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Event:
Lamp of Malice

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Wanderer Princess Lanavaille
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Previous >>500766000
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Devs already said the content release will be slow since they're too busy fixing bugs. I expect it will take 3 months for the next big content drop, unless they already finished it before launch.
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>>500857767
>>500858220
Oh I know what Astra is
I've played it for a couple of months myself
Was just wondering what you anons meant by that
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>>500858142
How many mermaid statues are there? I got the 3° and 4° on B3F, but I ain't ever bothered to check them
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If she loses -1 fort whenever she fucked up, my thief should also gain +1 fort whenever she successfully disarms a chest
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I don't like the event simply because of how long it takes to farm the notable rewards.
2400 for the bones is fine, by the time you finish the story you will have enough.
But the skill books? You're going to have to spend hours farming, and not only you will have to go against bugs (such as the map simply disappearing), but you will also always be at loss because there's no valuable drops.
So fuck it, I'll just go back to farming Port Town since I can unlike in the event, there I'm actually seeing myself accumulating gold and items.
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>>500859459
You're not meant to get the books.
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doomposting

the game is too good
they cannot continue that level of quality going forward, you can already see the dropoff in immersion between the beginning abyss story and the waterway

it was fun for the first week, but have no hope for the future content releases, just play through the story and quit
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>>500858520
Characters fighting with broken chains around their their neck/wrists are so badass. Wandering's princess outfit is also pretty cool, but not as memorable imo
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>On 2nd run
>Hardstuck on the bossfight on b2 floor
>Blew through money reviving
>Broke and cant revive my best
>Dont have enough anti undead gear to do other things
>Flatout unlucky in earth dungeon
>Farming b1 for xp and money is painfully slow
Fellas i feel softlocked, the fuck can I do
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>>500857817
>>500857592
Getting back to 30 with my MC was pretty fast? Used exp books to get to level 12 and from there he could accompany them wherever

Didn't realize last thread was dead kek
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>>500859459
books are ultra important tho
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>I only have business with corpses
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>>500859781
>b2
Did you try to take both?
Do you know what defend is?
Defend with your frontline and perform and use someone on the backline to attack on the openings.
Hardest part is when boss unleashes his breath.
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>>500859530
Why do you keep repeating this?
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>>500859781
Whats your lineup?
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>>500859781
You can take both at around 23~24ish. Otherwise just take 1.
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Trust in the plan
In two weeks, new dungeon/content/story progress. Reliable guild tags and gold. New character gacha.
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>>500859781
>Hardstuck on the bossfight on b2 floor
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>>500860119
HopeCHAD...
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HOW DO I FARM FOR EVENT CURRENCY?????
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>>500859745
I think the biggest problem is that the devs have spent how many years making this game so far, and the content they made in that time would last a normal player for like 1 month. And the content has 1 million bugs.

Can you really imagine how long it would take them to make an equal amount of new content, and make it playable?
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>>500860029
Just let go.
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>>500860213
>*YES!*
>*Jobs horribly*
>"In retrospect please help me..."
Such a demoralizing moment for me
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>>500860295
Bugs aside, i'm kinda hoping they already have the basics of dungeon making figured out and are able to dish a new one every month or so.
New story chapters should take a little longer, but anyone playing gacha games should be used with this for now
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>>500859781
You tried to take them both, didn't you.

In the future, if you have a lot of dead, it's better to just let yourself die and use up a flame, rather than have to revive multiple corpses at the temple.
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>>500860293
Go to B4F. Kill everything. Leave.
Repeat.
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Do you anons think Lepsum will be a recurring character?
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Why is Melgina still giving me water protection on the 2nd loop? Did i do something wrong?
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>>500860213
I gotta say this is pretty based by the devs.
>Give an ego test
>every newbie fails it
>soft lock themselves because they refuse to swallow their pride and fight only one
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>>500858142
I love how Yeka has started smiling towards me ~
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>>500860453
>NG+
>always pick the new dialogue option
>cruising along like a badass mystery nigga that knows all about the dungeon, showing off for the NPCs
>"I can take them both"
>game is suddenly here to remind you you're still playing Wizardry
Many such cases
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>>500860975
Let me guess anon you cleared the boss but, didn't bother rewinding to save the wizard.
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>go forward with the most ubiquitious race
man fuck you game should've just said a parameter
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Consider this:
Lulu going full Priest-chan
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>>500861204
>most ubiquitious race
Humans. It says so right in the game's help section.
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>>500861003
I would've 100% spended the next 2 weeks grinding for this if not by the event. Never compromise!
Except i did...
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>>500861182
Y-yes...
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>>500861339
I didn't know if it meant lore wise or the most plentiful in my party being 3 elves
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Well that wasn't so bad
Bronze exam was harder
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>>500861086
Hehe, she looks super cute here
>>500861304
Rude!
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>>500861549
So cool...
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>>500860213
>"Wait, those eyes. You truly believe you can do this, don't you?"
Yes. Yes I do. And I did.
It was real, real tough. And it was a super close call. And sadly, Barbara actually fell near the end. But I took on both and I won.
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>writing down the correct choices for tavern and camp events
>some characters' reactions I can't tell whether they are neutral or disliking
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>ancient necromancer that terrorized the country
>sealed away for who knows how long because no one could defeat him at his prime
>bounty: 3500 gold
Man fuck this kingdom
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>>500861549
Shower
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Dumb question. I'm supposed to keep falling into traps in the earth den?
What is the strat there?
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>>500861821
And then the game actually tricks you with some of them, like if you tell Alice she can do whatever she wants she gets mad at you for saying you will interfere
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>>500861934
I think Alice is just autismo as fuck, everyone else gives pretty understandable responses
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>>500861871
why you little
it was indeed somewhat weak
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>>500861871
Maybe the MC is actually evil in the end and gets to destroy everything
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>>500861731
Niiiiice
>Basically the same party i was using except i had Viviana instead of Amelia
Now, i don't wanna blame her but
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>>500861871
You know what's weirder? The pickaxe costed 3000 so if you got it your reward is effectively only 500 gold.
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>>500861915
Not really. There are a few unavoidable ones if you're aiming for the boss but ideally your mage/thief's detect trap will be high enough to stop you from stepping on all of them

>>500861871
Please understando, the princess has never heard of taxes before and the king is currently Helmut's 1H sword.
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>>500861915
The map has several layouts but the start, end, and trap positions are fixed. Once you've sprung every trap, you will see them in future runs and be able to avoid them.
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>*giggles*
cute
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>>500862006
I actually have a pretty good reading on Alice, but can't please Yek to save my life
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>>500861934
I think those choices might be swapped in the code
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>>500862081
>>500862075
We should be able to bill the kingdom for on-the-job expenses
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>>500862205
>>500862214
Oh thanks! I thought the traps positions would change too
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>>500862053
LMAO
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>>500862280
Yeka seems to like pragmatic answers, and she's firmly neutral when it comes to anything related to morals
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Imagine busting down a slave trafficking ring and getting a cut on your reward because you borrowed personel from your employee even though he himself comissioned you to solve it.
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>>500862292
NTA but I wouldn't be surprised.
With Lana if she asks you which drink you should have, Mead and Milk are mixed.
I still don't know which one is better but I always pick the breastmilk
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Lulu and Lana nudes when
Under their clothes I bet they have sexy bodies....
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>>500862265
How can one ghostwaifu be so smug?
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>>500862053
Was this scene different if you had not saved king yet? I had knight commander come and praise me and this knight was forced to praise me too
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You know what I need are some smug anime girls redrawn as Lulu
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It's kind of crazy how nonchalant Lulu was when you're about to be executed, even though it should mean that you wouldn't have been able to go and revive her.

Does she know something we don't?
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I read on the nip boards that the mausoleums. I guess the bones are on a monthly cooldown?
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>>500862542
Heh. I'm gonna try using this as reference next time i interact with her
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>>500862635
Lulu is a Leg Goddess
Lana is the Cowgirl
We need the Booty and the Pits Queens
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>>500863029
It's kind of crazy how couple jobber guards were able to capture us but absolute elites died to shitty spike pitfall traps
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>>500862635
I'm sorry but this is the elmon/almond lewding thread.
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>>500861871
>Most of the soldiers are arrogant pricks, also their positions are mostly based on their family backgrounds
>Nobility just shifts the blame on the commoners and beheads them as a morning routine
>Sheltered bitch of a princess
I gotta admit that they portray medieval nobility fairly well, but why the FUCK are we helping them? After the first loop I would just let them rot
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>>500863038
Mine are still all taken
Please do share any information about it tho because I didn't do a ton of runs yet
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>>500863029
A couple threads ago we've had a fun theory about how what our main character actions may be lowkey pretty bad and Lulu is trying to sabotage us/hindering our progress. She softlocked us when she told us to send Elmon. Our adventure was pretty much over at that point
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>>500863249
The moment I'd unlocked the cursed wheel, I'd try my best to bring the kingdom to ruins.
I'd keep looping back to the past when setbacks in my plan appeared, or to simply make as many nobles and snub people suffer as possible.
Rather, wouldn't that be a very interesting idea for a campaign?
Make as many people as miserable as possible while trying to survive against the elites who want to stop you.
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So does anything come out of the oar collector request with ugo the orphan?Sent him to Rickert and she got pissy but no bondmate. Wondering if it takes time like Ira.
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>>500863640
You now have to beat the boss of port then return to Rickert's shop and there you'll find Ugo and get his bond.
He gives action speed one of the best in the game.
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What if Lulu knows what's in our chest and is hiding it?
There must be a reason why her advice either makes me a little angry, or other people hostile to me when I follow it.
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>>500862080
I really couldn't have survived another turn. Even in that screenshot, everyone have already gotten Lana's post-battle passive heal of 22hp (since I've got her skill at lvl2). So everyone except Alice had 22hp less.
Alice could have defended against one hit. Everyone else would have died from anything else hitting them.

It took quite a few attempts though. But I just couldn't quit. In my very first attempt, I killed one of the two ents, and had the last ent around 200hp or something I am betting. It was super close but then I got dunked by a chop and fell.
But because my very first attempt was so close that I couldn't bring myself to give up. But ironically enough, even after getting better gear and upgrading all of it, my attempts directly following that first attempt, went worse.
But eventually I refined my strategies and squeezed out a super close victory. But it felt real, real good.
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dismissed a disciplined ssr and got an iron tag
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We love Lulunarde here
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What to do with Yekaterina dupes? Feed her to herself or feed her to my MC?
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>>500863249
I like Dylanheardt though. Guy really is doing the best he can, even if he is a bit dumb. He's okay in my book.
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>>500863837
Thanks, luckily warping to "return to the capital" works and he was there.
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>>500861871
>>500862053
What I wonder is if the difficulty level chosen at the altar at the entrance affects the quest reward somehow. Or at least the dialogue at the end.
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>>500864534
I did it impassable the whole way and I don't think so, just slightly more powder.
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>>500863902
It wouldn't suprise me at all. Also, as the other anon pointed it out it's strange how she doesn't remember a thing about the other loops. This pretty much implies she's not important/good to our mission. That or she's lying.
>>500864075
Badass! Winning hard fights in this game feel awesome. I'm still proud about beating that skull fucker in the lead grade up exam
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>>500863902
I think she's related to your chest tumor. She's bound to the abyss, but was able to leave but only in your proximity (also probably what allows you to see her). I also find highly suspicious how she knows/remembers a bunch of things and yet she can't tell how and where she died. What was she doing in there anyways? And no other ghosts ever shows up? I think she IS part of the abyss or the actual abysslord.
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>>500864291
Pretty sure he's competent commanding troops on a open battlefield, but he and his men are just not built for the abyss
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Character investment feels TOO deep in this game. The power creep will have to be absolutely crazy to make people want to replace characters that have had like 100+ other units dumped into them in the form of discipline, skill inheritance and tags for grade ups. Rolling new characters will be pointless for anyone other than the most giga of whales.
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They keep dying because they aren't following the ancient secret rule of ONLY 6 PEOPLE IN A GROUP
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>Barbara has thief class change
No, why the fuck? I expected Fighter not Thief.
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>>500865005
they will just make new chars have busted inheritance skills so you roll them
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>>500865005
Yeah, i'm at lvl 23 and i've already got too attached to my main party. I can only guess elemental damage will become more and more important to the point not taking an optimal team gonna hurt your performance badly
>>500865008
It works for Pokémon
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>>500864705
What if she's the actual sealed abysslord and this is a convoluted plan to release her body, which requires the king as one of the keys to reach her body for example. The cursed wheel was implanted upon you to guarantee this plan succeeded
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I will not roll for anyone except a female beastkin priest or wizard.
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I will not roll anyone because I spent all my gems on Lana and have 200 left
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>>500865428
Earlier I was thinking that (we) may be the baddies and Lulu is actually someone who can keep the abyss sealed but now I'm not so certain since that's exactly what they did in the event
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>>500858041
>Such lack of dithering is unbecoming of a mountain elf.
I wish I understood how to make it better, but pixel art is waaay above me. Still going to adjust it bit by bit until satisfied. At least it's somewhat better than first attempts, I guess.
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Any trick to shagtis after finishing pickles quests? Or should I just keep defending and healing
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>>500865830
Please share. Looks great. I want to use them too.
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>>500866012
just keep defending/healing for around 5 turns
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if i've been using a character for the entire game and then roll another of the same character, will the affection of the new character start at zero?
I was thinking of replacing the 90 fortitude
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>>500866217
Another great question would be if the Grade and Discipline level transfer to the new character
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The knights and soldiers keep dying because the ancient unspoken rule of the abyss.
There are many reasons for it, but simply put, If a group of more than six people enters the Abyss, people will die.
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>>500865005
But you know what WILL sell it? Bonding interactions.

Asian people also have this mentality where they have to have the top thing everyone else has.
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>>500866091
I've only done Elise and Elf-Mag so far. If catbox doesn't mess with colors in any way, you should be able to just copy-paste them in Cosmic Forge portrait editor.
https://catbox (dot) moe/c/93l547
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How do I unlock the thief class change for the MC? Does it takes long?
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Just found the bronze boss, but I'm kinda low on resources. Might give it a shot anyway, anything I should try against it?
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>>500864290
I think you can inherit her own skill to greater efficacy than mere Discipline. Idk tho. I just disciplined mine because I did. It understand the systems, just started out, and was savoring the risk.
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do you use warrior's battle cry?
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>>500867845
Do i hit 500 a blow?
Yes.
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Gandolfo-kun my beloved
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I'm at 1/6
Trying to get a female thief with at least 100 mentality since all the ones I've got are either 80 or 90
Already got pic related 3 times
What to do
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>>500868159
Do another Tomb in-between
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>>500868159
yea i wasnt paying attention and ended up raising philip and amelia they both have 80 lmao
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>>500868338
I'm only level 30 and haven't even finished floor 2 of port town (I'm afraid of entering the water).
I was only able to clear the thief tomb because of a picture another anon posted.
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Currently at B5. After entering a room with a purple portal, an enemy spawned near the corpse saying "Do not go into the east room." Now stuck on a black screen, tried clear cache still didn't work.
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Are main rewards from the 3 paths repeatable? Like the skill or the pearl?
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>>500867430
Well that was awful, ran out of mp really early and she kept spamming full row attacks. I think I'll finish leveling my thief MC so I can swap back to fighter and then have the whole front row do nothing but defend
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>>500867845
I have mc battlecry while lana all covers
with porto, caldia and heavy strike 3 he shits out like 1k dmg a turn at 40
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>>500868515
All the Tombs look the same the only difference is the enemies you encounter (and the centaur spawn points)
I'm doing Fighter right now and it's a breeze going the right route since I don't find any undead boss squadron or the centaur on my way to the chest
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>>500864291
Love how taken he is with "The Man from the Abyss" to the extent that he'll let you do the 2v1 no matter how bad of an idea it is
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Where do (You) get the Undead Ward bracelet?
It's really been a life-saver in the Tombs and the Necro Event
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>>500864291
>tells others to stop bullying you for being a schizo
he's /ourguy/
except when he still sends you to death if you tell Elmon NOT to save the knights and she does it anyway
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>>500864269
Made a small edit for the ghost wife
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Those NPCs would be much more likeable if they were female instead of dudes.
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Is Elmon a Samurai class character?
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Daily reminder that elves make the best Fighters
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Beat Octonarus again.
Is there anything in the lair worth caring about? There's something about a wall but I can't find it.
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>>500869560
Must've been one-time reward either from a chest or request (undead horde most likely). I've actually completely forgot about it, it's on my Clarissa who runs dispatches.
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At least Fighter Tomb gives you guaranteed Steel weapons if you fail a Bone
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I think the crucible mausoleum resets monthly?
I swear I was 5/5 but I'm 0/5 right now
my guide is also back and I know he died when I was grinding maus last month
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Bros I love killing gobbos but I'm going to go insane if I don't find the last steel lump soon
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>>500863164
Your guy solo'd Helmut, and all the knights being used as corpse puppets, in that timeline. You were probably out of gas when they jumped you at the Harken.
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Got it again :(
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>>500870627
there's a switch on the wall that opened a hidden room
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>>500861182
i saved the mage, cleared the boss, still the same
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>>500870998
I used the fountain after Helmut though
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>>500871204
Thanks.

Also, it says I should get a PIE lantern for completing the route but I didn't. Is there a specific trigger to it? Can you only get one lantern, or can you get each lantern for each true end?
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>>500871263
Good now you got the funny little book.
Now go reread every statue using your new book then you'll be allowed to begin the true route.
Be warned the boss is brutal.
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>>500871429
I didn't get the book. I'm sure mage is alive, he was in the ending cutscene. Am i missing something?
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Does sparing the villainous looking adventurers on B4 come back to bite me later?
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>>500871593
Are you sure you just didn't skip through it?
The mage gives you the the merfolk lexicon during that cutscene.
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>>500858142
I feel like this might be a stupid question
If I class change MC from knight lvl 40 to fighter 1 and then go back to knight do I have to relvl it from 1?
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>>500871760
No, class levels are retained
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>>500871423
i don't think you need to do true end for PIE lantern. i got mine from defeating Melgina on Princess route afterall. try to defeat Melgina instead of Octo?
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>>500871750
I saved the mage before first fight. Then did first + second + saw the cutscene of mage fighting and winning. Then i jumped into 5th fight, defeated the boss, saw the credits
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>>500867078
Thanks! I saved them. And I'll use them the next time I play the game.
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>>500871809
That's very good news
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I perhaps foolishly accepted Randolf's sidequest for a crystal-mining pick at level 20 rather than just pay him the gold and, through much appreciation for Sleep, have completely cleared out this goddamn goblin nest on Floor 3 of the Beginning Abyss.

I've also only found 2 of the 3 Lumps of Black Steel, and I feel like I'm going crazy trying to find the 3rd before I leave this place and the gobbos (probably) respawn.

Anybody vaguely recall the three locations? I'm pretty sure I got the dumping pit area one, and the northern 'conversation ambush' one.
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>>500871967
Oh, I see. The Rentry misattributes it. It says Church has a lantern by default, but I can confirm it doesn't. I didn't get a lantern. I suspect there is a LUK for completing all three.
Okay, time to make Pikarel be saved.
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Curious
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>>500872340
For me, it's Rousing
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>>500872076
And you spoke to the mage after he won his fight right?
Otherwise you'll need to post your cursed wheel because that should make the game give you the lexicon to you every single time.
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>>500872224
https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/880077
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>>500872501
you can speak to the mage? where is he?
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>>500871204
I might be retarded, I genuinely can't find it. Where is it, roughly?
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>>500871739
Imagine if they backstabbed Albano or something much later in the dungeon
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>>500872591
found him, hopefully it works
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>>500864269
We hate lulunarde here
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>>500872551
Much appreciated. Be blessed with excellent bones.
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>>500872664
should've been around this part. there should be something shiny around there.
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>>500873045
Thanks, I just found out that the shine doesn't appear unless you're on the tile it's on, which is what caused my issue.
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Finally got something nice from hte Den of earth. Heavy armor chestpiece
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>>500873170
>that the shine doesn't appear unless you're on the tile it's on
Weird since that doesn't seem to be the case for shines in the event dungeon. Am I going to have to return to my old EO wall-humping ways?
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I actually feel really cool. Using the cursed wheel to successfully save everyone against all odds.
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>>500865830
These are very good! You've done a good job of capturing the Wizardry 6 style!

Is there a way of adding new music to the game? I've always wanted to add more music to it... maybe we could work together!
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>Teasing the weak can at times be entertaining
Not fooling me with your cuteness Alice. She'll sacrifice you to her god the moment you let your guard down.
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>>500873712
Good job anon! It definitely feels nice.
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>>500873786
She heals me when I let my guard down tho
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>I... need... to make dinner...
Of course it was her
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>>500874202
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You really get reminded of the appeal of DRPGs when every encounter is potentially game ending.
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So do we know what is their second Class?
Asha is Priest, right?
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>>500874895
>ambush
>oh they're just level 30
>>>elite hobgob
>3x HACK on MC
>RISE AGAIN
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>>500875136
Lvl up knight MC for the ambush passive...
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>Yeka patting the sleeping Doctor at the inn
Cute
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>>500874895
I wish that was also true in 2nd dungeon
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>>500860295
that's basically exactly what i said
just look at this first event, it's a boring slog and expecting any better in the future is setting yourself up for disappointment
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>>500875108
You can check in the training room
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>>500875108
check rentry
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>>500859745
Waterway is fine. But compare main story to the event story. Event is TRASH. Cursed wheel is not even properly used, it's just a restart button...
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>>500860295
They will take the Genshin roadmap. 1 new dungeon every year.
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OST or BGM datamine when
I need my Sakimoto fix
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>At 3k gold because of upgrading gear
>Died in arena to unwinnable BS.
>Need 50k gold to revive my team
What do i do now...
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new bug just dropped
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Oh neat this event dungeon is bigger than I thought.
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For whoever maintains the Rentry, Pickarel's Soup quest seems to be wrong.
I'm warping to Arena Battle 3 on the Church Route and he's simply not where the image says. Either there's a step missing here (I already killed him and have his knowledge) or this isn't the right jump.
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>>500875843
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>>500870483
Bro, your potions?
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>>500870483
I like the visual effect when you're at low HP, it always stresses me out
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>>500876007
Time to bring out the B team
Worst case scenario you can spend a week doing dispatch missions...
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>>500875843
>At 3k gold because of upgrading gear
Big mistake, always stay at least on 20k so you can revive 2 or 3 characters and then go farm for more. Or at least enough for your mage at higher levels and can go powerlevel new party
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>>500875989
rentry anon here. yeah. someone in the previous thread mentions that too. like you said. i think there's a step missing. for reference.i did that quest after clearing all 3 routes.
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>>500870483
I barely managed a win against this fucker earlier today. Completely out of MP, Potions, and everyone with Red HP.
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Has anyone tried making macros? What kind of macro did you make? I'm thinking about making B7F quest one and leave it overnight to lvl up alt Chars
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>some based nip used the code I gave last night
I don't even know if I got anything or not but it's nice to know someone used it.
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>>500876541
Long 'Communicating' or Retry boxes will fuck you over sooner or later and you'll end up spending all your gems on junk while you're asleep
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>>500876541
you need to make it more complex than simple macro if you want to do it safely without too big of a ban risk. At least for now. We dont know how the devs feel about those but expectations is ban as often is
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Is there enough luc lamps to unlock all mists or can i brick myself?
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>>500876781
Actually this is the best time to macro. Devs are too busy to even care about macros rn
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>>500876947
I think they'd definitely put you in their book of grudges, even if they're too busy right now
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>>500859745
you can gauge the interest in the game via twitter or 2ch: the game is being loved non-stop; they are constantly asking for a new banner to pull
>>500860295
>>500860786
dev already talked about there being new content to release to last a long time (including localizers) they are just fumbled by the bugs; they had to hire more people to deal with it since the game got way too big for their expectations
among the content they have confirmed outside characters and maps:
* more new classes and races
* more bond/friendship interactions and events

what you all are measuring is this game in the eyes of a western player. Japanese are loyal, specially to ultra-niche games like this one. I can see it lasting a decade; these salary men literally live for grinding of this scale.
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Honestly, this event roll rewards isn't that bad.
>2 rolls from the missions pass (free)
>3 rolls from the shop (not that hard to farm)
> 1 rolls + tips from logic supply
> 2 rolls from uh maintenance.
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>>500877186
standard banner rolls doesn't count
maintenance gems doesn't count
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>>500875969
They’re just beta testing widescreen for steam.
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>>500877147
>Japanese are loyal, specially to ultra-niche games like this one
There's tons of memes in the gacha communities about the random cashgrab jap gacha that releases and eos in less than a year. Japan is littered with dead niche gacha that die after a couple months.
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I'm scared next banner will be male
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Anyone with lvl50 char? What are your base stat values like speed IQ piety?
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>>500877362
you are confusing every-single-one of them to Wizardry. This game has nips showing off their hand drawn maps and strategy guides to most of their official posts in twitter. The amount of support these people give is already plastered in their initial revenue.
this is pretty much a new "wow, this small rpg called dragon quest surely is big in japan" for this new decade
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Pulgritte's Sweet Walnuts...
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>>500877536
evil ass bitch
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>>500877536
The last new banner was already male. If they release another one in a row it will be joever and it will be all the devs fault.

Here, devs. Let me make it easy for you to get money.
1. Release cute girl
2. Release new event where she shows up and acts cute
3. Collect money
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What the fuck
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>>500858142
new comic!
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>>500867430
spam wind dmg
I did something like
>thief delay strike(lvl3) then blind
>mage mental buff
>yeka aoe then mental buff
>priest eva buff then def buff (lvl 2)
>MC armor break
>knight cover debra (fr thief)
and then proceeded to nuke with the hardest hitters being sword of the breeze debra
asha with lvl 2 feru and then yeka with base feru
yeka killed all the adds at the start and then the boss died pretty quickly after I think she only had 3-5 turns and missed hitting debra in the front row and landed I think 1-2 hits between MC/lana
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>>500878221
nips are insane
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>>500878221
butt why
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Welcome back Alice!
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>>500878221
Damn I shouldn't have inherited both my dupe Alices
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>>500878221
I guess Yekat's is extra damage against undead?
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>you have a chance to do less damage at negative surety
I just wanted to have Lana with 1h mace + shield as my stunbot.
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>Connecting...
>Connecting...
>...Connect-AMBUSH!
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
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>>500878221
can anyone explain how to do this
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Are you meant to be able to get multiples of the Sword of Breeze through the Cursed Wheel.
Or would that be considered bug exploitation?

I am kind of super loving the game. But it's kind of unsettling how unclear some of the boundaries are when the bugs aren't clear cut.
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>>500878221
QRD? what's this mean
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>>500878431
That's just maces in general, "glancing blow" is a feature.
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>>500878424
nope. it's +1 to I.Q. human-pri is +1 to piety. and lana is +1 to vit.
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>>500878358
From the skill name looks like it just stat bonus
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>>500878221
The bonds are
IQ, VIT
PIE
dunno the order though
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>>500878221
Is it safe to assume that bondmates are how you get their primary unique skills? Such as Adam's MP reduction.
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>>500878461
Dismiss at full bond supposedly.

Don't do it unless you're an insane jap and/or whale.
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>>500878461
*SUPPOSEDLY*
Max affection with a character then Dismiss them
*SUPPOSEDLY*
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>>500878695
>>500878701
That's fucking horrible
Not even whales would consider doing that then
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>>500867078
>>500873739
anons, run DOSBOX via Retroarch, that way you'll be able to use CRT filters of ultra high quality. The MEGABEZEL ones are a great place to start:
https://www.libretro.com/index.php/retroarch-introducing-the-mega-bezel/
from there you can explore all sorts of community shaders like the cyberlab ones:
https://forums.libretro.com/t/cyberlab-death-to-pixels-shader-preset-packs/35606

they'll change the way you play retrogames forever. Their quality blow the fuck out of anything in the Misters. You'll see the games in the way the developers intended.
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>>500878859
I suspect it also happens if they permadie, in which case it's a consolation prize.
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>>500878221
>your wife haunting you forever
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>>500878859
They will eventually. Remember our roster limit is 50, we WILL have to let some SRs go at the bare minimum.
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>>500878974
>Get impatient and try to revive a character at low fortitude
>Permadeath
>You'll always get a reminder of what happened everytime you open bond menu
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>>500878221
>wanderer lana
Would you get bonds from both versions if you dismiss a merged one?
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1 copy base character
15 copies for discipline
13? copies for skill
5 copies for bond
Potentially 34 copies of 1 legendary to max them out
Then another 18 copies of every other legendary if you were to inherit their skills and use their bonds
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>>500878930
not that anon but holy shit thank you for posting this. i had no idea retro shaders had come so far. this is a game changer. i stopped emulating retro games long ago because they always looked so bad. time to dive back in
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I haven't even gotten a single max bond yet
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O spirit who defies death
Choose one
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>Try mausoleum
>Ah tutorial part doesn't seem bad
>Enter thief area for a chance at another Amelia
>5 fort just to enter
Time to take a break until it recovers
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When can I increase my level cap? I just started NG+ and my niggas are close to capping out their EXP
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>>500879798
45* fort just to enter
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>I'm called Chloe a beast girl from the continent
Wait a sec... Where are we?
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>>500879916
As soon as you hit 20 you can take the grade up exam
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I'm starting to notice that many of the elves we've encountered so far have different type of ears
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My first party will always be the canon party.
Shan't roll unless it's the SSR version of my wife Flut
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>>500879798
This is why you keep a dedicated bone farming party and keep them capped at Lv20 so it's not so expensive to raise them.
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>step on the exit teleporter in earth den
>notice 2 treasure chests on the map right as I do it
Those were purple soil weapons, I just know it
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>>500880203
I think they actually will eventually release SSR versions of SR characters. That's probably what Merge is REALLY intended for.

Another Eden did it, after all.
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>>500879798
anon, savor the risk
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>>500879548
Some of them look astonishingly beautiful. Their full quality also cannot be captured by a screenshot as well. They look even better in person.
It takes a little while to get the hang of them though, as you need to modify several settings to have it all running, and you also gotta learn Retroarch, but it's all worth it. The guides linked have it all easily explained.
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>>500879798
You just go nuts before you go to sleep and freeball with 0 fort, I grab 1-2 bones every day doing this.
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>>500879976
>Beast girls so sexy they're the most wanted by slavers
Debra was even born on an island taken over and used as a breeding farm for beastfolk slaves
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>>500870483
I had little trouble with him. You brought the pickaxe to break the rocks when he drops them, right? If you raise them after breaking them while he stands on them it deals damage and staggers him.
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>>500877186
The rewards suck ass, admit it
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>>500870483
Why are you so low level compared to your team?
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>>500880954
Class change more likely
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>>500880954
But he's the level 20 guy on the top left.
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>500 gems from guild points is per month, not per two weeks
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>>500878807
impressive i must say
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>>500881187
Class change doesn't unlock until after the first lap. Alex is an NPC knight.
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>>500875108
Asha's class change item is in the shop now and the selection resets tomorrow, you should buy it if you plan on using her
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Finally the final Thief Bone for my collection
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>>500880197
Technically Elda's only 3/4 elf
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>>500881252
>Not putting MC at the center of the party
Immersion ruined
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>>500881478
Class change items are random and tied to the player.
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I just got a random quest where I accompanied Pulgritte to some random lord's castle, paid a 3000 gold toll, beat up some guards, then came back and she rewarded me 1000 gold.

What the fuck is this bitch's problem? No wonder no one likes her.
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>>500881652
>paid a 3000 gold toll
haha oh no no no no no look at this guy he actually paid it
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>>500881652
I blame Elmond the Jobber for spoiling her
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>>500881652
>he paid the toll
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How easy do you think it would be to trick the princess into the goblin cave?
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>>500881652
Get used to it popping up every time you use the wheel as well.
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>>500881652
>paid the toll
remember that's the same amount of gold you get for saving the king
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>>500880197
I'm starting to notice that many of the elves I have met are just fucking evil. Must be because of purely socio-economic factor.
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>>500881587
I didn't know that,
how random is it? is it based on characters we have registered atleast?
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>>500881945
absolutely a coincidence
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>English Pulgritte's voice is exactly the same as Yekaterina's
>Pulgritte is Yekaterina's descendant
K I N O
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>>500882030
I'm not sure, all I know is right now Elise(fighter) is the one in my shop right now. Yes, if you use a class change you need another to class change back to the original class.
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>>500881945
Alice did nothing wrong. Need more money for Agora.
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>>500882185
Humongous if true
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So why exactly do these legendary figures that you revive just go with you and do whatever you want all the time?

Shouldn't Alice have a cult to fuck off to? Or Lana with her kingdom?
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>>500882453
Because they're broke and have nowhere else to go, what with being dead and forgotten for x hundred years.
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Well fuck I had to restart because the game froze and now I'm getting a black screen before getting to the menu
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>>500882453
I sort of figured they were alive long enough ago that noone they know/live is still alive so they don't have anything better to do than to sit on Mr Momento Cor's Wild Ride to the end.
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>>500882569
i mean u beat the game anon just move on
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>>500882453
Presumably reviving them has some sort of binding fuckery involved that prevents them from wandering off. Also god only knows how long ago they all lived, like Yeka apparently invented sealing the abyss in the first place? Anyone most of these characters knew is probably long dead.
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>>500878221
If permadeath and dismissals can give you the bondmates. Any chance of skill inheritance also being able to do it?
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>>500878252
Cute ~
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>>500882979
Probably not. Permadeath is mechanically the same as dismissal, you get guild tags from both.
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>>500882741
He just beat the tutorial.

>>500882569
So you aren't even seeing dungeon crawl through the corridor at the title screen?
Well. Fuck. Did you ever save your ID/Password or link through google play?
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>>500878252
this design is shit
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>>500883259
Nah I was just farming
I restarted 4 times and suddenly it worked
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>>500882453
I suspect it's like FGO where they feel compelled to serve you.
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>>500883421
Servants don't have any sort of compulsion to serve outside of your 3 use command seals(which aren't even a sure thing and have to be actively used). There are multiple examples of them just turning around and murking their summoner, even with the system trying to make sure they are compatible to some extent.
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>>500883421
It should be like pokemon where you have to have a certain badge level or they don't respect you.
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Whoa, I just got a Guiding Light LUK for doing the perfect beastfolk rescue, which is not documented on the Rentry
Weird.
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>>500884220
It is though, it's because you did the other two paths perfect as well.
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>>500884313
Oh, I see it now. My bad.
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If there is any anon collecting the class changes, here is eulalia as fighter
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So are Samurai and Paladins advanced Classes that are better than the more basic ones?
Never played Wizardry before
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>>500884893
Generally, yes.
The way it used to work is that you would get a random roll of stats (fairly like how we get them now). If you rolled good enough stats, or eventually leveled to have high enough stats, you could then change from your class to a 'better' class.
Samurai required, I think, high VIT, INT and STR. They're a very strong fighter/mage hybrid. Ninja were very high AGI, INT, with some LUK? I'm going off memory, but they were very dodgy instant-kill rogues. Other wizardries expanded on this concept, but largely there were 'basic' classes and then 'advanced' classes that were hard to qualify for but very good.
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>>500884712
>>500884893

AWWOOOOOGA THIGHS AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA LEGGY LEGG MOMMA BLRBRLBRLRBLRBLBLBLBLLBL
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>>500885208
I like this anon, he just says what were all thinking
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>>500885182
I see
I imagine in this we'll need to get both current Classes maxed out before moving on to some advanced one
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>>500884893
these chads got the unga bunga damage
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>>500885415
Naw, more likely it will work exactly like class change already does but only characters who can actually change into them can do it. For example gerald has no class change currently, he will probably change into an unreleased class. Everyone else is fucked though.
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>>500882453
Does anybody even acknowledge your party aside from Lulu? Would be funny if they're your ghost squad
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>>500885415
Probably. There's a lot of weird stuff that they can pull out, class wise. There's Gadgeteer and Bard, both of which are casters that don't use resources (but require you to use their inventory slots to 'slot' in spells, being instruments or gadgets).
There's Psion/Monk, who use a whole new school of magic (Psionics), with the Monk being more 'paladin-like' (Melee w/ some psionics).
Then there's Valkyrie, Lord, Ranger, or (god forbid) we start going into the nitty gritty autism of Bishop.
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>>500885208
killing waifus to look up their skirt
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>>500885649
I want an oppai loli dwarf gadgeteer.
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>>500885845
Asha is used to waking up in strange places
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What characters are good wife and mother material?
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does anyone have pics of mage milana or marianne? or knight debra?
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What characters are good husband and father material?
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>>500886314
Gerard and Daniel
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>>500886193
Alice. She will make sure your daughters are good and proper followers of Agora.
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If I'm still in port town, is there any item tier higher than steel? What about after you finish it?
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>hmm yes there is an enemy right around this corner, I can feel it
>better use the side step feature so I don't get ambushed the moment I turn the corner
>step into the enemy
>ambushed by 6 fairies
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>>500886193
Asha chloe barbara
bonus: bad mothers - chain smoking day drinking debra, evil cult leading alice, thats not my problem Amelia/milana
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>>500886221
bad pics unfortunately
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>>500886684
thx, no longer worried about class changing chloe atleast
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>>500886367
>ywn ride Daniel while he yells OH GOOOOOOOOOD
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>>500886684
Class change lana is CUTE. Definitely gonna change Alice for the hat once she hits 40 too.
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>>500886842
He does look like a screamer
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>>500886684
Didn't someone post Debra too? Red cloak instead of green?
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>>500886684
do we need a dupe for class change
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So far my MC's bondmates are Dog, rabbit, and slime
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>>500858142
gay/queen bwos, do you actually like Daniel? Or is he too blatantly bara for your taste? Though, perhaps that's what you may like about him now that I think about it.
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>>500887252
I'm bisexual, and I don't like Daniel.
Rather, I don't like anyone in Daphne since my taste is effeminate and emasculated men.
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>>500887216
just the scroll from the weekly shop
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>>500886193
Amelia seems like good wife material
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Is this the Dark Souls of gacha?
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>>500887371
And by "I don't like anyone in Daphne", I'm referring to male characters.
There are some female characters I like to the point I'd even allow them to peg me.
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>>500887419
>being a thief with those mountains
hmm...
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>>500887041
Yeah, pretty bad considering she's a legendary
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>>500887216
You need the scroll from the shop(it's random whose is in it and changes). You can't change back without another scroll so make sure you want to do it.
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>>500887571
She also gets armor on her arms! Lame.
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>>500887571
i mean that's clearly a different outfit. It's just that the cloak is the same.
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>>500887571
What’s with this game and masks?
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>all characters with 6-7 Potion of Greater Healing
I'm ready.
>>500887571
I wonder what strategy were the developers thinking by making her class change into Knight. Same with Barbara... why is her class change Thief?
Chloe at least makes sense since she starts as a Fighter, while Amelia is literally perfect in all aspects since her class change is Thief.
So I ask, is Amelia really an outlier for thieves? Both Debra and Barbara would be very nice as Fighters.
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Doctor, what do you think of this?
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If you think about it, these threads are like the tavern while we rest from abyss explorations.
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>>500887962
Self-correction: Amelia's class change is Fighter*
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>>500888096
What is Jesus doing in my medieval fantasy?
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I just want to pull... ahhhhhh!!! I just got 100$ from a commission and I'm willing to give it to you Daphne... I just hope the next character is cute.
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You know even the devs like Amelia when her class change combo is better than the SSR beastkin
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>>500888326
cute
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...does Hiding and Sneak Attack work if you aren't a thief?
Haven't unlocked the DEX Lantern yet so I can't test.
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>>500888585
nope
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>>500888442
Amelia is 100% some devs fetish or made by a female dev.
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>>500888326
>paying that much into a gacha this buggy where the devs are engaged in 'preparation' to seize characters and inherits from bones nearly everyone got from bugs
Maybe keep it in your pants a little longer to see if they go full Taiman
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>>500886647
>running from enemy
>turning manually is too slow and clunky
>sidestep right into another group
Man fuck this game
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>four level 39 corpse crewmen takes nearly all my MP/SP to kill
Jesus christ these things are just hp sponges.
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Story-wise, what reason would these people you raise from the dead have to embark with you BACK into where they died?
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I don't get it. Is Amelia really good or it's just her looks? And if yes, why?
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>>500888780
what else are they going to do?
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>>500888728
god help you if 2 of them scurvy breath the same row
Fortunately you can soft-CC them by doing enough damage that they use cannibalize instead of attacking
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>>500888728
Just OHHHH Earth twice
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>>500887934
It's literally the same outfit just with a different color scheme and arm guards. That's the only difference.
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>>500889069
ok but what about the other 750 hp
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>>500888442
I can believe it from her dialogue
Dialogue is pretty friendly with MC, smiles mischievously when talking to you at you in camp, and asks someone to snuggle up with her because its cold when resting at camp
>>500888449
Her leotard is better
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>>500889124
Just sneak attack twice. Not running double thief double mage? Pffff
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>>500888780
Presumably they came to the abyss for their own reasons and dying wasn't enough of a reason to leave.

>>500888861
Nah, her passive is one of those useless racial defensive ones too. But none of the thieves are that impressive (even Debra) so it's not like that matters.
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I'm this close to just ditching Lanavaille and eating her so I can run two rows of evil/neutral characters instead of running one good for Lana and one evil for Alice
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>>500886314
My handsome husband in jeans
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Who’s the canon love interest
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>>500889610
Bonnie NTR
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>>500889430
Are there even any worthwhile evil frontliners?
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>>500889430
her passive eaten is pretty much meaningless. If you are that butthurt, just bench her for a while for a new team, don't be stupid. Or be and regret it later, it's your game bruv
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>>500889610
Mom of that noble brat you killed.
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>>500889673
gandolfo.
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>>500870507
because she keeps fucking killing herself?
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>>500889787
Why would I run him over Elise? Especially since I can give her a spear, chuck her in the back row behind debra for front line thief action, and not fuck up either of lana or alice's team buffs if I need to swap them back mid dungeon.
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>>500889502
has any anon even get this guy. never interested since i got lana
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>>500890048
Because elise is an elf so she's made of squish.

Of course the ideal column is elise with bow and benjamin out front with a greataxe.
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>>500878252
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Things I want:
>row cleave
>row taunt
>evasion buff that guarantees the user a counter-attack on dodge
>defense buff that makes the user counter-attack enemies when being hit
>buff that guarantees the user a one-time dodge
>skill that forces another ally to cover the user
>buff that increases debuff success rate of an ally
>debuff that reduces debuff resistance of an enemy
>buff that increases debuff resistance of an ally
>buff that increases attack power when HP is bellow a certain percentage
>buff that makes the character survive with 1 HP when receiving damage that would kill them if their HP are above a certain percentage
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>>500890332
Mine only has two less vit than lana. Lower HP due to fighter vs knight but she isn't noticeably squishier than a human is.
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>>500890491
Go back to playing Granblue
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>>500889362
>Amelia precision strikes enemy for 300dmg
nothing personnel
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>game crashes after this scene in B1F of NG+
>reload, cant progress the quest further

I suppose this is where the Cursed Wheel comes in handy. When can I start moving around freely?
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>>500890406
Stop posting this trash
making MC look like fucking Snivy from Pokemon is retarded
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>>500888638
i'll do with my money whatever the fuck i want schizo
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>>500889610
Ira, the barefoot loli
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>>500890406
translation anon is back! Thanks for these, they are fun!
Could you perhaps do this one?
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Aside from the barn having a chance to have your money stolen, what's the difference between the rooms at the in?
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>>500889610
You know who
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>>500891003
Nigga all he is doing is tossing it into google. You can do it yourself. It takes like a second. There is no actual translation being done. OCR does all the work for you(poorly).
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>>500891003
not that anon, I'm doing it with google translate, it has a function to translate images and it's decent enough, you kinda have to use your imagination to make out what it actually means but here you go
It's also a good option if you want to play the game with nip voices, screenshot the screen and paste it there
>https://translate.google.com/?sl=ja&tl=en&op=images
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>>500890332
It's better to use a spear for backline fighters so you still get a chance at counterattack procs.
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There are more elven adventuers (15) than beastkin (5) and dwarves (6) combined.
Humans are said to be the most populous race (16) yet for some reason the difference between their numbers and elves are very different.
Let that sink in.
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>>500891314
that anon is using his own software; talked about it before, and the translation is from what I see much better than google's one
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>>500891350
I'm relatively sure you can counterattack with a bow, I had my Benjamin do it.
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>>500891387
Despite being 12% of the population, beastkin make up 50% of the thieves.
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>>500891448
It says in the description mid range and close range weapons only. Bow is long range(hence the penalty if it's on the front row). Follow up is the one that works with bows.
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>>500891473
Ther are only 3 beastkin that are thieves though (Amelia, Debra, Beast-Thi). 4 if you count Barbara.
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>ran out of flames
Guess I'll try killing these Ent niggers tomorrow...
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>>500889502
Cool devaintart oc
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>>500888861
he boob jiggles at the end of combat and her outfit is sex
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>>500888861
I just have her open chests. Also I make chest puns behind her while she does it.
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How long did it take (You) to finish the tutorial?
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So, when are they taking the thief bones back?
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>>500893032
When they figure out how to delevel everyone and remove characters on everyone's accounts without being sued, considering they've now widened the threat to the respawning bone chests that anyone would naturally run into on their 100% run through beginner abyss
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>>500893263
>without being sued
even american courts would laugh at you
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>>500893263
>sued
tos needs to be nerfed, can't sue mcdonalds if you've installed the app when it causes your kidney to explode
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>>500893695
>>500894013
you can't sue because you didn't lose anything you spent money on.
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I like to keep my self clean yknow. I like to wipe myself down.
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>>500894013
Ask yidsney how that worked out for them. ToS aren't legally binding documents.
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>>500894290
Which Wizardry theme park did you just die in bro
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>>500894376
The abyss. Damn double ent fight.
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aaaaiieeeeeeeee server taking a shit for anyone else/
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>>500894465
Nope
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>finished my second run of NG+ (redoing because I 'saved' all the knights but didn't get Albano's good end + LUC lantern)
>watching the post-Helmut cinematics
>realize I picked up Ira floors ago and never delivered her to the temple
Oh man I sure hope she dodged all those AoE attacks
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>>500894854
You just reminded me I have to donate to her one last time.
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>>500894854
>realize I picked up Ira floors ago and never delivered her to the goblins
ftfy
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>>500889610
Flut
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Did they stealth changed drop rates?
Was going to farm a little before going to sleep, 4 trade waterway chests, all of them only had shell coins.
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>>500894143
>you can't sue because you didn't lose anything you spent money on
How are they going to handle getting a 10-roll character from a chest bone they're revoking and putting paid-for Disciplines and Inherits into it, for example? Not to mention melting them into tags for paid characters
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>>500895471
Yeah they must've improved them
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>>500893263
For thief bones at least, they can just see how many extras of each thief someone had and lower inheritance skill and discipline exp accordingly. After running out of those simple sources, start removing loose tags, unregistered thieves that match and finally lower character grades and set their level to the max for that grade while keeping exp.
MCs grade gets to stay the same to try and avoid something like being no grade capped at 20 with iron exam available at the guild. If they still need to remove things might as well ban the account at that point.

The other bones are a problem since they don't have a specific result you can easily track. Probably just take away loose bones and if you don't have enough, they'll pretend you bought them with gems and put you in debt.
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>gem debt
Remember that Taimanin game? Literally
SPEEDRUN TO END OF SERVICE tier.
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>>500895560
All of that is retarded and they should just eat shit for releasing such a buggy game.
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>>500893263
nobody is getting sued retard; from what fucking hole did you spawned from?
>b-but it happened in X!
it's time to go back
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>>500895471
They altered the dens to drop more upgrade mats and less elemental gear, otherwise no.
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what is everyone aiming for in the event? unsure how much is 25 exp in a skill to level it up and helm seems decent
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>>500895479
That's probably what they'er trying to figure out.

Regardless, you can't sue because you didn't spend money. Can't sue a video game because you wasted your life playing it.
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>>500895471
No
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>>500895036
I'd end up donating everybody else to the goblins too if sleep didn't hit
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>>500895935
Works on my machine >>500895534
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>>500895953
100 exp is a dupe for an inheritable skill
or priceless for skills that aren't inheritable
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>>500895953
I'm going to try to get everything because i hate myself. But i'm only going to unify 3 of the helms, so i can have a full front line protected from instant death.
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>>500896096
*chance to protect
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>>500895953
instant death irl while I farm for skill exp books
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i'm going to laugh my ass off from seeing all the gem debt from all the mausoleum and "daily chest" exploiters. Have fun farming for 5 years in order to get out of the idiot prison.
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>>500896091
No it has a price, check the jeweler.
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>>500896221
I would correct myself but I can't edit here.
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>>500896218
with how competent the devs are I bet everyone will go into gem debt and game goes EOS
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>>500896061
RNG is RNG. It's pretty well documented on the JP side though. Lots of japs are bitching about it.
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>>500896218
>surely the devs will implement the most complex revoke imaginable perfectly bugfree in spite of everything else!
More like we're going to be laughing at the legit people wondering where their characters went
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>>500896459
They absolutely stealth buffed the rates in one update, because RNG doesn't let you spend 8 hours one day getting 2 junk and getting a full set in 4 hours the next day.
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I haven't exploited anything regarding Mausoleum.
But if I end up in debt because daily respawning chests without using the cursed wheel were a exploit I will drop the game.
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>>500896571
Yes that's exactly what RNG does.
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>>500896571
gamers complaining about droprates, you don't say
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>doomposters at it again
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>niggas in debt for a video game
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>>500896485
>i-it will happen to you! you'll see! i'm not owned, you are owned!!11

pathetic behavior, just quit the game already, your account is done. all that farming? Meaningless. It's time go back to your shitty gacha of the month. Go ahead, open gachagaming and register to your slob, hurry hurry! Rerolling is fun, right? go go!
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what was the deal with this warped one? the one slightly different from the others, is it supposed to be a transformed character?
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>>500896218
Gem debt from mausoleum doesn't make sense and I doubt any debt from daily bones would be high because those bones were much slower to get. Probably just a few months to recover.
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>>500896885
it was a transformed elf which is why it was significantly weaker than the others
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>>500896885
probably a knight
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>>500896885
i thought it was a recently turned person
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>>500897032
We see a named NPC transform and it isn't white like that
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>>500896951
it makes sense if they can't find a quick solution to deleting everything manually from their logs; and yeah, "daily" bones will count. The nips do not play around with their exploiters.
just count one bone to their equivalent in the shop; what a bad deal considering they weren't even for limited characters
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>doing the event dungeon
>shit sucks
>playing regular dungeon without undead
>max comfy
I hate skeletons so fucking much.
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>The nips do not play around with their exploiters
>2 WEEKS and people still have their thief bones
lol
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>>500896656
>this dude doesn't know how large nubmers works
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>>500897380
your alice?
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>>500897380
Surely they'll add higher tier undead bane in the future lol)
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>>500897129
>The nips do not play around with their exploiters
>chinks get an unbeneficial bugfix affecting a paid character removed the same day with an apology and a free 10-pull to the entire playerbase, using a mere picture of a single lawsuit in the works and the unspoken threat of another assassination attempt on their CEO
>japs nitpick and beancount their playerbase to death and they defend they cultcha and ask for more
Which are the samurai and which are the bugmen here
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>>500897472
>one day's experience from one person
>large numbers
Never do anything involving statistics.
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Imma hold onto this for a bit and see if new stuff get added to it
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>>500898782
wait, people have been using their bones? i've been hoarding all of mine
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>>500898517
several hundred chests is indeed large numbers.
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>>500898092
yeah, this why this game suckkks alright? now quit because it isn't like ebin chink gachas with glorious x99 rolls in the mail because they missed a comma in your congratulatory mail for playing their game. it'll never be like this, so it's time to quit. go ahead and uninstall right now
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>>500898901
I savor the dopamine.
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Oh man, Alice has been missing LABADIOS frequently now
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I've been extracting equipment since 01:38.
It's already 02:09 and I haven't finished yet.
They really need to implement mass extraction or just remove the fucking "animation" of the equipment turning into either dust or stone.
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>ent and scorpion
i'll save this for last
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damn, den of earth is on fire tonight
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>farm 6 malice helmets to help get the rest of the mausoleum bones
>iron grade mausoleum packs are so weak I can kill all the instakill threats before they act
well, that was a waste
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do i herb or healing pot max?
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All my characters are stuck at level 30. This is the worst form of time gating.
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>>500900564
You are not alone.
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Elise getting art.
https://x.com/kemonono3/status/1852892379189330250?t=4GT_LrEK7g3_w8yebJeLeA&s=19
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>>500900564
Get your mausoleum bones and dismiss the shitters you don't like / will never use
You really only need a roster of 17 (5 main party, 12 dispatch)
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Things I NEED:
>proper storage and inventory sorting because imagine items not being grouped by name in 2024
>option to select and perform mass operations with multiple items, e.g. extract multiple items at once
>option to sort items on shop's sell screen
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>>500900752
And human pri-chan
https://x.com/kemonono3/status/1852619244099543253?t=TxMvbQ6lLUnnYxJICpa9tg&s=19
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>>500900564
huh smug stelle anon is here
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>>500900891
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Can anyone explain what the "Restore Causality" button does?
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>>500900891
>hmmm this page doesn't exist
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>>500900564
Silly anon keeping yourself at level 30 is actually the more efficient way of farming exp.
You run through bf 1 - 5 each mom is dying in a few auto attacks while dishing out between 1k to 4k exp.
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>>500901169
elon made it so you need an acct allegedly
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Alright fellas I only need 3 chicken wings to unlock the door. Is it on B3 or B2?
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>>500901169
>>500901298
and elise
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https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1269042802.htm
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>I met a great guy in the capital
>I was ready to take him back home
just pulled this turbo slut...
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im bricked
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>>500902234
trying to take a few pages from your ghost wife (it didn't work)
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>>500901095
If you view branching points and select a different outcome, you can then tap Restore Causality to confirm the new sequence of changed flags.
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>Adam with 5 bonus points
Is it bricked?
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>>500901487
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>>500902571
https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/880077
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>>500902495
reroll
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>>500902746
Ty
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It doesn't matter
I have an Adam with 8-9 points and he got 2 levels of 1 point in vit and dex respectively.
as in, 2 levels 1 point each.
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One milk please. And for the lady, a milk.
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>>500902234
you will drink their innards
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What's the name of the equipment tier I should be farming on port town for wizards? Don't know what staff, boots etc I should be looking for.
Also, one handed staff with a light shield or a teo handed staff?
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the waterway dungeon was great at the start, became kind of a slog to go through until you get to arena, then its great when you start looping again
just killed melgina so I'm gonna go for true end
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>>500901298
>>500901525
>Tavern I"LL HAVE THE MILK
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>>500903614
Mage's Hood, Mage's Robe, Spiritual Staff (2H)
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>>500903815
Thanks
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>>500901169
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/450008-twitter-to-nitter-redirector
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>>500903970
Nitter doesn't work anymore.
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>>500903989
lmao retard
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>>500900820
Yes, I love wizardry and all but I didn't need my sorting options to also come straight out of the 80's as well jesus fucking christ
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>>500901959
Bruh what they even saying no cap
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>>500904758
Lmao gitgud
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>>500900820
Option to LOCK items on the sell screen too.
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>>500905215
Option to LOCK items on the junk result screen.
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>>500904835
Deadass some skibidi ohio shit frfr
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When's the last time any of you got a bone from the bone picker? Does the guy only sell like 7 and then stop forever or something?
Considering the amount of tags you need to use I expected more bones to come
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>>500905215
>>500905342
FIX THE LOCK BUG FIRST
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I have a question for spenders
it says that you can get the character's weapon with purple bones does that mean the character can come pre-equipped with said gear?
I've noticed that thunderjeans has a sword, glove, and spear in his shop can you get those by rolling instead of exchanging?
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>>500905435
Apparently RNG? That's what it feels like anyway.
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>>500905597
Guess I've failed the RNG roll constantly because I haven't gotten a damn thing from the guy in more than a week.
So people here have been getting bones?
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>>500900820
Sorting adventurers
Yeah, I would like not to scroll >100 niggers back and forth looking for the ones I want with biggest bonus.
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>>500905767
Filter by class and element, good way to narrow it down to the specific character you're looking for
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>>500905579
Whenever you get the featured SSR with purple bones they roll an additional item (the bonus)
with thunderjeans you'd randomly get one of those pieces of gear if you pulled him with purple.
The gear is rng too, it can be a 1* white or a 5* red, only consistent thing is there unified once so they can go up to +10 before you need dupes
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I’m spending in this game because the devs deserve it. I hope in 3 years we’re playing a PS5 Wizardry game.
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>>500900820
Things I NEED:
>Harem party with:
>Lanavaille
>Flut
>Chloe
>Debra
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>>500905435
i had exactly 7 as well so i'm guessing it's a set number
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>>500905435
I got a bone from him yesterday but I can't remember the time he sold me one before that. I think it might've been a whole week.
It might also be in combination with a timer that you have to go back in time to 'reset' him and he'll actually show the bones then.
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>>500905949
I didn't actually count, 7 just seemed like a good estimate to how many I got
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>>500901959
>futaba doesn't have backlinks and posters have to just quote the entire post they're replying to
and tourists think 4chan's ui is hard to navigate
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It feels so good to play without having to worry about having my account wiped clean or in debt bwos.
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>>500906068
artist? or sloppa'd, and yeah was rerolling waiting for all the perma bricks to be fixed
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>>500905903
I bought the 5$ pass but that's all they're getting out of me. They are not being serious with the prices they are charging, at least in the american store. I love dungeon crawlers, and I had a lot of fun with this game but you are not being realistic with that pricing strategy. Give me a full game with no gachashit for that price, what the fuck.
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>>500906218
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/123942989
pixiv filename
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Honestly at this point I'm kind of wondering how many of my pulls were bugged without me knowing
Next patch notes are gonna be like "Um ackshually the bone picker was only supposed to sell you one bone"
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>>500906279
And you are not being realistic about the DRPG genre or anything at all. You are not getting anything remotely of this game's caliber for the price of a single game because there is no market to support it. DRPGs are niche, which is the reason why almost all of the DRPGs we got before this one were zero budget animu DRPGs with low res JPG sprites

The only reason the devs were able to get the type of funding needed to make a game with this level of graphics/animation/content/mechanics is because investors know gachas have potential to make a lot of money. orders of magnitude more than they would with a typical boxed DRPG game
>>
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>>500906595
Seems it didn't work out because this is literally the only place I see the game talked about. At least gachas can be kept on maintainance for years for almost no cost.
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>>500906595
Instead we get to Savor The Risk of this game potentially EoSing after 6 months, joy.
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>bawwwwww why do i get to play a game for a temporary time instead of never play it at all bawwwwww
bizarre mindset
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>>500906729
>>500906761
Man do you retards ever get tired of saying the same old shit.
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>>500906415
the only solution is to never pull
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>>500906761
We got the best DRPG in literally decades, a fantastic story with great mechanics and awesome graphics. Even if it doesn't last the devs made an amazing game and I'm glad it happened.

You're just a low IQ mouth breather who doesn't understand the Wizardry, DRPGs or the video market at all.
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>>500906729
Discord server has 1500 people.
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>>500906963
Damn if this is the best DRPG in decades I'd hate to see any of the others.
The game's okay and all but shit dude.
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>>500907101
>he hasn't seen the others
Yeah we get it you're new
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>here have this neat weapon for achieving a difficult task
>by the way it's useless because we gave it to you as a 1 star white
I hate it
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>>500907229
do item stars even mean anything? stats rook same
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>>500907101
You definitely should. You'll immediately see the gulf in difference between this game and all the other DRPGs from recent times
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>>500907229
On a semi-related note, can you farm Isabella's Warhammer? Or is it just a one time thing too
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>>500907320
stars determine the range of substats you can roll
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>>500906595
If the survival of the DRPG genre depends on me buying into a predatory gacha monetization model then it was already dead for all intents and purposes. I will continue to enjoy older games in the genre, and lament people's shit taste. I agree thought that this game was great, and will even praise it if indeed the devs got the funding to make this through so called promised gacha profits, but I will not participate in it. Good things die all the time, I'm old enough to realize that and mourn my losses peacefully. Hey, if the gacha causes it to live then I'm all there for it. I'll be paying my 5$ a month for it. (Given it's still worth it)
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>>500907229
The only items I've seen the game give to you that are actually good are the sandals and the helm of malice
sandals give your mage a crazy amount of AS and when you're fighting instakill stats take a back seat
huntsman bow and sword of breeze are ok for that in between clearing beginner abyss and farming port town
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>>500907550
Just play the fucking game or don't.
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>>500907375
I don't think stars on a white weapon really matter, a white 4* isn't gonna roll all that high in the first place, and that's assuming you didn't waste gold upgrading it for a substat you don't want
You're just gonna alter/refine the stat you want, but in that case white weapons are fucked in general since you can only alter one slot
Still, the sentiment is the same, quest rewards and other one-time gears like that are garbage
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Anyone know what time daily reset is, I've completely lost track of it and I'm not sure if the in game timer is accurate
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>>500863327
only crucible resets
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Isabella has really nice tits for a ghost...
>>500907367
Not that anon, but I think while this game is fantastic, depends on your definition something like Darkest Dungeon is a better DRPG than this
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>>500907632
15:00 UTC+0/GMT
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>>500907602
I will, thank you.
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>>500907550
Honestly even paying 5 bucks a month for a barely functioning game like this is a bit much for me but you do you. Never played such a buggy gacha before. Hope they get their shit together soon.
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>Fire is a gift from God! It calms me.

Are you...you ok there Daniel?
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>>500907763
>Honestly even paying 5 bucks a month for a barely functioning game like this is a bit much for me but you do you.
No that's completely understandable. I guess my acceptable price for wanting to keep DRPG's alive is about 5 bucks a month, give or take.
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>>500907608
They do matter. Granted you can still roll low but you have a chance to come out with possibly a cracked piece of gear that could last you beyond the next tier. +5 is pretty cheap and finding the perfect 4-star or even 3-star gear seems to be the current endgame
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Does changing class clear your inventory? Just now noticed that my MC's inventory was thrown in storage at some point. Including the hook of harken that I would have been very pissed to have needed if I got locked by some stupid bug again.
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I am so fucked. Didn't bring any harken btw.
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>>500908441
Bro, your inventory full of potions of greater healing and nourishing draughts?
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Christ port town b6f is stupid. I'm going to need to buy an entire stock of extra healing potions, huh.
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>>500907560
The undead resistance ring is pretty nice too.
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>>500908538
B6F was pretty miserable even with the fountain. Just try to run from fights and sneak past if you can and never fight in the water
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>>500908441
You posted this yesterday bro....
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>>500908735
That was me

>>500908441
Hope you have some potions at least.
Just gotta 1 tap those revives.
Don't prioritize the archers, let your backrow get him by them to split the damage.
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>>500908441
Why's everyone but Lana in moonrunes
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>>500908735
So it seems that I am not the only one who got fucked by thinking"Well we will just take a quick look, see the next floor and then go home."
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>>500908913
You're forced to go to 5F. I was undecided for a bit then decided to turn back but fucking lulu stopped me and made me go down.
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>>500907646
>depending on your definition
oh yeah, in this same comparison we could also say that dark souls is the best drpg of all time (it has dark dungeons) or you know what? Diablo is the best drpg of all time (cuz dark dungeons) oh no wait, the binding of isaac is acktually the best drpg of all time (it totally counts cuz there are dungeons that are like dark)

where did we get all these clowns from? holy shit
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>>500909104
>"If I get any stronger, you will have to marry me"
Literally what does Aisha mean by this???
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so how did you guys get the tags? you need thousands of them
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>there is a line where everyone wakes up covered in bugs if you sleep in the barn enough
I'm going to make elise sleep in the barn forever!
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>>500909443
You barely need any, just dismiss a few units you don't use or go get some trash from mausoleum
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>>500909443
>you need thousands of them
Explain to me why you need orihalcum grade tags right now in the third week of the game
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>>500909443
How? I've dismissed 4/6 people max and I have a full team of lvl 40s
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Anyone else think the event is pretty boring? When are we getting a good event?
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>>500909778
Never, probably
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>>500909778
Not at the moment, they're still fixing bugs.
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>>500909886
The first event in any gacha game is obviously already done by the time the game is released, this has nothing to do with them scrambling to fix bugs. It's just a dud. A dud that is also filled with bugs.
Could result in future stuff being slower though, depending on how much they've already gotten done after this one
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Is there any reason to ever buy more than the economy room at the inn?
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>>500910480
some anons were saying that if you buy the roal suite your friendship goes up or something
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>>500910480
I heard there's a chance of getting mana potions from the expensive one. Possibly makes your affinity go up more too, but the value of that is pretty nonexistent.
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>>500910480
I got a few freebies potionsfrom the innkeeper for staying in the 1000G room
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The greater daemon pushed my shit in. Back into the Sahaugin water rape rooms I guess.
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So how does the Mausoleum work? I can visit each floor once per day and try to grab a bone or is it only once at a time?
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>>500911943
Once ever, except for crucible which resets each week, unless it's not supposed to then we're all getting banned because these fucking devs just can't stop dropping infintie bone exploits.
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>>500911943
i mean, you can visit each floor as many times as you want, but you only get one of each bone ever.
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>finally get to the event
>the dialog with the soldier at the start of the dungeon crashes
>stuck there
AAAAAAA
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>>500911943
>go in
>grab single chest, has bone or junk in it
>leave
>repeat until you've collected one of each bone available
No time gating involved, keep going in and out until your done. Also don't be a pussy about your fortitude, it's not a big deal.
Honestly it's insane that they have things like the guide and the altar there to drain your gems, really gives you the impression that the mausoleum is a bigger deal than it is
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>>500913139
Forgot to mention that the chests dropped from enemies don't count. Seems like a safe assumption but should clarify.
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Is weekly reset in 6h or tomorrow?
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>>500913380
Tomorrow. It's always tuesdays in live service games.
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>>500913501
Hmm
When does the weekly tag goes from 3 to 4? Only at the end of the second dungeon?
I haven't done my weekly yet because I thought I would get to 4 before the week was over.
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>>500913574
WTF is this shit about a weekly with tags//?/

i sure as fuck dont have that. what do i need to do to unlock it
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>>500912252
Crucible resets each week? Feel like I would have seen it mentioned before now in that case, game's been out for a while. Plus I'm sure this is the first time it's reset since I started playing on day one, I remember seeing the same group with Barbara in it every time before this when I checked
A reset each month seems more likely to me

Something I'm curious about is whether or not this is even a "true" reset rather than just a rotating set of bones you can still only get once. Like since I got Barbara from the last set, if she ever comes back will I be able to get her again? With this fucking game I wouldn't be shocked if the answer is no
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>>500913637
maybe its' each month or something. i don't know. someone said it reset on the discord. nobody fucking knows how this retarded shit is supposed to work.
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>>500913614
Probably shows up once your MC gets to 20 is my guess
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>>500913614
You've probably done it already, it's a mission in the guild. I don't think you need to get very far to access it

>>500913663
Yeah it's definitely reset for me and I cleared it again already. You guys should too before it resets and you lose out (though who knows which bones are bug or not these days honestly)

>>500913678
I'm 90% sure I got it before that, I didn't even know what use the tags had when I first got them from the quest
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>>500913783
i'm DAMN sure the mausoleum enemies scale with your level though. Because the goblins are no longer dying in one hit.
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>>500913819
Yeah the skellies are tougher for me to take out now, usually Yekat's line AoE was enough to kill or almost kill them in one hit but now they're much tankier. If I get a big group I need to use the big AoE. Enemies don't seem much more dangerous though, the gobbos were only hitting me for like 10 and the centaur asshole didn't seem to be doing any more damage.
You still have to be concerned with the skeleton instakills though so nuke them asap
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>>500858142
Just got this. I had no idea there were this kind of special weapons. What new kind have you gotten? This one is making me think of retooling my thief...
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Remember to send in feedback calling the event a grindy piece of shit
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>>500914005
Don't necessarily need to retool them, you can just keep it in their back pocket to switch to even in the back line. I haven't actually tried that dagger though so I'm not sure what the odds of its proc are.
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Toshiaki Sakoda here.
Do you guys enjoy the game?
What features will make you buy a pass every month?
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>>500913574
Anyone?
If I need to beat the second dungeon, I will just get my tags now
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Is "Pearl of the Sea God" is what those japanese balls supposed to be? Why is one translated and the other one still in japanese?
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I've yet to see a screenshot of anyone with all 6 party members having unique names.
Soulless.
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>>500915667
give us more fucking bones
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>>500916309
Renaming characters that already have a name is fucking cringe.
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>Just barely beat the scorpion lady on BF5
>"Well I repaired the Harken on this floor, might as well see what's in the little bit left unexplored on this floor before going down"
>Double Ent guarding a chest
Man they really love throwing two Ents at you every now and then in the first dungeon. First Abyssal Steel and now this. Thankfully you can flee.
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Any point in MC staying as a fighter instead of a knight? Just got knight to my level cap as well.
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>>500917584
lower VIT - lower HP cost for hand revivals - easier to top him off after
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>>500885550
They're definitely not ghosts. When some shmuck starts bullying you when you get to the guild for the "first" time and your dudes call out to you, he notices them and fucks off.
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Did we have an announcement/patch today? Devs are already slacking with bugfixes...
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>enemy drop chests can be mimics
FUCK
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Don't touch it
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>>500918905
oh. someone finally able to do pickerel's soup quest.
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>>500916309
It's neat that they let you rename even the non-generic characters but to me personally that's kinda silly to do. These are existing characters with their own backstory and everything.

>>500915820
I have heard that you have to beat the second dungeon but can't confirm.
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I've seen Lana's Fighter look, but does her alt form also change appearance when she class changes to Fighter? Haven't seen it.
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is it a brick to greatsword lana
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>>500919245
The one question no one ever answers...
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is eva worth building into for ophelia or only thieves can
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>>500919007
Gale break!
> Everyone gets hit with delay
Gale break!
< Everyone dies

It sure wasn't easy, had to wait for openings and pray
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>>500889610
Daphne.
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Warning:
The crucible doesn't reset every month. It is a bug.
Don't farm it or you will get a ban
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What are the tips for the bronze exam
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>>500890491
>>buff that increases attack power when HP is bellow a certain percentage
There is one character with this as passive and it can be inherited
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>>500919535
oh nononono
we told you dawg
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Looks like I found another brick, can't traverse from B5f to B4f.
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>>500919842
If you have already restarted and it is still giving you that, check if your characters have more items than they can carry.
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Who do I use the Holly on?
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How many crystal shard of purifications do I have to collect
>Inb4 all of them
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>>500914072
Better to have an event that f2ps can grind than an event where all the good stuff are paypig exclusive.
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What level/type of gear should i have when i take the bronze rank up quest? I'm getting raped by the mobs in the cave and it's hard to avoid all of them
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>>500919306
I've been using 2h weapons for Lana. Her luck is huge so she gets lots of follow up attacks.
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Remember how the tutorial chump was only level 30?
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>>500920458
The mobs are the real boss of that rank up, avoid them as much as possible.
The boss is the scorpion lady with the same kit, 2 wind entities things that can nuke your earth types members and they do have AOE attacks so focus them first and a coin monster on the back that use cones/macones, a precision shot from a thief should be enough to one-shot it
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>>500917521
Yeah, just got there myself after barely killing the scorpion lady.
I suppose that's a place where you return later and stronger. Just like the Goblin cave. Levelling is getting slower tho, my party is around 14 atm.
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>>500920995
I definitely killed it right after harken and resting and coming back.
Regardless there should be a pretty good bow in a chest around there.
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I can't take him seriously with that name
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There's no Harken on floor 6? Really savoring the risk here.
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>>500921153
Shagthis...
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>>500921335
Nevermind, the next floor has one at the beginning. Was sweating a bit.
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>>500921153
Pfft... Shagtits?
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>540k xp
>150k gold
thank you overnight macro
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>Didn't use the wheel
>Map progress reset
WHY
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mahalito on alice or yek?
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>>500907641
I didn't do Crucible last month
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Listen here you slut
I'll have you know I'm a married ghul
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>>500921764
The combination of the game not telling you how anything works and half the shit being bugged so you don't know if it's actually working properly is something you can't get from any other game.
You should be thankful.
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>>500921764
Crucible was the first mausoleum I cleared out because the seemingly random collection of bones was suspicious.
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>>500921994
I think I left a Daniel bone or some other shitter I didn't care about, bot got the rest.
No big loss, plus I wouldn't be surprised if the bones you already got in the crucible never come back anyway.
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where do you get more well of mind upgrades
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>>500922286
story. perfect endings, perfect sidequest endings
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Why the FUCK did they fill that one room in waterway B3F with so many fucking enemies? I went there with almost full mp but now I am stuck in the corridor with the fucking floor switch to open the door with almost no mp left and still 3 parties in my way.
I don't think I have a way out of this other than accepting death.
I have a hook of harken but I don't know if it is worth using it for this, and I don't even know if I can use it in battle.
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>>500923257
>Why is this deathtrap filled with so much death!?
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>>500923257
Can't you just Flee?
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>asian trigger game released
>thread goes so slow
it's over
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>>500923405
Ok, bye.
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>MFW using the Cave of Malice as my training arc before finishing the second loop
Soon enough! Soon enough i'm gonna become strong enough to beat Helmut with a single PUNCH!!
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>>500923368
>corridor
>>500923364
I am not playing with a fucking walkthrough
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Not entirely satisfied with how Debra turned out, needs some work still I think. And can't help, but make them look so smug. Lulu is starting to rub off on me.
>>500878930
Thanks, I'll give this a look! I actually have an old CRT TV gathering dust, but I was unsuccessful in hooking it up to PC.
>>500873739
No clue about the music, sorry. I think from what I've seen, people just play their own in the background for immersion. There are some "dungeon crawling ambience" compilations and the like on youtube.
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>>500923602
Cute.
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>The odd job is going into the goblin nest

Shoulda pay him, how do get those steel anyway?
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>>500923602
So cool!!
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>>500923813
See image here.
>>500872551
Fight fast and mean gobbos (I suggest Kantino sleep), retrieve 3 ores. I think 2 are white glimmers you have to click, and the north one is a conversation ambush fight.
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>Let me handle this
Oh great enTITTIES
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>>500923257
You only have yourself to blame for running into a corridor with 3 enemies chasing you.
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>>500924093
>No way to lose aggro in a small room
>Only way out is the switch in that corridor
>All the enemy parties are full of giganigga fishmen that you have to waste all your mp and sp to kill before they turn your frontline into minced meat
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>2nd dungeon 3rd floor
>trapped to flooded quater with locked door
>drown
>rewind is just before you drown and all backline are already drown
wtf this is BS
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So I heard that rogues can use Daggers from backrow without penalties but I cant find anything ingame about it. Is it just the sneak attack skill? Thats pretty high sp cost and needs to spam hide inbetween them. Maybe its good for boss
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>>500924283
A trap
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>>500924335
Just sneak attack. You are supposed to use a bow and swap to daggers whenever you want to use sneak
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>>500924335
It is just that skill
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>>500924283
Accepting death there isnt actually too bad, it just throws you back to start of that level. But yeah its bullshit if the trap bugs out and you cant get out because of that
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>>500919912
No one is overloaded, just checked. Good thing that I have hook in backpack.
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>>500924413
nta but hidden, swap into dagger then sneak attack?
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>>500924470
Whoa dude that's so complicated, how did you manage to come up with that yourself?
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>>500923257
Anyway, accept death or use a hook?
Which one is gonna fuck me less?
I don't know how far back accepting death puts me and what do I lose
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>>500924563
i dont have sneak attack unlocked and have no clue what hidden does still, my amelia is always on her bow
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>>500924563
Did your daddy rape you or something? what a passive aggressive reply
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So I'm stuck in the mausoleum room. For whatever reason they sought fit to lock the exit. I assume I either wait or discard my account?
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>>500924569
Accept death will keep any dead characters dead and might plonk you a bit back in the map. Hook is event or gems only.
If it was me I would guard on everyone except MC and suicide him to avoid resurrection costs and accept death.
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>>500924569
Accepting death will set you back to beginning of that level and reset any sidequests you completed after first entering it.
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>>500924442
I did and everyone is still dead. I don't even have money to rez them.
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>>500923976
Well guess I'm going to savior the risk on this one, thanks anon
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>>500924945
Hey, we're not exactly Casablanca either, you know?
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>>500925049
Casablanca was a place, not a person.
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Is the junk that gives undead bane weapons supposed to be super rare or something? Been running through floor 6 and I feel like by the time I get enough, I'll already be oneshotting undead with regular weapons.
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>>500925138
We're not exatcly Brad Pitt either, you know??
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>>500924945
Yeah this one looks disgusting but not in a cool way like ents
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>>500924827
>>500924830
Thanks.
Through some bullshit and using a flame somehow one of the parties that was in my way disappeared so I was able to get without having to accept that.
But damn that was a close one.
And this is where the speed sandals were I guess, I heard talking about them and that devs fucked players over by making it unfarmable
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>>500925229
Brad Pitt wasn't in Casablanca!
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>>500925251
S-shut up!!
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Where's the "slay the necromancer" quest to start the event? It's not showing up on my guild.
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How do you tell whether Steel or blessed Iron is better at +5/10?
Steel scales better with enhancements
But blessings also scale with enhancements

I have nearly same damage/def Steel and 4* blessed Iron. Which is better?
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>>500925387
You should clear like 4 floors in the second loop to unlock the event
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>>500925387
Finish the tutorial
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How does the masoleum works exactly? As far I understand,It cost around 45 fortitude (at least it does to my party) and you can grab one bone for free, 3 if you pay 100 gems, only for 60 minutes and per "run" right?
Does the fortitude and gem cost also matter for the other floor? If I pay up in the Crucible floor and grab the bones, can I go to the priest one and grab those again without paying the fortitude cost? If not then I assume I would need to make a new team for each "floor" if I want to grab as much as I can from the Masoleum, or risk it with a full 100 fortitude team and run in and take a 45 fortitude smack twice.

I assume the 60 minutes buff on the 3 bones is global because that would be just mean.
Could i just enter and wait the fortitude get up in the worst case scenario I ain't paying for the 60 minutes thing


>>500924335
Hide ability is a perma-buff until she die or fight ends as far as i understood, you could just sneak attack as much as want after that.
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>>500925395
Steel is better. Your specific Iron weapon might be better than any of the steel weapons you have, but steel has higher base stats.

Honestly, iron gear is in a weird place because as soon as you are able to actually farm iron gear, you quickly are able to farm steel/soil gear as well.
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>>500925387
It is required (due to a narrative mechanic) to finish the first dungeon and progress to unlocking said mechanic before the event can be started.
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>>500925591
You don't need fortitude if you avoid dying
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>the gobbo became a bondmate
that was strangely wholesome
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What is good music to dungeon crawl to?
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Do i have to save the arena NPC agan if im doing a different path or will it happen automatically?
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>>500925731
Getting steel drop with 3+ stars and good blue/green (I havent seen any purple steel at all) stats is really hard tho compared to getting a good 3+ star purple iron which I have gotten multiple already. Not going to bother grinding steel because of that right now
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What's the shorthand name for this game?

Director calls is "Wiz Daphne".
I call it Wizardry Variants.
(You) probably call it Wizzie or something (very embarrassing, 0 chance for girlfriend)

We must decide.
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>>500926034
What do you have to give for it? Or just give coin enough times?
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>>500925982
Wait, You mean that I can still eat that shit up at 0 Fortitude?
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>>500926329
Lulu's game
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>>500925591
You can open one chest, not grab one bone and being able to open three of them is a trap because of the enemies that spawn in because of it.
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>Wizardry 1 got remade 5 months ago
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>>500926059
>Her breasts are so big and sway so much
Through dick, unity.
>>500926402
Yep. So far there are no repercussions for taking fortitude hits when you're already at 0. HOWEVER, your Thief will get chest PTSD at accelerated rate and if your characters do die, then good luck, hope you're either QTE god or have flames.
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>>500926401
not that one, its another gobbo in the 2nd dungeon
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>>500926034
Pics or it didn't happen
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>>500926052
I was going to suggest Made in Abyss OST, but after hearing it for a while it doesn't really fit Wizardry atmosphere that much.
;Hack//OST works really well with the dangerous/almost alien vibe they're going for
https://youtu.be/INhZz1ISO8Q?si=jhkmQ42eooup7--K
This game really reminds me of hack for some reason.
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>Her greeting changed to be more cheerful after I deal with the goblin ambush

Did I just maxed out her affinity?
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>>500926685
No your characters get a womb tattoo when they are at max friendship.
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>>500926805
even the guys?
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>>500926052
I got you bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSU9B1tAyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGZxhwgzZo

CALLING ALL UNITS WE HAVE A GOBLIN IN PURSUIT
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>>500926685
>Ignorta-chan
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>500923602
can you share the portraits you did anon?
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Why did Lulu just stop me to say be careful of the fishmen in a place I can only move forward...
Is this the place where everyone drowns that I keep hearing about?
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>>500926972

>>500867078
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>>500926685
it's gonna be worse
She's also gonna blink at you in the post battles and Agora starts to take a liking for you too
Be careful Anon
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Wizardry 8 is $2 on Steam right now. I might actually buy it.
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>>500926642
So the coin goblin just trades same trade but nothing cool ever happens...
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>>500927029
Oh right they are lizards, I keep thinking they are fish
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>>500926498
It's just ok. I beat it earlier this year, no party member models, and combat is slow as fuck because of all the enemy animations.
The PS1 trilogy is superior imo, because you can export your characters to 2 and from 2 to 3 in it.
The music's really good in the remake though
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>>500926498
I can't understand who fucking owns this series
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>>500927257
Drecom
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>>500927118
the bundle is literally cheaper than a beer, I wonder if it runs alright on modern pcs
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Oh so undead bane weapons don't drop from floor 6 beyond the first one. What a fucking retarded idea.
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>>500927257
sirtech owns 1-5 (or 1-3 can't remember)
drecom owns the IP and any future new wizardry games
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こんにちは日本の皆さん、こちらは4chanさんです。

私たちもウィザードリィ ヴァリアント ダフネをとても楽しんでいます!

多くの西洋人男性がアメリアに夢中になっています。彼女の衣装は、私たちアメリカ人が愛する OnlyFans 文化の産物です。
フルートに夢中になった男性もいますが、それは間違いです。

非常に優れたダンジョンクロールゲームです。
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>>500927118
You should. I played with custom meme portraits couple years back and had a lot of >fun.
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>>500927257
As far I understand a Japanese company owns the rights but they aren't ashamed to lend the IP to other people, that's why we have the Wizardry remake and this Gacha made by different company and publishers
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>>500927326
>PLease install Directx 8 SDK

uggu
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>>500927326
6-7-8 are good games but their not classic wizardry, their more adventure/open world games then a standard dungeon crawler
https://youtu.be/_G0yeNCu5VU
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>>500927498
>that's why we have the Wizardry remake and this Gacha made by different company and publishers

But the gacha is Drecon, right?
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So which fights are scripted losses in the arena?
1-3-5?
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>>500927553
its 300 yen, ill have some fun with it. Are they still burtally hard? I played the remake of 1 recently and the only problem I had with it was the fucking 10th floor since you got monsters that nuke your entire party in one hit like werdna... funny enought you can kill him in one hit with a otk spell
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>>500908165
Do you have Replace checked in the refill menu?
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>>500927553
>https://youtu.be/_G0yeNCu5VU

This looks like if Morrowind was made by Naughty Dog and Rareware.
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>>500927723
more like 1 to 5. except 3 if you're on church route.
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>>500927641
Yeah but the 1's remake is made and published by Digital Eclipse, an american company.
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This OST sells the whole fucking game.
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>>500927641
Studio 2Pro
There isn't much info about them in english speaking websites, maybe nips know more no idea, but it is probably safe to assume it is a studio that drecom made to make and manage this gacha, so yeah in a way.
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>*Featured adventurers can be aquired at a later date through other Remains, such as Adventurer's Remains.

This text is under contents below the drop rates of both Wanderer Lana and Gerard.
Does it mean what it says it means? Should we all just have been hoarding Legendary Adventurer Remains?
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Where are the water god statue restoration thieves?
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>>500923405
>4 niggas in a row gameplay
>in 2025
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>>500925179
Nether hour junk doesn't seem to be very common in 6F. Drop rate is better once you get to 7F.
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>>500928406
>6 niggas in 2 rows
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>>500924826
Are you still stuck?
Post an image or tell us what's your situation
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>>500928335
They're unmoving enemies that should appear on your minimap even if you're nowhere near them.
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>>500928406
>Playing a 3 niggas in 2 rows game
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>>500923602
anon! You should share your team once you finish in twitter with it's japanese hashtag. Fairly sure they'll be happy yo talk about it and send you praise!
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>>500928503
6 niggas divided into 2 rows
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>>500927118
you should 100% get it, if anything just for the character creator; you'll have a blast with it. Mods are also quite fun.
if you want to actually play the game, you'll have to look up fan patches as the game is an abandoned mess by the devs
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>>500929073
do you get to transfer characters for 6 and 7?
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>I'M THE LADY KNIGHT AND THE MASKED ONE IS UNDER MY PROTECTION!
God, i love you so much lana
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I'm going to clear this crucible tomb before I forget again
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>the dumb water section that forces me to go back to lower the water after every fight before the boss fight

holy shit, fuck them for this time waster.
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>>500923405
Witch & Fairy Dungeon bros...
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Alright, what am I in for? Should I get a pen and paper to draw maps?
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Seriously, why the fuck does the event dungeon only drop potions and crystal powder?
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>Look for review of the game
>it's some dude talking about the gacha mechanics for 8 minutes

Are gacha players legitimately retarded?
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>>500929556
Bro is playing MSPaint Spray Can the game
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>>500929556
Check this for automap https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=528034096
There are also some fixes for bugged carry capacity and better starting stats rerolling. It's up to personal preference though.
Also, surprise surprise, Sleep spell is very good in the beginning. Bard starts with an instrument that can cast it infinitely.
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>>500927452
日本のプレイヤーと海外のプレイヤーの皆さん、こんにちは。私たちはウィザードリィが大好きです。一緒に協力して、このゲームに勝つ方法を見つけましょう。

バグがあるとイライラすることもあります。でも、頑張りましょう。私は戦い続けます!

co4B3axs27mXPjVG

これが私のパスワードです。友達になりましょう。
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>>500919912
Instead of hook tried to kill scorpion lady and repair harken. Managed to slay her at second try, was lucky that she spammed her corrosive breath instead of attacks. Got pretty good haul from that run and sold treasures for 5,8k gold, only Katya ended with low fortitude because I resurrected her during battle.
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>>500927452
>>500929903
cringe
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I like generics because they silently support me and don't bitch at me, like how good wives should be.
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>>500929715
>Are gacha players legitimately retarded?
Does a bear shit in the woods?

It is pretty sad to see them run into something like a real game and all they can think of is slot machines. I was seeing this with Sword of Convallaria too, which is a nice little SRPG with a gacha tacked on. There's a whole contingent of players who only think about rolling and treat the gameplay like some chore they have to get around rather than the actual meat of the game. They can't be motivated by a desire to save the kingdom or explore the dungeon, everything's gotta be "but how many rolls does this get me?"
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I just don't like how I can farm the SP recovery item, but haven't found a single MP one yet.
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>>500929289
Super cool!!
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>>500929894
Thanks. I just realized that there is a manual in the folder. Time to get comfy
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>>500930337
But that's objectively correct.
I myself am only saving the kingdom and playing Daphne so I can have enough gems to roll the gacha when a mesugaki loli thief appears
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>>500929715
it's that whole fucking reddit; it's like they have never read a game review in their fucking life; their point of comparison to every gacha videogame in existance isn't measured by it's gameplay, but by it's business model. It's fucking insane.
I'm not racist at all, I never let 4chin to infect me with it's vile, but God damn it, 96% of posts of that kind of quality come from people of SEA regions. Low education is plastered all over stuff like this.
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>>500930553
Worst outfit change in the game, free her tiddies
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>>500929715
ye it's better if he was talking how buggy the game is with hard and softlocks
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>>500919912
Oh my fucking god. I was bricked for a week because of this. Thank you anon
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>>500930484
Imagine if we got collabs with dlsite games. So many female adventurers to choose from.
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Isabella's Warhammer and Helm of Malice are equivalent to what item tier? Steel?
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>>500930541
>96% of posts of that kind of quality come from people of SEA regions. Low education is plastered all over stuff like this.
I'm guessing they've never played actual PC or console games to set the standard, it's all just phones down there. They've probably never tried something where the point of the game was playing the game.
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>>500930541
>God damn it, 96% of posts of that kind of quality come from people of SEA regions

You're very lucky you're not in the Mihoyo/Kuro threads. Wizardy is Nips and EN only so far. No Brazils either.
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I'm already running Alice and Yeka on the backrow, should I go with Asha for the third slot or is Adam objectively better?
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>>500929073
>el dorado
>not el dorodo
one job
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Post ACTUAL collab candidates.
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>>500927452
>>500929903
shut the fuck up retards
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>>500930979
That's where you're wrong, kiddo
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>>500931169
I don't see this collabing with any shounen or anything light hearted.
That is the feel I get at least.
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>>500931169
If AK can get a Dunmeshi collab then so can we
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>>500931308
I don't see it collabing with anything to be honest. Seems like a game that would just do its own thing.
I don't think it'll last long enough to get any collabs either but that's besides the point
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>Fountain conversation with Milana
>I couldn't help but pickpocket an adventurer at the bar yesterday
>Few days later
>Fountain conversation with Chloe
>Skelly, you're not gonna believe this, I got pickpocketed at the Tavern the other day!

Wait a second...
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Important question: do equipment traits like [Water Type Reduction] stack?
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So where do I get the animal bones for the event dungeon floor 4?
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>>500931393
AK's world is too happy go lucky compared to this
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I found my first anti-undead weapon at b7f. Is the whole point of this floor just to farm these?
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>>500931503
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>>500931285
Elmon SEX
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>>500931480
Kek, I was originally skeptical about them allowing mixed alignment parties but this stuff is golden
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>>500931308
Wizardry is the genesis of pretty much all fantasy anime and manga; they could collab with anyone they wanted, I'm fairly sure the authors would love it.
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>>500931169
lodoss war
that one wizardry LN
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>>500931503
afaik no but I haven't done any testing
I've just been going by if there's multiple copies of it in the traits menu it stacks
Putting on the ring and mask of paralyze resist gets you 2 traits but two earth armors only give you 1
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>>500931285
If we could extract the assets I would be making this a reality right now.
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>>500931547
I just don't bother with them. Priest can cast insta kill, Bardios and if you run 2 mages most undead encounters aren't a problem.
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I have no idea why, but everyone is correct; you cannot do the Soup quest until you complete the Admiral Route for whatever godforsaken reason. There Pickarel is after I completed it and jumping back to Church 3.
Stupid.
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>>500931285
How did that toshiaki do this anyway?
Is it one of those 3d porn games? Did he share the character?
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>>500931169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TniUsWaHNIA
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>Badios/Labadios missed
>"Arrow of Doom"
What now?
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>>500930541
>>500930954
Would you extend that sentiment to Mihoyo games?
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>>500931773
call on the power of bnnuy to protect you.
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>>500931756
It's AI dude.
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>>500931393
Probably Dungeon Meshi is probably the best candidate, considering it's actually (Very) loosely based on Wizardry. It'd be pretty sick to actually fight a red dragon and reverse Falin from her bones.

Even the original party can be recreated in a Wizardry game
Laios(Lord) Sureau(Samurai) Namari(Fighter)
Chilchuck(Thief) Falin(Bishop) Marcille(Mage)
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>>500923602
I'd make the bottom half of her face 1px wider on the left side, maybe on both sides even.
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>>500931850
I'm pretty sure most of the SEAnigs we're talking about are all diehard miyoho lovers, they always go on about how much they love the monetization and rolling patterns of hoyo stuff and how other games need to copy them.
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>>500932381
>they always go on about how much they love the monetization and rolling patterns of hoyo stuff
literally no one thinks this
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>>500932135
Don't think so
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>>500932179
Dungeon Meshi and Goblin Slayer are so fucking free it's unreal. So obviously, we'll get Nier Automata and Evangelion.
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>>500932507
Not before we get Persona 5
Steal Your Risk
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>>500932445
Just a few days ago there were a couple anons saying shit like "monetization is a solved equation now" and how the game's totally going to fail if they don't change to be more like hoyo's system. Zero understanding of how a game might be fun even without gambling.
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>>500932507
>So obviously, we'll get Nier Automata and Evangelion.
Don't forget Monhun and P5 (or I guess Metaphor since that's the new P6)
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>>500932381
The seanigs you're talking about defend the horrendous monetization by citing their games as "real" games, just like
>>500930541
>>500930954
Curious.
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>>500932613
I don't think even those people are arguing that mihoyo's monetization makes the game more fun, just that it makes the game more money.
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>>500878930
I personally use Sonkun shaders. I played through PSX Wizardrys with them and they looked great, but that game's dark and gloom interface isn't probably the best indicator.
https://forums.libretro.com/t/new-sonkun-crt-guest-advanced-hd-presets-thread/39091
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Where are the 4 entities in the Cave of Malice? I scoured every path two times now already and I'm not sure I'm in the mood to search all 3 floors again for the remaining 2 entities for the brazier..
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>>500932717
Admittedly, I would not mind a Rathalos Armor skin for Skelly.
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>>500932804
Just kill the same one multiple times, leave and come back
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>>500932804
I was looking for this a couple days ago and no one replied but, you don't have to go find all the others.
Just kill the ones you know where they are and go to the harken, they respawn and drop it again.
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New thread? We already at page 9.
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>>500932457
The torso is 100% AI.
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>20 minutes till reset
time to finish my weeklies
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It took so much grinding to get iron grade for my entire party as a free player. But it was worth it.
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>>500932445
truly the most disingenuous post in a gacha game thread in history
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>>500932726
>by citing their games as "real" games
Okay but they're clearly not. You'd have to be an utter retard, or one of the third worlders that's never played a real game, to not understand the distinction.
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>>500933209
>grinding
>tags
Who's gonna tell him?
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>get raped by waterway 2f boss
>out of flames
>I just go to sleep instead of accepting death
>wake up and log in again
>boss isn't there and I can access the harken
This better not come around to brick me in the ass.
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>>500932758
Sonkun is fine; I really like their new rainbow shaders, but MegaBezel and CyberLab are still better overall.
They aren't a fit all though; C64 and Amiga look better in specialized shader packs like:
https://forums.libretro.com/t/thenamec-mega-bezel-packs-amiga-commodore-64-vic20-crtgaming-soon/31523
and you can even experiment with these in japanese computers like the x68000 and all NEC variations
shaders are so addicting to tweak and match; absolutely worth it in the end once you see how GORGEOUS the games end up looking. Even PSX and Saturn, well, up to Dreamcast/Naomi even get so much juice out of them
it isn't that games looked like shit back then, it's that the hardware they used for them was completely different
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>>500933290
You can tell me. I had to grind tags - leveling up characters and then dismissing them.
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>>500933210
why would anyone defend 50% chance to get fucked over and not get the unit you want
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>>500933215
Why is she looking at me like that, what did she do this time
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>>500933286
>but they're not real games
So just like this game?
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>>500933398
>leveling up characters and then dismissing them
Doesn't that give you the same amount of tags as dismissing them from the get go?
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>>500933398
You can just dismiss them at 1 and trade the tags with the menu
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>>500932268
Thanks for the suggestion, think it became a bit better. Also trying out shaders, they certainly help hide the imperfections.
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>>500933398
Why level up the characters
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>>500933403
I don't know but there hasn't been a single gacha game I've played that hasn't had hoyofags come in and complain that the game doesn't have a genshin gacha
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>>500933632
>>500933210
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>>500933632
>people complaining about a game with potential to become a huge hit if only it didn't hobble itself with backwards monetization
Yeah screw those guys!
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>>500933509
It depends on the character. For regular characters, it gives you a tag of their current grade. For SR characters, it gives you a tag of their current grade and ungraded. For SSR, it gives you a tag of their current level and one above.

>>500933528
Yes, if you have an infinite amount of characters. But I do not.

>>500933617
So I can receive higher level tags.
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>>500933632
Hasn't been a single gacha game I've played that has, to be honest
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>>500933729
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>500933632
gacha with waifus attracts waifufags who want to pooool, why are you surprised
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>>500933787
In what scenario does using a tag to raise their grade end up giving you more tags in return?
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>>500933548
a good way of measuring how good a filter is, is watching how all these bleeding pixels all over the screen fuse together into shading itself; Wiz6 is fairly old, made for a tiny CRT resolution. Look up the C64 shaders in:
>>500933376
and judge the final result; there are a ton of shaders in there, try composite with integer scale, and from there you may want to bright up the colours a bit (this mute them as the C64 palette was made with specific CRT's in mind, should help! These games aren't supposed to have that electric colouring)
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>Corridor
>Walk into the enemy
>Ambused from the sides
???
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>>500933787
Just think about it for a second you big dummy.
You have to use a tag to get a character up from no grade to lead grade. And then dismissing them gives you a lead grade tag.
A lead grade tag is worth 2 no grade tags, right? So you spent a tag to get one more tag.
There's no difference other than your way needing the effort to level them up
This works out the same way for "SR" characters
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>>500933990
enemies spawn on top of you sometimes because fuck you
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>>500933787
>For regular characters, it gives you a tag of their current grade. For SR characters, it gives you a tag of their current grade and ungraded.
But you have to use a tag to grade them up.
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Gotta love gacha "players" pretending their gacha is the one and only one that's good and a real game, and not just a front to take their money down the line.
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>>500933942
SR and SSR characters give you 2 tags. Raising their grade doesn't change the number of tags you receive, but it changes the grade of the tag you receive.
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>>500934030
No, i saw the enemy in front of me. I attacked him from behind even
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it's the end... the final wiz thread... it was a good journey bwos... i just wish lulu feet caressing me in my final dreams...
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>>500934058
It changes the grade of one of the tags you receive, yes. But the value is the exact same.
Just to confirm something, you DO know you can just trade two no grade tags for a lead grade straight up, right?
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>>500934058
>get 2 tags from dismissing SR
>raise it a grade with 1 tag
>get 3 tags from dismissing SR
Do you see the problem here anon
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Yeka has been preventing ambushes semi-regularly for me. I love her.
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>>500934151
Event killed us...
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>>500934193
I have the money... for resurrection...
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>>500933995
No. You don't spend anything for upgrading an SR character except time. Your ungraded tag is refunded in addition to getting a lead tag.

>>500934036
That's right. The ungraded tag is refunded essentially, allowing you to grade up a second character. If all the characters you upgrade are SR, you can at least get them to the second grade infinitely.

>>500934154
Yes. By upgrading two ungraded tags, you're essentially receiving a value of 2. But by leveling an SR character up and upgrading them to lead, by dismissing them, you're receiving a value of 3 - 1 ungraded tag and 1 lead tag. This value increases at higher levels.
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Stop being an impatient faggot, threads in this board don't disappear that quickly.
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this thread is dying so I can be frank... I have started chatting with Lulu in real life, I can see her if I schizo myself enough...
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>>500934459
You stupid fuck, an SR character is by default worth 2, it gives 2 ungraded tags at level 1. You spend 2 to get 2.
So, you use an ungraded tag to get it up to Lead and then release it, and get a lead tag and ungraded tag. so you spend 3 (the default 2 + 1 ungraded tag) to get a value of 3.

What is the benefit to levelling them up exactly?
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Where the fuck do I get Miment or whatever for the Arena quest
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>>500934734
>I can see her if I schizo myself enough...
based tulpamancer
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Holy fuck this stupid bird boss for Pickarel's quest is easily the 2nd hardest boss in the game.
Anyway, with that done I've officially collected every Lantern and am out of content. I guess I can grind Knight / Thief to 40....
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weekly shop updated! Go see your new jobs for the week
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>>500934809
Because I want my main characters to be level 50. Not level 30. Without increasing the level of my characters, I can't increase their grade. And without increasing their grade, it is prohibitively expensive to trade lead for bronze tags.

What are you having trouble understanding?
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4pm reset is such a shitty time for reset
no it's not my fault that I put it off until 3:50pm
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When do you get Bonnie and Clyde's luc lamp? After giving the flowers? I got an error right after that and didn't get anything.
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oh shit bros
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ONEGAIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>500934839
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>>500935102
Anon, it's 6pm...
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>>500935090
No you dumbass, what is the benefit to raising the grade of the characters that you're dismissing. You're just getting the exact same value that you put in no matter what.
Raising an SR to Lead costs a tag, so you spend 3 to get a value of 3 back. Dismissing them at level 1 without raising their grade would also leave you with 3, the two ungraded tags from the SR plus the ungraded tag you didn't spend.
You can then trade two of those ungraded tags for a lead one, giving you the exact same end result but without needing to level a character to 20 first.
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>>500935048
>only one book
>Priest Galina
i could return her to default if I used her
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>>500935284
Shit nevermind I see it, I thought they'd put mimint in the rewards section not the quest blurb
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>>500935048
I got Alex Fighter book. I'm curious what he looks like under the helmet, but I don't want to reclass him.
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Should i buy thre daily earth gear for 60 gems?
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>>500935425
It was posted last thread, here you go
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>>500935510
Of course not
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tempting... should i?
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>>500935513
lmao
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For some reason I only got 1 class change scroll in the shop.
Maybe it's because they know how good Amelia is so it's worth 2?
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>>500935337
Because I'm raising characters to 50, which requires dismissing characters at 30 once they've graded up to bronze. Your way only works up to lead. If you want bronze or higher characters, you need to level them up. Trading tags creates a deficit in value that leveling up does not.
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what is this for? isnt she already a priest?
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>>500935513
oh no he's hot
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>>500935849
It's so you can go priest (default) > wizard > priest
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>>500935849
To turn her back.
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>>500935849
You need another scroll to change her back to priest
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>>500935849
you lose access to your old class when you class change lmao
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>>500935849
Class change scrolls are one time consumables, if you want to class change back to the original class you also need the original class scroll.
It's completely retarded and jewish beyond belief.
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>>500935849
To change her back after you change her to mage :)
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>>500913380
Looks like it was.
Good thing I did my weekly.
>>500913501
Retard
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>>500936064
I guess
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>Mihoyo monetization bad because popular
>Wizardry monetization good because class change scrolls are one time use
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>>500936160
All the fun weapons are locked behind gacha and you roll for 1/4 of a character in hoyoshit. Daphne's monetization is garbo but you're getting a full character with every pull.
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>>500936497
>you're getting a full character with every pull.
>ignoring discipline
>ignoring unique skill levels
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Are Soil weapons stronger, equal or weaker than steel?
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>>500936542
Yeah which you can inherit onto any other character. You're not locked into some gay shit like hoyoslop
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>>500936542
discipline is like +1 to a few stats and a 1% passive
Skill books exist
Constellations are entire character functions and a 3-5x power boost
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>>500936723
Equal
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>>500936497
>you're getting a full character with every pull.
Are you serious right now.
I have a question for you, how many copies of a character do you need to max out their inherited skill and discipline?
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>>500936796
Thanks
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>>500935231
after giving the flowers. go back to town. you will get a cutscene. you got luc lamp after that.
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>>500936768
you cant inherit discipline
unique skills become shit when inherited most of time
>>500936793
>Constellations are entire character functions and a 3-5x power boost
Max discipline and the skill and tell me there's no big power boost

Also all the ""fun weapon"" are also locked to the gacha in this, the only weapon with 3 attacks in the game right now is Lana gacha one
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>>500936723
2 attack lower for 1h swords. I haven't looked closely at the other weapons but they should all be the same range of 2-5 attack less than steel. Water and fire weapons have the same attack as Soil
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>>500936936
Coping hoyotard. Game has elemental weapons, mage knifes, manslayers, IQ and piety shields. None of them require spending money to get
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>>500932445
Lel well they’re here now
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>>500936936
>Max discipline and the skill and tell me there's no big power boost

There's really not from discipline. Most of the passives gained are almost nothing at all. The inherited active skills will get stronger but their MP/SP cost will also boost. This is the complete opposite of hoyo games where most of the time you get free huge stats, or remove skill point costs, etc from constellations.

You're comparing apples and oranges in the worst possible fashion. Not that monetization in wizardry is good, because it's dogshit, but I don't need to pull 3 Yekas before I can use her with another character. meanwhile if you want to run Acheron and Sparkle you'd better get Acheron to c2. Or if you want firefly to not suck up all of your SP after using her ult
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>>500937093
Are you really defending jewish gacha monetization? What the fuck is wrong with you.
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>>500937093
post your red 5* weapons you can get for free then. hell even post your manslayer thats at least 3* purple? 1-2* are completely unusable and so are whites and greens
>>500937115
nah, mihoyo monetization is garbage but that doesnt mean this game is great
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>>500936497
what character functions do you unlock with constellations?
>fun weapons
????? its a statstick that offers no new playstyle every character has 4 star weapons that are 90-95% as strong as the 5 star
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well i did see a hoyo anon pop up here earlier and did see one of them shill this game there at one point, only thing ive bought so far has been the savor the risk for the mahalito but still unsure on who to put on and i am thinking about pushing for the lana wep or just grabbing the the guaranteed legend bone at 60 pity and whos to say we wont get x3 weps once we hit the funny minerals of orichalum and mithril
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>>500937272
Never did you illiterate retard. I'll take shitty stat upgrades for dupes over completely changing how characters play all day though
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>>500937469
nta but im very curious what dupes completely change how characters play. arent they just buffs to prexisting charcter functions?
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>>500937252
>There's really not from discipline.
post your maxed discipline SSR and prove me wrong, we had a couple threads ago some jp screenshot where we saw that bonus gets better the higher discipline level and becomes actually substantial
inherited passive skills absolutely change the game
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>>500937469
>1-2* white/green named garbage items you can't get better versions of change EVERYTHING
Anon this is a huge cope and you know it.
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>>500937469
fortunately those whale shit in hoyo dont matter unless youre trying to grab titles as all they do is make you play the game less while i grinding b6f and b7f attempting to +4 my frontline and reach level 18 for my team
>>500937608
in wizardry terms i guess if you stun a character youll get a turn again or be able to cast spells for free when youd need to spend mp usually
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fresh bread when?
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>>500937608
There's characters who go from being supports to being capable of being a main DPS at c6/e6
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>>500937872
It's already baked >>500936124
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>>500937872
25 posts ago
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>>500937902
>>500937910
im blind thanks
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Well, it was what I expected I suppose.
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>>500936793
>Constellations
?
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>>500942971
The genshin equivalent.



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