D-Pad > Keyboard Edition>Previous>>500858737>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>NEWSOct 15: 60-Day Patch 2 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7291982050853715743Oct 26: Liberty Day (Constitution, DP-00 Tactical)Oct 29: 1.001.201 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4550416955418345496Oct 31: Truth Enforcers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m053YyNixug>CURRENT WARBONDOct 31: Truth Enforcers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m053YyNixug
LOBBY. NOW.
>>500956035Jeebus calm down.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241749209745/76561198024623656I dunno what we're doing yet, probably bots. D10s of course.
>>500956175fuck you
>>500956175ITS PRIVATE.
>>500956175Private
>>500956175
>>500956175FUCK Ok its open now.
What's your favorite "unpopular" weapon?For me, its the liberator carbine
>>500956386Failed to join.
>>500956386Did it fill up immediately or are you memeing?
>>500956487It filled up instantly
HOLY FUCK SOMEONE ELSE HOST LOBBY.
>>500956594>>500956723Fine, I'll do it myselfsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241748235667/76561197996410229Probably Bots 10
>>500956410Liberator and the normal DiligenceToo many shitters out there than can't aim for weakspots and just go with medium pen weapons
>>500956410For me, it's got to be the purifier. I bet a lot of people don't even know how good it is. Yep, just me, a peak enjoyer of niche kit.
>>5009567363/4
>>500956752>I-Is that a factory strider? AIEEEE HELP ME RR-KUN ACK
>>500956941*unzips lasercannon*leave the factory strider to me, RR-kun
>>500956736full
>civilian evac mission>retard grabs the SSD from the sub-objective and runs off with it>I execute the retard and bring it back to finish the objective>host kicks me for teamkillingIt's no wonder bugdivers lost this MO
If I pick a support weapon that doesnt excel at taking down chargers and other heavily armoured bugs, what is a good priamry option?
>>500957576EVERYONE LOOK, HE'S TOO SOCIALLY STUNTED TO SIMPKY TYPE IN CHAT AND EXPLAIN WHATS GOING ONHAHAHA. THIS NIGGA ACTS WITHOUT COMMUNICATING
>>500957749cuckout/incel breaker any primary really.
>>500956752I like the normal diligence for bots but it forces you to take an anti-medium support weapon to deal with the rocket striders at d8+.
>>500957905just shoot the rockets anon
>>500956410The liberator concussive. Not because it's good or useful, but you can ragdoll people without killing them.
>>500957964That isn't reliable and you know it. Don't be disingenuous.
>>500957868Any primary is good at dealing with chargers? Really?
>>500957749halt
>>500957576>he cant talk on miclmao
>>500958073Then bring a Verdict or Senator for the few rocket chickens you can't kill by shooting the rockets
I need some pussy.
>>500957782People don't pay attention to the chat and it was likely some gook or spic on PS4.
>>500958085Oh sorry I was pretending to be retarded. Use crossbow/scorcher shoot it's ass and in about a mag it bursts it.
>>500958073>That isn't reliable and you know it.It is as long as you have a pen2 weapon that can't break the mounts. Not saying it's easy or I'm perfect at it, but I've run d10 with just the scythe for handling medium enemies.
>>500958290
>>500958085You just have to shoot it in the bugussy. Stuns help.
>>500956410The Scythe is my guilty pleasure and always has been
rocket chickens are going to be nerfed soon, thank fucking god
>>500956410Plasma Punisher. What a unique weapon it is. Shame it sucks shit, cock and fucking balls.
>>500957782Ummm, er... sir. P-P-Please bring back the SSD>愚蠢的美国人。别告诉我该做什么。vs.Getting the job done immediately.
>>500956410base liberator (for defaultdiver LARP) and punisher
>there are actual retards who prefer to play with pub aids than with the gennykek.
>>500957749Use thermites, that's what they're for
>>500930402>RecoillessOption 1: Reduce its damage down to 2600 or so. It can still kill any big bug with a single headshot and take down Factory Striders in two headshots (one if you hit the eye), but now requires 3 bodyshots to kill a Bile Titan and can no longer kill Tanks with a single shot to the front/side chassis. Also opens up leeway for tough future enemies that are more difficult to kill by Recoilless but easier to kill by Spear.Option 2: Increase reload time by 25% and/or move reload completion to after resetting the breech on the back (so you can't cancel the animation after the shell is reloaded). The whole point of Recoilless being better was it having to stationary reload, so make it more punishing.>EATIt's pretty much fine, but for improvements they could slightly reduce the delay between pulling it out and it being ready to fire.>QuasarGive it an alternate fire mode, Pre-Charge. In this mode the weapon will build up to 90% charge while on your back, but firing will immediately burn it out like other laser weapons, and you'll have to swap out the ICE before being able to use it again (and the weapon will have to pre-charge again before you can fire it). You have two spare reloads, and have the option to reload it in its regular firing mode if you don't want to wait 15 seconds.So, basically let it act as a weaker Recoilless with only two reloads, and in its infinite ammo state allow it to bypass the cooldown with a reload.>CommandoBoost its damage to 1400, and increase projectile speed by 50%. Now it can headshot basic Chargers and Spore Chargers, and doesn't have issues leading targets, making it more useful against Gunships.
>back then you can just run behind the scout strider and kill the pilot with whatever weapon, but it's risky especially when there's other bots around giving it cover fire>now you either have to aim for their fucked up rocket hitbox or stuck with medium pen primaries that handled like shit and feel like shit to useWhy can't AH just take the normal scout strider and strap the rocket racks on their sides and call them Assault Strider or whatever? It can be the best both worlds, the rockets still going to ragdoll you 10km away but at least you can run behind and shoot the pilot instead of whatever buggy gear check abomination we currently having to deal with.
That 60 day overhaul really saved this game huh. We went form 4-5k players back to 60k+ consistently.
>>500960732>2600That's enough to side kill a tank turret, they have a little over 2100 health. Even EAT/Quasar can do it because that shitty explosion they produce damages the vent which takes 200% damage to turret's main health pool.
>>500961060Your giving AH too much credit, they don't think that hard about shit they introduceTheir only thought was "how can we make bots harder" so they threw in two ragdoll instadeath machines with rocket chickens and barrager tanks
>>500961238 meoh wait you said chasis. disregardstill, I don't think this would change much for RR
>>500958301I type in chat all the time what are you talking about?
>>500960118If I use thermites, i cant TK my entire squad with incendiaries.
>>500961204turns out nerfing everything makes the game shit and unenjoyable
>>500961060They just need to make either the legs or the crotch vulnerable to light penetration. Either that or but a glowing red weak spot like the other bots that we can shoot. Its annoying that they are pretty much the only bot enemy that can't be killed by light penetration other than tanks and cannon towers.
>play mission by myself to fuck around>try to use grenade>view glitches through the map and nothing fixes it so I just have to run around and die>respawn>go back; try and throw another grenade>view glitches againWhat the fuck is causing this shit!?
>Bring strafing run>Get killmogged by pubbies>Bring eagale airstrike>Killmog, but no objectivesWhat do I choose?
>>500961204It's fucking amazing. There has been zero (0) actual new content except for a meme gun and two mediocre warbonds but we're staying remarkably stable even since the first buff patch
>>500962509>make game fun again>people play without needing a carrot on a stick to chase afterTruly a mystery for the ages
>>500962192combine strafing run with napalm barrage
How do we feel about the newest warbond? Are any of the weapons worth it? Let's say over the polar patriots warbond?
>>500963169cool drips and emote, shit weapons and booster
Why doesn't Super Earth stick to powerful orbital bombardment instead of sending men with guns on-planet?
>>500963576Booster is great, the health drain is totally negligible
>>500963169The shotgun is great for bugs
this MO was so fucking rigged what the fuckthis is such bullshit
>>500963926literally anything is great for bugsbugs do not have any hard requirements
>>500964079They do thoughever.
>>500963715They are cutthroat capitalists. That would be a waste of taxpayer money to just bombard enemy position haphazardly.
>>500963715Just blanket bombarding the planet is super inefficient and they wouldn't actually get much done. Bugs would just keep building their tunnels deeper and deeper and only come out to repel us when we tried to land, bots could probably do something similar or build big shield arrays. Boots on the ground means all your weapons have pinpoint accuracy for maximum efficiency.The real question is why they don't give us long range laser pin pointers to just paint every single target from a comfortable distance. Also population control. >>500964079There are many guns that aren't great for bugs. This gun is great for bugs.
>>500963169It's worth it for the emote alone
>>500964138Incorrect, howeverbeit
How do I reduce the sway on stuff like the HMG? I don't even touch it in favor of the stalwart
>>500964273peak physique perk from viper commandos armor
>>500964273Peak physique armor perk
>>500963715equipping every single destroyer with sophisticated radar, lidar, and scanning equipment as well as the personnel needed to operate those systems that would be needed to accurately identify targets and structures on the surface of a planet is much more expensive than the equipment of a single expendable dude they can drop to the surface instead
>>500963715Considering a decent helldiver can blow several bases with a few grenades and a fucking crossbow, i would say we're a better investment.
>>500964258Wrongbeit.
you can tell botTARDs never play anything more than d5 bugs (if they ever play bugs) because they run towards the beam
>>500963169The SMG is like a close-range Adjudicator and some people like the stun shotgun
>>500963169I like the shotgun, the smg is good but needs a bigger magazine. Haven't tried the sidearm because the grenade pistol is mandatory.
>>500963763It's 24 seconds of running without vitality booster and 2 whole minutes with it
I can't believe they still haven't made a mod to make you permanently white
>>500965818Nexus would never let that stay up because they worship niggers.
>>500965818they didit got removed from nexuslike thrice
>>500965939Seriously? Usually they the banned ones get posted her I don't recall ever seeing it
>>500965818https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/259
>>500965931I don't think even those faggots would have a leg to stand on, the mod would just locl on on a race, it could be any of them>>500966120>AugustDamn, I swear I was looking for one in september and didn't found itThanks
>>500965818you still look like a negro to other people so lol
>>500966362yeah that's a common thing with 4channel posters
>>500966362It's okay if your soul is white
>>500956175AT THE LAST MOMENT YOU HIT ME WITH THE SPICY SCOUT SHAKEHOW COULD YOU HIT ME WITH THE SPICY SCOUTSHAKEYOUR OWN FELLOW DIVER
>>500966120>all of the downloads are for white skinvery clever of the author to make one for every skin color despite the obvious use of the mod
>>500956175>He fell for the scout handshake
cool weapon, thoughts?
>ITT, mulattos with "white" skin wishing they were actually white
>>500963169The shotgun is cumbersome but stun mode is godly if you have a teammate with a high DPS weapon to take advantage of the crowd control. The SMG is utter dogshit because of the spread (only usable on bugs, where the raw numbers make it unusable because of its stupidly small magazine). The pistol is okay but is more crowd control than damage.Like all modern warbonds, it's complete shit out of the gate but there's a high probability that it will get buffed later on, so there's ultimately no downside to buying it.
>>500966807I use it solely because I like the look and feel of a regular semi auto handgun, and the default one is useless dogshit. I dont like using the senator because I dont like revolvers
>>500966618
>>500966852>ITT, anon gets upset that his racism report only worked on one post
>>500966852I'm whiter than this guy
>>500966995>nigger skin is the least downloadedShould I even be surprised?
>>500956175ggs
>>500967401Funniest shit I've ever seen.
>>500967401SQUISH
>>500967758wtf is this walking animation?
>>500966120>crashes my gameWould Sweden go this far to put niggers in my game!?
>>500967879only possible on console
>>500968054You can also just plug a controller
They should give the bots something like this.Make Commissars or Devastators throw these out occasionally.Really weak, dies to 2 shots from a liberator but fast and agile.Doesn't deal too much damage to a diver but if ignored can be deadly.Would give the bots a way to get divers out of cover aside from vacuum suck explosions.
>>500967879Controller, I am assuming. Joystick allows you to vary your walk speed. Or it's one of those fancy things I heard about that is basically a controller-esque thumbstick that replaces your keyboard and still allows you to use your mouse in conjunction with it.
>back-to-back chudcore in the storekek
>>500966807It's a cooler vanilla gunThe medium pen is sometimes useful for robot chickens if you bring a light pen primary, but I don't use it much even though I always bring it with me.
Just make these rock walls alleyways Arrowhead, that's all you need to do. I don't even want cities a this point just some two to three story frontier type build-a-town or something PLEASE.
>>500963169It's all good.The armor passive is so-so, and so is the booster.But the aesthetics, and weapons are top tier.
>>500968732is it the same rotation or a new set?
>>500969039new sets only come with new warbonds RETARDit's just the brapchud slop
Why dont we get an AR that fires the same rounds the Senator does?According to the wiki its 12mm, probably depleted uranium or tungsten penetrators.Abjudicator is 8mm and the Reprimand matches the Senator's caliber.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241766903931/76561198070044660d10 whatever
>join pubbie game>hostile marked when I drop in>go land on it>wait why isn't it mov->giant explosion, killing 2 out of 3>it was a hellbombI'm sorry lady liberty
>>500969039It's the field chemist helmet, AKA the superior chud helmet.
>>500966807Took the old Senator role and good for it.I still use the Senator for the aesthetic but I do like the Verdict.
they should just make the halt rounds both flechette and stun, simply reduce the stun a bitit wouldn't even be top tier
>>500969207Yea I know but this time they put a full set with cape and banner I was hoping they were hiding a heavy armor set in the rotations as well
>Railgun are a crutch>contrarian niggers use the Arc thrower because it's less popular than the railgun>Autocannon are a crutch>contrarian niggers now switch to the railgun / AMR because it's less popular than the autocannon>RR are a crutch>contrarian niggers now switch to the AC because it's less popular than the RRwhat's next?
>Join Leandivers lobby>Put my Stalwart on the highest RPM to show off>It's too high, I can't hit anything>Put it back down to 850sigh
>>5009692963/4
>>500969605>All the less popular choices are still crutchesLol, typical /vg/ niggas
>latest news dispatch indicates that the Terminids will be attacking Gloom-adjacent worldsWhat is Joel planning?>>500969371>dog-faced discount brapchud helmet>superior>implying
>Discord: I wonder what all those 4channers are doing in all those lobbies that they share with each other
>>500969678>stalwartSorry lad.Leandivers are only interested in HMGs.
please stop crashing please stop crashing please stop crashing please stop crashing please stop crashing game desperately needs a rejoin mechanic
>>500969786>forgot webm like the retard I am
>>500969964>social>recent players>join player's squad
>>500969304>join lobby>land near detector tower>see hellbomb>I'll go activate it>it's already-ACK
>>500969747mk3 chud looks like it was hit with a pan in the face over and over
>>500969964verify your files
>>500970178>memetic ritual dance to psychically kill niggers, jews and gaysI knew it! They are up to no good!
>>500970178lmao amazing
>>500969304That's what happens when you dive with a STUPID SEXPOSTER
laser cannon or AMR? I'm so fucking tired of backpack support weapons, I wanna fly with the jumpack aaaaaaaaaaaa
Foesmasher is my favorite cape and the one I use the most, but Cover of Darkness is pretty fucking sleek
>>500970653Depends
>>500970653AMR. Laser cannon is underwhelming.
>>500970653AMR honestly. It does everything the LC does but faster and with a better scope. Not to mention you can rapid fire it in a pinch to rape berserkers that get close.
I never play against bugs. What do I do when there's a flamethrower tard on the team? Suddenly I am really scared to throw any reds on top of him.
>upgrade gpu to 4070 ti>game runs at 40fps at max settings in 1080pWHAT THE FUCK SWEDEN
>>500971187Flamethrower tards accept they might end up being killed by FF, it's part of the pact.
>>500971137>>500971307nigger don't spam this thread (if you're not lying your pc is clearly bottlenecking that shit)
>>500971187Normally, as a former flamethrower chad, you would stay on the edges of the fight, close to your team but away from then so not to burn them. If he's wading into the bug pit on his own, then he's probably a retard.
>>500971187Just give a care but other then that, yeah they know they have to be careful themselves. As long as you don't throw unescapable reds right on top of their heads, they'll be fine.
>upgrade gpu to 4090>game runs at 20fps at lowest settings in 720pWHAT THE FUCK SWEDEN
>>500969747If I were a betting man, I would say that the Arturion and Hawking Sectors will be under threat. Nobody wants to fight for Socorro, Esker, Bore Rock, Erata Prime, Fenrir, Estanu and Crimsica for the twentieth time.
>dispatch 50 minutes ago warning of imminent attack on Gloom-adjacent planets>2 hours to go on liberating GacruxWHAT THE FUCK SWEDEN
BOTS D10 JOIN NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241769700705/76561198081046098
>>500971716>500h in darktideew
>have 7900xt>game runs at 80-90fps at medium-high settings in 2160pFUCK THE WHAT DENMARK
>chud armor finally released>*cricket*damn, I thought you niggas were hype for this
>>500969747Corrected the outlines on the strategic map, btw.
>>500971808how do i even respond without sounding mad ToT
>>500971905>AMDjeetew, too poor to buy Nvidia?
>>500967401
>>5009717163/4
>>500971913The one everyone wanted was matte black with scratches revealing bare metal underneath. The one we got was black and red plastic bullshit.Also, people were saying the helmet proportions were kind of doofy before, and they're right, which is especially obvious now with Chud Helmet MK2 which managed to come out before the much awaited datamined chud helmet and blow it the fuck out entirely.
>upgrade gpu to AMD Radeon RX 7600>game runs at 40fps at lowest settings in 1080pWHAT THE FUCK SWEDEN
>>500971913We got the toys r us version
>>500971716Get one more in here so we can get diving
>>500972086nah, just too old for a children's toy brand like nvidia
>>500971716Full
Why do my games crash and then I have to reverify all the time? What is happening? People said "Pub AIDS" what is that exactly?
>>500973925>People said "Pub AIDS" what is that exactly?A terrible epidemic that is wiping out our youth.
>>500966807Needs a little more damage so that it can one-shot warriors to the head. Extremely solid pick against bots though.
What the fuck I just crashed AFTER reverifying and replacing the files.
>>500975145bots?
>>500961204Crazy isn't it? I wonder how it would've been if they didn't nerf shit and didn't have the PSN fiasco. They dedicated a good chunk of time to fishing shit that we probably would've been at Illuminate by now.
>>500975210Bugs
>>500971940what's the yellow fog?
>>500975698soz i'm a bit gassy hahhah
Well this was fucking nothgin
>>500975698
>>500975698Nothingburger
New drawing, now i can sleep.
New personnel record.
>white skin mod crashes my gamesweden moment
>>500976462nice
>>500976462Hellbomb stratagem when?
>game just crashed twice ruining two divesyeah guess this game is getting shelved for a week or two
>>500963169I've seen the Halt able to stun a pack of Stalkers (3-5) for several seconds and being disposed of by a single Diver siwtching between Fletchete and Stun rounds. Probably much better when paired with an actual DPS secondary or Support weapon.The Dead Sprint Booster is much better than was anticipated, and it goes to the top of the Booster tierlist when paired with the Vitality Booster.Unflinching Armor Perk so far seems useless to counterproductive. The armors are good looking, although the Jin-Roh one has broken meshes and ugly unfinished textures.That's my take.
>>500976106oyasumi, drawanon-san
>>500976630Rotating ammo type firing mode when
>>500977068Honestly, a simple hotkey to switch Ammo types would make the gun incredibly easier to use. Same for the AC and RR fire mods.
>>500976607When you load the SEAF artillery with a mini nuke
>lobby is private>lobby is private>lobby is fullGacrux can go fuck itself.
>>500965279>Haven't tried the sidearm because the grenade pistol is mandatory.You should try the senator or dagger, they might not be explosive, but the dagger is ideal for clearing chaff, mines or eggs and always ready when you need it since you dont need to reload after use. The senator can dispatch even berserkers and devastators. Ideal if you want to go for primaries or support weapons that dont do everything.
>>500978041you know what to do
anyone else games crashing? the fuck is going on all of a sudden
>>500978184they released some patch two weeks before the warbond and i never crashed at all for the entire time period, now with release of the warbond the rampant crashes are back and affecting everyone. fucking swedes.
>imminent attacks on gloom-adjacent planetsabout time we get some new bugs
>no new MO until TuesdayI sleep
they're just waiting for the bugniggas to finish capturing gacrux
>>500978184Yes. I am crashing all over the place including directly after reverifying files. Usually it would let me play a few games before crashing again, now it'd directly crashing even after a fresh install.
>>500978572>>500979435damn, I am seriously disappointed with this shit at the moment
>>500978184The game is trying to spawn illuminate snipers since the last patch
>>500971716>>500973194its over, thanks to those who came
>all these worthless fucks on random planets cost us the major>almost a day later and there's even more useless faggots on those planets doing nothingSweet fucking liberty, you cunts are fucking retarded. On the bug side alone we still haven't fucking taken Gacrux and you've got almost 10k failfucks still trying to take Trandor and Partion who haven't even scored a single goddamn percent of ground on them. And those are planets outside of our control zones! Like, I would understand if they were at least trying to take Gar Haren because it sits in the middle of planets we fucking control, but no! Face the fucking wall, each and every goddamn one of you wastes of space.
>>500980236MO's aren't worth bothering with unless there's a unique reward other than the useless medals.
>>500980220Hell yeah. Pretty quick and clean.
>>500980095god I hope soimagine if they didn't do an illuminate snipers event at this pointwhat a waste
surely there's a better term than bugniggers
>>500980236Cry more, MOrilla. Complete filler orderNo one cares.
>>500980236They're helldivers, not hellstrategists
>>500980701Terminiggers
>>500980701Why would we need one
>>500980236For the millionth fucking time, its scripted you stupid retard.
>>500980701bugGODS
>still no option to communally decide to skip reward screen
>>500980906No, a large chunk of the playerbase (mostly botfags) are retarded laziasses and have no sense of strategy.
>>500981119Its scripted. You stupid fucking retard.
>incoming bug MO
>>500980906Bull. Shit. Last night, if everyone had actually been on the fucking planet, we would have won. We had the fucking numbers to. Oh, sure the story will continue "because the story has to, no long term consequences hyuk hurrrrr." But that's beside the point. There will always be sports matches, but it looks bad for the team that always fucking loses because the quarterback goes off in the corner to jerk his cock instead of making the play.
>the people who are about the MOs are same ones spamming threads with "JOEL MADE IT MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE" "JOEL IS GIVING IT TO US FOR FREE NOW">they still, STILL don't get that literally nothing they do mattersvery low iq
>>500980973>doesn't enjoy the cathartic reward screen after a missionLooks like you need to go back to playing with the biggest pub retards for it to invoke feelings in you again
>reloadinghonestly blitzer is probably the best gun vs buggoids
>>500980701Bugchasers or pozdivers
Despite making up only 70% of the population bugdivers are responsible for 100% of MO losses
>botfags trying to cope for solely fucking up the MOlolLMAO
>>500981256>everybody switches to the planet>WTF JOEL BUMPED UP THE SHIGGYDIGGY RATE WE NEED MORE PEOPLE!!!!!
>>500980701BUGNIGGERS (DOO DOO-DOO)THEY JUST WANT TO DIVEBUGNIGGERS (DOO DOO-DOO)REDDIT IN DISGUISEBUGNIGGERS WON'T HELP ANYONE DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES OFTHE AUTOMATONSBUGNIGGERS
>>500981419I think arc weapons are gay so I use the punsiher
>>500981419Imagine if you got good at hotswapping laser guns instead
>>500981419Nah, it's alike a pump shotgun but slower rof and less reliable. I want to like it, but shotguns just perform better.
>>500981593laser guns dont flinch bugs like blitxer can
So uhhhh the Halt fucking sucks.
>>500981419>can't save your team mates from getting bug raped without zapping them as wellHmmm nyo
>>500981689You flinch them by melting their heads off
>>500980701I just call them bugcasuals, because casuals is what they are
>>500981256>it looks bad for the team that always fucking losesLooks bad in the eyes of who? Nobody is judging you. And "always fucking loses" is an absolute hyperbole because this is the first lost order in a long time.
>>500981783>rush towards you and does 3-4 swipes with no head
>>500981762No, iz bug gun. Having a shotgun with med piercing and stuns on demand is great.
>>500981593>Charging the thing whenever you want to shootno bueno
>>500981256Its. Fucking. Scripted.Jesus how many times do people need to point out the obvious for you to get it? Do you actually think the NPCs on the ship are real too? This level of delusion is insane.
>>500981827>Nobody is judging you.>...Yet.
Did we get the Intel on the Jet brigade? Technically we did complete all the bot MO while the bug babies pooped their diapers and didn't complete their objectives
Bugs are more fun than bots, simple as.
>botfags drag ass on incredibly easy defense>get carried by bugfags last few days>15-20k botfags return to bots because they can't handle bugs>its somehow bugfags' fault botfags barely did anything this MO, causing it to fail
>>500982056This, except the opposite.
>bugcasuals already trying to gaslight everyone into thinking they didn't lose this MO like the lost all the other ones
Maybe the community just failed the MO you dumb direction brained hellretards. Are people not aware that most of the player base is constantly swapping back and forth between both fronts?
>>500981762for bots pair it with the Verdict and mostly use the stun mode, for bugs pair it with the secondary flamer or laser and use the stun mode.
>>500982271>Are people not aware that most of the player base is constantly swapping back and forth between both fronts?hey man not sure if you knew this but you can hover over the map screen and see that 90% of players only want to fight the more interesting faction
>>500982056Bugs are more fun if your IQ is below 90
>>500982271How the fuck would our democracy work if there wasn't a clear 2-party system where we could blame the other for any issue?What a fucking idiot.
>>500982378In the last MO people went back and forth plain as day. Get over it.
bugniggers having a melty rnaccept the loss and move on
>>500982231You tards spent the first 3 days with 0 defenses won while bugfags were working on their planets (with no help from botfags). Yes, it is definitely botfags this time.
>>500982005>Did we get the Intel on the Jet brigade?It's "being decoded" i.e. it's a nothing burger just like Database One.
Fuck it. I'm just going to don the Truth Enforcers armor, go to the where the stubborn fucks are playing, join their team and then start dropping 180s and mines while chastising them for their poor decisions.
>>500982498>Joel sets up 0 bot defenses>botchads can't do something that doesn't exist>meanwhile bugtards split themselves over 5 different planets and don't conquer a single one
This is the lamest attempt to keep your dead general alive ive ever seen
>>500982438>back and forthPretty sure only 30% of people actually ran to the MO.Bugfuckers always had like 20% fucking around on different planets while the botchads always came together to defend a planet.
>>500982701Face the wall, you dissident tranny.
>>500982701Public executions for bait posters
>>500982651There were two easy defense missions right from the start. You fags instead thought to take Matar Bay first. You are coping.
>>500982498It's the same shit every MO with these fags.Ignore all botdivers.They're not even people.
>>500982701>No content>No actual updates>Desperate players trying to create reddit memes to keep convo alivePretty much
>>500983036keep coping bugfucker, you lost us this MO
>warbond drops>3 days later>NO CONTENT, DEAD GAME>not even the first time this has happened
>>500983172Stop projecting, retard.
>>500982726We of the Bugdiver Kingdom considered helping out, but we decided that you're a bunch of cunts and that it's funnier to watch you bitch and scream instead.
>>500983202One warbond every 2 months isn't much in terms of content, and most people here have 250 medals to go when it drops
>>500983202Like it or not, we live in a time where most people need to be constantly distracted from their own lives. Things are assigned value by how much attention they're getting. Everything needs to be hyped to the max all the time or people just leave for the next thing.
>>500983478Generation of iPad babies that need their constant stimulation or they start to cry.
>>500983012Matar Bay was taken because it stopped the attack on Marfark
>bugiots FAILED to take Gacrux in time
We need the illuminates already.
>>500983629And wasn't this defense happening after the first two were ignored? Botfags dragged ass.
>>500983741We all know that will only split the bot population, bugdivers won't budge an inch from their casual mode faction
>>500983939It'll be the biggest contrarian shitflinging flamewar ever seen.And I'll be over here stomping bug guts and laughing at you nerds arguing over who's more hardcore for playing the less popular factions.
>>500983202If you think three days until complaining starts is bad, go to /wfg/.>three minutes pass>people start ironically saying "where content">three hours pass>people start unironically saying "where content">three weeks pass>people start moaning about content droughts
>>500984165aww, you're such a precious special needs boy
>>500983904The first two happened at the same time, meaning one was lost anyways, plus we knew intel on the jet troopers was more important than a few planets.You bugroids on the other hand had 1 single viable target at any given time and still failed.
>>500983202it's just not very different from what we already had
>>500984246When you get older you learn that you cannot use contrarianism as a substitute for a personality.
>Imminent Gloom-adjacent invasion from bugs.What are you gonna do when the invasion moves westward to the Galactic front and we get Cyborg Terminids?
>>500984345Both could have been done with 12k each. Essentially, if the blob focused them instead of Matar, almost half of the defense requirements would have been completed on the first day.
>>500984464your mommy must be very proud when you manage to shoot a bug or two without drooling all over your controller!
>>500984610And then we would have lost Marfark, meaning we would have had to go through Martale to get to Matar Bay
>>500984756And your mommy was very proud when it managed to get all of it in her mouth rather than her face and hair.
>ITT: MOnkeys having a shitfitMy favorite part of any HD2 discussion is when a major order fails. I still remember the giant temper tantrum that came from the Tibit order.
>>500983202>3 freemium guns literally nobody is using after 2 monthsthe service... is live....
>>500984963I'm still using the Halt I've been waiting for a medium pen shotgun that isn't a KSG
>>500984863your rambeling is starting to become incoherent, its time for you nap
>>500982271Most of my friends refuse to fight bots at all. Every time we play together it's bugs regardless of MO
bugniggers bugniggers bugniggers bugniggers OH NO I'VE BEEN PSYOPPED bugniggers bugniggers bugniggers
>>500984810No, you wouldn't. You could have gotten the first two done in 12 hours and then gangbanged Marfark. Bugfags had 2 other planets to take which was impossible to do it in time unless botfags helped. But they didn't.
>>500985295And your English has completely and utterly broken down proving that you were only ever a butthurt brownoid ESL in desperate need for some pic related to soothe your savagely pained ass.
>ugh fucking bugdivers fucking up the MO!>ugh fucking botdivers fucking up the MO!>when in reality it failed because the numbers were dramatically adjusted in the last hour
>>500984551when the bloom attacks we'll get those tier 3 hunters and hive lords
>>500985693Nice alternate history script, but it's a shame it's wrong.
>>500955721https://youtu.be/yXx7HVrfYacGet down
>>500985982I don't think the numbers were adjusted at all, they were always trash.People knew taking Gacrux was impossible 2 days ago because half the playerbase was fucking around on other planets.
>>500980701Insectards?
>>500985962Oh gee, these evil evil brown ESLs live rent-free in your little fragile mind. How sad. Ask your mommy for a fresh nappy, ok?
>>500986053There's that projection again.
>>500980701Buggers and botters
>>500980701Bestdivers.vs the bot-only players; teendivers.
>>500986374>teendiversI support this namet. ugly bastard
WHAT ARE MY ORDERS?
>>500986374>bot-only players>implying those exist
>>500986308When I'm done fucking your mom, you can call me daddy.
>Acamar secured again>more bugs inside the perimeter so more fuel>the space station's progress is going ahead as planned, even better now with increased fuel productionSo, what's the problem now?
>>500986483Go to whatever planet the blob from Gacrux is going to
>>500981119>mostly botfags>not sense of strategyDamn must me hell of retardation of bugniggering to say that
>>500986587Your flimsy grasp on reality keeps slipping. You really need your nap, my precious special needs boy.
>>500986612We did it a few hours too late and didn't get our good boy points
>>500986686When I'm done with your mom, okay?
>>500986845Well, good luck fucking a corpse then.
>>500986661>not sense of>must me hellESL-kun...
>>500986987He's fucking pissed right now because I keep mocking him.
>>500984464>reddit pictureGo back bugnigger
>>500962509Fuckoff metric-kun. Your statistical voyeurism is not appreciated here. >>500970384...A bunch of anons are now required to record themselves doing this irl and smiling happily at the results, so a bunch of us can start recording people we don't like keeling over to psychic damage to fully manifest the meme template.
>>500987131It's just 55 medals, you pooper pummeled crybaby.Stop crying about the failed MO already.
>>500987379>bugnigger incompetence
How is the halt?
>botfaggots are crying again
>>500988140camp the med pen shells against bugs swap against alphas, stalkers and charger butts only. meme on bots
>>500988140the only thing in the warbond that's not shit
>>500988140Flechettes are great against bots. Stun is great against bugs.
Did the swedes stealth revert the bots prefiring behind cover?
>>500988334Can someone translate brainrot for me?
>>500988424They are NORWEGIAN.
>bugfuckers can't stop shitposting after costing everyone the MO
>>500988516it really doesn't take much brain power to understand what he's saying, especially since you have context
>>500988617You're right. We need more bugdivers so we never fail a bug op again.
>>500963169>vitality>stamina>exp stim>dead sprintI can fully enjoy a true Aimo Koivunen experience. Thank you AH.
>>500988682No. I don't get it.
>>500988516Sorry sir. The shotgun is quite good against Terminids I've found as the medium penetration shells kill most targets in just 1 or 2 shots. However I do recommend using the stun function against Brood Commanders and Stalkers as you may not kill them before they charge you down. It also functions well at stunning chargers if you shoot their backside soft spot. The gun however does not perform very well against Automatons as they have far engagement distances however it does perform well in close ranges with its high damage against the many medium targets bots offer but like all shotguns it is really a novelty on that front.
>Polar Patriots>Chemical Agents>Freedom's Flamewhich one should I get?
>>500988617They are so incompetent they can't even take one single planet with 40k divers. Pathetic.
If botdivers are so great, why do they keep losing the bug MOs?
>>500988140Fun. I prefer it on bugs through. Either you pick stun, flechette or switch between both are good on their own or combined since switching will give you another set to shoot without reloading. I like to use stun to stall or flechette when I need to clean up quick. Going to experiment with stun only but adding in gas.
>>500989474Why botdivers would play bug MO and thus lose it? Are you retard?
>>500980701BUGGIES OWO
>>500989775ESL-kun...
>>500989474Because fighting with bugdivers is the most exhausting thing you can do in HD2. They have no concept of danger close or thinking before they shoot. All my deaths against bugs come from getting teamkilled, because bugfuckers are absolute mouthbreathers that happily run mortars against a melee faction
>>500989363They're each a bit different but Polar for a more generalized loadout if you don't like fire or gas. The weapons are actually decent now, the armors and perk are okay too.
>>500989865I was told by a botdiver once that you're only as good as you can carry...
>>500989863Post hand
>purifier (for AoE trash)>RR (for antitank and fab sniping)>one turret>500 for anything you need it forI just trivialized bots.
Spending time with non ballistic weaponry has been revealing.>the scorcher ammo nerf was completely unwarranted and make this gun absolutely starve for ammo>the plasma punisher is nearly unusable at high level bots because they just don't kill chicken walkers fast enough>plasma purifier is somehow immune to plasma nerfs and is somehow god tier because swedish balancing >sickle and scythe perform similarly to the point where I'm not sure if there's a significant difference>dagger is the pre buff scythe>laser cannon is a bot swiss army knife and is never a bad pick but struggles against tanks specifically>quasar is a solid anti tank and turret weapon but you will starve on medium primary ammo. It's also the only energy weapon that can kill fabricatorsOverall I think they're actually not in a fantastic place. Purifier is stupidly OP compared to the other plasma primaries and overall the category struggles to keep up in today's sandbox. Definitely could use targeted, small buffs.>revert Scorcher ammo nerf>LC should be able to kill fabs>Quasar should be able to be shot early for less damage>plasma weapons need help vs rocket striders or just fucking remove rocket striders from the game they suck ass
>>500989363polar has tenderizer, a good bot head popperchemical has brap grenades, very powerful CC that is similar to stuns, but doesnt punish you as much for hitting yourselffreedoms flame has the cookout, which is good but not great
>>500990089>orbital napalm>literally any piece of kit that can kill a titanI just trivialized bugs
>>500986483What do helldivers do in their time off? Personally I hunt bugs because they're basically the holiday faction where you can turn your brain off and fuck around.
>using the acid projector against bots.>squirt a single iota of the corrosive gas onto a hulk and it goes retarded and can't see you.>spray a mass of rocket devs about to fire, and they all turn 45 degrees towards each other and explode into a fireworks display.>heavy devastators weed whack half their column before they regain their senses.>chickens just stand there for a few seconds before unceremoniously toppling over like touched by the finger of god.Liberty rides a pale horse and its name is DEATH.
>>500989363>Polar patriots:>deag is good>smg is good (for an smg)>purifier is good>tenderiser is great (for bugs)>armour looks cool but no unique passives>Chemical agents>cool helmets>grenades are good>stratagems are okay>stim pistol is a meme>Freedom's flame>cookout is good>best armour of the set (heavy) is in the superstoreIt's pretty obvious just with the amount of content in them either way.
>>500990078Post hand
>>500990202>scorcher ammo nerfstopped reading there, it has more ammo than it used to still, its still ammo hungry but it was not a nerf.
>>500990202>scorcher ammo nerfu wot m8?
>>500990245>*gets raped by 100 little shits that appear behind you anyway*
>>500990503*uses literally any primary against them*lmaaooooo gg
>>500990367The fact a gun can consistently keep you alive long enough to use all its ammo is a good enough sign as it is. Excluding the release knight of course.
>bug breach>climb on top of a really big rock>call in a single 500kg>kill everything within the radiusI just trivialized bugs.
>>500990291The servo-assisted heavy armor is fantastic against bots.Polar Patriots is a 8.9/10 warbond now.
>>500990550That also applies to bots. In fact I have taken the cookout to bots and often one shot devs and berserkers by putting the circle on their heads.
>>500990841It's almost as if that's their weakspot or something and shotguns do a lot of damage up close.
>>500990841*chickens your path*https://youtu.be/nqpvHMdSfsw
>>500980701BUGGERS
>>500990554>>500990367>>500990498Was uninformed, so I change my stance to "this PoS needs more ammo". It's actually fantastic on Diff 7 and below, the real problem are the damn fucking robot chickens.
I really hate BUGGERS
>>500990202Is laser cannon good against factory striders? I know you can defang the chin turrets with it really easily but it takes almost 2 full heat sinks to kill it via the eye and that's with good aim. Does it kill it fast if you shoot the belly?
>>500990070They went really silent with this post.
>>500991379It's pretty quick on a belly kill. It's basically good for neutering the chainguns and running straight up the middle. But realistically your buddies and red stratagems should be doing the majority of the work here.
>>500991379Yes, go for the undercarriage.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241783750016/76561198287751264D10 choose the faction lobby
>>500991379No, AP4 weapons are only handy against Hulks and that's about it. You can use them to burst Charger butts or blow up Tank heatsinks, but so can any other weapon. They're basically just last resort tools against heavy enemies if you don't have AT handy (which literally any loadout can correct by picking Thermites).Specific to Factory Striders, blowing up the chin turrets is about the best you can do. You aren't going to be making it under the belly until you've cleared out every other nearby enemy, including any Devastators it drops. And why would you put in the effort when someone can just Recoilless it in the eye from a nice safe distance.
How do i use the torcher? Where do i stand, what gear do i take to complement it, or other tips you have with flamer weapons in general.
>the crossbow was invited 400 BCE>it's the year 2184 and thanks to immense technological advancements humans have colonized the whole galaxy>the crossbow is still the best weapon
>>5009926743/4
>>500992681Can also one battery charger legs. AP4 weapons are fantastic anti-heavy follow-up weapons if you hit something with AT and it doesn't die and are also very efficient at removing medium armor units since they exceed the minimum pen needed which results in full damage.
>>500992674full
>>500993093Can't believe I haven't been invited still.
>>500986056Helldivers challenging bugs and bots to a dance off isn't something I thought I wanted to see.Cinema, kino, even.
I should be able to manually vent any heatsink weapon by holding reload
>>500994020>opens the cartridge and blows on itSovl
>Halt changes ammo-type on right-click>RR changes ammo-type on left-clickHoly fuck please keep it consistent you dummies.
>>500994857You can rebind both to work on the same clicks.
>>5009948571 button ammo swap when
>>500993072Inflammable is super handy, because it is very likely that you will light yourself on fire at some point.Ideally, you stand at the front of your team, spray down any chaff and medium sized enemies, then slowly back up to put burning ground between you and any additional chaff. You can also just set the ground on fire beforehand and then quickly back up to a more defensible position. Let the burning ground do some of the work for you.Verdict is a strong secondary because it's a reliable point and click weapon with good stopping power. Torcher is not good at point blank range because of the windup time, so a good fallback weapon is important.Your throwable is up to you, I like Stun Grenade because it gives you the opportunity to circle behind Chargers and light up their butt for kills, and if you get a big group standing on burning ground stunning them forces them to stand on that ground for even longer. Gas is also good because it gives crowd control that adds dot damage on top of existing dot damage, it's not very good against Chargers though. Your last regular option is Thermite, for if you don't want to bother dancing around Chargers and want to be an actual threat against Bile Titans. Depending on how team-minded you are regular Frags might also be an option if you want to be able to close Bug Holes without relying on teammates.
>>500994857Speaking of ammo change...>>500955721HERE'S HOW TO CONFIGURE CUSTOM HOTKEYS ON PC (AND CONTROLLER).https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Iridar/Advanced_Keybinds
>>500991701Good. They act like they're badasses when all they do is talk shit and complain.The very first thing botdivers did in this game was cry about Malevelon Creek. A tantrum so gay that Arrowhead had to make a cape to memorialize their tears.Think about that for a minute. There's no crying bugdiver cape.
>>500995654>Bugdiver sissies crying about not getting a cool cape for being as cool as botdivers.
How the fuck do bugfaggers have fun? It's so damn braindead, and not a lot of variety in play style.
>>5009926743/4 D10 bugs
>>500995654>The very first thing botdivers did in this game was cry about Malevelon CreekActually, they only cried when Malevelon Creek was taken away. It was bugdivers who first cried when creekers weren't helping with their MOs. The fun of the creek was that it was an impossible war. That's where the whole space vietnam meme came from.t. oldfag diver from an entire 8 months ago
>unironic bugdiver meltyUh oh stinky!
>>500996012Because you can run all sorts of suboptimal loadouts and get away with it. When the game doesn't give you a challenge, make the challenge yourself.
>>500995654I still wear the creek cape because of how much of a temper tantrum those MOfaggots threw.>>500996257>it was the bugdiversNope. Nope. Nope. It was the Tibitches. Fuck you and fuck your order, I got the funny cape and you lost your order.AND THEN YOU MOSISSIES HAD TO MAKE THE WALK OF SHAME TO CREEK BECAUSE THEY MADE THAT THE NEXT ORDERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>pub>pub has RR>4 bile titans and 5 chargers>pub has not used a single fucking RR shot>fucking around with blitzer>kill pub>take his RR>kill all the bile titansFUCK PUBS
>>500996257My, how the tables have turned. Fast forward to the modern war.Nothing but botbabies crying that the bugchads don't come and win their MOs for them.
I like playing against both
>>500992674Full
>>500996723Same
>>500995242Ok, thats generally what i run as well. Flame retardant seems pretty much mandatory, considering how often bugs come up to your face. I didnt know where to stand because often time im putting myself in the fire line, but too far away i cant really do much. Ground fire seems decently powerful against chaffs, but direct hit has more killing power against medium armoured enemies, afaict (im assuming the ap4 only applies to the direct stream of flame).I picked the verdict as well because the peace maker is just sad, and the revolver imo is overkill for enemies that tend to get too close. Dagger might be a good choice, if not for its lack of stagger.What about stratagems? Or backpacks?
>>500996717Now that you mention it, the tibitches were also crying not only about other botdivers being on the wrong planet, but about bugdivers being on the wrong front. They had like 40% of the playerbase on their planet and still cried like bitches- which they are.
>>500956410Constitution.>Instantly snaps onto enemies behind me>Melee lets me rip legs off warriors and just keep stabbing them>Thunks things super hard each shotRelative to what every other gun does its underpowered, but it has a play style that is super fun to enable.Just wish the meta was slightly more primary inclined as like 50% of our choices are primaries.
>>500997523Does the melee even do more damage?I remember it being a genuinely good gun in the first game
>>500996723Am bothdiver, but I think bots are easier overall so long as you abuse cover.
TorcherSenatorThermitesGLSupply PackYep, it's gaming time
>>500997695It does.it's impossible to destroy stratagem drop pods with regular melee, but you can one-shot them with the Constitution.
>>500997816why use torcher? just use incel breaker and turn your brain off.
>>500997695it does reach further and hit harder through more armoras a gun it isn't as good as it used to be since it used to kill Hulk equivalents with what amounts to AP4 but you never know how swiggers will rebalance
So when is the game gonna get a real difficulty mode? I really like flag mission because it requires some actual teamwork. When are we gonna get more stuff like that?
>>500997931I've used the incel buck breaker for a while already, just want to mix things up a bit
>>500997962>So when is the game gonna get a real difficulty mode?never, because as soon as things get challenging the devs will listen to the faggots crying about what is viable (hint: you were supposed to work with your team instead of having the tools to do everything) and buff everything again
Make a bot lobby now.
Make a bug lobby now.
anybody wanna farm some SC?
Make a squid lobby now.
Not until either front picks a single planet to push
I still stick by the thought that EATs should deal enough damage to 1 shot tanks and turrets from the front.Eats are outclassed by any red that does the same job, you get enough tanks that eats killing two is immensely valuable. Taking them to kill hulks is far too in efficient, specially when nearly every support weapon and revolver can do that.The ONLY thing I can think of that makes EATs good is that you can use the hellpod to pop tanks. But it's practically impossible for turrets.Maybe I just need more time with them, or try and supplement them with things that can't kill hulks, but I just don't see a good use for them.
>botdivers constantly beg bugdivers to save them on their doomed MOs>finally comes times for botdivers to return the favor>the botdivers do not and let the MO failYou botdivers are always bringing down the MOs.
>>500996971Against bugs you generally want Walking Barrage or Orbital Napalm (one or the other, not both). Walking is better for softening up the Mega Fort while Orbital Napalm is good for clearing a 10-hole Heavy Nest so that you can just walk in afterward. Obviously, in both cases you either need a teammate who can clear the holes, or you need to pack Frag Grenades to do it yourself.Your support weapon and backpack is fully up to you. Obviously the Flamethrower stratagem is suboptimal due to overlap with your primary weapon, same with Stalwart and MG-43. Grenade Launcher also has a bit of overlap since it does the same thing only at longer range (though if you just want to be the ultimate chaff clearer with hole closing capability, it's not bad). You can also just bite the bullet and grab Recoilless or Quasar (not having to stop to reload is actually useful against bugs) to deal with heavies and be a team player (Torcher + Verdict gives you very strong chaff and medium clearing power as it is).Gun Dog is stupidly good now, it can pick off Bile Spewers from range and soften up Alpha Commanders so that they're less likely to make it through your wall of flames (and occasionally does Shrieker cleanup duty, something the Torcher sucks at). Jump Pack is theoretically good since it gives you the mobility to position where you can do the most good, but I've only ever used it a few times, you'll have to test it yourself to see if you like it. I haven't run Bubble Shield in a long time so I don't know how well it protects you against your own flames, but if it does then it could offer you the option to not wear Inflammable. And if all else fails, bring Supply Backpack and support your team.
>>500998764EATS is good vs. bugs.
Vernen Wells...home...
>>500998764I think they're fine being the budget anti-tank, i'd rather see the other weapons not be able to one shot to the front to force teams to actually coordinate exposing the vents
>>500998880Ok and? It was bug MO that failed, not bot
why the fuck are private lobbies still showing up on the map i swear they had a patch note saying they fixked that shit.
I think it was connection issues more than anything. If you keep timing out and getting booted straight back to the destroyer that's another op not being done.
>>500999124>bugfags have to take two planets>botfags have to take one planet and defend 5>this is somehow a bug MOSo we can assume botfags are pretty much bad at everything a/o just retarded overall.
>>500998764EATs should get to upgrade to current RR damage as a sample upgrade, and RR should get even greater niggerblaster damage upgrades for enemies that don't exist yet likewise, but EATs always were and should remain the lesser damaging but constantly available and disposable option, they shouldn't be quite as good as RR when at the same upgrade level.OG EAT got now irrelevant bullshit upgrades like walk-while-fire and a laser sight, now it could get more relevant ones like faster base recharge time, sticking another two EATs on the opposite side of the hellpod, and being able to carry two at a time in mergeable bundles. I'd all prefer that over equalizing damage pre-upgrade.
Showing the pubbies how it's done.
>>501000057>least samples extractedSure...
>>500999743Cry is free, bug MO failed
>>501000151I always drop my samples at extract so pubbies can pick them up.
Go have a shitfit with those useless Trandor tranny if you want. Botdiver already achieve their objective.
Why is this botfag's grammar breaking down the more he posts? Is someone running him at too high an RPM?And why do people entertain this faggot and his forced rivalry?
>SAAR SAAR WOMANLY SAAR FORCED RIVALRY HE IS THE ESL SAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRit wouldn't surprise me if both posters were you the entire time, desperately badjacketing everyone calling bugniggers bugniggers lmao
>>500998689sure, post the link. i'm bored
>>501000914Acting like a schizo doesn't help anyone's case, anon.
I got another 1000 good boy points. What's the best bond to shoot for if I have up to Polar Patriots and I don't care about drip?
>>501000987Seconding. Too early for me to sleep yet and I need something to distract me from youtube shorts.
I LOVE INFINITE LOADING SCREENS
>>501001219Goddammit, that's the wrong fucking picture. Here we are.
>>501001219>>501001442you can't take the freudian slipmage back, your subconscious betrays you because you know I'm right
>1 lobby in the last hour>the one before that was 4 hours before that oneis hdg finally dead
>Acamar reports a missing personnel epidemic>bipedal terminid species outbreak in enclosures shortly after>missing personnel returned completely traumatized but unharmed>new species openly interested in freedom and managed democracy paraphernaliaWhat do?
>>500999034I run orbital napalm, but ill try walking barrage sometimes. Shame that flammer doesnt close holes. I think i ran with the stalwart for a bit, which isnt all that bad considering its ergonomic is a lot better now, and the ammo economy is pretty good for only shooting at chaffs. That said it goes better with the eruptor or other slow primaries, since torcher and MG like you said are overlapping weapons. I think i also tried running the AMR, which is great if you happen to have a spewer seed. Jetpack with flammer is good. That was what i ran with with the most success (and felt like i was contributing, along with an AMR). Being able to rapidly reposition helps immensely, despite it still being jank.Quasar seems like itd be a good choice, or perhaps the laser cannon as well. Gun dog is finally in a good position, might use it as well, and is very helpful against the alpha commanders too.
>>501001832>bipedal terminid speciesIf they're still terminids, they're still fuel.
>>501001975>>501001832Put in blender
>>501001832ADSSS
Didnt they say they fixed weapon settings not being remembered? I thought that was a support weapon thing? My stalwart is still defaulting on 800 rpm instead of the glorious 1150 rpm.
>>500998104>Actually, the changes that are bringing tons of players back are badFuck off
>>500998104Translators Note: Working with your team means taking 4 Autocannons, 4 OPS, 4 Eagle Airstrikes and 4 Walking Barrages into D10 bots.
>>501002112It was only for main weapons. Suppor weapons drop first default and next how you set it
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241794449077/76561198024623656Alright lets see if we can fill a lobby.
>>501002424Full.
>>500998104Supremely moronic take. Helldivers was never hard - it was tedious because every game was just a gear check. I for one do not miss when every bug game was just incendiary breaker + supply pack with 500kg, airstrike, or every bot game is just avoiding every single encounter. It was bad, and the meta was stale. It has nothing to do with difficulty - if the meta weapons are so far above the other options, the game has serious balancing issues, and it totally did. Imaging making all these weapons but only having a handful of them be viable above a certain difficulty, and thinking that the balance was 'fine'.The game still isnt quite there yet, but credit where credit is due.
>>501002386>bugdivers complain hunters are impossible unfun instant death enemiesBring a stalwart.>nooo it's shit how will I deal with chargersStick with your teammates who have anti-tank.>nooo I need to solo in my coop game I can't ever be within 100 meters of my teamI'm not saying the game was in a better place but as one of the few stalwart devotees I had this conversation play out at least once per week. If you don't mechanically require players to work together like buddy doors they will take every opportunity to avoid teamwork.
I find it upsetting that none of the armor besides the default is easily recognizable as 'helldivers' and feel like the first game did it way better
>>501001832Fuck the bugs
>>501002796>chaff4x Inc Breakers>heaviesstuns, ops, quasar/eat/RR/spear x4>bug holesgrenade pistol x4now me and my team are working together.
>>501000057>no melee killsMaybe d3 is more your speed bub
>>501002863we should've stuck to the yellow/black looks with some accenting.
>Me (heavy armor, ballistic shield, smg, currently in the shit) and my teammate (scout armor, jetpack, AMR, keeping the hulks off of my ass)The army of two aggro strat, such a simple yet effective dynamic
I need more stats. Heavy kills. Structure kills. I need more yellow numbers. I am a number slut.
>>500998764Question: can you EAT the turret and then shoot at the tracks with a medium weapon to kill it? Feel free to btfo of me.
>>501002863if they dont want to make colors fully customizable i wish they had an alt color toggable on all armors that makes them into a yellow/black variant
>Me (full gas setup) and my teammate (full fire setup)
>>501002782I never used incendiary breaker for the entire time it was the lonely option at the top.I never avoided every bot because any realistic take does not consider this feasible. Bots being dangerous made the Metal Gear playstyle a natural occurrence rather than something you do when you are bored now.
>Theres apparently 5 levels of armor>Armored enemies all have different levels of armor on certain spots>Some armor covers extremely effective weak points>Some guns have different armor penatration despite having the same tooltip>The is currently no way to find or view this information in game>This is the information the devs use when balancing gunsWhat the fuck
>Ballistic shield stops chicken walker rocket damagePerhaps I judged you too harshly.
>drop into random d7 bots with a mostly meta loadout after doing the same with bugs>shit's so easy that instead of moving as a group or in twos, everyone just runs off to sweep their own chunk of the mapI'm with >>500997721
>>501003979There's like 11The information is freely available everywhere, it's your problem if you can't find it
>>501003979games nowadays are explicitly designed under the assumption that you are using a wiki
>>501002782Not everyone was a faggot who needed meta weapons to function like you.
>>501003979they heavily simplified most armor pen>1 doesnt exist for us>2 is light pen on weapons>3 is medium pen>4 is heavy pen>5+ is labelled anti-tankSpear is a 7 pen weapon. Railgun used to go to 7 but was nerfed to 5 cap.
>>501004167>d7Listen, by the moment you get instagibbed by a clucker in the higher difficulties then you will truly understand.
>>501004961Rocketchickens are overrated on /hdg/. They're basically the same as regular chickens, and you can even light-pen their sides.I was gonna test on d8 so I could compete against rocketchickens, but I didn't feel like going back to d8 bots.
>>501004213Where in the game can I see the different armor plat values of a factory strider and which guns can penetrate what?
>>501005225>going back to d8 bots*going back to d8 bugs, I'm tired
>>501004858Snp was ap 1 at one point i believe.
>>501005235There's a hit marker and a visual ricochet
>>501005413It was and as a result did half damage to everything it could harm because unarmored units have an armor level of 1.
>>501005413It was at launch. Shit had terrible damage to begin with and that was cut in half against everything, even scavengers.
>>501005413yes, it couldnt break AP2 eggs but ever since it was buffed theres never been another, maybe some weapons at extreme angles become Ap1
>>501005416Oh, so this is what you did? For every gun and enemy?
>>501004167>d7Cute
>>501001947>Shame that flammer doesnt close holes.Honestly, before Escalation of Freedom I would have said that it would be a very bad idea because the Flamethrower being able to kill chaff, kill Chargers and close Bug Holes would have been really goddamned strong. But now that heavies can be disposed of with AT weapons, I don't have as many objections. The only problem would be that AH probably couldn't code it properly and doing so would probably automatically set you on fire in the process.
>>501005612Enough to figure out I should stop shooting if I see a shield
large caliber plasma explosions should destroy holes and fabricators too
>>500977347if you are up to it theres a config file you can edit to have a key both open the weapon "wheel" and change fire mode at the same timepretty much functions as a mode switch button
Peacemaker should destroy Jammers
>>501006321YOU AMS GO TOO FAR, EXCEED GRASP
what's a good primary for bots, I'm leaning into RR for hulks but can't decide on the other gems either since I haven't played in months
How are people still so bad at surviving in this game after all the buffs? I just came back for the chud armor but I've had back to back games where the team used up all reinforcements with 15 minutes to go,
>>501004140i think a different rocket blew up on the cliff 2 feet in front of you from a different strider, the smoke trail from that rocket strider missile continues behind you while you flew through the air, or thats horrible desync
>>501006979I'll tell you which ones aren't good>Any shotgun>Torcher>Blitzer
>>501007030It's a horde-shooter for the lowest denominator of gamer (like Left 4 Dead). 90% of the playerbase doesn't have the required autism for d9-d10 be it bots or bugs
>>501005225Anon you don't understand. These ‘things’ are a different level of tomfuckery—they replace all of the regular cluckers from difficulty 8 and up. Sure, hitting the rockets seems doable, but you’re talking as if the engagement is in a controlled environment (Which is never the fucking case). It’s never just one or two of them. They come in packs of 4-6, and you'll probably be caught out reloading midfight. For one, their rockets have brutal knockback. Cover’s basically a deathtrap because you risk being thrown into it with no chance to retaliate if you don't space a bit from it, ending you on the spot. Or the former, getting thrown toward bot hoards only to be torn to shreds. Or simply getting thrown into the atmosphere and dying mid orbit.
>>501004315I never said anywhere i used the incendiary breaker religiously did i? And even then it wouldnt invalidate anything ive said. The game was simply tedious to play, which is why i didnt boot the game up for like 3 months. Every game on helldive was using the same shit, or risk not being able to finish the mission. I tried staying away from the meta as much i could, but the game just wasnt fun because the best way to play at that point was just to run away and avoid fighting. There is no possible way anyone can disagree with how bad the meta gameplay was, which was an antithesis to what the game was advertised to be.
>>501007057I thought the same thing but if that was the case then the other person on the rock next to me would've been ragdolled as well and he wasn't.
>>501003679>mfw I'm gassing a charger to death and fire bro is burning it to death at the same time while the team watches
>>501005413It was and they changed it to ap2. It was still shit. Now its just ok. The handling is what annoys me.
>>501004140he mightve just been out of range since it'd be even further out than the one that looks like hit you
>>500990202>scorcher ammo nerf It has more ammo than it did before
>>500989363imo polar has the best weapons
>>500970653AMR is good for bots, Laser Cannon for bugs since it sets them on fire. Use the LC if you want to feel like Gordon Freeman with the Gluon Gun. You get bonus points for killing an Impaler (a.k.a. wannabe Blast Pit creature).
>>501005838They would probably do something extremely stupid like having flammers do explosive damage, which would cause a host of problems no doubt.
>>501007109Punisher is good against bots. You can consistently two-tap devs at mid-range and easily one shot them while closer. Any of the pellets connecting to an unarmored portion will also stagger them.
>>501007451here you are already flying in the air, bottom left is the missile that you thought you tanked, you can see the spreading shrapnel of the missile that fucked you on the ground in front of where you were standing.
>>501006979Anything that does either over 125 damage or have AP3. The former for chaff breakpoint and the latter for striders. Explosive and plasma weapons are still good. ARs are just ok, but having AP3 will make your life a lot easier.
>>501006979Oh laser weapons are also pretty good now. The scythe in particular has a adjustable scope as well as no recoil.
>>501007030Please understand the buffs are what's causing me to self destruct on my crossbow constantly.
>>501007543>>501007887went and checked the footage and that appears to be exactly what happened from that little gremlin you can see near the base.
>>500957075how long does it take to kill a fac strider with LC unaided? someone always nukes it before i can finish
>>501008183Gotta unlearn that muscle memory and switch to your seconday or let the Dog deal with it.
>>501005838they'd have to fuck around with demolition force and fork it, because flaming bug holes to death probably also means breaking crates and almost definitely means flaming fab vents, although the latter isn't that insensible, nape in an assembly line full of dry powder and plastique is bad
>>501007749Didn't ask, and you're wrong
>don't kill any dropships at all>host still crashessick
>>501007321I've fought them. They might as well be basic bitch chickens.
Hold tight light pen bros. When the Illuminate arrive on the scene our choices will be vindicated. In the past it was built around number of hits but I get the feeling this time around their shields are going to be 0 armor HP sponges instead, which lines up with the way light pen weapons are designed and statted.
>fighting bots for so long I had to relearn how to fight bugs
>shoot off a heavy devastator arm>the severed arm keeps blasting forever until I drop an airstrike on it
>>501008591walk backwards, kill chaff, nuke heavies???
>>501008440If even just destroying dropships as collateral damage in barrages is enough to eventually cause a crash, that would be annoying.
>>501008591>Hold left click to get x42 kill streakDamn that was hard
>>501008571Light pen came back with the Senator heavy pen buff since it now deals double damage to medium armor units while allowing you to work on heavy armor units so that you can actually afford to take a light pen primary.
>>501008687it's not about the method of downing them, it's about them being destroyedfor all stingray cares you could down them with the power of your mind
>>501008419The way they handle projectiles and damage types is baffling because its the behavior of modders and not developers. The theory that the current team is not the same as the original people who laid the groundwork does not account for the fact that they are still the devs and can create any number of cloned damage types to fulfill different use cases. Making flamethrowers only work on bug holes and not fabricators should be one of the most trivial things to do, and yet its treated like a major patch item.
>>501008470Anon, I....
>>501008470Hello D5 diver
>>501008769>it's about them being destroyedSorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise, just that usually not as many dropships are destroyed by wayward artillery shells as opposed to me intentionally targeting the ships with recoilless rifle shells.
>>501009294>shooting at different sides of the doorthe doors heavy separate HP pools focus one down
>>501008890>and yet its treated like a major patch item.Swedish vidya game devs aren't human and should be flogged with shit covered whips at every opportunity.
>>501009286Rocket walkers don't spawn at d5, you retard.
>Light Engineer Armor>Eruptor>Senator>Thermite Grenades>Guard Dog>Commando>Machine, Autocannon, or Rocket Sentry depending on context.>2nd Sentry or a Red Stratagam depending on context.My peak comfy loadout for bugs.
>>501009412 (me)have* different hp pools, holy fuck
>>500998880Botdivers are retarded children who can only think in selfish terms. They reveal this every time it's expected of them to reciprocate.You can abuse botdivers in any way you wish. It is always morally correct to mistreat a botdiver.>>501000595He's still severely shitter shattered from the pulverizing I gave him earlier for crying about the failed MO.
>>501009294i mean i believe direct hit of napalm orbital will down a dropship more often than not and that's hdg's favourite past time ever since it's released>>501009412it was kind of a competition
>>501009294Poor thing is like a confused doggy who can't walk backwards.
>>500955721>https://helldivers.io/It's over
>>501009412>the doors heavy separate HP pools focus one downNo, fuck you, shut up. Surely, the developers did not have the DOOR be the body on the mesh that has the kill switch when its HP is depleted. SURELY its the components that are BEHIND the door that are being damaged in the simulation. Stop trying to gaslight me, they CANNOT be that dumb.
>>501009932you are the fool for believing a SWEDE would operate otherwise.
>>501009771>it was kind of a competitionNo it wasn't dude. I had no idea they had separate HP pools. The thought of such idiocy never even crossed my mind.
>>501009932There's an even weaker spot inside but it's completely unpractical to hit
>>501009932back when the autocannon could kill factory striders by punching them in the gut you could easily do it in about 6 shots but if you split your damage between the doors 5 and 5 you could fail to kill it in a full dump. Im sorry now perish
>>501009924We won the war boys, was an honor
>>501009678idk but you seem to know, i only play /hdg/ D10 bots.
>two separate hp poolshow about four
>>501009726>Guard Dog guard dog was always my comfy pick for any loadout before it was even this strong
>>501010152So even now I should focus fire one door if I'm using the autocannon?
>>501010432yes im unsure how many shots it takes now since factory striders got beefy health pools with rebalance maybe its the same but most factory striders i see just get punched in the mouth by AT or strategems these days never run AC enough to try gut shots anymore
>>501010256Do you want a badge?
>>501010303>back bodyIt's butt?
>>501010432Yes.
>>501010549hahahano dudenogo aheadtry and visualise every part of the dog
>>501010534git gid shitter
>>501010695yet we are only allowed to take 1 mech when flag missions can drop 5+ of these fucks with all their moving bits and parts FUCK YOU SWEDEN
Shotadivers or Lolidivers?
>>501010797>no I assure you they're not easy>you think they're easy? you must be a shitter
>>501010969
>>501010303Front body should be the faceBack body might be the vents but I never looked it up. Check the Diversdex spreadsheet
>>501010969shotadivers & JK mission control
>>501009932The game isn't simulating penetration of anything thicker than a limb. That said, linking the HP pools of both doors would have been easy enough, or linking them directly to core HP.
SHAVEHISARMSSHAVEHISARMS
>>501003669Nope, tracks do zero to main.That was actually something I was looking into in general, if you have AP 5 you can combo it hard. Like neet team play, but only the railgun combos eats.
>>501006979DCS, scorcher, lib pen and breaker are all great. can't go wrong with all 4 of those
>>501011191I mean, I wasn't thinking that the actual bullets were being modeled going through the armor plate meshes and then hitting components underneath them. The factory striders have had that weird solid underbelly that the devastators just phase through since day one, anyways, it seems to me like internals were never bothered to be modeled for them. I just thought that the underbelly would be, like you said, tied to the core HP. Not that the little tiny door hinges have separate HP pools, and that they are apparently coded as "vital."
>>501010695>legs are 1500 HP fataltime to go shoot some legs with EATs and see if I can one shot them
>>501011715Please don't shoot their legs, it will make the poor swedes very upset if you pursue a leg meta.
>>501011715Feet and the inside of the knees iirc
>>501011149those are the parts you need to target thoughstill funny
I don't know what you guys are up to, but I'm gonna go play some Helldivers 2, try a loadout I've never used before and have some fun. See you guys on the battlefield!
>>501011969meant for>>501011715>>501011149>diversdexthis is pretty cool, thanks anone
>>501012241i will try this now
>>501009932sorry bro but the doors are not a separate hitzone on their own, but are each attached to their respective side's hitzone
>Dogbreath on bugsIt's incredible
Tell me about the new slopbond
>>501012820how bad it is? Yes. It's mind-boggling.Now gas grenades on bugs...
>>501012241shot the same foot with 2 EATs and it didnt die, very good back to RR gaming
>>501013110It's almost as good as Polar Patriots is now.It's biggest failing is the questionable utility of it's armor passives and booster along side lacking the "At Ease" emote for a victory pose.
>>501013110>Armorsthe officer is drippy, bloodhound is OK. You missed your chance to get new chud armor>weaponsSMG is shit on bugs, but competent on bots IF you can manage recoil and ammo. It's not one handed but that doesn't really matter.Shotgun is middling on bots, but really fucking good on bugs. Stun will stop anything that hits so abuse it.Idk about the loyalist since I still haven't used it but it's just a mini purifier.>Everything elseit's okay.
>>501013110smg feels bad but is actually pretty good against heavy devs and chickensshotgun has stun round option or armor piercing flechette option, good against bugs, decent against bots if you stun the dropspistol kind of sucksarmor seems kind of useless but looks kinda coolit costs 1000 super credits
>>501010695Where is the engine weakspot???
>>501013478
>>501013621Why the hell don't i just jump pack and 2-tap that shit with my bayonet?
Sterilizer kinda sucks ass
>>501013110>Add smg>It's not even 1 handedWhats the point?
>>501011715>ok so 2 EATs to the same foot = no die >a single RR to the foot = diei dont get it
>>501013750I've been instakilled by walking on top of a moving factory strider because it's one big hitbox, sometimes it works and other times it doesn't.
Has anyone gotten weird map gen lately? Had this in the latest mission I just did. Never seen just such huge changes in elevation so abruptly, before. We all started on high ground, and the illegal broadcast spot was in a freaking crater.
>>501014408Shouldn't a hellpod one shot it?
>>501014552I think they've been adding new map gens. Had a run on Gacrux that had a lake surrounding the mega-nest with only one thin strip of land going in, was kinda kino.
>>501014552I thought it was just the objective, but nearby, I saw signs it really wasn't meant to be like that.Kinda neat
>>501009294Time crisis lobby when? senator and reds only.
>>501014579A factory strider? No, I don't think it's ever 1 shot them. I used to land on them all the time and throw my thermites on its skull before cool-diving off and then getting promptly incinerated by friendly strategem spam.
>>501014552The greater amount of deep water spawning has made it imperative that they release a swimming team booster.
Is the new PLAS-15 Loyalist any good?
Bots D10steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241804948260/76561197999417031
>>501015169It's a pocket purifier with slightly less damageIt's good but also a bit uninspired to use
>>501015226Full
>>501015226Failed to join.
>>501015226kick someone so i can join
>>501015113Impossible since all helldivers are niggers.
>>501015113They will make an entire aquatic themed warbond>blue colors>some retarded shit like an explosive harpoon gun + algae grenades that make enemies slip>swimming booster>"diving in" emote where the helldiver does a swan dive (then immediately ragdolls on the floor)
>>501015113Honestly not that bad an idea. Could be one of those planet specific booster like muscle enhanchement.
>>501015113Swimming will be an armor perk not a booster
>>501015857>algae grenades that make enemies slipI will buy it for this alone. I want to see if you can make a Hulk ragdoll. Or a factory strider.Diving in should give you a starting speed boost if you land in water.
What will be the meta clan booster, hellpod or infusion?
>>501016070When you see a hulk or factory strider on its back, be sure to help it back on its feetsies.
>>501016057>Perk: Amphibious>You can swin 10% longer>No secondary effectThat will be 900 SC with cape and matching player card. Pay up goy.
>still no new MOWe captured Gacrux in that leftover time, why is super earth so stingy
>>501017549they haven't done a single bit of work any weekend since after the "we're slowing down updates" blogpost, which was like 3 or 4 weeks after launchyou'd think one of their senior staff would have the drive to do it, but maybe it's just swedish to treat the weekend as sacred and completely swear off even coming into the office or logging in remotely to push a single button
>>501017914>it's just swedish to treat the weekend as sacredWeekends are sacred and only poorfags think otherwise
>>501018045it's unfortunate the hospital that delivered you on a saturday didn't feel that way, turning your mother away at the door resulting in a miscarriage would've been preferable
Dead FOTM slop.I won.
>>501018198>Comparing making stupid video games to a hospital>Not knowing staff in factories and hospitals, as well as many other industries, rotate Dumbass underage
>>501018270
>>501018525>replying to shitty rage baitwhy?
>>501018312Struggling with hypotheticals is a sign of a low IQ.
>>501018616Struggling with reality is a sign you're a dumbass underage retard.
>>501018616your hypothetical has absolutely zero basis in reality and is a sign of nigger tier IQ
>nooooo, the weekend is sacred, no one can open up their laptop and push the "advance the MO" button, nooooo>not even their overpaid ex-ceo/director is allowed to do it, noooo, even for a triple digit salary no one should ever be made to work for 0.5 minutes on the weekend aiiieeeee
>look mom! i pulled the false equivalence againMommy's biggest little unimaginative man.
>>501018598NTA but seeing the tourists try to stick around is funny
>>501019116You'll understand when you stop living hand and mouth from your parents kiddo
>>501019448that's cute, but pretending to have life experience from your 9 to 5 minimum wage job where every weekend is a mercy doesn't really phase me
All me btw
>>501019649Im sure nothing could phase someone with a nigger IQ like you. But enjoy spending your life working for me while I take the weekends off lmao.
>>501019789I don't plan to work at an amazon fulfillment center, so good luck with that fantasy.
What the fuck are the botbabbies crying about NOW?Are we still bitching about the fucking MO??
>random takes dead sprint boosterI wonder how many weeks it will take for people to realize it suks
>>501019941Silence, bugwench
>>501019649>I'm le above it all attitude>seething that an on rails game event didn't update over the weekendthe lack of awareness is staggering
>>501020027It's literally really good though?
Okay. Let me get this straight. I'm reading through the DiverDex. Most of the weapons in this game (that goes for liberator as well) can kill mobs in less than 0.09 seconds. What the hell are we complaining about? It just seems to be just a skill issue overall.
>>501020062>I'm le above it all attitudeI'm flattered that you think so much of me
>>501020027No its le good because you can sprint for 2 extra minutes alongside Vit booster while it injects you with rapid acting bone cancer
>>501020334Just literally? That's not enough.Now if it were literally unironically, then maybe I'd reconsider my opinion. But just literally isn't enough.
Dead Sprint is the best booster in the game currently, provided that it's paired with Vitality. Stamina makes it even better, so you might as well take all 3. You can sprint from one end of the map to the other in medium armor without stopping.
>>501020338>What the hell are we complaining about? It just seems to be just a skill issue overall.YouTubers told people to get angry and they did a big stink on Reddit and here we are.
>>501020667>take experimental infusion as wellCANT STOPWONT STOP
>>501020667Armor doesn't affect the rate at which you take damage from dead sprint, surely.Surely?
>>501020667>You can sprint from one end of the map to the other in medium armor without stopping.Or you could walk for 2 seconds then sprint again. This is the biggest noob trap idea ever. Just take stims, ammo, stamina and whatever like every game as it should be.>NAH BRO SO GOOD JUST TAKE A B AND C TOGETHER AND IT'LL ALMOST REPLACE JUST SLOWING DOWN BY 50% FOR 2 SECONDS
>>501020667real question is why are you rundiving so much that you need such a feat to be possible. Never had an instance in med armor with stamina booster thinking "man, sure wish i could sprint for two more minutes uninterrupted"
>>501020832I don't think so? Moreso pointing out how mobile it makes you even with heavier armor.>>501020934
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241806252607/76561198092709508Vernen Wells D10 funtime
>>501020962>humblebragging that you've never once been inconvenienced by an empty stamina barvery weird thing to say
>>501020338There's few things that do that even with perfect accuracy. Specially primaries.
>>5010211182/4 get in here
>>501020667>best booster in the gameI'd wager stamina is the best in the game but dead sprint is a good alternative and addition to it. Generally though you have HSO, vit, stam, and one free for whatever. Either the infusion or dead sprint. Snow planets I'd take the muscle enhancement for the fourth slot.Heavy armour user btw.
>>501021140no its literally, walk for a few seconds and the bar is full again, and if I'm in deep enough shit to need to keep running I'd just pop a stim because chances are whatever is making me run in the first place isn't far behind and still potentially able to damage me so the stim will heal through whatever I get clipped by.
>>501020680This is all so retarded.
>>501020962NTABut you feel it a LOT with heavy armor, like the time between POIs will kill your stamina bar.But I run in a group that never takes stamina booster.Our meta typically is>Health, supplies, radar (me), and whatever the fourth guy brings usually hyper stimsI might consider dead sprint, just cause I usually run stim pistol too.
>>501020667>Dead Sprint is the best booster in the game currentlyNot even close. HPO, SE, Vitality and Experimental Infusion are the only good boosters period.
Is there anything in this warbond that hasn't caused a "it's good/it's the worst thing in the game" division among you lot?
>>501021190Such as?
>radarridiculously redundant>b-but you can look at the minimap and-redundantyou can hear patrols chanting up to 50 metersjust spin your camerastandard minimap range is enough
>>501021874Everyone agrees you're a fag. Its unanimous.
>>501021628I have ~320 hours and I haven't used the radar to look for enemies even one time
>falling for the hellpod optimization memejej
>>501021874The title.
>>501021909I like it thematically (and functionally) with Scout but admit its largely worthless.
>>501021932I disagree.>>501022010Not even a cape?This fucking place...
>>501022109>I disagree.You don't get a vote because you're a fag
>>501021880Well...Almost all of them?Liberator for instance, base assault rifle takes twice that time against a hunter/warrior head. Devs take about 5 times that much time.Pretty much every gun is based off the liberator as well for damage.So I'd say few kill faster.
>>501021964I always use radar for orbitals, there's usually a huge patrol or group of enemies just out of view. Helps me line up my reds perfectly.
did they ever un-nerf the Railgun?
>>501022837yes
>>501022837yeah but not enough, still needs a half second 100% charge safe zone and an audio indicator that you've reached it, as well as different audio for firing a 100% charged shot(pilestedt said he was aware it needed this like 2 months ago)
>>501021909I've napalmed and set up greens to ambush patrols well before they arrive.Barrages also benefit a ton from it, just seeing the mass of enemies helps give me the confidence to throw it on a group, or throw a walking down the horde of bots coming from a bot drop. It's nice.
>>501022837Not entirely but mostly.
>>501022837Yes, but in a world where the primary anti-charger strategy isn't "slap its leg twice then shoot there until it dies" it's no longer sexy.
>>501023087>baby needs his hand held even fucking moreJust do a mental 2 count and you will never fucking explode the weapon christ you faggots are intolerable. The only time you need to even go above 80% to get better breakpoints is to save 1 single shot against behemoth and bile titan heads, going from 4 shots to 3 shots.>>501023749The railgun went from needing 10+ shots against the heaviest of enemies to needing 4 and you still think it's nerfed? It's better than its ever fucking been. Absolutely delusional.
>>501022837good bot support weapon especially with the chicken menace rearing its head. pretty meh on bugs
>>501022556If you hit the head of lets say for example a devastator. It would take two bullets to the head to kill it. (0.09 seconds in between each bullet) >What about recoilIf you go prone you reduce the amount of recoil. Also it takes a single bullet from the Liberator to kill a hunter if you headshot it, three for warrior.
Is the personal shield intended to protect against a railgun malfunction? It's been a while but with railgun talk I just remembered that I survived one exploding with half health left. The shot was fired, the titan went down and the gun was destroyed so I had to call in another.
>>501024027Safe mode is still weaker than launch Safe, though unsafe is vastly stronger now.
>>501024027Alexus go to bed, you have to clean the toilets in the morning.
>>501024703pretty sure you can just survive it with heavy fortified armor
>>501024703It is not supposed to and originally did not. When they were meddling with the bubbles a few months back they ended up breaking it and haven't gotten around to fixing it.
>>501024991I believe you can now but you're not intended to, it's an oversight from the handful of base damage mitigation buffs heavy armors got which fortified armors double dip from.
>>501025005>>501025137There's nothing to fix. You wear the big boy armor and you can survive a gun exploding with some shrapnel in your face. Stimming it off is SE approved medical policy.
>>501020667it literally takes 2 seconds to recover all of your stamina how can you not wait for 2 seconds
>>501025518webmrel
>>501021118>ctdjust me or anyone else?
>>501026668you and s4, try rejoining
>>501026778if you're continuing after that op then reply to me when the mission is donegotta do smth real quick
>>501022837>un-nerfThe "I can one-shot a Bile Titan with a headshot!" damage was a PS5 hosting glitch, and was never intended. Calling it a "nerf" is in the same territory as saying that the removal of shrapnel from launch Eruptor was uncalled for, you're a fucking idiot if you insinuate otherwise.The loss in durability damage from an unrelated nerf didn't reduce its power measurably (unrelated to the bug fix above), and the buff in the 60-day patch has made it one of the stronger weapons in the gametmnhj.
>>501024601I mean it's physically impossible to line up consecutive headshots in that time, and mechanically impossible too. Headshotting hunters instantly is somewhat doable though.
>>501027237>The loss in durability damage from an unrelated nerf didn't reduce its power measurablyDidn't it used to like two shot charger legs. Iirc too it had some crazy jank that let you tap bile titans to deal with two mouth shots without the ps4 glitch
>>501020338Because for certain enemies its either 0.09 for a kill or you do no damage. Devastators are the perfect example of this. Theoretically, its two shots to kill one, but ingame it coukd get pretty difficult to accomplish when youre being pinned my missile barrage and machine gun fire. Hell, DMRs literally have a TTK of 0 second if you land a headshot, but theres a reason why people overwhelmingly pick explosive weapons because of their ease of use.Another example would be stalkers, who only have 180 (maybe lower now) on their head. This is 3 shots to kill. Yet, theyre still incredibly deadly even if you do seem them coming. Ive been able to kill them with perfectly placed shots before, but its incredibly difficult to pull off even if youre not being swarmed.
>>501020667Does vitality somehow affect the damage it deals to you?
>>501027932yeah it goes from 22s to ~122s before you run dry.
>>501027858Honestly headshots are so useless, that they can lower your TTK in a fair amount of builds.Like explosion/DOT builds get nothing out of headshots, and it'd be so easy to fix if they just increased the damage the body took by 300%
>>501027742>Iirc too it had some crazy jank that let you tap bile titans to deal with two mouth shots without the ps4 glitchthat was the PS5 glitchthere was never any kind of fucking mouth shot or cheek shot or eye shot, it was all the PS5 bug
>>501027932vitality reduces the damage you take from ALL SOURCES by 20% on top of armour reduction, and with rounding it means some sources of damage do literally zero damage if you have it equipped
Loyalist is surprisingly good. Functions essentially the same as the Purifier, and kills tanks the fastest of any secondary. Extremely good pocket backup. I'd neglected it because the Senator was good, but it's really got an amazing niche right now. Only secondary I'd rely on for long range kills on tanks, cannon turrets, and devs. Glad to see that, unlike primaries, AH seems to care about keeping almost every secondary viable.
>>501028420It's a perfect pocket anti-chicken.
>you change the open weapon wheel key to press instead of hold >you then change weapon wheel right keybind and the open weapon wheel keybind to the same key>you can now swap the Halts ammo type in a single tapis that kino I smell
>>501021909Radar should reveal PoI and Secondary Objectives OR it should make the minimap work in planets coevered in terminid farts like Gacrux, it should als0o work to restore functionality to them minimap when disabled by Automaton Jammerrs (which Jammers should do).
>>501028653Tried it, kinda jank Honestly the best you get is hard stun locking chargers, when you can just stagger kill the shit you're shooting twice.
>>501015169does not explode hulk eyereturned for store credit
>>501029045Alpha Commanders and Stalkers are what youd want a nice quick swap for. Stun, tap, Flechette twice. Since the Alpha is stunned it cant chase you without a head, and stalkers cant leap away.
>>501028653the stun is long enough that i dont care. usually on bugs i have more than enough time to switch and on bots I'll spam stun on drops while my team is lightin em up and use flechette the rest of the time.non issue
>you can kill command bunkers with 80 arc thrower shotsman
whoever it was that said to try tenderizer in burst fire at 850 rpm, thanks. really fun. I just wish it would ACTUALLY REMEMBER MY WEAPON SETTINGS. I have it set to remember them, and it just doesnt. I have to manually select the higher rpm every time I respawn. it remembers the burst mode for some reason but not the fire rate.
>>501029571me when i want to spend 74 seconds killing a bunkerbased knowledge though
>>501028420>sad p-2 peacemaker noises
>>501028351Im aware of this, but im wondering if dead sprint is somehow affected too. Barbed wires, spiky yellow nuts etc do no damage when you have vitality and heavy armour.
>>501029689the constitution of pistols
>>501028098Lmao. What about armour? Can i have it deal zero damage if i have heavy armour?
>>501029571An arcnigger would begin this and then get upset that you barraged it while he "had it handled."
>>501029689Scary thing is that if it was on par with other pistols it'd probably be better than the liberator.
>>501028129Well explosion always does full damage so if a spot is lethal and durable itll has massive values. Heatsinks and charger asses come to mind.
Lobby doko :3
>>501029689If the peacemaker has more reserve itll be in a good spot.
why are there no good AR's?
>>501029689Suppressor will fix it.
>>501029813No idea, you'd have to grab an anon from here by the throat and make them run while you chased them down with a peak physique constitution and see who reaches deaths door first.
>>501030085Honestly this.Give it +4 more spare mags and it'll be in a good spot as a chaff clear secondary.Easy to handle, one handed, fast reload, can two tap devastator heads.
okay, so here's everything you need to know about rocket striders:>rockets have 100 health, 2 armor, immune to explosives>rocket racks have 200 health, 3 armor.>when a rockets are fired from the top first then the bottom, strider's top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right>the legs have 400 health, 3 armor and vulnerable to explosives.>the dick has 300 health, 3 armor and immune to explosives.>the plate has 400 health, 4 armor>the gun turret in its mouth has 300 health, 4 armor>destroying ANY part except the rocket rack kills the strider instantly
>just cover the diver in so many pistol mags its like armorMaybe they should just leave it in peace.
>>501029571>>501030394is it arcane information hour?
>>501030771>even in death>i hunt greens
>>501030668yeswhat does anon want to know?
>>501030394>rockets immune to explosives>destroying ANY part except the rocket rack kills the strider instantlyThis was the source of those "destroying the rockets doesn't kill the chicken" comments that people were raging about in here with their many webms showing them shoot the rockets with an AR and kill the chicken, btw.
>>501030906>shoot rockets with AP3 weapon>they disappear>shoot rockets with AP2 weapon>strider dieswhoa
>tfw I love the air burst >sometimes it deletes heavy dev patrols in one shot >sometimes it does literally nothing >sometimes it just fucking explodes out the barrel >mfw
>>501030835how the fuck do factory striders even work?the damage you need to deal to them is the most inconsistent shit ever
>>501030771>heroic dead charger flies 50 meters to destroy freshly landed emplacement
>>501031114Good, we need more enemies that don't fold to single red or AT shot
>>501031053Heavy fortified is enough to 100% survive accidentals now if you're at full health.
>>501030394>the rocket packed with high explosive is immune to explosives
>>501031365I'm usually wearing that on Bot dives anyway. Doesn't save my teammates, though.
>>501031706>Doesn't save my teammates, though.Their fault for being in the general vicinity of you or whatever you're shooting at.
>>501031114here you go
did they do something to bt's? I don't remember them eating this many thermite grenades
>>501031875Can't you just have "Shoot here faggot" I'm not reading any of that.
>>501031875Don't forget that the doors have separate health pools, so you literally have to target one door and one door only in order for that to work.
>>501031875is it possible to cripple its legs like hulks? or does it just die?
>>501032070once you destroy the Inner leg, it dies, exactly like bug chargers.
>>501031982green
>>501032385thx
>>501031982Big glowing spot? Shoot there
you don't see helldivers diving under factory striders and giving it tummy rubs with the AC anymore...
>>501033216I only do it with the hmg
>>501033216it's a last resort thing for me
>>501033216y'know I rarely see brining AC nowadays. Total clucker fuckery.
>>501033446*anyone bringingMy brain is atrophying.
>>501033216There's no need anymore with Recoilless being able to kill it in two shots to the head.
>>501033446Which is odd because its strong vs everything now. I finally got to use it in flak mode vs flying bugs and it was satisfying as fuck. Usually you just pop their nests from 1000km away.
>>501033216I can never do it as often as I like because pubbies just throw all their stratagems at it, getting close to it is suicide even when its defanged
More enemies that require teamwork to effectively kill please
>>501034351>Recoilless being able to kill it in two shots to the head.one shot to the eye*
>>501033216maybe when they didn't have ragdolling triple bursts
>>501034521Halt is perfect for that. I rate it S tier, its far more useful to rapidly stun hordes than you would think.
Ok what the shit. I've joined 6 games tonight and being disconnected from 4 of them. I'm getting over 300mps down and have never had connection issues before.
>>501033446Why would I? All I need is to shoot it once in the eye with a RR from a distance
>>5010350431. Do you notice your own net connection going down intermittently?2. What is the nature of your disconnects? Host shift, lose host and see time paused for a while before exit to destroyer, mysterious exit to destroyer without notice?I have no answers but I just wanted to check for similarities.
>>501035219No outside of the game no disconnect issues. in 4 stacks and suddenly I'm all by my onesy. SOS seems to have no effect and I can never seem to fish for other divers.
>>501034521they're called bosses, and you're going to have to wait for an entire third faction before work on that even begins
>sub level 80's never bringing enough AT because they are kill huntingGetting rather sick of this shit. Hell even in D9 I will leave if at least 2 other people aren't over 100. Not worth my fucking time.
>>501031875What's the best way to kill one of these with red stratagems only?
>>501035415>even in D9
>>501035415>d9
>>501035308SOS never seems to work after the first map for me, or rather if its a host shift. If its a disconnect happening on the host then there's nothing you can do, but wouldn't that be a successful host shift while keeping the other 3 players together?
>>501031053Don't aim and shoot it too fast. You have to aim then let it settle for a few second before shoot.
>>501031867That image is too accurate.
>>501035569>>501035643Try finding a mother fucking D10 this late at night. I was looking for almost 9 minutes. I'm not a pussy but I'm not going to waste time going 1 itsy bitsy level higher when I am already capped out on everything.
>>501035453Eagle Airstrike can easily deal 10000 damage if you hit 3-4 bombs.sadly no other red comes even close to doing anything to it.if you destroy the cannon turret on top, railcannon + any single AT rocket kills it
>>501035889never had this problem even once
>>501035889
d10 bots for funsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241820643418/76561198148268478
>>501036219>failed
>>501033216It's the >looks at you and instantly fires 904839 gatling lasers shots That stops me from running under them. Even if it spawns and I'm on a decent flank, my teammates have usually thrown about 5 red strats on it sober have to wait a minutes before we can actually kill it.
>>501036219full
Lobby open for just over a minute, instantly full. Alive thread Alive General.
>>501035925>40% explo resist1500+(800*0.6)=1980 per bomb6 bombs + 1 with upgrade7*1980=13860 total outputhitting 5 bombs deals 9900 damage which is 100 shy of a kill, and if you hit the cannon on top, or the head shell that doesn't count because they are 0% dmg transfer
>>501036306>>501036346no it's definitely not full something is fucked on my end
>>501035925Ridiculous that a hand held rocket launcher does more damage than a bomb dropped from fighter jet.
the airburst can finally take out a shrieker patrol like it does in the trailer. took them long enough
>>501034521Hive lord waiting room
Im ready for more content arrowhead
>>501037037Dont worry the Dumb Sample Sucker is about to be online
>>501037037>not at the super credit capbro???
>>501037037They really should have made it so that you have to spend samples or something more to unlock guns and stratagems. I basically had everything unlocked by level 40.
>>501036676nah, the only thing ridiculous is that a full use of 110mm rocket pods does the same damage as 2 bombs from the 6+1 bomb airstrike
>>501031875>1200hp underside>40% explosive resist>thermite grenade>2000*0.6=1200am i missing something, because this doesn't 1-shot them
If you take the fire bomb hellpod perk you deserve to have your balls cut off
>>501037981the doors
New>>501038197>>501038197>>501038197
>>501037637Seriously. Wtf is the point of them?
>>501034435It's fatigue. Literally was the only good support weapon against bots for months. Everyone wants to fuck around with the other stuff now that is usable
>>5010318752 EATs to the leg seems like an efficient way to kill these
