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Please keep this place alive while I sleep
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>>502310495
Any guides for sns/gs pvp/pve boss/pve gates of meme?
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>>502311149
yeah
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maybe archeage will be it
https://x.com/ArcheAgeChron/status/1856879730450186289
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>>502311351
wrong
archeage 2 will be a disaster as they are already in works of destroying it
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Bros... I'm tired...
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>declare boonstone
>don't show up
>waste other guild's time
what's the downside?
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>>502312406
who cares. game is dead.
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>>502310813
:)
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>>502311351
>>502311392
I have well over 10,000 hours in Archeage (15-20 maybe), I played both at the very start, mid and at the very end (the last 5 years before shutdown).

I've played all 3 private servers, hosted my own private server with AAEmu and to this day continue to write addons for ArcheRage; I do both PvP and PvE at the "highest level" (#1 guild on both official and private server).

The reason I'm cloutposting is to put some power behind my message,
Kakao will never, ever EVER make this game good. TRION ran it like a bunch of greedy idiots. Gamigo took over and ran it as a short-sighted greedy megacorporation.
But Kakao? KakaoGames did their absolute best to gut this game from everything that was left of it. Every class was turned into janky shit, every piece of content that was enjoyable was turned into shit. Every patch that was done after Kakao's takeover of XLGames has been such mega hot trash that the game died at unprecedented speeds.

Archeage 2 will never be good; look at what they make now. They make ArcheWorld and other transparent scam games for NFT FOMObros to pump their money into. Archeage 1 was a game with a mountain of potential that was never truly realised, but Archeage 2 does not even have 5% of the potential and they are already gutting it to shit. It's a BDO/DS clone with Archeage's story/graphics, abusing Archeage's name to ride the hype wave and get stupid niggers to buy in.

Don't waste your time on anything Archeage. It will be a clone of another game built for nothing but to pump money with the Archeage logo and some vague lore tacked onto it. Abandon XLGames, abandon KakaoGames.
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also TnL not having sexy costumes or different races (loli, elves, idk furshit even) kills its longevity because coomers who get attached to their character won't stay if they just have carbon copy woman in dress 39028

please bezos give us the kmmo experience
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did they change some default settings? i had to put everything even lower and my pc is still being noisy like crazy, wasn't like this before the patch
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uh oh
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what's the fucking point of skills having ridiculous chances like 90-99% to do something even when fully levelled? why isn't it 100%?
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>>502311392
What are you talking about, they already had the perfect game before, they just had to not put extreme p2w. Now they are improving graphics and combat and keeping all the good ideas and promising to keep the p2w same. I'm not saying it'll be the best MMO ever but it will destroy this shitty trash easily, at least.
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>>502325717
its a badge of honor nigga. be proud, we are proud of you
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>>502338515
crazy how hard archeage flopped due to short term thinking and unprecedented levels of greed, could have still been alive to this day if they bothered to not put all endgame shit in lootboxes
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holy fuck, thread truly dead, this is what happens when there's no avatarwhores
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after this patch i no longer get any portals
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NEW 4FAG SUPERGUILD WHEN?
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>>502320685
>>502320906
>ywn play cute dwarf female in supposed "lineage 3" and ncsoft game
remember minimum height qts in aion?
remember lyns in bns?
remember dwarves in real lineage?
yeah, that's all impossible now.
I hate nu-ncsoft so much its unreal
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>>502361226
The lack of ANY fantasy race, even simple ones like elves, dwarves or furshit is honestly astounding. You can just be human, human or human. 25 years of KMMO's and we have regressed an unseen amount
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>>502345225
There were here, but you rude people bullied and chased them away.
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>>502325717
based. ive said some pretty heinous shit in the world chat and never got banned

what did you do?
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the throne is finished
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damn this game has no water effects. no splashing, no diving, no ripples from swimming or wading around. damn what an oversight
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>>502389785
>nooo not muh heckin immersiorino
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>>502320906
normies would be gone if it had stuff like pic related
youre the minority sorry
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>>502390062
yes
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>>502390119
normies will be gone soon anyway, they never last long and they don't spend a lot of money, it's gooners and sweats that keep the games alive
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>another new 24h low on steam chart
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>>502390119
>this game doesn't have pic related
>normies are gone/have left
Uhm, retardbro? Your argument?
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>>502390629
this normally applies to anime games
wowlikes are for married workaholics that manage a guild like their erp anayltics team
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>>502390629
gooners keep the game alive, sweats go f2p or rmt chinese sites or sell carries or some other shit. they never pay into the game. they are actually the opposite, they are leeches.
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Hoi guys! The super ultra casual here again. So since this new Tier 2 stuff is coming, does this mean if I get Tier 2 things, do I just skip over the regular original purple items and transfer to those? Or is it better to still work my way up through every tier? So go to regular purples, trait that up fully, then to Tier 2 purples?
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what the fuck is 'species damage boost'?
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>>502395968
Tier 2 is not coming, 2 star dungeons are coming, with the rest of Tier 1 loot
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>>502376260
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>>502397437
its poojeet translation. only square enix and mihoyo actually pay top dollar for proper localization. gooks pay the lowest bidder because they have no standards.
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you're laughing

throne and liberty is dying

and you're laughing
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>>502404553
obsessed
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>you know who stops posting
>all shitposting stops
>general reaches unprecedented levels of dead
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if gs/sns hooks me then stuns me immediately after, does purification stone remove both the root and stun or only the root? if it's the latter, now I understand why I'm still stunned after the stone goes on cd (and that's retarded)
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>>502409338
he made the thread
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>>502398374
Ok thanks! So basically, don't try to acquire and trait stuff like the Karnix bow and Toublek staff if I got it?
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I haven't logged in in 2 days, pls send help
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>>502413305
sani made the thread. you know who is THAT person, xhe who shall not be named.
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>>502416956
Who?
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my duo farming random dungeons with another man...
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>comfy abyss farming with a group
>doing my fair share
>night time comes
>kicks me out of party
>ganked by them
Nyo... I thought we were frens...
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I'm super bricked, should I just stop playing or is there a priority list of things that increase your damage that I can refer to climb out of the hole I jumped into?
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>>502416956
transnex?
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>>502419785
- buy all purple books from bp shop no exceptions
- sell healthy milks to sundries one stack is 3.25m
- upgrade purps to 7.4, then and only then add fully leveled and traited blue
- cooking/fishing is worth it. do it. buy salt from bp shop. use abyssal token efficiency food
- use a pvp build. don't use a pve build. nothing in this game is """"pve"""" you just faceroll your keyboard with a bunch of bodies
- don't join a zerg early game they are stingy about loot
- if you're going to whale buy the bundles first
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>>502420758
>upgrade purps to 7.4, then and only then add fully leveled and traited blue
What does this mean? I know you should level and fully trait a blue so you get "blessings" for your purple item. But what does leveling to 7.4 mean? And you can level an item first, then transfer something onto it for the last few levels to be free? Thats a thing?
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i'm the best player in this videogame and i didn't even use a guide
i'm just that good
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>>502422731
he meant to level up the purple item with stones to lvl7 and then use the blue item transfer option to level up to 9 so you save stones
if the blue is fully traited that's extra blessing on the purple which will probably be worth it (you need to check the prices yourself)
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I won't let it die.
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Nevermind, it might die...
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>>502434306
casuals and normies leaving, good.
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No!
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>>502391318
fucking scamazon rerunning garbage outfits is last straw for me tbqh
t. married workaholic
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>>502418635
( ._.)
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yeah the outfit rerun stings a lot, like you really only have 4 costumes you can cycle your marketplace through? KR has over 20 from what i saw in a video how do you not just cycle through those

Having to re-run costumes within two months provides two things:
>we ran out of costumes
>there is no FOMO we'll just rerun it
so both FOMObuyers and eyecandy hunters stop caring because their costume is not unique or exclusive it'll just be re-ran; and there's nothing good coming because they are already rerunning

they fucked up
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>>502439413
>like you really only have 4 costumes you can cycle your marketplace through
ags school of marketing
fuckwits did the same thing in lost ark.
it had ton of good outfits and they held them up until they saw their little faggot metrics go down. then they released them.
thank god this game has different class system or they'd 100% hoard the most interesting ones for later.
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>>502320906
uh oh what game is this
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>>502435121
they didnt have a timer on those outfits last time so people got baited thinking they could buy it later. its not that big of a deal nigga, its just 7 days
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>>502426529
>>502422731
Yes you'll get 2 free trait upgrades on your purple doing this, check AH for the most expensive one and do that usually it's heavy att chance/hp/skill dmg
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No...
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>>502439413
who the fuck cares nigga go play second life if you want to play dressup
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Is leveling purples with maxed blues or blues with maxed greens that much more efficient or is it just for the last push from 7 to 9?
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>>502474623
greens into blues aren't gig aimportant, but maxed blues helps because you can do 9 traits for 90 lucent and feed it into your epic; which will give you enough blessing for 2 and some traits

if those 2 and some traits for example on a ring are 300 a piece then getting two for 90+blue cost (probably 10% of hte purple one so 30 here) would means you're paying 45+30 for a 300 lucent trait, quite a lot cheaper
also blue growthstones are cheaper than purple so feeding 1>9 blue is cheaper than the amount it would take you to get 1>6 purple (which is how much you get by feeding it)
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>>502426529
>>502466320
Ok thank you! So the way I'll do this is try to get a Karnix bow, then upgrade it to level 7, then transfer a fully leveled and traited blue bow, trait reroll for one of the three good traits on the Karnix bow, pray for heavy attack, and then free upgrade that twice. Does that sound about right?
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>>502480112
this is good yes
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keeping a dead general alive to spite the tranny
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>>502488575
who
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>>502492343
xhe who shall not be named. the accursed one that was also 90% of the posts here before they had a melty and left
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>if you get bellandir xbow you can no longer kill bow users
>in fact you buff them
very interesting mechanic, very cool
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>>502498487
only until the bow nerf which is soon apparently
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>>502498487
>>502500350
cant wait for bowniggers to get btfo. gs too. buff xbow and maybe dagger a lil. nerf its util a little if you must, but buff dmg
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>>502502218
I hate to say it but yeah xbow does need a buff. I used to hate its retarded spin2win a few weeks ago, but now that people have gear xbows seem to just tickle people.
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>game plays like shit
>game has low population
>streamers still can't get enough of it
wtf?
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>>502505158
There's drops event. Streamers are milking you retards dry before bailing.
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sasuga ncsoft with castle siege exploits before castle siege
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>>502505618
idk soda just turned off stream to play T&L.
shroud has been on his alt account playing it non-stop.
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>>502507268
>why do mmo autists enjoy an mmo made for autists
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>>502507268
well of course they are, tl is a whalenigger game. this whole game is designed around catering to them. all endgame content is catered to them. pvp arenas? world pvp? now castle siege and being a parasite nigger to tax even more lucent so the whales pull away even further ahead than they already do? this game does everything for the whale and nothing for everyone else. its a wonder how this game hasnt died even faster than it already is.
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why is everyone fucking retarded during the tax delivery event
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>>502512030
idk seemed like it died way faster than lost ark did.
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>>502513862
Lost Ark was PvE focused, and had coomer outfits, also more P2W, but i guess most people got suckered in a bit longer

only ones that are gonna stay in TL in the long run are pvp enjoyers so it will be a relatively small community
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>>502514054
I'll keep an eye on it with the upcoming raids but I haven't logged in since week 2 of f2p launch.
game didn't feel good to play and I don't give a shit about pvp in a game like this so there's very limited content for a non-pvper.
lost ark kept me logging in daily from launch until Brelshaza at least.
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What is the name of the costume with the skirt flipped up in the front and how do you get it? Doesn't seem to be in the shop
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>>502514054
pvp enjoyers wont stick around for this either because it only caters to whaleniggers. you have to no life lost ark but you can do end game content at release with whales and succeed together. pvp is adversarial so you will always lose and get fuckstomped every time. its not remotely the same and thats why this game will die because ncsoft are nothing but a bunch of niggers.
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>>502518368
lineage still exists. this game will exist for a long time but I don't think it will ever improve the problems it has.
feeling like shit to play and control your character, guild content focus, progression being gated behind the cash currency.
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are the dimensional contract tokens from the battle pass even worth it at this point? i probably make 20 lucent per dungeon on average now, if that

thinking of buying the precious parchments instead
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>>502522161
dungeons = unlockstones
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>>502515665
thats pretty vague, i dont know what youre talking about. this game doesnt have skirts yet
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>>502526785
This one
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>>502515665
halloween event, you're late
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is this game worth playing if I don't want to join a guild or pvp?
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>>502529565
You want to at least join a guild so you can guild raid for easier access to loot. This is possible in a very small knit guild such as <menhera club>...
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Daily reminder that the lottie guild will take all your loot and feed it into 4 people that hate the game but play it 24/7
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>niggers STILL dont know how to do shaikal
>these people have fucking dungeon epic weapons, sometimes even traited
>still cant do mechs for shit
i seriously cannot fathom how subhuman intellect can function to work and survive irl when they cannot even do as simple shit as this
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Are we all quitting after siege?
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>>502529003
No, the halloween event had the cringe skin with the glowy grin mask. The corpse bride dress was already gone by then.
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>>502533916
We already did
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>>502532740
Reminder that _______you fucking lost______________
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>>502528419
this was one of the Halloween skins that rolled out with the sanguine weapon skins. think the skin set was called shadows embrace or something and it was only available for about a week. no idea if they have any plans to rerun the skins in the shop anytime soon
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>>502498354
>made up headcanon
you blame someone different every thread who gives a shit
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>siege event starts
>everyone starts killing off each other
>defender team just wait inside the castle and laughing
I fucking give up these retards doesn't know how the event works
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H-Huh? You can't exchange salvation essences for weapons? Only armor? The weapon chests seem to be missing!!
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>>502540523
You use them as crafting material for the weapons, silly
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Is there a huge disparity in damage between wand/staff and a dps set? I am using mostly aoe skills but it goes pretty slow. I see people with bows just melt everything instantly but not sure if they are just a lot more geared
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>>502543467
Oh I'm so dumb. Thank you :'(
It took me a long time to realize that Stoneguard was the only place you could even make the purple items, too...
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Holding hands with Melissa, the Senior Sundries Crafter
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I think saurodoma is telling me something
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>>502518704
>lineage still exists
this game is not lineage.
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>>502310813
Your wish is my Command Oh Dyke Queen Kita.
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>>502310495
Thro Lib Gen
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>tfw gs/dagger heavies you for 6700x2 and literally kills you from 100% health
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woho, my alliance managed to defend castle!
profit was 1600 lucent and 43 mill sollent
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>>502518368
That's the fate (and bane) of all pvp mmos. As much as it pains me all I can say is that if they intentionally went with that route in this day and age then they get what they deserve
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>>502518368
that's ok, i'm a whalenigger
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>>502474492
dam lil bro is mad
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>>502518704
>lineage still exists
it only exists in korea, brazil and russia. please tell me you don't think their standards align with ours so I don't have to laugh at you
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>>502578595
daoc didn't die because of whales though
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Finally found a way out, let's have a taste.
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>>502581343
don't kid yourself, it has nothing to do with standards.
it's all oldmen playing games of their youth.
your countries had runejank, their countries had lineslop.
its that simple
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>>502583479
yes, and, it's also brazil, it's spain, it's czechoslovakia and there were even big french alliances on my servidor
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>>502583659
oldman lmao
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>>502583741
this is a boomer webpage after all
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>>502583479
>old men
kek it's all korean chuds in their early 20s playing catch up to the few old men still left lil bro
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>timmy doesn't know
ohnononono xisters....
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>>502523040
i never get unlockstones from dungeons, idk how lucky yall are
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>>502589930
you convert 1 of each dungeon token into 3 unlockstones
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>>502545949
Martinay dumps all over your "waifu".
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>>502566393
do you rika disu shitto gemu?
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>>502582686
cute ass sis
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It's so over.
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my guild got the throne
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no they didn't
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>>502614864
same brotha
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My guild won a 3 guild v 10 guild siege, most of the competitive guilds moved away after losing to our alliance and infighting so only non sweaty guilds remained
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If this place dies, I'm not reviving it. I've already assembled the final surviving group.
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>>502631893
>>502638040
Doubt anyone cares
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bros you're on page 10 wtf it was siege day?
I'm about to watch shroud vod, but it looks like siege didn't save the game.
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>>502547915
it started development as lineage 3.
many of those systems are leftover.
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>>502581343
does it matter where it exists? people are still playing it.
next you're going to tell me Black Myth Wukong wasn't a successful game, or Genshin Impact isn't successful.
hell, people are still playing LotRO and content is actively being developed for it still.
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>>502651746
yeah this looks like booty. looks like quitting early was a good decision for me.
good luck anons, have fun.
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>>502651746
half my alliance wants to an hero after losing their siege battle, the guild that owned the castle had about 10 online for bosses later that evening...everyone is thinking the current owners are untouchable because they have all the toxic pvp whales...they're running the server and basically every conflict boss is them pve'ing it lel.
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This is looking like a runescape situation. MMO boomers didn't like the new runescape and went back to the ancient piece of shit "OSRS". Likewise T&L is looking like shit, but unlike with OSRS, NCSoft doesn't keep L2 alive, so instead they will lose the players entirely.
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fucking nigger events. GET THE FUCK OUT OF FONOS BASIN. I DONT WANT YOUR STUPID ASS NIGGER DOMINION FUCKING TRASH EVENT WHALE CATERING NIGGGER SHIT
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>he isn't lv16 mastery
what's your excuse?
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i liked the siege but isn't it only every 2 weeks? what the fuck do i do now?
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do people do taedal tower contracts?
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>>502666804
I'm 14 at 50%. My excuse is I don't grind shit without tokens/contracts for no reason at all.
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>>502672418
why wouldn't you? it's 3 minutes total for a lot of teardrops
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Down Down
Sugar we're going down.
AGS kills another MMO
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>>502505158
It's an Amazon game, they have contracts with Twitch(Amazon owned) to shill AGS games.
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Why can't I just fucking play the game, do everything and just get my shit? Why is there a contrived way of fucking upgrading shit
>yeah bro just trait random items and get 99043245 blessings to prepare for 6 months in advance
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So uhhhh how's the 2 star dungeons, how's the game now? Haven't played in like 2-3 weeks or so just cause busy. The post above me says now you gotta stack blessings on purple gear for t2 and that doesn't sound fun at all in fact that sounds kind of miserable due to how limited resources are. Did activities get buffed to help with that?
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>>502651997
>bro carlos xavier de paula miguel rafael joaquim jose gonzaga pascoal cipriano serafim still plays lineage and metin2 that means they're still super good mmos!!!
I don't care
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>>502685645
2 star dungeons are out in a week or so but they will only give t1 world boss gear. Actual t2 gear is coming in ~4 months. But yeah I hate this blessing stack system.
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>>502684914
>Why can't I just fucking play the game, do everything and just get my shit?
You very much can, you'll just have to wait to get tier 2 trait fodder items. This is for people who want to be able to max their items out day 1 using tier 1 fodder.
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>do this week's chores
>open new chests
>hp regen, silence resistance
I hecking love gookmmos.
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>>502697547
This is like arpg slop but somehow even less fun (poeniggers love slop).
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>>502711260
In arpgslop you get six million items every second (that you have to sort out through your item filters). Here you get a few every week and they're likely garbage.
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>>502725156
This is why I hate arpgs. Getting shit stats is bad enough, but I'm arpgs you have to sit there and sift through them for 15 minutes every 5 minutes of gameplay. Shit is so ass.
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>have to go down to 36 on kill ranking to find someone not using bow/dagger or bow/staff
i think bow is balanced and working fine guys
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>the only way to have fun with castle siege is to not actually play the event as intended and instead just kill random people outside of the gates
lole. lmao
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>>502730185
and there is some resident schizo here whining about dagger
what a retard
bow staff and even gs are far mor eproblematic
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>>502730902
i was on defending side and had the time of my life, it was fucking awesome being in a good guild/alliance and doing that shit

people in casual guilds are missing out
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>>502734663
daggers are broken too don't kid yourself
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>>502739141
this is why ncsoft are a bunch of retards. this is how you kill a game. make content for which 3% can experience
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>>502739141
>>502742738
the mistake was having other non-castle holders also be anonymous red players just like the castle holders. when you're already letting these top alliances play as massive and geared 280 people alliances (not counting people cheating and having two alliances), you may as well just have everyone else as allies until they get far enough into the castle area
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>>502745254
If you make them all allied the attacking side would always win imo
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>>502745254
this is the most braindead take, you'll fit right in amongst the redditors
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>>502750336
holy paypig
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>>502751389
whaling alone can't take you that high, weapon mastery and skill levels play a huge part in it - neither of which you can swipe to help with.
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>>502751819
>neither of which you can swipe to help with.
But what you can do is use your tongue to wipe my ass. How about that? I'm in dire need of a fat rimjob.
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>>502751819
>>502750336
this is at lvl 16 masteries on both weapons with bellandir and tevent weps, i'll go slightly over 4k once i finish all my skills and passive to purple 5, but that's probably gonna take at least a month

then i can start off-speccing



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