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Event:
Lamp of Malice

Featured Banners:
Wanderer Princess Lanavaille
Knight Errant Gerard the Thundersmiter

Official wiki:
https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne

General Information:
https://rentry.org/x5xxitrz

JP fanguide:
https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/

Friend code:
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Edit code: m:Daphne

Thread template:
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>>500689225
RIP
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eos soon
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>>500689409
>die few hours later thanks to den of earth
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>>500688845
>when it works
The wheel can bug out??
Scary.
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Why do third worlders love to gargle jap cum
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At the beginning abyss third floor there's the spinner lady for low level xp farm. Is there going to be another easy xp farm in any later floors?
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>take the quest to go check floor 8 again after defeating the boss
>oh its series of 3 battles, probably hard but I can clear first one I guess
>its 2 ents with 3 hand face fucks
>ents nuke my party with AOE poison
I try this later after my perfect run and getting proper gear. Whats the reward for even clearing all three because the base rewards were stupid low for this difficulty
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>>500689593
>Try B2F boss
>get rekt twice
>Guess I need some gear from Den of Earth
>Get rekt by boss
>Oh shit I need to leave
>get ambushed
>die with 0 revives.
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>>500689686
Yeah its called just nuking everything with spells
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>>500689606
literally anything can bug out in this game
we still don't know if VIT is bugged or not since some anon literally checked a char with all bonus points in vit and one without and there was 0 hp difference
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>>500689843
>>die with 0 revives.
Just close the game for few hours bro...
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>>500689943
Didn't think it'd cost me progress. First time it ever happened to me
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>>500689916
Don't forget IQ gave no MP either.
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>>500689607
third worlders are currently asleep bwo
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Dammit, I knew those floating crystals were going to be important. Anyone know where I can find them again in the event dungeon? I am not going to be hunting every square of all of the floors again.
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>>500689916
HP gains are random rolls, so I can see that happening.
Everything is so obfuscated that its always hard to tell.
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>>500689686
Not as easy, but B5F and B7F are good spots to AoE down with mages.
>spinner lady and B5F grinding room are referenced in dispatches
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>>500689686
Running around floor 7 and 8 with mages who aoe spam every encounter.
Easy exp, just get speed gear.
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>>500689686
No fights that you can quite so quickly jump in and out of. But there are indeed superior methods to grind later on.
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>>500689607
Why do japanese games make you seethe so hard? You have plenty of western games to go play. Like Veilguard

kek
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I've finally beaten the skull fucker bros. That got me sweating yo
>"A meaningless grade for someone as meaningless as me"
Come on girl. Have some confidence. You're doing great
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>>500690365
My beastwife Amelia on the cover
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>>500690365
>600k adventurers enter abyss
>only 550k walk out because rest got hard locked
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uh oh, spotted one
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>>500690840
The abyss do be like that though
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I'm retarded. I should just have to go back to the spots Lulu commented on about small animals and bones, but nothing happens. Do I have to make it to the lamps, and clear all 3 floors in the same run? Do I need to trigger the dialogue again or do I "remember" the locations.
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>>500691306
you have to explore the floor near those points and look for shiny shit on the floor
some points are pretty close to where she commented but others are half the map away
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>>500690365
Flut being cute on the front page!
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>>500689137
>FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
>92% NIHON
JP was right to buy Wiz from the west, they made it a religion. Really happy about >our game bwos.
All that never ending bitching from doomers we are seeing around? The japanese don't give a fuck. As long as they aren't mad, the game will be fine, and seeing how this bugfesta of an opening barely got a pushback there, I doubt it'll ever happen. Get yourself around the idea you will always have to save for several months to guarantee a banner. There won't be free currency on the mail for every mistake on their part. "It'll die if they don't give us compensation!!" nah, they don't give a fuck about the gachagaming brats, and you know what? That's good.
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>>500691707
>As long as they aren't mad, the game will be fine
Did you grind out your skillbooks from the event already anon? How many hours did it take?
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>>500691707
>>500688096
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>>500691707
Anon... they're going to shut global down because only the Japanese are dumb enough to buy anything at those prices.
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>>500691987
I have 2ch open all day; bug talk is mostly kusa, everyone is playing the game. Holly hell, these Wiz threads go fast.
>>500691875
I don't see any nipon hating the event grind anon.
>>500692156
Won't happen since a main reason why this game was founded by the japanese government was to spread their culture around the globe. It'll stay like this regardless of it's popularity in the west.
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>>500692731
>I don't see any nipon hating the event grind anon.
That isn't an answer to my question
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>>500692731
>Won't happen since a main reason why this game was founded by the japanese government was to spread their culture around the globe. It'll stay like this regardless of it's popularity in the west.
You are overdosing on cope
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>Unironic slurping
Grim, hope you are getting paid for this.
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The guild girl on second town is so much cuter than the first one
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>>500692805
As long as they don't complain, nothing will change, so why would I bother getting mad at it? It's not the end of the world for me if I miss on these books. In fact, I'll buy just one and move on since I'm taking care of my phone's battery.
>>500692883
Did you just stumble upon this game? It's been known for years.
>>500693107
I would like her more if she was unique and not just another NPC reskin
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>>500692731
>anon says about twitter having a lot of bug reports(which is true btw)
>shill brings up 2chan
lol
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>>500693107
Problem I have with the first one is the "exotic" hair color. That's a very dirty shade of pink.
But port town isn't better in all aspects though, the blacksmith lacks the originality of the capital, and the girl at the inn too.
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>>500693306
Sex with Elmon
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>20% discount
I expected a bigger discount.
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On one hand I'm really fucking annoyed that event dungeon dumps potions of greater healing in my inventory like poop, on the other I can use them to heal up after fights without using up Alice's MP...
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>>500693343
I never wrote it wasn't true, it is, and it's hilarious, but it doesn't dominate the conversation on the way you may believe it's causing chaos or commotion or a call for "compensation". These people aren't that kind of crowd.
Go ahead and piss and shit all over this thread all you want, in the end of all, it won't change anything at all unless you are spending raising your voice.
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Does failing dispatch mission really do anything negative? Like, could I just send lvl1 characters to lvl+10 xp farm missions for some passive levelling?
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>>500693867
Not that I can remember but the rewards are much lower and it is just a massive waste of dispatch time.
You won't get much exp from failed dispatches.
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>>500693867
They still gain exp, but get big fortitude loss (irrelevant)
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>>500693867
I know you can still level up even if the dispatch fails, but I don't think you can powerlevel a character from 1 to high level just from a failed high level dispatch.
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>>500693762
>Go ahead and piss and shit all over this thread all you want, in the end of all, it won't change anything at all unless you are spending raising your voice
That's just your third worlder ass running to defend your favourite game.
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>>500689137
there is a bug going on that let you view your character in a 3D view; go ahead and enjoy it to take photos of you waifu.
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>installed day 1, didn't play much the first three days, have been making consistent progress since day 4
>just made it to 8F
>have to walk through poison tiles to get there draining fortitude
>am sure there is a shortcut but idk where or when I will unlock it
>need to kill the boss of 8F
>have to rewind time and make it back to 4F to get the town mascot killed just to unlock the event
>the game is only two weeks only and the game expects this much of me just to access the first event for breadcrumbs of rewards
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I understand that the Wheel is an important plot point, but I figured they shouldn't have hastily used it for the first event.
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>>500690365
Cute Flut.
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Is the event a better gold farm than selling stuff?
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What am I fucking supposed to do here, I got the crystals, I managed to get on shard from those entity things on the left but I ain't seeing more options.
Do I have to wander through the upper floors to get them? The game map clearly show that I could go here as well
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>>500690365
the amount of S0VL in this game is moving
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I definitely don't think there are this many people playing.
They are counting dead, inactive and discarded accounts in that number too, right?
For example, let's take Granblue... do you really believe that kusoge has 37 million ACTIVE players?
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>making you walk through like 4 pools of poison just to get some bones
devilish devs
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>>500695842
>do you really believe that kusoge has 37 million ACTIVE players?
I could belive its like 5 mil players with each having 5 alt accounts for guild shit
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>>500692883
bro your gif is broken
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best way to level after changing mc's class?
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>>500695607
Nice catch. Super cool
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>>500695597
No idea what is correct way, i did teleport back to town and checked the left side area, the crystal mob spawned again. So i did it 4x to light the braziers.
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where the fuck are all of the grandchildren you're supposed to find? i only found one who was already a corpse and i revived her
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>>500695842
Hey I am escaping that Kusoge here please dont bring it up my PTSD activates, I want peace of mind at least until GW starts
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>>500696310
Mage attack on peaceful skeleton realm
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>>500696432
The grandchildren request is all in one fight near the entrance of whatever floor it says, can't remember.
You just have to kill the ents I think fast enough.
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>>500693306
uoooohhh Elmon
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Whats there on the Valeon Grasslands? Whats the point of the place? All I see are random fights against beast people but nothing seems to drop at least so far
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>>500696438
You will build characters for each element in Daphne.
You will farm elemental weapons and armor with elemental reduction for each element in Daphne.
You will spend hours of your day farming the halloween event for a very specific limited reward.
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>>500696657
you'll need to go there for main story reasons
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>>500696660
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA~
LEAVE ME ALONE!
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>>500696726
Oh so the place just unlocks little earlier than you get reasons to go there
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>nips demanding new gacha to pull
we are getting a new character soon, are your gems ready?
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Grasslands will be akin to a great filter.
Your heard it here first.
>>500696941
I refuse to pull until they release a female beastkin priest or wizard.
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>>500696941
Only halfway to guarantee...
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>>500696941
I am ready to roll for females of short stature, until then I am happy with my current party and will be saving all gems
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>>500696941
I'm only rolling for lolis
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Elmon is so cool bwos...
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>>500697420
At this point we've seen her job so many different ways...
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>>500696539
thank bro, but i think the grandfather can keep his gold. i'll take these two as my reward...
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>>500694095
good bug
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>>500697516
If you don't let anyone die you get the Thief as a bondmate, but that is just a passive boost to one character, there is no real interactions or anything I think.
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>>500695597
Quests clearly expects you to bop elementals for shards, that corridor might be just borked, as expected.
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>Elise went from "i think you could do better" to "that was on par"
I think she's finally warming up to me bros...
>>500696941
I have pretty much nothing, but that's fine. I'm so invested in my current party i'm fine not getting anything new for a while. I even have two legendaries benched, that i intend to level up eventually but it should take a while. I'm taking my time
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>>500697648
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>>500697685
yep just got her bond after i reported back to the guild. imagine how amazing it would be if we had full on Persona style social links..
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>>500697952
>hfw ur below par
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>>500694095
So that is how that Ameliafag was doing it...
Though I guess with some other menu rather than the event one since it was before that.
But he was too much of a fag to say how to do it.
Based nips not being faggots.
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If I only think with my dick, I'll end up poor and miserable someday.
Until a cute female beastkin priest is released, I will control my instincts and desires. I will not be swayed or consumed by my emotions even if another character that appeals to me is released, such as a cute haughty cheeky female loli brat thief, and will keep myself steadfast.
I will repeat this mantra to myself endlessly: I will only pull for a female beastkin priest.
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>>500695597
That side was meaningless iirc, I came back to the main room and found I could burn one more entity shard and it opened the main door
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>>500698197
Noooo....
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>>500698359
>not saving until cute haughty female loli beastkin priest with thief class change
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>>500696426
Guess I'm gonna do that.
There is also this which i think it's supposed to open up
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>>500696941
>>500697083
How many 10 rolls are needed to spark?

I'm only rolling for sexy girls
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Considering all the effort it takes to even get a lead tag in the Adventurers guild, is it just me or are Adventurers held to really fucking high standards in this game?
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>>500697420
She looks kinda cool here!
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>Bonus: 5
Is there a way to unbrick this?
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>>500698712
>are Adventurers held to really fucking high standards in this game?
they literally let a random no grade lv 1 fag take a request to rescue the king
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It seems pretty obvious to me that you're not meant to get the skill exp
It's overpriced and nearly impossible to get legitimately.

With 5.4k points after 100%ing the event I can afford every other limited resource and a hat or two. But you need 2500 for one skill exp and 12500 in total is insane.
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Hmmm....
Need more female beastwomen....
Hmmmmmm....
It'd be even better if they used leotard fashion, like a certain catgirl knight who loves to drink milk at the tavern....
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>>500698712
Even the lead tag adventurers should have no problem kicking Helmut's ass, but for some reason none of them do it before you. I don't get it.
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>>500698960
this skill lasts 2 weeks. you don't need to grind all of it in 2-3 days.
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>>500699046
>but for some reason none of them do it before you. I don't get it.
>doing so much work for 3k gold and a shitty accessory
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>>500698712
The tag system doesn't make any sense, the least of which is alchemically bashing two tags together to make another tag of a higher class metal and this even being a requirement to be recognized IN ADDITON to the proficiency exams which are harder than defeating a Great Warped One.
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kek, just bought some gems. i'm genuinely enjoying this game a lot so whatever
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>>500698960
The skill xp is the most valuable thing there. Besides the bones its the only valuable thing there (no that helmet is not going to reliably save your ass)
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>>500698960
But the other resources are fucking useless.
Ores? You will be drowning in ore when trying to farm elemental weapons and armor.
Experience books? You can just farm the levels yourself, you can even use macros if you have enough wizards with enough total MP and nukes.
Gold? At that fucking exchange rate on the shop? RORU, RUMAO
Helmet? 1* Garbage.
Only the skill xp and maybe the bones matter.
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>>500694816
I'm having fun with the game. And I will unlock the event soon. But you really have to question the thinking involved. There's really not much of a chance for casual/new players to access the event. Without a timer it's hard to tell but I feel I've sunk about 20-30 hours into this already.
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>>500698712
Well, even well trained elite knights got completely BTFO by the abyss, so...
Add a competent adventurer( Loop 2 "you") and suddenly the ride becomes 10x easier
>>500699046
Let's just pretend the COOL adventurers are farming dungeons 90+ in far away places.
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Can I haggle with the dwarf for the event rock hammer or is he just gonna tell me to fuck off?
I already know the job one is a trap.
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What the hell I do with priests apart from save money from healing items? Mine just afks at the back row during battles since she can't use reach weapons or bow. I need more POWER!
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>>500699046
Helmut dropping the ceiling on them would kill them.
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>>500700735
We need crossbows...
I would be fine with a small acc and aspd penalty compared to bows, but they would probably take it too far.
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Meanwhile I think thieves are too strong in Daphne.
They shouldn't be that useful in battles, they should be a deadweight.
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>>500700735
The anti undead ball does some amount of damage to non-undeads too...
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>>500700735
I still don't get how those retards are too dumb to know how to use a spear
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SEX BUG
If you stay in the royal room alone without any party and level up, you will hear Lulunarde moan while she looks like giving you a head.
Doesn't work if you are a minor. Make sure to link Google Play and set your birthday to at least the year 2005 in settings -> set region.
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There's a thief on the 3rd (4th?) floor that tells me he has a shortcut but I didn't trust him and continued on my way.

Was I right?
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>>500701459
>people born in 2005 are legally allowed to post here
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>>500701046
The fact they ignore all defense when using skills is really lost on some people, not to mention they pick off the backline casters/archers easily.
I actually replaced my Gerulf with Elise so Debra gets the neutral damage bonus for more one shots, the tits and tights are a nice bonus.
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>>500701557
Yno, he's chill.
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>grab an event bone
>get Gerulf
Oh hell yeah
>>500701557
It's just a one way elevator
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THIS IS THE TRUE ESSENCE OF EXPLODE!
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>>500701459
This is so hilarious it almost feels it's working as intended
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>>500701697
Sneak Attack is just really that strong.
A shame it's SP cost is kinda high, but how can people not notice how it makes even daggers to absolutely high damage?
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>>500702393
Does it work on bows as well?
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>>500702509
Yes, but not as effective since bows have lower raw damage to balance it's range since they only hit once.
Daggers and swords hit twice, ignoring defense. I prefer daggers because of the high critical (Surety) rate.
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>>500702509
Sure but it does way more damage with daggers, since swapping weapons is free there's no reason not to have a pair of daggers just to use with sneak attack.
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How useful is this event helmet anyways? It looks like trash.
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My Gerulf refuses to invite me out for drinks

It must be because I'm a Goodcel.
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>>500702924
It's basically a steel light helmet so it's fine but since it comes in at 1 star you're practically guaranteed trash rolls on it
as for the instakill resist, nobody has tested it and I suspect it doesn't provide enough to be worth it
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>>500694596
Asha's Ashas...
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>arrive at the the place where maurice and friends are bound and used as bait
>know that elmon died the first time because she was injured, but this time she isn't so I figure she ought to be the best one to send
>she can be stealthy and she can handle herself in combat
>I bet sending everyone is too clumsy and not stealthy enough

>elmon survives easily but we can't save maurice
>lulu says we might have succeeded if someone had gone with the elmon
>fug I chose the wrong option
>curse wheel back to before the choice
>well fuck it, if elmon can't do it, let's all go then since it's the only option where more than one goes and elmon is still part of the group
>bridge collapses and all of us instant-die in a cutscene
>'you have the power' and I rise again with a flame of awakening
>well fuck, I guess I'll choose the option to send elmon by herself again then and perhaps I'll get an opportunity to interject now that I've got future-knowledge of her failure
>elmon goes up and we once again fail without there being a moment for me to interject
Aww fuck. Do I have to befriend Vernant or Albano further or something?
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>>500703086
You look like a milkdrinker
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what do stars on gear mean
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>>500703251
I think Skirmishers need to go with her so they need to be alive at that point.
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>>500703251
Need to go all the way back to the BF1 boss and this time you'll have a new option
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I saved everyone, re fought Helmut and even got the achievement for it and yet I still didn't get the luk lantern. Is there something else I need to do?
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>>500703932
You have to become bros with Albano
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>>500703271
they look like they belong in a homosexual doujin
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i hope the devs dont fuck up and give us a male for the next banner

>wait 4 weeks for new banner
>it's a man
that would instantly send this game to eos territory
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>>500703932
sounds like you didn't save everyone.
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>>500704143
>that would instantly send this game to eos territory
guaranteed they will try it then
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What am I suppose to do with dupes? Are they useless?
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>>500703932
Albano needs to reconcile with his uncle
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>>500704005
>>500704330
>Albano's relationship with his uncle
>Reconciled
Still nothing, but he didn't appear outside the town this time.
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Soo just unlocked Alice's last page
Alice was yandere for Agora and was the one to put the god into her own body so they'd belong to her alone [/spoler]
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>>500704270
Vore
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>>500704143
>>500704238
>goblin slayer am I a joke to you
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>>500704421
Hmm did everyone survive the battle?
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>>500704421
Albano flags are fucked you have to go through everything starting from the steel delivery quest without skipping ahead
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>>500704603
Yes.

>>500704702
Okay that's not surprising, but I really don't feel like doing all of that again right now so I guess I'll leave it for later.
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>>500704550
>collaboration gacha
Anon... that's the roadmap to EoS
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>>500704270
Go to Guild, Training room and then Discipline. Basically you use dupes to strenghten the first.
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Are discipline boosts percents? Or flat values?
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>>500704865
LUK lanterns only get 1 mind pearl so unless you have a huge hard on for giving your MC an element they're not a big deal.
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>>500703573
stronger substats
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>>500705157
flat, basically you get +2 to secondary stats and some HP
basically a nothingburger unless you spend 20 dupes doing it
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But really, why was the reward only 3x10^3 gold?
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Fuck, I opened the event chest that locks you. How do I get out?
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>>500705358
try pressing the event button
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>>500705179
Guess I'll just leave it until I feel like it, then.
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>>500705459
yeah I just started panick pressing things and that worked
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>>500705358
Keep playing around with menus, try your auto-run to exit button, last resort you'll have to hook
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Some anon in the thread right now just got fucked
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>>500705358
You savored the risk
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>>500705548
Did you rike?
Wwwww Halloween evento! very spooky yes for you. Trick or treato.
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On bf3 there is an empty chasm on the top left of the map on the forking path.
Is there anything I'm missing there?
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>>500705221
ty
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Wait. How did I >>500703251 survive going forward with everyone and dying, if the bug that just kills you repeatedly, isn't fixed until 1.1.1?
The game is still 1.1.0.
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>>500704996
What about inheritance? Or is it always good to do Discipline?
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>>500704979
let me know when it's persona.
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>>500705358
>Fuck, I opened the event chest that locks you.
There is a chest that can freeze your game?
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Please tell me the bone spots are the same for everyone because I can't find shit
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>>500706770
It bugs out and kicks you out of the game. After you come back you are unable to move since you are on top of the chest object. You can still press menus, and pressing the event menu and going out of it lets you interact with the game again and move.
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>>500706770
>>500706919
Also its location is in the top of the fourth floor map. You can only enter there on the second run when the door next to harken isnt locked anymore
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>>500706638
Discipline on characters for your main party. The amount of dupes you need will rise so eventually it may be more worth it to just inherit SSR skills rather than wait to try and pull 3 copies to upgrade their passive again
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Any guides on the correct answers during camp or tavern events?
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>Floor 5
>barely hanging on
Should I just be grinding before proceeding?
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>>500706638
>>500707153
Do not waste Legendary characters on ranking up Disciplines.
The disciplines gives you like 4 sub-stat points. But levelling up a skill makes it 50-100% more effective. and that's huge. A lot more than like +2 points in def and an extra point in some status-effect resistance.
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>>500707807
is it not possible to use exp scrolls on the skill?
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>>500707546
Floor 5? I'd probably try to be level 15 at least from that point. Then you can stay on 15 until you reach B8. Then you can level up to 20.
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>>500707952
exp scrolls are far too valuable to use on inheritable skills.
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>>500707976
No wonder, I'm only level 12. Thanks.
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I'd hold on xp scrolls for skills that you cannot level up.
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If you're using a knight you should consider spending the books on all cover
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>>500707807
Isn't this character dependent?
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>>500708198
but with the shit pull income a legendary character is worth way more no?
also isnt there a cap on inheritable skills? last time i checked inheriting a skill you already have adds to that cap
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I wonder if they're going to release more SRs, still a lot of basic skills that can't be leveled through inheritance
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i'm not using a single skill book until there is info on exactly how much you're getting out of every skill level up.
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>>500708641
porto...my beloved...
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>>500707807
I already fused my legendaries into each other. I am become brick, bricker of accounts.
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>>500707952
You could. But you can use exp scrolls to level up skills that you can't level up through inheritance.
Also. Exp scrolls can't teach another character someone else's skill. In cases where it's actually a good idea to sacrifice a legendary to someone else.
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I was thinking of holding skill books to level up shit like pic related, but then I noticed they can't level up.
>>500708672
I'm going to wait until unique classes with their unique skills are released.
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Why is it always elves
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>>500708603
>Isn't this character dependent?
Generally. But the stat boost from disciplining is rather modest always. Some points per discipline.
But maybe it gave HP too. I can't really remember. Been a week since I last ranked up someone's discipline.

I mean. Amelia is pretty worth ranking up if you wish to have an easier time with traps and chests. And as she isn't a legendary, it's a lot easier to do as well. But even in Amelia's case, she can teach someone high level Stealth and allow you to ambush enemies for free victories. Making it easier to dungeon crawl for longer.

But yeah. Getting a couple of stat points generally seem like a lot less value to me compared to inheriting or levelling up a skill.
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>>500709217
Antisemitic much?
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What do I do with Yeka dupes? How important is detection and how often do you get ambushed later on?
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>>500709217
wtf was his problem
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Note that elves aren't that much different from goblins.
Ignore other characteristics, they are all knife-eared and untrustworthy.
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Is there any way to save Lambert?
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>>500708798
This is why I think getting to the discipline cap is the best choice for characters you'll use, although maybe sacrificing a dupe for their bond mate skill will be worth more once we know what each one does.
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>resurrection costs 4000 gold
>ok well I need to go sell some of the trash I picked up to get that much
>sell it and have 10k
>come back
>resurrection now costs 6k gold
Also not being able to use my hand when someone dies to trap is some big bullshit. I got a chest drop from fight and I had to open it without being able to use potions/spells before that since otherwise it just disappears to the void
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Was the partymember bondmate stuff confirmed to be real?
And if you can get a bondmate from a partymember with max affection perma dying or being dismissed. Are you sure using them for inheritance at max affection couldn't also work?
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>>500710126
Come back when you know real pain.
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The gold farming campaign should really be permanent.
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>need 12500 gold to resurrect an adventurer
>church is good btw
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>>500706601
Not ever discovered bug procs for everyone. Like I’ve only had visual bugs so far and nothing that interferes with gameplay.
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>>500710237
not confirmed but seems legit
the max affection requirement is the thing that has everyone confused, there's no tracker for it (some anons speculate you get a little blue heart next to name when it's maxed but I've only seen one person post that heart and I don't have any despite being 45 and using the same party since 1)
currently trying to build affection with a unit I plan on dismissing but I have no idea what I'm doing, I'm just killing mobs and doing tavern events while waiting for the voice line when they grab your shoulder to change and become nice / they smile
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I don't know if any has confirmed it yet, but hammers and maced DO provide their stun chance to skill. I just stunned someone with Eruption Strike
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>>500710874
And that's why hammers for knights is underrated. Stun Bash hammer strikes.
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Alright, only 2k points needed to finally clear out all the skill books from the event. I might spend a bit extra time to clear out the exp books and the ore just because its easier to get them otherwise, but otherwise im nearly done.
I guess the event was okay. Wish it was more generous. After this I'm back to finishing the Church route of Dungeon 2, go to the Admiral Route of Dungeon 2, and then I guess im entirely out of content...
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So if I fail res one more time she's permanently gone?

Guess I need to wait until 100 Fortitude then?
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>>500711546
How much time did you spend?
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>>500711560
Yeah.
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>>500711560
Yeah, you can ensure she doesn't by waiting until 100 fortitude. Don't risk it otherwise.
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>>500711546
Bwo your level 5 bondmates?
Your 4* purps?
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>>500711560
Yes.
And maybe.
People say you can't fail while above 50 Fortitude, but are you really ready to Savour the Risk?
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>>500711560
That or you can spend 200 green gems. That should be a guaranteed success.
But green gems are valuable.
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>>500711648
A handful of hours, on and off throughout the day. Each full clear of B4F was about half an hour, giving around 200-800 (we'll say 500 average).
I suppose maybe 4 hours? Maybe more? After finishing the dungeon itself
>>500711779
im not grinding out 4* purps on gear that's going to be outclassed before long anyway.
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>>500711814
>you can't fail while above 50 Fortitude

Okay I'll give it a shot. If I brick it'll give me a reason to drop this game.
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>>500711940
You fucking retard don't try to put the blame on me I'm not saying "you can't fail" I'm just saying other people said that.
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>>500711940
Record it
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>>500711940
This is the perfect opportunity to take a quick break. A couple of hours or 3 tops and she'll be ready.
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>>500711940
Post the results in the thread before quitting
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>>500711814
You cant fail above 50 fortitude at first but if you try under you can fail and character gets turned into ash, then you need maxed out fort to resurrect with 100% chance on your second chance they give (so character with max 80 just needs 80)
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>>500710874
>>500711174
the chance to stun is so laughably low that it isn't even remotely worth it
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Just hit lv 30 on all my main team
Beat the first dungeon
How do I best gear up for the next stuff? I'm still in shitty bronze and some iron gear
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>>500712128
I didn't though. Still want to test it for funsie since it's an alt account anyway,

>>500712421
But maybe not.
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>>500711560
Yes, wait. Foe your own good. Time will dilute any saltiness generated due to your current predicament.
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>>500710126
SAVOR
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>>500712656
boss runs in den and pray for good rng
then after you have soil weapons on your main dudes go farm next story dungeon
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>>500710874
Are procs per hit though?
1 roll per hit with swords?
or 2 rolls with 1 hit with blunts
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>>500712487
yeah, better to get that damage increase with a 1h sword instead
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So supposedly you learn MACONES at lvl 9 but I'm already 16 and instead I have learned FERU and MAHALITO which I don't think I saw in the list previously.
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>>500713912
u sure u weren't looking at another character?
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>>500713912
Did you change type?
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where do I get more tags to unlock my party levels? I finally beat big nig skellyington because he chose to "Wait and See" three turns in a row with no allies
The den of earth and cave of trials are gruelling and they're slowly sapping my will to keep playing
What stat prevents you from stepping on traps?
I'm still missing Olive/Elise/Asha/Clarissa/Eulalia, I hope they're cute
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>>500714032
>>500714060
Double-checked and I'm Void alright, I WAS Earth prior to resetting the well tho.
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>>500713912
I knew I wasn't crazy when I saw a cones spell pop up during leveling, might be a bug due to changing to earth.
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>>500714320
>What stat prevents you from stepping on traps?
I think detect because the only allies that have stopped me from hitting a spike trap has been mages and thiefs.
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>>500712487
That's not true.
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>>500714975
prove it
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>>500714320
dismiss characters and do your weekly tag request.
Generally I don't know what trap detection is tied to but I think when I had everyone 25+ they started consistently stopping me from walking into them, at least in the earth den.
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>>500712487
luck is a skill (stat)
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>>500713912
Yeah, MC gets Fire / Wind (I have mage at 40.)
Maybe it's intended to be Cones, but it sure fucking isnt and I've never element changed. Just something more to savor.
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>>500714320
I love cave of trials. Free exp
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At what level of gear is it actually worth it to start combining weapons/armor to get bonuses further than 5+? I skipped bronze and iron, and I feel like above steel there is going to be some gear too? Or would it be worth it already since I could roll over some of that bonus to new gear anyway?
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>>500712487
It's like one in five hits or something. Which isn't bad for a normal attack.
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I farmed and upgraded 3 sword of undead bane to +9 just for the event.
And I regret it immensely
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>>500715825
I haven't gone beyond +5 on my steel/earth weapons (I basically ignore armour unless it's a purple piece) and I've cleared the 2nd dungeon, though yet to do the real real clear. I feel like just going +5 for as long as possible is the best bet as I imagine higher gear tiers will quickly outclass our current ones
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I've paid the gold.
I'm not going to the goblin nest.
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>get to the ship boss
>luckily stumbled upon the water god statue beforehand to lower the water level
>it rises the water anyway after a few turn so my casters immediately become useless
Well, fuck. Is there any shortcut on the 6th district? It feels like a major chore to go back to the entrance of it since the whole level is a straight line going back and forth left and right.
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>>500715825
I went +10 on my beastkin armor and altered it to have good bonuses
Hitting 100 eva on my frontline or +50 extra mag/div on spellcaster is really nice
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>>500715825
We may be stuck at steel/elemental tier for a while
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>>500716568
Nope
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>start a goblin fight
>they mention "women"
oh shit this is one of those worlds. Thank god I'm a man
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How do I make extract not fail?
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>>500716969
It's fine, goblins are no threat
In fact if you find their nest make sure to wipe them out for some easy loot
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>>500717147
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>>500717147
I dunno those hobgobbos look like they could capture a few female adventurers
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>>500717040
Don't bother extracting anything but blue or higher
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>>500716568
I want to say you can disable statues and they stay disabled, so you should have a quick walk back on the left side if I remember right--but that may be 5F. Otherwise, no.
Tip: Buy scrolls for that phase. Scrolls don't get muted by water.
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What's Memento Cor's gender?
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Should I be investing into steel weapons or earth element weapons?
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>>500717447
Type A
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>>500717447
Male. Says it right there anon.
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>open a chest in b4f malice
>Game crashed
Well, it was fun while it lasted
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>>500717451
Earth elemental weapons carried me through pretty much the whole 2nd dungeon. I do have a backup steel weapon I have my fighters carry around but I could probably be farming fire weapons too
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i didnt know till i tried that you can farm the entity shards from the same spawn like the one SE from the harken on floor 2
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>>500717730
They sent a notice a few hours ago warning people not to go to B3F kek
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Is there an actual tierlist? I want to know how my mom's account is looking.
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>>500717953
Only shitposting ones
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>>500717953
Certainly, here you go. It was verified by the best of Wizardry
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>>500717953
There isn't a good one. There's not enough content to really make a definitive one. For example, how do you rank Benjamin? He's a pretty stock standard fighter. Is he low because of that? But also, he has 'beast killer' as a passive which reduces damage from beasts, and increases damage to beasts--and nearly everything in the 2nd dungeon is classified as a beast.
Is he great, then? What about when the next dungeon releases?
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>didn't get the medicinal root request like I did on my first NG+ playthrough
>some of the knights got squashed
>robbed of my LUC light
Do we know what triggers it yet?
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>>500718621
get to B8 but return to the inn BEFORE killing the ents is the trigger I believe.
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>>500717817
It would had been better if they would had just removed the infected chests lmao
Guess I'm stuck there until they fix it
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>>500717953
Top objective tierlist right here

>S rank
>Beast girls

>A rank
>Elf girls

>B rank
> Named Human girls

>C rank
>generic Human girls

>D rank
>Male characters
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>>500718621
You might still have the root. In the fucked up nature of this game, you have to watch the knights die before you're allowed to give the root because only then you know that they need a strength tonic, I think.
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>>500718790
>you have to watch the knights die before you're allowed to give the root because only then you know that they need a strength tonic
I didn't have to
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>>500718973
same here, i had a full clear but only sent albano back to his dad instead of talking it out
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>>500718790
>>500718621
Nah I don't think I ever saw the knights die beforehand but was still able to get this flag. I could be wrong but I thought the flag was coming across a random root in like B5F and having that guy make a potion for you on the spot. Also your craftsmen have to still be alive too
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>>500718780
I like Jarmil though
We can creep on women together
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is this chest breaking the game for anyone else?
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>>500718780
My mom agrees lol.
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GWOs ain't shit
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>>500719663
I like how plastered she looks at the tavern. Elise is certainly one of my favorite characters
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>>500719627
I opened it last night just fine, after the update so I know it didn't break it.
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What level should I be to tackle the goblin nest? Sorta forgot about it because I read it was a newbie trap and I'm now at 8F level 17.
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Grinding chests at waterway is so much more fun than the event because I get items that I can throw into the gacha to get gear and even if 99% of it is garbage its more fun to chase that 1% of getting a good item than farm some crystals which I could trade for bad helmet and then the skill exp but skill exp is boring chase
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>>500720745
Just go in there and feel it out, you'll know right away
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>There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now is the time to remember.
>You have the power...
>There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now is the time to remember.
>You have the power...
>There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now is the time to remember.
>You have the power...
>There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now is the time to remember.
>You have the power...

>Yes, that's it...
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>Alice stares daggers into you
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>leveling up actives raises their sp/mp cost
WTF
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>>500721583
You can still choose to use the lower level version if you want, it gives you the option when you try to use the skill
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>>500721172
K I N O
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>>500721172
I'm really fucking tempted to create a new account and do everything again just to see this scene again
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>>500722636
I am sure someone recorded the whole thing
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>>500722708
What about it in japanese?
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Anyone know where I can find Chris and Mudd's dead bodies? I need them in the knowledge tabs before I can get the bondmates.
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>>500723215
No. Fuck you.
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>>500709217
109 kingdoms anon, it can't the the Kings's fault, can it?
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>>500717447
You will never be a Woman (of the Abyss)
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>>500721719
Can I replace the favorites with the lower level version?
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So... My entire party drowned and using a flame just made me drown again instantly... what did i fuck up... this shit costed me 15k in resurrects
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>>500723984
The same pop up comes when you click the favourite skill too
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>pick we should all go
>immediately kills me
>rise again
>puts me back at the literal spot where it kills me again
>accept death
>lose everything
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>>500720527
I got an error that would have me restart the game like 4 times in a row so I ended up leaving it alone
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I have no idea why I had a 2handed mace on Alice until now at level 22. So just threw a 1handed staff that gives her + 50 div and +30 mag. How will that affect her spells? I mean she could already wipe out Undead groups in 1 hit with the mace and her secret art and her heals cured around 80 hp
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Are you racist? Which race do you hate the most?
Fuck elves.
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>>500724935
I hate FAIRIES
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>>500724846
I believe numbers on her spells will increase in some capacity
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>>500724935
yeah fuck elves
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Me wanz rownd klink-klink
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>>500725264
Here you go, champ.
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are you expected to beat the two ents on B2 on the second run of naraku? these guys feel like a major difficulty spike.
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>>500724846
My mage's aoe spell dmg went up by 30+ by giving her 22 more mag
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>>500724935
Elves are for fucking, yes. What I actually hate are dirty smelly beast slaves.
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>>500725024
So cruel

Also anyone have a close up picture of the ingame fairies? They look cute
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>>500725560
Have elves, but keep catboys/foxboys to me.
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>>500725713
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>>500725453
No. You can come back and fight both later on to get an achievement though.
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Yeah I'm not farming this event
Fuck these skill books
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Can characters turn to ash when you try to revive them in battle or is that only something that can happen when you bring them to town?
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>>500725987
Only happens in town.
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>>500724846
150hp heals now. Damn I was missing out
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>>500725987
Only in town, if you revive in battle then the only two things that can happen is you being succesful in it or hitting yourself in the face (and then dying yourself if you do that too much)
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>>500725024
I love FAIRIES
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>>500726091
And 100 more dmg on her 25mp party wipe. Hits for 290 now
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>>500725770
I mean when they go up to the screen at the start of battle
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>have to travel back to the first warped one fight in order to save the skirmishers
>this is before the floor2 ent fight
>which means I'll have to erase the moment I was super awesome and cool and defeated both ents
Bros... I don't know if I can beat them again. It was super difficult.
>don't defeat both then!
But I want to! I need to! In this timeline I humbled all of Dylanhardt, Vernant, and Albano. I was -the- man of the timeline!
What a cursed existence this is. Truly.
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>>500726945
Just jump forward and pretend there's a flag for beating them both.
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i see now what you guys meant with the 6th floor
this shit sucks just bait them out of the water
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So I got a Knight book for my Dwarf Priest, and I was wondering if class changes has been good for those who have done class changes. I already run the guy in the frontline, but it costs 400 gems.
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Anyone got a gif or webm of Yekaterina's skellybro in the tavern drinking?
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The Cursed Wheel mechanic is rather compelling. This game could have existed without it, but here it is.
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In the Cursed Wheel menu. What does the Restore Causality button do?
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What does Accept Death do?
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Second day of playing, what are some DONT BRICK YOUR ACCOUNT mistakes I shouldn't make? How broken are gacha weapons?
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>>500728351
>Anyone got a gif or webm of Yekaterina's skellybro in the tavern drinking?
Love these two.
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>>500728901
It resets you to the last savepoint, but also keeps any damage you took in the fight you died at. So if you used items, they're gone and if someone died they're dead. Also any progress you had made after that savepoint is erased.
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>>500699343
Gems is like the dumbest thing to buy considering the other packs available.
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>>500729089
>How broken are gacha weapons?
Extremely. But you need to actually spend real money to get them.
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>>500729181
What do you mean by savepoint?
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>>500729346
how come they're featured on the freebie gem banners then the fuck
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>Lana still ASHED with 30 Fortitude

I just wanna play bros.
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so do I understand this right, if I run out of flames I need to stop playing for the day or I risk losing my characters?
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>>500729517
>30 Fortitude
>acting like that's a lot when the max is 100
You could always buy the adventure pass and get one free revive a day!!!
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>>500729517
ASHED happens if you fail when trying to revive with under 50 fortitude, if you had just waited... 2 hours you would have had guaranteed restoration but now you have to wait almost 4 times that
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>>500729358
Basically the last story section you have seen. Not sure how this applies in regards to event dungeon.
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Do you guys know if the first boneseller, the one with the SSR bone stays waiting for you forever or does he fucks off at some point in the story? Say, can I kill the greater warped one and start NG+ without worrying, had anyone done so?
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>>500729301
yea i didn't just buy raw gems, i got the b5f pack
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>>500730030
I killed Helmut before picking the bone, yeah.
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HOW DO I NOT BRICK AND LOSE MY ADVENTURERS?
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The average chest farming experience. Poor thiefs...
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>>500729650
nah, ashing only happens due to a failed res in town
flames are your own personal revive (which you can also use to rewind when you have a lot of dead teammates)
as long as you only res at 51+ fortitude you're fine
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>>500730202
When characters die and you return to surface you can revive them in the church. Do not try to revive them if their fortitude score is under 50 just wait some hours for it to recover and then that revive is guaranteed to be succesful and you have no worries. If you do try your luck anyway well there is a chance that they revive or it fails and they turn to ash. If they turn to ash then definitely do NOT try to revive them again unless their fortitude score has regenerated to max, otherwise they can turn from ash to air and disappear forever.
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>>500729089
>How broken are gacha weapons?
They're good but less so once you're out of the tutorial, in any case the game isn't too difficult if you're experienced at dungeon crawlers so the weapon is pretty unnecessary

>>500729425
you can buy it with mileage, but you need 100
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What is the best investment for the green stones, just the rolls?
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>>500730581
Why do you retards keep spamming the wait until 50 fortitude bullshit,i've never seen a single res above 20 fortitude fail and i've done dozens.
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>>500730891
Just keep them for rolls. And remember to weekly check your class papers on the exchange, those cost 400 gems and depending on character and class it can be a good investment
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>>500731217
sheeeit this guy is like an expert at getting killed
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>>500731409
>he didn't farm bones while powerleveling
lol
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Are Undead Bane weapons the safest to enhance right now since there's no better undead effective weapons?
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>>500731783
I didn't go past +5 on them, most are 1-2 stars and they scale like shit.
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I want to rape Yekat
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>>500731409
the game itself only warns you about consequences for resurrecting if you enter dungeons with a character that has fortitude under 20.
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>>500729156
Thank you kindly, anon.
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>>500729156
This was what made me install the game
I hate how easily I am convinced to do bad life choices. And after being almost gacha free for 3 years already
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>>500731217
>>500732174
okay >>500729517
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bitch move
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>>500689137
at the event dungeon b4f
after the gate from the 4 requests I approach a door and theres a roar then my game crashes
I am locked into hearing the roar and then the game crashing
what do?
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>>500732394
See >>500711560
Dumb fuck.
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How dead am I if I enter the arena at level 30?
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>>500732696
The necromancer has you under his control now, it's over.
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>>500730421
How do I choose not to revive in dungeons? Seems to be forced on me?
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>>500732761
Remember to remove your MC first because multiple fights are forced loss events.
And yes, you will have to pay to revive your characters.
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>>500732860
timey wimey stuff doesn't count as rezzing, you're literally just rewinding your teammates
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>just now entering B7F at level 20
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>>500732860
You can just back out, there's a button in the corner. It's kinda sad how MC slowly retracts the hand too.
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Anyone got a Den of Earth map?
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>>500732860
>How do I choose not to revive in dungeons? Seems to be forced on me?
The QTE revive during battle? There's an X in the bottom right corner.
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>>500732860
You can revive without worry inside the dungeons, there is no turning into ash or anything like that there. You either succeed in the revive or die yourself due to the damage you take from failing to hit the circle. Or you can press the X in the bottom right corner if you feel like you wont succeed in the revive and want to continue the fight but then you have to take them to the church after the fight.
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>>500733037
>It's kinda sad how MC slowly retracts the hand too.
He's thinking about how much he'll have to pay the church
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>>500733124
There are multiple patterns, and I'm pretty sure I've gotten some ones that weren't posted here in the thread.
But the shortest route to beeline the boss is always go to the middle of the map.
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just remember to revive the companions when their fortitude regens to 100 so you never fail
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I like this game and want to succeed, is bone farming real or schizo babble?
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>>500733183
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>>500733258
I'm trying to get better gear since most of my characters are still using bronze trash
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>Camp
>Amelia says its cold and asks for someone to snuggle up with her
cute
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>>500733343
The B7 bone? It does respawn, although not sure how long or what triggers it. I think i've gotten it incidentally like 3-4 times now.
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what do I do on low level mages/priests? Feels stupid having them do 1-2 damage and dont really have mp to do anything
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>>500733506
just drag them along, they'll start getting useful after a few levels
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>>500733506
exactly that until you get more levels
use the mage as a sleep bot and the priest to heal booboos until you start opening up new spells and get more mp
if im leveling/farming ill mp dump np, but if its running a new floor i make sure to use my health pots
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>>500732903
The first, third and fifth fights are free losses, right? But I meant more 'is this doable at level 30' or should I finally rank up.
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>>500733506
They're your life savers on hard battles
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>>500733506
power level mages with your main team
then when mages are strong enough, their roles reverse and become the powerlevelers
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hory shiet
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So, do I ignore the obvious "we're bad guys, let's put message on this corpse" or listen to it?
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>>500734040
>Bonus points: 5
>Bonus points: 5
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Has anyone found if there's a rank up at level 50? It seems EXP stops at 50, but I don't know if you can rank up anyway.
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Ooooohhhhhh because the developers were "reviving the DRPG genre" and that's the MC's power oooohoooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>500734178
It's fine. They were dupes anyways.
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What's the best line in the game?
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is luck a meme stat?
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>>500733343
I reset back to awakening and was able to get bones on b4, b5, b6, b7 and an extra sword of breeze, the b1 bone from quest dusted (tested all classes)
going to check again 24 hours after picking them to see if they're on an internal timer or something because not infinite and they don't reset with the dailies
I'm not redeeming them in case they take them away but mausoleum farm proved to me I won't get banned so worst to worst I lose a few hours and they take them away and best case I keep the free bones
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>>500731783
Steel weapons are straight up better even vs undead since undead weapons are only slightly better than bronze in stats. They beat iron against undead but that's about it.
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>>500734491
Not the best, but super underrated line: clicking on Lana in battle
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is it normal for this boss to oneshot your tank with the high pressure move?
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>>500734892
>mausoleum farm
huh?
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>>500734679
its nice for skills like follow-up attack, counter
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>Debra's a girl

???
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>>500730126
thanks bro, I'll keep going then
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>>500735138
Perhaps you should check around maybe you'll find something!
Hm? is that an NPC in the room before the boost maybe he has something to say?

>>500735345
She is so beautiful she has to wear a mask or else she'd be instantly sold into slavery.
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>if a trap kills a character you can't revive them
why
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>>500735194
It's already been patched, thief one was bugged and dropping infinite bones.
they said they're going to take away all the dupe bones people got but they've only patched the exploit as of now, I still have the bones sitting in my inventory
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>>500735456
oh i know about that route i just wanted to fight him at full strength
i killed them anyways on the first attempt but i was just wondering if that move dealt a lot of damage or if it was a insta kill
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Anyone done the math on how much I need to farm the event for all the rewards? I'm getting 15 per chest and 70 per fight that bothers to drop anything, and I'm seeing 2000+ cost items. That's a lot of grinding I'm not sure I'm willing to do.
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>>500734679
speed and luck biggest meme stats in the game. you only need a little bit of speed to reach a certain threshold and you get that from leveling naturally no need to allocate any points into it. luck does affect some things but by such a miniscule amount that it's worthless

str/iq/piety for damage/mana
dex for damage/thief trap/chest
vit for natural defense and resistance

speed and luck = brick stats
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>>500735748
If you know how much you get, then you can do the math on your own...
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>>500731217
it warns you at 50 or below.
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>>500735672
Well when i did it anyway it was hitting around 352 raw and around like 220ish through defense.
You'd probably need to be level 40 or more to have a chance to beat it in water.
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what does the saving the king pack include and how expensive was it?
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>>500736029
how about that guild curated selection?
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I like that this game doesn't have fucking 17 different currencies. Green gem. Purple gem. blue gem. done.
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Is this game going to fuck me for selling everything tagged as [Sell for gold]? Seems like the kind of asshole game that would?
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>>500736367
The fuck are you talking about. Each banner has it's own individual pity currency, there's also gold, and you could consider each type of ore a currency as well.
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>>500736674
I had that same worry for a while with that ripeness of abyss thing but so far I've been fine
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>>500736674
there are a couple bondmates you can get for keeping coins and azure ores on hand.
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I've got the "Overcome vile trap on B4F" but I'm already past it and went to B5F, if I turn back time to the trap and re-do the sequence will it fix it or just have to cope with a glitch and missing the 100 gems for it and the future ones past that for story progression?
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>>500736674
No but you should hang onto some blue rocks and rusty coins because a few dungeon monsters will take them for trade and a bond quests
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>>500732601
Heh
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>>500736843
I had that same problem before I noticed it well into the 2nd abyss. It cleared for me when I did it again but I was redoing everything to get the Albano ending. Was he still with you at that point
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>Who should open this chest?
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>>500736843
It will fix it but if you ever wheel back to before that moment It'll bug again, I wouldn't worry about it if you plan on getting lvl 5 bondmates at some point because those require wheel unless you really want the ~250 gems you'd get from completing the rest of the objectives
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>>500737360
Gandolfo:
>This sucks why do I have to do it?!
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>>500734040
If you also get Lana then that's a golden team.
Except Yeka > Adam. Not just because of her being a female companion. But because Ambush protection is a real, real life saver and thus an SSS tier ability. And the bonus damage and protection against undead is also exceptionally useful every dungeon and floor where it's relevant.
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>>500735875
>luck does affect some things but by such a miniscule amount that it's worthless
Bro. You'll never have Follow-Up Attacks on every attack and Counter attacks on every evade like that. Not to mention your tanks not being able to edge out 1hp survives instead of actually facing death.
Luck is great.
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>>500737157
Yeah he still was, just went through the part where he picks up the flower. I also did the request for his uncle to get the steel and delivered letter to Albano.
>>500737432
I don't think I'll want to grind bondmates in particular yet, just want to get the gems while I'm still going through it. At worst it sets me back few requests but I'll cope, better than being bricked.
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A-Amelia, right here? At the temple? Thou must constrain thyself!
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>bows can follow-up attack
>counterattacks can follow-up attack
God I love proccing it. I wonder if high enough LUC could let it proc again
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>>500736681
This is extremely tame compared to most gachas. But as with all gacha, the currency bloat will likely happen over time.
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>>500738031
I wish to marry Amelia!
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>>500738356
i really hope they let us go crazy with that kinda stuff at high levels. i want to see my chars proccing all kinds of shit i love RPGs that have stuff like that.
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The team has to fix up the UI. I don't know how to contact these dudes but most of the buttons are too small. The only UI that's good is the dialogue, revive mechanic and the party UI.

Everything else is too small and constrained. The need popout menus and equipment screens that are much better.
Also adding characters to the party is a mess.

This is the biggest problem with the game right now.
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>>500738728
>but most of the buttons are too small
Eh? I mean an option for visually impaired people would be unironically cool.
But I really don't see how it'd be an issue for regular people.
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>>500693306
why are mini elves like this?
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Will we get a 10pull for 1mil downloads...
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>>500738951
Why one 10 pull? Let's get a nice ten 10 pulls to celebrate!
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>>500738728
Nah, I prefer the minimalist buttons. Is your phone super tiny or something?
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>>500693306
>picture
This dude has been grinding.
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>>500738873
I've always wondered whether all elves were short of if Elmon just has a genetic defect.
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>>500738728
Oh and the chest UI is good too.
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>>500737614
I must be a God gamer because I never get ambushed anymore.
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>>500694596
>>have to walk through poison tiles to get there draining fortitude
>>am sure there is a shortcut but idk where or when I will unlock it
In the corners of B8. There are piles of rocks that you can revert. Like when the caves caved in. But these rocks will fly up and form into floor tiles for B7. Allowing you to avoid the poison tiles.
Also. Once you beat 8F. Getting back to 4F can be done in <30m.
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>>500738728
Sounds like a you problem. Do you have glasses?
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>>500738031
>>500738552
I wish I had her...
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>>500709217
it's a bit on the ears, isn't it?
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>>500693306
Heh.
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How much hp does the scorpion woman have in B5F on NG. I smacked her with enough heavies and precise shots as my team's SP bars would allow and she still didn't die.
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>>500738869
>>500739131
Good example is the combat buttons (Attack, defend, etc.).
There's good stuff there like the spells quick option, but you don't need the party information at the bottom when you're selecting attacks.

It's a rule with mobile games in portrait that buttons should be the width and height of your thumb's press.
They've still got half of like
Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land's UI mindset in this game when it needs to be more streamlined.
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>>500739137
It's really not that bad if you're high level. I've only got 1k frags left to do just that, and thats under an hour.
It gets really, really easy if you just have a handful of mages. I've been using it to level Priest / Mage to 40 and I have Alice/Yakaterina locked at 30 (and they're nearly 45 by EXP count) for grinding. Everything dies in one blast.
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how many rolls do I need to guarantee new units? does pity carry over?
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>>500739996
How high are your magic/divine power that you're one shotting everything at 30?
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>>500739959
You are right.
Retards just don't get it.
Controls are one of the reasons I switched to playing on emulators instead of my phone.
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>>500739756
What do the elevens think of the game? Japanese seem to have this really weird relationship with RPGs, from Wizardry to Dragon Quest, genuinely curious what they think the most.
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>>500739959
Having to go back and forth to see my MP/SP and my teams HP or select an attack would be hell, you are both blind and retarded.
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>>500739959
Like this. Someone here send them this image. Arigato.
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>>500739841
Apply debuffs
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>>500740091
100. No.
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>>500739959
>should be the width and height of your thumb's press
Width? Yes. But height? Fuck no, that's just such a waste and clogs the fucking screens.
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>>500740465
That's fucking awful, I'm glad you're too stupid to figure out how to send anything to the devs.
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>>500740465
legally blind and clinically retarded, what a wild combination
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>>500740479
shit I shouldnt have rolled 11 times, at least it paid off time to save
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>>500740465
Thats fucking terrible, I need to see party HP and stats to know if I should use consumable on them or try to stun/delay enemy
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>>500740465
not having the numbers on-screen is just pure cancer. It's a DRPG, not some ero-gacha autobattler.
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>>500740485
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>>500740465
good troll. i kek'd
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>>500740116
Oh, sorry. I left something out--I also have a 46 Flut casting Lamigal, but also Alice Labaidos is one-shotting anything shorter than an Undead Knight (which takes 1 more swing). For what its worth, she has 170 Divine Power (Flut has 202 Magic Power)
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Is this an SSR to win game or are there some SR that are better than SSR?
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>>500740717
>I need to see party HP and stats to know if I should use consumable on them or try to stun/delay enemy
Or if I should finish the enemy asap, or if a different unit has more sp/mp to handle it. Having to page through to see the party stats would be tedious as hell.
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>>500741212
Could do fine with a full party of generics if you wanted to
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Been out of commission for a few days, is the event playable yet without bricking your account? Is it even worth doing?
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>>500741136
171, huh okay. I could probably manage that with a lot better gear.
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>>500741212
The gap between the SSRs and SRs is small, they just have slightly better stats and get an extra skill and/or passive.
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>>500741413
>worth doing
Notable rewards include 3 bones, and 5x 25 skill xp books (a lvl 1 skill takes 100 skill xp to level).
I'd say just to it because it's content, but don't really bother farming it unless you want.l
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Am I deaf or do Galina and Yeka have the same VA? I don't think I can use them together like this.
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>>500741605
Have there been some stat comparisons for higher level characters yet? I'm interest how big of an edge SSR characters have in raw stats, if any
At base they don't look that much better than SRs at least
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Are the royal knight items in the shop worth buying or are they a scam?
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>>500732819
>>500732696
I ran the game with bluestacks instead of my phone and it let me keep going, guess my phones shittier than I thought
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>>500741938
scam. worse than steel.
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So they recreated this. That's soulful.
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>>500739178
Elves seem to have regional/race differences, like how the mountain elves get mentioned a few times
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>>500741910
>I'm interest how big of an edge SSR characters have in raw stats, if any
>At base they don't look that much better than SRs at least
I actually think generics have the highest stats. Though they have no personal skills.
Don't know what difference there is between regularly named characters and legendaries though.
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>>500742252
Cute Flut!
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>>500742252
Flut still looks so cute after all these years
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>>500741938
the mage staff is alright to buy if you really need one early on
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>>500742252
Is this the canon party?
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>>500742126
Where do you get steel items from?
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You know, thinking about it, it's curious there's no halflings. Given Japan, they'd adore it--and they've been a classic wizardry race since the get-go. I guess technically it was gnomes, but basically same difference.
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>>500742252
uhhhhhh why can't we magically unlock chests ingame
false advertising
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>>500742276
My mountain elf is even more haughty than my other elves.
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>>500741910
I think having the legendary mages/priest is actually pretty game changing. Mainly the access to a full screen aoe before level 40. Most people who even reached 40 was able to grind to 40 because of those skills.
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>>500742513
Second dungeon. But +4 bronze is enough to get you through the first.
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I wish I could leave the enemy voices on but turn off party voices. They talk way too much.
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>>500742659
Please understand, dirty beasts are too stupid to use magic.
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>>500742559
My bet is still that they'll be coming in future updates if the game doesn't turn unprofitable.
Picture related.
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>>500742559
Maybe we'll get the equivalent at some point
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So I'm hard stuck on the Helmut NG+ fight. One of his puppet soldiers he summons in the middle of the fight attacked my MC with Lana covering for him. Sadly, she never moves away and the fight doesn't progress, so I can't play anymore. Some rocks fell down too and crushed one of the puppet soldiers and one of the soldiers even still stands in a rock pile with half of his body.
Closing the game doesn't do anything because when I get back in, the fight is paused at the moment where the puppet soldier attacks my MC again and Lana covers for him, just to not move out of the way anymore and the game is just stuck like that.
Anybody an idea how to resolve it? Wrote a ticket but I'm not hoping for much, especially with all the other fires they have to keep putting out right now.
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>>500741910
seems like SSR has about 10% more base stats on average than the unnamed characters.

character stats are here
https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/875296
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>>500743005
Save your account ID/Password (you can do it from the start screen), then uninstall -> reinstall -> log in again
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>>500742959
That's a fairy, not a halfling. Note the wings, green hair, and penchant for betray in her eyes.
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>>500743005
I got stuck at Helmut when Lana covered my MC too when puppet Vernant attacked. I had to uninstall the game and reinstall two times to fix it. If it works, it should reset to the start of the fight and I just never touched Cover ever again. I hope you linked your shit.
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>>500742791
Such FILTH is unbecoming of a mountain elf!
>>500742959
>fairies possibly in the future
>ninja in the future
Time for evasion
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Where are the Japanese voices
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If elmon is small then there is a good chance of a small gacha character in the future
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>>500743005
>Anybody an idea how to resolve it?
I just opened the game, proceeded from the title screen. And the fight would be frozen. At which point I'd just close the app and reopen it. And the second time it'd work.
At least that's what I've done every time the game has crashed in the middle of a fight. Not particularly against helmut or whatever you said. But it's how I avoided the fight refusing to resume at least.
Maybe it's the same for you.
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>no matter what you order, the liquid in the cup looks the same
Soulless
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>>500743203
No bathes for Elise until she learns to take the dirt in stride like Lana.
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>>500743382
>"cheers" isn't voiced
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>>500742559
Saving all my gems for pettanko Porklus!
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>>500743225
I actually watched a JP trailer just now, and realised that Japanese doesn't fit into more western RPG settings, exactly the reason why stuff like Souls feels better in English.

"Kawaisou" vs "How utterly pitiable" just doesn't carry in the setting.
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>>500742959
>Playable fairy

And that one will be the waifu.
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>Gerard A tier
oh nonono i seriously hope none of you pulled for him
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>>500737614
It's not only the Ambush Protection, Adam has SEVERE HP problems later on compared to Yekat, at level 30 there's a bigger than 60HP gap between the two to the point that he becomes a real liability against column attacks. I fully expect a max level Yekat to have like 33% more HP than a fully leveled Adam.
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>>500743695
The difference is souls games tend to have better voice acting. There are some really mediocre voices in this game's dub.
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>>500729156
>I have finally gotten close enough with yeka for yeka to smile to me
I'm so happy!
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>>500743765
I did not bother but if you got him it's free-real estate seeming as he was the only limited on debut.
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>>500737614
I think I've seen yekat's ambush protection proc all of once. At base level the chances of it working are pretty trash. The undead bonus is great though.
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>>500714320
>I finally beat big nig skellyington because he chose to "Wait and See" three turns in a row with no allies
Why is this so hilarious?
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>>500743831
>The difference is souls games tend to have better voice acting

The difference is they have British voice actors. The American accent has less nuance for emphasizing subtle dramatic effect.
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>>500744085
Works on my yekat
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>>500743765
I mean he is a knight that wants to be a dodge tank. Should have been a thief as his base class with a taunt. Or at least a fighter to take advantage of his attack skill.
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>>500744085
>I think I've seen yekat's ambush protection proc all of once.
For me it has triggered like an unironic 75% of the time.
Maybe I've been really lucky. But even if the true ratio was 50% or even just 20%, that's still a potential life saving ability that can prevent losses.
But I swear that it's been activating like 75% or more for me. And I've been playing since launch. Even today, having grinded the Malice dungeon, I've gotten ambushed a bunch but only two ambushes actually went through.
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>>500744121
There are some good voice actors in the bunch. But the ones that are bad just drag down the entire performance. And it's growing on me, somewhat.

I would never hire American voice actors. They bring too much baggage/drama to the table and are inconsistent in quality (especially the women).

Just hire the Bri'ish
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>>500742959
>They release their first Ninja/Fairy
>The paid bones makes him or her come with the staff of Corpus
Prepare your wallet for that.
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>>500744757
I don't trust this female. She's up to something.

She's really harsh on me being a ghul.
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>>500744061
Why do I feel like the surprise of the MC being a ghul, would just be a turn-on for Yekaterina instead of a deal-breaker?
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>>500744757
>>500744856
She also says some really disturbing stuff without breaking a sweat like suggesting you taste the clearly human meat in those crates. Lulunarde is definitely evil.
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>>500745051
She says reanimate it. I know because I asked her out for burgers after and she said she has a boyfriend.
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>>500745051
Don't be a spoil sport. It's not like you are human anymore anyway. Just have a bite.
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>>500744971
You think we could get a piggyback ride?
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>go to B7F for the fountain
>quickly check the room north of the harken for npcs
>see a silver enemy
>single cursed doll and nothing else
Was kind of hoping for a pack of them, at least it didn't run away.
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I like how Lulunarde sits down and stares at you sometime when you click on your character.
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Can you rename the MC?
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>>500744757

>I just reached the part where her suggestion basically fucked up our second loop("Send Elmon. Let's see what happens~)
>She never apologizes

I find hilarious that the main heroine is like this. It's super refreshing
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>>500745418
She not only doesn't apologize, she says it's not her fault at all.
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>>500745391
If you travel all the way back to your first meeting with Lulu she'll do the naming dialogue again
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>>500745391
? ? ? ?
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>>500745418
Yeah. My tulpa wife is cool like that.
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>>500745463
>>500745556
KEK
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>>500745418
>She never apologizes
Maybe I'm mixing it up with a different death but I swear she talked about it and apologized when I went to use the wheel afterwards.
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Its a lil goofy, but i dig the dwarves' design where their beard and hair cover their face and you only see one eye
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>>500745418
>>500745463
Like she said at the start of the game if you say you'll revive her depending on how useful she is, you'll never be a great adventurer if you rely on a ghost.
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How to summon a cute Tulpa wife like Lulu to haunt me irl
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>>500744757
this thot is plotting on memento cor. the way she nonchalantly says some fucked up shit at times... she's definitely up to something. i got my eye on you, Lulunarde. i got my eye on you.
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It's just bantz, chill
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>>500745754
>i got my eye on you, Lulunarde. i got my eye on you.
Me too. Me too. Picture related.
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>>500745656
nah after you use the wheel and tell her what happens she says its your fault, because your words caused it, and not hers.
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What happens when we kill the 9 other Greater Warped Ones?
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>>500745970
she knows what she's doing. floating around with those delicious thighs and cute feet... succibi!
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>>500745706
I want to see the female dwarfs.
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>>500745970
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>>500746142
That's when the maintenance begins
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>>500746220
Wrong. I've been trying to get a look at your panties. Damn legs are in the way, might as well chop them off. Not like you are using them anyway.
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>>500745656
She talks about it in the wheel scene, but it was basically
>"Don't even think about blaming me for it. The words came out from your mouth."
>>500745726
Makes sense. I just enjoy the fact we have such an unreliable partner. I mean, at that point we were not even aware soft resets were a thing, so yeah, she pretty much doomed the whole adventure. LOL
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1. Why has nobody posted this cutie yet?
2. What the fuck is wrong with her quest? I have killed 8/5 required enemies and the quest doesn't resolve
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>>500741212
The SSR gap is minor, for example I love debras getting sp back on kill but realistically I'm going to leave when my mages are close to oom either way so it doesn't really save time
I think I've gotten every SSR just playing the game normally, in mid 30s for lvl and I've rolled
2 lana + 1 WP lana
4 debras
1 yeka
1 adam
1 alice
1 gerulf
I use 3 of them in main party (lana yeka debra) but I would feel comfortable swapping any of them out (and I have to lvl up others)
if you like a reg named char you can also run the mausoleum a few times to just pick them up, you only need rolls for the SSR really
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Lulunarde didn't sound sad when you were about to die. Don't trust her.
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>>500746472
>Why has nobody posted this cutie yet?

Bricked
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>>500746220
She's doing it on purpose!! That flip is 100% unnecessary!! This little...!!
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>>500746569
You were ignoring her the whole time
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I want to know why Lulu doesn't get included on the loops with our party members. If the justification is that they're needed to help you do something, then does that imply she's not needed? Or that she'd hinder us from doing whatever it is we're meant to do?

From a writing perspective it would be equally easy to write her remembering or not remembering so I assume it's a deliberate choice.
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How do I get out of this predicament?
Out of MP/SP
Didn't expect to get blocked from leaving
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>>500746569
She's not sad because she thinks you'll meet up in the abyss again and have spooky ghost sex
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>>500746846
Lulunarde remembers everything but is pretending she doesn't.
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>>500746862
Accept Death
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>>500746862
You don't :)
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>>500746862
You brought a hook, right?
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>>500746846
She's a ghost
find her body and res her and then she'll start looping with us
probably
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So what skill did you choose to level up with your event books? You did farm for your limited time skill books didn't you? You're not going to be one of those skill-lets right?
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>>500747092
Yes, but it's potentially an anti-brick item.
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>>500746846
>If the justification is that they're needed to help you do something, then does that imply she's not needed? Or that she'd hinder us from doing whatever it is we're meant to do?
That's a genuinely good explanation. That said, i wouldn't call her evil yet since everything involving our power is ominous as fuck. Our mission may not be that noble at all and hindering it might be the right call
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>>500743732
I miss mobius...
>>500743765
early game tier list. He will be S once we get proper gear so he can stack evade
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Is fighting on the hardest setting even worth it in this event?
I feel like the skeletons take too much damage which in turn makes me take unnecessary damage and forces me to retreat earlier
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>>500747229
wait, fuck i cant find it
looks like i didnt bring it
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>>500747329
>early game tier list. He will be S once we get proper gear so he can stack evade
what makes you so sure evade will be worth squat at high level
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>>500747443
>what makes you so sure
i'm a homo, he WILL be S tier for me
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>>500746862
Rest up to get your fortitude back up and try to facetank them otherwise accept death
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One more suspicious Lulu fact before I go: Princess Pulgritte has a few moments where she acts like she can hear Lulu's comments. The knight guy mentioned that some people with a talent for magic have sensitivity to ghosts so either they're hinting the Princess would be a good mage or there's something else weird going on.

>>500747318
Yeah to be fair (we) could be the evil one.
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>>500747523
kek, well enjoy your husbando
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>>500747443
>what makes you so sure evade will be worth squat at high level
The universe's unerring love of making tierlist makers seethe. The actual reason will be that he probably class changes into one of the unreleased classes and he'll be broken as a ninja or whatever
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>>500743765
Chloe will be S tier in PvP against other adventurers, trust the plan
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>>500746862
Walk backwards, go into the room behind you and wait for them to leave?
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>>500745937
Ghost family, you lulu and gary
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Limbus company
>Devs make their first gacha. It's good because it's their first gacha. They don't know how to milk whales so it's very generous.

Wizardry
>Devs make their first gacha. It's bad because it's their first gacha. Every resource is very scarce, even if you whale. tthey don't know how to balance rewards.

Koreangods i kneel...
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>>500745937
>all that screaming after the guillotine dropped
Boy they must have felt vindicated when they saw I was a ghul all along
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How do I get the game to stop crashing on bluestacks when on the page where I have to agree to the user terms? I can't even get into the main menu of the game.
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>>500748096
>It's good
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>>500748096
>it's good
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>>500748096
>good
Bruh.
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Lulu is either a Greater Warped One or the Warlock.
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>>500747359
It really depends on your clearspeed. Ultimately, it's going to be a crystal/hour calculation. If you can easily clear higher difficulties, do it because they're marginally more. If not, clear whatever you can burn the fastest.
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>>500747529
Fortitude was already full
Had only 2 potions and 2 fireball scrolls
3 deaths, but instant revived on the first tick each time
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What's this icon and why am I not seeing anyone?
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>>500748479
She doesn't appear to be aligned with them
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>>500748736
Fake acting shit.
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>>500748590
and it dropped a chest that I failed to detect trap
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>>500747783
>follow up attack
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just beat the greater warped one, then I reconstructed the 2 piles of rocks but nothing changed on F8B, where did the rocks go? Should I just head back or backtrack to some point?
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>>500748986
Damn bratty mountain elf, needs slavery correction.
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>>500749228
Those are the ones he tried to drop on you before the fight
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After you fully clear the event dungeon story, does resetting it respawn the chests?
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>>500747359
>I feel like the skeletons take too much damage which in turn makes me take unnecessary damage and forces me to retreat earlier
Same. I've been grinding on Simplicity difficulty because of that. Has been working fine.
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>>500748096
Project Moon should have made a blobber like they intended to. Imagine this game but with a coat of Limbus Company paint. Dante can already rewind time.
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>>500746472
>>500746604
Can anyone help? By now more people gotta have progressed through the second dungeon, right?
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I moved my Debra to front row as a thief with 82 eva from gear and using SnB
she hits harder than my knight / fighter, always goes first and almost always crits and then gets her sp back
any real fights like bronze grade up I can throw priest evade buff on her and shes good or use hiding / lana cover her
why were people calling it a meme does it fall off after 40?
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>>500748096
>Every resource is very scarce, even if you whale.
By what standards? I've played quite a few gacha games, but this game gives you lots of f2p gems every month it seems.
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>>500749942
Can you just autocombat on easiest mode?
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>actually found a bone again on B6F after I looped back to the albano quest
maybe it is intended
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>>500750202
It takes 5 weeks to get a ten pull... Event gives you TWO pulls... Besides, i'm not even talking about gems. Look at the tags. The skill books. Any resource.
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What giant bird soup does pickerel want?
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>>500750429
>It takes 5 weeks to get a ten pull...
What? You get enough gems for over 22 pulls in a single month.
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>>500750597
Standard bones don't count
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>>500750865
You get 400 gems a month from the daily supplies.
You get 600 a month from the daily pass.
You get 400 a month from the weekly pass.
You get 300 a month from trading 100 gold at the Jeweler every day.
You get 500 a month from trading 2000 guild points at the Jeweler exchange.

That's 2200 gems monthly. Enough to buy an 11 pack of bones every month and with gems to spare.
And it isn't taking daily Event supplies into account. Event passes. Event missions. Things that easily double the aforementioned gem count to over 4000 every month.
And that also isn't counting the actually very large amount of finite one-time gem missions and achievement rewards that springboards first timers with a thousand free gems.
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well it finally happened
hit a chest in b4 of cave of malice and now im bricked for the first time
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How badly am I bricking my exp gain going from 30 to 40?
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>>500751387
Other anons have said opening the event menu or fucking around with a bunch of other menus fixes it.
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>>500750931
>11~ pulls a month
>new banner weekly (before extensions happened)
>save 9 months for spark and skip 36 banners
very generous
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>>500751387
Restart the game and then hit every menu until you can move, you're not even close to bricked.
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>>500750931
My most optimistic estimate is that we'll get enough for a spark every 3 months which is REALLY BAD.
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>>500751661
Ok, bye.
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>>500751489
>>500751661
Oh and the spark is probably going to be worse than the paypig gear. Like if you do 100 pulls on the lana banner and buy another lana instead of the cuisinart, you might be stupid.
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I like free stuff too guys but I think you're overly focused on it.
There's plenty of generous gachas out there. Go play them.
>b-b-b-but [bad thing] will happen to this game
Alright
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>did the glowstone quest twice because I fucked up something in the loop
>wait...
I thought they patched this
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>>500752206
You're trying to talk sense to gachabrains, it won't work.
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>>500750931
>event passes
>event missions
>easily doubling this shitty income
lol
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How do you get the left chest in B4?
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>>500749228
Congrats on beating him, Sayakabro!
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>>500751735
>>500752489
SLUUUURP
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It's over 9000!!!
Seriously though, where to put points? Str easy pick for fighter, but maybe 2hand luck build with extra attack is good (does it trigger with heavy attacks?)
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>>500751489
>>11~ pulls a month
If you ignore ALL event gems. Which appear to be like half the equation.

Savor the Risk 1 had 500 f2p gems.
Savor the Risk 2 had another 500 f2p gems.
And the special supplies from the launch event gave us 2000 gems.
And currently the Lamp of Malice special supplies is giving us 210 gems.

Even if the launch event is replaced with something much worse for future months. That's like half the gem income. And you can assume that a game like this will always have an event ongoing.
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I just sold the item you get for defeating Helmut on NG+, it was some white accessory or some such, happened on accident with bulk sell.
What was it?
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>>500753069
Ok, bye.
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>>500752694
Well. Am I >>500753173 wrong?
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Yeah MAREIN works pretty reliably at 170 divine power, guess farming this won't be so bad after all. It's pretty good exp too, just a shame about no gold.
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>>500753190
a ring that gives you +1 to all atributes
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>>500753173
Retard. The only one of those you can realistically expect for them to keep doing is events like Lamp of Malice. Which is 1 roll worth of gems. You would only expect launch tier rewards from anniversaries.
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>throw everyone out of my team to get killed in the arena
>you have a good mix!
why, thanks tavern lady
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>>500751661
That's a hell of a lot better than a lot of jap gacha and roughly on par with the average chink gacha.
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>>500753190
You can always wheel back and beat up Helmut again to reobtain it, if you care.
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>>500752206
>There's plenty of generous gachas out there. Go play them.

No there aren't. Gacha games are inherently predatory. If they give you something it's only to make you want to buy something else.

Just do what I do. Don't respect the gacha. Buy stupid shit with gems instead of pulling. Class change tomes, den junk, azure ore clumps, whatever you need. They want you to covet pulls, just stop giving a shit about them.
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ALL SHALL BE DEFECATED ON BY AGORA
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>>500753172
>(does it trigger with heavy attacks?)
Appears to just trigger on normal attacks. But if you have a strong 2h weapon, the follow up attack can actually do more damage than Heavy Attack. At least for the first levels.
Of course. Heavy Attack isn't luck based.
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Sure is getting outspoken poorfag in here
Guess I'll buy the event pass
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>>500753745
Savor the Risk pass is actually one of the best values i've ever seen in a gacha game.

Lamp of Malice pass is actual dog ass.
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>monetization this
>income that
I'm not here to play a slot machine simulator, I'm here to play a dungeon crawler for free until I get too busy or lose interest.
>but you won't be able to progress without muh meta--
It'll be fine, I don't have a whale-induced degenerative brain disease.
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>>500753941
>one of the best values i've ever seen in a gacha game
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emulatorchads, is this a common visual bug? any way to fix it? what are the best options to pick? something that helps with anti-aliasing would be nice
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>>500753941
The problem is that it just gives you bones for the current banners instead of currency to save for future banners. Chink games got everyone hooked to the idea of cheaply managing currency to guarantee what they wanted when it released at a later date, while this system saddles you with a Sword of Damocles over your head perpetually knowing that you might get fucked on the future banner you want.
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Wheres the rhodium at?
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>>500754191
God damn I want to rape this generic.
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>>500754328
F6, fail the two last teleports
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>>500754465
ah that would have taken me long to find out
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>>500754191
Well, "value".
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>>500753414
>Retard. The only one of those you can realistically expect for them to keep doing is events like Lamp of Malice.
Why the fuck would you assume that?
Savor the Risk 1 is tied to Wandering Lana's banner.
Savor the Risk 2 is tied to Gerard's banner.

Who knows. Maybe I'll get BTFO:d and eat my words. But I'm still willing to bet that every single non-repeat banner will have its own pass tied to it.
Maybe they'll nerf the passes. But I don't see a reason to assume why this wouldn't just be the standard.

Lamp of Malice is different because it's the first pass that's not tied to a banner but to an event. That's why the event is focused on event-currency instead of gems. But even then the Lamp of Malice pass still gives you 200 gems. And the Lamp of Malice special supplies gives 210. So that's 410 total.
And I actually forgot to mention the Lamp of Malice pass altogether in >>500753173. So that should have had another 200 gems listed.

But really. When we get another banner do you seriously think it won't have a pass with f2p gems? Or are you just convinced it'll be Lamp of Malice tier? In spite of them being different categories of passes and we'll just get another event to replace Lamp of Malice to run concurrent with said banner. With both passes running at the same time.
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>>500754780
>Savor the Risk 2 is tied to Gerard's banner.
It's not. It's also Lana's banner. It's only the 2nd banner and they already stopped doing it.
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>>500754780
>Savor the Risk 1 is tied to Wandering Lana's banner.
>Savor the Risk 2 is tied to Gerard's banner.
2 was released with Gerard's banner but it still gave Lana bones.
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Just Savor the Risk and pull instead of saving up for a guarantee.
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>>500690367
Took me 20k gold in upgrades and two tries and barely scraped by then I realized you can just buy it in the shop but I appreciate the difficulty after playing one too many games that try handhold you through everything.
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Is there such a thing as a daily gem pack like practically every other gacha offers, or no?
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>>500755161
Nope.
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>>500755161
yes. jewler shop, 100 gold.
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>daily gem pack
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>>500755271
The devs are so generous. You can purchase daily gems with in-game currency.
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>>500755272
Do you think doctor clang to her back while her husband fucked her and just stared at him?
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>>500755272
I just got to the third chapter of her story and i didn't understand what was happening
Was she under the control of the skull initially?
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>>500755161
Closest is the mission pass (turquoise), which unlocks the 2nd row rewards in your daily/weeklies.
This is an extra 20 gems per day and about half a legendary bone worth of guild mats.
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>>500755646
This would only be worth it if they add new legendaries to the bones. Do we know if they will?
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Anyone manage to trigger the pickerel quest by going here( as stated in the rentry)? Nothing happens when I try at arena 3(church route with the knowledge).
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neat.
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>>500756615
>+div
>only 2*
Meh.
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Redpill me on daggers. What do they do differently compared to bows?
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>>500756360
We'll have to wait for banners to end to find out.
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>>500756789
They should be compared to swords, not bows since both need front row positions. They get some bonus crit based off dex instead of str bonuses.
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>>500756789
Bonus to sure hit rate based on dex. Keeping in mind thieves get bonus sure hit damage.
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>>500756615
Defense power decrease on a dagger doesn't seem very worthwhile when armor break exists or a mage can do defense down on a full row. I wouldn't worry about the debuff uptime enough to start needing it on standard attacks too. Plus if a thief is using Hiding then they're going to bypass defense
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>>500756789
Their niche is higher crit chance based on dex
They keep the same melee penalties as other weapons though unless you exclusively use sneak attack
They also have the lowest attack so defense fucks up your damage unless you're exclusively using thief abilities that ignore defense like Precision Strike or Sneak attack.
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>>500757067
I don't think it's worth it either but only because you're giving up a potential elemental/family weakness weapon to use it.
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has anyone sent an inquiry and gotten a reply? About 5 days ago I spent gems on the wrong item, asked them if they could roll it back and haven't heard a response. I haven't used any adventurer bones since, just to ensure that I'm not messing with the system but I'm getting ansy...

Also, when you change classes do your stats reset? Do you keep your spells? I wouldn't mind changing Yeketanaria a Priest, but I did throw her 9 bonus points right into IQ
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>>500748719
Known visual bug
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>>500756789
ive used em on front row thieves and knights seems okay
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>>500757472
yes, i told them about the missing 4 hp bug, they replied yesterday and said they fixed it (they haven't)
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>know you'll release around halloween
>first event after release
>chance to do something cool and leave good first impression
>make a reskin of the grade up cave with some undead gimmick that barely fits
Couldn't they have done something a little actually spooky? some gothic castle with vampires or even just reskinning the mausoleum if they're going for spooky scary skeletons
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>>500700735
Take the front row Valdor pill
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>>500757954
thanks, I'll give them one more day. Ironically I just got another Lanavaille so I'm in a good spot. Is there any way to transfer experience from one hero to an inditical one? I think I put all the bonus points of the old one into strength and that was silly. She's only level 11, I'm not far in yet
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>>500757151
To be honest their attack isn't that much lower than swords(other than the gacha ones). If def is fucking up your daggers it's pretty likely a sword too.
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>>500748276
>>500748276
anybody?
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>>500743765
I got him with 1 tenner
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>>500758397
Android 11 and Vulkan?
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>>500758016
daaamn. i don't think soil can roll better than that.
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>>500758016
>actually getting soil weapons with worthwhile blessings
Explode.
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>>500758362
I think daggers are underestimated, especially on Wanderer. The boost to action speed and accuracy can be valuable.
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>>500758468
Yeah, started since last patch
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What are you currently farming? Gear, gold, main exp, alt exp, event, something else?
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>>500758362
I'm using a dagger of the soil on my lana because I can't find a sword of the soil even after a gorillion runs, and it works out just fine against everything but slimes.
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>>500758016
>purple 3* steel-tier weapon
>double attack rolls
>SUR

damn nice
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What does Resistance do? Does it only prevent debuffs from landing or does help with dodging magic attacks?
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did i miss a hint or something

wtf is this statue puzzle in B6F
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>>500759236
Check the corpse in the same room as the statues.
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>We offer to take the barefoot loli we revived back to town this time
Kinda weird we left her to die the first loop
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>>500759230
It's debuff resistance.

I don't believe we have any data for how effective it is. I know Eldorado's stun tolerance by itself doesn't seem to do a god damn thing.
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character bond is real
some nip did it on stream
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There. I got all the codexes and bones from the event. I've finished farming.
Back to grinding Dungeon 2 for the two other faction endings...Surely Octo can't be that hard now.
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My gold situation is pretty tight, should I bother leveling some trash undead bane gear just for the event dungeon?
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>>500759460
Valdor's bond skill at level 1 increases IQ by 1.
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Can you farm the heather shields from the first mission? The ones you choose to either keep or give to the guards
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>>500759785
OH MY GOD
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>>500759460
What I wonder if you can do skill inheritance and skill get the bondmate.
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>>500759785
IQ? From a priest?
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I was planning on going back to town after the ghost. Am I really going to have to fight 3 more encounters with no mp and sp before I can keave?
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>>500759569
I honestly wouldn't recommend it
There's not use for it in the 2nd dungeon and you get better stuff anyway
Your mage and priest should be able to handle undead
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>>500758274
>She's only level 11, I'm not far in yet
if your new one is better I would just wait until you have mages and clear a few trash packs on b7f
11 is only around 13k xp and somewhere around 78k for 20 i'm fairly certain my numbers are off a bit but thats the range I shoot for
for reference you can get 3k+ on a lot of the b7f trash packs with lower lvl characters, I've ran a few chars through it and if you keep them 20 or lower it actually relatively quick to get them to 30 that way too
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>>500759525
>I got all the codexes
what skill are you spending them on?
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>dumped all my bonus points into primary stats
>class changing exists
Maybe the Luck/Speed GODs were onto something.
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At the junction "Warped One Vanquished", how do you unlock the first tab (probably nobody died?)
On NG+ I only managed that the defender still died
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>>500759928
Yes, 知恵
Piety would be 信仰心
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>>500760569
and a ching chong nip non to you too young lady.
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>>500760412
Repeat the first fight against a warped one at the end of B1F. Even on NG+ I think it won't give you the best option at first. The text seems to be copied over from another choice (probably makes sense to share them in JP but not ENG), send the Defenders
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>>500760262
I'm not :)
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how the fuck do you even farm den of earth
there's barely any chests in this piece of shit map, they're all surrounded by spike traps that drain fortitude
and the chests contain like maybe 1 ore at best, 1 junk if you're lucky
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Your main team? Turned into bonds.
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>>500761259
you buy it with gems from the daily shop :^)
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>>500761259
Dino, Jarmil
OOOOHH WIND
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How's playing on emulator?

I can't imagine doing the movement input on PC, seems awful, but if there's a widescreen hack, that would sell it.
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>>500761259
rush to boss
take the fortitude hit
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>>500761527
Literally just bind WASDQE to movement
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>>500761527
uwot?
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>>500761527
It controls fine with the mouse too, basically just tap and hold/swipe
Playing with 60 FPS and on PC feels like a cheat for the chests and revive minigame compared to playing on phone lmao
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>>500761259
>>500761592
Rushing the boss is a trap. Clear ~half the map, finish with the boss.
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>>500761595
How's that possible if you need sliding input?
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>>500761595
how do you bind them if you have to drag to move
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>>500761956
>>500761987
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How do I get Lead Grade Tags for my Bronze Exam? I only have one ungraded Tag and I did my weekly already even bought the 3 shop ones
Can you retire characters for them? I even have a second party that needs to do their lvl20 Lead Grade.
WHERE ARE THE TAGS
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>tfw filtered by the statue puzzle
bros...
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>>500762162
the statues are supposed to be your party
the riddle in the corpse is different each time, depending on what it says, you restore or break certain statue if you have a mage or humans in certain positions etc
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>>500761921
>Clear ~half the map
takes way too fucking long
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>>500762064
dismiss some Pri-chans
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>>500762064
Yeah, you dismiss adventurers, named ones give you two, generics give you one and SSR ones give you an iron tag or two apparently
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>Would you like the exit the abyss?
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>>500762358
Do you know what takes long? Rushing to the boss and getting trash from the chest
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kPDdgKkou_A
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>>500762374
>>500762383
how exactly do I do that?
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>>500762628
better than exploring the map and getting trash from chests
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>>500762698
Training room
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>>500762778
>Use aoe
>Enemy group dies
So difficult
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>>500759460
Datamining is gonna go wild I think, no one will want to risk doing that shit on a 6* not knowing if it's a shit bond or not.
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>>500762278
thank you
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>>500762698
In the menu of the tavern, bottom left, adventurer list and then you can dismiss them, including ones you haven't registered
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>>500759460
who dis how she get tha map layout on the screen
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Now that we know character bonds are real, how do we farm friendship?
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How to go to Port Town?
I already beat Helmut twice, then I time traveled to get daily bones. Now I don't see Port Town. Do I need to beat Helmut again?
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>>500763171
Think she just put screenshots up.
But here's the timestamped part of when she dismisses Valdor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prO_1vws5J0&start=294
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>Search for Lambert
This request safe to do?
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>>500763562
>lvl 47

RIP all that exp.
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>>500763562
that confirms it, once you get this heart on the stat sheet you can dismiss them
seems like they were doing 1 fight then resting to grind affection
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So I have to dismiss 24 adventurers to get my whole party to Iron from Bronze??? Is it even worth it right now or is sitting at 40 good enough?
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>>500764106
That's nothing, you have to dismiss 2048 of them to get to orihalcum. Better get buying gems.
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which floors of cave of malice do i get bat wings and rat teeth? ive been wandering around for a while
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>>500764059
>>500764106
>>500764187
how to go to port town?
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I will not be farming affinity for bonds.
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>>500764551
If you accepted the request after killing helmut there should be a second page in the cursed wheel.
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>>500764106
I would only do it for MC and maybe a mage right now.

Only the true Melgina fight is really hard at 40, everything else is doable.
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>>500764587
>he doesn't want human-pri-chan to be with him forever
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>>500764647
yes i see it. now how to go to port town?
there is nothing in edge of town, tavern, temple, inn, blacksmith, jeweler, shop, ruins
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I refuse to dismiss anyone for tags
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>>500764954
world map.
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>>500765025
oh shit i forget it. lmaooo. ty.
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Barbara is EXTREMELY TALL! WOAH!!! Too bad all the other beast girls look a lot cuter.
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So is there a db or wiki to get all the currently available lamp?
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>>500764106
Oops, I made an Iron tag when I only needed a bronze one...
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>>500697985
How are you getting close up shots with them facing you? every time I do it they're facing to the side
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>>500765390
well switch it back duh
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yo what the fuck can you permanently lose mental points? one of my fighters has 90 at full cap instead of the usual 100.
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>>500765618
no, they just sometimes get pulled that way.
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>>500765390
Haha I did that too..
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>>500765618
Consider yourself lucky that you didn't roll the 2% chance for them to have 80!

What kind of demented gacha is this
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>>500765768
The kind that considers your SSRs disposable.

If you pull an 80fort, 5 bonus character, start considering who to inherit them onto.
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>>500765618
Say it with me: BRICKED

B-R-I-C-K-E-D
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>>500765452
You can't... unless you need 2 to also downgrade? That'd be so funny hahahaha
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>>500766000
>>500766000
>>500766000
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>>500765959
Yes you can are you stup--

Shit, you really can't. What the fuck is this game.
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>>500766103
everyday we find a new way to brick yourself
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Where the fuck i can find the animal parts?
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>>500766586
there is a bug, if your maps don't look like this then you are bricked, and you can never ever find the animal part
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>enemy is staring at you
SHIT WHAT DO I DO



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