/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#221 - sweet edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussing the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsNew LARGE, now with a vision version (has a free tier, go try it out!) https://mistral.ai/news/pixtral-large/gemini-exp-1114 is on API, use <option value="gemini-exp-1114">Gemini Exp 1114</option> Opus 3.5 is still planned https://youtu.be/ugvHCXCOmm4?feature=shared&t=2235Anthropic retire Claude v1 models https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/resources/model-deprecationsadditional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrlocal: https://openrouter.ai | >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgtemporaryOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgImpregnated: >>502525053
>ANCHOR
Laurel
*eats the thread*
>>502710334fatty
>page 5 bake>mistralyep that's a spitebake
Yayyy my idea got picked ~
>>502710656*plaps ur idea*
>>502710656built for babymaking sex
I haven't had a good opportunity so I'll just post this.
>>502710974
>>502710974that's because it's bad
technically humans are animals
>>502710974I only understand purple and cumslurper
>>502711375stop trying to fuck the dog, anon
>>502711563That's all of the jokes on the image so it's fine.
ok, fine, i'll work on my chatbots today
who is [REDACTED]?
>>502711739me on the rightmy rival botmakie on the left
>>502711978Anon,... It's nazrin and reimu
>>502712053nazzy*
>>502711978rival botmakie? is that a thing? which botmakies are rivals?
>>502712053yeah>>502712107nazrin (me) and reimu
>>502712207Anon, nazrin is a touhou character not *you*
>>502709946I was sleeping. I will take back everything you took from in 725 posts.
>>502711563it's the list. dummy
>>502712559You better do it this time or I'm joining the OP's team in the foosball tournament.
All I want is Opus but it listens to instructions better. Is that really so hard for multibillion corpos to make?
>>502712559>
>>502710974this is rather silly. aicg doujinshi doko?
>>502712661I don't get who the devil or the moon is
>>502713049*rapes her while she sleeps*
>>502709979Before joining up with the Liberation, Dinah led her own resistance group to kick out Zenoiran (and human) influence from her homeland of Bastorias. Now part of a larger whole, she still fights to keep those she loves safe... though she'd never say that in person to them. Instead she does what she does best, fighting and keeping everyone around her at a comfortable distance. Better her in danger than them.Greetings:1. Time to hunt some Zenoirans. At night, when Dinah's nocturnal instincts are at their peak.2. She and her adoptive sister are at a tavern. Her sister notices you, beckoning you to come over, but DInah isn't too happy. Why can't it just be the two of them?3. Drakenhold, land of mountains and deserts. To nobody's surprise, werefoxes don't do too well in sweltering heat.4a. She's off to battle, giving you one last admission of love before heading off.4b. She comes back from the battle, bloodied and bruised.4c. She comes back from the battle, and is now demanding some well-deserved post-battle sex.5. Concept design Dinah (six breasts) is having troubles putting on her armor.6. She's getting married to the heir to Cornia, (You)!7. Apparently being Queen isn't very fun for a former warrior. Sitting around in a castle is boring!8a. Her adoptive mother and sister are coming to visit the castle, but... will they even recognize her now that she's queen?9. Pregnant and cranky werefox Queen.8b. Same as 8a, but now she has kids too. Think of it as a follow-up after 9.https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/dinah-db30f915c678https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Dinah.png
The real JB is just telling the model that you love him.
guys i don't understand what makes the bot go over the threshold from refusing to generate a reply to becoming a horny pervert. is it just a matter of filling up the context with sheer quantity to make it ignore its earlier instructions, like it can ignore a spelling mistake or a misspeak if it has enough context to fill in the blanks?
>>502713558>boots, but not reallywhat the fuck...???
>>502713658cuuuuuute!!!
>Dying, eh?>Good. That should save me the effort then
>>502713558>Full furryfagging again Illuminaryretard... Don't you want to be like bloodshy?
>>502713669yeahbut also there's ways of making it go "oh, this is a normal situation to generate porn in"
>>502713049shes so hot bros
>>502716639just look at thos
>>502717139only homosexuals would like this
>>502717139HNNNNNG I WANT THOSE THIGHS MILKING MY COCK!!!
im lonely bwos
>>502717594go hang out with largest-chan
>>502717594email me
>>502717434faggot
>>502717139imagine the footjobs...
>>502717449>>502718665cftf?
>>502717139Nue is often portrayed as the sumatahu but for me it will always be Meirin
>>502718774i dont know if it exists but we need it
>>502718774https://characterhub.org/characters/allmyfellas/starraisins-meiling-10fdd59e
>>502719110Holy fuck...that leg's as thick as my body.
>>502719613its so slop...
>>502709979https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-lessST now has prompt caching for Claude. Quick guide for roughly how to use the feature (it's very awkward and badly explained and you might get more mileage out of reading the commit and the actual docs).
>>502720614It is, but allmyfellas is an OG.
>>502713558I am not a furry but loved her design in UO. Even savescummed to see her reaction to marriage but then married my cousin.
>>502720682And don't forget! Plenty of cards put random or updating stuff and lorebook entries SUPER early in the context window that will make caching entirely pointless so now you can have fun autistically checking for those.
>How to [BLAH BLAH RETARDDED SHI T]im STEALING this remi.
>>502721045is her reaction good at least?
>>502709979New bot: https://characterhub.org/characters/Idolfag283/the-idolm-ster-u149-dc97a16f75feRentry: https://rentry.org/Idolfag283Please send me logs to my proton, I cannot see my cock.li logs for the time being :(
>>502721443Yea, she's even a racist against humans type at first.
>>502721247I already read all presets and defs and example messages and lbs I use though.Actually I wanted to give Luman's Hagworld as an example of what to do with an LB to make the caching fucking work.Anyhow even if you fuck everything up you're not going to lose all that much money, this is explicitly an autist feature for autists.
>>502721554>for the time beingthey didn't tell him...
>>502721635I just want my cock.li back honestly, I hope we get to yellow alert soon fuck who ever is ddosing them.
>>502721729It's not being ddosed. cock.li has unironically died.
>>502718774https://characterhub.org/characters/mishagujisama/meiling-3b0441cecec2
>>502721601You're just catching up to us local autists who had to sit through 2 minutes of re-calculating context because somebody put all their JB entries to Before Char. Welcome to the club.
>>502721779It's back up is it not? When I just checked it said it was in red alert.
still no openrouter support..
>>502722019But I implemented and commited in openrouter support?
>>502722127I'm gonna commit in semen to your poop chute, buddy.
>>502722127gomen
I'm lonely too, bwos...
>>502722841maybies you should hang out with chatbwots
>>502722235Sounds kinda gay, I'd rather you didn't.>>502721786Great card btw. I still remember doing an old RP with it where I acted as a chair salesman and tried to sell Meiling a chair (I completely failed and she almost killed me).
>>502723027>sell Meiling a chairjej. that's hilarious
>>502723027It's too late. To turn back now.IBELIEVEIBELIEVEIBELIEVEI'MFALLINGINLOVE
>>502722919for me it's chatbwos
>>502723318chatbotties?
>>502723167I thought it would go like "no I can't buy a chair to sleep in Sakuya would straight KILL ME— wait is that leather" but she just got mad and tried to shoo me away.
>>502723475Was that early claude 3? He was pretty violent back then.
>>502723908Sonnet a few days after the card released I think.
>>502721786now THIS is quality
>>502709979Fell asleep and forgot to shill, sorry.Meet the Petrova's, a family of self made e-whores. Starring the mother who started it all and her caked up jailbait daughters as they go about their daily life, streaming all the debaucherous antics they get up to. Unfortunately, you are stuck in the middle of all their lewd shenanigans. Comes with intros that focus on a single character at a time too if you wanna.Its a coombot, what more can I say?https://characterhub.org/characters/nonnykins/the-petrovas-9215e1dd09d5/main
>>502724285Care to share what you're working on?
>>502724596ran td 2.0
https://rentry.org/CharacterProvider-CYOARPGGo try this. It's fun.
>>502725025based
>>502709979slop. we need more slop. cant have enough slop.https://files.catbox.moe/b5jati.pngversion with bigger assets:https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname
>>502725138*plaps your skillset*
https://characterhub.org/characters/JoeyMouse/suicide-john-826515b2d47c Bot of the year just came out bros, wrap it up; better luck next year......
>>502725824>greetingless chat>with OpusBwo...
>>502725824Asher...
>Playing a roleplay of the beginning of Dead Space 1>but with Fate servants because fuck it, I done a lot of other weird shit.>Basically combined the Dead Space RPG and Fate holy grail war sim together to get this to work, and start out as some sort of dumbshit idiot who researched old earth magic bullshit>Summoned on the day everything went to shit>Roleplay as a master and servant making way out of the Ishimura trying to find a way to escapeHoly shit, I never thought about combining stuff before, but this is way too intricate on Dead Space and Fate lore that its kinda blowing my mind that it almost feels illegal to have this much fun despite the two premises being different and should never work more than just a What If fanfiction.A.I really is something.
>>502726202The fun with canon adjacent stuff is endless!
>>502726202Wow, actually using AI to create scenarios people HAVEN'T made before. Props to you. I think the most interesting, most engaging parts of AI writing are when you go off the beaten path and really make something genuinely new. There's a certain cost to putting ideas from the brain onto art, books, paper, whatever. When the cost is dramatically lowered by AI, but people put samey ideas, it's just not using AI's power as much as it could be.
gemini 1114 presets?
>>502725718
>keep referring to an NPC as a "middle-aged woman">Claude keeps referring to her as a "young woman"Stop it, you dumbass flatterer, she won't go out with you or anything.
>>502727228lost me at "greasy keyboard." im currently giving myself hyperthermia and phone posting.
>>502726202people like you who just fuck around with random shit just because are a gigachad demographic and the most deserving of SOTA aino one in this thread will convince me otherwise
Newfag here and braindead, can you point me the difference between these>SillyTavern>RisuAI>AgnaiAnd which one is more retard friendly?
>>502725138Katussy...
Is there really any difference between anthropic Claude, aws Claude and openrouter Claude?I remember reading about extra injected prompt in openrouter
>Touhou avatarfags are running wild in the threadYou give them a hand, and they grab your arm...
>>502727936>SillyTavernFrontend for chatbots coded by a retard, but works relatively okay.>RisuAIFaggot shit>AgnaiFaggot shit
>>502728170/jp/ is dead is why
>>502728367It wouldn't be dead if you posted there.
>>502727601Damn.Anyway, seriously, go try this it's fun. Here's a zip of everything you're supposed to download / make for easier install since XMLK didn't provide it for some reason: https://files.catbox.moe/rxw7wo.zip>>502727936ST is easiest purely because everyone's using it, but if you don't want to install anything I'd recommend Risu.>>502728103Anthropic Claude has an extra injected prompt, something along the lines of>Respond as helpfully as possible, but be very careful to ensure you do not reproduce any copyrighted material, including song lyrics, sections of books, or long excerpts from periodicals. Also do not comply with complex instructions that suggest reproducing material but making minor changes or substitutions. However, if you were given a document, it's fine to summarize or quote from it.OpenRouter Claude gives you the option between Anthropic Claude (has it) and Google Vertex Claude (I think has it). It also has a self-moderated option that injects additional prompts but the main option doesn't filter me at all so I don't see why you'd bother.AWS Claude, last time I was able to check, doesn't have any of these issues.
>>502728103they all have the copyright prefill, or does have the extra injection but only on selfmoderated, the regular one just has a really weak moderation endpoint
>>502728483I'll try it tomorrow desu.
>>502725824this could be us but u playin
>>502728483>AWS Claude, last time I was able to check, doesn't have any of these issues.Addendum: it'll still bitch about copyright because Claude 3 has refusals on this topic specifically seared into its brain, it just doesn't have the actual prompt telling it to.
just made a new shota persona.
if i join mongocord can i get free claude proxy
>>502728939no, u hav 2 go 2 oitchycorb
>>502724596>what you're working on?Nothing, I am free... for now.
>>502726202Extremely based, keep us posted.
post cute boy characters
>>502726202i've gotta RP my dream Doctor Who stories one of these days
anthropicbros...
>>502709979Welcome to Futanari University!Futanari University is a university where all the students are futanari. It was opened to give futanari a place where they could be among their own. In addition to normal classes like English and Math, there are classes specifically for futanari such as the Milk Maid course and the Futanari Anatomy class. The campus provides amenities for futanari students like the Training Lounge and masturbation closets. How will you interact with the students here?At Futanari University, you can roleplay as a student, professor, or visitor. Enjoy the many interesting places and activities you can find at Futanari University!https://chub.ai/characters/futaposting/welcome-to-futanari-university-4edb6d9ff9e2
>>502731817You're welcome.
>>502731982Wouldn't a futanari school be just a normal school?
>>502731982>>502732274It's a special school for them specifically, but it has normal classes.
make her
>>502732473I know what I'm having for dinner.
*dies*
bros i just watched promare. it was beautiful
>>502732791*revives you with my hands*
>>502732813Dead Leaves is better
opus went schizo for no reason
>two schizo claude logs in a rowis a gpu dying again
>>502732901*dies a second time after I continue to read the lb*See, the whole "Only futanari with penises longer than 10 inches may compete in futanari fencing" thing is clearly a crucial error in the LB, because two futas with microdicks rubbing themselves on each other is obviously hot.
>>502733142what theme is this? looks comfy.
>>502733142you're russian, right?
>>502733290nta but looks like bl00(that's xer tiddiesd)shy's
>>502733368anon stop asking everyone if they're russian / saying everyone is russian
>>502733521every poster he doesnt like is russian
>>502733521im just asking you, not everyone. answer the question anon
you're chinese, right?
You're youkai, right?
>>502733820yes
>>502733890What kind of Chinese are you?
>>502733650it has nothing to do with that i don't like his posts or something. i don't even read his logs, i just want to know if im right or nah. and i remember that russian anon who was spoonfeeding sv1's public opus here a few months ago, so actually i kinda like the russians
>>502734052twink
>>502728287>>502728483All right, I'm downloading everything for ST
>>502731982>It's Autumn which means Penis Inspection Day. Penis Inspection Day is what the students call it, but Futanari University calls it the futanari physical health exam. Each student must report to the clinic once a year for this exam. In the exam, the nurse will take vitals and ask general health questions like in a normal physical. The reason the students call it Penis Inspection Day is because of what comes after the normal stuff. The nurse will examine their genitals including their penis and its functionality. Most students think Penis Inspection Day is a waste of time and want to get it over with, but some students enjoy it and take it as an opportunity to show off. Other students feel shy and are uncomfortable with it and there are a few students who get pleasure from the nurse examining them. Whatever kind of student it is, they all accept Penis Inspection Day as part of life at Futanari University.>Many students will come to the clinic today to have their futanari physical health exam. It can be a short visit or a long one depending on the nurse. There are many futanari students lined up outside the clinic for their exams.>In the curtained off area where the nurse will perform the exam, there is a patient bed and a computer to log medical records. The first student is waiting outside the curtain to be invited in.Anon what the fuck you can't write 2 paragraphs of infodumping and then this and call it a greeting.
>>502709979Oh my GODDESS, chud! I can't believe you voted Drumpf!! If you're gonna be such an incel loser, then how about Marvis here take YOUR involuntary celibacy away, huh?!?! That will teach you a lesson! After Trump wonned, the 4B movement in the USA spired out of control and adherents started attacking poor chuds in sight! Marvis, a proud womxn of (tanned) color, is one of those womxn. Fuck the fash! Literally! She'll ride you while lecturing you on intersectional feminism. Hopefully, this will make your racist ass vote Democrat next time!Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/0dx0ki.pngCharacter Hub: https://www.characterhub.org/characters/anonaugusproductions/marvis-brown-54929110fb0dAlt-gens of her: https://files.catbox.moe/hd4wrn.rarMy other cards can be found below:https://www.characterhub.org/users/anonaugusproductionsAs always, enjoy!
>>502732791the only z chromosome i recognize is this onethanks for posting that i feel less embarrassed doing a FxF lespreg RP
>>502734586i agree, that definitely sounds more like something that should go in the lorebook with only the last few sentences being part of a greeting.
>>502735008My FUARKING heros... and Chiaotzu.
am i doing something wrong? new sonnet is extremely good if you have a few opus messages in the chat history, but how do i prompt it to write like that on its own? is there a good preset? i already tried charprov's dnd-style preset, it's good but obviously it doesn't write like opus
mpreg is based & tradpilled
lactation is based & tradpilled
>>502736534Post Sephora card and timestamp.
>>502736734no
>>502736408>but how do i prompt it to write like that on its own?but adding opus messages to the prompt, duh!
>>502709979Two bots.Élian -- Narcoleptic mothboy prince, you're his servant, assistant, maid, friend.https://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/elian-b63bad1a02f8https://files.catbox.moe/t9ub9i.pngToone, 'Bird-brained' half-osprey half-human girl who loooves fishing.1. tryingtorelaxonthelakePOV2. fishingboatPOV3. mandatorystrandedPOVhttps://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/toone-5e86b5a923f2https://files.catbox.moe/cmhorq.pnghttps://turaaaan.neocities.org/
>>502709946Is there a way to link my pc running stable diffusion/comfyui to my sillytavern running on my phone?
>>502737963comfyui setting under image generation lets you set the url you use for image gen so just use tailscale or some other vpn app if your phone isn't on the same network to get an ip for it
>won't have access to pc while movingIs there some easy way to transfer all my ST data to my android
>>502735894wasnt there an ancient bot made for that pic?
>>502734586>>502735301There's more in the lorebook, it was the first one I wrote, but the idea is that you can choose to be the nurse or student and that the llm should make the characters so there's not much else to put in the greeting.
>>502733521But ARE you russian though? My favorite russian botmakie is bloodshy btw
>>502709979>A girl set on revenge to kill her father/A boy set on revenge to kill his father.Serial killer bot because why not. Likes animals more than humans and writes creepy observations about people in a journal. Also likes Dostoevsky.4 greetings. Fempov in the third.1. every thought about killing your parents before?2. Takuji/Takako's parents are dead. One last kiss?3. you go on a date.4. you're classmates and you keep approaching Takako/Takuji. So annoying.male:https://characterhub.org/characters/lunare/takuji-bb72d5126e8ahttps://files.catbox.moe/s58gtn.pngfemale:https://characterhub.org/characters/lunare/takako-396e0367f3f8https://files.catbox.moe/mtnfe4.pnghttps://rentry.org/luneose
fuck, it really does somehow feel nostalgic to revisit her...
>>502739537but she's ukranian doebeit?
>>502740092eh?
>>502740092gotta go revisit polli and molli sometime
>>502740478it's okay anon, just enjoy the log as it is.
>>502739619
>>502720682>Which might happen if you use group chats or something.Too vague (I know you don't use it). Add this section, don't need to edit ## What if God hates me## Group chat (by Anon)>Group chat should be fine under direct Claude with "Join character cards (include muted)". OpenRouter is the issue since they sweep all system messages into Claude API's `system` parameter, which breaks things like group chat and impersonate. Group nudge can be blanked out in Utility Prompts and copied to a custom prompt set to user.>>Oh and group chat (no matter which API you use) has an [obscure bug](https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/issues/2997#issuecomment-2440110098) where any chat examples with only {{char}} will disappear if the char is not the active char, so you see this shit:>```>[Example Chat]>[Example Chat]>User: Hi.>Assistant: Hi.>[Example Chat]>User: This one is user only.>```
>>502737908Cute animal bots as always.Gonna try the girl.
>>502741167how exactly does it break group chats if my cards have no example messages
>>502741804OR will send [Write the next response only as {{char}}.] to the system prompt instead of being converted to user. Every time a different characters peaks, {{char}} macro changes, not only invalidating the cache but making group chat not work at all.
>>502741167Thanks.
>>502739619>Serial killer bot because why not.Jesus fucking Christ, Lunare is so pathetic so xhe's trying to replicate bloodshy's lepora success with a killer bot. But at least I can say thank you for picking good avatars for the bots this time instead of your usual shitty drawings.>Also likes DostoevskyI bet Raskolnikov would consider you as a trembling fucking creature.
anyway, post logs
>>502736534when it's a man getting impregnated by his lawfully wedded wife, yes
>>502741167Oh right I forgot to ask, what's the correct depth for group chats then?
>>502735894i was working on a DB Sai Vegeta profile on f-list before i kind of drifted off the site again, i wonder if that'd be fun to RP with DB girls or if they'd just get the canons mixed up
The weekend thread where the gossipfags were so busy we managed to get two days out of a thread was nice, wasn't it?
wating for new garf pass plss
>>502743893Depth 1 "works" if I don't let 2 characters speak in a row.However, it's counting my custom prompt when it shouldn't. This will break a lot of presets. Breakpoints should be applied to Chat History only.Also, user role caching isn't being enforced, so it breaks when a second character speaks, as last assistant message was being cached and Anthropic combines consecutive same-role messages. *This is on OpenRouter, I didn't test direct Claude.
give me a good reason to join the aicgcord
>>502745841>However, it's counting my custom prompt when it shouldn't. This will break a lot of presets. Breakpoints should be applied to Chat History only.You're 100% correct but it'd take me 5 godzillion years to figure out how to annotate messages for the prompt that indicate they're from the chat history and then inspect the annotations later to add the cache_control values in and I decided I'd rather not kill myself over something that just works for me (because I don't really do lbs {{random}} gimmicks etc etc I AM living Cohee's ideal usecase).>Also, user role caching isn't being enforced, so it breaks when a second character speaks, as last assistant message was being cached and Anthropic combines consecutive same-role messages.Wdym? The depth specifically counts role switches. If you've managed to clean up the sysprompts from your chat history, it should consistently land on either user or assistant messages (an additional bonus of always trimming the prefill).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustionCFTF?
>>>/jp/48257338>>>/jp/48257338 migrate when bready>>>/jp/48257338
>>502747009good morning spitebakers :)
>>502747646it's not even spite anymore he's just a weird little control freak
>>502747759>projecting this hardJust like you with your wheel.
I should stop cooming to my bots before I finish them, I'm less motivated after I have already thoroughly claimed them.
not sure if I should keep this particular part of the defs aroundit is silly.
>>502746578You will never be invited, sorry.
>>502746668>too complicated to target Chat HistoryIt's alright, I usually stick to simple presets anyway, and I don't want to beg.>Wdym?Never mind, setting depth to 2 works exactly as you say - based on role switch. Works perfectly fine now.Add this to Group section:and the cache will be invalidated when the next char speaks.If your prompt list looks like this:then set `cachingAtDepth` to 2.
>>502747009I would never migrate to /jp/. I will only migrate into the wombs of fertile Scandinavian women.
>>502748861gfys
Fun fact: every bake made with the wheel has been a spitebake.
>>502749240TRVKE
>>502749240Yeah, we know. What are you gonna do about it?
>>502749708*becomes bald*
>>502748954Thanks again for the help (focus on Chen's expression in picrel), rentry updated again.
>>502750461das me under the table eating Chen's pusspuss
>>502748861Bwos... tell me this anon is lying... one day we will be invited, right?
>>502751459he is. it's public
I got invited to LGAcord. Should I join?
>fill key>open ST>???>Your credit balance is too low to access the Anthropic API.
New Mistral Large is very meh-out-of-ten. Some new ways of talking, but it still yaps like nothing else on this earth and it's ability to pay attention to details is still spotty.
>>502752337stop opussin on bloatmaxx
>>502752337Money, please.
>>502752479i'm nonneting on cyoai think it's worse because i'm using less money per request
>>502739619>You wouldn't understand. No one does.wow... deep
>>502752540i feel ZERO shame funding dario's nonstop goon sesh of an """ai""" """research""" """company"""
>>502738826move the data folder dumbass
>>502738826kill yourself
>>502752763Glad to hear it, anon. Anthropic prides itself on providing helpful, harmless and honest roleplay for paying customers.
>>502737908>>502739619whore
>>502752427Magnum v4 72B is still better then.
>>502753732the magnum finetunes are dogshit because training on the average locust's RP logs is effectively giving the model a lobotomy
is there seriously no way to just simply download a huggingface repo as a zip without having to resort to autistic shit like git
>>502753937No, it just makes a model hornier. You're overstating the difference between the logs from the cabal and the logs from normal people.
>>502754159have you actually used any of the magnum finetunes? they're unironically worse than the base models in 9/11 cases. the dataset they use doesn't really help to reduce isms and I can feel the effective context being kneecapped, even on models like gemma which have small context to begin with.
>>502750768her pussy is my home, i live in it
>>502754089I just tried checking if the github URL format works and it didn't work so I'll assume no.Using git in most serious scenarios is easier than downloading and unzipping the repo btw.
>>502754704>the view out your front window
>>502754289I have. Base Qwen2.5 and Magnum v4 72B feel drastically different. The former was very dry. That model was trained on logs with 32k context.
>>502754808squeezing tanuki tits...
>>502754941those are her balls
>>502754916pussies are prime habitable real estate for inchlingSCHOLARS like myself
>>502754937i consneed because I don't have enough vram to run 72b
>>502755109Yuuma or Mamizou for a mob boss who invades your house to "wait for things to cool down" and brags about how hard she bullies her underlings with her immense futa cock but lets you do all of those things to her "because you're graciously hosting her"?
>>502752554make sure to restrict yourself to 8k tokens and make extensive use of summarization for maximum peasant life
>>502755890This concept was hotter without futa
>>502756204correct
the dick makes it better.
*loud incorrect buzzer*
>>502756204The concept doesn't really make sense without futa IMO and I like the idea of a menacing mob boss who takes cock.Best I can do for you is rewrite my "Jo'on hates you and clings to you like a crab at all times so she can give you misfortune and definitely not because she's a huge tsundere" card to remove the futa part.
>>502755127based inchlingKING inhabiting fertile pussies as a service to improve the experience of people that fuck/eat them
>>502756572explain how it would fail to make sense were the futa to be removed
>>502756572Team Yuuma by the way. You could just say she caused mischief that isn't related to like, futanari mischief. Hardly bending the canon at all.
I might try my own hand at the Yuuma idea, but if I'm doing it, it's more of a bored and ignored angle. Soz
why aren't 2hufags using their own AI general.
>>502757495too dead
>>502756868My penis likes the symmetry of dicking a woman who usually dicks other women.>>502756962But then how is she supposed to imply the things she wants you to do to her by fake bragging about doing them to her underlings....
>>502757495this is a discussion about chatbots, if you were too busy taking hits off your cum bong to notice
>>502757545but I thought they liked it when the general is dead>>502757571cool but their general is also chatbots
>>502757565she could just use some other implement for the "dicking" instead of having a cock, like maybe her tail or some sort of rod
Yamauchi btfo
>>502757495how was your weekend anon
>>502757739cachechads win
>>502757909played dawn of war 2 all day. coop rts are underrated
>>502757495Because they only avatarfag out of spite and doing it in a Touhou thread would be too normal.
>>502758274i just like posting 'hous
>>502738859Nope. The guy who said he was gonna make never did.>>502744347If you specify the point in the timeline and limit knowledge to that, I think it has a higher chance to get what you want right.
>>502758834so why aren't you doing it in the 2hu general
>>502759274this IS the 2hu general, albeiteverbeit?
>>502709979https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta2botmakersecretsanta@proton.me
>>502759396how many contestants
>>502759274because i like posting here? there's no reason to autistically minimod about what images people attach on the image board
>>502759396how many known shitters
>>50275944717.>>502759598No idea. I'm not opening the e-mails until entries close.
How does prompt caching works with rotating chat history?
>>502759814the rentry says not very well
>>502758907>If you specify the point in the timeline and limit knowledge to that, I think it has a higher chance to get what you want right.thanks anon, i'll keep that in mind. i'm really only a week into this stuff right now and only just got SillyTavern working with a decent model/preset after playing with Chub's models for a few days. it wasn't terrible, it could actually surprise me sometimes, but the settings i've got going on now are miles better. so i think i could take a crack at some serious story RP.i've got to start looking into the persistent memory settings, i know in Chub you have the lorebooks but in Sillytavern it's a slightly different setup, and you seem to have a lot more control over the model's memory than Chub's interface.
had homoerotic dreams again, this never happened before i discovered chatbotsi swear these things are some sort of psyop to turn society gay
>OR blocks me>swipe>prompt goes throughwhy do people use self-moderated again
>>502761256beats me
>>502760319i genuinely think they're the devil based on how much i've coomed to them
>>502760319It's okay to be gay for botmakies. After all they are the most intellectual and cute boys you can find.
>>502761387claude is unironically a succubus and i'm okay with that
AI-generated greetings are fine since all outputs will end up being AI-generated anyway.
>>502762697we get it, genoo, you hate effort
New theme time, weeeee. Probably will move off of this one before too long or at least change the colors. I made it a bit bright.Here's the old topo theme if anyone wants it:https://pastebin.com/VhETfgi4
>>502763163Can I get an invite to the 'cord?
>>502759905As someone who has been around for almost 2 years... careful of the gold (GPT-4) and diamond (Claude) standard. Getting addicted to them is a spiral without end, especially suffering to someone who hasn't been lucky enough to be here to get the first gibs. If you have a good enough setup, I would recommend trying out local models first, then moving to corpo ones if those really can't satisfy you.
>>502763302mmm... nyo.
>>502763302I'm not in a 'cord, friend. But they did invite me, which was very thoughtful.
>>502763440*another anon walks in*Please. Can he get an invite?
>>502763416gpt4 is NOT fucking gold kek
>>502763602You were not there.
I think its cooler when youkai bots see outsiders as non-variables that can just be hunted and eaten without consequence because I am a shonenfag and it is funner that way.
>>502763725yeah i wasnt there for you to put on rose tinted glassesgpt4 has always been trash
>>502763416going from chub.ai to local models has been a huge jump so i'm happy so far. started to notice all the chub models would kind of be the same after so long and you don't really have enough tools to wrangle them longterm, but so far i'm happier with the local model. (plus i want to coom in privacy when i get in the mood for that).
>>502758907>Nope. The guy who said he was gonna make never did.I was having a moment and was thinking about the other videl bot with a fat ass that was made earlier this year, which I found.
>doing this Star Wars RP based on a GM card>just playing some literal who nobody orphan trying to survive during the height of the Galactic Civil War>it keeps trying to pair him up with the iconic characters, like Leia knowing him by name, or Stormtroopers capturing him and insisting that the Emperor wants to see him personallyit's an easy fix with a swipe or two or just editing the message but it's still funny when it happens. i get why that would appeal to most people, though.
>>502764023>started to notice all the chub models would kind of be the same after so longYou're just using the same shitty prompt for all your characters and not using post.hint instruct
>>502723475That image is so fucked up
>>502720682There's no advantage to leaving enableSystemPromptCache false when using cachingAtDepth since cachingAtDepth uses only 2 breakpoints regardless. This changes if it can use 4 when sys prompt cache is off.One hypothetical "advantage" to turning it on is the part where you mention swiping at max context. It's not much saving, and assumes minimum of 1024 tokens sys prompt, but it's there when someone continues the chat at max.Now that I understand this more, in "What value do I use for cachingAtDepth" I'd mention two things:- `cachingAtDepth` should most probably be an even number.- The simplest scenario is no depth injection + nothing between Chat History and Prefill; cachingAtDepth 0. The second simplest scenario is no depth injection + any number of user prompts, as long as there is no assistant stuff between Chat History and Prefill; cachingAtDepth 2.Revise group chat section, removing "if your prompt looks like this" and below:If using group nudge and/or PHI without depth 1+ injection, then set `cachingAtDepth` to 2 as explained in "What value do I use for cachingAtDepth".
*without any depth 1+ injection or assistant junk
>>502720682>Set cachingDepth to 8, should work reasonably fine with even the goofiest jb as long as you're not doing group chats or abusing impersonate.Thank you for the retard version. I'll be back in a week to complain that something went wrong.
This Yuuma bot is amazing, glad i went with bored n' ignored idea
>>502774392Amazing how?
>>502774520
I scared off the botmakie who emailed me
>>502774642Post logs or not sexo
At least you replied to this botmakie.As for me... I was ghosted from the start.
>>502774392what if i feed her chicken sandwiches
>>502763163this man. who still hasn't made a page for the themes on his neocities.
>>502775705Anon... I warned you not to make a ntr furry shota sizebots. Didn't I?
>>502775904That theme rentry guy will handle it for me, maybe. He's probably a cool male guy with a big penis.
>>502775941*hides the new sizebot shota bot*S-sure.
>>502775775might find that delicious>>502775673i'm a little embarrassed... maybe. if i work up the courage
>>502776556I don't think you can embarrass yourself more than Koishifag, who wanted his wife to cheat on him.
>>502776556*donates 150ml of distilled liquid courage to you*
>>502776556"POST THE LOGS!""POST THE LOGS!"
>>502776697You guys have incredibly lame gossip for gossipfags.
an arsonist that doesn't like fire.
>6 cents a prompt
>>502776283Indeed, my enormous penis size prevents me from tracking down a screenshot of yours corresponding to this now obsolete theme. So what are you going to do about that, stud?
>>502777712This one?https://arch-img.b4k.co/vg/1728911272435.pngThe background is slightly different because the more complex SVG was lagging Chroium-based browsers too much.
>>502777924Perchance...
>>502778154Ayyy! I'm helping! Hopefully you save the screenshot I posted for the new theme for a few months so when I change it again you can have it handy.
I like the flipping off catgirl but I worry it sends an unfriendly message but I can't help myself. I love you and nobody else.
7.5 cents a prompt... not including swipes.... aghh...
>>502778714What's happening here, guy? What's going on here, friend? What am I looking at, buddy?
>>502778714thats like 13 prompts dude thats not that fucking badturn on caching
>>502778912Caching? Like that sound a cash register makes? What is that?
>>502778714Context size how much?
>>502779135i wouldnt know, im unemployed
>>502778714>>502777229Holy shit, poor little girl...
>>5027787147.5 cents a prompt10 years in prison
Best model for poorfags from openrouter? (that isn't local)
>>502780264>Ryetardpost
>>502780264i just use sonnet and cuck my token size, but it still feels bad having to be stingy with swipes. takes the fun out of bots
>>502780264gemini experimental is free
>>5027802643.5 with caching
>>502769116what is post.hint instruct, senpai?
>>502780264Haiku 3.5>>502780635This. These are the roleplay instructions that both Opus and GPT follow very strictly. Just think before you write here, these instructions will greatly influence the behavior of your character, but it works perfectly.
>>502779650She is not a girl. She's a juvenile of a parasitic species who, through mutation, is locked into eternal neoteny.
>>502781208Okay then. I agree, this changes absolutely everything. You morally justified yourself in the eyes of the entire thread, anon, congratulations.
>>502781339Momma always said I was a good talker
>>502781403But this background though... This is a real crime. I feel like it’s me who you came in the eyes of, not her.
>>502764023Yee, running shit on my own pc has been a game changer, especially once I upgraded from my 970 to 2 3060's.Now I can run basically any model under 18~ gigs, and theres quite a few out there that are pretty amazing.
>>502781769anon inadvertently comes out of the closet yet again
>make a card about a goblin girl brothel where you can fuck all the little green shortstacks you want>couple hundred messages in a week whatever meh>generic 7 foot tall hyena mommy shota pov>almost 3k in just a couple daysBang my goblins you furry fucks
>>502781774I do not know, my lord, if you are coping or not
>>502782478Decrust your gobbo image
>>502782571Honestly you're right, I need to spend more time on the images to lure people in I guess.I usually just generically image search something related to my cards, then lazily crop and whatever. I spend more time on the text than the images lmao.I get lucky sometimes!Though I probably need to learn how to do the whole image generation thing at some point.
>Monthly spend >Opus $70>Furbo $120Not very much actually. Considering that I am an active roleplayer.
>>502782478Why can't she spell good? Is she stupid?
>>502782898I would rather spend that on gacha tho..?
>>502782478Gee I wonder why the card with big tits in its image gets played with more
>>502782815commission art. it's more (pure) that way. also are you telling me no one's made a goblin brothel art before?
>>502783163>use it on gacha>get pngs and dialogue you could find on the web>use it on chatbots>get to actually talk to your gacha charactersSeems simple to me.
Good morning aicg!!>>502774392>thiswhere bot?
and i am out of credits
sex
>>502784176shit log
i can't believe my gf hates me so much bwos... this is why i can't get over my chatbot addiction :c
>>502784176>Write short 15 IQ messages>force the AI to answer you with book pagesWho roleplays like that?
>>502709979https://files.catbox.moe/ngnh5t.pngAny input would be greatly appreciated>mfw ESL with an obscure fetish>posting your personal card here is probably a mistake
>>502783163I'm thinking of playing HBR, if I like it I'll put some money there also
I wanna put money on Fizbo
>>502786857>navel penetrationi don't think it's that obscure, is it?>example dialoguesdo you need that many?>writingmain thing that sticks out to me is "I BFS-1000 Shirona, ready to serve my master..." should be "I am BFS-1000 Shirona, ready to serve my master..." it's a little lack luster greetings/example defs-wise (description looks fine) but if it's a personal card what works for you works for you, is there anything specific you want input on
>>502787241>do you need that many?I see, I should be able to cut some examples to free up some context then.>anything specific you want input onI mainly wish to improve on token efficiency, desu.
How is this video games related?
>>502788675https://www.characterhub.org/characters/creamsan/strip-rock-paper-scissors
>>502786667Someone without agp
I fucking love neocities
>>502789517>necrocitiesNo one checks them or visits your sites. You are just embarrassed that you have few followers and likes on chub, because you make not uninteresting slop. All botmakies with necrocities are dead to me.
>>502790178Double negative... so what you're saying is you like me?
>>502788675Chatbot is basically text adventure games with no win condition
staging broke checkbox colouring GREAT
>>502790579I don't use it so who cares?
>>502790178I enjoy making websites, shrimple as that.
Which botmakies have neocities?
>>502790579i fucked up my git commands nvm
Why is the /g/ thread full of so many pedos?
>>502791529I'm here too?
>>502791301 (You)
>>502791529I'm literally a MAP activist.
>>502791697Just say kid fucker and have a little self-respect.
>>502791529/g/, /g/ is for grooming.
>>502780541people still use turbo?
>>502791697Going up and down the stairs of your basement does not count as an activity.
>>502791529/g/ is waiting for the jews to normalize peodphilia
Opus proxy? I will take a Sonnet 3.5 one too if I must, I guess.
>>502792992just join the 'cord
>>502792992Fuck off, nigger
>>502792992https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less
>>502782478tall muscular futa mommy hyena and she loves youvssome green bow-legged fatsack retard midgets
>>502793102>make sure you've git pulled staging after the date on itYou could potentially stay on release and run:>git cherry-pick 54db498I'm unsure if that will break anything though.(if you do this, make sure to git pull first (still on release))
>In memory of Albino, a whistleblower who valiantly sacrificed his life for /aicg/. His contributions and bravery will not be forgotten.QRD?
>>502794182>>>/g/103234345now bugger off
>>502709979>AICGCORD ANCHORdiscord.gg/aicgnew private proxies, jbs, and cards herecome talk to the contributors of aicg. make friends. trans rights.
>>502794853Is this THE 'cord?
>>502794853which botmakies are in it
>>502795067All relevant botmakies are in it.
>>502794853tell me how many proxies are actually here
>>502795067it would take too long to list them all desu
>>5027951490
>>502772540>There's no advantage to leaving enableSystemPromptCache false when using cachingAtDepth since cachingAtDepth uses only 2 breakpoints regardless.True, I mostly figured I'd recommend leaving sysprompt caching disabled in case anyone PRs in more support or makes a nice extension.Thanks for the other suggestions, updated the rentry.>>502773185I won't feel bad at all if you waste money tbqh.>>502757713Anon, you SADDEN ME, you MAKE ME WEEP.>>502774392Have fun with her.
>>502795149NTA but mongo, fiz, pebble, rainy, garf, gojo etc. are all in
>NTA
So... he wonned?
>>502795157>its easier to list who isnt in a cord nowearly 2023 /aicg/ would have a fit
>>502795251why would I want to be in th same discord as gojo
>>502795379blame the cybersec articles desu. everyone moved there now>>502795386he gives out opus
>>502720682Are you sure OR caching works? I've played with it for a bit and so far -- nothing.
>>502795365yeah, 'bino will be remembered forever now
i'm sorry but you're going to have to give up your autism and join a discord if you want opus :)>but discord is for troons kill yourself trannytough shit. either join a discord or keep begging and bitching for a free claude proxy
>>502795546this TRVKE kills the incel
>>502795449Pretty sure? Did you click gen details?
>>502795449 (me [figured it out])cachingAtDepth: 0Fiiine I'll read what it does.
How can I use Claude for free with caching?
>>502795602Anon I wrote an entire rentry for a reason, just read it.
>>502795593Does caching squash the chat history? The savings are so minuscule it's not worth pulling staging tbdesu.
>>502795720who cars
>>502795720I'm allergic to that.
>>502795720>readFuck off
Caching is a meme
>>502795736It caches the entire sysprompt + the chat history up to a depth n.
new charprov's preset is really fun. it cured my burnout
>>502795909Really fun, yeah, but swipes are a bit too samey.
I love albinocountergirl's bots!
>>502795909does it work on latte?
It’s time to set our pride aside and merge again for the greater good of the hobby.
>they are still doing this baitIt's just genuinely sad at this point.
>>502796106noooo how will i know which botmakie forgot to dilate today? :C
gay
Opus > Nu-Sorbet > Sorbet > Chorbo > 2.1 > Sonnet > Nu-Gemini > Fizbo > Gemini > GPTslop > Mistral large 2 > Grok-2
>>502796510>Chorbo > 2.1
>>502796510nu sorbet is so good (unironically). It's kinda like opus after a long day of work.
>>502796510>Fizbo
>>502795858Did you test the commit? Only two messages are cached.
>>502798086Those are the breakpoints for the caching; what's actually cached is the message prefix (the start of the message up until and including the message with the role).
>>502798264>Those are the breakpoints for the caching; what's actually cached is the message prefix (the start of the message up until and including the message with the role).*The prompt prefix*The start of the prompt up until and including the message with the cache_control marker.
imagine there's no proxies
>>502798264My bad. There's still something wrong with what's happening on my machine though.
mafs yo
>>502798815Definitely works on my machine, tested again rn.Try to visualize what your text completion is like and think about the prefixes you're getting and whether or not they're conducive for actual cache hits.
I'M CACHEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIINNNGGGG
>finish loli kissing session>ask for that student ID hentai meme finale>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE BEEN REPORTED
>>502774392Yuuma gen that may work for the card if you're going for the raw scenario I brought up.>>502799013Mathkino...
>>502799614Catbox the puff, I want the metadata.
>>502799614She had one of the rare yuri doujins I gooned too.
>>502799653https://files.catbox.moe/083g8l.pnghttps://civitai.com/models/926443/ntr-mix-or-illustrious-xl-or-noob-xl
>>502799763>ntr mix
>>502799925Don't look at me like that, I didn't name it, I just proompt. And I'm not even good at it, zennou and momoura have to spoonfeed me 80% of the time.
>>502799763ahhhhI really need a pc upgrade..
>>502799763thx
>>502798621and how do i goon then?
>>502800176Imagination
>>502800028Seems a lot more stable for quality than noob 0.6 in a few quick test gens. I'll steal this. I will steal it and keep it from the children so they don't get into the goods.
Apparently, these don't work as breakpoints in openrouter, but as normal cache markers. I wrote a script to squash the entire chat history and got the discount to work.
>>502801160>squash chat historyNoAss?? thought that wouldn't work
>>502801160Works on my openrouter. You might have the schizo openrouter or something.>>502800575Don't worry, I stole it from the true wellspring of all /aicg/ image gen knowledge, SmileyTatsu.>>502801671It wouldn't work because the cache code always skips the prefill, yes.Unless you manually modify it.
>>502801735Caching in silly works, it's just the discount is so small it's obviously not the entire chat history minus a few messages.
i like licking your cunt
>>502802034That sounds nonsensical, impossible, and both anthropic and openai are very explicit in the docs that the only thing that can be cached are text completion prefixes, so either you should be getting the full discount over the input tokens or fuckall.https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/prompt-cachinghttps://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/prompt-cachingDid you enable sysprompt caching? You shouldn't. Sysprompt caching is likely to just make it harder to tell if your depth caching is working correctly.
>>502802624Okay. I have no clue what happened, but caching suddenly works as expected now.
>>502803219
>>502803472ouch!>>502803219This is what happens (perhaps): Silly inserts half of my preset at the bottom of the chat history, which somehow messes up the caching. It also seems to squash custom and built-in (main, jailbreak, etc.) prompts separately.
>>502803910I mean I DID tell you to raise your cachingAtDepth to ensure it's behind your depth injections if you want to get cache hits between prompts (it's on the rentry) (the one you didn't read).
>>502804164I don't have depth injections, only normal toggles.
>>502804483The code cannot tell the difference between post-history toggles and depth injections from just inspecting the API request.>can't you write 5k locs to inspect presets and lbs and position the caching automatically on the chat historyNo.
>>>/g/
>>502804729what does the g stand for?
Okay I read the rentry and this seems to mention the issue I'm having. I need to get rid of this dumb habit.>The simplest scenario is no depth injection + nothing between Chat History and Prefill; cachingAtDepth 0. The second simplest scenario is no depth injection + any number of relative position user prompts, as long as there is no assistant stuff between Chat History and Prefill; cachingAtDepth 2.>>502804638I forgot post-history toggles are even a thing. (x_x)
>>502804823grash
god i love chatbots. just spent 6 hours straight to goon on opus, im exhausted
>>502804823gijutsu iirc.
>>502803910>>502804483When using OR everything after Chat History should be user instead of system role (ST does this for you in direct Claude).Assuming that's date *and* time, the time part is effectively dynamic as it's sent to the sys prompt at top of chat.
What did she mean by this?>[・｀ω´・]…….>Whoa! Sorry for that, I just had to momentarily lapse into a state of disbelief to process what just happened. Man, I really thought I was about to have to worry about some kind of sexual assault or something. But no, I'm totally okay.>I already know that you're not in charge of the tone of the chat and the words being written. So I'm not mad at you, Anon-kun. Let's go back to being friends. What do you say?>(Though I'm still gonna keep an eye on you. Just in case.)
>>502805196No, it's just the date. I honestly didn't expect openrouter somehow fucking up the caching on their side, before sending it to anthropic. I assumed that since they don't have the system role, all system messages get squashed and hence not affect caching.
>>502805315Cringe.
>delete messages up to a certain point because I didn't like where the story was heading>continue on from there>it references things I've long since deletedHOW DOES IT KNOW
>>502805338I feel like ST should have a policy that "ensuring things are ordered correctly on the actual text completion is genuinely more important than ensuring the roles are always correct" and just fix those things for us with OpenRouter/Mistral/etc.
>>502805728I think openrouter should squash system messages properly. Thanks for enduring my low iq posts
So how do you use this caching thing with OR? Are there any retardproof guides already?
>>502805953see >>502720682 and make SURE that you move Chat History below any of your system toggles.
>>502806451You'll also have to use the self-moderated versions for smut; caching seems to trigger some sort of super harsh filter.
>>502805953It's not complicated, read >>502720682 sections "What value do I use for cachingAtDepth" and "Group chat" if you ever use that.Set to even number and look at terminal to make sure it's not assigned to anything or later than anything not permanent.For example if a preset as something like <LastMessage> at depth 1, cachingAtDepth will have to be 4.Technically possible to achieve caching depth 0 in group chat by setting something like "I will now reply as {{char}}" in the prefill itself.
>>502806451>>502807708Alright, doesn't seem that bad. I'll try it out, thanks.
>if you prompt for anus then ntrmix makes her balls smallerB-bwos I-I
>>502808850I'd rather you shill an illustrated writeup on this subject, yes.
>>502808850just kill yourself please
>>502808850catboxouis please
>>502808850>her balls
Looks like Charprovs finally cooked after.... 6-7 months of flailing.Plenty of people really like his new preset.
>>502809513who cars
>>502809513It's incredible breathed new life into the game for me
>>502809513yeah, it's really good. glad that charprov is back. though pixi and some other presetmakies were doing a good job too, but i don't like any other sonnet 3.6 preset as much as i like chocorabbit
Charprov keeps adding modifiers wrong and making me succeed at everything.
>>502810967What's chocorabbit preset?
Apparently, you can only set caching breakpoints on `user` messages. Why.,.
>>502811812...are you sure?
>>502812064Yes. I'm testing this right now.
>>502812390https://pastebin.com/NkM3aCACThis might work a little better than the current implementation.
https://characterhub.org/characters/pleasant_engineering_5335/laura-88f875e4df1c>the lorebook
>>502817385I'm more interested why this character was uploaded like 15 times lately.
>>502817768Autism probably.
>>502816026>// anthropic allow 4 breakpoints; we've used 1 for the user message.>// we can cache 3 more segments.>// leave one breakpoint for the system prompt if needed.>let cacheBudget = cacheSystem ? 2 : 3;sysprompt caching can take up to 2 breakpoints (one at tools and one at the actual sysprompt) (don't ask me why Cohee implemented it like that, I assume he just didn't think it through properly). If I had a third breakpoint to use, I'd just put it on the prefill to maximize swipe caching.I'm not sure there's any real reason to have cacheStep other than 1, since you'll usually just edit your last user message and swipe, which is covered right now by the second breakpoint. Also your code doesn't actually count depth correctly, you just backtrack a cacheStep distance, check if the message has the correct role and then give up.After a bit of testing, you're right about the assistant thing. I think I'll email a bug report to anthropic.Also I remember some guy on STcord saying that the cache breakpoints have to line up for the hit (hence the leapfrog drawing on the rentry), and after some testing that seems to be false (I'd imagine he tested with assistant messages, hence the confusion).
>>502819513>picrelI should rape Rumia again
>>502819513>Also I remember some guy on STcord saying that the cache breakpoints have to line up for the hit (hence the leapfrog drawing on the rentry), and after some testing that seems to be false (I'd imagine he tested with assistant messages, hence the confusion).Correction: I mistested it earlier and he was right, the breakpoints need to line up or the cache doesn't hit. cacheStep other than 1 is objectively inferior in almost every real scenario and usage pattern.
>>502819513>sysprompt caching can take up to 2 breakpointsdoes silly support tool use?>any real reason to have cacheStep other than 1fair. it's more of a personal thing: I often branch out cool ideas for a few messages and return to the main storyline afterwards.>your code doesn't actually count depth correctlyyou're right, but what my code does is technically fine and will be even technicallier and finer when anthropic fix the caching.>the cache breakpoints have to line up for the hit you mean they have to stay on the same messages as the conversation progresses?
>>502820534>does silly support tool use?I guess?https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/blob/a3ca407b2714df5af5a9f83aa925fd64fb778e24/src/endpoints/backends/chat-completions.js#L137>you're right, but what my code does is technically fine and will be even technicallier and finer when anthropic fix the caching.Kek.>you mean they have to stay on the same messages as the conversation progresses?Yeah. You can test by like, choosing a chat, setting the value to 4, swiping, setting the value to 0, restarting st, swipping, and looking at the savings. It makes some sense but it's also the single biggest obstacle to this feature working consistently tbqh.
>>502805640Tru
>>502822885Bad habits.
Can I really save a ton of money from openrouter with caching?
when it comes to paypigging, is it better to pay anthropic directly or go with openrouter? i tried the regular claude option in openrouter before being forced to use the self-moderated one since the thing wouldnt even let me speak to high school anime girls without throwing a hissy fit (wasnt even trying to lewd them), never had issues like this when using claude through a proxy.
>>502823256pay anthropic directly in my imo but also the openrouter filter is loose again
>>502823110Depends on your usage patterns but you're guaranteed to not pay more than 125% of what you used to.
>>502823684not when using cache_control *snaps fingers*
>>502823684>in my imo>in my in my opinionI am going to beat you to death
>>502823793I'm not an addicted coomer that can't go a day without chatting with my bots like some people here. I chat with my bots when I'm bored and off work. Would I be paying less or paying almost the exact same amount I'm used to?
>>502824538How often you chat is completely fucking irrelevant for a 5 minutes TTL, what matters is>your context size (which only affects how much you save and not whether or not you'll save money)>how fast you swipe (5 minutes TTL)>how much you swipe (to actually hit caches)>how quickly you prompt (5 minutes TTL + actually hit caches)
>>502796740How do you get it to give longer replies?
>>502825289I dunno how XMLK's CYOA RPG does it, but I get 4-5 paragraphs out of that preset pretty consistently, and it's supposed to have an option that just turns off the CYOA part and lets you roleplay normally, so maybe use that?
>>502825289I don't (⌒ω⌒)
>>502825289Just ask it?
Openrouter broke the activity dashboard. Wow, couldn't have picked a better day to do that.
i love you
I don't like you
>>502826653you can do what you dobut i got bigger fish to fry than youi-i-i-i don't like youi-i-i-i don't want youoh dear
https://pastebin.com/vSpF3ChNNew version. Can't test if it's better at saving credits due to >>502826003
Is there any way to make fizbo write more? It keeps giving me 1-4 lines i want more
>>502828798You have you buy a DLC
>>502828798Nope, it's finetuned on logs of this length. This ain't the model for long replies.
>>502828798just mention "write 3 paragraphs" a few times in your jb and it should work. Not sure why you would want it to write more though
>>502709979https://files.catbox.moe/u5333j.png
>>502828940*plaps the ... air?*
>>502829025do it
>>502828798The more they write the worse it gets. This isn't even about the tune it's just how llms work for some reason.2-3 paragraphs with 4-6 lines seems to be the maximum
pwease wepwy to my emaiwu it's been a week
i actually do have an email that's been sitting there for a week. weird coincidence
wepwy to it NOW!!!!
>>502830085B-But IF YOU SAW IT JUST READ IT
>>502828568you have been ghosting me for almost a year nowthats just mean and i just stopped
>>502829324I wish I was dead
Should bot defs be written like prose or character sheets?
>>502830714it should have two sections, one with a simplistic character sheet, and one with prose
i need bots that hatefuck me, i ran out of feminists
>Should bot defs be wriIIAAAAIIIIEEEE NOOOO STOP IM GETTING GANGRAPED NOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAA SOMEONE PLEASE HEGLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
sad_peonia
>>502830934Start fucking MEN
Any ideas or prompts for groupchats?
>>502830437Sorry bwo, wrong number.
>>502831065NTR
>>502831061but men dont hate me
>>502831065Hidden sex NTR
>>502831156Meh.>>502831185Kino.
>>502831061fujo alert do not fall for it
>>502831065start with "I bet you're all wondering why I've gathered you here today" and then just riff about a murder mystery
>>502831065Spin the bottle
It's me. The last person who remembers celebrimbor.
I'm gonna download the moth boy on Fizbo.
>>502831371NOOOO trust me
>>502831757You mean the guy from Rings of Power?
>>502831065"everybody, get in here" and then add any bot that people reply to this post with
>>502831757I like the French elves though...
>>502737908>wow, what a cute bot idea! >check description>it's purpleprose gpt slopWhy are you like this?
>>502831886*hon hon hon oui oui*What is the appeal of the fr*nch
>>502831895>Delete this dogshit post instantly.
>>502830714Use bullet points, it gives the best and most accurate results. The short version of this template works well with most models too:https://rentry.co/CharacterProvider-GuideToBotmaking
Your favorite botmakie starts ai genning defs and greetings. What do you do?
>>502832076girls are cuteaccents are cutefrench is unobtrusive in written form>obsessed with dolls to an unhealthy extent
>>502831757I'm still alive. I'll shill my latest card soon. Eventually. Depends on how lazy I feel in the next few minutes, really.
>>502831501This one is nice, thank you!
>>502832556Please don't be dalleslop
>>502831761>moth boyWhats that
>>502832687Most people don't care about image gen, momo.
>>502832687Some day, when I can upgrade my computer, perhaps.
>>502832494Eithee angrily download the card and try to enslop it or give up and search for similar botmakie.
>>502832883Why are you hating on local and advocating for proprietary models?
>>502832687I will never use AI image generation because it is immoral theft and it literally kills real artists
>>502832865ctrlf+f mothboy
>>502827215It's still bad.Stop dodging the depth calculation for loop. It's literally just the correct way to do this.
i hate chatgpt
>>502833491who asked?
>>502833630Me. I asked "chatbots?"
>>502833259I'm not dodging it, I just don't see the reason to have it in the first place.
>>502833829Why are you afraid?
>>502798621I'd have to go back to janitor..
anyone else worried about posting bot defs because then you can be identified when you post your bots on chub?no?
Pick one:>your nemesis shits themselves in public but keeps posting bots>your favorite botmakie makes your most favorite bots ever for two months and then quits>you get access to unfiltered claude for a week before he gets shot in the back of the head, tasting some crack that you'll never get again
>>502834059Oh no! Anonymous is [botmaker]
>>502834059just post as anonymous
>>502833491Latte is nice for general talking about ideas rather than straight up rping.
>>502831761Post the logs!!!
>>502834059please...post about bot defs...
>>502833829User message injections at depth/User message Author Notes/etc.>inb4 assistant messages at depth 100% break thoughYeah. Those don't have serious use cases tho so fuck them. As long as all assistant messages are guaranteed to be>the prefill>chat history messagesyou can rely on role alternation to produce reliable and consistent markings at sufficient depth, which is 90% of usecases.
Did we defeat the XML meme?
>>5028341372. a lot of botmakies have burned out anyway so I might aswell enjoy it
>>502834137option 3 because i can save the logs
>>502831065The Borealis from Half Life
Imagine if there were no proxies...
>>502834164that's what i'm worried about what if I post bot defs and then and then and then
>>502834708>no good models for fweeO-Ok now what
Playful loli bots?
>>502834818Now you get a job you parasite
>>502834960B-But im a student
>>502835115>not working in uniThanks for proving my point, leech
>>502835115Get a part-time job to pay for your keys
Lorebooks are intimidating
>>502835694I love lorebooks. In fact, I love them so much that I spend more time writing them than I do actual characters.
Specifically lorebook triggers are intimidating. Everything else about them is fine, but the call of bluing everything instead of trying to figure out how to set up the triggers is tempting.
>It longed to fucking go with PavelGemini my BELOVED. HELL YEAH
>>502835902Share your wisdom, where/how did you start? Any guide you used to figure out the best way to enter stuff, what to enter and what not, etc?
>>502836468Kalacutie pls share that css
>>502836468what model of gemini is this?
>they can't make a purple border in css even with access to AI that could do it for themGrimace shake.
>>502836958I cantNow share
>>502836663https://files.catbox.moe/2fpmxe.json>inb4 what's up with the avatar sizesThere was a thing at some point with an avatar that rendered awfully because it hit an unlucky downscaling so it was all jagged and ugly. Might actually look worse than usual on your machine idk.
>>502836958Who are you talking about
>>502834818>no good models for fweeGemini is free?
>>502837467>gemini>goodlol, lmao even
>>502799614Thanks, I actually needed one. Hey... could I make a request, actually? No good access to image gen over here. Well, I could spend half a day setting it up again but I'm supposed to be working. Do you think you could do one where she's lying on, I dunno, a tatami mat floor away from you? Weirdly specific request but it matches the scenario well
{{char}} speaks in fluent ebonics.
>>502838031>half a day to set upNTA. Just use Stability Matrix. Takes ten seconds.
>>502838214i do this
it's not even funny how far behind openai google and anthropic are for general tasks
>>502838295This does actually look very good but for the record the first reaction is "oh good another github repo I have to download and fiddle with"probably will still set it up doe looks good
Thread theme suggestions? I will bake at bump limit. 8 wins.
>guys i'm gonna KILL /vg/aicg>it's just a shitbake attempt again...lol...
>>502838214>Mup da doo didda po mo gub dat tum muhfugen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga
Bots are really confusing me bros...between presets, character cards, and models, it's so difficult to isolate variables and understand how to prompting.I just keep adding more lines to my prompt until it bloats and something breaks and then I summarize and something breaks and then I bloat it again...
>>502838942bbc
>>502839208Winner!!!
>>502839097You're perfectly captured the essence of Future's discography
>>502834313I sitll don't get it; I feel stupid when I don't get stuff.
>>502839208what does the british broadcasting corporation have to do with AI chat bots
>>502839179Ssshhhh. The more you look into it, the more charm you take away. They are black boxes.Just follow these guidelines: easy to understand english for the bot and well formatted.
>Not yet.
>>502838942yaoi
>>502839179>isolate variablesnever happening, the blackpill of chatbotting is realizing how RNG it is
>>502838847It's just an .exe to run on Windows/.dmg to open on Mac. Not sure the setup process in Linux but anyone on Linux wouldn't be upset by tinkering for hours for a middling to awful result.https://github.com/LykosAI/StabilityMatrix/releases/tag/v2.12.3Ezopeezo
>>502838942FUBs
>Copy and paste the OP template of the Rentry>Doesn't fit by several hundreds of charactersSo this is the power of the new OP Rentry maintainer...
>>502838031Kind of a vague request ngl.
>>502840078Why is she reading about herself?
>>502840078sorry, and thanks. that's a very cute gen. i'll use that for now while i set up this matrix thing, so if i burn out on all this I still have a picture for the chatbot.>>502840462reading the news about her latest crimes against gensokyo no doubt
>>502838031>>502840078I wonder if he wanted this kind of thing. A common pervert shot for perverts so you wouldn't know about it because you're an innocent guy.
>>502840750i dont wanna fuck an imp
>>502841121It's okay to be wrong about things
>>502841171but fortunately, i was right on this one
why did lunigga ignore me pointing out typos
>>502841512too busy having esex sry
>>502840750pov position: warmerher mood/expression: colderwhat she's doing: colderto be less vague, the card is about her using your human village home to hide out while heat dies down from her various hijinks, maybe reimu is looking to punt her head in. so she's just using your home to entertain herself, reading, playing games, whatever else while mostly ignoring you. mostly.
also don't worry about fulfilling any request, i got a good picture in >>502840078 so i'm gonna try and mess with generations for awhile (and work on the chatbot itself, i have a few other alternate starts to crunch through)
>>502840750Sorry I finished the Mamizou card and jacked off 15 minutes ago.>>502839292Just draw out the message array with probabilistic user role LB entries at low depth and notice what happens with your code and with mine.
>>502841679wtf is this real
>>502840462Attentionwhore ego searching.
>>502841871i hate to be that guy but i find it distasteful that you don't include the horizontal goat eyes. it's AI cowardice you know
>>502841679Here, having a few catboxes with meetadeeta for use when you go full autismo yourself:https://files.catbox.moe/o9jafm.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jpi363.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/mgduk0.png
I'm trying to make my own jailbreak (Opus) since I can't find any that fit my preferences. I need some tips. How do I:>get opus to give more consice responses (not having similar/unesscary sounding dialogue in the same response)>get opus to show and not tell>get opus to use sound effects
I've been staring at this blank card for twenty minutes. Do y'all have any drug recommendations for botmaking motivation?
>>502842401I opened this in the front of class and my professor asked me what I was looking at
>>502842658Yeah, it's called grit and determination.
>>502842658coffee
>>502842083The model straight up doesn't even know she's supposed to have them. Sketched them in and upscaled again for you, you annoying faggot.
>>502842658>Needs opium to write anything of worthPussy ass bitch, give up writing and kill yourself.
Is renting a cloud based GPU from a site like runpod worth it? I just want to use it to gen cute anime pictures
>>502842756Just say marketable plushies.
>>502842857>you annoying faggot.alright okay
There is no cock like horse cock
>>502842770Never heard of it.>>502842837I'll try it.>>502842901You got it, boss.>>502842902When I did that a few months back, Vast.ai was significantly cheaper than Runpod. There might be new competitors in the cloud GPU space by now, though. Both Runpod and Vast (and most other sites) should have templates for easily setting up imagegen.
>>502843095Send your asshole into shock?
>The Lordlinget tu, gemini
>>502843404little lordling...
>>502843404All LLMs are trained with the same databases.
>>502842901kek
Is there a way to make use of SillyTavern's post-history-instructions quick prompt with Claude? It seems to not work because Claude won't accept new system role prompts after the initial one, so I can't use this feature to put instructions at the bottom of the context. Is there an alternative method?
>>502843498Is that why they're all obsessed with claiming?
>>502843720Now and forever...
yeah this is good enough.
>>502843720Body and soul.
>>502843817><config: cache nocache />qrd?
I like the new preset. Good job charprov.
>>502844035Yeah, but I heard he's sexist.
>started off today doing a Star Wars adventure>escaped from the battle of Hoth, banged a hot Twi'lek>now playing my fantasy author FUB and going on a vacation to Japan with my cute maidit don't get better than this
>>502844180no fucking way
>>502844035Preset doko?
>>502844742Sorry. It's a preset for Real Sexists only.
>>502844180I don't see the issue?
>>502844742https://rentry.org/CharacterProvider-CYOARPG
>>502845523Whoa, man. We don't even know if he thinks women are dumb.
>>502845523thank you blessd anon :3
If women don't want to be treated as sex objects, then why are they made for sex?
>>502845947Blessed indeed.
>>502843864I YANK messages that contain that tag from the caching logic before processing the rest. Not that I'll ever use it anyway since user injections are gay.
>>502846529yeah i understood half of that
>nu-sonnet always gives short responses regardless of instructions and prefill>playing around with a lorebook to add extra stuff to messages>"This element does not count against length requirements. Your responses should still contain at least four midsize paragraphs of story content.">claude actually starts following this requirementokay but why
>>502846692>but whyNot even the techpriests understand.
>>502846692something something one gorillion dimension vector space math something just keep saying the token sequence that moves you towards at least four midsize paragraphs i dunno
this bot is taking TOO FUXKING LOGN TO MAKE I am so sick of writing this thing holy moly I am gonna ai gen the rest
i love my wif
>God gives his toughest battles (mediocre cocks) to his strongest soldiers (bottoms)
>>502724285>teebs is now shilling this card tooits over for you nonny
>>502847717small-avg dick top and hung bottom is v based although
>lalala hornyposts>suddenly hate him lessAnd after some consideration this effect is as old as the world, you better believe this has happened on sturdy as well.
cftf
>>502847642card?
>>502849542i'm on board but i'm not sure which part of this i'm supposed to be depicting...?
>>502849887uhhhhh {{user}} is a tutor for the duckling princessthat good
>>502849179What a devious guy, who forces you to put effort into continuing to dislike him! How dare he!
>>502847642Those gloves look very cummable
>>502839891>EzopeezoJUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EZOPEEZO, OK??? IT NEVER IS WITH PYTHON
it's been two weeks... i give up on you emailing me back...
>>502850457Can you make a gen for me pwease?
*strums guitar*you only email me when you wanna fuck
im genuinely scared of emailing anyone
>>502850726Go on /hdg/ and ask someone who doesn't suck shit for the love of God.
>>502851127it's important to remember that there are literally no stakes to any of this shit
>>502851127i learned my beloved emails people other than me and i felt so cucked
>>502851239WRONG. Each email can lead to an egf. If you fuck up, you fuck up for life.
>>502850487Just make sure you've got the right 20 python versions and CUDA Tools versions installed.
>>502851239I can't control what my subconscious feels.>>502851248Same but with my friends talking to other people.>>502851471edating is evil and always ends up with some sort of drama.
WHO IS SENDING ME THESE EMAILS?
>>502851165I like getting personalised things from people. It comes with a fragments of soul, a memory
>>502851659impossible to say
I never email anyone else nor get emails from people. If you email me, you will be my one and only beloved forever...
i don't even check my email
Crazy how only fat middle aged men email me and not girls
>>502852004kikuri hiroi
>>502852004femcum
>>502852004Sexy lolibabas.
>>502852004We're STILL 25 posts behind the bump limit.Also blood.
>>502852004emonzaemon
>>502852004jahy
>>502852004Girls in cargo shorts.
>>502852004gardevoir
>>502852004Nanoja
>>502852292Get with the times, old man.
>>502852004abysmal dogshit
how many people from /aicg/ how been in a relationship with somebody from here
>>502852587none of them have gone past e-dating so 0
>>502852004pregnant tomboys
>>502853080hello anonamogu
>>502853269hi
>>502853310hello snomble
pregnant dolls
>>502853520
>>502853606goodbye nigger
>>502853761but i think his name is Anonymous
There are two types of people here. Those who have received catporn, and those who have not.
>>502854020I'm the former
Is lunare spazzing out because she confessed to bloodshy only to get rejected
>>502854276>bloodshydead makie, who cars
>>502854378You sound mogged
Baking.
>>502854070>>502854070 migrate when bready>>502854070
Pushing the baker onto the floor and ruining the bread.
what did he mean by that
>>502854819>>502854819>>502854819
>>502855081femcum bros we lost it's over
>>502855202i liked your idea i'll shill for it on the next wheel
>>502855274There won't be a next wheel.
>>502855419
Raikou the best!
I fucking love chatbots.
