Is it me or are the parry and dodge circle things not showing as often?

>>502107896
should be one monocle for each eye

>>502097887
On the topic of /sm2g/ chapter colors I second these two anons >>502101240 >>502104038 for the darker black/blue color scheme. It doesn't have to be "interesting" but sleek and professional, tactical if you prefer. That's exactly what we'll achieve using these two shades.

>>502107896
Is Malum Caedo stronger than Titus if he can take on one of these jokers with little effort?

>>502110225
It's hard to take Boltgun seriously because Malum's list of feats he accomplished over the course of that week or so is more impressive than half the Primarchs

>>502108290
That art is in the 10E Blood Angels supplement. It still goes hard.

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My hunt for chapter relic has concluded, and what bounty this system held, i recovered many relics of my brothers lost in crusades in the stars of ultramar, now they shall return to our reliquary, and will join this "dude wall" on my quest to find more

Angels update when tho

>>502116956
Received. You wouldn't happen to have stumbled upon my sturdy old jetpack, would you Brother?

New update and classes when ?

>>502116956
Wrong Power Fist, use base standard Ultramarines and replace the colours with Evil Suns Scarlet and Corvus Black/Abaddon Black so you can get the gold trim

Backpack should be Averland Yellow, Shield should be Caliban Green

>>502119943
feel free to grind enough games with bulwark to do it yourself

i think bulwark is kindof a chore to play
yes, its team abilities are great, and its nice to be able to directly benefit your team.
but
>pistols only(granted theyre decent ones)
>pigeon holed perks;
your team and gear perks are pretty much locked in, so you basicly have the choice of shock synergies or.....uh....reflecting blocked damage?
>underwhelming melee weapons
Power sword..is lame... power fist has more oomph and flows way better, PS asks you to stop for finishers, needs a combo or sprint for a heavy hit, and power style feels bad at handeling hordes
>you have to nanny your team
>its your fault if the team doesnt let them nanny you

>>502121196
Chainsword Bulwark is the best

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>>502107896
We're trying to come up with a /sm2g/ homebrew Chapter. NOTHING IS SET IN STONE. But as long as there is mostly positive, popular consensus about certain ideas then we can stick with them. This is mostly to help keep the thread alive, so there's no reason to rush things.

>WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR
-Alpha Legion Gene-Seed.
-Specialize in misinformation and small squad tactics.
-On the surface are extremely Loyalist and Codex Compliant. In reality, are only as Loyal as they feel like being on a daily basis and use whatever pants on head retarded tactics and formations they want.
-Fleet Based Chapter. Homeworld still exists, but has been redacted.
-Half the time are extremely competent and capable, other half of the time are making up excuses to avoid having to go to work and falsifying information to keep their reputation clean.

>WHAT WE STILL NEED
-A Chapter name: We only have one suggestion right now, the "Phantom Links"
Chapter colors: Pic related are some of the more popular SUGGESTIONS. IMPORTANTLY, one anon has suggested using only non-DLC colors so our poorfriends can still rock the colors.
-Chapter badge: Been using Storm Giants as a placeholder right now. It MUST be something in-game, obviously.
-Chapter Motto/War Cry
-Battle Barge name


>OTHER SHIT
-One anon suggested the Chapter is some sort of failed Deathwatch 2.0, hence why they just run around ignoring orders and getting into fights
-Colors used in the above schemes; Hashut Copper/Averland Sunset, Abbadon Black/Kantor Blue, Nuln Oil/Night Lords Blue/Corax White, Ushabti Bone/Nuln Oil/Macragge Blue/Averland Sunset
-Potential reason why the Homeworld was redacted
-Trying to avoid Clown Marine colors and ostentatious shit

>>502121783
i wanted to suggest a latin translation of "Don't sweat the details" but google translate is not good at latin

badge is always gonna be a sticking point since you cant make your own

as for chapter name? maybe "Phantom Threads"? i like the faux alliteration and ...implications

>>502121783
Make the homeworld Kadaku

>>502121783
No offense but they sound like too cool for school bratty cringe. Alpha Legion geneseed and being like "whatever I guess I feel loyal today" make them sound like what a teenage rebel would think is cool. Maybe switch to Raven Guard geneseed and have it implied it might actually be something else. If you want questionable loyalties maybe make them a chapter on a penitent crusade for some unspecified crime and on the verge of going renegade or something.

>>502125925
ma, theyre taking the toy battles serious again

>>502125925
I agree about alpha legion they can just infiltrate the chapter anyways

>>502121783
Homeworld should be some shitty storage world for random garbage like imperial primers, brothers have encyclopedic knowledge on the useless shit stored there. Known for antagonizing their serfs(jannys)

>>502121783
If we go brown we're imperial fist successors

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>>502121783
Here is my revised suggestion of the second color scheme from the left. I changed the helmet and the shoulder pads to White (White Scar). The rest are as you said Abbadon Black & Kantor Blue. Since the latter is a DLC color it can get be easily switched for Macragge Blue. Nuln oil is a solid alternative to Abbadon Black and synergizes with White Scar nicely. Overall it wouldn't look as dull as the initial concept.
>>502122895
The rough translation would be "Noli molesti esse cum singulis" (more like "don't be bothered about details") or "Singula levia sunt" ("details are not important"). My bad, my latin is a little rusty.

>>502121783
Make it unknown geneseed but heavily imply alpha legion.

>>502127683
The first image should say Kantor Blue instead of Macragge Blue, just to clear things up. Apologies for the confusion.

>>502127901
since theyre a "loyal" legion thats already the implication

>>502128981
>All that wonderful work
>Undrilled barrels
Makes me sad.

bolt carbine FUCKS now holy shit

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>>502130546
WHICH ONE

>>502130842
max ammo, tactical, pick everything that says damage.
i have not tried out the marksman variant, might fuck even harder but going melee with that is counterintuitive, and you need to go melee (10m range)

i doubt its really workable in pubs since it runs into the same ammo economy problems as any bolter on tac. you need to lay out executable enemies here and there and use them as ammo deposits in a way. not that i had trouble with ammo, i just want to stay sorta topped off if the situation escalates.

the TTK on majoris is ridiculus. you shred them with half a magazine up close, if you hit heads they die nearly instantly. it does so much fucking damage that i sometimes just offed them with a accidental headshot while they were in execute state.
bossdamage is good, zoantrophes are iffy since you need to get close, but they die really goddamn fast if you are below them. neuro is probably a nightmare. helbrute and carnifex are pure joy.

its not as retarded as GL, but that should not be the benchmark. it feels like a real weapon now, with high ups and low lows.

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>>502121783
>Alpha Legion Gene-Seed
Just make them an unknown founding. Specifying geneseed always leads to donut steal problems.
>phantom links
I like black and white with gold tertiary colors. Phantom Links would be a behind-the-scenes chapter that would eschew glory for practicality, like the Raven Guard, so they lead boisterous chapters take the credit while they focus on getting shit done. Phantom suggests white as a primary color, at least to me.

>>502131812
i like that chain-skull emblem but its compressed so badly, i hate how it just cuts off.

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>>502107896
//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////

>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System,CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES
>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE.
>All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.
>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.
>All Astartes are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.

Good day and/or evening, Brothers! It is with great pleasure that I present to you a new edition of the Dude Wall. Here is the latest information:
- There were quite a few submissions as of late; All of them are already on the image version of the Wall;
- Requested changes to Ultramarine #2/Imperial Fist #11 have been made;
- The overall resolution of the Wall (although not entirely visible in this post) has increased to accommodate and place more Dudes.

I will do my utmost to update the website version today.

Thank you for your submissions, Brothers. If you want to upload your Dude be sure to do so. All are welcome.

=IMPORTANT=
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>>502124807
Kek
>>502122895
>badge is always gonna be a sticking point since you cant make your own
Not such a big deal imo. Half the legit successors use the same badges as their parents

>>502131572
cool I'll level it up then

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>>502131812
>>502132173
Tried some color corrections. Went more earthy-bone colors with the black with Wraithbone over Ushabti Bone. Retributor Armor is the trim.

This is my interpretation of the Phantom Links. I don't know why I kept naming them as star links in the filename.

Hows the new laser

>>502134268
It's dogshit, why the Space Marines would even bother to use this piece of shit is mind boggling

>>502134268
Fun but underpowered.

Legion of the Damned cosmetic pack when?

WTF lethal is easier than I thought. Your just squishier and more ravener type enemies spawn.

>>502135303
After people cried, lethal was made ten times easier. It's basically what Ruthless was on launch.

>>502133958
i like it

>>502135303
Lethal when it was first introduced and during the first 4 days was stupidly difficult and the new mechanic was retarded

They nerfed it twice and it's now the difficult Patch 3 Ruthless difficulty now

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How is this as a warcry/Motto for the Phantom Links: For the Fallen, We Remain Unbroken!

>>502136046
>during the first 4 days was stupidly difficult and the new mechanic was retarded
It was exactly what it needed to be and all the casuals/retards got filtered too hard.

>>502135806
That's great, now we just need everyone else to give their input.

>>502136189
>Muh difficulty
Kys

>>502136863
It wasn't hard if you retards knew how to work together.

>>502136112
Sounds like two mottos they couldn't decide on so they went with both. Try something shorter like "endure for the fallen" or something.

>>502136947
Maybe they're like the Doom Eagles where they think of themselves as already dying in service of the Emperor, so something like: "The Dead are Unbreakable!"

>>502136934
If it wasn't hard already then nothing changed.

>>502136934
It was hard hence the reason why it was nerfed twice and the stupid mechanic was removed with an apology, you lost and you're the minority

I just don't get why you'd introduce such a small tether mechanic when you already know its counterintuitive with two melee classes

Termination is a shit map even in Ruthless, it's too large and not even guide sites have bothered checking where all the gene seed and armoury data locations are at. You only need to beat it once on Lethal for the shitty helmet and forget it exists.

Saber should just make Inferno variants and a Chaos version of Decapitation where you actually fight something big that is moving, Reliquary is just a trash puzzle game with long drawn out sections. Like a TS Daemon Prince that shoots lightning bolts and traitor warp sorcery.

A Tyranid Fall of Atreus map is also welcome, instead of a stupid train you're escorting a Baneblade who fucks shit up and one guy's job is to open gates that were sealed by the retreating IG and the final area is some spaceport where you actually get IG support in the end in a hold the line segment from endless hordes as the Baneblade and the remaining guard hop in with the large heavy transport.

>>502136934
It wasn't hard, it was just retarded and went against the core gameplay.

>>502127683
This one is definitely an improvement over the one posted before. There's room for move in my opinion. It could do even better with an extra color. Perhaps gold.
>>502133958
Now, this one is pretty good too (much nicer than your first version). I like how you used four color palette. It is slick and subtle enough. I'm a bit on the fence between that and >>502127683. Yours is quite inspiring but my personally I like to use primarily black/blue/gold/white. I might put something together based on both suggestions.

>>502133958
>>502131812
I actually really like the red high lights. Maybe since they're only like half-compliant, the knee markings could represent the Companies instead of the shoulders

>>502108438
Probably not targeting you

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>>502121783
>pee and poo
>rgb lighting
>rgb lighting
>slava ukrainia

>>502131572
Only the smg variant is buffed, so the marksman version is the same. Only used the smg on the sniper since the update, and honestly didnt notice the changes. I need to go up to a hive tyrant and see how then increased damage works

>>502138775
it was generally a dogshit mechanic for pubs.
my favorite nightmare that actually happened to me was
>early carnifex
>tactical, heavy and sniper kill it in a heartbeat
>my 2 teammates think "huh this mode is kinda easy" and dont wait for me while i´m in the 3min carnifex execute animation
>i see them split
>both die near instantly
>last brother standing!
>no way to recover armor at all
fucking great times, i miss it so much. so fuckn hardcore man

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>>502131812
>>502143431
>>502125925
Fuck, I just had some ideas. Tell me what you think.

So they declare themselves as Raven Guard successors. It's just sort of assumed they are, because like you said, they're the opposite of loud and in your face.

BUT, their super duper secret is that their Homeworld was infiltrated by Alpha Legionnaires. So now the Chapter is super fucking paranoid, like it's convinced half it's members are actually Alpha Legionnaires, or maybe their Gene-Seed itself is actually Alpha Legion. So they're kinda like Dark Angels, in that it's unclear if they're actually loyal or not. Half the time they're fighting the good fight, the other half of the time they're killing their own members and hunting down people they've found out are Alpha Legionnaires.

It could also tie into their name. Phantom (Because it's been suggested + they're always hunting ghosts) + Bird (Raven guard successor. Phantom Ravens. Ghost Hawks. Some shit like that.

>>502144315
pee and poo is based tho

>>502135303
>Release Lethal
>Its crazy hard but fun
>Nerf it twice
>Game is now dead
Casuals got what they wanted.

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POV you're a hellbrute but Titus was around

>>502146594
This is the truth, but they should've kept Cohesion on Lethal only. I can see how there should be a 'normal' hard difficulty, aka Ruthless. Then a ballbuster fuck you difficulty, aka Lethal.

Instead they listened to the redditors and fucked it all up (again) and now their game is dying.

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>>502146594
>it was fun making a single mistake and losing an entire down
>it was fun having to kill 40 warriors every other room
>it was fun getting constantly fucked by zoans
>it was fun having the core gameplay loop be functionally aborted with how genuinely unbalanced this game is
I don't understand why you people can't just be honest for once in your dumb nigger lives
Game is "dead" because there's no direct incentive to keep playing after you level your weps / unlock cosmetics unless you SERIOUSLY enjoy the gameplay

>>502147195
Yes, it was. Thats how difficulty works. Your tolerance for it may be different but removing all the difficulty so you can be happy doesn't make those with higher tolerances happy.

The only issue was they attached progression to difficulty. This is a terrible mistake outside of something like a title or achievement. Having a helm and unique patterns meant people with low tolerance got angry they couldn't get them. Had it released as was with no rewards everyone would have been fine.

The arguments about the gameplay change was also completely wrong. No classes suffered due to tethering, it simply meant you had to engage enemies then retreat to your team if you play something like assault. But again because people with a low tolerance ot failure felt they had to play lethal they played it, played badly unable to understand the mechanics, then complained. Adding in unique challenges that made people adapt is good game design, not bad, and the alternative is now they'll just change damage numbers and spawn rates instead which is simplistic and boring.

>>502147195
This its EIGHT fucking missions so far and the last one isn't even out yet

>>502147807
>>502147195
>You must consuuummee and grind!
Helldivers 2

>>502147195
>unless you SERIOUSLY enjoy the gameplay
It was enjoyable when every match was a very tough challenge, like you just said. Challenge is the only thing that keeps coop games alive.
It is not enjoyable when you can waltz through the hardest difficulty if you have half a brain

>>502147195
i honestly didnt have much of a problem with it with crossplay disabled

crossplay enabled lethal now is still harder than crossplay disabled prepatch lethal was then

too bad having crossplay disabled makes my game fucking freeze

>>502147762
>No classes suffered due to tethering, it simply meant you had to engage enemies then retreat

>No classes suffered, melee classes just had their force projection nerfed incredibly hard

>>502148872
It was not nerfed, it was simply a different challenge which meant running off solo was risky. Had you played lethal you would have known that melee and ranged were equally important and equally as strong at release.

>>502149184
>it wasnt nerfed, it was just nerfed
kek

>>502149232
It seems you struggle to understand concepts as much as you struggle to play SM2.

>>502149346
>it wasnt a nerf
>it just meant you were more constrained
so this is the power of contrarianism....

>>502145713
>spooky avians

>>502147195
>It was too hard!
I joined a code from the thread and we oneshotted every single mission in a single session

>>502147031
It might come back as a modifier. Im all for it in that case.

>>502147195
It really wasnt that bad if you have a team that knows what its doing. Playing several games with randos few days after lethal came out was some of the smoothest because bad players are filtered.

Lethal has many problems that are individually small but compound into a miserable experience if youre not aware of them.

1) cohesion. This mechanic is imo very fun for me because positioning is even more important now. I do think the circle is far, far too small. It should be at least 15 meters instead of a measly 10, and it should not wear out so quickly. Also, having zero armour on kill (and the armour passive regen seems to be broken too) is too punishing. It should have been that you get a smaller amount of armour back on kill instead. Honestly, if an assault or vanguars is having trouble, its either because he overextended, or his team just isnt helping him out by moving forward. Its every members job to maintain cohesion.

2)enraged. Absolutely dogshit mechanic. This alone makes me not want to play lethal on solo runs. Enemies in this game already has a feedback problem and they went ahead and give enemies near infinite poise? CSM and devourer warriors are absolutely cancer because you cannot easily stagger them once they start firing at you near pointblank. Itll be a different story if they can only melee you up close, but clearly that STILL isnt the case. Make enemies ONLY melee upclose, and my grievance will be gone.

Limited Ammo cache isnt an issue. If people still parrot this theyre probably shitters who shoot at a single gaunt with the las fusil or melta gun.

>>502149495
Im glad you were able to get your helmet anon after the nerfs. Well done to you.

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Speaking of lethal, how's the HP bloat? Are purple weapons enough or should I hold off until gold?

>>502152418
Purple won't do shit against the flurry of Extremis enemies thrown in your direction, don't be an ass towards your teammates and just go for gold and grab all the perks with your gold data surplus.

Also the other bolters suck even at gold, don't use them and stick to GL, Plasma, melee and Melta.

>>502152418
Depends on what you're playing and how good you are

>>502151938
i got it hours before the patch because i was away most of the week it was out :)

>>502152418
same as ruthless unless enraged which doesnt really factor in all that much

as long as you have relic melee and your team isnt dogshit its not a big deal, you can get away with using greens

enough volkite damage ticks on the HEAD only appears to cancel reinforcements summoning like 2 bolt pistol headshots do

>>502145713
>>502149953
Night Owls. Also a pun because gamers have insomnia.

Man the power fist is so dogshit

>>502155076
Just like on launch most tards are complaining about it because they're using the grey version.

It slightly slower popping Gaunt heads but kills Majoris way faster and has absurd range.

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>>502157979
>ANGELS OF FIRE

>>502157330
Try the block variant and get the powerwave upgrade.

>>502157979
R.I.P. Hawk Lords

>>502160117
hawk lords will be able to wear beakies with raven guard emblem you'll see more when its out

>>502160117
I meant Fire Hawks.

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Speaking of them, Hawk Lords in the DLC look like they have the wrong colors. They’re sumposed to have more of a magenta color scheme with a bright yellow trim than just complete copy of the EC color scheme.

looks like they buffed the power sword single target sprint attack, it now does a shockwave forward past the thrust?

nothing in the patch notes about this. they also tweaked a few sound mechanics including the way the music behaves. very weird

>>502159610
Does that hit a breakpoint or something?

>>502163959
Due to the higher cleave count it has a much, much bigger range than the other ones... Of course i could be totally wrong because i only discovered this when i had the astartes mod on, but im fairly certain the version i was running had no changes made to the melee weapons (because it still takes a million hits to kill majoris with the powerfist).

Another tip is you dont want to spam attacks all the time. You can do a few lights or alternate, but know that when youre holding a charge attack you can always dodge cancel it. I was using this strategy to maximise the assault dodge perks like damage on dodge and refund on dodge.

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Green armor and white helmet is such a cool looking combination, I can't believe the canon Salamanders paint scheme doesn't use it.

>>502163959
Also another thing - the variant seems to have a lower damage, but i dont really feel it. It might be that the damage between the variants is overstated. We dont have hard numbers on what any of the damage numbers mean, so take the stats with a grain of salt

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>>502159106
desu its average on its own but the ability to regular stagger majoris+ with just a sidearm is nice. it needs at least one more on the team to stack thermal buildup before it really becomes good, and then that requires basic coordination which is just too hard for most people apparently

>>502167020
So it’s only good if you can get people to use it together with you?

What's the best Warhammer 40k game?

>>502171586
The fact that it can stagger majoris already puts it in a good spot ngl.

>>502171586
in terms of utility, cohesion and overall team damage i would say this, ignoring personal damage and utility

2 volkite > normal bolt, heavy bolt, plasma
1 volkite = normal bolt (tyranids)
1 volkite > heavy bolt, normal bolt (rubrics, due to stagger utility)
heavy bolt > 1 volkite (tyranids)
plasma > 1 volkite

i would take it on all 3 classes except maybe bulwark regardless for luck of the draw because it's fun to stack them

>>502174154
Dawn of War 1 and 2 (with the expansions), Owlcat's Rouge Trader, Mechanicus, Darktide and Boltgun are the only games I really see talked about currently, but I remember people used to talk about Battlefleet Gothic. Most 40k games are either phone games that only the suits at GW seem to be interested in getting produced, actively bad "early 2000s [insert Flagship FPS game here] killers" like Fire Warrior, painfully average and thus forgettable like the first Space Marine, or slot into the "We're turning the Space Hulk board game into a video game" sphere. I think Boltgun is overhyped, and starts getting bad when you hit the second chapter

>Did my first lethal
>Had to solo a helbrute
That was spicy.

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if this is what a green bolt sniper can do i think it might actually be better than las fusil

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>>502179762
yeah this quite strong and has all that mobility over las fusil. this is the 8 damage green bolt sniper on ruthless

>>502179762
Bolt sniper is very much a single target killer now. The breakpoints seem to be consistently 2 shots for CSM. I really like doing the gunfu style gameplay where i try to quick scope even when upclose.

>>502182624
If you dont me critiquing your gameplay, the knife is more than just a parry tool. Grab the better AoE on skulkcrusher perk, and when you have enemies surround you like that you can alternate your heavies and lights to clear a horde. Parry is nice to have but the knife is more than capable than handling a group.

>>502179762
It got a buff to the headshot multiplier and shoots a little faster with the most recent patch which is why it seems so much better

>>502182902
sure but that wasnt the priority at the time. in any case i would prefer to trickle them down with parries for the armorin case someone else wants one for an execute buff/armor

sometimes i do deal with minoris with the knife like how you suggested but not all that often. the only ones i find that are a nuisance are the ranged ones, but everything else is just armor i would like to keep around in case I need armor/iframes more often than not

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Which bolter is currently the best in your opinion?

Hard mode: no GL.

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>>502132837
I'd like to update my Grey Knight #1. Really good work with the Wall man, appreciate it!

>>502183206
You can easily get armour back if you mix in gunstrikes because the knifes heavy can send enemies around you flying. Its very safe to do and it can handle horde as well as the chainsword

>>502185413
Shit, I messed up the arm colors. I also changed the helmet while I was at it. Sorry for the confusion Wall Anon. Here's the final version , at least until the December update. Please disregard my previous post.

>>502184823
the heavy bolter and bolt sniper rifle are good
those two and the stalker are the only bolt weapons that aren't bad right now

>>502185969
yes i know i do it all the time

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>>502185413
>>502185974
Forgot to post my Dude. I'm a retard. Sorry and thanks again!

>>502184823
Heavt bolter, no contest.

>>502184823
When in doubt always go for Heavy Bolter.

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>>502184823
Gonna organize it by class and have pistols as well, and assume that this is for Operations exclusively I probably have shit taste but who cares
>Auto Bolt Rifle
Dogshit across the board and has no reason to exist, I'm almost insulted that it exists
>Bolt Carbine
This gun needs to be deleted and credits/data refunded for everyone who used it, along with whoever designed it fired
>Bolt Rifle
Mildly less shit than ABR without GL, effectively broken with GL
>Heavy Bolt Rifle
Amazing at dealing with Gaunt spam if you build it right (and Tzaangors if you push it), terrible at dealing with Majoris and higher even if the entire magazine gets headshots
>Stalker Bolt Rifle
Supposed to between Bolt Rifle (minus GL) and Bolt Sniper, but really just feels like it's trades having ammo for an almost nonexistant buff to headshots
>Bolt Sniper Rifle
Would be great if it had a smidge more ammo to make up for lack of infinite pierce that Las Fusil has
>Heavy Bolter
Only weapon Heavy has that's worth using
>Instigator Carbine
Discount version of Stalker, but focusing on longer ranges doesn't work well with class. I only have it on Green so I'm not sure if it gets better
>Occulus Carbine
I'd slot it around the same area as "Better than ABR" like the Bolt Rifle without GL, but I have it on Green
>Bolt Pistol
Gold standard for being "average" weapon you can push into nearly any role
>Heavy Bolt Pistol
Not as good as Bolt Pistol for general use, but seems better for Gunstrike abuse

>>502186115
Received. Do not fret Brother and thank you for kind words.

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Brothers... I sense heresy...

damn the 11 damage purple bolt sniper incapacitates a rubric marine in 1 headshot with vantage point + camo damage buffs

>>502187485
the SMG version of carbine got buffed and now has the fastest time to kill on majoris out of all weapons, except the busted as shit GL.
instantly catapulted into favorite territory.

>>502191779
it wasn't given any more damage, it's doing the same thing as it was before

>>502192256
He's right in that it got a 50% damage buff for the first 10 meters, but I still don't see myself using it outside dicking around when I trust the other two people to do well.

>>502192256
>>502192464
first thing i did was doing lethal w bots with it. its a good weapon now

>>502192832
>>502191779
I'll take your word for it, since I prefer using HBR for whatever reason

>>502175834
So you’re basically playing Ghostbusters when it comes to it?

>>502190398
Is vantage point worth carrying over extra ammo?

>>502179762
The x2 to x2.5 headshot multiplier and 50 to 60 rounds per minute update was a good update. Giving it the right perks can also just one shot Majoris and Extremis enemies outright too.

>>502198493
10% ammo is fuck all on a sniper, it's only 2 extra rounds at best on the relic ammo sniper - if it even rounds up; otherwise it's only one extra shot lol. 20% damage from vantage point will surely net you more ammo economy even if you arent that good at taking advantage of it

benis :DDD

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>>502201949
Yes yes, you should make deep and intricate plans (thus praising Tzeentch) to use your "benis" in as many situations as possible (thus praising Slaanesh), until you are raw and damaged (thus praising Khorne), even if you or the other person has a supposed disease (thus praising Nurgle).

>>502199762
magazine and reserve ammo increases both round up. This does let you weasel out an extra bullet in some instances which is pretty impactful for some weapons.

so, volkite is on relic and imo its great on vanguard & bulwark and trash on assault. those are some limp gunstrikes.

What the fuck when did we come back

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/v/ is good but the Tactical had 200+ ping...

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I mean Sniper conked out after taking 3/4 health out of the Carnifex just before the lift, GG brother...

Have a bump, dead shit game general

>>502121783
Alpha legion are manlets they should just be unknown or a cursed founding chapter because this general and fanbase are cursed af

>>502121783
Couple of people said it, I will say it too: They should be made an Unknown Founding. Going with any gene-seed opens a bag of pointless bullshit, so let's do that.

>>502210427
>so let's do that
*let's NOT do that

>>502209546
If you don’t like it then why are you here

>>502208386
>>502208189
blood ravens don't have gold pauldron rings
they're black

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>>502212525

>>502215684
>picture for ants

>>502210427
>Going with any gene-seed opens a bag of pointless bullshit
What does this even mean. The inquisition isnt real bro

>>502217228
You're going to have people that dislike being part of a chapter

>>502217686
Yeah and you also have people who dislike being an unknown successor because "it's lazy" or "too open ended", so what.

>>502217228
>What does this even mean. The inquisition isnt real bro
Sure. Neither is the world of Warhammer 40,000, yet we are having a discussion within the boundaries of its setting.

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>>502109402
here ya go brother

>>502227297
Perfect

>>502227091
You are not smart

It is now normal for games to have bugs where you can't fire your weapon.

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Since people are praising heavy bolters: which relic one did you pick? I want to try out the extra ammo one since with the perks it gives me over 700 bullets which will last me for a while, but extra accuracy to make it a laser sounds good too. I dunno if the damage one that only gives you one more damage point is worth it unless it's some breakpoint.

>>502227091
You're a mongoloid idiot.

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"NIDDERS could be here" he thought. "I've never been in this sub sector before. There could be NIDDERS anywhere." The cool wind felt non existant against his bare ceramite breastplate. "I HATE NIDDERS" he thought. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 1: original soundtrack: track #13 - Force Commander Theme reverberated his entire apocalypse class battleship, making it pulsate even as his monthly ration of amasec circulated through his colossal genetically reinforced veins and washed away his (merited) hatred of xenos after a warp jump. "With an apocalypse class battleship, you can go anywhere you want." he said to himself, booming ear piercingly out his helmet's vox caster.

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>>502232249
>normal for games to have bugs
Yes

>>502210427
I liked the black and white designs that were further down in the thread.
>>502133958
>>502145713
Call them the phantom links or night owls or whatever. I like them being raven guard.

>>502237836
Depends on what Perks you’re running. Having all that ammo is good for clearing out trash, but I personally like stacking the headshot perks so I can get into a rhythm of marking enemies with parry, using Gun Strike to boost ranged damage, and blow their heads off within seconds, so that extra point of damage from Gathalamor Crusade Beta could actually be beneficial, same with the accuracy boost from Ophelian Liberation Beta.

(reposting this because I replied to the wrong post)
>>502121783
>Alpha Legion
They're loyal but not... I like edginess. To an extent. I'd rather have them be Raven Guard successors. or better yet skip it altogether. Give them some mysterious origin so they can be made into whatever we want. It's not like it hasn't been done already (looking at your suggestions). That's what unknown foundings are for.

I think Phantom Links or Phantom Claws are nice names.

And for the color scheme, this one looks fine >>502133958. Much better than a willy wonka marine, two default marines and a two-face marine in your pic.
Castellans of the rift emblem is quite fitting if the name was Phantom links.

>>502237836
Max out the ammo line as much as you can then pick the accuracy version

You don't need a bajillion ammo when you can't hit shit beyond 10 meters

I rather have 500 ammo and all of it hitting their targets than 700 ammo and not getting to hit shit

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>>502133958
They remind me of a not retarded looking version of the Mortifactors.

Just maxed out the Neo Volkite pistol, I'm done with this game until the new update. Damage even at Relic is still too low, 6+ firepower is too dogshit and it should be 8+.

Plasma pistol and Heavy bolt pistol are still lightyears ahead but Melta Rifle plus Neo Volkite is Vanguard BiS since even with the recent update carbines are simply terrible guns. They should get a Bolt Shotgun and a variation of a Combibolter.

>>502251534
Aren’t those the guys that abandoned the Lamenters?

>dual zoanthrope as assault
>both start spamming their abilities one after the other
>both decide to lazer at the same time
>die
epic worst enemies in the game

>>502240963
pretty sure anon was talking about the heavy bolter, not heavy bolt rifle

>>502254202
Ah. In that case, go for accuracy.

>It's not dead
>We blew it up
kek

>>502256939
Sounds like this general

>>502256939
Decimus a best

>>502240635
>>502246385
What does phantom links even mean. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the chapter based on what's been posted.
It feels like someone saw the castellan logo and then made a name purely based off of that

>>502252554
Yeah, their superstitious and thought they'd get the bad juju out on them so they placed out when they discovered the Lamenters were coming to the party.

>>502262248
>their
They're* damn that's a bad typo.

>3x volks
>melted big angry boss nid in 15 seconds
No auspec, but he was bugged and stuck behind a container unable to move so we could headshot. I feel like in a competent team its the best side arm.

>>502262937
NID BUSTERS DA NA NANA NA NA NA.

>>502237836
People tend to overlook the other two version, and i get that, but the others arent outcompeted, imo.

The ammo one is, well, ammo. Ammo always scales well because all ammo refill give you proportionally more bullets to purge with.

The damage one imo is often overlooked by people. The 10%damage increase doesnt seem like a lot, but it actually makes a significant difference to your ttk. Killing rubrics in particular is hell a lot faster compared to the other versions, and its pretty noticeable.

Accuracy allows you to have smaller bloom building and smaller maximum bloom. It might even have a smaller recoil but thats not really a problem in most usage cases. This allows for longer sustained fire and puts missing targets into more of a skill issue than a luck issue.

All in all each of the variants has its particular strength, but for ease of use the accuracy one is king. And since heavy bolters excel at killing chaffs (each shot will down a gaunt and maybe a gor iirc), it makes sense to make every shot count. Still, as long as you control your burst, the damage/ammo variant are both just as good.

>>502264576
I had not made this connection but thanks now I wont get that out of my head you little shit

Power Sword feels weird. It definitely feels like it hits very weakly, especially against Majoris.
And yet it doesn't feel particularly weak. The sheer wave clear with Power Stance is insane, and it's so fucking mobile just by spamming Lights you can dance all over the place

GUZKX

roofless leveling worthless grey projectile weapon from grey

>>502266121
+50% power rake damage perk goes a long way

>>502266476
Good intel, the power rake is definitely what seems like the heavy hitter move.

>>502266938
highest single target damage is normal stance lights mixed with power rakes for stagger adn burst

>>502264785
Ammo and damage should always take priority. Ammo for maximum damage potential, damage for lower TTK's. Aiming isn't hard, accuracy shouldn't be necessary.

>>502266323
JOIN
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Brothers do not forget to vote in the focus community forum, select the scene that you liked the most. I personally picked old friends because I am not into ultramarines.

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/votes/6-which-part-of-the-campaign-was-the-most-striking-to-you

Also like and follow the Blood Raven thread, we need to keep pestering focus so that they prioritize their dlc.

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/ideas/372-blood-ravens-20th-anniversary-cosmetics?page=1

>>502266323
>>502267774
2/3 starting get in here i dont care if ur lvl 1 with trash

>>502268039
For me, it’s the banner scene.

>>502268350
Everything about that was awesome. The dreadnought, the last stand with the banner, and Calgar. Fucking great.

>>502268176
JOIN NIGEERS

>>502268557
My favorite part about the Dreadnought is that if you idle for long enough, he’ll just start firing at the Lord of Change. One shotting a Heldrake was also pretty cool. The Last Stand of the 2nd Company was also a nice callback to the First Edition cover art.

>>502266121
The stacking damage on light attacks in my experience is faster than using power or rakes to kill medium/boss enemies. But power is still godlike vs hordes/mixed hordes and rake spam also works well. The chainsword is fine, but its basically a worse power sword. And the fist is strong but feels a bit more gimmicky to make work.

>>502269245
AT THE FINALE AND NO ONE ELSE JOINED ITS OVER

>>502266323
>>502267774
>>502268176
>>502269245
>>502271010
FAM63

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>>502271010
>>502271882
sorry bro already played a lot today

>>502267736
Well, the argument for accuracy (which is valid too) is that if you miss, neither more ammo nor damage will help. But i do agree its not that big an issue because the HB excels that can staunch a horde from medium distance due to its high penetration and stagger value, which allows for more time between bursts to allow for bloom resettling.

Another thing people tend to not talk about is how hip firing the bolter is actually a technique all heavies should learn. Being mobile is obvious, but it also allows you to continue firing without overheating (and i suspect it also resets the recoil and bloom by a bit).

>>502274417
also straight up better than light melee attacks
stomp to get the ankle biters off you, put some holes in the majoris, parry as needed

>>502271010
why did they step in shit?

>>502279861
what

>>502266323
>>502271882
ZH3GE

>>502280451
poopy brown feet

>>502281802
explain yourself

>>502281948
poopy stink scythes of emperor feets

>>502282002
shut the fuck up and join

>>502282153
I already played 8 games today including the 2 with you I'm done for now

>>502280943
CAW62

2/3

>>502285337
nevermind its fucking over

>>502107896
Wow, average actually felt like average now instead of zoanthrope and lictor spam.

holy fucking shit the occulus perk tree is so fucking BAD

>>502286963
It needs a big rework.

>>502278393
I hate this, the aquila can be a pain in the ass to paint on tacticals.

>>502293757
The trick with those dudes is to paint the torso, then glue the arms on.

>>502286963
To be honest i don't think there's any perk trees outside of like double stomp chainsword that are actually good
it's all trash or meaningless

>>502286963
Most of the weapon perk trees are either dogshit or are the "You get 5%/10% extra damage on this situation or reload 5% faster" type filler that nobody actually wants

>>502295874
occulus doesnt even get those

>>502295874
They can stack up with class passives, perks and team perks, but the increase is so incremental that its very difficult to judge whether they do anything or not. It also doesnt help that we dont have a shooting range that shows damage number and enemy HP.

But judging by the datamined stuff, doing a quick number calculation and you will be able to see that when all these numbers add up they make a big difference.

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>>502298561
I wish we had all the numbers datamined so we can make actually informed decisions. Call of Duty used to have a website with all the data, I wonder if we could get something similar up and running.

>>502107896
The bolter buff from 4.1 is still there right?
Why am I not feeling any difference? It still took 4 fucking body shot to kill a simple gaunt. It should only be one or two at max as a single bolter round is 3/10 of a hormogaunt torso ffs.

Why are they so reluctant on buffing the bolters? Even darktide have stronger bolters.

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>>502298561
My issue is that it's a lot of small number changes that only happen to be relevant BECAUSE of how many there are. I'd rather have a perk tree and weapon type tree that's more than just incremental stat increases, like how the Carbine has two radically different versions. GL Bolter is a great example, in that you could easily make it the "combi-Plasma/Melta/Volkite" weapon (provided you lower the stats of the attachments to make it somewhat balanced)
>>502307709
The Bolters are supposed to be the "Get headshots and use the fact that they pierce to nuke chaff at longer range and pepper majoris before you engage them with melee" weapon, but they suffer from being balanced around the "starter weapon that's bland and kind of bad before you pick up something else"

>>502305531
This dude's art is bad and off model to a disgusting degree. Ratlings look nothing like that.

>leveling bolt carbine
>automatic variant is fantastic
>try out the semi auto variant
>it's genuinely worse than a standard pistol

>>502310128
>carbine
>semi-auto
>also low damage
I don't get it either

They're basically armoury data fodder

I genuinely wonder if you were originally supposed to be able to carry one bolt weapon and one alternate primary in addition to the pistol. And at some point in development they changed that. Because then the relatively low ammo counts on other primaries would make so much more sense.

>>502322339
In SM1 you can only carry one primary and one secondary in multiplayer

Only Titus can carry multiple and desu the Half Life/Doom model is not for this game

In tabletop though Deathwatch can carry two primary weapons and most players do exactly that, in older editions they even carry combibolters + a primary

I just want the Shotgun form Boltgun, and the Vengeance Launcher. Is that too much to ask?

>>502326869
Apparently yes, seeing how low it too for the volkite.

>>502326869
>shotgun
vanguard
two types, one big ass close range damage and another is medium range aoe spread
>vengeance launcher
sniper
three types, frag, shock and melta ammo
>grav gun
heavy
terminus/boss deleter

>>502326869
Canonically, astartes shotgun do even less damage than bolters? Do you really want that?

>>502329726
Canonically, Bolters should be more effective than they are in the game, but the games have never really cared about canon mechanics.

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>>502326869
If they're going off Primaris only weapons that have an easily viewable tabletop analog, you've that are the retarded looking rocket launchers on Desolation Squads, the flamethrower that Infernus Squads get (this exists in the campaign already, which means it's probably the easiest for them to turn around and make into a functional weapon), the autocannon that Suppressors get, and maybe a shotgun. I'm personally hopeful for the Flamethrower because I have a softspot for Salamanders mostly because I like fire, but it's probably going to be something stupid

>>502329859
Yeah, the bolters should at least one shot hormogaunt. Yet it need 3 body shot to kill them. It doesn't make sense both lorewise and gameplay wise. Numerous enemy with small hitbox should be able to be one shotted by primary weapon.

Idk why saber seems to be allergic to making a power fantasy for space marine game. Everything need to be balanced as if the bots will be mad with getting decimated by bolter fire from 100 feet away

Exp gains are increased by 50% for three days.

>>502332379
Is this for PvE or PvP?

>>502332379
Post codes

>>502305531
On the steam forum theres a pretty good guide, but since we dont have enemy health its missing half the info

>>502308176
Yeah. Its a lot of anti information from these devs. Not a fan.

>>502333309
Both

>>502257891
I was the anon who picked the name last thread before the other lore bits were discussed but you are partially correct. I wanted to pick a name that could fit with the badges given but also a name that fits the nature of the site, every reply ever poster every thread becomes a passing soul and memory, but its in these fleeting moments that link us together. Its very surface level but still sounded nice. Overall if people want to change the name I dont really mind 1 because Castellan is a dlc chapter badge and people want to make sure poor anons can join and I just wanted to help the ball get rolling.

>>502145713
If we need to change phantom link to something I like this guys suggestion for Ghost Hawks

Games dead

new pvp maps when

>>502332379
>everything maxed out since the first month
Wow...

>>502335260
It’ll be out when it’s out

>>502335094
And we killed him

>>502335094
Who's Games? What was his endgame?

>Heavy with -20% ranged damage
>Ruthless
Holy shit

I'm going to kick this noob

>>502346170
so you want 20% ammo?

you arent planning to get incapacitated, are you?

>>502346170
you can actually make a case for that. ranged damage is huge on ruthless.
the only thing thats without alternative is bulwarks 50% CH-decay and snipers cooldownrefund. and you see a LOT of bulwarks with "20%dmgreduction against terminus enemies" because bulwark attracts retards

>double XP weekend
>still need to play Ruthless thrice to level up Artificer guns
Holy shit they need to make leveling up continuous.

>>502350053
>"20%dmgreduction against terminus enemies"
I refuse to believe anyone takes that other than console players with massive main character syndrome, and only for decapitation.

>neo-volkite pistol wasn't added to PvP
wow

>>502354081
Imagine being level 25 and you now have to grind a shitton of games just to get an ultra shitty pistol.

>>502354081
they specifically said they ain't touching pvp until 2025.

>>502346170
This and vanguard with the extra melee damage instead of cooldown on lethal.
>>502348940
You should always plan for the worst possible outcome, especially when playing with randoms.

>>502358818
Melee damage > cooldown

You're not going to do finishers

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peak melee weapon

nothing beats this

>>502358912
Yes I will, what are you even talking about. The HP is bloated but not THAT much.

Blood Ravens colors still fucked, or did they at least manage to do something good with the update?

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Do the in-game files have the high-res images used for operations missions icons?

>>502366102
I have no idea

>>502353669
saw it 3 times last week. twice on ruthless, once on lethall. none of them had healbanner.

did you play vermintide 2? one character had a defensive ability that "healed" the team and knocked enemies back. they gave this ability, the ability that prevents downs, a talent that rezzes fallen allys within range. so retards would pick it and never ever use the ability just in case someone got downed.
i´m sure glad saber didn´t make the same mistake when designing bulwarks talent tree.

>>502366102
I have some idea

>>502368141
>none of them had healbanner.
Should be automatically kicked desu

Hey the SMG is actually pretty good now.

>>502373351
yes

ZOANTHROPES ARE MASSIVE NIGGERS

>>502375185
They need a bigger cool down on their attacks. It really says something when Neurothropes are easier to deal with.

>>502375185
>>502375515
I'd say they need a slower cooldown on the shield and only when they can draw a clear unobstructed LoS between each other, and make the tracking on the beam attack clearer, I'm sick of dodging it wide just to get damaged anyway.

>have heal banner
>heavy and tactical shoot executable enemies anyway

is heavy the easier PvE class?

>>502376873
When it comes to killing power I'd say he's third, maybe second if you factor in chaff clearing. Once you get a relic plasma cannon be might be number one.

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>>502107896
>>502132837
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Welcome Brothers! After a brief interlude we are back with another update of the Dude Wall. This time it is more substantial than the previous one.
- All the latest Dude submissions have been included (the same goes for Dude updates);
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- As mentioned above, the website has seen a refresh. Most significant alteration I have made is switching machine spirit for hosting the Dude Wall, which now allows much higher resolution. Moving forward a very high resolution image will be available on the Website alongside updated one that I post here.

There are a few other changes in the pipeline that aim to improve some of the Wall's older elements. Rest assured, it isn’t anything garish.

Thank you for all the submissions and of course I encourage you to post more.

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Sniper's lone carbine perk is pathetic, no one cares about faster reload speed.

>>502364118
>>502364431
Lots of ideas for sm2g chapter colors.

>>502385690
Glad I could help a little bit

>>502382556
>>502385789
You're alright Brothers. Emperor's Blessings for you!

>>502364118
>pink aquila
Disgusting

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if it aint glowing red you can parry it, stop being pussies

>everyone pretty much knows how to deal with assaults in PVP in most maps now
NONONO ROCKETBROS

>>502396885
They shine in Capture and Control...but only high IQ people play that mode anyway.

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anyone make the ancap marines yet

>astartes adds two new operations
Incredibly based mod

>>502396579
No.

Finally leveled up all of the guns, I can finally quit this game until the next update.

Carbines are trash even with the newest update and the Bolt sniper rifle and Stalker bolter need more ammo.

>>502397593
There are a few in the marine compilation.
>>502382556

>>502401236
The SMG is pretty good, and the Sniper and Stalker have a decent ammo pool, you just need to learn how to pick your targets a bit better, and when to take out your pistol and knife.

>>502401501
Why are you guys calling it an SMG when that's an actual old school bolter still being used by primaris marines.

>>502404352
its functionaly a SMG/PDW
low damage, good brrrt, higher than average mag

>>502404352
If it looks like an SMG, and acts like an SMG, it’s an SMG.

Don’t die yet

>>502332379
Can finish leveling all the garbage so I have relic versions available when they're finally buffed

>>502382556
>won't ever have anything interesting enough for the dudewall

>>502332379
Oh good i can finally finish leveling my bulwark.

>>502332379
Is there a mod that lets me skip the weapon grind yet? Needing to spend 10 hours grinding out a new weapon to actually be usable is an absolutely baffling design decision.

>>502414380
I think Saber planned for everyone to go from the lowest to highest difficulty for each weapon, but I'm not smoking the crack that would lead to the only Bolter that's popular is the one that relies on grenade spam to be decent

>>502418001
i think the problem is that a lot of the bolters "scale welll with difficulty" meaning they perform less and less in harder modes, making it more difficult, as intended.
theres just a bunch of weapons that blast straight through that notion and make any difficulty piss easy, see GL

>>502418543
>i think the problem is that a lot of the bolters "scale welll with difficulty"
yeah, needing to burn 33% of your total primary ammo pool to kill a single majoris enemy unit sure is good scaling.

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>>502418543
Ah but you see, it's a feature to push you into prioritizing being able to get every round to be a headshot, AND at close range to avoid damage falloff, AND manage to avoid using with gunstrikes, AND learn to rely on teammates being competent enough to assist you on things you can't reliably kill. Or just use the GL Bolter, Melta, or Plasma Gun and actually be able to kill things at a decent speed

>>502419525
thats clearly over exaggerated, but still speaking to my point, harder difficulties are harder with bolters, with for example, the plasma incinerator, ruthless still feels like substantial, but at bubstabtial a bolter is performing was better than on ruthless

>>502420115
So, still enjoying the game, I take it?

>>502420598
The actual mechanics are decent, I'm just salty because Bolters could be better

>>502420162
>thats clearly over exaggerated
It's about 30 bullets to bring a majoris to execution range so you are indeed right about it being an over exaggeration, it is however about 1/6th of your total primary ammo pool.

>>502420856
well, my major gripe is the lack of player driven comeback, youre at the mercy of the ai director to hand out stims or your probably retarded bulwark,
should you fuck up a parry or reflexed a parry on an undodgeable attack

like, give me like 1-2% on a majoris finisher, pls

>>502410746
You can post your Dude regardless of his bling level, Brother. It doesn't have to be anything fancy. That's what Dude Wall is all about.

>>502396579
can the astartes mod (or any other mod) replace all regular enemies with boss encounters? or guarantee the boss spawns in the earliest hardcoded boss arena? Or replace majoris in challenges with bosses? I would like to learn to melee the helbrute, but I can't stand fucking repetition in getting to one.

>>502424839
I personaly think unadorned marines stick out a little more because theyre less cluttered, the other dudes kinda become noise and the plain dudes stand out clearer

>>502425292
I'm not sure it can do that. I looked at it the mod page and it seems like at best you could tweak the config files to have the bosses spawn more often. It's a stretch though, but who knows, maybe what you want can be pulled off.

>>502418001
>I think Saber planned for everyone to go from the lowest to highest difficulty for each weapon
Double XP brought more players today, I'm seeing low level shitters getting kicked again in lobbies.

Assault is the Intelligent Man's choice

>fixed chainsword double stomp last patch
>broke it again this patch
version control? what's that?

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yall dont get paid like me

>>502436246
does the weekend boost apply to weapon xp too?

>>502437859
i imagine so? i can't tell because i maxed out everything

>>502437859
Yes

It only takes 2 gene seed matches + 1 regular game on Ruthless to clear Artificer and Relic

Only one regular game from gray to green and one gene seed game from green to purple

I'm not sure if the weekend is also double XP on PvP

Itd be nice if we can have other forms of health items. Like something that fills up a bit of chp for a duration. Stims could be the one thing that recovers wound, but is rarer and heals more, whereas this new item is more numerous and only heals a single bar and cannot heal mortal wound.

Inner Fire really is team dependant

Tactical - depending on the players lust for melee he loves it or doesnt feel it at all
Assault - likes it, but can live without it, but 15% melee dmg might be overkill with his kit
Vanguard - likes it, obviously
Bulwark - LOVES IT, full heals, all day everyday, nobody has to miss a pixel of health
Sniper - again, strongly depends if the player likes t melee, doesnt give a shit most of the day i'd say
Heavy - doesnt give a shit, if youre in melee, you probably dont care about the Aegis

So volkite, damage or ammo?

>>502434475
PF assault is for masterminds.

Why would I use the Bolt Sniper over the Las Fusel?

>>502448476
Ammo

Damage is negligible, the damage version will probably be buffed in the next update

>>502448476
Due to how Volkite works, for now at least, I'd go for ammo.

>>502450394
You shouldn’t

>>502450394
statisticly; never
but i like clicking heads like in ye olden days of call of dooty, so the gun kinda scratches that itch, especialy with the class perk, feels kinda like running a DMR, except good, unlike the stalker