Oil Edition>Previous>>502885580>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>MAJOR NEWSSep 17: 60-Day Patch 1 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7147864422081646859Sep 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXisOct 15: 60-Day Patch 2 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7291982050853715743Oct 31: Truth Enforcers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m053YyNixugNov 13: Democracy Space Station https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/1856900453667164360>LATEST PATCHNov 12 1.001.203 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4445709535659688161
Contento wa doko desu ka?
>>503041439コンテント?
Take a EAT that belongs to me? Bayonet.
>>503041893Wearing ugly armor? Bayonet
>>503033326ggs
>decide to give Flamethrower another honest chance because why not>it's excruciating as fuck because it has no crowd control by itself and you're stupidly vulnerable to flanking due to how badly it handles>ammo consumption is terrible, its only saving grace is that its DPS kills most enemies before they can get close enough to hit you>constantly setting yourself on fire so Inflammable armor is mandatory>you even have to sink your primary slot into close defense because the Flamethrower is unreliable at it>and if you bring Gas Grenades for your own crowd control, you outright lose the ability to close Bug HolesThis thing has more problems than what AH addressed about it in the 60-day update. Like, besides re-reverting the particle mechanics to Escalation of Freedom, it needs buffs to ammo consumption, handling, and fire dot damage needs to actually be useful. Hell, there probably need to be multiple fire status effects besides regular burning and Napalm burning, make the Cookout and Breaker Incendiary inflict its current burning status while making the flamethrower burning something actually useful like inflicting slow.
>>503042345Most of it would be fixed if they gave it realistic flamethrower range. But of course, realism only works one way with AH.
>>503042345bro your halt stun rounds? your autist seed spreadsheet?
>>503042345Slow or stagger. Honestly, it shouldnt be so weak at close range with so many downsides for such small upsides. It doesn't even melt chargers like it used to.Peak physique helps it though at least.
>>503042345Bring a ballistic guard dog and it'll help keep shit off you better.
>>5030410622/4
>>503033326ggs anons
>>503042638Sadly, you can't bring Peak Physique since you absolutely need Inflammable. Like, I don't actually mind having to wear Inflammable when using a flamethrower, but at least don't make the weapon require another perk just to not be shit.>>503042867That's the whole other problem with the weapon, why should you need something to keep enemies off your back at close range? It's a fucking flamethrower, anything that gets close to me while I have this thing going should literally melt into puddles of goo.
>>503043441You want the cursed flamethrower guide?Supply pack, medic armor, gas grenades and stim.Just keep stimming at all times and never move back. Throw gas out like crazy and you'll kill everything. There's a lot of anti bughole shit. Eats help, and you can use the torcher too because you will just have a shit ton of time to just mulch them. The real problem will be your teammates killing you when you go in to solo the breach.
>>503043441>why should you need something to keep enemies off your back at close range?Because your turn rate is slow and your movespeed is shit while you are holding down M1. It's very intentionally designed that spraying will leave you vulnerable without someone covering your ass from something ganking you.
>>503033326not gg boys, i am so washed up and the OPS is bad. vid unrelated
>>503042913join kiddos
>>5030429133/4
a really nice qol improvement would be to add a max donation button on the dss
>>503043714o-ops bad?
>>503042913Full
>>503044919Even better would be being able to acces the dss screen from the "hub" instead of through the mission select console.
>>503046257it's weird, I thought that was what the bureau terminal across the armory was for. Now I really don't know what the point of it it
>>503045442yes. bad.
The siege upon Managed Democracy continues.
>>503041334The greatest Helldivers and Super Earth Leaders are all Indian as the datamining of official infor mation showed us. Is it any really question? Indians are the mightiest warriors in the Human History and loved by all women and young females.Glory to Super Earth my friends. We will lead you into the gratest acheievements.
>>503047340Is this why my diver's skin is always poo colored?
spoonfeed me a fun bugdiver build, I'm bored
>>503048146Airburst RLAirburst StrikeEagle Cluster Bombs
>>503048146Constitution + recoilessTry and make it work. It's really fun when you figure out the strengths of constitution.
>>503041980Ask to be killed by bayonet? Bayonet
>>503048146>Torcher>Crisper>Flame impacts>Flamethrower support weapon>Eagle Napalm>Orbital Napalm Barrage>Supply PackI'd say bring Firebug hellpods but you'll likely get kicked if you do that
>RR + EAT + Commando + Railgun Orbital Why yes, I am a king. How could you tell.
>>503041062>that final extractggs
>>503042345Isn't the game easy enough already?
>>5030429133/4 bots 10s this time
>>503049610To be fair at this point it's not about easy, it's about using the content we have, to have fun.
Speaking of shitty meme weapons, how do I make sterilizer fun without just relying on gun drone?
>>503049826idk, pair it with the torcher and use it purely for cc?
>>503049826I use it only in a full brap loadout. You between brap dog, gas nades and gas strike you can keep a breach on lockdown for a long time. The sterilizer comes with a lot of ammo. I like doing that.
>>503049826melee em' sterilzer in hand
>>503048854>>503048889>>503049121thanks
>>503049826Arrowhead should make fart clouds explode if hit with fire. That would make the Sterilizer fun, keep the Crisper on hand for just that purpose.
>>503033438Your thermites? Your EATs? Anon, dont act like you can struggle against bugs. You are not that bad, right?
If there's an update today it'll be in ~2 hours, right?
>>503051508Yes, 11 CET.
>>503051239
>>503049693forgot to mention had to get my slop out of the ovenwill rejoin once it's consoomed or will host a splinter lobby if that one fills agane
>>503042345>Increase size and range of flame thrower>Crashes PS5 users There is your answer
>>503051508There is no update coming, there would be leaks if there was
>>503053217retard hotfixes and patches usually don't have any leaks associated
>>503053326Yes they do, stay ill-informed
>>503053348>they showed the papers for the 60 day patch therefore ummmm they always do leaks?autism
>flamethrower with smokeyea or nay? also how effective is smoke vs bugs? or does the flamethrower make you get too close to bugs for it to work?
>>503053518>I am ignorant and proud I can tell
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244366444722/
>>503053617Smoke does literally nothing. The only viable flamethrower build is armor with fire resistance, stratagem flamethrower and a jetpack. Plus Halt if you have it so you can stun chargers to burn them.
>>503042345>constantly setting yourself on fireThis shit right here is why i don't use it anymore, i won't even entertain the thought of grabbing one when i'm doing a "bring no strategem weapon 2" run
>>503053767smoke's pretty good vs bots, I'm just not sure how bugs react to it
>>503042345the only reason it was good in the first place was because it cooked behemoths when behemoths were the most troublesome enemy on bugsthey've completely trivialized bugside heavies to the point that everything else can do it easily, so it has 0 niche since if you wanna be up close you're better off just using arc thrower
>>5030537322/4
>>503047340Beautiful my friend. Beautiful. >>503048019It is not poo color. You are.
>>5030537323/4
I'm tired of people demanding new content, the game state could be the final patch and I would not even complain about it since it had enough dynamics that still now I find new way to play it.I'm not expecting new content and when it arrived I'm either glad or have to deal with it like DSS.you want new content now? play something else
>>5030547814/4
>>503053217oh like the leaks that were posted multiple times already?
>>503054861You're talking to zoomer faggots that grew up with candied dogshit like Destiny and Fortnite. You could explain why for a hundred years straight and they still wouldn't understand why this game can't have a bi-weekly season pass with loads of FOMO content no cap on god fr fr.
>>503055267fortnite and destiny seem to be doing well with regular content updates thoughever
>can now predict with 100% accuracy every enemy seed before the mission even starts>finally have a good reason to start using stratagems I rarely use
>>503055367i think that's his point
>>503055367fucking retard
>>503055553why cant ah do itmuh small indie company
>>503055367Nigga, destiny 2 content is usually making you play years old shit again with new coat of paint. Oh and also they took it away in the first place
>>503054861>>503055267I dont think you know what live service game means.
why couldn't steeled veterans have a light armor set instead of 2 mediums for no reason? don't say sweden give me a real answer
>Eagle Storm has been sitting at 3% for 24 hours>People dont even want to donate their pointless samples to it Lol. DSS is dead.
>>503056026Stockholm
>>503055367HD2 gets a big patch every month, so what you people are complaining about it?
>>503056084I won't be donating samples to eagles until they fix the host getting the kill credits simple as
>>503056320Is this big patch in the room with us right now?
>>503056084Why would I donate for a bonus that might end up somewhere I don't want to play?
>>503056320balance patches are not contentdropping numbers and reducing a gun's mag size does not take a month
>>503056084Swedes are throttling the gain so it doesn't go live until they want it to, just wait for the sudden incline once it's time
>>503056597I think he's talking about the 1-2 guns, 0-1 boosters, 3 cosmetics and 1 armor perk we get the new warbond every month
I've been thinking, with how the left Gar Haren with 0 resistance, why don't they make more planets also at 0 resistance? it would make more sense that planets that are either cut off or are sending their forces to invade another planet wouldn't be able to mount a significant resistance, it would allow gambits to be valid strategies instead of something you only do when the planet is 70% captured already
>>503056005It means fuckall. Meaningless marketing buzz term.
>>503056727>we get the new warbond every month(should I... should I tell him??)
>>503056597now tell me one game that drops content every month that isn't a card game
>>503056814most of this tread uses the app and yet no effort has been made on just playing on Gar Haren untill the blobs follows
>>503057324I believe most of this thread is high skill players that won't play bugs anymore because they're too easy and boring
>>503057324bugs are fucking boring, even the most braindead shit loadouts can clear them
>>503057324>most of this tread uses the appwow a whopping 80 people tops, assuming of course each reply is one person which obviously isn't, not even 1% of the playerbase
>>503057324>the appWhat? You guys got an app to be a better MOwagie or something?Becouse that would be hillarious.
I shan't be donating to the DSS because I haven't finished upgrading my ship yet
>>503057324devs need to do something about tree heavy biomes cucking stratagems and crashing games, dad gamers aren't going to put up with that shit without a planet specific MO
>>503057324I've been doing D10 Gar Harens all yesterday. The planet is okay, if not annoying because only straffing run is really viable as a eagle strat on that biome, but it's sometimes nice to just have 200+ meters of sight to snipe at clumps of mobs with the airclussy launcher. The big tree maps favor sterilizer/flamer nicely, though, since they tend to create a lot of choke points.
>>503057740my ship will never be fully upgraded because I refuse to get the sentry one
>>503058017last one I need is the second-to-last sentry one, don't plan on getting the mortar one either
>>503058114I'm going to hate the day they force us to take it
>>503056084No, you don't get to vote or contribute, you are just sending your votes and samples into the void.
>>503057740My ship is fully upgraded and I'm at the caps but I'm still not donating because the DSS is shit and picking up samples for it is more of a hassle than its worth
>>503058114>>503058017Why? It makes mortars not the worst stratagem anymore.
>>503042345>>503053835like multiple have said, the best improvement it could have is simply increasing the range by at least 30%, if not 50-60it would make it so much more viable and reduce the odds of you lighting yourself on fire; and the reason you light your self on fire is because either the fire splashes off a hunter onto you, or you light your feet on fire when trying to dive to avoid said hunterit doesn't help that the flame effect is so wide so it blinds you most of the time to what enemies are rushing and eventually hitting youadditionally a slow effect on enemies would be really nice, but just increased range would be an immense improvement without affecting balance
>>503058273it's the opposite of how I use pings, I want to ping big enemies for teammates to know it exists. But I don't want my mortars to waste time shooting at it
>>503054861The game is extremely easy now which makes it pretty boring. It's disappointing when most /vg/ lobbies can play on d10 with no comms or teamwork and consistently full map clear with no deaths.
>>5030579384
>>503054861this is a live service gamethe entire point is that they release regular content updatesand for the first few months that is what they did regularlyit is to be expected, you should be expecting itESPECIALLY since of the 12 or so planned live service games sony planned to release this year, only like 3 launched, with concord being one of them (i think the third got canceled) leaving just helldivers for sony to pour their resources into>play something elseand thus the game dies
>>503058585Just stop bringing RR, sentries, barrages and thermite or reduce how many you bring and the game gets harder.
reminder that irons1ghts is a fraud nigger and he posts fake leaksalso i fucked his mom multiple times and he definitely browses /hdg/
>>503047340>>503054264Pasty white/hapa nerd hands typed these posts
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4445709535659688161ITS UPITS UPITS UPnew stratagems and new terminid enemy types.
>>503060252HOLY SHIT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT's this easy to spread misinformation
>>503060252The gloom is here!
>503060252i can tell that you just copied the latest news link retard
>>503058715Shut up, please shut the fuck up. "Live service" is nothing but a cancer and traps devs in unsustainable sweatshop conditions. Which are the opposite of how AHS wants to operate. You should have known what you bargained for when you bought an Arrowhead game. They're a small, slow paced, indie studio. Again, you should have known and expected this. You have nobody else to blame for your overblown expectations. So fuck off back to genshin incel, cawadoody or whatever else the dumbest/poorest generation is playing at the moment.>b-but then le game diesIrrelevant, as long as I can get three others to play with, player count can drop indefinitely for all I care. Muh galactic war is irrelevant and may as well be scrapped.
>503060653Haha! Great copypasta, friendo! Take my upvote!
>>503058291Mechanic-wise I think Darktide has one of the best implementations currently and Helldivers should copy that one. In Darktide, Flamethrower staggers anything smaller than a Charger-equivalent. However its direct DPS is rather low and it relies on stacking burning effect to deal damage. This elegantly fixes nearly all flamer issues:- It feels good and useful against hordes, tradeoff being limited range and being useless against elite enemies- You can kill medium-tier enemies (like Brood Commanders) but its inefficient if they are isolated, directing you to flame mediums mixed into hordes and shooting them with normal guns if they're alone
Where is the patch.....You guys told me it was coming today....
>>503060653>They're a small, slow paced, indie studio.HD2 is published by Sony and Arrowhead is 120 people large you stupid nigger.
>charge railgun to 99% to blow up a hunter during a SC run since I'm fucking around>railgun shot bounces off the hunter's head and flies into the sky
>>503060951This week, they promised... surely tomorrow or... or in the weekend, yes deffinitly in the weekend.
>>503060653>a cancer and traps devs in unsustainable sweatshop conditionssucks to be them then, but that's the path they chose>opposite of how AHS wants to operateyet that's what they chose to operate>They're a smallthey're a large AAA studio of over 100 employees>you should have known and expected thisi expected them to release the regular updates they had stated they were going to regularly release and had proven that they were capable and willing to release because of the updates they were regularly releasing after launchnow promptly kill yourself
>>503061287>fire EAT at a tank turret>gets deflected into the stratosphere
>>503060951>>503061421T-They are playtesting the patch! It will come today! T-Trust the fucking plan! ....
>>503061857That's common, hunters heads aren't supposed to bounce AT weaponry, especially from close range.
>>503062195It's almost 12 o'clock in sweden, the workday is almost done.Patch tomorrow.
>>503061424>buys a game from a swedish studio>expects constant updatesYou must be the dumbest retard alive.You also expect your eastern european games to be easy to get into or your japanese games to make sense?
>>503062324>patch tomorrow>HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH ARTHUR, ONE MORE DAY AND WE WILL BE FARMING MANGOES IN TAHITI, WE JUST NEED MORE MONEY ARTHURThere won't be a patch this week is it?
>>503062554eastern euro games are easy to get into thoughand i don't play nip shit
>>503062324>>503062963>releasing a patch on a fridaynah, no patch this week. tuesday or bust.
>>503062963>>503063132These faggots better be working on the striper clips for the constitution, remove the bullet spread on the reprimand and doing a complete overhaul on the DSS mechanic to compensate for a whole week of radio silent. God I swear those swedes are even lazier than niggers
>>503060959120 isnt big. BO6 was worked on by thousands.
>>503063524Don't forget, they also need to give throwing knive projectiles the crosbow treatment.
>MO about fighting on whatever planet you want>bugniggers hoarding the DSS all for themselves, there's more votes to move to station to bug planets than bots
>>503061424What the fuck even is this amerimutt-tier arguing? Nobody should have to suffer at their job, no matter what they do.
>>503063805I mean... is the dss even worth voting for?
>>503053732ggs
>>503064479autism
>>503064479where the hell is the wall stratagem that they teased?
>>503064526>tfw your eHMG isn't in a comfy pit, and is vulnerable to enemy rockets
>>503064716only direct chicken rockets, and cannon blasts from tanks/towers can kill it
>>503064716>get tossed around in the pit like a salad
Efficacy aside, what is the Peacemaker supposed to be?Liberator is a Tavor, Tenderizer is a VHS-2, Verdict is a Desert Eagle, etc.The royal armories guy just skipped right over it and didn't compare it to anything.
>guy is clearly afk in game>other guys keep reinforcing him whenever he dies instead of kicking himdon't understand why the host didn't kick him even after we called in pelican 1
>>503063805Bugs can have it, DSS turned out to be a giant steaming nothingburger turd
>>503064851the solution is to simply make the pit largeralso id rather be ragdolled in a pit than ragdolled out in the open. sure the ragdoll can have its duration extended due to the slope but it's ultimately worth it considering the hp saved from a reduced amount of projectiles that are within the angle of acceptancemore importantly, no amount of logic can possibly cure me of my addiction to trench kinography
Oh. There really wasn't an update today.
>>503063880t. zoomer who's never worked a day in his life>go to job at ball crushing factory>och mein gott, mein nut ist flatten!!some jobs suckthat's life
>>503056026>don't say sweden give me a real answer>what's 2+2 and don't say 4 give me a REAL answer
>>503064479hulldown. unbothered. entrenched. happy. in his lane. focused. flourishing.
>>503064479It's really a shame that the grenade launcher is our best digging tool right now
>>503065742why is it a shame?it's a top 5 support weapon on bots
>>503065828Because it means entrenching takes up 3 stratagem slots (GL + supply pack + eHMG)I just want a nice shovel or something.
>>503065876>meleenever, AH seems to be vehemently against the idea of melee for some reason
>>503065876The grenade pistol makes a nice little hole you can quickly dive into in the most retarded+niche situations.
>digging holesgo back to deep reddit galatic
>>503065981>digging holes is a new concept
>>503065545
really? no patch this week? no content at all? did shitting out that awful DSS tucker AH out that bad?
>>503067179first time with a swede?
>>503066390
sweden'd
>>503067847
Things can always be worse.
>>503061424>updates they were regularly releasing after launchah yes brilliant updates like [nerfing popular weapon]