>Opening Cinematichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOVg2aLjIiU>Early Access Launch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VZsq_vJjGk>Full PoE 2 EA Content Revel Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIbaTXJD4g>Early Access Launch December 6thhttps://pathofexile2.com>Teasershttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3584453>FAQhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981>Official Wikihttps://www.poe2wiki.net>Game Database (80% of the shit on poe2db is incredibly outdated, for now)https://poe2db .tw/us/>Ingame Chat Channel/global 1488EA Key; >>503482973
>F2P LMAO PAY UP POORS
>>503508065no molestar lmao
WHAT DOES ELON THINK OF POO2?
>Jonathan interview>but it's with Ghazzy and DarthFaggotI think not.
UH HO
>>503508302you are the only jeet malding about the price though?
mfw i see poe1 fags in the street
Theres no way this is true >>503506620Move speed is only on boots and nowhere else?
>>503508467wat where
>guise I've played PoE1 like 20,000 hours and I'd say I understand like 5% of it, like you need a fooking PhD to play diz game it's so hardcoar!
>>503508501why is iron man shitting on our game bros
>>503508628starting in 16 minutes
what went wrong? pooe1bro
>>503508467Just wait for 26th for dinosaur guy interview with Jonathan
>>503508560maybe somme ascendancies get it but else it looks grimalso no real movement skills
How did the jeet afford a pass? He's posting so fast
>>503508660Normies fucking disgust meI hate this "haha I'm so bad!" bullshit so much, I see it everywhereI hate the glorification of mediocrity
Is this game's plot a sequel or concurrent with POE1?
>>503508065HOLY KINO
mister elon saar pleas pump niggercoin saar
Doryani did nothing wrong.
>>503508302>40:30>>503508387>41:08>>503508501>42:10>>503508554>42:36>>503508560>42:41>>503508739>44:25>>503508828>45:12>>503508841Either he got a pass or there's an entire jeetcord dumping their shit here
>>503508841he's probably a janny lolI got 3day'd for saying jeet the other day
>>503508950I did that once. Then i had to pay import tolls and it took over half a year to get here. I'll pass
>>503509031retard
PATH OF EXILE 2 HAS NO SWORDS PATH OF EXILE 2 HAS NO SWORDS PATH OF EXILE 2 HAS NO SWORDS PATH OF EXILE 2 HAS NO SWORDS PATH OF EXILE 2 HAS NO SWORDS
>>503508501fuck this pretentious scam artist
>>503509004trvke
>>503509031meds
so many shitters won't use the insanely broken dodge iframes
No jeets will be playing PoE 2 now. They can't afford it.
>>503509031(you)
>>503509031>only 1 person can be negative about my new favourite product and they have to be paid for itoy vey
Vaal is so cool. I like PoE lore. It’s fun. I don’t the marauder race though, they are like unga bunga monkey people savages, the azmeri are superior to them in every way. I hope that PoE has fishing and cooking
>hear about thirdie price reverted>check steam>price is still the samekino
>>503508501>"learn all this" memeyeah except you don't have to learn the whole tree.why are twitch autists so bad at selling to casuals.
>>503509218You already have dodge frames in poe1 (move out of the way so the attack doesn't hit).
>>503505558Offer still stands
>>503509031based schizo keeping things fun till poo number 2
We're so hyped.
>>503509363Some counties even got the prices reduced.
>>503507862Whoever does concept art and boss design for PoE 2 needs a raise. It's absolutely amazing, almost on par with Miura.
>>503509031Hello Tencent.
>>503509404even poojeets have dignity anon
>>503509464based
>>503509508hmmmmmmm boobies
>>503509162Im starting sword, sounds like you're having a common case of skill issue.
>>503509468India got a massive price increase, that explains the meltdown today
>>503509359>unga-bunga monkey people savages>he believes the oriathi propagandaKarui are noble people that have freed themselves from the Templar slavery and despite the many wrongdoings of Oriathians against them, they have decided not to enact vengeance against them after Kitava has returned, but to embrace them in their common struggle against the g*ds.
>>503509464Me and my friends(imaginary) waiting for PoE2.
>>503509464Me sitting next to Uiharu.
>>503509031>call jeetcord out>immediate 6 replies in the spam of 3 minuteskek, smart bait anon
>>503509464>jew company still holding toaru anime hostageI wish we were living in a timeline where Kyoani got the license.
>>503507862WHERE THE FUCK IS CHRIS WILSON? IS THIS POE IN NAME ONLY OR ACTUALLY THE SAME PEOPLE WORKING ON THE GAME?
bros.... we're back, aren't we?
Just FYI I bought the Vaal and Penance pack. It was well worth it.
>>503509850absolutely.
>>503509803retard
>>503509845Jonathan is keeping his corpse in a freezer.
>>503509508hyper-stylized is easier. but gj presumably inspiring the design of the aliens in mars attacks
poe1 i s dead
4 minute until Jonathan Q&A
>>503509803based
>>503507862What would you do if Lumenoctis came up and slapped your girlfriends ass?
>>503509845Some Chinese company bought the game afaik.
>>503509845He left the company long ago.
Regional prices have been updated once again. What is the reason for such total love from GGG to Brazil and Russia with its satellite states?
>>503509998>ginger D4 faggotnot watching
>>503509404lavonda.47d4d7fc@nicoric.com
>>503509841I became so disinterested in the anime part-way into Index3. I didn't find the whole England stuff engaging at all.
>>503509890Only poors don’t buy supporter packs. This is an objective fact. Poor people do not deserve early access. They don’t contribute to society(fake and gay) with their labours and yet they imagine themselves worthy of rewards. Truly pathetic individuals.
https://www.twitch.tv/talkativetriGET IN HERE FAGGOTS
>>503510117yeah i pay for goods and services in VIETNAMESE DONG
>>503510117official partner
>>503510239wrong channel retard his interview is tuesday
>free game>#4 top SELLERThe fuck?
>>503510321Who tf is buying STALKER 2?
>>503510321For the last fucking time, PoE 2 is not a free game, it costs 30 dollars.
>>503510239Is this somebody's bastard like Ziggy D or what?
>>503510287oh yeah it's that d4 cuck i forgot
Is it true... there will be no swords AT ALL in path of exile 2 early access? What the fuck? I wanted to do a melee mercenary but how can I even do that now? I'd have to use a fucking hammer? Are there any melee weapons at all besides quarter staff and fucking maces? CHRIS WIILSON!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>503510257does not explain KZ and UA, unless GGG counts them as a part of Russiamore like a 50% discount for all east Slavs of nowhere
>>503510418Stalker is normiecore now, I even saw Sasha Gray streaming it and she sucks cocks for a living.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUsOYxBAr18ROD FERGUSSON BTFOD
>>503510117>LATAM USD still the samebased
>>503509686are we gonna have a poo egg clan or guild...idk what they're even called in poe actually
>>503510465Not only are there no weapons, there also are no skills for those weapons yet.
>>503510117>fighting a war is as bad as living in BrazilOh nonono
put the best portalskin in the bag.... and tell me which one it is!
>>503510746*special military operation
watching my boy darthmicrotrans
>>503509404>>503505558DELIVER>>503510136
>>503510321>#2 Finnish Cottage Simulatortrying to figure out what type of games to make must drive executive types absolutely crazy.
>>503510772no legacy portal for you
>>5035101171/4 of all POE players are from russia.source: trust me bro
the cluster grenade in the trailer is going to be in the ea right? i'm not seeing it on the db
>>503510945they just buy data from tencent and steam and then just feed it to their data science/AI team to come up with the most profitable slop
>>503511049The db is super outdated, don't use it.
Did they disclose the rest of the ascendancy nodes?
>>503511147What should we use instead? I dont use discord
>>503511049yeah a bunch of stuff has changed since earlier versions of the game.
>>503510170Not making Othinus Arc as an anime is a crime against humanity.
>>503511176Yea
>>503510456I can at least respect DarthMicrotransaction because when he first tried out PoE, he immediately made videos about how much better it was than D4 and just played it for like 2 weeks straight. Obviously D4 is his main source of income, but at least he doesn't just write off PoE like most of the other d4 cucks
>>503511262doko kudasai
https://www.twitch.tv/darthmicrotransactionhttps://www.twitch.tv/darthmicrotransactionhttps://www.twitch.tv/darthmicrotransactionbfr interview
>>503511127probably. they have to protect themselves from accountability for their own decisions.
>>503508660I unironically get it. I played Warframe for 3k hours. There are frames/interactions I know at expert level because I main them and do my own theorycraft, but because I don't care about a lot of frames/weapons and there are a lot of weird interactions, I probably don't know more than I know about the game. Sure if I decide to pick a new weapon or frame I can make my own functional "end game" build, but there's always some weird obscure multiplicative bullshit like using galvanized aptitude to 4x your damage on a weapon it would make no sense to put it on.
Johnny when
>>503511413https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPrCIqsNtK0superior stream
>>503511205Nothing currently. The game isn't out yet, everything is still subject to change and all skill shit is just going to be screenshots from gameplay videos. Even the journalist event in LA from 2 weeks ago has had massive changes between then and the early access reveal stream. Once the game is out, the information will be datamined, and then you can use poedb.
>>503511489i dont support swedes
>>503511147its gotten updated with some stats recently because all the spirit costs of buffs went from 100>30. but they are clearly just copying down stuff visible in playthroughs.
uuh jeetbros... Poo2 now costs our entire salary benchod?we wont be able to afford it... it's over/poe2g/ will enjoy and have fun playing while we just doompost like cucks in the general
>your choice for melee weapons are maces or quarter staffs in early access.>Quarter staff only looks interesting when on monkFUCK!!!!!!!!!!! Your character will look so gay if you use a quarter staff on anything else besides monk. BFR and weebs win again.
>>503511809pajeets literally make thousands a week from scam call centers
>>503511809gatekeeping works
finding out I can only have one of a support gem active at a time was a real bummer.if I want my grenade skill to be enhanced with multiple projectiles and drop 3 grenades instead of 1, and at the same time I want my high velocity rounds skill to be enhanced with multiple projectiles and shoot 2 projectile shots instead of 1, I should be able to do that.POE1 does not place an arbitrary limit like this on the player.If I want to create a build where all of my abilities can pierce or all of them can cause bleeding or all of them can shock enemies, I should be able to do that. by saying "you can only have one ability that can have an additional projectile" you are taking away some of what makes the game fun for me.the fact that the game does not allow you to enhance a skill with every single possible enhancement at the same time is already a nearly perfect system. when I choose to add an enhancement, I'm also simultaneously essentially also choosing not to add others. for example, perhaps a cold enhancement gem exists that would make my grenades and shots do cold damage, slowing or freezing enemies. however I no longer have enough slots in the ability to enhance the ability with both multiple projectiles and freeze, unless I perhaps remove yet another gem that enhances the ability in some other way, like removing a life leech enhancement. in other words, I have interesting and meaningful choices already, so it's not necessary to impose additional limitations.whatever positive benefit you think artificially limiting players to only being able to allocate 1 of each support gem brings to the game, I can assure you, it's not worth it. all you are doing is gatekeeping fun from players for essentially no reason.
>>503511891>Quarter staff only looks interesting when on monksource?
>>503510772Id like the toads if they weren't way too fucking big or were just one frog with 6 clicks
>>503511891are there really no spears even though there are like 10 spear-only skills?
>>503511991>replied to blizzschizo
It's starting
>>503511964>If I want to create a build where all of my abilities can pierce or all of them can cause bleeding or all of them can shock enemies, I should be able to do thatyou haven't played PoE1 and it shows
how do we fix jonathan's weight?
um bros....w-what's starting?
>>503510772
>>503510772default
>>503512195give him to an architect
>>503510772Penance one is cool and it comes with a supporter pack also i got a bald headhunter
>>503512195his bfr handler needs to come back
>>503511964>If I want to create a build where all of my abilities can pierce or all of them can cause bleeding or all of them can shock enemies, I should be able to do thatNo you fucking shouldn't, it's boring.
>>503508660>hyping up the game... le BAD!You'll get a code one day champ
slimy maoriGIVE CHRIS BACK
>>503509262Funny because I was going to buy EA yesterday but didn't and it dropped from 60€ to 56€. They are making it cheaper for people who can afford it and more expensive for people who can't. I don't mind thirdies that much but I hate playing with turks and if I detect a kos nanat nigger I instantly leave. They are even worse than russians.
>jonathan is scaredit's over
>sunday night>there are still people in the officeWhat the fuck are these slave conditions?
>>503512523he doesn't look maori at all wtf
>>503512457You VILL use different gems and you CAN'T do what you want in my game.My game, my rules.
rip GGG server
>>503512628>My game, my rules.Correct. Rules make games fun. If you don't like the rules, don't play.It's that easy.
>>503512686don't worry, they will just shut down poe1 servers in favor of poe2
>>503512560they probably can't get people to go home and stop working after the reception of the poe2 review.
>>503512560kiwi niggers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZjjhVN1fVcGGG presentation
>>503512610OVERLEECH IS FUCKING BACKKINOKINOKINOKINO
>>503512758so the tencent employees in the general rumours were true
>please I was there... GIVE ME ATTENTION I WAS THEREemp*rian is such a woman holy shit
>>503512797The second leech actually becomes good again is the second you will just get oneshot again
>>503511991>>503512048You can use quarter staff skills on other characters obviously but all the skills that use quarter staffs all look VERY VERY monk like. It would look odd on lets say warrior. That annoys me. From what I gather also, the available weapon types at launch are maces, quarter staffs, crossbows, bows, wands, caster staff?
what the fuck is he talking about?
>>503512628>tfw you rugby tackle someone to win a chess match and get kicked out of FIDE
He's talking so fast lol
its like 9:20 monday morning in NZ retards
>>503512560RETARDIT'S 9AM IN AUCKLAND
>>503512884>but all the skills that use quarter staffs all look VERY VERY monk likeAgain, source?
is jonathan on coke?
Does the $100 supporter pack give you the other one too?
>>503513057Monk
>>503512943TFW when your chess tournament implements a new rule>You can only move the same piece once every 3 turns
>>503512874sure if leech is your only defensive layer.
>jonathan was the brogrammer>erik was the artistWhat did chris do? Just another anglojew businessman?
>>503513078why wouldnt he behes very keen on coke
>>503508467>DarthFaggotWhy is anyone watching this guy? Literally a grifter. The only guy worth anything is Raxx because he goes straight to the point and uses the power of his autism to deliver and go beyond NPC surface level takes.
>inb4 they make PoE 2 have 3rd person pov
>they waste time animating idle animations for monsters
>>503513126>What did chris dosupplied the money
>>503513126>What did chris do?selling snake oil, like he still sometimes does
>>503513126Chris was the ideas guy.
>>503513203and supplied the garage
>>503513117>your chess tournamentin what sense "your"? I think we're getting to the crux of the problem here
>>503513168>bluehoodied mazed d4 faggot "worth anything"retard
>thread schizo don't seem to be aware of the time zone
>>503513126Chris was the RMT guy.
The more I see, the less impressed I am. This is just PoE1 with a new coat of paint.
My chess tournament, my rules.You WILL move the same piece only once every 3 turns, and you WON'T use the same gem twice!
WHY IS THAT DUDE WEARING A SKIRT???
>>503513487LEAKER WAS RIGHTGGGBROS ITS OVER
>Johnny wrote THAT cringy cutscenelamorolf even
>>503513487BREEDABLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPrCIqsNtK0
>>503513487holy shit, that leak was actually real
>>503513185>>503513189source?>>503513475>>You WILL move the same piece only once every 3 turns>still believing in made up nonsenseIdiotic jeet, despite jeet beings naturally good at chess, you still manage to be a retard
>delayed another two weeksWHAT THE FUCK NIGGGERS
>>503513487Leaker was right, half the guys in the office are on HRT
Would you forge in her crucible?
>>503513736He's got a type.
>hold back by MTXits over
>>503513487would
>>503513774>her
>>503513821The leak prophet was right all along...
BROS IM SO FUCKING EXCITED AHH i never played poe1 btw
>>503513632perhaps Jonathan should write all of Blizzard's cutscenes moving forward, they're much worse at it.
>>503513698>Arbitrary rules are good only in cases i like themThe 1 gem rule is dumb, and the only thing it accomplishes that people will use the next best thing.
>>503513698>source?>>503513674
>>503511413>Why are there still 6 portals if you fail the map after one death?>Oh it's because of MTXThe veil is being slowly lifted, poebros
>>503513912>always has been.webp
Party play cartel already laughing all the way to the bank with RMT money.
>>503513969Just because blizzard is bad at it doesn't mean jonathan is good. They both suck.
>>503513126the money guy
>>503512971>>503513078has to be the adderal/vyvanse
>>503513985> and the only thing it accomplishes that people will use the next best thing.so, what's the problem? it encourages build variety.>>503514135>>Oh it's because of MTXhow do you expect your party to enter your maps with a single portal, jeet?
>>503514291>how do you expect your party to enter your maps with a single portal, jeet?all use the same?MrGGG literally said its because MTX, get fucked
Jonathan is acting real weird...
is jonathan gen x or millenial?
>>503513774Yeah>>503513802Nice
>>503514231the one proper cutscene GGG have ever done got so much more actual storytelling done than any blizzard cutscene post-D2, it's not even close. they can't even kill off a bunch of rando NPCs and introduce a villain without spending millions of dollars cringing everyone into submission.
>>503514291>Playing poe in a partyIol>jeetlmao evenStill, MTX being the reason to any mechanic is garbage
>>503514291>everyone runs 2x GMPturns into>everyone runs 1x GMP and 1x Greater VolleyYou are implying that people will use different things. What will happen is that everyone will run the same thing, whatever their buildmaker of choice says or whatever bubbles to the top on poe.ninja. There will be no variety, because a game like this will always have builds that are the most optimal.
>>503514414i miss BFR
>>503513985>The 1 gem rule is dumbIt's not.>and the only thing it accomplishes that people will use the next best thing.This is fantastic because it encourages creative thinking to figure out what the next best thing actually is.You had 10 years of being able to have identical supports on all your links. How can you hate such a fresh idea so much is beyond me.It's good for games to not be identical to each other.
>>503514513More like square fat retard
>>503514449>cutscene plays>esc esc esci do not care about the story
>they re-introduced MF but more powerfulWhat the fuck...
I wish Mark was there
>>503514364>>all use the same?>no intuitive way to tell how many uses are left anymoreI am glad jeets aren't game designers>>503514471>>Playing poe in a party>Iolyou haven't played PoE and it shows, jeet>>503514491>>everyone runs 2x GMPname three different builds that run multiple GMP supports in different skillsI'll wait
>>503514726>name three different builds that run multiple GMP supports in different skillsI'm gonna get ahead of this, he's about to pretend that people play essence drain+soulrend (no one does).
>>503514726>>>all use the same?>>no intuitive way to tell how many uses are left anymore>I am glad jeets aren't game designersone portal with like 2/6 above iteasy, simplecockblocked by MTX officially
>>503514491>everyone is the one type of person I imagine them to be in my headno that's wrong you are projecting. not everyone robotically follows guides. many guides are suboptimal in ways no one who uses them notices, or they are only workable in trade league.
It will be the tf2 of arpgs…or will d2r keep the title?
>>503514726Joining chayula runs at level 68 isn't playing poe in a partyHaving your wife's boyfriend running maps while you aurabot isn't playing poe in a party either
>>503514707makes sense, if you are going to nerf speed all over the place, you have to get better farming efficiency from something that isnt speed IE magic find
I've never played PoE. What's the point of "revealing" an item? Just seems like an unecessary step. Why can't I just see items like any normal ARPG?
>>503514615People don't really need to do any more or less thinking. They simply need to take the next best thing, but the thought process to arrive there is the exact same, except that the first few options are gonna be unavailable.>>503514834Right now? None.In Poo2? The guy who mentioned grenades earlier for example, and i am sure there's a bunch of builds who would want multiple instances of GMP on their character but can't because YOU WILL USE DIFFERENT GEMS
>>503514705i care about you though anon! :)
>>503514951because diablo had itand poe 2 has it because gamble dopamine addiction
>>503514951Identifying a good item feels nice. And loot filters means you'd just hide everything with shit mods
MFKEKS WON...AT L-LEAST WE STILL HAVE OUR O-ONE DEATH PER M-MAP, R-RIGHT BROS?
Since Stalker 2 didn't shape up to be a game I wished it would be, POE2 better deliver! Just give me one good title in 2024. This year was such a let down.
>>503514951dopamine rush, same as pulling gacha
>>503514951It's a remnant from D1/2 which inspired POE in the first placeI still ffind it cool though so I don't mind
>>503514951the item doesn't have mods generated until you id it, and the server has to do the generation to prevent duping. it's a bandwidth and processor issue: remember poe1 can have hundreds of items drop at once.
>>5035148802/4 watchstoner, i see.You will not ascend to being a good player in poe2, your shit tier status in poe1 will directly translate to shit tier status in poo2.
>launch pushed to dec 20thI TOOK THE FUCKING WEEK OFF GGG WHAT FUCKING REASON
>>503514951so you can sell unID'd stuff to others, so they can gamba
>>503514951Risk/reward/gambling incentive. You get to experience both the drop and the reveal which results in more feel good chemicals than just giving you the shit. Also revealing rolls mods and stats on whatever the base drop is
>>503515321>to 24th decthanks santa jonathan
another example of GGG missing deadlines
No Abyss for EA?
>>503514951because fuck you thats why
>>503515043>They simply need to take the next best thingThat next best thing is no longer obvious, so you have to make decisions to CREATE the next best thing through synergy of gems and mechanics.>The guy who mentioned grenades earlier for example, and i am sure there's a bunch of builds who would want multiple instances of GMP on their character but can't because YOU WILL USE DIFFERENT GEMSAnd this is a perfect example of why it's good. You have to apply some creativity instead of having to pay GMT tax for every gem link. You have to pick what to GMP, what to make bounce instead, what to make activate twice, what to increase the AOE of etc.It's honestly fucking genius and it is such a novelty boost to what is essentially a revamp mod of POE1 otherwise.
>>503509302i'm very confused about this item.so, we know there i active block that lets you block all damage from frontal hits.and we know shields convey a passive block chance too, that has passive nodes to increase the chance.so what the fuck does that line mean? can block damage from all hits?
Completely new to the PoE games. How pay to win are they?
>>503515238tier level (and the dividable rolls within them) should do a lucky roll on first ID. Anyone who disagrees is a fag
>>503515452abyss sucks it needs a rework
>>503515490Active block cannot block big boss hitsI guess the shield lets you block these too.
>>503515490it means the active block is omnidirectional, instead of directional
>>503515519You can buy stash space and cosmetics
>>503515490it lets you block spells
>>503514951real answer is this >>503515281ignore the jeet spammers>>503514923Speaking from experience?
>>503515305I'm okay with that.I'm hoping that poe2 isn't going to be as much of a time played = progress game but I'm not realistically going to be playing for 300 hours per league anyway.
>>503515625Extremely based.
>>503515519You can spend like $30-40 on stash tabs and be good for life
>>503515540needs a delete or some fucking loot to drop from it
>>503515519the only way to p2w is RMT, which is bannable
>>503515473The process to arrive at the next best thing is the exact same process to arrive at the first best thing, except that first best thing is now locked away.What do you think you have to do to arrive at the next best thing?Do you think you'll make a brand new build in a game with limited choices?
>>503515626>>503515693>>503515720Perfect. Thank you.
>>503515519The pay-to-win aspect is basically stash tabs and easier trading mechanics (Paid stash tabs let you post items to trade)
>>503515519on a scale from 0 - 100 maybe a 7
>>503515519If you buy the $30 pack you should be able to buy enough stash tabs to play comfortably (wait for sales)To blast like the youtube videos you will need to RMT a lot of items on a certain cartel discord
>druid animal forms are the three harvest bosses
>>503515595we saw active block blocking boss hits in this vid tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2UqGMmldc>>503515596omnidirectional would make sense... but sounds busted.>>503515648spells are just hits now, theyre not separate from attack hits for the purpose of blocking
is it true that POE2 is the darks souls of AARPGs?
>>503515720>RMT>bannable*laughs in jenebu*
>>503515519>p2wnot at all unless you can consider RMTing p2w but you also risk losing your accountthe game itself it's more like pay for convenient, since having some stash tabs is convenientif you plan to play PoE2, just grab the 30 USD pack and it gives you 30 USD worth of points, more than enough to buy the essential tabs during sale
What a difference between listening to the GGG guys talk about the game compared to the Diablo campfires.
>every class doesnt have the same passive treeAnother fundamental core part of PoE changed. Thanks i guess
>>503515775you'll never get banned for it though so it's completely p2w just not officially. kinda like mods in xiv
>>503515720i paided for all my supporter packs with RMT
>>503515867varga wonbelttranny lost
>>503515829Boss hits that cannot be blocked show a red effect while the boss is swinging. I figure they would also block these.
>>503515834its actually the dark souls of diablo-likes
>>503515834No
>>503515947>>503515687
>>503515672It's a grinding game. Time invested will always be a big factor in how far you get.>I just want other people to be as shit as i amThis is a cancerous mindset. The problem is not other people doing better than you, it's you using people who apply themselves more as a measurement for your own progress.It's a good thing that less time invested translates to less progress in a fucking grind-centric game.
>>503515834poe1 is unironically harder than any entry by fromsoftware, so yes
cassiabroswe won
>>503515942retarded niggerblatantly wrongkill yourself
>>503516079your original point was that all people who play poe1 are the same but now you've acknowledged that to not be the case. ty for conceeding.
>>503516168
>>503515942it's only this small part of the start area that swaps depending on your class
will marauder use swords?
>8 assencion pointsBASED IF TRUE
>>503515754>The process to arrive at the next best thing is the exact same process to arrive at the first best thing, except that first best thing is now locked away.It's not. Say you're doing LA. You link GMP to it, you link lightning pen to it (assume it's the BIS dps boost for it), you link added lightning damage (assume it's second BIS), and 3 more supports.Those 5 supports are now remove from the pool.Your other bow skill has 5 competitive support gems for a lightning proj skill removed. This encourages you to build it completely differently and to pick a skill that isn't just the closest approximation of LA, and create synergy based on your ascendancy and other mechanics.>Do you think you'll make a brand new build in a game with limited choices?All games limited choices and gem choice is just a small part of your total choices anyway.
>>503515754once in a time, you were allowed to stack certain unique jewelsthen GGG realized how powerful it was and nuked itso now a great majority of unique jewels have "limited to: 1"some builds were nerfed? surewas it the end of the world? nope, people carried on and made new builds just as effectiveit's obvious you dont play poe, jeetpeople adapt, it's a clear fact of human life itselftoo bad I can't say the same thing about your kind
>>503516059
>>503516203>>503516265Chris would never betray the vision
>>503516296they literally showed 8 points in the reveal stream
>>503516265if sorc doesn't have cast speed in the starting area I will riot.
>>503515519>stash tabsyou need at least every type of stash tab, 4 premium tabs, and 12 normal tabs to play the game comfortably. this is about $120 if there's a sale. people who say otherwise haven't reached yellow maps.>map deviceyou accidentally click the map device because the default one sucks. sometimes in supporter packs there's a pay to win one with 1 portal. the last pack was $240. the one this time around is $480.>skillsmost skills have a laggy or impossible to play with default skin. the skins will cost you $15-30 each. some builds need 3 of these.>actual itemsmost streamers RMT a belt that costs $200 at league start and makes their character 5x as powerful with a single item. there's substantial proof that GGG themselves spawn them in.
who else /takingtheirtime/ and enjoying the game reading the quests? take it eaassyy
>>503515754I just open PoB, open the skill supports, check "sort by DPS" and click on the next one. It's just that simple
>>503516241I never said that everyone is the same. I assumed you were also a player who likes to play optimally. Obviously you can ignore what is optimal and do whatever shitter thing you wanna do. But you don't need the 1-gem rule to do that, you can just play the game that way by choice.The 1-gem rule is shit and needs to go.
>>503516418thats 10 you retard
>>503516497Your gripe with this is as absurd as complaining about a player being unable to equip 10 rings.I can tell you have a reddit account btw.
fuck bros i remember thinking when POE2 was first announced that it's SOOO far away still. Like i had so much time left... now its out in like 2 weekswhat the fuck man where does the time go...
>>503516594
That's very optimistic of him when there are players like onemanaleft.
>>503516462doing first playthrough with my wife so yes. gonna grab some takeout and play couch co-op on the big screen while I learn about what's changed
>>503516497>You are implying that people will use different things. What will happen is that everyone will run the same thing, whatever their buildmaker of choice says or whatever bubbles to the top on poe.ninja. There will be no variety
>>503516418instantly debunked, see >>503516594
>>503515519Feel free to ignore any post with a pepe or a spammed picture of Jonathan (guy with glasses and gray hair)it's the resident schizo jeet that has been shitting on these threads for the past weeks nonstop
>>503516426*4 quad tabs and 12 premium tabs
>jonathan and mark to give players more power>hrishi is the one shooting them downWTF????JONATHAN IS /OURGUY/ AFTER ALL?ITS ALL THE JEETS FAULT
>>503516661My gripe is, that they added a very arbitrary rule that has not been a thing in poe1 and can't be explained with logic but with "NO YOU WILL PLAY BY MY RULES, NO FUN ALLOWED"
How useful are magic items in PoE2? Will they be useless in a few levels like Diablo?
>>503516594it's 9 you blind weeb
>>503516671>3.0 was 7 years ago
>>503516594It's 8 you blind faggot, and if you mean because there are still highlighted travel lines, those do not go away when you don't have points to spend in PoE2. Ben already confirmed this on stream last night.
>>503516462I've just discovered speedrunning in poe1. trying to do the campaign as fast and optimally as possible at the same time makes it more fun and I like the idea of leaving some things to see on subsequent playthroughs. it feels like a good habit to get into from the outset.
>>503516594Oh no no no
>>503516418NO ITS 12
I hate standard cucks so much it's unreal
>>503516856>NOO PLS GET MAD AT THIS SAAAR!Why are you having a melty over it? You don't even play PoEWe already told you it'll barely make a difference>>503516895considering essences are now better regals, picking up good blues in campaign/early league could be good
>>503516856>that they added a very arbitrary ruleIt's not arbitrary at all, the reasoning has been explained and is consistent with their approach where they nerf/remove things that are just so good you can't afford to not run them.>that has not been a thing in poe1This makes it BETTER because we're getting a novel ruleset instead of playing the same game with a new coat of paint. Are you also going to complain that they're changing ascendancies and everything else that they changed? Those are also "arbitrary".
>>503516418that's a Lv25 char. the real cap is 18
>>503517157holy shit
>>503516856define "fun"
RF KEKS DEMOLISHED
>>503516726Wow great gotcha. Obviously people playing their own game, and not playing by what's optimal can do whatever, but as i said those people don't need the 1 gem rule. The rule was added for the people who do things in an optimal fashion.
PoE 1 design philosophy: RF, you can build your character around it to outtank itPoE 2 design philosophy: ramping self damage, cooldowns, uptimes, combos
>>503517120>league ends>delete character>use name againsimple as
>RF is templar exclusive skill confirmedOH NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA
will any class be able to do the absolute most challenging content in POE2 or is it one of those games if you dont roll a META spec you aren't able tobasically with enough skill can you do it
>>503517250>The rule was added for the people who do things in an optimal fashion.It was added for everyone.
>>503517313retard
>>503517250>The rule was added for the people who do things in an optimal fashion.that's the problem. You think builds repeating support gems is a common thing, which isn't. You literally have no clue about what you are talking about. And as that other anon said, it's a welcome addition.
>>503517316>will any class be able to do the absolute most challenging content in POE2yes, people have done the hardest content at points in PoE in the past using fucking auto attack
>>503517227In a game like PoE, doing powerful shit is fun. I don't play an ARPG that advertizes a power fantasy to get restricted or be weak. That's what is fun.
Another BowChad Victory
>>503517432cool. all i need to know
>>503516895you're normally only going to want to use them in act 1. items have stats from their base type which are usually important for defenses, so you don't normally want to keep rares for the whole campaign either.all attack (not spell) builds will need to replace their weapon every 6-10 levels to keep their DPS high, unless they find a really good levelling unique or an amazingly rolled rare.
>>503513969I think the cinematics are the only thing Blizzard is good at and even your pic was a good cinematic. I won't buy the expansion either way no matter how good the cinematics are, but they are great.
>it's possible to reset the atlas
>act 5 art can be used for blightthe fuck is going on in act 5? is the world blighted?
>>503517316No one can answer this with any confidence so don't take any answers as gospel.
>>503517501I will say it should be even more doable in PoE2 due to having dodge roll, they are trying to increase the level of skill based combat, but yeah already in PoE1 skill is absolutely a huge factor. Just watch Ben do any endgame encounter compared to an average player
>>503517540>tfw poe2 is satire
>>503517250>those people don't need the 1 gem ruleit makes designing builds more interesting anyway.
>>503517412You are misunderstanding. I don't want to run a build with 9x the same skill gem. But using a skill gem twice or maybe 3 times on some builds now is not an option because:>MY GAME, MY RULES
>>503517387That's literally what he implied.
>>503517692you absolute fucking retard
what does Ben think of POE2?
>>503517692gems arent class locked you absolute fucking blizzjeety baboon
>>503517753cope harder
>>503517810He pog’d out over it
>>503517810he said it's dead on arrival and will just keep playing poe1 or wow
>>503517456I don't see you whining about being unable to use multiple guard skills at once.>>503517684>MY GAME, MY RULESThe reasoning has been explained and the reasoning is sound. You just have nothing to do with your time so you invent things to crusade about. You're just doing it on the wrong website. There's a website where you can get points for painfully whiny hot takes.
>>503517456bro, you've been crying about mmo rotation since the reveal, it's a 3 button combo, obviously not a fucking wow macro type of shit, how hard can it be
>>503517460Honestly mercenary and ranger are just inherently OP. Even in PoE1 ranger basically trivializes the entire game
>>503517316GGG are industry-best at designing scaling, that's what made poe1 work better than d3 and d4 whose systems effectively turn player progression into treading water.
>>503515125>Identifying a good item feels nice.Not really. It removes me from it because I don't know if the item is good right after I beat the monster so there's no association with combat. Instead I go to town and click on Deckart Cain to tell me what my items are. It's shit design.
>>503517684>But using a skill gem twice or maybe 3 times on some builds now is not an option becauseBy those standards, that build is probably some shit you hacked together that probably cant clear campaignand so, again, what's the problem of not being able to reuse supports? You can build around that, just like any other "arbitrary" (in your own words) change GGG has doneit's not build breaking as you seem to imply it is
>>503517872post the clip thenwhere is the proofare you saying RF will be an ascendancy spell from one of the templar's ascendancies?if not kill yourself
>>503517909You can use multiple at once, you just can't activate them at the same time beause they share cooldowns.
>>503517889>>503517891getting mixed signals here
>>503518007retard
>>503518047Yeah so why are you not crying about your power fantasy being jeopardized by being unable to activate multiple at once?Don't you want to be powerful?
>>503517460they're going to have to get more accuracy than any other classes, might make them less OP.
>they will carry over all microtransactionsskeleton skins will never ever ship over
>>503510117As a huefag, the updated price matches what was in their store from day 1, and it's quite a hefty price.
>>503518139One of the ascendancies has a no-miss passive
>>503517506>a good cinematicthat's like saying any movie with expensive special effects is a good movie. blizzard could spend 1/10th as much on cinematics and make people care x10 more about the story if the writing was better.
>>503518139>he hasn't seen the deadeye passives
>>503518007>I don't know if the item is good right after I beat the monster so there's no association with combat.Well, with the rarity change now you'll see an unidentified Tier 5 item drop and know that it's going to be much better than average when you identify it
>>503518119What a weird strawman. I will not engage with this bad-faith argument.The analog would be that certain support gems have categories and a skill can only be supported by one gem from that category.
>>503517684the whole game is going to be balanced around the expectation that your character's power level will be limited by the 1-support rule... so it isn't going to be a disadvantage. >>503518257>ascendency points are free
>>503518094said it's mid and he might play
>streamer / lucky account seed will be even more important>100% tencentredeem you'r socail credit, saars
>>503518420It's not a strawman, it has the exact same merit as your argument. It's screeching about something with a sound reasoning being done one way (the reasonable, balanced, fun-enabling way) and not the other.
Hello, why wasnt Legion added?
>>503518625remember delve seeds?
>>503518661shit league mechanics don't get ported
>>503518661Why do they have to add any given mechanic?At least there's a Viper Napuatzi fight in act 3.
>>503516497Wanting to have everything and not being able to is good game design.
>>503518625how can i get a lucky account?
>>503518770pay up piggy
>>503518770>buy more supporter packs>be big streamer (and have ggg not hate you)>make the chinese gov like you
>jonathan mentions tft>starts choking a bitwtf bros?
>>503518625kill yourself 4 times to re-roll the atlas, new meta
>>503518661it's garbage like abyss
TFT CALLED OUT
>>503518834how much?
>>503518768The correct reason to do this is:>Make enough good gems so they compete for your socketsthe feels bad way is:>Make only a few good gems you wanna run on every character, and then make it so you have to fill up the rest of your sockets with filler shit
>>503518625if you suck harder, youll get some lucky seed, you faggot
>>503518936dataminers say>+1% luck for each 480$ pack
>>503518882>map has a cool sub-dungeonI liked it :(
>>503518094he said why did they show the stream 2 weeks before the game is out he wants to play it now, he was really excited about it
>>503518007>It removes me from it because I don't know if the item is good rightThis is just your headcanonMost people don't pick unid rare/magic items past the campaign and early league (to the point of filtering them except for special cases). While in the campaign, identifying a good rare still feels good.Uniques are a different case because you can tell from the art and the base which unique it is, even if unid.That said, it's changing with PoE2 since they are adding some sort of new naming system that basically lets you know which rare items will have good rolls before id'ing them and therefore which rare is worth picking up
>>503518882How will i level to 100?
you should lose exp for dying until you hit 100, so much so that you should delevel and be forced to refund a skill point on the spot. only then can poe truly be saved
>>503518340>that's like saying any movie with expensive special effects is a good movie.Not really. Blizzard cinematics have it all, from cinematography, to sound design, storytelling, character design. They unironically do a good job, it's everything around it that is complete dogshit. For example Diablo 4 has maybe 3 cinematics and they are the only thing in the campaign moving things anywhere. But they are disjointed by all of the nonsensical character talking and in engine cutscenes.
>>503519158>not playing hardcore
>>503513487that's a kilt bro
soon
>>503519387hardcore has been ruined since metamorph, don't babble at me shitterfren
>>503519305>cinematography, to sound design, storytelling, character design.yeah you left out writing which was my whole pointonly easily impressed retards care about a shiny box with nothing inside it. they are given artificial credit for spending on marketing over game design.
how much is shipping from Kiwi land?
We really dont know how good we had it under ChrisWhat the fuck
wtf has this retard been saying for the past 3 minutes
>>503518661I'm more sad that harvest isn't in
>>503519115Of course it's my headcanon like it's your headcanon that I am wrong. Identifying in Diablo 2 is dogshit. If you see an unique you already know what the drop is. If you go for something like monarch, you already know what the drop is. It simply removes me from identifying the yellows right after combat so the adrenaline rush and dopamine hit is minimized. Maybe I rolled a nice javelin on my amazon, maybe I didn't, who cares, Cain will tell me long after the rush of combat had dissipated.
>>503519541well yeah but the guys making the cinematic can only do what the writers tell them.blizzard has always had top notch cinematic guys, and their writing has been pretty shit lately
>>503519720we want him to read out all the ascendency passives but he obviously won't do that so this is the alternative.
>>503519505
>>503519952Sir, that part of the game is 30% donePay the $30
FUSING GEMS?
>>503518942>filling sockets with the same gems feels good>filling sockets with different gems feels badDo you not see how absurd and arbitrary this preference is? It's not grounded in anything other than "change bad".
>>503519541Okay I'll bite. What's wrong with the Neyrelle's cinematic?
>>503519891you're talking like you have a parasocial relationship with the company. IIRC they contract people to do cinematics for one-off work, so the only thing about their cinematics which is really blizzard is the shit writing.
>>503520128DisingenuousLet me rephrase it for you:>Feeling gems with strong things feels good>filling gems with random weak shit because the guy tells you "DON'T USE TOO MUCH STRONG THINGS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO" feels bad
>>503520245Maybe that changed over the years but they had a cinematic department way back
>Mountswe D4 soon bros
>>503520393>soonwhere were you a year ago when they added rollslop
>>503520135she is a mary sue limelight-hogging NPC in a genre that is meant to center the player, who never feels authentically in any danger and effectively has no agency or plot role except as a macguffin.
>>503520245Parasocial would mean they are my friends. They are not. But yeah, that's a good point, all i remember that blizzard cinematics were always really executed well, on a technical level, even in old games like warcraft 2
>>503520459Diablo doesnt have rolling
>>503514951It feels pointless for rares. No one is buying unidentified rares. They should just drop ID'd so you can filter the useless ones.For Uniques it 100% makes sense. The reason for it is that there can be wide ranges of rolls on the individual stats (+10% damage to +50% damage) and so this creates an inherent risk/reward system. People WILL buy unidentified uniques over poorly rolled identified ones. However, if you identify a well rolled one it will sell for much more. It is also exciting to identify a unique with wide rolls and knowing you might hit a big payday.There are also unique items where the rolls are not simply a range, bit different modifiers. An example is the item called "Watcher's Eye" that will give unique buffs while using a specific aura skill. Some of these are extremely expensive. This makes the risk/reward even higher.I believe GGG should make rares and below automatically identified, and then keep uniques unidentified.
>>503520478Don't you talk shit about muh strong girlboss>>503520628D4 has an evade ablilty, that is almost the same thing as PoE dodgeroll, just with a different animation and some other slight differences, what are you talking about?
>>50351715712 is true 2 ascendancies via sanctum2 via ulti2 via tota
>>503520291>>filling gems with random weak shitJust don't. Fill them with good shit that synergizes with your build.
>>503515942>>503516265They literally said that they all start in the same passive tree, so are they lying?
>no crafting benchAnother core fundamental part of PoE removed
>>503517891I hope Ben gets linked and pk’d irl
KZ7VK-PXITY-CV6HF
>>503515519You can easily beat the campaign and get started in the end game mapping system without spending a dime. If you're doing serious mapping, trading, crafting, or other end game activities then you really need to buy a few tabs. The current PoE2 early access pack that is $30 will give you enough points to buy the important stash tabs (especially if you do so on sale) and you will never have to spend another dollar on the game.
>>503520803About 15-20 of the nodes on your tree out of 1500+ are going to be different depending on your class. And he literally said it means that the starting nodes will be able to be a bit stronger, because they wont be the same as a class not starting in that area.
>>503520758I would love to, but sadly they are telling me the ol' "No fun allowed"
post PoE2 chase item ideas
>>503521075HOLY BASED
>No crafting benchThis is so fucking retarded
>>503521075just port headhunter
>>503520803Retard Starting class nodes are stronger, there is nothing stopping you from going to those from different class
>>503521015that is total bullshit desu. I don't appreciate that change. I know it is small and won't matter much but come on, don't change the idea that we're all on the same passive tree.
NO CRAFTING BENCH BASED JONATHAN MAKING EVERYONE PLAY RUTHLESS
>>503521075>no cow or poo statsfake and gay
>>503521075forgot linkhttps://poeitem.crunchyintheory.com/create
>Be Jonathan "Fat Faggot" Rodgers>Introduce WASD to your game because le MercenOfDuty will surely nab you the 12 year old console audience>Suddenly, almost every single melee class is absent from the early access
>>503521019No, they're telling you "fun greatly encouraged by intelligent design".The professional victim mentality will get you far in life, I envy you for being so shameless.
Magnificient seeing the IQ on Jonathan explaining their design decision
>>503521075GIGA BASEDJEET Btfo
>>503521193It already wasn't the case due to ascendancies and it adds more reasons to play different classes to fuck all that
He's just rambling
>>503521075BASED
>>503521075Retards be like "you can't even joke about things anymore" and the joke is slurs and killing minorities.
>SALVAGE YOUR LEGENDARY AFFIXES FOR YOUR GEARwait, wrong game oops
>>503521318The plan was 8, it turned into 6. Huntress is hybrid ranged/melee, and Druid is hybrid spell caster/melee. The two melee focused classes are still in. However, it is bullshit that the two classes I was most interested in are the ones who are not included. Actually does upset me.
>>503521356he generally does one massive dev process dump per interview. he's really good at his job and GGG's internal dynamic is obviously really healthy and effective.
How will download EA? Through their site or through steam?
>>503521475Monk is also caster/melee by that logic. We have 1.5 melee classes in right now.
>>503521432Jokes? This is 100% serious
>>503521075>redeemer influencerholy kek
repeating my question from the previous thread >>503521013in the live stream they said that support gems can only be one of a kind on a character.https://youtu.be/ZpIbaTXJD4g?t=1293what did they mean by this? like it is now where you can have lets say only one gmp support in a link set up or that you can only have a gmp support in all your skills?if its the latter thats kinda weird since that would encourage single spell playstyles which goes counter to what they wanted.does someone know more about this?
>>503521635holy shit kek
Noob here. One thing I disliked about POE1 was that people play it with map that covers all of the screen? Do you have to play that way to be good at the game or you can minimize it?
>>503521590I was referring to retards downstream of this sewage, you're just the sewage.
>>503521318>mfw mercenary at a baseline ends up being the most broken piece of shit and all his skills are variations of auto attacks with elemental flavouring peppered in and worse versions of Grim Dawn skills
>>503520478>she is a mary sue limelight-hogging NPC in a genre that is meant to center the playerWe are talking about the cinematics. I agree with you on this but it has nothing to do with our discussion. I already said as much here: >>503519305>it's everything around it that is complete dogshitIt in this case means the cinematic(s).
so we can play a witch with maces? is that confirmed?
>>503521756nigger
>>503521508I don't know how trying to make everyone happy makes him a good dev. Trying to make everyone happy will end up making noone happy
>>5035216901 support gem per character
omen tabs when
>>503521756you can minimize it, and also make it semi-transparent and just lines if you do want to keep it full screen.
>>503521817Yes, and Blood Mage might actually be useable with melee from what we've seen. But it's really gear dependent.
>>503521817yes, you can play any class with any weapon
>>503521761I most certainly am not Indian
>jeets immediately trying to bring up the one-support thing again for the fifth timekek, they are running out of ammo
>>503521868Ah that's nice to hear thanks!
>>503521817it's mandatory
>>503521937Holy Gemling Legionare
>>503521432>minoritieslol
>>503521965the jeetslayer sword mindbroke them
>>503521813you are making a mistake to separate the cinematics from the writing of the cinematics. I reject that framing of the discussion. badly written cinematics are just a pointless diversion of resources from game design. treating marketing as more important than the product quality is the bane of modern media.
>>503521846absolutely fucking retarded. they need to revert this asap before the beta even starts. why do this when they explicitly said they want to encourage people to use multiple spells?
Do Johnathan and Mark have different types of autism? They're both clearly autists but they act differently.
RANGER BROS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
RF will be tied to flails
>SWORDS ARE NOT DROPPING RIGHT NOW ! confirmed
>>503522213mindbroken kek
>>503521075Why are they called pajeets anyway?
Streetshitters don’t even try to shit post generator-spender, we all know you spend nothing and generate shit
>>503521690GMP can only be 1 of the like 50 supports you have on your character. And before you argue otherwise, this increases build choice because the alternative means you always use the same 5 supports on every skill, which is actually less choice.>>503522213Because there are vastly more support gems in PoE2 than PoE1 you dumb fucking nigger, you have way more options available per skill.
>>503522262RF will likely be primal when they start adding hybrid abilities/mixed abilities
>>503521556No. Spears are LITERALLY designed to be hybrid melee/ranged. Druid's primal tree contains both spells and melee shapeshifting abilities. They are genuinely hybrid. Monk is just the typical PoE "melee" where they hit shit and stuff is shot out.
>>503522252
>>503522262rf has its own ascendency
>>503521635>>503521075
>>503522262>spells will be tied to weaponsalready debunkedit's annoying because they are withholding the druid's human-form spells just because the druid isn't out, artificially withholding them from sorceresses even though both classes use staffs.
>>503521690>if its the latter thats kinda weird since that would encourage single spell playstylesNah, it encourages using diverse skills and trying to create synergy between them. This is more obvious if you check out the gems released so far. They're designed to combo off each other and to have different tools for different scenarios. The new Lightning Warp is just a perfect example. You'd use another lightning skill with various coverage/damage links, and then, since LW has cull, you don't necessarily need to bother pumping the DPS of LW and instead you can focus on cast time, applying ailments which give explode etc.
>>503522213You don't need to start your posts by introducing yourself anon, this is 4chan.
>>503522262they mentioned that in the qa.regualar weapon bases can give you skills but they can be gotten as gems too. only uniques and ascendancies can give oyu skills that you cant get anywhere else.
>>503522542Kek
>guy changes capitalization style and stops posting Jonathan to disguise his samefaggingFucking kek
>>503509685The Karui have never called me nigger... but they have shit in my streets. Back to the canoe unga bunga boy.
>>503522087>you are making a mistake to separate the cinematics from the writing of the cinematics.I am not. I am separating the cinematics from ingame cutscenes. Neyrelle is a mary sue when it's ingame cutscene. You are mixing two things together.
>>503522736Where is the spender core?It's a Generator Spender game after all
Anyone else going to play a SRS infernalist?
>>503522887read the flavour text retard and go run your lab
>>503522842fine, let's end the discussion. no point in arguing at cross-purposes, especially if you want to put "in-game cutscenes" in a different category now.
Reminder.Octavian saved PoE2
>>503522736KEKAROO!
>>503521191But there are only 6 starting zones for 12 classes. If I start Templar am I getting Sorc or Witch passives up top?
chronomancer cheese confirmed
This game supports 3440 x 1440 right?Seeing shit coming from a long ways away is nice.
>>503521191>Starting class nodes are strongeractually the strongest nodes are at the edge of the tree. >>503523234only the nodes around the starting area change depending on class.
>6 chronomancer partySo either it's going to be every RMT bot dream, either most bosses will be immune to it
>>503523428yes, ultra widescreen is really OP for poe
Jonathan confirming we can grind a specific card, but have to hunt the specific map around the Atlas.
>>503523714kino
>>503523428>ultrarretard
>>503523462But I can path to another starting areaWhat's going to be there?
>>503523110In-game cutscenes are not cinematics. They are not prerendered CGI but in-game rendered in real time, clearly done by different teams, and everything about them is shit, including basics like cinematography.
>>503523534>ZA WARUDO>drop a bunch of 30s cooldown nuke skills>rewind time>do that again>each party member does this one after another>best case scenario is by the time 6th person is done with the combo, the 1st person will be able to go againthe cheese will be unreal
>>503523714And that they can be more generous with the drops of them, because you can't just grind the same map over and over
>>503523234You’re getting fucked in the ass
>>503523793>>503523714holy shit, card farming is going to be so kino>goes back to running scried jungle valley a thousand times
>>503524060>not farming t17sngmi retard
>noo you see, I play ARPGs for the cinematography!
>>503523912I think Jonathan implied they did a pass to make sure it won't be OP for your classes. my impression of the tree design now is that you are more heavily incentivized to go for the edge of the tree ASAP. a lot of the reason to go to other character's start before was because there were always life nodes there.
>>503523869I have a 4k 32' and 77 OLED tv too poornigger.OLED tv and ultrawide are both very immersive, one for controller one for desk.Everything else is a step down.
>>503524265That's almost like saying>I play ARPGs for the combat experience
>>503523234You’re going to start at top left, where Druid and Templar will start on str/int path
>>503523534I think they stated in an interview recrently that endgame bosses will be immune and even have unique dialogue if you attempt to time freeze them.Also, currently pinnacle bosses are action speed capped as well and cannot be stopped in PoE1 anyway
Why do people want mercenaries? They always feel like shit, no exceptions. Either they are incredibly strong, or they die easily, or both. And then you have to go back to town to revive your amazing aura of super enabling spear carrying faggot.
>>503523956I don't care about the distinction and I'm the one you're arguing with. my whole point is that I'm not really interested in maximal graphical fidelity. it's effectively a waste of money spending more on visuals in service of some exec's bad fanfic
>>503523534Bosses should just have it as a debuff that activates when it's inflicted enough times, like Freeze or Electrocute. Call it "Stasis" or something.
>>503524360>not 32:9>calls others poori don't know what to tell you, poorfag
>>503507862shovelware doa slop
Crazy how strong the notables are
>>503524014>>503524060div card drops are only Q dependent anyway aren't they? so you can start looking for a given card from when you get to end game and intentionally max Q on those maps even if in poe1 you wouldn't bother juicing a low-tier map.
>>503524621It's only natural when we no longer have masteries and cluster jewels
>>503524705there is no Q in poe2
>>503524360dont remember asking for your life resumeare you gonna list your STDs too, ultrarretard?
>>503524621The only thing that's not able is you.The skill points are called "Noteable" you inbred.
NECRO IS GONE DEAD REMOVED
>>503524464There's nothing in the world I want less than stupid NPC pets. Maybe let people do it as a skill gem and a reflavored Animate Guardian.But please don't force it on me. There's nothing more lame than an adventurer wielding demigod level powers being tailed by some human retard with a bow.
>>503507862I want an MMORPG and don't want to play single player at all. Is this game for me?
>>503524518>it's effectively a waste of money spending more on visuals in service of some exec's bad fanficIt's clear you know nothing about marketing. Even if PoE 2 will be 100000x better game than D4, it will never be as successful and putting Megan Fox into ads is a part of it. You're making the mistake trying to think rationally about the way it's affecting you instead of normies. High production value cinematics work.
>>503524791lmao poor>>503524595too wide
Ghazzy is so salty lmao
>>503524940no
>Strongboxes won't be as slow and retarded as in the revealWhew
MINIONS ARE FUCKING OVERGHAZZYFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>503524982You can always segment a wide screen to have sub zones, but you can't stretch your poorfag narrow 21:9 slop
>>503525106And that's a good thing. Fuck minions
>>503525106Minionsisters, is it over?
>>503525106I'm a summon raging faggots player... what is this about minions being over?
>>503524935>There's nothing more lame than an adventurer wielding demigod level powers being tailed by some human retard with a bow.Well said.
i'm going to play BOTH poe1 and poe2 at the same time
>>503524782yeah I guess I was thinking of the +% waystone drop chance.
>>503524595lol enjoy your black bars Jon is shitting into your mouth as we speak
them giving outright a massive chunk of 20% instant life leech on the tree makes me feel like the 100% instant mana leech on the chayula monk is bait
>>503524595get shit on lmao
>>503525416I split my monitor to 21:9 for poe and the rest has either pob, wiki, or some other shit on the side. it's really glorious.Poorfag seething.
>>503525416what did he say was the max, i missed it
>>503525325SRS is infernalist node that spawns minions per mana spent on cast
>>503525325I'm sorry for your loss.
>>503525521Leech is useless. Monsters gain leech resistance with levels so eventually you're just leeching for nothing and PoE2 damage numbers are WAY more reigned in.
>In the ZiggyD interview regarding vaal orbs, they said there's a new outcome exclusive for uniques that multiplies the value of modifiers by 0.8x-1.2x (values are not final, could be higher) meaning, if you hit the 40%phys as fire you may get a 48% phys to fire cloak of flame at its current value.the fuck
>>503524941this is an aesthetics disagreement. Blizzard, to me, are basically lighting up a big sign saying "OUR GAMES ARE SHIT"but you're also broadening the discussioning to include general marketing to make yourself feel like you're scoring some kind of point, when this to me was always a discussion about what should be prioritized when telling a game's story and you've just kept changing the subject, so I'm going to stop replying to you now.
>>503525521>instaleech>stronger MoM>phys taken as on the tree>various very good max res node stuff>better lethal shade (levitation)This gives me such a strong feeling that there will be a ton of shit you need to dodge manually and that no amount of defenses (at least early on) will help.
every other post in this thread is an outright liewhy the fuck are you fags like this
>>503525778Jeets
>>503524885Imagine how boring it would be if they added Necro after showing off fucking Infernalist and Blood Mage.She might've had a chance if she was the first, like how ranger got away with old Deadeye and Pathfinder, but that ship has sailed now. It's gotta be something new.
11 more fucking days in the next few hours fuck this shit
>>503525106I can't believe they spent loads of time on an overcomplicated interface solely to try to make it so minions wouldn't disappear and reappear when weapon swapping. thank god common sense intervened.
RECORD NUMBERSget the rope ready doomtrannies
>>503524941>High production value cinematics workI would rather say "can work". You have a lot of examples of high-budget stuff flopping or being met with jeering.
>>503525521>>503525769ES has been fundamentally changed and because of the change, it wont be nearly as op as you think it is:)not gonna tell you, youll find out at the release:)
>>503525769>instaleechMonsters have leech resistance and i assume it can get to 99.9% for endgame shit>stronger MoMMana is gonna be really cancer to maintain>phys taken as on the treeThis is only good with recovery and recovery will be gimped>various very good max res node stuffThis is only good with recovery and recovery will be gimped>better lethal shade (levitation)This is only good with recovery and recovery will be gimped
Can this DM faggot just shut up
>>503525951it's joever...
I’ve lost so much hype for this game. I thought the people saying ”it’ll pick up later in endgame” would be right but it seems to not be the case.It will be rollslop all the way
>>503525552he said "uhhh what was it again? 20:9 or something?"assuming 21:9
>sells a lot of packs>said the goal was to sell a lot of packsleakbro, i kneel
>>503526154he was right about every single thing so far
>they literally didn't expect to make as much moneydoomsissies permanently obliterated
if a GTX960 can run this shit im going to be impressed
>>503526207it's so fucking over...
>>503526154why wouldnt it be that way you fucking RETARD>say obvious shit>OMG I WAS RIGHTgod you are fucking pathetic
>>503525985>Monsters have leech resistance and i assume it can get to 99.9% for endgame shitYou'll most likely be able to just bruteforce through it>Mana is gonna be really cancer to maintainNot with instaleech and having a fucking flask.>phys taken as on the tree>This is only good with recoveryLol. Phys taken as fire is fantastic, unconditionally (other than the condition of having capped fire res).>better lethal shade (levitation)>This is only good with recovery and recovery will be gimpedIt's completely agnostic of recovery and if anything, it makes up for shit recovery.
Where is this leech resistance shit coming from?
>>503525985>he thinks they'll only have 99.9% resistanceit'll be over 100% so that when you try to leech from them they leech from you instead. and only with BIS gear in every slot can you get their leech resistance down to 99.99%
>>503526336the goal of the game is not to oneshot you like poe1, but the goal is death by 1000 cuts. that can only work if recovery is limited (read: trash)
>>503525953I think if you want to spend $200M it's better to spend $100M on the game and $100M on marketing/cinematics than $200M on the game. Better = more profit. I would rather have the second option but high polish and marketing is more scalable on normies than anything else. Great enemy AI won't sell a game like a cinematic does.
>>503526474it also means that having juuust enough recovery will feel really good, which has been confirmed by playtesters saying having some life regen early makes the game much easier.
CAN YOU FAGGOTS STOP BUYING KEYSMY DAY 1 EXPERIENCE WILL BE RUINED BY FUCKING TOURISTS
God bless Jonathan. I'd hug him
>>503524940ugh I wish I was the floor
>>503526574Recovery is a stat that either breaks the game by being too good or is not good enough and worthless.There is no "Just enough", sadly
>>503513189Well the spectres gotta do something right?
The core of the doomsissying over the past half decade is that GGG keeps making the game too hard. Even now it's just "WOW who wants to DODGE attacks?? Leech won't even work, recovery is dead!!"It's very clearly a shitter who has just been assmad for years.
>>503526641are you trying to tell me you dont have access to the high priority queue on dedicated servers?
>>503526554how much would it cost to put Blizzard's existing writing staff on a rocket and fire them into the sun? they just got owned by a fat Kiwi who has 500 other things to do.
>>503524940I wish I was that bed
HOLY FUCK THE HIT DETERMINES THE DOT WITH MAGNITUDE
We could have been fucking playing already if the WHALES didn't absolutely need to have their fucking hats in PoE2. FUCK YOU WHALES!!!!!!
>>503526820HAMMER OF THE GODSBLEED
>>503526820flameblast ignite LETS GO
>>503526243it's pretty must guaranteed that they have rewritten a lot of the older engine code they were afraid to touch during PoE updatesit's probably more optimized that PoE1 and uses newer APIsalso we haven't seen yet how it looks at minimum graphics
Leakerbro was right about it all i am despairing
>>503526792>they just got owned by a fat Kiwi who has 500 other things to do.D4 made over half a billion in 5 days and a billion in a year so Blizzard's shit writers are not going anywhere.
>>503526743there's kraut who was always terrible at poeand there is another tranny that has the "niGGGer" spam identifierthat guy is a mad harvestranny through and through
>tfw I have to rewatch the part of the interview about how the "salvage bench" is going to work because my brain didn't work well enough to understand what was being said
>>503526554I think "spend $100m on cinematic" is a completely absurd business decision if your budget is 200m and no exec would greenlight that, particularly when it's a game-as-a-service game. Also I just don't think a good cinematic sells the game on its own.I loved the Dawn of war 2 cinematic and never played it, for example.
>PoE2 Best game ever made.>B-but [insert retarded complaint here]Gas. Now.
>Piles of minion QoL >Life stacking regen aura on the tree for allies>Blood mage confirmed opWe are so fucking back
>>503527046>and there is another tranny that has the "niGGGer" spam identifierI know of at least 5 different people here that use it
>>503527176POORTANIC incoming>b-but muh skilled comb-Poortanic.
The hypetrain is coming for all the faggots. Leakbro got everything right, even the point about ggg trying to just sell you a box got confirmed.
does mercenary only have on type of weapon?
>>503527273>>>/v/
>>503527236your life is doubled from the life you pick up
>>503527002and none of that money is going to go back into making good games or fixing Blizzard's systemic problems, so you may as well be describing the profitability of an investment bank.
>>503527236>spectre and zombies dont have persistent tagNot so fast summoner bro
>>503527347jeet, why do you even bother asking these retarded questions when you already know you can use any weapon as in PoE1?
>>503527347he can use any weapon
>>503527347Each class has one dedicated weapon type but can use others(xbow) too
>>503527347No. Merc can use any weapon like any class. Classes aren't tied to weapons at all. You can be a merc and use a bow even. Doesn't have to be crossbow.
>>503527347No, but if you want to shoot grenades you have to use a gun
broooo you don't get it, monk only has 3 builds because it can ONLY use quarterstaves!!
>there are going to be three versions of each starting area:>one per class that starts there (for a total of two)>one for when your class DOESN'T start theremental
>replying to jeet newflag falseflag bait
>>503527347you can use attachments for grenades but its xbow only
The type of audience ggg wanted to catch with poe2 will be turned off massively if they fall for the early access scam and are presented with an unifnished story camapign for who knows how many months.>b-but le stoy is only le tutorial haha!The audience they want to reach doesn't give a fuck. The campaign is the game. Everything after is nolifers and poorfags coping in a hamsterwheel.
Just saw on Ghazzy Q&A that they decided to give every class a unique passive tree? Kinda goes against their original design philosophy?
>>503527945retard
>>503527390Spectre respawns as confirmed by witch showcase on the channel, but don't know if it will stay in your skill menu forever until you get a new one thats how I assume it works.
>>503527856the 3rd act probably has a cliffhanger, maybe even the "I am ready" cinematic.
>>503527812>ESLjeet completely misundertood what Jonathan saidnot surprising
>>503527078One place you sell for gold now and one place you "sell" for splinters
>>503527945oh shit really? damn post the clip where they say that man
>>503527372
>>503528023I just rewatched that part of the interview. the third version is so they can put powerful stuff in the starting areas of each class without worrying about every adjacent class feeling they have to path there.
Doombro wonIt's all right
>>503527945>Just saw on Ghazzy Q&A that they decided to give every class a unique passive tree? Kinda goes against their original design philosophy?It's not that complicatedThe starting area for each class don't exisit at all for the other classes, that it the way to think about it. Just ignore that starting part if you are another class.As opposed to POE1 where you want to grab those nodes for other classes sometimes as they are juicyNow they are even MORE juicy but you can't get them at all.
>>503527856>unifnished story camapignFrom what I'm seeing, the story will most likely be time travelling with Doryani's tech to stop the end of the world.The missing 3 acts probably don't matter for being able to achieve the campaign's conclusion, it's probably just different eras where you need to kill some bad man so he doesn't end the universe.
>>503528357sad little boy starved for attention
Do we know if there will be seamless controller/kb&m? With WASD, dodge rolling and multiple skills I'm simply not dextrous enough for keyboard, I fried my brain in my youth. Gonna need to use a controller I think.
>>503528523Retard
>>503528108no disrespect
>>503528703retard
>>503528703they are working on it jonathan said today, lots of people are asking for it
>>503528703dodge roll for spacewasd for movementq + e + 1/2/3/4/5 for skillsm1, m2, middle mouse for skills. gaming mouse means another 2 at minimum. Pretty sure you'll be fine, even if WASD carries consolenigger stink due and Jonathan should kill himself
>>503527078I got you bro.Vendor - Sell items for goldDisenchantment vendor - Sell items for transmute/regal shardsSalvage bench - Salvage quality items for whetstones/armor scraps, salvage socketed items for orb to add sockets to items.
Apparently you can buy Valdo's Puzzlebox for everyone interestedhttps://puzzlepotato.com/products/tesla-boxWhen I heard streamers take hours to solve one, I kind of got interested. Didn't watch anything to avoid spoilers. Hmm but 63 bucks..?
>>503528023Ironic calling someone an ESLjeet, because that's literally fucking EXACTLY what Jonathan said. There are 2 versions of the starting area for each of the classes there, and a 3rd version for every other class.
>>503528948riiight so presumably runes to put in the sockets just have to be found as drops then? you'll be able to find enough resist runes to fix those problems? or did they not say anything about where you get runes?
>>503529040>reddit spacingholy kill yourself faggotno one cares
>>503529227They didn't say, presumably they will drop commonly as they're supposed to be the crafting bench replacement. Do note that you cannot unsocket them, and you cannot socket over them, so they are permanent choices.
>>503528868Well if it is coming eventually then that's all good. Cheers>>503528898Nah, I literally can't lol. Why I stopped playing Guild Wars 2 even though I enjoyed it. Could probably just play like poe1 depends how hard they went in on WASD though.
>>503529040The solution is not spending 60 bucks on something completely useless.
>>503528883>I wonder if we could normalize "Diablo-like" for ARPGs that follow the Diablo formula....Just what did that fat retard mean by that? Did he shit his pants when he saw the POE2 reveal? And now, his biggest play is to force the term "Diablo-like" onto POE?
Can we acknowledge the fact that there is NO CRAFTING BENCH in PoE2?
>>503529398I bought one to shitpost with during family holidays/birthdays etc
>>503529427that's exactly what happened, yes
>>503529467Is that supposed to be bad?
What is corruption anyway?
>>503529398>you dont understand. I NEED TO CONSUME
>end game confirmed to be 1 button buildslol no wonder they refuse to show anything besides the first 20 hours
>>503529258>4chan spacingholy shit, I KNEEL.
>>503529467retard benchie
>>503529574based, i want to zoom
kek
>>503529574good thing im a casualGOD only playing 19 hours
>>503529526>quirky faggot that your family doesn't like brought the puzzle boxtell your vtubers about it nigger
>>503528703>>503528898Controls are totally fucked for controller and PC.>WASD movement>Space for dodgeroll>1+2 for Life/Mana Flask>Q+E for 2 skills>Left/Right mouse button for 2 skills>Have to find 5 more buttonsCapslock and shift possibly, or ctrl + q and e, but still I think it is gonna be hard to play.
>>503529526Frivolous purchases are more excusable when you do them for others.
>>503529651i kneel for our queen
>>503529736i've got nephews that will like it, one is obsessed with rubiks cubes
>>503529651ts_larry...
>>503527856People are more forgiving of Early Access shit than ever before in the history of gaming.When they clear Act 3 and the notice drops explaining how it goes from there, they're more likely to go>Wait, it doesn't just end? We get NG+ while we wait for the full game? Neat!
>>503529854nobody cares buy a supporter pack instead
>Try to play other games to distract myself until poo2 electric boogaloo>Get bored after 30-60 minutesBros I just wanna play PoE 2....
>>503529776>move with mouse>cast with left hand (qwerty or something)
>jeet singlehandledly keeping discussion alive instead of killing itkek
>>503529467we are the crafting bench, you craft the runes the gear all of that shit
>poe1picrel>poe2still picrel. Pastal la vista.
>>503529985I have
>>503529324>you cannot unsocket them, and you cannot socket over themoof, but probably the right decison. Rishi has good ideas. I guess as you can socket any item with the right currency it's just a matter of only socketing items you're going to hang onto for a while.
>>503530007I am not interested in mouse movement anymore. I got RSI on my right hand from years of PC use + Vibrating tools at work. I use a wrist brace while playing PoE and holding down left click to move still causes me discomfort after a while. My left wrist is totally fine. I've tried bounding movement to Q but it is awkward for me.
>>503529776Tab is one option, as is Ctrl. Middle mouse can be a movement ability.
>>503529574this is good... but also bad depending on how I want to shitpost.
>>503529776sis, your mouse side buttons?
how I look when the dogshit that was poe 2 caused my favorite game poe 1 to have a 7 month league
>>503530297I have two of them which are forward/back so those are possible but I am trying to assume no gamer mouse here.
kys mobilenigger
>>503529776I am taking my spacebar off and using non-MMO 11 button mouse, all just in case I for some reason want to make a 12 button build. >>503529651how is she so perfect
>>503528868>they are working on it jonathan said today, lots of people are asking for itThey are only working on it? Can I even use a controller on PC? My hype for the game just dropped to a zero.
>>503530407how will you look when they extend it by another 2 month?
>>503529467the bench was one of the biggest noob-filters in the game, and for once I fully sympathized. that ridiculous list of hundreds of mods was painful to use, and having to find crafting recipes meant you couldn't even really ignore it.
BRUTAL TRVKE
>>503530407how will you look when poe 2 kills your favorite game poe 1?
>>503530692No, dude. You can use a controller right now but you basically have to choose in the main menu which you use. Seamless means I can use a controller for gameplay and then switch to mouse for crafting/inventory management then go back to controller. Right now you have to choose, but they better have that shit ready for EA.One of the best things about D4 is playing with controller then using my mouse for inventory shit.
>>503529651Wow, that looks like a meme that I'd expect to be made by an autistic man.How surprising that it was made by a girl.
>>503530089anon the key
>>503531004it's half of a key that's already been redeemed
>>503530874weird that I can have two keyboards and two mice connected at once but controllers on PC are such massive premadonnas.
>>503531037REDEEMED!?
>>503530793>d4 player>is a retarded eslthis shit writes itself
>>503530407When I first saw POO2 stuff months ago I thought I'd just keep playing POE1 and that it will be rollslop. I absolutely hated the showcased stuff and the tasteless crone boss.But now that I have seen more and I realize that the game is just a grand overhaul mod for POE1, I'm pretty confident it'll just take over as the main game for me.Having a whole new set of rules and things to play with is more novelty than any fresh league can bring.
>>503530874Yeah I know, mouse is nice for inventory. But I used keyboard for typing in D4 primarily, can you at least do that or if you pick a controller do you have to do absolutely everything with a controller, even typing?
>>503530793They are rightLegit half of the garbage in PoE 2 is directly copied from d4
>>503531334I don't know about typing. I just know that currently in PoE you can only choose what control scheme you wanna use from the main menu but they want it to be seamless.
>>503531037BLOODY BASTARD BENCHOD
Half of PoE 2 is copied from Diablo 4, the other half is copied from Diablo 3.
>>503531037why you redeem you bloody bastard bitch
>>503528883Rod can play his diablolike, meanwhile I'll be playing ARPG in just two weeks.
>>503531359>Runes>Mounts>Evade/Dodgeroll>Pineapple Bosses
>>503531504>and why that is a good thing (1/300)
did i understand him right, jonathan said they'll recycle old content like blight as 'new' league content for poe2
>>503529040you won't get the PoE theme one. also the streamers only solved it because cheating by reading their chat. there's one part where it's impossible to know what to do without getting hints. if you go in totally blind it will take you weeks to solve (obviously not constantly working one it)
>>503531589The mount is exclusive to the third Ranger ascendancy.
>>503531504zamn they got expedish in diablo 3?maybe i should try that game
yeah PoE2 copied breach, ritual, expedition, delirium, the atlas, the skill gem slot system and xbows from D4 alright
>>503531589>salvage affixes for crafting>100 (((((((((OPTIONAL)))))))))) (required) bosses every league
Diablo 1+2: ARPGDiablo 3: FaggotlikeDiablo 4: TrannylikePoE: EVElikePoE 2: Sloplike
I legitimately don't care about which billion dollar corporation makes what game, but why exactly is Blizzard so insecure about PoE? They go out of their way to schedule their own streams on the same day, release their seasons at similar times, and I've HEARD, but cannot confirm, that they basically refuse to talk about the game in office and don't want interviewers talking about it though I believe some have slipped in a few questions.It just feels like Blizzard has a huge chip on their shoulder about PoE even though D4 is a massive success and made them billions of dollars and continues to make money through MTX and expansions. Why do they care?
>>503531630>'new' league content No, just as content period. New leagues will be new leagues, but an update could be a new league and also blight at the same time.
>>503531712watch the todays interview
>>503531871Diablo 1 is a walking and doorway simulator (it is fun).
>>503531932What's a blight? I have not played PoE.
DOOMTRANNIES ARE COPING SO HARD
>>503532030Tower defense gameplay mechanic
>>503531919They're just malding that no one wants their garbage anymore. The 6 months post Reaper of Souls release was the only time Diablo has been good in the last 12 years. The other 11.5 years it has been abominable trash. PoE has been good for 8 of the last 12 years.
I am disappointed that PoE2 didn't make at least one new mechanic for their end game and all of them are just taken from PoE1. I knew most would be, but I was hoping for one new thing, but so far we got Sanctum, Ultimatum, Breach, Expedition, Delirium, Ritual, Strongboxes, Shrines, etc. Couldn't we have gotten one new thing?
i have 2300 points get off my dick poe2 won
>>503532259shut up faggot
>>503532313Anon, there is no reason to get personnel...
can u faggots get more images if ur gunna spam anime shitseeing the exact same things every thread is a bit much
>>503532259No like civ map atlas señor?
>>503532259We got a new atlas and new pinnacle boss
>>503510772Perandus
>>503532457>>503532546I guess that is kinda new? I meant league mechanics and shit. I just think it is weird that literally everything is from PoE1, some more remixed than others. Ultimatum looks pretty different, Sanctum is similar, Breach/Expedition/Delirium look the same.
>>503531919They're bitter about getting kicked out of China, so they're getting back at them by trying to subvert Tencent's growing presence in the ARPG space.>>503532259The release really doesn't seem like the time to experiment like that. Better stick to what works and focus on stuff like the balance and bugs.
>>503532259Bro if they add actual mechanics to a Ruthless Mode video game the playerbase would be 0 in a month.
>>503532602We'll get some new stuff later, it's easier to port in old stuff while they still have actual base game PoE2 stuff to work on, like the rest of the acts and classes and skills etc.
Monk ascendancies look so ass. What the fuck are you supposed to do with that class?
@everyoneretard
>>503532259let them finish the base game before complaining retard
>>503532728The chaos monk with mom int / mana / es stacking could be goodThe other one kinda mid, but we dont know all the nodes so whos to say
>>503532602Sanctum looks more different to me than UltimatumAll room mechanics seem changed
>>503532696kek, ruthless mode barely has existing mechanics let alone new ones.
End of thread reminder that the campaign will take 50 hours and you MUST complete it every 3 months, and whenever you make a new character. You can't play the game without doing this.
>>503507862now that we have a civ map and resource collection, harder zones, and passive buff "charms", why not have a food and rest system as well? Make camp in the atlas and eat some monster meat for long term temporary buffs
>>503532868I like the elemental one, the crit wild strike node seems fun
>>503532935ill eat your meat
>>503532927You didnt include the 90 "optional" bosses which give you stats. Every league
>>503532927>>503533105it filters literal sissies like you so im glad
>>503533164>master of my lonely domainloser
>>503532927the only question is how much faster than Neon's time of 5 hours the playerbase is going to get acts 1-3 in the first week.
>>503533105>Speedrun the main story>Come back and one-shot the powerup bosses once doneEZ
>>503533252keep being filtered d4sissy
>>503533105Literally nobody that actually plays poe has an issue with thisGo play D4 lmao
>>503530793PoE did?
>>503533310>its fine to spend hours doing this every league foreverLmao, lol even
>>503533105>skips all but the essential bosses>sticks runes granting the stats relevant into sockets in my itemssee you in maps beeeeeyaaaaatch
retards dont know that you get these perma buffs from map bosses too lmfaod4 sissies losing
>>503533310Are you retarded? Just cause devs refused to budge on it and people stopped complaining as a result doesnt mean we enjoy doing the campaign for every new character
>>503533402I keep forgetting that D4 content isn't even procedurally generated in any meaningful way.
>>503533105you've never played poe and it shows, jeet
>>503533524its fucking hysterical
>>503533642>4 hour campaignturns into>10 hour campaign + 3 hours of boss farming
>>503533105>you didnt include the 116 "optional" map completions which give you atlas tree points. Every league
>>503533704you could literally skip all these optional ones and just farm bosses in maps to get the buffs
>>503532935>Gather wood ( there are 10 different types of wood )>Gather stones ( there are 8 different types of mineral )>Hunt beasts and they give you fur and meatPoE 2 is my favorite MMO now
>503533720this is embarrassing
>>503533765that's going to be the way speedrunners shorten their campaign times. a whole metagame of refining exactly what is efficient to do and what isn't awaits.
>>503532285ihave 2405 im a better human being than you
>>503533969good, im not even gonna sweat it is i miss some bosses if i can literally get the buffs from them in maps
>>503532285points of what?
I heard the campaign is 100 hours long bros and we have to complete it twice each league...............
>>503534043what the fuck is that
>>503534091My boy Patrick Mahomes!
I heard that if you don't explore every area fully you'll be blocked from making it to maps...
>>503534296i explored every area of your mum fully last night
>>503534091Mutt del americano
>>503534034it removes the pressure to 100% the campaign on first playthrough "to get the full experience", I can just leave side content for subsequent leagues. what was missing was the info from the interview about using runes to fix our gear. better than feeling like I am obliged to kill The King In The Mists in act 1 because he gives a spirit bonus, like all the gods in part 2 of the poe1 campaign.
bros this weekand then anotherand then a day of constant crashes on early access launchand then maybe we can finally play the game
>>503534653i think killing some bosses will be fine and will help out if you actually manage to stumble upon them but i wont feel pressured to do every single one atleast
>tfw you are imprisoned in the campaign mines for 1000 hours until you can dodgeroll enough boss attacks
areas containing bosses actually have an icon which tells you what kind of a bonus you can get for killing them, so if the bonus isnt too relevant to your build, you can just skip it
>>503534502>explore mumwere you trying to get ideas to make your own homecoming mum?
>>503531359really? Like what?
any key gifters?
Why the fuck can't you flicker with swords?
>>503535007Use the quarterstaff chud
>>503535007swords are really heavy in real life bro
only ten more workies before poe 2 launch
>>503535002maybe
>>503535007>no more 11link spiritbladesim not gunna make it, fellow flickerGODS...
>>503533815legit would be kino. Imagine you are progressing further and further in your atlas but your character gets these penalties if you don't rest so you have to make base camp with your bros every once in a while before continuing on
i hate that nigger ghazzytv he didnt ask my question i wanted to be asked just youtube faggot circle jerk questions Sweden should be nuked
i wish i had wriends i could gify me two keys too ...
>>503535198cachibamynibba@gmail.comIf you are willing
>>503535374>ghazzy>looks like some turkish cockroach>"swedish"like a clockwork
>>503535253Some people would call it kinoSome people would call it unnecessary friction
>>503535007I like to flick my sword too, but I don't mind this change as long as swords also get cool skills.A sweep with built-in movement would go hard.>>503535253But you're not actually traveling on foot. You're teleporting from and to Doryani's ziggurat.
>>503535374>ggg developed a whole interface to give summoners the ability to decide which minions would disappear when they weapon swapped, but cut itI have no idea how I feel about this
>>503535574He is half swedish quarter german quarter persian
one thngs poe's lack is cow level or public chat room (where all players are lined up) type thing that d2 had. you could show off two golden grandfathers or windforce in cowlevel to 8 other players and be best performing grinder there. there is none of that in poe it's just solo grind and no place to show of the unique item that everybody hunts
>>503535717>quarter germangerman german or german from turkey?
>>503535798oh ill show you off something
>>503535826Well id assume german german if he is listing his ethnicities and he is quarter turkish why would he say german just cause they moved to germany
>>503531919blizz has always been insecure as fuck.this is nothing new
so why do Gwennen, Rog, Tujen and Dannig all look the same after all these years?is GGG allergic to not reusing assets? I guess Tencent is unfluencing them
>>503535826germanics are turkic in origin its been proven
>>503536260Maybe there's a reason they aren't aged up. Maybe it has to do with the reason Alva is part of the story, and Doryani and Viper Napuatzi are around
>>503535654>>503535603make it so you travel on foot and if you die you start over at your last waystone
>>503531683You just make it sound even better. Yeah, losing the poe theme by getting the "tesla" one would suck, but I gotta try one of these before I go out.
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>>503534091The prime example of a so-called "mutt". Modern, mixed-race American.
>>503535654>>503536636we need a treadmill interaction, so you have to physically walk a long enough distance to get to your destinationfucking mazed retards
>2 games>2 campaigns>2 flasks>2 flops>1 support>4 delays>0 hair>0 swords>30 dollars>10 centrepeat after mepoopofexcrement2
>>503536786Jogging through The Beast sounds like an experience.
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>>503522290It's a common name like Tyrone
>>503536954nice try, that's the poe 1 thread
>>503536954this is poe2g not poeg
>>503533274So why it's even required if it's boring easy content where you're oneshotting bosses?
>>503537315diablo 2 still has the best system. each ladder reset campaign needs to be done, but it takes few hours for veteran players and is actually quite fun to grind the levels quicklymassive campaign with 6 acts takes like in poe1 takes so much time 90% of playerbase quit after playing it thru once
Is it true EA will launch without the following 2H weapons: Swords, Spear, Great Axes, or Scythes?
im about to fucking filter out swords
>>503537315Some of the powerups give permanent spirit bonuses, which you will likely want to get as you go through the campaign. One per act. There are additionally things that give permanent bonus resists as an example, which you may not need during the campaign but will allow for more efficient gearing in the endgame, so you pick them up then.
During playtests, Monk and Warrior were the top 2 classes in terms of player satisfaction.Meleechads eating good.
>503536895mentally ill
>>503539453Can you play monk unarmed? I don't want to swing a stick around.
>>503539228I get it but why do you have to do it every league if you've already done it once? What's the point in oneshotting a boss or speedrunning easy campaign? I want to play the game and not do boring chores.
>>503539889They do have some unarmed skills, I could see their 3rd ascendancy maybe doing some unarmed stuff. Or maybe Facebreakers still exist
>>503539889Theres fuck all unarmed skills for now
>>503539990Facebreakers are gonna be a unique that lets you use mace/slam skills while unarmed
>>503539969I assume the main reason they are there is in the same vein as Elden Ring being open world. If a new player who sucks at the game is getting walled by a boss, they could go back and get some bonuses from these optional bosses that may push them over being able to do the boss. For veterans, it's just your typical thing on the list of making a new character, like doing all the optional side quests for passive skills in PoE1.
Ignite has the most vectors of scaling >Base damage>Crit damage / crit bonus>Increased and more ele damage mods>Ignite effect (straight up does same shit as dot multi)>Ignite burns faster>Double and triple damage (unlike poe1)>Curse for -resI dont think you can lose playing life stacking blood witch Or if some skill shows up that requires ignite with all damage, infernalist
>>503540223>If a new player who sucks at the game is getting walled by a bossIf someone has already done the campaign they are not a new player.
>>503540525I'm talking about being walled by a campaign boss, you aren't being walled by a boss if you aren't in the campaign.
>>503540223A fresh player that is completely new to poe1 would get walled around level 50, if not earlier
good morning sistersgot myself a new mouse yesterdayrazor cobrafeels soooooo nice and lightweight
>>503540630From what I've been told, non-PoE players as recently as the event in LA 2 weeks ago couldn't even kill the act 2 boss
>>503540694>razor cobrawhat were you using before?
>>503540610If I finish a campaign why do I have to redo it the next league?
>>503540921Why do you have to do anything next league? Why even play the game?
>>503540860steelseries rival frengood mouseused it for a couple of yearsswitched because the sticky thing on the bottom was coming off and scraping along me mousemat which was annoying and I have other razer stuff so its nice to have a matching mouse now too
>>503540996Because it's fun and challenging, I am actually playing the game. Doing the same campaign I've already done is just speeding through braindead content. There is no point to it other than wasting my time. If I am wasting my time, I want to waste it on challenging content I enjoy.
>>503541258D4 proved to me that starting at end game content sucks and actually makes the game feel shallow and boring. I think it is as good thing you have to do the campaign again each league... on your first character. I feel like waypoints should be unlocked account wide on a league and that would make speeding through the campaign easier. Only issue I have with PoE2's campaign so far is the idea of having to kill 50 bosses because there is no way it is not relevant to basically every character to do it. That sounds like it sucks ass.
>>503541258The campaign is where you build your character and have your build starting to come together, I literally can't understand how people don't enjoy it as a core part of progression. Also, they are trying to make the PoE2 campaign fun and challenging, so maybe try actually playing it first.
>>503541429You don't, because not every optional boss give permanent character bonuses. A lot of them just give one time item rewards, that are more geared towards being useful while going through the campaign.
anticampaignposters are retarded
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>>503541842the campaign is fun (including the poe1 campaign). feeling like its a checklist of jobs to do isn't. trying to speedrun it competantly (fastest time, fewest deaths) is the solution.