Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #7604 - Irrelevant Antagonist Edition>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Official Trailerhttps://youtu.be/OSOyFiOiNd4>Sonic is getting a five issue crossover miniseries with DC, further collaboration will continue through 2026https://youtu.be/t8b1woTWRIY>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Em6-SjjaYQE>IDW Release Dates:Sonic the Hedgehog #75 - 11 December 2024Sonic the Hedgehog #76 - 05 February 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #77 - 19 March 2025>General link compilation:https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4Phttps://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0>Perfect System Collection:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org//sthg/ OC info:sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive//sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Thread: >>503432647
Balling the save the universe
TRIP AND FANG!!!
>>503483147Who's the pajeethog fighting?
I’m gonna say what no one has the guts to say.Design-wise, Sonic Lost World has the best Modern Sonic model to date. If they had just omitted the brown shit lips it would have been perfect.
Reminder that Sonic is brand mascot and nothing more. He's not representational of anything other than being a mascot for SEGA as a brand. He exists to make SEGA money, so they can use it making Yakuza games, the series they actually like. He's not "the wind" he's not anything other than a means of making money, stop deluding yourself.
Good morning. I (Espio's human wife) love my husband.I'll have the whiteboard open within the next hour or so.
This, is BOY.
>>503483301>pajeethogBlaze and Babylon rogues are the only pajeets
The next Storybook game: Lolita
>>503483318>short quillsno
"Sonic" = Sonic the Hedgehog"Kid Sonic" = Kid growing and learning to be like Sonic the Hedgehog = Miles "Tails" Prower, Sonic's little brother sidekick."Girl Sonic" = Feminine equivalent to Sonic the Hedgehog = Amy Rose, Sonic's self-proclaimed girlfriend figure. "Anti Sonic" = Against Sonic the Hedgehog as the antithesis = Knuckles the Echidna, Sonic's friendly rival and fighting buddy. "Nega Sonic" = Polar opposite of Sonic the Hedgehog, the negative to Sonic's positive = Blaze the Cat, Sonic's foil from a parallel world. "Dark Sonic" = Dark reflection of Sonic the Hedgehog = Shadow the Hedgehog"Light Sonic" = Light reflection of Sonic the Hedgehog = Silver the Hedgehog
boywife
>>503483467>liking wiggly hentai tentacle quills
Anti Sonic = FangNega Sonic = FangDark Sonic = Fang
>>503483398Nah, he's dark-skinned, he's low IQ, he's hairy, he has a unibrow, he wears kohl eyelimer, he's a whiny incel who simps hard for women... Silver's your standard pajeet.
>>503483446Tania growing out her quills to resemble maria's hair!
SAAR DO NO REDEEM THE TRIGGER
>>503483480None of those other characters are Sonic the Hedgehog, so none of those titles fit those other characters.
No vault can hold me.
I want to fit inside of Sonic the Hedgehog
>Pinky promise you won get genocidal again?
>>503483661You just described Jet and Blaze, especially Blaze since she's flat ugly and very bad at her job as a monarch
Metal Sonic = The Real Sonic = Anti Loathsome Copy
>>503484017I wish they let Amy have more outfits. I love these
Wanna smell me?
>>503484016Literally none of those things describe Jet or Blaze. Cope Pajeetverfag.
>>503483661>he's low IQDon't disrespect my Indian YouTube guy
>>503483325Sonic the Hedgehog is a fictional character. The official character of Sonic is pic-related. Stop fixating on surface-level constructs of the franchise being a "Brand", because the actual franchise itself is a creative work brought into the world via talented creatives and the like. Sonic is a Mascot, and what that actually means is a character that embodies a particular set of concepts and ideals represented via the character as the personification of those ideals as a symbol. What Sonic is actually the "mascot" of is speed, freedom and coolness. That is the spirit Sega, or Sonic Team, wants to evoke through using Sonic the Hedgehog as their mascot.
>>503484298Low IQ, she had to talk to a caveman to make her understand what "duty" means.
Blaze is Japanese.
>>503484282Was he?He was nice to me on the whiteboards.
>>503484235Disgusting smelly filthy animal
>>503483661He's Italian/Japanese, ain't no way in hell he's close to pajeet levels of Blaze the shat and Babylon rogues
>>503484548>Was he?No. Quit giving dramafags (You)s.
>>503483801>None of those other characters are Sonic the HedgehogShadow and Silver ARE Sonic, that's kinda the point with both. But regardless, the Kid/Girl/Anti/Nega labels do not mean "Sonic" himself, it specifies a certain relationship TO Sonic. "Kid Sonic" is the kid that wants to be like Sonic. Not Sonic as a kid. "Girl Sonic" is the girl equivalent to Sonic. Not Sonic as a girl."Anti Sonic" is the antithesis placed against Sonic. Not Sonic as an antithesis of himself. "Nega Sonic" is the polar opposite equivalent to Sonic, like the other end of a magnet. Not Sonic himself as a negative version or whatever.By contrast, "Dark" and "Light" inherently mean a mirror image of the same thing. Shadow the Hedgehog as a character is designed to be a reflection of Sonic, but the mirror in question is one of darkness. Shadow is the dark incarnation of Sonic, as the Sonic Heroes manual describes.
>>503484594He's a filthy dark-skinned Pajeet with a giant unibrow, eyeliner, and smells like curry. He uses his powers to fly over the streets and shit directly onto them from the air.
>>503484590I just realized he kinda resembles Nega?
>>503484541El zorro!
>>503484725Sounds like fun
>>503484625Aw dammit, bamboozled by dramafaggotry again.
>>503484704>Shadow and Silver ARE SonicNah, they're LIKE Sonic, but they're not Sonics. They're a Shadow and a Silver.
>>503484385Bro you got played. You fell for a marketing trap. These stories are superficial. There is no deeper meaning to it other than lining their pockets, you're delusional to think they at all adhere to any of that garbage. The writing is so inconsistent that you have to bend the narrative to fit your molds. SEGA literally only cares about the money, so they'll shove underdeveloped slop ion your face and tell you it has a super rich and deep stories but infact only serve as to tell nothing, advance nothing and ultimatley go back to zero so they can shove out whatever boring ass game they need to next. You're nan idiot for trying to push this idea that Sonic exists for any other reason than to make money for SEGA. You're a stupid ass consumer trying to give this BRAND a deeper meaning than anything ever intended.
>>503484541If she was Japanese she would've killed herself from how much she has.
>>503483301The Time Eater's little bro called the Second Devourer Get itHe's the second one and the devourer of seconds.
BOY is strong.
>>503484901She tried, Sonic didn't let her.
>>503484725>a pajeet is into a pajeeteh makes sense i guess.
>>503484885You might as well say that about all fiction everywhere, and you would be wrong every single time. Because every creative work was crafted from the minds of creative individuals who have passion for the art they make and the stories they tell. Sonic the Hedgehog is a genuine work of art created from the passion of Sonic Team. SEGA as a corporation wants to use that to make money, but the actual creators of Sonic created Sonic out of passion for the character and his story.
>>503484984He needs to be so he can hold you down and rape you with his boypenis.
>>503485058Wait, Silver's into Surge?
>>503485029But Sonic is free like he wind! he would let her do whatever she wants!
My girl Ulala needs more love...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBFjF8lRbNM
>>503485058Whisper is black, not indian
>>503485108No wonder Sonic has been mediocre for so long, stupid faggot schizos like you delude yourself into thinking there is literally any fucking passion left there, especially from the Japanese.
I love sage, do you anon?
The entire cast is pajeets, why do you think their pushing jew propaganda into the movies?
>>503484880It does not matter how distinct they are as individuals. The core concept and foundation for Shadow the Hedgehog and even Silver the Hedgehog as characters is in being versions of Sonic. Professor Gerald sought out to create the Ultimate Lifeform, and the end result was a Sonic clone spawned from demonic alien blood. Thus, a "Dark Sonic" was born. Shadow as an individual is not LITERALLY the specific person born on Christmas Island or the reincarnation of the test pilot who died breaking the sound barrier, but what he represents is a dark reflection of that same individual. As a character, his function is to be another Sonic. And Silver is an attempt to re-create all of that, but with light instead of dark, as ANOTHER version of Sonic.
>>503485209No he does whatever HE wants and HE forces everyone to live until he says otherwise
>>503485029Dammit why the fuck does he interfere with everything?
>>503485350I do not.
>>503485348If you don't like Sonic and see no value in Sonic, then leave. As long as you remain here, your argument can never be valid because you must find value in Sonic as a franchise to continue to post in the Sonic general about Sonic.
>>503485382Okay but they're still not Sonic the Hedgehog so your own definition doesn't support the titles.
>>503485474That doesn't sound like the wind...
>>503485516No, the fact that faggots like you breathe the same air as me disgusts me, you have no value, and neither does your empty words. You're desperately pathetic and do not get to dictate what I do. Kill yourself, you poison and blight on this series.
dramafag is getting weaker
>>503484541>Forehead bindi
Kodomo franchise
>>503485774Sparky drained his power with his infernal autism.
>>503485614You're missing the fact that I derived the title "Dark Sonic" from how Shadow has been officially described in official media. Shadow is Dark Sonic, that is what he fundamentally is. "But he isn't LITERALLY Sonic, so how can he be a dark version of Sonic?" What, and Mephiles isn't a "Dark Shadow"? A character whose very DESIGN Only exists because he absorbed Shadow's shadow and spent the whole '06 Shadow campaign trying to pull Shadow back into the darkness? You're gonna say that he isn't 'Dark Shadow' because Mephiles as an individual is a different person from Shadow? This is about character roles and archetypes in fictional stories. Many characters exist with a specific purpose of filling a particular role that functions adjacently to another character. The "Anti Sonic" is a character that stands against Sonic, on an antithetical level. That does not mean it is literally Sonic himself against himself, it is anyone who fits the bill of being "Anti" (against) Sonic. That specific role is Knuckles, Sonic's rival who challenges him on an ideological level. Knuckles obviously is not Sonic, and that is the point. He is NOT Sonic, he is ANTI Sonic. He's the guy who'll call Sonic out for doing something he is morally opposed to, argue that Sonic's way of life is fundamentally wrong or flawed.
>>503485508
>>503485698>No, the fact that faggots like you breathe the same air as me disgusts me,Well then obviously I have a ton of value and my means carry a ton of meaning to 'em, to incite such a reaction within you. Thus, the Sonic franchise has depth and meaning to it, that you can never destroy, because any attempt you make at doing so will only further prove that it exists in the first place.
>>503486028If your idea of decent is a Windows XP wallpaper and floating popping in rails, or a shitty remake of a 13 year old game with maybe 2 hours of extra content and you're satisfied with that, you deserve the rope too. Boost is also cancer, if you needed to hear that.
>>503485350Best character, finally we're focusing on eggmans development.
post your tier lists
>>503486210I do love Knuckles, however.
>>503486256damn you're one hateful sack of misery
Sonic
>>503486117Then he wouldn't be called the "Anti Sonic" he wouldn't be called the anything Sonic he's just he a guy against Sonic.
>>503486432Sorry, I don't like low effort trash like you do.
Silver
>>503486210How can anyone hate him, look at how genuine his suffering is
>>503486271Find an autistic girl Be friends with her by being trust worthy and funny Introduce her to Sonic little by little Show her more of your masculine side Remove all other competition for her and give her the competition Stay with her for quite some time Tell her to leave and call a hooker and tell her to talk to you about Sonic.
>>503486117>He's the guy who'll call Sonic out for doing something he is morally opposed to,That would be great if Knuckles were allowed to do that, but we all know Sonic is always right and anything any character says is from someone less experienced than our Paragon
How would you defend yourself from her?
Shadow
>>503486916Throw a bucket on her head.
>>503486916Water, she'd fry herself
>>503486508The term "Anti Sonic" MEANS "Against Sonic", because that is what "Anti-" as a suffix means when paired with anything! "Anti-Me" would be someone against me. Like, in this case, you. Obviously, you are not me. You are against me. Therefor, you are 'Anti Me'. Regardless, the point is that many core characters in this franchise are designed to be adjacent to Sonic in some way. When your role is "Sidekick", "Girlfriend" or "Rival", then you as a character exist to have a particular relationship with another character. And then they also give other characters their own adjacent sidekicks or rivals. Tails is Sonic's sidekick, the "Kid Sonic". I derived this term from The Flash's sidekick who is called "Kid Flash". Cream was created to be Amy's own equivalent to Tails, so she is "Kid Amy". Marine exists similarly for Blaze. Blaze is Sonic's polar opposite, and Rouge is the same for Knuckles. Blaze is Nega-Sonic, Rouge is Nega-Knuckles. Blaze has many things in common with Knuckles, and Rouge has many things in common with Sonic. Because Knuckles is the Anti-Sonic. To be opposite to Sonic is to hold the qualities of Knuckles or Blaze. It's all relative to each other in a giant spider web of connections. It's all connected. Everything is connected. All is One. One is All.
>>503486916just be made of rubber 5head
>>503486362>Calling Racing Transformed slopPost discarded
OH MY GOD, SPARKY. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Amy
>>503487098>abandons the creative and very cool riders for mario kart rip off SLOP
>>503486786I hate him because he's a shitty character who should have vaulted after sa1
>>503486362>Shounen
>>503487384knuckles hate are redundant now anon, get with times
Rodents
>>503487384Who's a good character then
>>503487384That's literally happening now with the cuck rock.
>>503487480>RodentsSir, that's an elephant hitting a mole
>>503487192Amy is a precious treasure!
>>503487648was*
Niggers
>>503487798SONIC, YOU CAN’T SAY THAT WORD!
>>503487798Who's the niggest character?
>>503487891
>>503487031>The term "Anti Sonic" MEANS "Against Sonic"Wouldn't that also make him Anti-Everyone if everyone is a Sonic? Including himself?
>>503488009vector
>>503488009Whisper
>>503488074>Wouldn't that also make him Anti-Everyone if everyone is a Sonic? Including himself?No. It's not everyone is a Sonic, the terminology refers to how everyone relates to Sonic. Shadow and Silver relate to Sonic by being mirror images of him through different lens, Knuckles relates to Sonic by being the thing that stands against Sonic. Knuckles is against the idea of "Sonic". If someone contains that idea of "Sonic", then yes Knuckles is against them. Amy is Girl Sonic, so she inherently has Sonic-like traits just as Rouge does, so Knuckles would be against both of them fort hat same reason. Rouge is already the Nega-Knuckles which is why she has Sonic-like traits, because Knuckles is against the collection of ideas that create the concept of Sonic. Those same ideas can be found in Rouge.
It's my turn to be Sonic
>>503488281This is true, Evan said Whisper is canonically black.
>>503487891Aunt amy, what is a... a nigger?
>I see that you're more machine than biologics, Tenrec.>Do you know what that means? It means I can control, reprogram and create all manner of punishments for someone like you.>... No, no, I don't think I'll kill you.>Though dreadfully satisfying for all the trouble you've caused, that solution is far too... Short term.>Something far more rewarding would be your absolute servitude.>Hm? You'll never fight for Eggman willingly, you say?>Then... Oh, you know what sounds fun? What if I forced you to become a priestess? The Maiden to His church, that you'd have to establish.>Construction aside, I think I'd enjoy seeing you sing His praises to the masses.>I could even make some rituals for you to perform in his honor too, day in and day out.>You'll be praising The Doctor until the hours bleed away.>Then, once you've earned the right, I'll even let you return home.>But you'll be going there to spread His word and praise Him before the masses.>...>You don't like that idea?>I guess I can agree it's rather tasteless. After all, Father doesn't need someone like you to validate his existence.>But then...>He could use a Maid... Yes, you heard me.>Surely you've seen them, dressed in frills and heels. No doubt modified for the comfort of the onlooker rather than the wearer. Humans seem fond of the idea.>Could you picture it? Dusting and sweeping, serving the finest coffee and cakes, and all with a smile on your face.>I will expect to hear nothing but "Yes, sir." and "Please," from you. Regardless of what He may ask or demand.>Speak out of line, and I will not hesitate to erase you.>...>I know, they're all so horrible. But that's the point, this is your punishment.>Shh, you shouldn't cry so desperately. It's unbecoming. Not to mention, useless.>I don't wish to waste anymore time on this so you should pick now, before I pick for you.>Decide, how I will make you His for all time.
>>503488551>He's pretending to be Sonic again>WELL I'M NOT GOING TO BE AMY THIS TIME
You niggas hyping up Knuckles as the "mountain" who goes against Sonic's ideals, when all that coon does is sit on his rock all day getting less screentime than Amy.
>>503488579
>>503486916> shota femdom rapeNow you're speakin' my language
you're so boring, /sthg/
>>503489289Pay me. No?
This
>>503488676>singlehandedly caused Ian Flynn to have a nervous breakdown
>>503489289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfxWwswMQk
>>503489424Gets raped by thirsty human women on a constant basis
>>503489424or this?
>>503489490It's still NO NUT NOVEMBER you can't give up now you're so close!
>>503489490
>>503488676They left out she fucks platypuses.
>>503489490BOY refuses.
>>503489604This one’s much better.
SOMEWHERE IN TIIIIIIIME WE WELCOMED IN THE MIIIIDNIGHT LEAVEBUT IN THE DISTANCE WE CAN SEE SHINING CLEAR OUR DEMISE TO BEWE'RE NOT LISTENING TO OURSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELVES
>>503487582Anyone but Knuckles. He was effectively rendered completely redundant by Shadow, and Blaze already does guardianship better than him.
>>503485350She's Potential the Character, so I cannot wait to see how Sonic Team ruins her.
>>503489424>>503489604Sexnic
Shadow needs a big foxy hug.
Sonic coomer,24 Days straight without nutting, you guys wanna challenge me?
>>503488415>No. It's not everyone is a Sonic, the terminology refers to how everyone relates to Sonic.Then calling them all Sonic is bad terminology.
>>503489843>Own domain to protect (angel island and sol)>sacred jewel>back story of some sort>clashes with Sonic>befriends Sonic laterKnuckles is beta Blaze
>>503489424>>503489604>Alone on a Friday night? God, you're pathetic
>>503489843>Blaze already does guardianship better than himShe also genocided everyone who might think different than herself. We can't just kill Eggdude off, even though that would fix all problems.
Honeyfags usually don't like Honey. Honey canonically has a duel personality. Her clothes give her confidence. Without them, she is very introverted and unconfident. She also isn't an expert fashionista, she is a student and her clothes are seen as kind of tacky in-universe. Flynn fucked her up by not properly looking into her source material.
>>503490065I'm not calling them all Sonic.
>>503490136Knuckles has that "Why is this bitch so hot?" look.
>>503490224>flyinn ruins everythingThat's why i only use sthg canon.
>>503490387It's the first time he sees an Echidna.
>>503490471Just let him have Tikal already, bro. Rouge has nothing he wants.
>>503490696do you think this is incest
>>503490264Touch the fox and i break your hands.
>>503490696Rouge belongs to shadow, but bringing tikal back would feel forced. Give knuckles trip or ariem. It would solve all shipping debates
Fang WON
>>503490741If she never had kids and he wasn't her cousin or brother, no
>>503490741They’re 2,000 years apart, so it doesn’t even matter.
>>503490741People who say this is incest are so retarded.First of all, there's no proof that Tikal is even part of Knuckles' family tree.Second, even if she was, their genetics are thousands of years apart.
Tikal is for Shadow
>>503490224>Flynn fucked her up by not properly looking into her source material.Ian has done this with many characters
>>503490345Are you retarded?
>>503489604IDW Sonic wishes he was this cool.
>>503490696To be incest you have to fuck anything below your third cousin.
>>503490916>throws momTikal is dead. Maria is dead. Stop shipping him with dead girls
>>503491128No. I've already explained, the terminology centers around how they relate to Sonic. "This character is X-Sonic. The X version of Sonic." <- This is the general structure/format I am using. It's just a quick and easy way to get these ideas across as simple and clean as I can put it.
>>503490980He just got a deeper connection with his aunt who raised and loved him like a son since he was a little pup.
>>503490741If it is incest, it's too far removed to actually matter.
>>503491283>.......
>>503491380Do you need to cum?
>>503491283Everyone dies eventually
>>503490224>Flynn didn't rip off someone else's workThis is a bad thing now?
>>503491702Oh, it's terrible.
>>503483398Babylon Rogues are arab
This is the kind of music Sonic listens tohttps://youtu.be/So_pKHgP_1k?si=sNxi884D7EHSn-HD
>>503491539
>>503491702Are you retarded?
>>503491901Are you?
>>503491164Anti-Shadriafags don't cry at funerals because they automatically stop feeling anything when someone dies
>>503488962Sparky just hasn't been the same since they killed knuxouge despite him insisting that is was canon
>>503490741Only if Knuckles is somehow descended from Pachacamac(which he's probably not) and even then it would be so incredibly distant from millennia of Generations that it wouldn't matter. They'd be ten times more distant than Knuckles and Julie.
>Ian is such a good writer>No I don't read Drogune and no one I know does it either but Ian is definitely a good writer I promise
>>503491702He is writing a character. A character created by someone else. He should be writing that character in accordance to the original vision. That isn't "ripping off someone else's work", that is literally using that other person's work itself as that is what it means to be writing for a property you do not own.
Eggman keeps a picture of her framed in his workshop.
>>503440303I could see Blaze meditating in bathhouses to relax
RED ALARMDURING LAST NIGHTS LIVESTREAM OF SXSG, CHRIS CHAN ANNOUNCES HE’S HAVING A CHILD[\spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/live/ppb9S2y6t84?si=XZy8yjJUwDlbzJEo@ 39:57
>>503492424not gonna start a relationship with a dead person no.
>>503492545>He should be writing that character in accordance to the original vision.The original vision was a bonus character in a fighting game. There is nothing saying that animal Honey is the exact same character as human Honey. That's not following a vision, that's being lazy and just doing the same thing.
>>503491851That's right anon it doesn't matter who you ship him with it will end the same way, with him putting flowers on their tombstone and missing the time they had together
>>503491702Writing characters in character isn't ripping people off you dipshit
>>503492424You people literally falseflag as shadougebros to give us a bad name
>>503492853Sonic Honey had no character.
>>503492627Great.More nightmare fuel for my dream, thanks God.
>>503491702>fucks up character>"This is a good thing."
>>503492627Great thanks to Black Doom for sponsoring this child
>>503493029Uwuver is more popular than regular Silver ever was.
>>503484017She looks like she fucks bird women.
>>503492627Sonic the hedgehog?
>>503492957Honey the Cat is literally just Honey from Fighting Vipers as a Sonic OC. There is absolutely no reason to believe or even want Honey to be a different character altogether from Honey, because HONEY IS HONEY. Stuff like this is what gives us Movie Sonic and stuff when SONIC should just be SONIC, meaning the same SONIC that was originally conceived. If a Sonic movie is being produced, then the expectation should be "wow, I get to see Sonic in a movie!", not "yeah, let's create an entirely different character altogether but still give him Sonic's name and branding even though this has nothing to with the Sonic all the fans know and love".
>>503493249no sonichu
>>503493169Yep, nobody liked silver before, now he got trannies.
>>503493193
>>503493169No one even knows what regular Silver even is
>>503493304Then I fail to see what some guy has to do with Sonic.>"newfag."Dude, I know about Sonichu, I don't care about the creator.
>>503493289>Honey the Cat is literally just Honey from Fighting Vipers no she isn’t.
>>503493508Shut the fuck up lesbian.
>>503493193Sonic The Comic: Online is cringe fanfiction.
>>503493289>Honey the Cat is literally just Honey from Fighting VipersThat's your headcanon. It's no where established that is the case. All they share is some design choices and general occupation, nothing more. This is in no way the same situation with Movie Sonic where Sonic is already an established character in the franchise. Cat Honey's character was never established anywhere in the franchise until Archie.
>>503493508
>>503493493>I know about Sonichu, I don't care about the creator.Sonichu is just one part of Chris's infamy. It's a packaged deal with his story.
>>503493289>what is a different interpretation?
Mills Basset
WHITEBOARDhttps://magma.com/d/VOcBBeNuP4https://magma.com/d/VOcBBeNuP4https://magma.com/d/VOcBBeNuP4
>>503493702Sonichu is barely on topic, his creator's anitcs are not.Now, how would you make Sonic x Pokemon crossover genuienly good?>"Smash Brothers."
>>503493698uu…uuu…
Who should I draw naked /sthg/?
>>503493909the bride of rich nights.
>>503493909Tails
>>503493169Yeah because it's todays content nitwit.
>>503485350Yes.
>>503493909Jewel
>>503485350yes! x2
>>503494047Nah, Silver wasn't popular when he was in current content until Uwuver was cemented.
>>503493694>>503493568This cat character is just a Sonic OC design of the Fighting Vipers character. There is absolutely no reason to believe its an entirely separate entity. >>503493795>>what is a different interpretation?Pointless, is what it is. All these different "interpretations" dilute the integrity of the original concept to the point that no one would even know or remember what it even was anymore. If I watched a show as a kid that was an adaptation of a long-running franchise but the characters are all very different and far removed from the original source, and so then I see the original version of that franchise later and its basically unrecognizable to me, what exactly was I watch before? Who are the characters I thought I loved, in this hypothetical example? If it's all the same character, why are they so different? If they're fundamentally different and should be treated as such, who do they share the exact same name and certain things as if its meant to be considered the same? It's all pointless nonsense. If a franchise is adapted to a different medium, that adaptation should still retain the same underlying conceptual core as the original version, otherwise why does the adaptation even exist? At a certain point, there's no point in telling a different story if this is a new adaptation meant to bring in new audiences that didn't even know the original work.
>>503494371>There is absolutely no reason to believe its an entirely separate entity.one is a human the other is a cat
>>503493806Not only that, it's the worst thing made even worse by stronger mandates and the focus on being canon filler. All of it on the hands of sega having a PTSD thanks to penders.Tge entire shit cake locked under a progressive zeitgeist.You literally can't do shit except pulling out gay and childish content.
>>503494489With the same name and outfit and stuff. It's the same character drawn in a different style, adapted to a different world.
>>503493806I'm glad someone said it.
>>503494517Her only redeeming quality is that her taste in hetero ships is pretty solid (sonamy and shadouge)
>>503494228Archie Silver was popularGame Silver was never popular because he hails from obscure or infamously bad media with localizations that misrepresent him and have terrible voice acting on top of the actual meat of his character being unclear.
>>503494371>This cat character is just a Sonic OC design of the Fighting Vipers character. There is absolutely no reason to believe its an entirely separate entity.That is entirely the reason why it's a separate entity. It's an entirely different universe, setting, and premise. There's no reason to think she's a carbon copy.
Inshallah
>>503493978Consider it done
>>503494735Do you know what an expy is
>>503494592in a completely different world far removed from the source material her character is based on she isn’t Honey from Fighting Vipers she’s Honey the Cat.
>>503494735>That is entirely the reason why it's a separate entity.No. That's stupid. It makes no sense. It doesn't matter if its a different universe, "Honey" is still "Honey". It's not creating a new character, the character already exists, she's just being adapted to a different world. Regardless of whether she's a version of Honey from Sonic's world or the human Honey isekia transformed into Sonic's World as a cat, it should still be "Honey". Reinventing an entirely new personality and background just because you "can" is stupid and pointless when the character should ultimately just be the same character.
So, is Ian not allowed to talk about Fang?
>>503494881>20 year old dating a 16 year old
>>503494998He definitely doesn't
>>503494881>Vectorwhat does she see in Vector that made her prepare 2 very different ships for him?
>>503495084>It doesn't matter if its a different universeIf you're lazy and just want to be a rip-off, then I guess so.
>>503494716>Archie Silver was popularHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>503494881>Vector x Espio>When Espio it's not only a minor, but also Vector's protege/son/babybroSomeone post this on Xitter and let's watch the ensuing shitshow together
>>503495084>It doesn't matter if its a different universeno THATS stupid
>>503495251Big green cock
>>503495093Forgot my image
>>503494881Thank god sega doesn't make her go free.
>>503494716Archie Silver was never popular because he hails from obscure or infamously bad media with localizations that misrepresent him and have terrible dialogue on top of the actual meat of his character being unclear.
>>503495093Okay, is he not allowed to talk about Fang, or does he simply have no interest in talking about Fang?
Sex with Sonic's dad
>>503495254>If you're lazy and just want to be a rip-off, then I guess so.No. What's lazy is trying to create an entirely new character but still calling it the exact same name as the original. The same character should be the same character. A different character should be a different character. If it has the same name, it should have the same general design and personality and everything else. If it has a different personality and design and everything, it should have a different name. It is not that hard. Either write the character, or make a new one. DON'T WRITE A NEW CHARACTER WHILE CALLING IT THE SAME NAME.
>>503495315>>When Espio it's not only a minorWhen did that stop people?Also 16 is like 17, and 17 is near 18, so it's legal.>protege/son/babybroWhen was it the case? Yeah, Vector runs the agency, but Espio's voice and manners would imply he's pretty mature
>>503495679>DON'T WRITE A NEW CHARACTER WHILE CALLING IT THE SAME NAME.The autism is too powerful in this one.
>>503495093>>503495370>>503495549They probably mandated him not to because Ian has a problem with having characters read out their personalities and dynamics with each other, and they didn't trust him to handle how Fang and Trip feel about each other for whatever reason.
>>503495907>having characters read out their personalities and dynamics with each otherBojack Horsemanism
>>503495679>it should have the same general design and personality and everything elseNot possible if they come from a different background in a different continuity.See movie Sonic
>>503495251He’s the only boring 20 year old character so sonictwitterfags won’t cancel her for it
Who is the leader of Team Dark?
>>503495679Honey the Cat was never written to be the same as human Honey. It is not going off the original here because there was no original Honey the Cat. The two are entirely different characters. Just doing the exact same thing is lazy when it was never part of the original's character, that being Honey from Sonic Fighters.>DON'T WRITE A NEW CHARACTER WHILE CALLING IT THE SAME NAME.Good thing we're not then since her name is Honey the Cat.
>>503495093fang is present in the comic why wouldn’t he be
>>503496029Alright, what was stopping them from just writing Sonic in-character in the movies other than a hollow desire for a relatable child protagonist?
>>503489604He still don't act like Sonic even though they market him as such.
>>503496113None, Team Dark is an out-of-universe brand.
>>503496113Shadow
>>503495501Archie was legitimately the only reason anyone liked the character for a long time. People that hate every other version of Silver like Archie Silver.
>>503494881>>503495787>has an endless audience waiting for main ships like sonamy to get canonize>"why yeah let's do vector/espio gay nigger bullshit"WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THESE LESBIANIGGERS WHO THE FUCK HIRED THEM? Who the fuck put them in charge of the canon and why is ian so fucking gay to not do anything...
>>503493909Amy
>>503496275His background. He didn't grow up to be the wind man. instead he became someone's giant pet hedgehog. He still retains that cockiness though.
>>503495907Anon she considers herself BULLIED into helping the BAD GUYS and that it was pretty PATHETIC. That's some loaded language that should tell you everything you need to know.
>>503495907The hoops you guys jump through...
>yet more yelling about shippingYou're all allegedly grown men, and here you are getting into fights and forcing drama over shipping.
>>503496361>death battleNoone even read archie. Its fanbase was always a very vocal minority, their readership was never even hitting a million and only a fraction of what IDW one got. Silver was popular for 06
>>503493909
>>503494904based she’s underrated
>DON'T WRITE A NEW CHARACTER WHILE CALLING IT THE SAME NAMEIizuka can't write Shadow for shit and flat out does not understand what made Shadow so special as a character. Shadow in his game is among the most disliked Shadow personalities, and not for the guns, no, because he's boring.Look at Shadow in Rivals, written by Iizuka. What Shadowfag brings up the Rivals series? None of them, unless it's to post that scene where Metal rips a hole in himself. And that's more about Metal than it is Shadow, honestly.When Maekawa wrote Shadow, he was far less flat. Maekawa understood Shadow was pure of mind, was subtle, used 僕 (boku) like a schoolboy. Because under Shadow's serious demeanor, that's what he is. A boy who was forced to grow up too fast -- no, never really given a chance to "grow up" to begin with. And he's also haughty, and pompous, and self important, but he beats himself up inside for things he can't control.I think it becomes clearer if you view Shadow less as a le serious edgy adult character and more as the teenager he is. A teenager lacking proper life experience. And this isn't to say Shadow is some little baby uwu boy, because he's not, he's intelligent, sharp-witted, ruthless, and usually knows what he's doing."I was right to let Shadow cry there at that time. I'm proud of you, me from 20 years ago." - Shiro Maekawa
NORMAL WORDS BUT A DROGUNE GUY
>>503496598There are no men on /sthg/ and only retards like you think anyone is claiming anything else
>>503496361Duh, look how much content he has, hell even in that table you posted they barely know jack shit about him.
Has anyone ever actually read Drogune
No but seriously fuck the canon, they could hire a goddamn homeless spic in cali and brand his brain farts as canonic to the series, at this point it's less valuable than a cold turd left on the street.
>>503491702She is literally a furry version of the original Honey. Her acting different completely misses the point.
>>503496361>People that hate Silver like [Character that isn't Silver]I would have never guessed.
>>503494228Yeah because it's todays content nitwit, learn to read, Silver didn't have shit back then. uwuver does, and that's why he's known more, shocking right?
>>503496665Maekawa literally created him, of course he knows Shadow
>>503496665Everyone knows fans get characters better than anyone in Sonic Team currently.
>>503496884>diapershiter it's obsessed with turds
uuuu Tangle i’m sad and gay
>>503496741You're still ostensibly adults though. Maybe try acting like it for once in your worthless lives.
>>503496945no she literally isn’t.
>>503496982And fuck you ragebaiter.
>>503496945>She is literally a furry version of the original Honey.>literallyYou keep using that word and it's never true. That's your headcanon, not what was established.
>>503494881I hate leftoids.
>>503493169Silver is not popular no matter the iteration. Only shippers care about this faggot. He'll never be like Sonic and Shadow or even Knuckles.
Lanolin and Whisper should beat up Silver for being a sexist misogynist
>>503496952>Silver didn't have shit back then>video games are nothingOkay anon
>>503497140>ragebaiter.That's ironic and you know it is.
>>503496606>Silver was popular for 06Everyone hated him for 06. Nobody has ever liked or even known his actual character and only like parodies of him. The English dub of 06 portrays him as a nervous insecure co-dependent child with a whiny voice and the Japanese versions of Sonic games are even more obscure than Archie. The only time Silver's character has been accurately represented in English Sonic games are the obscure Rivals and Colors DS handhelds.
>>503497228Wait for the movies and remake.
>>503497148>Ianfags have no idea how homages work now.
>>503497095and fat too
>UUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>503497401Proud beautiful lesbian queens are not “boring”, chud, independent women who are more than just trophies for the males just intimidate you
>>503493394Ends justifies the means. Will protect his cause using his wrath.
>>503495370Fang is so insignificant to Trip that he isn’t even worth remembering.
>>503497404do you? Goku is a homage to Sun Wukong he isn’t literally him.
>>503496361Nobody talks about Archie Silver except Silverfags who try to use it as cope to say "S-See! Silver was cool somewhere!" Don't fucking kid yourself.
>>503497404>dumbass thinks a homage means just straight up copying something elseWay to expose yourself.
>>503497318>Nobody has ever liked or even known his actual characterHow can you hate something if you don't actually know anything about it? It sounds to me like people hate Silver because of SegaSammy rushed 06, and SoA bastardized his character to the point where people only see their version instead who he actually is, and hate him because of that.
lol stop arguing with him
>>503497401Maybe she'll leave the US once he's inaugurated.
...
>>503497552More than intimidated i feel cock and balls tortured.
>>503497631Goku doesn't look like Son Wukong.>>503497652It's just Honey as a cat because she was designed with Sonic's setting in mind.Why are you guys suddenly drooling retards on this simple subject?
>>503497647Not even that, it's just powerfags that brag about him fighting the big guy really hard
>>503497465
Reminder Honey wears a wig.
>>503497748She wants to be split roasted.
>>503497874>Goku doesn't look like Son Wukongholyshit you really don’t know what a homage is
Once upon a time all the Lesbian OCs would be romantically paired up with a male from the game cast each and their every scene would be telling the reader how horny and in love they are with the man. Or more likely the writer would self-insert as Sonic or Knuckles and they’d all be a harem around only them.
>>503497250His games are nothing because he's "mysterious" and Sega refuses to explain his character to the point that the comics writers and artists literally don't even know what they're working with.
>>503497874>Why are you guys suddenly drooling retards on this simple subject?Archiefags.
>>503497874>Why are you guys suddenly drooling retards on this simple subject?It's not them being retards, it's you being an overly conservative autist for a minor character anyone barely knows outside of comicfags.
>A Shadamy post>First thing mentioned is SonicI can't make this shit up.
>>503497972It's a stripe.
>>503497972She wears way more than just a wig
Flynnfags tried to claim Honey from Fighting Vipers didn't have a personality for Ian to give Sonic!Honey, but then a profile was shown and their defense changed to "Well, it doesn't matter! Ian wrote her better!" and "Honey the Cat doesn't have to have the same personalty as Honey the Human anyway!"They pulled the same shit with Bean and Bark by claiming they never had established personalities and then flipped the script when they were proven wrong. Bunch of dishonest faggots with this weird parasocial relationship with that fat retard they give money to.
>>503498168Shadow and Amy have never interacted since '05.
>>503498380flynn fans are just barafags
>>503498168>Shadamy is an amyfag cope ship for being rejected by CHADnic
>banned from /v/ again
>>503498380>Ian wrote her better!I look like this and say this. fpbp /thread + ratio
>>503498195>drawfags exiledwhat's this?
>>503498132>Lack of proper knowledge means ignorance and misrepresentation is okay.Don't write a character if you don't know or care about their original source, retard. Especially since some rando here can easily find it online.
>>503497874Just because I don't subscribe to your autism, doesn't mean it's my fault.
>>503498486TMoSTH
>>503498683>Just because I'm a retard doesn't mean I'm a retard.Kek.
>>503498760FUCKING BTFO
>>503498760True, Shadow and Amy have not interacted since '05.
Nobody played Fighting Vipers, and nobody cares. Shut the fuck up.
>character has the same name as Honey>made by the same creators as Honey>is only in Fighters because they put Sonic characters in Vipers to see if they’d play then did the inverse by putting a Vipers character in Sonic to see if the game crashes or not>is a “cat” because Honey in Vipers has a cat theme and several cat-named moves>does the same moves as Honey>has the same clothes as Honey>has the same description and origin as HoneyBut she’s totally meant to be a different character at her core
>>503498631Proper knowledge about what? Every trivia and bio bullshit only lifeless losers know about and pretend to be adapted for something inspired?
>>503498380>sports is a personalityThis is why I will never agree with you guys.
Imagine defending Ian Flynn's revisionist trash. Fighting Vipers Honey is Sonic Honey.
>>503498526Me too, anon.
>>503498817Cope
Is Honeyschizo dramafag or what
>>503497691This. Though his actual character is still really obscure and the comics getting him backwards doesn't help.
>>503498937Okay, so that means Honey the Cat should never appear in Sonic again since we don't care about Fighting Vipers.
UUUU TANGLE IM SAAAAAAAAD
>>503498631The original source was Sonic the Fighters
>>503498937I did. I'm not a part of the argument though because it's very autistic.
>>503499092what is the male hedgehogs retcon?
>>503498760Canonically. Then they're a non-factor to one another in Gens, and now his movie. If you told me only Twitter shitposts fueled a ship I'd say no shit.
>>503499113SHUT THE FUCK UP DUMB DOG
SILVERWILLNEVERBECOOL
>>503499102Sure
>>503498941>she’s totally meant to be a different character at her corenow you’re getting it.
>>503499254Everything is canon
Where is Fang...
>>503499280fucking finally we got rid of that feline bitch
>>503499069Either that or an archiefag
>>503498941So, Honey is the first human that can morph into a blobian?
>>503499204>what did you do this time anon?Entered Sonic Adventure thread that wasn't getting any replies and complaining about Indians.
>>503499408Dragon Trip killed him.
>>503498941Different universe different character
>>503498941True. The only people who think otherwise hate real Honey because it fucks up their pedophile fantasies.
>>503499102No, Honey the Cat is cute and fun. Nobody gives a damn about her connection to an old obscure fighting game outside of it being a random trivia note.
>Flynn cocksuckers get BTFO by simple facts and are now going "YOU'RE AUTISTIC FOR KNOWING THAT INFORMATION ANYWAY AND NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT FIGHTING VIPERS SO SHUT UP!" to flee from the discussion.
*inhale*WAAAAAAAHHHHH UUUUUUUUUUU *inhale* WEEEEEEEEEEHHHHH UUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>503499243Titties
>>503497950>Can't beat him>Cheats with an infinite energy McGuffinFraudow
>>503499632People who defend Flynnslop need to be bullied out of the general
>>503499672Perky pink titties
>>503498941Ian's paypigs will look at this and think yeah they're completely different characters.
>>503499250That only male hedgehogs can have Super Forms.That actually started in Sonic Heroes but people will blame Silver for anything bad in his vicinity.
Las gata estuprador.
>>503499632>being mad at someone for something that does not matterWhat the fuck if your life, anon? Oh right, I'm looking at it.
>>503499573The idea of her being the shy creator of lesser known fashion brand who only dons her confident fighting mascot persona to promote her designs is way cooler than the character Ian tried to replace her with.
I got banned from Reddit's Sonic Discord server for being too perverted.
>>503499795>anyone who disagrees is [BOOGEYMAN]krack is that you?
>>503498937I played it and I liked itPepsiman is my main
>>503499827Nice counter argument.
>>503499849You only think that because it's contrary to what Flynn did. If Ian started writing her exactly the way /sthg/ does, you would instantly start hating that portrayal.
>>503499102I thought she couldn't today, anyway.
I want Ian cancelled purely because I grow fatigued over having to debate his faggots over the most trivial topics they are unable to grasp. They are illiterate in some many ways, yet speak so cocksure just like their hack writer. I didn't have to deal with this shit with Pontaff; everyone agreed they were trash.
>>503500092>You only think that because it's contrary to what Flynn did.Literally. L i t e r a l l y.A lot of the Ian seethe stems from backwards thinking. First we conclude Ian is bad, then we look for reasons why that is so. No matter how pedantic it may be.
>>503500014Wasn't arguing, just pointing out the fact you spend all day on 4chan getting mad over nothing.
>>503499849Context for both?
>>503500092You are wrong, and nothing I say will change your mind because you've already decided what I believe.
You should complain to him again for $15 instead of textwalling here tbdesu
>>503499849Based.It's more interesting than LE SMUG. We have plenty of confident female characters already. Where's the shy introvert larping as confident extrovert? >>503500092>>503500269If Ian Flynn wrote the characters the way their creator intended them to be written, people wouldn't hate him. Nice try though.
https://youtu.be/S3zSfUc-PaE?t=13
>>503500092People here would like Ian if he actually wrote the characters properly, but he refuses to, because he thinks he knows better than all the people who created them.
>>503498380They did the same thing with Silver. They defended the way Ian wrote him in IDW as character development for years then it came out that Ian thinks Silver has never been rude the defense shifted to "Silver's always been polite because he helps Amy and considers people's feelings".
>>503500225Become a 12 year old girl and seduce him. Then after he’s fucked all your holes you can get him in real trouble.
Crazy how Ian has enough power to write for the actual sonic games
Guys, but what about Dark Beginnings
>>503499408Breeding Jest the Rabbit
>>503500481>Become a 12 year old girlh-hot
where are these Ianfags nobody here likes the guy?
>>503500406A tsundere basically?
When was Knux x Rouge ever mentioned or suggested to be sibling coded?
>>503498380And now Penders (and Pontaff) have W's over him as a result. Shouldn't have fucked with Generations, ian.
>>503500369Well, considering you appear to structure your very thoughts around finding a way to be mad at Flynn, you're gonna have a hard time convincing anyone that you're not a contrarian.
>>503500454Well, let's be fair...
>>503500639on twitter, back where you came
>>503500373>Giving Ian moneyI wouldn't give that fatass money even if he discovered the cure for Cancer and AIDS.
>Sonic fans have autism and some will go out of their way to double check to see if a character is written properlyWhat is Sega's and Sonic Team's excuse for not only not correcting third party writers when they have and dictate the source material, but also fucking up their own characters?
uuuu Tangle help me i’m so fucking gay uuuuuu
The creator of the character's view > Ian Flynn's view.The fact that anyone disagrees with this is astounding.
AAAIIIIIIEEEE DISAGGREEEING WITH MEE! IIIAAANFAGG
>>503500563... WHO?
>>503500639I'm all for people calling out on anti-sex/hetero agenda that plagued vidya and Hollywood that hopefully he coming into power ends this era.
>>503500648This just make the fanbase look retarded when Penders makes a point that holds water.
>>503500750But you do this already, "anon"
>>503500406>the way their creator intended them to be writtenDoes anyone at Sega actually care about Fighting Vipers? >>503500454No, pretty sure you'd still find a way to be mad at him even if he had all the original creators as consultants to make sure he got the characters perfectly in line with the supposed original intent.
>>503499254She gets a brief mention but it stops there. because they haven't interacted much. and I think they should now that Shadow is finally off of the bench and back to action
Alright Anons, finally finished this Lanolin, here you go.https://files.catbox.moe/t3ojqm.png>>503413241Have a Big Blue Hedgecock variant just for you!https://files.catbox.moe/j8n66u.png
>>503500916oh shit new boogieman
>>503500092I only turned on him because he can't write any of the hedgehog characters right
>>503500958AM2 care enough about it to make sure Sonic Team don't fuck with Honey, Bean, and Bark. On that note, Virtua Fighter is coming back. Not a stretch for them to bring back Fighting Vipers as well.
>>503501053Nobody gives a shit about your "art". Kill yourself.
>>503500958No one at Sega cares about these characters. Only Anon on /sthg/ does.
>>503500958Do you think people dislike Ian for no reason? Lol. Get real, retard. If Ian was a good writer and wrote the characters properly I would be glazing him every thread.
>>503501121That’s probably why Ian was forced to separate Bean and Bark from Fang.
>>503500767Sega has more power than Sonic team, and if they are told to change everything to pander they can't say no, just like how they tried to retcon all other humans except Eggman because people complained too loudly.
>>503501053You shouldn't be drawing porn out of all things, sorry but IA just looks better.
>>503501053thanks now I need sheep milk
>>503500903It's not a good point. The people that called Ian faithful to the games were a fraction of archiefags (that on its own being only a fraction of the community), the people hating on Ian now are gamefags.
>>503501053Based but imagine the back pain
>>503501121>AM2 care enough about it to make sure Sonic Team don't fuck with Honey, Bean, and Bark.And yet they can't be bothered to just write the characters themselves. Interesting. >Virtua Fighter is coming backNot without rollback it ain't. You might as well throw that in the garbage right now.
>>503496678God, why does he have an avatar with the most punchable face imaginable? His actual face is nowhere near as punchable.
>>503501053cool
>>503501000That's fine and all calling back to their first and one of the only interactions.
>>503501053Not my kind of thing, but I've never liked sonic characters' dicks being covered completely in fur
>>503501212I honestly never liked how Ian glued Bean and Bark to Fang so such an extend that they were considered a packaged deal like the Chaotix. Fang spent most of his appearances in this franchise working solo and only working with others because they pay him or he gets something out of it.
>>503501186>Do you think people dislike Ian for no reason?People in this fanbase will hate things simply because it's not what they grew up with
>>503501186>Do you think people dislike Ian for no reason?
“UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…”
You paypigs do know Ian didn't create these characters or own them, right? Why do you act like he's entitled to them? He's not even an employee at Sega either.
>>503501345>And yet they can't be bothered to just write the characters themselves. Interesting.You overestimate how much Sega in general cares about IDW. If what >>503501212 is saying is true, AM2 just wanted Bean and Bark away from Fang the "cucked by the Knux" Hunter. And they got it.
>>503501581I don't like when things I enjoy are needlessly changed into something I don't enjoy.
>>503501053off model coomer garbage
>>503501675WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING TO
>>503501000Nice zeroes
>>503501731based trans classic fan speedrunner
>>503501630>once you hate hitler, everything he does is bad>boohoo
>>503501053No Shadow variant?
>>503501581>>503501630After all the reasons and even footage displaying why Ian gets hate you faggots have turned to screaming that Ian's hate just came out of nowhere. You retards are unbelievable.
Ian sucks
>>503501691>cucked by the Knux?
uuuu Tangle i’m gay
>>503501448This. Either give them red rockets, human cocks in their skin tone or a combination thereof like thishttps://files.catbox.moe/a7t97j.jpg
>>503501630>You hate this guy for eating crackers!?>I hate him because he chews with his mouth open.>I knew it! You're just looking for reasons to hate him!Great.
>>503501765Just let him sperg out until he's tired
>>503501931>fang has to surprise attack to get the advantage
Reminder Ian was asked once "If you could rewrite Shadow in the earlier IDW issues, what would you change?"And Ian said"Not much"
>>503502084When will Ian cultists stop paying Ian to say "I don't know" to their retarded questions?
>>503500639It's just knuxougefaggots trying to pretend their ship is persecuted
>>503502140I realized that Modern Mighty would have black eyelids and that's really weird to me.
Turbo.
uuuu Tangle the misogyny in this thread is giving me trauma
>>503501691Well if Sega doesn't care, why the hell do YOU care so much that you dedicate your lives to complaining about it? >>503501862Shut up, Godwin. >>503501906Delusional screeching from whiny forum users is not a valid reason. You have done absolutely nothing to effectively make your arguments. All you have accomplished is making yourself look like an angry child.
>>503502140Mighty has Velcro shoes?
>>503501765Flynnfags aka "people" who literally pay Ian to tell them his headcanon. They're in this thread right now.
This general goes "I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG" whenever they think about Ian, it's beyond parody
>>503500639knuckles x rouge is more "sibling-coded" than shadouge because knuckles and rouge fight and bicker like siblings. Plus, they both have similar abilities, interests etc.
>>503502140>both are trying to ambush each other>Fang tracked him first>uses his vehicle to distract Knuckles and land a blow>"ummm don't use surprise attacks"Bro, even Knuckles surprise attacked Fang when he got distracted by ghosts. And then he outsmarted Knuckles again by tanking hits and freeing his henchmen.
>50% off alreadyLaugh at the idiots who bought the game day one.Hell, laugh at the people who bought the game at all.
>>503502382
>>503501765Niggas in these thread love to give indirect responses like that
All that screechinand for what?nothing would change. most likely
>>503502352We're not the ones switching gears and just outright pretending that people just hate Ian for no reason even though people have given lists for why that man's a hack.
>>503501767Beautiful, precious treasure!
>>503502497Are shops still selling anything for PS3/X360?
>>503502342Whisper you're literally a Men's Rights Activist.
Chaining Shadow up and cutting all of his sharp quills off! Sedating Shadow and pulling out his sharp canine teeth!Selling Shadow as a sex slave for cash!
>>503502502Rouge, my beloved.
If Ian is Ian, who's the anti-Ian, who's the nega-Ian and who's the girl Ian?
>>503502307Is the helmet part of his design?
Lived thru hell, changed the universe, controls the laws of physics, violent, kills demons daily, lifts mountains and was the closest in killing the protagonist:
>NOOOOOO! STOP INSULTING MY FAVORITE HACK WRITERDidn't happen with everyone else who wrote for this franchise. Why should Ian get special treatment?
>>503502497>40% off>switch>black fridayat least try
>>503502708>girl IanEvan
>>503502352Cause I know its possible to get quality tie-in products. Also>REEE WHY DO YOU CARE! JUST CONSUME SLOP! STOP COMPLAINING! ONLY I'M ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINING SO STOP IT!Every time.
>>503501890Sure, why not, have a quick edit! https://files.catbox.moe/ett0dj.png
>>503502739>Lived thru hell, changed the universe, controls the laws of physics, violent, kills demons daily, lifts mountains and was the closest in killing the protagonistNot anymore, he didnt do that
>>503502307Making one of the three iconic Fleetway poses.
>>503502665Whisper thinks the MRA deserve execution for being homophobic
>>503502848That looks like shit, which is fitting
>>503502572You DO hate him for no reason. At least for any tangible reason. And quite frankly, I'm sick of hearing about it, so I don't really care if you have a good reason for hating him. You are far more annoying than anything he'd ever done.
>>503502714No, he's just wearing because they're racing in space.If I'm not mistake sonic wears a helmet in this arc too.
>>503503007seethe harder
>>503502760All the console versions are on sale. Steam sale hasn't started yet.
>>503502779Evan actually listens to people and tries to improve though
>>503503041Go the fuck back to bitchsky you trannylover
I can’t believe Ian has paycows he literally ran over my dogs puppies
>>503503041You sound like someone who hates characters based on whether or not their fans are annoying, instead of caring about the actual characters.
>>503502858ew, I feel bad for anyone that likes or faps to this shit.
>>503503127>and tries to improve thoughWhen???Her current arc has all the exact same shit people were telling her to stop in her first Belle arc. She even forced Belle into it again for no reason at all
>>503502876With the power of SoA we turned him gay cause we know it's better...what? what do you mean "that's just lame" you homophobe?
>>503503259If #76’s B cover is any indication, Belle is leaving
>>503503121You realize your ship is never happening right? It only got "teased" in the takeover, which is non canon, because they know fans eat this slop up.
Shadria...
>>503502739https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgK4J-szQC8
>>503503220That is only the case in one circumstance, and that is Silver. Granted, I already hated Silver, but good fucking lord his fans are kind of the actual goddamn worst.
>>503503259>same shit people were telling her to stopWhat have they been telling her exactly?>BelleWriters always put in their OCs. That's not a Sonic thing but a general thing that happens.
>>503500880his chubby bunny
And I try, oh, my God, do I tryI try all the timeIn this institutionAnd I pray, oh, my God, do I prayI pray every single dayFor a revolutionAnd so I cry sometimesWhen I'm lying in bedJust to get it all outWhat's in my headAnd I, I am feelingA little peculiarAnd so I wake in the morningAnd I step outsideAnd I take deep breathAnd I get real highAnd I scream from the top of my lungsWhat's going on?
>>503502858Cool beans
>>503503421everyfuckingbodys here this thread is AIDS
>>503503352They know if they get rid of this containment general we’ll spill out all over 4chan.
>>503503352Imagine being so new you don't remember the constant 2018 Gaydow spam and think Crashdow (which came after) was what destroyed this place.
>>503503518I hate fucking clown designs.
>>503503041>You DO hate him for no reason.Kek. Threads upon threads stating reasons why they think Ian is a shit writer and this is the conclusion you come to.
>>503503645then stop.
>>503503259She can admit that she's wrong and doesn't deflect blame to Sega for anything bad like Ian.
My question is if Rouge and Omega are already debatable in being a factor to Shadow when Maria and Gerald then how do you fit Amy into this circle? Like a future game is just going to suddenly give them a new interaction?
>>503503612anon 2018 was 9 years ago
>>503503645Anon hates his reflection
Sex with Belle
>>503503645Why?Does it feel funny?
>>503503414aaah. ok. guess I'll continue enjoying my slop
Evan and Ian are posting itt.
>>503503612i literally came here two months ago
>>503503828YES
>>503503661Again, all you do is screech like a pissy child, never making any actual points. And Iwill reiterate that I(and many others) no longer care why you hate him, you have eroded all possible good will towards your position by being spammy shitposters who literally never shut up.
>>503503919i literally came
>>503503919If Ohshima likes it, I do too. It's better than the slop fujos and bots like.
>>503503453To make it action-focused again and stop it being a boring crybaby feefee-fest. Which she again failed and made the latest arc about Lanolin crying again and the gay owl doing a gay podcast about how problematic Clutch is with zero fightingTo stop flooding it with her lesbian breakfast club OCs and make it about the game cast again. Instead Sonic and Tails literally only got to say 1 line in each while the rest of the entire issue was dedicated to her writer’s room self-inserts and boring nobody lgbt background charactersTo stop making Surge a crybaby woobie and make her a badass threat again. Which she again refused to do and had Clutch tell her off until she cried then had Sonic beat her up easily again without a single hit in on her side.Which criticism on earth has she “improved” on, you consoomer piggy? She’s been told all these complaints, mentioned seeing all these complaints, and only got worse because she refuses to ever improve or change her self-absorbed masturbatory writing
>>503503828
>>503504014Nta but>You are not presenting any arguments>That's why I will ignore said argumentsC'mon nowBait used to be better
>>503503751>>503503824>>503503898Stop. Making. Fun. Of. Me.
>>503504014Everyone who genuinely cares about their favorite character hates Ian. Cope.
Cute girls
>>503503813... You wanna try that again when you learn how English actually works?
We need Maekawa back. Both the east and west have been ruining the writing for too long
So you hate Ian. Who would you replace him with as a western writer?
>>503504121…..anon do you see who you’re replying to?
>>503504014>all you do is screech like a pissy child, never making any actual points.Like what you do when someone criticizes Ian or merely disagrees with his character portrayals? How hypocritical.
>>503504112>If Ohshima likes it, I do too. It's better than the slop fujos and bots like.
>>503504289Nobody.Vault everything.
>>503504204I dislike Ian but I loathe Sega for not caring
>>503504160Your "arguments" only ever look like "REEEEEEEE, WHY IS IAN LITERALLY RAPING THE ORIGINAL CREATORS??? STOP RAPING THEM!!! STOP RAPINGING THEEEEEEEEEEEM!!!" to me. >>503504204>"If you're not with us, you're against us."This shit doesn't help either.
>>503504289fwa
>>503504525Hiring Ian is the result of Sega not caring.
>>503503828>>503503987It's been yearsWhy do people still care about her when we got Sage?
>>503504289I don't think the series should have a single main writer like Ian is trying to be. But I would replace Ian with Ian.
>>503504289>So you hate Ian. Who would you replace him with as a western writer?I wouldn't. Western writers ruin everything they touch in this franchise because the entire inspiration and framework of Sonic is built off of Japanese culture and ideals.
Sometimes it feels like I care more about my escapist fantasies than my actual life. To be honest, that sounds kind of unfulfilling but to me it seems to be working out in a way.
>>503504238When Maria and Gerald are* Wow, one missing letter and now it's English. Now answer the fucking question.
>>503504239We need some fresh talented blood, anon.preferably those who do not post on tumblr and hate wokeness, politics and shipping and only focus on action and world building. Somewhat like the golden days of archie but without the annoying nonsense
>>503504650I just think she’s neat and cute!
>>503504459The fact you are unable to comprehend neutrality says a lot about you. This isn't me disagreeing with you even, I just want you to stop spamming your constant whining about Ian Flynn. That's all you ever do, and it's annoying as fuck.
>>503504478You shouldn't have shown me this. By the way, yet another Sonadow piece where Sonic is just Amy.
>>503504662So you believe that on an intrinsic, perhaps even biological level, no western writer will ever "get it".
>>503504289awf
>>503504114>To make it action-focused again and stop it being a boring crybaby feefee-fest.That a problem with IDW in general and not Evan specific. See recent Knuckles Anniversary mini by Ian.>To stop flooding it with her lesbian breakfast club OCs and make it about the game cast again.Tangle, Whisper, and Lanolin aren't her OCs. And this problem, again, isn't Evan specific.>To stop making Surge a crybaby woobie and make her a badass threat again.She was never a threat. Surge got BTFO'd by a giant hammer Super Badnik and needed Kit's help to beat Metal. Really, the only W she's gotten was against Whisper of all people. And even then, she needed whatever that Eggtech was called in order to do it.You seem to be blaming Evan specifically for problems that exist in IDW in general. The truth is, things aren't gonna change cause IDW hires cheap not talented. See the differences between IDW GI Joe and Skybound GI Joe.
>>503504857
>>503504650Nta, but I like her for the same reason I like Silver. Good concept for a neat character, soiled by a shitty execution.
>>503504701How the fuck is it "debatable" that Rouge and Omega are a "factor" to Shadow? Your question is based on a false premise.
>>503504568Yes, it's exactly like that South Park episode where the boys saw George Lucas and Steven Spielberg raping Indiana Jones. We have to witness Ian Flynn raping our favorite characters in every game now and yet have think it isn't horrific because Sega nonchalantly allows it.
>>503499113Go take your clothes off and wait for me on the couch. I'll make you feel better soon
>>503504878If they were born in Japan or spent time reworking the way they viewed things to be more in line with Japan, they would get it. But they do not.
>>503501053MILKIES
>>503504998I think we all know IDW characters are great by concept and design but have shitty writing.
>>503504857Whisper needs her doritos
>>503504841Do you actually think only one person shits on Ian in here? Lol. Kek even.
>>503505214literally me
>>503505020Because the whole Team Dark argument is a gray area. People can still say Shadow only gives a fuck about Maria and Gerald.
>>503505023>unironically citing a South Park joke as your reason for hating someone... Do you also sincerely believe that redheads are soulless monsters? Fuck me, I'm talking to someone who actually never matured past their edgy teen phase. The fuck am I doing with my life right now?
Ianfags believe>Ian is hate for NO REASON at all.>Only one person hates Ian. Everyone loves him actually.
>>503505427Evan….
>>503505427Evan...
>>503505487eslfag….
>>503505362Those "people" are fucking retarded.
>>503505393The fact you took that post so literal shows your level of maturity.
>>503505393>Do you also sincerely believe that redheads are soulless monsters?Not him, but...
>>503493394Silver is a pragmatic yet emotional brash punk. Very similar to Surge actually but with way more altruism.
>>503505614So, does Amy fit into this circle? You have her relationship with Sonic to still deal with.
>>503504969>That a problem with IDW in generalBecause both of the head writers love emotions and melodrama more than action and adventure.>Tangle, Whisper, and Lanolin aren't her OCs.Ian and Evan both love gay OC drama, and Whisper is literally her OC.>Surge was never a threat.Good, she's an underdog.>Surge got BTFO'd by a giant hammer Super Badnik and needed Kit's help to beat Metal. She tanked the hammer, and Metal SHOULD take backup to beat unless the one fighting him is Sonic himself.>The truth is, things aren't gonna change cause IDW hires cheap not talented.Sad but true.
>>503505603Convert them all with the fox dick.
Who triggered you now, /sthg/? was it that yellow cat's fault?
What does THE Flynnfag hope to accomplish whining to everyone in these threads? Like always, you can tell it's him by how emotionally invested he is in defending Ian's honor and trying to be the "reasonable" one among us.
>>503505158Some of them are shitty by concept. Anything that tries to deconstruct the Sonic status quo in IDW is nowhere near as smart as it thinks it is.
>>503505878no it was the crying lesbians
>>503501053Sex
>>503505878Las gata gets no blame.
>>503505158Tangle was the only one great in concept. The others are shit all around, especially Whisper.
>>503506023Who?
>>503506206other way around, tangle is the only downright superfluous character
>>503506176>So it was YOUR fault. you bad cat. who did you assault this time? You are much worse than Sonic...
>>503505023>raping our favorite characters in every game now and yet have think it isn't horrific because Sega nonchalantly allows it.These characters have been raped so much over the decades that it registers like a Tuesday shoot out at an american theater
I need that comic with the Billy Elish copypasta where Lanolin it's talking about Whisper being autisticCan anyone post it please?
>>503506206Whisper is great under a different direction. I like the op official vibe.
>>503506487>Me? Assaulted? Nobody.>Not yet at least.
>>503504650It's even better now that we have Sage, because they can completely fucking destroy Belle's ego, hopes and desires with Sage's inclusion.Belle might've been the perfect girl for Mr. Tinkerer, but Sage is the perfect girl for Eggman.
>>503506774For one thing Sage isn’t an ugly-ass puppet.
>>503506774Belle was built for RAPE
>>503505732... No. No she fucking doesn't. Retard piece of shit.
>>503506626it's on the booru
Fang. Join us.
>>503506206>>503506486>Protective mother wolf who wants to kill Eggman and Mimic after being betrayed, losing the people she cared about and being distant from others out of fear of losing again.>Fun loving and clumsy lemur who just wants to go on cool adventures and save the day like the heroes she looks up to.These are both completely fine on paper, and would be fine if they weren't written so horribly. Plus they even have gameplay options built into their design as well.
Who will Trip rape first if she comes to Modern?
>>503506038What do you mean? Didn't you enjoy the Eggmoon episode? Don't you love a bunch of fakers and nobodies thinking they can challenge Sonic's ways?
>>503507253Fang(Again)
>>503507253Knuckles
>>503507253
>>503507015What do you mean? You can't just retcon it out.
Canon shipping!
>>503507297Jet is the worst one because without a hoverboard he’s absolutely nothing.
>>503507205IT'S TOO LATE, I ALREADY MADE A NUCLEAR FART THAT WILL MELT YOUR FACE.HERE SMELL IT ALL, YOU LUSTFUL DYKE!
You can't just give Amy Shadow when Rouge exists and they have leagues more to work with as recent as Shadow Gens.
Woof woof whimper
>>503507667*fucks*
>>503507429Boy is this person gonna be mad to find out Sega made the character straight.
>>503507629It's mainly one dude who spams shadamy here. Don't give them attention.
>>503507386>without a hoverboard he’s absolutely nothing.The Bashosen would like to have a word with you.
>>503507360There's nothing to retcon. Amy and Shadow had ONE conversation, and the VN is apparently not canon. So no, fuck your character dynamics. Shadow is STRONG and doesn't need anyone. Fuck off with your retarded headcanon shite.
>>503507681Why is this allowed
>>503507681>tails He's so young, though.
>ARRRRR We boardin yer ships landlubbers!
>>503507914Now post the Daniel Barnes anti-white
>>503507982So?
>>503502497Hey dumbass, its black friday this week. No shit its half off so early in the game. The same thing happened to Sonic Frontiers. Think before you post, faggot.
>>503507889Why are you allowed to be here
>>503508059>a ship>with no canons
>>503508223Why are you allowed to defend degenerates
>>503507839I'm just talking in general, like genuinely they should just keep it to takeovers, but leave it out of the games.
Pottery...
*BEEP* *BEEP*Best ship coming through.
the only sonic game I own that's not a rom download or stupid license to view the content is sonic adventure for the dreamcast
>>503508234>We takin yours too... oh you don't have any......... BUNCHA LANDLUBBERS
>thread devolved into drama about literal whos on twitterwhy is he so hard for people to talk about sonic here?
>>503507386>Everyone keeps forgeting about the literal Sun Wukong weapons
Look at this perfect ship
>>503507637>shadow already had the perfect woman >retards try to stick him with Sonic’s girl
>>503508219I think people who bought day one are retarded.
>>503508208Trans kids is such a disgusting movement that I'll forever hate about the left.
>>503508436Stealing Amy’s booty
>>503507806Explain.
>>503504692I'm so jaded with real life...now I'm just pretending that I'm having hot sex with Shadow...
>>503508701>ARRRRRRRR
>>503508208>draws literal diapershit>troon ideologykek
>>503508115
This isn't your blog
>>503508786
>>503508646Tails looks sickly without his orange.
>>503508923Belongs to shadow
>>503508208Why are all tranny shills into children
>>503504269Why doesn't Surge dress like Sonic if she was designed solely to succeed
Sa2 was a shadouge game, sorry shadamykeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9EMtlxiPzA
>Naval warfare
>>503509242Artist?
>>503509254>Surrenda all yer booty, SCRUBS.
>>503509106They're pedophiles.
>>503507429I'm all for people living their life and all but how's this different than the guy who inserted Jesus Fish in that one Sonic game he helped make?
>>503508710They are Sega characters now. And having gay and trans characters are bad for business i.e. can't see shit in China or the middle east.All characters are either Straight or Default (Straight but not mentioned). You'll never see an actual gay kiss in IDW Sonic. Not without someone getting fired anyway.
>>503509431Made for batten rouge
Why is it that literally ALL Tails fans are pedophiles? Absolutely every single one.
>>503509431how many piratdows are there
>>503509291>t. pedophile degenerateThere are so many artists online that haven't posted porn and do a way better job at drawing Sonic, yet they don't work for Sega.
>>503509106>>503509291>>503509438Naoto Oshima literally likes shotacon art of Tails on twitter
>>503509658Lol do you have any screenshots i wanna see
>>503509658But he doesn't support child mutilating for fetishes.
>>503509754
>>503509658>even the creators are pedo freaks... I want to be surprised, but I'm not.
sonic in my dramathread????
One of the few reasons that Shadow even bothers to protect the planet is because Amy proved to him that there are people like Maria that see the best even in the worst of places, still living on Earth.I don't even see Shadow caring enough to be truly intimate with anyone ever again, but even if he doesn't bother with Amy directly he still enjoys knowing that people like her exist.
>>503509829>Yea but I still guarantee they have drawn porn of the characters. They just haven't publicly posted it.Who cares? You can do whatever you want behind closed doors, but making it public changes absolutely everything you fucking buffoon.
>>503509991>>503509991>>503509991
>>503509658He’s Japanese, so he’s a pedophile by default.
Tails shotacon art is fine, it's making your own self-insert to fuck him that comes off as weird, then on top of that pushing for trans children activism which is an incredibly sickening and evil agenda that mutilates children who haven't even fully developed their brains.
>>503509658troons don't want to be seen for the degenerates they really are. They'll deflect, call you a bigot, etc. all in an attempt to take the moral highground and spread their filthy ideology.Sonic should buzzsaw through them and say a quip.
>>503509824Kek doesn't seem that bad desu
>>503509834This isn't fucking new dudeCapcom hired lolicon smut artists to work on Mega Man games one of which does art for Pokemon cards nowPlenty of mangaka have made NSFW material and sold it at conventions like comiket like the woman who made Bocchi the Rock being a loliconJapan doesn't give a flying fuck about what you draw in fiction and think you're the crazy one for equating fictional people with real life people
>>503509824>that first picgigabased
>>503510126Anon, that's the SFW stuff
>>503510132Japan is so based for that
>>503496617desu seconding that
>>503501246what the fuck is ia?
>>503507681Uncensored now....
>>503510029
I hope she dies for being a woman...
>>503491351If they're all versions of Sonic, they're all Sonic, that's what I said.
It all starts with this, a jewel containing the ultimate power...
Who the fuck cares about fighting vipers lol, archie honey is way better
>this is your last chance, Sonic. take off your pants, OR ELSE!!!
am i going crazy?
>>503541938Maybe
>>503541938No
>>503541938I am not weak I am not weak I am not weak I am not weak I am not weak I am not weak
https://x.com/fowltown/status/1860834378211021057?t=5i_41_kHI0-IsGG-LeobOA&s=19
>>503561650If Fowler based Sonic and Shadow off of what they were like in Shadow 05, I wonder how if influenced his view of the other characters.
What happened here?
>>503562926I don't know.
>>503563568Ok. Wanna hold hands?
>>503563629Sure.I haven't held hands with anyone in nearly a decade now.
>>503563961Let's change that.
>>503567228Why are you watching nutty professor
>>503567691No babe. Why are WE watching Nutty Professor?
>>503567621>nine concept art
>>503482925wade the reddit
Shadria..
