Space elf editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>502080258>Latest News/Updates:Darktide: Hotfix #51 (1.5.4)https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4539157321628805552Darktide Released Slop : https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Commodore%27s_VesturesVermintide 2:VERSUS IS OUThttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/versus-is-out-now-free-new-pvp-game-mode-patch-6-0-0-hotfix-6-0-2/101222Helldivers 2:Patch 1.001.102https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___Wartracker:https://helldivers.io/Info:https://divers.ggDeep Rock Galactic:https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749Payday 3:https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/Remnant 2:The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___Earth Defense Force 6https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2Left 4 Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFOThe Forever WinterNo More Room in Hell 2>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBABuild planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>502221778Fatshark give us the space elf!
>>502222231can they be part of the Inquisition?
>>502222231Best I can do is schizo niggas. Take it or leave it.
>>502222440what was the plan?
>>502222270Both the Inquisition and Rogue Traders are sanctioned to use and abuse xenos for the good of the imperium
>>502222270You can bullshit pretty much everything with Inquisitor authority.But if the Inquisitor isnt a lone radical weirdo, having one in the retinue is fast approaching zero. Momentary alliances of convenience are already a once in a millennia stretch.Both have a high chance of getting BLAMed in the long run.
Smigger-chan, do your partners wear condoms when they are with you or do you just make a psychic dome arou d your womb to keep the semen out?
So why DOES Raytracing make my Frames shid their pants?
>>502222440>"Your service is complete, Veteran."
>>502222440https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ZYFo1Lmdc
Fucked up catgirls exist
>2 groups of pox hounds spawn at the same time>counted at least 12>killed 5 with kickback with one shot>entire group gets jumped by a third pack that spawned out of the door behind us >failperfect comedic timing can't even be mad
>>502222270Doesn't matter. I'm going to kill the freaks if they ever show up in my game.
>>502209046#welcome to pvp games against intelligent humans buddy
>People STILL don't know that you can bring down that ladder in Righteous Stand and so bypass entire barracks section>Everyone is adamant about going through that ridiculous maze and getting gassed, burned, shot and hooked>I take time to explain it to team during spawn time>Even take them there when playing as Skaven first, ping and explain in simple sentences>Game starts as heroes, I go first so they will see what I'm doing, I bring it down immediately and ping few times so they can take notice>I climb it, I ping it again and quickly write in chat to use the ladder>Never fucking worksHonestly the most maddening experience in Versus. Worst thing is that it even takes enemy Pactsworn team by surprise. It should be an instawin cheat code to be honest. I thought that it will be removed during one of the betas, it's so strong. I'm never getting paired with team that knows about it or is even capable of following through.Here is what I'm talking about, just so you know.
What are good autoguns on zealot nowadays?
they need to make the smoke penance private only. this shit is redonculus
>>502224567WHAT
>>502221938>M1 spamPresumably with doubleshot and void nexus? If that's the case then you pretty much have all your CC covered, and I'd recommend Smite just to deal with Poxbursters effortlessly.
>>502225171Noob
>>502225436That crap is modded. I'm gonna test it later today..
Is the versus mode worth the 100GB download on my third world internet? It's been like 6 years since Vermintide 2 came out ffs. Get it together Fat Shark
>>502226029why do you live in third world
>mk5 dueling sword has mobility AND defense and both affect dodge distancethe fuck?
did anyone bother to watch the Fatshark stream today?
>>502226109I actually live in a southern state in America
>>502228031I get it, you tried to make a joke about how the US is third world, the issue is that your grasp of the language is so poor that 1. I can tell you're some BR faggot 2. you unintentionally stated that you're from south america
>>502228278nta but I'm from BR too in case you wanted to know
>>502227983busy slaying noobs in vs
>>502222440Vibe check.
Does Vermintide II have cross-platform multiplayer?
>>502230298no
>>502230298i don't think so
>>502225171Well now you know. Incendiary bomb doesn't work, it has to be explosive. Didn't work with weapons for me either. Maybe trollhammer torpedo could work.
Any penalties for leaving early in versus? I'm not planning on playing the heroes
>>502230330>>502230342Oh, hamburgers. I do appreciate the heads up, thank you.
what the next darktide content drop? any news? new map? new weapons?
>>502231953lol xd
What the difference between assist speed and revive speed? Vet talent gives both. Is assist speed for rescuing?
>>502232257what? they said they would release another update before the end of the year, and it's already mid november
>>502232480I still remember when they said we would get a new class every quarter.You are not getting shit, its winter holidays from now till new years.
>>502232480Falling for another FartShart promise
>take a shit>decide to check /coopg/ before wiping real quick>drop a little bit of poop on my chairfuck my life
>>502233405One time I had a lil congestion and a sneeze unclogged a compressed nugget that rolled down my pants leg.
>>502232664I mean considering the game is 2 years old and that the talent tree update introduced new abilities, nades, and keystones, that's probably what they repurposed from new classes, so we did get 8 new classes, just not the way most people expected, it's more like VT2 where you have 5 characters with different careers that share same weapons and same levels.They probably realized that leveling something from 1 to 30 every 3 months, then grinding for gear, and just having 12+ characters would be a pain, so they went VT2 route, which is arguably better.
>>502233837Reworks are not new classes, stop coping.
>>502234035They literally are. It's why Fatshark put emphasis on distinguishing "Archetype" and "Class". Veteran is an "Archetype", "Sharpshooter" was a "Class". "Classes" which we got through rework were datamined at release and they are explicitly what we got in skill rework.
>>502233837>>502234035They did say pre release that classes would be "different and more free form than vt2 careers" but the game was rushed out the door and obviously this wasnt true at launch.This lines up perfectly with what the talent tree ended up being.My guess is when they said one new class per quarter they were just going to take the planned talent tree stuff and turn it into vt2 careers. Then they redecided once more and made them into the original vision instead, freeform talents.In other words we did get those classes. When youre acting like they promised a new whole class a la veteran, zealot, etc per quarter then you are dishonest and engaging in anachronism. At the time they were referring to one branch of a talent tree as a class, basically.
>>502232480>one new class every quarter!
>>502234035>i-it doesn't count because i said soSee >>502234483Before talents in darktide a class was a set of weapons, ability (singular), and grenade type (singular).Talent system gave us 12 abilities and 12 grenades in total and a lot of other shit to choose from, that you can mix and match in many different ways, so it is objectively way better than just adding "new classes" within old pre-talents DT and this system objectively has a lot more depth than careers in VT2.You are wrong, deal with it.
>rats get 5 weeks of events with 5 frames and additional cosmetics earned through simple gameplay>piggies get more commodore mtxthe world is healing
honestly just post the class rework PR shit they put out where they actively say that the rework was the original intended system but they changed it before release to be more like VT/VT2 linear unlock system
>>502234776>two more or less competing games from the same company don't get updates at the same timeI wonder why that is?
Damn. Chainaxe is pretty good now
>>502234582Yes, it's obvious this happened. In trailer you even selected overall "Archetype" and then presumably got assigned "Class" name depending on skill tree choices. This was reworked into VT2 style Careers by the time of closed beta.
>>502234758>this system objectively has a lot more depth than careers in VT2.not him and I think the system is fine and we did get new classes via that, but I woulda preferred the vt2 way purely because it was cooler. You could instantly tell someone was a BH and you knew what he was gonna be doingmeanwhile in DT every vet looks the same and yells no matter what he branched into
It's hilarious how mentally ill ratfags get btfo every single time and then try to stir shit up from nothing again, because that's what they'd rather do instead of playing their supposedly good game. I guess every general has that one group of mental patients who refuse to take their medication.
Why does Vermintide have 5 extra levels past 30 for players? How broken would some builds in Darktide become if you were able to get 5 more talent points?
>>502235506If youre referring to >>502235357 I also wrote >>502234582 and I like both games, I just prefer set in stone careers for balance and variety reasonsnot everything has to be a weird tribalistic game of us vs them you know?
>>502235708They'd just adjust enemy health so all the breakpoints stay in the same place more or less, they can expand talent trees and character powers however they want, its game design.The only reason there are talent trees instead of a simple ability choice is so players feel like they have choices and individualised builds.
>>502222231>wanting to hear them bitch about the monkeys all game longThat's gonna be a spacing
>>502227418Yeah the Mk V is kinda like the knife except it doesn't have the crit. But the mobility and damage is pretty damn similar.
>>502237143monkeighs and mayflies
>>502235871>If youre referring toI am not.>not everything has to be a weird tribalistic game of us vs them you know?Tell this to ratfags, they're the ones who start the shitflinging.
>>502238567I would be surprised if there was a single person in this general who has hours in ratclick that doesnt also have a similar amount of hours in shopclick
>>502234776>5 frames5 from doing skaven and troll challenges, 2 more are bought for marks
>>502239110I have about 250 hours in ratmintide 2 and 1600 hours in darkmintide
>>502237590I just finished rogue trader I don't want to play it again..
>>502240457You will do the space exploration and Cumrag trip again.
>>502240323>he doesnt know
>>502240573doesn't know whatI corrected you, it's 7 frames
>>502240457Arbites expansion soon brother
>>502240952>he ACTUALLY doesn't knowthere, open wide
>>502240323>>502240952Embarrassing retard.
>>502241225this week doesn't have a frame it's elf pose https://www.vermintide.com/counter
NO CRYING UNTIL I SAY SO
>>502241456...You actually are so fucking retarded it hurts, holy fuck.No, you fucking dumbass. NO. READ THE PICTURE AGAIN.
>>502241652yeah but what if I play 3 hours and not 2 hours?
>>502241225I didn't check out versus yet and didn't follow any of it really (i'll check it out with friends eventually)but am I seeing this right, it's basically getting its own equivalent to the darktide penance track update just by-the-by? insane how lazy the shopclick team is
>>502241652>read the picture
I also don't appreciate that you are rude to me while posting my rat images>>502241652
>>502241940well your mom sure appreciates my cock B^)
>>502240573>>502241652why are vermintiders this toxic?darktide wins again
>>502241750>>502241802>>502241852>>502241940>>502242162HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING RETARDED FAGGOTSNOOOOOOOO IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THATYOU FUCKING PLAY THE GAME FOR 3 HOURS AND YOU GET A SPECIAL DLC NEXT WEEK WITH ALL THE STUFF IN THAT FUCKING POSTHOLY SHIT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS DOGSHIT GENERALARE DARKTIDE PLAYERS THIS FUCKING BRAINROTTEN???
>>502242201Be nice
>>502242253TURN ON YOUR FUCKING EYES AND BRAIN
>>502222440this barrel is a classic, it's positioning is so perfect, it's no mere happenstance, fs I do kneel yet again
>>502242351my fucking eyes? my eyes for fucking?
>visit /coopg/ after half a year>still full of coping darkturders and shitposters flinging insults and seething at each otherat least nothing has changed
>>502241110delayed to march 205
>>502242201how tf do you guys read that website without burning your eyeballs?
sex
>>502242469FUNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII JOKE
>>502239110trueeveryone post your /tide/ hoursIt annoys me that steam took away Vermintide 2 beta from my account
>>502243146VT: 20 hoursVT2: 274 hoursDT: 637 hours, them unfucking crafting has made me put in another 200+ hours since the patch dropped.
>>5022431462700 in ratclick, 800 in shopclickkinda getting tired of these games desu
>two BoN at the same time>another as soon as the second dies>walk 15 feet>plague ogryn as well >and 3 bulwarks>and 2 crushers>and some mutants
>>502243146Darktide is simply dogshit and not worth my time.
>>502243146my potato couldn't handle the beta so I never bothered
>>502245094>not worth my time>144 hourshuh
>>502245484shut up casual
I just broke through 200 Hours.Ogryn main.I just started dabbling with Psyker.I only blew myself up twice last mission.They call me the Malice Menace.
>>502243146~250 hours in VT2~800 hours in DTBeen meaning to play more VT2 because I miss the better melee combat, but my friends all prefer DT.
>>502246160Venting Shriek m8Will save you from exploding
>>502245484I tried so hard to like it, but everything screams budget swede team at Fatshark.
Canon loadouts for every classveteran: sapper shovel and infantry lasgunzealot: thunder hammer and flamerogryn: knife and ripper gunpsyker: a fat dildo in his ass
>>502249372..bussin...bussin..
>>502249219I exploded twice with shriek...When I start killing, I go to my happy place and its hard to watch numbers and CDs.Sure it will become habitual after a while.
>>502246160Psyker really needs it later perks and capstones to feel a lot better to play, more reliant than other classes I'd say.
damn gunlooger ogryn with a rumbler that has blaze away + blast zone (plus the 30% blast radius talent) is kind of crazy fun actually. It eats ammo like crazy but it just deletes everything that isnt a crusher, and so long as you're not magdumping poxwalkers it's manageable really
Anyone else stuttering like crazy post versus update?
>>502252801Also since lucky bullet doesn't do shit on it anyway you get to take fnp instead so you're borderline unkillable on a ranged playstyle with that
>>502243146
>>502233405>>502233684There is something deeply wrong with you
>>502243146-VT1 about 25 >got into it late, but wanted to experience the campaign for the fun of it-VT2 about 1000>also got into it late, but still got my time in. goat'd game and I still play a match or two a week-DT around 900>played since closed beta, but game just doesn't feel as polished so I don't no life the game
This game is FINALLY coming to PS5 because it’s reached the state it should have been in at launch so I’ll be moving in now. Hello /coopg/. Just curious, but for those of you who were playing since the beginning of the shit show, what have been your favorite improvements and QOL updates? What future content updates do you hope will come about? Are we really getting an Eldar or is that just memeing?
>>502255045Dude calm down, it's Fatshark
>>502255045Dude hype up, it’s FatShark!
>>502243146>>502244063>>502244117>>502245094>>502245474>>502247782>>502253226>>502254674virginity: the posts
>>502255045>what have been your favorite improvements and QOL updates?Definitely the personality scourge/character remake option. Deleted and levelled several characters before they added it as I wanted to try different voices. This lets me play around with much less pain.>What future content updates do you hope will come about? New classes (it will never happen)> Are we really getting an Eldar or is that just memeing?Extra never happening
>>502256003>>>/facebook/Away with ye, normalfaggot.
>>502256003Then how you explain my cum dripping out yo ass?
>>502256003Please don’t make fun of me :(
>>502255045>>502256091the game will only be in a complete state when we get female aeldari and sororitas classes and can make them kiss in game
I want the enforcer class...and i want it NOW!!!
>>502256417in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there is no kissing only fighting
No kissing?
>>502256003you can help fix that :^)
why is this place not just /tide/ again? no one plays those literal who games except like space marine 2
>>502257418it was never /tide/ (except when some retard tried to make it a thing and failed) but go ahead, show us how much of a newfag you are
>>502257418this was /pdg/ originally
>>502257418nothing is stopping you from making /tide/, just remember that you can't force people to do what you want
>>502257418From our humble beginnings as /vtg/ and in our magnanimity towards the failing generals of our brothers, we graciously allow lesser peasant games a place in our general, and foster the belief in their poor beleaguered delusional souls that they too may be discussed. This proud tradition continues today, where other coop games die, the Tide always comes in.
>>502257562>>502257895relax, it’s just a simple question and observation, the other games in the OP are virtually never talked about, hence why I asked my question. hell, space marine 2 literally has its own general.>>502257868i think I remember that too
>fartshart adds penances for the new rolling steel mission>then rolling steel disappears off the fucking mission boardwhy are they so retarded
>>502258247you're litteraly a low IQ turbo retard and should just shut the fuck up already
>>502258210i guess that makes sense. not that im opposed to it but it would seem to me like an exclusive tide general could stand on its own given their popularity
>>502258440ok ESLtard don’t get your panties in a twist sorry i offended whatever deranged sensibilities you have that caused you to shit yourself at the sight of my question
>>502243146I have extensive COOP knowledge.
>>502258832Good Pajeet, now take your shit english with you and shut the fuck up
>>502258247>space marine 2 literally has its own generalyes and it's literally 2 people bumping it constantly lol
>>502258960>immediately switches to capitalizing to hide it>”y-y-y-you’re the indian Saar!!!!pathetic
>>502258575Coop games have cycles and crossover in player base, eventually discussion of whatever new game or content update gets exhausted then its shitposting to keep the general alive. Opening up to general coop discussion, even dead coop, keeps things at least mildly on topic longer before it degenerates into constant backbiting and drama.
>>502259085yeah it does looks slow. guess the lack of content doesn’t really help.
>>502259356In english, please.
>>502259410yeah, i suspected as much, but with 2 games (technically 3 but no one plays VT1 i guess) i figured it could do better than the average games exclusive general. i guess as long as discussion stays focused on the bigger games it’s whatever 502259590no more (You)s :)
I'm glad the resident Pajeet gave up finally :)
>>502259965>but with 2 games (technically 3 but no one plays VT1 i guess) i figured it could do better than the average games exclusive general.Check out /dsg/ sometime if you want. It's literally a private chatroom between 3 trannies at this point. They post nudes at eachother sometimes, unironically, and not the kind you would want to see
>>502260170TRANNY REPORTING IN SIRYESSIR OORAH*twerks*
>>502260170I thought that became fromg or something
>>502261346fromg doesn'tt have enough ppl to keep it alive because ok here's the breakdown>there's dsg and bbg>bbg dies not enough discussion>dsg keeps going, albeit zombified>elden ring comes out>dsg makes 'eroge' which stands for elden ring online general>people who used to browse dsg, bbg, and v come to eroge because new game is released and hate the new name>erg is made and eroge is deleted, most of the dsg people who made eroge go back to dsg>so now theres erg and dsg>people want to discuss lies of pi and nioh or whatever and don't like dsg because dsg doesn't want that discussion in their general, so fromsoft general - fsg is made>also there was armored core general on vg for a bit that was funny and then it died and they were all absorbed into /m/'s /acg/ which was a thing since foreveranyhow>dsg dies constantly without bumps>fsg dies constantly without bumps>also dsg posters are posting on fsg, dsg and erg>fsg dies again>nobody wants to remake it>now its just dsg and erg again, both generals have died down to about similar activity and are constantly filled with offtopic, namefags, coomer ai posts, and genuine schizo talk
it's up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7j-xx1tLI
>>502263273Kill yourself, tranner
>>502263273Love yourself, Tanner
>>502263273that's a cool outfit
>>502263273What’s up? My cock? Yes, it is. Thank you for noticing.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=21EiQkKuvREHoly smokes. Real life predicted the dominance if darktide sabers
>>502263273Why isn't he screeching? What the fuck is wrong with him?
>>502264730We broke his spirit. It won't be long before he kills himself
>>502264730bratty boy got corrected
>>502264730I had a night with him.He's calm now.
>>502261962dsg for life...
a max height vet can literally shoot a bulwark in the head over his shield, doesn't even need to jumpmanlets lose again
Best sienna class & weapon to play in Versus? I tried Pyromancer with Sword+Bolt Staff, and is not bad, but charging & aiming non-npc rats is kinda hard.
>>502266180dagger + bolt staffuse F for faraway gunnersuse staff LMB for bullying assassinsweaponrats are slow in cqc so you can charge bolts at them
>>502265992I made my Psyker a manlet to contrast my Ogryn.Whats the height meta? Am I missing out on perfect headshot line ups with my boomstaff?
>>502265992>meanwhile minimum height vet just throws a krak grenadeLanklets btfo
>>502263273>seeths about posting screencaps of hate comments in his trooncord server>oh hey guys, here's a 15 minute vid about 1 hate posterbravo tanner, bravo
>>502265967spiccer moment
Did fatshark nerf crafting when they dropped Versus? I've been trying to craft throwing axes since I like the weave skin, but so far in my 30+ attempts the highest I got was 297 Power.Tried opening some chests and I got the same result, why the fuck is getting 300 Power harder now?
>>502267791ummmm your red dust?
>>502263273is it another video where he cries about /coopg/ being mean to him that he will delete after 10 min?
>>502267791>webmKekPost more Verminfunnies
>nigger picks up 15 ammo pickups and five ammo bags >least kills and least damage on the team>used "I need ammo!" voiceline more than once in game>was NOT the only ranged class in the matchi'm uninstalling the scoreboard mod, i think i dont actually want to know these things
>>502267791saltzpyre is so fucking hot but you just know he smells like he sweats whisky
>>502269616sorry i thought that was grenade launcher, ogryn moment
>>502268893worse>plebbit
>>502266451>Whats the height meta? Am I missing out on perfect headshot line ups with my boomstaff?Yeah actually thats a good reason you wanna be height maxed. Also visibility and better angles for melee headshots too
>>502269616Mobility. But I think you already knew that and you just wanted a (you).
>>502263273should comment on his videos telling him they're boring now that he's not a screeching sperg anymore. It's not even false, he actually is boring as fuck when he isnt
I finally get a HISTG where nobody leaves when they die and this what the emperor gives me.>>502269352I just wish it wasn't bugged like fuck. the damage numbers are all over the place. what the fuck is my total damage? Actual damage says 900k, but my melee damage and ranged damage combined are more than 1.1 million, and how the hell does overkill factor into this
3 host disconnects in a row in versus
>>502270220hun, you're supposed to be doing quick play
>>502269949no i didn't, but thank youjust found this good shotgun, will be on the lookout for 60mob rumblers...
>>502270453I am
>>502269839why would we care then?
>>502270473there is no host disconnect in quick play, it's dedicated servers not p2p like the rest of the game
>>502270467What are you using the rumbler for? I find it's the best boss killer for ogryn. But apart from that, and being able to do some trick shots with bouncing grenades, I really prefer the grenade gauntlet.
>>502270090Looks like a game I had this morning. It was a mutated horrors power supply interruption Hab Dreyko and I had a guy on my team who I'm almost certain had some kind of disability. He spent the entire mission roleplaying a guardsman over voice (with a genuine retard lisp), barking orders and cackling like a retard as he magdumped his bolter into hordes all while dying on repeat. The other players weren't much better, I had to clutch twice. We had around 20 deaths and the end of the game, I really wonder if people like that are actually having fun when they spend 75% of the game dead and awaiting rescue.
>>502270624i just need to level it upi took it to two missions and didnt like how long it takes for grenades to explode, but maybe i will find a good use for it with just enough pracitce... or something
>>502270591I dont carethe error is the host disconnect thing
>>502270786Well it's a good chance to level it up now what with the extra monster modifier event going on. It feels very satisfying to unload a whole bunch of sticky grenades at the nurgle slugs' backs every mission.
>>502260170>>502261962What an amusing regaling of board events. Thank you.
>>502270090Muh green sirkles
>>502269616Mobility
>>502266451You'll mostly notice it when trying to brainburst people over the railings/fencing that are apparently made out of warp nullifying metals. It's not the worst but it can be an annoyance at times.
>>502257418Honestly, just turn it into /tide/.
>played VT2 to death>waiting on more DT content>tried DRG but didn't like itNeed more coopge, is spess marine worth it?
>>502271948why who gives a shit
>>502271948You don't need to do shit, actually
>>502272274>is spess marine worth it?honestly no, not at full price
>>502271948no
>>502272313why not if you don't care
>>502273243The burden is on you to convince us, not the other way around
>>502272274nope, literally only 6 coop maps and a 1 time wonder campaign
>>502273448>i don't care>....I actually do thoughwoman moment.
>>502269439>saltzpyre is so fucking hotI’m noticing this sentiment is picking up in popularity. Kinda surprising
>>502273629I'm not him. You obviously care and you are calling for people to act/change no good reason
The PS5 trailer is actually pretty cool. Makes me wish Grendel played a larger role in the actual game. Or that we would finally get an Inquisitor class. >https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_XqYUfiY7Y
I just want new weapons, maybe a new map
>>502273934You ain't getting shit before i get my enforcer class
>>502272274I made the mistake of preordering it and dropped it the literal first day. I just couldn’t bring myself to continue. Shit feels unsatisfying as fuck to play and not at all like you’re a goddamn Space Marine. Wait for a sale honestly.
Filthy Imperial, pick your>state>waifu>husbando
>>502274147A lot of games feel like shit to play after hundreds of hours in 'tide games
>>502274061>Marta sports the blonde bunches, wide blue eyes, and dimpled checksliterally sex
>>502274297made for rat sex
>>502273821I didn't say I didn't care, I'm not even the person who suggested the change. I just personally think it is basically a tide games general inside and out and naming it anything else is nonsensical. If someone changed it next thread, I think it would be for the better.
>>502274430>I didn't say I didn't careI said you DO care. It has worked well enough for long enough amd changing it just to change it without considering why it worked and what potentially negative effect it could have on the long term health of the general. Don't change something for no reason when it has been working fine for a long time, and if your suggested change is truly for the better, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it and convince everyone. This goes for pretty much everything in life
>>502274264Nordland husbando, Wissenland wife, Averland life
>>502274971it sounds like you have emotional attachment to the name of a 4chan general for some odd reason
>>502274264Averlander but I have a dwarf wife
>>502275254Got an argument or are you done?
>>502275487disgusting
>>502274147Yeah, the melee combat feels fucking silly and I personally thought the sound design on the weapons was kinda weak and impotent. Even Streum On's mistake of a game captured the feeling of being a space marine better.
YUH
What does crits actually do? It is just extra damage or are there other mechanics involved? Maybe extra cleave?shopclick
>>502275520I said that the general basically only talks about Tide games already, that means it's a Tide general. Naming it anything else isn't logical. Your only argument is, "it worked", but that doesn't really mean anything. What do you even mean by that anyway?
>>502222231>can they be part of the Inquisition?No but inquisitors can break the rules until someone with more political influence than them finally gets pissed off and ruins their day for them. Up until then inquistors can mostly do whatever they want.
>>502275854yes
>>502275857not him but why do something with no purpose? it would satisfy your autism?
>>502274264Source for any of this? Or is it all artist head canon?Anyway:>Middenland>Wissenlander wife>Talabeclander wife 2 (Not gay)
>>502276272No purpose? Proper name would attract more Tide players to the general, that certainly is a purpose.
>>502276778If you punch either of the names into the search you get here anyway.You act like we get a lot of window shopper foot traffic.
>>502277068If people go to the catalogue, they'll be attracted to names of generals and definitely join a Tide one if they see it and are interested in Tide games. That is as logical argument as you can get. The second reason I already stated, it's a Tide general inside and out. All you're doing is hurting discussion of other coop games by burying it away here. Another very logical argument. Your turn.
>>502275487>dwarf wifeWhy would you want to do this to yourself
>>502277367>get to cum inside a cute nerdy short stack every nightWorth it
>>502277367post a real dwarf woman you bigot
>>502275857When there's nothing new out, that's true. We've talked other stuff to exhaustion, and the -tide games are peek /coop/ing. There was a lot of HD2 talk for a couple months when that launched though. You're welcome to go make your /tideg/ instead.>>502276778But we're not a tide general. We're a coop general. Like the other anon said, we have the tide game titles in the OP which shows up in the catalogue search anyway. That's plenty.
>>502275543Sign me up
>>502276064We already have examples of Inquisitors of collaborating with Eldar anyway, one of them get so close with them they have her Aeldari weaponry and everything
>>502270591swear to got it happens when there's a chance someone would ragequit
>>502277704Imagine the smell
when the hell is that darktide update coming out?
>>502278263What one? The PS5 release is on December 3rd if that's what you mean.
>>502277716Having rare discussion about another game doesn't warrant it being a general, that is more suited for an individual thread on the general video games board. There is only active and constant discussion about Tide games here, hence it is a Tide general. Shoehorning other coop games into it because you talked about them once, isn't active discussion enough for a general, and hence, should not be in this general. It should instead be a topic of its own individual thread, and if that has enough discussion, it should then get its own general. A more accurate name for this general would be "Tide Games and maybe other related co-op games once every blue moon when someone brings them up".
>>502278506nah
>>502278456The one that they recently made a teaser trailer for.
>>502278696Okay.
>>502273934>Inquisitor with a hot shot Las pistol that one shots everythingImagine…
>>502273746It is? I always thought the Krubersreik 5.. or 4... doesn't matter... had allure particularly because all the characters are quite mature. God damn Kruber is the youngest and he's a middle aged sergeant who's already been through some real shit.
>>502274264you know the female Reiklander is a massive gigawhore and her husand a turbocuck
>>502279234Sienna is the youngest, she just looks old because of the magic aging her
>>502277927Imagine the smell
plasma gun dump stat? nothing really stands out to me
>>502278706Soon™
>>502279540Probably smells like fresh bread
>>502279681iirc charge rate was bugged at one point to where you would want exactly 71% because any more or less would slightly reduce the damage on your primary. I'm not sure if this is still the case, and whether this would even hurt your breakpoints. I'd assume thermal is the worst stat.
>>502280182obviously you don't know what they say about how redhead women smell lol
>>502280214>wasYeah.>>502279681Thermal.
>>502280647>>wasSo did fagshart actually fix something for once? Because that would mean I can replace my old 70% charge plasma.
>>502280316Who's they?
>>502280316Uhh… what do they say…?
>>502280859Londoners.
Martyrdom combat knife.
>>502278034It's never approved. It's always inquisitors doing their "rules for thee but not for me" shtick which works right up until someone bigger than them catches wind and then the shit always hits the fan.
>>502282039> which works right up until someone bigger than themWhich, in fairness, is not a very long list, pretty much only the most powerful people in the Imperium can hold them accountable, and it’s common knowledge a lot of them get up to some shady stuff, most just turn a blind eye because there’s more pressing things to be concerned about
>>502281816I have seen it do very well. You can easily do a martyr + crit build with the knife
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE SLUGTIDE
>>502284085Why? It's pretty easy
>>502284085I like that this event gave my ambuscade raking fire builds some time in the spotlight, but a lot of other people feel the same way about their epic single target bosskiller builds so every time a slug spawns everybody races to claim their green circles and it feels like the mexican standoffs that would occur in the early days of MMOs when people would stand around mob spawn points and compete to kill them first
>>502283048It becomes a question of semantics. "Can they" as in "are they allowed to consort with xenos or daemons?" No, they're not. But they're also in a position where they can do what they want and most people aren't in much of a position to ask questions. Just like corrupt politicians. Ostensibly they are bound the same laws and regulations as ordinary citizens, but in practice they can bend and break the rules so long as they either keep their dealings secret or play the political game to stay in good graces.But inquisitors can, and do, get branded as traitors, hunted, and killed by the Imperium. They can be called out on their shit not just by members of their own order but also by sufficiently high ranking members of the Astartes, Eclesiarchy, Mechanicus, or even particularly influential Governors. The inquisitor doesn't even need to truly be a traitor. He may very well have been breaking the rules because he thought it was best for the imperium. The rules are there because such thinking has blown up on others in the past. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.If he has enough political capital, if he can grease the right palms, call in the right favors, speak the right words, then he might be able to clear his name or get people to just look the other way. But if he can't then it will be his undoing. Inquisitors can't just wave their rosette around and do whatever they damn well please because "LOL, Inquisition." Radical actions are serious business that can cost Inquisitors a great deal.
>>502280768They did.Incredible, ain't it? Only took them fucking forever and a day.
halfway there
>>502284849>But if he can't then it will be his undoing. Inquisitors can't just wave their rosette around and do whatever they damn well please because "LOL, Inquisition." Radical actions are serious business that can cost Inquisitors a great deal.True. I meant more in that if the Radical isn’t *that* radical (or if the Puritan isn’t that puritan, even). Using Xenos weaponry or having Xenos ally contacts isn’t going to garner as many funny looks from the people that matter as much as walking around with a Daemonhost as a pet will, for example, which is more so what I was referring to when I said they’d sooner turn a blind eye than kick up a stink. I know that other Inquisitors are often the ones to apprehend Radicals too, and since the Inquisition doesn’t have a formal hierarchy so to speak they’re kind of left to police themselves, but of course they can’t run around doing whatever willy nilly. To relate back to the point, from a gameplay perspective, it would be a lot more interesting for Grendyl to be a radical who also recruits Aeldari. But I’d even take just an AdMech class at this point.
>>502222440Classic
>>502242425Barrels were never intended to be useful, their only purpose for the longest time was to grief your team.
>play versus for the first time>me and a few friends>start as rats, fun at first but just continually dying almost immediately>heroes get to end without ever getting downedOh, maybe it's just balanced in the hero's favor>play heroes>constantly sniped by ratlings in hidden glitch spots, hit by globadiers we never see>get completely wiped halfway in>Play next map, same thing>esc + QuitI expected the day-one metagaming and glitches, but I dont know why I expected there to be some form of ranked matchmaking. Not going through days of getting sealclubbed for this, but have fun with it!
>>502287674good, there's no risk of you being on my team dragging me down
Knife zealots are all gone. What happened?
>>502288987Dueling Sword became even more meta than knife
>>502288987Duelling Sabre Zealots are the new hotness.
>>502287674People like me already learned a lot from beta tests. Righteous Stand, Against the Grain and Screaming Bell were present previously and on those in particular people know where to do what.Ranked matchmaking might be a thing once players earn their ranks. On other hand, by then Versus playerbase might be so small that game will have to pair whoever it can, ranks be damned. I'm determined to play Versus as much as I can before it dies.
>>502287787I know you like your little dopamine hit from killing the noobs, but having no effective way for new players to ease into the mode isnt great for player retention. Vermintide already has a problem with player count and long lobby waiting times as a result of people being spread out across several different game modes and difficulties. It's on sale for 95% off now, and when these completely new people try versus and get eviscerated by teams of austists who dropped hundreds of hours during the betas, they're going to get turned off the mode real fucking quick. But hey, if you want to corral more players into adventure and pilgrimages, please knock yourself out!
>>502288987Dueling Sword is beyond anything the shit knife ever was.
>>502288987I saw a ton of 'em while I was leveling up my vet, so don't worry, a new generation is moving up the ranks.
looking for a new melee after using a heavy eviscerator and realizing how clunky it is, should I go with a heavy sword or a devil's claw?
>>502289941Heavy sword is great on zealot, devil's claw felt a bit lacking compared to other melee options the class has.
>>502289941devil's claw, you've gonna get raped by rager spam if you do heavy sword coming form the heavy eviscerator
>>502290148but the heavy sword is one of the best weapons in the game at killing ragers
>>502273934>PS5 gets neat little cinematic and kick ass high octane trailer (also longer)>Xbox gets this >https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYtFcbkCV1Ijejmakes you wonder why they even bother with these nutty timed exclusivity deals
>>502290498one of the marks are, the rest you get swamped
>>502291026but they perform nearly identically, I think you haven't used them very much
>>502291086only one has the heavy overhead so you can 1 shot them... are you implying you horizontal heavy ragers to death? plz explain fren
>>502291326Actually both the VI and IX have heavy overheads to start their heavy attacks. The horizontal heavies do work as well though. The heavy sword murderfucks ragers no matter what mark you use, it has a really high modifier vs maniacs and does the job against flak just fine as well.
>>502288987I have been going house-to-house, killing every knife zealot player in the game
>>502289941Rashad. Never the devil's toenail
>>502291759what the fuck I thought only the IX had the overhead... am sorry i doubted you fren, you good fren
>>502263273kill yourself, tranner
tell me dr freeman, if you can, whos panties is he wearing on his head
>>502268893>that never happened
>>502294267This mask doesn't change the voice for me
>>502294267this looks like the kinda guy to shout BENEFICENT EMPEROR when he nut
my axe says REPENT on itwhat does yours say?
>>502294514Isn’t that all of them?
>>502294739You don't need to read my axe because it speaks for itself
>>502294856begone weeb
>>502294856*fucks her*
>>502221778who keeps making these shitty OPs
>>502295449*fucks you back*
>>502294856Nice
>>502294739sweetwhat does mine say?
>exclusively play Auric quickplay and maelstroms for hundreds of hours over the past 6 months>never once see these faggot e-celebs people mention in these threadsIs it just a regional thing or do they only play viewer games so that people don't call them a faggot in game? I play on NA East and I've never once seen these so-called experts at the game show up in my lobbies.
>>502295478what’s wrong with it
>>502296591>NAlol
>>502296591I once played with tanner AMA
>>502296607>elf sex elf sex wife uuuoohhhh
You fags give Tanner so much shit but what have you created lately? How have you helped the community? I would bet real money not a single one of you sweatlord incels could even come CLOSE to his level of skill. It’s fucking pathetic.
>>502296815It's pointless to complain anon, the retarded faggot elfniggers and soroitassy dipshit gooners thrive on the negative attention they get when they shove in everybody else's faces how much they LOOOOOOOVE jacking off to le space elves and space nuns, you just HAVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY LOVE GOONING!!!!
>>502296935tell me dr.tanner, if you can. what is it exactly you have created? can you name even one thing? i thought not.
If you switch the name to 'streamers' it'd make a good copypasta. A kinda forced one but whatever.
>>502296940But even Fatshark knows everyone wants to pounce on the elf, just look at their Vermintide 2 event with a counter of how many times the elf has been pounced in just one day!
>>502297185how come I never get to pounce the elf
>>502221778Me sucking Vets dry so they walk away looking like Christian Bale in the Machinist
>>502297021Tranner did 1 good thing. He shitted on realasianrobot
>tried eviserator, thunderhammer, chainaxe, crusher, and combat blade>still go back to combat axe
>>502297903what does your axe say?
>>502297563It's his direct competition in the market of dogshit takes so of course he did
who is this Tanner guy and why are you fags so obsessed with him
>>502298026My family says to wear a mask cause I'm uglyAnd I get to kill the food cause I’m luckyIt doesn't bug me though, matter of fact I enjoy itBetter drawing blood instead of drawing unemployment
only retarded teenagers unironically obsess over streamers, so its popular to troll the thread by bringing them up, as they produce an easy disgust reaction.
GRIIIIIMMMNIIIIIRRRRRRRRR
THISONESMIINNNEEEEEERE
>>502298691Is this also the reason for all the cringe homoerotic insults?
What character should I play in Darktide?
>Valaya, Dwarf Ancestor Goddess of Home and Hearth, Healing and Brewing is the wife of both Grungni and Grimnirso you’re saying the Dwarfs are a race of cuckolds
>>502299303the one you hate the most
I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying versus. It's way better than during the beta
>>502297903Only the eviscerator, the coombat knife and the saber can compete with rashad
>>502299326It's an open competition. You can bone her too if you're epic.
>>502299534No! Darktide is better! 81 dollars! Player count!
>>502289554Mad cuz bad
>>502287674pvp games arent for everyone, no shame
have you got any good jokes, /coopg/?
>>502300719The current state of Slopclick.
>play a Versus match for 15 minutes>A well earned win coming up>host disconnectsJust a waste of time then? I guess I can say some of the Versus gameplay is fun but its definitely not fun to get absolutely nothing for one's time spent the way VT2 is set up.
>>502301404If you play ratclick then your time is worthless.
>>502301485true, darktide is the superior click
>>502301404Play rat games, win rat prizes.
>>502301404Somebody in the last thread said Versus is on dedicated servers this time around, are you lying or was he?
>>502301746Go look for yourself, you can host a match ingame can't you?When the host disconnected it gave me a window pop up saying that's what happened, too.Now, maybe the rewards were still granted if they're tracking it? I'll have to test to see if it still handed out the currency.
>>502301404>he didn’t pay 81 dollars for the dedicated servers DLC
>have a perfectly good long hair option>absolutely fuck it up for no reason
>>502302871>”female” facesanon why even try put a female hairstyle on it
>>502302871>not picking the silly hairstyle on purposeAbsolute pleb.
dead general
testing, one two
AAAAAH IM LOOOOOGGGIIINGG
>>502307126i wish i was looging rn
Versus fucking sucks in every possible way.Nothing has changed from the beta, it's still a detrimentally unfun gamemode that will be dead by december.They have actually ignored EVERYTHING we screamed about during the 3 fucking betas, it's impressive.>first and foremost, it's not fun to play heavily nerfed versions of the fucking U5, breakpoints are all over the place and pretty much everything from attack speed to crit got nerfed, it feels awful and not worth your time>the rat spawn system is still completely fucked, 2 meters and los are not enough to prevent the entire enemy team spawn behind a pillar>you turn around and suddenly there is a packmaster or a flamerat pushing you a billion meters away because rat knockback is severely increased>btw the rats have no spawn sound effect like in l4d, the above scenario is worsened by the fact that specials are almost completely silent and will ALWAYS take you by surprise>dedicated servers suck, lag and latency issues everywhere to the point where you will get hooked from several meters away or jumped on while the gutter runner is still in the air>the U5 have no more knockback with their ultimates, if you see a hook rat zigzagging to you there is physically nothing you can do unless you have a ranged weapon with good breakpoints, aka you can kill them in one hit otherwise they will just shrug everything off>the opposite scenario plays as well, WS is still hilariously broken with heatseeking arrows that can nullify a good play with a single button, bardin is beyond broken and any cata player with good aim will snipe you as soon as you enter their fov>some careers are extremely broken and unfun to go against, namely good zealots that will solo the entire mission and handmaidens with javelins that will go instantly invisible and nail you from afar>rats have no talents and cannot even be tested in the keep before playing a match, their F ability is a megathrow as it gives the U5 free thpAnd I could go on. Dogshit.
>>502301746Versus is definitely on dedicated servers. You can host yourself a game if you want premade 4 vs 4 among your friends on whichever map you want. Maybe you can also host a public game? And then some unlucky people can join you via quicklplay? This would be weird and kind off defeat the purpose and thus fitting Fatshark.Works on my machine tho. Never got this message.
>>502311816Yeah I figured it was bullshit when Zealot practically solo'd the map when his team was dead.And this was after someone got bile troll and activated horde only for him to just destroy everything.
>>502311816that is why I will always look down on players or jewtubers bragging they are part of their test servers
>>502311816fatshark did a beta and took no feedback and released an unchanged game? i hadn't heard this, you're telling me this for the very first time.
>>502297036>>502297185so trve
>>502299595I don’t know if I like the sound of that…
>>502312663sorry mister president :(
Ummm ratbros we seem to be in low spirits all of a sudden? What gives? I thought we won???
>>502284807>Do a "Boss Killer" hammer build>Routinely top damage for team not just for bosses, but trash as well as elitesI wish people would stop being shit at video games.
>>502276636it a fan-made map and not endorsed by GW or C7 but the guy(Andy Law) later worked on WFRP and worked with Fatshark on the starter set which was set in Ubersreik and had NPCs that matched some of the lead devs of Fatshark at the timeman does draw quite nice maps though
another weekend, another struggle to carry the auric tourists..
>>502316408Best time of the week, playing with the good player autismos gets boring
>get another half baked half assed mode instead of any kind of content revolving around literally any of the other factions that people have been asking for for years
>>502286609LOOK AT THAT OGRYN GO
>when the weapon switch doesnt go through and i just end up whacking niggas wit my piece
>>502317705This is quite the image
>>502315259Hammer really has weaknesses anymore (except for movement). I really wish eviscerators weren't just slower version of chainswords tho.
QRD on dueling sword for psykermark? combos?
>>502318631>markIV>combospoke
>>502303369TWISTED FIRESTARTER
>finish weeklies on good, fun classes (Vet and Zealot)>now have to play shitty, unfun ones'ate psykers, 'ate ogryns, am racist and just don't like em
>>502321635if yous 'ate ogryn then u 'ate urselfsez so in da book
>>502321635What are you spending your melkbux on?
I found the hardest mode in shopclick: HISTG on the latest snow map in regular damnation. It's rare, but it does happen. Just start the lobby and randos straight outta heresy will join from quickplay. This basically tricks noobs into auric. Kinda evil but also very fun if you're a masochist or a sadist or both.
>>502321635why are you farming weeklies? gambling for missing curios?
>>502289554>Vermintide already has a problem with player countit doesn't>new people try versus and get eviscerated by teams of austists who dropped hundreds of hours during the betasthis is a moronic claim, the newbs get obliterated because they don't even know how their tools workthey should play the normal game first before entering a spinoff game modeliterally every game there are "people" who do not even pick up the starter potions and bombs despite me pinging them
>>502270061not your personal army, do it yourself
>>502322497it's not a moronic claim, it's common sense. People gravitate towards new content.Your argument is basically>it's not because we're good, it's because you're badbut that's irrelevant. The end result is the same.
>>502318101>when the weapon switch doesnt go throughthis has blown me up countless times playing as psyker
>>502321772>>502322378Spending?
>>502324007i hope you're not the anon still doing weeklies
>>502323434pvp is not vermintide's main focusyou should play the main game first as a new playerliterally every match there are clueless level 1's blowing themselves up on sienna and dying to pink rats
>>502302871>perfectly goodit looks stupid even from the front
>>502322265Wait until you discover malice maelstrom.
>>502324387>pvp is not vermintide's main focusIt doesn't matter anon. Fatshark is advertising pvp, and it brings people in for pvp. If something is new and flashy people will gravitate towards it. This is a fact and you know it's a fact because you clearly see it. It's not a matter of opinion, it's just how people are. You can't expect people to act against their nature. Players are like animals in a lab. Or cattle on a farm.
>>502324149they're adding an ingame currency exchange with aquilas after the sanguinala patch, you'll be sorry then
>>502325709awesome! got a source for that?
>>502289442>Ranked matchmaking might be a thing once players earn their ranks.I have a feel it might already beI try to check every players' ranks to look for patterns, there was at least one game where both teams had one high ranked player and 3 unrankeds
>>502325614I don't care, they should stay out of my versus
>check auric>5 hunting grounds activecan they remove this shitty bloaty modifier when weaves 2 releases
I'm not sure the Versus achievements are awarding the correct amount of currency their icons say they do, unless its awarded before redeeming it at the book?
>>502327441Oh seems to have been a UI error, restarting fixed it
>>502311816You should be thankful the vermintide janny was able to push the entire game mode to prod by himself
>>502296940if only you would realize that you faggots are equally as annoying as waifufags are
>>502311816>>first and foremost, it's not fun to play heavily nerfed versions of the fucking U5, breakpoints are all over the place and pretty much everything from attack speed to crit got nerfed, it feels awful and not worth your timeyou're a retard if you don't understand why they had to be nerfed for a pvp game mode, handgun oneshot bodyshotting enemy players is not balanced, rats are still the underdogs despite the heavy nerfs>>the rat spawn system is still completely fucked, 2 meters and los are not enough to prevent the entire enemy team spawn behind a pillarpost proof of this>>you turn around and suddenly there is a packmaster or a flamerat pushing you a billion meters away because rat knockback is severely increasedskill issue, but I give you the benefit of also noticing audio sometimes not playing for specials>>btw the rats have no spawn sound effect like in l4d, the above scenario is worsened by the fact that specials are almost completely silent and will ALWAYS take you by surpriseassassin has it, other rats don't fucking need it>>dedicated servers suck, lag and latency issues everywhere to the point where you will get hooked from several meters away or jumped on while the gutter runner is still in the airthis works both ways, rat players suffer it too>>the U5 have no more knockback with their ultimates, if you see a hook rat zigzagging to you there is physically nothing you can do unless you have a ranged weapon with good breakpoints, aka you can kill them in one hit otherwise they will just shrug everything offpretty sure a handgun shot will stagger a hookrat, you will also catch up with it after its initial burst of speed, unless you're a retard that is getting slowed down by swinging your shield weapon1/2
>>502311816>>5023298942/2>>the opposite scenario plays as well, WS is still hilariously broken with heatseeking arrows that can nullify a good play with a single button, bardin is beyond broken and any cata player with good aim will snipe you as soon as you enter their fovWS ult only hits one enemy player, it can't hit more than thatby Bardin I assume you mean RV, yes the ranged careers are really strong in this game mode for a reason, Huntsman and BH as well>>some careers are extremely broken and unfun to go against, namely good zealots that will solo the entire mission and handmaidens with javelins that will go instantly invisible and nail you from afarcrying about zealot of all things just shows how new/bad you are, zealots gimmick is THP sustain, remove his sustain and he folds like anyone else, IB is much more annoying to take downcrying about javelins is also silly, it's a projectile weapon, just move around dumbass, and if you are in dash distance that's on you, there's only 2 rats out of 5 that need to be in close range to work>>rats have no talents and cannot even be tested in the keep before playing a match, their F ability is a megathrow as it gives the U5 free thptalents would be interesting but don't fit thematically, rats are disposable after all, testing in keep would be nice QoL especially for troll since you don't get to play him oftenF is good if it spawns chaos warriors and especially the shielded versions, they're literal roadblocks that let you close distance or get U5 cornered with gas puddlesif it spawns pink rats it's bad I agreepost your rank shitter
weird pairing
versus is gonna die because vermintide doesn't have many players and the gamemode filters them and will filter new players more and more.im a good player but carrying a bad team in versus is just harder than in campaign, if the enemy is competent. the only fun during the beta was when the opposing team had noticable shitters, people who would walk backwards to chase specials and such. if your team had these shitters, the game would become much harder; if your enemy knew how to exploit you being a player down, it would become frustraiting.having shitters ruining your lobbies is only gonna get worse and worse as players get better at versus. new players will enter the game and get destroyed and their better teammates will seethe at them. i doubt a ranking system will work with ~2k players, many of which will not be interested in the gamemode at all.
>>502331716they wanted to avoid Packmaster implications
I miss pre-nerf daemonhosts
I haven’t played Vermintide in well over a year, can someone give me the gist of Versus? Is it worth redownloading for or not?
>>502332210How’d they get nerfed? It’s been awhile, but I’ve noticed they only take one person now. I could’ve sworn they used to take two
>>502332210what did they nerf
>>502332281Its like L4D versus. With the same exact issues.So its utter dogshit and frankly its incomprehensible why someone would play it.
>>502332281>I haven’t played Vermintide in well over a year>Is it worth redownloading for or not?Well if you haven't played in well over a year then you're probably not capable of winning a single match of Versus against the 5k hour sweatlords in a party you'll be going up against, so no I would say it's not worth redownloading.
The waifu posting in OP will continue until further notice
>play stealth zealot>run up to 3 retards waiting to be rescued>press F>hold E>"wp man">"nice clutch"Starting to understand why the class attracts the people it attracts.
>>502318472Doesn't change the fact that people are FUCKING SHIT at vidya.
>>502332380Dinner Host did indeed take out two before fucking off in the past. They were also FUCKING everywhere in lights out.Think they had more HP too, but don't quote me on that.
>>502329894>>502330020holy fucking autism>rankpostingkill yourself immediately
>>502333387>gets outed as shitteryeah I could already tell from your noob opinions
>>502325939my dad works at warhammer
>>502333460ok brownie
>>502334191>noooo you are sweaty tryhard!!!!classic shitter cope
>>502329894>>502330020How to spot the l4d versus brazilian that never played cataclysm and bought the game for 1 dollar now that it's 90% off:
>>502332952now this is based
>>502330020>post your rank shitter....NTA but anon. You do know that rank means nothing and it's just your level in Versus, right?There is no MMR or anything similar, it's not a competitive gamemode.You do know this, right?
>>502318631The obscuras is a decent all around weapon for horde clear with heavy single target attacks and a good attack speed, not the strongest but reliable. The deimos acts more like a dueling sword and is good against big shit. The second heavy is a poke that will knock ogryns on their asses with a headshot so it's easy to make space. The deimos also takes care of specialists quick so you can proc soulblaze in mixed hordes if you need to switch to melee and will horde clear fine with some effort to dance.
>>502318631Wait you said dueling, I am tarded. Mark 4 dueling sword for the better moveset.
>/copeg/ already posting versus ranks and flaming each other over the mode
anyone want to play modded l4d2?
>>502330020>he wears that like a badge of honorTranner is that you?
>>502331875Honestly it's time for VT3 already. VT2 is old and won't get any more popular. New updates even if good don't generate as much hype. VT3 with Versus and Chaos Wastes already on release, DT style classes with big skill tree and stacking of them, new enemies like other chaosmanii variants even, obviously more indepth cosmetic system for milking purposes, better DT style gore, all weapons with special attack, their marks etc is needed. Just learn from vt2 and dt mistakes and make proper vt3 and then port all vt2 to it as well.
>>502331875The only real novelty of Versus is you get to play as the skaven.It should just have been a Skaven-mode minigame, or they should let you play against a bot team of heroes, that's the only way to make Versus work long term with the playerbase the size it is.
>>502331875>writing shitters 4 times in your post>>>/left4dead/
>>502335002Its a cooperative game though. Should there be a seperate thread for -tide games because they're no longer co-op?
>>502335154>VT3 with Versus and Chaos Wastes already on release, DT style classes with big skill tree and stacking of them
>>502335002that’s not a rat you ass
>>502335307>Should there be a seperate thread for -tide games because they're no longer co-op?Unironically yes but it will never happen.Darktiders are vicious cunts, they will just push ratclickers out for good and it will become the Darktide general once and for all.
>>502329894>>502330020>the l4d versusfag warnings weren't just shitpostslmao
What weapon has the best feel if I've already got a good melee weapon for dealing with close range heavies? Bolt pistol, autogun, or lasrifle?
>>502335745i find the revolver to just be the best ranged weapon most of the time, it lets you easily one-tap distant specials, as well as quickly get rid of multiple medium range specials. using a bolt pistol for a change feels like a nerf. lasrifles have a disgusting attack speed, autoguns are fine
>>502335632Oh I don't know, I used to really love Darktide, and still do, but now I think I prefer Vermintide.It does actually have more soul, as other anons used to say.
People still play L4D? Don’t get me wrong I’ll always love the games but they’re more than a little dated at this point and the Tides are pretty much just them but better
>>502336257more than both tides combined..
>>502336257>People still play L4D?a lot of people do. its still considered the gold standard of coop horde games as every single game since adds a bunch of bad gimmicks and player retention padding instead of making a simply fun game to pick up and play.
>>502336257tides are hard-sh to run and are big in filesizel4d is a source engine game that was given out fof free
I want a -tide game but in the style of Borderlands 2, with open zones connecting maps and a loose narrative, where the missions are just the quests in the whole thing. Set in Warhammer Fantasy obviously, or 40k but that'd be harder to make work.
>>502336236>It does actually have more soulI think VT having recognizable and defined characters that regularly banter with each other helps this sentiment a lot.
>>502336397>>502336409turd worlders don't count
>>502336472they gave out VT2 for free last year around holidaysits like $1.50 right now on steam
>>502336556Darktide has its banter too and personalities do arise from the 21 voices in it but I get what you mean, in Darktide its much more shallow since the characters are supposed to be individualised to the players.
>>502336586RIP tide numbers..
>>502336257thirdies love it, they managed to port the entire arsenal of hundreds of different first person shootersthere is no reason to play THOSE games when left 4 dead is free or cheap, runs on a toaster and has infinite replayabilityhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=282305342https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=848964105https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=841117737https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2635867761anyone that says the basegame is still good is a delusional turbotranny, the game has aged like fucking skimmed milk and the only reason to ever play it over any other horde shooter game is mods.
>>502336729basegame is okay.
>>502336941
>>502336941You made me chortle a little bit, fuck you.
>>502336729Payday 2 has also a ton of mods, but the naunces of the gameplay filter approximately half the players that approach the game for the first time.
>>502337283copclick is harder than all the other horde games combined, in particular the tide ones
>>502337448Only because you need good aim, the headshot multiplier is ridiculous unless you're a retard playing DW or DS.
>>502335745Depends on which weapon and build you're running. Assuming it's vet, if you're using a power sword, it craves a quick draw weapon like revolver, bolt pistol or shotty to go with it. If you're doing marksman's focus you always want an infantry autogun.If you're using a knife or dsword, anything goes just have fun.
>>502335632darktiders and ratters are one of the same
pre versus>versus will be bad because the u5 can oneshot every special!post versus>versus is bad because my breakpoints changed!never change retardios. stick to pve games
Do you just buy poses with your VSbux, rattos?
>wah versus is not perfect!There is a reason why fatshark is testing it on a dead game before releasing in darktide
Is there anyone here who, like myself, likes and enjoys both games and sees the merit in both?
>>502340435Nope
>>502340435Yeah but those people hardly get involved in endless shitflinging about which one is bettersometimes i mention that i like an aspect of VT2 better than DT or vice versa and it sets off some sperg and he goes on a rampage
>>502340435I see the merit in the core of Darktide, it just doesn't have anywhere near enough content to be worth playing
>discarding items has no filter for favoritesbravo
hardest penance in the game?
>>502341259The smite one.
>>502341259my penance is hard
>>502341076It doesn't select favorites, that's the point of it
>>502340435I’m just happy to be getting more Warhammer games (both Fantasy and 40k) that aren’t just real time strategy slop man. For the all the criticism you can levy at FatShark, they’ve made two of the most memorable games the IP has ever put out. They aren’t perfect, yes, but who knows, maybe their decent levels of popularity will catch the eye of a developer with significantly more resources than them and we’ll finally get Darktide/Vermintide-esque game that launches in an acceptable state with all the appropriate content and regular QOL updates
>>502340435I agree with you but I also think it's disappointing beyond words how many things fatshark forgot going from vermintide 2 to darktide, and how anyone ever came up with the retarded idea of making us rejects to go along with the build-a-bear character creation
>hunting grounds
>>502341886The character creation being like this would work great if it were more like an MMO and had social hubs, and if they planned to sell character skins like hair, tattoo and eye packs (which almost seems like it may have been the case considering there are some unique hairstyles and tattoos for owning ratclick).
>>502341886You would seriously prefer letting some libtards make up some OC characters for us to play? Nah this ain't it, chief
>>502341076>click on item i wish to discard>click "discard">get launched into a separate menu and have to find the specific item againthanks fatshark
>>502341886Swear its the same thing that happened to destiny 2, the teams responsible for stuff in D1 and the teams working on different parts of D2 weren't in the same building and didn't communicate. Led to things like bugs getting fixed in D1 but the same ones not fixed in D2, mechanics between game modes clashing and causing bugs (that don't get fixed for a year+), etc. Its a shame, the movement and gunplay in D2 is great, just wish there was more than pvp to keep it fresh.
>+15% toughness>15% toughness>check melk>A WHOLE ASS SIXTEEN TOUGHNESSI have more +3 stamina trinkets across all classes than I do toughness trinkets that go above 16. Why the fuck does it feel like toughness is so fucking rare?
>>502342986Wait till you need a 21% health...
>>502342986smol indee studeeo pls unnerstan
>played the preorder beta>got a refund before the game came out because they went 180 on a bunch of things like aquillas being earnable >buy game again through humble bundle for $10 >still have all the preorder, beta and imperium edition cosmetics anywayOutskilled
>>502341739it shouldn't list favorites in the first place RETARD
>>502344595>it should hide info from me retardit's better this way so you can see what you're keeping
>>502295478lol fag
I done masteries on shield, pickaxe, kickback and rumbler. Everything is around 6 or 7 due to weapons I got from missions and sacrificed for mastery.What are some other decent weapons I can play around with ogryn to get mastery the legit playing way and get a feel for them and what not? I'm doing melee ogryn.
>>502342878No, I wouldn't and I realize that it may have been a blessing in disguise, but it still sucks. To go every single character in vermintide, hell even the rats and rotbloods toMUH CADIAMUH SIBLINGMUH TRAINMUH SNIVELERMUH DUP DA DIDDA PO IM DA PILOT AND I STINKetc ad nauseum is like seeing some 14 year old redditor write a direct fanfic parody of "what if le vermintide was in 40KAY and epicer!!"
Which of these seem more impressive?
>>502345261krouk mk iv knife. great horde clear, technically acceptable at armour, and is the only ogryn weapon that gets to use its entire moveset.mk V ripper. The ideal sidearm for ogryn. Hipfire always does at least 70% of its damage due to its minimum pellet count, making it decent at special killing and can kill multiple specials before reloading. Grenade Gauntlet, Pinpoint targeting, Flak/Maniac it can headshot on the fly or bodyshot gunners/specials after getting stacks of Pinpoint. Terrible at extra long range because the grenade will explode after a fixed distance.
>>502345691To go from*Also the technical side of darktide is another disappointment. It's a newer title and I understand that it's more demanding but I can summon over eighty slaverats in vt2 and lose 14 fps, but it only takes me eight enemies in darktide for the same fps loss.
>>502346092>but it only takes me eight enemies in darktide for the same fps loss.max out your FoV, with low FoV the game loads in certain very close LOD models when meleeing enemies yes, I am aware of how retarded this sounds
>>502345261Folding shovel and Club. Both are very good options.Use RipperV to hipfire snipers from 60 meters away.
>>502345261Folding shovel is great for horde clear heavies and the special shits on armor and tougher targets.
>>502346091>krouk mk iv knife>6 crushers appearthis thing SUCKS
>>502345021yes why would the menu where you get rid of items list the items you have specifically selected not to get rid of? kill yourself swede fuck
>>502345261After using the mkIV krouk knife I can never go back to playing other weapons, you actually use every single attack, and have combos that are something other than heavy cancel spam. It's easily ogryns most engaging and possibly the only fun weapon he has comparatively. Heavy poke poke for single target damage and armor.For horde clear you have a two options, you can push attack for a wide sweeping attack, and follow it up with a heavy and then chain a light into another heavy, or you can keep resetting the chain with pushattack, light, heavy, light, push attack and a light. The general rule of thumb is any attack that ends in a sweep, your heavy will also be a sweep. Any poke attack or neutral start will be followed up with your overhead. The special uppercut also has some really decent stagger power, don't underestimate its ability to save you from some ragers.The shit shovel is also a really strong all around weapon in the same way, it's not as nimble as the knife but it has a lot more stagger power and carapace damage.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/422/?tab=descriptionwatch jewshark torpedo this mod
>>502346970because you might want to see how the things you are discarding compare? retard
https://youtu.be/rr9AXmlg6hMhttps://youtu.be/rr9AXmlg6hMhttps://youtu.be/rr9AXmlg6hMhttps://youtu.be/rr9AXmlg6hMSMOKEFAGS OUT
>>502347419that thing will age like vinegar
>>502347419tylerstacies can't stop winning, we're on a fucking roll lately
>>502347342YOU ALREADY DID THAT BEFORE YOU OPENED THE MENU TO DISCARD SHIT YOU STUPID FUCK
>>502347676>why would you wanna do it in one menu when you could do it in two different menus? never design UIs
>>502347419He hates smokes since his dad left home for some.
>>502347781you are so colossally stupid I have decided you must be deliberately be trolling because nobody can be this stupid
>>502347907>can't refute the pointthought so
>>502346091>krourk and ripperYou'll grow out of this phase
>>502347419>Smoke is useful if you stand in it or behind it>But I don't want to stand in it or behind it>Therefore its terrible.Reminder that Smoke is great, and only the worst players think its bad
>>502347906
>>502347419Smoke is complete trash and is of no benefit to a good player
>>502347419>"tests" smokes ability to stop targeting by spawning shit INSIDE the smoke>in a tiny ass area like the psykanium>where maps are significantly larger corridors where almost all of the damage you receive is gunner chip>literally will not spawn specials outside of the fucking smoke and then goes on to say that smokes don't stop their targetingI can't even finish the video to tell if he mentions just how hard it breaks the AI and it would be a suitable use case for funneling the 50 billion enemies that love to stand across an entire fucking bridge pelting to to just waltz up to you with their gun down so you can freely slap them every 60 seconds. Mainly because I cannot stand listening to this fat autistic trannies voice. Jesus christ, does he ham up his voice or something?
>>502348442Tanner is a total addled retard who doesn't understand anything he's talking about. He constantly does this shit. I watched one other video of his and it was him trying to disprove that rending is good by using a plasma gun on gunners. It oneshots them either way, see? Rending is bad!!
How do you even dodge hook rats in versus?
>>502348703>how do I dodge another player? I don't expect you to understand how much joy this post gives me. Did you ever play a pvp game before? Or like, play sports once in your life or something?
>>502348442>>where maps are significantly larger corridors where almost all of the damage you receive is gunner chipThis should not be happening at all
>>502348442you know the pic with the gigantic head saying "I trained at the psykanium"? it's basically him
>>502347907But you're the one that sold the weapon without paying attention. Take some personal accountability for once in your life.
>>502348587Rending strikes *is* shit though. That being true isn't mutually exclusive with tranner being a bumbling retard.
>>502349085what the fuck are you talking about you stupid fucking retard? learn to read
>>502348843Ideally? No.Does it? Yes.
Seems the only melee I'm not hearing good things about is the electric dildo. >>502346859>>502346752I have a perfect roll shovel. Which mark is the good one?
>>502349104You are as retarded as tanner if you think there is genuinely no usecase for 10% global rending
>>502349169It should be very rare, not so common that you need to sacrifice your better blitzes for smoke grenades
>>502347508>that thing will age like vinegarbut vinegar is aged.....
>>502338510Zealot with a heavy blade trying to stop using the heavy eviscerator, since my other weapon was a fucking full bolter making me the clunkiest teammate before I realized something was seriously wrong
>>502348587The problem is that he only measures things against what he thinks are the best meta builds ever. So if a weapon benefits from rending but isn't meta, he doesn't consider it useful.
>>502349085he didn't sell it, he just thought he could. He just saw it in the menu, didn't realize it's blocked from being sold, and now he's coping about how it never should've shown in the first place because he is perfect and can literally never make a mistake in his life and now has to make 20 posts arguing about why actually the UI should hide items from him
>>502349524oh look another illiterate stupid fucking retard
Someone redpill me on gun psykers pls? At that point why wouldn't you just play zealot or even vet? What's the advantage?
>>502348821But it's literally impossible. The dodge action doesn't make you immune to the hook. You're obviously going to move slower than the guy can point it in your direction.
>>502349751The advantage is the fun you get
>>502349751>redpill me on gun psykera completely useless meme, you do nothing that a veteran doesn't do 5 times better
>>502349256>Which mark is the good one?the one you prefer. They are all auric ready
>>502349281>2.5% extra damage for flak/unyielding/maniac>about 15% more damage on carapaceThere's no "usecase" for this, if your weapon has shit carapace damage or relies on DoTs you take onslaught, and the only weapon that both has uncanny strike and doesn't benefit more from riposte precognition is the shovels because they don't have the latter blessings in the first place.
>>502349751The advantage is the sick satisfaction that they get from being a burden to their team
DEATH TRAIN
>>502349751>At that point why wouldn't you just play zealot or even vet?you can move super fast while doing tons of damage, like a zealot-vet hybrid + spells>What's the advantage?be speedhave funcast sick wizard spells
>>502350087You just proved you dont know how rending works10% armor pen has vastly different effects on a weapon that hits 95% reduced damage on armor vs a weapon that hits 5% reduced damage on armorits not a unified thing - it varies from wep to wep and from attack to attack. 10% rending is massive for recon las with infernus for example. Does like 8x damage on armor. Please dont try to discuss rending without understanding the mechanics behind it
>>502350087Sorry to tell you, but you just got owned >>502350620
>>502350620>dont try to discuss rending without understanding the mechanics behind itplease do discuss it. Most people don't know how it works. Sharing (knowledge) is caring.
>>502350620You fucking retard, going from 4 to 8 damage isn't good when onslaught exists and crushers have 3600 health. I literally just told you onslaught is a much better point to take than rending strikes if you've got shit carapace damage. You even picked the one fucking weapon that onslaught is amazing on.
>>502349104>>502349281The use case is whether or not the node helps you reach breakpoints. That's it.It can be a mandatory talent, or it can be a wasted talent, depending on your weapons and build.
>bro, if you want rending then just spend 10 points and get onslaughtDo retards really?
>>502351182>rending is shit if you just use a completely different build brodon't try to squirm your way out of it, maggot
>>502349658its ok, 52% of americans read at below a 5th grade level anyway so you're in good company.
>>502351182>going to 8 damagecome on, use a recon las without rending then use it with rending + focus target. Lets see how it makes "no difference"
>>502349406Heavy Sword isn't good at all for dealing with heavy dudes up close, its carapace damage is kind of shit.You should run bolter, bolt pistol, revolver or brittleness flamer with it so you can wipe out crushers fast. Best pick in my opinion is to run a bolter with a couple gun talents for damage. If you find Eviscerator movement too slow though, you're not gonna have a much better time with Hsword. And personally I don't find it too immobile at all, just throw knives at all your problems.
>>502352153I get the feeling those are “Americans” and not Americans
>>502349524So, the mechanic is working as intended? And why exactly is Xir malding over it?
>>502350087You can hit the crusher oneshot breakpoint with rending strikes on vet using a bolter. How is that "not a usecase"?
>>502350620>>502351182Hell, if we're going by reconlas metrics, and you always take onslaught for crushers, bring it down is not only going to give you much better crusher damage than rending strikes but it will also buff unyielding damage. And rending strikes isn't going to make DoTs significantly better on anything else.Infernus is also worse than deathspitter, everything else dies too fast and its boss DPS is pitiful.>>502352110>I want to use recons to kill crushers but I don't want to take onslaught>>502352182I just tested it and it was much worse than onslaught. I even went down to take both and it was still better to take bring it down.
>>502352609you realize brittleness is just local rending and tanner says thats bad too, right?
revert dueling sword giveaway
>>502350584Okay but let's look at it from another perspective. Does it have such a huge advantage over using traditional staff builds? Because if you're going guns, in a way you'd be denying your team the utilities from staff, so how do you justify that?
>>502352609You just tried to claim that "rending is 15% carapace damage" and never acknowledged how retarded and wrong that is. I'm guessing you're just lying about any tests you supposedly run. Not that onslaught isnt good on recon las, rending strikes is just also good
who's this tanner character and why do you lot keep fellating him
>>502311816Nah, versus turned out very good>it's not fun to play heavily nerfedThis has nothing do with Skaven being more interesting. They are a novelty, meanwhile everyone already played as U5 for hundreds or thousands of hours. U5 being nerfed and Versus having separate balance was the best thing they could do actually. It's refreshing to have different weapons and builds viable finally and power creep being dealt with>the rat spawn system is still completely fucked, 2 meters and los are not enough to prevent the entire enemy team spawn behind a pillarWorks on my machine>flamerat pushing you a billion meters away because rat knockback is severely increasedFlamerats were unusably bad originally, they had to be buffed>btw the rats have no spawn sound effect like in l4d, the above scenario is worsened by the fact that specials are almost completely silent and will ALWAYS take you by surpriseSkill issue, I somehow hear them>dedicated servers suck, lag and latency issues everywhere to the point where you will get hooked from several meters away or jumped on while the gutter runner is still in the airNever happened to meRats could use a training area, some classes are slightly better, but nothing outrageous.All other of your complaints are blatantly incorrect.>>502342878This is already the case, but half assed. Only voices matter and they already have premade personalities and backstories. Nigger Enforcer remains nigger Enforcer no matter what, but he simply can't address another teammate by his name or recall their former missions.>>502348703You can't. At best HE can miss if you are really close to him and basically clip through him. Veteran VT players keep getting baited by this. Preferably shoot or stagger him. Pinging him so your teammates can see him is good idea as well obviously.>>502349751It's the most patrician of all playstyles. The ultimate glass cannon with the highest skill ceiling in game.
there's a reason it's called gunker because they're exactly that: gunk. like the one that sticks to your shoes when you step on dog shit
>>502353305>This is already the case, but half assed. Only voices matter and they already have premade personalities and backstories. Nigger Enforcer remains nigger Enforcer no matter what, but he simply can't address another teammate by his name or recall their former missions.No, I can actually make a non-nigger psyker, non female hardass vet, and non asian female zealot. Cant say the same about the original tertium 4, if those were our set in stone characters.
>>502352245holy shit flamer has a brittleness perk? I've not used any guns other than whatever power is higher in my climb to 30 and dealing with big boys by making them crumble sounds fantastic. I'll probably try to find a high power flamer later, since my friends are usually gun ogryn/veteran to deal with far targets
>>502353249Here I am wondering the same
>>502353249he's an obnoxious overt faggot youtuber who makes being annoying and wrong his shtick, sorta like nikocado avocadoThere's 2-3 actual homosexuals on /coopg/ and their whole existence revolves around poopdick so obviously they have to keep posting all gay stuff they find here
>>502353725You wouldn't get mere 4 characters because the point was to allow for class stacking to begin with. And they overkilled it with customization for no reason. You would get premade 4 Vets, 4 Zealots, 4 Ogryns and 4 Psykers. Same thing they should do in VT3.
>>502354119You sound mad.
>>502353017depends on the team
>>502354164>we would get literally 4x the effort the VT2 characters tookI wish but stay realistic
>>502354216Yes I am mad I keep having to see that disgusting faggot shit, I'm a hotblooded american and I feel emotions
>>502354662u mad lol
>>502354119There is more than 3 people /here/?
>>502353249>why do you lot keep fellating himYou are a dishonest or clueless retard
>>502354164How would that be different from what we get now? Isnt the main issue that we have 21 different voices, so all the dialogue has to be chaos wastes type "generic topic" stuff because you can fill a game with completely different characters? As opposed to VT2 where every team has all but one character in it, and even in the other characters absence they mention him a lot
>>502221778
>>502355132You got something to say?
>l4d versus thirdies are here already pretending to be experts of the game
>>502354374That would be LESS effort than currently and turn out better. They wrote 3 characters per Archetype for Darktide and hired 6 VAs per said Archetype, because for utterly inane reasons they decided that it is a good idea for female VAs to then re-record all those SAME voicelines male VAs already recorded. If they didn't bother with customization they could not bother with those 9 additional femoid VAs and make 4th actual character per Archetype instead and it would actually be easier and cheaper to do. And then easier to then introduce new Archetypes. That's not to mention if they cut all that other retarded shit like bulk of voicelines only triggering on lower levels, which are completely wasted because only dedicated players can appreciate effort like this, but they are all stuck with max level characters. Or that dumb Warband style backstory selection.
>+9 stamina from curios>+56% block efficiency>kinetic deflection>still can't block a single crusher overheadexcuse me what the Fuck!
>>502354981this, we keep buttfucking him, not fellating him
>>502355008Writing isn't the bottleneck, VAs are. It's why all those CRPGs can afford to vomit walls of text, but not record them. Text costs nothing. Cutting out VAs for the sake of more characters is a no-brainer. Cutting out backstory customization and customized names would allow them to create actual relations between characters. Cutting out character level specific dialogue would allow them to write more of an actual dialogue that can be heard by most of playerbase.
>>502355680yeah I guess not having male/female would cut it down to size a bitWhats funny is that our characters DO have backstories. Some zealots talk about how they ended up in prison. And yes, they do this despite you, the player, picking a reason. That just gets ignored
>>502356059Huh. Almost as if it's a shitty build
>>502356286Savant psykers are very clearly enforcers from Tertium hive. They have familarity with throneside, the torrent, the water cartel etc.
>>502356352It's not a build, it's a test. and the game failed
>>502356286>Whats funny is that our characters DO have backstories. Some zealots talk about how they ended up in prison. And yes, they do this despite you, the player, picking a reason. That just gets ignoredI think they just gave up on this after some time. Which is why now we are stuck in this half assed state. Just like happened to many other features in this game.
>>502356661I remember when people insisted the backstories you pick on character creation matter. Turns out it was just a quick excuse for why the characters are all barely more than prototypes
>>502349751It's fun and surprisingly potent for what it is, a glass cannon.You need to be good at not instantly fucking dying though since its a hell of a lot easier to do that even with the sheer damage reduction scriers and related nodes give without an instant safety net like zealot and vet have. Its a meme build that borders on the line of being really good, but still just just remains a really good meme.
>>502356059you did not take empyreal resolve thoughever(synergizes very well with kinetic deflection)so there's a chance you can still make it work
>>502347419Smokes suck but I'm not going to listen to his complete shit takes and annoying voice.
>>502357691smokes are good they just require one layer of abstract thinking to use effectively. For most people thats one layer too many, especially in a hectic game like this.
>60 mobility maul somehow turns into 80 mobility and 60 crowd control after empowering>sold every other maul (to empower) and broke
>>502357996Unfortunately, 99,9% of you people bringing smokes go all Ralph Wiggum I'M HELPING! with them.
>>502349293Never really saw a reason to take kraks other than skill tree convenience, shredders are useful and so are smokes, kraks are just garbage.
>>502358130Because of the monster damage and it's ability to remove bulwarks and multiple. I just power sword hordes and shoot down ragers. Shredder grenades have never been useful to me
just had a psyker use the med station 4 times trying to cure book corruption
>>502349751my psyker with assail, scrier's gaze, disrupt destiny, heavy laspistol and deimos force sword very often gets many yellow numbers
>>502358495The only yellow you get is the stain in your underwear
>>502349751You get to suck up ammo and do less damage that you could have done with a staff. Perfect for people past level 30 who still blow themselves up with peril.
brain burst is honestly useless, why would you ever bother taking it
>>502357996>smokes are good the-Opinion fucking discarded. Have a nice day.
>>502358673Anything that can quickly kill specialists at range is good.
>>502358812can do that with revolver or staffs easily with less charge time and peril
>>502358641Heh, I'm running Crystalline Will too, jokes on you noob LMFAO
>>502358106It seems my tzeench worship has had some effect :^)
so i dont understand how the progression works with curiosi cant empower them like weapons, and even melk's curious arent sold at 500can any anons give a shitter a QRD?
>>502359051i might just be stupid and upgraded the wrong one, but brunt loves me and gave 60 mobility next roll so it's okay.
>>502358893how do you hit very far away specialists with fire staff retard
>>502358106Crowd control doesn't give you attack speed on the shock maul so it's the actual dump stat. Cleave damage distribution doesn't actually affect cleave damage dropoff, it only lets you hit more poxwalkers at the end for single digit damage.
>>502359151Fish for a max main stat curio.Everything else can be changed later.
>>502359703>only lets you hit more poxwalkers at the end for single digit damage.Which at least applies bleed
>>502359909Bleed has shit damage until you hit at least 8+ stacks though, and you'll kill the things by attacking normally before serrated blade or scourge ever reach that amount on even one groaner. 60 CC vs 80 only gives you enough hit mass cap for a single extra groaner by the way.
>>502358742You're really just admitting you're too bad to make use of them
>>502359703Never listen to people who say mobility shouldn't be dumped. The actual real difference you get from 60 -> 80 mobility is 2% sprint speed. You also get a literal milimeter of dodge distance. I'm not exaggerating, pic related is the dodge distance difference between 60 dodge distance and 80 dodge distance stat. Literally any, ANY other stat benefits you more than this.
>>502360234Just like how most toonktards just aren't toonking hard enough
>>502360536>preventing elite running attacks>preventing dogs from jumping>preventing flamers from flaming>preventing shooters from targetting>all while you're able to actively and safely kill them back after you threw the smoke>somehow comparable to some retard afking with the shield upnice try
>>502356286>Some zealots talk about how they ended up in prisonFanatic: burned some innocent people alive, mistakenly, unless?Agitator: got caught up in some sort of corruption scheme after mingling with lesser noblesJudge: ???
>>502360817>Judge: ???Hes black.
>>502360731>blinding everyone and delaying enemies by 1 second instead of just killing the enemies while also having access to grenades that are actually usefulThere is a reason why nobody picks smoke grenades except retarded contrarians
What insults does the ogryn say to get all the chaos dweebs taunted?
>>502361079Momma doesnt like swearing.
>>502357996>>502358120Smoke 'nades remind me of the SOTT thorn walls in ratclick. 99% of players are too retarded to use them properly but once in a blue moon you see someone who knows how to make it work wonders.
>>502361194Then paraphrase what you think he would say.
>>502361019>delaying enemies by 1 second nice try but smokes last for 15 seconds, 30 with talents, and are arguably not anymore visually disruptive than a psyker bubble. They're basically a psyker bubble with slightly different usecases on the grenade bar for veteran
>>502358412Not healing corruption, just depriving you of your med station :)
>>502361079>SMOKE GRENADES ARE BAD
>>502361253Whos parapraise? D
>>502361079None because the game is soulless. Bardin actually insulted his enemies, the ogryn just says an epic marvel one liner like >GET BEHIND ME LITTLE ONES! and then for some reason the enemies are taunted. That is, if the voiceline even plays. 70% of the time it doesn't
>>502361310>nice try but smokes last for 15 secondsBut it doesn't delay individual enemies by 15 seconds each. Dumbass smoketard
>>502360513>says mobility is useless>posts a pic comparing the difference on a shield>shield doesn't have a mobility stat
>>502359151curios have blessings and perks. blessings can't change, perks change to whatever you want. Find curios with highest blessing boost possible>stamina+3, uncommon. >toughness+17%, RARE >hp+21%, RARE >wound+1, common. that's it. curios have a ranking and that just influences the tier of perks they would have once you upgrade them, but now since we can change perks as many times as we want, that number is pointless.
>>502361318>merely pretending to be retarded
>>502361516Defense is the alternate replacement stat for mobility, and the pic is about dodge distance, which mobility and defence shareTo be entirely fair though, if you use a non shield, you may get an additional milimeter of dodge distance.
>>502361625>woundi thought wounds were the noob trap perk except for zealots with a specific build?
>>502361465The taunts in ratclick really make the game, hearing the characters go>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RAT NIGGERS I'M GONNA PUT A GOD DAMN BULLET IN YOUR DICK AND THEN LIGHT YOU ON FIREas you slaughter them by the hundreds is so satisfying
>>502361820and I thought people read and comprehend a post before replying
>>502361924DAYUM BOY OH SNAP AW LAWDY LAWDY
man this crafting upgrading rework in darktide is so confusing nowi dont even know what i'm doing anymore, i dont even know what items in the shop are even worth buying now, what is this shit
>>502361768People get mobility because of the sprint efficiency and speed. The later can be debunked by some math, then you're left with the former which would be the only real advantage of having mobility. At that point it becomes a choice of sprinting for a bit longer or whatever else you're considering dumping for it and whatever that may be, it's most likely gonna be a lot more useful.That image just doesn't convey that and it's about defence, not mobility, even if they're lumped together on some weapons.
>>502362378The max stat is shown.You look for something thats full 80s with the right 60 dumpstat.Everything else is unlocked leveling mastery.Easy as.
>>502362519I literally posted the image in context nigger. My post has words in it too. Kill yourself, pseud
When do I get my force greatsword? Or I dunno another staff? Anything? Hello?
>>502361820I'm just listing all the curios blessings available in the game. Wound only comes in +1, so it's really easy to build because you'll find them practically everyday in the shop (If you were building them, not that I'd recommend wounds unless you're using Martyrdom). The max blessing toughness and hp curios are a bitch to find. You'll have to settle for 15-16% toughness and 18-20% hp until then. It's not a huge deal though.
>>502362519> then you're left with the former which would be the only real advantage of having mobility. At that point it becomes a choice of sprinting for a bit longer or whatever else you're considering dumping for it and whatever that may be, it's most likely gonna be a lot more useful.Interesting theory. When you wrote this, were you aware that the shock maul mobility stat does not affect sprint efficiency?
>>502362519>People get mobility because of the sprint efficiency and speed.Mobility does not give sprint efficiencywhat convinces retarded faggots like you to post
Jeez the thread was going really slow what’s up with the burst in activity
>>502363934Tide games are alive :)
>>502361924buddy you cant drop the big own on me if i dont know what the own isim not trying to be difficult, i genuinely dont understand what you mean.
>>502347419>that reddit post triggered Tranner so hard he made a video about it
>>502363991read the fucking post again you brainfogged retard
>>502361820wounds are a noob trap still, yes, unless that specific zealot build, the anon you were responding to was just speculating on the rarity of curios at the vendor.There's no actual information anywhere on curio rankings and he probably pulled it out of his ass, but anecdotal evidence suggests there may be some truth to it.
>>502359234obviously i didnt mean the fire staff you dumb fag. i accept your concession
>>502358893no, you can't
is martyrdom zealot actually viable? it always struck me as the worst keystone by far, not least because you have to give up 3x 15-20% health increase curios to stack wounds
>>502363330GIVE US THE BOLT STAFF IN DARKTIDE(no, voidstrike isn't it, we need a staff with full-auto primary fire)
>>502365356>still using health curiosBAKA
>>502365128in what situation can you kill a special faster with BB than with a revolver?
>>502365559they didn't even bother to give each staff a unique primary fire you're not getting shit
Is j_sat still the most powerful ratclick player these days?
>>502364325I didn't "rank them", those are all the possible curios in the game, because he was asking about how they work. There's no information on the RARITY of the blessing drop rates, those are just anecdotal from my thousand hours of playing and finding sets for all of them. Logically though, it makes sense. There's only 1 type of wound curios, +1 wound, so if a wound curios will be in the shop, of course that's the one you'll find. Stamina only has 3 types, +1, +2, or +3, and +1's don't drop once you get high enough level, so that means if a stamina curios is in the shop it'll roll between a +2 and +3. And that's probably why a max blessing toughness and hp curios are the hardest to find, there's more variance on the roll even when you're level 30 (I've seen 15% hp even at level 30, so you're rolling between 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 21 when one shows up).
>>502365751THEY SHOULD GIVE US A STAFF THAT HAS FULL AUTO PRIMARY FIRE AND THE SECONDARY ATTACK IS A SHORT RANGE SHOTGUN BLAST
>>502365727none, but it kills specialists faster and more reliably from range than any staffthe better question is why are you playing a gun psyker?
>>502365897hmm maybe in another two years! (it will have the same primary fire as the rest of them)
Share your Hammer and Crusher builds fellow zealots. I love me some good BONK!
>>502366463hard to imagine the game will receive updates then
>>502363991You're in a general where almost everyone has that Redditor mentality where they're constantly on the lookout for someone to "own", except here they can say nigger.
>>502367183You sound pretty familiar with reddit so why don't you stay there, you nigger?
>>502368023oooooh owned him, have my upvote
>>502368023fucking showed that redditor
>>502365816>>502364325thanks for nothing shitheads, nobody answered my question still
>>502368286Not em, and neither a zealot main, but having a third wound is okay in my honest opinion. You dont always reach for healing after getting downed once.More than that, unless you use martydom, is kinda counterproductive.
Stability is dump stat for Ogryn stubber, right?
Zealot's Purging Flames penance is broken, isn't it? I've burned hundreds of hordes with these grenades and I'm still only at 78/2000.
>>502369227Third wound is for ogryns and pussies.
>>502369984You can reasonably dump collateral too it's mostly preference
>>502370391Needs to die of the nade ticks, not you or others slashing or shooting at them. Working exactly as intended.
>>502370391>>502370563I was wondering the same thing but assumed as much. Thanks for confirming my suspicions
>>502369984I prefer dumping collateral, but I like actually hitting the stuff I'm aiming at.You do you.
>>502371249Just go against the zealot natural instinct of going in solo in the front and lob the odd nade at back hordes and it's something you don't even bother monitoring. Just comes natural.
>all those siennas blowing themselves up>people can't handle recruit? tier hordesIt's funny at this point. I don't know how matchmaking works inb4 it doesn't but imo it should take into consideration steam hours/character lvl in addition to Versus lvl. Enemy team had noobs who clearly played Versus for first and second time. Meanwhile I was put into one team with that Krubs, that's fucking sadistic.
I hate to say this but... It feels like I like rashad more than chaxe
>>502370414Ogryn is based and third wound is niceYou should learn from that, shouty
>>502364294well im certainly not going to now anon.
>>502373042
>>502373292I play mostly ogryn and I wish I could get rid of the third wound. I want better med stimms
>>502373424Thats dumb
>>502373598what about that is dumb? my average times downed per mission is 0, it's fucking ogryn. But getting more healing out of a med stimm would be actual tangible benefit
>>502373738if you're not going downed then it's a nonissuethe fact you made it an issue means you're full of shit and going down
>>502373867I never said I'm not taking damage, I could pass on more health stations for my teamactual tangible benefit vs absolutely no benefit
>>502373974if you're not going downed then you're not failing missions ever, another nonissue if you weren't full of shit
>>502373225The rashad is S tierChaxe is A tier
>>502374102>what is hyperboleI have failed missions before but I'll tell you it's never because I get knocked down twice and die. If I go down I am 99% of the time (no hyperbole this time) the last man standing anyway so wounds dont benefit me. Better med stimms would help for obvious reasons
>>502373225Yeah the chaxe sucks.
>>502373867>>502374102It means that when he goes down there isn't anyone there to rescue him anyway
Brutal Momentum was a mistake
>>502374727>>502374850sounds like you both need to get good, bottom line
>>502374880>let's make a mandatory blessing that the weapon sucks dick withoutwhy do they balance it this way
>>502374969Save it. He is obviously better than you judging by his game knowledge
>>502374102>if you're not going downed then you're not failing missions ever,averages can be rounded down
>>502374880>>502374971I don't mind, as long as the end result is a good weapon
>>502375573Eh I like trying different blessings. But if your weapon has headtaker + brutal momentum and only hits 1 target by default it's kind of fucking clear that the other blessings might aswell not exist. It hurts variety
>>502375453>>502375569>i'm so good at this game i sure do wish they would make it easier for me so that way i can fail missions less oftenlol?
>>502374810You fucking take that back
>>502375943It's clunky and looks silly.
>>502375759>this thing that is supposed to be beneficial is actually detrimentalI just explained it to you. If you still don't understand it after this post then you are hopelessly retarded
>>502376236and i explained how it's a nonissue unless you suck ass enough to cry about it, which you are!
>>502375759>people discussing the benefits of stats>heh you want stats to benefit you? I thought you think the game is easy?You are reaching for a gotcha so hard its downright embarrassing, what got you so flustered?
>>502376354i'm getting double the replies than the posts i'm putting out, so IF i'm motivated by the way you assume, i'm winning. IF i'm not, i'm still winning because you shitters are getting assmad because you know you suck.
>>502376305Nobody cried about shit, someone said 3 wounds is good and I said if I could I would take a -1 wound talent/curio on Ogrynthe only person interpreting this weird shit into it is you. Fucking insecure weirdo for real
>>502373292I am an Ogryn main and the only reason Ogryn gets a pass is because they come with the extra wound.
>>502376472>I was just trollingah, the usual.
>>502376501>nobody criedyet here you are...
I stack max health, +3 stamina, 3x 30% Toughness regen on all my chars.If you dont, you are a shitter, there is no need for discussion.
>>502376305You failed to argue against the fact that it's a detriment to anyone except shitters like you who desperately need that extra wound so your team can keep picking you up. Take the L, you are in over your head
>>502332281Discount l4d2 but super laggy (200ping) because no players
>>502376772i dont go down, so it's a nonissue for me, as explained earlier, which you've somehow missed multiple times because you're retarded
>>502376681I havent had to post this in a while, butwoman coded post
>>502376934finally, i'm valid...
>>502376772He got asshurt at being told that good players dont go down repeatedly, so he's now trying to take the absurd stance that a real good player would never want healing. Just the usual shitter tantrum, he's trying to flip what bruised his ego onto others.
>>502376934t. Woman
This guy was aggressively arguing in favor of picking extra wounds much like this guy here. Don't be fooled by his self-assuredness, he's a complete shittter
>>502377110>alright bro let's shift to jerking eachother off, that'll show himmaybe kiss too, lol
>>502377227I mean you literally (other than martydom) only get benefit from wounds if someone else is picking your ass up repeatedly, so it should be no surprise to anyone that shitters argue in favor of it
>>502376889How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast?
>>502377227>If I cant see them, they cant shoot me.
>>502377397indifferent, because i just had lunch
>>502377314The fact that everyone can tell you are a retard really upsets you>>502377463Are you so stupid that you answer hypothetical questions?
>>502377362It's not a benefit because you sacrifice either toughness or health for those wounds, meaning you go down even faster.I see extra wounds in a pug, I know I'm going to have a bad time. Even with martyr zealots most the time.
>>502377463damn that's actually a great answer.
>>502377576>ur retard>ur stupidis that all you got?
>>502377907>the extra wound isn't helpful because more healing would be better>you respond not by arguing in favor of why an extra wound is better>just that you personally never go down, which supports neither side of the argument>don't understand why you are wrong despite numerous helpful anons schooling youYeah, you are hopelessly retarded
I am guaranteed better than that retarded shitter and i agree that the extra wound doesn't help. It reduces the effect of medstims and if i were to go down, then everyone else on my team is more than likely already dead too so the extra wound doesn't do anything.Don't know why this sperg decided this was something he needed to argue against, especially since he has clearly lost
>i'm better than the person i disagree withwow what a stance to take
>>502378753I can't believe they're still having a melty.
>>502363367Never thanked you for explaining this, so thank you anon, I do appreciate it.
>vent purge & snipers>retarded psyker decides to stay in the open when horde starts instead of following team to a safe spot>gets the bullet>spam pings under himself insisting that people should res him when there are at least 3 funny looking laser pointers>team gets baited into it and dies one by one
>>502378753That is literally the only "argument" that you have desperately been trying to prop up instead of trying to argue why he was wrongJudging by the fact that you haven't been able to refute anyone in any way despite your numerous posts, i would say that it's safe to say that you already know you have been beaten and. Thanks for playing, better luck next time, retard
>>502379037I saw this trick in a WW2 and a vietnam movie
I'm the one who posted that post about not going down (and stood away from this retarded argument until now) I said average of 0, not my fault you don't get the nuance of putting it that way. I think my actual rate of going down is like once every 10 missions and I could probably avoid a fair few of those if my med stimms were better. To begin with I wasn't saying I want my med stimms to be better or I need help surviving on Ogryn, just that Ogryn literally gets a wound for free but would arguably be better off without it, which puts into perspective people putting +1 wound on their curio at the expense of a better defensive stat.That is all I'm going to say since I think someone seemed genuinely confused in the middle of it. I don't give a shit about your monkey screeching though, because pic related
>>502379190i have refuted you multiple times you just choose to ignore it and go "la la la i win." kinda silly if you ask me
Is there a mod that circumvents this?
>>502361625alright, retardation has cleared, i got it now, thank you anon.
>>502379432>>502379432>>502379432>>502379432>>502379432MIGRATE
>>502379365>kinda silly if you ask meWhy would anyone ask a retard like you? People like you need to shut the fuck up and listen when their intellectual superiors are talking
>>502366952It’ll be around for some time
>>502376030less clunky than an evis imo
