Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #7550 - Blaze's Virgin Pu$$y Edition>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Official Trailerhttps://youtu.be/OSOyFiOiNd4 [Open]>Sonic is getting a five issue crossover miniseries with DC, further collaboration will continue through 2026https://youtu.be/t8b1woTWRIY [Open]>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Em6-SjjaYQE [Open]>IDW Release Dates:Sonic the Hedgehog: Knuckles 30th Anniversary Special - 20 November 2024Sonic the Hedgehog #75 - 11 December 2024Sonic the Hedgehog #76 - 05 February 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #77 - 19 March 2025>General link compilation:https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4Phttps://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0>Perfect System Collection:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org//sthg/ OC info:sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive//sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Thread: >>501692416
>>501738024>Shadow was meant to stay gone like Chip actually hasThe idea of Chip returning makes me physically ill.
>>501738024>Shadow was meant to stay dead but kept coming back because fans asked for him >Silver was meant to keep coming back whether fans liked him or not Silver is undoubtedly the Poochie of this franchise.
>>501738141Ugly Jeet
what if Maria resurrected
>>501738219yeah they could’ve made gaia a busty milf and didn’t.
Are you people excited for Silver's upcoming game?
>>501738053>[Embed] [Open]FUCK YOU
>>501738254>they replaced Rouge with Gerald in Team Dark
Flower?
>>501738254My god it's going to be pure kino
>mentions your least favorite namefag
>>501738053
How does Knuckles keep getting deceived by Eggman? This is the third time that happened in Sonic X.
>>501738510This was when they played up how stupid he was.
>>501738510He's very gullible.
>>501738295>>501738303Maria is dead.
>>501738510Knuckles grew up with no social interaction and is problematically naive.
>>501737225>>501737380Silver exists because they cynically decided to make another hedgehog to try and replicate Shadow's success. '06 is Adventure 3.>>501737229This is what I keep saying. His backstory and arc was completely erased. The only persistent part of his character is his relationship to Blaze which was soft-retconned and he doesn't remember it. The nature of their relationship cannot be demonstrated naturally. It's like if Shadow permanently had amnesia and forgot his relationship with Maria, forgot she got shot, and then found another girl that was "Maria" and they kept calling back to something Shadow didn't remember.
>>501738510Because it's a lame running joke in the early series. The original "Eggman is sympathetic and redeemable" before they tried playing it straight with Sonic.
>>501738364I look forward to it crashing and burning so we never have to see Silver again. It'll be his strike 3 when it comes to being a main character.
>>501738615yes but what if she resurrected? how she would get along with the main cast?
>>501738510he's dumb like a rock, but with a big heart.
>>501738510>"But Ivo said..."
>>501738364Before a Zavok game?
Why was Knuckles in Sonic 06? I don't remember.
>>501738615We never saw her body, schizo.
>>501738825To deliver a letter. That's literally it.
>>501738303
>>501738825>"Hey knucklehead, go and give this message to Sonic."
>>501737225Shadow came back because of his popularity. This happened to Vegeta who was supposed to die in Saiyan Saga and Vergil who came back in DMC4SE and DMC5. Silver was never loved back in the day and his legacy is forever tarnished because of Sonic 06.
>>501738749>yes but what if"duuuuh what if"what if we had real girlfriends outside badly drawn pictures? anything could happen
>>501738254
>>501738825Knuckles is completely inconsequential to 06's narrative, he's only in the story because he's a playable character they made gameplay for.>Eggman sending a robot to Knuckles to ask him to be a delivery boy and give Sonic a ransom note instead of just having a robot give Sonic the ransom note
>>501738825To piss off Arin.https://youtu.be/43C2aBKMqeA
>>501738917>spare Vegeta from death only to kill him off >bring him back, let him cuck Yamcha and then kill him off again to bring him back I mean sure, they could have justified Silver if he was as popular as Trunks but unfortunately that's not the case.
>>501738880>the military kills you to hide proofs>they don't burn your body afterare you serious
>>501738364I look forward to the gameplay being good and the story being abysmal, stripping him of his potential and reducing him to the status of White Psychic Mighty in the fandom
>>501738456>sonic fandom is already infested with gay furries>fowler refuses to add the "Straightening" elementWHY IS FOWLER SO FUCKING RETARDED?! HE'S ACTIVELY TURNING THE FRANCHISE INTO A SAUSAGE FEST BY PLANTING THE IDEA THAT FEMALES AREN'T IMPORTANT!! FUCK THE HOLLYJEW LIVE-AXTION SLOP!! AAAAAAA
>>501739198>let him cuck YamchaBulma and Yamcha never had a healthy relationship, and it was mostly Bulma's fault.I know we hate this comparison, but Bulma and Yamcha were like Sonic and Sally, destined to fail.
>>501739228She isn't fucking dead. They preserved her body. The military is making her Shadow 2.0.
>>501738917Frieza was eventually resurrected and got his own movie so it's not all that bad.
>>501739321didn’t yamcha cheat on her
>>501739385No, Bulma constantly accused him of it because girls were always taking advantage of him.Any instance of Yamcha "cheating on Bulma" is rewriting.
>>501739306Well at least we avoided another mary sue stronk woman situation. By being fags.
>>501739306You guys are masters of making yourselves upset over nothing.
>>501739198In all fairness, Toriyama deliberately chose to kill Vegeta after getting a ton of fanmail begging him not to when he originally wasn't going to.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1OBAeRlde4
>>501739198Trunks addition to DB made the series better overall and showed a darker side to the series that was never explored. Silver didn't add anything to the Sonic series and poisoned the franchise for 15 years minimum.>Time travelDone in CD>Chaos ControlDone in SA2>World ending threatDone in SA1Worthless character. A failed attempt at cloning Shadow and forming a hedgehog trio. What a joke.
>>501739518Sir this is a /v/eddit general
>>501738959who's that ugly ass green sonic
>>501738825He's there to watch a human make out with sonic's corpse.
>>501739321>Shadow also cucked Sonic out of Sally in the comics>Shadow is currently cucking Knuckles into complete irrelevance
>>501739587The difference is Trunks doesn't show up unless there's a plot directly related to him happening. Silver doesn't have that same benefit.
>>501739363WHY DO YOU CALL ME A SCHIZO THEN?? YOURS IS LITERALLY A CONSPIRACY THEORY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>501738825>>501739142Knuckles was supposed to have his own story. A lot of content was cut, remember? We don't know the full context behind Knuckles' role.
>>501738917Shadow really is the "Vegeta" of Sonic.
Without the Time Stones?
>>501739587>A failed attempt at cloning Shadow and forming a hedgehog trio.They already had a playable hedgehog associated with time travel.
>>501739389
>>501739693My personal OC "Fart The Hedgehog", flynn stole it and penders somehow claimed it in a legal cause.
>Shadow is currently cucking Knuckles into complete irrelevance"Currently"? That's been the case for nearly 20 years now.
>>501739782Who is ???
>>501739724Trunks was split into 2 different characters during the Android Saga with Kid Trunks and (Alternative) Future Trunks. Once the Saga was over Future Trunks went into the vault and was replaced by Kid Trunks until Super brought him back
>>501739470even so that makes him a cheater
>>501739782Don't treat what 06 could've been as what 06 actually is.>but muh potentialI don't give a shit, Knuckles does fuck all in 06.
>>501738917RIPIn hindsight it's amazing how immune Akira seemingly was with all the fame and attention he garnered from not just Dragon Ball but also in helping define JRPGs as a genre. There really was a time where everything Toriyama touched just turned to gold.
>>501740071
Puppy
>>501740036We needed a kid silver, or some of his grandfathers becoming adult silver after fixing the future and then inteoduced after.
>>501739363>She dies again>Shadow blows up the world
>>501740114That doesn't change what I said. Knuckles likely had more content written to explain his presence that we'll likely never get to see.
>>501740203put her down
>>501740221>tumblrtranny “art”style
The Retarded Year of Knuckles
>>501739906>never bothered to explain the history of the ME for muh mystery>any attempts at bringing the echidnas back is now heavily scrutinized because of Chronicles/Penders>requires/should have a different gameplay style that doesnt relate to Sonic'sKnuckles was never going to win the long game.
>>501740125You know, I can deal with Sonic X having QUALITY animation, but holy shit the colors make it painful to look at, everything is so blindingly oversaturated.
>>501740221>steven universe human design
>>501740319I've seen worse.
>>501740256>That doesn't change what I said.I know, I don't give a shit.
>>501740491You do give a shit.
>>501740491You give a shit.
What is Knuckles' true name?
>>501740267No!
>>501740568ME
>>501740491Give a shit.
>>501740167Toriyama didn't even like Dragonball all that much, and he had no interest in being famous. That's why be became a recluse in the last decade, all he really wanted to do was draw military stuff and funny-looking robots.
>>501740491A shit is a thing you give.
>>501740409>but holy shit the colors make it painful to look at, everything is so blindingly oversaturated.Especially when Super Sonic is around.
>>501740221
>>501740716I like super being super glowy
>>501737029>>501737134>>501737229Silver could still exist perfectly fine in the series if not for the fact that he completely forgot his future. He, Sonic and Elise should have been the ones to remember 06. It would have given his meeting with the new Blaze a sense of sadness and could have made him a character on par with Shadow in terms of story and characterization. Unfortunately Sega fucked up and now his only real characterization comes from the west which constantly fucks him up.
>>501740568Negro the echidna.
>>501740568Guardian the Useless.
>>501740763
>>501740526>>501740565>>501740640>>501740707Not about what could've been.What could've been isn't, it could've, but it's not, so I don't give a shit.
>>501740813>It would have given his meeting with the new Blaze a sense of sadnessDid we actually see that happen? I just remember Blaze and Silver suddenly hanging out after 06 as if they had always been a thing.
>>501738053Blaze is shit.
>>501740994No, we haven't. Pretty sure they first meet post 06 in any "canon" way in Colors DS.
>>501740994The only characters who canonically remember the events of 06 are Sonic and Blaze.
*BEEP* *BEEP*Best ship coming through.
>>501741028I will proceed to blazespam until reaching image limit if you don't say sorry.
>>501741134I don't think that's right.
>>501740813>It would have given his meeting with the new Blaze a sense of sadness and could have made him a character on par with Shadow in terms of story and characterization.You need to let that shit go. The story of 06 is complete shit and Silver's only memorable parts were his annoying boss fight and Shadow kicking him in the head. Meanwhile SA2 is seen as the peak of Sonic stories and Shadow has had several iconic moments from that game alone. Silver never stood a chance.
>>501740256Adding more shit to the pile doesn't mean there will be a gold nugget in there to make up for it. You want to believe that Sonic Team had something really good planned that got cut to avoid facing the truth of them not thinking things through for the sake of a story
>>501741172You thought wrong.
>>501741179There's nothing wrong with wanting better for Silver, but it is important to recognize he hasn't been utilized very well officially.
>>501741134Sonic and Elise.
>>501741164Made for jackal cock.
>>501741223Knuckles had a story mode that got cut, that’s a fact. Unless you think him receiving the message would have made up the entire runtime.
>>501740653He was still doing artwork for Dragon Quest, I think he just lost interest in the hobby which is understandable when you have been working on it non-stop for almost 3 straight decades. I don't think he ever said he straight up didn't like Dragon Ball, just that he got burnt out on it around the Namek Saga but kept the story going because his audience always wanted more and he still had some ideas he wanted to implement like the Androids and Red Ribbon coming back. I did always appreciate his mech and motorbike drawings. He loved drawing bikes.
>>501741373I wonder how Knuckles would have been related to the plot.
>>501741179I don't care about the opinion of some random guy on Twitter who just wants to shit on Silver. Silver story in 06 was fine and more than anything is hindered by just not being in a good game. The actual content of his story being about the how far he's willing to go to save his future is on par with Shadow's story in SA2. In a batter game, and if they have followed through, it would he could be just a good as Shadow now.
Nice consolation prize, Cucklesfags. A fucking IDW comic. An IDW comic for your 30th Anniversary that no one even remembers. Meanwhile, Shadow got a game, a movie a manga, an animated short series prologue and a real-life replica of his motorbike. What the fuck is even the point?
>>501741373Him having a story mode still doesn't mean they had a good reason for him to be there
>>501741449Toriyama did explicitely say he didn't understand why people love Dragonball so much, they thought of it a lot more than he did.
Sonic
>>501740813>Silver remembering BlazeEnlightened post. They should have used a different character and demonstrated the consequences of this sacrifice instead of using Blaze for the sake of a tanabata reference.>>501741315IIRC that Crisis City line is not in the sub.
>>501741606the sex scene with fang and trip was greay
>>501741729You can see the future?When do the Freedom Fighters come back?
>>501739825Amy's thing was being accepted into Team Sonic as part of the brand and she was actually accepted by the fanbase after they changed her character for it. Silver was totally rejected from being part of the team as Sonic and Shadow.
Silver
>>501741678Scripts > localizations.
I would come so much man..
>>501741835It was kind of surprising the climax of the Metal Virus arc was with Super Sonic and Super Silver, really.
>>501740371>The Year of Retarded Knuckles
>>501741563>I don't care about the opinion of some random guy on TwitterWhat he said applies to the majority you idiot. No one gives a fuck about Silver and putting him on the same level as Shadow is disrespectful.
>>501741967It really wasn't when it was becoming more apparent that Super Sonic was going to be the only solution to the whole thing
>>501742012>What he said applies to the majority you idiot18K botted likes, retard.
>>501740935>Gets to legally fuck older MariaBased.
Shadow
>>501741606He got to lead Movie 2 and got his own TV series. What more did you want?
>>501741939>Blaze remembering '06 is canonSo them not remembering Colors DS isn't canon now, either? Their entire appeal of their dynamic is not remembering. Why do you want them to remember? Weird how Silvaze truthers are always desperate to undermine its appeal.
>>501742330>his own TV showYou mean the Wade Whipple show?
>>501741028
>>501742330>Paramount slop
>>501741606you probably memory-holed this, and i cant blame you, but in this year we got Wade Whipple show
>>501741606Yeah yeah and he also gets bullied by Eggdaughter. We know.
>>501742012No, a majority of people find the post funny cause he said "coleslaw cruncher." Silver's story in his introductory game is a good as Shadow's, and his character has plenty of room that could be explored if handled better. The only reason its disrespectful is because SA2 is a better game as a whole than 06 and Silver has been successful fucked over by the western writers into being a joke and people are now starting to accept stuff that was originally reviled about Shadow like Shadow 05.
>>501741179Why are niggers so mean to our White Hedgehog Man from the future?
>>501741563>The actual content of his story being about the how far he's willing to go to save his future is on par with Shadow's story in SA2At last the truth is revealed
>>501742595>Silver's story in his introductory game is a good as Shadow's
Silverfags will never stop coping when it comes to failing to live up to the standards set by Shadow, will they?
>>501741953Shut up
>>501738510knuckles is thick (in more ways than one)
>>501741653
>>501741179>dbz pfpIt's all niggers man, Please make Silver racist again
>needs Doom Spear to beat Biolizard or the monster would still be fine and able to use Chaos Control (without Black Doom's DNA btw) like in SA2>needs Doom Spear and Doom Surf to beat Metal Overlord or he would need Super Sonic, Knuckles and Tails to do the job like in SH>needs Doom Spear, Doom Blast and Doom Morph to beat Mephiles or he would need Rouge and Omega assistance as well as the Memory Shards they sell in Soleanna>needs Doom Surf, Doom Morph, Doom Wings and Doom Spear to beat Black Doom or he would need his Super form>also a Chaos Emerald as back up all the adventureMeanwhile in SONIC Generations, normal Sonic beat a guy who previously made him go Super. Why is that Sonic grows stronger all the time but Shadow needs a bad guy's mutations he loses later anyway?
Sage is not interesting characterHer lack in IDW damages her character day by day
>>501742432>So them not remembering Colors DS isn't canon now, either?No, still canon, she just remembered in Generations.>Why do you want them to remember?I don't, the series does, blame it, not me.
>>501741664>Shadow takes the muddy route
>>501742767It's funny because you can see the seeds being planted of Amy being the most rational one of the group. Iirc she wanted to smash Eggman's lights out because she didn't believe but Knuckles defended him. It feels like a role reversal of Knuckles going with his feelings and Amy going with her intellect.
>>501740935>silver vixen MariaMUH
>>501743092can’t blame the sloth really
>>501743092>Her lack in IDW damages her character day by dayYou actually think being in IDW's shitty comic would be to her benefit? I don't understand.
>>501742595>Silver's story in his introductory game is a good as Shadow'sAnon...>and his character has plenty of room that could be explored if handled betterThe thing is, does it?Silver's backstory hinges on the events of a game that doesn't exist, his most notable supporting character is someone whose presence in 06 requires you to ignore her background (Blaze is in the future now and not her dimension because ???) and previous portrayals (why did she have an underwhelming reaction to some guy telling her that they need to kill Sonic?) and his second most-recurring nemesis is an underwhelming villain who was previously connected to said supporting character.Silver needs his own niche if he meaningfully wants to be explored better. Putting him with Blaze just adds unnecessary scrutiny and questions. I dunno how you feel about post-reboot Archie, but at least that tried to give him his own setting and cast.
>>501742114SuperSonic is cool!
>>501743092Sage is kinda fucked over because the only thing she's really going to do going forward is be another sidekick character like Orbot and Cubot. The most interesting stuff done with her will be Frontiers in which she was largely forced to share the spotlight with 3 characters who didn't need to be there.
>>501741606>classic era, so it's not allowed to have Rouge in itWhat the fuck is even the point indeed.
>>501743502Fang is filling in.
I think SonAlly is good, beautiful actually
>>501742952Not really, no.
>>501738813Yes.
>>501743603
Fang is sexier
>>501743463Sage is going to be the straight man to Orbot and Cubot now.
>>501743284
>>501743092>Her lack in IDW damages her character day by dayWhy? Nobody reads the comics.
>>501743603Fine opinion.I liked it in SatAM. but the mental gymnastics they were doing in archie was kinda annoying ngl
I want to neck this faggot.
>>501743776Alphabet folk do.
>>501740319I believe it's called "calarts"ramg4
>>501743702I know you love SonAmy, but it's hard to not acknowledge how great they were back the days. Damn, I kinda get it now
>>501743463That'd be the absolute worst case scenario. Best case is another enforcer to share Metal Sonic's losses with.
>>501742330>being a supporting character in a bowling movie is to be considered a W... >>501742556Based. This is literally the only purpose Angel Island serves for the Empire. Nobody lives there, so there's no one to subjugate, and the Master Emerald is a useless rock that doesn't actually do anything. The only reason Knuckles still exists is to be Sage's punching bag.
>>501743502>classic era, so it's not allowed to have Rouge in itthat's a good thing
>>501743873Why?
>>501743873context of kishimoto's anime OP lyrics?
>>501743426>Silver's backstory hinges on the events of a game that doesn't existThat's not holding him back at all. You can still play with his regaining his memories of 06 and base a story on that. Sure, you could also explore his current future, but because multiverse theory apparently doesn't apply to Sonic, Sega doesn't want to do that in any in-depth manner, so the only answer is to go back to 06 tell more stories based on that. You're ignoring the very obvious answer in regards to Blaze, and that's that 06 takes place prior to Rush and thus she did not know Sonic.
>>501742595>Silver's story in his introductory game is a good as Shadow's,
>>501744065because Frontiers 2 will mostly likely not be good>>501744119https://x.com/Milki_way1999/status/1854938142119276553
>>501743998>it's hard to not acknowledge how great they were back the days.Says you. I never liked Sally or Sonally, it's part of why I didn't bother to watch all of SatAM until I was in my 20s, and I haven't again since.
>>501744002Sage only ever shot like, one laser at Sonic, and Knuckles blocked it with his hands, she can't be an enforcer. The best she could do is be the one who pilots Eggman's mechs for end of zone bosses.
Shadow's most memorable moment in 06.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljiqF4bm4kSilver's most memorable moment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1Ok9R613Q
>>501744374Silver's most memorable moment is his first boss fight
>>501744374>not it’s no use
>>501742740>>501744252I know I'm responding to bait, but what actual content of the story is somehow much worse than SA2?
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>>501744339>Knuckles blocked it with his hands, she can't be an enforcer.Did you not watch the prologue short? Sage fucking bodied Knuckles. Also, you people have no imagination and shit memory. Ivo explicitly voiced his intent to put Sage in full control of the badnik horde. Get ready for many ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL moments.
>>501744339Isn't it implied with that very same red laser that she's the one who blasted super sonic out of the sky at every island? I mean, who else would it be?I always figured the cyber whatever is the reason she couldn't directly hurt Knuckles. He wasn't fully material.
>>501743426You're both right. His story and arc is fine, but its impactfullness is undermined by Blaze being a different established character and the lore and canon being a mess.>>501744136>Can base a story on that>Go back to '06Everything meaningful Silver in '06 is inextricably tied to Blaze.>06 takes place prior to RushThe script is written that way but it's not canon.They totally kneecapped him by attaching him to her and then soft-retconning their relationship.
>>501744605>Hey you, retard. Kill this guy you know nothing about. >Gee wilikers, Satan, I'll get right on that! ...
>>501742991Boyfriends.
>>501744707Then why didn't she "body" him a second time? And controlling his badnik hoards is no different from being given control of Eggman's giant mini-boss mechs. None of it will make her a Metal Sonic tier threat.
>>501744975>None of it will make her a Metal Sonic tier threat.Good, that way she won't be so weak.
>>501744443>>501744510Ah yes, that's a moment that is looked upon fondly by the community...
>>501744136>that's that 06 takes place prior to Rush and thus she did not know Sonic.Unless Blaze reincarnated, that doesn't gel well with what we see and hear of her in Rush Adventure. >I understand now... My inherent power over fire... As princess, it is my duty to protect the Sol Emeralds. But because of my duty, I shut people out, and keep to myself... But trying to make it solely my responsibility, I put my world in danger. But then... [Remembers Sonic's words]I guess you could say that it explains her fire powers, but I don't think the princess responsible for guarding the SOL (Sun) emeralds needed the explanation of "She absorbed a fire monster from another dimension".
>>501744834>Everything meaningful Silver in '06 is inextricably tied to Blaze.And that's a problem how?>They totally kneecapped him by attaching him to her and then soft-retconning their relationship.They kneecapped him by having him lose his memories of 06 at all. >>501744906Yeah, I figured this would be the response. Now please tell me why Shadow thought that Maria of all people, someone who was peaceful and gentle and wanted to see the Earth, would want Shadow to destroy it?
>>501744374>Trannycube and it's consequencesNo wonder that guy keeps asking for Silver Lynching Snapcube. This level of flanderization/mischaracterization is very severe
>>501745240>Unless Blaze reincarnated, that doesn't gel well with what we see and hear of her in Rush Adventure.It can be assumed that due to time bullshit that she was given a new life like Silver.
>>501744975Because as >>501744762 points out, he was in cyberspace. >>501744975>And controlling his badnik hoards is no different from being given control of Eggman's giant mini-boss mechs. Again, your appalling lack of imagination and capacity for critical thought shows. There is a world of difference between a human operator and a direct computer control. Reaction times and precision movements can't even be properly compared, there's no point. The latter is objectively superior. >None of it will make her a Metal Sonic tier threat.... On that we agree, but for much different reasons.
>>501745405no that guy is just weird
>>501745386Because he had his memories fucked with?
>>501745386>Now please tell me why Shadow thought that Maria of all people, someone who was peaceful and gentle and wanted to see the Earth, would want Shadow to destroy it?Gerald fucked with his memories.
>>501745606>Reaction times and precision movements can't even be properly comparedYou're talking about something holds virtually no meaning at all. Sonic isn't going to be threatened by a hoard of Motobugs just because Sage had control of them, especially not in terms of gameplay.
>Rouge and Amy not popular enough for a movieHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>501745541:*)
>>501745735You're not a Silverfag, you wouldn't get it
Gold is only one inch shorter than Werehog Sonic
>>501746046>You're talking about something holds virtually no meaning at all.Actively denying facts is the most pathetic form of cope. Narratively, Sage being in control presents a greater challenge or the heroes because badniks are faster, more accurate, and synchronized. Gameplay wise, the enemies are now way harder.
>>501746196Neither are you
>>501745580A new life in another dimension?In fact, doesn't her absence in End of the World imply that she was untouched by time bullshit?
>>501745936>>501746036Said memories were easily unfucked with thanks to some random chick he interacted with one other time. If Shadow had put in even a modicum of thought into it he could have undone it himself. Comparatively Silver has the excuse of not knowing who Mephiles is prior and Mephiles offering him a potential solution to his life long problem.
>>501746309Oh~
I don't know why I stick around with the Sonic franchise. There's never anything good, just a bunch of problems and people constantly bitching about everything.
SSSSSHHH don't wake up the boy, he's been sleeping like an angel for hours...
>>501746717
>>501746195Eww, they must've picked the ugliest from the box....
>>501746362>Narratively, Sage being in control presents a greater challenge or the heroes because badniks are faster, more accurate, and synchronizedNarratively most of the cast jobs to a large enough hoard of Badniks and Sage isn't going to make you're ordinary Motobug or Buzzbomber enough of a threat to take down Sonic or Shadow.>Gameplay wise, the enemies are now way harder.They're as hard as the difficulty level makes them. Are they gonna change hard more to "Sage Mode" now?
>>501746483Damn the person overcome with grief and bitterness isn't thinking rationally
>>501746483>>501746483>Said memories were easily unfucked with thanks to some random chick he interacted with one other time. If Shadow had put in even a modicum of thought into it he could have undone it himself.Ah, I see you're basing this argument solely on the Jehtt video, forgetting that it's a joke. If you actually played the game, you might recall that Shadow sends the entire story questioning his actions and motives.
>>501741606Still being better than Silver.
>>501746717I stick for nostalgia and CHADO
>>501746483>If Shadow had put in even a modicum of thought into it he could have undone it himself. That would require him to not be consumed by revenge long enough for him to stop and question his memories.In Silver's case, it would require someone to stop and tell him that Sonic is a good guy and would never (willingly) unleash Iblis, which Amy didn't really do and Blaze, I guess is implied to be prior to Rush even though that doesn't make sense and fucks her backstory from the Rush games but the alternative is Blaze never speaking up because ???
>>501746397Solaris effects both time and space. It being blown out could very easily have an effect on the multiverse.
>>501742632Because he's not a Real Nigga like Shadow. Silver's the wimpy white guy, no the cool white guy like Sonic.
>>501746717I'm only here for Shadow at this point. The Sonic i like died after Black Knight.
Wait, are you really trying to make sense of Sonic 06?
>>501747095Then why isn't she there?Heck, what the implications of Mephiles and Iblis fusing when Blaze has a version of Iblis inside of her?
>>501743426>why did she have an underwhelming reaction to some guy telling her that they need to kill Sonic?Blaze has amnesia in that game due to dimensional travel, the same thing happens to Sonic in the Metal Virus arc. Mephiles kept Blaze separated from the cast to keep her memory from jogging which is why she doesn't interact with anyone but Silver. She wasn't shown a vision of Sonic like Silver was so she didn't know it was him.
>>501746717I stick for posting foxes and nostalgia, but i'd like more mature content like, idk, watching someone actually bleeding when being punched in the face.
06 was a bad game with a bad plot and you only like it because you either grew up with it or are so put off by IDW that you tricked yourself into thinking everything else was good.
>>501746196Amy and Rouge would have no way of getting to Earth in the movie-verse.
>>501746717i stick around because knuckles gets something nice every now and then
>>501746893Damn the person desperate for a way to save his future is easily deceived?>>501746920And yet somehow he still somehow it takes a random girl for him to remember Maria actually DIDN'T want him to destroy the world
>>501746814>Narratively most of the cast jobs to a large enough hoard of Badniks and Sage isn't going to make you're ordinary Motobug or Buzzbomber enough of a threat to take down Sonic or Shadow.1) Trying to pretend other badniks besides the Sonic 1 models don't exist is an admission that your argument has no weight. 2) Why the hell couldn't those types be upgraded? I mean aside from your own lack of imagination. >They're as hard as the difficulty level makes them. Are they gonna change hard more to "Sage Mode" now?That sounds awesome though. Sage Mode is where badniks react to your movements and attacks, and go out of their way to gang up on you, possibly even doing synchronized moves.
>>501745386>It's a problem how?Because their relationship is a can of worms in every single aspect both officially and unofficially. This should be obvious.
>>501747351you guys need to stop thinking lore reasons actually matter when studios make decisions. if they wanted rouge and amy they would be in it and any hurdles wouldn't matter.
>>501747448>Damn the person desperate for a way to save his future is easily deceived?So we all agree he's a desperate fool in his story
>>501747351
>>501747271Because having her there would undermine her big sacrificial moment in Silver's story.
>>501745405Silver never had a masculine voice in the english language. I think people would find it shocking that he shares the same voice with fucking Jotaro from JoJo in Japan.
>>501746309An inch shorter but a ton heavier
>>501745386>And that's a problem how?Because Blaze is already her own character with her own interesting personality and setting, who already has a good dynamic with the rest of the cast. 06 only manages to muddy the waters and turn her into a boring mentor that only undermines Silver as a character by making his choices and sacrifices for him, which people rightfully complain about.I like Blaze, and I like Silver, but nobody in their right mind should be ok with how 06 went about handling their dynamic, as well as Blaze in general.
FOX!
Fowler knows if he adds any of the female characters they'll have to be DEI-adjacent and he doesn't want that to ruin his movies.
>>501747512What can of worms? Like seriously, what is the issue? They're relationship is pretty simple.>>501747581Sure, but people only ever treat it like its a problem for him to act foolish. Even though he actively questions his actions.
>>501747448>And yet somehow he still somehow it takes a random girl for him to remember Maria actually DIDN'T want him to destroy the worldIt's called build up. His brain is scrambled, and there are multiple instances where he starts to regain the full picture. Amy's speech is the tipping point where he realizes "Oh shit, I have fucked up.".
>Silver thread #2206Man, just post Shadouge already, that was more entertaining
>>501708151>>501708369movie games are not and have never been real games, cutscenes are a clumsy way to tell a game storykojima always just wanted to make movies instead of games
>>501745606>There is a world of difference between a human operator and a direct computer control.I get where you're coming from, but Eggman's bots already run on Ai, and in a world where an organic creature can run faster than sound I don't think this holds nearly as much water as you imply.
>>501748052Stomp the flying rat.
>>501744605Am I really living in a timeline where not putting 06's story on par with SA2 is considered "bait".
>>501747492What you are considering for Sage is literally just something Eggman doesn't need her for. The whole idea of precision and accuracy doesn't really matter because it doesn't make the same Badniks Sonic literally runs through any more of a threat for him. Be they from Sonic 1 or Sonic Forces, they're just fodder. The most threatening she can be is a piloting mini-boss mechs, but then Orbot and Cubot also did that in Unleashed.
>>50174820806 apologists are the worst.
>>501741993*gives friendly buttsmack*
>>501747878
>>501747887No one likes fools. No one likes Knuckles getting tricked multiple times. No one likes Sonic being made into a retard for Lost World or Sonic Prime
>>501747351That's nonsense. Apparently anyone can just get rings or build a portal. Amy is an adventurer in her own right, and Rouge has both money, connections, and technical knowledge. Both of them could easily find their way to Earth.
>>501747882>Sonic>Tails>Knuckles>Shadow>Pachacamac>Silver?>5 to 6 mobian males>Blaze?>Marine?>>Amy?>Tikal?>3 to 4 at best (No Rouge)He either summons Sally and Bunnie from the vault, or he makes his OCs
whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf whisper the wolf
>>501748226>Orbot and CubotIt was just two generic bots (or Eggman himself in the SD versions)
>>501748451intriguing
>>501747887Because the canon is that Blaze is from the Sol Dimension. The moment you readdress Silver's arc and their relationship in '06 you have to:1. retcon Blaze (retcon the soft-retcon) to her future origin and canonize the reincarnation lore and further undermine Blaze's agency as a character2. keep Blaze's Sol Dimension backstory thereby undermining the strength of their relationship entire impact of her sacrifice Sega doesn't want to pull the trigger on choosing one so we get the worst of both.
All I know is if a Silver game somehow gets announced and then the news hits that it's "written by Ian Flynn", it would the only warning sign I need to recognize that the game is fucked on arrival.
>>501748451Silver....
>>501747764>Because Blaze is already her own character with her own interesting personality and settingAnd thus she can't have a relationship with Silver?>06 only manages to muddy the waters and turn her into a boring mentor that only undermines Silver as a character by making his choices and sacrifices for himAnyone who calls this "muddying the waters" or complains about it don't know what they are talking about. Silver and Blaze were friends, equally trying to save the future. Blaze was more resolute than Silver so when Silver started to question himself (which is fine since the whole point of the story is about his growth) she gave him advice and made the sacrifices he wasn't willing to make. A post 06 Silver and Blaze wouldn't have the same relationship, in large part due to the fact that Blaze doesn't even remember Silver from 06. The only reason stuff like IDW still keeps them in that realm is because no one writing IDW actually gives a genuine fuck about Silver and just wants him to be a naive kid.
>>501747448Deceived implies that Mephiles even tried, just shows up shows Silver a picture of Sonic and says he's your guy
I havent nut to Whisper in a long timeIt's time to change that
>>501748451You're going to the cotton fields, wolfie girl.
>>501744906https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsnj9M2eXM
>>501747956And the same could be applied to Silver and Mephiles. He starts out desperate but as he begins to doubt things and learn the truth he eventually realizes what he needs to do. I don't have an issue with how SA2 executes Shadow's change, but acting like its any worse than Silver's is dumb.
>>501748165>cartoons don't have to make sense!... So we're going with this copout. >>501748226Sage is a sapient AI, and is thus capable of adaption and improvisation. Being able to mix up your strategy and tactics means everything.
>>501748693>keep Blaze's Sol Dimension backstory thereby undermining the strength of their relationship entire impact of her sacrificeThis just sounds possessive because it's implying Silver and Blaze can't have any kind of friendship if she didn't meet him first even though it still doesn't matter since the game erases itself anyway.
>>501748208When you don't have an actual retort beyond a reaction image? Yes. Maybe you're letting your opinions of 06 as a whole color the actual quality of the stories? And mind you, I'm not defending Sonic's.
What would Amy or Rouge add to the movies that isn't>shipping fodder for Sonamy and Knuxouge>having female blobians at all
>>501748979The difference is that Silver is an annoying twerp, and thus nobody cares.
>>501748743>And thus she can't have a relationship with Silver?She can, but it needs to be more than"epic 06 reference". And settingwise, getting the two of them together beyond just general Sonic's Friends get-togethers feels contrived due to their wildly different settings.
>>501748743>And thus she can't have a relationship with Silver?She could, if instead of rewriting her backstory, changing her characterization, needlessly convoluting her lore, and also making Silver's struggles and decision-making less compelling by having Blaze be the one to make those for him, rather than forcing Silver to come to his own conclusions.06 should have kept Blaze's Sol-Dimension origin and characterization, and only had her run into Silver once they both travel to Sonic's dimension/time after Silver makes the deal with Mephiles and Blaze is alerted to some horrific reality ending danger by the Sol Emeralds. They'd still be able to form an actual friendship, and it would certainly feel more real than just telling the viewer that the two had been fighting alongside each other all this time.
>>501749216A character for gir- oh wait, girls like shadow more than amy and rouge.
>>501749216... Okay, asking that regarding Rouge the Bat of all characters is an outright confession of being a troll.
Silver "Always if and when, never is" the Hedgehog.
>>501749216What does Rachael add to the movies?
>>501748785Silver being deceived could have been interesting but his whole thing can be summed up as him being inexperienced, naive, and unwilling to pull the trigger when it mattered most
>>501741993>trip.. I'm not comfortable wearing this.. >shut the fuck up and make me money, gay boy
>>501749557Sonic the Hedgehog is a potential franchise.
>>501746717Cute cool talking animal heroes
>>501748693Time was rewritten, you can have her be both from the Sol Dimension in the new timeline and from the future in the old one. Nothing is undermined unless you personally see it that way (in which case you're just making up a reason to be mad.) She will have all her agency as a character plus a connection with Silver. Which hell, she currently has anyway, only difference is that Silver is fucked over by it.
Just let Silver have his cardboard cutout girlfriend...
>>501749680I want to catch and kiss that cute pink hedgie!
>>501749216>these non-answer repliesnothing apparently
>>501746808ugly = loyalyou obviously never owned a dog
>...stop bullying fang...
>>501748226>The most threatening she can be is a piloting mini-boss mechsWhy are you ignoring her blasting the yellow out of Sonic? She's not incapable of offensive actions.
>>501749584Hell, what do Tom or Wade add to the movies? In fact, while Wade is shit, Tom is actively damaging to Sonic's image. What crack snorting retard thought it made any sense to make Sonic the Hedgehog's father figure a cop?
>>501743426>Silver's backstory hinges on the events of a game that doesn't existSilver's backstory informs his characters as someone that is dedicated to peace, naive, aggressive, straight to the point and knows great suffering. Silver can build a supporting cast in the good future that he protects and maintains.The only problems are how you can't explore his past because his original timeline was erased and the complications with his good future cast either blipping in and out of existence every time the future goes bad or always having to come with him if they become decoupled from time like him.
>>50174968506 would be better without Blaze.
We can now conclude that females make every movie worse (just like everything else).And this beyond any reasonable doubt.
>>501749407Girls don't usually like female characters unless they can self-insert into them, usually when that female character's love interest is an attractive male character. Most girls like boy characters.
>>501749557He's young and naive and full of potential!
>>501749216Gengar completely unravels sthg's coomer shit. Amy and Rouge add nothing special and it was a good thing Amy's role was switched for a human in Sonic X. Hardcore Amyfags will think that's bait.
>>501749924Exactly, and I’m a boy who likes girl characters so that I can imagine holding them close and giving them kisses.We all love fantasy, just in different ways.
>Suddenly realized after browsing some old pics that I have been coming to this general for literally over 10 yearsPull the plug. End my suffering.
>>501749216The real answer is nothing, especially as Sonic characters are from other worlds so there would be no real reason for Amy/Rouge/others to even be hereAs a big fucking stretch, Rouge could keep her GUN agent status to collect data on Project Shadow for them but that's probably not even needed in the movie universe.
>>501749584Heterosexuality. Not the teasing kind, the actual thing.
>>501749796>The only thing I have going is loyalty...
>>501749970I hate this overly positive tangle style faggot, he's supposed to be the one who grew up in a post apocalyptic world.
>>501739306This is what happens when people value men over women over gender balance. See China's former one-child policy: it created millions of Asian incels who end up trafficking pussy and raping.By refusing to add boobage like Rouge or Amy to the movies, Fowler hardly incentivizes a large subsection of men to pay to see his movie. Economics 101. At the same time, he is denying the reality of what men are attracted toward.
>>501749924>>501750052You talk exactly like out of touch 80s toy executives who have never had a real conversation with another human being, and thus have to make shit up to justified your delusional world view.
>>501749924you're mixing up little girls with adult women
>>501750116basically
>>501750068We're here forever
>>501750220This information is based on statistics. Sorry, anon.
>>501748785How much would he have to do for you to accept it? Silver had no other solutions and Mephiles has literal time travel powers, that should be proof enough.>>501749379And that can all be done. You also act like the games don't already contrive reasons for these characters to get together. Blaze literally crossed dimensions just for a birthday party>>501749395You're treating 06 the handling of Blaze like far more of a problem than it is. Which I imagine wouldn't be the case had Rush been released after 06. No one questions why Silver in Rivals is the way he is, and for obvious reason. Its simple. Old timeline, she's from the future, new timeline she's from the Sol Dimension.
>>501750220Shut up, I’m fantasizing about kissing Rouge and you can’t stop me.
>>501750068OR YOU COULD BROWSE ANOTHER 10 YEARS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
>>501749216The boys need a real brains of the operation so they can beat Shadow. Sonic isn't a good leader of Team Sonic seeing how easily Shadow beat all of them with ease.
>Pedowood shills desperately spamming their master Fowler's bullshit>>501750087Liking women makes you gay, apparently.
>>501749924>Girls don't usually like female characters unless they can self-insert into them,its the same shit with guys. nobody's favorite tmnt is leo.
where the fuck is the Crash General, or did his general died just like the franchise
>>501750295What's the difference?
>>501750375I don't want another 10 years!!!
>hetero anons had to spin this into a subtle jad at gay peopleWow.>>501750396>yes, the boys are incompetent>let the WOMEN organize and show you how it's doneI see that going over well.
>>501750396Amy is emotional and impulsive Ian, she isn't Sally.
>>501750343What statistics? The ones that were transparently manufactured via the use of focus groups and paid off "researchers"?
>>501750396>so they can beat ShadowShe literally solos...
>>501750590>Coping now.
>>501750487
>>501750396>Neo Metal Sonic has taken over MY island!And you murdered hundreds if not thousands of people. Cry the fuck more and go to hell, monster.
>>501750536STAY WITH USSTAY WITH USONE OF US
>>501750441fowler is based, he makes rougekeks seethe
>>501750201Truth Nuke. I don't care about female audience or female representation crap. Tits are tits, I want to see Rouge Big fucking Bat Tits
A PUP NAMED WHISPY DOO!!
>>501750396>>501750713>introduce a new character with no connection or emotional investment in Earth to combat the anti-Earth hedgehog with empty empathyGuys.
>>501750586>Amy is emotional and impulsive That's old Amy, not Nu-Amy.
>>501750441Amy and Rouge might as well be comic OCs with how irrelevant they truly are. Fowler has the right idea.
>>501747679Even Pete's voice is masculine compared to Fandubver
Silvaze is dogshit because insists upon itself.>>501748743>she can't have a relationshipBasically yes. Silver drags Blaze down to a supporting character because of their dynamic because that's how she was written in '06. >>501749089>It's implying can't have any kind of friendshipYes. Their relationship only exists and is meaningful because of '06. Blaze has never spoken to Shadow.>>501749685>>501750363>Nothing is underminedBlaze is Silver's Maria; she was literally written in '06 to die to complete his arc. The only reason she continues to exist around Silver is to continue this dynamic. Anything Blaze does with Silver is *about* Silver. This undermines her.>timeline shitWritten that way, but not canon.
Knuckles character regressed because there was a whole arc about him questioning his duty and then having games where he actually gets off the island and hangs out with his friends, but now he's completely obsessed with the Master Emerald and barely leaves the island.
>>501750396>>>501749216>The boys need a real brains of the operationAMYIS NOTTHE "BRAINS" >Sonic isn't a good leader of Team SonicAMY IS THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF LEADER AS SONIC. STOP TURNING HER INTO SALLY ACORN. AMY ROSE IS A M Y ! ! ! R O S E ! ! !SHE IS THE H E A R T ! ! !
>>501738141
>>501750713God it's gonna be so fucking good when Wade does this instead of Amy
>>501750318At first I thought it was a joke. Now I truly see that it was a warning.
>>501750068Tell us your favourite times, old manAnd the worstAnd the funniest
>>501751109>Wade sinks the Shadamy ship once and for all B A S E D
>>501751109>Another adaption where Amy is cucked out of this role.Kek. Bitch can't catch a break.
>>501738251He'll get his chance there's just so much you can do with him.
>>501751101Saleta using her doom power to grow a cock....
Blaze never should've been in 06.
>>501751109dang.....
>>501751087>implying "The Heart" can't be a leaderSparky, this is why nobody likes you.
>>501751042>Silver drags Blaze down to a supporting character because of their dynamic because that's how she was written in '06When written in IDW maybe. And also, why does she need to be a main character all the time? The whole cast is written to be supporting characters to Sonic despite each of them initially being prominent at one point or another. That's how shit shit works, characters aren't always going to be the focus.
>>501751248I like that an archie character exists that singlehandedly pieces together a crackship. i wonder if there are any others. maybe there's a shadamy future.
>>501750363Blaze and Silver's relationship doesn't change at all even if 06 comes first, it's still "Blaze is Silver's older sister that holds his hand because he's insecure and can't make his own decisions."06 would have been better if it just focused on Silver, Sonic, Shadow, and Mephiles, forcing Silver to come to his own conclusions on what is right and wrong, as well as hammer the point home to the viewer that other than the people he was seeking to protect, Silver was alone in his quest.Even if Silver and Blaze never met in 06, they'd still certainly end up being friends if they ever encountered eachother after the fact because of how similar Silver is to Rush Blaze due to their roles as temperamental guardians that protect the smiles of their people.
>>501751083Everyone regressed and then Frontiers happened and we pretended it never happened. This is why Sonic characters should be static.
>>501751258Blaze was planned in 06 before rush. if she is not in 06 she wouldn't exist.
How would the kids between Shadow and Maria look like
>>501747679>>501750921Yeah, Silver's voice is so bad right now that Pete Capella seems like a good alternative. I feel like Bryce will end up like Roger, his voice is hated by many, but it will still become a mainstay in the franchise. Hoping that Silver won't turn into a dumb gay retard is too much apparently
>>501751120>FavouriteBack when GHPAnon made GHP2. Was a great time here.>WorstEverything involving LCkun>FunniestCrashdow or pic related
>>501751403Stop giving some of them complex lore then, ST.
>>501751109>>501751205>>501751230>>501751323>wanting things to be trash on purpose out of nebulous spiteAlso, I thought you lot hated OCs.
>>501751327>implying that wanting to do the right thing makes you an intelligent and logical strategist.
>>501751327>>implying "The Heart" can't be a leaderWHERE DID I EVER SAY THAT!!?? NOWHERE, BECAUSE YOU MADE THAT UP!!! You don't need to be a strategist organized disciplinary intelligent whatever the heck to be a good leader. Sonic & Amy are both "leaders" who lead with straightforward action, just moving and inspiring others to follow.
>>501751370Blazefags seething that she's shit and blames Silver for it, don't worry about them.
>>501751243Narratively he's Heroes Knuckles from the future that behaves like SA1 Knuckles. Good luck squeezing anything out of that
>>501751512no, they're just Jewish baitposters
>>501751409She was made for Rush.
>>501751389gold was taken too soon
>>501741606Trip is in Knuckles comic and rumours say that Fang will also show up and he isn't just a flashback.
>>501751403>Sonic characters should be static.Kill yourself. >>501751560>WHERE DID I EVER SAY THAT!!??You literally said that being the heart is mutually exclusive with being the brains. Are you so far up your own pretentious ass that you don't even read the nonsense that you type?
>>501750201>>501750839As if i go to watch a movie just for tits.
>>501751575This isn't a contest. Silver and Blaze are both perfectly fine, albeit underutilized, characters, and complaining about one without realizing that they both suffer from the same problems is self-destructive.
>>501750363What the hell. Rush came before 06, it debuted in 2005
>>501751395Tbh Blaze never held his hand in 06, she was just pep talking to him, all she did is just "calm down man" " stop warring" and fucking kills herself cause that's an option, which makes sense considering the only flaw in their relationship is that she barely focused on in the game, RIGHT NOW she holds his hand all the time, forcing the idea that she knows better then him even tho she's very unsocial and Silver knows how to deal with his own self being optimistic and alone in an apocalypse since birth
>>501751395>forcing Silver to come to his own conclusions on what is right and wrongSilver was resolute in his decision to kill Sonic, but only questioned things after Amy. All Blaze did was state the obvious, that if Silver and Blaze did nothing, nothing about the future would change. Killing Sonic was the only lead they had, so Silver went to kill Sonic, but upon learning the truth backed off and chose to help Sonic save Elise and then his own future. Silver's decisions are his own in 06, even if they are based on incomplete or misleading information. The exception is Blaze's sacrifice.
>>501751109>>501751205Let's do it!
>>501748331trip...
THE HEART OSBORN
I love the Knuckles mini series and you won't change my mind.
>>501751818>You literally said that being the heart is mutually exclusive with being the brains.You don't know what "literally" means.
>>501751818>You literally said that being the heart is mutually exclusive with being the brains.What does either "the heart" or "the brains" have to do with being the leader? In the typical five-man-band trope archetypes, all three are separate, distinct roles. One character whose the brains with all the intelligence, one character whose the heart with all the empathy and compassion, and one character who is the leader that guides all the others. Sonic and Amy have both been in leadership positions during Sonic Heroes, and both are the same type of leader. Impulsive, carefree, rushing head-first into danger without a second thought. What makes them leaders is their exceptional charisma and infectious, inspirational energy that compels others to follow their lead. Tails and Cream are both the "brains" in their respective teams who think a lot more and advise Sonic & Amy, but neither take the lead because the one who drives the action forward is Sonic & Amy.
>>501750396OK but seriously consider this for a moment >Shadow beats Team Sonic so hard it sends shockwaves across the universe >Amy shows up to check out the disturbance and finds Sonic and friends >she volunteers to help using her Fortune Cards to come up with a battle plan to take down Shadow You get Amy in the movies with zero shipteasing and little kids remember her as that Fortune Teller who gave the boys advice on how to beat Shadow.
>>501751575Blaze was playable in two good games with her own story, meanwhile Silver hasn't been playable in a single good game and will still know jack and shit about him.
>>501752141>AMY>IS NOT>THE "BRAINS">SHE IS THE H E A R T ! ! !...
>>501752141
if amy and rouge were major characters in the eyes of the public, then the movies would feel obligated to include them. they picked sonic, tails, knuckles, and shadow because they are the most culturally relevant sonic characters and nobody else comes close.
It's been almost 20 years and Silverfags are still telling us to be patient.
Perfect way to introduce Amy to the movieverse.Tails mentions in Sonic 2 that Sonic is a legend. That means people out in the universe know about his power, and that’s why Tails found and spied on him for so long.Amy, having grown up listening to myths and stories about the legendary hedgehog becomes so enamored by him that she trains to be amazing just like him, and in the current day decides it’s time to meet him herself. Unfortunately she has no idea where he actually is, and has been traveling around Earth via Warp Ring and has taken in so much of Earth’s culture that she adores the planet.
Just finished Shadow x Sonic Generations, what did I think of it?
>>50175242410 more years trust the plan
>>501751512>wanting things to be trashThat's a bold assumption. I don't want Amy to be in the movie because she has no reason to be. Wade taking over the role after everything he learned from Knuckles would be far more appropriate AND have the benefit of making people like you seethe.
>>501752228>More jobbing to come>this time to the poker girl
>>501752446>Perfect way to introduce Amy to the movieverse.Paramount didn't do it because of difficulty, Amy isn't in the movie because she isn't relevant. Movies don't care how many hoops they have to to jump through to add relevant characters.
>>501752225>What does either "the heart" or "the brains" have to do with being the leader?... You seriously just asked what having people skills and intelligence has to do with leadership. Wow.
>>501751615Silver actually cares about people and understands their emotions and how to deal with them better then Knuckles, that's the difference between Knuckles and Silver, Knuckles is an introvert while Silver is an extrovert
>>501752510They don't care about anything thematic and narratively driven, they just want their favorite character to show up and do the thing and that's it.
Sega should just make ESP Silver canon.
>>501751964
>>501752424Imagine being a 15 year old playing 06 and seeing how absolutely dogshit it is and then at 33 you check out Sonic again because of the movies and you see people saying the game wasn't so bad and that Silver has "Potential"
>>501752293That isn't "literally" saying "the heart is mutually exclusive with being the brains." It is however, literally saying that Amy happens to be a character that isn't the brains, as that just isn't who she is as a character.
>>501752293And you interpret that as saying she can't be a leader if she's the heart? I said two things in that post.1) Amy is not the brains, she is the heart. 2) Amy is the same type of leader as Sonic. Nowhere did I imply can't be a leader. The point was that she is not Sally Acorn, that isn't who Amy is, stop trying to turn her into that. Amy leads with her heart, not her brain. The only difference between her and Sonic is that she's passionate and overly enthusiastic where Sonic is cool, calm and collected. But both are the same in being impulsive daredevils who leaps face first into danger without any hesitation, and that is how they lead their teams.
>>501752479You thought it had good gameplay that is basically the height of the Boost formula, great music, great level design (except Chaos Island because that shit fucking SUCKED), simple but fun bosses and basic but servicable writing that did the job well enough without getting in the way.
>>501751395Nah I don't think so. They're written as lifelong friends in '06 and their dynamic after '06 is meant to emulate that because of ambiguous lore. Likely she would have her own goals and barely interact with Silver at all because she has no reason to. Or simply not show up.>>501751370>Why does Sonic's only female rival that has her own emoire, dimension, super form, and set of emeralds need to be a main character?When she's not around Silver (ie, when she's with Sonic) she's a deuteragonist, not a supporting character. Same as Shadow in SA2. Personally I see Sonic, Blaze, Shadow, and Silver as protagonists.>>501751920IDW and TSR mischaracterized Silver so bad.
>>501752707But that would mean making Uwuver canon and I don't want that faggot in the series any longer.
>muh relevanceYou can't even pretend to not be corporate shills anymore. >>501752510Wade shouldn't exist in the first place.
>no one has still introduced a compelling reason to add the girlsCoomers lost.
>>501752281What does this have to do with anything? is this a gotcha statement? let it be known that 06 did better then rush and Silver is much more relevant then Blaze, shut it and stay on topic next time.
sthg makes a fangame and finishes it. describe the game.
>>501752745As someone that directly describes, yeah I fucking hate it. No amount of history revisionism attempts will ever make 06 anything other than a disaster.
>>501752924>and Silver is much more relevant then BlazeHow? Because Nakamura forces him in a game where he proceeds to do nothing?
>>501752917I mean, they already added Tails, and she didn’t really do much in the second movie.
>>501751890You're a homosexual
>>501752707It would be his boost form and i really hate that name hopefully they change it pure Silver or something...
>>501752813>And you interpret that as saying she can't be a leader if she's the heart?How the fuck else am I supposed to interpret it, moron? You want I should take the same drugs that you're always snorting? >2) Amy is the same type of leader as Sonic.No she isn't. Amy actually has a sense of empathy for one thing.
>>501752683Silver being better than Knuckles doesn't change that he's still a hothead that will eventually cause unneeded conflict and that his future is only a backdrop element at best. Good luck squeezing anything out of that
>>501752653The point is, that both are separate "roles" from the leader in a standard archetypal team. They can be merged together in some cases, but that's not universal. Tails is the brains, Amy is the heart. If either are in a leadership position, they will lead with those traits. Tails would lead with intelligence, strategy and tactics, Amy would lead with love, compassion and intuition. But on the same team with Sonic, neither of them would be the "Leader" even when they're still doing those things, because both will follow the lead of Sonic. Being a Leader in and of itself is more than just being smart or having a pure heart.
>>501753030Because he's a new concept, Blaze is Sonics rival n°5.
>>501751502>GHPIt's a shame this place didn't do more with the engine>WorstGlad LC's gone>picrelOh god how do you even come back from that
You could easily use Mephiles as a way of re-awakening Silver's memories of 06 and bring ESP Silver into canon.
>>501751120Lol
>>501752917>"If I keep ignoring all the reasons that have been given, then I win the argument!"Why do you even want the girls to be excluded from the movies? I mean aside from being a shitty troll who only exists to be annoying. >>501753037Also this. Why the hell is Tails even here?
>>501753213>Because he's a new conceptHe's just a poor recreation of Shadow.
>>501752653And you just implied that people skills and strategic intelligence are the same thing, and that you can't have one without the other.
LOL
>>501744339Bowser Jr. tier
>>501750713>>501751109>Amy is replaced by a fucking Jewish RetardMy condolences for you Amybros, I suppose we're in this togethert.Silverbro
>>501753178A problem that seems so despite to solve and he's just so enraged he wouldn't give hope no matter what to the point that his ring count goes to negative, yeah there a lot of shit to be squeezed out of him
>>501753231>It's a shame this place didn't do more with the engineSometimes I think about it then remember I don't know shit about Unity and don't have the energy to commit
>>501753170>How the fuck else am I supposed to interpret it, moron?Maybe don't jump to conclusions and put words in my mouth. >>501753170>No she isn't. Amy actually has a sense of empathy for one thing.Implying Sonic doesn't have empathy, which is entirely false and you know it. Amy is just "more" empathic than Sonic, because emotions are her focal point whereas Sonic avoids expressing deeper feelings. But Sonic is very strongly aware of and good with picking up on the feelings of others and responding accordingly. He's a very charismatic individual, which is all part of being "cool". It's that coolness and charisma that compels others to follow him, the same way Amy's overwhelming energy and compassion compels others to follow her. It's two different flavors of the same thing. Basically, Sonic & Amy's leaderships skills come from their strong independence and willingness to take action immediately.
>>501753235>>501753468Compare her to Princess Peach
>>501753486bowser Jr has and will appear in more games
>>501753182>Tails is the brains, Amy is the heart.I love how you just pointed out the existence of nuance in this concept, yet you also failed to realize that "the brains" can refer to different kinds of intelligence. Gadgets and strategy are two very different things, to the point I feel stupid even typing out such an obvious thing. >Being a Leader in and of itself is more than just being smart or having a pure heart.Then why'd you sperg out about it?
NOBODY CARES ABOUT AMY
>>501753409Blaze is literally Shadow but girl, the only thing connects him to Shadow is being a super hedgehog, he's more of a Sonic terminator at best.
>>501753557why relic?
>>501753235>>501753468Fowler probably showed something like this to Sega and Paramount.>"According to the data gathered, nobody gives a shit about Amy Rose."
>>501753696>Blaze is literally Shadow but girlno?
>>501753712Relic is cute and in desperate need of human cock.
>listen here buddy you don't have much time so listen carefully>yes, it's THAT cat>YES, she is horny and dangerous>yes, she knows you're here and is speedrunning her way to FUCK.YOUR .ASS>how a female fucks a male's ass? you're about to find out>no, you can't fight back, you can't match her lust>no, hiding won't save you>you can only run, but it's just delaying the inevitable>so here's the plan, i get the chaos control the fuck out because i'm still anally virgin, while you run like hell and pray god she finds a cuter fox to play with
>>501753557Replace the the literally who OC With Tails and you got yourself a fan
>>501751890what else do you go for
>>501753732>Shows a chart for Shadow out of context>Ignores the fact that Shadow is a common wordFowler is so based.
>>501753712Look at her!
>>501753513No we're not lel
>>501753447No I didn't, but I will assert that a leader does need both. Which is why I further posit that Sonic is NOT a leader, as he possesses neither. >>501753560>Implying Sonic doesn't have empathy, which is entirely false and you know it.Both Sonic's loudest fans and Sega themselves keep insisting that he's not a hero and just does what he does because he simply wants to. I can only work with what I'm given.
>>501750713>Defeats Shadow in like 3 sentencesI kneel
>>501753870>literally who OCah just like amy
>>501753231>GHP2Interesting.
>>501750713No... Fuck you.. I don't want this.. They won't, right?
>>501753941>posting the image of china men grabbing a random image to use for the slide showDo you also believe Sonia is canon?
>>501753941>hasn’t showed up in any trailers>isn’t getting a celebrity va>isn’t in SA2suuuurrre
People trying to talk up Blaze or Silver, just to make fun of the other is stupid as hell. They have the same problems, the same potential, and everything anyone ever uses to make fun of one can be said for the other.
>>501753798Sonic rival? checkSonic recolor? checkSonics powers? checkSerious? checkEdgy? checkRange attacks? checkTeleports? checkKeeps an emeralds at all times? check
>>501753941>Movie 4 with Silver>Nakamura wants a new game starring Silver
>Sonamy shitters are so mad that their ship is dead that they obsessively hate on Amy You are proving why that ship needed to die.
>>501753879big explosions and cool fight
>>501753658>Then why'd you sperg out about it?The point, in the very beginning, is that Amy Rose is not Sally Acorn. >>501750396>The boys need a real brains of the operation so they can beat Shadow. Sonic isn't a good leader of Team Sonic seeing how easily Shadow beat all of them with ease.This post is saying that the boys need someone like Sally. A female character who is polar opposite to Sonic, that would provide a calculative, organized approach that keeps all the "boys" in line. The post also suggests that Sonic isn't a good leader. Framing Amy Rose as the perfect candidate to fill that role, is just 100% false and inaccurate to who Amy is. Amy is not Sally Acorn. She is not "the brains of the operation", she is the same type of "leader" as Sonic. She's not the person to suggest a calm, rational, organized approach. Not at all. That is not who Amy is. That is the opposite of Amy. Amy is the same type of leader as Sonic, and Sonic himself is already a good leader. What makes both Sonic and Amy leaders is their willingness to leap face-first into danger and do what needs to be done as soon as possible, and inspiring others to follow and take action as well. Sonic does all of that with a cool, calm and collected attitude while Amy does all of that with extreme passion and enthusiasm. The rational, organized or intellectual mindset is Tails' area, which only serves as an advisory element to provide Sonic or Amy with whatever data or intel they need, which they respond with by immediately rushing on once they know what the objective is and how to get there.
>>501754004Neither Sonic or Amy possess that slow and calculating strategic intelligence, so by your own definition Amy cannot be a leader either.
>>501754268Yet it's too iconic to die, they're just making her more wanted.
The movie opinions matter too because they basically dictate the entire future of the series now. Amy not being cool enough for an SA2 adaptation is nothing less than an indictment of her importance as a character. She doesn't matter. She's just the girl. She's replaceable.
>>501752837Actually..yeah that pretty much sums up my feelings pretty well. Chaos Island was the only level I actually didn’t recognize because I haven’t played Frontiers yet, I thought it was an OC level lolI thought being forced to do the challenge levels for the keys was pretty annoying(I also didn’t like it in Sonic Generations) but they are so easy/short that it wasn’t a huge deal
I just want Amy and Rouge in the movie because they’re cute and I want to see them be cute in the movies.
>>501754004>Both Sonic's loudest fans and Sega themselves keep insisting that he's not a hero and just does what he does because he simply wants to.Where the heck do you get "lacks empathy" from that!? "Free Spirit" and "Empathic" are not mutually exclusive traits.
>>501754454>She's just the girlIan Flynn is to blame for this, all of this happened because of Ian
>>501754203>Sonic recolor?Not really.>Sonics powers?She typically can't even curl into a ball.Shadow isn't psychic, or a royal, or anything like that.
>>501754404>The point, in the very beginning, is that Amy Rose is not Sally Acorn.I... never said she was? >>501754454>Fowler's garbage fanfic>SA2 adaptationFuck off.
>>501754510I want some teen romance in the movies...
>>501754203>Sonic rivalsure>Sonic recolor?nigga what>Sonics powers?no unless you count being fast which every playable sonic character is>Edgyno not really.>Range AttacksOmega is a shadow clone got it>Teleportswhat>Keeps an Emerald at all timesfor different reasons and uses them completely different sure.
silver and blaze having sex with wade for a chance to be in the movies
>>501754698>>Teleports>whatNTA, but Blaze can teleport, yes.
Every character discussion in these threads that I observe makes it really hard to see the value in a lot of these characters outside of their funny mascot designs.
I want to see Amy and Rouge in the movie because I'm horny
Zorra
>>501751109Didn't Sonic X already replace her with Chris?
Silverfags are so delusional. Sonic games have had highs and lows because it failed to stay true to the core mechanic.In a franchise associated with speed, how exactly do they see a Silver game working???
>>501754602They keep trying to tell me he's like Goku, so I'm gonna fucking treat him like he's Goku.
tiger cunny....
AHAHAHAHAHAH YOU'RE DEAD FAGGOT
>>501754825Treat Sonic LIKE SONIC instead of projecting all sorts of nonsense onto him simply 'cause you disagree with the very notion of him simply being a carefree person who loves adventure.
>>501754715You joke but that's how Shado gets his HOLLYJEW deal with Flowler
>>501754767Every single character in this franchise has potential, and the only people who say otherwise are just punching down at everyone else to make their favorite look better. Ignore them.
>AmyWho? Is that a character from ken penders? Cool, I like unusual and rare characters.
I want to see Amy and Rouge in the-wait no I don't, those movies are hot wet trash that only get attention because everyone's been brainwashed into worshiping Hollywood. This entire conversation is fucking stupid.
>>501753914>Fowler: "As you can see, Shadow is an icon."
>>501755050sour grapes post
>>501755050yeah you definitely got brainwashed
>>501754482I mostly hated the Sonic Gens challenge gates, especially the friend ones, because they were either awkward or just unfun.Shadow Gens made them bite size challenges that can be restarted quickly and flowed a lot better. I actually had a lot of fun with the Hard challenge gates trying to really dial in movement because the stage was only like 30 seconds with instant retries.
>>501755050Shadow being in the movies caused the greatest 3D Sonic game ever made
>>501754997>mr Fowler... this will get me a Hollywood career right..? >yes shadow, now bend over and spread those black cheeks
>>501754698>>501754749It's the first thing she does.
>>501754641>Sonic recolor?>Not really.She the most Sonic looking character out there since purple can hit blue as well as those shoes of hers>Sonics powers?>She typically can't even curl into a ball.speed nigga, she has super speed>Shadow isn't psychicHeadcanon she's not,>but floating!nope, nitpicking like that can give others extra powers as well>or a royalthat's it, that's all you have to put difference between Shadow and Blaze, she has a kingdom...wow she's so different.
OPENTHEVAULT
>>501755367royal chipmunk tomboy cunny
>>501755287….why didn’t she just teleport away
>>501755305Shadow is Dark Sonic. Meaning, "what if Sonic... but DARKNESS". A "Shadow" of Sonic.Blaze is Nega Sonic. meaning, the polar opposite of Sonic. Like Knuckles, who is the Anti-Sonic. Blaze is a Girl Knuckles. Not a Girl Shadow. A Girl Shadow would be a Girl Dark Sonic, so a Shadow version of Amy. So like, Surge.
>>501752745https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJo99jkgRE
>>501754698Let us hear how Silver is Shadows clone more then Blaze then...
>>501755230Whait what does Shadow or the movie have to do with SRB2?
>>501755118KEKFowler made the right choice
>>501754906
>>501755423please dont summon him
>>501754965Sonic's character is a muddled mess, and literally every possible interpretation of him is angrily shouted down by so-called purists. Is he a mascot with attitude? >REEEEEE SOA IS DA DEVILIs he furry Goku? >REEEEEE NO HE'S THE WINDIs he a more general shonen hero? >REEEEEE NO HE'S A PARAGONI fucking hate Sonic, because it's apparently impossible to get this bland corporate shitheel's nonexistent personality right.
>>501753836W-will I at least get therapy for this.>No.
>>501755438Somebody makes into a drawing...
>>501755423Open the vault wolfie, open it, i have to show you something fun!
>>501755287>Blazefags knows less about her then Silverfagsyou guys bring shame...
>>501755502The problem begins and ends with putting Sonic in a box he wasn't supposed to be in. Sonic's character is a very simple and clean, straightforward concept. He is a free spirit who loves adventure, and doesn't care about "Being a HERO" yet has a heart of gold so he always does the right thing and cares about the wellbeing of others. Everything Sonic does is simply what he wants to do in the moment, and he's the type of person who never wastes precious time when he can be moving forward and getting things done FAST.
>>501755230ShadowGens was in development love before the movie was being made. Do you not understand how video games work? Also, not the gotcha you think it is because that game got gimped because Sega reallocated resources into making a movie level from the Shadow the Hedgehog level that should be in it.
Shadic is more marketable than Amy. Change my mind.
>>501755612This outfit is activating some neurons
OPEN THE VAULTOPEN THE VAULTOPEN THE VAULTDO ITDO ITDO IT
>>501755305>She the most Sonic looking character out there since purple can hit blue as well as those shoes of hersShe has an analogous design, sure, but she's not much more of a Sonic recolor than Tails is. You can't just call a character with any similarity to another a recolor, the word would lose all meaning.>speed nigga, she has super speedWell that's not all Sonic's powers, and he goes fastest as a ball.>nope, nitpicking like that can give others extra powers as wellI don't know what you're talking about.>that's it, that's all you have to put difference between Shadow and BlazeNot true, she's also a cat. She desires to be very intimate with people. She's graceful and sensual.
>>501755440>hedgehog>named after his coat color>has a special power only he can do>from a different time>vendetta against sonic later joins him>super form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjHn9GBoK8IEggman is fighting Bowser, my money on him
>>501755778Iizuka: We made Shadow gens because of the movieKishimoto: We made Shadow gens because of the movieIan: Shadow gens exists because of the movieYour mother: Abandoned you for sex with ShadowYou: Nuh uh
>>501755367>>501755423I want this so bad.
>>501755743I'm not a Silver fan, I am a blaze fan.
>>501751920>alone in an apocalypse since birthSilver wasn't alone. He spent his whole life asking people for answers and being surrounded by suffering. That's why he cares about smiles and people being happy in Dusty Desert.
>>501755940Bowser would tank all of Eggman's attacks and kill him. Kamek alone would solo Eggman's entire set.
>>501755778Movie 3 was pitched to Sega in 2021 you dumb fuck. I won't argue with fucktarded Amyfags.
>>501755502Sonic is a street punk
>>501756036All you have to do is to pull that nice looking lever and unlock that big heavy door, and I am all yours.
>>501756107>people being happy in Dusty Desert.Yes, all two of them, including himself.
>>501756005>Iizuka: We made Shadow gens because of the movie>Kishimoto: We made Shadow gens because of the movie>Ian: Shadow gens exists because of the movie[citation needed]And by the way, if that is true, that's a whole new level of pathetic, and you retards aren't allowed to bitch about Western influence anymore.
>>501754812Best(worst) girl.
>>501756204>Fourtunately, I also wanna fightSonic isn't Goku.
Amyfags have been seething about the movies since 2. It really shows me how entitled they feel.
>>501755463Sara...
>>501756278ntaIizuka had multiple interviews this past summer and before SSG released and he said those very wordscheck the provided timestamphttps://youtu.be/70WNcTkvMp4?si=WA69GgHgV1ZwGQfA&t=79
>>501756290best BEST girl
>>501755940>meanwhile
>>501756267*That's why he mentioned caring about smiles and people being happy, while he was in Dusty Desert.
>>501756278quite literally every single interview with iizuka asking why shadow gens was made has him say it's specifically because of the second movie putting shadow in the post credits. Shadow gens was in development "longer" than movie 3 but Movie 3 was pitched 3 years ago.
>>501756523>>501756575... I really hate that man.
>>501755908>has a special power only he can doso does like...all of them>from a different timeBeing old and time traveling are not the same...>vendetta against sonic later joins himall of his rivalsSo basically exactly what i said, a super and a hedgehog is what connects them, while Blaze other there has like 8 similarities while being different in just being royalty...see the point? she's more like Shadow then fucking Silver and you guys can't see it cuz you all following a herd mentality, someone else said it and you trust it, incapable of having your own way of thinking.
>>501756401Sonic likes fights he can afford to lose, he doesn't like fights he can't afford to lose.
>>501756278I really don't mean to be hostile but how is this new information for you? It's kind of painstakingly obvious that the movies influence the games now, not the other way around. Lightning? Hello??
Nic
>>501756675Why? It's smart.Give kids a chance to learn about Shadow with an actually good game
>the games are now written by an Archie Sonic fanboy >the direction of the franchise are decided by Western made movies How do Jap purists not rope? They have totally lost this debate.
>>501756267
>>501756764He's been forcibly separated from Tails in the middle of one of Eggman's bases. He'd be fucking pissed and unwilling to waste time with Surge here.
>>501756845Shadow literally uses movienic's abilities in dark beginnings bruh lol. Fans thought this was just for frontiers, but it's permanent. Even Classic Sonic has movie Sonic's lightning in ads made by Marza because Marza has the movie assets since they worked in the movies under Fowler.
>>501756845I don't think about the Japs at all.
>>501756845As I''ve been saying, the west won. about time we get a SatAM renaissance
silverkek
>>501756770>>501756770>I really don't mean to be hostile You're some cunt on 4chan. You are hostile by definition. >but how is this new information for you?Because I don't usually pay attention to corpos sucking their own dicks. >It's kind of painstakingly obvious that the movies influence the games now, not the other way around. Lightning? Hello??That is an objectively bad thing because "relevance" means that all the things people like about this franchise are going to go away for the sake of synergy. And you retards are celebrating it because of petty forum drama.
>>501756764That's why Metal Sonic is his best nemesis.
>>501756918Well she's not letting him go without a fight, so he may as well work through his aggression by beating the living shit out of her.
>>501756681ah yes Blazes similarities being…..she’s fast (never seen a sonic character like that) and used an emerald woah it’s like a mirror
>>501756845I have never spoken to a jap purist fan who was actually an intelligent person. They're usually just belligerent retards repeating shit they heard on youtube. I don't like westshit either but Jap purists are not smart at all. They have been given sign after sign to abandon ship and still think maekawa writing is in the cards at this point.
>>501743064Stop bullying Shadow he will cry (again)
>>501751101Yes, cropped porn, very funny.Anyway, how's 8th grade going?
>>501757087fiona's smelly pits
>>501757080This is exactly what I expect if they ever did use Silver in the movies because that is pretty close to how they used him in Forces
>>501757216*Tips sign*>>501754203
>>501757087I thought that was a pic of the Biolizard going Super at first.
>>501757135Based king Fowler is giving us a movie where baseform Shadow beats Super Sonic so i'm not complaining
>>501757170Then change the wording to fit more properly.
>>501754698oh >>501757347
>>501756821>making the franchise shit on purpose by getting rid of anything that isn't in some shitty movies for the sake of sucking off some Hollywood pedophile is smart...
>>501757147I can't tell if you're saying Metal is strong or Sonic is at his best when he's fighting people who don't stand a chance against him.
>>501754926He died before Silver could even the score and fuck him.
>>501757457>shitty moviesMost people liked Wade, only Sonic fans didn't.
>>501754203The only one of these that doesn't fit Silver is that he doesn't keep an emerald at all times.
>>501743064>tl;dr: Sonic learned to dash on water
Why doesn't Sonic just keep the emeralds on him?
>>501757703they leave
>>501757454Mind you that fag got corrected by Blazefags, and you can easily see he's barely denying any of them, give it a rest, you got slapped with reality
>>501757517You're missing the point. He's saying that Sonic's best rivals are the ones he can't afford to lose against, since it forces Sonic to get serious.
just accept your new ruler
>>501757147>AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>>501757724But like why tho?
>>501757730on the fact that she can teleport.
>>501756818evil
>>501757730Touch my belly button.
>>501757528They should add the minions to the movies next, that'd be really popular with the masses
>>501751502>crashdow is "funniest"You partook in the destruction of the original community spirit
>>501757646>Sonic only needed to dash on water to beat the Chaos Emerald empowered god of destructionalso why the fuck can't Shadow do the same? He needs cuck surf
>>501757852Eggman really fucked him over that time.
how do you not know that the movies run this ship already
>>501757649I would like to see it
>>501757703>on himwrong idea. he should shape them into emerald spoiler] butt plugs
>>501757528>"Only the people the thing was supposed to be for didn't like it. Pft, losers."I'm about to grow a second mouth just so I can scream loud enough.
I just saw Trip and Fang kissing...
>>501758095I hate you
I hope the first 5 minutes of the Sonic 3 Movie are Shadow's past so I can enjoy Maria's death as quick as possible.
>Is more relevant than your favorite character outside of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow
>>501757985He learned to grow a boat out of his butt. isn't that a feat?
>>501757972wow, so edgy, so coolrough will surely learn the lesson
>>501757539He's not a rival, he's not serious, he's not fast on foot, he's not edgy, his ranged attack are based on environment not on his power and his teleportation is controversial at best and doesn't use any emeralds. i can't believe i have to explain a naïve psychic to you.
>>501757779So he is saying Metal is strong.>>501757987What about him jobbing to a door in Sonic 4?Or a wall in Mania?
>>501757649Maria approves of this ship. ... This ship with is, in some capacity, a thing now. >>501758019I unironically like the idea of fujo Rouge. She would.
>>501758212>humanNo where near as sexy so it doesn’t matterNobody cares about human characters
>>501758223Silver is the goofy one, the edgy one is the black hedge
>>501757930Crashdow was the culmination of "classic" era sthg
>>501758226I'm not going to argue with an Uwuverfag.
>>501757972If the skunks didn't stink so bad Silver would have raped them for what they did.
>>501758141You wanted to see fang and trip kissing too?
>>501758226>he's not edgy
He will join the games one day
>>501758312There are plenty of good human characters. Like Topaz. >the G.U.N called "T" who retrieved Gerald's journalFuck you, I can dream.
>>501758019>>501758264THEY'RE DRUNK WTF
>>501758226>he's not seriousHe is in the games>he's not fast on footLike Tails?
>>501758035I mean, I guess. But speaking frankly, it makes sense for him to keep them on him at all times.Until Shadow and I guess Silver, he was the only character that could actual make use of them in a practical sense. Going Super is so routine for him you'd think he'd just always have them, or at least one.
>>501758252>What about him jobbing to a door in Sonic 4?>Or a wall in Mania?Was he racing with Sonic at those times?
>>501758226>teleportation is controversial at bestWhat the fuck does that mean
>>501758402There's also the time where he paralyzes Sonic with psychic electricity
>>501758543>Abe and Shadow get drunk together>start discussing their history together>with inhibitions down, there is emotional vulnerability
are you guys actually surprised that people like a famous celebrity
Is Silver edgy? i thought he's more of a confident blunt
>>501758808Yes, because Beyoncé betrayed me in my lowest point.
>>501758850Silver isn't edgy, he's a hotheaded boy scout.
>>501758808>famous celebrity... Who?
>>501758252The dichotomy between Sonic and Metal Sonic is the crystalization of Sonic's main conflict as a character. Nature vs technology, freedom vs oppression, potential vs limitation. Sonic, is a symbol of freedom, nature, and potential. He embodies the spirit of life and the unpredictability of nature. He gains strength from the wild. He's a free spirit, untamed and driven by his beliefs, embodying the essence of individuality and the power of self-belief. His speed and skills aren't just arbitrary physical attributes, they're representative of free will and the potential of natural life.Metal Sonic is a creation of Dr. Eggman, the man who wants everything Sonic doesn't want, and doesn't want everything Sonic wants. Metal Sonic represents technological dominance, the rise of artificiality, the overbearing control, and its limitation. He's a testament to the power of technology and the potential of artificial intelligence and robots, their greatness, and horribleness. But his defeat by Sonic is also a stark reminder of the limitations of artificiality, the spiritual strength real life has over technology. No matter how great or deadly artificial life can become, life (Sonic) can overcome it. Despite matching Sonic in speed and skill, he lacks the spirit and belief that TRULY defines Sonic. His goal to prove himself superior to Sonic, to be the REAL Sonic, no matter how hard he strives for it, even rebelling against his creator to realize it, can never be anything more than a buggy programmed directive. He's intelligent, fast, dangerous, difficult to predict, but fundamentally incapable of being anything more than a Metal Sonic. He can't choose who or what he is the same way a living being can. The stark contrast between the two characters, the tensions between nature and artificiality, freedom and control, potential and limitation, spirit vs material, is what makes him THE Anti-Sonic. Shadow can't compare. He's just a "dark" Sonic, a Vegeta.
>>501758850No, he's like TFS Trunks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_LG5MP71jY
>>501756675Mi amigo did you actually believe that Shadow Gens and Movie 3 was a COINCIDENCE?
>>501758708He never uses that at all,not even in comics it was mentioned, just in generations, plus his 'teleport dash' in 06 is a quick dash, not a teleport.
>>501758538I’m sorry… she just can’t compete with the fluffy midgets
>>501758850Silver is the kind of guy that has so much love for the world and its people that he'd brutalize anyone he sees as a threat to the innocent. He literally mocked Sonic once he had him dead to rights, and would have ripped him limb from limb if left to his own devices. He's different from Shadow's cold and detached kind of edgy, but he's still edgy.
>>501758850have you seen his 06 scenes?
I would like to see Silver manipulating with someone's mind. Not changing his will, but to create some confusion or to push slightly someone into doing something they were unlikely to do
Why does this thread smell like dirty diapers and baby powder?
>>501758850He's about as edgy as Blaze
>>501759016Dude stop beating your poor computer IT'S ALREADY BROKEN INTO THOUSANDS OF PIECES
>>501759196I think Silver should be mostly physical ESP, with the mental aspect being his weaker suit.
Will it happen?https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/499065754/#499081994
>>501759238Sallyfags
>>501758252>>501759016As a creation of Eggman, Metal Sonic represents everything that Sonic stands against. He's the ultimate culmination of everything that is most dangerous about Eggman, on a personal level to Sonic. He's artificial, created to serve Eggman’s tyrannical ambitions. He's a tool, devoid of real personhood, existing only to fulfill his creator’s directives. No matter his actions, he can't escape that.He's a mirror image of Sonic, but devoid of everything that makes Sonic who he is. His spirit, his freedom, his individuality. His connection to nature, and the spiritual power it holds. It's permanently beyond Metal Sonic. He is the embodiment of Sonic’s antithesis, a stark contrast to everything Sonic stands for. This even goes beyond thematics or philosophical contrasts directly against Sonic's specific characterization. Metal Sonic is a personal affront and insult to Sonic as well as his greatest threat. A challenge to his very sense of self and the legitimacy of his existence. The theft and distortion of his identity, something that bothers Sonic on a more personal level. He’s a perversion of Sonic’s identity, a mockery of everything Sonic stands for. Losing to Shadow is just another loss. Losing the Metal Sonic is the end of everything Sonic is and everything he represents. It's not an option.https://youtu.be/-XYFNulUbQA
>... Rouge, I sent you to retrieve information on the temporal disturbances. This is 50 GB of drawings depicting Shadow and I engaging in lewd activities.
>>501759280Yeah, he shouldn't be able to mind rape anyone, but just disrupt it momentarly
>>501759246>Calm and kind on the surface>Incredibly violent when pushed too farFair.
>>501759016>>501759367fucking metalkeks again
>>501759056I'm surprised that cube didn't explode.
Reminder. "Silver Rape Fag" is not correct. He did not rape her. She pretended to be raped because she wanted Silver's dick.
>>501759246Blaze is canonically a racist, that's pretty edgy by modern standards.
>>501759175yeah, being angry does not really mean edgy,
>>501759064To be fair, Topaz herself would agree with that assertion.
>>501759492silverrapefag is cringe and should fuck off
>>501759619He didn't draw rape. The power scaling doesn't allow Silver to rape her. Do your research before making accusations.
>>501759064I second this
>>501759016>>501759367You never cease to amaze me, Metalfag. I thought after you got married you'd stay away from this place.
>>501759492Silver rape fag has always a hidden lore...
>>501759450-are always right.
>>501759407It would be cool as a last resort thing, where he's out of options and it's just barely enough to get him the upper hand.
>>501759498really mister >“I’ve lived in this apocalyptic waste that everyone calls literal hell my whole life”
>>501759708It's just a copypasta of one of her posts.
>>501759758>"Cum yourself,NOW!"
>>501759712off model garbage, fuck off silverrapist
>>501759492Nobody wants Silver's dick, everyone knows Blaze is hot for Sonic like every other woman in the series. Silver is a rapist.
>>501759712This is so cute
>Playing Shadow Generations>Get to the part where Maria shows Shadow her red panties with the words "bad girl" on them>Shadow starts screaming "WOOOOOO CUNNY CUNNY CUNNYYYYY!!" and cryingclassic Japan moment
Would Silver rape Shadow?
>silver rape shit>metalkeksoh nonononono
>>501760002>Nobody wants Silver's dick,To be fair, Silver doesn't have a dick anymore.
>playing shadow generations>mina mongoose shows up>Talk to her>says that now that I've found her, i can never see her again>mina disappears>look online>no one else has spoken of this>nobody is going to believe me if I post?anyone else
>>501760146Shadow is the one person he couldn't rape
>>501760164Cream the Rapist
>>501760146why would he rape his dad?
>>501759712>I'm peaceSaid the literal pirate genocider, that's her peace?
>>501760234correct
>>501759808That's what women find 'cute' about him, you have everything that should've turned him into a sociopath yet he's still very much wants to approach and be approached by others.
silver rape chad should draw maria and silver having consensual sex while shadow watches and maria says "your cock is so much bigger than shadow's silver" and give silver a humongous cock.
>>501760345Peace through an incredible amount of violence against bad people is something both Silver and Blaze believe in, so yes.
>>501759391>Oh there was a disturbance alright, IN MY LOINS
Silver can't rape someone who's body can become intangible. Silver is off the hook.
>>501760469Peace through killing the innocent isn't exactly something a hero would do
>>501760582Crashbros… Our innocence is proven!
>>501760709>against bad peopleYes, what's your point?
am i supposed to believe silverrapefag didn't draw rape because the character in question is immune to psychic powers. i bet he just didn't know that. bro just be proud that you drew rape bro, we've all drawn rape here.
>>501760345the pirates were evil
>>501756204Lazy edit
>>501760745>>501760582Oh, that’s why Shadow kept coming back for more Bandicock
>ShadowYearns for anime girl ass he never got>Metal SonicGETS anime girl asshttps://youtu.be/yNpMiT5qpyI
>>501760901This. Just own up to it
>>501760901Well... no one ever accused Silverfags of research
>>501760901dubious consent at worst
>>501760901I thought we all wrote rape here in between DTM, TDOSTH and the whole trend of writing rapefics.
>>501761286it was rape
>Crash rapes Shadowthis is ok>Fowler rapes Shadowthis is ok>Sally rapes Shadowthis is ok>Krack rapes ShadowMORE than ok>Silver rapes someoneBADThe lesson. Silver should have raped Shadow
>>501761304During that time there was a surge in writing fics, both sfw and nsfw, due to this place being "pro-fic", but the only fics anyone talked about or read were DTM and TDOSTH so everyone else just stopped writing
>>501761536>surge in writingWHERE
>>501761536Nobody ever said this place was pro-fix, TDOSTH got away with it because it was a shitpost
I love fox boys
>>501761536None of the fics people like in this general are all that genuine.
>>501761010
>>501761853I like Scribbles fic
>>501761536It's less "pro-fic" and more that no one here reads them unless they're memeshit
>over 100K likes
So i found this:https://www.tumblr.com/clownputo/730466929962303488/i-got-no-new-art-just-headcanonsNow the question is, who has the biggest dick based on body ratio of these animals?
>>501756401
>>501762071I don't see how that proves that Sonic acts like Goku
>>501761972This entire story is built on the premise that Shadow and Sally have to stop Eggman from turning everyone into Boomdow after Shadow was brainwashed into fucking Sally so hard she had to use a wheelchair. Still counts.
>>501761529>shit post>shit post>shit post and meme shipping >standard self shipping nonsense >legitimate thoughts of a human not even trying to hide behind a shit post
>>501762132Sonic likes to fight.>how do you knowI am Sonic and I like fighting.
>>501760252>Maria mistakes Amy for Shadow>Amy is going to mention how dumb that is...>Until Amy realizes she has been making the same mistake with Sonic for years
>>501762010It was peak meta era but I enjoyed it for what it was
>>501762159Different fic with a different tone
>>501762064idk
>>501762159That’s genuinely Crashdow tier
>>501760252me when i see amy
>>501760901It's a bad 15 min scribble that meant to cause commotion, i am proud of it.
>>501762430can you draw a chao
>>501762430Can you draw Silver's juicy butt in a thong?
>We are stuck with All hail Shadow as his theme for the rest of eternityIt's just not fair
>>501761529Rape is okay if a male is the victim. It shows how weak he is as a man to allow himself to be raped.If a woman is the victim like in the Silver pic the outrage is justified. Men should protect women, not harm them.
>>501762349If I am seeing this right, the very top of this image is a flashback to the shadally incident
Good night.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnyPy3Qey2A
>>501762813Exactly! Body & Soul by SPEED should be my theme
>>501762430Draw Silver fucking Maria consensually with the biggest dick ever.
>>501761667When you start writing it>>501761853There were some people trying to write genuine fiction, but I don't know if they had many fans
>>501762226Nope it was a shitpost to people believing his weak. i don't know where did you get the headcanon from. and before you say"she looks like a human" that's better then looking like a child.
fitting into society - being happy
>>501763117i don't understand this entire post
TCOSTHThe Crime of Silver The Hedgehog
>>501763346what’s the crime? >rape
>>501762349I know I'm going to sound like a nonfan if I'm wrong about this but did the Black Arms show the ability to create illusions and mind control people before the manga? Where is that from? I thought Doom was only able to show the past.
>>501763152>Sonic The Hedgehog>Amy Amy Rosehuh
>you're either a rapist or a virginthis is what bad writing does to a mf
>>501763435Being gay as hell
A fanfic where Silver has to prove against all odds that he didn't use his psychic powers to rape someone and it was actually mammoth mogul forcing the girl to ride him meaning silver is technically a rape victim
>>501763706Might be the first fix to surpass TDOSTH
>>501738141Sequel?
All hail Shadow’s cock
>>501763859You say it like both are bad.
>>501763859>The Dick Of Silver The Hedgehog
>>501738364more like SHIN Nakamura
>Nazo Unleashed has five times as many views as the sonic 3 trailer
Remember when people were pushing for Spyro raping Silver to try and stop Crashdow and it flopped.
>>501763331just change his with he's
>>501764249Crashdow was actually competently written so any seethe it caused was futile. There is nothing more dangerous than a shitposter who is effective at their skill. We are fucked if anyone from here ever musters up the motivation to make a fan animation or a game.
>>501739306>Movie discussion not ruined by millennial male goonersGood
which boy should plap silver's cheeks?
Moviefags make the most kino fanart imaginable
>>501764430No, it was not also there are openings of it made
>>501764682I hate Fowler.
>>501764682Nice to see Rouge with accurate SA2 boobs
bake
>>501764249No, I remember one of Crash raping Sonic because people thought “paragonfags” were “allied” with Crashdow posting and an attempted one of Tails x the dad from Croods that everybody mocked the guy out of not doing it.
>>501764983>>501764983>>501764983
>>501760164>>501760253I want to be raped by cream....
>>501743815Rapeseed
>>501765083Whisper would say this
>>501751502Toyjo sisters...
>>501755367>VaultThey're called "seals" anon
