facepaint to obscure his identity, the same way that Batman and other silly masked crusaders do. Otherwise the skin would be something other than literally pitch black, and as another anon says, Swagger's fingers are white.
>>500433345Keep playing. It gets worse.
I returned to darktide week ago and now my arm hurts
God damn I NEED skitarii as a playable class
>>500448615This but felinid catgirls.
>trying to play with devil claw and get the hang of countering>smigger keeps stunning everything and ogryn keeps knocking everything downFuck. Also, which DC sword is ideal? Do they have different counter strikes? I've only used the first one so far.
>>500448615>>500448792ratling, skitarii, felinids.what else is on the menu?
>>500449017>on the menuVacations.But one can dream.
>>500448964IV is the most popular afaik
>>500448615Me too, or at the very least give us some fun weapons like hellgun and melta, fucking tired of how dull most of the arsenal is
>>500446993why not
>>500448615>Space opera/sci-fi game>no tech classfucking how
Just started levelling bolt pistol, i noticed it has surgical and deadly accurate, i'm guessing it doesn't kill crushers faster than revoler even with that?
>>500448615ratling is the next
>>500445228Aw...So you won't let me touch you to share your blessing?
>>500449713They gotta port the minion/summoner mechanic from VT2 first
>>500449281we have hellgun at home
>>500449017>underhive ganger>feral world barbarian>sororitas>ashwaste nomad>militarum beastmannever ever
>>500450078>sororitasThey're never doing that.
>>500449987Not the same
>>500450173stop rubbing it in
>>500450203best you're gonna get
>>500448964IV and VII are basically the same, they just have inverted heavy movesets and a slightly different push-stab so they are purely preference. The Mk I is generally considered worse than the other two because it lacks the heavy strikedown available to them. The parry special is the same for all of them.
>>500450668No, you sorosissies are as bad as fucking elfniggers. You're retarded and it's never going to happen and you should kill yourself.
>Genestealers show up everywhere as new enemies>Cults of other gods join the fray as well>Daemons are now everywhere, Plaguebearers, Pink Horrors, Bloodletters...>Situation spirals out of control and this one hive city and we now have to fight in entire Moebian Domain>We visit Endor like forest world, Kamino style ocean world, continental world, battle on ships in space etc on dozenS of new maps>To handle this situation Skitarii and Ratlings show up as playable classes and Grendyl makes a deal with nearby Eldar Corsairs and Kroot mercenaries>Each comes with a bunch of unique weapons from rad weapons to eldar shuriken weapons to kroot primitive weaponrySoonSo very fucking soonFatshark will deliver now that crafting is finally fixed and they don't have to rework game constantly. Now we will finally get some content.
>>500452184>Now we will finally get some content.Maybe after the PS5 release, which will take approximately 1 year to finish
>>500452184So soon I can taste it... as soon as DT2
>>500452184dare I say, only a fortnight more?
>>500452184I do wonder what they're going to do for the anniversary. Better not be another plasma gun...
>>500454341It's going to be Rinda Karnak 3.0: Forma de Monstruosidad la Caos and that's it. Do you rike?
how do you guys run voidstrike staff? surge? transfer peril? crit y/n? disrupt destiny or warp charges? scriers gaze y/n??
>>500454748Nexus, surge and crit chance. Second perk is free, I use flak.
Are there some holidays going on or something? seems like teenagers are posting during bedtimes
>>500454748disrupt destiny, true aim. You now have crit rate at above 50%, do not invest further. carapace and unyielding perks. For blessings, surge obviously + the one that charges faster, forgot the name
>>500458545ah to be 15 years old again
wait, dc is fucking broken, spamming parry makes you litteraly immortal in melee
>swedish devs can't even count to 5
>>500433818sovl...
>>500442037ah, yes its another one of those 'women must have giant tits' incels>pHisiOlOgiCalLy
>>500433818too cute for 40k, everyone's so cheerful in it like the artist is afraid to depict someone that may be mean or confrontational, even Morrow looks softened.Only Hadron looks on brand but thats because she's mostly one-note ingame too.
>>500433818sexo with daemonhost
>>500433818Finally, some Sefoni fanart.The rest of the characters here can go.
let me be clear: i agree with every tumblroid, minority, PR harpy, and communist. women are failed, incomplete men, and the more they are made to resemble men the better.
>>500458761DD doesn't give crit chance though? Also True Aim only procs once per attack so even if you bowling ball an entire horde that's only 1 stack towards the 5 you need for a guaranteed crit?
>>500460830How powerful is Sefoni comparatively to a player's psyker?
>>500461653nta, but she can telepathically communicate with the entire away team from orbit, the only reason she's not a mission handler on more (every?) mission is Fatshark incompetence.Instead,>Masozi>the barber>the cash shop vendor
>>500461653sefoni>oooh war is bad, doesn't war sucknot killed for heresyplayer psyker>the emperor is a rotting corpse and the imperium is as vile as its enemiesnot killed for heresyplayer psyker is clearly stronger
>>500462272>sefoni a pacifistdoesn't sefoni basically have an orgasm in the psykanium when she hears there'll be new "playthings" for her as the war gets worse?
DD seems hard to maintain as voidstrike since weak spot hits are a little wonkier and the orb has travel time you need to play around instead of just >Shoot glowy man
>>500461653Slightly more powerful with a different specialization. The PC is quite high end when it comes to combat, she is a telepathic/scry support type.
Speaking of voidstrike, what would you guys say is the absolute top end build for damage for psyker?
>>500463080definitely purg staff crit build if you are simply going for most damage possible overall in a mission
>>500463080currently, surge staff m1 spam with a quell cancel macro and it isn't close
>>500463248unironically loses to purgatus
>>500463241>>500463308tree?
>>500463461idk lol I just totally pulled this out of my ass, I never use the flame staff because I don't find it fun
whats the trick with uncanny strike with purgatus, just stack up blaze on enemies, then switch to force sword and spam push to get the rending?
>>500460404dude it's the face
>>500466525idk test that in svetlana's arena
Which tacax is the good one?
>>500468189trick question, they are all shit
>>500468189the one that was IV before the rename
>>500460671>if everyone isn't mean and spiteful every waking moment the artist must be scared of 40kIsn't there a Fatshark writers' room you belong in?
>>500468189they're all shit, don't let any telopop orbiter tell you otherwise
>>500468189if you just want to level mastery, just use the VII, it has the best lights for hording
>>500468983I know Fatshark is incompetent but I didn't know they were mean and spiteful.
>"yeah bro i'm on hab dreyko, how could you tell"?
>>500468189IIUse heavies for hordes, and spam lights to kill elites. If you don't have an autoclick macro, don't bother.
>>500462474yes. yes she does. sefoni is a bdsm slut
>>500468189theyre trash
>>500470017Don't talk shit about the best map
>touch the knife>instnatly become a crackheadI'm so fuckedup
>damnation>team is going normal pace>except ogryn>stays way back, gets hounded then sets off daemonhost>"I don't play with speedrunning teams">quitsWhich one of you fuckers was this?
>>500471706It was me. I was the daemonhost.
>>500471706It was me. I was the hound.Bork bork
>>500469856Thanks, that's what I want.
>>500470017Everybody ignored you last thread when you made the same post without the picture, but imo it wan't worth posting it again.
>>500452184>Fatshark will deliverAnon please put down the copium
honestly most of the weapons i though were shit weren't that bad, than again, i didn't use shock mauls yet
Hab Dreyko challenges new players and xbots but is far from the hardest mission in the game (when played on auric, obviously).>Clandestium Gloriana>Chasm Logistratum>Old Hab Dreyko>New Hab DreykoI'd probably rank them in that order, more challenging at the top.
>>500474190you've been avoiding "them"
>people shit talking the tactical axeAre you guys not using them on Zealot or something? Crit Zealot with the TacAxe is a pretty strong build. Not as strong as the op knife or DS, but still very good. It's just shit vs monsters
>>500474241I would'nt consider hab dryeko hard at all, they massively nerfed the spawns, you didn't have 2 seconds free for one scan before, even the escape phase is litteraly does by holding W if you win the bridge coinflip
>>500460671>40kids cant comprehend thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbuRDTZWjZM
>>500474190damn, i didn't how rolling litteraly 0 was a thing, shit's going to be painful
>>500474743>anon is actually rooted in place for the whole mission and has to be manhandled across the map by the friendly, oversized retard
>>500474190>he doesn't use the shovel
>>500476327the only purpose of the shovel is for kriggers to larp as le Kriegsman with their shitbore lasshart and poop shovel
>>500477207Seems you can't handle the shovel.Must suck having a disability.
how is shock maul in general? what weapon is it closest to and where does it fit into a build?
>>500481693all I know is that it has a unique blessing that turns your timed blocks into a full on parry
>>500470017what mod is that for the kill counter?
nice bullpen game dodger fucks
jesus christ. there needs to be a 'fuckoff console faggots' mod to disable "crossplay". holy shit they are sooooo fucking bad.
>>500486590You know they will never do that.
>>500486590Are you playing on malice/heresy or something? I only play auric damnation and the few console players I run into there can typically hold their own.
What's Tranner's opinion on trappers? Can he out-trap them? Are they responsible for making him a trap?
>>500487397damnation. and I keep having to hard carry until the team wipes. because these motherfucking useless cunts never fucking shoot any ranged attacker, ever. they will stand out in the open dicking around with 4 poxwalkers while 10 fucking gunners and a bunch of shooters and a sniper or two and some reapers form a fucking gunline on the high ground and mow the stupid retards down.
damnation is a completely different game on hi intensity
>>500488642now jump to auric for that 150/100 elites/specials scoreboard
>>500487397> I only play auric damnation and the few console players I run into there can typically hold their own.Are you certain it's not microsoft store players?
>>500488949Why would anyone use MS Store over Gaybenshop? Do they have ridiculous giveaways and sales to try and compete or what?
>>500488837I just wanna level my shit man I didn't ask for a 40 minute presentation on hell
>>500489148I think people just grab the M$oft pass, and that gives you access to a bunch of shit. I don't know how much it is. I refuse to interact with Microsoft store after all the problems I had getting the PSO2 localization to work through that shitheap.
>>500489148microsoft game pass is still a pretty good deal
>>500489148Gay Pass is unironically a sweet deal if you actually have the time or inclination to sit down and play lots of games. I got my nephew a year-long subscription for his 16th birthday and it's probably the best bang for your buck a kid can get.
I just got disconnected when quite literally the valkirie was taking off and got cucked of my lootI'm mad
>>500490060double check, I got a backend hard retard crash as we were escaping with the prismata crystals, and it wouldn't let me re-connect, but i got paid for the mission anyway. you might have been rewarded still and just not realised. I was still PISSED. fucking game just randomly dies for no fucking reason
>>500490060If you're at the end screen or even right before it and it crashes you still get your rewards.>t. somebody who it has CTD at end screen many, many times
>>500490414>>500490623I just rebooted and the game and my reward is still not thereI want to smash something
>>500487632Try aurics then. Mr PC master race can handle that, right?
>>500489148I mean it doesn't really matter that much, my point was just that ingame you can't tell if someone's a controllertard or just an MS store player unless you actually watch their movements
>>500490780consolenigger butthurt? got tired of being carried through the game in a bigger man's purse?
>>500490780not until I got my curios at 500 and +17 and +21
>finally get a space marine in Darktide>it's Indrick Boreale
What sort of build should I go for when leveling psyker? A bunch of stuff seems like it's only effective if you have the capstone.
i do not get the hype around recon lasguns. columnus v still shits on enemies way faster
>>500493308Generally beeline down the tree only taking detours for very good talents. Highest priority should be dome shield or flame shriek. Warp charges are excellent to beeline as well. I'm not sure I would suggest using smite while leveling because it teaches bad habits, or scriers gaze because it requires a lot of talents to make work. I'd suggest taking a staff you like, picking either shriek for offense or dome for defense, and then playing around with warp charges and EP to see what you like. Assail is quite strong on low difficulty just because there aren't many enemies, but BB is good to get used to because it's very useful if you learn how to weave it into combat.
>>500494216More ammo efficient and it feels like a 40k weapon instead of a cowadooty transplant.
is the autopistol good (on vet)? is suppression a mechanic worth exploiting / pursuing?
>>500494216Bullet (las) hose go brr. Anything that relies on hitting crits to trigger goes crazy with it. It's very good for psyker for this (quell peril on hit) and you can use the crit talent on vet to basically nullify ammo usage.
>>500494216It's similar power wise, but you have better ammo economy with it and recon las is much better at range since it's 10x more stable.
>>500494453Autopistol will always sit squarely in a "you can technically make it work" tier. It's overshadowed by the Vraks IAG in almost every circumstance, even with +damage on suppressed/staggered enemies. It just doesn't have the penetration or range that's necessary.
if text chat doesn't work can people still hear me calling them retarded niggers over vocie chat?
>>500493308suck ass until you get assailride assail until you get flame shriek and go purge
is "muh maximum ammo economy" a valid gimmick to include in a build?
>>500495569i mean all of that is good besides deadshot and efficiency
>>500491574If he's going to bitch about Xbox players he should simply go to where they're less prevalent. If he's not a shitter himself it should be easy, right?
>>500495717my thought process is>oh hey I have a setup where I'm encouraged to get a one or more ranged kills before immediatly swapping back to melee>stay in melee for 4 seconds, long enough to activate Efficiency and accrue the 10 melee kills needed for Ranged Specialist to activate>opening shot consumed no ammo and have 33% less ammo usage for what is presumably the duration of my ranged weapon being deployed before stowing it and going back to melee againbut when rubber meets the road all that may go out the window
Yeah, I don't know. Something about the knife just does not click with me. I give up trying to like this thing.
>>500496358which one?
>>500495569you're overthinking it
>>500496143headhunter + weapons specialist is gonna give you enough crit that you'll miss the stamina from using deadshot more than you'll miss having slightly more ammo and the lasguns are a little too slow to swap for agile engagement memes, consider laspistol if you're gonna go that way
>>500496385The original one. I haven't even tried the other one, and I don't think I'm going to.
>>500496647the new one is the "horde clear" knife with reliable horizontal swipes
>>500496709The horde clear isn't even my gripe with it (although it is one). My main problem is having really precise headshots that I need to hit when my FPS is regularly dipping to the 30s, sometimes 20s, during big fights multiple times (sometimes several if I don't get a dodge proc somehow) to kill elites. Maybe the animations are just tripping me up because I'm retarded.Also, I extra hate fighting Bulwarks with this weapon.
I never thought I would say this but I think Helldivers 2 has reached the point where its more fun than Darktide for me. Fatshark removed the locks but they are still so slow to develop stuff.
>>500496647>>500496358the purpose of the knife is>taking advantage of the unique bleed + crit blessings for maximum synergy with Zealots bleed and crit talents>being a backstab machineif you must use it on veteran then its purpose is using Onslaught and the various melee crit talents found in the bottom right part of the vet tree>can spam out more individual attacks faster than other weapons, meaning it achieves the 40% brittleness from Onslaught faster than any other melee weapon
>>500496515we can go lower
>>500497206of course helldivers 2 is more fun since it doesn't have a real difficulty
Ogryn might just be a cursed class.>when playing ogryn, everyone else is a retarded knoifefag who kills nothing and refuses to even attempt engaging shooters>when playing literally anything else, all ogryns are looooooooogers
>>500497912THIS. fucking so much fucking this.
>>500497676Now make it cleave multiple enemies.
>>500497676Helbore is amazing and FUN
>>500497912For me it's the blessed class that I did all my no death penances on because it can turn around any bad situation with minimal issue.
>do an auric maelstrom because i never play them>have the most fun in weeks playing itC-I-G is big fun
>>500497560Nah, I was running it on Zealot. It's one of two weapons I haven't already used a bunch (the other being the shock maul). I've run it with a couple different blessing setups, and I just don't like how conditional it is.>no crit; no precog+duelist activated = ticklemonster 9000>everything on = rapeman returns (again)Between that and the moveset being hard to work on my shitPC, I haven't been feeling it. Had a >600k damage game last game with it, and I felt like I was doing fucking nothing. It's so strange.>>500497912>play any sort of precision weapon on Vet>suddenly 2 Ogryns in every game>play anything else (Vet or Zealot)>0 Ogryns in 20 games
>>500497912for all the gunlugger talk, i have not come across one in weeks. its all club, pickaxe and shield heavy hitters.
>>500498227Does the unique blessing "hot shot" work how I think it works?>+50 cleave on headshots>now when your shot hits a head it will now hit several other enemies behind themsounds like an engaging way to cover the weakness most lasguns have in completely lacking any penetration
Oh also, fuck wanting to take Throwing Knives with the Knife so that you can double dip into Invocation of Death while grabbing IJ because of all the points you burn moving side-to-side on the tree. Guess I'm bringing a fucking flamer again like it's 2 months post release.
>>500497171>when my FPS is regularly dipping to the 30s, sometimes 20s, during big fightsHonestly at that point use mods to get your game to potato mode, that's no way to play a game like this. Even 60 fps feels choppy and makes stuff hard to react to sometimes.
>>500499147I have nearly 800 hours and have already long since edited my .ini to gain back frames. I'd consider play-doh mode if I wasn't already so accustomed to this.
>>500498317the problem is, you carry so fucking hard as ogryn, that frequently the other three, just go full retard trying to 'get kills' and crap. and they snowball shit into party wipes because you can't carry hard permanently.
>>500499304that's fucked up but it's proof that man will master even the most dire hardships
Braced Autoguns: why? Why would I ever use one? They feel pretty horrible to use. Also, which variant is least shit?>>500498789Helbore has pierce. It's one of the very few lasguns (I think the only?) that has this quality -- only at full charge, though. I'm not sure if Hot Shot also applies to the bayonet but if it did, it'd be a hilarious meme to use.
>>500497912I'm a shield/taunt with kickback chadgryn who can handle anything.
>hit crusher's head with TH >top half of his helmet melted, the flesh of half his skull disappeared showing his skullJeesus
>>500501248This game is really icky honestly.
>>500501248at least you killed him, right? at least it was quick?
>>500501563zealot finished him with his duelling sword
>hit gunner in head with heavy knife attackxD>hit same gunner in head with follow-up heavy knife attackxDDDDLast chance: finished
>knife usersamirite,guys?
>>500500062Laspistols also pierce, and so does the slow firing recon las, to match the heavy IAG.
>>500502967Laspistol is so fucking cool. I love that little thing. I don't really know what it does over the other lasguns but I love it anyway.
>Running around with mk6 knife with zero talent support on Veteran>Still get the most melee kills on horde mobs in AuricMan what the fuck is up with people?
>>500503206It's a quickdraw weapon you can put Ghost on, I think that's good enough. Brilliant gun.
>>500503206laspitols also have 15% crit chance lasguns have 5%recon lasgun have 2% I think
>>500504407
>ditch knife>go back to tactical axe>no longer feel like stinky doodoo man and have a really good gameNever going back, even if I did have some good knife games too.Also, how do 3/4 people take 600+ damage with a smitefag holding the thing down all game long>>500503224That's how one of my Mk III knife games earlier went despite there being an Ogryn (not stoober) and another Zealot on the team.
is the zombie coop in black ops 6 cool?
>>500505662>smigger holds enemies in place, so instead of killing enemies that come to them melee enjoyers have to go to them>when this group of enemies have died the melee are positioned ahead of the smigger>if the smigger has less movespeed than the melee and everyone holds w, gap increases the longer an engagement goes>eventually gap is large enough that enemies move in between and both smigger and melee get pinched if they aren't paying attentionIt's not uncommon for a smigger to accidentally "encourage" teammates out of position this way. Good players will be fine, others maybe not
>>500505662NTA>tac axefeels even worse than the knife to meI prefer saber
>>500506337Makes sense. I was doing a fair amount of clean up at times.>>500506364Yeah I think a lot of people hate the tac axes, and I'm not really sure why. They're hard to fuck up with and do really nice damage as long as you can stay in melee which isn't hard with their strong dodges.DS is definitely nuts, but I've been trying to not use it too much until it's nerfed so that I won't feel terribly disappointed.
I couldn't get combat axes to actually feel good against poxies and especially bruisers so I just gave up on em
>>500506676tac axes I meant, combat axes are goated
>>500506576Pick up mkv. That one is safe from nerfs.
hello /coopg/, i'm rich.
>>500498227more like helSNOREdumb animeposter fuck you
hello, im an ogryn playeri want to pick up a twin stubber but all these numbers confuse me and i cant tell the differencewhich twin stubber should i get and does it make a difference
>>500507240Oh yeah? Well I bought TWO sets of sloppa this month without even having to break my piggy bank, bet you're jealous.
>>500506576I might just go back to heavy sword if they nerf it bad enoughI hardly use it for boss damage and usually gun them down with the bullet hose guns
>>500507240hi rich i'm dad>>500507421gorgnum or achlys
>>500507343RUDESay that to my face So we can kiss
>>500507493this says gorgomum so i think this one, are those numbers good?low stability sound bad maybe? i dont know
>>500507421Generally just try them in the psykhanium meat grinder to understand the difference
>>500507421All stat numbers up to 80%, except stability at 60% since it doesnt really matter.That's it pal, you should try all 3 different variants of stubbers, you can freely switch marks so you only need to worry about getting a gun with good stats roll
>>500507421Achlys is the quickdraw one with ok range and damage, it's generally the best for gunlugging. The Gorgonum is slower to ready and fire but is generally the most accurate at the furthest range and does solid damage to chaff shooters and gunner elites. The Krourk is generally considered the shittiest one, it has the fastest fire rate but the lowest damage and accuracy and really piss poor ammo economy.
>>500508056thanks lad, appreciate it :)will try all 3 once i get more money>>500508171also good to know, thanks
>>500508236>will try all 3 once i get more moneyNo I worded it wrong, I meant that with the same gun you can freely switch marks, so you just need 1 gun and test 3 different versions, see which one you like the most, I personally go AchlysIt's easier than you think, if you have the resources to get it that is
>>500507556id look pretty dumb kissing a drawing
>>500506676Headtaker IV, BM IV, 25% flak damage, Duelist, and Sustained Assault should let you chop through them easily enough. The heavy angles are a bit diagonal on the Mk II, which is what I use, so that can screw you sometimes, but even then, I don't have any annoyance killing bruisers. As long as you have your stacks and duelist active, they're one-shot headshots with non-crit heavies. Scab ones are just shy of the one shot without Duelist, but dreg bruisers still go down in one.>>500506884Damn. No kidding it's not. I enjoy the moveset though, even if it is like half as strong kek. Do you stick Uncanny on it for armor, or just roll with Precog+Riposte as usual?
New game mode where if a psyker perils they turn into a daemonhost that targets any nearby unitsI already know it would be more cancer than is worth in pubs but it's a cool idea
>>500509503>a warp fuckery game mode>only psyker are allowed into this mode>peril constantly ticks up automatically (like ~1% per second)>instead of exploding psyker that goes above 100% spawns some kind of warp bullshit>that bullshit would include monstrosities, packs of juiced up enemies, various harmful effects like toxic clouds, etcWould be pretty funny probably
>>500508443i did not know thatthat is good to knowthank you sir
luv my chaos wastes
>>500509093Shred rampage for me. Not using it for armor while IV exists.
>>500509503not before we get a new game mode where anyone on a controller immediately gets permabanned forever and ever and their credit cards get charged 2000 dollars fine for being CUNTS to everyone else playing.
>>500510487Play Inquisitor Mayrtyr as a psyker Inq. the higher your perils of the warp get, the more wierd shit happens, from warp vortices that can hurt you and others, to daemons ghost or otherwise. its like diablo >3, except actually good.
>>500511714>Play Inquisitor MayrtyrI tried, but I just don't get the appeal of the genre. I've also tried PoE and Grim Dawn and Diablo games and I can't keep myself interested for longer than a couple of hours.
>>500512274they all are basically the same kind of game as Darktide except they have different perspectives and UI.That said, I agree with you, its strange I got into Darktide as much as I did, but really I'd just rather it be an MMO or third-person RPG.
>>500512274that's the ideal session.
>>500512514>they all are basically the same kind of game as DarktideNo they aren't lmao. The perspective is one thing, but the actual gameplay is totally different. If you genuinely believe Diabloclones play the same as -tide games, you may be the most intellectually malnourished fag I've ever had the distinction of speaking with.
>>500512648you do the same maps and missions over and over again to increment your gear/power and repeat that forever. In the case of ratgame you even have the same random generation of maps as Diablo has, its just in a first person perspective.They might be hack-and-slash/shooters as -tide games as opposed to point and click adventure games, but ultimately its the same kind of brainless game, yes.Its okay to like brainless entertainment, I too play lots of darktide and vermintide 2, I just also usually prefer my media to have a bit more depth.
>>500512536I mean I play for a couple of hours and then never boot it again.I don't really mind the build tinkering part which seems to be like ~70% of the appeal of the genre, but the actual gameplay is just too mind numbingly boring.
>>500507493>>500507430nooooo you didnt get the reference
fuk
>>500514129>5 woundsIs this Sedition or something?
>>500514215yes itw as
>>500512864The gear progression in tide games is lazily tacked on and the entire playerbase has been pushing against it, vehemently, since its inception. Don't even compare it to the cesspit of arpgs where the gear treadmill is the main (and only) attraction.
>>500512864>Its okay to like brainless entertainment, I too play lots of darktide and vermintide 2, I just also usually prefer my media to have a bit more depth.The smug-fag-ometer is off the fucking charts with this one. You really gave the game away. I was buying it up to that point. 7/10
>>500514339That the playerbase pushes against it is besides the point, they should, because playing video games that are just a gear treadmill gets boring fast.>>500514807Feel free to explain how -tide games feature depth, rich tactical gameplay, and/or an engrossing narrative. They're a guilty pleasure, and there's nothing wrong with that.
>>500406530>Darktide's anniversaryXP event and that'll be it.Maybe there'll be more goodies next year in celebration of 10 years of Tide.
>>500516678What makes you so sure there'll be an XP event?
>>500516731Sure? Nothing. But I like to give false hope.
>>500516647>Feel free to explain how -tide games feature depth, rich tactical gameplay99% of people get raped non stop on the highest difficulty
>>500437991they wouldn't do that
so do you guys ever post lobbies or some other way of playing togetheri need a big strong darktide gamer to help me ease into heresy difficulty and up
>>500518723If you post a friend code people will maybe join your lobby, EUbros I assume at these hours. Not necessarily a guarantee but I've played in fair amount of /copeg/ lobbies and the players generally range from decent to very good at the game. It's always been Auric Damnation though so not sure how many people will go slumming it lower than that, but there's no harm in putting yourself out there.
>>500519081noted, thanks friend
>>500516831Lots of players are bad at Diablo-clones too. Maybe -tide games are deep for those people? Its just reaction time to an increased amount of elite/specials and increased enemy health on harder difficulties.
>>500519515>Lots of players are bad at Diablo-clones too.That's different kind of bad. If you take one clueless person, give him an account with fully-geared properly built Darktide character and ask him to play damnation — he will fail 100%. But if you give the same person properly built and geared PoE account as ask him clear one of endgame locations — he will likely do just fine.
Assuming I have no dockets what is the fastest way to level mastery, as in would it be quicker to go lower diff than damnation
>>500520675quickplay damn probably gives best dockets. blow them on dupes of the weapon you want at brunt's for mastery fodder, consecrate to green, then sacrifice
>>500516647>They're a guilty pleasureMaybe for you. The only game I know that has combat on the same level as Darktide is Mordhau, but I've already played that one to death.
The time has come.Prepare yourself shopclickers, today is the day you die.
alright, Halloween is here. Now where's the event Fatshark?
Convince me to reinstall for the Halloween event
WE ARE OFFICIALLY SPOOKY
>>500523572If enough people play it Fatshark will see we like seasonal events and start adding them to Darktide!
>>500520675apparently you can use the Karnak Twins bell teleporting device, die to them and it will still count as 80% of the mission being done
Ratclick really changes once you start doing Cataclysm. I though it would be harder, but it's not. It's largely easier in some ways like you can actually build THP reliably. In Legend the fire wizard either removes the map or just straight up dies, in Cata having that AOE damage is actually helpful and doesn't kill the enemy so fast it deprives you of things to build THP with.And people don't run around like headless chickens because the horde is strong enough to squish everyone together into one location, while in Legend you get people who kill their way through the horde, end up in some weird ass place and die.Idk, I should have started playing like this sooner.>>500523572Fuck off we're full.
>>500524017take the cata twitch pill, anonit's like the edge of the cliff before you plunge into the bottomless abyss of darkness that is dwons
>>500524097>cata twitchI keep hearing people mention this but I don't know what it is.
How is the bolter on vet without ex stance? I don’t like giving up shout when playing with randoms but I see every bolter set up use ex stance for it
>>500524172put "watchmeforever" or any one of those 24/7 stat streamsload a game through quickplay or custom gamehave fun
>>500524254It's good on every build. Switch time is really not that big of a deal.
>>500524318I might look into this on the weekend.
>>500524334Any keystones worth going for with the bolter then? Or just the usual spread out at the bottom of the tree to get the good stuff and ignore keystones?
>>500524172There's an optional mode with Twitch integration that some true masochists play. The gimmick is that at set intervals, the game throws a 4 option vote that a Twitch chat can pick, or a random one gets selected if no votes are cast. They do a variety of things, like spawn a horde of specials or a bunch of elites or beneficial things like everybody gets a combat potion or healing item. Playing it on Cata is usually an exercise in pain because the interval is set at like 30 seconds and you are just constantly swamped by dozens of specials, elites, and bosses until you get murderfucked.
>>500524437you can change the interval to whatever you wantand you can disable blessings and weekly events
>>500524172twitch integration allows your viewers to vote on things. so the ACTUAL way to play, is you have someone 'watch' your 'stream' and you set twitch mode in ratclicker to minimum times between votes etc. and you have your "viewer" vote for potions, loot rat patrols, and monsters. because a twitch monsters is 1/3 of a normal monster, and still gives you 3-5 lootdice. and since your 'viewer' is voting for so many potions and crap you jsut chug them like a crack addict handed a bag of pills and mulch through everything on the map.BEST part, you don't have to ever touch a single book again. you finish a twitch run with like, 30 fucking loot dice, (since lot rat patrols can be set to ['patrol size limits'- a gorillion] and each loot rat slain can drop loot dice too.) which easily gets you a vault. and your free red.twtich mode is really the best way to get quick smooth blender runs and get PAID.
>>500524387You can also customise how crazy you want it to be by increasing and decreasing how often the twitch votes come up and go through. So you can set it up to be a bit less crazy to when you give it a try and when you get comfortable you can let the fun begin. Twitch mode cranked up with the twins modifier is hilarious by the way, i’ve had games with so much spawning the you couldn’t actually move without killing something to make space.
>>500524567To add to this in case they don’t know, you don’t need any viewers or to be streaming yourself. If no one votes the game will pick a random option. You can just set it and forget it and have fun
darktide is HARDERstop talking about RATCLICKthat game is DEADno one is PLAYING IT
>>500524567>a twitch monsters is 1/3 of a normal monsteruuuh no?>and still gives you 3-5 lootdice.....no, anon?were you playing on recruit twitch or what
>>500524414Weapon specialist is not the best obviously, because it assumes you're gonna switching to the gun for one shot and go back, but the rest are all fine.
>>500524567Okay that's nice but I have the gear I want already.>>500524605I'll certainly give it a try when the wagie cuckoldry loosens its hold on me a little.
>>500524773>take a hit in darktide>take no damage because of toughness>take hit in ratclick>1/3 of ur life is removeduhh darksissies? explain???
>>500524414Left and middle keystones can work really well with the bolter.But I prefer to go nokey.
>>500524918I’ll have a fiddle around with it then, cheers
>>500525006>be at half hp>slash through the horde in ratclick>hull hp again>slash through the horde in darktide>still half hp
>>500525006ima be honest i think darktide is easier. And i think toughness is the main reason why.
embarrassing bait and self reply
>>500525252I almost got caught
>>500525201I have a harder time with darktide personally, sometime when there massed gunners and fire all over the place it feels like I can just get instantly shredded if I mess up a slide or get caught on a box. In vermintide I can always tell what happened if I made a mistake, but in darktide sometimes I can’t tell what the fuck lead to be getting stunned and murdered.
>>500520675>Assuming I have no docketsget +docket% on your curios if you're poor :-)
>>500525356That's because of the narrow color pallete and the glitchy sound.Everything looks samey on one hand and on the other some specials that are suppose to generate sound cues don't do it regularly enough so you get a trapper that just appears out of nowhere.It's not that bad when you get used to it and learn where maps spawn what from but it's definitely inferior design wise because of the reduced clarity compared to ratclick.
>>500525174I think I'm bad at ratclick because I have no idea how to heal that way.
>>500525691>take talents that say "gain temp HP on stagger/kill stuff">have full HP at all times in the highest difficultywaow
>>500525567I never really understood the clarity argument, i feel like i can tell everything apart at a glance. The only problem I have are trappers that can hide behind bulwarks and yoink you in.
>>500524862yes and yes and NO. cata twitch. a monster spawned by a twitch vote has 1/3 the HP of a normal monster as spawned by a map trigger. ergo you can smoke like 20 of the fuckers a run. especially hilarious when people eat pots from other votes and the monster gets nuked in one second.
>>500525691Your first talent determines how you generate temporary health.The best one is generally the one where you stagger multiple enemies with one hit, but this works on higher difficulties because on lower ones enemies die too fast for you to smack them enough.Which is why it suddenly struck me recently that the game doesn't really work properly under cataclysm difficulty. It's not just THP either, everything is seemingly designed to work on cata and if you play even on legend some abilities aren't very valuable because the enemy doesn't fight hard enough for those abilities to activate.
>>500525857>i feel like i can tell everything apart at a glanceNow play a moebian 21st modifier mission with a standard bot wearing moebian 21st armor that has no name above his head like a player character and count how many times you swing at him.
>>500525817I've yet to level passed 14 on Saltzpyre, maybe I missed the talents.Grinding ratclick is so slow compared to darktide.
>>500526015lmao that's extremely specific and has never happened to me, but I see your point
>>500525964The ability to block and push is far less forgiving in ratclick compared to darktide, too. In darktide I feel like I can chop away at a horde forever without even paying attention as long as specials don't show up, but in vermintide 2 its easy to just get swarmed and unable to get out, but I may just be really underlevelled.
>>500526060It's lv5 row. Thp on stagger is very good with weapons like mace or 2h hammer. Thp in cleave is good with weapons like greatsword. Thp on headshots work great with weapons that have clean horizontal attack (and thus can headshot multiple enemies at once if you just swing at head level). Thp on kill is usually the worst one.
>>500524918>>500525086Just had a play around with it and focus target and redirect fire get you just over the one shot body shot kill for elite gunners and a good amount of specials so I think i’ll just run that, feels like a pretty comfortable all around set up. Thanks for the help. Should I change anything on my bolter? I’m running flak, maniac, with pinning fire, and surgical.
>>500476327i just did, it's pretty good actually, except for killing litteraly anything that isn't chaff.At least hording is pretty shill
>>500525949that never happened to memino vote on 300% still takes 10 minutes to deal properlyare you sure you're not confusing yourself with grudgemarked monsters? they have 25% more health for each mark they have
>>500527029>Should I change anything on my bolter?just run whatever works for you. Pinning fire is good for magdumping mixed hordes. But using Puncture lets me hit 1 shot breakpoints for a couple of enemies, and it's extra boss damage as well. There isn't one true bolter to rule them all. It depends on the rest of your build and how your choice of melee and grenades.
>>500527346no. its how twitch mode works.
>>500524773>>500525006Why is the deranged ratfaggot talking to himself again?
>>500527493i think you play at champion lol
>>500527606>any instance of darktide criticism or comparison with ratclick is one (1) person replying to themselves
>>500527607no. that's literally how it works. even fatshit themselves say it. you are just exceptionally shit then. if you can't tell the difference between a map monster and a twitch monster.
>twitch monsterwhat the fuck?
>>500498227But is it useful?
>>500529298It can kill heretics
>>500504838>recon gets +2>IAG gets -2What the fuck?
>>500529415Oh okay. Carry on soldier.
>>500527107It takes a couple hits for the mk I, but you have infinite stagger with the poke so it's safe.The folding ones have a special with tons of pierce and damage.
>>500529415Can it kill bigger, more heretical heretics? Can it kill bulwarks, crushers and maulers? Can it kill hordes?
>>500530443of course
>>500530490As a gun or as a spear?
>>500530601both actually>tfw can't throw the helbore like a javelinso close to greatness
>>500530874But what's the gun to spear ratio?
>>500531178subjective
>>500531540>didn't answerSo it's like 9:1 in favour of the spear? Seems like a shitty weapon then.
>>500531763>>didn't answer>So it's like 9:1 in favour of the spear?that's not what subjective means...
>>500532154Means you don't want to say your gun is a melee weapon without blocks and pushes.
>>500532460it's not my gun and it shoots just fine
