Previous: >>501740734>NewsVersion 1.3 "Virtual Revenge" Special Programhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWZKv08DRvsAgent Record | Hoshimi Miyabihttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/34802014Agent Record | Asaba Harumasahttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/34655227>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-E2gjaiMhIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N_o6OwOyd0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcjFp9_0flo>Upcoming Events for 1.3Full 1.3 details and events: https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/126603All-New Program - 06/11 - 17/12The Mystery of Arpeggio Fault - 06/11 - 17/12Virtual Battlefield Mayhem - 11/11 - 25/11"En-Nah" Assistant Program - 16/11 - 02/12Data Bounty – Combat Simulation - 22/11 - 27/11"En-Nah" Into Your Lap - 27/11 - 17/12Help Kai - 02/12 - 16/12When Sandwiches Come A Knockin’ - 04/12 - 16/12Advanced Bounty – Routine Cleanup - 11/12 - 16/12>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTHSAHLWFEFEZZZ4PCSGJADSHBF>Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpilehttps://rentry.org/ZZZFriends>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/N1G82uYh
Keep posting corin rapelogs
>>501759558what did she eat to produce such braps?
remember newcuties dont fall for the obvious bait
burger date with Anby...
Agents whose nudes have leaked in cannon?
Okay, I got this.
>>501759717nicoles for sure
>>501759689half the thread has been obvious baits x replies for the past 2-3 days its fucking grim, meanwhile /hsrg/ and /gig/ are dead, the raidcucks alternate between hoyoslop threads I guess, if the thread is too fast you know somethings wrong
ENTER
We need more robots, thiren, and onis as playable characters.
Shiyu is still too easy, double it again
Favourite agent Favourite part of female body
>>501759739>Ellen has implantsBeauty standards are getting crazy these days, teenagers getting cosmetic surgery
I tried Yanagi with a Rainforest Gourmet and Qingyi and Rina, and it feels good enough and pretty braindead and comfy to play even if it's fairly suboptimal.
>>501758602why would i keep going past 25?
>>501759684My stroganoff.
I really really like Nicole.
I got reeeaaally close to finishing the tower using only Piper/Qingyi/Lucy the whole way, but this FUCKER and the brute with him beat me up so badly that I was left with almost no health to deal with the ballet twins. I did ALMOST get them a few times, especially after swapping Qingyi out for Ellen, but this shit needs Caesar. I'm probably going to abandon the set to get Caesar in.
>>501759813>ZY>Asshole
>>50175983530 is the final reward, which is a title, anything above is bragging rights
>>501759406what do you mean the clear grade? The s rank? all my characters are alive if that is what you meanI pretty much justed use yanagi caesar and jane though
>ended up using Piper/Burnice/Lucy against tower 25well that was painful, I barely got to spin2win with either character
>>501759813SoukakuCollarbone
>>501759813>Burnice>Nipples
Am I the only one that started playing after the Burnice music video?
>>501759889I was at that for hours, and my hands hurt now.
>>501759813NicoleFace. I don't care how good the rest of your body looks, if your face is ugly I do NOT want to kiss you. I'm a massive kiss fetishist and I really just want to kiss super cute girls on the mouth. I could probably orgasm from kissing alone. When I'm reading fluffy romance manga, I get a boner when they kiss. Give me a cute face and some kissable lips and I'm in love. Thighs are nice too though.
>>501759936I am currently raping corin
I'll need a mod that replaces his model with Harumasaboo.
>>501759835For the cool badge on your nameplate.
>there's F2Poors who won't be able to get Yanagi and Miyabi and YaoLmao have fun never clearing Shiyu ever again kid, next Shiyu after will have 40 million HP
>>501759813Miyabiface > thighs > ass > boobs > stomach > feet > pits
>>501760040bwo...
I finally got an S-rank on the Ballum mission in hard modeThat they put a 4 minute requirement on that shit is fucking evil
Mibibi.... LOVE!!!
>>501760080This guy could have been cool if he was a cute girl
>>501760126i skipped
>>501760040
>>501759936
>>501760027I'm the opposite. Ugly girls with bomb bodies is my thing. I went to college with an absolute beater but her body was a 10/10. She was so desperate for male attention that she did everything I asked of her.
You guys do have this on your profile right?
>>501759813ZhuTummy
>>501760220IdolGOD?
>>501759813Pulchratail
>>501760080This looks so jankyLike what pose is he even taking while in the air?It kind gives off a fighting game feel where animations are cancelled to do something else but just looks fucking weird from this perspective
>>501759813JaneNose (It's not the most exciting part, but it sure is important)
Imagine if Lighter was some tryhard too-cool-4-U punch girl. Everyone would roll.
>>501759558Good OP
>>501760391no because he's a stunner
>>501760385I sucked on a girls nose once
THIS Is What Happens When You Actually PAY Your Animators
>>501760284How did you kiss her? How did you hug her and stare into her eyes? How did you wake up to her laying next to you and stare at her sleeping face?
It ain't easy being cheesy
>You fucking WHOREWhich ZZZ character comes to mind?
>>501760027Why do you like Nicole then
noooo, don't you dare raise hp of monsters by 10%!!! how am i supposed to clear the game with my f2p billy, this is powercreep, this is beggar discrimination!
>child nicole was pure, innocent, and caring>adult nicole is a scamming slutwhat went so wrong. Is it the society?
>>501760391the fujos/homos need something to pull for bwo, let em have one male char
reminder that either aptitude is possible one of the most single important aspects in advancing in this universe
>>501759813LucyEvery partI love it allI love the female formI observe their body like an artist gathering references
>>501760429Don't we want more stunners than Qinyi and Enby?
>>501760023twins was not fun. I also used Piper and they dont go well together at all. good job if you cleared with that team
>>501760537
>>501760601i have lycaon, koleda m3 and qingyi so i don't need him
>>501760475H-HAYAI!
>>501760548this but unironically
>>501760541She's pretty. Also I like hair and hers looks very soft and fluffy.
>>501760391We need m*les in this game, how else am I supposed to save for all the cute girls? ZZZ is rough enough in this regard, practically every banner is female, I'm running out of 50/50 luck here.
>>501760494It never really bothered me. Her body mixed with her insecurity was such a turn on. Thing is she wasn't even THAT bad. Just some bad acne, dumb looking glasses, and a weird ass looking chin
>>501760475>ZZZ if developed by Game Freak
>>501760537Corin
>>501760642we've already established that nicole seems like a slut but is actually a virgin, one of those chars>>501760537yanagi
>>501760210This can be also fixed with mods.>>501760383He throws his bowblades lke boomerangs, does a frontflip, breaks gravity to pick up the blades midair and shoots an arrow while doing a cool spideyman pose before landing. All in 1 second.
>>501759813YanagiThe brain
>>501760536Kek I kinda respect the edited in ears. Pretty funny.Also do not remind me of the ZZZ Cheese Touch.
Nice, I got Corin to agree to do lewd stuff and then called Lycaon and told her his maid is whoring herself out. Now she's fired top KEK!
>>501760739
>>501760567I'm surprised they would still be interested in this game honestly, there has been barely any male shilling compared to genshin and hsr
How goes the saving during these trying times?
BREACHING
>>501760567>>501760656>>501760707Ok but, BUT, how hard would you roll for genderbend Lighter?
Why are a bunch of my mods causing this to happen? Is it the mod loader or are the mods just out of date?
Lucy's ultimate is the best ultimate in the game and I'm not joking
>>501760881i said no
>>501760881no because I need to save for mibibi
Don't forget to do your new weekly
>>501760856one of the most recognizable franchises on the planet by the way
>Yenless Yen Zero
>channel double flame with burnice>get hit by enemiesBros....?
>>501760887You gotta get the 1.3 fix from Gamebanana, all Hoyogames break mods with updates, but even right now I think the fix isn't fully finished yet.Be patient bwo.
>>501760887WHAT DID YOU DO TO SOUKAKU YOU BASTARD
>>501759813>Favourite agentNicole >Favourite part of female bodyI like the whole package if you know what I mean
>>501760583neat lore
>>501760879I love bangboo
>>501761098I wish girls with dicks were real
>>5017608871.3 broke a lot of shiti think you still have to manually fix the normal maps and disable high-precision animations
>>501759813>Favourite agentZhu>Favourite part of female bodyFace
>>501760871sniff
Nicole's trust scenes are shit
>>501759558I am at 5 pulls right now and 0 pity on both the limited and weapon banners. I am on the battle pass and welkin. Will I be able to get meebs and her weapon?>inb4 she is useless without Yanagi under M2Getting Yanagi and her weapon is the reason I am at 0 pity
>>501761098I love girlcock so much bros, I'm so tired of gay ass futa on female, futa on male, or male on futa is PEAK and you cannot convince me otherwise you government faggots.
>>501760887Get the newest fix from Gamebanana, and normalmap fix, current patch broke a lot of things after devs changed a lot of things. Also disable one option in graphics that's called "prefect animation" or something like that, it's also bugging out mods.
You will pull Mibibi or you will suffer.
>>501761035Which one is that?
>>501760553doesn't she donate a large portion of what she earns
>>501760856thanks, that's exactly what i had in mind, that single webm lives rent free in my mind for eternity.
Is Ellen the only character with 2 in-game models?also New Eridu beach area when?
incredible things are happening over at miyabi twitter
>>501761284>less than 2 months difference btw
I haven't done the story yet, but I remember the tower said that ethereals can become [DEMONIZED] or some badass thing like that, was there any mention of it?
>>501761326as long as corin is getting raped, her ears will continue to grow
>>501761434There are a couple of enemies that transform.
>>501761234>Will I be able to get meebs and her weapon?with good luck on the 50/50s and rolls both possibly, otherwise you'll need to load up the JP vpn and first time topup>inb4 she is useless without Yanagi under M2stop taking shitposting seriously
>>501761321>Is Ellen the only character with 2 in-game models?no
>>501761321Yes
>>501759813QingyiAss
>>501761302Just press F2 retard
>>501761234remember that 1.4 is supposedly not gonna be 6 weeks and no one knows how short it'll be. the answer to your question is no one knows.
Miyabi is a hard skip, she is full on whale bait.Imagine making an anomaly unit that doesn't give a fuck about anomaly proficiency but only cares for Crit.There isn't a single F2P anomaly weapon that is good for her.
>>501761434Yeah, the hacker that takes over HIA to kidnap Section 6 buffs all the enemies
>>501761284Yanagi will do the job just fine, I don't need Meebs
>>501759813S11Pits
>>501761631>F2
>>501761631That shit's not a weekly, you do it once and that's all.
I just realized I have no idea how anomaly damage works despite running an anomaly team (Lucy, Burnice, Piper). Could someone explain it to pretty please with nitrofuel on top>>501761434I think it's just a throwaway gameplay mechanic, like enemies having DT in higher difficulties in DMC (the thing tower is ripping off)
1.4 will actually only be 1 hour long so only the true Meeberheads will get her. And after that we will have 2 months of 1.4.1 consisting of only Harumasa.
Did they leak overworld Agents selected?
>>501761271>Also disable one option in graphics that's called "prefect animation" or something like that, it's also bugging out mods.That fixed the big issue, some of the mods still have weird lines going across them in some places.
>>501761672just wait for the eventual free event weapon brah
>>501761672While you're not wrong here there's also no F2P attack weapons with crit except for Neko's which is only good on phys units. You can just throw that on Miyabi to give her the crit from it, too.Not quite the same situation as Acheron where every F2P option for her is garbage, there are several anomaly engines that buff attack you can throw on Mibibi, or Fusion Compiler just for the pen.
>retards are STILL replying to the avatarfaggrim
>>501761827They did show Nekomata walking in the new overworld area
>>501761760this is atrocious and hard to look at, but just imagine what this tech will be able to achieve in just a few more years...
do we know what the new w-engines and discs do?
>>501761935Anime poster at least talks about the game, I'll give them that. This general has set a low bar for me.
skipping all those souless uggos for virtual idols
>>501761858That's the normalmap issue, if you want to bother install the XXMI launcher https://github.com/SpectrumQT/XXMI-Launcher that has the fix build into it. Easy to use and automatically pulls updates for the ZZMI model importer and other fixes. Or you can do it manually, there are also separate fixes on gamebanana
>>501762035
>>501762084Unironically still better than most generals
>>501762084All it does is say the newest character is bait or a brick and dumb fucks still fall for it.
Which agent makes you go “That’s a lot of meat”?
>>501762259Ben
>>501762035Tech is moving quickly!
>>501762217I'd rather have wuwa baiters or eceleb faggots because you can just filter it and report it as off-topic. Just extremely low quality on-topic bait isn't fun or filterable.
>>501762259
Obol squad WHEN
Soukaku? More like suck cocku. She even comes with handlebars
>>501762117Based. Either them or the new singer girl
If mibibi is so good how comes she is so tiny?
I have Caesar, Burnice and Yanagi. Will have Miyabi.How should I build teams with the 4 of them? Have built Lucy, Piper and SoulkakuRestriction: No male characters.Don't have Rina. Don't have Jane, but have all other limited characters
>>501759813>Qingyi>Ass
>>501762431I bet she doesn't wash thoroughly
>>501761716New particle effects were expected
>>501760541she's strong
>>501761771>ATK is the same>AP is basically anonaly crit. Each point increases an anomaly proc's damage by 1%>AM is basically crit rate. Each point makes the anomaly meter fill faster
>>501762497yanagi/mibibi/caesarburnice/piper/lucyez
>>501762381How much does the breast milk service cost
>>501761284
this mode is boofing my dopamine i love grabbing loot so much...
>>501760889This is legit one of the coolest clips I've seen of ZZZ gameplay. I feel like a lot of people would be sold on the game just from seeing this
>>501759558Is there any advantage to doing the highest level of the notorious hunts?
I will now roll for Yanagi
>>501762723HOLY
>>501762497Yanagi/Caesar/MiyabiPiper/Lucy/Burnice
>>501762304Kek
>>501762723>not her actual glassesit's shit
>>501762609Isn't Burnice, Piper, Lucy kind of squishy?
I only added people from here btw
How are chinks feeling about Miyabi?
>>501762569I thought Proficiency was how fast it built up and Mastery was the damage.
>>501761716should have kept her old hold attack as well instead of this boring 1.5s charging animation the only thing we will see btw
>>501762896they are not happy and are organizing a mihoyo HQ raid
>>501760889Finally someone other than me using Lucy's ult
>>501762723>give yanagi an actual good design>now shes actually hotit really was that easy
>>501762920>>501762920Other way. Mastery is only on slot 6 as well.
>transparent, basically invisible tightsis this acceptable, OLbros?
>>501759558How does it feel the be the living failure and disappointment of Hoyogameswhy can't Zenless be like Genshin and Honkai and actually make money ?
>>501761525I spent my topups on the SoC unfortunately. I got lucky with Yanagi and got an early weapon>>501761656A shorter patch? That sucks. I had hope that with two and a half banners left to save that I might have a decent chance on getting her if she appeared on the second banner of the patch
>>501762920No, it's the opposite. Proficiency = damage, Mastery = buildup.
>>501759813>Favourite agent Yanagi>Favourite part of female bodyThighs
>>501763071>being proud of being dawei's piggy bankpatheticthanks for funding our game
>>501762723>Tranny Rail Sloppano thanks
the chinese aren't happy about the tower
>>501763071Shut up and fund for my pandering content, stupid cuck.
>>501763071but enough about Honkai Impact 3rd
>>501762896They are demanding a visible tail
>>501762831Not really. Piper has a bunch of iframes if you don't hold her EX forever. Her mindscape that makes her faster also helps.
>>501763172>thinking he's seething about infinite tower>actually stuck at 15BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
So uh, why exactly do I need to roll for balls or constellations again? Last shiyu level literally obliterated with rrat+Lucy at first half + scuffed Yanagi with lvl 50 weeping gemini, seth as a pretty boy decoration and Caesar (ignore her)
>>501763342Yeah, that seems strange. Things get a bit dangerous at level 22 and above, but 15 is basically nothing.
>>501763071wagie wagie get in the cagie and roll for twinks so i can freeload in the superior game
>>501763379no one cares about shiyu anymoreits tower or nothing
>>501763379>literally obliterated>4 minsbwo...but yeah constellations are whale baitW engines are chill if you rly love the char you would make her hair glow
>>501763172He's not wrong though. Tower sucks dick because a random hit instantly kills you at the 20+ range. People keep forgetting that this is a casual phone game, not a sweatlord competitive game.
>>501762831not really unless you mindlessly hold piper's spin instead of parrying out of itbeing able to ult on on everyone will also help that team quite a bit
>>501759813MibibiMimi of the kemono variety
>>501762767>>501763278My Piper has 4 Freedom Blues, 2 ER set350 AP2200 AtkThat's good enough, right?
>>501763379Keep in mind that this is an anomaly shill Shiyu so your mileage will very in the future. But yeah, the game is pretty easy and you don't really need any mindscapes or engines to win.Not sure about those teams though. Would probably be better if you swapped Yanagi and Jane here.
I now have a need to know what purple hair Yanagi would have looked like
My blonde wives
>>501760610nah, I didn't. I don't believe I can after 24 straight levels over like 8 hours. I did get fairly close, and I was able to keep Piper alive by dodging perfectly, but I really did have to dodge perfectly because a single mistake just killed her at that pathetic amount of health.The twins definitely feel pretty anti-Piper, but I do know it's possible. Not really fun though lol
>>501763648see >>501762723
>>501763172Is this guy braindead? He will literally recover all of his hp after he finishes the floor 15 boss since he's in the easy part of the tower, dying that early is impressive
>>501763594Tower is meant to be a challenge though, not something you just clear casually like normal commissions. Variety is good.
>>501763604I mindlessly hold Piper's spin due to Caesar protecting her. When enemies attack I should switch to one of the others?
>>501763379>4 minutesbro you need to step it up or you're unironically going to get filtered next SD
>>501763626Yeah, seems good. Better than mine I think, and I cleared Shiyu with that team this round. (I don't use the ER set but it shouldn't make a huge difference either way.)
>>501763594Floor 16+ tower IS for sweatlords
>>501763267>from widest to tallest
>>501763379no problem as long as you keep rolling every new character for the shill buff
>>501762117>>501762471You can't post that while avatarfagging with the most soulless uggo in HSR
why does bell have an IN hairclip? it can't stand for interknot right? that'd be like wearing an aol hairclip.
>>501761284Is that 1.4 numbers?Because numbers increase could be because separate ult leading to higher dps
>>501759558what's the fastest/shortest hollow zero run that counts for the battle pass?
I hope Ellen 1.4 is real because I really wanna roll shark ball. I didn't realize when the game started how nice it would be to have a gajillion free crit rate so all I have to worry about on discs is crit dmg.
>>501764017Everything until 25 is relatively easy in my opinion, only after that do you have to sweat because everything oneshots you and there are no indicators
Does Miyabi have human ears, or only her fox ears?
>>501760739kek
>>501763815>>501764017That's the point. Tower should be hard in the context of a mobile game. SD hits the sweet spot where if you're sweaty, it's a breeze, but it's also challenging enough for new players and casuals.Tower would be totally fine if it healed you on each floor if you got a S Rank, or if it gave resonia.
Bricky...
>>501763823That's fine if you're using Casesar, but the important part is keeping the power stacks up. The finisher (after the spin) has iframes so you can negate enemy attacks that way. You can also swap characters at that point.
>>501759717You just know that Ellen has some titty pictures circulation in her school community after she fell asleep in the library and a couple of the boys took the opportunity to open her shirt and snap some juicy shark breasts
i'll say some nasty shit when they send the satisfaction survey
>>501764312Hot and probably canon
what now Yanagi?
>>501764174pompey still one-shots me with some of his attacks at 15
>>501764370idgi
>>501764114Probably blitz at high difficulty so you get 8k points
>>501764351same. this event is particularly shitty.
>>501764351You're not done btw, go finish the quest and they'll unlock the last 4 stages. The final one might actually kick your ass if you get bad RNG.
Now that I reached inter-know L45 should I dump all my batteries in disk farming?
>>501764426>noclips the test monsters out of bounds>Yanagi can't kill them
>>501764017>>501764174Heavily depends on the agents you have, I think. I did a Ellen/Lycaon/Rina run to 25 and it was decently difficult w/ a few resets. Then I did a Jane/Lucy/Caesar run and it was as easy as you'd expect, the rat is fucking invincible.
>>501764521Don't use batteries on discs it's a waste
>>501764210>resoniaIt's not that kind of mode>>501764351Yeah, I wasn't a big fan. And this was right after the whole TV controversy too. (I don't mind TV that much, but this was literal randomized slop with zero challenge.)
>>501763342I though this too. Casuals won't finish 25 until they get some serious power creep, and HP recovery blocked for only 5 floors isn't that bad, but for casuals it still is. The proper solution would be to grant 25% or so HP to all characters not used on the floor after floor completion. It would still promote "don't get hit" gameplay and encourage but not require players to switch up their team or be reliant on Caesar. Absolutely zero heals for endless is just poor design, even if it's a tryhard no reward mode.
I'm surprised people struggle using Piper against Shadow Jane. Frankly, it's so easy it feels like Piper's built for her (she'll even turn on a dime for the final hit of her ex to target Jane even if Jane is directly behind her).I guess if anyone struggle: remember that Piper is loaded with iframes.
>>501764013I like having ER for my characters. I guess this is a Genshin player vice (so is having a shielder/healer and going ungabunga).>>501764271I really need to improve my skills.
>>501760879Easily my favourite Bangboo so far. Glowieboo is just peak
>>501764494i'm too tired will do them tomorrow, i will just do as i did the last few stages, soldier 11 nicole and neko, then snowball and let nicole one shot everything
>>501764521Yes and no. If you want to rank up more quickly you can dump batteries on anything. But the rates will be worse at lower ranks. It's a catch 22
>>501764795Soukaku vs S11 vs Anby in a food eating competition, who would win?
>>501764521this >>501764576and wait to reach ik 50 for disks, your priority should be the core skills and other stuff for now
>>501764530Jane is so fucking good. Even if other agents (like Miyabi) powercreeps her in the damage department, she'll still be the solo queen simply because of how good her dodges are.
So, is there any way to farm artifacts for Miyabi or should I just prefarm leveling materials and maybe give her the BP weapon for her?
>>501764521I did at level 45 and I dont regret it but its not a good idea. at the moment I save batteries just for ascending agents and engines, I wont spend them on exp or disks.
>>501764872Soukaku EASILY.Anby and Orange Anby are connoisseurs, not food vacuums.
>>501763172>Dark Souls: Three WolvesIs this an MTL error or him making a joke about Elden Ring and the wolf niggas you can summon?
What's her favorite position?
>>501764923You could build or Woodpecker from the record store while farming literally any other disc for any other character but odds are she'll have a disc set made specifically for her
>>501764669I believe in you bro
>>501764923You can farm a 2P, preferably 2 out of slots 4-5-6 because they're the most annoying to farm
>>501765058Anon, it's almost certainly Sekiro
>>501762118Thanks, now I just wish the mods would apply to far lod models. They work fine in menus and on the field but in the overworld if you go too far they glitch out or turn off.
>>501763172some times I wonder if the discussions about iframes is ever thought up by the chinksbecause with iframes and parry frames THIS fucking wide, its actually FUN
>>501764872Soukaku and it's not even close. She is literally always hungry. She doesn't have an upper limit
>>501765068She's a virgin...
>>501765068nursing handjob
>>501765160Oh that makes sense.
>spent 6 hours doing combat quests>barely made a dent in my backlog
>>501765305Like me
>1.4 Changes could mean that running slice of time w-engine on your support would make THEIR ult spammableCan RinaGODs stop winning? The sag-hag keeps getting better and better.
>>501765305not for long
>>501764521Optimally you should use all early batteries as soon as you get them to get to start getting max rewards faster for double drop events
>>501765382I don't know but I just got promoted.
>>501765382In my basement
>>501765387slice of time was pretty good already but with decibel change it might be CORE
>>501765116>>501765148Woodpecker for 4-5-6?She will want critical rate, right? Will she need anomaly proficiency substats or critical substats?
>>501765382This is the Mona Lisa of ZZZ.I could stare at it for hours and spill gallons of cum, and yet my appreciation and love for it would never ever go down.Godspeed anon.
>>501765254Imagine having Lucy bitch you out as you order food>No salad? Hmph, what a pig...>ONLY 5% TIP?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!
>>501765382enjoy your vacation
>>501765346take it slow, once you run out you'll wish there was more to do
>>501764126I probably lost out on qinqyi or caesar because of it, but her ball unironically hard carried me through most of the game.
>>501764076You hate to admit it but that's not true at all
>Didnt win a single one of these all weekThey've never been so stingy with these before, wtf is going on
>>501765382
>>501765382SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF *HUFF HUFF PANT* SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF *HUFF HUFF* SNIFFFFFFF
>>501765558She wants crit and atk yes, she doesn't really want AP
>>501765674Uh? What is this?
>>501765382Mihoyo wants to release them with the penacony of ZZZ
>>501765382We're gonna get a rhythm game mode just for them, aren't we?Would be kino if we got that Uma/Gakum@s sim trainer mode instead.
>>501765613>85 rolls for a fucking NekoI'd unironically kill myself if that was my account
The art team for this game is insanely talented but I think they need to 10x their map development and stop only designing tiny arenas
>>501765382our saviors
>>501764126Is that fucking 44% crit rate with both buffs up? I didn't roll Ellen, how feasible is it to keep the dash attack buff on?
>>501765745
>>501765674It gives a capped amount of rewards bwo after the first couple days it stops paying out anything
How old is Yanagi anyway? She may look like a hag, but appearances can be deceiving. I bet she's around 27 canonically.
>>501765769More time in the oven and closed beta testing is what this game needed because these few months have been a clusterfuck
>>501765874Trivial, because her regular dash attack counts for it in situations where you don't want to do the charged scissors one, and it's really fast.
>>501765613>Ellen, sharkball, Lycaon and Koleda ball. Damn that must have been nice to play the game out of the gate like that.
>>501765769On one hand, I get you anon, on the other hand, the fuck do we need maps for??? Everything except the store, sixth street, HIA and the military base that I somehow forgot the name of where we do Hollow Zero is USELESS.
>>501765382STOP RESISTING
>>501765762At least now she's C1 so I have her special mechanic...
>>501766000>She may look like a hagShe doesn't
Jesus, Miyabi
>SIMULATED Battle Tower>This implies there is a real world Battle Tower counterpartBwos...
>>501765769you can't have both, all map designers are on Genshin team
how do you get the "most diligent store owner" title?
>>501765769>stop only designing tiny areasthat's kind of what this game is about though
>>501765551SoT is her best choice if you don't have her signature, as it is the only A W-engine that features pen%, it also gets pretty close to maxing her pen%.If Hoyo adds a support bangboo like Knightboo but for pen the she would be BiS for pen-maxer builds, crazy to see how retards don't understand that percentage bonus are good, specially if they interact with something that scales exponentially (enemy Def).
>>501766082She's literally me.
>>501766053The game desperately needs more combat map variety. Jane's story taking place inside the Ballet Twins map for example. Running past the same abandoned gas station for every commission in the outer ring as another example.
>>501765769>I need the game to be le openworldslop with 1 primogem puzzles designed to farm playtimeGo back
>>501765896I didn't find itIs that in the game or in the app?
>>501766132>>501766132be yourself
>>501766082oh
>>501766082Me. But on the flipside if I take a benadryl I'm out for 14~ hours.
>>501766120Bwooooo you gotta READ, this is supposed to simulate fighting in a hollow continuously without supplies. like JOYOUS, THE GOD OF BANGBOOS, had to fight solo and invented hollow investigation routes along the way by doing so.
>>501766082Miyabi may be a bit special
>>501766075don't forget that for an average /vg/ poster a hag starts the very second her age no longer ends with -teen
>>501766228It's on hoyolab webisite or app.
the devs should really utalize interknot more as an easy way to world build
>>501766082Yeah but does she piss herself? This is important.
>>501766045yeah haha.
I have to save Yanagi's eggs...
>>501766275joyous the god of bangboo? but he isn't the one who invented them
Oh no. I would hate to be on that list. Haha
>>501766212Oh shit, you meant combat maps, I was under the impression you meant the areas we just walk around in, seems like a couple of others were too.I absolutely agree then, but I don't think it's the end of the world if we just have a few.Would be nice to have some cool gimmick stages with hazzards though.
>>501766358Found it. Thanks, bwo
>>501766275akshually sunbringer is the inventor of bangboos and solo'd a hollow and joyous is the one that discovered how to navigate hollows
>>501765068Prone bone or barstool position while she's working. Anal only
>>501761058Stooooop, get that tranny fly away from ZZZ.
I've been absurdly lucky in this game. I'm hesitant to post my rolls because I don't want to make other people feel bad. (It's balanced out by my horrible luck in other gachas though.)
>>501766514nerddrew?!?!
>>501766569>as opposed to having horrible luck in all gachas
>>501760316What's the limit?Slowly farming levels for funzies, three dodges of Jane are stupid good
>>501765494huh I didn't know we had double drop events, good to know.I'm just really struggling with clearing shinyu content and the garden boss meanwhile my disks are shit
>>501766479>>501766514Wait wut, have I been misinformed on this general? There was an image posted with every Void Hunter and their contribution, should've figured it was wrong when they talked about him discovering the routes.Guess I was the one who needed to read.
Should I switch stances with Yanagi every 3-4-5 combo after doing it once or twice? It feels like there's no reason to do it twice before switching, but who the fuck knows
>>501766639There's an actual endless floor after 999, and the number on your badge disappears at that point.
Is pen% better than electro for Yanagi? With rina and f2p engine. And I just hit 700k+700k stun polarity procs from ult+ex. I don't have Jane, but does she hit million damage assaults with or without stun?
>>501759813KoledaAss
>>501760583>Ubermensh measurements but space cancer resistanceInteresting
>>501766416I see...
>>501766626Yeah, I get it. My luck is solidly average if you account for the whole timeline. There are people who's way worse off. This helps me cope when I'm unlucky in other games.
>>501766852uhh president?
Penmaxxing Miyabi?
>>501766928Why the FUCK did they not make Lycaon a sexy wolf girl
>>501767027Her k1 gives armor shred so absolutely no.
>>501767068Breast envy
I hate Koleda and Grace
>>501766564But that's Burnice tho
>>501767101plenty of furries are at least bi-leaning or aren't insecurre cryptofaggots and understand that male characters on screen don't make you suddenly want to suck cock
>>501767130I fucking LOVE Grace
this is so rigged it's ridiculousI haven't won a single spin in 4-5 days
>>501767027I'll be penmaxxing Miyabi if you catch my drift
>>501764094It's january's numbers but it's in line with the current HP spike we've been seeing every 2-4 weeks so I don't think it has anything to do with decibel changes.Difference between current hans and next hans (both 1.3) is 1mil HP already. The one after that is another 2mil, but it's almost 2 months later (January).
>>501767325Bro, those things are scams. There's no point in wasting your time for less than a single pull
>I fucking love (character I never actually use) and (character I save shit tons of fanart of but barely look at twice in-game) so much bros!What characters am I referring to?
>>501767471oh okay, I'll stopI got some shit from the burnice one though, not a ps5 but I got some polys
>>501767101They had to throw women and the gays a bone. Every woman I know who plays this game fucking loves him.
I did it gros
>>501767557Ellen, Lucy, Corin
>>501767291I'm fine with having male characters, I just think tall wolf girl is sexy and I want more
Have I missed anything in the past 24 hours?
>>501767557CorinNicole
>>501767557firefly
>>501767728Me
>>501767557Miyabi (she's literally unplayable)
>>501759813Soldier 11 Trigger when she's releasedCollarbone
>>501766781Bros?
>>501767846Only if you have Grace's Wengine alongside Rina and her signature.
>>501767557I abandoned anby for Qingyi without a second thought and I bare no shame in admitting it, still love her though.
>>501767652I'm stuck on the spearchucker because my Jane only has 3k hp left
>>501763594Read your corruptions Anonbro
which one of you fucks is this
>>501767557Zhu has to be the MOST forgotten unit in all of Zzz.What the fuck happened to her, she doesn't even get mentioned anymore.
>>501768083>fanfic writer with a dedicated, persistent update scheduleNobody here has the discipline to do something like this.
>>501768083Yeah, me
>>501766682>? - leader of the falkenhayn mercenary troupe, helped push dark wall back>sunbringer - eradicated "hive lord" hollow, invented bangboo>swordmaster - 3rd head of hoshimi family, took down exaltist overseer>dan - big guy, pushed back the dark wall>joyous - passed the divine maze, created the standard for hollow exploration routes>vike - pushed back the dark wall
>>501768195why are onis like this
>>501768083I don't post it online, I just goon to it myself
what's the dark wall
>>501760553>nicole is a scammerWow, you genuinely don't know a thing about her
>>501768362>tries to get free noodle coupons through disguises>not a scammer
Hag love
>>501768225wait, is Miyabi nepo hire or why is she Void Hunter in the first place, she didn't even took down Nineveh
>>501768225I get what the issue was, the image I thought about had Sunbringer and Joyous' names switched up,I was referring to the heterochromia dragon guy thinking his name was Joyous.
>>501768493The mayor is the one who gives Void Hunter titles out, so maybe it's a PR thing since all the original ones don't seem to be around
>>501768452>4 of the 6 people on my friends list uses the Lucy background
>>501768452based
>>501762975I use it too
zzz is the first gacha i've stuck with that has powercreep (genshin doesn't have much and the others gachas like alchemy stars or reverse1999 i didn't stick with)do i just have to live with the constant anguish to know that my characters are doomed to be useless in 6 to 12 months and that i need to calculate each of my rolls to be as optimized as possible as an f2p player
>>501767557Only 1 hag in this image, methinks.Actually I can't get a read on Jane, do you think she's in her early 30s or something else?
>>501768603her gameher general
I finally got Yanagi but she drained me so I can't afford getting her w-engineIs Grace's w-engine the best cope?
>>501768689>do i just have to live with the constant anguish to know that my characters are doomed to be useless in 6 to 12 months and that i need to calculate each of my rolls to be as optimized as possible as an f2p playerPretty much, sadly
>>501768603Because she's sex, for (You), and pretty much everyone has her maxed out.
>>501768757Yes, even better if you got Rina
>>501768689Idk I'm still clearing everything with shark & wolf just fine.
>>501768603Her background is simply the cutest, only Nicole and Corin are comparableI kneel to those 3 people in total who may have M6 s-ranks as their backgrounds
>>501768707doesn't Jane have a masters in criminal psychology or something like that? and she doesn't seem to be new at her job, so she's probably late 20s/early 30s at least
I am so fucking SHIT at this game. Goddammit.
>>501768757Gemini is enough, Fusion Compiler is very good with Rina and in some cases even better than her sig
jstern25 said that ZZZ is better than Genshin
>>501768707meant for>>501768452
>>501768689>my characters are doomed to be uselessin what sense. this game doesn't have any meaningfully difficult content and isn't ramping up quickly either. yes in 6 months your clear times will look bad if you don't pull, but if you're F2P why are you comparing your clear times to begin with? you already lost. decide if you want to spend and care about speedrunning or just keep playing your easy baby F2P game and stop bitching
>>501768493she is described as young and very talented but hasn't been seen doing much so maybe it is a PR move by the mayor as >>501768579 said os an attempt to maintain the ties with the hoshimi family>>501768543sunbringer is most likely a woman and is inspired by the appearence of honkai impact's protagonist
>>501768689I'm just preparing to lose out on a few polychromes and potentially dropping the game if it gets worse
>>501769050
>>501768603
>>501769050anyone with more than 2 brain cells has this opinion
>>501769050Well if assblaster69 said it on the internet it must be true
>>501768810and now i regret so much how i played early, from 1.0 to until very late 1.2 i never did shiyu defense or hollow zero, and i took a 3 week break because of irl stuffso even though i'm technically a day one player my account looks more like that of someone who started in 1.2
can some of you guys add me? i dont have any friends who play this and my friends list is so empty :(
>>501768689I will be here to remind you there is no point in worrying next Shiyu.
>>501769245if you are on Eu i will add you tomorrow
>>501768689If i can still clear in 1m20 off element with Corin, i'm sure it will be fine.
>>501768689ZZZ has zero powercreep, I'm still clearing every Shiyu with Soukaku DPS, Anby, Nicole etc.
>>501769245>seth wpare you looking for erp?
>>501769119Miyastern25
>>501769420im on NA>>501769443no!
>>501769467yeah i think im gonna pull for him
>>501769173Who cares what patch it looks like your account started in? As long as you keep clearing events and most of shiyu you'll be able to collect and save rolls for future characters you think are fun
>>501769065you are right i just hope the difficulty doesn't ramp up too fast, i don't speedrun i just want to be able to clear the main content for rewards, i'm not trying to got to floor 200 on the tower mode or anything
>>501769050is this zajef but zzz
>>501769467
I have 30k chrome and 40 master tapes, will this be enough to get Jane's m2 when she comes back?
>>501769245>s*thkill yourself faggot
How many rolls can I save up from now until the Miyabi banner in 5 weeks? I guess plus 6 weeks assuming the Miyabi banner really is extended. I have 140 rolls saved and want Miyabi M2.
>>501769787idk, it's technically possible to get it with 2 master tapes
>>501769516>im on NANyooooo
ONE DAY AND ANOTHA DAY
How do we feel after our first limited support (for anomalies)?
>>501769821That floor would be SOAKED.
>>501769813wtf is your problem >>501769861sorry :(
O-Oh joy...
>>501769837I suppose you're right. I could get it in two tries or get 7 copies of Nekomata.
>>501769601the S-rank agents are way too fucking overtuned, to make Shuyu actually difficult while they keep climbing in strength would mean skyrocketing the difficulty with no ramp. its not happening, shit with no rewards like the tower might keep getting added though because presently there is no reason to pull mindscapes in this game besides having severe brain damage
>>501769932Who this
I am literally crying and pissing right now, what do you mean Miss Yanagi is a dirty p*rate? If even our most beloved guardians can't be bothered to respect the law, can we trust in our government at all?
>>501769932Not included in the screenshot: The Dullahan in phase 2 with 13 million HP. The last Shiyu 7 one had 6.5 million.
A bit late to the party but damn is Yanagi fun to play
>>501769932>>501770190Lol fuck
>>501769919who is this?
>>501769932anomaly shilling shall continue until morale improvesremember that it's more cost-efficient to get m0w0 yanagi who'll be your electric anomaly carry through the entire rotation than m2w1 miyabi + her best support who just so happens to be yanagi
>>501769919might roll for jane but not sure since i currently play jane seth and grace and who would i bench
>>501769919kinda impressed they made someone even more boring than section 6
>>501770151Harumasa taught Soukaku and then she in turn taught Yanagi about it
dude just imagine the types of bang boo we'll have 1-3 years down the lineno doubt, either order or idols will have a bangboo that heals only twice as much as avacado boo and it'll be the game changer
>>501765637>>501762471She BROKE me
i feel like im gonna end up moving all my ellen discs over to mibibi...
>Yanagi canonically has neck and back strain problems...you know what, that tracks.
thirens are fucking subhumans retards and should be exterminated from the world
>>501770321Shut up shill, you can't trick me into getting Yawnagi
>>501770305I'm pretty sure they're just Shiyu defense buffs
>>501769932>more anomaly shillingFeels good being a Grace + Rina + Jane + Burnice chad
>>501770365Seth, he already kind of sucks in Disorder teams compared to other supports, let alone that increases the entire team's Attack, Anomaly prof and buildup rate. Who knows what else they'll bring
>only have 55 rollsim not getting miyabi and her sig am I
I regret rolling for m1 Zhu Yuan Lawrence.
>>501770379you niggas kept saying that about section 6 but they became my favortie faction after doing their new quest
so wait am I reading this right? miyabi is forced to play disorder otherwise she's STILL a clunkfest to build up arcane blade except she's now forced to have m2 to play like in beta? what the actual fuck were they thinking?
>>501768689I'm f2p and have no idea how any characters kit works besides the most basic stuff that is explained in tutorial and I still manage to clear shiyu there are plenty of room for improvement in my case not only with discs but also with rotation and team building I'm sure if you really want to clear shiyu with your old units, you can, but you need to gitgud
>>501769919>>501769932So is this basically guaranteeing that Harumasa is free? Since he's an attack agent yet they're still shilling for anomaly agents
>>501770507If you're not getting 3 (THREE) Miyabis and her sig you're bricked
>>501760583>one of the most single important aspects in advancing in this universeIf you want to advance to an early grave, sure"Yeah I'm really resistant to ambient space cancer, now I can stay in the space cancer zone full of dangerous monsters for longer!"
>>501770430Even Ellen....?
>>501770543I actually feel bad for people who are fans of attacker comps. Anomaly is still being shilled for months to come and by the time Attacker shilling starts we'll have a whole new wave of characters that will most likely be better than current existing ones
Janebros I don't feel so good...
>>501770589he deals bonus damage against enemies with anomaly on them so it's still a buff for him
good evening citizen
>>501769245sorry bro I only add EUgods
>>501770589For all we know Harumasa ends up being an attack agent in name only, like how Miyabi is anomaly in name only. Remember 1.4 will have a free event engine for attackers that gives a buff when the target has an anomaly.
>>501770405
>>501769245added based Seth enjoyer
Now that the dust has settled and Prydwen has spoken, who is better?
>>501770761Miyabi on the leftYanagi on the right
Give it to me straight. Is Zhu getting powercrept? I was planning on getting her mindscapes when she came back around but at this point idk. I don't want to just use Jane forever but damn it just feels like Mihoyo wants this to be Anomaly Zone Zero
>>501761098based...>>501761162I don't, I wouldn't get anything done in life
>>501770724Surely Qingyi will still be the premium stunner by then, right?
>>501770626Especially Ellen, that lazy bitch.
I still prefer Stunner+Attacker gameplay, Disorder slop is the worst, I will NOT switch characters and will keep my stunner on-field until the enemy is stunned, then buff with a support and then burst with an Attacker. And I will be happy.
>>501770854thank you fren. i actually ended up getting like 10 copies of him recently, and his weapon r5, it feels like he really likes me (??)
>>501768689Generally in gacha power creep happens after 1 year at least. That's when they start doing reruns and actually demand you having dupes for new content.
>>501768689>genshin doesn't have muchabsolutely fucking baffling statement
Does Billy want Saarlight Engine or SE Replica?
>>501770975based NPCbro
>>501768132She's a Police Officer, mate. She's got a day job that she's out doing. I'm sure that PubSec will come back into the picture when the plot moves back to dealing with The Sacrifice; along with the Belobog crew
>>501770959
>>501770910As long as the ult changes don't fuck her, pulling mindscapes is the best way to future proof your favorite character. m6 damage dealers can clear Shiyu in <20s currently, the only way they'll stop you from S ranking with that power level is if they make something hyper specific to fuck you over.
women?
>>501770910>Anomaly ZeroReddit cope, Zhu and Ellen are 1.0 attackers, 1.0 attackers ALWAYS get powercrept to hell and back. In fact when you roll/build attackers you have to come to terms with the fact that they are the class that will most likely get powercrept.
>>501766569Same bro. Kinda wish my luck here would carry over to some of the other gachas I play because I've NEVER been this lucky in any gacha before.
>>501771104Not using sig is soulless.
still not rolling Y*n*gi
>>501770773Core Passive: DawnWhen Harumasa activates and releases [Dash Attack: Instant Slash], the critical hit rate is increased by 24%, if this slash causes a critical hit, 1 layer of Frontal Aura is gained, stacking up to a maximum of 2 layers, each layer of Frontal Aura increases the damage caused by a critical hit by 35%, the effect of Frontal Aura ends when [Dash Attack: Instant Slash] fails to cause a critical hit or when it exits the Enhanced state.Bonus Ability:Triggers when a [Stun] character or [Anomaly] character is present in the party:Harumasa's attack causes the Electric Attribute Abnormal buildup to be reduced by 50%, and the damage is increased by 35% when the attack hits a stunned or Attribute Anomaly-ridden enemy.He's versatile. Anby + Harumasa will be F2Pcore.
>>501770941Probably within her niche but I doubt Ellen and Zhu will hold up when compared to whoever the hell will be out by then
>>501771085genshin is only just starting to get obviously stronger characters after 4+ yearszzz is not even 6 months old
SAD NEWS: Harumasa is an A rank bangboo now.
>>501770769Good evening.
My hands are fucking DIAMOND. I am HODLIGN. I WILL have Jane M6
I DEMAND that Mihoyo release Bangboo Soukaku and Bangboo Miyabi plushies as official merch
>>501770910S6 powecreeps day 1 S ranks: Grace, Ellen, Koleda and Knot.Idols will powercreep cops.
Idols?
1.5 characters: First half is anomaly support, second half is ether anomaly. I've seen it in a dream.
>>501771594Jane can't be crept.
>>501768689What are you talking about? The only "powercreep" I've suffered is the fact that I put all my eggs in one basket with the 1.0 meta ice team and now when I fight an ice resistant enemy I get shafted, but everything else is okay.
>>501769065they literally doubled shiyu hp in 3 months
>>501770773>attackers that gives a buff when the target has an anomaly.I know it's not the same but the idea existed from day 1, Anton is shit but he's also made to work with Shock comps
>>501768689Miyabi is blatant powercreep, but she's whalebait.You need yanagi AND her signature for Miyabi not to be a brick.Miyabi want crit and no Anomaly weapon provides crit, she doesn't care for anomaly proficiency and every Anomaly weapon provides Anomaly proficiency.For the vast majority of people out there who are F2P Miyabi will be EXTREMELY lackluster.Miyabi is also a burst DPS, which means no one will see her for more than 5 sec on the field.
Damn, it almost feels a bit too easy with Seezar instead of Nico. I feel dirty.
>>501771604>StarStarlightS-rank Billy alt soon
>>501768689>genshin doesn't have muchwhat about blue man of hold down left click?
>>501769435Are you doing this without an electric? Chinky trivializes hans clear times right now.
How do I break myself from only playing Jane? I assumed Ellen was just slow and clunky due to the commitment required to get her 3rd hit off in her basic attack combo but even Yanagi feels awkward to play. Jane has ruined the game for me.
>>501771085it doesn't1.0 4-stars are still mainstays
>>501770769Fuck the police
>>501771085Genshin has some but people assume Neuv is th benchmark for new characters when he's a massive outlier.Regardless, old characters constantly get support in Genshin, both via 4*s and 5*s. Not to mention you can still clear abyss with only 4*s and pure shitpost teams. It is nowhere near as bad as almost any other gacha.
>>501771604apparently mistranslation but i'm not chinese so not sure
Zhuzhu my beloved
>>501770884f2p+ bwos... how do we keep up...
>>501771604Are you retarded? 1.4 is the section 6 patch bro.
should I drop a tenner on Yanagi's weapon banner
>>501771085A lot of early game characters are still very good, Zhongli, Bennett, Xiangling and Kazuha went for like 4 years without a replacementAnd a lot of the outright powercreep isn't too egregious, like Chiori isn't super broken compared to Albedo.There are standouts like Neuvilette but generally Genshin's powercreep, while it exists, is pretty light.
>>501771604>Chapter 5 is a skip AND I have more time to save for ObolPLEASE
>>501771712>Character with 20% higher modifiers than Zhu Yuan needs another character and wengine to be goodabsolutely retarded take
>>501770884>site itself tells you to never use that section to compare between characters as its inaccurate
Give me your Meebs webm/gifs, now!
>>501772318
>>501772017I would do fucking anything to smell her ass hole for just a few seconds
>>501772393me at 3am
>>501770884even ignoring memewyn yanagi is clearly better but she's also less self-sufficent: she's considerably worse without burnice (or persumably mibibi)
>>501759558Seeing the current state of /hsrg/ makes me wonder how badly higgers will invade and shit up this place once the expies release
>>501771624Ether stunner will revive Zhu
Man... I hate not knowing the upcoming characters. Do we have any idea about 1.5 yet?
>>501771356To be fair Hu Tao took a massive dump on every character in the game before her, as far as DPS goes, and lasted up until like 4.5 as one of the best DPS in the game, staying relevant way longer than the other mainstay 2.x DPS (Raiden and Ayaka).Ganyu + Venti was also much stronger than basically anything else until Ganyu got replaced by Ayaka (sound familiar?). I think people just forget that Genshin's had some massive spikes because the power level of most characters from 1.6-3.0 was relatively stable outside of the supports, and Ayaka.And even 3.0 only had one standout DPS (Al Haitham), basically everyone else was about what you expected.
>>501770884what's the blue / red mean?
Good thing Jane isn't here to hear this
>>501772526Honkai Impact 3 is super chill, and the expies are from there, not HSR.Also the only reason /hsrg/ is giga cancer is because of the upcoming Sunday banner.
>>501772616>80% dmg vs Daze isn't enough
>>501772621this girl>>501770379
>>501772182Zhu has many self buffs and support buffs, Mibibi barely has anything and has to use anomaly for buffs instead of supports.
>>501772737Now image 80% more daze multiplier AND a 20% Ether resistance shred!
WHAT THE FUCK IS AN EXPY
>>501772526>how badly higgers will invade and shit up this place once the expies releaseits already happened, look at the retarded anti 1.4 ult change posters, straight from the deepest shitposter hell
>>501772748Oh that's an easy skipBased. Thanks bwo.
So what's the plan idol/obol wanters and savers? Did the new mibibi changed your mind after seeing her 1.4 beta animations vs her cbt one? Are you pulling for her? I'm personally going to wait for 1.5 beta before deciding
>>501772645hu tao was the first real dps character genshin got, and she remained relevant up until very recently. the same is not happening for ellen or zhu in 4 years
>>501772783Miyabi has 60% bonus damage at 100% CR (30% at 50% CR, trivial to hit), 25% ice shred and increased ice build up (which is used for one of her 3 nukes).Zhu has 80% bonus damage 30% CR. That's it.I guarantee you she is the best DPS at M0W0 whether or not you have a single another S-rank,Meanwhile Zhu is garbage in currnet meta without Chinky.
>>501763168>>501763515>>501763178>zzz keks unironically think their shitty game is goodholy delusion
>>501772970Did you jerk off with boothill and robin?
>>501772182Are you retarded?>MUH MODIFIERSYeah, ignore every other aspect, like how Zhu has a bunch of good Wengines to pick from while Miyabi has fucking NONE outside of signature.
Don't fall for the /hrtg/ bait bwos
>>501770046Shiyu Bonuses
501772970what do you gain from coming to the general of a game and posting something like this? pathetic
>>501772960I agree, but with your logic then Ellen and Zhu aren't "real DPS" either. Because Xiao, Ganyu and Klee came out before Hu Tao.It could very well be that the first "real DPS" is Jane, since the power level seems to be stabilizing around her (we will see how Mibibi is on release). They even nerfed Yanagi twice and she is more or less on par with Jane now because of it.
>>501773101so just roll her sig?lmfao are you retarded or smth
>>501773157sorry I'm new haha, meant for >>501773101
>>501772954the plan is simple: roll mibibi save for obol
>dps types in star railhipercarrydual carryST specialistAoE specialistdotfuadebuff dpshp consumesuperbreaksummon (NEXT!)>dps types in zzzattackeranomalymore anomalyanomaly with dot (NEW!)
>>501772954miyabi looks cool, i have 240rolls i think right now, might roll her and save for oboli think it's smart to roll void hunters since they are zzz's archons, won't happen often
>>501773112Also, ignore the anime nigger
>>501772954I started this game with the plan of saving for idols, but they've made too many likeable characters and I bought out all the top up bonuses so far. I have enough to m2w1 Miyabi as long as I don't get unlucky, which I'll probably go for since I love Vergil ripoffs. But I hope idols end up not coming until after top ups reset otherwise I'm in trouble.
>>501769245thank you my friends list isnt empty now!billyGOD so cool..
>>501759813CorinPussy
>>501773182>more or less on par with Jane now because of itmaybe solo, she mogs jane in disorderthey seem content to push the dps ceiling 20% every patch
>>501772412She seems like a highly clean and well groomed person so her ass probably just smells of soap
why has nobody posted videos of the new ultimate system yet??
>>501773320sniff AND lick
>>501773323kill youself tranny faggot
>>501772967>Miyabi has 60% bonus damage at 100% CR (30% at 50% CR, trivial to hit)That's not damage bonus, that's 60% anomaly build up rate.>25% ice shredWhich you need to trigger disorder to activate and who shits disorders? Better roll gweilo.>Zhu has 80% bonus damage 30% CR. That's it.And also def shred from Nicole. And also damage bonus from Nicole. And also stun damage from Chinky. And also one of the best f2p engines which is barely below her sig depending on playstyle. Meanwhile there's 0 (zero) engines that work properly for Mibibi except her sig.
>>501773112Guaranteed it's a WuWajeet false flagging as a /hsrg/ poster.
>>501773264Zzz is creatively bankrupt and filled with powercreep, SAD!
>>501772954I'm really tempted to roll for yanagi/mibibi, seems like a fun team to play. I'll hold my chromosomes until last day of yanagi's banner and wait for more info on idol's patch
>>501773101zhu's cope engnies all give attack, unless you're going to tell me you use neko's ball on her just for the critmiyabi can use gemini or fusion compiler, this "she has no cope engines" thing has never made any senseIt is not like acheron, whose cope options are all dot or EHR-based. There are already generalist anomaly engines in the game miyabi can use
>>501759813EllenTummy
>>501772673Jane is too busy skittering around in the sewers to care
I regret rolling for Jane "anomaly hypercarry" Lawrence
>>501759813>Lucy>breasts
>>501773182ganyu was only a "dps" because the character power was very weak (diluc and klee)
>>501773619She has no cope options because she does NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANOMALY PROFICIENCY.
>>501772954>yanagi tempted, but probably skip>lighter skip>haru skip >miyabi MAYBE >if 1.5 is the actor chick skip I already have ellen and her engine, so i don't really need another ice character, but miyabi looks cool. Hopefully we know more about idols or obol by the time miyabi rolls around.
>>501773701reminder this was the only place in the internet that told you to skip jane
>>501773276I heard archons/whatever important character on hsr was only once a year release. Is this true? Then I might I have to gamble 50/50 for our foxgirl>>501773320Same bwo but idols are taking way too long. Then there's the supposedly leaked astra yao or whatever that bitch name was for 1.5
>>501771751continuing to push after 25 would be easy with this team if I could be bothered to reset on mistakes but I cba
Assuming you A-Rank every Shiyu Critical Node, you will lose out on 240 Polychromes (1.5 rolls). Since it resets biweekly, you're losing a total of 480 Polychromes (3 rolls) a month.This means that if we take the absolute average to roll both an agent and its W-Engine (153 rolls, 50% chance), it would take you 51 months, or 4 YEARS, to make back your meta "investment" on Shiyu alone. The reason it feels like you're making your rolls back is because they naturally give out Polychrome through new content they implement, freebies, and the membership most of you buy.Remember, ROLL FOR LOVE, NOT FOR META.
>>501773378>maybe solo, she mogs jane in disorderPeople keep saying this but where is the proof. Jane and Yanagi have almost the exact same clear speeds at the same investment for Shiyu right now, they don't even work on each other's sdes so you can't do a 1:1 comparison. And the Shiyu buffs are heavily in Yanagi's favor if you're comparing hyper Jane vs Disorder, since Jane hyper can't burn or shock Razor.
Should I roll on Ellen when she comes back or is she crept?
>>501773619>It is not like acheron, whose cope options are all dot or EHR-basedIt's in fact exactly like Acheron and cope options are AP based.
Who's the Neuvillette of ZZZ?
Did they change something for the camera and controls for this new update? Everything feels super off in combat.
Yanagi felt kind of awkward to play in the story mode. Doing her stance change special often did not come out when it should and felt really inconsistent/clunky
So what combo am I supposed to do with Yanagi exactly, help me out
>>501773342I always think its a huge dildo from the preview
>>501773980She's dead in the water, totally powercrepted
>>501774119Call yourself a stupid bitch.
But I want to SAVE wtf
>>501773980I'd probably skip. She's cute, but her kit isn't really good with how the game is now. Her animations are long, which means you either need to stun window with her or a shielder constantly. And even then Caesars shield pops pretty quickly against end game stuff if you can't dodge, and ellen doesn't like dodging.
Thoughts?
>>501773957>where is the proofchink videos on weeklys or towerSD isn't a great comparison because not only do blessings distort things the HP is currently too low to get a solid comparison, things die within a single rotation
>>501772954Lost my polys to Yanagi's massive melons, and Miyabi's animations don't satisfy my sword autism enough for me to roll, so ill be suspending my rolls for her, im skipping everyone from now on until OBOL
>>501773842>>501774005You guys are idiots.Weeping Gemini: Attac % mainstat (useless passive)Fusion Compiler: Pen % Mainstat, Attack % passive, extra AP on passive as wellMagnetic Storm: Attack % manistat, AM passiveRoaring Ride: Attack % mainstat, Attack % and AM passivesIt is nowhere near like Acheron who literally had GNSW to use. Not to mention the real reason Acheron's cone is busted is because of the extra stack it gives her, not the crit. The crit copecone they released for her isn't even better than GNSW.
Did you beat tower 30 yet?
>>501774119https://imgur.com/a/WylaHJmJust parry bro
https://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/Hoshimi_Miyabi?oldid=38733https://zzz.hakush.in/character/1091How do they compare?
all this time I was missing these free polys for 15 sec tutorials each
>>501774251BURNICE FUCKING FLOPPED
>>501774340Is there a reason to do it outside of the profile picture
>>501774251>everyone pretending Jane Zhu and Ellen are completely dead>meanwhile
>>501771085Genshin is an absolutely stellar example of anti-powercreep, and I say that as someone who plays all Hoyoslop indiscriminately. To this day, units like Bennett, Xiangling and Xingqiu, free 4*s everyone had since 1.0, are still considered top tier units capable of clearing all in-game content. And even 5*s rarely act as straight improvements - for example, while Arlecchino is great, her gameplay style is fairly different from Hu Tao, so there's no feeling of Hu Tao getting left behind. And then there's fucking Zhongli, a dude so powerful that he's still the absolute top of the class, despite being released in 1.1. This is like if Caesar remained a top tier shielding unit 4 years from now. It's honestly amazing, and neither HSR nor ZZZ compare.
>>501774267Weeklies and tower are also irrelevant, because they are based on weakness. Which boss is weak to both electric and phys so you can do a 1:1 test against?Because you lose 20% damage if they're not weak to the element and 40% if they resist it. There is no way to do a fair comparison, there are no enemies with the same weakness to fire, phys and electric. And Shiyu is also the only content where clear speed "matters" because it gives rewards, clearing a weekly faster is totally irrelevant.Jane is outright better for Tower just because of her dodge, so I don't know why you brought that up.
>>501774454they added it in 1.3
>>501774340I got to 32 and reset my run, gonna wait for Miyabi to try to push higher.
>>501771085there's no powercreep just overall power level slowly raises except for some unlucky characterszzz characters are literally faction locked characters like jane and miyabi have no future because of how horrendous their additional ability reqs are
>>501774340haven't even beat 15
>>501774338>It is nowhere nearAnd GNSW gives 72% damage bonus, it's awesome right?
>>501774516They didn't update it for the new Shiyu yet, Ellen's usage rate is probably gonna be < 30%.I doubt Zhu's will go down much.
>>501773957>they don't even work on each other's sdes so you can't do a 1:1 comparisonMy Yanagi team clears side 1 faster than my usual Jane team, but it's not because of Yanagi it's because I have Burnice in that teamWhichever team I put Burnice in clears fasterOn both sidesHave we considered that Burnice is fucking carrying and Yanangi mostly looks good because she has the best Burnice synergy?
What the heck am I looking at?
>>501774673>this same thing has been said for the last 2 patches
how often does shiyu defense usually change?
>>501774338EVERYTHING is shit, she fucking needs CRIT.Her entire fucking kit revolves around her needing CRIT.Nothing in her fucking kit gives a fuck about anomaly proficiency.You're fucking stupid, Miyabi is an IMMENSE brick and not worth rolling without her Signature and without Yanagi.And even with all of that Miyabi is a burst dps, she will be like Zhu where you barely see her.Its shit.
>>501772954Lucked out on Burnice and Yanagi and still have 10k polyNow I'll save for hopefully getting all of Obol squad
>>501774517>old units can still be used>that means power creep doesn't exist!!I swear Genshitters are the most retarded hoyo game player. Billyfag is still soloing everything, HSR still has a ton of 1.x and free units in the meta. Meanwhile Genshin has blue fidget spinner man soloing literally everything but apparently that isn't power creep lmao
>>501774526its really easy to test againt neutral given how many bosses are ice/ether weakand we already know about the incoming SD hp bloat
>>501774340Yes, saving the climb for when Meebs comes out since I want to see how far I can solo it with her at M6.
>>501771865>>501774517The fact that mihoyo released some incredibly busted 4* characters by mistake in 1.0 doesn't mean there's no powercreep or endgame hp bloat that makes weaker characters rougher to use. Also, the release of dendro has made it so that cryo has been in the cuckshed for years at this point.
>>501774734You need to collect some of the chests so the remaining ones spell out "CHESSBOARD".
>>501774705What do you feed your Piper?
>>501774734THE GAME
>>501774251>Lucy and Piper upMah girls.
>>501774832>moving the goalpostsget yo dick split
>create the problem aka you cant heal in tower>Sell the solution aka first limited healerBravo.
>>501772954I was going to pull Lighter for Soldier, but I think I'm going to skip him because the way the powercreep is going I don't think there's any point in trying to keep her competitive anymore.I was always planning on getting Miyabi, so I will pull her then save for Obol. If the singer bitch is real and a support for Soldier I might get her.Skipping idols as well.
>>501774251Billybros dot dot dot
I need Pulchra milky tits.
>>501774901my Piper is underwhelming, M5W1 Roaring because I've only had 1 Roaring drop so far
>>501771712Why the fuck would Miyabi not want any Anomaly Proficiency? Is there info somewhere that Freeze Shatter and Disorder does not benfit from AP?
AM or ATK for Yanagi slot 6
>>501774539Oh thank god...
>>501773467how are you this butthurt over me just being amicable? you have problems
>>501774798>Billyfag is still soloing everythingHe hasn't been able to clear in < 2:30 for the past 2-3 Shiyus so Billy "solo" clears are already dead. If you need a meta team to carry the other side there's no value in a solo clear.>HSR still has a ton of 1.x and free units in the metaNot really, no. At least as far as 1.x units go, it's only Banjo, Topaz and Huohuo (less than 1/2 of all the 5*s, hardly "a ton") that are still meta. You are correct about the free characters though as there's HTB, March and Gallagher was given out in several events, even if we ignore Ratio was meta until he got replaced by Feixiao.Genshintards are dumb but you are acting like HSR is clearable with a full 1.x roster when it absolutely is not for most players.
>>501775090jstern25 said AM
>>501774251The state of supports in ZZZ is very strange.
>>501771085>fags saying there's no powercreep just because 3 release characters are overtuned as hell>even though every other character from 1.x aside from Zhongli got hard powercrept>even though a lot of characters from 2.x got powercrept>even though a lot of characters from 3.x got powercrept>even though a bunch of artifact sets and weapons got powercrept>even though entire elements and archetypes got powercreptso in your minds, some things reimaining viable = no powercreep?then I guess ZZZ will ever have powercreep either, Lucy and Nicole are gonna be good until EOS.
>>501775076Her damage doesn't come from Anomaly dummy, her damage comes from a massive Acheron nuke on her charged attack which deals direct damage and can crit. Triggering Anomaly is just the pre-condition to be able to do the charged attack nuke
>>501775227The first limited support will have to be insane to powercreep even Nicole. She's so good people use her outside of Zhu teams just for the grouping and defense shred.
>>501775090Given that Yanagi has Polarity Disorder there's no downside to going AM. Your attack substats would have to be real bad to make attack preferable and in that case you should honestly just be improving your substats.
>>501775076She wants AM, attack and crit.All of her damage scales with attack, not AP, even her special anomaly nuke (2000% attack modifier).
>>501774798>muh NeuvReleasing busted males is normal for all Hoyo games because that's the only way to make their largely male playerbase roll for them. That's why Aventurine is the most fucking ubiquitous unit in HSR teamcomps, and you fucking bet Sunday will be the same. I wouldn't even call it powercreep, because the intention is not to make old units obsolete, it's just that no one other than megafags would ever roll males.Meanwhile, Billy can barely scrape by in high level ZZZ content, and he sat at the absolute bottom of all tierlists since launch. This doesn't compare to pic related.
>>501774942which goalposts were moved, all I wrote has to do with powercreep in the sense of older units aging poorly
>>501775303>I guess ZZZ will ever have powercreep either, Lucy and Nicole are gonna be good until EOS.Retard, anything could happen. For all we know there's an umbrella looking ethereal that blocks attacks coming from the sky to completely make Lucy useless. Or an enemy that deflects all projectiles so Nicole would be useless.
>Nicole lowers enemy defense>Rina lets you pierce enemy defense>the numbers on Nicole's skill are seemingly higher>Nicole has a generally better element>Nicole has better damage>Nicole has better buildup>Nicole can parryOk there has to be something about how Pen Ratio works that I'm not getting
>>501774890I did, nothing happened first thing I tried. >>501774912I just lost
Mibibi is yuricoded.
>>501775697You missed 1 for "R".
>>501775735Proof that isn't fanart?
>>501775639pen is only good if you build it on other characters as well and is subject to target's actual defense
>>501775697Did you clear all the chests at the top and bottom?
>1.4 will introduce a resonium set dedicated to decibelshmmm
>>501775639you can stack pen ratio much easier than you can defense spread, and the way the formula works you don't want to use both
>>501775605NTA but if old characters are still at the top (B and co) it's difficult to make a case about "powercreep." Genshin obviously has it, but it's minimal in general and you can generally clear with any character you like if you are smart enough or throw just one 5* support on them. Many characters have gotten better over the years as well, such as Noelle, Keqing and funnily enough Razor.The HP bloat also matches the general trend of every character getting stronger. I'm not trying to argue that Genshin has no powercreep, but if some schizo wants to clear abyss with Amber they can absolutely do it without needing a bunch of C2 5*s to help them.I personally can still clear Abyss in ~60-75s with Eula which I think is pretty impressive since she fell off like 2 patches after she came out. I somehow doubt Ellen will be able to do that in a year.
>>501775793shoot you're right.>>501775817I did but it seems i'll have to reclear it as I thought I messed up something else, yeah my R is screwd.Thanks very much anons I guess I'll start over.
>>501774986We've already seen how characters people consider weak still shine and nuke when properly invested. And even if you did skip Lighter, eventually they're going to add another ice or fire attacker somewhere down the line and they'll be busted as hell because they're new and shiny. Lighter will end up being their best in slot stunner and you're going to look back on your decision to skip him because his list of attackers is *currently* short with regret. Not my place to tell you who to roll but if you want a character, get them. Odds are they're fine and if they're not, they'll probably release another character that'll bump them up later. It happens every time. Anyway, have a Lucy.
>>501775639The thing you're not getting is that Nicole is a better character than Rina
>C6 R5>for a 1.x character
>>501775184>you are acting like HSR is clearable with a full 1.x roster when it absolutely is notI still use characters like Pela and Tingyun in clears, Pure Fiction can still be hard carried by Herta and HImeko easily (even optimally lmao), I've used Firefly, HMC (free), Banjo (1.x), and Gallagher (free) for every single Apocalyptic Shadow, with Yunli, March7 (free), Tingyun (1.0 4*), and Fofo (1.x) clearing basically all 3 types of content.You can clear literally everything with 1 new damage unit and old supports (Bronya, Tingyun, Pela). Also I really really love Pela.
>>501775184>He hasn't been able to clear in < 2:30 for the past 2-3 ShiyusLast Shiyu had no buffs and I got around the same clear time as this one that has a permanent 25% damage increase against easy mode Razor.We'll see what happens when HP is buffed again and I have no buffs.
>>501774762I see my Zhu all the time when she is dropping crit bombs on my enemies and deleting their heath bars in record times
>Obol Squad>2 of the 3 upcoming members are maleSkipcore faction. Why is anyone excited?
>>501776261It's three women and one robot, retard
>>501768689 Genshin benefits a lot from the Reaction system since just triggering the Reaction is like half the battle. So a lot of characters can still find a place, even if in a cope way.Hoyo has clearly learned from that and steered away from a system that rewards that kind of synergy. Same with the weapon system. A sword user in Genshin can use a dps sword or a support sword. A Harmony character in HSR dont have that kind of choice in Lightcones, they'll always be a Harmony character providing support or supplemental damage indirectly through a real dps.ZZZ has taken it to another level, encouraging elemental and faction teams. It's honestly sad to see Hoyo become more and more soulless
>>501769932Holy fucking buffs 60% crit and 60% anomaly damage imagine how fucking bricked miyabi is when they need to put these buffs to shill her
>>501776261>lanky woman>loli with woman trapped in gun>a mech dude?
>>501775550What's funny is that Aventurine isn't even a good unit. He's completely outclassed by even 4* units like Gallagher because he provides literally nothing but healing to the team. The only plausible explanation for his high usage rate is terminal wormrot in the HRT community
>>501775354She's still going to be on a disorder team and causing shatters and disorder. Even assuming you're correct, at best your argument is simply that AP is "less optimal." Not that she cannot make use of the AP at all. But we're talking about cope options anyway. >>501775467Fusion Compiler seems fine on her. Especially if the Special/EX Special requirement is less critical.
>>501775947>eulaI started struggling with her two years ago and barely touched her since, did you roll her weapon or dupes or something
>>501775303>>even though every other character from 1.x aside from Zhongli got hard powercreptGanyu, Xiao, Hu Tao. Still great for what they do. The only truly powercrept ones are Venti and Klee, and they were replaced ages ago by Kazuha and Hu Tao.>even though a lot of characters from 2.x got powercreptAyaka, Kazuha, Raiden, and Yelan are still great. Everyone else was shit on release.>even though a lot of characters from 3.x got powercreptSame as above. The characters were either always good, or always bad.>even though a bunch of artifact sets and weapons got powercreptThat's a good thing. Better artifact options benefit all characters. Unless you actively hate playing the game, I don't see how you could have a problem with it.>even though entire elements and archetypes got powercreptCryo is in the shitter right now, yes. But it'll obviously be fixed with Shezhnaya, which is not that far off.
>>501776407>What's funny is that Aventurine isn't even a good unit. aventurine is fucking busted, what universe are you from?
sasuga da
>>501776261I'm still hoping for Hoyo to eventually learn how to write cool male characters
>>5017759261.4 will also kill this game, the ultimate change will be a massive flop.
>>501776508Sounds like a you issue
1.4 will save the game, normalfags love ult looooopong
>>501776545If your sustain isn't dishing out 100k-500k every other turn like GallaGOD or LingGOD they're dead weight
>>501776261are those S11 lines about Captain Magus in the game now?I thought it was kinda weird how she talked like he was still alive, but if he's a talking gun it kinda makes sense
>>501776580did they really forget to update miyabi Hammerhead shark model for the cutscenes
>>501776584pic unrelated? cause it's not a gacha
>>501776365m0 miyabi is absolutely bricked
>>501776413>I will build AP on Zhu Yuan>She's still going to be causing Corruption>your argument is simply that AP is "less optimal." Not that she cannot make use of the AP at all
>>501776707I see someone needs a reminder of just how bad it really was back then
>>501775550>Releasing busted males is normal for all Hoyo games because that's the only way to make their largely male playerbase roll for themThe sad truth is it doesn't work that well. Neuv never did as well as characters like Yelan, Hu Tao or Ayaka. And he was shilled way more than they ever were to the point he was more important than the actual archon (in contrast, Hu Tao was announced at the last minute). I think Mihoyo is starting to figure this out. Genshin finally topped the charts by making Xilonen a female Kazuha but probably better. The one limited male so far has been moreso sold on their VA then their strength. This is why, despite what fujos say and the fact ZZZ is the third wheel, it should never try to make busted males. People will still not roll for them. Giving Asaba away for free is pretty smart desu.
>>501776545How is he busted?>he keep da team aliveYeah, so does Gallagher, while also buffing the team's break damage AND doing retarded damage himself. So does Fofo, while also buffing the team's ATK and giving a teamwide energy steroid. Aventurine doesn't even have a fucking cleanse, he's by far the worst healer in the game, but people are actual mongoloid retards that just see him high on the tier list so they roll for him. He's literally worthless.
>>501776365They knew everyone was hyped for Miyabi so they practically force you to get her at least M2 to be usable outside of shiyu defense shill periods
>>501775639Read the Defense section of the damage calc doc linked in the OP. Def shred, flat pen and pen ratio are applied at different times in the calculation and so the absolute numbers are not directly comparable between the different stats. You also have to account for things like Debuff duration and such.
>>501775550Only metaKINGS use meta males but femoids (don't spend money in gachas) love to take credit from them.
>>501776874he's pretty great in FUAbut FUA shilling is also over so everyone that got baited into his rerun will be stuck with a worthless brick in a couple of patches
>touch my tail? hmmmnyoo>touch my boobs? sure
>>501775639Pen Ratio and DEF down stack multiplicative, which makes the opportunity cost of stacking them not worth it. In Star Rail all sources of DEF reduction stack additively which makes it very easy to lower DEF to 0.
>>501774340hold my bear
>>501774216Miwanal
>they took away miyabi's jiggle physics I understand why but it doesn't I'm not upset about it....
>>501777083Just how sensitive is her tail?
>>501776874>he's bad because uh...super breakthe state of pags
>>501777176WHAT
>>501776662it absolutely is since her burst always finds a way to not crit despite 80% crit rate
>>501776707I'm pretty sure that's the updated model, you can tell by the belt buckle
>>501776861It's not even remotely comparable. Miyabi includes a large amount of extra anomaly buildup IN HER KIT and her KIT is dependent upon her causing disorders constantly. Zhu Yuan can sometimes cause a disorder, but her kit doesn't interact with corruption or disorder at all. Miyabi WILL constantly be causing disorders when played well. That is a fallacious argument.
>>501776874>Shielder unit is the worst healer in the gameGee, I wonder why...
>frost element>anomaly>builds crit like a regular attacker>no w-engine in the entire game is good on her besides her own>w-engine is also the only one that gives crit to a class that doesn't need it>whole gameplay involves gaining stacks off-field to cast judgement cut and fuck off>gimped without mindscapesNOOOOOOOOO WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?!!??!?!?
>>501777268Her titties do not bounce anymore like they did in CBT 1
>>501774340Same as >>501774829 stopped at 30 and waiting for Miyabi, only getting M2W1 though. I just her to be able to comfortably on-field solo
>Ice>Ice: collector editionDefend this.
>>501777452Never have faith in mihoyo and you'll never be disappointed
>HRT KAKA URINE squealing about how he is le meta!!!11!1!Can you guys just go back to hrtg? Why discuss here? Is the state of the her thread this bad?
You WILL roll ZZZ's Robin (Astra Yao) or your Ellen and Zhu will be dogshit forever. You rike?
LateGODsAre we skipping Miyabi for Ellen?
>>501777240Ellen's tail is 1,000% pure muscle and she often uses it as a weapon, I'm pretty sure she just doesn't wanna break anyone's ribs if she twitches wrong at a bad moment.
>>501775184>If you need a meta team to carry the other side there's no value in a solo clear.kinda felt the same so I switched to solo As a while ago. the last node ive been able to full S rank was the 5th season, so three nodes ago. health is a bit too high no matter what I do on Lucy's side
>>501777540I'm skipping until Idols.
>>501777556>
>>501777452They want another GI, but even worse.E>Q>swap>E>Q>swap>E>Q>swap.>Muh disorder!!
>still no characters with an install ultCan we get ultimates that aren't just "it's a big hit that does a lot of damage" for once?
>>501776530>Ganyu, Xiao, Hu TaoHu Tao got both direcetly and indirectly powercrept (even if she's still pretty good), and so did Xiao. Ganyu is literally worthless at her intended DPS niche and now only works as a support (for a outdated and worthless archetype)>Ayaka, Kazuha, Raiden, and YelanAyaka is trash and Raiden got powercrept, also even though they were never that good some characters like Ayato still managed to get pushed even furhter down by powercreep.Kazuha and Yelan still absolutely fuck though, that's why I said some.>Same as aboveBurgeon, Hyperbloom and Niloubloom team (and the characters who mainly work on these) have all been somewhat powercrept. Bloom-related damage doesn't really have many ways of getting higher so it's being left in the dust by the ever stronger DPSs and the growing enemy HP pool.>That's a good thing. Better artifact options benefit all characters. Because artifacts are the main thing you farm in this game, and can become obsolete on a whim...?>Cryo is in the shitter right now, yes. But it'll obviously be fixed with ShezhnayaPhysical has also been since 2.x, and even if Cryo gets miraculously fixed (instead of just getting a paritcular Cryo character who's extremely strong) that won't delete the several years of powercreep it sufferedElectro also hasn't been in the best spot for a while...
>>501777556No I'm dumping every single polychrome on Miyabi. I will be trying to get Ellen with whatever I have on her banner however.
>>501777452>no w-engine in the entire game is good on her besides her ownLiterally every S-Rank>w-engine is also the only one that gives crit to a class that doesn't need itNo one is going to get her Engine without having Miyabi first.>Off-FieldBrainlet
I think the one way to solve Miyabi's weapon problem is to give her an event 4* weapon, like they did with Silver Wolf back when she was released.
>>501777726GI is actually good though.ZZZ is button mashing.
>>501777556Please tell me why trannies like Ellen so much. Please. Every tranny seems to self insert as her. Fucking why?
If Ellen released today her M2 loop would be built in and she'd be anomaly
>>501777791there's another way:roll her sig
>>501777556I am skipping both. why? boobs not big enough. skin not showing enough.
do I really need M2 to play Meebs without Yanagi? I'm trying to stay low investment in this game, only getting the Wengine at most
>>501776710Fate is inherently gacha. It has been Nasu's plan all along
You can’t be serious dawei
>>501777791>giving a crit weapon for freenigga they want you to get her signature so you don't get a headache rolling for substatsotherwise, good luck
>>501777176Miyabi is not for coomers
>>501777556we're all pulling for harumasa
>>501777130teach me gameplay lord
>>501777847How do you know how much trannies like her? I literally have no idea what "trannies" think about anything because the amount of trannies in my daily life is 0, without even trying to avoid them. Which means you must be seeking that information out. Why?
>>501778020just roll caesar lol
>>501777892>M2 loop would be built indoubt
>>501777534All of their other characters are fun and consistenlty stronger every timeThey just for some reason decided to completely fuck over sole girl many players started playing for
>>501778013>https://poal.me/me5pbdWRONG, go back, tranny
>>501777791Miyabi is in the Acheron situationShe wants crit but is in a class that has no crit weapons besides her signature. Eventually HSR did add another Crit weapon to Nihility.........but it's still Gacha only instead of Event or Shop.>>501777847Why are you constantly around trannies?
>>501774340I'm mildly addicted to it
>>501777847You are watching ghosts because they roped five days ago after losing the war.
>>501778409>>501778409>>501778409
>GI is actually good though.>ZZZ is button mashing.
>>501777732>Ganyu is literally worthless>Ayaka is trashThey're great units, they just need a cryo buff. It's clear as day that Tsaritsa will be an extremely busted Bronyaface cryo support, because that's what all Archons are - progressively more and more busted supports for their elements.>Raiden got powercreptHow?>Burgeon, Hyperbloom and Niloubloom team (and the characters who mainly work on these) have all been somewhat powercreptThere's nothing that does more damage than hyperbloom, other than the usual pyro crit stat sticks like Arle, but then you can use Hu Tao and achieve the same results. I've been using Tao since her release, switched to Arle, and didn't feel any difference in numbers.>Physical has also been since 2.xPhysical is just inherently irrelevant in a game all about reactions. That's why Eula was the first and the last attempt at a physical character.
>>501777340>when played wellShe has just enough buildup that when fighting Ice weakness and bringing AM on 6 she can JUST manage to get the one Anomaly she needs for someone else to Disorder it and give her the CA. She also has ZERO anomaly damage steroids, and her unique Anomaly allows no additional buildup once triggered making it deliberately bad for Anomaly and disorder damage. Because she's not an anomaly damage character she's an attack character who needs anomalies to be triggered before she can attackLike playing Zhu Yuan with 4pc Chaotic Metal
>>501778450>They're great unitslmao
>>501778360what the fuck
>>501778450Bro, that's all just Tsaritsa cope... And even if that did happen it doesn't change their current state...how has Raiden NOT been powercret??? I'm honestly confused by your doubt.tf you mean, anything that's well built deals more damage than hyperbloom these days, it hasn't gotten any better or stronger since basically Nahida, whereas DPS and supports (none of which work with hyperbloom) keep getting stronger and strongerPhysical has TWO reactions, I'll have you know! It's just that hoyo hates physical so Superconduct has been worthless since before 2.x and Shatter is a weird vestigial thing that is only ever detrimental to trigger
>>501766639Jane the secret for anything past 25? Even with Caesar's shield one mistake goes through that+half your life.
>>501776508I get C6 Mika for her which helps a bit but it's mostly Furina carrying.I do have her weapon, though, got it on her first rerun. Eula was the first character I actually saved for in Genshin so I've some attachment to her.I even cleared the 5.0 Abyss with her and a 1.0-character only team to btfo a retard a few months ago.
>>501779709>>501776508Whoops, wrong image. Meant 1.x only, too.Looking at the dates this is probably 4.8 abyss as well.
>>501772879My fellow boomer. I've figured out from context what it means but the actual word is gibberish
>>501774251What am I looking at? Usage rates in high tier combat?
>>501779146in the FGC we have saying"ain't no character gonna fix your fundies bro"if you can't dodge or parry you're gonna die no matter who you're using
>>501777556I'm day 1 and I'm considering rolling for ellen mindscapes, just C1 so it's easier to maintain stacks for empowered basic attacks.
