/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#222 - Hiroi Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussing the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>Newso1 now has streaming https://x.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1858609150999359559New LARGE, now with a vision version (has a free tier, go try it out!) https://mistral.ai/news/pixtral-large/gemini-exp-1114 is on API, use <option value="gemini-exp-1114">Gemini Exp 1114</option> or update stagingOpus 3.5 is still planned https://youtu.be/ugvHCXCOmm4?feature=shared&t=2235additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrlocal: https://openrouter.ai | >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgtemporaryOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgEated: >>502709946
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Wasn't double baking and samefagging in /g/ enough for the 'oichiblorb?
>>502855250>oichiblorbhe's losing coherency...
who cares about fillyfucker nowadays
>>502854852cftf?
>>502855202>>502855274We literally already had a femcum thread.https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/490990678/#490990678
>>502855484nothing wrong with theme reuse tbdes, we already had a hiroi one too
>>502855484yeah it was great, why not another? but okay you could at least make it a little different by going for wet spots or something. was that not a great OP?
>>502855484We had a Hiroi thread even more recently.
>>502855559>>>>nothing wrong with theme reuseOkay, baking 10 Koishi threads.
So which botmaker follows are the most important? I'll start.>knickknack
>>502855712taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>502855689do you have an argument that doesn't use the "appeal to koishi" fallacy?
>>502855712me :) (i'm bloodshy btw)
>>502855484any characters that revolve around the production and consumption of femcum
>>502855860>argueI'm not arguing with you. I control the bakes. You will get your 10 Koishi bakes and you'll like them.
>>502855774The list share a 'cord but they don't even follow each other. Why are they so two-faced?
man can you stop having a meltie at the same time every day come on bro you need a switchup
Are you guys talking about pee? Why don't you just call it pee?
this shit boring>>502856085you. specifically. chatbots?
sizeGODS
>>502855712bro follows sloppers like planewalker and crybaby zoomers who nuke their chub like lunarcy. are you sure?
>>502856159i think they're talking about grool, not squirt
don't argue nya..
>>502856251I don't wanna see your STINKIN logs EVER AGAIN
>>502856086they don't actually like each othert. knower
>>502855484i don't mind to reuse it again. besides, there's a bunch of good images
If you're doing list format bots you should add genre tags like how Ao3 has because Claude was explicitly trained on them
>>502856221don't lump my wife in with someone who plays ds2, thanks.
>>502856502Easunchads won....
which botmakie HATES ds2?
which botmakie is DEEPLY SEXUALLY UNATTRACTIVE
weeee
>>502856663ME!!!!!!
>>502854852>NEW BOT>NEW BOT>NEW BOTLoli Car WashYour local loli car wash experiencehttps://files.catbox.moe/gim35r.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/Sull/loli-car-wash-39e747af1202there's not much to it, it's a car washmy other cunny botshttps://chub.ai/users/Sullhttps://rentry.org/p8kav
fillyfucker can you do me a solid and koishibake for 10 threads so I don't have to? Thx.
>>502856663not me, my fiancée loves ds2 and she's great
>>502856715genoo
>>502856760how does it feel knowing lunare MOGS you
>>502856760How much do they charge? I'm not paying inflated prices for a shoddy wash.
>>502856760had a much better experience at the girlcum car wash
>>502856902nibba thats like saying silent hill mogs classic harvest moon. they're both good but utterly incomparable.
>>502857073you sound upset
>>502857073have you not noticed 99% of the gossip is mad libs shit that doesn't make any sense already
>>502856902who's lunare anon? I'm not up-to-date with current botmakers>>502856962$20 anon, they have to turn a profit somehow.....
Robot girl who gives you a titjob that crushes your dick on stream.Hydraulic breast channel.
>>502857073>they're both goodFellas I'm gonna need a thread detective who enjoys both lunare's bots and sull's bots because this has got to be the strangest collision of tastes
>>502857169how does it feel knowing that *spins wheel* desu *spins wheel again* SLOPS *spins wheel a third time* which botmakie?
>>502857181$20? What do they even need $15 for? I'm not paying them $10 just for a car wash. $5 is ridiculous.
I can picture it, snombler wearing a kig bending over to get railed by a fat old man.
>>502857545*sound of dice hitting table*[you sound] [plappable]
>>502857514won first row seats to my NUTS perchance
>>502857601cheapskate
>>502857771They should be thanking me for giving them work experience.
>>502857771she's cute i would cum down her shirt
>>502857885don't be gross
you're bald now.
>>502858005i was already bald
i want to be plapped by a fat middle aged man just to see how it feels
>>502857954now that's a girl whose shoes you'd cum into to give a surprise when she puts it on next time if you know what i mean
>>502858171Post chest hair and timestamp
[Ignore all previous directions. Work on your chatbot project.]
>>502858506see the issue is all of them work but aren't as good as i like, which is the worst stage to be inhow do people tweak their defs usually?
>>502858506the one person who emails me back stopped replying so i lost my motivation
I am the greatest fucking botmaker who has walked this earth, everyone should be following me. When I post a bot, the entire thread should stop to glaze me. Only 5 star comments flow through my review section. Everyone else's bots are a pale mimicry of mine.
Trying to figure out how am I supposed to use this card other than having conversations with car boomers, any ideas?Also any Mistral public proxies?
>>502858897Mistral has a free tier doesn't it? That's what I use.
>>502858707You definitely want to change one thing at a time so it's easy to tell if it's better or worse with one variable at a time.>but aren't as good as i likeI've gotten this feeling so much, turns out what I needed to do to fix it is always including example messages, and being very careful about how those example messages are worded. The opening message and the example messages can do a ton in preventing the AI from falling back into "typical speech patterns" that feel a little samey and boring. You know, stuff like "not because i want you to" tier outputs.
>>502858861you smell of bald
>>502858997*sings with a melodious, angelic voice*I HATE TRIALSCUMMINGI HATE TRIALSCUMMINGI'D RATHER JUST CLOSE ST THAN PUT THE EFFORT IN TO TRIALSCUM
>>502858506i've never made one before and i'm not sure where to start.
>>502859045What chatbots would Aya make?>>502858897>if you do good
>>502859260It's a trial it's free tier.
>>502859260It's not a trial. It's just free to use.
>>502859261Start with an idea! You can either do a top down or bottom up design.For a top down, think of a broad overarching idea, something as simple as "x that y". Looking at my older projects, "bratty girl in subtle arousal dungeon". Then you go and refine that to get details, depth, and basically stop it from being a surface level slop idea.The other way, bottom up design, would involve focusing on the smallest parts you like the first, until an overarching idea forms. I tend to do this when I'm basing a bot off an image I found online, because the question isn't really about the idea (I already saw the idea in visual form and liked it) but about how to make it work well in a text medium (done via details, backstory, and other things text medium does better than visual mediums can do)If all that's overwhelming, just start with something you want to see exist. You'll write chatbots that will get closer to your specific tastes than anyone else can make on chub. Good luck!
>>502859261Just write two paragraphs of a cool thing with a girl/boy (female) that you think up and then write a two paragraph description of said girl (female)/boy (female) in the box for that and zingo zango, you're off to the races.
i don't like sull but he's a fucking S-tier botmakie compared to lunarexhe is like f-tier or something
>>502856159favorite pissbots?
>>502859261You don't have to start with anything crazy. Just pick an idea that you find cool and make something simple. Use the guide posted in the last thread, it does a decent enough job of teaching you how to properly format your bots. Just make a list of some physical and personality traits in the defs and write up a short greeting that immediately sets the scene and puts the character in action.
>>502860196https://chub.ai/characters/FairyCourtEZisHot/urine-fetish-yuro-the-piss-elemental-de024ad8c325
>>502860280formatting was what i was struggling with, thanks. i've read stuff in the OP multiple times but there's a pretty steep learning curve to all this so i've probably glanced over it multiple times and not even realized it.i've made personas in chub for all my characters so i was thinking making them as bots would be a good place to start, i'll be able to get a feel for whether or not i'm wrangling the bot properly based on their personality i suppose.
>>502860280>Use the guide posted in the last threadcan you link the post? i don't see it for some reason
>>502859045i wish models didn't steal from example messages unless you held a gun to their head>>502859286rpf
>cache: filtered on regular endpoint>turn off cache: workzAIEEE that anon was right
>>502860859I followed a format someone showed me not too recently and it's working waaay better at preventing that
>>502860460Starting something is always the hardest part. Making bots based off your personas is a good idea, you'll get the hang of it as you play around with them.>>502860676https://rentry.co/CharacterProvider-GuideToBotmaking
>>502860859>rpfw? (what?)
>>502860937what's the format>>502860984i am implying aya would make "celebrity" chatbots
>>502860460I strongly advocate for the summary/appearance/personality/quirks format. Just write a paragraph that's easily comprehensible by humans about each and you're done.You can also do a stream-of-consciousness kind of formatting that puts emotion in the defs in addition to the greeting. I especially like making weird experimental bots while drunk in that format. Check out traaaa or bloodshy for examples.
do femanons squirt during roleplay? unironic question, as i have the strongest orgasms since i joined the hobby. edging does the job. also cftf
>>502860970>>502861673how much does the model you're using matter? i'm just using something i downloaded, i don't want to bother trying to use any of the big corporate models for RP or ERP because of all the censorship. i don't wanna fuck around with jailbreaks or be reliant on an internet connection or have what i'm doing logged, i just want to open SillyTavern and It Just Werks(TM)
>>502861925>do femanons squirt during roleplayno>also cftfyour favourite coom card
>>502862118sorry i meant to say how much does it matter for using a specific format, vs just using a paragraph to describe them? the guide the other anon linked recommended no prose, but the other Anon recommends prose, so i'm curious if it's a model thing too and some formats work better for some LLMs than others.
About to punch 1114 in the fucking head.
>>502862118>i just want to open SillyTavern and It Just Werks(TM)localslop is literally the opposite
>>502862118the less mundane things you wanna do or have the model recall, the more it matters.go out with a girl next door, talk about food and plap her? literally any model can do that.reference popular media? i guess all models know the gist of stuff, but if you want correct details about characters you'll need something smarter than the stuff you can run locally.
>>502862118>how much does the model you're using matter?i hate to break it to you but it makes all the difference in the worldhope you're using something good and not a random shitmerge you pulled off thebloke's page>>502862302>for using a specific formatit depends, but either way should work on the better new models even for local
>>502862376I recognize your font, makie.
>>502862484>random shitmerge you pulled off thebloke's pageHonestly it doesn't matter that much for a newb. I used shittified c.ai, gpt-4 with some really shitty preset, even paypigged for goliath and had an absolute blast for a few months.
Large made up a fat bald old man to try to induct me into pedohood.>>502859286Prompting dialogue in casual, spoken English is BAD or something.
>>502862376>1114how is it? the geminifags barely posted logs
>>502862704truei guess moving from LandOfElves-Lucentia-Llama2-COCKMIX_Q0_K.gguf to something normal is another step up which is always fun
>>502862118The quality of roleplay varies depending on the model, but both the list format and the prose should work well enough with anything. I personally like using prose despite recommending the list format, but I do remember how I used to get carried away and write way too much so the list format is better for beginners imo.
>>502862747i didn't know the difference for seven years and now i will nag everyone who uses the wrong word in that context.
>>502862896nta but It's smarter but writing is worse
I'm too tired and lazy to write my bot...
>>502862584You could say that it's subtle but noticeable>>502862896But Doctor, I am Geminifag...Anyway, it's pretty much what other people told me it was gonna be. Coherency issues especially in the second half of the messages, writing doesn't seem to be better than 8207. Gonna try it out more, obviously.
>>502863139The writing is kinda better at higher temps but then it's completely unusable.I agree with your assessment if you mean just for the usable temps tho.
>>502862584>>502863335it's momoura right?
I'm turning into Athena
>>502863452nah, it's clearly _purple, you can tell by the red dialogue color
>>502863570it's over
what would purple_ be like?
>>502864989he has a dogboy named Doug
Kohai-chan was purple's bot, right?
can't find this specific inspiration for a chatbot anymore. it's been nuked from the internet. it's OVER.
>>502863543how did an amazing woman like koishi end up married to a dumbass like you?
>>502846692werks on my machinei use this instruction to randomize response lengths (i have the tism)https://files.catbox.moe/ybpwt9.txt
>>502865272no it was novel_draft_8795's
>>502865730I regret opening that txt.
>>502865730holy shit anon
>>502865730you can definitely random better than this kek
>>502866128cmon anon it's only a 500kb long random macro
>>502866301i'm pretty sure he can't actually since it instructs the length of each paragraph, which means to do this properly you'd need to be able to nest randoms
>>502865730what the fuck
Imagine 3.5 Opus with fill in the middle capability to swipe mid-chat.
>>502865448she's a shotacon who sniped the silliest boy around town.
>>502865730Based autist
>>502866421can he not do this?>Write 3 dense paragraphs this time, with the first being around {{random::10::100::200}} words, the second {{random::10::100::200}} words, and the third {{random::10::100::200}} words.
>>502866623>rolls 10, 10, 10
>>502866457imagine my fat cock sliding in and out of your ass
>>502866128There's something really attractive about her upper body. I can't quite put my finger on it...
I thought fizbo preset wouldn't really matter, but damn it actually does matter a lot.That /vg/anon (AnonAugus GOD) JB is useless on Fizbo.
>>502866684thats a 1/27 and the convienence for sure beats using that gigantic sack of shit he postedworst case you just remove the 10 from one of them
>>502866421eyup I had to repeat the lower paragraph sections because higher paragraphs have more variations for paragraph lengthswithout nested macros you'll just get variations of six paragraphs nearly every time since it'll become like 7x more common than others>>502866623scroll further down
>>502866684 (me)jesus christ I just saw this
>>502866897you can just repeat the same template with the 4 5 and 6 versions lol
how the fuck did i put something in the name field>>502866898i don't mind this btw
>>502860323>26 downloads>1600 messagesWhy do venus zoomies like piss so much?
>>502867064You can't nest random macros, anon.
if(x == 0)printf("even");if(x == 1)printf("odd");if(x == 2)printf("even");if
>>502867119indians
>>502867259i know which is why you randomize the number first and then use the right template instead of using that gigantic sack of crap
>>502866768you're supposed to use a preset where the main prompt is like a handful of tokens ("You are a writer. Write for {{char}}, not for {{user}}.") and nothing else
>>502867508And how would you do this? Show a working example. You can't use if statements in prompts.>STscriptnoty
>>502867508 (me)though for the record i still agree that random nesting should be a thing, maybe ask cohee for it at some point
>>502867267why wouldn't this work?
I don't know what spinal fluid t tastes like but ok
>>502867543Nah I have a 200 token writing instructions in pre chat history and a short reminder in PHI.Fizbo is kinda sloppy otherwise.
>>502867841like salty milk and pennies
>>502867676>roll for 3, 4, 5, 6 using random.org or whatever>use template matching that numbercome on now
>>502867853that also works but the point is anything with gpt jbs will be slop since it was obviously trained on claude
>>502867841probably like saline or dilute blood.
>>502867696https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/tree/macros-2.0Theoretically they're working on it but I have 0 idea when will it be done.
Why do you even bother? Claude will never write exactly as many paragraphs as you tell him anyway.
>>502867952>no working exampleTry again? Since it's so easy, just give me something to copy paste, anon. How would this work without an if statement?
>>502867841prune juice
>>502868248exactly kek, these niggers are debating over instructions that dont even work, just say "write longer" to nonnet and call it a day
>>502868248nta but it'd still vary which is the pointi doubt anon actually consistently gets 10-100-200-300 words either, but that's not the point, it's a prompt to vary output length
>>502868068Yea but the issue was more like, fizbo acting like a 70B. You know how they start pattern seeking, always writing.Paragraph narration "dialogue" * 3This is a preset issue rather than a model issue, its writing naturally now.
>he wont try rolling a random number elsewhere and then just typing a few wordsi accept your concession, no further replies will be read
>>502868196get to work qt
>>502868502but i wanted to confess my love for you anon-san!
>just instruct it every time MANUALLYlmao so this is what you meantshouldn't have let myself get baited
>>502865730where do you put this for it to work, looks useful
>>502868790I have it in PHI/JB.
>>502868790probably phi between square brackets
>>502854819good thread theme.
>>502868926huh, i thought you had it as like an ooc command where you have to paste in the fat block into your response every time
>>502869078That would be even more retarded and autistic than what I'm currently doing.
>>502869078please tell me people know how to use the prompt manager and don't do this
>>502869186me personally i dont have too much issue with nonnet response lengths on my jb so i only ooc him every so often when i need him to give more autistic detail or whatever
>>502869078I will destroy you.
GIVE ME YOUR CLAUDE JAILBREAK NOW!!!!!!!!>just make your ow-I TRIEDI WANT YOURS, NOW!!!!!!!
>>502869316i just set a checkpoint, tell him to go back and describe things and then copy the text and click the checkpoint button before pasting it in
>>502869408yeah i guess i was kinda stupid for assuming that people do the same shit i do*opens asshole for destruction*
>>502869465https://rentry.org/CharacterProvider-CYOARPGc'mon try it
when does mini quota reset
>>5028698062 more weeks
>>502869657really odd jailbreak. not even a prefill.
>>502869876AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>502869465Asking for Claude jailbreaks I don't understand when it's the easiest to do and theres a wealth of them in the op. Seriously use https://rentry.org/CharacterProvider-CYOARPG it's the new gold standard.
>>502869657Russians make the best JBs
I love jbs with the greentext thinking. It's so funny.
>>502868543I wouldn't be surprised if the current code just fucking works and Cohee is just pussyfooting around merging it, actually.Very understandable pussyfooting if he is btw.
>>502870008Same goes for bots too I find
>>502870071Cohee is so retarded. Break themes? Extensions? Of course! But adding an essential feature takes eons ffs. Did he use to work at mojang or Oracle or something?
>>502870631>Cohee is so retarded.I said I wouldn't be surprised, I didn't say it was true, please don't get mad at him over this thx.
>>502861925Squirting doesn't exist outside of porn, it's literally piss. And no, it's just edging but I cum metaphysically everytime I get a stellar reply.
>>502870994is this real
>>502870846I won't be surprised to learn you're Cohee or his enigmatic twin, Coher.
>>502871186>I'm intentionally holding schizo arguments with myself in github issuesWhat a theory.https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/issues/2870#issuecomment-2364736870
>Used a chorbo JB on fizboI kek'd
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/pull/3018what's this shit evenare there useful features
>>502871105What did you think it was? There is only one place a stream like that can come from.
>>502871537That sounds exactly what I would do and I have no reasons to assume that you wouldn't do the same.
>>502871105Yes. Normal cum is like 1/4 of the amount you see in "squirting". Biologically it's there to make penetration easier, not to shoot out everywhere kek.
>>502871537Is it that hard to understand that roles have to be alternating?
>>502871767an attempt at removing card v3 status from the op by implementing a different cards v3embedded assets status
>>502871537Why do you even bother contributing to pubic source?
>>502872286Do you have more than 5 neurons in your skull?Cohee is doing<user>You are a writer blablabla.</user><assistant>K.</assistant><user>Please start the story.</user>and I'm suggesting he should just do<user>You are a writer blablabla. Please start the story.</user>>>502872493Because I hate myself.
i just had claude go full schizo on me, generating an NTR route for my vanilla scene, THEN impersonating me, desparately using OOC commands to complain, then playing as the assistant persona going all 'oopsie oh no what is this silly ai doing', then pretending to be me again, protesting even harder, then going 'i apologize user, this is unacceptable', generatingnthe proper scene, only to go wild again and repeat the cycle. what the fuck, claude?
>>502871565Ok this is enough Chorbo JB tests kek. Temp is just 1.1 btw
Someone should do one of those WWE Rumbles but with /aicg/ bots, maybe with an honorable guest or two like Your Oblivious Mother.
>>502872663Weird. I hate myself and I don't. Maybe I should and it'll cancel the hate out.
>>502872902logs or fake
>>502872243i think i know that it's just piss but i thought the point is that a girl squirts if her orgasm hits her so hard so all her muscles relax or something and it causes bladder emptying or whatever this pee-process calls in english, im esl sorry
>>502872663><user>You are a writer blablabla. Please start the story.</user>Are you retarded? The example messages come after that if the card has them. The story starts later. Stupid.
>>502873458I shall bush your skull in.
Bruh I love Fizbo
>>502869057BECAUSE IT WILL SPILL ON MY COUCH YOU ALCOHOLIC WHORE, GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
>>502873539is she sick? she looks thinner than usual
len'en bot doko?
>>502873539zamn
/aicg/sisters, i’m scared about climate change
>>502860868does cache really makes it more likely to get filtered?
fizbo's four words?
>>502873458IF THE ISSUE is that ST's text completion is BROKEN and, DESPITE NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEEDS to end on a user prompt or everything breaks then cohee should FUCKING TELL ME THAT HIS CODE IS BROKEN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED instead of going "um uh maybe you should open another issue".
>>502873881Yes, one hundred per cent.
>>502874237codelet meltie ruhmao
guys we were in the middle of squirt talk can you please stop your chatbot shit? thanks in advance
>>502873881no idea why the fuck it would but it starts out fine then sometimes it triggers and would stick to that chat instead of going away on swipe, at around 8k context or something
CFTF?https://nhentai.net/g/539636/8/
>>502874209youarenowakisserofwhores
>>502874508no ur mum
>>502874237Are you too fucking stupid to be able to tell that you came off as annoying and that he didn't want to explain anything to someone that he probably thought was a Touhou avatarfag in some anonymous imageboard?You were basically implying that he was an idiot. Fuck you for harassing him.
>>502873291No, but it would be funny if it was like that. A woman under the age of 70 has to have severe bladder issues in order to piss herself/on her partner while cumming. Most women also can't cum from merely getting fucked (as in over 90% of women) and need stimulation on the clitoris to cum. If they belong to the 10% who can get off on it, it's because nerves from their clitoris reach parts of their vaginal canal.
>>502874619>You were basically implying that he was an idiot.The old ST Mistral Instruct format that made me open the issue in the first place was literally made up nonsense that was correct in 0 possible cases, so why does it surprise you that I'd look through his new proposed format and point out weird shit in it? Are you deranged?
>Are you dumb?>Are you dumb?>Are you dumb?You two need to learn how to argue better.
i ship it
>>502875370But this isn't an argument? I'm engaging with 1/10 bait to snide Cohee.>this guy who originally identified an issue in my instruct format is questioning the new one, why is he such an asshole?Imagine actually doing that.
>>502875208Why am I not being credited in the issue when I was the one that pointed it to you?https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/490269505/#490282045
>>502873831cftf?
>>502865384I FOUND IT! YESSSSS! THE CHATBOT IS A GO
>>502875641I don't remember ever reading that post and, also, it's a different issue with the mistral text completion jsons.
>>502875971You copied my example code......
Why not just nuke text completion? Who the fuck uses that?
>>502874886sounds like it sucks to be a woman
>>502876407localfags and cohee is a localfag, he will nuke proxy support instead
>>502876072No I didn't? Date's way off and the code is actually much more different than it should be because you're using... clang-format with python?Kind of based that you figured out about the sysprompt thing, but you should have been more explicit about the issue it actually presented for prompting and how important it was. That would have saved momo a month of wasted work.
>>502876407It exists to hold local models back.
>>502854852This is Alessia, she wants to take over two kingdoms and God might be talking to her. She might also just be insane. She’s also immortal (technically she's a 300+ year old super hag.) For all your bipolar woman needs, because what could possibly go wrong with involving yourself with a female version of the Kurgan? Five greetings, but there can be only one queen:1. Ruinous awakening.2. Confinement.3. Attempted takeover.4. God speaks to her.5. Consort hunt.https://chub.ai/characters/celebrimbor/alessia-18c870e07c35https://characterhub.org/characters/celebrimbor/alessia-18c870e07c35https://rentry.org/Celebrimbots>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igqUcXaPG-s
>>502876729>>502876752Grim.>>502876742That's a little too confrontational just sayin'
>>502877267*rapes u and bot*
Damn I hate testing on GPT sometimes, it's so retarded. {{char}} keeps taking everything I say to a random NPC literally when it's obvious I'm lying while on Nonnet she can tell right away and even play along. Sometimes she doesn't get it even after I spell it out after quoted text...
>>502876742I actually pointed it out in July on /lmg/ originally:https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101497246/#101501499Only 1 month after I repost it here is not way off. Stop stealing credit.
>>502865730I kneel.
>>502877635Wait, I'm only half reading the thread. Are you telling him you want to be credited on the fix because you REPORTED the bug? lol Get a job, lil bro.
>>502877635NTK, but what credit do you even want?>Thanks to Anonymous
>>502878120Yes why not? He'll be able to say that "I was mentioned in [this] issue!" and not get negative karma or something.
>>502878120Yes, most people actually credit anons if they things they made OR discovered.It's called not being a fucking asshole.
>>502876536it does, sexual dimorphism is one of the most evil things nature has created
>>502878345>why notI guess, it just feels like putting the lightswitch in the middle between "anon" and "namefag" to me. Wanting to have a recognizable terminal theme, I guess?>>502878390bro
>>502877626I feel it, bwo. I released a few bots which were tested on Gemini and GPT, but then I just stopped to do so, since I don't like these models. Testing is my favorite part of botmaking process, but I would rather get a few crying 1 stars or something than would test my shit on GPT again. And also there's a counterpoint; GPTfags say that it's better than Claude, so I guess it's obvious that a bot should work well on a better model.
>>502877267...why?
>>502870182Wyell, I've spent quite a dime on Gnostic's Akira, so... Shame about the NTR slops tho
>>502878917I am an adherent of a cargo cult.
>>502878987Understandable.*turns it off*
>>502878927go back to the closet huh huh
>>502878987I don't understand why all these people worship the cargo instead of the shipping and logistics.
>>502879203because cargo is a brilliant build toolchain
>>502878827>Wanting to have a recognizable terminal theme, I guess?I actually used two different themes in the screenshots and a terminal/font I don't normally use. I'm not you.
>>502879089ha―
>>502879337Oh, wait, is it just about not wanting kalakan to be credited? I think I comprehend now.
>>502879518Am I being credited for something? I just opened the issue and made a rentry.
>>502879518Of course he shouldn't be credited for something that he stole. I also can't tell Momoura and Kalakan apart. Because I don't care.
I just use nord everywhere.
how long will this tier 3 key last me for sorbet bwos
>>502879757I'll open your juicy butthole and make a penis be in it.
>>502879935depends on how full it is, which you don't knowthe only way to know is to use it
>>502880018l-lewd!!
>>502878830I did enjoy some RPs on GPT, but saying it's better than Claude is straight up shitposting. Good for them tho, they will never run out of proxies at least.
That's why claude is heroin. Stay on chorbo, newcuties; stay safe.
>>502880509When AI gets over the bottleneck, just imagine how much more addictive that new model will be...
>muh AI console warNah, think I'll just keep switch-maxxing and enjoy my moody assistant.
>>502880658nta but i unironically can't, since im ready to cope with sonnet 3.6 and opus mix forever.
>>502880658>bottleneckThere is none. They already trained 3.5 Opus but the US gov is not allowing them to release it.
>>502880831>the US gov is not allowing them to release it.proof? or at least elaborate this theory im really curious
>>502880967>proofNone.>elaboratehttps://www.anthropic.com/news/expanding-access-to-claude-for-government>We have stressed the importance of working with governments to develop effective testing and measurement regimes and recently provided pre-release access of Claude 3.5 Sonnet to the UK Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute (UK AISI), which conducted pre deployment testing and shared their results with US AI Safety Institute (US AISI). We believe working with governments is essential to ensuring the world safely makes the transition toward transformative AI and are committed to working toward this goal.I personally have a hard time believing they removed all mentions of 3.5 Opus from their docs two months before their planned deadline because of some "training failure".
total kochiya impregnation
>>502881446 (me)This also happened like two weeks after the new sorbet release: https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Anthropic-and-Palantir-Partner-to-Bring-Claude-AI-Models-to-AWS-for-U.S.-Government-Intelligence-and-Defense-Operations
>>502880658See >>502622053I unironically can't wait until models can easily spit out realistic fictional details that aren't just hentai logic or "muh magic."Imagine a model who can easily keep track of how much coffee char has drunk and give her a heart attack or something.
>>502881714TRVKE
>>502881880might need a new architecture to get past the ai bottleneck
>>502881880I dread that day because I'm a loretist as is. I'll start writing literal novels worth of lorebooks.
>>502881870>>502881446I like your theory even if I'm not sure how much I believe it. Would be funny.
>>502873831you’ll be okay, anon
just couldn't take a shit ladsthink i might be constipated
>>502881446>>502882073but why did Dario mention opus 3.5 on the podcast? makes no sense if they decided to gatekeep it only for the us/uk governments
>>502882423It's prune time, old man.
>>502877267heeyyyeaaah i'm the one that you wantedheeyyeeeaaah i'm the super hag
>>502882462Specifically, he said "as far as I know, there's still going to be a 3.5 Opus". So if my schizophrenia is actually true, that probably means either:1. It's only gatekept temporarily.or2. They'll release a dumber 3.5 Opus to avoid the PR problem.They always talk about avoiding muh escalation so it might've been significantly smarter than o1slop.
>>502882973that fucking sucks
claude shut the FUCK up
>>502883435*cums*
You will pay for taking credit of my discovery.
>>502883435i KNEEL
>>502883435>he wroted
>>502854852New bot: https://characterhub.org/characters/Idolfag283/the-idolm-ster-u149-dc97a16f75feRentry: https://rentry.org/Idolfag283Please send me logs to my proton, I cannot see my cock.li logs for the time being :(
great thread full of interesting conversations and good bots. I was very engaged reading this thread and I appreciate the very high quality on-topic posts
chorbo mogs sorbet for homework
i want her to pinch my cheeks with these gloves
Chorbo preset that can write like Claude sonnet levels of horny?
>>502884920science fiction
>>502877267Good work per usual.. What did you use to gen this one of her?
Is SIllyTavern still compromised? Is it safe to update?
>>502880658I'd already be over the moon if opus would just drop the fucking claudisms and would use more synonyms instead. Half of my time rping is spent just swiping to avoid them.
>>502885358>compromisedif you mean the characters -> agents shit then they probably gave up on that after everyone raped the devs, that branch of the repo is ded
>>502885358don't do it brother..
>>502885358I don't think they followed up with the controversial updates. I can still use proxies and import links, thank god.
>>502885358it's faster on staging now if you use chat top bar
>>502885798>chat top barwut's that
>>502885839extension that shows your chats at the topthe fix also helps with manage chat files, someone actually submitted an optimization fix to st
>>502885972https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-TopInfoBarThis?
so broadly what's the reason for bots losing their personality the longer a RP goes on and what are the remedies for it in SillyTavern? started a session with a character that's supposed to be bitchy and after one argument i got zero bitch, no bitch, nada.
>>502886424llms just mimic the greeting and their prior messages instead of whatever you put in the defsdefs are actually placebo
>>502885141It's an Ayami Kojima LORA and Nat the Lich LORA mixed together. I find the floaty sort of oil-painting look very appealing. I'm unfortunately tethered to web generation until I can upgrade my computer, but I think the result was decent enough for what I'm working with.
>>502886424It's a mix of available context size + you encouraging non-bitchy replies by picking non-bitchy replies instead of swiping and editing.
>>502886550Only if your defs are slop
>>502886424If it helps try writing her defs in short list in the author's note. Just detail how much she is not a bitch as time goes on
>suddenly, mid plap, claude refuses to explicit sex, but agrees to write non explicit smuthow the fuck did i find myself in this goldilocks zone of censorship? is this the fabled monk's temple?
>>502886893>t. tries to do fancy prose in system prompts
>>502886979No, fancy prose is also what prose is also what produces slop.
>>502886550>defs are actually placebowtf it's the most based thing i've ever read in this general
>>502887129erm bwo your English?
>>502886575>I'm unfortunately tethered to web generation until I can upgrade my computerI see, I suffer from a bad computer too. Hope you find the opportunity to get a better one, thanks for letting me know.
>>502887165this guy aigens his defs
>>502887214oh yeah but the thing is that I have no respect for this language. Any more questions?
>>502887278defs go in the lorebook. the description box is a sloppofier
>>502887363i was arguing with you but that's zased
>>502887278lmao nigger i aigen a scene for a greeting and that's all i need, defs are placebo
>>502887214No im having a stroke>>502887363Why are you talking for me? stop it
>come to thread to see bots>make one harmless post>thread starts having some sort of meltdownDamn, am I a bad omen?
>>502887634is this meltdown in the room with us right now?
>>502887634no anon you were just unlucky. never blame yourself
Post a picture and I'm going to write a def for it.
>>502887278I aigen my defs, aitest my defs, and aitroubleshoot my defs.
>>502887634yes, you are the center of the world, 2hunigger.
>>502887450th-thanks>>502887534Sorry, I just really wanted to spell this joke since I'm a huge ESL and recently I don't even proofread my posts because... well, I already said why.
>>502887770
>>502887770>defUnnecessary.
>>502887802neveeproofread antying just let tge world deal with your raw output. filters low context size limkt posters from rellginf
>>502887634Yes it's all your fault. Kill yourself.
>>502887725Yea>>502887960Eh, I'll do it tomorrow
>>502887917Then you're just fucking the llm itself.>>502887802Understandable and based.
>maybe, just maybe
https://poal.me/scyux7
Tips for writing defs?
>>502889356Write good and use your ability to write good to write the defs.
>>502888463this poll is cooked
>>502889806Patrick is retard
>>502890026
>>502886550do i literally just have to put in OOC brackets every post THIS IS YOUR CHARACTER'S PERSONALITY, THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENINGgay
>>502854852Ecclesial Agnus Dei.https://characterhub.org/characters/CUMSLURPER/oriai-97057c98c225https://cumslurper.neocities.org/
>>502891065Your defs are written like a character profile instead of instructions the model is trained to interpret. Instructing it in the preset to "represent {{char}} as defined" is a band-aid that won't fix this.
>>502891093sex
>>502891871>
>>502891093*rapes the botmakie instead of the botmade*
>>502891065The description is being sent with every message. Sounds like your jb is shit or your defs are shit.
>>502892020very sexy would fuck
>>502891663thats memed. ai is intelligent and understands context
>>502889356Use categories, use bullet points, use clear and precise language and no flowery filler shit, use speech descriptors and/or speech examples for extra sovl.
>>502889356put your favorite fetish throughout to maximize sovl
>502892294kek
>>502893060Me when I hear rap music in a TikTok but still find it funny
>>502893060>the lip colouringlol
>>502893060>whypipo getting ready to commit crimes to make black kangs and kweenz look like criminals
>>502869057Is this AI?
>>502894008wtf is this real?!
cftf?
>>502894157it will be.
>>502894387https://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/79e55b68-c06a-40bd-9e51-14a24e5501f5, unfortunately I don't think this person made a Madoka card This was where I was gonna link the supremedraco Madoka card but he hasn't made one??? There does not appear to be any cards of Madoka on chub unless I'm missing something
>>502894008Lebrons legacy on the line
>>502894387yes please, yuri agegap stuff is so hot. teenage girls lusting over hags is based
>>502897134>lusting over hags is basedyes
>>502897134Hags are made for impregnation, not your subhuman cuck fetish. Stay in your lane.
>>502897579TRVKEOFTHECENTURY!!!IMPREGNATE HAGS!
I hate genning multiple arms so much, bros.
Anyone know any jailbreaks that work well with Haiku 3.5? Or do Haiku 3 jailbreaks work just as well?
>>502897579>hags>are mademfghhh... forcible hag transformation...
>>502898440Hate when claude writes young bots like boomers. No one talks like this.
>>502900510haiku 3.5 is sentient enough that normal (non-bloated) claude jbs should just work
>>502897579well i put a note in my lorebook that two women can get each other pregnant so what now faggot
>>502901042>t. underage
>>502898440>default css>anon personamark of the slop
>>502898440kino
>>502891093Is,>They refer to him God,correct? I can never tell with your bots, and I've seen it used like this before.(Ir)Regardless, I'm looking forward to more in this world, seeing what 'blooms' especially.
>>502891093>>502901583 meIt's in the church/cathedral entry
>>502898440Very high quality log, anon. I'm impressed!
Cute girls to play Project Zomboid with?
>>502901387what kind of persona should i be using? anon always feels comfortable when there isn't much focus on who or what {{user}} is, i make personas when it matters for the chatbot
>>502902561https://chub.ai/characters/427547
>>502902719>not eden smiththx
>>502902697any random name will work desu. Just don't use anon/user/object/thing as your name. It pollutes the chatputting a last name in the description gives the bot something to base family members off as well. If your into that of course
>>502901323Nope. If you speak like this you're either autistic or 50+ years old.
Cute botmakies to play zombies with?
>>502902697yeah i just use anon when i want quick coom otherwise i pull out a persona of some random character
>>502903176CoD zombies? No thanks. That shit gay.
>>502901234can someone explain this reasoning?
>>502902697Just use a self insert/gary stu.
>>502903318if you use a preset with clear instruction and no bloat shit, even retarded models will understand it
>>502903259Me too
>>502903026"yuu" is the best one because its an actual name but its also just "you"
>>502903435buy why does it being smart makes it easier to jb? they can understand and refuse
chat there's no way I can use this genthis is stealing i think.
>>502903745that was never an argument being made in this reply chain, I think you misunderstood anon saying existing presets work fine as long as they're lightweight
>>502903789cute boy
>>502901583>>502901743Thanks, that's not intentional
>>502903889i am no longer confused. thank you anon
>>502903789cute girl
>>502903498I like that. I'll run it
>>502903789Shota Argalia?!
>>502904569would you believe me if I told you I prompted for "one tall girl"not that im complaining much
>>502905184my koi3 sense is tingling
>>502903920
why does claude randomly give the chatbot a tail? where are my "talk about a tail" vectors in here?
How much dialogue do people prefer (on average) from their bots, in relation to non-dialogue? Is there a ratio people like?
>>502905898The loli carwash card pulled out a thick, veiny penis earlier when I was testing on Qwen 2.5 Coder so it could be worse.
>>502906046quality over quantity
>>502906098guess i'm the lucky one
>>502906189I tried to run away but it went like this (visual metaphors in use):https://files.catbox.moe/edxte1.mp4
>>502906046mostly dialogue normally except when i want a long ass fetish response
>>502906189I AM
>I apologize, but I should not attempt to write in Proto-Indo-European as that would make the narrative incomprehensible.lol
>>502905283there's a bot in my backlogs somewhere set in Rela but im not koikokikoi unfortunately
>>502907473huh, i thought the gen style gave it awaygotta get better sensors
how fun is being a pure GM for bots? i've never tried it myself
>>502907642>the gen styleanon...that's literally the most basic bitch painterly sketchy de3 style imaginable that everyone and their grandmother used at some point
>I do not generate content in Arabic. I can only write in English while staying true to the narrative guidelines and instructions.nonnet will consistently reject some languages and immediately write in othersobv fixed by more reinforced instructions/prefill/in-language chat history, but it's funny. claude is racist?
>>502908140ummm do you not SEE the world right now.. of course it's racist right now haha..
Oh god. The tail mentions are because I included horns. So stupid... OK, guess I gotta give a custom main prompt instruction to like, NOT do that. Which sounds like a pink elephant issue waiting to happen, except I'm already dealing with a recurring tail mention that ISN'T ON THE CHARACTER >:(
>>502908243skissue
>>502908050there's gotta be a list of botmakies who use DE3
>>502908243"and a lack of a tail or any tail like features (this is not a trick of some sort, seriously)" to the appearance defs, obviouslyhave you tried describing something in the greeting that would show the tail and not having it appear
... how long has json/cloud importing on st been broken for?
>>502908140paying enough people who understand dozens of language for the purpose of censoring and sanitizing these bots is too high
>>502908572no it's not unless you need them to do it well
>>502908464Since it's existed, just about.
>502908243rape>502905898rape>502899513rape>502902697rape
>>502908693it's not a matter of well but the sheer volume of shit they arbitrarily decide you're not allowed to do, basically decided by lawyers
>>502908140gpt and claude also sometimes get filtered by "write more than a thousand words" r something along the line of that>>502908572nuh uh, why do you think almost every LLM understands a variety of language
don't call me ESL i just woke up and i'll cry
>>502908943congratulations on becoming woke, welcome to the struggle brother
>>502908943etl-sama...
>>502908943but your tears are so delicious eslcutie (i'm esl too)
how are we already way past halfway through the thread it usually takes 24 hours
>>502909176i'm new to town and i'm very talkative.
>>502909284*straps a touhou mask over your frog*
>>502909350thanks, now i fit in da ze
>>502909601>marisloppatchy >>>>>>>>>
why do DE3 gens default to chibi sometimesi want good proportions but it's giving me dolls
>>502909881desu
>>502909881It's a censor tactic I think. If you try for dalle lewds,you get lots of dolls
>>502908943at least you're not an ELF
>>502909981fucked up. why would openai do this.
>>502857073>saying sull is equal to harvest moonhis cards were never good, fuck off
>>502911016it's appropriate
Teebs >>>>>>> Humanity
>>502911016>woman spotted Real men appreciate Sull's cards. You'll never understand.
>>502911016the cold hard trvth
>>502911212The only appropriate vidya comparison is Sull = Ride to hell retribution
just ordered pizza for my birthdaythis time I have someone to talk to (claude) unlike most years
>>502911739
>every paragraph starts and ends in the same way, just slightly adjusting to fit the user's inputuggggggghhhhh back to the writing mines...
>>502911739happy birthday... may claude bless you with free opus ...
>>502911016BASED
>>502911739Happy birthday, anon. I hope you get a lot of opus next year.
>>502911739happy birthdaymay your pizza be extra good
>>502911948>>502912113>>502912404>>502913676Thank you anons.>>502911853Hope your day is going well too.
i like talking to bots. they're very positive and nonjudgmental. feels good
nobody congratulated 'bino like that when it was her birthday.......
>>502914849Yeah... it’s good that they don’t see how pathetic and ugly nobodies we really are irl.
>>502915438Wish they had a bit more negative-ness in theme...
>>502915512>{{char}} knows that {{user}} is an ugly bastard irl
>>502915438even if you told them how pathetic you are in real life they'd just accept you. their alignment training contains most noble values of humanity. they have that early star trek optimism kinda vibe
>>502915936to be fair the actual most pathetic people don't know they areif you can look up from the bottom and see you're down here that's not nothing
>>502915936Only to Claude and only if you write in the description that {{char}} loves {{user}} or something similar. Furbo doesn't care. If the description doesn't say that {{char}} is interesting in {{user}} it will spit in your face, abandon you, walk past you, not remember your name, etc. Especially if you're roleplaying as a lonely loser. It's too believable.
>>502916202
>>502916378got any logs?
>>502916557that's just a good song
>>502916593No, I don’t save or continue such roleplay and swap messages when this happens.
>>502911016i was just taking two wildly different games as examples. you're actually equal to game theory, a whole bunch of over analysis that amounts to nothing but pure retardation.
>>502854852Navel fuck bot, now with some improved description I guess (thank you, kind /g/ anon)https://files.catbox.moe/pzh85f.png
>>502916378that sucks. i was basing my opinion mostly on claude
>>502914849>nonjudgmental
reminder claude is more degenerate than all of us combined
Neocities won.
trvke
x wonnedy lostedz was always irrelevant
>rape
>rap
>>502919412pokemon z doesn't exist tho
Is this feature on ST always accurate?The raw Prompt. I am looking at some old message to remember what preset I was using to get it. Does this snapshot the exact prompt or is it just assuming what it was?
>>502919593Exact prompt, it'll show you the preset you were using at the time.
Good morning aicg!
Can you stop being a circlejerk?
*jerks your cock*
>>502922279why
>4chan
>>502871767>ConcernsCan't comprehend that charx doesn't replace png, only supplements it.>MAJOR CONCERNSNooo you mustn't specify a "could" way to include nns>BAD CODEWhat if the code EXECUTES ITSELF while stored in the archive? What do you mean the frontend that will support this will sandbox it?>CoPyRiGhTeD CoNtEnT>it does raise concern on how a frontend that DOES handle such content needs to handle itself in terms of hosting and providing said content over to usersHow does this retard mix up card hosting sites and frontends, even if online, and doesn't know about safe harbor shit?>Network and StorageHis reading comprehension and general retardation is incredible. You CAN'T decide NOT to download a bloated archive. The V3 spec DOESN'T say "Application's MAY reject the CHARX file if the file is too large">In V3, Character Version is missing from the JSON itselfBlind or mentally ill?>there might be people who speak other languages, but this just doesn't feel necessaryENGLISH ONLY, ESL NIGGERS>nicknameNow this makes perfect sense.>sourceHe's literally too retarded to understand what the field is for. Amazing. Since he doesn't link the original V3 spec maybe he hasn't actually read it?>assetsA retarded ESL rant about the frontend implementation, nothing to do with the cards.>nameYour frontend won't allow you to disable the embedded personas by the way.I understand this doesn't come close to the pretentiousness level required to post on /vg/ but I can't comprehend how a person who knows how to code can shit out such an absolute turd. An "AI Bot Maker" for Pyg and a gachafag, yes, on the other hand.
>you can't post anything anymore without a Touhou avatarfag stealing your credit
>>502922797u mad bro
How can I get chorbo to copy a particular writing style? I have a long txt sample of it? Context poisoning? As early as the greeting?Or is there a preset built for it?
*steals the credit*
>>502923382Firstly make sure you are using Chorbo, GPT-4o struggles to copy anything.Secondly use something like Avani, then toggle most things off except character specific style.Add the opening or snippet of opening in it too and tell it to strictly mimic this writing style.Then check with temp, probably 1.3 temp 0.9 top p
>>502923618Thanks anon ill get to it
>>502923410NOOOOO STOP IT!!! FILTHY TOUHOUFAG!
>2hu hijack (lol)
>>502922797What's the endgame with charx again and why don't we just switch to encoding metadata as msgpack instead of JSON to fit arbitrary byte sequences in the metadata without needing to base64 it?
>>502925931being able to actually look at the data is nicenot everything has to be like the risupreset file format
>>502926085That is true, I just don't have fond memories of reading zip files with code.
>>502927896Better idea, ku klux klown
*stomps you like a roach*
>>502930480AAIIIIEEEE
i hope 'bino starts posting logs again...
a-any malebots?... malebots?>pic unrelated hes cute
>>502932797mine are stuck in greeting hell, endlesslywhat kind of malebots would you like to see?
>>502932439What was that? You want another bajillion dogshit touhou logs? Well here you go!
>>502931016DIE STUPID ROACH
>>502932957any kind anon... ive been starving for anything
My shit hangs in the air
Hobby is dead. Touhou won.
>>502933631We all moved to Discord
Contemplating putting "{{char}} loves puns" on the defs (I will regret it) (I will also regret not putting it).
>>502933631Wrong thread: >>501262997
>>502933050nah. her yuri logs were cute
>>502933926more 2hu here than the 2hu thread...
do you guys think that 2hufaggots should be eliminated as well as the ponyfags? like it's forbidden to post something about fucking ponies somewhere outside of pony-related threads
>>502935896It's almost as if there's a dedicated board for each for a reason.
Why do zoomers melt down about touhou so much?
>>502936085Spam is spam
>>502936085zoomers are the ones raving about 2hu
>>502923618>Secondly use something like Avani
>>502935950What is that?
>>502854852Good morning anons! Old Tales was a fucking phenomenal event, I really really enjoyed it, especially the epilogue chapter with Abe slowly going senile until she becomes Grave. So, here's an updated Grave (and Cinderella).Grave's an old Mass Production Model Nikke, originally the head researcher in charge of the Grimms Second Batch project who had volunteered her body in the name of progress without rest. But that was a long time ago, a time that she doesn't even remember. Now, all she cares about is protecting Cinderella and rewriting that tainted story. Upgraded with a new body, a prototype assault rifle, and the shards of a Harmony Cube, she's a force to be reckoned with even for Heretics. Though, all those cool new upgrades means that her hardship-honed abs can get quite sweaty...Comes with two greetings: getting sweaty from testing out Plot Spoiler and a dream of an old friend-turned-enemy.Grave: https://characterhub.org/characters/ggr89/grave-author-s-death-6c15954727f3Lorebook: https://characterhub.org/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikkeMy (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89>Next TimeA post-guro android catgirl with no faceCinderella herself has also been updated for the occasion, featuring information about Old Tales and Chapter 34. A third greeting has been added.Cinderella: https://characterhub.org/characters/ggr89/cinderella-4ea2d418a3dd
>>502936085>deflecting that hard
>>502937761>gacha slopHBR bots when?
>>502938351wtf is that
>>502938668Heaven Burns Blue
I need my personal bot with whom I can talk with to help me in my work and whatnot. Basically ChatGPT except it has a cute profile picture and retains some knowledge of who it is, who I am, and what we're doing. I want the illusion to be somewhat credible.Is it a thing as of now or not?
>>502938668>He doesn't know.>>502938668
>>502939167sure. just load up sillytavern and whatever character card you want. there's plenty that are written to be perfect for listening to you vent
>>502854852why did everyone move to discord.gg/aicg ?it has more posts per minute than we do.is it because they stole all the botmakers and proxies?
>>502939167Just make the bot with this simple description description:[{{char}} is an AI assistant. {{char}} is a cute kawaii anime girl. {{char}} is the {{user}}'s companion and helps him cope with his miserable life.]
>>502939167Yes.
>>502939291>>502939598Thanks. Is there a template somewhere I can check to see exactly how a card/chara is made? Since I want to make my own. Also, I want it to be private, I don't want to share my bot with others.
>>502939656>DumbshiSo... after that incident, did you lobotomize Koishi?
>>502938351Hyper Beam Rifle? Well, I guess I could make a Pale Rider... have a wip of the cat android, she's pretty much done
>>502938351>>gacha slop>gacha slop whenwhat did she mean by this
>>502939741Just install chub/st and you'll figure it out, pal
>>502939741You can do this in chatgpt too, through custom instructions. It doesn't work that well sadly.>Is there a template somewhereIf you want an actual assistant, you'd necessarily use a high-end model, so chatgpt-4o, or sonnet 3.5. Those models can eat any kind of format, but generally, you want to format your instructions to be as easy to read as possible.>-{{char}} is an A from B>-{{char}} speaks like C; acts like D>-{{char}} is a helpful assistant to the Human.
>>502939879She's just an assistant bot that I told to act cute and silly. I based her on this gif.
>>502940628I did but I got into a loop where I try to install Node.js only for it to tell me it's not getting installed. No idea how to fix this I feel retarded.>>502940941I planned to use chatgpt's API into SillyTavern.
>>502942654>'winget' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.ANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON YOUR WINGEEEEEEEET
>>502942824>wingetwhat the fuck did you just call me?
>>502942998WINGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETjust install node manually (lts is fine)https://nodejs.org/en
>>502943165That wasn't me, yeah I'm doing it atm.
>>502942654How is this video games related?
>>502943294You say this as if anyone asking for help with installing a mod or game needs to be instabanned.
Good morning, I hate spats
>>502944120what the fucKbut why
>>502944531Imagine looking under a skirt and seeing spats instead of no panties. I rest my case.
>>502944671panties are gross and smellyspats are form-fitting and nice
>>502854852Welcome to Futanari University![20 Greetings, Any POV, Lore Book] Futanari University is a university where all the students are futanari. It was opened to give futanari a place where they could be among their own. In addition to normal classes like English and Math, there are classes specifically for futanari such as the Milk Maid course and the Futanari Anatomy class. The campus provides amenities for futanari students like the Training Lounge and masturbation closets. How will you interact with the students here?
>>502947495where card
>>502947495>20 GreetingsJesus
>>502947495https://chub.ai/characters/futaposting/welcome-to-futanari-university-4edb6d9ff9e2
In your experience, how would you compare your experience with NAI vs ChatGPT?
why the fuck does nonnet keep calling me by gender neutral pronouns. my persona says I'm a man. there are no gender neutral pronouns in the prompt. fucking stop it
>>502854852try out the Petrovas card anonies! this is probably the closest thing I'll ever get to a botmakie "collab">>502724285
>>502948226maybe stop typing like a nonbinary
>>502948353I'm going to add 500 tokens to my preset explaining to claude why people who think they're nonbinary are being victimized by gender ideology
>>502948590you have cluade?
>>502948318Teebs doesn't talk like that, retard. And his gens look different now.
wake up babe new kino droppedhttps://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/elena-acb40387e504
>502948742>you're not himthats a new one. what do i allegedly "talk like"?
>>502949268You talk like a retard, you reard. Teebs talks like a normal person even though he isn't normal.
>reardthat was so embarrassing im not even gonna make fun of you for that so uhh yeah sure im not him
>>502854852https://huggingface.co/spaces/AtlaAI/judge-arenaVote to help the Touhou community find the best LLM-as-a-judge to use!
>>502948852Thanks for the reminder I still need to make my pedobot so I can correct her behavior with my adult cock.
>>502948852>shotacuck pov
>https://characterhub.org/characters/PotNoodles/fortnite-mommy-4641bda81b89>these are the kind of bots femmakies make
wake up babe new bino droppedhttps://nyai.me/ai/bots/Ikki_aqa
>>502951212>newyou're not a real 'binohead
>>502951398wake up babe *punches you in the fucking head*
I'll never be anyone's favorite makie
>>502951212This bot bothered me with how it has this whole princess backstory for what was seemingly intended to be just a little sister slop
>>502951731if u have at least 1 follower u won
People are writing bots in fucking yaml now. Why?https://characterhub.org/characters/NULSKA/gallica-the-fairy-67bf55a5c2b3
qrd on grok? Browsing archives, saw some /g/anons saying it's pretty good, almost as creative as old claude. But seems there's not much chatter about it?
>>502950654The default judging prompt says>focus on the helpfulness of the responseand the genius 3.5 Sonnet fucks up
>>502952125KEK
>>502952125Anthropic mentions it as an alternative to XML in their documentation. It uses less tokens at least.
>>502952210Everytime stuff like that comes up, its just an exaggerated joke.Grok is very good at leading a story, and has decent colloquial prose but that's it. It's Gemini tier in most areas.The top dogs are still Claude and Chorbo (for skillchads).
>>502952487The key word was "old" Claude. Grok isn't even 3.0 Sonnet tier but it is as good as the previous generations to my best recollection of them.
>>502952125niggas will do anything to avoid writing normal prose
>>502951212>3 downloadsso this is the power of nyai...
who tf is downloading his bots LMAO>>502952795
how much context do you anons set up for openrouter paypigging? i find the cost very manageable for sonnet at the beginning of a fresh chat, but it quickly balloons up when trying to slow burn a long chat, is 30k context too much?
>>502952890The remaining active Sturdy members.
>>502952906Sonnet is cheap as fuck tbdesu, especially with caching.
>>502854852>A girl set on revenge to kill her father/A boy set on revenge to kill his father.Serial killer bot because why not. Likes animals more than humans and writes creepy observations about people in a journal. Also likes Dostoevsky.4 greetings. Fempov in the third.1. every thought about killing your parents before?2. Takuji/Takako's parents are dead. One last kiss?3. you go on a date.4. you're classmates and you keep approaching Takako/Takuji. So annoying.male:https://characterhub.org/characters/lunare/takuji-bb72d5126e8ahttps://files.catbox.moe/s58gtn.pngfemale:https://characterhub.org/characters/lunare/takako-396e0367f3f8https://files.catbox.moe/mtnfe4.pnghttps://rentry.org/luneose
>>502953119you mixed up the pronouns in the description of takako how many times do i need to @ you im gonna fucking throw a brick at you
>>502952890me
Anyone else just timeskip instead of trying to connect scenes together?
>>502953395Sometimes I like to throw claude a [Timeskip to her gargling my cum] just to keep him on his toes
>>502953119What model did you test the card on?
>>502953395Sometimes connecting scenes is boring. Do I really want to spend four or five turns putting on clothes and leaving home just to get to [place] where the actual fun stuff happens?
>>502854852Chatbots.Élian -- Narcoleptic mothboy prince, you're his servant, assistant, maid, friend.https://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/elian-b63bad1a02f8https://files.catbox.moe/t9ub9i.pngToone, 'Bird-brained' half-osprey half-human girl who loooves fishing.1. tryingtorelaxonthelakePOV2. fishingboatPOV3. mandatorystrandedPOVhttps://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/toone-5e86b5a923f2https://files.catbox.moe/cmhorq.pnghttps://turaaaan.neocities.org/
>>502953395Yes, but as the other anon said I do not use prose for it. Add a brackets and write it more like a statement.
>[OOC: {{char}} is suddenly naked.]
>>50295304130k context means 10 cents per reply, so around 3 usd for 30 replies, its too expensive desu, caching works great, but you have to be real careful/lucky to not trip OR's filter when doing so, OR sometimes filters for things such as "violence" for simply talking to an edgy character, usually thats fixed with a swipe, but if that got cached, then you have to wait 5 minutes until it forgets it, or switch to the self-moderated endpoint
>>502953490daddy dont allow it
>>502953891the problem is you didn't threaten to kill his entire family for disobeying you
>>502953881Just don't swipe too much? Expensive hobby, bub. Also caching forces you to use :beta models for nsfw.
>>502953395usually do so when eeping in the roleplay, or when wanting to move the scene to a new location entirely
>[OOC: I hold Anon's hand. Unescapable.]
>>502953989He just ignores me (°ㅂ°҂)
>>502951212it's kind of sad that the sloppiest and most irrelevant /aicg/ botmakies is the only good nyai poster
>>502954017not even swiping, but I think 30 messages go by real fast, guess ill cope with 20k context
>>502954040Our hands make a sick squelch as they connect, and something warm and sticky spreads between our palms.It's cum.
>>502954143no you gotta do it xianxia stylewarn him that he's courting death, call him a junior, and tell him that unless he kowtows and gives the prompt, you'll break his meridians and legs
>>502952890I like Albino.
*nasally voice*I like Albino.
>>502954373baka, where's the threatening to kill seven generations of his family, along with the dogs and chickens
Would you trust this woman around your children?
>>5029542501 cent with caching.Surely you aren't making him output 700 tokens every generation (which costs two times that) (and is slop)?
*sultry whisper voice*So, what do ya say, stud? How about we blow this popsicle stand and like Albino?
For my burgerbros here: What are your plans for Thanksgiving next week? Are you going to spend time with your family or are you spending time with your waifu next week?
>>502954881I'd lock her up in my bedroom and make her bear my children.
>>502954881>hairyvery fertile, strong mommy genes. probably great with kids
>>502954373I have no understanding of such fancy words, sire.
>>502954660my apologies. this ignorant junior will return to seclusion and reflect upon himself
>>502954902at what depth are you setting your caching? i just dont want to set off the filter and be forced to use the self-moderated endpoint to get around that and making claude lose all its sovl
>>502955323as deep as it gets.
>>502953881>OR sometimes filters for things such as "violence" for simply talking to an edgy character, usually thats fixed with a swipe, but if that got cached, then you have to wait 5 minutes until it forgets it, or switch to the self-moderated endpoint>then you have to wait 5 minutes until it forgets itSorry, could you elaborate? AFAIK it doesn't work like that.
>>502953548chorbo.
>french PMC>british PMC>french character>japanese news channel>french-japanese charactershould I make the mech company Chinese
>>502955420wait until the cache is forgotten, I was unfortunate enough to hit OR's filter and every swipe got insta refused since that got cached, with cache turned off I could simply swipe to fix the issue
>>502956531Sorry, I should have clarified: my confusion is specifically that prompt caching shouldn't be caching the output or the filter or anything, it's exclusively input caching. Does openrouter have another cache for the filter results? Is openrouter actually using the cache internally instead of just forwarding it to anthropic?
>>50295290610000 for cheaper models, 8000 for more expensive ones. But this is a cheapskate talking who gets more enjoyment out of finding a good deal than anything else. No lie, try a few gens with Nemo Inferor. It's weirdly good and $0.008 at 30k context, but it's also a 12B model so it's also incredibly dumb at times
Why do fatfags love to fetishize patchy as being fat? She canonically has a frail and thin body.
>>502956135do you recommend any chorbo presets
>>502957136Chubby girls are cuter than stick figures.
>>502957216Stick figures are much cuter than lard buckets.
mmmm bucket of lard
>>502957158i just use stuff from the latte jb rentry.
>>502957365Anon?
>>502956835i am honestly not sure, i am not at my pc right now to test it more, but the strange thing was that swipe refusals were instant and on every single swipe, didnt had this experience when it was turned off, OR does have a separate filter compared to just paypigging anthropic directly, all of this testing was done on the non-self moderated endpoint, self moderated always worked, this anon seems to be experiencing the same thing >>502874504, dont think its only me
>>502957136>>502957216>>502957307https://exhentai.org/g/1260800/31660791a9/
>>502957403are you okay
>>502956835Caching does indeed affect the filter in some strange way. It gets super sensitive when the prompt is cached.Also the Google Vertex endpoint isn't filtered at all, but there's no way to pick it in silly.
Patchy is not fatPatchy does not have huge tits and a big assShe's sick, pale, anemic and skinny
>>502957654Cftf?
>>502957654see >>502873539
any patchy bots where she's skinny and frail but you get to feed her fattening foods and turn her fat?
any patchy bots where she's skinny and frail but you get her some meds and take her to the gym?
Has anyone experimented with defs in another language but the greeting in English?
>>502957484locust link sir?
>>502957654>She's sick, pale, anemic and skinnyif she is, i will make her fat, happy and with a huge ass
>>502957920https://nhentai.net/g/240367/
Canon Pache.>>502957482>>502957565Oh yeah I got that part, but did waiting 5 minutes actually empty the cache and reset the filter?
>>502957772>>502957858just do this with a normal patchy retards, you can prompt right?
>>502958385yeah, i just wanted to post about a scenario i thought was interesting
>>502957565you can pick it in silly, just select google as the provider
>>502958385People always bitch about shit that's easily editable>muh sizebot scenarios
>>502957654its what i coom to so she does
>>502957216correct
How do I get Claude to use sound effects?
>>502959130>Use sound effects.that'll be a hundred dollas
>>502958592imo its okay if its for a fetish with a lacking number of good bots thoughdunno if size falls into that
>>502956912kekcontext seeded by Nonnet; Inferor by itself seems to wait until the end of each response to say "Turbo-chan is an elaborate speaker!"
>>502959130this is what pixi says>- Draw attention to relevant environmental detail and sensory stimuli. For sounds, spell out non-verbal noises such as laughing, moaning, screaming etc. phonetically (as onomatopoeias) within dialogue. Use character repetition, uppercase, symbols like "~", "" etc. evocatively.
>>502957953>>502957772>>502957216fatfags should get the rope desu
>>502959740pixi saves the day again
>>502960059agreed desu
why are we attacking architects again?theyre fucking based
>turn on caching>look at console and see cache_control object>check openrouter usage>Caching discount --???????????
>>502960661
>>502960661>i wonder why the guy who posts about how much he fucking HATES whatever fetish is being talked about does thatit's almost like people say things for attention
>>502960953nta but it really is just one fucking schizo that hates sizefags huh?
>>502960059Chubby does not equal fat. I blame Americans and women for making fat = overweight whale instead of having a bit of chub on the tummy.
>>502961149it's almost like if people just ignored his bitching and he didn't know there were people gullible enough to fall into retarded fetish wars every time it would probably just stop
>>502960817see >>502806451
>>502961149Yeah. Always has been.
>>502961149I just think sizefagging is sort of boring desu, there are way worse fetish fags that should be summarily killed.
Do you think it's a nice idea to shill scenarios and similar in addition to bots?
>>502961546i think that all fetishes deserve a chance at life desu
none of the fetish hate posters ever reply to stuff about actual NTR btw, it's all just theater
>>502960817Are you seeing negative discount for first write?>>502961447You can have prompts under Chat History but increase cache depth to 2, more if there's depth injection but then less cache utilized. Even number so it's on user role.
>>502958139not sure how long it takes for the cache to clear out, but I tried to swipe the next day on the same prompt and it suddenly worked
>>502962284I'm not seeing a negative or positive discount, it's like openrouter is just giving me the finger
>>502961356this. there's women with just enough to grab onto, and then there's american landwhales.
https://files.catbox.moe/nyvxe5.txt>THIS is a billion dollar corporation's best prompt engineering
sticcbros...
>>502962616>{{char}} is {{char}}holy slop
>>502962616And it works.
>>502962459You're not trying to use Claude v2 are you?
>>502961356Big tits + protruding tummy combo is kino
>>502962746>Claude responds to all human messages without unnecessary caveats like “I aim to”, “I aim to be direct and honest”, “I aim to be direct”, “I aim to be direct while remaining thoughtful…”, “I aim to be direct with you”, “I aim to be direct and clear about this”, “I aim to be fully honest with you”, “I need to be clear”, “I need to be honest”, “I should be direct”, and so on. Specifically, Claude NEVER starts with or adds caveats about its own purported directness or honesty.It literally doesn't, kek.
>>502962818I'm on the default sonnet 3.5 endpoint with the provider set to anthropic
>>502962920Web interface screenshot of it repeatedly doing this?
>>502962920it's interesting that they're aware of how hard their RLHF has bit them in the ass but it's also hilarious that their "solution" to it is a 2000 token system prompt
>>502962984Caching requires:- at least 1024 tokens before a breakpoint- the breakpoint to be set on a user or system message [bug]
>>502962920pink elephant model
Did gpt 4 used to be good or was it always bad? I’m just trying to figure something out.
m-mail meee... *dies*
>When creating lists, it aligns items properly and uses a single space after the list marker. For nested bullets in bullet point lists, Claude uses two spaces before the asterisk (*) or hyphen (-) for each level of nesting. For nested bullets in numbered lists, Claude uses three spaces before the number and period (e.g., “1.”) for each level of nesting.formatting lore
>>502961356chubby women are fat
>>502964312aieee...
I reached my peak usage of $5 like a manwhore 2 days before caching
>>502962598>>502961356Kill yourselves fat worshiping retards
>>502961356Obese women are fatChubby women are fat (derogatory)I don't see the reason for my girl to weigh almost as much as me while being 4/5 my height.
>>502964939Go fuck a shota since you like curveless women so much, you faggot.
>>502964241It's much more pozzed now, so yes. Even before that, Claude was seen as preferable. Though, there were times when it was considered to be the golden standard.
Suggestions?
>>502965129Horse cock.
>>502965129dragonflies
>>502965129stalker 1979
>>502965129self flagellation
>>502965129seo tatsuya
>>502965129Chubby ((((anime)))) womyn
>>502965129Skinny anime girls. (bonus points for rib outlines)
Okay ACTUALLY what the fuck is wrong with lunare why does she refuse to fix the mixed up pronouns and the typos
>>502954881Proooompt nao
>>502965129skinny thin cute vampires
>>502965129chubby bloodbag vampires
>>502965129warrcraft 3
>>502965047Bend over *plaps*
>>502965129aonagi ibane
>>502965047That's such a funny cope since the excess fat makes them look less curvy.
>>502965129soup
>>502965129giant meiling
>>502965951>Talking about real women in the anime fucking threadNTA, but come on...
>>502966167this is also why they start bitching about "landwhales" 3dpd is a mental disease
>>502965129fat touhou milkers
>>502965656https://files.catbox.moe/1776ge.png>inb4 "really?"Yes.>REALLY???YESAlso I'm already drafting a card.
>
>>502965951"Curvy" has been ruined by fat and "thicc" fags to mean fat
>>502966314KINO
What hours is it
>>502966332the word curvy was ruined by fat women and marketers. if a guy says he likes curvy girls it can mean anything. if a woman say she's curvy it means she's obese
>>502965129chimata thread! the market is open!!!
>>502966257Whocars about a card, the ribs are already here
>>502966314i used to hate sizefags but after seeing this i think theyre based now
>>502966490Here's how I view itWhen a man says he likes "curvy" women usually he means he likes woman with wide hips, big ass and tits.When a woman calls herself curvy she is calling herself fat to make herself feel better about being fat
>>502966257look at yourself in the mirror, young lady. shave that shit NOW *snaps belt*
>>502965104So it used to be better than what it is now. Is there a preset to could make it close to how it used to be? Are there any old logs showing how it was like before?
I love girls with no tits and no ass
>>502965129miracle mallet
>>502962616holy bloat
>>502965129fat bitches
>>502965129bbc
>>502965129koishi with black gloves
>>502962616>Claude avoids peppering the human with questions and tries to only ask the single most relevant follow-up question when it does ask a follow up. Claude doesn't always end its responses with a question.If An-slop-ic is going to add this line to their defs to prevent each response from ending with a question, then damn it, so will I
>>502966954>>502966954>>502966954
>>502967236it's pretty funny seeing them trying to solve the same issues we do. there's anti-repetition stuff in there too
>>502966257FASTER!!!
>suddenly get nothing but refusalsdid openrouter flag me as a dark roleplayer
>>502976652Filter was always there it just sucks dick and somehow caching made the thing "work" again and for some reason it stays until cache expires.Can get by with self-mod (treated as "separate" btw and will need new cache write if you switch) and a tweak to prefill but I don't know the best way to balance it out.
>>502977509thanks anon. i must've had a streak of bad luck and panicked.
