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Love and Unity Edition
Previously on /coopg/: >>503338793

>Latest News/Updates:

Darktide: Grim Protocols - Releasing 3 December
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-grim-protocols-releasing-3-december/101611
Darktide Released Slop : https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Commodore%27s_Vestures

Vermintide 2:
VERSUS IS OUT
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/4490746800993468496

Helldivers 2:
Patch 1.001.102
https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___

Wartracker:
https://helldivers.io/
Info:
https://divers.gg

Deep Rock Galactic:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/

Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749

Payday 3:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/

Remnant 2:
The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___

Earth Defense Force 6
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Left 4 Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
The Forever Winter
No More Room in Hell 2

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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First for psykers tongue my anus
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So do we have any info, hints, or suggestions from Fatshark if they'll ever introduce another class or race to play as or even a new enemy faction to fight against? I read in the previous general that there were hints on Genestealers but I don't think Ive ever come across any hints on Tyranids in Darktide
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Daily reminder you should be a Shield taunt FnP Ogryn
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daily reminder that I am a power greatsword zealot main and I AM the main character of any given team I am on
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>I don't like doing heavy attacks
why is this such a common opinion? And why do they play dueling sword
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>>503447971
no dueling sword player says this, maybe inquire with power sword, combat/tac axe, or catachan users
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>>503447971
Heavy hitter kill penance is brain numbing and chaining only heavies makes me fall asleep.
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>wtf why are they repeating weaves?
They're not repeating weaves. This is another example of the live service tencent chink brainrot. Remember when suit said
>make them grind shitty droprate item with no way to deterministically craft stat, this is good for retention!
and it was total dogshit? Well this time suit said
>make them do competitive gamemode with rank! this is good for twitch viewership!
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>>503447794
>>503447931
Both of these posts emanate homosexuality
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>>503448334
projection
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>>503448334
I'm big an strong
I protect my team
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>>503447414
No, not really. If Fatshark is going to add a new anything, be it enemies or class, I can assure you they’re going to give a bigger hint than just a few throw away lines of dialogue. As things are, they’re just focused on everything else
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Nighty night /coopg/. I'm sleepy.
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>>503447414
The hint is that another hive city on the planet fell to genestealer cultists.
For whatever its worth adding such a enemy faction would at least be feasible as a ton of enemies could just be reskinned. Regular shooters, gunners, shotgunners etc are all represented.
Its more feasible than another class at least.
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4 More Days until the arrival of PlaystationBVLLS. New life and vigor will be bred into our game and general. Rejoice.
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>>503448905
That'd be such a nice breath of fresh air, literally with Nurgle we've been dealing with for two years.
Just something to mix it up from the Nurgle hordes
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>>503447414
We don't know.
At best I think we'll see a next class MAYBE in like 2025 november at the earliest.
As for other enemy factions? Same story.
People have talked about genestealers due to those voicelines mentioning the other hivecity that some of the psyker characters describing that they see/feel a "shadow looming" all over the 2nd hivecity.
But still it is just wishlisting.
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>>503448481
this
when there’s something concrete you can be sure these fuckers are going to wave it around and make sure everyone knows so you can’t call them lazy
everything thus far is pure speculation
>>503449565
good. some fresh blood is what this game desperately needs right about now. we need a good shake up.
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>>503450821
I just hope that since Fatshark finished the PS5 port and made the VS thing for vermintide, they will now focus on making more content for Darktide.
Since there isn't much else they can do now
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>>503449565
Based. Game is going to actually be fun again with some new players. Tired of playing with old smelly jaded farts that have everything minmaxed with their tranny dueling swords one shotting everything.
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>>503448124
I got it in just a few missions without trying. Maybe your weapon sucks
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How do I get the ASS title? The average player in Maelstrom is fucking shit. I don't want to scum it either.
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>>503449565
I unironically foresee fun times ahead. I’m sure some of them will at least get the hang of it sooner than later. Until then, funny times
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>>503452189
Play with me, join my aurics
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>>503452189
I got it on my first try with randos. Just got lucky
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im sick of fighting chinkoids in versus
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>>503452189
You drop your code when I'm free and we play 5 maelstroms together (have to be on NA though).
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>>503452189
post lobby, I will help you
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>>503452189
if you go down last and the mission ends before you die it doesn't break your streak
so be the last man standing every time and you'll get it sooner or later
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I'm joining your aurics
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>>503452257
>>503452292
No joke though, I've played ratclick with random dudes from here and you lot seem a lot better at the game than random dudes from anywhere else. I would love to kick ass at 5 consecutive Maelstroms with you guys.
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>>503452541
>poverty cosmetics
>dogshit melee weapon
You better believe you'd get kicked
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>>503452628
You forgot
>female vet
And I'd be carrying your ass!
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>>503449565
I can't even imagine playing this game with a controller.
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>>503452543
Some guys from here did a few missions together and one of them posted a scoreboard and they all sucked ass. The era of skilled ratclickers is over, darktide has attracted a lot of terrible shitters
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>>503452543
So post a lobby? I'm not joking when I say I will join it and make your run easy.
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>>503452189
I just did it by brute forcing it.
Eventually I got it.
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>>503452370
Maybe some other time. I really appreciate the offer though. This one time, I used the party finder to do the private penances. The dude helped me so I helped him with the auric exemplar penance. got him to 10 auric missions without being killed
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>>503449565
i cannot wait to commit terrorism in malice
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>>503452543
idk why there's fear about it. The people here are incredibly chill. Autisticly stubborn about their opinions during internet arguments? Sure, a vocal few, but that isn't a factor if we're playing together.
I've played with a guy here a while back and it was like playing pool at a bar. He didn't care what we played, didn't do voice, didn't grief like aggroing DH then leaving, didn't make any faggy drama webms, didn't whine/bitch or do anything autistic if either of us got downed, he was just there and we carried. Occasionally he exchanged a mild joke, and he gave me advice on my build when I asked.
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>>503452682
You'd be in the mourningstar wondering what just happened
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>>503453183
>He didn't care what we played, didn't do voice, didn't grief like aggroing DH then leaving, didn't make any faggy drama webms, didn't whine/bitch or do anything autistic if either of us got downed
One day one you are gonna play with me, you're gonna regret it
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>>503452690
imagine it baby. we’re almost there.
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>>503453246
Fun fact, I have never been kicked in over 3600 hours of combined playtime between VT2 and Darktide.
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They should add sex to darktide.
Just add a small stripclub where all the female zealots are dancing onto Mourning star somewhere in the corner near Krall and commissary.
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>>503454669
well memed!
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Why are scottish girls and their slurring speech so hot?
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>>503454693
>joins your auric
>dies
>leaves
:)
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Challenge: Prevent the PlayStation players from dying, no matter what.
I bet none of you can pull this off.
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>>503454669
>>503454921
Fatshark enabling crossplay with PC and consoles for darktide was a bad decision.
Because of consoles now we have smaller hordes and ambushes. And it feels like they happen less often too.
All console ports of PC games is a mistake.
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>>503455107
You're right I can't, because console players gravitate to psyker for all the autoaim shit and just blow themselves up.
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>>503454820
god i just want to see her get caught by an entire stormvermin patrol and plapped until every last set of blackfu balls had been drained into her twice over
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>>503455679
Why would Skaven be attracted to a human body? Don't they have Skaven females that are just big birthing machines?
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>>503455751
>Why would niggers be attracted to a white woman? Don't they have nigger women that are just big birthing machines?
Some things are just better than others and even the inferior ones realise it.
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>>503455107
>I bet none of you can pull this off.
Well obviously since those retards will just fuck off and die on their own anyway.
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here's your autogun bro :)
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>>503455751
why would a dog want to fuck a white woman
why would a white woman want to fuck a dog
it is an enduring mystery
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>>503456889
>ammo dump stat
literally ruined trash it right now
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>>503455186
it's just events bricking bro I've been in maelstroms with nonstop spawns and other ones where literally nothing happens at key objectives
or could the console boogeyman be real??
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>>503455186
Fatshark's contempt for pc players is so prevalent console players can opt out off crossplay but not pc
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>>503454921
>more enemies to kill
what's the problem again
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yuropoor lobby?
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>>503455107
I can't, because I am deliberately barreling, shooting poxbursters and stealth dumping aggro on them.
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>>503458404
post
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>>503455107
>fresh level 30 psyker snoys with useless builds in auric damn HISTG with 5 wounds, no headphones, and an inability to survive longer than 2 seconds in melee
>dog magnet, trapper magnet, barrel magnet, only doesn't instantly down because crystalline will saves them, panics and jumps off a cliff whenever more than 2 ragers appear
Honestly sounds impossible.
I don't think the first couple days will be all that problematic for anyone that has made it past heresy/damnation, but after the first week, maybe two, these retards will start infesting our aurics.
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>>503458716
am in the party finder
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>>503458575
Is stealth dumping aggro just you playing Salad and just using shroudfield.
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>>503459029
btw what are the breakpoints for the hellbore? Am not garanteed to one tap gunners even when I click the head
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hello i will be your auric malestorm teammate today
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Man KSX8's interactions are such a treat to listen to compared to the rest
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>>503459537
Fly, little servo-skull!
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NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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>>503460171
I'm in this screenshot
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>>503452690
is he dead?
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I saw Remnant 2 is half off, is it worth getting?
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>>503460171
>play meme build
>get memed on
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>>503452628
OK now I'm really joining your aurics. You better dodge me.
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>>503460402
I think so.
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>high level player
>rushes ahead
>dies
>leaves
i have such utter contempt for leavers since they are either children or adults with no control over their emotions
then again I suppose they are only slightly better than the shitters who are constantly dead and who refuse to leave so you are effectively down a man the entire game
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Where were you when general was kill
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Am I crazy, or is anyone else starting to notice that ASS is somehow becoming the sure-mark of a shitter?

I swear 2/3 of the people I see with the title are level <100 and play like retards, while the actual competent ones are using something else or nothing at all.
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>>503462306
It doesn't really surprise me, seeing as ASS speaks very little to the player being actually good. In fact, I'd argue it's the mark of a shitter most of the time, since there are only a handful of ways to reliably get it. The kinds of players you get are just too random to reliably win 5 games in a row.
>be an actual carry god and somehow scrape by with several dead weights
>get extremely lucky and find competent players 5 games in a row
>group up with competent players, likely through the trannycord
>alt+F4 20 times in a row until you find a group that can carry you
With how many quitters I see, it's definitely leaning heavily toward the latter, especially considering how bad those players tend to be.
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>>503462306
It has been the mark of a shitter since its inception. Nobody who is good at the game marks themselves as such.
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>>503446667
>not an elf thread
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Do people have no shame in using the auric survivor title while still playing like a malice shitter? I would be embarrassed personally.
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>>503455107
It will take them some time to make it to my aurics
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>>503464958
I'm sure you can tell by the average pub match that nobody gives a shit about anything in this game
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>levelling up my Ogryn
>decide to move it up to heresy
>is genuinely harder than playing damnation on my max characters simply due to almost everyone being new and bad
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when do veteran and zealot become fun to play?
ogryn and psyker are both fun from the start
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>>503465479
Veteran Shout genuinely breaks the game also. You're now playing in lobbies where not every Vet is glazing you in gold toughness 24/7.
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>>503465746
Zealot is always fun
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>>503465746
Zealot is only fun when you get to clutch, the only thing that Zealot is meant to do.
Vet is fun when you have autism and like shooting things.
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>>503465746
Veteran becomes fun once you get kraks, shout, and the toughness resist over 75% bottom center tree. You'll likely be able to pivot out of kraks once your weapons actually become competent at dealing with bosses and carapace, but until then, they're really nice to have.
Zealot becomes fun as soon as you get to use the weapon you like the most.
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>>503465746
Depends on what you consider fun. Personally I think Executioner's Stance is extremely fun because you can theoretically keep the ability going for multiple minutes as long as you never stop getting kills on highlighted enemies.

Zealot has several fun things available. I think throwing knives are cool and fun to use. The Chorus is a fun support tool cus it's fun to go "the power of Christ compels you" at enemies Uuuuuuuuh other that it's not super interesting in practice. You're a melee blender so you're just going to be mashing m1 in melee 95% of the time.
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>>503466770
>Executioner's Stance is extremely fun because you can theoretically keep the ability going for multiple minutes as long as you never stop getting kills on highlighted enemies
Which is unfortunately really hard outside of aurics, especially below damnation. Not to mention that it's quite difficult to carry with, when your weapons suck, and your teammates are dead weight.
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>>503465746
The bottom left and bottom right Veteran keystones are both fun in my opinion and add a layer of minigame that's fun.
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>>503465746
>when do veteran and zealot become fun to play?
>ogryn and psyker are both fun from the start
Other way around more like, and even then it is just ogryn.
There is only 1 way to build ogryns effectively and it is just heavy hitter.
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>>503467217
>being this traumatized by retarded loogers hogging all the ammo, and your own skill issue in getting the weapon on target
retard
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>>503465746
>psyker fun from the start but vet not
psyker doesn't get any interesting powers until they have access to assail and smite or a decent staff, its just a vet with less durability and the ability to think really hard until then
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Is the browser shop viewer extension broken?
What it's showing doesn't match what's actually in game anymore and many entries are just broken text.

Used to be useful for collecting max stat weapons and curios without having to open the game every hour.
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>>503467285
Gunlugger is shit and burns through ammo, and even then you are reliant on using heavy attacks to regain any toughness in any meaningful way because shit like steady grip is retarded. Especially on auric damnation.
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>>503465479
Heresy is pretty comfy for my Ogryn. With my toughness regen, I can go around bashing everything with my shield and I'm unkillable for the most part.
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>>503467697
>deprecated extension
I can't shake the feeling that abandoned extensions just turn into keyloggers over time
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>>503467734
Steady grip gives you just enough toughness regen to survive firefights if you add some gunner resist on your 3x17+5 toughness curios. It is good. There are situations where you might not be able to melee for various reasons, and it lets you easily tank and walk through tox clouds, for example. It doesn't even slow you down much if you just brace while sliding. Achlys stubber has a fast swap so juggling between it and melee is literally never an issue.
>even then you are reliant on using heavy attacks to regain any toughness
This is still true for the most part, and going full tilt right tree is fucking retarded because the top row of talents is just that good. Even burst limiter override isn't strictly necessary, but I wouldn't want to give up mobile emplacement either way.
>Gunlugger is shit and burns through ammo
Is also patently false. Ogryn melee is so retardedly OP that you barely need to commit your build to it, just look at karsolas pick. You need neither the bleed nor heavy hitter to wipe the floor with smaller mixed hordes. Large mixed hordes you just fucking mow down with your ult.
If the gunlugger plays correctly, he'll use less ammo than the average non-las veteran. Again, skill issue. Git gud.
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I've barely touched my Psyker, but Gun Psyker seems super fun on paper
>By properly managing your Peril you can stay in Scrier's Gaze indefinitely, like you can with Veteran's Executioner's Stance
>Disrupt Destiny adds an extra minigame of going for marked enemies in order to maintain your stacks
sounds awesome
thematically it's also pretty cool
using space magic to make yourself a better gunslinging cowboy
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>>503468187
>Steady grip gives you just enough toughness regen to survive firefights if you add some gunner resist on your 3x17+5 toughness curios.
Or you could just learn to dodge gunners and kill them in melee where they are the most vulnerable.
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>>503468187
>Steady grip gives you just enough toughness regen to survive firefights if you add some gunner resist on your 3x17+5 toughness curios.
Or you could just learn to dodge gunners and kill them in melee where they are the most vulnerable.
Said firefights are bad because again, you will just be burning through your ammo because ogryn weapons don't have good accuracy.
Or hell even better yet, just get the fucking Rock.
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>>503467285
Feel no pain is a joke, 25% toughness damage resistance is worthless when you have batter and delight in destruction.
And less we talk about burst limiter memeride the better.
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>>503469014
>>503469135
Yes, because you can magically teleport over there, through several dozen enemies blocking your path, a lake of fire, and avoid hounds and trappers along the way.
You're right in the context of playing melee, with a melee build, a gun that isn't even worth shooting for suppression, and you probably have bull rush to solve your mobility issues.
You also don't get to delete bosses in like 8 seconds, don't get to delete entire mixed hordes with the press of a button, and if you bring rock, can't bail out someone getting downed in a horrible position like nuke can. Being a different playstyle doesn't make it bad, it's you being bad at it that makes it bad.

>you will just be burning through your ammo because ogryn weapons don't have good accuracy
This is how you out yourself as being bad at ogryn. Stop talking.
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>>503467734
nice opinions bub but uhhhhh I'm just gonna LOOOOOOOOOOOOG okay?
haha I'm LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGING!!!!
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>zealot does it for no ammo
>vet shoots plasma once
>psykers delete them instantly
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>>503452628
>dogshit melee weapon
You CAN join my aurics, metasissy.
To spectate me soloclutch for you while I am doing x2 work in the match.
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>>503469834
Okay, which one were you?
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>>503469946
2nd
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>>503468187
>Steady grip gives you just enough toughness regen to survive firefights if you add some gunner resist on your 3x17+5 toughness curios.
On veteran, Exhilarating Takedown, Confirmed Kill and Tunnel Vision let you tank gunners on their own without fucking up your curios.
Or hell, if we're talking about surviving firefights, just take Ghost on any class and all ranged engagements become literally free.
Ogryn just gets to eat shit. You spend an unreasonable amount of ammo doing literally anything but killing monstrosities. You're just coping hard about Ogryns not being complete garbage because maybe, just maybe they can somewhat approach the capabilities of other classes if they go balls deep on doing one specific thing and fucking up the rest of their kit in the process.

That being said, I think it's more that everyone else is OP as fuck than Ogryn being bad. True solo shouldn't be this easy.
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>>503469834
>>503469986
>machinery/gadget operated
>jack shit
>while the guy on the far right had nearly the same stats where it mattered (elites, disablers, specials) AND did most of the objectives
>2nd never touched a single objective and obviously sat around spawncamping poxie hordes for 20 minutes
>clutch
nigger
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>>503470129
You WILL do the objective while I play the game and you GONNA like it
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i just lost two matches in a row on level 2 diff
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>>503470129
47 is not nearly 67
31 is not nearly 48
there's a 50% difference there dude
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>>503469834
>censoring all names so you can pretend to be the guy who carried you
Yikes...
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>>503470002
>You're just coping hard about Ogryns not being complete garbage
What is it with you copeg niggers constantly schizoposting? I never said anything about ogryn being better than or as good as other classes in general. I wouldn't even say there are many situations where ogryn really excels compared to other classes. Stop making shit up, take your fucking meds.

This is purely on an ogryn build vs other ogryn build basis, in which case I firmly believe that gunlugger competently pulls its weight. Even in comparison to other classes, if you play it well, it's completely fine, and far from griefing.
And, again
>You spend an unreasonable amount of ammo doing literally anything
Way to out yourself as a shitter.
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>>503469570
Go big man go!
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>>503470391
>I wouldn't even say there are many situations where ogryn really excels compared to other classes
This nigga ain't never encountered 20 maulers while using a shield or pickaxe or 20 crushers while using a shield
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>>503470576
Any class can deal with those if built competently tho. Each in their own way, and with maybe slightly different kill times, but they're only rarely a huge problem if you're prepared for situations like those.
Also, you can still do this as LOOOGER, the only melee talent you need is The Best Defence.
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>>503470718
>Any class can deal with those if built competently tho
There is no better melee solution. All the classes can kill them one by one, but only an ogryn can do so while stagger locking them
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>>503470949
Duelling sword says hi
It's hilarious when a DS user overestimates his skills and gets krumped by an overhead though
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>>503470391
>Way to out yourself as a shitter.
Ok how much ammo, not to mention time do you spend killing one gunner? Those piece of shit stubbers are so inaccurate that skill doesn't even come into play, you're completely at the mercy of RNG.
Lucky Bullet doesn't even apply to the full crit chain, it's a joke.

>I wouldn't even say there are many situations where ogryn really excels compared to other classes.
My point is that by loooooooging, instead of enhancing what Ogryn CAN actually do, you willingly fuck it up to become a garbage version of something all other classes are infinitely better at.
Gunlugging is fun, but you're a genuine fucking retard if you think it's in any way competitive. Just accept that you're only stubbin because you like the RATATATA and your favorite movie scenes of all time are the ending of Rambo 2 and the minigun scene from Terminator 2.
Trying to pretend otherwise is absolute cope.
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>>503471417
Duelling sword kills them, but doesn't control them. When 20 maulers show up i can kill them one by one with the sword while dodging and managing lesser enemies with pushes and light attacks, but 2 or 3 players will likely die while it's happening. On my ogryn i keep them all under control and i kill them faster with nothing but heavy attack spams
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>>503452690
This song just started playing right when I opened this webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGvvX5umpbE
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>>503470268
new playa or rerolling a troon?
I'll carry you if you can join aurics at that level while in a party
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>>503471601
>Ok how much ammo, not to mention time do you spend killing one gunner?
Like 6-9 bullets or so? If I'm not cleaving through three of them in the process, that is.
>Those piece of shit stubbers are so inaccurate that skill doesn't even come into play,
Apparently we aren't playing the same game, because crouching, bracing, and firing in short bursts somehow magically gets my bullets on target.

I'm not even going to address the rest of your post because you are far too retarded to even use a simple gun right. This is your last (You).
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>>503467697
Is there even any reason to use it after the crafting rework?
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>>503467697
>>503471794
This nigga living in the past
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Biggest gets biggest ammo.
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>>503471417
But that just proc's revenant
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>>503472105
It's weird playing with zealots with no until death. I see them fighting a crusher pack and then ACK!
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>>503471417
DS special attack needs to be nerfed as hard as the ogryn slap. This weapon is fucking retarded.
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Frankly I'll take playing with a looger over a toonker any day. Looger may vacuum up ammo for looging but at least the most basic looger will burst down bosses for the team.
Toonkers are the embodiment of supportslut entitlement expecting the team to play around wherever they decide to plant their shields. Shame too with shields being top tier melee weapons.
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>>503472430
I played with a very good looger recently. He cleared hordes in melee, killed crushers with the pickaxe, pressed F and deleted elite hordes and monsters with the stubber
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>>503471601
You have no idea what you're talking about. You're either trolling with a lot of effort, or you've never actually played gunlugger.
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>>503472871
>>503471771

Ok prove me wrong, faggot.
The time spent crouching, bracing and firing in short bursts to hit targets also takes time. And 10m away is not long range.
Your Ogryn brains are so fucking cooked that you can't even tell when you're being shit.
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Why is it always the clueless players who write essays with strong opinions about how bad certain classes or builds are?
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>>503473125
Dunning Kruger mixed with ADHD/autism/other social outcasts mental illnesses' tendency to needlessly obsess over trivial things
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>>503473123
You will never admit you're wrong so it would be a waste of time trying to argue. I'm just joining the conversation to counter your dumbfuck dunning kruger induced misinformation.
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wtf did they do to the game?
i keep loosing matches on diff 2 now
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>>503473426
>loosing on diff 2
check if your monitor is turned on
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>>503473125
Tranner's cult must defend the words of their messiah even if they're wrong
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>>503471794
>>503471960
Explain
Is there another way to get 21/17/3 trinkets?

I know you can spam the brunt buy now to get 380 weapons if you a load of cash, but what about trinkets?
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>>503473635
you can always gamble with Melk, but it's extremely unreliable
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>>503473123
I even used more ammo than necessary.
>inb4 using ult is cheating
Literally playing gunlugger wrong.
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>>503473817
it's also annoying as shit because you have to check your inventory to see if you got a good one since it doesn't give a pop up like buying from Brunt's
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>>503452541
>no rags
>no knife
yikes
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>>503473391
You'll never actually read my posts or respond without resorting to ad hominem so I guess you can go fuck yourself.

>>503473938
No actually that's perfectly reasonable, you should. Any other class would be benefiting from their high output keystones. But that's not long range and you're going to suffer unless you get enough elites to farm for the next ult.

Like I said, I want to see them nerf everyone else because they don't need to give up nearly as much as Ogryn to do this shit. They just get fucked in the talent tree department to I imagine compensate for their ungodly health pool and stagger values.
I'm not saying a good gunlugger can't carry his weight, but that amount of effort put into Zealot would carry the game.
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>>503474792
Well with fire bullets, you just need to get them on target, so even at 35-ish meters you only need a handful more bullets if you can aim good. In a real gameplay situation, you would obviously fire a little more than necessary, but in the process also cleave through a dozen other enemies, so it evens out. Other classes would still use a greater percentage of their ammo to achieve similar effects, assuming they use a ranged weapon to do so.

>I'm not saying a good gunlugger can't carry his weight, but that amount of effort put into Zealot would carry the game.
Ogryn skill floor is deep enough that you have to dig a hole to get there, you really don't need to try hard to make gunlugger work, just a good build, and knowledge of when you should be using your gun (usually not, only when ulting). For example, I only think burst limiter override is good for cooldown reduction, and lucky bullet or whatever it's called is kind of a bad blessing.
But you're right, ogryn can never even hold a candle to how OP a well-played zealot is. Which was never my point.
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>>503475176
>ogryn can never even hold a candle to how OP a well-played zealot is. Which was never my point.
Zealots do a bit more damage, kill specials better, but they aren't really stronger
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>>503475457
Nah, zealot can outdo ogryn in most situations with only half the skill tree, it's fucking gross. Let's not kid ourselves, stealth is a retarded ability, and most of zealot's skill tree is overpowered, or overpowered crutches. Even if you don't take stealth, you still have on demand gold toughness + really long stunlock with a short cooldown if you play it well.
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>>503475176
>Which was never my point.
I'm glad we understand each other.
I think gunlugger definitely has a much higher skill floor though than most people give credit for, because you need to have an understanding of when and when not to pull the trigger, and actually land your shots.
Other characters have a much more natural flow, particularly with their "easy mode" builds than lugger.

And about lucky bullet god damn please Fatshark buff it properly. It's 12% chance, so that's 12% of your ammo saved on average while Vet can grab one aura and potentially save 300% ammo. It's fucked. And the crit barely matters when you already have good crit and your actual crit bonus is ass. It's only really good for the cooldown reduction.
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>>503475597
I do an average of almost 800k damage, have little issue with specials and my team benefits greatly from my constant CC. I have recently started to see just how useful that CC when going back and forth between zealot and ogryn and my team is much less likely to die when i play ogryn
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>>503475921
I acknowledge and agree with your points on how and why ogryn is strong, but there's only so much cat herding you can do when your retards decide they're going to go and die. When you're left completely on your own, clutching the W becomes incomparably more difficult on ogryn than on zealot, because all it takes is a single ill-positioned poxie blocking your slide for a net to wipe you. Or how difficult it can be to deal with multiple snipers. Or your massive footprint turning fire into somewhat of a threat.

I find that ogryn can do more in a team of average players that at least pay attention, but with both terrible and good players, zealot should be able to squeeze out more performance. But maybe you have a better understanding, my ogryn is only level 90-ish (mostly gunlugger), even if I feel like I have the easiest time going through aurics with it compared to my other higher level characters.
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>>503476648
Clutching is a bit harder on ogryn, but i find that i don't have to do it as often as i do when playing zealot
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>tfw level 20 ogryn
just 10 more levels guys, can I make it?
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From the previous thread
>Burst limiter override is pretty bad.
qrd? looks neat on paper, what final keystone should I take?
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has anyone posted a I-II-V-E-G gloriana solo as ogryn yet? no? oh........
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hopes/fears for the upcoming update?
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>>503476897
Get yourself a shield, go down to the bleed, and invest in both +25 toughness nodes. Try to get some 12+5-ish toughness curios in every slot if you can find any, otherwise take health and put toughness on those as well. You're probably still learning, so take 2-3 gunner resist and 1 sniper resist as crutches, but I think they're fine to keep even later on imo. You will have to carry complete and utter retards for another 10 levels, so be prepared to suffer.

>>503477014
Ogryn doesn't have many flexible points to play with, and burst limiter override's only really useful perk is the cooldown reduction, which you usually shouldn't need. The most useful nodes leading down there are toughness DR and braced DR, but you get similar benefits elsewhere, and are picking up bruiser (center cdr) on almost every build anyway. The opportunity cost for going down to feel no pain is pretty cheap.

That said, I prefer burst limiter override's cooldown reduction, because it's allowed me to clutch some pretty bad situations. I haven't felt a need to use other capstones.
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>>503477169
There's one ogryn true solo for auric maelstrom uploaded on youtube period lmfao, there might be one on billibilli but I really doubt it.

I've watched multiple ogryn autists this month break trying to take it into anything actually challenging even if the prospect of all ammo drops being yours is on the table.
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>>503477316
Vermintide or Darktide?
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>>503478593
both
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>shoot crusher 2 times (no need to aim
>bayonet crusher to death in 2 seconds
I...I think I found something
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>>503478676
Well, I'm hoping the Havoc System in Darktide is good, granted I feel like it'll just create even more obnoxious and toxic elitist community with checking each other on how high your Havoc Rank is, granted /coop/ is already sorta there with the mod to see peoples true levels.
I do wish we had a new playable race, class, or enemy faction to play against.
I also think it'd be fun to introduce the Versus Mode from Vermintide 2 into Darktide at some point.
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>>503478942
I'm keen. Can't wait to see how fucking hard I can shit peoples games up, sit back and giggle like a retard when people can't cope.
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>>503476897
Shield, cleaver or pickaxe, toughnessmaxx, stamina regen/sprint/toughness+/gunner or sniper res if you think you need it. Charge and heavy hitter.
The key to carrying shitters as ogryn is to go as fast as possible, if you get bogged down you're dead because you cannot rely on your teammates for a second, and bring a reliable special sniper like rumbler or grenade gauntlet. Kickback works too but it's a little unreliable at max range so snipers will be aids.
Just be aggressive and play like you were solo and sweating and you'll get it done.
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>>503479239
There's no matchmaking, anon. If you keep shitting up lobbies, you'll stop getting invites. I guess you can hover at low ranks forever to torment complete noobs.
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>>503479269
>kickback
>unreliable against max range snipers
my friend
what you need is...
R O C K
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>>503477316
Force Swords will rape
Power Swords will be similar to Eviscerators. Cool, but far from meta.
Havoc will be completely dead on arrival
New mission will be cool
Ps4fags will be insufferable to play with, but it will take them a while to get to Aurics
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>>503479239
sounds pretty miserable anon but not like I care how you spend your days
and Havoc is supposed to require premade groups before starting as I understood it, so wouldn't you be blacklisted among the higher ranks pretty quick either way?

also speaking of havoc, I saw someone mention it's like Weaves in ratclick; I never got to try that gamemode but wasn't it considered a terrible addition to the game?
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>>503479868
I havent seen Xbox players in a long while, I wonder how long PS4 players will last
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>>503480346
Shopclick was on gamepass wasn't it? Xboxxies probably just left when the new games rotated in.
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>>503479690
Yeah I dunno man, people keep saying it's good but it takes up to 6 shots sometimes that gun is fucked.
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>>503480346
>>503480535
There are just a lot less people with xboxes than PS4s, especially in Europe. The last wave of consolefags will be nothing compared to this one.
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>>503479269
qrd on the cleaver? I'm not really feeling it.
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Can someone hook me up with a good ripper and stubber blessing build? kinda got bored of using kickback..
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>>503480883
Ripper; Blaze Away and Inspiring Barrage. Ripper can bring you from 0 to 100% toughness pretty fast. Replace one with Can Opener if your melee weapon sucks at Crushers.
Stubber; Charmed Reload (for Achyls, optional for Gorgonum), then whatever. Blaze Away generally. Inspiring Barrage if you want to be even tougher in a ranged fight. Overwhelming Fire for another power boost.
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>>503480641
Are you running Surgical IV?
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Leave the zealot, dog! Tastes bad!
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>>503480883
>>503481769
Charmed reload is trash, it promotes playstyles that waste ammo, the magazine size is more than enough if you only fire it with fire bullets up, or use it to take pot shots at things that need suppressing so you can close the distance and mulch their faces.
Achlys is the only usable stubber because the others take too long to swap to, brace, and start firing, which is important, because you should melee most of the time.

I use unyielding, flak, overwhelming fire, and blaze away. Unyielding for deleting bosses in 8-10 seconds solo, flak because it's the most common armor type, and carapace is nearly immune to stubber builds anyway (use a pick with carapace). Damage blessings are there to help bolster your ammo efficiency for when you don't have fire bullets, or need something to die a quarter second faster. Inspiring barrage is alright I guess, but you should have plenty of toughness regen and resistance from the brace nodes.
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>>503479868
Eviscerators would be ranked good if the melee meta wasn't twisted by a single weapon being in the top tier.
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>>503480346
I see them a fair bit in South America, and they're usually the worst player in the run. It's probably going to be hell here when it gets on the PS5.
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https://x.com/warhammer/status/1860700244150829544
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>>503482556
>Charmed reload is trash
I like to press F and unload into monstrosity without having to reload, fuck off
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which melee weapons have the funnest special attack?
i fell in love with the devil claw and its parry, like sekiro for kids
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>>503483321
Psyker Power Swords use their special ability like a Sentai Ranger powering up their special move
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>>503483321
The Battle Maul & Slab Shield has a special attack that makes it so you can block everything and never run out of stamina, it's really strong.
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>>503483321
The helbore can shoot
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>>503482004
Yeah, Surgical and Run n' Gun.
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>>503483321
chainsaw goes brrrrrrrrr
Ogryn bitch slap
Thunderhammer bonk
pretty soon the Psyker will have a greatsword that fires Moonlight Greatsword projectiles
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>>503483426
Plus they can block gunfire, which is pretty cool
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>>503483321
Fun? Devil's claw being able to just bitch out ragers.
Funny? The knife punch.
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>ratclickers got their versus and huge influx of new players
>shopclickers finally got out of beta with the final console port complete, and are about to get a new mode+ fun weapons
are we finally home /copeg/?
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>>503480756
Krourk cleaver is fun because it has fast lights that do respectable damage once you have heavy hitter stacked up.
Slash and stab away, it's no pickaxe in terms of damage and it doesn't hold a candle to shield in AoE potential but it has a more varied and nimble moveset you'll feel at home with coming from human melee weapons.
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>>503478895
>using the uncharged attack
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>>503483978
wat
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>got darktide a week or two ago
>played first 10 hours on diff 2, enjoying the game
>update drops
>fuck you all difficulty goes up now
>suddenly can't clear diff 2 matches anymore
time for diff 1 i guess
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>>503484363
I genuinely don't understand how. Even if you're a retard the other people should be able to carry you with how easy it is, literally skyrim tier.
What region are you in?
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>>503480883
>>503481769
The ripper secret sauce build is worth trying. Mk6 with Blaze Away, dump ammo.
With a 19 shot mag the left click gives you 3 stacks of Blaze for the whole burst, it's pretty good for quickly drawing and deleting specials at midrange.

Too bad you'll be eating up as much ammo as a looooogger if you want to shoot it more than once every 5 minutes.
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>>503484501
not clearing means all 4 players are downed
never had that happen before today
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>>503484654
Stop playing it like an RPG, focus all your attention on avoiding damage. You have so much HP on low difficulties that you practically need to face tank every hit coming your way to die.
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versus is fun
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>>503483647
Wait, can you post a screenshot of your gun?
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>>503484654
>not clearing means all 4 players are downed
yes I understand that, my point was that even you went down everyone else should be fine because it is easy, you'd have to all be brain damaged.
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what's the best skelly talent for versus? barrow blades or dread seneschal?
I like to send my skellies to chase after gasfags
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>>503484501
>got the game a week ago
>it's ok high level players will carry me through malice
>mfw wiping on malice with level 25+ people
why are they even playing malice too
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>>503484363
>>503485387
Malice isn't really a level check. It's a "do i get raped by specialists" check.

I would consider myself mediocre at the game but if you're failing Malice it's because you simply don't understand the mechanics well enough.
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>>503479269
Kickback is the best sniper killer that ogryns have
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>>503485387
because they're console players and malice with a controller while playing any class other than psyker is as hard as the hardest auric maelstrom with a mouse and keyboard
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>>503485085
Sure I guess, but you'll have to wait and you won't see anything special. It's mobility dumped and has flak+unarmored.
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>>503480641
It never takes more than 2 shots to kill a sniper
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>>503485387
Level 25+ on malice is pretty normal for most players.
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>>503457325
you can literally compsre hordes before and after xbox, apologist
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>>503482952
If you actually need to reload to kill the monstrosity, something went horribly wrong. It shouldn't take more than 1 full mag to kill a monstrosity if you can aim worth a damn and literally anyone else even tickles the thing. It's not like you need to reload beforehand when the press of a button does it for you. It's completely unnecessary and kinda trash. You should never fire your gun for sequences long enough to where charmed reload even does anything, because your LOOOOGING lasts pretty much exactly as long as your magazine takes to empty.

But it's okay to like bad things. I like at least small amounts of gunner and sniper resist, even if they're a crutch. I don't even hate playing with charmed reload, it's actually kind of surprising sometimes just how long you can fire with it active. It's fun. I'm not going to shame you for liking fun things.
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>>503455186
>>503457325
>>503485894
I'm getting thick, juicy hordes just like i always have
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>>503469319
>Yes, because you can magically teleport over there
That's why I said "learn to dodge" dumbass.
If my fatass ogryn with slab shield can dodge them and get in close withou5 losing health to fuck them up, then you can as well.
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can i play the darktide now?
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>>503482713
Even then, they weren't great. The hard cap of 4 targets damaged on cleave makes them decent but incapable of being great. The highly committal special attack makes them difficult to use effectively in packs where you need to keep your defenses up.
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>>503486208
hop on auric
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>>503486208
Soon, snoy rata.
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>>503482713
>>503486260
Still the best horde clearing option that zealot has. Only slightly worse lesser kills throughout missions than pickaxe
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>>503486020
No you arent, apologist. This isnt subjective
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>>503486460
not even close lmao, I'd say eviscs sre the second worst in the game currently, chainsword being the worst. Even dueling sword can kill hordes faster with rampage
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>>503486304
can't yet....
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>>503486460
Last time I used eviscerator, my teammates stole several kills from me before the fucking thing even completed a single heavy attack. Horde clear is borderline inconsequential anyway, when most weapons do it well by virtue of having infinite crits or heaps of attack speed depending on your build. And that's on a class with two different sources of aoe fire.

>>503486772
Basically this.
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If you need an Ogryn I can try and carry you.
8995228725
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>>503486601
I wasn't playing for a few months during the auric period. If hordes really were bigger then it must have been during a certain time during the pre-talent update auric period
>>503486772
That is not even close to my experience. What blessings do you use?

I use shred, rampage, flak, elite and purge the unclean talent
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>>503486772
>>503487087
With crit build btw
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>mfw at 4/5 auric storm survivor
im afraid to queue boys
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>>503486260
*uses bloodletter to bleed the whole horde dead in 2 swings*
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>>503487383
are you stupid
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>>503487087
Hordes were bigger until the xbox update. This isnt debatable dog they even downward adjusted all penances like the ogryn bowling one
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>>503487383
dumbass
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>>503487441
I'll just take your word for it
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>>503487435
nope
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>>503485894
>j-just trust me bro I swear they were bigger!!
I'm gonna need some video evidence of these so called nerfed hordes.
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>>503487362
All you can do is try. If the current stage looks too tough, wait for it to rotate out. Worse case scenario you die and have to start over.
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>>503487362
A-I-II sucks dont queue it
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>>503487362
there's currently a high intensity train
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>>503487716
>a high intensity train
Or a typical night for your mom lmao
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>>503487362
>A-I-II torrent
do not q i repeat do not q
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>>503478895
>using the helbore unironically
actively griefing
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>>503488250
Are you implying it's a bad thing?
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>>503487825
medicae I NEED MEDICAE
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>>503485387
Malice can actually be difficult because it has a lot of very terrible players. It isn't even a matter of being new to the game, it's more of a matter of refusing to learn. Some people basically never make it to heresy because they don't learn to survive, so they just play malice forever. It's basically the first casual filter of the game.

The worst part about malice is that most pugs will shit the bed when a poxburster shows up. On malice I just run away from poxbursters altogether because there will always be a retard to shoot them when you're trying to push them away.
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>>503488250
Helbore is an actual bug person gun. It's not fun or satisfying to use. The only reason you'd ever grab it is if it's technically, theoretically, statistically, slightly stronger than something else but you're also too autismal to just use a plasma rifle.
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>>503487556
>>503487513
retarded apologists look at any old damnation vid
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Now that the dust has settled,
What the actual fuck were they thinking?
Why did they do it?
Just for a sick laugh?
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>>503488504
>look at any old damnation vid
I played damnation back then. The hordes are not smaller
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>>503488429
>A poxburster! Shoot it! Shoot it!
Dishonest audio cues
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>>503488640
to this day, I have no idea
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>>503488748
>>503488429
what do I do with poxbursters?
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>>503488748
Well, i wouldn't wanna make a liar out of you
*shoots the poxburster*
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>>503488640
This absolutely reeks of "person in the meeting feels the need to make a suggestion and get credit as a contributor by changing something that absolutely did not need to be changed"
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>>503488858
RUN!!!
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>>503488858
Sprint away from them. They're not very fast :)
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>>503488640
It was all a huge joke for them
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bros, is our game better than deep rock galactic?
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>>503488858
shoot them if they're far away, push them if they're close enough that by the time you killed them they'd be close enough to hit anyone with the explosion
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>>503488504
Okay retard, I'll leave you be with the scary xbox crossplay.
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>>503488858
Run towards them, push, and immediately dodge back. But on lower difficulty levels your teammates will probably shoot them and explode them in your face.
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>>503489269
>deep rock galactic got a vampire survivors clone spinoff
WHEN IS DARKTIDE SURVIVORS????
GORDOSHARK FUCK YOU
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>>503489269
yeah we have versus now!
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>>503488696
>>503489276
not him but reducing the quantiy of enemies was literally in the patch notes for the first update after the console release
why are you pretending you were here for it when you obviously weren't? Hordes WERE bigger before then.
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>>503489601
Says nothing about horde sizes. Bet you thought this was a gotcha LOL
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what makes the pickaxe better than the shield? the shield has so much utility
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next patch will have reduced horde sizes in the notes for ps5 mark my words I will be proven right next time
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>>503489874
I feel like you've realized you're wrong and retarded but since you're very insecure and too mad to just stop posting you're gonna resort to le trolling in the hopes it makes people think you were joking the whole time so I'm just not gonna continue this.
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why do people insist on having a mexican looking ogryn
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>>503490549
they're mexican and fat irl
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>>503490549
Danny Trejogryn
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>>503489601
I thought that guy meant the trash in hordes, like the density is a total wasteland now compared to before. These notes just say there's less elites but they're bulkier, nothing about the mobs. Have we been talking about different things all along?
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>>503489971
Pickaxe does disgusting damage without having to build into it. Shield feels kinda weaksauce (except the stagger) without bleed and damage talents. Pick special is disgusting stagger, and leads into a crusher deleting overhead.
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>>503485085
Here it is.
I actually tested it a bit again and yeah, it does actually 2 shot snipers. Flamers and gunners though take like 5-6 shots it's crazy.
It's a far cry from how reliable the grenadier gauntlet is at sniping but I guess you just have to deal with that for what you gain in close range power.
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>>503490872
what blessings for the pickaxe?
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>>503490921
>Ghetto blaster
lmao
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>>503490921
Are you using surgical properly? Are you mindful of range?
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>>503491063
>Are you mindful of range?
Well, we are talking about taking out snipers, specials and elites at long range here.
So yes I'm very mindful of the fact that I'm shooting them at the maximum damage fall off distance.
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>>503491009
Slaughterer and headtaker
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>>503483321
Thunder Hammer may still be a little awkward to use but damn if it isn't satisfying to send stuff flying and take chunks off a boss.
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>>503488431
or youre putting that sick krieger wholesome chungus loadout
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>>503490921
>Flamers and gunners though take like 5-6 shots
Don't waste shots on gunners, put maniac and specialist damage on it
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>>503491289
krieger?
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>>503491195
I see, I wasn't following the entire quote chain. I prefer to throw rocks for snipers personally.
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>>503454921
>run past or ignore the netted/downed console shitter hoping they will leave
>they never do
>i am now no better than them
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>>503491364
So basically what you're saying is that I should simply hide from gunners if I bring a Kickback?
Why shouldn't I bring a Grenadier Gauntlet instead that one shots gunners and all specials and disablers at any range? I can just melee enemies up close anyway.
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>I-II
wake up bros it's the easiest maelstrom for your title
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>>503491709
Because the gaubtlet is a low tier weapon
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>>503492840
Is this what Ogryn brain does to you?
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>>503489601
they're retarded apologists. They dont have a reason to do it, its just slave mentality and contrarianism
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you guys are so retarded all you have to do to settle this retarded horde debate is post pre-crossplay scoreboards with kill count vs now, end this shit
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>>503493515
It's not even a debate you can literally check the old achievement values
gone bowling used to be 120 or so now its 60 enemies. It was easy to get back then and now 60 enemies is hard. Super simple stuff
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>>503487585
>>503487625
>>503487716
>>503487848
what do you think the easiest auric map is? i'm probably waiting for something just with minimal modifiers, no poxburster shit, 20% ability CDR, etc
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>>503492907
Not him, but he's right. The Grenade Gauntlet is ass. It USED to be good, now it's not.
Also, if you are up against gunners from a distance and you have the Kickback, you should be able to hit them once, which will knock them over, and then quickly approach to finish them off. Even if you don't do that, you can wait for them to get back up and hit them again. The kickback mulches them on the second hit, and hits multiple target AND hits through them.
If your Kickback isn't doing any of this, it may have bad stats or blessings.
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>>503494064
darkbabs can push with guns???
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>>503491709
>Why shouldn't I bring a Grenadier Gauntlet instead that one shots gunners and all specials and disablers at any range?
>any range
except if it's further than 40 meters because the projectiles disappear mid air
except if it's behind a fence
except if it's behind a poxwalker

all of those things an MK5 rippergun will kill at any actually any range. KIckback is decent too but the single shot stuff hurts with big auric special waves
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>>503492840
>>503494008
how about you educate yourself before you go around spouting bullshit
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>>503488640
i knew i was going crazy when i saw my headhunter autogun becoming vigilant
when did this happen and why?
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>>503493384
>not seeing something that isn't there is slave mentality
Sure, sure. Keep frantically digging through the patch notes please. You'll find your horde size change any minute now.
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>>503494230
Yes.
And funfact: they count as heavy attacks. So if you hit enemies with gun-strikes playing Ogryn, it will trigger those Restore-Toughness-on-heavy-attack-hit talent nodes.
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>>503494402
You keep ignoring this >>503493906 and it's because your slave mentality needs you to defend fatshark for some reason
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>>503493967
avoid lights out with randoms if you really want the title
anything but 3veg is ok for the average group but maybe avoid waves of poxbursters because one mishap from a retard can instantly kill you through corruption, no down
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>>503494321
I'm perfectly educated. Everything you say, think, and do, just seems to be completely retarded.
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>>503494480
darktide is harder than ratclick btw
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>>503486005
>>503482556
charmed reload is fine. It's not particularly good or bad.
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>>503494548
>They made penances easier to accommodate shitters who couldn't do them since release
>This somehow means that there are less enemies in the game now
You're drawing connections between unrelated things, one of those things existing solely inside your head. There's no other way to describe this behavior other than schizophrenia.
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>>503494230
it's not a push, it's an attack
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>>503494568
if that's true, ratclick must be quite easy
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Am hammer and load into auric with 3 knife zealots one leaves right away lole
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>>503494553
yeah i def avoid those. i thinking for maps probably try for baross, magistrati oubliette, vigil station, maybe consignment yard
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>auric didn't exist before crossplay
wtf
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>>503494568
vermintide has guns with bashes too retard
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> level 3 perks
what did he mean by this
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>>503494321
>shattering impact on gauntlet
That sounds absolute ass
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>>503495268
yeah because you know better than the top-rated ogryn guide on steam?
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>>503494568
Only if your brain can't process more than 3 things at a single time.
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>>503486772
I did a mission to test the horde clear. Did fine as far as i can tell
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>>503494873
>>They made penances easier to accommodate shitters who couldn't do them since release
It was never a complaint before the horde nerf you're making shit up
it's harder now (with 60) than it used to be (with 120) in fact
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>>503495268
It reduces the shots needed to kill a crusher down to a reliable 3, from 4-5.
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>>503491709
>So basically what you're saying is that I should simply hide from gunners if I bring a Kickback?
Why would you possibly think that? Go over there and kill them. The gauntlet has far too little ammo for the gunner hordes in aurics
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>>503495532
>>503487087

I feel like you guys just interpreted my post to mean "it's not good at horde clear" when I was really just saying it's the second worst in the game. Every wep in darktide shits on hordes, I was speaking relatively compared to other weps the evisc doesn't have great hordeclear
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>>503495146
probably just forgot to update them since the crafting rework
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>>503494321
>>503495594
Why the fuck would you waste it on crushers anyway?
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>>503495543
Please quote a single person talking about penance changes in the context of the supposed horde size nerf. A post on the forums, anything. Somebody besides /coopg/ must've noticed something, right? That you "feel" that it's harder now doesn't make it a fact by any stretch of imagination.
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>>503495761
it's hard to talk about this because what constitutes "good" or "bad" horde clear is subjective. Evisc is above average if you include all weapons in the game.
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Psyker and Ogryn, best friends five ever
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>>503495381
He probably does. That guide says the Ogryn Power Maul is good. It's just youtuber "everything is good" shit. It refuses to properly compare the weapons against each other, and instead just highlights how "good" they are in a vacuum.
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>>503496131
luv me spark 'eads
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So why did they rename all those weapons? Why'd the IAGs get swapped around?
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>>503495761
>Every wep in darktide shits on hordes
yeah man i call my zarona "the meatgrinder" haha B^)
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>>503495761
>>503496101
I disagree, I think it's among the best horde clearing weapons in the game when built right >>503495532
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>>503496343
corporate autism or swedish autism, take your pick
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>>503495902
Because sometimes you don't want to waddle over there just to save someone being chased by a few crushers.
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what's the best stubber mark? I've been using achyls when leveling up
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>>503495757
Because he's saying retarded shit like "don't waste shots on gunners".
Of course I'd use it to stagger and close in, same as the gauntlet on elites. I'm just questioning why you'd do maniac specialist because it doesn't give you breakpoints for one shots.
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>>503495902
for when you're using knife
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>>503496772
That's it
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>>503496343
i assumed it was to standardize the naming convention
Agrip is the slow firing gun
Columbus is the mid firing gun
Vraks i the fast firing gun
(this is just a theory and I've made zero effort actually checking if this is the case)
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>>503496772
achyls generally but the gorgo is good if you take the rending talent instead of the burning one
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Ruined myself playing with friends after the crafting update now I have no patience for solo queue
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>>503496693
>a few crushers
You should be where the crushers are anway
>shoot
>shoot
>shoot
>reload
>shoot
>shoot
>shoot
That's 2 crushers if your aim is perfect
>>503496818
You asked if you should just hide from gunners, that obviously implies that you can't deal with them in melee. You put maniac on it because the kickback damage varies a lot depending on range, whether it's a crit and whether, are sprinting, hipfiring, aiming and the enemy might or might not damaged already. You will oneshot trappers and flamers a lot more reliably and specialists are the only enemies that are worth shooting to kill anyway
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>>503497078
Ruined myself playing with randos in auric. My friends are utter trash and can't handle poxwalkers. They don't even have the patience to learn.
At least they're pretty good at helldivers 2, which is a much simpler game
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i play the game correctly
you play the game wrong
you should play like me
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>>503497050
what blessings are you guys using?
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>tfw my friends will play literally anything but darktide
>they aren't even bad, we used to do maelstroms easy breezy
Born to solo queue, simple as...
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Tanner says Damage isn't an important stat on most melee weapons and that Mobility is underrated. Is xir right?
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>>503497848
Shut the fuck up about that fucking tranny retard
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>>503497848
tanner is only lvl 234 on his zealot so no
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>>503497656
I've tried many different combinations, and after a lot of testing my conclusion is somewhere between "it depends" and "it doesn't matter".

Blaze Away is good, but this only works for magdumping (takes a few secs to get the full effect). Doesn't help if you're switching weapons a lot.
Overwhelming fire is good for nuking monstrosities, but it's overkill vs specialists.
Charmed reload is convenient because you no longer have to reload, but it doesn't offer any damage bonuses.
Inspiring Barrage helps you tank ranged bullets, but again it doesn't make you do more damage.
the list goes on. Try to observe how you use personally use the gun in your kit, and see what you might get the most mileage from.
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>>503498001
>level is everything
>>503497848
the difference between 60 and 80 roll is negligible
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>>503498421
>the difference between 60 and 80 roll is negligible
For mobility, yes
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j_sat was the god of tide games
Shame about the car crash
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>medipack with field improvisation still wastes all of its healing trying to heal grimoire corruption
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Remember when the grenadier gauntlet melee attack was about as strong as a club?
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>>503499194
qrd?
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>>503495987
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/reviewing-each-penance/60111
acknowledges it being 100 enemies, says it's decently difficult

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/change-these-f-d-up-penances-finally/72311/13
pre xbox patch, it was nerfed to 70, saying it's free now

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1cw2alv/to_anyone_stuck_on_gone_bowling_here_is_how_i_did/
post xbox patch, it's 60 now, people saying it's so hard they gave up/need private games for it

Here's your non-/coopg/ example you asked for. Let's see how the goalposts shift
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fuck it
grenade gauntlet gunlugger
I wanna see if this shit sucks as hard as you niggas claim
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>>503499263
I hope it was quick
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>>503499282
So it was actually 70 instead of 60 before the console patch. Thanks for clarifying.
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>>503499401
I had fun doing that on an ultra meme build finetuned for the explosive punch by getting explosion radius on gunlugger + explosive offensive + gauntlet momentum and just gauntlet punching all game long. That said this is objectively dogshit and bad, but if you're really bored it's extremely fun
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>>503497848
Tanner gets all of his conclusions from shitting around on the psykhanium instead of actually playing the game, so you tell me.
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>>503499581
No retard it was 100 at launch, considered hard, then nerfed to 70, considered easy, nerfed to 60 post-patch, considered hard. Read the fucking links. Cmon you little faggot, atleast try. Atleast put some effort into your goalpost shifting cope. This is downright disappointing
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>>503498234
its a combination of thread trolling and shilling, best to just ignore it
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>>503499908
He's just baiting at this point, anon. And honestly, I bet the nerf from 100 to 70 was in early preparation for the console release as well. Fatshark probably realized it wasn't enough of a crutch for the globeniggers after they officially launched on xbox and the globies were still getting poopushed, so they then nerfed it even further to the present 60.
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>>503499213
There's no difference between grimoire corruption and generic corruption.
It's the same thing, you just having the grimoire just gives you generic corruption damage over time.
The whole "20% corruption resistance (grimoires)" just makes the corruption build up slower.
It's also the reason why no one takes it because it is genuinely trash.
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fuck you too melk
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>>503500403
Serves you right for shillyshallying.
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>>503499263
More or less the founder of the vermintide "competitive" community (Yes I know it's a pve game, but you know what I mean)

Basically laid the foundations for the common understanding of tide game mechanics back when the wiki's were blank and everything was obfuscated to fuck
Commissioned the initial versions of most of the autistic mods like commonplace today like mob spawner, true solo back in vermintide 1
Used the above to autisticly calculate and establish the breakpoint meta back before rampant powercreep made it less relevant
Has probably made more vt1 + vt2 + dt mechanics deep dives than the rest of the tranny posers in the community combined
founder of the vermintide subreddit

Allegedly died in a car crash some months ago
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How is this blessing and perk setup for a Gun Smite Psyker?
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it definitely was 100 and doable
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>>503500667
>Allegedly died in a car crash some months ago
shid, this is the first i'm hearing about this
that's rough
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How the hell am I supposed to use the rumbler? I thought it was supposed to demolish crushers, but I barely do any damage. And headshots on everything that isn't an ogryn just makes the projectile fly to the other side of the map.
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>>503500270
>The whole "20% corruption resistance (grimoires)" just makes the corruption build up slower.
jesus fuck they could have at least made it so you only got 80% of the corruption
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>>503500871
Nigga you have barely any ranged rending compared to vet, at least change carapace to flak/maniac/unyielding
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Anyone here got the game with the humble choice?
if so what are your opinions on the game so far?
Me? I think it's way more enjoyable than vermintide, I found the leveling less of a slog too
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>>503500871
Personally I would have fished for a low mobility version, but other than that, not bad. Might want to replace crit with Unyielding, though, for better boss damage. Up to you if that's worthwhile.
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>>503501184
t. recruit warrior
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>>503501034
>I thought it was supposed to demolish crushers
Who told you that, you fucking retard?
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I'm close to getting all classes to max level... what's next after that?
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>>503501398
Then you can play the game
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hehe... they didn't catch my heavy sword when they were fixing the rounding errors
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>>503500667
>Allegedly died in a car crash some months ago
Why didn't he just disable car spawns, since it was hypothetically possible to drive home from work without ever coming across another car?
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>>503501398
get all the penances
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>>503501593
Thank you for letting us know. Our bug fixers will get right on it at the next available opportunity.

-Greta Sharkberg
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>>503500991
whenever I try this it doesn't work, is it just that ledge in particular that has a good height?
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>>503502197
there are other ledges
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>>503500000
Genuinely not trying either, just thought mentioning the name would get me more actually informative replies debunking it, but I was stupid to think so. I'm just new and I really don't know what to go for. It seems so counter-intuitive to dump Damage, but the numerical difference between 60 and 80 really isn't that big whereas an extra dodge is pretty big? But then I might be underestimating the importance of those damage points vs. the extra dodge because of my lack of experience.
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>>503501789
how many hours for that?
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>>503502335
>but the numerical difference between 60 and 80 really isn't that big
This nigga doesn't use the combat axe
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>>503502335
the extra dodge comes at 50%, which you will always be at since you can't go any lower than 60
the difference between 60% mobility and 80% mobility is only sprinting about 3% faster. That's all.
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why did they have to make her such a bad bitch?
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>>503502985
>>503502335
It's just tranner troonberg trying to have a hot take because the only attention he ever gets is from being wrong and retarded
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>>503502335
Yeah nah nigger 60 to 80 damage can be a huge difference, 60 to 80 mobility is 2% sprint speed.
Without fail anybody who defends not dumping mobility is simply being a contrarian retard. There is absolutely no nuance to this: when your weapon has mobility you dump it. Period. The sole exception MIGHT be flamers since multiple of their stats literally don't scale past like 66 I think it was? But I still just dump mobility cause it's easier than caring and it's TWO PERCENT SPRINT SPEED.

Generally here's how you dump stat your weapon
>does it have mobility?
>yes? -> dump it
>no? -> does it have defence?
>yes? -> dump it
>no? -> read what the shit does
>still confused and not sure? -> ask copeg because this will actually be a nuanced choice without obvious options most of the time
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>tfw knifechad irl
>combat knife is unfun and the saber exists
>ogryn knives are superfluous
Sigh
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Game put me into the mourningstar with a guy I blocked
It LIED
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>>503504075
>knives are suboptimal vs hordes
who would of thunk it
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>>503504075
knives are very fun, just not on veteran
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>>503502985
>>503503613
Genuinely thanks for the explanations. I was misinformed about how Mobility worked. Glad I asked.
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I finally became the zoomer meme, I'm playing darktide while watching something else.
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>>503504616
Anon no, don't do this to your attention span...
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>>503504280
that's just his name
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>>503504075
Ogryn knives are great, the MK4 looks sick and is a great weapon
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>>503504319
I ain't never said a thing about hordes
>>503504397
I don't like it. Hitting weakpoints is finnicky without lots of training, i'm used to slower weapons and the range and stagger is low which makes crusher hordes extra dangerous when a crusher you can't see in the back of the horde attacks you with that phantom range

Combat knives are strong, but i just don't enjoy anything about them
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>>503504616
You do that in my aurics and you'll be watching the mourningstar on monitor 1
>>503504982
Cool, but superfluous
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>team has 2 loogers
guess I'll be a meleevet today
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>>503504616
Even just having a video at half volume is pretty distracting on aurics. I always end up pausing the video half way through the match.
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>join ongoing game
>group lifebars so fucking low
>it's barely 2 hallways from the start of the game
>leave
I'm tired....
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>>503500270
I don't know what to believe
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>>503505174
Das rite, vetboy
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Had a beast of nurgle noclip me out of the map
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One noob in my auric, ok I can understand.
Two, well ok I guess it's the weekend.
BUT THREE? FUCKING THREE? (3)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>503506074
there were 4
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>>503506031
Has happened to me too. I have also been trapped in monster closets by mutants
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>>503506293
it was you
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Good perks/blessings for combat knife? Are bleed stacks worth it at all?
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>Randomly Inspect another player on the Mourningstar
>See this
>Realize that this is probably the average person in your damnation game
>Suddenly feel tired
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>>503502335
>just thought mentioning the name would get me more actually informative replies debunking it
You claim otherwise but it still seems like bait, I'm not buying it.
As for whether to dump damage, it varies, check in the psykanium to see if the breakpoints on a 60 damage weapon are the same as an 80, if they are, you can dump damage.
You don't need youtubers or streamers to tell you how to play, they're not interested in actually being informative, they're interested in getting views, that sometimes they may have correct information is just secondary to them
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>>503506649
you arent a ps5
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>>503507435
yes I am, look at me go! *overheat*
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nice game fat shark!
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>>503507116
Clearly Aura Maxing is the hip new meta.
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>>503507860
No fatties.
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>>503507116
>toughness for days
>stunnade for cool clutch res
stop getting mad over a good build
that guy must not go down ever and is the most reliable lad on the team
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>>503497848
Mobility doesn't affect much. Your damage roll, however, can affect breakpoints with the myriad of other effects and partially damaged enemies in a match. So even if under normal meat grinder conditions, your 60 vs 80 damage roll doesn't matter, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to not matter at times in real games. I'd much rather take 80% on damage at the cost of a negligible amount of sprint speed and dodge distance or whatever and be able to kill some enemies faster some of the time.

>>503498001
That doesn't mean much. I've seen level 800 clueless fucking retards and level 100s who were quite decent.
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>>503504075
ogryn knife, spam lights on mk4. good weapon for a looger you get no benefit from heavies anyway.
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>>503507116
>Randomly Inspect another player on the Mourningstar

I decided to do the same and what in the god damn
Lv. 704 btw.
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>>503497848
No, he's a fucking idiot.
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>>503506850
I use Flesh Tearer and Mercy Killer.
Others will often say Lacerate, Uncanny Stike, Riposte, Precognition, and Ruthless Backstab based on what their build is generally trying to accomplish.
Bleed Stacks are good damage for longer term damage, such as Monstrosities.
For Perks, Unyielding, Carapace, and chance to Crit are all common. I use Unyielding and Carapace.
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https://youtu.be/Z9UATz5xpOY

TRANNY VS FAGGOT
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>>503510050
>TRANNY VS FAGGOT
Every argument in this general
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Please don't yell at me /coop/ but I gotta ask; I had a very heated debate with some friends on our characters in Darktide and their strength.
I know it's just a game and we have to put in a large dosage of suspension of disbelief but surely there's more at work with our characters and how well they do against a full on Nurgle Cultist incursion yeah? We've been going up against not only Nurgle Cultist but also Nurgle Daemons and even Nurgle Plagues that are on the Hive World. I have a hard time believing that our characters are simple, basic, rank and file Imperium of Man troops at this point with the feats we've accomplished and the foes we've encountered.
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>>503504790
>leveling up a new class
>attention span
lmao, that shit killed whatever attention span I had
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>>503510181
I get what you're saying! The feats your characters are pulling off in Darktide do seem a bit beyond what a rank-and-file soldier of the Imperium would typically be expected to handle, and you're right to question how they're so capable in the face of overwhelming enemies like Nurgle's Plaguebearers, daemons, and cultists.

While the game doesn't outright spell it out, there are a few factors that could be influencing the strength and resilience of your characters:

Training and Experience: The players you control aren't just random soldiers—they're specialists, likely handpicked or highly trained individuals with specific skills that make them far more capable than typical Imperial Guard. Characters like the Psyker, Veteran, and Zealot could have extensive backgrounds in special forces, elite guard regiments, or other military branches, making them more adept at dealing with chaos and xenos threats.

Combat Enhancements: The Imperium is known for pushing the limits of human ability with enhancements like combat drugs, augmentations, and psychic powers. Even if your characters aren't full-on Adeptus Astartes (Space Marines), they could have access to these kinds of boosts that elevate their capabilities beyond the average human soldier. These might not be as extreme as what you'd see with a Space Marine or an Adepta Sororitas, but they're still effective in making your characters formidable.

1/2
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>>503510181
>>503510379
The Nature of the Threat: In the Warhammer 40k universe, Nurgle daemons, while terrifying, often rely on overwhelming force and corruption rather than pure martial prowess. As the game progresses, your characters are likely learning the weaknesses of the cultists and daemons, and maybe even becoming stronger in the process. Perhaps the characters are also more accustomed to fighting these enemies, adapting tactics, or even drawing from the resources of the Hive world to gain the upper hand.

Narrative Considerations: From a game design perspective, your characters are supposed to be exceptional—they're not just regular troopers but part of a squad of individuals designed to survive and thrive in the face of impossible odds. This is part of the Darktide narrative: you’re meant to feel like you’re punching above your weight, defying the odds and surviving against these horrific entities, often making your characters feel more like heroes (or anti-heroes) of the Imperium.

Suspension of Disbelief: As you mentioned, the game's events do require some suspension of disbelief. The universe of Warhammer 40k is full of larger-than-life feats and supernatural elements, so it's not uncommon for characters to survive and even thrive in situations that would otherwise be impossible. The story and setting demand that you buy into the idea that individuals can achieve things far beyond the ordinary.

In short, your characters may not be ordinary soldiers—they could be elite operatives, survivors of past horrors, or even people who have benefited from some combination of training, enhancements, and sheer willpower to survive against the forces of Chaos. That doesn’t necessarily make them invincible, but it does make them much more capable than your average trooper.
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>>503510545
>>503510379
>>503510181

2/2

Faith and Determination: In Warhammer 40k, belief is a tangible force. Zealots, in particular, can achieve superhuman feats through sheer devotion to the Emperor. The combination of unwavering faith and the psychological effect of belief in their divine purpose can explain how they're able to resist corruption and triumph against Chaos forces. This could extend to the group as a whole, as the shared belief in their mission strengthens their resolve.

Plot Armor (Narrative Necessity): From a meta perspective, Darktide characters have to be extraordinary because it’s a game—players need to feel like they’re making a difference and overcoming impossible odds. This narrative necessity means the characters are naturally more capable than "realistic" grunts in the Imperium would be.

Inherent Talent or Luck: In the lore, the Imperium is vast, and it's not unheard of for some individuals to naturally possess exceptional abilities, even if they're not officially recognized as such. Your characters may simply be among those rare individuals who excel beyond the norm, whether due to latent psychic ability, an unknown genetic quirk, or just incredible luck.

So no, you're not wrong to think your characters are more than basic grunts. They're effectively the elite among the expendable, and their feats reflect that. In a world as grimdark as 40k, survival against such odds speaks to either divine favor or incredible skill—or a bit of both. What do you think is the most likely explanation for your characters' resilience?
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>>503510379
>>503510545
>>503510620
Tl;dr. Thanks anyway
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AWAY FROM YON BARREL
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>>503510379
>>503510545
>>503510620
Ty all for such great replies to my question. Its so hard to try and have fun discussions like these when my friends refuse to just think a little outside the box or explore possbilities.
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it's up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9UATz5xpOY
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>>503510181
The way that I internalize it is by handwaving that the four rejects in any given squad represent a much larger regiment of units and Inquisition acolytes who are doing a ton of work. Objectively, the issue is that it's a video game, and it needs to be fun, and you need to feel powerful. There's no easily accessed explanation to give as to why four normal random nerds can wipe out a chained demonhost in a few seconds (or faster, if T-Hammer builds are involved). I look at various FPS singleplayer games in a similar light: no, I don't consider my guy to have regenerating health, but rather my 'health' is how much I'm tempting fate until I get shot. I think Uncharted laid this out as a mechanic? I don't remember.
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Your characters aren’t regular soldiers—they’re operatives under the service of the Inquisition, an incredibly powerful organization with access to resources and knowledge far beyond what a standard Imperial Guard regiment or hive militia could dream of. The Inquisition doesn't waste resources on those who aren't exceptional, even if "exceptional" in this case means skilled criminals or desperate survivors.

Your characters likely receive equipment that’s been fine-tuned for Inquisition missions. Armor reinforced with ceramite or other rare materials, weapons blessed against Chaos, and gadgets like auspex scanners or stimm injectors could all give them a significant edge.

Surviving even a single encounter with Chaos is an accomplishment in 40k lore. Whether through sheer willpower, the Emperor’s blessing, or some unknown factor, your characters have avoided succumbing to Nurgle’s temptations. This is no small feat, as Nurgle is particularly insidious, offering respite from pain and suffering to his followers.
In the 40k universe, the Warp (the immaterial realm of Chaos) often plays a role in strange and unexplained phenomena. Perhaps they’re pawns in a larger game of the Emperor's will, guided to be in the right place at the right time to thwart Chaos incursions.
Finally, in a setting like Warhammer 40k, it’s important to remember that every story is heightened to match the grimdark tone. "Ordinary" heroes don’t exist because the galaxy doesn’t have room for them. Every individual who stands against Chaos, xenos, or the horrors of the Imperium itself is extraordinary by default.
So, while your characters might not be on par with Space Marines or Primarchs, they are undeniably exceptional by the standards of the Imperium.survival, destruction, and (perhaps) redemption. What keeps you most attached to your character in Darktide? Their faith, their grit, or their sheer will to survive?
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>>503487362
...bros, we did it
archivum sychorax with hunting grounds, nurgles blessing, and 20% CDR was a breeze, even had a good team
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>>503510810
Why are you replying to yourself like this?
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>>503507116
>>503508827
bruh
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>>503510620
Personally? I think we may have a case where part of the God Emperors psyke is focusing on this Hive World and allowing players like us a divine boon of sorts OR that we naturally are able to tap into the Faith/Psyke
I'm still pretty surface level with 40k Lore but in recent times in the books isn't it said there's now a small portion of the Warp itself that is being influenced by the God Emperor himself and his faith against the Chaos Gods sphere of influence? My thoughts are we're some how tapping into that along with how skilled we are as Elite Troops
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>>503510851
Kill yourself, tranner
>>503511081
Lol. His trannydom is canon according to chatgpt but it's not lighthearted or friendly
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>>503511170
Extremely based and ethical build that ignores all the power creep bullshit at the bottom of the tree
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>>503511137
I'm not but not sure if this is proof enough for you Anon. Please consider taking meds and staying healthy though.
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>finally enjoying ogryn
>found a comfortable combination of loogin and meleeing
>no longer feel like dead weight
>2 games away from reach max level and never touching the big lad again
it was fun...
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>>503511081
Yes, it's affection
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>>503511848
Kill yourself, tranner
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>>503511767
>never touching the big lad again
Why?
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>>503511767
but anon the rest of your penances...
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>>503511295
Bro, I generated that shit in chat gpt as a joke, I don't even know what that post contains
Can you really not tell? Why are you replying to it i na serious manner???
Please tell me you are counter-trolling me, because I'm about to become seriously disillusioned with the mental capacity of other people on the internet. Like even more than usual I mean.

To anyone else - it IS obvious that those walls of text are all ai generated right? RIGHT?
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>>503510379
>>503510545
>>503510620
Mmmm, AI sloppah.
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>>503512045
I thought you lifted them off reddit...
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>>503512045
yeah coopg can summarize their thoughts into 5 sentences per post
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>>503512486
The fuck you doing outside of the wow general?
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>>503512608
>it's just a lecture about racism
Fucking libtards, man
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>>503512045
>To anyone else - it IS obvious that those walls of text are all ai generated right? RIGHT?

To anyone who has half a brain and hasn't slept through the technological developments of the past 4 years. That excludes a large part of the population though, even many people who are terminally online.
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>>503512956
yeah bro no one is able to write wall texts, it's all only ai. This post was written with chatgpt
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play versnus
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Little chain sword seems like the worst chain weapon by a lot. Is there something I’m missing about it?
>mk iv
>+maniac/unyielding
>rampage/savage sweep
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>503514618
shred/bloodletter
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>>503514618
It's pretty decent if you put rampage on it
as a reminder, rampage is bugged and gives 36% strength not 36% damage
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>updates to the tide games come out on the same days as PoE2 early access
Bros...I don't feel so good
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>>503514618
Mild advantage of the chainsword, heavy attack damage is not capped at 4 targets like the eviscerator or chainaxe; though still limited by cleave and cleave damage distribution.
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>>503515032
>36% strength not 36% damage
What's the difference?
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>>503504982
Cleavers currently are more or less obsolote.
Not bad by enemy means, but they are outclassed by other weapons.
It's mainly due to the fact that knives are mainly anti-horde weapons and have bad armor penetration, unless it's the mk4, but even then things like the slab shield is better and has more utility.
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>>503515869
strength is a formula that gives damage, cleave and stagger. 36% strength ends up, in practice, being more than 36% damage too because of how damage is calculated (depends on your other damage modifiers but 36% strength usually does like 50% more damage in effect)
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>>503516248
Sounds like it's working as intended to me :^)
The chainsword needs it anyway
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>>503515316
Tidegawds not affraid
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>>503515941
eh, their niche is nice dodges, high mobility while charging up and good attack angles and blessings. Fast running too. It's worth using for those things over the shield or pickaxe still
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>>503493967
that's exactly what the shitters are doing, you should probably just queue up unless it's a super fucked mission/modifiers
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>>503516248
so basically anything that has strength on it is better than any other blessing (ie: rending, cleave, etc)?
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>>503515316
PoE 2 early access wont be as popular as you think because it costs 30 bucks. I'm definitely not paying 30 bucks for a beta even though I'm excited for PoE 2
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>>503516939
Most of the time yeah, depends on the actual values
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>>503469570
gib me gunloooger build
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>>503516939
depends on how it's tuned and triggered but generally speaking yes, any blessing that has strength on it just shits on other blessings. There might be one or two exceptions to this but I can't think of any right now
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>>503514618
just sell it and get a chainaxe
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>>503516939
Basically but I'd exclude rending from that list. Rending is a pretty unique stat. Basically the less armor pen your wep already has the more rending will do. Utterly useless on some weps, while on other weps it lets you rape crushers and maulers with ease. Also works for bleed and burn which do very little armor pen by default so keep that in mind.
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>>503515869
Strength affects everything iirc.
36% strength equates to:
>36% more cleave you do
>36% more cleave damage you do when cleaving
>36% more stagger
And yes
>36% more damage
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>still no weapons devblog
>have to keep bearing the hope that power greatsword will actually be good, despite knowing in my heart of hearts that the new heat mechanic will hamstring it
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>>503518337
>>still no weapons devblog
Fatshark is hurriedly trying to cook up some shit for veterans for sure.
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>>503518337
You can have this image for now
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>>503518337
Will it do like giant burst wavees of psyker energy at enemies as a ranged attack, that'd be dope af
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>>503518715
Oh hey, I didn't notice the Power Sword had a cool Inquistor I that looks like it's gem or crystal? That's neat.
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>>503518715
I love that it looks like a massive claymore based on the skull next to it. I hope one of them has an overhead heavy that speeds you up highlander style
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>Still no polearm.
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>>503514618
Drop maniac and unyielding unless you are just using it against bosses and mutants, drop savage sweep and put shred in on it

But it's just not that strong
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>>503462250
Shut your mouth cocksucker
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>>503515316
What the hell is PoE 2? Is Edgar Allen resurrecting and going into the video game business?
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>>503518891
anon... that's the shitty mark...
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>>503520163
No the guy who wrote House of Leaves' sister is making a new album.
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>>503518337
if you can vent it like the plasma gun and it doesn't build heat up too fast it'll be fine, gives me something to do with all this spare toughness
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>>503511767
>I don’t like having fun
Ok..?
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i think the tactical axe fucking SUCKS
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Ogryn is fun until the game decides to spawn 247 gunners
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>>503519056
They're pretty larg e. They've existed in the files for a while and you've been able to use the power swords as reskins for the force swords using the weapon customization mod. I'm looking forward to actually using them since psyker and zealot are my most played.
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People are sleeping on illisi with bloodthirsty and the new melee talents
Cuts through ragers like butter
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>>503518337
You know it will be simply slow and therefore unplayable outside of novelty.

Fatshark doesn't balance around auric or even regular damnation. They balance around their own funfriend experience in malice.
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>>503510181
They aren’t “basic rank and file” like others have said, but there is definitely of plot armor going on, kind of like the U5. There’s no reason we should be meleeing Nurgle Chaos corrupted and coming away unscathed. Nurgle’s diseases are stupidly infectious and defy all laws of physics like Chaos usually does, he has diseases that can spread through sound, diseases that can infect actual stars, so on and so forth, but even his regular diseases are crazy contagious. If Fatshark were concerned about any of this they would have put us against some Khorne aligned enemies and not the one god whose potential for snowballing outdoes all the others but here we are.
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what are these goofy ass donald duck transformer shoes loooooooool
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>>503518337
bro
a heat mechanic is a Godsend
because a heat mechanic means UNIQUE BLESSINGS tied to that heat mechanic
>crit chance that scales with heat
>movement speed that scales with heat
>attack speed that scales with heat
>unique ways of venting the heat
the fact it will have heat is what has me excited
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>>503504616
I don’t understand how people do that. It’s either just too distracting or I end up tuning one out to focus on the other, defeating the purpose
>>503506649
I say that.
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>>503521005
a staple of some 40k soldiers going back 20+ years
they look really stupid
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>>503500403
get real dude
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>>503491289
why does that woman look like she wants to fuck that krieger
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>>503483868
I think we are, brother. I think we are…
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>>503449565
im so tucking ready bros
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Payday bros, why is he such a crying faggot?

https://youtu.be/TRH7tzeT300
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>>503521092
that would require competence, and we're not getting that
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>>503520510
Do you know what are some good Psyker fits from the Slopshop?
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>>503454661
This but only one character at a time can do it and when you do it in front of others they should “Slaneeshi heresy!” And shoot you there
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>>503522147
theyve done it with Plasma
they can do it with 2H PS
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>>503455107
>>503455186
>>503455346
>>503456384
>>503457325
>>503457707
>>503458575
>>503459028
can’t wait to play with you all
i promise i won’t suck
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>>503520469
Just go over to the gunners and kill them
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>>503522152
That one, lol. Honestly most of the shop items aren't worth it at all and are pretty ugly.
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>>503455679
ratfaggots everyone
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>>503461445
i will be neither shitter. in fact, i wont so much as fart *or* shit.
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>>503520469
Pretty much the only reason why I run 20% gunner resistance on one of my curios, and why all my curios has +5% toughness on them.
God do I wish Fatshark would just roll back some of the nerfs they did to ogryn because they were largely bullshit and pointless.
>"Ogryns are too tanky by doing heavy melee hits, better nerf the regen from 25% to 20%."
>"Ogryns are still too tanky, we better lower delight in destruction from 10% to 8% for no reason."
>"Also we better move that one TDR node lower down into the gunlugger tree because reasons."
>better leave Vet's Voice of Command and Zealot's entire tree untouched even though they easily become more tanky than ogryn

The worst part is that Fatshark for whatver reason thought that buffing Too Stubborn to Die from needing to be under 25% health to being only under 33% health is somehow gonna get people to use it more.

When in reality the reason why no one uses it is because it's a talent that largely never benefits you if you're playing well.
If you're playing in a way that you're spending most of your time under 33% health, that just says you're bad at ogryn. You're not a martyrdom zealot.
Above reason is also why no one ever takes Won't Give In, 1 it's a noob trap, 2 it's just terrible as a talent.

For you to benefit from it your team mates need to downed or incapacitated, which already tells me you're not doing your job as an ogryn and crowd controlling the enemy.
What makes it worse is that you then need to be within 20 meters of your team mates for the talent to function, which is just terrible design.
To get maximum benefit from Won't Give In, all 3 of your team mates have to be downed and honestly speaking, if 3/4 team members are downed, then the match is gonna be over.
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>>503473426
Get better
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>>503522967
do you honestly think fatshark plays their own games
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>>503521092
>because a heat mechanic means UNIQUE BLESSINGS
This is fatshark, do not get your hopes up.
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>>503521092
And people are just gonna go shred, rampage, headtaker or slaughterer anyway
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>>503480346
It’s PS5 only for the record. No last gen shitters.
>>503480535
>>503480646
Next to no one plays Xcox hence their usual absence
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>>503523136
>do you honestly think fatshark plays their own games
Worse, they do but they are all fucking Malice or regular Heresy shitters who've never touched auric maelstrom.
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>>503511170
just fell to my knees
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>>503522292
between 2-5% and 10-25% crit chance based on charge level
what the fuck is this wording, what does that mean?
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>>503523586
the ranges are including blessings from tier 1 to 4
so at tier 1 it's
>2% to 10%
and at tier 4 it's
>5% to 25%
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>>503514618
It used to be really good a loooong time ago when it'd nearly one hit mixed hordes on lights. They nerfed it and then forgot about it for like 10 patches. Just don't use it.
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>high concentration of enemies
yeah nah
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>>503521971
I have no idea who that is. Also I just beat Houston breakout on my first attempt in stealth, which kinda surprised me
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>>503520469
>>503522967
100% skill issue
>20% gunner resistance on one of my curios
what the fuck are you using all six slots for on the other 2
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>>503520469
why isn't your zealot in melee range of them the moment they step into sight?
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would I be doing a service to /coopg/ by recording me playing an auric as ogryn so that our local real life ogryns can see that dealing with gunners isn't hard or would I just be an attention whore
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are these 4 the only talents that will directly quell a certain amount of peril when you perform the given action?
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>>503525240
Please do, I need to know how to ogryn personally
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>push dog that's running past me
>nothing happens
>go to revive teammate since dog is locked on someone else
>instantly turns and jumps on me right as a silent trapper shoots and plays the pre-shot noise after the net's already sailing over me
lmaoshark
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>>503525260
and then you also have vent and weapon blessings.
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>>503525240
You're getting too invested. There's plenty of footage you can link without throwing yourself in but if you must a single 30s clip of you side rolling into gunners may be acceptable.
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>>503525407
right, but I was mostly focused on rounding up all the ways of quelling without needing to vent
what weapon blessings quell peril?
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Fartshart really had to fuck up loot in a game after all those fucking years
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?
Why am I now getting low power turds like this? Before their overhaul all items from boxes were in like 297 - 300 power range for me. I could open few boxes and I was flooding in 300 Power items. Now their Power levels are spread all over. Fucking swede snowniggers

Fuck them for including this worthless Power system to begin with, it was a retarded cancer since the beginning. Should have finally removed it completely and not make it more prominent.
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>>503525529
>>503525407
oh no shit it's the force swords and staffs
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>>503525559
interestingly enough I was about to make a similar post, I was crafting some gear in-game right now and was becoming frustrated that nothing came up 300, 298 at best, when just a couple weeks ago before the patch it was easy to make whatever I wanted.

I should've made sure to craft one of everything before the patch, I guess.
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>rats say they have it good
>meanwhile darktide crafting is shit
>they fix darktide crafting
>rats now have it bad
I don't believe it
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>>503525559
is it only the dlc weapon that are lower power or everything?
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Just encountered a ranged stealth zealot
He sucked ass btw
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>>503526182
>>503526182
They improved a lot in this patch admittedly
>Chances for Reds are higher
>You now know RNG chances for particular tiers from every box
>Can drop dlc weapons FINALLY, including reds
>Game will prioritize dropping weapons with illusions you haven't unlocked yet
>Faster character leveling
>Can instantly go to Veteran after buying the game, instead of being forced to grind Recruit
>Items from Veteran can drop up to 300 Power now
>If you are in private game with a friend, you can go with him even on Cata with your 1lvl character
>
>Only hosts needs to have WoM for Cata to be playable (even though they should detach it from dlc completely already for fucks sake)
And maybe something else I forgot about. But they just had to fuck with Power spread on weapons for some fucking reason. And we still can't select weapon Trait and Properties normally and max them out. Yes, Darktide started with far worse crafting and loot than VT2 and had it worse until recently once it went through those 3 crafting reworks, but it's finally better. Funnily VT2 already has even better system in Weaves, but it's tied to fucking Weaves. Just put it in normal game mode already Jesus Christ

People started sperging out over this, rightfully of course. So Fatshark claimed that this Power fuckery is just a bug haha and that they will fix it. And apparently they "fixed" it
>Tweaked the power of items received from crafting: Each Hero level past level 30 increases the minimum power of crafted items by 1. This means that at sufficiently high levels, crafted items are guaranteed to be 300 item power. Only the level from the highest level character is considered.
Which doesn't even fix loot system, only crafting and only if you grinded a lot already. But it is some solution for old autists at least. Too bad about noobs.
>>503526528
Everything is more random
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>>503488858
>equip melee weapon
>push-block the burster as it jumps at you (if you're too early you'll push it back but it won't explode)
>immediately dodge backwards
>burster explodes without dealing damage to you
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>>503528441
I mean, you only need a single 300 of each weapon, then you upgrade it however you like.
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>>503497848
On a knife maybe
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I've grown to enjoy the french girl psyker
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>>503529520
shes literally the best variant. literal bantu african pulled straight from the Congo being the worst obviously
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>>503528441
the crafting is still broken, despite their alleged fix, it still gives sub-300 items
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>>503529520
I've grown to enjoy the male judge zealot even. But the male savant psyker is just a pain in the ass.
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>>503483321
Shock maul makes specials dance funny
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>>503529520
the only personnality that has a decent "For the Emperor!" cheer
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what are the shortest missions?
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>>503530102
Rolling Steel obviously
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>>503529520
I love her because I pigged for the Enforcer armor.
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>>503530102
Rolling Steel, Consignment Yard HL-17-36, and Hab Dreyko if you know what you're doing.
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>>503524840
>what the fuck are you using all six slots for on the other 2
CDR
Extra toughness, extra health
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>>503530102
screaming bell
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>>503530267
>>503530445
am I better off doing those and forgetting quickplay when leveling up new classes?
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plasma pistol when
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>>503529445
>a knife benefits more from 2% sprint speed than having more damage
No, stop trying. Just stop trying this stupid "mobility is good if" shit. It's never good
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So I'm only missing the zealot... leveling up the zealot is going to be better than ogryn r-r-right??
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Fellow ogryns, is bombs away just bad, or am I using it wrong? It feels like a rock but with small bombs that deal minimal damage.
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>>503532328
It's for stagger. I use frag bomb
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>>503532328
It's effectively the ogryn's stun grenade.
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>>503532328
It's a strong recovery tool, the explosions will the last the entire duration of a revive
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>>503532328
it's shit on purpose because it's a tax skill you take so you can get both slam and soften them up
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>>503531978
Zealot is actually fun
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>Inverse damage falloff
>Shit hipfire accuracy
>Flak armor laughs off damage
Serious question, are infantry lasguns the worst guns in the game?
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>>503531749
quickplay is faster and better exp, especially if the run has books to pick up, I think. But I haven't tried it, I guess if you want to mindlessly grind the same sedition to malice hab dreykos and consignment yards to level up it might work out slightly faster if you're familiar with the game and you know how to optimise your lowbie gear.
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>>503533987
just click on heads bro
and no thats the autopistol
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>>503533987
With Marksman's Focus the mk IX (and technically VII) can hit the Gunner one-shot breakpoint, which makes them great for mopping up ranged heavy spawns, and you don't have to steal all the ammo to keep doing it.
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>>503531978
you will become a zealot main
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>>503524840
>100% skill issue
Nah, it's bullshit and should be called out as such.
If fatshark wants to pull the fucking "the tank class is too tanky" argument, but then leave VoC vets with Iron Will and zealot crit builds that generate so much toughness and toughness regen alone, and do literally nothing to them, then the entire argument is fucking stupid.
The only reason why they wanted to nerf ogryn is purely because:
>1. they are fucking stupid
>2. they are intentionally malicious about it and hate ogryn and ogryn players
>3. it's a mixture of both.

The fact is that ogryn currently is the most underpowered class when it compared to the other 3.
Doesn't mean that ogryn is unplayable, but the fact remains that Vets, Zealots and Psykers get so much shit in their skill trees and weapons that they can create absolutely retarded builds that shit all over everything, like scrier's gaze gun psyker, or shroudfield crit zealot that can pop shroudfield every couple of seconds.

I play ogryn because I like it, and what I'm seeing as an ogryn player, is a worrying fucking trend it comes to the class.
Ogryn's skill tree is already anemic when it comes to build variety, and not just because TOOOONK or LOOOOGGGGER.
But because there are less fucking nodes in the ogryn tree as a whole, unlike the other classes.
So it basically just hamstrings any build variety with ogryns because there's basically 3 paths for you to choose, and that doesn't even take into account how abysmal 2 ogryn's keystones are. And then it gets worse because ogryn has less weapon variety.
>>Ogryn: 30 blue nodes, 12 combat ability nodes, 12 keystone nodes, 3 blitz nodes
>Ogryn total: 57 nodes

>>Psyker: 34 blue nodes, 15 combat ability nodes, 17 keystone nodes, 10 blitz nodes
>Psyker total: 76

>>Zealot: 36 blue nodes, 13 combat ability nodes, 11 keystone nodes, 3 blitz nodes
>Zealot total: 63

>>Veteran: 43 blue nodes, 13 combat ability nodes, 15 keystone nodes, 3 blitz nodes
>Veteran total: 74
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>>503533987
I wouldn't say they're bad, but they're not particularly good in the traditional sense.
What people get wrong is that they're not generalist weapons, it's not your basic M16. They're for one thing and one thing only and that's clicking heads at max range.
With the right build on Veteran you can keep the map completely clean of all shooters, specials and ranged elites with little effort. Ragers won't have a chance to get close if you spot them soon enough.
Just like other sniping weapons like Boltgun and Revolver, you can kill anything you can see, but Inf Las barely has to be reloaded so you can just keep clicking away.
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>>503532328
You can take it for boss damage if your build is otherwise lacking in it.
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>>503531978
It is.
Zealot is just a better ogryn.
>but crowd control
Means nothing when zealot can kill all the enemies faster than the ogryn.
Nevermind that zealot has literally stun nades and the chorus/relic ability for crowd control too.
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>>503535030
>The fact is that ogryn currently is the most underpowered class when it compared to the other 3.
If ogryns didn't have the pickaxes then i would agree
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>>503534674
Even the flak gunners? I'm not good enough at clicking heads to make Marksman's Focus work for me, but I'm starting to see where its niche is at I guess.
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>>503521971
who the fuck opens a camera and behaves like this
the comments are just as weird
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>>503521971
Is this the payday Tanner?
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>>503528441
Admittedly I havent played in like a year but why does it matter what the power level of weps in boxes is? Just hit craft like 4 times and you get a 300, and doesn't making it red max it out anyway
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>>503535418
Not him but I play mk7 keystoneless because MF doesn't do a whole lot for it. It's worth downgrading to a 2 tap on gunners for the fire rate because mk9 shoots slower than I can aim, and all regular shooters get popped in one shot regardless.
And the added DPS makes it cook reapers.
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Are +stamina curios redundant on ogryn?
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>>503536096
Yes
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>>503506074
Darktide has skillbased matchmaking
:^)
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>>503536096
Yes.
Health and toughness curios are more useful.
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>>503536096
2 tuff 1 health on zealout and ogryn
3 tuff on vet
2 tuff 1 stam on psyker
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>>503535030
skill issue lol
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>>503497848
Maybe if you're speedrunning, otherwise that is a retarded claim.
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ogryn niggas be like "yeah I can throw an infinite number of ragers (the enemy fatshark has stated as having killed the highest number of players) around like ragdolls but gunners make me the big sad because I'm bad so we're weak :("
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>>503537540
gunners make everyone sad howeverbeit
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>>503537540
>>503537810
I like gunners. Free scoreboard padding
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>>503536819
>2 tuff 1 health on zealout
>+toughness on the class that should be full toughness at all times
?
???
adding more toughness is literally a negative for zealot
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>>503535964
What do you do when say surprise rager packs close into damage falloff distance? Asking because I usually use my gun to thin them out at the very least (boltgun will straight delete them) and I've very bad results using the lasgun in that role.
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>>503537540
If I'm rocking a shield I can slide advance with it and close the distance without too much trouble most of the time. If I'm not using a shield I can use the charge with other melee weapons. Gun lugger is almost immune to range damage when outfitted properly. While it does suck being a big fat slow target for gunners, you're not completely vulnerable to them if you play smart.

If my whole team is dead that might throw a wrench in one of those options. At that point it becomes a skill issue.
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>>503537540
>"yeah I can throw an infinite number of ragers (the enemy fatshark has stated as having killed the highest number of players)
Unironic skill issue. Ragers are a fucking joke.
Only noobs and retards die to them.
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>>503538627
this but gunners
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>>503537810
*dashes in on zealot*
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>>503538196
>If my whole team is dead that might throw a wrench in one of those options
That's the problem with ogryn.
Ogryn just doesn't do as well if he is alone and he is significantly harder to play when alone.
This is the reason why clutching a mission as ogryn can be a chore.
Even the sweatlord nerds who do regular solo runs point out how ogryn is much harder in true solo runs compared to other classes.
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>>503539047
you watch youtubers play this game?
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Why can't I be a pretty girl in this game?
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>>503539047
>trapper net phases through the horde and very slightly grazes your gigantic hitbox
heh, nothin personnel kid
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true solo more like true kite and stealth
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>Sorry your mission was aborted to unexpected error
Eat 5000000000 dicks
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>>503538162
Throw a grenade then stab them to death.
Using the Infantry Lasgun at point blank range is a waste of time, even though it still kills them quickly enough.
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>>503539314
I don't think there is any Swedish game that has pretty women.
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>>503539556
Kerillian in vermintide 2
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>>503539117
true solo runners like chocob have always been a part of the tide community
you just exposed yourself as a newfag
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>>503537810
To reliably kill gunners from long range:
Vets have the entire fucking ranged weapon section barring shotguns to take them out.
Psykers can assail or brain burst. Or use most of the guns like vet.
Zealot also mostly has same the weapons as vet, and they can also stealth and dash around to stab the fuck out of them.

Ogryn gets rock, kickback. Rest of the ranged weapond just aren't made for precise long range shots.
The new stubbers will give an option, but we have no idea if they are even good.
They could easily be abysmal dogshit for all we know.
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>>503539542
the machine spirit is testy today, varlet
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>>503539642
lmao so defensive
maybe if you didn't get all your opinions from youtubers you'd have the critical thinking skills to not be dogshit at the game
whiny pissbaby lmao
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>>503539642
ChocoB is unironically my inspiration to step out of meta and git guder
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Is it possible to actually make a cute girl?
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>>503539556
Go figure...
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>>503539642
>the tide community
You're on 4chan, not Reddit. No one gives a fuck about your community in a game where 90% of games end without anyone saying a word.
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Just got Atoma's Elite Guard and Auric Survivor with friends. Glad the itemization made it easier for us all to want to do it and be geared enough. Thanks for reading my blog
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>>503539924
*crack fingers*
Shit, shit, cute, shit shit
shit, shit, shit, shit, man
Cute, shit, cute, shit
Shite, shit, shit, cute
shit, Autistic american deaf waifu


I have spoken.
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>>503539940
>>in a game where 90% of games end without anyone saying a word.
>doesn't say gg
A fag 100% confirmed.
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>>503539047
I got lucky today. My whole team got wiped out and some people left (big surprise I know). I was on death's door and I ran into a little side room to jab myself with some meth before I charged in to attempt to save the players that hadn't ditched. That's when a chorus Zealot joined and boosted my toughness. We were able to break through easily enough and turn things around.

Never give up. Even if it seems hopeless and there's no point in preserving. Struggle and find a way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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>>503539736
any ogryn weapon can deal with it though
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Best team comp
1 Karsolas Ogryn
1 Branx Ogryn
1 Ranged Veteran
And what else?
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>>503539841
I think my Zealot is cute.
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>>503539736
Your melee weapon kills them just fine
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>>503540479
>1 Karso-
stopped reading there, shit comp
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>>503535418
Yep, both gunner types. With the right build mk IX only needs to get 3-4 stacks of MF to reach it, and can 2 headshot ragers
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>>503540334
>gg
Sure is reddit here. You are meant to tell the hookrat baiting retard in your team to kill themselves.
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>>503540334
Yep there's that classic reddit toxic positivity
Let's be real, you have the darrktide subreddit open in another tab RIGHT NOW. No one gives a single fuck what you have to say, so I'm not gonna engage you further. Keep crying bitchboy, you're too retarded for ogryn.
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>>503540450
I'm pretty good at nipping at snipers with my stubber but if I'm getting swarmed by other shit, choking on pox gas, dodging mutants & flamers counter sniping becomes a rather dubious proposition for me. Those are the times I hope our resident veteran/pysker is good at long range shit.

I can fare a little better with the counter sniper role as a gun lugger with the braced toughness regen giving me a little bit of breathing room but I'd still prefer having a dedicated ranged specialist killing player.
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>>503539642
>its a community, guys!!!
None of those people on youtube give a shit about anyone else but themselves and maybe some small circle of orbiter-friends.

These are video games where you hot-join a map with three other random retards and just enjoy the gameplay at a challenge level you feel capable of tackling.

You say gg at the end to be polite and thats not even unique to tide games, its just general gaming etiquette.
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WTF is his problem?
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>server dies 2 seconds before the mission finishes
scammed
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>>503541012
I don't like saying gg. Feels fake to me. Like leaving likes on social media.
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>>503541808
No one is going to care if you don't say it, usually, so that's fine too
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>>503540334
Are you trying to be a stereotype on purpose or did you really think you sounded cool here
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>>503541058
Pick up that plasteel. Throw it in the plasteel can.
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>>503541058
W...why is his codpiece so....big?
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>>503539736
>barring shotguns
Shotguns can still one tap gunners at long range. The shot spread on the slug shotgun (even without using the slug) is narrow enough to land all headshots easily.
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>>503540479
That's it. You don't need any more
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>>503540876
>toxic positivity
kekkle
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>>503539924
Would some of them ngl
>>503540260
Based
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>>503522428
I believe you anon. You can carry them.
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I doxxed someone and then drove to his house and vandalized his car because he didn't say gg to me
You better have some good infosec to be pulling that shit
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>>503540260
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>>503449816
>Skitarii don't do tech shit. They are just foot soldiers for the admech.
Ok well tech priest then
>Also the problem here is Grendyl, Fatshark is intentionally keeping him/her/it a secret and what they are, so bringing him out just to add another class is kind of underwhelming
I never said they have to bring him out, they can just say he apprehended them at some point in the past and kept them locked away somewhere. Also we do at least know Grendyl is a guy going off the cinematic, I think we can at least say that much.
>Just because a Grendyl is an inquisitor it doesn't make him all powerful
Yes, I’m aware of this, but that still doesn’t stop them from bending the rules wherever they’re confident they can get away with it, let’s not forget the AdMech regularly does things the rest of the Imperium would find questionable at best and downright heretical at worst since they’re effectively their own polity granted a pretty absurd amount of freedom given they supply the rest of the human race with all their weapons, I’m sure there’s a kind of common “as long as they don’t find out” justification that both sides regularly employ.
>So anything partaining to the admech is usually left alone because being too nosy or otherwise doing something bad
True enough, but Inquisitors aren’t strangers to the political gambling game, they do it with other factions that have just as much if not more power/importance, the smart ones are just more sparing about it
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The fifth reject will be a Daemonhost
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>>503545515
Better than a Daemoncrat, am I right?
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I finally understand ogryn. My role is to carry those three shitters throughout the entire game. I'm having fun.
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>>503545978
holy ZASED
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>>503545310
The techpriest reject can just be on the prison ship waiting for an AdMech ship to pick him up for servitorization, and gets recruited out of convenience, because the AdMech ship got lost in the warp/delayed thanks to the Great Rift etc. Being a prisoner also gives an easy excuse why the techpriest reject starts off with barely any bionics after having most of it stripped off as punishment.
The level up cinematics might be a bit awkward however, but they can just disable them if they don't want to make new ones.
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so is zealot a melee only class?
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>>503546585
Yes, bravo.
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>>503546585
Mostly
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>>503546698
>>503546734
how does a good zealot play? what are the does and don't do that shit retard of zealot?
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>>503539924
Top middle looks exactly like my sister.
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>>503546872
run up to things and hit them
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>>503539841
There's like 1 decent face and 2 semi non retarded hair styles
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>>503547131
I would fuck your sister
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>>503547131
I'm jerking thinking of her atm.
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>>503546872
Good zealots aggro packs of gunners and shooters into melee. Bad zealots run 4 rooms ahead
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>>503546872
Pick knife, mk 4 saber, rashad combat axe or eviscerator
Learn to throw knives if you want to use bolters or flamers
I recommend the Vraks AIG (blue infantry autogun) if you want to use flame grenades
Always have a way to deal with hordes and armor
Kill ranged enemies in melee. You gotta learn
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this was on auric maelstrom
surprisingly he didn't do that bad but goddamn way to torture yourself for no reason
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>>503548153
meleepsyker is actually busted but no one realizes it because most psyker players are giant little pussies scared shitless of having to 1v1 a rager in melee
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>5600x
>3090
>4k

changed to a 5700x3d and framerate is about 30% higher with minimums feeling way better, definitely worth it

darktide is now the second game i've played where i spent the minimum on the game itself and way more on hardware to make it run better
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>>503548574
Yeah I was honestly surprised at how hard he raped hordes without slaughterer and that dogshit wep
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>>503549027
Scoreboard
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>>503549239
I already closed the game but he had like 400k damage to my 700k or some shit, I was using the karsolas, almost matched my total kills stat
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>>503549425
F5 for scoreboard
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>>503548843
Couldn’t find 5800x3d?
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>>503549734
they were like $450 vs $140
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>>503549863
Damn. So you're poor?
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>>503549943
seethespic coping with his humiliation over being a poor brown bum by pretending to play rich kid social games lol
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>>503550131
Lol. You got more butthurt than i had even hoped
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>>503549592
retard
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>>503549863
You sure? Swore I saw some for $250-300
But yeah, you make do.
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>>503550405
Press F5 and the scoreboard history appears. What don't you understand?
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>>503550505
Never mind I just checked and I was mistaking the X pricing for x3d
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Does warp splitting help with voidstrike bowling balls?
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any good zealot build for leveling? left, middle or right?
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>>503551183
Right
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>>503551183
Right then left
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>>503550131
Don't bother with him, he's the resident Pajeet.
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what's preventing me from using my mastery levels on a new class and giving a low level character a weapon with 300+ power, full tier 4 blessings and perks?
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>>503550615
Oh, I get it now. It's not working on my end so if you could help troubleshoot it that would be very helpful.
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>>503549734
not being produced or sold in the EU anymore and I'll assume that's the case for NA as well
the 5700x3d runs you 200€ for 7% less performance than the 5800x3d at half the cost, kind of a no brainer and I'm surprised nobody ever mentioned this before the 5800x3d went EOP
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>>503552760
Are you using the psykhanium mod? You need to be in the mourningstar or in the psykhanium to open it. Can't be in operative selection
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>>503553192
I'm hitting F and 5 at the same time, individually, while holding the other key and all of that in reverse order and nothing is happening so I don't know how I could show you my scoreboard.
Is this some clever ruse to find a scoreboard history that doesn't even exist?
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>>503553406
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are flamethrowers a noob trap?
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>>503553958
It has it's uses, but you better be good with throwing knives
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>>503553958
one of the best ranged weapon for zealot
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>>503553958
no
being able to near instantly delete everything other than crushers is very useful when you're being overwhelmed
and both zealot and psyker have blitzes to use for sniping specials so losing that functionality doesn't mean much
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>>503554392
>>503554319
any tips? the swap animation already killed my hype for them...
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>>503554608
throwing a knife cancel the swap animation, same for bolter
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>>503554608
You can cancel the swap animation with a knife throw
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>>503552348
an obsessive desire to finish your other masteries before using the weapons you like.
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>>503554730
>>503554750
so if I don't use knives should I even bother with it? what blessings?
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>>503553641
mine doesnt have that
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>>503553641
I use a smaller, different keyboard so I don't know what the equivalent is but i dont have a key like that
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>>503557550
Shouldn't have bought a memeboard. I hope you at least paid less than you would've for a full keyboard.
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Fatshart are insane for thinking the laspistol needed to be semi auto with that ROF.
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What's the dump stat on chainaxes? What about plasma guns, and warp staves?
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What kind of Zealot build do you run with the Mk XV Eviscerator and can it benefit from a crit build or is it too slow?
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>>503546585
Melee focused, but has a secondary.

>>503546872
A good Zealot knows how to properly use his secondary to elevate his melee play. Do not run into 10 Reapers already churning, do not run into pox gas/bomber fire, do not run in blind with with several Trappers spawning in, use your secondary to kill threats much faster and from safety since you don't have to close the distance. You learn in time.
Flamer is godly at horde clearing if you can work with it. Revolver executes specials the fastest and you can basically use it as your primary it's so good. Bolter for armored elites. Fire shotgun for countering trappers, dogs, Nurgles, and objectives. Lots of good options, choose one you prefer and covers your weaknesses.
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>>503558620
yes it can
easily
>Bloodletter on Evis give you easy access to bleed
>Shred for extra crit chance
>Scourge so you get extra crit chance from hitting bleeding enemies, and critical hits cause bleed
absolutely the eviscerator can be part of a crit build
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>>503558620
sure. it feels much better with increased attack speed though.
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>>503558620
charge blazing piety shred rampage
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>>503558620
>can it benefit from a crit build or is it too slow?
It definitely can. You don't even need to run Blazing Piety. You can just run Shred. I always run Shred on it so I can, at the very least, grab Invocation of Death.
>get lots of crits from Shred+Scourge to power IOD+Enduring Faith
>take Inexorable Judgement or Martyr for bonus attack speed
>constantly pop FOTF for stagger, toughness, armor piercing crit, and 20% more attack speed
Let it blend. I believe that not running Shred on the Eviscerator is a mistake.
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>>503553958
Absolutely not, you just have to know when to use it
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>>503558620
Knives, Furry, Inexorable Judgment
Flak Maniac Shred Rampage on the sword

Shred is way better than Savage Sweep, you really don't need the clear speed. The ability to swing wildly into mixed hordes and have the crits wreck any maulers and ragers is great.
But I take IJ because the 100% reliable mutant one shot is invaluable, and it's just overall a great keystone.
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>>503556260
If you don't use throwing knives you're basically leaving yourself with zero medium to long range options, which is a terrible idea.
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>>503558605
warp resistance for staves, mobility or defence for most other weapons
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>>503557550
>yeah bro I bought a 5% keyboard, bro they just feel better to use you know what I mean bro?
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>>503560938
Cool. I had my suspicion it was warp resistance on the staves.
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>>503558620
I do rampage + bloodthirsty and rev every other attack for increased cleave, which will also activate bloodthirsty (guaranteed crit) on kills. Just need to be careful in mixed hordes so you don't catch onto something at an inopportune time.
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>>503563153
>>503563153
>>503563153
>>503563153
>>503563153


MIGRATE
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>>503563182
Not even 5 posts to you incredible tard.
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>>503485894
>>503486601
>>503488504
>>503489601
>>503490038
Not that big a deal. If anything this is because of the Xbox and Xbox alone, time and time again it’s failed to meet the standard for current gen consoles.
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>>503500667
> Allegedly died in a car crash some months ago
I’d like a source.
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>>503501873
thank you greta :)
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>>503557725
thats a heckin smug chinese cartoon child /b/ro
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>>503546408
Agreed. There are ways to make it work basically. It’s all just wishful thinking but if they really wanted it it can happen…
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>>503490549
Real life accuracy
>>503490602
Also this
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>>503512865
Many such cases
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>>503558620
That’s a cool character. I want it.



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