>Recent NewsSunlight Stone added to Siero's Treasure TradeArriet FLB - LiveSide Story: Auld Lanxiety w/ 1 SR Zodiac pick - LiveNew Revans tier Raids & T5 CCWs - OctoberRoadmap: https://gbf.wiki/User:Umikin/Timeline>October Schedule10/16 - 11/15 Trick or Treat (Halloween Messages)10/17 - 11/01 Alchemy Lab10/22 - 10/29 Showtime: Legend of the Blue Yonder (Rerun)10/29 - 11/06 Monscian: Act I>Future Schedule11/07 - 11/14 Unite & Fight (Wind favored)>How to StartGo to https://game.granbluefantasy.jp in any Chromium-based browser>READ THE FAQ before posting - It will answer most of your questions if you're new or learninghttps://gbf.wiki/FAQ>Helpful links - These links contain useful information like important guides and other stuffGranblue Fantasy Toolbox - https://www.granblue.partyGBF Advanced Search - https://gbfas.ioGBF Grid and Teambuilding - https://gbfguide.comWiki Advanced Grids - https://gbf.wiki/Advanced_Grids/gbfg/ Mega Pastebin - https://pastebin.com/xHkyQTy8/gbfg/ Crew Directory - https://rentry.org/holdingthebagPrevious thread >>500481147
>>500522627SHE MOVED IN
No galgetard ackouts this thread please
>>500522705Tell that to your Yukon boyfriend
3 posts in and Trooneraph couldn't help xirself lmao
>>500522743>>500522756I said no ackouts!!!!
>>500522671Leciabros Won so hard
>>500522671Very romanticI wouldn't mind if she actually becomes Gran's endgame in MSQ
>>500522846you sillyLyria is the main heroine
>>500522790Take your own advice.
>>500522790Nobody is acking out except that one guy (you), that's the pointTrying to shift the blame in a new thread is pathetic, just quit already
>>500522951anonDo you think he would still be spamming here if he could be reasoned with?
say it with me nowKINOCUTECANON
>>500522886She has done nothing except being a boring cockblock and now cuckquean. They can kill her in MSQ update and I wouldn't care
>>500523067>Both fgo and gbf have heroine that love to cockblockwhy are nips like this?
>>500522671
>>500523059She moved in!
I've now seen three people Sierotixing a regular ticketable character. Leciabros are truly the strongest in the world.
>>500523271HOLY BASEDI KNEEL
>>500522951You're literally acking out rn! I said no ackouts and you couldn't control yourself. Don't go shifting the blame now.
No maleringer ackouts this thread please
>baiting people to make his narrative realtoo desperateanyway sex with Lecia
>>500522671>>500523059Posting my favorite Lecia art to celebrate this occasion. I've been waiting for years for this to finally happen.
>>500522671>It's not fair if only my father and the others get to adventure by your side.So does this take place after the new main story update? Does Walfrid follow us to Estalucia?
https://x.com/jinkan0121/status/1851845118833365448
>>500523271Lecia is the good kind of main heroine trope. Just a really sweet girl all around. 10/10 would marry and breed
>>500523661it's over.....
>>500523661just homoflopge things
>>500522886>Lyria is the main heroineAnd I assure you, the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't give a shit about blue goblina. She can be the "main heroine" and that doesn't mean Gran can't end with someone else since they already confirmed the multiverse. In fact, Cow already won in a different timeline.
>>500523661Noo... not jinkan0121...
>>500523632
>>500523661>rank 1 in multiple GWsWe don't NEED dedicated players
>>500523871KEKAROO just grubflop things
>>500523632I wish SoR was actually about Enforcers vs Jew10 instead of the orphan town and mafia crap we got
ready for trick or treating grubbas?
Should i brick earth pns and resonator if i still using magna?
>still uses the old sprites in every appearance despite having new art since WMTSB part ONEWhat the fuck is up with that?
Why is she raping us?
>>500524037Nyo
>>500524037We dont do trick or treating in my country. We have our own similar celebration on another day, which nobody actually celebrates nowdays
>>500523632>>500524023What could have been...
>wiki still doesn’t have the omen descriptions for the new raidWow, this shit is actually DoA
i'm glad to have woken up to the leciafanciers getting some content, and it looks like it delivered. hope you guys enjoy the release, hopefully she'll be turbo powerful as well
>>500524415yet when it comes to updating the rainbow veeball and newest naked homoflop there's zero delayfunny how that works.
Koregra is tomorrow, right?
Hopefully never
>>500524738noon on the first day of the month japan time, which is today or tomorrow depending on where you are
>>500524540Thanks fren, I'm pretty psyched about it but kinda bummed that she's also Wind. I get that she's designed to be used in tandem with Monika, but I really wish I can have more Lecia being used in multiple elements, because right now there's 4 Wind Lecias, and only one Water. I'm still pretty happy though, even thinking about getting Rhompaia to really go all in to her mechanics.
Take into consideration she practically doesn't have seasonals.Someday we'll get Valentine/Christmas/Halloween/Yukata Lecia in different elements.
I SHOULD'VE SPARKED HALLOWEEN FUCKING HELL
>>500525624>G.Lecia>2016-10-31>Lecia (Water)>2020-02-29>Lecia (SSR Wind)>2024-10-31Maybe someday...
>>500525442yeah that makes sense, sometimes they really like keeping characters in their elements and sometimes they do the opposite, it's odd... rhomp wouldn't be a bad idea, that's my plan as well with hrunt secured, and it always feels great to pick things based on your favorite
>shAIDS>HIVey>HIVraph>Ledouche>PadjeetaThe five bug chasing 'roons of /gbfg/
So nobody released between Valentine's Day and Halloween got their seasonal lines restarted?
third time's a charm
>>500524203can't rape the willing
>>500524203>Can't get this cus don't have the moon bonus pose>Gotta wait for it to roll around again laterWhy the fuck did they tie the new lines to that instead of the uncap?
I wish the Monscian was about the Enforcer Crew efficiently destroying a bandit island.
can they ever make an outfit cooler than honing seeker nova?
>>500525714why? you know there's a gacha gauntlet in two months right?
>>500524203Post the rest please, I have a mighty need for Haasex lines
A "still gets seasonal lines" filter would be nice, especially since the number of characters who still get them is getting smaller and smaller...
>>500528447rape
Even with all the homoflop releases this year Y. De La Floppyroon still manages to be the most rooncoded release
Mr Paneflop 0 fanart 0 revenue 0 sparks 0 usage 0 relevance 0 cultural impactMr Pillflop 0 fanart 0 revenue 0 sparks 0 usage 0 relevance 0 cultural impact
>>500529109Trvke
https://x.com/lawzanid/status/1851938713238171771
Add lecia to the shilled flop list
Uh oh maleringeroon melty
>Add lec-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
/gbfg/ hard to swallow pill
>>500529717Why are they blushing so hard tho?
I might have to impulse roll…
>>500529982Your Lecia reserve spark?
The thread is so fucking dead, man. Just get to it and do your job already maleringeroons. This thread needs a bump.
>>500530337maleringeroons flopped just like their homoflops
https://x.com/Emiryun_pic/status/1851941009179238432/ourgirl/ went all out! I hope she didn't strain herself too much...
grubbas are fucked in the head
>>500530409LMAO
>>500530337there's nothing to do but doompost, thread is better off kinda dead desu just leave it dormant and return whenever a new event comes around.
>>500529265KINO
https://x.com/zacoketo/status/1851930381647294945Cantate Candy
Summoning schizos@Shay @shAIDS @foxcuck @poopnugget @sandalfaggot @Cuckey @HIVey @homos @faggots @troons @maleringers @HIVringers @metaposters @troongelfaggots @150schizo @308schizo @Momoi @Umaschizo @Numpers @Cantateposters @Trooneraph @Homoraph @LRaph @Fleetcucks @Fleetcord @Padjeeta
>>500530746t. ledouche
>>500530337the game is in maintenance mode, not much to be excited about.
>>500530867but we just got a new event??????
>>500530746>like 5 names tops/gbfg/ has had more schizos that were more famous
>>500530951events only get talked about here if they have dumb shit in them like breedability lore updates or loli bread whoring.
>Pant... Pant...
>>500530337I'd rather let it be dead than whatever the fuck that previous thread wasLiterally one schizo sperging out for 3-4 hours straight
Thankfully he is on his 4 hour break
>>500531093Those people don't come here anymorePatrick Hoban moved on to Yugioh and Marie is into Uma now
>>500531408>Those people don't come here anymoreWhy the fuck do you think we're summoning them?
>>500531408>even female players would rather play uma than stay ina this homofaggot gameJUST
>>500530951It was forgettableSo is the new CCW revans
IT'S BEEN 2 DAYS WHY THE FUCK THE CCW RAID STILL FILL UP INSTANTLY!?
>>500531535KEKYPOW just grubflop things
>>500531636Hosts are really scarce so people jump to any raid that does get hosted
Expect more schizo meltdowns on otherwise dead threads if November koregra doesn't have anything of note
I miss Shaygod, galleonschizos, and JJKgalgegawd.
>>500531927>collab>GW>uncap>filler events>definitely no MSQwallahi /gbfg/ is finished
>>500531267>Literally one schizo sperging out for 3-4 hours straightJust lil L things
I miss Huangyume and Sandalhomo
Honestly the worst part of this place is that no matter what you post a schizo will be at the ready to sabotage your attempt at conversation with their preffered agenda with no self-awareness whatsoever.There's a reason no one wants to post here and it's not the game's fault.
I miss Alex
>>500522671>lost to a fucking cat>lost to her own fatherwhy are for (You) girls like this
Nov koregra won't have anything of note. we're in November now which means New Year's stream is right around the corner and cygames will save & scrimp together every bit of upcoming future content (no release date) they can muster for that stream. at best they'll talk about the Slime collab
>>500532227I don't
>>500532259not sure about that m8https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/487866849/#487870708
Why are they shipping Karva with Mr. Pilnas?
Bros....FKHR looks so normal now....
State of the game do be reflected by the state of the general
>>500532518Which one of these is shadowP
>>500532332>Mr Pimuru struggling to escape the galge
>>500532579the one in the middle
>>500532518>tfw lecia moved in behind my back
>>500532518>skrillex hair and kinpatsu was just a phasealmost looks like that pic of him next to HRT in the early days
>>500532518Why’s Mr. Pubei there?
>>500532836wants to make a contract with you to make you a magical girl
savage
>no one wants to post here because of le schizoSo where do you go for your grub discussion? your shitty crewcord that will probably discuss the game for an hour at most? all gbf-related hubs are dead, including reddit, gbf.wiki discord, etc. The hard truth is that nobody cares about this game anymore, but you just don’t want to admit it.
>>500533078KEKAROO
>L*cia>W*ll>Gnarm on rate up despite everyone having herI really wanted to spark...
he's right, /gbfg/ is a dumping ground for other generals schizos that dont get attention from their peers
is it okay to leech rage of super ultimate bahamut? i need 20 blue things for my MLB ultima weapon
>>500533087nywell…SHYUT UP
>>500533306I host leeched mine, difficult to find enough people for it in /gbfg/ now though. Especially with schizos sabotaging it.
>>500533087>So where do you go for your grub discussion?why would anyone with a brain tell in a place like this lol
>>500533443>Especially with schizos sabotaging it.Have to do it during the 3 hours Trooneraph is sleeping
The new event is too boring to spark any discussionThere was shock value to how weird the characters look and that's it
>>500533087My crewcord is dead. I think some are just coasting til crew leadership calls it quits so they can all just follow suit.
>Give up on GBF because Lecia wasnt getting any content so I stopped saving shit>Lecia gets an altRip me
>>500533603Pretty much the same here. It's only somewhat active during GW, outside that we barely talk and if we do it's mostly about something unrelated to GBF
>>500533306If there's a janny, go ahead, but do your best. the raid is a piece of cake these days now that people are just fa'ing it.
>>500533603>>500533740nywell…
I thought this was going to be a second Halloween banner. Why does the game need 5 summer banners a year but halloween on halloween.
>>500533595monscian discussion barely exists even on xitter
It was a bad event that was extremely pozcoded. Danchou barely did anything and had no lines with Lecia.
>>500532518>pic related was real>fkhr had to straighten out (literally)
>>500533595>>500533923Nobody has any reason to care about filler island full of SMT and FFXV rejects.
Can you skip the new raid boss' stance change omens? Or does it still go through all of them, if you resume after 20%?
>>500533595>There was shock value to how weird the characters lookAlso the 100 severed heads thing (I guess we're lucky no important character was among them)
back to doomposting again?
>>500534116We are talking about the gameIf you feel the need to dismiss that as doomposting then it's your problem
You now remember SSR Mr. Pill
>>500534058I'll be honest I have no idea what he does I just mash until I reach 4-6 mil honors
>>500534061That scene made me think this event would be super edgy, surprisingly it was tame as hell outside of that specific scene
>>500534383The torture wasn't edgy?
Do people still bring Mr. Pight to the new raid and brick it or has everyone rightfully made the switch to Dark?
>>500532518>the most popular characters have always been draphs>this year in particular, it got even more lopsided despite the massive human campaign>even in relink, they kept shitting out the usual ppects like song and pfon, and people only ask for the crazy midget>pl-puris purcheis ow nekusuto human vazazu rur-ACK!!!!
>>500534047>SMT and FFXV rejectsThought I was the only one who thought they looked like that.
>>500534473Nope it fits the setting and wasn't anything outlandishly gritty. Edgy is something like Ferninand eating people calmly and Manamel nonchalantly talking about her parents hanging themselves
draphs
https://x.com/scr_pad/status/1851957369561043311Final update from the laziest grubber
>>500534505The latter it seemsI am seeing less and less light players in the raid
>>500534731It's the weirdass hairstyles and predominantly black clothes. Definitely does not belong in grub, they made a point that Agartha was isolated for years but Edgelands is the same yet none of its characters looked like other game rejects
>>500535363I think their strange looks has more to do with their monster flesh consumption and whatever was surrounding the island
>>500533595>the inhabitants of this island are dangerous>they uhhh ate monsters and beheaded 100 NPCseven freesia was more threatening than that
>>500535363Worst part for me is that each character is stylistically very different from one another like they don't even belong on the same Island.Feels like they couldn't decide how they wanted them to look or had multiple people in designing the npcs.
Not a cuck but I’d love to see Funf get fucked by other men.
>>500535676AIs are known to generate incoherent designs
harvinflop stay what?
>>500535893KEKYPOW
>>500535924>Industrial wastekek
>AII almost forgot tomorrow is already November yet graphic archive is nowhere to be seen
>>500535924>Industrial wasteBASED BASED BASED
>>500535924Why can't NAs have total damage shown like skill damage and ougis? I can't read this shit.
>>500536185small indie company please understand
>>500535676>Worst part for me is that each character is stylistically very different from one anotherWhich doesn't fit the totalitarian regime they live in.
It's a shame because I liked Will, but he's releasing so late now he's just another maleflop
>>500536185you wirr rike birrion numba on screen yes?
>Wake up>Dark solo'd hexa>Fediel, as always, on the team9.8 btw
Nobody’s buying my account…
>>500536628It's a numbers go brr game, having the total damage clearly shown somewhere would be nice, though.
Good mornigdayevening, /gbfg/.I just wanted to say that Will and Lecia both look pretty cool. Will is basically C. Rosetta 2.0 (after her rebalance way back when). Looks like he could be pretty good for survivability, buff/debuff resilience and even some damage. Lecia looks pretty interesting, too. Is she supposed to push Naru more into relevance again with her passive. Might deal and help deal quite a bit damage, too. Maybe a bit slow but we'll see.Okay, bye.
>>500536730speaking of which...>/gbfg/ said Onmyoji sucks>/gbfg/ said Yuni sucks>/gbfg/ said Hallessena sucks>/gbfg/ said Lich is core >/gbfg/ said Nier is core>/gbfg/ said Orologia is coreMany... REALLY many such cases
https://youtube.com/live/gnFKAAe94R8
>>500537053...doesn't count?
>>500537053They suck because they don't see use outside of specific cases, in this case Hexa solo
>>500537053just /gbfg/ things
>>500537053How can Fediel just abandon Lich like that...
where do I talk about relink
>>500538026/gbfr- errr... just go to /v/
>the Vatican mascot has gotten more art in 72 hours than grub has gotten in 3 monthsGrim
>>500538171I think the Vatican has bigger reach than gayblue
>>500538171you mean the pope?
>>500538026>>500538093Pretty sure /v/ has had multiple Grub/Relink threads recently, probably thanks to the sales. You could also try to resurrect the general ;^)
>>500538026You can talk about it here
>>500538393We found out several days ago that those threads were made by /gbfg/gers and filled by them alsoWhich is why they get linked here every so often
You now remember Abramelin
i just started rolan is literally me
Lecia is pretty fertile
https://litter.catbox.moe/f1yjdh.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/aithkm.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/2wpmsd.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/2bsq91.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/ff4llj.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/6k4ccf.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/fglovc.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/qopck5.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/8b4bq6.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/b5l1ts.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/dcpb5g.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/f8b82e.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/4m44q3.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/o42v38.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/1ymcln.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/tajqkq.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/40dl8i.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/qb4nlc.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/fc59e5.jpg
>>500538316I’ve never heard of it before Luce. Pretty sure even Raiden had higher pixivbux before this too.
https://litter.catbox.moe/e6n5cl.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/dwngl0.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/g7tz7u.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/un0pvt.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/cp9ao9.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/v1j6dg.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/oskg62.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/kwe3aa.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/16kzxs.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/oih434.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/w8k1ww.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/004rzi.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/c1wula.gif
>>500538926>I’ve never heard of itone of my favorite bits, I laugh every time
>>500522671Love me some romantic fate episodes. Much prefer fates like this instead of pornbaits we're getting lately...
>>500538926Well duh
>>500538926>if I'VE never heard of it then it's not popular
Just had a triple flusher Mr. P. Even had to reach in and break it apart with my hand to help it go down.
>>500522671KINO
>>500538926very funny anon here's your (You)
>>500533848japan knows Halloween exists but doesn't see the point. They cosplay whenever they feel like, why do gaijin need a specific set date to cosplay?
>main heroine>romantic interactions are non-existent>10th anni skin without an SSR unit paired with fucking Shillcelot
>>500539574We hate la goblina de azul around here
>>500539574>no SSR>meanwhile sandalflop:
>>500539574I had completed forgotten that Lancelot got the 10th anni skin. What a joke
>>500539631No, we hate the tokage here
>>500539574*main antagonist
>>500539574Not for (You) anymore. Is maid onahole now.
Lyria is a tool of Bahamut and should be treated as such. Vyrn broke out of his role as a tool of Bahamut and should be treated with respect
>>500539826Not for (Freedom) anymore. Is trangel onahole now.
>>500539826So if in the end of MSQ we kill Lyria and side with Vee, will he be a good bro and make interspecies breeding possible?
>>500539826We love Bahamut though
Great previous thread grubbers!
>>500540073Vee becomes Super Ultimate Bakamutt Vee-kun and you get one wish from your bro.What are (You) wishing for?
>>500537053aw yis, my favorite angel sluts
>>500540280Year of Tyra alts.
>new revan coops already clearing sub 1 minuteWhat an amazing content
I unironically think they'll release the main story update in November
>>500540493>I unironically thinkNo, you don't.
Any reason to roll for Mr. Pecia and Mr. Pill?
>>500540636Huangyume says this
>>500540637Sorry, I don't know who you are talking about.
>>500540636What is Mr Puwa doing here
https://x.com/waaaaaa_i/status/1851957454088687809Finally, some REAL art!
>please draw the gacha for our hum>die, disgusting tranny>m-ACK!!!
Mr. Puni is basically Mr. Paa
canon
>>500540636there is nobody to smooch him anymore here...
>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>Raid dead>New raid>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attack>guard everyone but MC>attackHow other gachas can compete with a gameplay like this?
>>500537053this post is kinda stupid
>>500541107Nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to play dirt
Mr. Puria flopMr. Parth flop
Is there anyone who can even possibly EVEN TOUCH Lecia? Let alone defeat her. And I'm not talking about SR Lecia who just joined the crew. I'm not talking about SSR Lecia either. Hell, I'm not even talking about the Captain of the Enforcers Lecia who made peace with her father's heritage after out-hayaii-ing Gandharva and with her big tited senpai and the Enforcers' force at her command. I'm not even daring to waste your time by speaking of SSR Lecia with her rocking vest. I'm talking about fully uncapped Lecia after having endured through chapter 76, during the third turn of Tricumulo after Andira died by her fault, and under the effect of Nio's Harmonics, Sharpening, Defandue and Nine Realm Security being active, Korwa's Esprit and Astuce (with 10 Fils used during Blanche Fil) while also being buffed by Arriet's Philantropy, Petra's Elemental Breath and protected by her illusions and also receiving the effect of Rage IV and Double Trouble III, on top of the Ultima Sword's ougi being active with Siete's Seven-Star's Brilliance being cast and under the effects of Freyr, 4* Bahamut and Shiva Cross Calls and buffed by Helmwidge's Crestfallen Flower. I am indeed talking about this Lecia with 5 stacks of Conviction Arc who is about to use her Sonic Boom while also being ready to unleash a 5-stack Attack Order while only having a single HP remaining with a pool made up of 3 SSR Tiamat Guns, 3 Grimnir Harps, True Convinction Flashspear, and the Ring of HRT with their levels set to 200, their skill levels to 20 and with over 300 confirmed plus marks, with SSR Temperance, Judgement and Raphael in the summon support slots and who is so strong that she can make her cap disappear between her sprite and her art.
>>500522627I love Jeanne so much it's unreal.That is all.
>>500541201bro thats the current meta gameplay for the new raid.Dark manadiver clicks like 5 buttons only in the entire raid
Mr. Pordy and Mr. Peanne
>>500523632the best sneeds of redemption timeline
>>500532518galgehara
This wrong will finally be righted
>>500541107Why everyone but the MC? Is there some HP-based targetting bullshit or do you use a tanky class?
Despite everything, I am optimistic and have hopes for Koregra tomorrow
>>500541903Me too
>>500541858>Why everyone but the MC?Less lock out from TAs and it's usless for Satyr to move> Is there some HP-based targetting bullshit or do you use a tanky class?Dark legit doesn't even read anything the boss is doingGuard all but MC attack is the loop it does and it can hit mins in less than 40 seconds like this on good ping
>>500541327Nice 8-character party bro
hoppity on my
>>500537053https://x.com/HeWangLan54767/status/1850401004124041217this guy shouldn't have posted his attempt...he got cucked....
>>500542063Is there a good alternative to Satyr and does this need zosimos or can I get away with parazonium?
G. Cassius water exaltoG. Raphael wind primarchThere are your new year grands
>>500542470YIPEEE
>>500541327Botamo.
very cute zakohttps://prd-game-a5-granbluefantasy.akamaized.net/assets_en/sound/voice/3040525000_s1_halloween9.mp3
>>500541903>>500542034Dumbass.
>>500541327
>>500541903>>500542034Don’t forget to take your Prep lil bro
>>500542150I WANNA HOPPITY-HOP ON HER TREATI WANNA TRICKITY-TREAT HER MEAT
>>500542345>Is there a good alternative to SatyrNo>this need zosimos not used because you don't click enough
>>500540912Doujins are always accurate. Especially since she has an advantage with being able to solicit Monika. All the smart girls know how to sweeten the deal with 3p.
>>500541903>Going to be Slimeshit full info with no lowering of spark count for it
