Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, also known as Dragon Warrior, is discussed here Dancing Healie EditionLast Thread:>>502381652 >News:- Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is now available on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X/S, and PC.- Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince is now available on Switch, PC, and mobile phones.- Dragon Quest Keshi Keshi and Dragon Quest Champions ended their service.- Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake has been confirmed for the Switch and will release in 2025.- Dragon Quest Builders is now available on PC, including all QoL that the mobile port had.- Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai is now available on PS4/5, Switch, and PC.- Dragon Quest Treasures, a treasure hunting RPG featuring Erik and Mia from Dragon Quest XI, is now available for the Switch and PC.- Dragon Quest X is available on PC in English via a fan translation. Check DQX Resources for more info.- Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate has been announced. Details aside from the title are unknown. >Guides:/dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqvDQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/MonsterpediaDragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0YpmeDQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS >Links:ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2SAnime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuziMusic: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW >OPhttps://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ >BROTHERS IN ARMS (F)>>>/vg/eagg/
>Merchants can tell you what items do beyond their stat boosts.Kino.
>>502637070Interesting dance
Game is doing well.
And so another adventure begins>Lone Wolf>Tough Cookie>Charmer>Daydreamer
>>502637070>old guy tells me to bring a fairy flute to the top of the tower if I find one>alright looks like I have to do some quest for the flute>it's just sitting on the ground in some random villageOh okay....
>>502638039Anon, watch out! Psaro is in your team!
so how is the translation of DQ3make? is each township some quirky BS or do people speak normal through the entire game?
not cool...
>>502638671Saved.
played for 10 hours today i don’t want the weekend to be over uuuuuu
>>502638428I'm even having him turn into a Wrangler later.
>>502638613Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?
>>502638039>Witty Hero>Spoiled Brat Gadabout>Tear-away Fighter>Daredevil Monster WranglerThis is gonna be a rough ride. That being said, I'm laughing over the gadabout, who I expected to give me the most trouble, is breaking everything in half in battle.
>>502638671Damn jipang brat... needs correction.
Do we still have gender specific equipments?
>>502639973Yes
Sorry anon. Maybe next time.>>502640110>>502639973Looks like personalities were going to be gendered too. Asset files has the female only ones in still.
3 really has never been topped
It really is incredibly how many people are getting filtered by this 30 year old game
>>502640507Nobody seems to be able to read. Even with all the QoL and information people outside of here still ask the dumbest questions.
>>502640507Huh? I haven't really seen people getting filtered by it
>>502640787ive seen a few "this game humbled me bruh..." and "what am i even suppose to do bro"
Hey anons, I just got the boat and was told where to go both in dialogue, voiced, and the mini map but...any advice? What should I do next?
What a fucking pain in the ass on Draconian Mode. Had to grind my Monster Wranlger to 30 so her Attack Attacker thing would actually consistently hit and would lower his attack. How did you guys tackle this fucker. He felt a lot more annoying here than on the Game Boy Color.
Is there something I'm misunderstanding about Garboyle because I've spent 2 hours fighting him and he's unkillable. He spams inferno and wipes me.
>>502641342There's that fire retarded suit you can buy and also you should have insulate. If you wanna cheese though do the KaClang trick. Spam it until he runs out of mp.
>>502641342kaclang till he runs out of mana
>>502641464Insulate does absolutely nothing, my Sage is taking over 100 damage per Inferno. I'll cheese him with KaClang.
>>502641836Get some Fire Defense gear, a big part of DQ endgame is asshats breathing fire at you
>gadabout > sage>wins
Tell me the basics of Monster Wrangler
>>502643085>collect pokemon>nuke bosses
My Gadabout told a joke and now the boss can't attack lmao.
theory: being able to change skin color wasnt added because if you made the soldier tan it would hide the censorship
My current team is>female body builder sage>mesugaki sage>gyaru sageThey're pretty busted...
>>502643702You are correct.
>>502643898im so smart and cool is what you are saying basically
>>502643989The smartest and the coolest.
>>502643085decent early game aoe heal, decent single heal, and broken aoe multi hit damage that is gonna do around 190 damage. It's a fantastic class, only drawback is that I don't think you should start with wrangler like me and reclass into it. The problem is that wrangler gets so many good abilities through out leveling up, you'll want to keep them as the class for most of your playthrough. Other classes can be reclassed as early as 20 or a bit more, they aren't missing out on much. Wrangler doesn't want to change.
>>502644084thank goo very much
any good way to get money early on anons? I want to buy new gear for everyone but I'm getting like 4 to 10 gold each battle and a single piece of equipment costs like 180 to 300...
>>502645149secret places on the map have a decent amount and the colosseum is easy cash when you get to it
>>502644379>gooHE'S A SLIME
>>502645593Get him. He must fight in the arena.
I want to marry Yayoi
>>502645149Put a merchant on your team and you'll have more money than you'll know what do with
I am ready to die
>>502648929I kinda want one but I don't want to get rid of my priest
I heard that the tower where you find the sage book is a top tier grinding spot but I keep getting fucking wrecked by everything there.Did I get tricked?
>>502430513Isn't it just saying crit chance is luck ÷ base luck, then halved for MA but quartered for everyone else? So if base Luck was 5 and current luck is 30 you get 6. Then half for MA so a crit chance of 3% and 1.5% for other classes. And also the lower your base luck the better. Like, starting with 1 luck would be very OP. 1 base luck and a current luck of 200 would be guaranteed crits for MA, if only it were possible.
>lone wolf hero is getting +4 or +5 luck rolls every level I thought luck was supposed to have shit growth. At level 23 his luck has nearly overtaken my gadabout’s.
>>502650683No, it's saying:>your crit chance is the crit chance of your job * (3 OR luck/baseluck, whichever is lower)>if you're a fighter, the minimum crit chance is 0.5%>otherwise the minimum crit chance is 0.25%>also if your crit chance is negative for some reason, it's 0
Do you keep the level you had before if you go back to the class you had first after changing it one time anons?
Question for oldfags.How is one meant to not keep the Hero overleveled after reclassing the rest of the party? Won't he always be ahead in terms of levels? Or am I supposed to have them killed when playing catch-up with the rest of the party?
I would probably love this game if it wasn't $90 and I could actually play it
>>502653363Nope. Back down to level one.
>>502653513they carry over stats from reclassing and level up really quick so even though they will eventually be like 5-6 levels behind you, they’re much stronger than they would have been if you never changed them
>>502653528Canada?
Any chance we're getting DQXIS ported to the PS5 before DQXII releases??
>>502653528I've never worked a day in my life and I bought this game and bought a few last month too. Based government benefits. Equivalent to about $1800 USD a month. Getting $14,000 for Christmas because my grandparents died too.
>>502654406Anon you aren't supposed to say your grandparents died so cheerfully...
So I'm confused, someone said there's no more Gender locked personalities anymore (which is why Tomboy got changed into whatever the fuck a "Tear-Away" is supposed to be), but Male Hero still can't get Vamp from the Personality Test/Guns and Buns book, because you still get Charmer instead?
>>502654498maybe anon's grandparents were bad people
>>502654406Literally me except for the grandparents dying part
>>502654534It's available to party members.
Just finished the story, thoroughly enjoyed the game. Is this where the grinding starts?
>>502654534wait, I knew about the personality test but the Book won't give Vamp to male heroes as well? I thought it did.
>>502654498Well that's obviously sad, but just think of the PC I can buy.
>>502654534A tear-away is basically a little rascal. In a way, a mesugaki.
>>502655227I honestly think I'd prefer changing it to "Rascal" actually, that makes sense at least
>>502655090Better do it quickly before the GPUs go sky high again considering the recent massive crypto inclines.
>>502655224Her face when I ask about Puff Puff within 5 seconds of meeting her
>>502654534playing this made me think about that quest from the bonus DQ11 stuff, where you have to fix Jessica's personality with that same book. Would you really call Jessica a Tomboy? I always thought she was pretty girly, just stubborn and a bit of a brat.
>>502655556In Japan, being a woman with a personality makes you a tomboy.
>>502654406>equivalentbased finlander
>>502655556>give Jessica the book that gives you Paragon>she starts swinging an axe around and talks like Yangusit's the little things
>>502655463ogre slave girl in 12 please
>>502655334Is it actually worth getting a 4090? I can but if there's something similar for less I'd rather not get ripped off.
>>50265598912 year old ogre slave girl please
>>502654253Australia>>502654406Well obviously you're quite wealthy so sharing is caring and all that, I'm sure you can drop a steam key just for me that nobody else will take
what's our thoughts on dqm dark prince
>>502657169the core gameplay is really fun and addictive, can get lost in the mechanics for a quite a while, but everything else around it feels low effort
>>502657169it's a fun game but the budget was horrific, the developers probably didn't have much to work with. Feel lucky you can play it on PC now, i played it last year on switch and it was a fucking joke. The performance was some of the worst i've experienced.
>>502657660Well it's called the Switch because when you see the performance you switch to a different platform. Also turn 360 degrees and walk away
>>502656960Won't it be cracked soon enough?
the ripper of the rift got some nice titties
Almost ready for endgame...>>502658460>niche title with denuvoI doubt it
Baramos is literally this guy but a pterodactyl version.
>prayer ring breaks the first time I use it>eventually find another>breaks the first time I use itit's over
>>502660646I used mine 6 times in a row to steal the Pyramid treasures without having to leave, still works :^)
Was Femdrick ever given a canon name?
the only thing i love more than dqis u nonnyi rly mean iti love u nonnydrink watersleep more
>>502661906im drinkin a cup cuppa water right now and im about to go to bed (having just played some dq3, of course). gnight fren
>answer personality questions honestly >goddess calls me a thug >mfw the group destined to save the world is literally a thug hero party
>>502662086Fitting for a game filled with NTR
>>502662086got called a crybabyi was so angry i criedshe was rightthat sounds like a haiku but it isnt
>>502661659Aileen is as close as it gets apparently (Arus and Aileen are the male and female names that pop up in an early game tutorial).
>>502661659Well given the canon canon name is Loto, that's unisex so there'd be no need for two names. Because the burgers changed it to Erdrick, a name that sounds like it belongs to a man with no chin, thick glasses, a wispy failure of a moustache, and baggy trousers held up by suspenders, it's created a problem outside the intention of the creators' vision.
Aileen and Sophia having a heroines night on the town when
Oh God, does this mean Baramos has a small phimosis penis? Or would that be Zoma?
>>502662336>The canon name is a title which isn't actually the characters real name
>>502662086She means for you to become the Thug Hunter you were always meant to be
>>502662252>>502662358NEW THREAD THEME/WHAT I’M GONNA DO TO ORTEGA’S SON (female)! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9_Jli5pv20&pp=ygUOY29tZSBvbiBlaWxlZW4%3D
>>502662465>>502662465>>502662465>>502662465>>502662465
>>502662465
>>502640507what's really funny is how easy the game is compared to modern jrpgsyou have people getting their ass handed to them meanwhile I'm playing Draconian and struggle to ever get hit or go below 50% MP on my whole team before leveling up
Real puff-puff hours.
>>502662860nonny i love u but u dont have to brag, being a braggart isnt cute at all!! you are cute but...you can..just stop.. its like saying you played phantasy star 2 without a guide no one really cares you know??
>>502662086for me, it is lazybonesI wish I could change...
>>502662960but i did play phantasy star 2 without a guide
>>502663198nonny..
>>502657169one of the worst DQM games and it makes me really mad because I waited almost a decade for it
Heh, all these pathetic anons with their pathetic personalities. Who needs ‘em? Not me. I’m a lone wolf.
>>502663305*hugs you* mhm youre really strong you know? you dont need ,,anyone,, so strong..youre doing so good you know?
>enemy crab used Thwack
>>502664196such colorful caskets
>>502664196The coffins look like they need certain coloured keycards to open.
>>502666729>mfw my sage only knows yellow zing
So do you actually ever have to beat Robin 'Ood in the tower?
tuck me in right now dqg or i WONT be very happy
>>502664196DQ2 simulator
>>502661470The companions falling off just out of pity for >You is what real friendship looks like
>>502661470hehehe
What is that fucking green crab enemy weak to? Dabadabadoo or something.
Shame this died in the West.
>>502670584I dropped it a while back. Can't be bothered to play it anymore
>>502661659>>502662336She's barely even canon to begin with. Didn't even have her own sprite at first. She's always been an afterthought and practically everything uses MaleHero. Just go look at how much official artwork uses her and how many appearances in spin-offs and what-not she's got. Hell, that she was completely ignored for Smash says a lot. Sofia too for that matter.I'm honestly still surprised that we actually got one promo artwork featuring her instead of everything just being MaleHero. I mean, just look at how the first big reveal art is only MaleHero.I honestly always felt kind of bad for her.Not to sound like a feminist faggot or anything but I really do hope that 12's Hero can be both male and female and that both are treated equally in advertising and what-not if so. To this day I still think it was a massive wasted chance to not make a FemHero for 11 and for this hypothetical 11's FemHero to be not-18 to contrast him being not-17. You'd think that would be the kind of retarded gag Toriyama would have loved and done.
>>502670691>>502670584Just download the assets and look at the pretty art like most people do.
>paralyze lock orochi to death from full to nothing with thiefneat
>>502664196Dead Sentai Coffinranger
>>502640272
>>502649586Have fun anon, break a leg
Is there a mod to remove healing on level up yet?Why are the steam reviews so negative? (only 74% positive)
>>502671971Probably a combo of "wokeness", muh censorship, and maybe some people being filtered.
>>502671971>Why are the steam reviews so negative? (only 74% positive)Censorship, probably
>>502671971Censorship culture wars.Well, can't blame it for once considering the interview and what-not.
I have a Warrior, Mage and a Priest. What should I change my classes to?
>>502672194If you don't wanna repeats.Thief, Sage, Wrangler.
There's this hidden grave that's behind a tree until you go up. Interesting.
Finished the game on normal earlier, gonna start a draconian run next. Decide my party comp for me.
>>5026727533 merchants
>>502672753Hero+Gadabout to Sage.
>>502670584I was going to stop playing when they released the new level tier since I couldn't be assed grinding that for so many units and they decided to kill the game a few months later
Christ. I started merchant since it actually seemed usable in this version and the quality of life makes me not want to ditch one ever again on any future runs. Except thief is already a mainstay for me. And ditching Monster Wrangler means a worse time with the arena in the future. Fuck class selection is going to be miserable in the future.
What are the differences between the DQ3 HD-2D remake and the SNES remake? I heard people say recently the snes remake was better
>>502672806Shalom!
>>502674495The new remake is certainly the best version of the game. The reason it gets flak is that it's only the best version of it by a little bit, after losing out in some areas that it had absolutely no business losing out on, and costing AAA price for what was definitely a cheap production on a game that's been readily available for cheap for decades.But it's still the best version of the game. They added a new class, brought the balance of the existing ones into a reasonable spot after 30 years of class balance being totally fucked, and there're a lot of little touches here and there to make the experience better overall. At the same time anyone who's already played it has to sorely wonder over the stuff that's worse for no reason.
>>502674495Remake:>new vocation>new story content>new monster collecting/battling thing>new QoL featuresSNES:Pachisi
>>502674739I love Pachisi
>>502657169Game is fantastic and others overreact about it. It's even better if you play dq4 right before it.
I love it every time I see people take the personality tests personally. Like, it's been decades and somehow this crude ass test has been cutting right into people for years.I'm only disappointed that I'm so familiar with it at this point after playing the game since I was a kid that I can no longer experience the magic personally.
Weird how the "Appearance B" bullshit is only for the initial selection screen. Like the trannies that push this shit only check the character creator or selector.
Don't mind me, just making your run 100x smoother for merely existing.
>>502676050No need. I travel with an inn, an item shop, a church and a bag full of rocks
Is there any point to the flower bed "quest" in Romaria?
How many DQs do you think they're gonna remake? I see 1+2 is coming out next year ^.^
>>502677190I think they'll at least do 4 and 5. And hopefully more like Trials of Mana.
>>502675824>always answer honestly>first playthrough I was a crybaby>second playthrough I'm a thugMAKE UP YOU DAMN MIND YOU WHORE
>>502676041You're only now realizing that the entire thing is a sham?Honestly if anything I'm surprised that they went and made the personalities universal considering the game is up the ass with (you) are WOMAN/MAN moments so frequently I'm starting to believe Horii and Torishima went out of their way to make them more prominent than ever.What I'm surprised is that all that managed to pass by the localization department and didn't get scrubbed.
>>502676367>>502676050This but MW.And around the time MW is not keeping up anymore Sage becomes available.Group damage weapons drop like candy in the early early, and you've got Hero, Merchant, Thief and MW being able to use them. Merchant gets AoE super early too. And the MW gets those four hits in one turn skills that hit like a truck super early too.I genuinely believe that Priest is an absolutely pointless class now. Alongside the mage. Completely obsolete and outclassed. Only use them as your final class because you like their looks. That's the only reason to use them now.
What's the little girl in the pyramid on about? Is she trying to trick me?
>>502680286She's a monster you can recruit later
>>502679719Priest is devalued but it's far from bad. Somatic staff is ridiculously good in this version of the game and you get early access to it. They'll primarily compete with merchant as a starter class you transition out of but will probably out damage them on single target from the time you reach the bazaar and compete with mobile inns in combat utility.Mage is eternally relevant because of 21 oomph strats. This will never change no matter how badly they're outclassed otherwise.
>>get urge to impulse buy 3make>>nowhere within 40 miles has it in stockRual living stays winning for my wallet
>>502681506Yeah, I live rural and my Walmart didn't carry it, so I bought it digital
>>502677965The censorship’s in 4 would be an actual issue
God, Female Sage is still one of the GOAT designs of all time.Toriyama was a fucking genius. We lost something invaluable and there will never be anyone half of what he was at his peak.
>>502683150He had been making pretty mixed designs for the past 10 years at leastHe was nowhere near his prime by the time he passed
Why wont anyone tell me how big a deal Gadabout's new magic buff actually is. Will this be required for my eventual Mage wife to learn?
>>502683260The digital transition, like it happened with so many traditional artists from that era, absolutely murdered him.Still, he was still a genius character designer. And in some way I cannot blame him for what you're talking about. When you've been character designing for over a quarter of a century running out of ideas is the norm rather than the exception.
If you turn off the game in a dungeon after an autosave, where are you when you resume the game?
>>502679409>all that managed to pass by the localization departmentthey were too confused by accents to do anything
>>502683637Orange piccolo is one of the biggest sins humanity has been left with
>>502684321Orange is fine. Maybe it could have used to be a little less bulky but considering there's not much you could do with Namekians the design is very fine. Making him orange because Dragon Balls and the ties to Namek overall was genius. And little details like the antennas going upwards and the red eyes are a nice spice.The Gammas are very good designs.Hedo's pretty good for what he's supposed to be.I'll give Cell Max a pass because Semi-Perfect Cell was always Toriyama's favorite form, for whatever reason, doesn't hurt to give the man that one as a treat.Beast is the true tragedy. I fucking hate Iyoku for shoehorning Gohan on the would-be Piccolo-only movie. Specially so when it was very very clear to anyone with half a brain that Toriyama didn't care about Gohan at all at best and fucking hated him at worst.
>>502683260i don't think so, at best i can give you the stickification of his designs but honestly i never had issues with thatand even then, i think dragon ball is the only thing that really got hit in any meaningful way, everything else he did in the past 10 or even 20 years is still cool, even those 2 or 3 original characters he made for Jump force>>502684321orange piccolo is cool though, as is "lime" piccolo before itBeast is retarded, but honestly so is super saiyan 3, we just got used to that one. On that note, ultra ego is also extremely retarded, though idk if that's still Toriyama or Tracetaro
>>502684817I hate all the designs from that movie
Anyone else used to go on this site years ago? Just had a sudden flashback and managed to find it again. https://dragonquesttreasures.blogspot.com/
>>502685941>All those dead megaupload linksGod.
dont remember the boss troll being this annoying
My priest only has 88hp at level 18. She's too weak.
>zing fails 5 times in a rowokay bro>>502694038shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up
Do Rousing Rings even fucking do anything? I'd be better off taking a handful of rohypnol to stay awake.
>>502691096>Get a Cleric with Plugger>Resistence/Stamina up the assThinking of swapping to heavy Strength/Wisdom increase for the last few levels and the swapping the Cleric to a Warrior. Not sure how viable that'll be, but the game hasn't been too hard for me to worry all that much on making optimal party compositions (we'll see when I make it towards end game, though).
Welp, get the boat now. This is honestly always the scariest part of any DQ game for me for some reason. Any recommendations where I should go first? About to check out the light house. Where is the dude that wants a merchant again btw?Also the new Ortega is completely missable isnt it? Some could easily just not go to mur and see those scenes. And some could just not go back home and show the mom ortega's helmet.
>>502696548*new Ortega content
>>502696548It's the Official DQ Boat arc, you must go around the entire planet tagging every Zoomable location and checking all the shops for cool new weapons before deciding where to go next
>>502667370Calling it now, Cannock will be OP in the 2make.
I fucking love DQII, im more excited for the II remake than for III
>>502685941Damn, I really miss these niche, single-interest hentai sites. I mean yeah it's objectively better now that you can open up sad panda or a booru and just search "Dragon Quest" to get 100x the content, but still. I remember I used to browse a site for Mega Man smut that had silly comments from Dr. Light on most pages, soulful shit.
>>502698710Female
>>502683406>freezing waves you’re waifuNothing personnel, kid.
Toriyama killed himself because he knew DQIII was being remade in "2D-HD". I hope SE issue an apology to his family and do better with the IV remake.
>>502696548Just like the original, the game points you in the direction of sniffing out the Ultimate Key. Lighthouse tells you to go south, the ruined village at night hints at the bottomless pot, you find the immigrant town along the way to the hint, you can find the Echo Flute on the same continent, etc.To be honest, I'm surprised the remake didn't force you to visit the Shrine of the Everbird first considering how many new additional hand-holding scenes there are.
>>502700324hd-2d is kino
My vamp thief sucks ass. He’s lagging behind my gadabout in every stat. Is there a stat penalty for giving a type-a a type-b personality?
>boss troll going well>he crit kills two people in a row>fail four zings in a row>second attempt, going well>does the same>fail FIVE zings in a row
>>502706257fizzle helps the fight a bit
>>502706535third try went better, had to use one leaf because I missed another zing so that's ten in a rowit went super duper smooth right up until the very end where he gibbed my sage, but he was so low I could just go hyper agressive and finish him offthis felt like a dq8 postgame superboss, not so bad until you get critted and your whole groove is off
the ghost ship hates me uuuuu
I've done thousands of damage to Baramos and he won't die.
>>502706257I'm glad other people are experiencing thisI've never had Zing be this consistently unreliable>>502709002I would like to see the stats for all of the bosses, HP values feel incredibly high. I'm pretty sure boss troll had 2.5k hp, and Baramos something like 6 or 7k when in the SNES version they had 1.5k and 2.5k
>>502711126probably because of wrangler being able to do like 300 in one turn
>>502676041>is only for the initial selection screen.And when mom goes to wake you up.
>>502711126>Baramos something like 6 or 7kchrist, that's like, almost superboss territory in other games
>>502720108that isn't a confirmed number, just speculation from me with how it felt as I fought him yesterdayI had 2 damage dealers each doing around 500 and it took a good 10 rounds to kill him with the hero switching on and off healing duty
>>502719094At what level do they learn the skill? I think I reclassed mine too early.
>HE KNEADED A POO!!Jesus Christ, what was the setup to that punchline?
>>502721541You learn it at 10 Monsters, but it doesn't start doing the big damage until you have 50+ Monsters as it's damage scales with how many monster friends you have and not any statsStill super useful as a ghetto 4 hit options for metal slime hunting at the tower mid game and late game is able to just about keep pace with Warrior's 4 hit physical assbeatery - A great option because it doesn't care about your attack for a Sage to have a non magical attack option and you'll get it in the deal learning Beast Mode anyway
>thief steals orochis swordif only it were good
>>502724842It's a little more gold in your purse, at least.
>>502725006i have 80k in the bank
>>502725460And now you have a little more!
>10 Zings to revive someone after a random encounter threw 4 Kasizz/Kaswoosh at mewhat the fuck
>>502726021stop wanting it so much
Is Monster Wrangler the you didnt beat the game class?
>>502722860Why did the baker get told to go home? Something like that I'd guess.
>>502726985yes
listening to a japanese girls heartbeat while failing zing for the 6th time in a row
>>502726985if you had party members with you, you did not beat the game
>>502726985You have to go out of your way to collect the monsters to actually make Wrangler good and it doesn't take much the get a Warrior or Fighter quad hitting for more damage thanks to OomphHonestly I think it's all the Boomerangs/Whips making the entire Early -> Mid game a stroll in the park where MP only matters for healing. Spells used to be the premier method of AoE and managing MP was the hallmark of a dungeon trek, but More AoE options and HP/MP Restore on level up make everything up to Boss Troll a pretty smooth ride, and even then Troll is just an asshat Speedbump in difficulty
Finally got 3 Vamps
>>502664196Looks like someone forgot to attack its weak point for massive damage.
>>502676041Reminds me how with the Collection of SaGa, they added some bullshit screen at the very start saying something about "some things have been changed to reflect modern sensibilities". The censorship crowd smugly thought they had won and didn't bother to play the game of course, because all they care about is "winning" the culture war.The anticensorship crowd freaked out immediately upon seeing it, and put the game on their blacklist of shit localizations.Turns out nothing was actually censored, removed or altered to fit Californian sensiblities and both sides got trolled. Devs take note: all you need is one little false disclaimer like that to get past these people because they don't actually play the game and you can keep things however you want.
okay I kept track of my damage during the King Hydra fightin the SNES version, it has 1,600 HPin this new version, it has ~7,500 HP
finally party wiped outside of a boss fight on the 4th level of maw of the necrogond
What level should I grind to after reclassing?
God, those chests on the top floor of the pyramid leads to some awful battles. Fucked me up more than the boss.
>>502726985martial artist and sage are still better
>>502729712But.. why?
>>502733551Why what
>>502727824KEK! No wonder all those king squids were doubled over with laughter
there we gothis remake has been more difficult than I expectedlooking forward to whatever postgame content is here
>>502732714Wrangler into Martial Artist just might be better than Sage
>>502735925nice bikini babes
liquid metal slime hates me..
>>502736331Neato. I was thinking of keeping my MW as that the whole game, but maybe I'll switch to MA for the postgame stuff. I've never used one before, what sort of stuff do they get besides a higher crit chance?
that was quite the post credits teaserhad a feeling thats where it was going
>>502737506they have a move that is always a critical hit
>>502729712you didn't beat the game
>you can use recall to mark down locked doorsholy based, this is convenient as hell
>486 agility >liquid metal still moves first
People are such assblasted min/max fags that someone wants a mod made to make personalities either do nothing or only give positives. What's with people bros? Is everyone trying to solo the final boss Baramos the hard way?
You didnt beat the game if your whole party wasnt gadabouts, while on draconian, and hadnt modded the hero to also be a gadabout
>>502737506>>502738380New move that hits 4 times at like 0.75 strength per hit, couple that with wrangler’s two moves per turn move at 50+ monsters and martial artist’s ridiculous crit rate and you’ve got the ultimate physical attacker. Thief/martial artist is theoretically capable of more damage, but only under very specific conditions.
>>502740672I wouldn't mind more build options out of personalities actually. There are more viable ones now but it's still only like 10 good ones overall
>>502740672That's just the way modern gaming is, and was probably brought on by things like MOBAs
>>502738380Hell yeah, fuck up some metal slimes!>>502740996Oh baby, I love the sound of that combo. MW to MA it is then.>Thief/martial artist is theoretically capable of more damage, but only under very specific conditions.You've got me intrigued, what conditions are you talking about?
>>502741924confusion/sleep > Persecutter I assume, it does a ton of damage just like Erik's main setup in XIhelped a lot in the midgame for me, but I stopped using it once I unlocked multifists, which was just before the final boss rush
>>502739505>h-he’s fast!
Is DQ3 remake censored?
>>502743390Depends on what you consider censorship
>>502694958If you are against the pyramid boss I didn't feel any different and I even equipped two to see if the effects stacked.
now that I'm in the postgame, where the best place to farm LMS? I want to shift jobs aroundsaw some other place mention near Rimuldar but there wasn't a lot of them there, maybe one every 5-10 encounters
>>502743390a single design that has been altered in pretty much all other video game appearances in the past 10 years
The game suggests changing mage to Martial Artist but why? It's a glass cannon to another. Is it just because oomph in a physical attacker?
>>502744674Thought it was priest to martial artist
>>502744674fast class fast casts.
>>502744974It was, just rechecked. Makes a bit more sense.
>>502743390Yes, by a fair bit, but the game is still fun if you can get past it. At least they cant go back and censor the original if you ever wanna play it again
DQVI is the entry I remember the least about as I've only beaten it once compared to most of the other entries (sans II). Probably going to do another run of it after III HD. Can't remember if it was great or just kinda average.
What content from past versions is missing in the new remake? I know the board game thing from SNES is out and monster metals are only in GBC. Is there anything else that didn’t make it in?
>>502748259Pachisi is the only thing I've heard about. Some people were claiming sky world was also missing but that's just a blatant lie
>>502748259genders
>>502676041Its all for the dumb game journos that only play the first hour of a game...if that.
Is the blue crystal in gaias navel important at all? Has a shimmering sound effect going off when near it but doesnt do anything when you interact.Also, chiromancer was the first time a fight actually worried me lol, got me to 25 hp. I accidentally used meditation not known how good it was, and was so freaked when I misclicked it, only for it to fully heal me.
Wait so. Robin Hood is like your stepdad or something? I didn't get that scene.
What level were you when you beat it?
>>502751278you shouldn't beat itNEVER GOON
Started with a Martial Artist, WRANGLA, and a Priest.Plan is to move the Priest to Sage and the Wranger to Warrior.... eventually? At 50 maybe?What should I do with the Martial Artist? Keep him there?
>>502751336gooning on slime hill
>>502751278This in response to me with chiromancer? Level 34 currently.
Lads, I'm in Portoga right now. Can we do something about the boy and girl that turn into a horse and cat later or they are doomed?
>>502751509It is a question for everyone that’s beat it already. Im level 37 but don’t know if I should tackle the final boss yet
>>502751278this was my party just after the final boss, my hero hit 45 after the fight was done
How should I allocate my seeds on a warrior to get Vamp?
>have 5 of the 6 orbs>know that DQ3 is ending soon (not including Xenlon)>still have a full week of teaching before Thanksgiving BreakI want to keep playing, but I also don't want to finish too soon so I have something to play over the break. Help me bros....
Remember to show mom Ortega's helmet.Show your actual mom it too. Tell her the story of it.
I don't like how they changed Mur's storyline. It used to be them figuring out you're PereRussianWord's son and giving the helmet to you.
>>502753234Are there NG+ contents
>>502753234>have all 6 orbs>turn my wrangler back to a warrior so i can keep grinding
>>502752860I don't think warrior can get vamp at all normally. Your best bet is to slap the mini medal garter on one early
>>502753234Just finish it and then start it again during your break. DQ3 is designed for replay, not completionism
Reminder that if you want any merch related to Dragon Quest I and II now is the time. The moment we get a release date scalpers are going to grab up everything. This goes for IV-VI too. Now is the cheapest time.
what if they make ix hd-2d instead of iv
Behoimi~
>>502756398cant even think of any dq1 merch
I'm only about 15 minutes in, and I hear this entry has been made easier. Should I restart in Draconian mode?
>>502758675No need to restart. Just switch to it.
>>502758675It feels easier even in Draconian. The game just kinda throws stat seeds at you, and skills go a long way to make things easier.You don't need to restart to change difficulty, you can find it in system settings.
>>502758786>>502758824Alright.
>have a dream about dragon quest despite not playing it for sometime.>some witch seals people inside mirrors >half my team is gone>time is frozenthe witch wasn't evil by the way. there was some dora in gray lookalike.
>>502758675For the record, there are a couple spikes on Draconian, but nothing a few levels can't solve.
>>502759749kill yourself
the bot is back!
>>502755679Kek I see. How many reclasses are you going to take her through?
>>502637070Any save editor or trainer around here for DQ III HD-2D?
Terry's Wonderland 3D got an English translation, but what about Terry's Wonderland SP? It has 41 new monsters apparently...
>>502743390The censorship I could find>the manji in Dharma temple (Alltrades Abbey) has been removed >Soo has been renamed Persistence and residents no longer speak like stereotypical American Indians (ironically Baharata residents have become even more stereotyped) >male merchant and female thief now have light skin tones >magical bikini is less revealing than it was in previous versions, only comes in one variety (no v-string for mage or school swimsuit for warrior)>warrior’s armour bikini is less revealing >sexy gal heroine can no longer prostitute herself (feature exclusive to the ShindoL version of DQ3) It’s really not that bad and should be easy enough to mod in/out. Frankly I was more annoyed with the excessive handholding.
>>502761317to be fair, it only came in one variety in the original game.
>The dragons in the TowerI was NOT ready
How for into next year do you think 1 and 2 release? Did they say early next year or just next year?
>>502761317>>sexy gal heroine can no longer prostitute herself (feature exclusive to the ShindoL version of DQ3)Tell me more fren.
Holy SHIT Service Call is cheesy.
>>502762169Technically not a game, but it’s still canon.
>>502761834switch 2 launch title
>>502762301An anon last thread said it trivializes the final boss.
>>502736331Wrangler into almost anything is broken.
>>502762301Merchant is such a great starter in this version between this, the early AoE and bonus gold going way further. Better weapon selection too. Great candidate for your first sage.
>>502762921It's more based if you leave that merchant too. then get her back.
>>502762513Honestly I think they’ve been holding back on 12 info because it’s being developed with Switch 2 in mind.
>>502739248Oh fuck, that's way better than writing them down in a notepad file, thanks for the tip Anon
At what level does Wrangler learn his/her last ability? I don't want to reclass them until that point.
What would you guess are the ‘canon’ personalities of Arus and Aileen?Going off physical appearance only Arus looks like a stick in the mud and Aileen looks a little sassy.
>>502400926You can wish to change the Hero's hair color after beating Xenlon
How rare are the metal slimes in the Tower of Transcendence?
>>502764906Can't be that rare, there's one right behind you!
>forgot that chain sickles aren't whips>againI swear to god this happens to me every time I play these goddamn games
>>502682005Cute Zoma
>>502764843I dunno about Aileen but the male protagonist who dominates official material is pretty much always depicted with a serious determined look on his face. He's never really depicted smiling but he's also never really depicted furious with gritted teeth like a lot of DQ leads are. It's clear that he's supposed to be more stoic in nature whenever he's depicted with other leads. I want to say something like Paragon or Tough.
>>502765578Literally every fucking time for me too man.
Healslime Life Healslime Wife
https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/1gu429j/psa_for_dq3hd2d_players_there_are_levelbased/So apparently when you reach really high levels your damage becomes actually lower than at lower levels.Glitch or anti-grinding feature? What'd you think?
Use seeds when you get them?Use seeds later on?Which type are you?
I'm so fucking madfirst attempt at Xenlon with fairly low levels on my party, after fucking AGES got him down to orange and things slipped because I'm out of elfin elixirs and my Hero has missed 80% of his fucking Zings
>>502767657Use seeds when I get them while abusing saves to get +3 everytime.
>>502767657All seeds on hero.Simple as.
Do buffs/debuffs stack or just re-up?
>>502769580Some stack
>>502764298>notepadI use the notes feature in the steam overlay too, it's extremely nice
Does anyone know how to get this stone yet in Gaia's Navel? Based on the dialog at the Dwarf Shrine, I'm assuming this is the material I need to upgrade Ortega's Helm, but I can't pick it up when I interact with it.
>>502770472You need another wrecking ball
>>502770654nta but where would I find that?
>>502770698Same place you got it the first time
>>502770785Oh, doing that now! Thanks anon.
>>502770654No good. No new dialog in Reeve. Can you only upgrade it when collecting the rest of the Erdrick equipment? I'm still collecting Orbs.
>>502771452Oh my bad, you have to be at a later point in the game. Well now you know at least
>>502764906I changed vocations for my party 5 times and got them all back to 20+ within a few short hours, so fairly common. Would have been faster if they didnt run constantly.
>>502771649>5 timesWhy?
>>502771741I wanted them all to have various healing and attack options. Now my warrior, monster master, and thief habe zing for example
>>502771879Technically I only changed one 5 times though honestly, the other two got changed 3 and then leveled a lot but still
>>502771879Can a character learn skill from more than 2 vocations? Say if I wanted to give my warrior skills from every vocation, would it be possible?
Classic https://files.catbox.moe/of1dvn.jpg
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/11/dragon-quest-3-hd-2d-remakes-brutal-difficulty-spikes-are-shocking-new-players
>>502773932>half the playerbase says it's easier than before>the other half keep dyinglol
Is there a full list of abilities and spells for the Hero? I know it exists for the older versions, but I can't find one for HD2D
>>502774328here's all of Hero's abilities, haven't found a compete list of spells yet thoughFlame Slash (Level 8-9)Dodgy Dance (Level 13-14)Lightning Slash (Level 17-18)Defending Champion (Level 22-23)Gust Slash (Level 23-25)Meditation (Level 28-30)Falcon Slash (Level 30-32)Gigaslash (Level 45)
>>502774328
>>502774247I think it has to do with the unaware going out with a party comprised entirely of negative modifiers (thug/scatterbrain/etc), and the nerds knowing to roll good mods asap.
Tempted to just do all the monster arenas on baby mode so I can engage as little with the mechanic as possible...
>>502775127>Hero never learns Kazingthe fuck is this shit, I really do gotta get a Priest huh?
>>502775234Bro your sage?
hmmm
>>502775274What if 94% of players are just REALLY good?
>>502775274>he died
>>502775127>>502775001Thanks!
>>502775271having only one Kazing in your party seems pretty risky
>>502772226
>>502775274I was more confused by more players going into alefgard than beating the ripperor even getting your boat before you beat the ripperhow do these things happen?
>>502772226I have no idea how it works in this game. DESU, changing a party members class more then once was kind of a dumb move, because the game just wasn't that long in the past, but then again I don't know how extensive or difficult the new postgame stuff in the 2DHD is.
>>502775393I think it means specifically (You), not your party members.
>>502775602But don't you need the magic key to get to not-Portugal?
>>502775393is that achivement for reviving anyone or just the Hero? Because so far my Hero hasn't come close to dying (thank you, Tough Cookie)
>>502775192This is a casual-free zone. Please leave.
>every vocation at level 40-45I am ready for the endgame!
>>502776287It's for wiping completely and choosing to return to the church with half your gold (As God intended) instead of loading the quicksave.
>>502776476Quicksave? You'd be better off loading the autosave since it does it on area load, after opening a container and after every battle.
>>502776476Oh. Damn then, you're never getting that in a normal playthrough.
Anyone know if it's possible to get through the door here?
>>502777038come back at night
>>502775407
>>502777038In the original wasn't there a hungover guy blocking a doorway and you had to come back at night because then he was in the pub again? Or is that a different DQ?
>those filtered 1/10ers
I'm having cottage pie for breakfast in honour of DQ3.
someone explain to me how buffing works in this game? I've played a lot of modern dq games (11,9,8) but never this. Like i'll use kabuff twice, and an enemy uses kasap on me twice. What happens? Do the buffs just kinda cancel eachother out and that's it? It looks like the debuff stays on even after i cast kabuff again. I remember in dq11 you could just buff yourself again and stay at +2 stacks forever.
>>502777769Man, it's been an age since I've had shepherd's pie
>>502772226I did a little bit of testing for you. It is possible to learn skills from all vocations, I have a sage with all abilities and spells from all other vocations now.
Is there a list of recommended vocation changes for each vocation?
>>502778052No idea. It really annoys me how many RPGs barely explain their mechanics. Would it really hurt to have damage calculations and stuff in-game? It could even be a toggleable option to display extra info so normjes don't have an aneurysm trying to use their brain to do something other than upload a selfie.
>>502767608Wow, that’s bullshit. Reminds me of FF4 when your stats have a good chance of decreasing on level up after level 70 or so. I doubt you could do anything about without radically changing the damage formulae
Wyrtles tongue my anus.
What's this room about?
>>502786184See >>502770472
People who've finished the game.Does the remake confirms this is XI's world or not?
>>502779192Gonna grind for a week to build the ultimate character
Raising a gadabout to lvl 48 from the very beginning of the game on Draconian is beginning to be a slog.I don’t care how good she looks in fishnets, all that sneezing is NOT cute.And it just occurred to me I’m gonna have to fight Baramos with this bitch (too autistic to bring along a character who wasn’t part of my initial 3).
The game REALLY wants you to buy a somatic staff.
>>502739248OH SHIT NIGGA.
All these lies about the ending and postgame I’ve seen. My favourite is that if you resurrect Ortega he comes home to find the missus has moved on with Robin ‘ood
>>502761317You can turn off the handholding
>>502761317>the ShindoL version of DQ3Nani?
https://dragonquest.square-enix-games.com/mydragonquestvocation/
>>502791823lul
>>502791823
My sage absolutely annihilates my monster wrangler and thief on stats Christ.What level am I supposed to be after completing the first round of orbs and get the town to stage four anyways? When the goddess tells me to start looking for other shit.
>>502791823My mom kicked me out of the house and the king has told me to defeat a demon lord. Who wants in?
>>502791823Naturally, I have the highest IQ possible. The highest.
>>502791823nice and I was ready for the results to start insulting me too
>>502769580If they didn't fuck with it too much then Buff and Accelerate stack, Oomph doesn't
>>502792957Sign me up
>>502793807Someone in Alltrades explains how buff stacking works but I cannot for the life of me remember.
>>502793589>results come with some wallpaperscute
Holy shit, dq11 has one of the worst localization in history. Just got to Lonalulu (clearly a made up fucking name that has NOTHING to do with the original) and everything is Hawaii reference. What the fuck is this? And that town where people speak in Haikus? What the fuck? Why? I play with subs - they clearly talk normally in Japanese. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea? Has dq3 remake gone the same route?
Just replace the name of the vocation to get the rest of the file assetshttps://static.square-enix-games.com/DQ3_Martial_Artist.ziphttps://dragonquest.square-enix-games.com/mydragonquestvocation/assets/images/vocation-page/martial_artist_char_1.pnghttps://dragonquest.square-enix-games.com/mydragonquestvocation/assets/images/vocation-page/martial_artist_char_2.png
>>502794840Gay
What do I choose bros?
>>502795661YOU CAN LITERALLY BRING YOUR DAD BACK TO LIFE
>>502795773>jobbed to king hydraWhy would I wanna resurrect a BITCH?
Anyone know if this copy of DQ5 is used or a counterfeit copy or what?https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dragon-Quest-V-Hand-of-the-Heavenly-Bride-DS-Game-North-America-Version/8330515247?classType=REGULAR&from=/search
>>502795864Does it really matter? It's a ROM, the same ROM you could just download for free, plus a plastic box made in a factory in China.
>>502795862Because then you wouldn't have to be the only bitch in the room.
>>502796673I'm probably going to buy this instead of the legit copy that's like $250 or more
>>502796807Yeah but even the legit copy is literally just a small ROM file prewritten to storage, then a cheap plastic box. It's not some handcrafted masterpiece, forged by a long dead genius. It's a file written onto a plastic card by a machine. But yeah, definitely get that one instead of some rip-off thing on eBay.
>>502797039Yeah. Anyway off to play DQ3 :3I might get some beer this morning and play DQ3 all day while sipping my beer
>>502637070Is there any reason to play the new censored tranny slop over the SNES version?
Is there a list of what level each class learns what?
Has anyone really noticed knowledge scaling magic damage at all? Because it really doesn't feel that way.
>>502799040There are mods for uncensoring the game. Baka.
>>502799040There's actually very little that was censored, the Type A/Type B thing is irrelevant literally immediately after you select it and the game genders you for in its entirety.That said it isn't a strict upgrade to the SNES version which is pretty disappointing and loses to it in some actual regards. Overall I still think it's the best version of the game despite its flaws but the biggest sell is just that classes are rebalanced and all of them are competent now which wasn't true previously.
Apparently there's a special reward for solo killing Baramos
>>502802062It's a sword that's good but you can buy it later anyway.
>>502801565What about the adventure itself?Still, I'll wait for the crack and fully uncensored mod. I won't pay a dime for any game with the bodytype a/b bullshit.
>>502803812The adventure is just Dragon Quest 3. They didn't add anything worth mentioning and they didn't take anything away. There're extra scenes here and there but nothing worth writing about it. Basically all the actual changes were mechanical other than a lack of pachisi that vanished in a previous version anyways and the addition of cock fighting.
>>502799334
>>502804135I get it, thanks.
How many of you stuck with Gadabout from 1 to 45 to get Channel Anger before going Sage?
>>502799334>>502804230https://game8.jp/dq3/631186A few Japanese sites have them. I haven't found any English source yet but whatever it's Dragon Quest you can figure it out.
>>502804640I'll probably do it on my next run when I go for the all abilities achievement but I'm taking it easy on this playthrough to get a feel of the game. Wrangler's double action is so incredibly easy to get compared to the gadabout skill.
>>502775602The simplest answer is achievement unlockers. It appears a lot of Questers are dirty cheaters on PC.You can technically skip the Magic Key (and Ultimate Key) if you power-level a Mage until they unlock Click, but I have no idea if the remake locks you out of progression for skipping bosses (like with Robbin' 'Ood). I doubt very many players are doing such a thing, though.
retarded question but if i change classes and then go back to the previous class i go back to lv1, but is that also for ability/spells unlocks? Like for example i'm lv25 in class A and said class has a spell at lv26, i change it and then go back to it, i have to go back to lv26 normally to get that spell or the very next level still counts?
>>502806151I don't know for absolute certain but I'd be very, very surprised if it wasn't just tied to a fixed level (e.g. you need to get to level 26 again).
>>502804680Thanks
>>502806151Grind back to 26The game doesn't have content challenging enough even on the super bosses that you can ever realistically max out abilities on multiple classes so high end abilities really exist to make playing a character straight more practical
>>502806467It's nice that they made gadabouts and merchants playable but I wish they had done more for mages and priests so they didn't just exist as a class change shell. If martial artist can have crit scaling just because it would've been nice to get something on other classes
Why do so many people hype up Vamp when Ironclad, Wit and Lucky Devil are bettee?
>>502808714
Does anyone else actually roleplay in your head what your party is like using their personalities as a spring board to do so? Sure in-game its focus is stat scaling on levels but I think it's a great opportunity to think about how the party presents itself and how each character acts and feels as the journey goes on.
>“If this fails, I won’t be able to stay in the industry” Dragon Quest III HD-2D’s devs talk about the pressure of remaking a legendary game https://automaton-media.com/en/news/if-this-fails-i-wont-be-able-to-stay-in-the-industry-dragon-quest-iii-hd-2ds-devs-talk-about-the-pressure-of-remaking-a-legendary-game/
>>502809207I imagine most people here do
>>502808714Historically opinions on Vamp fall under a reverse u curve of ability. New players see highest stat total no negative and gravitate towards it. Then when you understand the game mechanics you move towards specialized set ups, maybe you read about speed runners putting tough on everything, or you start planning around end classes and run a tough priest knowing you'll change to fighter later.But then you realize that speed runners have no margin of error and don't do 15 turn bonus bosses or that early game is like 30% of the game and that grinds and seeds can fix anything later. And that RNG is a bitch over repeat runs and that comfort matters in a game you're replaying. Or maybe you just realize that wit has paper defense.The point is that Vamp has persisted over decades of the game being very well understood and extremely developed because it's braindead and always good. You can't really have a bad time with Vamp the way you can go tough, hit a few bad levels despite normalization, and get MP starved on a class that really wants it while you prepare to fight boss troll. If you aren't routing with a plan in mind like optimizing bonus boss turns then you're rarely beating Vamp in practice even though the ironclad wrangler>fighter sounds great on paper.
>>502810432Wrangler > Fighter/Monk actually run Lucky Devil instead.
>>502808714It's just specialization versus generalization. Tough Cookie may still be good on someone leading the party and you know will be taking a lot of hits, but Wisdom and Luck aren't complete dump stats any more now that physical classes have abilities (which require MP) and Luck influencing damage and critical hit rate. Vamp still very much covers all your needs without compromising on anything.
Very good interview.https://www.famitsu.com/article/202411/24083
>>502808714Because people are still stuck in the past when Agility was the best stat. Ir's not anymore.
>>502810432>Or maybe you just realize that wit has paper defense.I'm doing Genius and also am way behind on equipment because I'm saving for after I get the boat. Damn is it touch and go in so many fights, but I feel like I've committed to it now.
>>502811239you still need to have enough to act before the ennemies, especially on hard mode
>Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Reaches New Record of 45,000+ Steam Peak PlayersBased
>>502811994Meanwhile Horizon Lego Adventure got something like 600. Imagine getting that shown up by a remake of a remake of a game from 36 years ago.
>>502811134just finished it, really great and was nice hearing their experience with the series
Do you think DQIII will outsell FFXVI on Steam?
>>502815056Easily.
farming liquid metal slimes is a slog in this remake
>>502811363>>502810432Wit barely affects bulk. Its 90/100 vs 90/80 on Genius.Ironclad doesnt modify wisdom, it penalizes both agility/luck (80/80).
>It's the same total. HP didn't get nerfed for DEF, it didn't change at all while DEF stats affected the total average. When you take Resilience - (Agility/2), assuming they're the same value, you always end up net positive by +20%~100% defense except for Daredevil at 0%.>Even with different values at Lv. 99 job stats, only 53 combos out of 10 jobs x 46 personalities give you less DEF than the original with the new calculation. Warrior (299 Res, 239 Agi), Priest (240 Res, 237 Agi), and Merchant (260 Res, 198 Agi) always have net positive DEF regardless. So you should be cautious of:>1 Hero (441 Res, 460 Agi) + Daredevil>13 Mage (221 Res, 371 Agi) + Spoilt Brat, Daredevil, Klutz, Clown, Scatterbrain, Genius, Acrobat, Vamp (!), Bat out of Hell, Crybaby, Daydreamer, Tear-Away, Narcissist>3 Martial Artist (271 Res, 400 Agi) + Daredevil, Bat out of Hell, Tear-Away>2 Gadabout (225 Res, 322 Agi) + Daredevil, Bat out of Hell>2 Sage (227 Res, 329 Agi) + Daredevil, Bat out of Hell>31 Thief (181 Res, 416 Agi) + Egghead, Spoilt Brat, Wimp, Lone Wolf, Daredevil, Klutz, Meddler, Clown, Scatterbrain, Genius, Socialite, Happy Camper, Straight Arrow, Wit, Acrobat, Vamp (!), Lout, Meathead, Bat out of Hell, Crybaby, Slippery Devil, Contrarian, Everyman, Aristocrat, Paper Tiger, Sore Loser, Show-Off, Lucky Devil, Daydreamer, Tear-Away, Narcissist>1 Monster Wrangler (245 Res, 274 Agi) + Daredevil
>>502812776No one ever actually cared much for horizon, so not really all that surprising. Literally only interesting thing about it is it's a lego game, probably wouldve sold better if it wasnt a lego game based on horizon.Speaking of, now I need a lego dragon quest..... the adventure and setting of DQ, with the comedy of the lego games, it would be peak.
>2025 1+2 hd-2d switch 2 launch title>2026 builders port with steam versions enhancements & 7 remake port on switch 2>2027 12 releases>2028 another hd2d remake and probably another port
Good personalities for merchant?
>>502822556Genocidal.
Does agility affect anything other than turn order now?
This fanart is beautiful.
>>502824439I wish the game itself was beautiful
>>502824686Damn Octopath.
>>502826908NO JESTER DON'T DO IT DON'T JUMP YOU'LL EVOLVE INTO A SAGE ONE DAY DON'T JUUUUUUMP
>>502821884Is DQ12 really confirmed for 2027? That's kind of a bummer, I know these games take a while to make but 10 years between 11 and 12 is pretty rough.
Welcome to Gooida's Bar, hero!
Hello, I don't talk in these threads much but how is the performance on the switch version of DQ3 2DHD out of curiosity and how are you anons enjoying it? I'm playing through the GBC version and it's my first time with DQ3 and it's been fun (usinga patch that adds modern spell names like frizz and such)Hope you're all having a good day.
Damn, Lone Wolf really is the best. Just made a merchant and made her one. She's about 7 levels lower than my other guys and has 50hp more than one of them, and the highest HP after the hero. Better agility than two of them. On top of that she's undergeared so could be better.
>>502811615And you'll get that without ever leaning on Agility through normal course of play and smart use of Agility Seeds.
>>502829838runs pretty well but in certain towns especially when first entering it has very obvious slow down, nothing unplayable but it can be a tad annoying. enjoying it a lot!
>>502829838I'm playing it on Switch, but streaming it from my PS5. Best of both worlds. I really like the GBC version, it's the only one I've actually completed. Better translation than the 2DHD one too.
>>502830385That's nice, I wasn't sure cause I was hearing things about that and the censorship so I just said screw it and just got the GBC version and also 1+2 which I'm gonna either play right after 3 or after I play through 11.My friend got me into the series this year and I've played through 4, 5, 6, and 9. Also played rocket slime even though that's a spin-off, didn't enjoy DQMJ though, it just didn't click with me.
>>502791823>ThiefWorks for me
>>502830234my overleved vamp sage that went through 3 class changes occasionally gets outsped by some late game monsters so that's definitely not true
>>502830762the censorships are minor so its no biggie, still would prefer without but it is what is is>didn't enjoy DQMJ thoughsince you are enjoying 3 gbc you could try monsters 2
>>502791823i can handle any beast ahaha (im so lonely)
The second Robbin' 'Ood (fuck this localisation) fight is fucking me up. I went in on a whim, old gear - the latest stuff adds 20 to some stats, and prob underlevelled. Also with my level 15 merchant in the party. Think I'm about to die.
What level should I reset Priest at?
>>502830715>that screenshotKek>>502831616My problems with DQMJ was the fusion system and also using the skill points, I just didn't really understand it well and it wasn't fun for me. I'll try giving one of the monsters games on gbc a try in the future maybe. Also with what you said about the censors being minor I might have to pick up a copy of it now. Probably would be the most use I got out of my switch besides playing stardew lmao.
>>502831520And none of those monsters truly matter in the end of the day when you can teleport anywhere at will, and strong healing items can be bought in stacks that heal larger than the damage a single combat encounter can dole out from the very gold the game gives you for beating them.Let's stop pretending like having to go 1st 100% of the time actually matters. It really doesn't.
>>502832386definitely worth the pickup, it is easily my favorite game on switch and the most fun ive had with a dq since vii's 3ds remake
>>502832216I got pulped by him too, I took a quick detour north to Alltrades for the Zoom marker then tried again and did just fine. You can get some good EXP on the way, especially if you poke your head into the tower real quick.
>>502833659Will do, still have yet to also play 7 and 8 actually.
>>502832731high agility certainly does make battles quicker and saferand honestly going with your logic you can argue that any stat is useless: HP and defense are bad because all bosses can be sleep-locked which means you'll never take a hit, intelligence is bad because MP can easily be restored and spell damage modifier is pretty low, strength is bad because physical abilities get outdamaged until post-game by Call Monster which requires 0 stat investment, luck is bad because...you don't need it to beat the game, I guess
How do you know when you have 50 monsters? Do you count each individual star?
>>502836116the game will tell you the count after every 10 monsters you get, it tells you to go back to Monty who says the number
>>502833698Yeah, I've been up there but haven't changed class yet. I wandered around a bit to level up a merchant to see how they are, and ended up finding that boss. The main thing is having a lower level merchant in the party that I only just made, and having really old equipment on. I'll try again in a bit with my proper party and better equipment. I nearly beat him, too. No henchmen and on orange HP but now all my party is dead apart from the hero.
Where is this dumb treasure im missing on this ghost ship on the deck? All i found was the one in the barrel at the top
>>502837380No idea but thieves have an ability that makes treasure visible.
>>502836116>>502836282Also, go to the info screen and it tells you how many types and how many total you have.
>>502824686>>502825190i disagree but at the same time i kinda agree. Like the game actually moved away from "proper" 2d-hd games so far and it actually just looks like the DS remakes if they were done today, but yeah i guess it's just so close to a full 3D game that it makes me wonder why even keeping the sprites at that point. I guess it's also a marketing decision but given how it looks i would've rather got a ps2 V style remake instead>>502830762censorship is very minor and might even say retarded, cause it goes, and i'm not joking that's pretty much what the game says: "are you type a or type b? (keep in mind type a means male and type b means female)", and in-game everyone just says man or woman
>decide to look into a /v/ thread>a bunch of posts still describe the game as woke as fuck despite the opposite being provenwhat a weird hill to die on
>>502840658If only "woke"posting retards would actually die on their hills. Instead they just keep shitting and climbing higher upon their mounds of shit.
I love Oomph! I'm going to call my first child Oomph! And make sure she grows up to be a Sexy Gal!
>>502840029>it makes me wonder why even keeping the sprites at that point. I guess it's also a marketing decision They do it because it's cheap.
>>502830715>Better translation than the 2DHD one tooIt definitely has its moments.
>>502836116It’s listed in the Misc section
>>502841959me but kaclang
>>502824439>>502840029I kinda wish we got prerendered backgrounds
It should be DQIII HD2DHero's Dad 2 Dead
>>502843861Or going off various female NPCs, Hot Dad 2 Distracted
I'm about to get the boat. Is there anything better than the light shield easily available anywhere?
>>502844921The female warriors abs
Why don't Chunsoft get more credit for making the first 5 games? Especially 3, 4 and 5. Feels like they should be more legendary.
>>502846595They do in Japan
>>502846750Well Sony are probably about to buy them as part of Kadokawa so I hope they don't shut them down.
>>502844436Even male NPCs can't shut up about how hot Ortega is
>>502847156I knew this game was woke >:(
Where can I get either Skull Rings or the book for Lone Wolf?
wow thanks voodoo man (it ran away)>>502844921I bought an ice shield which is better but I forgot where.
>>502848789I killed a LMS twice after a zing and only got the experience for it once
>>502848789>>502849050resurrected monsters don't give you exp
>>502849105they do in other games, so I felt cheated
What's the Toughness personality in this one? The one that's literally Toughness in katakana in JP.
>MA never critswhat did i do wrong?
>>502850490Have you tried being luckier?
>>502850490What's her luck score?
>>502850635200
I'm not sure what to do. I have thief, BW, priest. One I want to turn into a sage but I don't have a book yet. I'd like to still have someone be a thief. If I class change the BW, it's a bit annoying to get new monsters and they don't benefit from the new skills every 10 monsters. So I guess I need to change one into a thief, one into BW, and the other one will have to wait to be a sage. But which ones?Alternatively I'm thinking of doing three stages so they end up as the aforementioned classes but there'll be one before that. But which ones to what?
>>502851023Priest to Warrior to Thief Thief to MW to MAMW to Thief to SageYou'll still have a MW until you get all the skills and monsters. You'll always have a Thief. You'll end up with a fast Man with great utility. You'll end up with a fast Sage with additional utility.
>>502851656Do you keep the monster collection skills if you class change out of MW?
>difficulty: dracky quest>equipment: automatically selected>commands for the whole party: fight wiselyyep, it's gaming time
>>502853071Don't forget to class change everyone at the same time.
Why do they always troll you by having you find Cypress Sticks way into the game? And Wayfarer's Clothes.
>>502854268Adds a little realism to the world. Otherwise it's like Oblivion, with everyday bandits wearing the highest tier equipment.
>>502854268You're not being trolled. The hero is simply a kleptomaniac.
>>502855278it is my Goddess given right as the Hero to take everything from everyone's homes
>>502855584The NPCs are just my servants, guarding my loot until I come to claim it.
I've reclassed all my party members except the monster wrangler. I hate that I have to keep him as this shitty class until i get wild side with 50 monsters
Is 8 still the fan favorite?
>>502856660no because i'm the fan and my favorite is 9
Playing 100% blind, the shrine near Reeve ALSO leading to dreamer's tower threw me for a loop, even though the NPCs told me this.I also wasnt expecting Dreamer's tower to have a guy that literally spends all his time dreaming, i thought it was just a cheesy fantasy name, kek
I can still win
So I stumbled upon a secret spot that's clearly a reference to the whole honest woodcutter story and now I feel crazy. Didnt a DQ game HAVE a whole scenario in reference to that??? Maybe Im just thinking of a different game
>>502849513Tough Cookie>>502850627What kind of personality does a MA want? I'm guessing something like Lucky?
Deep lore: all the adventurers you can recruit are in fact your half siblings from all of Ortega's worldly conquests. Patty's is actually a foster home for all the abandoned kids. Of course, they don't know this themselves. But somewhere subconsciously they feel a bond to you and that's why they always stick with you no matter how many times you get them all killed.
>>502857415but my part are all older than my dad
>>502856601You don't need a MW to capture them.
>>502857264Couldn't tell you, I've decided not to engage with the personality mechanic at all.
>>502853351kek
>>502857609They just look that way due to rough living. They spend all their time in a pub, after all.
>>502856660It's cool to hate VIII currently.
>>502857609as if the normal flow of time stops one from getting pussy
>>502857609that's just how potent his semen is
>>502857990Worst boy.
What is it you love most about Dragon Quest 2? Btw, what's the mobile version for 2 like? Would it be good to play before the full HD remake comes out? I really like the trio.
>>502857694yeah but i need one to get the move wild side
Is there any DQ3 class where the male option actually looks better? I feel like all the guy designs aside from Type B-kun are just sorta fugly.
>>502858750Hero
>>502857906Why?
>>502858068false
>>502859227>Ballerina feet
>>502859227right game, wrong character
>>502859567Future Tranks
>>502859041Too popular i.e. overrated.
>>502859567meh, terry is better as a kid anyways
>>502859865Based neesan
>>502857256Being honest with the ghost protecting the meteorite bracer allows you to keep it. Link to the Past rewards you for being truthful about certain items you throw into a fairy pond with an upgrade. It might have been a common early video game trope.
>>502859567I like this edgy little guy.
>>502859823Is it mainly new or old fans complaining?
Imagine DQ but with FF tier music
>>502861169
>>502861169No. I don't want to.
>>502860542I remember a scene where you accidentally drop an item into a lake and a woman comes out with two things asking if one was yours and I couldve sworn it was DQ I mean...
>>502861767It happens in LttP and the first series of .hack games, for two examples.
>>502861169That sounds like a bad idea.
>>502861615Hmmm, I suppose it is but for some reason I don't want to accept it
>>502861169Why would we imagine a downgrade?
>>502861934Fire Emblem 4 as well, where being honest gets you a better axe than the one you toss in. But yeah, it's a pretty common thing in media.Always like the Usagi Yojimbo spin on it with the woodcutter getting the golden axe for his honesty only to wind up freezing to death since gold is a terrible material for use in an axe.
>>502861934Maybe it was zelda.. Honestly that they removed a neat scene from dq3 for a moment or something
>>502862759*honestly thought
>>502862192Come on. I love Sugiyama, I'm a massive racist myself, but most of his tracks are generic chamber music and they're used and reused across different areas within one game, and then across most of the games too. It's a critical weak point of the series. You'll hear about 4 tracks for the first few hours of DQIII. And none have any emotional sway or depth. Actually I just searched for chamber music and it's all got more personality and atmosphere than most DQ, but it's this kind of stuff;https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koga9kwHdww
>>502761317Don't forget giga nigga troll's lips.>Frankly I was more annoyed with the excessive handholding.For some reason, I initially read this as they added a bunch of scenes of characters holding hands.
>>502863065>Delightful, light very easy on the ear, beautiful.and that's unironically a good thingbesides, it's another distinctive thing of the series, you might like other stuff best and i do too but that's no excuse to homogenize as if everything has to have the same things
>>502857256III has the base axe scenario, but you only get back what you toss in. Similar non-axe/lake scenarios also show up in DQ Monsters (honesty gets you a recruitable boss) and V (honesty gets you all the items being offered).
>>502863697Oh DQ3 did in fact have that? So Im not crazy, good. I guess they did remove it then? Because at the lake you find an axe, but you dont get any special lake interaction
>>502863517I'm not saying it has to be the same. Nier has emotionally charged music, Planescape Torment does, SMT does, VNs like Fata Morgana do. While there are some exceptions, Sugiyama's work sounds like orchestral muzak. But it's also the implementation of too, where all villages can have the same music, or the overworld and a cave can, and so on.
>>502791823Fuck yes, I actually got what I wanted most from one of these personality quiz things for once!>>502792957Count me in bro, I got you!
>>502864729I was so excited, I forgot my image.
>>502864729>>502864973cute
>dying fire M appears
Just got ripped off bros.
Every day I think about random village men taking advantage of female Loto's 16 year old naive nature.
>>502866375I'm one of them
>>502865542how so muffin?
>>502863367Big bara tiddy facial messages are one thing, but premarital interdigitation? Horii would never!
>>502866937Paid like 2000 gold for some PJs for Thief.
>>502867154If they're comfy then it's not gold wasted.
>>502832285Sometime after you get the group heal.
>>502867154it may have been a waste but think of all the money you have saved by visiting your mother when you need a little rest
>>502866375Funny, every day I think about 16 year old female Loto taking advantage of all the naive bumpkins she encounters out in the sticks. Also it’s obvious to me at least that she finger blasted the queens of Isis and Romaria in the GBC version.
>>502865316Dammit, that's like the 4th time my posts have been called cute. Only happens here, too.
>>502867995time to transition
>>502867995what can i say anon, you’re a real autist charmer
>>502868226Fuck that>>502868264T-Thanks
>>502868387too late anon. It's time for either mtf (male to female), or mtm (male to male via steroids and test)
>>502868387girls really like forearms you know and thick forearms are perfect for a warrior
I thought Orochi was going to be hard. She was pretty easy :3
Loving the gaem ^.^ I am buying all of the other Dragon Quest gaems :X
>15 hours in>already planning several other playthroughsI can see why this was one of the most influential games of all time, god damn
>>502871592Based3 is a great starting point4, or 11 might be a good next one but you can always decide for yourself or based on the chart©®™btw is this the most updated version of this? I had to pull it from a while ago based on time stamps
>>502873521Check the OP dude
>>502637070I've been thinking on picking this up for the PS5. Watched a bit of Dunkey's video, looks like sprites for characters if you double up on the class? Is there a place where I can veiw all possible looks?
>>502874472Hair color can be changed with ~16 color options.
I have a difficult confession to make.I strongly prefer Serena over Veronica and Jade.
>>502875991Oh so you can customize them? Sign me the fuck up.
>>502876225It's fairly limited customization, but yeah
>>502876142Okay.
>>502876225there is also an npc you can go to that can change their appearance again if you want to try something else, also one for names too
What should each class change to?Warrior to ?Priest to ?Mage to ?Thief to ?Clown to ?
>>502876504You can change them to anything, or you don't have to change them at all. Please follow your heart.
>>502876142what about elfondo?
For Me?Its Sage
that secret spot NE of wayfarers chapel, what time of day should it be? I swear I'm going insane on this one.
Aside from being retarded can someone explain to me why I keep reading about people being confused or stuck on where to go when the game gives you map markers, npcs direct you, cutscenes direct you to exactly where and when you need to go somewhere. What the fuck are people doing? skipping everything? turning off map markers to seem pro but then needing it anyway?
>>502878021I don't get the decision to turn off map markers. I've beaten the game half a dozen times across other versions before this one and I'm playing on draconian now but I still left quest markers on so I don't have to play the map so much and reference recall. Picking up extra experience fumbling around is going to make the game a lot easier than pushing towards your objectives and the game opens up enough after the boat that you're best off following NPC directions anyways. It just seems like needless tedium to delete your markers and you're incentivzed to fuck off from the direct trail for sparkles and monsters anyways.
>>502751603Came to ask the same thing.
>Getting into DQ3 again, spend six hours on it first night >catch some sort of disease, do not want to do anything for nearly a week after>now I'm in a muv luv moodIt's over...
I have a Vamp Thief and a Meathead Monster Wrangler.I want to change vocations to Warrior and Martial Artist.Initially was thinking Thief > Warrior so the warrior isn't super slow and MW > MA so the MW skills can take advantage of the MA's high attack, but swapping the classes works well too.Anyone wants to weigh in?
>>502879717Did you actually have a physical ailment for a week or was it mental?
>>502878021i turned map markers off and still have gotten everywhere i need to go, people are just dumb sometimes
>>502878543>but I still left quest markers on so I don't have to play the map so much and reference recallSome people like that. Don't forget the most passionate fans of III are mostly oldfags. Anons point is more that even with the markers people are getting confused.
>>502879810MW skills largely don't scale with attack or magic stats. MW>MA is still good, but its main purpose is to move healing and wild side onto the MA shell so that you can hit harder as an MA. There's no incentive to go deep if you're taking that path.There's not much to say about Thief>Warrior. It's fine, not bad, not good. Do it if you want a Warrior.
What do you anons usually do with your merchant once you get him back? Thinking of making mine a Thief. Cements the whole corruption arc.
>>502882004Oh I was under the impression they scaled with the stats, just the learning was tied to the amount of monsters. But yeah, the main point was giving the MA Wild Side anyway.I was just second-guessing myself on which was was better between that or just going Thief > MA to get MA that extra speed and utility.In that case Warrior would get MW's Wild Side and healing skills.
>>502882835I'm going the other way and making her my sage. Redemption arc, baby.
>>502876504This has been a paralyzing point for me now that I have my party of Hero/Thief/Mage/Cleric at lvl21. Knowing little about how class change works, my current plan is:>Thief => Monster Wrangler => Martial ArtistHigh Crits + Monster abilities. Thief part was a personal choice for early utility.>Mage => Sage => WarriorJack up the Wisdom/MP, learn all spells, then shift to all out Warrior towards end (not sure of this is actually a bad idea, and would like input from more seasoned players, please).>Cleric => Warrior => ThiefCleric support spells (Accelerate at the start of round), Warrior skills, topped off with Thief's natural Agility and seed farming (plus Thieves are my favorite archtype)Cannot stress that I'm kind of just guessing based on general progression info I managed to read. If this is bad, hopefully someone will call me retarded and I'll reconsider.
>>502882835I don't want to go that long without a party member. I recruited someone new and I left them with Patty.
>>502882835I haven't even started the quest yet, but once I get her back I'm going to make her a Priest. Basically the opposite end of your thought process. The whole ordeal humbled her.Maybe even change her personality from Show-off to Straight Arrow if I have a magazine or item for that, I don't know. I usually favor items for personality change so it's like the original personality is still there underneath.
what are some general reclassing tips? Is it really just collect some strong buff and utility skills and then swap to damage classes?
>>502883523I've seen a few anons talking about doing that and it'd seem like a nice idea. You get a boosted amount of exp and by then you "should" have a sage which would help make up the lack of a character.
Draconian bros, who was/has been the hardest boss for you in HD?
>>502883829Do whatever you think would be neat.
>>502883065another idea is to do both. merchant > thief > redeption class.I was thinking of doing that with martial artist being the final, but I'm the kind of autist who likes to do things evenly and I have no idea what I'd class my other two characters to.
Frankly I'm gooprised that so many people are leaving a spot open for merch.
>>502883305Pretty sure that any path can work. It all comes down to grind in the end.
>>502884958Yeah. I get the appeal but playing down a party member feels bad even if it is perfectly doable. Especially since your merchant will in most circumstances be gone for a part of the game where you can expect difficulty spikes.
>>502884256boss troll probably
>All those people worrying about reclassing when you really only need to do it for Sage
>>502884256So far one of the new bosses, the Garboyle. Three actions a turn and hits like a truck. I had to change all my equipment around. Genuinely harder than anything I ever did in previous versions of DQ3 (never did the post game on SNES).>>502885298I found boss troll to be a bit harder this time around too. Weirdly enough I think Orochi was much easier this time.
I'm thinking of doing a 3 thief party and stocking up on a trillion stat seeds. Is this clinically retarded?
>>502885678i replayed snes not that long ago and orochi was a big problem for me but i first tried her in hd2d
>>502885678NTA but I paralysis locked Orochi from full to nothing on my run on the first fight taking no damage, and the second one wasn't much harder. Boss Troll gave me some trouble though.Kandar 2 has been the only boss to actually force me to leave and make more preparations though. I did not have the tools for that fight at all when I ran into him and got totally checked.
>>502885903So they definitely made her easier then, it's not just me. It's funny because that fight in my very first playthrough of DQ3 taught me how important Bikill/Oomph was as a spell and now I think it almost trivializes the fight rather than putting you on par with the boss.
>>502885594I'm not getting a sage.
>>502886051>Kandar 2I thought that fight was fine but I could see someone getting jumped by that fight. My first death in HD was the new boss in the Pyramid. Had low MP and wasn't expecting a boss at all so I got wiped. Went back and owned him though second try.
Excuse me sirs but it's not "Kandar" but now Robbin' 'Ood. Please use the correct term. Thank you.-Local Eliza Ebenezer Carmichael
Does a monster revived by Zing count as a new monster exp wise?
>>502886436Excuse me ma'am but nobody gives a flying fuck. People here use whatever version of a name they want to use.
>>502887258Not in this game sadly.
>>502887258No.
Trying to get an idea of my pace. What level should I be at Garboyle?
>https://gamebanana.com/mods/555706Alright anons, it's more or less ready.>Female Warrior uncensored>Female Cleric uncensored>Boss Troll Uncensored>Male Cleric uncensored
>beat the game>credits roll>plays an ad to buy DQ1+2 remakesfuck you
>>502885728>Is this clinically retarded?Yes but people also run 3 Gadabouts. Knock yourself out.My retarded thing for this playthrough was that I insisted on making 4 party members because of the theme naming I decided and now I don't know what will be my final lineup. But I'm still far needing to make a decision since I'm only picking the extra party member up once I leave the Merchant to build the town and I'm still at Baharata.
>>502887879but where's the full script restoration?
Does anyone have a list of all the Warrior abilities are?
what does stamina do?
>>502887879>Didn't uncensor the Monster Wrangler
>enter pyramid >hey this is kinda easy>fire breath>fire breath>...>fire breath>ok that was harsh, but I bet this chest has something good>canniboxhow do I cope?
>>502888186There's like 5 people all working on their own. So who knows. The group that did the delocalized script for DW1-3 is dead so there's now way to contact them to use their script.
>>502888252
>Accidentally runs away from group of Metal Slimes>The Enemy Blocked the way!>All Metal Slimes run awayWhat the fuck? Let me run away then you mercury faggots.
>>502888840Don't worry, this is basically the shared DQ3HD experience.
>>502888840Wait til you meet Fire Breath's big brother, Inferno.
>>502889190You WILL watch us flee.
Ain't a goddess supposed to pop out of this fountain and offer me an axe or something? I swear it was like that in previous versions.
If your stats are cut in half, would it theoretically be better to class change as late as possible for the most points to cross over? Or does Seed Farming towards end game completely eliminate this issue?
>>502891973You need to use the fading jenny then redrop the axe by the water. Reward is pretty eh though not worth going back.Nothing. That wasn't a thing.
>>502892284Stats kind of scale so if one gets too high at a low level you just don't gain anything.
>>502892456Gotcha. Was the previous poster looking to do Mage > Sage > Warrior, and hewr Warrior has no Wisdom Growth, so I wanted to jack it as high as possible ahead of time.
>>502882835You can get them back?
>>502860943its 9 fansim a 9 fan
>>502888243Anyone?
>>502893198https://game8.jp/dq3/142019I don't see enough art of the new class looks
Tips for farming luck seeds or seed farming in general?I want to solo Baramos if I can.
>Orochi wildfire>Tough but not bad>Inferno x 2What the fuck
Orochi can be paralyzed. Shocking stab makes the fight trivial.
>>502893753>he didn't cheese it with a paralysis attack every round
>>502894117That;s gotta be a glitch right? I wonder if poof works on Baramos still.
>>502893013Why cant we appreciate each others favs?
>>502887843At least 33
>>502894606As of the end of that fight all my party members are now level 28...
>>502896265As a follow up, I immediately revived them. Fully healed. Left the mountain and then had everyone but my sage get one-rounded by a random encounter. I have begun to suspect I am underlevelled.
>>502896265You're uh...kinda underleveled there friend. What have you been doing.
>>502896785Maybe Poof is his favorite spell.
Oh, I've seen this before! It's a garter, right? Yeah, a great little accessory, this...This little number will have you feeling like a real vamp if you wear it.By the way, this accessory can only be equipped by women.
>>502896759any encounter with multiple enemies with breath attacks is always huge danger
>>502896785Abusing kaclang, shocking slash and monster pile-on to get through every encounter. Only my sage is class changed but I'm probably going to need to give up on my thief soon and convert her into a soldier or something for bulk.
The Chiromancer is kicking my ass, I don't think I am high enough level yet.
>>502898090I've never seen him actually run out of MP but he seems to cycle between phases of attack and spells. Assuming you're running the dungeon on hero, you could pop kaclang until he oomphs and then do damage while he's on his physical attack phase. If you have enough anti-magic gear in your inventory I think you can switch between them to in order to keep up damage against his regen but I didn't hear about that strategy until after the fight so I haven't tried it.
>>502898261What do you mean on hero? Can you go with someone else?
What should I do first after getting the boat? I found the destroyed town and the Japanese town oh and the castle where I can,t go in cuz I'm a fucking peasant.
>>502898395Your party leader enters the dungeon.Your hero may not necessarily be your party leader.
Do we know yet if running increases the encounter rate?
>>502898882the lighthouse just south of where you got the ship will give you leads to explorefor a couple hints, go to the destroyed town at night, and something in Australia might help you get into that rude castle
no matter how much time passes i continue to get salty over thwack
So I finally got to Act 3 in DQ 11 It's really gonna be travel back in time? I legit thought Act 2 would be that instead of being like FF6. Apparently they did both?? I'm not even mad about it like some because I thought it was gonna be that after act 1.
>>502847028>sony is buying kadokawaPlease be a lie. So tired of sony ruining everything they touch lately....
>>502898090I had a rod that could be used as an item that would reflect magic for 3-4 turns.
>you can skip most of baramos's lair by just entering from the topholy based
wait baramos is easy af in this version
Heads up. There's a second words of wisdom you can obtain after getting the bird before doing Baramos nestled in the mountains southeast of sleepy town.
>>502905186There's a third one in Rimuldar
where is a good midgame place to grind in dq3 remake? I have the ship and the ultimate key but I keep getting filtered by theddon and gaia's navel
>>502906061What level are you?
>>502905186I already had two words of wisdom long before I even got the boat
>>502906296party is 20-25
>>502906437Where the fuck did you find the second
>>502906437Based cheat engine user
>>502906494Oh. I was much higher at that point. You may wanna go back to the tower and just watch a movie while grinding metal slimes or something if things have been too hard on you because the only other place you can grind comes later and will be much more difficult to deal with
>>502906607A secret spot maybe? Not sure honestly not sure since I didnt even know I had any until I tried changing vocations, it's how I got 3 sages super early.
>>502906061>gaia's navelthat's unironically the best place to grind for gaias navel. Just flee any fight with the hoods because they will fuck you up.
>>502906904That's not possible since there are only 3 words of wisdom in the game and there's no way to get 2 of them before getting the boat
>>502906904>not sure honestly not sureMan, maybe I should go see a doctor. Spent a lil too much time around paint fumes the past couple days...
>>502906904you can just change gadabouts into sages for free thoughbeit
>Have like 5 or 6 prayer rings>Still haven't broken anyFeels great being a luckGOD
>>502907007They must have added more then because I no joke had 3 sages before going back to portoga, Im on switch so I definitely didnt hack.
>>502907153Feels good to be a luckGOD>>502907175>They must have added more thenThey didn't. What classes did you change to Sage?
>>502907097One of the sages was a gadabout yes. When I first hit the abbey a couple days ago I posted about how I thought sage was some super secret class but my other vocations could become it for some reason, someone mentioned the book and when I checked I noticed I had 2, didnt think much of it because I didnt know there was a limited number of it
>>502907175>Im on switch so I definitely didnt hackHmmmm
>>502907269I changed a warrior, wrangler, and gadabout into sages>>502907424I dont know how to pirate stuff or mod my switch
>anon is the first person in the world to discover the super secret hidden Words of WisdomsBased, /dqg/ wins again!
>>502907651I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's hard to get information from the JP side, a lot of sites are limiting information they post until the 12th of December. There might be some extremely low drop rate on some specific monster and we probably only have like a thousand people seriously playing the game over here.
cant bunny hussy turn into sage for free?
>>502908020That's one of the perks of the Gadabout/Jester class, yeah. They can promote to sage without needing the sage book.
lol I just noticed that one of the dlc items was the words of wisdom. My bad bros.
i played for 14 hours today and 12 of them were just grinding
>>502908152I didn't get one, is it a switch only thing?
>>502908152Oh it's a collectors edition thing
He is the fucking strong
>>502908152Didn't beat the game
I killed a monster, therefore I didn't beat the game.I have to start over.
Why is the fight in Theddon so fucking hard bros? They summon more until the screen is full of enemies and they have a chance to paralyze and put to sleep, AND they know whack
Ah, quality YouTube advice...
>>502911203There was an anon on launch day trying to argue along the same lines while calling everyone else retards for saying he was stupid so apparently we're not much better.
:(
God, going back to Octopath 2 after playing this is rough. It looks awful, and I was never a fan to begin with.
>>502915578Damn
>>502905000What was your strat? I'm hard checked by him right now.
>>502917358NTA but I beat the shit out of him with 2 wranglers. 4x monster pile-on in one turn is fucking busted.
I can't be the only one getting Dragon Quest 2 PTSD from all the whack and thwack spam. It really hasnt been this bad and overused since DQ2 NES. As a DQ vet for 30 years, I've never had this level of struggle fuck to get through 3, but it really feels like they've overtuned some fights.
>>502918396Skill issue
>>502918396Use fizzle and pray, or use oomph on the hero while he has a boomerang and pray you go first
So far I've only seen metal slimes outside the Tower of Transcendence on the world map, not inside. Do they even appear there?
>>502917849you did not beat the game
>>502918757They spawn on the inside yeah. I've actually never run into one outside.
>>502918775You're right, Temple of Trials keeps kicking my ass
Where's the earliest LMS location?
When does bunny get her final skill? I’ve dragged her ass through the entire game.She’s level 44 now and still nothing.I’m beginning to suspect the final ??? in her list of skills is just her trolling me again. I have grown from hating her guts to waifuing her more than any other DQ girl though, so there’s that I suppose.
>>502919705Probably 45 or 48
>>502919705Mine is lvl 48 and she has it
>you don't have to have the Hero in your partyWhat the fuck I finished the game and only now realized this
>>502919705Apparently certain skills depend on level and on a certain stat being high enough.
>>502920208You can't do that until you finish the game anyways, it's mostly for the post-game dungeon.
I spent enough time on Baramos that honestly, I probably should've just grinded levels instead of breaking 3 prayer rings, burning my vamp book to open up a second accessory slot, and buying every anti-magic and anti-fire damage item available at this stage in the game.
>>502919229They're meant to be on 5F of the Tower of Transcendence but I can't see any.
>>502920469Don't blame yourself. Everytime Ive played this game for the last 30 years, generally I'd have downed baramous by level 30 with ease. It feels like this game changed the level scaling and its kinda throwing me off
How many do you think I'll actually be able to kill?
>>502920672I was worried about the difficulty since the first stretch of the game up to about Alltrades is easier than earlier versions but the spikes after the boat have been a pleasant surprise. Monster Wrangler being so ridiculously good carried me though, she was my sole damage dealer for the fight pushing 800 a turn. I didn't have AoE healing for this fight so I had to kaclang through the magic defense debuffs, move my meteorite to the sager to maintain magic barrier constantly and have two characters on healing and the thief constantly alternating between the now broken prayer rings and smokescreen to mitigate the physical attacks.I don't know how the fuck I'm going to clear him on my next run when I don't allow myself to use wrangler.
>Das rite, type-b, I fuddled yo azz>You ain’t wort no hunned gol’ >I am Lump Mage, da lovuh monstuh >You should be payin’ me, lil’ type-b>Shieeeet I get type-b like you all day, a dime a dozen>Here, here’s two gol’, go buy yo self some oomph powduh an’ keep it clean fo me next time
>>502919229As soon as you get the boat head to the western shore of the ‘North American’ continent. Head to the snowy area where Alaska would be. For best results farm at night. Earliest they appear in groups is the Maw of Necrogond.
>>502920469>accidentally cast bounce on hero>hero casts fullheal on himself>heals baramos to full (6400)loving every laugh
Is Gigaslash Wisdom or Strength based? I'm assuming strength since it's not a spell, right?
>>502922696Strength but it's awful, the thunder spell is stronger and costs less mp.
>>502911203>>502913004Wait, Genius is bad!?
Just started a Hero only run
>>502924751I've done it on GBC before but doing it on Draconian seems brutal here despite level up refills.
>>502873521i'm looking at these titles and i'm just questioning why they want such winded sub-titles. they're unnecessary and it seems to be purely a localization problem because jp seems to ever have "Dragon Warrior VII" why forego the simplicity?
>>502924301It's good for classes that have very high wisdom and low luck like sage.But I would still go with vamp since luck is pretty valuable and having a negative modifier to stamina is risky if you're new to the game.
Whack/Thwack spam is getting real old real fast. Modern devs cannot seem to design difficulty without cheap 1 shot mechanics that you can't control. Previous games never abused it this much.
>>502924301It's not exactly bad but it has penalties to all survivability stats which makes it extremely vulnerable to just exploding. The point is that the in-game tips on personalities are awful and deceptive and that if anyone tells you to reference them, they can't be trusted. Wit is a much safer big brain personality and you're probably best going on vamp as long as you have access to it if you don't have a clear plan on what you're doing.
>do the sleepy town/fairy village thing>they just tell me again that the magic key is in the desertokay, i already knew that, why is that part there?
>>502925886Just dev oversight. What I find interesting is if you go back there at night, they never sleep. I guess they've done enough sleeping for a lifetime.
>>502925886The presentation of the game makes it unclear but there's quite a bit of optional content. In the older versions it was harder to find your way through the game so they had an even larger amount of redundant reminders to point you back towards your main quest.
Do you still want your martial artist to be a woman due to gender specific armors?
>>502925268To be fair, I'd still say that's more of an old school difficulty thing. Modern difficulty is enemies taking 7000 hits to kill, possibly with an accompanying stagger mechanic.
>>502925019Well the subtitles went hand in hand with not having numbers at the end, because they didn't want to put people off by making them think they had to play all previous games. A lot of publishers think that. DQVIII dropped the number here but FFVII didn't and did far better anyway. Diablo 3 (first one to be on console so a new audience) also sort of hides the number in the logo design whereas 4 makes it really obvious.
it sure is weird how hard NA fumbled jrpgs in the early 90s and releasing Final Fantasy 1 then 4 as FF2 and 6 as FF3. And the thing is all anyone that addressing these games would just say "dragon quest 5" and so on. so I guess these titles are just localization tradition, huh?
>tfw got back to Alefgard Might sound a little gay, but I always get some shivers down my back when this happens. DQ1 was one of the first games I owned on my NES and so everything surrounding it for me has a lot of reverence.
>>502927595Never managed to wrap my head around how the two worlds being on top of one another could possibly work in a geographical sense.
It says I've rescued 25 monsters in Info, but I just went through them by talking to Monty and I have 26. I looked at a guide and went through all the ones I could have now (about to get the boat) and it's 27. I know the one I'm actually missing but there's this mysterious missing one on top of that.
So my thoughts on the remaster. I feel about this like I do the 3d remake of FF4. It wasn't bad, but modern takes to these older classic titles tend to do too much for my boomer tastes. This one isn't bad nor do I want anyone to think it's bad, because its not. But I feel like they took some liberties with the changes that were never made in previous releases. Things like reducing the amount of gold you get from battles to a mere pittance, increased usage of whack/thwack, enemies having more attacks per turn, etc. And I get these are offset by characters having more skills, etc. The modern version is more complex and the scaled balance to match. I, however, being the millennial boomer, still much prefer the SNES version. The balance of difficulty to simplicity was better IMO. This remake is good for a run through, but its been so much of a chore compared to the previous releases that a 2nd play through feels rather bad to consider. Maybe its just me and i'm set in my ways. But to me it kinda feels like they took something simple and made it overly complex comparatively. What are you guy's thoughts
>>502928116>I looked at a guide and went through all the ones I could have now (about to get the boat) and it's 27All of the monster lists out right now have a shit ton of errors
>>502925093Luck is more useful in the remake but mostly for physical attackers. Just run Wit instead.
>>502928576the most powerful postgame strat involves using two sage or mage for status effect so I would recommend prioritizing luck if you intend to play through the postgame
>>502928480I largely agree with your opinions, but the thing is that I've already replayed DQ3 so much that I'm really in the market for the extra layers the remake is adding. I don't think they're necessarily all good ideas, your criticisms are all fair, but DQ3 has been a truly solved game for a very long time and just adding more onto the familiar shell would've just had it all solved worked out instantly by comparing it to the 30 years of knowledge we already have.I'm not looking forward to having to collect monsters on replays on top of the mini medal hunt, but I'll put up with it. It's worth the class adjustments and new encounters to plan for to me.
>>502928482Yeah, figured it out. They had Fluffy and Raine mixed up. I also was missing two as well, so I made a mistake too. Man, I wish it marked on a map which ones you'd got. I'll do that myself from now on, keep a list.
Garboyle just handed me my ass at level 35. Normally I'm about to go after zoma at 35. Mind you this is with Magic armor on everyone. the shields that reduce magic damage, accessories that reduce magic damage, and fully buffed/debuffed throughout the fight. The boss just WOULD NOT DIE. ate through all 4 characters MP pools which are around 400 a piece. Hitting him for about 500 a round between everyone. Lasted about 20 rounds or so and he just outlived my resources. This remake is asking for way more grind than even the NES wanted out us. These overtuned bosses are really killing this game for me. Im really not interested in spending 3-4 hours grinding out 2 levels just to fight 1 boss. The NES wasn't even this cruel
I like that they made it look like the evil spirit possessing the cat in Ibis palace leaves after taunting the hero. I remember wasting a lot of time trying to come up with a solution thinking it was an optional thing to do back when I played on SNES. I assumed Ra's Mirror would solve stuff like it or the guy turned into a horse only to grow increasingly frustrated.
>>502928480I'd like it if there was an option to have all the monsters you tamed first time through to carry over to consequent playthroughs. But, if that seems too OP, then they're only unlocked when you get to the region they're in. It's just that you don't have to go to their little area, and wait for the right time of day if applicable. And yeah, the lack of money makes it really feel like you never want to buy anything. It would be nice if after you've completed it once, you can toggle things. So have more money per battle, import monsters or make it so the beast tamer just gets those skills by levelling, turn off multiple attacks for monsters, lower thwack usage, etc. Well, I guess mods can fix it on PC.
>>502929613To add to this. It really feels like everything in this game is designed around you having a monster wrangler in the party. I get its the new class and they want people to use it. But it really feels like the designed EVERYTHING around you using it and its required. Im just about ready to toss this game and go back to the SNES one where things were better balanced.
>>502929842You're allowed to carry an overpowered party member to another save file, they really should have made your monster collection transferrable. Big missed opportunity.
Do you guys just do one class change per character?
>>502929613What's your line up?
>>502930043Is stuff carried but not equipped transferred too? Because that's crazy if so.
>>502930167Hero, Fighter, Sage, PriestNot their first jobs, so they've had some stat boosts.
How broken would 3 MW be?
>>502930483Pretty busted but 2 MW and something that converts into sage is probably better. MW does fall off and you need the utility spells. The difference been having 1 MW and none is huge, but any more sees diminishing returns.
Slime for a new thread.
>>502930691When does MW falls off? It was still the top damage dealer on Baramos.
I'm tying myself in knots trying to figure out what I want to class change into. I have MW, thief, priest. I have one sage book so far.
>>502928874Optimized mages/sages are going to spend like 40+ levels in Gadabout for Channel Anger and the extra luck. Vamp
>>502931137honestly you could stop at lvl 31 since channel anger isn't really worth it
>>502929613Beyond insulatle being a must to keep up, it's not magic damage you're looking to reduce, it's fire damage. Use stuff that blocks fire and you should see a difference.
>>502931137Wonder if channel anger is even worth gunning for over picking up wild side much more easily. You can technically stack them and it's more efficient but if you're grinding out 100 levels you could surely quick kill bonus bosses on less optimized teams
Just beat it. I really loved this remake. Also, I'm guessing Xenlon isn't really canon, right? I mean since Erdrick is stuck in Alefgard. I still can't get over the fact that the mom is all alone now.
Do you think the hidden gravestone is a reference to Toriyama?
>constantly switching between my main save (post game), draconian save and hero-only saveHaven't had this much fun with video games in ages
All these chests behind store counters are driving me crazy. I NEED to see what's in them
>>502932552There's at least one place early on where you can.
The last ever /dqg/....
>>502637070>start finding monsters out in the wild like the アルミラージ (very OP), etc.>finally manage to beat the first rank of the Monster Arena>have to spend ages figuring out the right team configuration and when to change the monster's tactics for each battle in the 2nd rankVery kino to be honest, I am enjoying the Monster Arena. I ended up beating the 2nd rank with that bunny (Arumiraaji), a babble and a slime.
>>502931812I noticed hidden graves in a few of those hidden spots on the overworld, so not sure.
>>502927595I hate it because the king literally scams you into killing Zoma knowing full well you'll be trapped into his shithole of a kingdom with a fake sun forever
