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A thread for Melty Blood and associated Type Moon properties, Under Night In-Birth, other French Bread games and comfy pictures of Ushi.

/melty/+/unibg/ #123: nothing is happening edition

Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npohmXSWELg

>News:
Tsukihime remake and FSN are out!
Hollow Ataraxia remaster coming out eventually, probably!
Shijo, Moai, Defiant and Noddy win CON6! There will be one next year, probably

>UNI Resources
UNI-101:https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1zsoIPd6fasc20EHZKp0GMzN4Y_564h3Rhy5ZI2UiZ70
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Under_Night_In-Birth/UNI2
Matches: https://replaytheater.app/?game=unib

>Dengeki Resources
Download and Rollback: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13xEvawJrCIsXpXghNbNIeK455HsFP8w4kh7kzP23HZQ
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Dengeki_Bunko:_Fighting_Climax/DFCI

>Melty Resources:
Training/Beginner paste: https://pastebin.com/01eXYrVf
Download MBAACC community version, and set up:https://play.meltyblood.club/
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Melty_Blood/MBAACC
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Melty_Blood/MBTL
https://pastebin.com/3fkP1jTC (MBTL Character Guides, kinda old now)
Matches: melty.games
Translated Manga: https://mangadex.org/title/b19fcbaf-f35e-4cb3-a38b-2c6e0dbfff96/melty-blood-type-lumina-piece-in-paradise
Browser OG Tsuki: holofield.fr/tsukiweb

>Upcoming Tournaments/Events
Find JP Events with: https://meltyblood.typelumina.com/event/

CEOtaku: Dec 6-8

previous bread: >>500278676
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my bad i was in a set lol
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any gamers?
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>>502503483
Do you want to play something?
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>>502503483
I am quite the gamer, yes
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>>502503718
yes
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>>502504008
What do you want to play?
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she did not, in fact, save us
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>>502504062
some mbtl might be fun
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>>502504161
kw: fgo
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>>502504105
I guess that's why they call her dirty red
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GGs. I didn't win but at least I got to moonwalk
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CHINA!
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would you block?
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GGs I hate moon drive
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ggs. Fun times.

>>502516467
Please let me have my screen freeze. I can live without the retarded clash frames, but I'll die without that.
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>>502512638
>moon mode available
nah
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>>502512638
probably
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Sionless...
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going through old clips and it's funny seeing the ones from before they decided that you should know how much damage you were doing. Like why was it like that?
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>>502530923
this was supposed to be attached
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tired
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No Noel, all problems.
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Noel slobber...
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Noel is slop
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good morning
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It ended up being a bad morning...
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good afternoon
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>>502530923
I don't understand how sf and tekken still don't do that.
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>>502595953
i feel like if games never did it there's no reason to start. Don't know about sf, but tekken damage numbers seem silly. I did a whole bunch of different combos and they all ended up within like 1-2 damage of each other and then there was some really difficult combo that a top player was struggling to do that did 5 more damage. When I look at T8 combos it's either a full on launch that's going to do more than half a bar, a limited launch that does a third, or some random poke string that does very little. And then they heal a bunch of hp by attacking because it's tekken 8
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>>502602115
I just think it's a nice qol feature that should be in every game, like ch and punish indicators. Your example regarding tekken could also pretty easily be applied to mbtl, where optimal combos oftentimes only do 50-200 more damage than sub-optimal ones. Tekken combos are also more dependent on contextual factors like stage position and whether you have stage hazards available, which can greatly affect your max damage.
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anybody wanna game? mbtl preferably
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>>502607012
why is she being mean to the cat?:(
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>>502612620
yeah, MBTL didn't need it but it was really odd seeing that it WAS in every single other entry and now isn't. That's what I meant by not needing to start if it wasn't already there.
punish indicators are a godsend though.
also reminds me how the game launched without different HP values.
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Hugged by Noel…
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>>502620419
she's racist
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>>502646550
ngl I didn't realize that was akiha and that they were in fate clothes and thought that was their daughter for a couple seconds
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i don't care about uni 2 sys celes i only care about uni corn over lord
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humble request: love arcueid
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is this game still getting dlc when the next part of the vn comes out?
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>>502670831
can't really say for sure if it will be DLC or a title update. Depends on how long it will take for it to release. The game should be set up to allow a big dlc patch but they may decide to just sell a title update instead.
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Dead Noel theory...
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Deader Sion theory...
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BBTAG with lumina characters
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ciel with tats displayed
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>>502665189
shes a cat
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>>502670831
Probably a title update. But who knows, maybe we'll get Nanaya and Len announced in this week's stream.. Probably not though.
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And Noel, as well.
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Put her in.
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>can pretty consistently cancel 623b into 236c on the right side
>constantly get 623c instead of 236 on the left
it's tekken all over again.
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Seibah.
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games?
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do i buy MBTL now or wait for red garden release? im scared of it being a title update and wasting my money like i did with uniclr
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>>502752041
It goes on sale like every other week. Just buy it then
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>>502750856
I'll play if you are still around
>>502752041
Red Garden won't release until 2030 so I would recommend you buy it on sale if you want to play it.
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>>502752041
Red Garden has no release date, FB is on UNI2 DLC for another 8 months minimum, and there's no guarantee Twomina (if it even is a title update) will release alongside Red Garden in the first place.
You are 3 years late, but if last sale is any indication, you'll have a 60% discount at least. Autumn sale is about a week away btw
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>>502753563
I'm back if you still want to play

kw: /melty/
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GGs
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ggs. Type Twomina will introduce Maid Saber, who will be able to quadruple overhead into Avalon.

>>502759491
closed
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Noel on top…
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>>502768563
it was a good attempt, just not quite close enough to trigger the bento to go off.
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>>502767553
>Maid Saber
her name is Maiber
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type lumina got nominated for best fighting game in 2021 and uni2 didn't in 2024.
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Noel nomination...
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50 stones worth of Noel…
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noel of the year, or year of the noel
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End of the Noel
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don't open, noel inside
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Stupid vamp
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>>502849720
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>>502792657
type twomina will win it in 2030
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soon
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Games anyone? I mostly just want to test my internet so it may be a short one
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>>502877212
sure
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>>502877298
kw: /melty/
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>>502877381
ping looks awful but doesnt feel too bad on my side. how is it for you?
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>>502878014
it's not unplayable, but it stutters fairly frequently
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>>502878437
Thanks for joining. New service sux. I gotta see if I can get this fixed otherwise I'm fucked
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>>502879923
ggs. Yeah, I'd work on it some more before entering any tourneys at least. There were a few nasty rollbacks and general stutteriness (still fun enough for casuals though). Good luck with the isp match-up.
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They're doing this to me tonight
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lobby up
kw: len
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sui
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GGs
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The toasted Noel…
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ggs. Thanks for hosting. Nice to see some new faces. I probably should have said this in chat, but I hope you're feeling better.
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The amount of will power it took to not 2b the shield was immeasurable.
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thanks for playing.
def feeling better by now, sleep schedule really messed up these days.
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big shoe
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Why are there so many trannies in the meltycord? Christ it didn't used to be like this
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>complaining about discords on 4chan
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>>502912819
Strive spillover. I will never use discord. I'd rather sit and wait for a match.
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>>502905450
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A slice of Noel...
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i'm so cold all the time I'm going to turn into vlov irl
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turning into page 10
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>>502955948
Be like Vlov, just wear a thick-ass coat everywhere
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>>502955948
Shouldn't have dropped a round
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Just froze my Noel.
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is it always possible to MD after an EX flash outside of blockstrings?
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>>502991208
no.
Normals aren't MD cancelable on whiff. DAN 6C can be punished with a fullscreen EX move like ciel 236C and she can't MD it since it's not a special.
Specials you can generally MD but not all frames can be MD canceled during startup. There are some instances where vlov can be fullscreen EX/AD punished even if he has MD but you have to be fast.
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>>502991208
no
in general you can't MD if a normal is whiffed, before the active frames of a special, during (most) of the recovery of a special, or if a moon skill or ex are whiffed
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>>502991208
>>502995669
some examples
vlov 22A with no followup has an MD lockout during the early parts of the recovery. Depending on range, he can't always MD to save himself here. (if he did the followup he can MD cancel the startup of that but he can't do the followup post-flash to MD it, he'll get hit.)
If you catch the startup of one of his stomps(using the slower B stomp here after being plus from 236c) there are very early frames where he can't MD, but once it starts to become active he can.
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cold
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>>502995669
>>502997570
>>502997902
Sorry, I phrased that poorly. I meant to ask whether you can MD after an opponent's EX flash (such as an EX DP). I assume the answer is no, otherwise people would do it more often.
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Hey guys, I'm not a part of the community I never even played the games but can you guys find me the sauce for pic related? All I know is it's Tamamo.

Thanks in advance!
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games?
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>>503016702
It depends on what state you are in and how many post flash frames there are before the active frames of the move. Jabs are cancellable on whiff so if I meaty jab Saber and she does EX DP, I have 3 frames to cancel my jab into MD, as long as those 3 frames overlap with my cancellable frames.
If it's a 0 frame post flash move like Avalon then I can't do anything.
>>503017971
Sure. I'll play whatever
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>>503019816
Thanks. I guess it makes sense that it would depend a lot on the start-up of the EX move in question.

kw: /melty/
I may lose power randomly, so if I dc, that's why.
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this game sux
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>>503016702
meaty jab -> MD is a pretty strong option, however most people just buffer the whole thing in since it allows them to react to non-ex reversals as well.
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>>503016949
Ask in one of the fgo generals they probably know. Looks like Riyo's art to me.
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>>503016949
Isn't this Tamamo by Riyo? He made a ton of FGO gag manga pages and art for April Fools games and anniversaries. But since she wears yellow I think it's an edit to make vanilla Riyo Tamamo look like Tamamo Aria from Samurai Remnant.
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GGs
Mash kinda sucks...
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ggs. I know I should be playing more aacc and uni so I can actually learn something, but it's hard when I'm still having so much fun with mbtl. Moon skills do need to be taken out back and shot though, even if I still think they're maybe the smartest way to have both simple and traditional special inputs in one control scheme.

>>503034492
Yeah... If you had charged AD every time you had three bars probably would have scammed a lot more rounds off me though.

>>503021805
closed.
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>>503035047
one of the reasons I want a physical copy to play unpatched lumina is to check how good MS starters were before skill bonus was removed. I know people spammed that like crazy on launch but I don't think the damage from them was as near as high as it is now. Can't tell from footage because it doesn't show the damage and the hp values are different now.
gaming history is cruel
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>>503035561
Is there not a way to get a hold of earlier patches of games on steam? I would think some autist would have figured out a way to do it. It would definitely be interesting to revisit versions of the game that I didn't play much of.
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>>503036513
https://steamdb.info/depot/1372281/manifests/
Click the copy button next to the manifest id and paste it into steam console.
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>>503037629
Thanks. Now I can finally practice Saber's looping unblockable, once I figure out which patch it was in.
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>>503037629
i get errors when trying.

>>503038139
it should be the first of the august patches. 1.3, right after evo, added neco and mash. The second patch the same day was the bugfix.
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wait i got it working
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throw -> IAD -> DJ -> falling jA
also works from airthrow -> delay neutral dj -> falling jA
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if you hit someone in the air with it, it would restand them. Someone figured out how to do this mid combo but I'm not labbing that much though.
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>>503043757
better example of how fucked up it looks
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anyway, onto release lumina:
due to skill bonus, most routes we do today don't work.
arc 6BC combos on hit:
5C 623B(current optimal) does not work
5C 214A doesn't allow any further hits
5C IAD jC j2B 214A doesn't allow any further hits
5C IAD jC 5B 236BBB 214C = 3901 damage

Kouma 6BC:
can combo 5C 5B 236AAA but can't 5A after the rekka bounce even with delays.

So moonskills had high starter values since they didn't allow long combos due to skill bonus being taken up. You'd do a short combo and basically get something around that of a 2A starter for sub 4k damage, not the 4.6k or more massive fuck you options we have today which also build a ton of meter due to how long they are.
People spammed MDMS a lot on launch but it was pretty risky since shield BC was a massive starter that DIDN'T eat your skill bonus so that one could get to 4.3k or higher easily.
Also maids existed back then with their launch unblockable.
There's some other glitches that I'll try to figure out and replicate later.
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Top ten Noel moments…
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december 2021 patch should have the akiha/kohaku infinites
i don't know which mash patch has the really long mash combos, I think it's one of the august 25/26/29 patches. I'll look into them tomorrow.
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Noel, now available in MP4s
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