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Woe, bombs be upon ye Edition
Previously on /coopg/: >>501550145

>Latest News/Updates:

Darktide: Hotfix #51 (1.5.4)
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4539157321628805552
Darktide Released Slop : https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Commodore%27s_Vestures

Vermintide 2:
Geheimnisnacht event
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/4512135360811161102

Helldivers 2:
Patch 1.001.102
https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___

Wartracker:
https://helldivers.io/
Info:
https://divers.gg

Deep Rock Galactic:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/

Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749

Payday 3:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/

Remnant 2:
The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___

Earth Defense Force 6
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Left 4 Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
The Forever Winter
No More Room in Hell 2

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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>>501714203
Based, that's my kween
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I can't wait to see what fun ways the paid classes added after the PS5 port will get gold toughness and 90% toughness DR :D
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>>501709937
>>501709369
it looks nothing like anything the french used, its an american design
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I like French spike bayonets. They ended up getting used on my favorite rifle.
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if you're bad with the helbore you're bad at darktide

i don't make the rules
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More like Helboring
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>ps5 port done
congrats, fatshark! now you can finally release sister of battle! that is certainly the first thing you will be doing, because anything else would just be ridiculous! haha!
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>>501718181
Say it with me:
Sororitas
NEVER
EVER
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>>501718181
is that why i've been seing so many low level shitters in my aurics?
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>>501718261
Say it with me:
Grail Knight
NEVER
EVER
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>>501718181
I'm afraid that's already covered by zealot cosplay.
New class should be some form of mechanicus reject. Too bad they'll never ever add another class ever....
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>>501718297
It's not out yet, Dec 3 is the dawn of the snoys
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>>501716291
Having 2 melee weapons is retarded
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>>501718297
Nope. The tsunami of PS5 shitters has yet to arrive. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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>>501718368
>brooo there is like 1 paid armor, 1 hair cut, and 1 face tattoo that kind of makes you look like a sister of battle
>this means fatshark will never introduce it as a class despite in game dialogue identical to the ratling dialogue suggesting the team wants one to join
sweetie, I'm gonna need you to stop
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>>501718569
yeah well even if we get a new class it aint going ty be anything grand, some low tier battle servitor at best
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>>501718693
>we are le heckin' rejecterinos, so we can only get dogshit garbage :)
CEASE
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>>501718181
It's already in the game. It's called playing a female Zealot with the Sororitas tattoo and hairstyle.
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>>501718569
Explain how an SoB would play in this game that's distinct enough from Zealot to justify taking up an entire class slot.
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>>501718569
>in game dialogue identical to the ratling dialogue suggesting the team wants one to join
In game dialogue also wants Space Marines to join.
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. But I can't stop you from disappointing yourself.
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>>501719049
>explain how a grail knight would play in this game that's distinct enough from foot knight to justify taking up an entire class slot
don't have to, sweetie
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>>501718964
Kill yourself.

>>501719049
You could give her the power greatsword and meltagun you've been denying Zealot for 2 years, for starters.
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>>501719395
>you've been denying
it's too early for schizo posting
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>>501718964
They'll add it as a fourth keystone for zealot, instead of adding new classes.
New keystones will require talent tree reworks, which will reset talents with little to no warning before the patch drops and no way to recover old builds as usual.
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>>501719395
Explain how an SoB class would distinguish itself from Zealot in gameplay.
You can't, now put on the fucking tattoo and bob cut.
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Someone called my female zealot a "squeaky elf"
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>>501720695
I'm so happy for you, sis
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>>501720651

>>501719370
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>>501718798
that's fatshark doing it not me, and they're the one making the classes
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damn, i though i was done with mission specific shit penances
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>>501721002
well technically they're the ones not making any classes at all but I see your point
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>>501718438
I can't for the life of me figure out who the target audience for this is even supposed to be. The tide games are already so damn fast paced in forcing you to keep your head on a fucking swivel in the higher difficulties, so you're already hamstringing yourself by using a controller, even with 90-180 degree instant turn macros. And that's before factoring in the amount of shooting you do in Darktide.
We've all seen the meme videos of console players aiming like absolute morons, but even best case scenario, the cracked CoD no-scoper is never going to turn around on time to melee the 15 poxwalkers that just spawned behind him.
>this is why blocking is omnidirectional
kek
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huh?
are you supposed to use swift certainty for this? or does sliding count
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>>501721383
You know, if they add gyro aim and a reasonable control scheme, PS5 players could easily compete with PC.
At the very least they would smash Xbox players.
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>>501721383
theres no crossplay for vermintide 2, so their spawns are significantly less, though that could be because consoles are not very powerful since spawns are cpu bound
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>>501721529
I'm never going to touch a controller for anything where mouse controls are objectively and vastly superior (outside of a purely casual setting), but I'm honestly kind of excited for ways to make controllers even remotely competitive.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure nobody except the top 1% is going to even bother trying to optimize their input method to such a degree, so you're still going to get retards that stare at the floor and miss their entire magazine.
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>>501721528
forgot pic
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>Be console shitter
>See sniper
>Aim assist gets caugh on a random poxie head
>Die
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>>501721528
>>501721691
Dunno, I think this and the barrel ones are just never going to be completed. You don't need them, I've got over 5k points.
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>decide to give the forever winter demo a try
>immediately see how the character meta is
>the best character, by an enormous margin, is a nigger
>Black Owned Company™
wow how very surprising
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>>501721672
Yeah, true. A big problem with gyro is that it doesn't have any standardization since so few games support it.
There are videos on youtube with some dude playing Quake 3 with gyro and slapping shit, but it's a custom control scheme. Ought to have somebody reach out and get those controls adapted because clearly it's actually working.
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>Be console shitter
>See nothing because im aiming at the floor
>See aggressive feet
>Panic
>Swing sword aimlessly hitting the shield
>Pull out shotgun
>Shoot floor
>Die
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>>501721528
>>501721691
Veteran with a Stripped Down gun plus Duck and Dive talent to make things easy
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are any pickaxe Mks inherently better for some arcane reason? bout to start my dig dug adventure
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>>501722462
Karsolas for pure heavy attack swinging
Branx for the biggest hits and a decent pushattack, but needs to alternate its heavy attack for hordes which eats into its potential toughness gain.
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>>501722462
it's just preference
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>>501722323
Please someone post the webm, it's so fucking funny
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Exp in vermintide 2 is the same regardless of mission difficulty? What determines how much exp you get?
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>>501724051
No, you get more for higher difficulty and also other things like how many books you finish a run with and how many players are alive in the exit portal
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>>501724179
No, you don't get more exp for higher difficulty currently. They're going to change that though..
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Sweet bleeding Christ is cross play force enabled now?
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>>501724516
why bother ever playing above recruit then?
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>>501724945
...fun?
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>>501724945
Because recruit is too easy, and it's better to jump up in difficulty so you can learn the game and have more fun. But like I said they're going to change it so you get bonus exp..
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>>501724891
Always has been for PC players, only consoletards are allowed to opt out but why would they?
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>>501721972
jesus christ wtf, does it download the entire game?
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>>501722462
Do you want to delete big boys in one overhead? Branx.
Do you want to wiff hordes with fast heavies? Karsolas.
Do you want a middle ground with a push attack that doesn't suck but has you alternating heavies and lights vs hordes and still does respectable damage to the big boys + a special that staggers? Borovian.
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>>501725530
Pretty much yeah. They're too retarded to release an actual demo version of their jankslop garbage.
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>>501725159
I didn’t remember it being that way. Damn
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>>501725645
ok I guess I'll test,any setting I need to lower besides shadows? I presume it's not optimized
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>>501725530
It's literally the entire game I think, except you don't get to character select, and Old Man is the baseline character. He doesn't get to go fast like the whore or carry tons of shit and do really well with strong guns like Bag Man or Mask Man.

The game's janky as fuck. Enemies fighting each other out in the field look ridiculous, and watching them fight is meant to be one of the main entertainments as they're basically kaiju battles. In order to make sure you remember that you're "NOT THAT GUY" they also put unkillable pursuer enemies into the game that will one tap you if given the chance, and can only be dissuaded from bumrushing you with a peppering of bullets, but will absolutely not give up regardless, and it just feels like shit to play against, especially since later in the game you're actually expected to KILL the mechs, and these medium sized enemies are somehow tougher than a mech.
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>>501725926
christ and from what I read the shitty water mechanic hasn't been removed
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>>501725992
The water mechanic sounds annoying as hell on paper but in practice, if you play the game for just a few hours you will quickly gather enough water to last for over a week. The question is though, what is the point of the mechanic in the first place if you can basically trivialize the timer aspect of your water supply in just an hour or two of playing?
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>>501726262
my base says it caps out at 4 days tho, so you must be referring to stashed water, and in which case you're neglecting the fact that the game still demands that you at least log in once every four days to use the stashed water or it erases your progress
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>6 stacks of martyrdom + FotF with shred on dueling sword
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>>501726262
>>501726358
it shouldn't exist at all,it's very telling about their mindset
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>>501726824
it really is weird, water is not hard to come by at all, so the act of acquiring it and forcing you to "use" stashed water to count towards the cap instead of just automatically using it all suggests the mechanic really only exists to hook people and force them to come back regularly

or, perhaps more maliciously, they're hoping you won't remember and then you have to grind again, because otherwise gathering a shit load of goodies and just sitting around with them isn't hard at all either, once you grind out your characters and get the big backpacks to just haul a load of treasure out without having fired a single shot
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REMOVE SHOUT FROM THE GAME
I USED TO THINK SMIGGERS WERE THE WORST BUT AT LEAST THEY EAT SHIT
SHOUT MAKES THE GAME SO FUCKING BORING
FUCK
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>>501727219
Shout is fine if they remove the gold toughness. Or... gold toughness should replace the knock back. Having both, especially when you have 2 vets makes the game braindead easy.
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wish i could grab that +25 toughness node ngl
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>>501727219
at least voc has cooldown, smite is the most broken thing in the game retard, shitters will fold with anything regardless, be it voc smite or even stealth shit
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>>501725926
>In order to make sure you remember that you're "NOT THAT GUY" they also put unkillable pursuer enemies into the game that will one tap you if given the chance, and can only be dissuaded from bumrushing you with a peppering of bullets, but will absolutely not give up regardless, and it just feels like shit to play against, especially since later in the game you're actually expected to KILL the mechs, and these medium sized enemies are somehow tougher than a mech.
this is why i call it the cuck game, youre not allowed to enjoy the cool shit, go back to collecting sloppy seconds
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>>501727413
tough guys making tough choices
it is what it is
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>>501727535
>at least voc has cooldown
CDR from trinkets and talents go brrrrrrrrrrrrr
>support slut psyker on the team with both CDR auras
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>501727540
>Shit on eveything in the game
>I am that guy
>"NOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT THAT GUY"
>Spawns litteraly unkillable shit
i ain't booting that game back until they make those actually killable, there's 5 kind of ennemies that are unkillable for no reason, i have arround 2 months of water anyway, idk if they fixed the dupe glitch yet
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>>501727413
Don't skip the rending on elite kill node if you're going with the flames build and or using the achylis, rending amplifies the flame damage to a hilarious degree and lets you mow down crushers. I usually skip the bottom left two nodes on the keystone since an added 4% chance to save ammo and crit isn't as important as 10% rending. Same goes for braced regen and reloaded. It's a pretty huge sacrifice but I think it's very worth it unless you're taking a carpace weapon which I find boring. I can only bring myself to play the knife anymore.
>>501727535
>at least voc has cooldown
In what world, you can chain that shit near indefinitely with all of the cooldown reduction it has, that's what makes it so broken in my opinion. Either it needs to have its gold toughness removed, or its cooldown significantly higher for such an impactful skill.
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>>501727737
PUT YOUR KARKIN BOOTS IN i don't know what he's saying
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tfw all the weapons will be powercrept on the next patch.
i'm guessing the moebian steel shit is probably gonna end up being the lore reason we're getting actual uncapped red weapons
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>>501728080
chorus can do the same yet people don't complain as much, it doesn't need anything, what needs to happen is having 2 other actually not completely worthless skills to pick from like zealot has
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This guy has an aura
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If you use:
>Shout
>Smite
>Chorus
>Shroud
>Vet Stealth
>Taunt
I am going to stand still and record you playing, leave your game, and then put the webm on 4chan and then make a youtube essay on why the way you play is problematic *CLAP* and needs attention.
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>>501728338
I only have problems with smite and voice.
Why is taunt on the list?
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>>501728335
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Lmao nothing will get nerfed, how else do you expect console shitters to clear auric maelstrom
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>>501728117
He says "put the karkin boot in".
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>add a gutter runner instant damage on grab n all
>make sure atleast two can spawn at the same time
>game suddenly is challenging mysteriously
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>>501728565
This, I always laugh at nerftrannies seething about Voice or Smite or weapons like Plasma or the DS. They won't get nerfed, they're here to stay, cry about it.
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I just want Smite to be replaced by Telekenesis that adds more interaction with enemies and objects
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>>501728338
Based community member addressing problems with the game, posts proof, and explains his arguments with logic and reason. We should all strive to be like you.
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>>501728128
how effective is opportunist compared to skullcrusher? Quicker to apply I guess
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>>501728667
guess i'll keep crying then
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>>501728808
Pretty much, damage is universal tho, i don't thing you benefit that much from rending on soft targets
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>>501729173
me on the left
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>>501729173
look at her go
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>>501729173
our psyker does good work... occasionally...
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>>501729173
I look like this and say this
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>>501729173
Which is better Empowered Smite and Shriek or Warp Charge for more Shriek and regular Smite?
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>>501729704
uuhhhh default with the crouch slide kite and a team mate to actually back you up

otherwise don't use it unless you're priming shit for breakpoints with the 10% dmg
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>>501729704
Use both.
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I want to smooch Dukane
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>>501724891
>now
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I think i just found a bug with Warp Unbound. It should prevent overload but I still managed to overload with it. This lead to a wipe.
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>>501729935
This, but my babe Hestia.
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>>501729704
Warp charge because it encourages using other things than smite.
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>>501730415
Yeah it's bugged. There is a very brief period where if you cast at like 99.5% peril, before you gain the immunity buff at 100%, where you will still explode yourself.
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>>501730415
Been around for a while.
Its why I dont use it.
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>>501730645
exactly what happened
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>>501730726
I've used it for months now and this is the first time it happened. I had no idea.
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anon from yesterday, been loving shield on ogryn with the kickback so far. mastery is half leveled now, but this event has me going against so many beasts that I feel like im not contributing enough damage.
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>>501730728
Ideally all it would take for them to fix it is to have the immunity buff kick in at 99% instead of 100%, who knows if they're ever going to fix it though.
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>>501730948
ogryn in general isn't great for beasts
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>>501731070
can taunt them and turn them around at least
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>>501729704
shried AND empowered smite, you're already getting enough CDR and quell to get multiple shrieks in a single smite
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>>501731070
remember when ogryns could bitch slap meatbags and plague ogryns?
Fun times...
they really did patch the fun out of ogryn
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>>501731650
you don't understand dude it was so op on sedition. Never mind the fact the vet can do that with his plasma or has access to so much more dmg
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>time to check out the Darktide event
>log into my Ogryn
>Error disconnect
>check the cash shop rotation (dogshit weapon recolor slop)
>Error disconnect
>redo my Ogryns talent tree
>Error disconnect

>Remember I got Vermintide 2 for cheap (or free?)
>Buy Warrior Priest
See you next year Darktide.
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>>501732570
the more I play ratgame the more I realize it is actually the superior game, I just wish it looked less flat, but maybe I just have bad video settings
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>>501732570
That never happened but okay.
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>>501730948
Embrace the LOOOOG. Gunlugger with burn damage stubber, or fast reload sticky rumbler makes short work of monstrosities usually. You should be able to take off half a health bar in a single ability use. Just don't pull out your gun for anything else other than emergencies so you don't run out of ammo, and always save at least 1 full mag for an unexpected monstrosity.

You don't even need to build into guns, just remember to take the top right reload node when running rumbler. Stick with your heavy melee bleed + toughness build, but try to get the ammo node.
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>>501733365
Oh and put +25% unyielding on your gun, or whatever highest level you have with your current mastery.
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>>501733324
Suck my cock Anon.
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>>501732570
Darktide's programming is complete fucking garbage.
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>>501734610
>still continues to buy fatshark games
some people never learn
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Servers have been a little rough, I've had to go through a few disconnection loops to get into games recently.
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>>501735241
probably because their cheap shit servers can't handle a larger load than usual due to the event.
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>>501734610
use 8.8.8.8 instead of your dogshit shitskin provider dns
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>>501734610
this is a user error not game error
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huh that was fast, it took 1 game
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add the fucking LMGs already
>massive belt size so you can unload for a while before reloading, if it even reloads at all and doesn't just draw all ammo directly from reserves
>possibly has the heat mechanic like the plasma gun
and then give it a pool of blessings centered around firing in bursts and enemy suppression
>Punishing Salvo
>Sustained Fire
>Ceaseless Barrage
>Blaze Away
>Cavalcade
I'm sick of opening the talent tree for Veteran and being teased by the artwork in the top left
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>>501734610
the madlad he did it
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>>501735885
Im not a tech support Indian.
I just searched my most recent error log for whatever looked fitting.
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>>501733158
I bet this nigga also thinks Kamala won
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>>501736028
Yer gonna have to wait for DT2
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>>501736028
just play ogryn duh
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>>501736028
and don't tell me it's because Fat Shark can't figure out the ammo belt part
JUST GIVE IT A BIG BOX
THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO
NOW GIVE ME MY MACHINE GUN
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>>501736319
>>501657301
find a better comeback, Pajeet. And a better game too. Seriously, learn english.
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trying to optimise for multiple penances at once really does bring some particularly shit builds, goo d good thing i'm done with the stay close one at least
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>>501733158
Nah it's the game's fault, but low settings make the problem 10x worse.
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>>501736319
>The Virgin "actively developed" new game based on GWs biggest cash cow.
VS
>The Chad 6 year old game based on a dead IP.
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>>501736509
Lmao I was right.
This nigga is mad
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>>501736319
Just love how the resident indian loves to spam the same shit every thread thinking it's a clever comeback.
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>>501736028
not tomention stubbers and hellguns are already in the game. and the fucking enemies shouldn't even HAVE hellguns since they're tied to stormtrooper forces wargear. and that's inquisition, ecclesiarchy, and commissariat etc. not rogue IG or random faggots on the street. hell, chaos cultists and crap don't even get hellguns, they're stuck with autoguns and stubguns and crap. for the enemy to have hellguns and the players not to is just insulting 'go fuck yourself' from the devs.

hellguns should have atrocious mobility, since they ARE bulky and heavy, which is why only stormtroopers who are basically captain america, get to use them, to go with their super carapace.. they should hit somewhere between a lasgun and the full charged hellebore / longlas. and have massive ammo pool drawing from reserves. maybe disable sprinting with it out. or make 'srinting' with it like ogryn's dead slow shuffle with twin stubber out.

for that fucking matter toughness and mobility should be FIRST primarily derived from your ARMOUR, which shouldn't be fucking cosmetic. it should be ... armour. for erxample, if you CHOOSE to go into a mission in your shirtsleeves, then you should have a severe toughness nerf, but mobility buff. if you choose to wear flak, you should have decent toughness, decent mobility. if you choose to wear full ksrkin level carpace, you should have severe toughness buff, mobility nerf. THEN all your toughness and mobility shit applies to modify THAT. leave the cosmetics but separate them by types, so that you can see by looking what kind someone's wearing.
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>>501736879
>>501737020
Rat niggas trying to cope with being in last place.
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>>501737041
too many words for my ogryn brain
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>>501737041
wow calm down, you almost stole one of pd2's formula, that game failed miserably unlike the new fun and improved system
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>>501737041
They'll never do that.
>>501737368
It wasn't too bad back then.
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So the TH doesn't play that great with crits, but Second Wind is still almost mandatory on zealot. Do you guys take Scourge and Enduring Faith with it or just do Blood Redemption because it's not much but it's something?
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I always assume that people with the knoife or DS are shitheads who won't do shit the entire game.
More often than not, I'm right about them.
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>>501738879
but sometimes you're wrong
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>>501729173
I like the female seer psyker because she's nice to my ogryn
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>>501738879
Not me though, I'm carrying you
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>>501738568
i skip second wind on most of my builds and I seem to be doing just fine without it
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>>501738879
well they one shot mutants so it's less of a hassle...
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>>501738879
funny, more often than not they end up toping games because they're using the most overtuned shit in the game, me included, i'd rather have those than a retarded toonkgryn or a kriegger larp
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Someone explain to me how this somehow is more visually appealing than the characters we can make in Darktide
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>>501741473
UUUUUGGGHHH SO FUCKING PALE I CAN PRACTICALLY SEE THROUGH HER SKIN LIKE SHE'S TRANLUCENT I'M GONNA FUCKING COOOOOM
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>>501741473
Because that art doesn't properly convey how much of a horrific freak that thing would be to look at if it was in front of you
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>>501741651
Still cuter than any Darktide character
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>>501736319
Why is Darktide so popular with indians?
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>>501739270
Do you use martyrdom without it?
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>>501741750
Hadron mogs
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>>501742391
>>501737071
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>>501742456
answer me Rahul
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I hope auras get reworked
every class either has a single decent one, a single one that's so much better than the others that they might as well not exist, or only bad ones
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>>501742537
>>501737071
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>>501742398
for thunder hammer, sure
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>>501743046
The proportions are way off but the lighting is cool and it's well detailed.
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>>501743842
Without second wind? Show build.
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>>501743046
>the ogryn is barely taller than a woman
it's crazy how the limitations of darktide made people view ogryns, they're actually 3 meters tall and 1500kg in the lore. In darktide they're like a couple heads taller at most

here, expert rendition of the scale the ogryn should actually be at lorewise, roughly
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>>501744239
i don't have a set build, i keep changing it all the time
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>>501743740
I accept your concession, Rahul.
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>>501744637
how did you do that?
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>>501744637
1500kg is a bit much. It's more like 500kg...
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retards that think fartshart will make a compelling and unique new class are forgetting decades of trash. It's so egregious that they have to be fucking retarded. If you have a difference of opinion, you're wrong and a tranny.
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>>501738568
Second Wind isn't mandatory on all Zealot builds, though it is really strong with Enduring Faith. You can basically infinitely sustain yourself on the front line with that combo, unless a Reaper is shooting at you.
>Do you guys take Scourge and Enduring Faith with it or just do Blood Redemption because it's not much but it's something?
Take Scourge if you're running some crit build, but one with good attack speed (KNIFE is perfect. Hammer is shit).
Now if you're running TH... you don't need to go into Second Wind. You are slow and have poor mobility with a one shotting weapon, you're really not going to be in front of gunners side dodging like crazy like you would with a knife.
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>>501745009
He painted it on a computer idiot. Zoomers think pictures are only made by AI now.
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>>501745275
Are you drunk?
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What counts as a specialist in Darktide?
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>>501745449
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?type=SPECIALIST
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>>501745404
I accept your concession, Rahul.
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>>501745449
Trapper
Flamers
Bombers
Mutants
Hounds
Burster
Sniper
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>>501745561
what are you doing man
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>>501719370
You mean career that is only allowed to use melee weapons? This alone is a good enough justification.
>>501719395
They should add a 2h power sword and a meltagun to existing classes. Zealot already covers SoB playstyle. Tech class is the one that is really missing.
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>>501745009
The IG index says they do weigh about 1000kg
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>>501744803
>>501737071
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Ratnigga literally be this dude
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>>501747010
Yes Pajeet, we know you're mad Vermintide is a more loved game kek
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>>501745561
I concess your acception.
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who is stronger lorewise, beast of nurgle or random space marine?
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>>501745243
I've been trying a lot of small changes to try and optimise this, got any ideas or suggestions?
I'm using TH, +3 wounds from curios and switching between revolver and double barrel.
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>>501747485
Who cares faggot it's a game
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America 1960: Vietnamtide
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>>501747407
>Took this long to respond
Nigga had to stop crying to see the screen XD
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>>501747485
Beast of Nurgle.
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>>501747648
>4 vietkong members cleave through american hordes
vgh...
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Ratniggas cant even get they shit hard unless they yt elf be fucked by a black rat
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the resident indian poster is trying really hard today, what's happening?
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>>501747648
Koreatide would work
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>>501748017
ratniggas literally cant get brown dick out they mind
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Trench Crusade tide game made a competent dev.
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>>501748237
Trench Crusade tried too hard to be edgy
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>>501748312
Yeah, so did 40K.
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>>501747589
there's a very big optimisation you could do, which is to not pick martyrdom
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>>501748391
40k looks cool though. Troon Crusade has no real distinct style other than "LE EDGY"
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>>501748503
it has a dinstinct style which is basically 40k but you know it's a knockoff, litteraly everything they have exists in 40k
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>auric maelstrom retarded psyker kills the poxburster I was about to push
>uses some mod to say "sorry"
>it's in french
of course
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>>501748754
Just looks like slop if im being completely honest.
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>Nigger die close to the end and leaves instantly
>Was a very easy pickup
>Second nigger aggros DH and dies
>Proceed to leave instantly
>DH switch aggros before execute because bot
>I'm now stunlocked
>Last guy falls off a ledge somewhere
I unironically wish they'd add a penalty for leaving, it's fucking annoying having everyone that goes down instantquit
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>>501749038
They'd never add a penalty for anything at all. Think of the poor console players.
Also enjoy your new weaves with retards quitting all the time because they can't lose their precious rank.
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Hopefully they can make a quickplay solver soon, I need some materials overnight
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>>501748876
>we have space marines at home
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How is the jump from Malice to Heresy?
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>>501749235
>armour is cool
>not too over the top like 40K
>couple dents, signs of wear selling the desperation of the war
What's not to love?
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>>501749296
players lose 20 iq that's the biggest change here
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>>501749296
First bump in difficulty of the game, a small bump but still a bump.
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>>501749476
>not too over the top like 40K
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>>501749665
Are you seriously trying to say this is somehow more over the top than 40K? Are you crazy enough to think this is somehow close to being the same level as over the top than 40K?
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>>501747589
NTA but what are you actually trying to do with this build?
This looks like a "support" build that can barely generate it's support. It doesn't really throw any weight behind using a Thunder Hammer, it doesn't really do anything to generate Combat Ability Cooldown Reduction (Martyrs Purpose is RIGHT THERE and you skipped it), it uses Martyrdom so doesn't always fire on all cylinder...
It basically says "Hey, I plan to go down a lot, pick me up and I might be helpful if things go right".
Maybe I just don't get how to build Martydom builds, but on initial glance, this ain't it.
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>>501749038
>I unironically wish they'd add a penalty for leaving
They'd better fix their netcode first. Because I swear 75% of the time you fuckers complain about leavers it's likely just crashes / disconnects — for some weird reason the character remains in the game for like ~half a minute after player disconnects, but will just stay still and do nothing, meaning it will likely die. And only after that it will get replaced by a bot.
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>>501749825
No you esl shitdick, he's saying its just as over the top as 40k
Are you one of those zoomers who can't read at a 2nd grade level I keep hearing about?
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>>501750190
>for some weird reason the character remains in the game for like ~half a minute after player disconnects
completely untrue. When you DC you get replaced by a bot instantly, but you can hit reconnect and it loads you back in alive (unelss you were full dead)
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whoever designed the Tox Bomber needs to be hung from a fucking tree.
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>>501743046
look at that smite GOD carrying the rest of those ingrates
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>>501750427
That's only if you disconnect properly via menu.
But when you DC because of some internet problems or if you crash — your character 100% sticks around for some time. I usually play with a friend and I've see his character remaining after he'd crash and he'd seen mine character doing the same.
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>>501750760
how would you improve them?
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>>501750179
Just a generalist build I use for normal damnation. 3 stacks of martyrdom and I can one shot all carapace and reapers, one tap bruisers in the head, other than that I use heavy attacks to clear hordes (which is the reason I take Vicious Offering). I don't spam chorus, I use it to clear space if the team gets pushed back. Not spamming chorus is the reason I skipped on cooldown reduction.
And I'm somewhat new to martyrdom in general, but from testing it seems to work the best with the TH because of the breakpoints I mentioned. It doesn't have the mobility for IJ nor the speed and crits for BP.
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>>501747589
First off don't listen to this faggot retard >>501748465 who doesn't play TH. Your build looks alright, pretty close to what most people use. Matyrdom is indeed the way to go for TH since you want more base damage for the breakpoints that are really annoyingly just barely out of TH's base damage breakpoint even with thrust.
I would REALLY recommend taking fury of the faithful over chorus because having two charges of instant full toughness regen and aoe suppression, on top of the 25% base damage and crit, the attack speed is also far more nice. Its also much more spammable which is perfect for the full aggro playstyle of matyrdom to let you do more damage with less fear of dying. Chorus is kind of in a really bad spot currently compared to it.
I never really saw swift certainty as a necessity.
Use knives if you ever plan to swap to a flamer or a bolter, bolter pairs very nicely, I find myself taking knives a lot more because of their utility against specials.
I usually run 2 wounds and a stamina, or 2 wounds and a toughness, 3 wounds is a lot more glass cannon but lets you really pump out more damage but matyrdom toughness reduction damage really wants some more toughness to it since that's the entire gimmick behind it, most of martyrdoms problems would be solved if it just worked on hp percentage rather than wounds but fatshart are faggots who refuse to rework the ability.
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>>501743046
Why is the ogryn so short?
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>>501749296
ease in to it sister, once you feel like you're actually doing your part on malice, then you're ready for heresy
there is no right level except the one the game forces. don't be afraid to try damnation once you feel comfortable in heresy!
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this man speaks the truth
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>>501750760
I fucking hate hearing the pin pull and having no idea where the bomber is after he tosses a grenade
>from across the map
>through a vent
>onto the rolling steel train
>bounces off grendyl's nutsack
>and lands perfectly at my feet
>lanky retard jogs away and does it again.
God help you if there is more than one.

Its such a simple (relative to the swede's inability to make anything but spaghetti code) fix, just make the bomber require DIRECT line of sight before throwing their bullshit olympic alleyoop throw. At least that way the player knows they "should" be able to see the bomber before it throws.
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>>501750831
Great question. I would delete them from the game.
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habbening???
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>>501751423
Go see for yourself in the Meat Grinder just how far they can throw their bombs, it's even further then you can imagine. Complete fucking stupidity, they are basically gas snipers.
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>>501751570
OMG OMG OMG NEW CONTENT SOOOO HYYYYYYYYPE ANYONE ELSE HYYYYYYYYYYPE!???
CANT WAIT FOR MY SLIGHTLY ALTERED CARNIVAL MAP OF CORRIDORS!!!
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>>501751570
inb4 "Coming Q2 2025"
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>>501750872
I'll try that. I liked the charge when doing the penances but after switching to chorus for the other penances I never really changed that part of the build.
I use the blades with the eviscerator, but it's a crit build with BP paired with a bolter. Different stuff.
I used to use 2 wounds and one stamina, but found the stamina not really necessary and dropped it, taking Desperation in the process for more damage and potentially skipping one stack of martyrdom for some breakpoints. 3 wounds means I need to lose less health in order to build stacks so that's what I went with.
>>501751097
I think I've seen this post before...
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>>501751570
>Attention: Explicator Zola
>Subject: Wolfer & Rinda

Hot dog, we get to fight the same fucking traitor captain again!
I thought we were spoiled with Rolling Steel having the same boss, but now we get it again!
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>Ratniggas still mad they had to pay for they winds of magic DLC
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>>501751570
>protocols
Psyker Savant intensifies.
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>>501751423
>I fucking hate hearing the pin pull and having no idea where the bomber is after he tosses a grenade
Do you have some audio setup issue? I love the directional audio in this game. I can tell from the pin pull alone exactly where the bomber is and often I'll be able to snap around and btfo him before he throws it thanks to it
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>81 dollars
>18 payed DLC
The ratnigga wants you to think they game isnt shopclick
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>>501751570
>posts 2 minutes after the video is uploaded
post tits, strawhat
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>>501752183
I like the gameplay of Darktide more but Vermintide has an objectively much better content offering. And guess what? It's not even CLOSE
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>>501752183
80 buckaroo banzais for everything compared to an indefinite amount of money needed for DT is an insane fumble of a talking point here
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>it's a trapper shoots through 300 ragers and your 2 teammate ogryns to snipe you episode
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>>501752053
We don't say nice things about a game in this thread unless arguing with someone. Your bootlicking would be better served on reddit.

No directional audio is not the problem, the problem is when your surrounded by a mixed horde and that fucker arcs his grenade over the Chasm Logistratum bridge because his shitty coding told him it was a possible throw.
Forget the enemies surrounding you, the the 30m of marble brick and stairs in the way makes it impossible to kill him.
And no, I am not making this up. I've seen both tox and regular bomber pull shit like this all the time.
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>>501751570
If we get at least 2 new weap (not variants) I'll reinstall maybe
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>>501749235
Never seen that before, I like it.
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>>501752440
Ratniggas tryin to cope that its better to pay for your dlc than get it for free XD
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>>501752532
> that fucker arcs his grenade over the Chasm Logistratum bridge because his shitty coding told him it was a possible throw.
And if the grenade reaches you it evidently was
you sound really asshurt because you're having a skill issue about one of the well designed specials
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>>501752686
It's better to get content in my DLCs than reskinned chinaslop cosmetics or the occasional corridor map with slightly shuffled setpieces yes
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>>501752321
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>>501752441
Nigga we pay to look fly.
Yo ass pays money for a hard mode
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>>501752321
we know for sure Strawhat is lurking here she's a Turkopots avid viewer
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>>501752686
nigga we're not getting shit, be it free or paid, i'd rather have paid than litteraly nothing
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>>501727295
>Swedish Japease Version
?
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>>501752693
Holy shit you actually are a bootlicker, I was just being an asshole.
How far do you go to defend every aspect of this game? Is it because you invested too much time and feel you need to, or do you just have a large dent in your head?

Regardless, tell me how this game is perfect and any criticism is just a skill issue
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>>501753073
>wahhh the special who arcs grenades can arc his grenades over walls
:((((
you'll get over it, spastic
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>>501752820
Nigga you is trying to argue that you want to pay for content than get it for free
Ratniggas be trippin HARD
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>>501751570
Amazing they managed to release a teaser BEFORE the update

Wich means the update is soon, very soon...
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>>501753038
>japanese is way more expenisive
huh
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>>501753239
>>501753014
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>>501753239
If the free content is substantially less interesting and fun then yes, I'd rather pay for something.
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>>501753038
small minority in japan but they exist
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>>501747589
I would not take Martyr with TH anymore. Reason being, is now your charged lights 1shot all specials and your charged heavies 1shot all elites (except Crushers, which you can with just a very slight buff in damage). So Martyr just lets you do more damage to bosses with TH. That's a good pro, but with TH, you are slow and clunky as fuck, and you're bound to take some damage somewhere. To run Martyr optimally, you have to go without HP, and TH just isn't nimble enough to survive constant melee combat without getting buttstabbed by some faggot pox. The other fact is, you can run Fury or Perfectionist and near one shot bosses anyway, so all that risk isn't even necessary anymore. You also don't benefit from the attack speed Martyr gives you that much, since you're a one-shot weapon.

I think BP is the best keystone for TH, because you don't need more damage, you need to get your abilities up faster, so BP will make about 1/3 of your attacks crit which you can use with Invocation to keep your abilities up all the time. You can also take Stalwart, since you really don't need that much crit, and that will help a lot in shaving off damage.

As for combat ability, I think all 3 can work with TH. Shroud Perfectionist is the highest damage you can get and will 1 shot bosses, but it can be very tricky to do in a real game because that window is tight and there's so much shit to fuck it up (Try to kill a Slug? Too bad, your retard Psyker won't stop hitting it causing it to tail wag you away. Oh there goes your Shroud).
Chorus is a defensive TH, but it is good. You trade off damage for being more generally useful to your team, allowing them to pitch in to bosses too (and you can go the damage buff Chorus if you'd like).
Fury is right in the middle. Gives you great mobility, which you REALLY need with TH because literally everything will cuck you, and some nice damage boosts (Not as big as Shroud, but it's good).
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>>501753434
>If the free content is substantially less interesting and fun then yes
Do ratniggas really think typing out they card is interesting?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkjXhwYrdV4
b.. bros?
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>>501753247
I'd bet that video was made a year ago and they never used it. Wolfer has been a thing for a year and nothing has been done with him besides mission voice lines.
I would not be surprised if that was some planned update video they fucked up forever ago.
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>501753434
>I'd rather pay for something.
Ratnigga going full pay pig
WE FULL CIRCLE NOW
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>>501753616
>Wolfer has been a thing for a year
Dreg shotgunner was here from release, where's the content
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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What do you even want on kick back besides surgical? All the choices kind of seem like flavor
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>>501753613
IT'S. FUCKING. HERE!!! RAAAAAAAORRRRR
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>>501754143
blaze away is the only thing that you could realistically benefir from, or full bore if you unload into a boss's ass maybe
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>>501751570
new boss mission which is just rehashed existing map eh? with bossfight happening on the arena I bet
also I imagine it will come out alongside gaystation release unless swede competence strikes again
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>>501725575
Holy shit borovian has billhook special. I’m in love
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>>501753613
>biron wolfer
>rinda karnak
wow cool reskinend twins fight coming up
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>>501743046
I think it's interesting that only women draw art for this game.
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>>501754720
I don't want to kill Wolfer, who else will protect me from mazosi in my vox...
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOLF GANG LET'S GOOOOOOOO
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>>501754529
Borovian was my first love when they came, Branx my true love as long as I run a skullbreaker spec.
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>>501754720
kek mf is called 'Biron"? what kind of gay name is this lmao lame ass nigga
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>>501753613
>Death is but a door
>[Digital Omnissiah Chanting Intensifies]
Servitor 5th class confirmed. Kayex approves.
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>>501721529
Microjew single-handedly holding back the widespread adoption of gyro controls in multiplatform shooters by not putting gyroscopes in their controllers; not even their expensive as fuck Elite controllers have them.
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>>501738568
Second Wind is fantastic, but it isn't mandatory. I miss it on a lot of my builds, including my normal TH build (I do run it on my TH+Flamer+Throwing Knives one obviously). This is my normal TH build, and it works well. It is harder to contend with rooms of spread out shooters because Vicious Offering and EWEW aren't so great there, but it's still perfectly doable, and that's the main time you feel the absence of SW.
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>>501754976
what's the name of Dreg Shotgunner-sama then?
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>>501741473
Because aside from the blue hue to her skin, red sclera, and poison-looking veins, she's fairly conventionally attractive, and those marks against her are done in a way that rather than appearing grotesque, instead maker her look exotic (far easier to accomplish in 2D; Cassia is basically a monster girl). Meanwhile, DT characters look like crack addicts who're the products of sixteen generations of consanguineous relations.
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>Hello rejects, we made your gun black and put royalty free skulls on it.
>It took 6 months (and 7 vacations) but we finally got it done
That will be $5 (+tip)
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>>501747589
Left is my non-Martyrdom hammer build. There are 3 points left, you can put them where you'd like. If you want just a bit more attack speed to get heavies off faster, then Faithful Frenzy, or if you want more sprint speed to help with your slowness, Sprint Certainty, or Until Death if you like using it, etc. .
You can take Flamer as your secondary and rape all hordes, but then you have absolutely nothing for ranged attacks, so maybe go into the Knife branch if so. Revolver would be THE special killer, but then you have to rely on just your heavies (and team) for horde clear, and that's ass. In that case, may want to consider Incendiaries.

Middle would be if you go Chorus, it's not much different. 3 points left. Take the toughness or damage Chorus based on your preference, or neither if you feel other nodes are better spent. Team reliant though, I don't like using it over the others.
Right is Fury, it's nice because it's the cheapest path and you have 5 free points for extra nodes. Also since Fury gives you crits... helps a lot with keeping your charges up (and always take double Fury, always).
You can also just go full BP and not take Stalwart, if you feel that 10% helps your skill uptime more than the tdr.
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>>501755479
Bob
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>>501756197
Feels more like a Stu
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>>501751283
meant for >>501732570
oops haha
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>>501755221
God I hope so. Imagine a character that even the Ogryn speaks down to.
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Death is but a door?
What does that mean?
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spot the console player
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>>501757559
Its rebirth/resurrection after death, something Nurglefags often yap about in game
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>>501757728
Spot the knifelot
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>>501757778
but why a door, a door to where
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>>501757927
You can litteraly see the weapons you fucking retard
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>>501757932
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>>501757559
Me confused and angry that the dick is still not in me
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>gift a Darktide key I got for free to a friend
>see he played 4 hours
>ask him if he likes it
>"I only played 45 min it seems the game is bugged and keeps playing even when I close it, also I wanted to train with bots but there's no option for that?"
>thanks me for the key but decides it's not a game for him
You're my only friends now, guys.
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>>501758047
Found the knifelot
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>>501753574
The main thing I've always run Martyr for with the TH was the attack speed with the other stuff being nice additions, but playing around with it in the Meat Grinder for a bit, I am gonna go with BP on it for a while. Unfortunately, Scourge seems to not help much at all at 20% crit, but it seems like you can still keep EF up at near 100% with just 20% crit using light attacks, so shooter rooms shouldn't be bad. Having to choose between Second Wind, 10% attack speed, and Unyielding+Infested damage is pain though
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>>501757932
To rebirth
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>>501753613
>Wolfer (Biron)
deepest lore.
OZ = Orgustine Zola.
So apparently Zola prays for Wolfers safety
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>>501729935
Why did they give her the most obnoxious vocal fry imaginable? I can't even place what the fuck her accent is supposed to be.
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>>501760343
Sounds like a bad russian accent to me.
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>>501755243
That's me protecting female Savant spark'ead with bubble ability after my 2 zealot teammates rushed foward and instantly ddie
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>>501758871
Been there pal, word of advice, make sure they might like the game, ask about what they think about the game, on videos, get in conversation with him, maybe show him a stream of you playing the game, never really go blind with a gift.
Better luck next time, pal.
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>>501760615
She'll never suck your dick, bro.
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>>501757728
you already have him highlighted
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>>501759664
Because he's her father. everyone knows this...
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>>501760343
now thinking about it her voice reminds me of Drummer from The Expanse, but maybe my memory is playing tricks on me she was hot as fuck
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>>501761137
I dont think she can, Ogryn is too much for punies to handle
I'm content with a hug
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>>501759072
yeah, try Martyr and BP, see which you like more. I think they're both viable, I just prefer BP. My core reasoning is:
>TH already has a shit load of damage, what you need is a way to help you do it, not more damage
and so I say just build some crit with BP and take Invocation, and now your abilities, which help you stay alive and do your damage to enemies, are up a lot more, which is just vastly more useful. And of course, don't forget those crits deal more damage too anyway. If you go Stalwart, there's some nice defense for you too, and you get that at no work on your part, no sacrificing all your HP (unlike Martyr), and you can take all the different curios you want and not be bound by wound curios (btw if you use Desperation, you also don't need a +3 stamina curios, so go take full toughness and that + your 40% tdr will help a lot with shooters. Maybe consider ability cdr to help even more with your cooldowns).

Yeah, there are some really small damage breakpoints Martyr can get you over, but so can any of the damage nodes on the tree (and it's literally just 1, Crushers).
>Having to choose between Second Wind, 10% attack speed, and Unyielding+Infested damage is pain though
Purge the Unclean is just too good not to take. That's a 20% damage buff to bosses (your job), Bulwarks (annoying faggots), Reapers, ....horde... and as a small bonus, dogs. I never skip this node. Anoint in Blood boosts your secondary's damage anyway, which is really nice, so it's not even a wasted point to get to Purge the Unclean.
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>>501760343
>>501760539
It sounds like a Californian from the bay area emulating a russian accent. Personally I find it to be quite possibly the most annoying voice in the game, though both hallowette and mup da doo diddasozi give her a run for her money
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is warp flurry still broken
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I don't mind her voice, there are FAR worse ones in game since day 1
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>>501761160
>everyone knows this...
darkturd lore is esoteric because nobody cares about it
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>>501743189
and then theres psyker who has a flat cdr aura that isnt actually in the aura slot he can pick ontop of his % cdr aura, and is singlehandedly the best aura in the game
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>>501760615
>clearly a zealot with zealot clothes and a thunder hammer
>female Savant spark'ead with bubble ability
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>>501761939
seriously wtf is up with Psykinetic Aura?
why the hell does it affect nearby allies while already being so incredibly strong by itself?
the fact that you can't take Psykinetic Aura while taking Assail means that Assail is automatically turbo F-tier garbage
it is retardedly good for a simple talent node
it isn't as flashy as something like Voice of Command, but it's just as overtuned
S+++ tier
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>>501762184
I know.
I dont care.
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Good job Catfish, you truly earned your paycheck.
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>>501755243
>Charge into every mixed horde with my thunder hammer, bonking and conking
>Cute Ogryn roleplayer with shield and taunt keeps telling me not to charge in alone
>He runs ahead to taunt everything and then special action blocks while I beat everything to death
>Take double digit damage the entire run thanks to him
>Thank him many times for protecting me and that he's my big strong hero
>He tells me he's just doing his duty of keeping the lil uns safe
Ogryn roleplayers are cute!
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>>501762843
i would've shittalked the shit out of him, all the reddit toonkgryns must die
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>>501762507
Fatshark has this thing going on where they think describing an electric background sound as
>eerie synth notes crackle in the wind much like my disgusting nurglite roastbeef pussy flaps
is the height of wit and epicness, and they get endless positive feedback for it from retarded redditors who think using big words for something mundane is witty and hilarious
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>>501762843
if he knew you were a fag he wouldve unvoluntarily reacted violently (gay panic) and stomped on your head, killing you instantly
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>>501762967
You will die alone, miserable and forgotten
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>>501762507
>crushing sound like when I step on a nigger's skull while his jaw is on the border of a sidewalk
wtf Catsfish?
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>>501762967
I think they're cute. Plus they make it real easy for me to get huge all yellow games <3
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Which ranged will help me more with crowd control on vet?
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>>501761429
ogryn is hung like a gorilla
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>>501763603
Do you think gay panic is a justified concept or not
within the 40k universe I mean of course, or at a fan meet
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darktiderbros... soon...
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>In 42023, one Hector Enrique Valencia Valencia in New South Wales (Moebian Domain) was found guilty of manslaughter instead of murder after discovering a hive sex worker he had engaged with was a trans woman and proceeding to strangle her with a vox phone cord. The presiding justice stated that it could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Valencia had intended to seriously harm her.[36][37][38]
man laws in the 40k universe are crazy lol, you can just kill gays and trannies there
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>>501763736
kek, good try but I'm not falling for that one
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>>501764320
is this an IRL thing that you converted to 40k...?
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>>501752485
>There was a second trapper behind the one you just killed
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>>501764559
No it's 40k lore, check this one out
>In July 42009, Ferdinand Ambach, 32, a Catachan tourist, was convicted of killing Ronald Brown, 69, by hitting him with abanjoand shoving the instrument's neck down Brown's throat. Ambach was initially charged with murder, but the charge was downgraded to manslaughter after Ambach's imperial lawyer successfully invoked the Imperiums gay panic defense.[42][43]
Thats crazy how killing a gay person doesnt even count as murder in the 40k universe
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>>501764320
wtf
>>501764559
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
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>>501764839
>>501764851
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>>501764851
>>501765036
I copied it straight from the lexicanum
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>>501764320
>>501764851
>Trans
Justified
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what melee goes best with surge staff? maybe illisi? surge seems to be more for sniping elites.
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>>501753574
The problem with BP is that it doesn't give you swing speed, which the TH benefits a lot from. It gives a lot of crit chance but that benefits weapons with a faster swing speed more because they're rolling for crit more often. Swinging speed is what keeps you safe from hordes because it takes longer to charge the heavies you'd be spamming against them.
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>>501766553
Something that lets you deal with hordes, packs of ragers, bosses, depending on your build. Try to cover most threats.
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>>501766553
i like illisi or chain sword
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>>501753574
>>501766554
Just to chime in, swing speed helps the Crucis light attacks a ton and lets you spam them against small elites. In general it's easy to eat chip damage while using the hammers so it's nice to be benefited for it.
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>>501767253
Also that, with enough stacks you can quickly dispatch maulers by spamming lights on their head.
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>>501767413
Exactly. I still think martyrdom is the best hammer keystone.
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>>501753613
Jasper with yet another banger I hear. Idk how he keeps shitting them out but I ain't complaining.
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>>501750872
>Fury with TH
damn, I've been living my whole life wrong. That was so much better than Chorus.
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>>501767657
they still haven't released an mp3 version of the train soundtrack, hope they do so with the new update
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>>501752183
If you skip collectors edition and the cosmetic upgrades it's about 40 bucks.
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>>501752183
Pretty sure VT2 goes on sale at least bi-monthly.
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>Load into mission
>One other person alive with a parade of crushers and maulers on him
>Taunt them and beat them with my shield
>"Thickness saved the run!"
Uh.. thanks..
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fuck this penance holy shit
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>>501767917
Chorus is just really boring ability
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>>501750760
Coooome out
COOOOME OUT :3c
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>>501750760
he only wants to spread the truth
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Felinid update when?
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>>501770768
Never, not on my watch.
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>>501769790
>oh no, I have to use the best ogryn ability
>woe on me
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>>501770768
I wanna be a cute beastgirl!
*playfully headbutts teammates like a bestigor*
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>>501771005
>>501770768
RATLING update when?
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>>501770768
Longshanks first
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>>501771298
Why are cute beastgirls so cute?
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Soooo no new map, no new weapons, no new ennemies next "content" update?
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>>501771941
Hey, we'll get a new blogpost about bullshit lore nobody cares about. It's even gonna feature Zola, aren't you hyped for that?
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>>501771405
You can probably see her nipples
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>>501764320
>>501764851
>>501764839
lol pwnd
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>>501772195
Fuck off Dan Abnett
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>>501771298
*playfully beheads you for making me uncomfortable*
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>>501771689
Because they're cute, silly.
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>>501771405
me (5ft4) with my gf (5ft8)
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>>501771689
>>501772612
Exactly.
>>501771405
I like how that one guy's art of the abhumans took off and inspired other people to draw fan art of them. He really made great designs.
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>>501772576
kek
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>>501772762
>I like how that one guy's art of the abhumans took off and inspired other people to draw fan art of them. He really made great designs.
and yet it's banned on reddit because the mods don't like that he made the Imperium look like fascists
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>>501762374
Wildfire is also next to it, which lets soulblaze builds melt hordes in seconds. Running Assail makes no sense in >90% of builds.
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>>501772893
you say that like it's a bad thing
being banned from reddit is a badge of honor at best and saves you from spending time with the worst community on the internet at worst
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>>501772893
>made the Imperium look like fascists
kek
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>>501773049
I was pointing out how retarded reddit mods were by not wanting the Imperium depicted as a bad thing.
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>>501772893
His art was banned because people kept pointing out how he draws loli and guro.
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What's the best way to build the Ogryn Power Maul? I'm using the blessing that triggers additional shockwaves when hitting Armoured targets but it doesn't really feel like its doing anything.
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>>501773383
that's even more retarded to ban him for something he didn't post there
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>>501773680
>tell someone that I say slurs in private outside of the game after he asked people in chat
>get reported and banned for it despite not saying any in game
real story from overwatch. I'm not mad, I guess I just got baited, but it is kinda funny, like an actual thought crime
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>>501773680
I think it's more because the crowd can't behave without starting fights and everyone reporting each other. Less that he is the problem and more that him existing causes fights to break out and it's easier to avoid that all together. Not a great solution, but certainly less work for the mods.
>>501773956
This is exactly what I was trying to say.
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Reddit seems like an awful place the more I hear about it
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I wish I could draw. Why am I so untalented.
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>>501773956
>waah I dont want to do this job I volunteered for
What a absolute faggot, glad our jannies are faceless goons.
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>>501774106
I'd draw porn all day long
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>>501772893
>>501773383
>>501773680
This is more than likely the reason
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>>501774106
>>501774237
I can draw okay at an amateurish level and I do sometimes draw my own porn, but it's pretty tiring. I wish I was better and I wish more importantly that it was much easier.
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>>501774385
show porn
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>>501774106
>tfw natural artistic talent and learn much, much faster than others
>no interest in drawing
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>>501773956
hilarious
what a dogshit website
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>>501774252
normalfags with the pedo witch hunt are getting old. very convenient way to remove undesirables.
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>>501773415
if you hit 2 armoreds in one swing it triggers 2 explosions
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>>501773415
I'm sorry, but you can't make it good
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I think I am burnt out on darktide after 1600 hours. I played one mission of the Grandfathers Blessnig and was pretty bored. Its just a bunch of beast of nurgle spam.
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>>501775048
He could have stopped at loli art..
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>>501773415
>Power Maul
Probably the worst melee weapon in the game.
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>>501775539
No he had to make it about himself
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>>501775539
>tranny mod just doing something for good
>instead of making it about xirself
lol, lmao even
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>>501775048
>my family is ukrainian
grand-grand-grand parents were probably migrants from Ukraine and his name is Kevin McBurger
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>>501775048
People are still pretending to care about Jewkraine and Bootin?
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what does this new Nurgle event do? are there any challenges i need to knock out? i didnt instantly see anything new when i logged in other then "Nurgle week" or something
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>>501776135
The Nurgle event, often referred to as "Nurgle Week," typically introduces special challenges and rewards for players. While I couldn't find specific details about the current event, it's common for these events to include unique missions, limited-time rewards, and sometimes special gameplay mechanics.

To make the most of the event, keep an eye out for any announcements or updates in the game's official channels or community forums. They often provide insights into new challenges and how to tackle them.
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>>501776135
>what does this new Nurgle event do?
it makes you LOVE gunluggin'
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>>501776260
There are rewards?
Let me guess its a portrait border or some shit?
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>>501776135
new mission modifier making some enemies explode on ranged kills and spamming slugs at you
finishing 10 missions with the modifier will give you a frame
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>>501774754
Ah, I see. Still though, the damage is pitiful, if it damages them at all. CC with stagger is good and all, but if it takes me 10 swings to kill something, thats not very handy.

>>501774840
>>501775695
I figured as much. Just maxed my Mastery with it and every match was a slog. Its a shame, thematically it is really fun, mechanically I'd just rather be using the Club or Cleaver.
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>>501776349
oh ok you were just pretending to be retarded
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>>501776567
nta
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>>501776349
You guessed it! The Nurgle event often includes special rewards like portrait borders, along with other unique items and cosmetics. It's always worth checking out the event details to see what specific challenges and rewards are available this time around.
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I can finally play darktide !
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>>501776818
good bot
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I met a Vermintide player IRL
I showed him the steam charts and he grabbed a nearby rat and fucked it to death before killing himself
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>501776824
Welcome to the party pal!
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>>501775048
Thanks to reddit, I learned that propaganda like this is everywhere, mod/admin positions are held by easily brainwashed normalfags who use it to push their political agenda

None of them is democratically elected and they will never, ever, meet any repercussions for all the questionable shit they're doing

They unironically have whole fucking systems set up to prevent different opinions from being seen, you get automatically shadowbanned for using keywords/phrases that they identify as questioning the narrative

It is literally pointless spending time arguing, getting facts, links, etc. not because sometimes people are dumb or whatever, but because the more you post / the longer your posts, the higher the possibility that it will just get filtered because the system will categorize it as wrongthink (easier than ever now with AI being used) and nobody will see your posts ever again, not even from new/alt accounts unless you go out of your way to hide your personal data, change your browser, use vpn, but then it will just see that you're epic anonymous poster suddenly wanting to share his wisdom and shadowban you right away

They could, UNIRONICALLY, make reddit a forum dedicated eating children and make it look like everyone approves and it's great for society if they wanted to.
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>>501776135
all enemies randomly have pink slug head, shoot them and they insta die but explode like mini barrels so be careful
horde has 100 more hp and new design
Beast of Nurgle spawn rate massively increased (like 6 per mission)
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>>501774230
Our Jannies are the best, aren't they. I spoke with one recently, amazing guy. Does all this work for FREE! Can you believe that? Amazing work ethic.
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>trannies outing themselves crying about some deviantard degen getting b&
Lol, lmao even
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>>501775048
>posts loli (is a degenerate)
>posts off-topic political opinions on sensitive subjects
clearly just a mentally ill troll. Good riddance.
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>>501778107
>posts off-topic political opinions
I dont see any mention of posting about it?
Would be weird to not include that.
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>>501775357
Same at 1700 hours.
I like the new poxwalker models. But since they don't explode when I'm close I pretty much never see them blow up. They might as well just be reskins. Hope to see more unit mutations that actually do things.
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>>501778386
idk how else he'd be open about it without posting about it...
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>>501778107
>>501778386
it was posted on his twitter not there, that's why it wasn't linked

janny just had a hate boner
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>>501778657
Thats the wording they use when they scroll down your twitter timeline and find a vague post from 2 years ago.
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>>501767657
What the fuck are you talking about it's just 30 seconds of ambient noise
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>>501778739
i'd hate people too if they kept spamming loli shit
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>>501778986
>removing his loli art
I see no mention of him posting said art himself either, only that art he made gets posted.
Ofc I have 0 details about any of those banalities, I just go by the wording.
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I thought reddit mods were all trans pedo, why are they banning loli stuff?
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>leveling heavy laspistol on vet
>decide to do a burn/crit build with deadshot
>hitting 50% crit chance easily
>having the most fun on vet I've ever had
>200k+ boss damage every nurgle run
>infinite ammo, incredibly accurate, good range
wtf I love this thing

For some reason the kantrael feels a lot worse than the accatan tho. The slow fire rate fucking kills it for me.
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>>501779543
you can easily achieve 100% crit rate with it
hell it's more than possible to go over 100%
las pistol is the #1 way to try and play gun-only
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>>501779543
>reassuringly accurate
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>>501778986
and yet he basically did nothing about him for 2+ years of him posting it, until he saw a twitter post mentioning muh russia, jannies gonna jan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>501779543
I don't mind the slower shooting one, but this thing can be PAIN to use when crits happen to not line up when fighting shooter packs unocassionally
>i also hate click spamming
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ahh here it is, i was having trouble finding where the fuck i see what i need to do for this event.
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>>501775048
>illegal invasion

lol
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>>501779809
Felt really daring with the objectives, didnt they?
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>>501780160
Don't laugh, it's a thing.
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>>501780212
Yes, but you wont find out until you know who won.
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>>501780182
better than book finding ...
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is this only triggered by allies in coherency or does it works even if they're fuckign far away from me?
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>>501781102
Doesn't need to be in coherency. It's very strong, if somewhat inconsistent.
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>>501781102
You play that shit with me and it finna be proccing all mafucking game cuz i be killing 50 niggas per second no cap
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>>501746681
>They should add the Bretonnian Longsword and the Bretonnian Sword & Shield to existing classes. Foot Knight already covers Grail Knight playstyle.
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>>501779747
Thanks, I'll give something like this a try.

>>501779750
Yeah, I like living. I'm currently on a dogshit leveling/penance build and can't rely on my melee weapon to properly carry me, so I've been crutching off of shout + grenades with some added survivability from reassuringly accurate. I've been using it to shoot trash with for the marksman's focus penance until recently. I'll swap it out now tho

>>501779787
I just shamelessly fucking cheat with the full auto mod to save me the effort of click spamming.
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>>501782820
>I just shamelessly fucking cheat with the full auto mod to save me the effort of click spamming.
based
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>>501784212
>>501782820
>clicker macro
medically advisable behavior
FUCK arthritis of the hands
FUCK carpal tunnel
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anyone for hard mode karnak twins? i dont wanna have to talk to people on the discord's voice chat
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>>501782771
Are you braindamaged? Grail Knight isn't analogous to SoB in any way whatsoever.

They added Bretonnian Longsword to all other Kruber careers and should have added his sword and shield as well. In fact this one restriction was so hated Fatshark sought to try to not design future weapons to be so class specific.
>Foot Knight already covers Grail Knight playstyle.
What the fuck. It doesn't. It's completely different from Foot Knight in playstyle. SoB meanwhile is just a pallette swap of a Zealot. Add SoB armor to paypigshop and that's all that needs to be done.

Crusaders actually would be a better equivalent to Grail Knight and a better case for their inclusion can be made. Melee only class with two melee weapons, shields and playstyle designed around slowly advancing towards enemies as opposed to rushing in fast. And even they got turned into fucking paypig outfit.
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>>501785267
server?
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Is there a reason why Kayex-8 speaks like a dimwit?
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>>501785802
he's vibing, let him be
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>>501785802
Robodementia
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>>501785664
>fatshit will never give us this class
>>501785802
He has autism
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The constant Beast of Nurgle spawns were cute for the first three missions but I'm getting really bored of them now. What a shit event.
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>>501785664
He's completely right and you're retarded. SoB and zealot are very different flavor
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>>501785897
3bh i wish they had chaos spawn in the mix, the beast and chaos ogre are boring HP tanks
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>>501785802
Probably some stupid regional dialect from wherever he's from originally. Also dementia and autism.

>>501785897
I'm having a ton of fun, just about every class can effectively deal astronomical damage to the fucking things. The only anti-monstrosity builds I don't like are on psyker, but I like bubble, and bubble is good safeguard against the barf.
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>>501785802
He's too based.
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Did fatshit increase the melee damage to beast of nurgle weakspot?
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>>501785664
>Fatshark sought to try to not design future weapons to be so class specific
lol what are you talking about, every DLC class except for outcast engineer had at least one class-exclusive weapon, with that design philosophy being carried over to shopclick as well
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>>501785802
He's translating from his native language.
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Bros... My big numbers are going to go away once the slug spam ends. So much damage dealt from TH.
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>>501785897
It's not about having fun, it's about forcing retards to finally learn the Beast of Nurgle's mechanics after ~2 years of them failing to figure things out on their own. Stop thinking of it as an event and start thinking of it as a retard education camp, and suddenly things make a lot more sense.
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>>501779747
this is also a build that does everything in its power to offset the cost of using Deadshot
>get 10% stamina back from every headshot kill
>get 30% stamina back every time you "dodge" a ranged attack, something that happens frequently while using Ghost
>stamina regen delay cut in half
and then you'd take Stamina and Stamina Regen on your curios and it would become basically free
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>>501785802
its annoying when you realize the mission could load instantly but delays until the speech finishes
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>>501785931
They have this same flavor. There isn't any difference. Everything from rushing into combat Repentia with Eviscerators to Flamer wielding Dominions to using miracles is already covered by Zealot. SoB as a class would be a ridiculous waste of a class slot.
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>>501786058
I like the plage ogryn, he's probably my favourite boss. He's always pursuing someone and staying in melee and fighting with a decent moveset free of bullshit and you can actually go toe to toe with him, dodge his attacks, counterattack and it's all fun and games. All you need is for the rest of the team to make space and you can solo him with any weapon and any class, provided you know what you're doing. It rewards skill.
The worm is the worst, bullshit attack, bullshit slowdown, fuck huge taking so way too much space, free bullshit corruption slime everywhere, stupid barf with stupid range, stupid swallowing attack (learned from OP's mum), bullshit tail hitbox... Worst boss by far.
The chaos spawn in between, bullshit moveset but lower HP so everyone just magdumps it and it's dead. Boring but not too aggravating.
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>>501785897
>>501786553
Yeah, people are dabbing on beasts as soon as they spawn right now
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>>501785664
>we don't need sister of battle, it already overlaps with zealot, obviously, all you need to do is add a SoB cosmetic
>btw I think Crusaders are a great choice, as they somehow don't overlap at all, despite the crusader cosmetics already being in game on zealot
I can't...the retarded level of doublethink required to believe SoB is "JUST NOT POSSIBLE," it's too much...
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>>501786903
You are just a beyond retard
zealot preachers are nothing like SoB. That's like comparing fantasy zealots and warrior priests
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We need enforcers, not SoBs
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>we can't have sister of battle, it overlaps too much with zealot!
>he genuinely believes we aren't going to get 5 different flavors of "guy with gun" that overlaps so severely with veteran it outright replaces him
>he genuinely believes they won't just make a new psyker with force swords and staves that are a straight upgrade
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>>501786553
>go to whack a Nurgle with my TH
>retarded Psyker teammate keeps slapping it for 0 damage, causing it to do its tail wag and send me away
>another instance
>behind Nurgle, trying to whack it
>retarded teammate has its aggro and keeps RUNNING AWAY FROM IT causing it to endlessly chase him around the fucking area preventing me from hitting it
they'll never learn
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>>501788226
>playing infernus+dumdum recon vet
>position myself behind the beast, tag it for bonus damage, ready to unload 180 laser beams directly into its weakspot
>guy with aggro runs past beast TOWARDS me, making it face in my direction
>just to top it off, guy gets vored as he zips past the beast
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>>501787987
>>he genuinely believes we aren't going to get
Yep.
No content, ever.
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>>501788679
I think shitters just assume Nurgle's can vore you if they get close, so their first instinct is to just flee like a retard.
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>>501789037
I've seen auric players who didn't know the beast can only eat you if you're drenched in its bile. Astounding how some players seem to have simply deactivated the learning functions of their brains.
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Not gonna lie rashad felt better than the heavy sword so far
Guess I need to adjust more to it
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>>501790028
Rashad chads dab and whip and nae nae on swordcels
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>>501790108
And I dont fucking get it because when I tried rashad (one whole match) it did some obscene damage while it felt like I am doing nothing
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>>501790279
Because the brutal momentum making hordes of enemies drop dead without the proper feedback to the player
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>>501785802
dude installed a marijuana dispenser into what remains of his biological systems
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>>501790028
overall i think it is better, rashad's got just enough cleave to keep up and otherwise outpaces heavy sword in pretty much every way besides the rare five ragers in a row scenario
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>>501790108
Rachads and Heavybros are NOT enemies, anon. We share a common bond of being shit on for most of the game's life so far, only to start shining relatively recently.
Chadachan parryGODs can come too.
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Scoreboard mod was a fucking mistake
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>>501790762
>only to start shining relatively recently.
Uhhh, anyon? The heavy sword and the antax were the meta back in the day with the rashad not being far behind the antax
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What's a good build for veteran if I love playing gunlugger and I'm good at it?
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>>501790894
>The heavy sword and the antax were the meta back in the day
Antax had like a month of popularity before it fell into obscurity, and heavy sword was only popular for a short time after the talent tree rework before being overshadowed. If you'll recall, the Rachad was particularly maligned for its tendency to prioritize bodyshot damage over headshots. None of them were popular.
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>>501791010
>if I love playing gunlugger
uninstall wizard
>I'm good at it
it's like saying you're good at pooping, no you're not, everyone can poop
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>>501791010
Stealth vet with recon or marksman focus vet with recon
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>>501791294
>Antax had like a month of popularity before it fell into obscurity
It's true that the rashad was bad at hitting weakspots, so i guess that one really did used to suck
>and heavy sword was only popular for a short time after the talent tree rework before being overshadowed
But before that it was one of the most popular zealot melee weapons, the eviscerators just got buffed and overshadowed the heavy swords
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>>501791469
Not him but I'm very good at pooping.
I poop two or three times a day. Very good at it.
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>>501791976
That ain't good. If you poop proper then you only need to do it once
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fuck
heavy
sword
just fuck it
i am pissed off now
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>>501792138
In your whole life?
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>>501791294
>Antax had like a month of popularity before it fell into obscurity
You are heavily misremembering. Antax was literally the most meta melee weapon other than the Power Sword before the class update a year ago, everybody was using it on all 3 classes.
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>>501792214
Yep. I'll do my first poo sometime in 2035 and then i'm never pooping again
>>501792280
Yeah, he's misremembering. The antax was among the most popular melee weapons in the game. It's also what vets used while they were waiting for a good powrer sword
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>>501792203
>one of the best melee weapons SUX!
what did the based heavy sword do to you?
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>>501792280
>>501792737
Like I said, it was popular for a short time. Antax was not popular in the long term--none of the axes were, as they originally fell off heavily on higher difficulties with denser hordes. They were serviceable with BM, but there were always multiple better options for every class.
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>>501792987
You are simply wrong or didn't play during that time period.
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>>501792987
>they originally fell off heavily on higher difficulties with denser hordes.
When was the brutal momentum buff? That made them perform very well in any difficulty
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>>501793089
Are you denying the prevalence of combat blades, eviscerators (though they weren't actually that great), power swords, and dueling swords? All were significantly more popular than the axes.
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>zealot with knife
Will most likely have mediocre damage
>zealot with rashad
Will most likely have high damage

The jury is still out on the saber
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>>501793407
>combat blade
sucked and nobody used them before the weapon buffs alongside the class buffs
>eviscerator
sucked and didn't exist past Heresy
>power sword
The only weapon arguably more popular than the Antax, even then a lot of Vets chose to run combat axe and obviously Zealots and Psykers had no PS
>dueling sword
lmao, literally NOBODY used the dueling sword even more than your other examples, they were some of the worst weapons in the game before they got buffed to godlike status with the class update a year ago. I assure you with no malice that you are misremembering that time period.
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>>501792138
You can't improve at pooping by doing it only once, you have to train constantly in order to keep improving.
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>>501793407
you didnt play at launch did you? or for the first year or so of the game at that
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>>501793948
>You can't improve at pooping by doing it only once
I do simulated pooping for 6 hours every day so when the day does come, i willbe more than ready for the task
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>>501794051
Only training the bottom 12 inches or so of your lower intestine isn't going to deliver results, and is, if anything, more likely to make you lose bowel control on that crucial day.
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>>501793948
Competitive pooping isnt about repetition, you only tire out your muscles and shave years off your career.
Its about technique and knowledge.
The right diet.
Pulling up the knees to achieve the biomechanics of the natural squat.
Putting a oily lotion on your butt for the perfect no wipe.
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>>501770768
Probably never
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>>501793758
Heavy sword is typically gonna get you fuckhuge "damage dealt" numbers because it just butchers hordes, maniacs, and pretty much anything else that might be unarmored.
>>501793847
>combat blades sucked and nobody used them
Agree they sucked, disagreed nobody used them. You're forgetting that very few people were consistently winning damnation runs at launch.
>eviscerator sucked and didn't exist past Heresy
See above. It sucked, yes, but people still ran it.
>power sword
The fact that you describe it as "arguably" more popular is genuinely funny. Vet's melee options on launch were "power sword" or "placeholder because I don't have a power sword yet"
>>501793847
>literally NOBODY used the dueling sword
Not quite true, but I'll give you that they're the most tenuous example I gave. Psykers in general were shit at melee so anything they ran was really just to fill the slot.
>>501793983
>you didnt play at launch did you?
Sadly, I did. Pic related. Also played the betas, though that isn't really very relevant.
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>trying to get the fucking shitty weapons specialist penance with helbore
>3 revolver ziggers in a row stealing my kills the instant I release my charged shot
>literally stole 20+ kills out from under my nose over the course of 3 games
Kill all ziggers I fucking hate ziggers total zigger genocide
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>>501792842
I dont get it yet so I am fuckmad
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>>501795031
>trying to get the fucking shitty weapons specialist penance with helbore
Thats wrong mate
You just forget about this penance completely and play the game normally because weapon specialist is most fun and cool vet keystone
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>>501795159
It really helps to take any attack speed talents available to your class to make the Heavy Sword feel good. It feels the most natural on Zealot obviously, it's not bad on Vet and I don't like it on Psyker.
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>>501795451
>weapon specialist is most fun and cool vet keystone
Don't care. Still dropping all keystones in favor of grenades
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IM GONNA
IM GONNA
IM GONNA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGGG
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>>501788226
Trying to TH the Beast tests the fuck out of my patience, especially doing it with Stealth. Swapped over to Vet after 8 or 9 games and just started playing Recon Las or Bolter.
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>>501795031
Zamn zude zhy zou zutting z's zt zhe ztart zf zvery zord?
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>>501790762
>We share a common bond of being shit on for most of the game's life so far
What the fuck are you on about? The Rashad/Antax have been S tier the whole fucking time (only getting worse when FS nerfed maniac damage on them for a patch or two), and Heavy Sword has never left A.
t. Has been using both since launch.
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>>501796018
>Rashad/Antax have been S tier the whole fucking time
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>>501796018
True. He switched the goalpost to say they weren't popular
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Yo, is someone where disrespecting my rashad axe?
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>>501796236
Saw that. What a spazz
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>>501796236
>He switched the goalpost to say they weren't popular
I did no such thing lol, They were not popular outside of a very short window as I said at the start. I did not say they were NEVER popular:
>>501791294
>had like a month of popularity before it fell into obscurity
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>>501794526
well we're both operating on anecdotal evidence at best. personally i used the combat axe and saw others using it very often in the earlier days.
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I used the antax in the beginning
Now i use the rashad

I was always team combat axe
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Here they are
The /vg/ approved zealot builds
>where is MY favorite weapon combo?
It wasn't approved
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>>501787709
Crusaders don't overlap at all and none of Zealots skill trees reflect their melee only gameplay with their weapons of choice not being in game.
Unlike like with SoB
>>501787790
They explicitly are exactly like SoB.
>>501787987
We won't. It took Fatshark ridiculous amount of time to even add 5 Careers to VT2. New Archetypes are even more problematic to add when you now need to have 6 VAs per character in Darktide and then record their dialogue with all those other VAs.
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>>501797616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV2XXdqfn1I
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>>501797876
If darktide ever starts getting new content then it's gonna be because of people like me who fund the studio
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>>501796614
The point was that popularity doesn't fucking matter at all. It has no bearing on what you bring into a match, and just because the average, 30iq drooling retard doesn't realize something is amazing doesn't make it anything but. Nobody ever really talks shit about the Combat Axe (3rd variant notwithstanding) or Heavy Sword except maybe to call the Combat Axe a crutch, and the few times I've seen someone here try to say the Heavy Sword is bad, they pretty much always get shit on. Whenever someone posts some youtuber's tier list here, the weapons are pretty much always placed high. So the only inference to make from your statement here:
>We share a common bond of being shit on for most of the game's life so far, only to start shining relatively recently.
is that you think the weapons themselves were not good, which is why we've been telling you that's wrong because there's no other way your statement could have possibly made sense.
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>>501797616
What does the MK6 shootgun do again?
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>>501796906
I've followed the same path, but I'm considering swapping back to Antax. Rashad's push attack sucks in comparison.
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>>501798406
>you think the weapons themselves were not good
I didn't say that, though I can see how you might have interpreted it that way. When I say they "started shining relatively recently" I'm not saying they only started to be good recently--just that they only started to be more broadly recognized as good.
I will, however, state that the Rashad was shit on launch. And this is speaking as someone who ran it as their main weapon and defended it in these very threads at the time, even as the hit priority shenanigans started to get exposed.
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>>501798642
Wide shot special, middke damage, middle spread
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>>501796906
I was looking down on combat axes but after trying rashad ONCE last week on zealot I got hooked
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>>501797616
>ds 4
>recon 12
You like children in a very sexual way and you know it
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>>501798712
The rashad is faster and does more damage. Push attacks good enough
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>>501798885
Right, that's why I said nobody was actually "shitting on" them (unless you're talking about steam forums, FS forums, or reddit or something), so the statement made no sense that way. Hence, we all assumed you were talking about the weapons' performance instead.
>I will, however, state that the Rashad was shit on launch
OH! That is true. I completely forgot about that. The thing was broken and couldn't headshot for months kek. It was obvious after 2 minutes in the meat grinder, but somehow there were still idiots who swore by Rashad before it got fixed. I'm convinced they were baiting. The Antax was still acknowledged as one of the most ubiquitous & powerful weapon options by anyone not chugging paint by the truckload.
> they only started to be more broadly recognized as good.
This I haven't noticed. They seem about as popular as they've always been to me. Although I see fewer PS Vets these days, so the Combat Axe probably does see more use from Vets.
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Recon Lasgun Accatran Mk XIV is the gigachads choice while the Mk XII is the "I only get my builds from youtubers" pick
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>>501799726
>Recon Lasgun Accatran Mk XIV
What is the thing with this one, anon?
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>>501799798
It's the contrarian retard's choice
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>>501797616
>combat shotgun
>ack-tran
>eviscerator
please, stay out of my aurics
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>>501799798
pierces trough ennemies
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>>501799539
Push attack doesn't kill things and is an unsatisfying slap.
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>>501799340
It's just so satisfying to CHOPCHOPCHOP heavy enemies. You can really feel the enemy's health getting chunked with each swing.
>>501799615
>unless you're talking about steam forums, FS forums, or reddit or something
I found pretty much every non-coopg forum to be pretty dismissive of them from the start. I think it's because they required some modicum of target prioritization that alternative weapons didn't, which filtered the casual players.
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>>501799859
You might struggle using those in aurics but good players don't
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>>501799869
>pierces trough
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>>501799953
>I found pretty much every non-coopg forum to be pretty dismissive of them from the start
Oh lmao. I can't say that's surprising. I only come here. 4chan generals tend to have the least percentage of dumb shitters, and I can call people retarded faggots instead of having to hugbox people for voicing their awful, 12-hours-played opinions.
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>>501800409
>4chan generals tend to have the least percentage of dumb shitters
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>>501800551
He's right, though. The average /coopg/ poster is so far above the average player from literally any other vidya forum that you can't even compare them.
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>>501799859
All usable in auric QP. The Eviscerator's a bitch to use vs Crusher packs once you use your FOTFs and makes me mad when I saw into a Bulwark's back and fail to kill it, but it's otherwise fine. Combat Shotgun is meh, not terrible. And the Recon Las lets you both deal with specials at any range and take on Rager packs solo. Hardly a bad pick, even on Zealot. And if you run it with Infernus, it's decent boss damage in case of slugs or strange scenarios where you'd need to shoot the boss.
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>>501800551
Just look at how toonktards, smiggers, smoke grenadecels and stealth vets get shidded on here. On r*ddit and on forums they can get away with recommending that shit
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>>501800669
I used the combat shotgun with throwing knives because together they are good enough for specials and killing hordes with the saber is boring as fuck but shotgunning hordes is very fun
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>>501800551
Yes? Obviously we're not perfect. I'm just saying that comparatively, there aren't that many horrendously objectionable opinions posted, and a decent portion of the people posting terrible takes are baiting. We get an influx of dumbassery around major patches (like the latest crafting revamp), but it's usually not that bad, and you then see a number of anons shit on them for saying something dumb anyway.
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I don't want a new update, I don't want the faggot posting nigger-chan to come back and shot on the thread for 2 weeks
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>>501794417
>Putting a oily lotion on your butt for the perfect no wipe.
eat a salad fatty
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>>501800409
>>501800551
>>501800647
>>501800771
I do think the average /vg/ poster is, on average, better than the average pug idiot, if only through osmosis of getting a vague understanding of what's good and what isn't.
It's just that we're also more likely to be extremely autistic, and the bad ones are unrivaled in their retardation to the point of comedy.

Unrelated, does veteran's +50% aura radius apply to the range at which shout buffs allies?
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>>501801561
>does veteran's +50% aura radius apply to the range at which shout buffs allies
Speaking entirely out of my ass here, but I would assume any effect that applies to your aura also has its range boosted in accordance with the size of your aura. Which would mean yes, shout's buff range should be larger.
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call me a mayfly one more goddamn time and i will fuck you like a pig
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>>501801846
This guy fucks pigs.
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>>501801561
>does veteran's +50% aura radius apply to the range at which shout buffs allies?
Nope. They've got nothing to do with each other.
It even specifies in the description that shout is 9 meters, coherency is 8m, they aren't even the same.
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>>501791010
Assuming you're playing like a proper lad and meleeing until you need the gun, play bolter with exec stance.
If you're a raging retard who absolutely needs to hold the trigger down at all times, play recon las with shock trooper and shout.
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>>501802149
Thanks, what a fucking useless node
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>>501801940
i dont know about you anon but im a man of my word
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>>501795857
Thunder Hammer Perfectionist combo is hard. You get a small-ass 3 second window, anything goes wrong and it's gone for 45 seconds. Very easy to do in the Meat Grinder when enemies just stand still, but in a real game, you have
>stupid slug won't stop chasing your retard teammates, and even with SC you can't catch the fucking thing
>stupid slug randomly whacks its tail, throwing you a gorillion feet away
>Director spawns bomber+flamer immediately 10 feet from you and they start spamming around the boss
>hitbox jank because Swedish servers are complete shit and programming is complete shit (hitting a backstab headshot is honestly just a roll of the dice usually)
>boss randomly changes aggro and 180's his direction in half a second
It is extremely satisfying when you pull it off though.
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>>501802149
>>501802215
The main VOC node says that, but the subnode that gives gold toughness says "also provides you and allies in coherency". So logically, it should work with VOC, but it's Fatshark, and their talent descriptions are wrong all the time. (Thy Wrath Be Swift 2 years later lmao)

>>501802346
My favorite is:
>slug a foot or two away from you starts moving parallel to you but manages to stagger you out of your charge that's just about to smack its weakspot because of an overlarge foot hitbox or something
>watching the perfectionist+charge heavy swing come down onto its weakspot only to phase right through because fuck you
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>>501802528
I see.
Can I spawn bots on the meat grinder to test this?
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>>501802721
I know there is a way to do that, but I don't know with what mod. I'm not sure you can actually tell them to sit on their ass and not follow you around either. You'd have to get them in combat with something and hope they don't break off before you're far enough away to test.
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>>501802803
Eh... Too much work.
If someone else figures it out, do tell me. Or don't, I can't force you.
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>>501797616
>No Chaxe IV
>No Heavy Sword
>No Crucis
>No Crusher
>No Knife
>No Flamer
>No Bolt Pistol
>No Revolver
You are no longer approved. Turn in your Zealot card immediately and receive 10 spanks on the rear to cleanse the sin of omission from your soul. You will be up for re-approval in 1 weeks time, I suggest you use that time wisely.

The Council of Zealots has spoken.
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I just need a black or metal skin for my rashad and I will be a happy piggy
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>>501802926
Yeah, and it's really not worth bothering with even if it does work. Coherency chains, so you can get some decent range with it without the talent, and if you're with a faggot team that can't hang around one another, not getting gold toughness is their just dessert. Vet has too many powerful nodes to take them all already, and you're sure as fuck not dropping CK for that thing.
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>Disable hit markers
>Suddenly game becomes much more immersive and I'm landing full auto fire much more reliably now that I can actually see the target I'm shooting at
If only the game had hit and crit sounds so I could have the best of both worlds
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behold the majesty
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The zealot helmet that changes the voice doesn't seem to actually.
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>>501803025
>>No Chaxe IV
The combat axe is my chaxe
>>No Heavy Sword
The eviscerator is my heavy sword
>>No Crucis
Eviscerator
>>No Crusher
Alright single target but terrible horde clear. I can't just recommend any old weapon
>>No Knife
The saber is my knife
>>No Flamer
The shotgun is my flamer
>>No Bolt Pistol
>>No Revolver
Automatic guns such as the recon or columnus aig are almost always better picks

If you need martyr to make a weapon good, then it ain't good
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https://files.catbox.moe/lobhkr.webm
>xbot begging for his life with 3 gunners shooting at him and 2 shooting at me
>xbot doesn't realize I'm waiting for shout and the gunners to stop firing
>ogryn LOOOOGER has both thumbs up his own ass
>it was only a regular damnation game and both of them were completely unprepared
Man I don't think I'm ready for the snoys, but at least this was pretty fucking funny.
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>>501803851
>If you need martyr to make a weapon good
>he says while touting the Eviscerator, one of the weapons which most benefits from Martyr
kek
The Evi and Chain Axe are the main Martyr weapons. It really helps their breakpoints, and you can slap Shred on Evi to still get Invocation of Death's CDR without running BP.
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>>501804032
>>he says while touting the Eviscerator, one of the weapons which most benefits from Martyr
All weapons are better with martyr, that's why people use martyr to make mediocre weapons perform well
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>>501803995
I'm starting to wonder if the snoy release will even be that big of a deal. We had a giant influx of xbabs because the game was on Game Pass as soon as the console port launched, are snoys getting a deal like that?
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>darktide
yawn
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>>501804450
They better not, the free rimming xbots got was a PR disaster.
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>>501803851
>The combat axe is my chaxe
It's not a chaxe
>The eviscerator is my heavy sword
It's not a heavy sword
>Eviscerator
It's not a thunder hammer
>The saber is my knife
It's not a knife
>The shotgun is my flamer
It's not a flamer
>Automatic guns such as the recon or columnus aig are almost always better picks
Both wrong and they are not a Bolt Pistol or Revolver

No one said martyr was needed to make any of those weapons good. Next week I expect your opinions to turn around young lady.
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>>501804470
>yawn
Yawn
(It's infectious)
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>>501804638
I unironically yawned reading these
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>>501804621
>>The combat axe is my chaxe
>It's not a chaxe
It's close enough, even the saber is a chaxe
>>The eviscerator is my heavy sword
>It's not a heavy sword
It's close enough, but better
>>Eviscerator
>It's not a thunder hammer
It's close enough, but better in most cases
>>The saber is my knife
>It's not a knife
It's close enough, but often better and way more comfy to use
>>The shotgun is my flamer
>It's not a flamer
It's close enough, but better in the cases that matter
>>Automatic guns such as the recon or columnus aig are almost always better picks
>Both wrong and they are not a Bolt Pistol or Revolver
I have used the revolver and bolt pistol a lot and i always wish i was using a recon or columnus, never the other way around

I am used to being ahead of my time, i can wait
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>>501804175
>All weapons are better with martyr
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying and doesn't negate how ironic it is for you to be shitting on Martyr (or weapons that you think "need" it to be good) while talking up one of the main weapons that actually wants it. Only the Chain Axe gets bigger benefits as far as I'm aware.
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>>501804808
>>501804638
darktide more like YAWNtide amirite fellas
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>>501797616
>make all sorts of builds with corresponding outfits
>never use any that don't incorporate a revolver
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>>501805365
Im glad shopclick sucks.
Made me try ratclick.
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>>501805305
The alternative is the crit build
The eviscerator, rashad and saber is excellent with the crit build. The ripper, crusher and thunder hammer are meh without martyr
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>>501797665
It's this simple
>zealot already has crusader cosmetics
>a crusader is an any gender human who is extremely devout who primarily uses a sword and shield, only descriptor given
>give zealot sword and board
>done, crusader is in the game
whereas
>BRO JUST PUT SORORITAS COSMETICS IN
>except they'll have to be male shaped, like all cosmetics, and the clumsily reformed to fit a """female figure,""" and then you've got literal misters of battle running around
>alternatively, make a class with a gender lock
>now you actually have sororitas
just admit you have some sort of anti-gooner agenda and get it over with already, instead of pretending like your line of thinking actually makes sense
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>>501797616
Thunder Hammer is canonically THE Zealot's weapon. Pure testosterone canon sovl.
Dueling Sword is a Smigger's used goods, a reddit weapon crutch designed for them to play the game on just a fraction of our level.
We are not the same.
Your Zealot is also not edgy enough (looks like a twink). You are NOT a true Zealot main.
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>>501806014
Such is a rat's life.
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>>501806136
>Thunder Hammer is canonically THE Zealot's weapon. Pure testosterone canon sovl.
Only second to the superior eviscerator
>Dueling Sword is a Smigger's used goods, a reddit weapon crutch designed for them to play the game on just a fraction of our level.
And is much better in the hands of a zealot and allows for funny pirate aesthetics
>Your Zealot is also not edgy enough (looks like a twink). You are NOT a true Zealot main.
She's a female
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>>501801561
>and the bad ones are unrivaled in their retardation to the point of comedy.
Yeah there's like no middleground with /coopg/ gamers I have noticed this. It's either actual good player or it's dunning kruger retard
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>>501805685
>The alternative is the crit build
All BP does for Eviscerator (assuming you run Shred on it) is proc Perfect Strike more. Otherwise, you have Shred and Scourge, which is plenty for IOD and EF. Martyr gives you more attack speed, even more toughness DR, and some breakpoints vs tougher elites on a weapon with a gimmick that locks you in place to kill armor, meaning those breakpoints really fucking matter.

>ripper
The what? Is that the Chain Axe?
>Crusher
I rarely use it, and I've always paired it with IJ. I never cared enough to test breakpoints on it. You may very well be right there.
>TH
Doesn't really need the damage bonus from Martyr, but I run Thrust on mine. Maybe people speccing specifically for monster mash maelstrom or HT+Slaughterer people still want Martyr. Most of what you get with a Thrust Crucis that you don't get from BP is the attack speed, but you can get that attack speed (and much more) by running BP on the TH and spamming FOTF. Anon earlier ITT was at least partially right.
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>>501806136
Crit zealot has been and remains the one true build. Hammer copers are loogerbrained.
>woah I can push one button and delete a monstrosity, i'm literally the protagonist of the team
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>>501806287
gnarly
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https://youtu.be/DkSyCEgMdAs

Cute.
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>>501799859
Fire shotgun is great. It's like a weaker revolver with more ammo, cleave, and spread. the fire round is okay, but a bit slow.
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>use Eviscerator
>run into group of armored elites or rager spam
>cry because the thing is not cut out for these situations
If only the Mk XV had better cleave on its lights so that you could abuse the rager stunlock it applies.
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>>501806348
>She's a female
don't care, give her some scars.
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>>501806441
>All BP does for Eviscerator (assuming you run Shred on it) is proc Perfect Strike more. Otherwise, you have Shred and Scourge, which is plenty for IOD and EF. Martyr gives you more attack speed, even more toughness DR, and some breakpoints vs tougher elites on a weapon with a gimmick that locks you in place to kill armor, meaning those breakpoints really fucking matter
Why am i arguing? You agree with my eviscerator pick
>ripper
I meant the chaxe. Not sure why i called it the ripper
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>>501806702
https://youtu.be/DkSyCEgMdAs?t=204
What's whith Tranner and dogs?
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>>501806702
This makes me happy.
I hope they end up dating
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>>501806960
>You agree with my eviscerator pick
I don't care about what weapons you think are more zealot than other weapons.
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>>501806831
She has a big scar on her face
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>>501806702
why is he such a submissive little cocksucker the moment someone confronts him?
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>>501806961
Relatable moment tbqhwyfam. Weapon swap -> push in this game is dog shit when trying to go from ranged to melee. I grabbed a mod to force weapon swaps because this shit kept happening. That's not even something I'd necessarily blame him for.
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>>501807079
I never said those were the zealotest weapons. Is that what you were arguing against this whole time?
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>>501807197
>Called Mr E dogshit
>Mr E was like nah
>Tanner was like prove it
>Mr E proved he wasn't dogshit
>Tanner and him bonded and became friends
Tanner understands how male bonding works better than you apparently.
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>>501807197
>>501807372
will you bond too? plz post sextapes
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>>501807372
*male boning
Ftfy
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>>501807372
lol tranner you faggot. Mr E is a DICKRIDER looking for youslop views.
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>>501807338
No, you retard. I just don't know what else you could actually think I was agreeing with you on since you bitched about Martyr-dependent weapons while praising Evi in the same exact post.
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>>501807479
I can bond with anyone, it's one of my special talents. It's in anons lap if he wants to bond with me.
>>501807490
We can only hope.
>>501807537
Mr E is simply a silly boy
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can love bloom on youtube?
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>>501807543
Simple, the eviscerator is good even without martyr whereas the others aren't
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in darktide civilization we always take smite
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>>501807735
Yes. It's extra romantic to have people wondering if you will get together or not.
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>>501807754
So we still don't agree since nothing is bad without Martyr anyway. Congrats.
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>>501807908
the new steam recording feature?
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i did it haha :)

>>501807990
no xir just plain old geforce sexperience :)
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>>501807971
Hey, if you wanna be wrong then don't let me stop you
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>>501808195
not an argument
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>>501808195
>>501808226
have sex
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>>501808296
i accept your concession
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call me tranner one more goddamn time and i will fuck you like a pig
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>>501808574
*SQUEEEEEEEEEEEAL*
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please reply to my posts i work very hard on them
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>>501808574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBfGQJhDT8
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>>501807971
>>501808226
>since nothing is bad without Martyr anyway
Some weapons are better than others. I am not going to remake my picture with every single weapon of every variant included just to avoid offending certain people
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>>501808694
is that the dude’s belly or is that shopped
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>>501806746
That's why the Emperor invented Perfect Strike
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>>501808923
He's fat and ugly as fuck irl
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>>501809012
can the emperor invent a new class
or just any content really
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>>501809058
can i get a fact check on this
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>>501809012
I don't like it. My damage output is lower if i use it instead of rampage or shred
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>>501809061
skitarri coming soon
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>>501809061
sorry, too immeasurably complex
you'll take your third rinda karnak fight and like it
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>>501809178
Snopes, the washington post and CNN have all confirmed this to be true
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>>501809253
>>501809245
man when versus comes out the darksloppers are gonna FREAK
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>>501809356
>CNN
come now anon let’s be serious
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>>501808694
>that greasy unkept hair
holy fuck, imagine the smell
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You fags give Tanner so much shit but what have you created lately? How have you helped the community? I would bet real money not a single one of you sweatlord incels could even come CLOSE his level of skill. It’s fucking pathetic.
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>>501808694
>so fat his thigh highs are receding
kek
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>>501810140
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>>501810287
gonna cry again because le evil /coopg/ was mean to you, Tranner? plz don't delete the video this time.
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>>501810287
>How have you helped the community?
Irrelevant. He hasn't helped either
>not a single one of you sweatlord incels could even come CLOSE his level of skill
He's not skilled
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>>501810607
more skilled than you mohammed
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>>501810287
I wish people wouldn't be so mean to him.
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>>501810287
>"""community"""
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that sure is a lot of hidden posts, I'm sure they're discussing something totally worthwhile
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>>501810680
Every poster here is better than him
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>>501810880
proof?
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>>501808905
>Some weapons are better than others.
Really? Damn. I've only said as much already. Stop moving the fucking goalposts. You acted like there were weapons that needed Martyr to be good, and after being categorically told that is not the case, you've backtracked to this milquetoast shit that I've already stated myself. Be less of a faggot.
If you're not the same guy, then sorry.
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>>501810686
You think he's bad on video? Imagine how malicious he is as an anymous poster

He deserves this and even more
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>>501811006
I'm every poster in this general and I'm better than him
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>>501811074
sorry anon but I am not convinced
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>>501811074
I am convinced
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>>501811019
Sorry, you're just such a drooling mongolid sperg that it's hard to pinpoint the source of your tantrum

Yes, some weapons do shit damage without martyr and decent damage with martyr

Some weapons do very good damage without martyr and very good or even better damage with martyr

I am focused on the second category when i determine which weapons are better
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>>501811470
reddit spacing
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>>501811470
>reddit spacing
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>>501811584
>>501811662
Gotta keep it readable for retards like him
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>>501811470
>continues to reiterate things I already said earlier
lmao
You are actually illiterate. Good job. The Eviscerator is still one of the ones that benefits far more from Martyr than others.

>>501811703
You're really loading up on the iron content today, pal.
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>>501811703
>retard
pot calling the kettle blacked, hmm?
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>>501810287
if he didn't turn his darktide discord server into another LFG troon fest, I'd prob give him an easier time
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>>501812064
troons are like weebs, they invade and infest everything nice
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>>501812161
>he says while posting on the website made for weebs
kek
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>>501811662
this is reddit spacing

not this ya goober
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>>501812293
shut the fuck up
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>>501811794
>The Eviscerator is still one of the ones that benefits far more from Martyr than others.
The eviscerator doesn't need it to do good damage>>501803851
>If you need martyr to make a weapon good, then it ain't good

This what i posted, but you are too retarded and obtuse to get it. Just admit that you got it wrong and that you made a mistake by entering into this doomed argument of yours
>>501811943
Nope. Just calling a retard a retard
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>>501812412
jokes on you anon we’re all retarded here
only a retard would think otherwise
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>>501812685
Yeah, i'm retarded, too bad that other retard is too retarded to know how retarded he is
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>>501811794
>>501812412
post scoreboards
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>>501813286
>he fell for the scoreboard meme
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>>501797665
just reuse the same characters and voicelines
>that's lazy
yeah
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>>501813468
so you have nothing to back up your claims? gotcha
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>>501812412
>some weapons need martyr to be good
>no, some weapons are just better with it than without
>no, some weapons do need martyr to be good
You just can't help yourself, can you? Actual dementia patient.
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>>501813286
Crit rashad and columnus
>>501813732
>some weapons aren't good without it
>some weapons are good without it but might be more good without it
This is what i said. I hope you are ESL, because an actual english speaking adult shouldn't be this stupid
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>>501813923
Nigger, I'm the one who has repeatedly said that some stuff performs better with Martyr than others. Nothing needs Martyr to perform well. You're the one who's said/implied that. Of the ones that benefit most from it, Eviscerator is second (maybe third with Crusher). You flip-flop your argument depending on what I post, going between "blah blah blah is trash without Martyr" (which is never true, even the Chaxe performs well without it) to "Well obviously some stuff is better with it than others" (which is exactly what I first told you). It's not my fault you can't keep track of your own argument that shifts more frequently than the sands in the middle east, your homeland.
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>>501787790
I dont see it
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>>501813923
t.esl
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>>501814154
>Nothing needs Martyr to perform well.
And that is wrong. If you need 8 stacks of martyr throughout an entire mission with a certain weapon to keep up the same damage as you do with a regular crit rashad or evis build then that weapon is just not that strong and is included in my category of weapons that need martyr to be good, AKA need martyr to perform like a good weapon
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>waves of specialists
Can they really not make modifiers that aren't just
>dude special spam lmao
Swear to fucking god this shit is every QP I land in and part of every Maelstrom that's up when I'm looking.
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>>501800551
At least here I can call out smiggers for being utterly worthless drivel.
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>>501814885
>Can they really not make modifiers that aren't just
>>dude special spam lmao
This is how you got poxgas
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>>501814825
>Nothing needs Martyr to perform well
>If you need 8 stacks of martyr throughout an entire mission with a certain weapon to keep up the same damage as you do with a regular crit rashad or evis build
so that means the weapons do perform well enough without martyrdom
>then that weapon is just not that strong and is included in my category of weapons that need martyr to be good, AKA need martyr to perform like a good weapon
so dont perform well enough without martyrdom
you really are this retarded. you cannot recognize that these statements directly contradict each other in the same sentence, esl-kun
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>>501815248
You obviously have no idea what you are reading

Anons, any recommendations on how to deal with a genuine fullblown retard lile him? He thinks
>if a weapon doesn't perform well without martyr
Means
>the weapon performs well without martyr
I am at a loss. I don't have the training to wrangle adults with actual developmental issues
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>>501815553
tell him to post scoreboard
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>>>>>8 stacks of martyr
mfw
>And that is wrong
FINALLY you come to a disagreement directly with something I've actually said. I don't agree with you though. I have never needed to lower my HP with the Chain Axe (which I hope we can at least agree is the primary beneficiary of Martyrdom) in order to kill stuff well. It gets MUCH better with it, but it's by no means necessary. The Chaxe already does very good damage without Martyr. You've clearly not used it if you believe otherwise. Go into the Meat Grinder. You get better anti-armor than the Eviscerator but in turn aren't as expedient at killing weaker elites because of the way the lights compare. They're effectively sidegrades. The Eviscerator is just easier to use because you simply need to mash lights 97% of the game.
>but muh Combat Axe and Eviscerator match performance
You get huge numbers with the Chain Axe. And why even bring up the Combat Axe?
>if your weapon isn't fucking S tier, it's bad
lmao
Sounds like metacuckery. Something not being inarguably one of the best weapons isn't the same as being trash.
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>>501815553
>If you need 8 stacks of martyr throughout an entire mission with a certain weapon to keep up the same damage as you do with a regular crit rashad or evis build
>to keep up the same damage as you do with a regular crit rashad or evis build
>with a regular crit rashad or evis build
>keep up
>regular
esl-kun
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>>501815085
Shit you're right
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why cant they add like a bloodletter or plaguebearer boss. just fucking do it.
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>>501815730
I doubt he's gonna do that. No one who's this retarded can actually play the game. I wouldn't be surprised if doesn't even have the scoreboard and has just been talking out of his ass this entire time and has no actual idea which weapons do higher or lower baseline damage
>>501815772
>FINALLY you come to a disagreement directly with something I've actually said
That's what i meant this entire time. Took you long enough to figure out
>You get huge numbers with the Chain Axe. And why even bring up the Combat Axe?
Nevermind. You still have no idea what the crux of this argument is
>if your weapon isn't fucking S tier, it's bad
You REALLY don't know what you are talking about. Wish you hadn't wasted my time like this
>>501815776
You pick the talents and you play normally
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>>501816416
>boss
Wouldnt they be equivalent to a mauler/crusher? Whats the point
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>>501816476
>You pick the talents and you play normally
>so that means the weapons do perform well enough without martyrdom
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When they do inevitably add sororitas, I'm going to be unbearably smug about it
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>>501816652
lole
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>>501816573
I am amazed by your ability to misunderstand that which you read
>if a weapon needs 8 stacks of martyrdom to keep up with a rashad or evis crit build then the weapon that needs 8 stacks of martyr isn't that good
If you still can't understand this then you really are hopeless
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>>501816476
>That's what i meant this entire time. Took you long enough to figure out
Your own words say otherwise, you retarded nog. >>501808905 You implicitly agreed with me in saying that nothing is bad without Martyr there. Do you not understand how your response reads? Practice saying what you mean before you go bitching about ESLs.
>Nevermind. You still have no idea what the crux of this argument is
No, it's that the Combat Axe's performance (as a fucking outlier in terms of weapon balancing) has no relevance on whether or not Martyr is mandatory for any weapons to perform well.
>You REALLY don't know what you are talking about. Wish you hadn't wasted my time like this
Do you think the Combat Axe isn't S tier? Because the
>why even bring up the Combat Axe
leads into the
>if your weapon isn't fucking S tier, it's bad
You're the one using an S tier weapon as a benchmark for what's good.
>inb4 "nah the Combat Axe is just alright"
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why are metafags so insecure?
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>>501817065
>keep up with a rashad or evis crit build
>so that means the weapons do perform well enough without martyrdom
esl-kun, your retard is showing
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>>501817304
They're just jealous of my power maul
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>>501817508
how do you get it to work, i feel like theres something wrong with it that still cant pinpoint even after the buffs
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I know this penance is bugged, but what the fuck even properly counts toward it? Do enemies have to be ignited? Do they have to burn to death?
I've thrown a grenade at like 20 and just blocked them while they burned to death and it only ticked up by like 8.
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>bro if your build uses x to compete with y it's worse
why
why is my wep good if its good with the crit keystone but bad if its good with martyrdom
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>>501817189
>You implicitly agreed with me in saying that nothing is bad without Martyr there
Some weapons are better than others in general, not just with martyrdom. Do you really need this explained to you?
>No, it's that the Combat Axe's performance (as a fucking outlier in terms of weapon balancing) has no relevance on whether or not Martyr is mandatory for any weapons to perform well
This is the post that started this >>501797616
Do you still have no idea why i might mention the rashad and eviscerator in this reply-chain that started with me advocating for the rashad and eviscerator as being among the best melee weapons in the game and where i explain why some weren't included specifically because they aren't as good as the rashad and eviscerator and can only hope to get similar numbers with 8 stacks of martyr? Does this answer the mystery for you?

Declare yourself the victor, accept my concession, i don't care. Just stop wasting my time
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>>501805950
>zealot already has crusader cosmetics
Yes, that's why he won't become a new archetype. Paypigshop killed any chance for this, despite him being a workable idea, much better one that SoB ever was.
>give zealot sword and board
>done, crusader is in the game
This completely misses the point. Crusader has potential for a separate archetype build around being melee only class with skill tree reflecting this. SoB doesn't offer anything distinct that would warrant entire separate archetype and so she won't happen, especially when even Crusader, a better candidate, was turned into a mere skin. Fatshark is extremely averse to adding new playable characters into their games, with VA issues being listed as a chief problem. It's why they came up with Career system for VT2 where Kerrilian larps as other elf flavors while Kruber pretends to be a Bretonnian. They said that they will only consider adding another character to VT2 if he offers really unique gameplay from others and really requires another character being made. Which realistically means only an Ogre or maybe another Mage, maybe a Helf so he can switch between winds of magic easily.
>except they'll have to be male shaped
There isn't anything that forces them to do so. They can commission one female model from their chink sweatshop, gender lock it and call it a day. SoB is in game now and Zealots gameplay, weapons and talents perfectly fit her.
>make a class with a gender lock
That's a massive amount of work, time and resources wasted on an Archetype that will be identical to Zealot. Pure idiocy and something which won't ever happen with Farshark.
>instead of pretending like your line of thinking actually makes sense
This line of thinking is flawless. If they ever add new Archetype it will be tech class and so Admech aligned which leaves us with either Combat Servitor or a Skitarii. Sobfags are insanely delusional.
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>>501817375
The other guy understood it just fine. Guess you are even dumber than he is
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>>501818071
I agree with you about SoB but thinking that Crusader would have made any sense is also idiotic when the overlap is so massive with zealot.
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>>501817890
>if x weapon with martyr is as good as y weapon with crit
>then y weapon with martyr is better than x weapon with martyr or crit
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>>501818071
>Paypigshop killed any chance for this
Bold of you to think Fatshart won't try to cash in on SoBs or crusaders twice.
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>>501817890
If you need fins to keep up with a certain swimmer then that swimmer is faster than you
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>>501818254
The other Anon tried to use a Grail Knight as an argument in favor of SoB. Which is completely nonsensical when the reason for his inclusion was his melee only boss killer playstyle, something massively distinct from other Kruber Careers. This is why I brought up Crusader to begin with, because he is the only one who is analogous to Grail Knight.
>>501818464
They will, with cosmetics. SoB Archetype won't ever happen and Classes were turned into expanded skill tress during overhaul.
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Anyone getting shitty fps after a mission in Darktide?
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>>501818923
Disable raytracing, there's a memory leak since they added Clandestium Gloriana or so.
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>nooooo they won't do it, why would they add something people actually know by name that they would absolutely pay for when they could add my headcannon class that I'm absolutely certain will be melee only and only have one weapon type (sword and shield) that absolutely no one fucking knows about, and is, at best, a couple of figurines and a lore blurb
Unhinged, deranged even.
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>>501818684
>SoB Archetype won't ever happen
Yeah, but they can sell SoB-themed zealot cosmetics and then sell the same sets (but with a couple fleur-de-lis slapped on it) as SoB-exclusive cosmetics.
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>>501819117
That sucks. Ray tracing makes the game look pretty nice.
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>>501819417
makes you look pretty nice too sweetheart
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>>501819793
Shut up, you fucking faggot.
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>>501819417
Its one of the few games that I don't feel its just a gimmick (though it still lets them be lazy with their lighting design).
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>>501817965
If you're inclined to take me at my word, here's a chain axe game with the crit build I threw together for it. It's so meh without Martyrdom. So trash. Can't keep up with the Eviscerator or Combat Axe.

>Some weapons are better than others in general, not just with martyrdom. Do you really need this explained to you?
flip flop flip flop, anon. Either there are weapons that are shit without martyrdom (which you've said multiple times) or you don't disagree with me when I say there are no weapons that need Martyr to be good. Pick a side and stay there. You argue like a politician, you weasel.
>This is the post that started this
And that has no significance to what was actually being discussed.
>Do you still have no idea why i might mention the rashad and eviscerator in this reply-chain
You were the one who was basing weapon quality by performance relative to the Combat Axe, you goon. You are actually so stupid.

>Just stop wasting my time
You never had to reply to any of my posts. You're the one wasting your own time, retard. It's not my fault you think there are weapons that require Martyr to be good.
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>>501817618
As the resident power maul autist I have tried it every which way, and it feels best leaning into its strengths instead of trying to fix its weaknesses. It will never be a strong killing weapon, but it can be a control powerhouse with acceptable damage.
Explosion Radius Talent, Power Surge, and Thunderstrike.
Thunderstrike is important, it creates a noticeably longer recovery delay for staggered elites/specials, which is important to cover the gaps between your slow swings.
The two explosion radius boosts expand the bubble to just a bit larger than trapper/flamer targeting range, which helps to protect you and your team.
You have a large bubble of control, it doesn't matter how many maulers/ragers it throws at you 50 or 500, you can not only hold the line but push them back. Only too many Crushers are a problem, and will require some dancing and energized head bops.
In use, energize heavies for most things and mix energized lights for a quick control application or single target elite focus. Just standard heavy attacks for horde trash..

As for the other blessings,
Brutal Momentum, in practice it just helps clear poxwalkers faster, and doesn't help much with much else.
Skullcrusher is decent team support as it will apply it to anything touched by the bubble, you can swap out Power Surge if you want your team to help you mop up a little quicker.
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>>501820082
Your score is about as pathetic as i had expected. Thanks for at least providing me with a laugh
>rest of the post
Didn't read it. You have wasted enough of my time already
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>>501820350
>can't even help but weasel out by denying a good scoreboard
Not gonna lie. You're kind of a cutie, anon
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>less than 24 hours for a full /copeg/ thread
waow there sure were a lot of melties today
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>>501820450
>a good scoreboard
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Guess my standards are just skewed from using good weapons
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>>501820672
>e-celeb tranny...my hero, he is a big boy who is better than anyone in this thread
>no, they can't do sister of battle because...they just can't, okay?
very engaging stuff
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>>501820705
>let me cherrypick this scoreboard from eons ago that I've reposted at least a couple times of some super-outlier, turbo-scuffed game where everybody sat around with our dildos lodged up our asses and pretend this is a normal game
Nobody's buying that, my guy. Fucking kek though
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>>501820985
Let's not kid outselves. You would have been looking at a loss screen with less than half of my damage done if this was you.
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>>501821048
https://www.fanfiction.net/
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>>501819185
Nta but fatshark will never add another separate class. At best the current 4 will get an expanded talent tree or something else for further specialization. (Like an all-melee style)
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>>501817652
It's not bugged.
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>>501822673
>Known Issues
> Fsr 3.1 Frame Generation Does Not Do Anything During Excessive Fullscreen Effects
> (Fixed in this Hotfix)
> Incorrect Rounding of Weapon Stats
> (Fixed in this Hotfix)
> Penances Shown As Not Completed
> (Fixed in this Hotfix)
> Purging Flames Penance is Bugged
> Misaligned Weapon Skins in the Penance Preview Squares



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