The Black City EditionFor all things Dragon Age. Talk about the new game coming up, or the one you're replaying to psyche yourself up for Veilguard. Reply to the OP if you have an addition to make. We'll settle on an OP here in a thread or three.>Veilguard Offical Launch Trailer:https://youtu.be/NdtmtuzICOI>Veilgard waifu pollhttps://strawpoll.com/wby5Q602jyAPrevious: >>500287103
post some inqs
no zevran, no buy
Third for Shianni rape
>>500430547>the pollBEC chads, what went wrong?
Post Leliana.
>>500431197
>>500431285now post her in Veilguard
>>500430830Every lavellan looks exactly the same
>tfw haven't been able to disembowel a prisoner in a cage to retrieve a key from his intestines ever since DA:O
>>500431473simply superior elven genetics
>>500431285It's weird how in Inquisition her default facial expression is vaguely displeased and mildly disappointed in everything and everyone
Solavellan supremacy Solavellan superiority
do i buy veilguard or bg3i want to finish out the year with a fantasy game
>>500431649Buy them both, they cost $0
>>500431551That's because they aren't her girlfriend
>>500431486Did not see *that* coming.
Watched the taash scene from last thread and ohhhh for a nonbinary writer they completely butchered it. “If they say they’re sorry and move on they might not REALLY be sorry but if they apologize too much they make it about themselves but if I do push-ups it reminds me to not be a dick about it?” Come the fuck on, the best way to respond to misgendering is correcting yourself and moving the fuck on and trying not to say the wrong thing going forward I have nonbinary friends, I’ve even been misgendered due to my hair, but this is absurd, it’s stopping the story to talk down to the player
>>500431649Buy both Pathfinder games
>>500431486>because of veilguard we'll never get to see any sort of resolution to this important choice
>>500431838I thought it was funny how she still makes the whole apology all about herself by talking about pushups for 10mins
>>500430830Had solas magic off her slave marks later
>>500430830Cute. Makes me wanna play Inquis again
>>500431838>I’ve even been misgendered due to my hairI've been misgendered at the checkout aisle due to wearing the baggiest clothes I own then the person was like "Oh no WAIT your hair is too pretty for you to be a man!" We both had a good laugh and dare I say both our days were even brightened due to the encounter. I don't need to be fucking taught how to act by mental retards and I resent them trying to.
>>500432012Exactly! It’s ridiculous! Why the fuck is Isabela doing push-ups and explaining to me how to treat taash, this could all be replaced by taash saying “don’t make a big fuss about it”
>>500431929i tried the first one and dropped it when roleplaying my pc diety's canon creed made my character falli used to think alignments were cool until i played that game
>>500432054basednever again
>>500431838I’m pretty sure this was written when the writer had just come out because it reeks of those exact vibes
I'm legitimately disappointed in most of what we've seen so far. The dialogue is cringe, Taash is just a political mouthpiece, you can't express any type of character other than patting them on the back, and the reviews that criticized it as bioware's avengers seems to be true.As a long time bioware fan from the kotor1, da1, bg1, nwn1, etc days, I'm so sad. I held the faith even through me4 and da3 because they still had fun aspects despite the flaws and I think they're both better than people like to say, but even the things I liked about those games are gone if these da4 leaks are to be believed and are actually indicative of the predominant tone of the game.I don't play these games to sit around patting someone on the back because they told me about their genitals. Frankly, I don't care either way about your genitals. It's just not interesting to me, so I'm not going to play a videogame to hear more about it. You can set up a character as a mouthpiece for your real life genital troubles all you want, it doesn't make you a good writer. In fact it's the opposite more often than not.I feel weary. These leaks have aged me. I'm tired of the industry being this way. I yearn for the days when enthusiastic nerds are back in charge of videogames, and not corporate mandated politics. Even including politics doesn't have to be a bad thing, games and all art can be political, but when you're forced to smile and pat them on the back with no options, it becomes a movie rather than an engaging videogame. There's no challenge or choice, you are following the director's instructions.I feel like a fool, but I'm going to give them ANOTHER chance, on the off chance that we've just seen the worst of it today, and the rest of the game is a fantasy romp about swinging your sword to kill dragons. The stuff people are here for. Some day, when the dark ages are over, videogames about the author's self insert's genitals won't be the norm anymore and we can go back to the fun stuff.
>>500432194If I’m all covered up and my hair is short, I get called sir, have been since childhood. i don’t get offended, don’t go “you mean ma’am” I go on with my day. I imagine it’s different for trans people who, depending on the person, could see it as an invalidation of their identity/them not passing. Which is obviously more hurtful, but still no excuse for that mess of a scene, it’s like I’m being talked down to by a minor on tumblr
>>500431649BG3, despite its flaws it is really a good rpg.
>>500432569>short hair>madamI don't think so, buddy.
>>500432267Oh absolutely. Heck, I know nonbinary people who haven’t come out to their families and still respond to their original pronouns/don’t insist on they. It’s like how I didn’t tell any of my office coworkers I’m gay,
>>500432569Trans people need to understand that validating your "identity" is not the responsibility of other people. The reason that being misgendered doesn't hurt my feelings is because I know what I am and this is shit you're supposed to learn in FUCKING KINDERGARTEN but it's ok to just remain with a fucking infant mentality as an adult as long as your call yourself "trans" apparently. Nobody would hate trans people much if they even fucking attempted to act normal.
>>500432446https://files.catbox.moe/ivszot.mp4
>>500433357Is it possible to be dismissive or negative at all in this game or are you stuck being insipidly positive?
>>500433524I don’t think you can be negative at all in the game
I bet EA is just waiting to downsize Bioware and use this as the excuse to.
>>500433357I want to kill Traash, ITS NOT FAIR
>>500433669They’re counting on an absolutely gigantic payday from the legion of gay nerds who bought all the other games a literal decade ago + rebooting the franchise for more cash. Unless this sells like gangbusters, BioWare is as dead as I thought it was over the past decade
>>500432446why not simply pirate the game and buy it later if it's any good? I mean, I don't see a realistic chance given that a tranny was the lead and the leaks are as bad as it can be.>when enthusiastic nerds are back in charge of videogamesthe reason why we're in this shit is because those enthusiastic nerds became trannies. If you want to know why, head to pol.
I preordered the game on Steam and bought the Rook's Coffer. I still want to play it but I just wish I could skip everything having to do with the companions and just skip to the parts I care about like how you could in Inquisition. I'm planning on at least leaving a bad review on Steam. The clips I've seen are too egregious.
>>500432446>when enthusiastic nerds are back in charge of videogamesYou have only a few years as a game dev before you burn out. It's not happening, most non insane people went elsewhere and the new material is getting worse
>>500434149>If you want to know why, head to pol.Yes, pol is full of trannies we know already
I can’t get over Isabela lecturing us about the right and wrong ways to deal with an accidental misgendering, saying oh don’t make a big deal about it, while making a big fucking deal about it. It’s absurd. She doesn’t sound like Isabela, even as she peppers in that she fucked the previous nonbinary character. Featuring the Asian elf talking for two seconds and sounding like an HR video. Comparing this to how Gaider wrote Dorian’s struggles with an attempted magical gay conversion from his father shows just how much the old guard leaving affected the game’s quality. Use characters to express issues the writer has had! But don’t fucking lecture the played
>>500434816The writing has really reversed huh. People hate Gaider but he wouldn't do that.
What are the odds Morrigan will suddenly look at the camera and say 'trans rights are human rights'
>>500435620About zero percent
It all seems a little on the nose doesn't it?somewhat like dragonflight did
>>500435620Zero. Even her daughter won't say that.
>>500435620Then I'd learn modding and have my warden step in and slap some sense back into his wife.
>>500435775Nuance and subtlety are dead
>>500435620Depends on how much money they are willing to give to Claudia Black
Taash doesn’t even follow the Qun….when that’s the one thing that could make a nonbinary character interesting in the incredibly gendered Qun society…the fuck…
>>500436463according to Iron Bull being a man or a woman is basically dictated by your role and has nothing to do with your "identity" since that's so not a thing they don't even use names for themselves. unironically Taash would be happier under the Qun
>>500436463Presumably it’s part of what she doesn’t at least
Does Taash have any character traits outside of being nonbinary?Dorian's quest dealt with his dad trying literal brainwashing to turn him straight, but other than that Dorian was an interesting dude who had a lot to say about Tevinter, mages and other shit.
>>500437654She likes dragons and is ugly
>>500437654We only have short clips but so far she’s not nearly as complex as Dorian. I’d love to be proven wrong, but all I’ve seen is the misgendering explanation scene and her talking about how she’s a little bit antivan, a little bit qunari and a little bit dragon, and that she wears the arm ropes but doesn’t follow the Qun. I don’t think she has anything interesting to say about Qunari society as a result, she feels very OC
>>500436392Given the stuff she posts on her socials she'll probably do it for free.
>>500437654Dorian’s dad trying to brainwash him straight even made sense with the story, as Tevinter is a hellhole and all that counts is magic, so everyone wants to make magic nuke babies
>>500437952>Kieran voiced by her son>Kier-Anna voiced by her daughterCute and valid
>>500437889>We only have short clipsYeah, and it's kinda weird how they all revolve around Taash's pronouns. I get wanting to shill trans representation, but you'd think they would try to show Taash as an interesting character first.
Every fade section sucks ass. I hate them.
>>500438237I mean all we have to go off of here are the rage bait clips people posted because they’re about that
>>500438496Except the one where you get to dick the desire demon.And the one in Awakening, if you take Oghren with you. His reaction is priceless.
>>500438496I liked the one in origins, but I only ever played it once.
>>500438237If there is any content like that do you really think grifters are going to be showing it?
>>500436463with these writers, they would have just retconned the qun completely
>>500438791Ah, dem heckin' grifterinos...
>>500438826I’m pretty they have
>>500438895What else would you call fags like mark kern, who haven't actually played touched a game in over a decade but have input on everything that releases?
>>500438791True, there’s an entire industry of grifters who will make videos complaining about it. I think the video is sophomoric and cringe but I don’t hate her for existing like they do. I would like to be pleasantly surprised, but too often creator pet characters don’t have the writing to back it up
>>500438826They literally talk about the qun in the scenes everyone here is bitching about
>>500439026Hard-working people that saw a business opportunity
>>500437654She's more competent than you are
>>500438692>where you get to dick the desire demon.Uh which one is that again? The one in the circle?
>>500439175>muh dragonI hunt whales -much more dangerous creatures- on a regular basis
>>500439331Anon, working in gacha industry isn't dangerous. The worst thing your whales will do is have a melty on twitter.
>>500439248In Redcliff villageIn circle one desire demon only acts seductive and smug but that's it
>>500439748Those dudes have tried to stab people before
GL with your triple A game about being gay. I'm sure it will sell very well. Great design foundation.
>>500439992and died of heart attack due to overexertion when they left their basements
>>500433357dead franchise
>>500439930Oh shit I forgot that. One of the 'rewards', right?
>>500440037I'd be happy if the game was about being gay. My favourite character in Dragon Age was gay. This game is about being the T word.
>>500440721gays are just trans people in denial
>>500440651Yeah. If you have high enough Intimidation you can literally just say>How about I don't kill you and we have passionate sex insteadso you get the reward and the boy doesn't get possessed later on
>>500440928>raping a sex demonGood times.
>>500442040Eh, she seemed pretty okay with it, so more like "domming a femme fatale sex demon"
>>500430547anyone have this clip with audio?
>>500442743Everyone is pretty content with being very outraged by the "muh nonbinary" talk, but good fucking lord those faces are so terribly designed and animated it's a shame that such glaring issues are completely glossed over because muh tranny qunari
https://streamable.com/2ret6alol look at this horse shit. It's one thing if a studio makes some game about being a tranny, but this is commandeering a beloved franchise and changing it to a game about being a tranny. Adventure and gameplay just a secondary design principle. This is propaganda first, and a game second.
>>500442743>granny tries to be helpful by neutrally suggesting an existing relevant term>xhey are instantly angry?????
>>500442743>oh I get it, theres a term for people like you in the Qun>WHY CANT YOU BE HAPPY FOR ME
>>500442960Oh no, we all know about the faces.
>>500443129>This is propaganda first, and a game second.Why would they do that?
>>500443129please tell me you have this one >>500442743 with audio
>>500442960those facial animations are such a massive step up from what we had in Inquisition
>>500442743tranny propaganda aside, this game just feels like the characters are about to hop on their iphones and make tick tock videos. It's abysmally written by absolutely vacuous people who put their own retardation as the basis of these characters' personalities.
>>500443356I don't have that one
>>500443306I hate her so much already
>>500444194>herermmmmm
>>500443356https://files.catbox.moe/0rx3xt.mp4It's on 14.50.
>>500444339She doesn't have a penis. It's an ugly woman.
>>500444339I don't believe in non-binaree
>>500432446>They have passed like rain on the mountain,>Like a wind in the meadow;>The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.>Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning,>Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?Our time has passed I'm afraid, the likes of pic related shall not be seen again
>>500444194>heranon. pushups. now.
>>500442743Replace "non-binary", "they", and "she" with Qunari words and it becomes 100% less bad.
>>500443490welcome to any fiction ever retard. all of them are self inserts.
>>500433669Good, EA might murder a company that actually deserves it for once
So how many hours until Veilguard?
>>500444610>>500444501Its always women who want special oppression rights, thought Weekes is male
>>500444439>https://files.catbox.moe/0rx3xt.mp4Why does every woman have a man's jawline? The fuck? What hideous characters. Even if the story was somehow good, and you weren't theme parked in every decision to play exactly how the devs insist you play (can't be evil or disagreeable at all really), I still wouldn't be able to stand looking at these gross people the whole time. Makes me want to puke.
>>500444938
>>500444501>They're not respecting their/them pronouns, what should we do?
>>500443129>you can't say sorry because you don't actually mean it>what if you do actually mean it?>then you're making it about yourselfwhat
>>500442743unironically she should have just called herself this, it would at least feel more fitting for a fantasy setting than saying non-binary
>>500445372Always a victim lol
>>500445293Neve's bony chest
>>500445021Fuck. Hopefully that's enough time to finish Awakening, and the whole of DA2 and Inquisition.
>>500445372This part was categorically insane. I get where they’re coming from, as I have heard of people going over the top apologizing and making it about themselves, but the “they’re not REALLY sorry” is like come on now >>500445427That’s literally all they had to do! And yet!
>>500444634Replace it with literally nothing and it becomes 100% less bad
>>500444543I am compelled to post the complete version because this aping of Anglo-Saxon poetry has more to it than the entirety of this Bioware slop>Where now the horse and the rider?>Where is the horn that was blowing?>Where is the helm and the hauberk,>And the bright hair flowing?>Where is the hand on the harpstring,>And the red fire glowing?>Where is the spring and the harvest>And the tall corn growing?>They have passed like rain on the mountain,>Like a wind in the meadow;>The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.>Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning,>Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?
>>500444439thank you so much. just wanted to make this stupid clip and get it out of my chesthttps://streamable.com/fn6sso
>>500444736>welcome to any fiction ever retard. all of them are self inserts.Look, you're too dumb to understand the point being made to you. If you are so vapid as a writer that you cannot provide a fantasy character that acts like a retarded californian tik toker, you aren't a good writer. I'm not talking about imparting existential aspects of one's own psyche. These people don't even experience that. That's why they can't write characters that don't act like leftist 2024 californian women with mike tyson jawlines.
>>500442743The mom was trying her best and Taash blew the fuck up at her, and acted like an angry teenager. I’ve already taken my umbrage with using the term non-binary in a fantasy game, the mom literally brings up the lore relevant term, but I guarantee this was ripped right from the writer’s experience. It can be harder for older people to understand, but moms heart was clearly in the right place and she was trying.
>>500445372Imagine if you were walking down the street looking at your phone so you accidentally bump into a stranger and say "Oh sorry" and they're like "You don't actually mean it"Absolutely unhinged
>>500446621>huh?>You're making it about yourself!>...
>>500446621I’ve misgendered a trans person accidentally before, called her a “he” in the middle of conversation, they still weren’t passing her. I went “pardon, she” and that was that
>>500446545
>>500446985What a time to be alive.
>>500446985>misgenderedYou didn't misgender anything.You just accidentally were caught fucking up in a roleplay situation.
>>500446545>https://streamable.com/fn6ssokek this is pretty good anon. This game is more enjoyable with a laugh track.
>>500431838>Some people make apolgies all about themselves>Proceeds to monologue for 10 minutes about how her culture handles apologies in a far superior fashion
>>500446621That would make a hilarious skit on some sketch comedy show
What makes it even funnier is that the average Redditor can't do 10 pushups.
>>500444736Yes, but most an abstract it. The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe tells a very Christian tale. But never once does Lewis just have a character start reciting the gospels and going on about the glory of Christ. You get the Christian stuff through metaphor.Which Dragon Age already had. The whole mage vs templar thing was already a parallel for fags vs christfags.
>>500446545Imagine being so Canadian that you're tasked with designing set dressing nonsense for a video game and you can't imagine anyone eating less than a whole ham, two wedges of cheese, and small salad because you're health conscious.
>>500431649BG3. Shadowheart, Lae'zel and Karlach are superior to any female (and NB) Veilguard romance.
I don't get HR writing. Aren't leftists supposed to be against sexualization and stuff? In the clip, the pirate bitch mentions a previous non-binary member, and then says how good they looked naked. Why is it cool for her to make sexual comments about a co-workers body in front of a bunch of other co-workers?
>>500430830>>500431632>>500432054>>500432229How are you holding up, sisters? Still hopeful Solas will get a good ending?
/dag/ is actually here, niceNot reading anything ITT yet thoI got the gameI'm mostly unspoiled aside from the fact that Morrigan is in it and that it's obviously woke as shit because how could it not be with 2024 BWI'm ready to finally lose my marbles for good
>>500432868It goes hand in hand. They can't act normal because they aren't normal. Just like when people say they wouldn't mind fags if they werent so flamboyant. Being a fag is a hypersexual disorder. They can't stop acting flamboyant because that is part of their disorder.
>>500449496I never had hopes for a good ending, desu. I think tragic or bittersweet would be more kino
>>500449496>>500449780Good? No. Well written? I can dream. bittersweet, like this other anon, would be ideal
>>500430830Modded out of the ass, but this is mine.
>>500446545my fucking sides lmao
>>500449560Oh you poor soulIt is worse than you can possibly imagine
>>500450212Love the tattoo choice
>>500450418Wheres the top scars
>>500450658literally me
>>500450440I think it's a pretty underated one. So many give their Inquisitor the Mythal one.
>>500450734I really like the Dirthamen vallaslin
>>500450734It’s me, I picked mythal! Had solas remove them, it was a dramatic highlight
>>500451207Good taste
>>500446615Honestly that they can't make up an in universe term for non-binary shows how uncreative they are. Meanwhile some Kraut DnD rip off even has in universe terms for gay and lesbian love. What a bunch of hacks.
>>500449138I like how none of the food is even prepared or cut really, it's literally just whole chunks with no dressing or anything
>>500451248Well my Lavellan doesn't romance Solas, so no removal.
>>500451495>even has in universe terms for gay and lesbian lovesuch as sin and degeneracy?
>>500450418>>500450658Sims 6 looks lit
>>500451495Yeah I would have accepted it more if they came up with a new word. Sera never said she was a lesbian or Dorian gay
>The arl came by the monastery a few times to see how I was, but I was stubborn. I hated it there and blamed him for everything... and, eventually... he just stopped coming.Alistar ;______;
>>500451685Elven love for gays (because elves are all bisexual there) and amazonian love for lesbians (coming from the in universe amazon order).
>>500452127The worst thing is they bring up that qunari word, her mom goes “aren’t you that, maybe?” And Taash gets super pissed. It’s an obvious stand in for real life “mom doesn’t get it” but it doesn’t work at all and she looks pissy for no reason even though her mom is trying
>>500452432He just wants a family....
>>500452432Eamon is kind of a dick considering he's been pushing for Cailan to drop Anora and marry Celine.
>>500452614>mooooooom, don't you dare putting some patriarchal labels on me
>>500431649BG3 and it's not even a questionKingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous are goodBG1 and 2 are goodDragon Age: Origins is goodDragon Age 2 and Inquisition are shit but edible shitVeilguard is putrid diarrhea that'll send you to the morgue if you consume it
I want to tie Morrigan to a flagpole and tickle her.
>>500453504all of these games are boomer vomit trash except bg3.
>>500455747I know you're pretending but at least make it believable.Why would someone who thinks the Dragon Age games are bad be in a dragon age general?
>>500456069>Why would someone who thinks the Dragon Age games are bad be in a dragon age general?Pretty sure that's like 90% of people here
>>500456069anon this is the next concord-like event of course im gonna be here to watch
>>500456069It's offsite cancerous normalfags mouthing off. You just have to ignore and write off trash.
>>500455747Then go to bgg and enjoy your zoophilia, poly comanions, rolling on-screen dice every 5secs, and more bugs than cp2077.
I hope we one day get away from people who wont even play these games using them as political tools.
>>500458664>paint a target>nooo, why are people targeting it!!!
>>500458825HOW DID THIS HAPPEN TO ME
>>500458664This scene is just embarrassing dude.
>>500458664A game as a political tool? How dare they! (I mean people on twitter reacting, not the developers who are the ones who did it in the first place)
>>500458945Optics dont exist if you just ham-fist your ideology down player's throats :^)
Is anyone actually excited for Veilguard? Game looks like pure shit.
>>500459023Where did Isabela's boobs go?
>>500459023>makes a scene and does a bunch of push ups to make sure the whole room knows how amazing she is>says that simply apologizing can make it "all about the appologizer" so she doesn't do that. This is how you know the devs are absolute vapid tik tok brains.
>>500459023Pfft, Isabela. The woman who almost skipped town because her own bad ideas blew up in her face.
>>500459023Why is everyone in this game dressed like a clown, wtf is Isabela even wearing on her ass?
>>500459287Im excited to play it 1.5hrs then refund it and leave a scathing, honest review.>>500459389For the last time: Large breasts an ld wide hips discriminate against the female staff memebers assigned male at birth! Stop being a bigot!
>>500459509Lords of Fortune wear clown costumes
>>500459287>Is anyone actually excited for Veilguard?Not for the actual game, but it's being released around election time because "stick it to righty" will create sales.
>>500459023>Isabela won't even mention Hawke because the game doesn't know what relationship they had
>>500459023Nowhere near as embarrassing at all the people who are obsessing over it.The annoying thing about these scenes aren't that they are cringe or ham-fisted, it's that they take away from any and all discussions about the game.We're less than 24 hours from the game and the only thing people (who have no intention of buying the game) are interested in are the same things that have been talked to death.I'd rather have every single scene in the game be that cringe if it meant there was room for actual discussion about the game, rather than obsessively hyper focusing on 2-3 scenes in it.
>>500459784It's an Isabela skinwalker. Same with Varric.
>>500459023what a shitshow
>>500459807I mean the rest of the game looks like pure shit too, I havent seen a good thing about it yet so these are actually the highlights.
>>500459807>Why can't people just ignore things I don't want them to talk about and talk about things that I want them to talk about?Honestly, as someone who had preordered this game months ago and is going to play it, kill yourself.
>>500455747kill yourself braindead zoomzoom they/them/it/xe
why the fuck is the only thing leaking the absolutely horrid Traash shit.shows us the sex scenes with Neve, Harding, or Bellara for fucks sake. Show us more returning characters from previous games. Show us character deaths. Fuck off with the extended troonshit for the love of God
>>500460345>shows us the sex scenes with Neve, Harding, or Bellara for fucks sake.lollmao
>>500460053>I mean the rest of the game looks like pure shit tooHow would you know?You've seen maybe 0.1% of it.>>500460057You can talk about it.You can also try and use more than 5 braincells and realize you're obviously obsessed about it.
>>500459784to be fair, Inquisition already had Hawke be all "neither Isabela and I like to be tied down" so that romance got already torpedo'd there.
>>500460345>shows us the sex scenes with Neve, Harding, or Bellara for fucks sakeWord is they don't have any.
>>500460474>you're obviously obsessed about it.Tell yourself whatever makes you feel better sweetheart. But seriously I think you should eat a bullet. Imagine being obsessed with people anonymously discussing a video game and their conversations that don't involve you not going the way you want them to.
>>500460474>god of war combat>can't control other characters>extremely easy puzzles>can't be mean to other characters>modern politics shit inserted into the story>Solas cucked out of the story by two CorypheusWhat should I be excited about exactly
>>500460870Don't forget your worldstate and choices are completely irrelevant
>>500460870shut up grifter
>>500460345Only Taash and Lucanis have a sex scene. Bellara is supposedly asexual.
>>500460870>companions have no HP
>>500461297So can they just not fall in combat? How does that work?
>>500460739I do actually care about video games, I want them to better. I don't want to just use video games as a vehicle to shit on whatever random NPC shit I've been told to get mad at.That will literally never, ever happen while people like you exist. I hope you know that.>>500460870You could actually have a meaningful discussion about that.I understand you don't care to because it's far more fun for you to shit on Taash and her scenes.>can't control other charactersLike here, you think not being able to control other characters makes the game bad?>extremely easy puzzlesOr what about this, what puzzle in a Dragon Age game do you think was genuinely difficult?>can't be mean to other charactersHow do you know that, have you seen every single dialogue option in the entire game already?>modern politics shit inserted into the storyNow why would you be mad about that in a Dragon Age gameYou see? There's literally plenty of shit to talk about.But since I suspect 90% of you don't even play video games, it's completely useless.Or, perhaps even worse, you'll simply regurgitate the same talking points you've had brainchipped into your brains by whatever content creator you watch.
>>500461447>That will literally never, ever happen while people like you exist. I hope you know that.You have no idea who I am or what I think except that your whining about what other people want to talk about in a place where you have the freedom to start your own conversation or just, fucking leave, is childish and retarded.
>>500461603No, I know exactly the type of person you are. It's painfully obvious.Cute that you think you're some unique person as you join the thousands of others to repeat the same shit.
>>500461725Now you're getting it. Continue your fanfic, I'm down for some creative writing.
>>500461368From what I've seen companions are basically extra skills for you, they are in the battle doing jackshit until you click their button and they do their skill to actually do damage or whatever. They can't die either.
DA:VG is going to sell exceptionally well, despite what it is. And that just makes me depressed
>>500461179>Only Taash and LucanisTaash and Davrin.
>>500461983Seems like they really would have wanted to just get rid of them in combat entirely but that would've been a bridge too far.
>>500461179Oh that is some absolute bullshit. They knew what they were doing when making that decision.
Who got the link for the leak?
>>500462274That's what sucks. I only hope people reconsider their pre-orders, but that's impossible at this point.
>>500463202I can't cancel my preorder but I will leave it a bad review with probably around 100 hours played because I always take a long time in games like this.
>>500461179You can't be serious lmao
>>500461447Are you retarded
>>500459807What is there to discuss? The 'progression' in writing and tone from Origins to this is like the 'progression' from the wolf to a pug. Veilguard is a vestigial specter of what it traces back to. It's disgusting by design, made by people 'because they can'. What else is there to do but look at it and laugh? That is its only purpose now.
ayo where's the pirate
>>500459023Oh, so it's gonna be THAT kind of game. How far Bioware has fallen.
>>500460870>RP as murderous psychopath>can only explain different ways to apologize for being a bigot.
>>500460870this is trve...
>>500446545Rook just sitting there all awkwardly sell it even more. And here I thought we had reached peak with Andromeda. But at long last I truly see.
That one dragon boss do look cool tho, degozaru...
>>500460345Finding the gay in a game and then obsessively posting about just that is the one consistent thing about this website
i feel bad for those who wanted a dwarf/fem qunari romance and got monkey's pawed
>>500430547>Offical>VeilgardThe typos trigger my autism, but I don't have anything to add besides that. Maybe a reminder not to spoil things once the game is out, but then again who reads OPs.
>>500465754What's wrong with Harding?
>>500460345There are no other sex scenes to show off except Davrin'sCharacter deaths don't happen unless you ignore the side companion quests, which most people are inclined to do, and even then these deaths occur at the very ass end of the game during the not-suicide mission
>Isabella, a character who nearly condemned an entire city to ruin becauseof her greed, is doing fucking pushups because she misgendered some whiny piece of shit
>>500465992Harding can also romance the NB representative in the group.
imagine romancing isabela and then leaving hawke in the fade, does she just not care anymore lmao
>>500466419I did leave Hawke in the Fade because Loghain is my favorite character
>>500466419My dumb ass sacrificed Hawke because I thought the abyss line from Flemeth would meant something but it really just didn't lolNot like it matters since Veilguard won't know if Hawke is dead or not anyway.
What gets me about the Taash thing is that her mom is helping with the tablet and giving information about the First Expedition, therefore doing something in the plot and providing lore, while Taash just screeches about dragons and pronouns. Meanwhile, she's the companion while her mom is a villain
>>500468001I honestly would not be surprised if Taash's next line was like>And I can't believe you voted for Trump, Mom!The anachronism and disregard for a suspension of disbelief is that blatant lol
>>500468001her mom won't accept her gender so ofc shes the bad guy
>>500469149The thing is, from the clip we saw, her mom was just asking questions, as she’s not familiar with the term, it wasn’t an outright rejection. The worst thing she says is she asks if it’s because the mother critiques her style of dress. Her reaction seems normal enough, not “I disown you get out of my house” and taash immediately flips shit about not being accepted
>>500469740Sounds like a self-entitled tw*tter user
>>500452678As a youngin I was always like Morrigan, just all "haha, what an imbecile getting tricked by the fade" because I didnt really get it then. The way its presented to the player is such a very obvious "this is a trick" type deal, that I never really respected the companions fade trickeries. Being the dolt that he is, he completely buys into the fade fantasy. His fantasy is simply his sister, nieces, and nephews. No big dramatic ma and pa he never had. Just simple family. Just family that cared about him, and family for him to care about. Thats it. I found it hard not to feel bad for him earlier today going through the fade, and him exlaiming that "This is the happiest he's(I've) ever been!"I feel like Alistar really goes beyond basic. Its not hard to make some random orphan character, but I feel like Alistar is... thoroughly explored in his charater. I love him, and could talkcabout him for days but I'll stop there.
>>500469832I’d get it if the mothers reaction was more extreme, and maybe there’s more to the scene, but nothing seemed worth screaming about, it was just “I don’t know what this is” vs immediate acceptance
does veilguard have any white male characters that aren't evil?
>>500470478Yeah Harding and Emmrich?
>>500466665this but unironically
>>500470978That wasn't ironic it was real you..you...
>>500468649Thanks now there’s gonna be some Venatori saying a ham fisted line like “Make tevinter great again”
>>500470478the pc
>>500471642God this is so abysmal.
>>500468649>I honestly would not be surprised if Taash's next line was like>>And I can't believe you voted for Trump, Mom!This game is so bad that this line would actually fit perfectly.
>>500471642Weird that there’s two “anger issues are nbd” issues. I tend to bottle up and explode and while I know it’s not a classical anger issue, I know something is wrong!
>>500471642Why in the fuck would a person like this be on a team trying to save the world? She needs to get a fucking grip and grow up.
>>500472042You literally rp as a daycare worker. Youre a fuckin tardwrangler
>>500471642WHY cant I be mean to Trash
>>500472302You can't be mean to anyone lol
>>500472302>WHY cant I be mean to TrashLook, you can role play as an evil psychopath, but even evil psychopaths will explain to you how using someone's preferred pronouns is important, and making amends for not doing it is the right thing to do.
>>500472302Unironically? Because you're a bigot, chud.
>>5004716423 options, but they're all saying the same. I just don't get what they're so afraid of. I guess it cuts voice acting budget in half by assuming Rook is never allowed to be mean or to disagree.
For Christ's sake can we talk about something other than that tranny or Solas in one fucking thread?Like, I dunno, what is the cameo from Morrigan? Is Bellara going to get a kiss or not? Is there any other cameo happening in the game?
>>500472686>you can role play as an evil psychopathYou literally can't, you can't even be rude anymore.
>>500473680Sten is going to appear and have his privilege checked by Taash so hard he stops being a bigot.
>>500473680If you're asking for spoilers, there's a compilation of them in the previous thread.
>>500473693>You literally can't, you can't even be rude anymore.Well there are lines to everything. Let's not be crazy here and insist on RPing rudeness.
>Yes>Sarcastic yes>No (rook says yes)woaaw great storytelling
>>500474105Looking that up, it seems there isn't any confirmation that Bellara is asexual?
>>500473814The arishok SITS down for valid enbys
Here's your spoiler
>>500474840Why is she ugly
>>500473680Morrigan got Mythal'd
>>500474941it's equitable
>>500474941you could lob that question at everyone in dav
>>500443129>They make it about them.>spends 2 minutes doing pushups and lecturing the entire group, explaining that she's truly sorry(unlike some people), that she's a moral authority, and that this entire display is selfless and meaningfulBizaare
lol
>>500475783Jesus christ how frustrating to even watch
>uhh chud, just don't use the top surgery scar feature if you won't want to. No one is forcing you.>Can I make a sexy Female elf with big boobs that you don't have to make if you don't want to>BIGOT
>>500475595The writers are child like in their insights.
>>500473680>Is Bellara going to get a kiss or not?She better
>>500475783[_] suck her dick[_] agree that only a bigot wouldn't suck her dick[X] WTF is wrong with you>Gee wilickers, I'm not sure about sucking her dick right now
>>500475783>They have concernsIs Taash not the only non-binary in this?
>>500476518Illiteracy is a plague
We call it pulling a Barve
>>500475783They should change the text with a patch
>>500476980They also should give Rook some goddamn facial expressions!
>>500439175Where's the option to tell her she's a cunt
Any leaks about that "last 2 hours of amazing ending"? I was planning on pirating this shit but no way i'm going through 55 hours of trash for it.
>>500477318You wanted to roleplay?
>>500475783There's worse language in a Pixar movie. To quote Rook,>Are you kidding me (you f**k**g f****t)?
>>500476518>Is Taash not the only non-binary in this?Obviously. They used a plural pronoun.
>>500477406All I've heard is that either Davrin or Harding diesGonna be fun to see that stats on that one if true
>>500477406Powerpyx as the ending routes detailed. The last fifth of the main questline is a gauntlet of nonstep story quests The short of it is it's aiming to be ME2's suicide mission. With locked in death of 1 of 2 companions depending on choices. Everyone lives/Some live/Most everyone dies/Secret ending cutscene if you did a collectable quest.
>>500477273too much work for Bioware
>>500461179A sexual what?
>>500477696I want Trassh to die badly
>>500477696S-s-s-spoiler tags?
>>500478142T-t-t-t-t-t-that's he vaguest of vague and wasn't worth the effort of me pressing ctrl+s.
>>500477696Killing everyone will probably be the only redeemable thing from this cast
>>500477872Means she's not into sex. There's different types of asexuals, some don't like any physical touch I guess
>>500477695Tranny shit won't be killable?
>>500478142>spoilers for the typical bioware formula from 20091-800-cum on now
>>500478714You can't be remotely disrespectful to anything in this game, do you actually think you get the option to kill anyone?
>>500477695Surprised they are letting the black guy die
>>500479045It must be self sacrifice. Black people are the pinnacle of ethics and leadership in all woke media.
>>500475595I can’t believe there wasn’t any pushback about Isabela hypocritically lecturing you. I bet they thought people would like if Isabela said it vs giving them another reason to hate taash
>>500479045It's like sending Jacob into the vents in ME2.
>>500479038People can die in this game dude. I get you don't like this and I don't either but can you stop bringing it back to the same goddamn point all the time?
>>500474840The fuck? All they needed was morrigan as mythal, she looks twelve
>>500479431>needed was morrigan as mythalkys
>>500479347It's just the typical rehashed shitposting based on hearsay from people with the credibility or validity of opinion equal to that of my greasy, bleeding asshole. I honestly can't believe just how many tourists we have parroting e-celeb retards as if their word is gospel.
>>500479431>she looks twelveDipshit.
>>500479431uoh
>>500477710I get when a AA game has shoddy facial expressions, but to see Bioware reduced to this shit is honestly bleak.
>we have Neil Newbon at home
>>500480392>reducedWe’ve always been here
>>500480513Somebody tell the 1st guy to put on a shirt
>>500480513>Literal who'sWhat happened to hiring actual performers like Keith David, Tim Curry, Lance Henriksen, Kate Mulgrew, Claudia Black etc.?
>>500481938buuuut we got Mercer to voice le funny skelly man! we won reddit!
>>500479627You mean your greasy gaping wound. Go dilate it.
>>500481938They killed off Janeway’s character to replace her with Claudia Black because she was too expensive
>>500482118>defending eceleb youtube marketers>inb4 they spoke again-Doesn't matter, every video is to market their channel to get click bucks. Stop posting on any and all of my boards you substandard thing.
>>500480513Who is Matt voicing in this shit?
>>500482661>>500482050the skeleton
>>500481938>Tim CurryIsn't he disabled and unable to work?
>>500482050>>500482661Have you guys actually heard what Manfred sounds like? He doesn't talk he just makes snarling noises.
>>500482752Yeah :(
>>500482903Nobody here has even watched the clips we do have
>>500483007RIP
>>500483260I haven't seen any clips of him I know this from the podcast
I'm about to finish my DAO download, any mod recommendations? I used to have a shitton but might tune it down a little since Denerim was unplayable due to CTDs.
>>500480513Isn't the dude on the far left an actor?
So how long until thread even remotely related to dragon age are usable again?
>>500485168Yes.
>>500486238when they make the next game and it doesnt have tranny shit
>>500486238when anons start waifuing the girls
>>500486238What makes this thread currently unusable?
>>500486238>So how long until thread even remotely related to dragon age are usable again?is Origins making a comeback any time soon?
Veilguard is now the SECOND most sold game on Steam. I'm confident it's going to rival Hogwarts Legacy...
>>500475783As a Christian, I approve wholeheartedly. It's high time that we rid of deadly sins such as wrath in video games. Hopefully this will mark the beginning of a new era, one in which video games will no longer corrupt the Christianity of the soul.
>>500486238The culture war is here forever
I'll fight for freedom, what about (You), /dag/?
>>500487416Wonder if the other races get a race-specific option
>>500474840Can you tell her to frig off and lock all the elven gods back in the fade?
>>500487416For ELVEN SUPREMACY!
>>500487416Total mage subjugation. That are the ultimate evil of the series after all.
>>500484812There are many hairstyle and costume mods as well as some cosmetic changes and environmental detail ones. I can't name any now, but look out for those.
>>500486920It's due to those pre-orders that can't be taken back now. Unfortunately, this game will probably sell well, but it won't be well received.
>>500484812All you need is the 4GB patcher and Thedas HD and maybe the HD face/eyes mod. Anything more is superfluous. You'll still get all kinds of texture pop in because the LOD is garbage.
>>500489594Top seller on steam is polled by dollar spent/hour, not from preorder. It's why the deck is 3rd
>>500477889my only worry is that it'll be impossible to only have her killed without inadvertedly also killing off someone elseit wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if ((Corrine)) and bioware deliberately made it so that killing her off also kills off Isabela or morrigan or something that guarantees nobody does it
>seething about Taash for several threads in a rowRent free.
>>500490493They would, I can see it>>500491217I already hate her so yes
>>500487416For money, of course.
>>500490493>also kills off Isabela or morrigan or something that guarantees nobody does itJokes on you, I gave Isabella to the Arishok and stabbed Morrigan in Witch Hunt
>>500491646Anon…
>>500491808Anon.
>>500489376>>500489718I just found out my old mods are still there since they are stored in the documents folder. Let's give it a go.
>>500484812There's a mod that enables you to see the entrails of the starving prisoner in a cage (among others, works with 34 NPCs you can kill and some party members too). Portrays entrails realistically and allows for severed heads to be planted on a pike in the camp. Requires the files for the... whatchamacallit, the Grey Warden fortress DLC where you get the blood powers. Search for "gore" on Nexus.
Alright, here we go guys.
>>500492334I looked for it and couldn't find it, you sure about the name?
>>500494618What mods you got installed?
Best ending guide is out and on one hand I like that choices somewhat matter, on the other hand it makes a binary choice now a solid “do you want the best ending or not” trigger which means nobody will pick it
Is Taash an internal sabotage attempt? All the patterns align.
>>500495195Um, a lot, the override folder is over 7 gigs.
>>500496370Didn't even use the mod manager to catalogue what's installed?
https://streamable.com/jf8cs5Is Harding still voiced by Ali Hillis? She sounds a lot more "cutesy" I guess. She was mostly professional in Inq with a bit of lightheartedness, this sounds different somehow.
>>500496268I genuinely think it’s a case of “they’re a creators pet and criticism was either not given or refused.” The Isabela makes a speech over misgendering taash, who sits there silently and doesn’t react, being sanctimonious about it while doing the very thing she tells us not to do is awful, as is not bothering to make a fantasy term or talk around the term non-binary, when every other DA lgbt character has never used the terms gay/straight/trans because it’s a fucking fantasy world.I hate being on the same side as the right wing grifters, and I figure it was written from a place of “this happened to me I want to share it” but good god it’s awful
>>500496747I did when I installed them, since you can only install .dazip files with the mod manager as far as I know. But that's the minority of the mods.
>>500497294Ok. Do you at least know which mod you installed for your Cousland to be dressed in noble garb?
>>500496967>Do you want to come with me to break this in?Break what in, Harding?
>>500497908I'll look for it in my DL history.
>>500443129And you were surprised by this before, or after, the top surgery scars reveal?
>>500443334How long have you been paying attention to the game dev space? There was even gay shit way back in Inquisition. Ever since gamer gate v.1, games have been increasingly infiltrated by woke activists. It's talked about all the time on youtube.
Are you being stupid on purpose? No anon is wasting their time watching some retarded tubelord outside of some underage tourists
>>500500209There was gay shit ever since DA:O (and 2) for that matter but that wasn't an issue because the game was actually good.
>>500500209It's a good thing people never lie for clicks on youtube
Transgender Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKTjzLVAx4EAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>500504378yeah the trans problem is getting out of hand
>>500504378Yeah, read the thread before posting dumbfuck
>>500504378disgusting
>>500434816I mean what do you expect? the entire dev team on this game are blue haired lgbtq freaks
>>500496967She definitely sounds more cutesy. I mean she was always a bit cutesy in her personal conversations but I always got more of a down to earth village girl vibe from her.
what exactly does bioware do uniquely at this point that some other company hasn't already started doing much better?
>>500505075They didn’t even have the guts to have Taash talk she sits there silently while Isabela yammers on and makes it about herself, it’s baffling on every level
>>500505861Schizokino
>>500503153Yeah Anita Sarkeesian was the best at that. Too bad people kept insisting she back up her claims. She could have grifted forever.
>>500504679Yeah, how bout suck a girldick?
>>500506246So now I guess I have to do pushups when I apologize to a troon? Guess when that's gonna happen?
>>500507043Only if it’s superior 2D, I don’t settle for 3DPD garbage.
>>500506816Jesus christ it's been over a decade it's time to get over the dogshit feminism 101 youtube series
I'm sick of all this negativity and bashing on transfolk I'm going back
>>500507598I'll get over it when the impact it's had on my hobbies has been excoriated from existence.
>>500508324The only impact it ever had was gaining relevance because you retards couldn't stop talking about it
>>500496268no, it's a self-insert that was further protected by the new project lead for obvious reasonsclearly it's accurate representation since insults toward it really ruffle feathers
looks like physical copies released early in australia. People are streaming it right now all over.
soulesshttps://youtu.be/ycUBNoAPwYs
Any word on if my girl Charter is in this game?
>>500509290Asking cuz I just finished Tevinter Nights. I think its nice that Solas spared her life cuz she asked nicely. Especially after blowing him the fuck out about what a bad liar he is
>>500444543>>500446463https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Lament_for_the_Rohirrimhttps://oldenglishpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wanderer/
>>500507043Only if the girl is cute.
I identify as nonbuynary, so I won't be getting Veilguard
>>500511851This is antisemitic.
>>500459807>Whoa, AAA release where the characters literally shit on your screen>wtf why won't people shut up about the shit>Whoa, triple AAA game where the sound design is like rusty spoons being scraped near a tin can microphone>Wtf, why don't people discuss something besides the audio>Whoa, AAA release where the buttons on the controller don't map to what happens in the game>Wtf, why do people keep talking about the jank controlsThis is what you sound like right now.
Is anyone really surprised about how bad Veilguard is? Bioware hasn't made a good game in what, nearly 13 years now?
>>500513646>Is anyone really surprised about how bad Veilguard is?Not really. But fucking themselves this badly was unexpected. You'd think they'd at least have had some internal meetings about trying to revert to something more mainstream by now instead of alienating fringe activism.
>>500513898>revert to something more mainstreamWell the game has been revised and restarted like 2 or 3 times over the course of it's production cycle. I bet they just had to ship it as is.
>>500513646And yet tomorrow everyone in this general will be playing it. So who won?
>>500514104That's grim.
>>500514104Just like with that Velma show, everyone ragged on it but everyone still watched it. It even got another season. People can bitch and moan all they want but in this era of slop consumption it doesn't matter what they put out it'll make money.
>>500514104>>500514320And just like Concord and Dustborn, which are both massive financial successes.
>>500514416Why are you fags obsessed with one random indie flop
>>500514104same with blizzard games, no one has principles nor willpower anymore.
>>500514104>And yet tomorrow everyone in this general will be playing it.lol no I'm just here to watch it crash and burn
>>500514576Small indie game of 400 million dollars.
>>500514737Are you illiterate, anon?
>>500515007No, we just noticed you specifically tried to conveniently forget the Concord part because it destroys your argument.
>>500515172>weCome on now
>>500514104Nah, I'll wait until there are mods to weed out the woke shit.
>no one likes being a womanHuh? What did they (bioware) mean by this?
>>500461447>you'll simply regurgitate the same talking points you've had brainchipped into your brains by whatever content creator you watchngl, I've seen "HR dialogue" phrase about a gorillion times already. Suddenly ShillUp became the most objective and correct reviewer and a pinnacle of gaming journalism.
>>500515831Nope! Nexus removes those mods like they did with Baldur's Gate 3.
There's no way there will be another Dragon Age right? I'm not talking about it succeeding or flopping but rather story-wise because Veilguard is dropping lorebombs and shit left and right that all the mysteries of setting are almost resolve in this game.
>>500517962Talking about story and lore ramifications before the game is even out sounds a little premature. I doubt they wanted this game to be a sendoff for the series so they'll obviously leave the door open for possible DA5. Veilguard is already a soft reboot in itself, kinda, so it's not like they even have to care about "lore bombs" that can be retconned 5-10 years from now.
>>500517962I heard they don't deal with all the gods in this one but at the same time people have been praising the ending so who fucking knows.
https://streamable.com/jf8cs5LMAO
I'm not going to watch these Trash videos anymore
>>500521094Same!Im just going to bury my head in the sand! that will show those chuds!
>>500521094Don't worry the people posting them aren't watching them either
>>500518507>people have been praising the endingpaid reviewers aren't people
>>500522102So they paid skillup to give it a bad reivew?
>>500514104I'm not. The moment I heard that only 3 choices carried over and they were only from Inquisition DLC, any excitement I had for the game died.I'm gonna let you all torture yourselves and find out how bad it actually is.
>>500521094You are going to watch Taash videos and like it.
>>500518507>>500522102the ending is out on youtube. it's pretty fucking bad. endless cliches and rook is totally irrelevant and they fuck up solas bad.
Insane how you meet taash and there’s a comment about her wearing the Qun arm ropes and she instantly goes YOU DON’T GET TO TELL ME WHO I AM she’s instantly an asshole
>>500531731>shelil' bro...
>>500530013Skimmed through it and it’s entirely marvel movie bullshit. Solas did not fucking deserve that shit
>spoopy textspoopyalso, 4 hours!