kissing dotardshttps://www.dota2.com/patches/7.37e>INFORMATION & GUIDESWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:GameNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/LoreFor League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.ggPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/570>ESPORTShttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esportshttps://datdota.comhttps://dota2.com/esportshttps://gosugamers.net/dota2Previous: >>502559983
How many hours do you guys haveWhen did you start playing
whats the point of shit like this
>>502879886>7.37eIt's fucking nothing
SEX WITH LINA
>>5028800906k2017
sex with blueheart
That new patch was definitely rolled out to meet quota. Every changes were literally nothingburger
grubby
just die already you pieces of shit
WE WANT GRUBBY BACK
>>502879886Does nobody really care about esports?I remember having an argument with an asshole (in r*ddit) and the guy said the esports scene make up very little of Dota revenue and general interest. BP money, he claimed, was because of the tied level cosmetics and nobody really cares about helping the teams.I thought he was wrong, and when Valve announced they were gutting the DPC I was so sure the game would soon die. But I checked steamcharts recently and Dota is still at the top 2, like it's business as usual?
>>502880141to trigger the OCD fags who need their volume on multiples of 5s
>>502880141qop is dead now bottom tier
>>502880141what the fuck, qop wasn't even good
>>502883112>>502883271they even nerfed her 10 talent too>below 50% winrate in all brackets>basically never picked in pro gameswhat the hell is wrong with campo santo?
this nerf hurts really badly-20 damage
>Clockwerk nerf is a minor reduction in bonus damage against creeps>no Dragon Knight changes>no Pangolier changes>no Tusk changesI guess they don't care about fixing the dominance of these heroes in the pro scene, particularly Tusk and Clock. >Tidehunter buff is 5 mana cost to Anchor Smashkek sorry poor fishman
UhhhThis isn't 7.38?
>>502884167tusk was nerfed you used to get -60% attack speed early
>>502884443Can't you read?
>>502884167TH buff is decent. He struggles with mana, and Anchor Smash is arguably his strongest ability on a low cooldown.
>>502884167isn't this a pretty big pangolier nerf?everyone used this facet.
>>502884443like umm entitled much umm uhh this is the wrong look like they just uh released kez and act 4 and they also released all these cool minigames and like ringmaster and ti weren't that long ago and they took their time to polish everything so they're exhausted and yikes i can't believe you really expected them to release 7.38 like woah man like calm down just like wowzers just *clap* sit *clap* down *clap* hmmmm....... okay sweaty?? :)
>Ringmaster has Aghs>its just a W upgrade???????
>>502884994bruno came to the thread while someone was whining about escape act being bad so he made the aghs upgrade escape act as a joke
now luna is unplayable. eoic.so how many carries are viable now?
>>502885223idk just play an offlaner in the safelane it'll probably work
>>502884661It's pretty minor, he still scales like shit and has minimal late game impact
this is kind of big honestlymakes it a lot harder to avoid damage with
>>502885590he was dogshit already
>another letter patchTOP FUCKING KEK!
>>502885659He's pretty good at dominating lanes vs certain heroes. But this nerfs it a bit.
why
>>502879886>New patch and we are on page 10What happened?On an unrelated note, how is the betting scene? I know fixing games and betting still exist but not as popular as it used to.
>>502892246just play poker if you want gamble
>>502892595Watching and betting is only fun in dota.
>luna nerfs>to all of the talents you don't pick on her*phew*I've been enjoying her now that I have the wolfrider skin
>>502896803You're retarded. They removed the level 20 talent that carries the hero.
>>502897421no?4 second cd lucent beam is still there untouchedor did I misunderstand how that one worked and it actually spammed a gorillion free basic attacks on the lucent beams generated by her ult
>>502897742okay you're just clueless
>>502897742The one that spawned glaives was killing people with Khanda in fact they nerfed all the ones people were picking that also had the higher winrates so I don't know what you're thinking
>>502898045wow what gave it away was it me asking about what I was missingnigger>>502898129the spawned glaives were proccing khanda??I guess that explains why everyone was buying it then...>I was choosing every single unpopular/low wr talenthmmm......I have much to ponder....
>>502898129lol, there really wasn't a choice with these talents.like even the 15 talent, the +80 lucent damage one is the best for buffing the ulti.
>>502898357No but it was a lot of damage if you had it and they were near someone for almost no commitment
>>502880271wtf is with her lower body why does she have the lower body of a woman in her 30s? isn't she supposed to be athletic and taut?
What the fuck is with Valve giving heroes stuff and then taking it away a few patches later? This fucking game was way more stable in the 6.6x-6.8x days and that was nearly the span of a decade.
Just lost to Imperia again. I was about 1cm from a Cheese when her fireball killed me. Infuriating I have to go through the 15 minute tedium a bunch more times until I build another Daedalus.
>>502901631bro just use magic unless for some reason you want to do the physical build
Best girl.
>doing well with Doom on a turbo match>Laptop suddenly shuts downFuck, how long does the ban last? I don't know why this is happening so often with my laptop.>>5028800908002018
Do people use these threads to find people to play with or is there a discord server or something?
>>502907079nobody in this game has friends or wants to make friends.
>>502907437Christ, that's depressing
>>502904004sexo
>>502907079I would play with you but my laptop sucks, it might disconnect at any time, I don't want to buy a new pc because I'm too attached to this one.
>>502907936Meh add me anyway. Maybe your laptop will randomly become okaydisc: edenodenOpen invitation to anyone else as well
>>502904004I can count the pixels
I knew the patch was coming, but I didn't expect it to be another fucking letter patch. And it's such a nothingburger, too.
>>502910242Dota 2 might as well not have the anti aliasing option.thats at 2k too.
>>502912302Reminder the map hasn't been changed in 2 years other than removing a few trees LMAO
>witch doctor nerfedyes keep it coming please 48% wr in divine pick rate in pro games 0%.what about wd makes him so broken in retard games that he has to be nerfed patch after patch? I have 600 wd games and I have no idea why can't 3ks deal with the hero.
>>502912797people auto run next to each other.alternatively, he is very strong with the appropiate lane combo.
>>502912870>gremlos are concocting the most malicious wd lane combos that even pros dont knowhard to believe this
>>502912963pro games are nowhere near the same as your random pub with a duo stack. pubs dont take into consideration whatever the hell your team picks.
>1h work break>queue up all pick>rotting in queue 30 minutes >cancel queue>spend 30 minutes watching youtube>go back to work like a cuckok well fuck you then
>>502912797Yeah this shit is retarded.Like you could possibly argue that his shard is too strong and since everyone gets it. But if you nerf his shard you have to buff something else to make up for it.
im still calling that 7.38 is going to remove primary attributes and make everyone 'universal'
>Have the world's easiest victory in draft>Double down MMR>Fail to check profiles to see that the Monkey King is the same IRL>They have a 5 minute diffusal blade, somehow>Tree spring slap boing boing invoker duo queue that isn't actual duo'd instant Sunstrike on my head>Repeat for 40 minutes>LoseSouth America was a fucking mistake.
>>502912797Specifically it got nerfed because if he somehow farmed a blink dagge, he basically turned into a Puck E, since you could just switcheroo and blink away at the very end of it no matter what.
Man watching spirit secret ti10 semi finals and how the fuck did secret fall down so hard since?
templar assassin in bondage when?
QOP but anthro
>>502915462No one cares about your random pub match. No one’s asking for your replay, and you wouldn’t care if someone else posted the same thing. You think your game is special? It’s not. Nobody’s losing sleep over how fast some archon farmed an item in a game no one will ever remember.
>zero visage nerfsepic, "icefrog", epic
My boy slipped through with only minor nerfs. Hopefully Valve lets him stay good for a while even though he's seeing pro play and isn't one of the heroes that are allowed to be permanently good.
>>502904004Just wish she wasnt so expensive to acquire
>>502907079People have offered to play with me whenever I've mentioned I'm new and looking for teammates. However I'm from NZ and dont want to make them suffer from ping trying to play with me
>>502915238Agility is the only one that makes balancing heroes hard. Antimage in particular just doesn't quite work because of how his abilities/facets/innate work alongside his agility scaling.
this is so fucking stupidthis whole patch is stupid and was likely made in 1 hour by a literal janitor
groobie is playing wow now...https://youtu.be/VKEeaeO2RJg
ringmaster facets????
>0 nerfs for dk, pango, alch, bristle>wk nerfed for no fucking reasonpeak campo sharto
>>502920456why dont you just find another new-to-dota streamer to cling too?
>>502920353This patch was targeted to nerf luna, other heroes are pretty much untouched
>>502920573>I'm only pretending to be retarded anon, I'm guessing you don't watch pro dota and don't play in immortal games.
>>502920884Which is funny as she had already completely fallen out of the competitive scene and only had a 52% win rate in pubs.
>>502920884it was also a nerf to dusa as well, that hero is fucking stupid now and probably needs another rework because she oscillates between useless ranged creep and unkillible dps machine
>>502921527what are you talking about, retard? wk has abysmal pick/win rate
ok but when are they removing feast of souls
>>502922176probably left for 7.38 (which should've released at least 1 or 2 tournaments ago)
why are some people just bots in games? why do we queue with these friends and why do they never improve? this specifically applies to girl"gamers"
>>502920569an aghs wasnt enough?youre so fucking entitled
>>502922426>which should've released at least 1 or 2 tournaments agoyour first post ti experience?
>>502922572they dont care about improving, most people only care about picking the hero they want and then casting their spells. these players often go the same items every game.and that is how most people play mobas
>>502922795is that a bad thing?
>>502922795what about sheever thendo you think she wants to improve or has she played 14k games for nothing?
>>502922860sheever's mechanical limitations may prevent her from being an immortal player, but to suggest she isnt improving anymore is dumb
>right-click tree facet improved by 20% (5 to 6)Tree offlane bros we out here feedin' goodI waited 900 seconds to post this.
>>502922958she is one of the worst players i've ever watchedthe only reason she is legend or ancient or whatever she is is because she party queues with a male person
>>502923070its easily to pick faults out on anyone when all you do is watch with a critical eyeshe plays solo queue, so no, she isnt getting carried
>>502922860my gf and sister are gamers, not trying to insult them but it showed me how women approach competitive games and they do it in a way where improving is a very low priority for them.things like reading wiki, watching replays, looking at meta picks... it's all things they don't think about doing at all.
>>502923210what a true gamer37% win rate in the last 3 months
>>502923270having fun playing a video game instead of becoming completely obsessing with winning at all costsbased
>>502923323what is the problem here?mad that you got BTFO this hard?or are you mad cause sheevs is higher rank than you LMAO
>>502923270i have a coworker that bought a switch a couple years ago and started blabbering to me about her botw adventures and then one day she just utters the fact that she has a full map bookmarked that she uses to find stuff to instead of actual game mechanics like the towerswhere is the fun in playing a game like that without the aspects of exploring and finding stuff on your own
>>502923417yes i'm completely mad that sheever is 5000 mmr below me you cretin
>>502923557its ok to admit you're upset
>>502923575the topic was people who don't improve at games why are you attacking me? do you feel targeted by sheevers banal stats?
>>502923651you make up bullshit, get proven wrong and dont admit that you lied you just come up with another reason to criticize her why are you so mad that sheever plays the game?
>>502923735how did you prove me wrong about sheever having 37% winrate in solo queue ranked? are you fucking retarded for real?post your dotabuff
>>502923795she has a higher wr in solo queue ranked if you expand past 3 monthsbut that doesnt matter to you, and now you feel the need to attack me cause you're so fucking madyou lied about this shithead"the only reason she is legend or ancient or whatever she is is because she party queues with a male person"
>>502923862thats not a false fact because you can check her party queue winrate and find out it is in fact over 50% and then you can extrapolate from the FACT (that means you can't dispute this) that she has a sub 50% overall winrate
>>502923997>50.38% wr in party>last match 5 months agoyou are so full of shit your eyes are brown
>>502923514>she doesnt artificially lengthen the game's length by acting like a manchildbased. time is money.
>>502922860People want to improve like people want to be rich: They would like it but don't want to do what's necessary. I mean, why haven't you made it to the pros yet? Don't you want to improve?
>>502924064ah right so you agree that the reason she is legend right now instead of ancient like she usually is is because she is playing solo queue?great
>>502924149no, since party queue was also failing herwhere is that 50+ win ra
>>502924127i wouldn't use this argument when this is the only thing you spend your free time on and then you throw it away because you don't have the patience to play without a guide
>>502924149you said she wouldnt be legend rank without party queue why must you backpedal?
>>502924295no she likely would be even lower because she has a zillion games played with odpixel who is at least immortal rn
>>502924393>likelyLMAO
>>502924448>i concedeabout time
>>502924495concede?you cant even commit to a full statement instead you must hide behind a word "likely" cause you are scaredyou said she could not be legend on her own and you were WRONG
>>502924572>semanticsyou haven't provided a single argument in this entire "debate"sheever is badwhat is your counterargument?
>>502924802>you haven't provided a single argument in this entire "debate"you choosing to ignore my argument is not the same as not providing onesheever is bad, but she is still improving regardless of what her win rate sayscause that is what this argument was about, whether players improve, not whether they are bad dumbass
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>502925307He probably farmed all of those with plague wards so it's his right to do that kek
>>502922081Probably because of pubs
>no nerfs to clockWhy? I'm tired of seeing this fag every fucking game
>>502925882nerfing witch doctor was more important ;)
>>502926889I guess shit heroes aren't allowed to be buffed and OP faggot heroes must stay OP forever
>>502926983clock is picked a lot but is he really op?his wr isnt that high
>>502927068
>>502927151ok60% wr is high
>>502925882Clockwerk is a wholesome chungus with funny voice lines, nerfing him is not allowed.
>>502927686this without any irony at all if you come for my homemade terminator its over for dota
>>502927872The game is dying because he's overpoweredThe sooner he gets shitcanned the better
>>502927997you're cutting off a leg to save the patientlife without clock will not be worth living, let dota die with dignity than clinging onto it so desperately as to can metal man
>>502927997You do know that you can just ban it right?
Make clock offlane like he always meant to be
>>502928443he needs something to farm with if he's going to be playable as core
>>502927997Clockwerk being really good is at least partially a symptom of the current carry meta. A bunch of ranged carries are stupid OP right now and Clockwerk is one of the best ranged carry lane bodyguards in the game. If SF, Medusa, Luna, and Morph get correctly nerfed then Clockwerk won't be as good. Luna got gutted this patch, and SF and Medusa got bonked a little, so expect his WR to drop.
>>502924921are you really improving if you are losing more than you win?are we dreamers or are we dancers?
>>502928712>win>losingpointless to use a never ending coinflip as a metric. look at your own stats, dota gives you past stats comparison
>>502928712matchmaking is too dogshit to have mmr be considered a good indicator of skill
og has a big hill to climb if they expect to win
i dislike that they've hidden solo queue behind ranked so that i can either play with stacks (bad) or gamble numbers (feels bad too)is it asking too much to want pickup dota for cavern crawl
>>502932125what if you play something other than all pick
>>502932125play turbo
>>502898357>the spawned glaives were proccing khanda??the spawned glaives proc crit and satanic lifesteal you stupid nigger
>enable strict solo queue>get parties anyway>they end up on different teams and one of them throws on purpose
>>502932447expecting immortals to police themselves is too much to ask
>years of service: 20>12489 hours on record
>>502932571Expecting them to police themselves without any way to actually police themselves is too much to ask, yes. If 4 people report the same player before the game starts he should get instantly banned and the game should be invalid, but instead griefers and account buyers can do what they want as there is no way to police anything you disingenuous kike.
>>502932808>If 4 people report the same player before the game starts he should get instantly banned and the game should be invaliduh huh, cause that couldnt be exploited at all
>>502932892So? The immortals can police themselves, right?
>>502933021in the sense that draft antics where parties are split up cause the drafter didnt respect the party, yesshould immortals have the ability to ban someone from playing the game cause they dont like them? no even if that dislike is from a legitimate reason like griefing/account buying
policing only happens if you have authority. what authority do immortals have? they can't nullify games or ban players through consensus
>>502933229>what authority do immortals have?they can report people all the same as the other tiers
i hate campo santo so fucking much
>>502933215They should have the power to ban griefers and account buyers. You seem to be unaware that parties will intentionally pose as not being in parties to end up on different teams so one can double down and the other throw, not to mention that if one of them ends up being the drafter the other drafter can be forced to pick the thrower. Then again you've clearly never played immortal draft so how about you shut the fuck up about something you've never and will never experience.What makes you think immortals will ban people simply for not liking them? Do you think immortals dislike other players for no reason? Being an account buyer is definitely a reason for being banned, it's against Steam ToS for one.
>>502933573>They should have the power to ban griefers and account buyers.no>You seem to be unaware that parties will intentionally pose as not being in parties to end up on different teams so one can double down and the other throw, not to mention that if one of them ends up being the drafter the other drafter can be forced to pick the thrower.then make it more obvious who everyone is partied with>What makes you think immortals will ban people simply for not liking them?they are spiteful players with little honor>Do you think immortals dislike other players for no reason?yes, cause they only care about winning>Being an account buyer is definitely a reason for being banned, it's against Steam ToS for one.then let valve ban them
>>502933714>immortals should police themselves!!>but they shouldnt actually be allowed to police themselvesYou're a fucking joke
>>502933793if there was honor among immortal players then they wouldnt need supreme authority
>>502933459lucent beam khanda was stupid, so was morphlingfind a new slant
>>502933831There is honor among immortal players, it's the account buyers that have none and they should be banned. For some reason you defend account buyers. Are you one?
>>502933915>There is honor among immortal players, it's the account buyers that have none and they should be banned."You seem to be unaware that parties will intentionally pose as not being in parties to end up on different teams so one can double down and the other throw, not to mention that if one of them ends up being the drafter the other drafter can be forced to pick the thrower"LMAO
>>502933915the solution to mmr exploitation isnt to include more ability for immortals to exploit the gamevalve bans account buyers
>>502933942And everyone hates them yet no one can do anything about it. Why are you defending people without honor?>>502934065>valve bans account buyersLMAO
>>502934126>And everyone hates them yet no one can do anything about ityou want to give the ability to grief and exploit furtherthat isnt not honorable
>>502934065>the solution to mmr exploitation isnt to include more ability for immortals to exploit the gameGood thing that's the opposite of what is being proposed. You want there to be more ways for people to exploit the system without punishment
dota should've never been free to playfrom 2011 it should've been $60 and that price should never change
>>502934251>Good thing that's the opposite of what is being proposed.hardly, you expect supreme authority to give you power of the griefers, when in reality you would only be grief furthered by being reported and banned>You want there to be more ways for people to exploit the system without punishmentwhere did i suggest that?
>>502934235>punishing griefers is griefing they didnu nuffinok jew
>>502934365you arent punishing anyone but yourself by empowering griefers to have the ability to ban
>>502934346>in reality you would only be grief furthered by being reported and bannedWhy would that happen? I'm not a griefer.>where did i suggest that?You are defending the current griefing and thinks a system that would punish them shouldn't be implemented because it could potentially be used for griefing.
>>502934493>Why would that happen? I'm not a griefer.its not for you to decide who is a griefer, only up to 4 other people>You are defending the current griefing and thinks a system that would punish them shouldn't be implemented because it could potentially be used for griefing.potentially? lmao of course it would exploited which is why its a bad ideaim not suggesting the current system is perfectyour solution is a poor one
>>502934365nice job, retard. you invalidated your entire point by being an antisemitic piece of shit.
>>502934614>its not for you to decide who is a griefer, only up to 4 other peopleExactly, so you agree with me.>potentially? lmao of course it would exploited which is why its a bad ideaHaving 4 people coordinating dishonorably is much less likely than the current state of a single griefer holding all the power.
>>502934768>Exactly, so you agree with me.what? those 4 people could all be griefers>Having 4 people coordinating dishonorably is much less likely than the current state of a single griefer holding all the power.only because they dont have that power currently, by enabling them then they would absolutely abuse ityou think way too highly of the honor among immortalsmost are russians who only care about themselves
>>502934687it's counterzionism, not antisemitism jews are evil and if you don't hate them you're evil, sorry
>>502934874>what? those 4 people could all be griefersAnd you expect them to coordinate instead of turning on each other? Do you even play this game?>most are russians who only care about themselvesYeah, do you not see the issue with your previous line of thinking?
>>502934687I think there's very fine people on both the radiant and the dire sides.Chew on that you disgusting kike
>>502935031>And you expect them to coordinate instead of turning on each other?if they can gain from your misfortune then yesobviously efforts would become more coordinated if the bar for success is so low
>>502932235I do play TurboTax and the bill still comes due because games go over 25 minutes every now and then even though by 10 mins you know it's over.
>>502935189>if they can gain from your misfortune then yesYou seem to think there is honor among the dishonorable. They will turn on each other much quicker than coordinating. The odds of there being 4 griefers that know each other in the same lobby, let alone the same team, that would also be willing to cooperate is infinitesimally small. They all think themselves honorable and gain just as much ganging up on the bigger griefer than someone they don't know.
>>502923270women have low IQ, that's why they don't play games with men.
>>502935476>men are allowed to go to school while women aren'twow what a surprise did you know that there are more women in higher education these days in the us than men?
>>502935465>You seem to think there is honor among the dishonorable. They will turn on each other much quicker than coordinating.doubtful since you expect the bare minimum4 of them group and ban their 5th every gamethey are griefers, that is enjoyable>The odds of there being 4 griefers that know each other in the same lobby, let alone the same team, that would also be willing to cooperate is infinitesimally small.the game allows you to party queue.....
>>502935629>the game allows you to party queueStrict solo queue except for some reason duos are allowed. There is never a situation where you will see 4 people party queues in immortal draft.
>>502935971so the 2 parties of 2 russians gang up against the 5th personor maybe all russians just choose to ban non-russians or vice versa outta spiteso many possibilities for exploitation
i keep losing nest of thorns and i dont know how to win e7 without grinding a full sweep of level 4sit always starts going bad for me when the tomato bears arrive, they're just too fat to one shot and theres too many of them
in most traditional sports being successful breeds respectimmortal players dont respect each other and never willthis why a honor system will never work
>>502936108Once again you're inventing elaborate circumstances that most likely will never happen in order to defend the shitty system that has much simpler and likelier exploits, why?Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't reports from multiple people in the same party not work?
>>502936506>Once again you're inventing elaborate circumstances that most likely will never happenyou're dumb if you think that supreme authority wouldnt be exploited>Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't reports from multiple people in the same party not work?not what you described originallyif you want to include further conditions on what would qualify for a ban, then maybe your idea can be salvagedbut if you stand with 4 reports = insta ban that shit will be exploited
How to make this hero not shit? No meme answers like >Assfucking>Assfuck the entire enemy team>50 mana.
>>502936249max out damage upgrade if possiblei did mine early by relying on god rollstry to use as few rerolls as possible but you're looking for magic missile and spirit as your first 2 abilitiestake laguna/chain frost as abilities 3 and 4 (not all that necessary)try to get frost bitetimeless relic means magic missile stuns for 4 seconds, frost bite for like 3 or 5 i forget.focus on kaya/projectile count relic/timeless relic/heart/blademail pray that the 3 min boss is wailing mass and use that to upgrade magic missile because you'll need that dps boost. spirits gets pretty shitty during the mid-late game aside from buying you space (which is why we upgrade it as our 2nd aghs)
Metafaggotry should be abolished! The game is way more fun when everyone just does whatever random shit came to their mind just to have fun.
>>502936648>you're dumb if you think that supreme authority wouldnt be exploitedMuch harder to exploit than the current system, and it will punish griefers.>described originally Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I wasn't suggesting a permanent ban for 4 reports. Something closer to being queue locked like what happens if you abandon that ramp up the more often it happens would be the ideal. If it happens enough times it leads to bans.Also on the topic of party reports counting as a single rather than multiple it would prevent parties from ganging up on the outsider. Again, I'm not certain this is how the game treats party reports currently, if it ever did.
>>502937009Just make more heroes viable by making everyone broken.
>>502935569women are just brute forcing low IQ high memorization careers at college like medicine, nursing, caretaking, education, economics, sales and therapy.do you ever see a woman studying computer science, playing dota, playing chess, or studying a PhD in philosophy? Thought so
>>502937259>Much harder to exploit than the current system, and it will punish griefers.what? a system where anyone can grief anyone else is the exact same system we have now> Something closer to being queue locked like what happens if you abandon that ramp up the more often it happens would be the ideal.take the power out of the individual players hand and give overwatch teethif people are found guilty on ow then there is real punishment like queue lock or outright bans for repeat offendersthe system is already in place to allow the community to pass judgement
>>502936802no cast point on his spells
>>502936802Make Athropy Aura bonus damage permanent.
they ruined luna..
>>502938353that was supposed to be my job...
>>502938353>Ruined Luna setI would bust on the spot.
this item is pretty good with mask of madness
>>502936920i just got pretty close doing this i think it was bagged if i got wailing mass instead of having to fw cinderguard for my 2nd ags thank you anon i will keep trying
>dk untouched>luna's asshole gapedwhat did they mean by this
>support has the lane presences of an xp sponge>proceeds to get fucked>team cries that its my faultokay
>dk needs to get nerf-
oh no sheever fangays
>>502939530we died again sheevers
>>502939686why they bully her
>>502939530imagine being a small time eceleb and also a woman so people on a mongolian basketweaving website start to obsess over you
>>502939686you arent keeping up
>>502939473carry heroes are not allowed to be at or above 50% wr
you know I think moot was kinda hot
you can not convince me sheever is learning anything right nowshe has played like 10 games in this high mmr lobby and still doesn't realize she should just hit neutrals on a lost lane with veno
BSJ the micro manager :)
>>502940127what is this clown draft from radiantits captains draft nut they gave up 3 a tier heroes and drafted zero of their ownis synderen learning?
>>502940127sheever hit high mmr?
>>502936920thank you anon this did iti think before i was trying to max spirits and get its aghs first but the missle aghs makes it one shot the tomatoes and thats really importanti didnt get frostbite so i made due with swash, didnt get a heart at all but i hid behind the pillars for 4 cycles of imperias fma and then dodged the fifth and clutched itnew spirits aghs feels better than it wasgod bless u
>>502940818no she's playing some streamer tournament with like 4 10k+ mmr players
>>502940812what the fuck is this veno pudge pick xD
>>502940929grief
>>502940857wrong screenshot
how does synd give up dismembertoggle your rot bud
bsj not building bkb on troll is some grief shit
lmao nice mkb
>doesnt know what a zippo iswhat a zoomer
really sick of shitters on /d2g/ backseat playingif you were really that good you'd be the one playing and not them, right?
>>502943019because my team sucks more then theirs
>>502939473volume of games is much more important than wr
>>502943019
how is qojqva's music taste so utterly shit
>>502944495t. listens to anime and video game soundtracks only
bwos...
>>502944495What does he listen to? Nigger music?
>>502944853linkin park
>>502944662im ok with a german being happy
>Kez W nerfedWho honestly thought the birb was so strong he needed ANY sort of nerf. Pubs have already stopped picking him
>>502936802I feel like he is good honestly. Demon summoning facet + bloodstone + aghs + shard + "pit slows" talent, you shit out so much damage, deny a huge area by making it impossible to move through without a bkb, you're tanky, you can save teammates, rat, join fights, split push etc.He's basically good furion- fat edition
>Build damage on kez>Potentially do tons of damage, but too squishy to ever do it>Build survivability on Kez>Become unkillable and SOMEHOW deal tons of damageAt last I truly see. Ravens Veil + Raptor dance deals like 400 pure damage + 20% of the targets max hp, then deals like 72% of that damage over 8 seconds as an additional dot. It shreds with just an aghs
uh parker bros?
>>502945796fucking monkeydeserved
>>502945796a lack of desire to win in a dota game?
>>502945947they were in the qualifier finals and threw it
sheever is singlehandedly tanking these games
>>502945796Everyone knew this parker guy was a toxic piece of shit, even by dota's standards.
>>502945796desu wallachia was a b-tier lan even if it has a-tier prize pool. falcons was and tundra was the only t1 teams there and tundra used two stand-ins.tons of teams dropped out, maybe they didn't feel like it doing it so close after ti?
>>502945796what's up with b-tier players getting a gigantic head when they get showered with prasie after their performance in one tournament?it happened with saberlight too back when he played with undying and now he's playing for shartify
>>502946623skill wise he definitely is a top tier player>it happened with saberlight too back when he played with undying and now he's playing for shartifysaberlight plays for liquid since after ti
>>502946623same thing happens in most competitive scenes. the very cutthroat nature almost requires a level of ass in head arrogance to stay in the game. if you dont think you're gonna (or are) be the best, creeping doubt will erode your edge
carries are not allowed to be good in campo santo dota
>>502948569wow i wonder will any of the 20 meleem carries be good now
>>502948681I feel like melee carries need something to be able to go high ground/defend high ground. It's just so bad.
say hello to your new carry
>>502948569>carries are not allowed to be good in campo santo dotathese were the only 3 pickable carries in the entire game
any one know why this nigger isnt picked more in pubs?i feel like his aura and lane stage is giga busted
>>502948569At what point do you just start picking three broollord cores
>has become among the most played heroes on d2pt>played offlane, carry and supportwhat happened
>>502951149Don't really care, he should be shitcanned
10 Changes You Need to Know for Patch 7.37e Dota 2https://youtu.be/91byJTE9lDw
>>502945796the wallachia mvp got to his headanyone know what game he griefed?
>>502951743not sure what they're talking about but i watched the last 2 games in the bo5 final and heroic kind of threw both of themhttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Bangkok/2024/South_America
>>502948569sure they are
this cockva team is on full dispair
>>502952181maybe theres a lot more than just shit talking davai lama on stream a while back
>>502951149the shadow beaner, luna and m'dusa meta in the lane was so insane and ubiquitous, that the only heroes that could match up against them were their own illusionswhy is why dog seer became good again, despite being overnerfed
>>502900865women come in all shapes & sizes dummy
>>502953082and with penises
>>502954254cute penises
>>502904004>exists to swap in and get raped for the team
>losing to veno
sheever > qojqva wcyd
i hope all my friends watched this game because i feel exactly how qojqva feels
except cockva is actually the best player on his teamwhile u are the anchor
>>502952302>literally untouched>+2%
>>502957605>>502957605yeah, and he made the worst draft ever seen that ruined all their losses and didnt have bb in key moments, he played like shit
>>502945796uhm who was in the wrong??
>>502958940
>>502959208
>>502950120People legitimately dont know what he doesHero is just unpopular for the sake of unpopularHe was more popular in dota 1 when he was a bigass tauren chieftain, but maybe he would have been more popular in 2 if he was a cute girl
>>502958174range carries with built in aoe keep meepo from being op
>>502958174When other heroes competing with him for the same role in a team get nerfed, ofc he will see more wins
so when is 7.38 and aghs lab and diretide and frostivus?
>>5029611057.38 in april
ez free loss ty valve
>>502962875gay
>>502962875Coretrannies do be like that
>>502963465Who was in the wrong here?
>>502964342boththe lycan refused to roll and the tiny double picked mid
How to fix dotaRemove neutral itemsNerf STR all around.
*picks sand king*
*reports you*
>>502962875>>502963465wow i got this nigga again
>>502964983when you see someone with a moonrunes name, you know it's a deranged fatherless lunatic
>>502966504if it's moon they're a troon, if it's chink, they're a twinkif it's gook, rare animal do not spookif it's thai, disconnect and don't say bye
>>502964651The attribute system is pointless and only serves to make heroes harder to balance. There I said it. There is zero reason str items cant be redesigned to give health and regen, int items to give mana, mana regen and magic resistance, and agility to give attack speed and armour.It would also massively improve the readability of items rather than having to work out how many health 24 str gives you or how much armour 16 agi gives you etc.>But the damageThen give every attribute item damage to compensate. It wont change anything.For too long, Int has been a dump stat, agi has been "alright, but not nearly as good as strength"
>>502966978too much work for 1 person
>>502966978the system works better if heroes are set into roles more firmlystrength to initiate and be strongagility to scale and do damageint to crowd control and supportbut when heroes cross roles it throws out the innate balanceconverting to a flat damage/hp/mana system would be easier to balance for sure when heroes are expected to be able to blend between roles
>>502966978t. universal dev
>>502963465we settled it boys
dota taking its time to put me with 4 of the biggest idiots the game can find three games in a row>forced 50 doesn't existWhy does it always happen 4-8 games in a row? Don't let people lie to you I just wanted some normal dota games this morning
Peedur nooooooo
>>502972593what does it mean
>>502974120PooPeeDee is gonna start gooning to Luna
>>502972593petahthe horse is here
>>502974542oh yes spit on me mommy Luna
>play against some clown with the name "Tryhard and PMA!">he's premutedAh, classic.
Friendly reminder that Valve claims there's been no increased instances of win trading since the introduction of double down tokens
>>502936802+5 movement speedShard makes 200 aoe pit of torment when casting Firestorm instead of current extra damage bullshitOverall though he's still playable, he is just a victim against hyper mobile ultra high damage heroes that are in meta right now.
>>502982331I have never seen them claim that
>>502982679Streamers who have contacted Valve have said that is their response and when they give instances of win trading they claim that there's not enough evidence
>>502982831I dont believe streamers, they would certainly lie for content
>>502982983Given win trading is clearly a noticeable problem with Valve doing nothing about it, it seems that it's correct
>>502983194That's a non-sequitur, to begin with its not like you can just put something in the code to fix wintrading, it requires actually a good idea.And removing double-down tokens is unlikely to happen given Valves track record of backing out of their stupid ideas, its money for them as well.Just because they don't do anything about it, doesn't mean they're not aware of the issue
>>502983194crownfall doesnt last forever
How is Kez being banned at draft startI thought new heroes couldnt be banned
>>502983861Double down tokens don't expire
>>502983887Then you thought wrong, he can get banned through ban selections but can't be banned through double-pick (maybe that's not even true anymore considering he's been out for weeks)
Imagine unironically believing dota will ever receive a non letter patch again. Dota is on live support and deadlock is receiving all the love.
fucking FINALLYi died at 1143 hp and was ready to scream my lungs out, but forgot that i took aegis from aghanim and was slightly confused when i got upi'm finally free from token wanking
>>502984656Imagine unironically believing what you just said, but if you just pre-emptively label any patch as letter-patch it could workEverything could be true if you're deluded enough
>>502983985sure but they arent infinite either
>gunnar>masondota 2 is dead
>>502986484>mgod is livedota 2 is saved
>>502985149There's aegis in Nest of Thorns? Where?
>>502985149bro the game isnt hard
4chan now supports mp4
>>502988105Buying it for gold and tokens in the pre game settings, also the aghs upgrade of the zeus ult spell
>The fed Pudge tips me after I combo him down while he tries to run awayuwu
>>502989565>melody the hyena
>>502989715
>>502989826post beans
>>502990150
>>502990239zased
>>502987961SIEG HEIL!
>>502989565>uwu
>>502984045But I thought they did away with ban selections, and you had to pick 4 heroes to ban from your hero screen now instead? I know it still says "Pick a hero to ban" at the start for a second but I thought that was just typical valve codeslop
>>502991673>and you had to pick 4 heroes to ban from your hero screen now insteadYes and you could select the bird from day 1 there
>>502991796>ValveThey continue to disappoint me, and yet not surprise me
*starts dancing*I just had a good team *anime theme music plays**collage of our greatest moments of last game plays*
is there any way to dodge in immortal games rn?
>>502998698Abandon
Nigga stfu the game is DEAD
so fucking dead bros...*plays another match*
*loses*
They need to release another group of heroes called dimensional heroes, that have no stats
I just reached the Ancient bracket.What should I expect?
>>503001865It differs entirely based on server.
>>503001865retarded players
They should just make the next event be greek/roman mythology and give Hera 2bh
>>503005174fuck thatgive us bacchus
>>503005174sorry the next hero is a funny music frog haha
>>503005627still pretty based ngl
>>502974542Luna paizuri with hand holding
>>503005627Female frog bard obviously
How satisfying. Been getting assfucked by the enemy team picking a bunch of HP heroes and auto-winning the late game because we have to go through a billion HP and my picks aren't good against tanks.
>>503007107People keep posting this but what are the chances he simply clicked on an ad and never bothered to delete the history? They can get intrusive.
>>502881994I care but most people don't. And even of the people who care, about 80% of them are just bots trying to win sports gambling bets like degens, and 19% of them are just fanboying retards who only care about final scores and drama between players spending all day obsessing about Twitter posts.Most dotards are actually obsessed about playing non-stop, and yes, the hats. When Valve separated the hats from e-sports, only the e-sports scene lost out.
>>503007235he has both blacked and blackedraw in there, if he'd clicked on an ad it would only have been the one on his history
>>503006490Last 2 heroes were male and dota is a masculine gameIt'll be a male
Let's say, in theory, the next hero is a little girlDoes this mean the game is dying or that it's going to last another 10 years at least
>>503009067valve isnt giving in to pedo coomers
>my fucking 5 just randomly ran mid and thats why i have to die rather than buy tangost.mason
>>503009067the game is dying and it will last another 10 years at least
it'll last until the final russian dota 2 player is drafted to die in ukraine
>>503010067lets be real any moscow/st petersburg rich kid is dodging that draft until putin dies of old age
World leaders play dota all the time in the elite queueAll the wars and stuff is just payback campaigns North Korea ran it down mid once and is primarily why the world is against them
Some fucking retards at campo santo bought back both at the same time and killed themselves right?
>>503009067The game is dying because it doesn't have cunny
>>502967775This is exactly it. The attributes divide heroes into three groups for no real reason. It actually pigeon holes lots of heroes because "Well actually this hero could do multiple things, but they cant really, because they're int and the int based items arent very good or dont lend themselves to anything more than utility".If STR heroes were tanky, AGI heroes were fighters and INT heroes were spell slingers, it'd make sense. But you have int heroes with mana issues while str heroes slam abilities nonstop, and you have agility heroes losing manfights with beefy str cores. It doesnt make sense Because theres no unifying theme amongst an attribute other than some attributes are clearly better than others, it actively hurts balance and makes design for heroes (and items) more difficult
>>502948569they are all dishonest. remember when ranged carries had poor lane fighting abilities and had to farm to be good.now they are all 300+move speed with epic spammable nukes and disables and free farm steroid/sustain with neutrals
i love reporting anyone who uses allchatthose report notifications are raining in
It is so hard to dodge pudge hook with 100+ ping its unreal
I just said "a booga booga" out loud thinking about a game and my family is nearby I hope they didn't hear my autism I might die from embarrassment
>>503019529they already know you're autistic
>>503019529Just get one of these bad boys and surprise them!
is he going to get over 50% winrate?
>>503019529>oh my god im so quirkykys
>>503021059>omg every post besides me is attention seeking pick me instead guys
>>503021204Exactly glad you understand
Do you think they're working on facet changes? They should know by now there's alot of useless facets
>>503021349>oh my god im so quirkykys faggot
>>503021578>teehee im so funnyneck yourself
>>503021349I'll always pick u bby*gropes ur boob and grinds erection against u*
Since when did atos root stop teleportation
>>503021671/trash/ is that way erpfreak
>>503021842Let's see, oh 6 years ago almost to the day, how spooky
Next event will be Dragon's Blood themed with Anime Lina persona
>>503023386what is that? some old event?
>>503023386feels sad looking at that knowing Davion's VA passed away, he was the first hero in the tutorial.
>wake up at 3 am randomly with diarrheai hate life
>>502959915>would have been more popular in 2 if he was a cute girlwhy dont dota have the "small but tanky frontliner and cute" archetype?like the merchant class in ragnarok - dota would be so fucking cool
>>503026127thats Marci
>>503024813It's the old tutorial, there was one with Sniper too, they added it with a map of the world and some book with some lore in it that's probably no longer accessible
>>503026347>picturethat's aghanim's labyrinth right?can you somehow still play that?
>>503026706there's a custom game in the arcade
>>503026706I don't know what it is I just saved it cause it's stupid
>>503026215Marci dies in the slight breeze
>>502879886Remember when Hector farmed a 13 minute Gleipnir on Weaver?
>no mouse control in castle carnageunplayable
>>503023386Wait, Lina shows up in the anime????? Frick I gotta catch up
Its not a heckin anime reeeeeee
Dotards get REAL quiet when animation is mentioned, lest a lolCHAD comes in and brandishes the Arcane flag to blind and stun the dotards
Frostivus?
Bounty Hunter is garbo I want to like his whole I provide vision for the whole map gig but I think more often than not the track gold isnt worth not having another heavy hitter as a 4
>100mb dota patchI wish I knew what it is.
>>503032856localization files :)
HD models...confluence...
>>503032856they turned some ints into floats
how long is act 4 going to be activeI need to know how long I have to put off getting the bomberman and semen slayers rewards
>>502948960morph stats leveling build is op. just skip morph and dump points into all stats. i destroyed with this build
>>503038821probably mid jan or early feb
>>503038821>>503039687They said in the post, January 15th
>>503032856you can easily find outsteamDB to track changeshttps://steamdb.info/app/570/patchnotes/and if it's changes in VPK you can use to see in side themhttps://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking-Dota2/commits/master/it's nothing except a few material/particle edits for crownfall and the 100mb is just you downloading vpk files and other core files like dlls and other manifest changesmost updates are not interesting but at least now you know how to check
>>503032707i want a Lyralei for xmas!
>>503041187>here's that redhead you wanted son!
>>503041717sex with lina
They're going to keep the minigames, right?
>>503042702lol no but they might end up reusing them for something if they bother to keep the framework
>>503041717ill take this one as well...
>>503042848why the fuck not?they arent going to lose server money over cheap minigames, no?
>>503044585Because they can't be assed to change the menu around to add a tab for 5 little minigames that people will ignore once they realise they don't give anything
>>503042702just alt tab and launch minesweeper bro
>>503045361Will I get free hats for playing minesweeper that way?
>>503045612you dont get free hats from dota sweeper either
I found this interaction funny.
>>503046125gooned too much to ench he has brainrot
>>503045843I do from vampire survivors
defend this
At what rank do these mongoloids stop hitting your jungle when you pull so they can miss out on lane creeps?
balance your game icefaggot
>>503012709>it actually pigeon holes heroes>because a hero doesn't do exactly what I think it will based on the attributeSmartest attribute hater
I barely put any effort into this game and still play above Immortal. Back in the 2000s, I'd obsessively practice my mechanics and strategize constantly in dota1Now I just pick whatever and skin through patch notes. It shows how low-effort this community is if I can play in the top 1% on instinct and muscle memory alone then anyone can.
>>503054434i highly doubt you are picking are terrible heroes which implies you are still putting in effort to play well, even if its not the same amount of effort you spent learning the game
no one knew how to play the game in allstars eithermerlini famously "invented" junglingnow everyone is min/maxing, aware of all the common lane tactics, they understand where and how to take a good team fight and when to press your advantage or when to gather resourcesno one does these things to perfection, but not even our most advanced ai could either
>>503051637Congrats smooth brain you missed the point entirely. It pigeon holes heroes because it forces them into archetypes because they get less value from certain key items other archetypes want to use. It has nothing to do with what " a hero is meant to do". It just means that certain heroes cant do certain things that they potentially could do just because of the attribute system.I'm not talking about right click lich, but heroes like silencer certainly suffer for it.
>>503054434>Skill based game is largely reliant on skill rather than knowledgeShocking
frick yes let me build butterfly heart silencer campo
>>503056161all int heroes suffer for itswitching most the range cores from int to universal was a bandaid
>>503051207guys, what if we tilt the map 45 degrees?
>erm actually I'm contributing more to the team than you are
>>503057017I literally cannot think of a good reason for them to do that Universal update and move all the heroes over other than as a bandaid fix as you said, but even then it doesnt make senseIt feels like it was more flavourful than actually gameplay related.Like Enigma or Io, Or chen. Literally nothing changed about their gameplay by making them universal
>>503057197the only thing that made sense was creating an attribute for the 4th spirit, void (spirit)tacky in its executioncould have been a new stat like wisdom or some shit
>>503057183based ultbot cm
>>503057197They lost stats gainNP still has +9.3 total.
>>502984045Back when Ringmaster came out, there were plenty of screenshots and clips of RM getting "banned" through two people picking him in the chat log but the game not banning him and the first person who picked him getting to keep him.If it's possible to ban Kez this way now, it just means Valve turned off ban protection.
>saudi item giveaway wasn't a scam, I was just unluckyoh. okay.I guess I can't have even a little arcana as a treat, God...
>>503057447And why was that needed? Did Venge need to lose stats? Did Snap? Enigga? Its shit like that, that really makes me feel like the valve devs dont understand dota at all anymore. The patches feel so different to the pre 7.00 ones
>>503059080it was necessary since they were given the ability to draw damage from all 3 attributesvenge used to have one the highest overall stat gains
i miss him
>>503061339he tried to be the Stephen A of dota but lacked any charisma to pull it offhis love of prostitutes was based cuz it gave Cap covid at TI10
>another episode of 30/0 enemy jumping under my tower and chasing me araund my jungle instead of just ending the gameBut btw if i disconnect from this or sit in fountain i will get banned :))Keep playing this even if everyone on the enemy team is 10 levels and 10k gold above you and can just run under your tower and casually tank it and kill you under it. :)))
>>503059474>It was necessaryIt was necessary BECAUSE they were changed to UniversalThe question is why were they changed to Universal in the first place.>Venge will be universal>Venge's stat gains are high so her damage will be too high, nerf her stat gain>Now her damage is roughly the same, but her stat gain is lower, and shes a purple hero instead of a green heroPic related
>>503062230swindlez had some charisma, the problem is that american sport anecdotes dont do well in a game with a european dominate audience
>>503062360fair enough, he was ten times better than the crap we have now and he had pretty good insight for about a year after his pro retirement
>>503062250Towers only protect you for like the first 3 minutes of the game anon. if that. This aint league
>>503062439there wasnt enough money in being an analyst to sustain himi dont blame him, that "career" is garbage
>play a game>get stuck as carry>my 5 literally walks up to the enemy axe, pulls creep aggro and dies>i queue midas and go jungle>everyone on my team starts yelling at me>the enemy team starts seething a few minutes later>never say a word>all 9 people are tilted >i'm just chilling in the jungle hittin creepsI made the right decision in checking out of that one.
>>503062343maybe venge didnt need to become universal, but heroes like wind ranger needed it
>>503062469Thanks, ChatGPT.
>>503061339why did he stop being "talent"/commentator?he hasn't done anything since 2021.
>>503062813the cabal didnt like his prostitute antics and he was excluded from some events in favor of other analysts which left him poorself destruction really
what happen
>>503062612wind ranger hasn't benefitted very much. they nerfed all stat gains so her dmg gain per level is actually barely higher while her hp is significantly lower. and windrunner just isn't a hero you get all stat items for anyway.
>>503063174she gains so much more damage from items that help her nowits a benefit
>>503063168he already had 54%+ i'm guessing the extra few percent is just because low number of matches
>>503063271no you don't, retard.you get gleipnir, daedalus and bkb.you actually get less dmg from that as universal than int lmao.
>>503063447at ti, micke was building gleipnir, bkb, hurricane gleipnir adds>25 main attack damage to int heroes.>17.5 main attack damage to universal heroes.bkb adds>10 main attack damage strength to heroes.>7 main attack damage to universal heroes.pike adds>15, 20 and 15 main attack damage to all str/agi/int heroes respectively.>35 main attack damage to universal heroes.40 damage for an int hero vs 59.5 damage for a universal heroits better damage, retard
>>503063749and you lose like 15 str.fact is that universal is not what made wind ranger good. she's still universal and now she's shit. weird huh?
>>503063864at lvl 30 she loses 330 hpwew>she's still universal and now she's shit. weird huh?yeah its called nerfs, not that weird if you arent acting like a dipshit
>>503063992383 hp
>>503064132ooooknow she can buy a satanic and gain 17.5 damage
>7.37eWHAT THE FUCK WHERE IS 7.38
>>503064583at least 3 months away
We're getting pushed by np and ta and my antimage gets midas after bf. You have to love it
>>503064640Years*
>7.37f>7.37g>7.37h>7.37i>7.37j
>>503064819a long enough patch cycle to make melee cores great again
>>503062612>>503063271So she "needed" to become universal so she could be better core because Int is a garbage primary attributeSo they invented a whole ass new attribute that was a marginal side grade, wherein she occasionally ends up with slightly higher damage but her health+regen, armour and attack speed are all lower on average and she gets lets damage from the int items she buysFucking wew lad. What a shitty idea. Why didnt they just rework the attributes instead so Int doesnt suck
>First pick support>Get counter picked by burst>I stack enough HP for their sick combos to not matter>Win
