Christmas Fluff Edition>Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/>Origins Portrait Rips:https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA>Origins Font Fixes:https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602(EO1)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609(EO2)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653(EO3)>EO3 "Liberating" ModPC:https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zipPC hair version:https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zipSwitch:https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8Switch hair version:https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeHEdited portraits:https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip>Beginner's Guide to the Series:https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF>Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB>Nexus balance patch mod:https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg>Document containing some resources and informationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/Previous thread: >>503967875
post rare hexers
post cute yggs
OHOHOHOHOHOHO
I finally managed to save scum a Dragonbane in 1HD, thank god for the save function, letting me retry killing the dragons at different turns until I got the scales. >it can be equipped by every classFuck
>>505692413Man I love big tits but those are too big. Princesses should be tall, slender and dainty.
>>505694968It's OK when purple does it
what happened last thread? Who was that anon who created the other thread? And why did another one make a thread in v?
>>505695647Usual thread maker here, sorry about all that, probably wouldn't have happened if I wasn't asleep when new thread time came around
>ded
Anyone know by how much does the EO1 DS Drop Rate Fixer patch increases the drop rate percentage?
EO4 replay:???, Kibagami/dancer, Logre/bushi???, Wufan/medicsend help what do i do
>>505700349I guess the question is what are you going to be running for the first 2/3 of the game???
>>505700065Just hack the items in if you’re gonna cheat anyway.
>>505700687i was going to level them all up to 99, retire and rest them down to 1, subclass them then start a new game
>>505701562>retireWhy would you want to steamroll an already easy game with "lvl1" characters that have like 18sp and +10 to every stat?
>>505701986so what, fort/dancer and maybe runemaster/bushi for the other two slots? i never used a nightseeker before either and not sure how they would do in the backrow
>>505702340>fortCompletely unnecessary in IV, especially if you have both an arcanist and a nightseeker (now would be a good time to use them, good synergy with Wufan). Nightseeker/bushi should go in the front row. For backline you have your choice of Runemaster/bushi or imperial for elemental damage or Sniper/bushi.
>>505704885remove fang
>>505705741I have never and likely will never use her portrait. I've used the other three but never hers.
>>505706117Titty 5head and old man I expect, but I'm surprised to hear that someone used dreads
>>505673916>>505694684Going by the scrapped races and landmarks on the "world map" for lack of a better world, I'd bet they had something more involved in the initial stages
>>505706117shamefur
>>505704885add fang
>>505707501Dread guy has a nice pose for his second portrait introduced in U2. >>505708197For what it's worth I do really love this particular picture of her
>>505705741I have never not used her.
>>505708680Same, I didn't even know other war magus portraits existed.
>>505708197that's a comfy looking corpse
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125108934
I played the first one and enjoyed it so I've decided to play the second one. Anything I should know before I fuck up?
>>505711721>She was then brutally beaten to death for using hexes to her advantage
Looks like Class of Heroes 3 is getting a remaster, guess the 1+2 combo did well enough. I bought the remaster of the first two but I couldn't get into 1, it was too archaic and simple. I sort of got into 2 but I ended up encountering a bug that deleted 4 of my main party members so I ended up putting it down. Does anyone know if 3 is any better?
>>505713026What's your team?
>>505702715>Completely unnecessary in IVYeah but the flat. THE FUCKING FLAT
>>505713653Ronin, Survivalist, Protector, Medic and Alchemist so far.
>>505714690I'd tell you to swap surv for a gunner and medic for a war magus because I love that class so much but it's not neccesary
>>505714690Be a man and run with Survivalist, damned be the consequences of using the most nerfed class
>>505715208I named the Survivalist after my pet cat, we have to bring him.
>>505713026All the npcs are getting a new dialogues each time you're unlocking a new floorThey're soulful
>>505715378why not name a cat after your pet cat and bring him?
>>505687683
>>505716832If we decide to get a cat we will have to come up with a new name for him.First objective is complete, no deaths and everybody made it to level 2. Still haven't spent any skill points other than 2 on the medic to unlock cure.
>>505717935So this dude is telling me we may want to form new teams. We can have a first team for exploring and then more specialized teams for gathering and so forth. If memory serves me from my experience playing the first one, only certain classes could gather from certain nodes. So we're going to have to remember his advice later when we start actually gathering stuff I guess. I'm going to save it here, and pick this run up again tomorrow. Have a good night everybody.
>>505725353>dude
>>505727683Dudette, sorry
>>505725353>EO2, the most exp stingy game in the series, encourages you to make multiple teams Sabotage, i cant believe it
>>505734728And the gathering node ambushes being harder than regular fights on that floor is the cherry on top.
>>505584919>>505586091Bit late, but thank you for the detailed explanation. The classes sound quite interesting
>Tokyo gets completely buried.>Ontario apparently still going on strong a millenom later.How did the canucks do it?
>>505713490>Class of Heroes 3 is getting a remasterneat, I liked 2 no idea what the changes to 3 are though
>>505586091 man I loved duelist in vfd, aside from being fun mechanically the animations were top tierI used the masked samurai portrait/model for mine and it felt like chuunibyou Kaiba
I wish Yggdroid could use guns or something
>>505744467ur mom is a gun
REGAL RADIANCE
I recall Untold's Claret Hollows being a tough and labyrinthine stratum with warp mazes that were extensive but felt reasonable I'm for the first time experiencing the original version, what the fuck. I can practically hear the devs snickering behind my screen. >well I guess I've mapped 90% of floor 26, those repetitive candelabra loops were kinda lame>explore one of two remaining one way paths, opens to a room>with 4 adjacent warps so that you can guess some moreI'm being mocked
>>505755737yeah eo1's claret is very much a classic wizardry map that hates you and hates you for trying to play it
>>505755737next floor is worse, hope you like pitfalls with no markings
>>505744467Ygg/Bucc could, right? It’s a good combo too
>>505756118I went from level 61 to 67 to find the exit of the very first floor of the stratum and to 68 from my idiotic compulsion to explore everything. That's just silly.
Eo2 playthrough anon here.I was thinking about the advise for having more teams and stuff, so I've decided we will get a blonde shooter girl, and we will also add a war mage. However we need names and the only way to do this is first come first serve and potentially a dubz get if I have to veto so much crap. I will keep going. We are on floor 1, i only spent 2 skill points and now we are adding two new members to our team... i want to play through the entirety of the game with the thread's help.
>>505760884So say something for either character names and pick the job or whatever. Like war mage Ken. And if you picked Ken war mage we'll figure out the portrait, there's only 4 you can probably tell me which one, but then it's like for blondie gun girl, you'll need dubzIf you grab gun girl first, the only rule is she must have a female or gender ambitious name. You can't name her Cock Slayer Supreme because of like I think it's 8 characters and kinda crap like that, also I hold supreme veto and we won't use the same name 2 times.
>>505761486We will either win or give up.
>>505761486>dubz>in /vg/anon...Also, I cannot understand the way you're phrasing your idea. It reads like you're either drunk/sleepy, unable to think about what you're writing at all, or extremely esl.
>>505761486I assume you only need names for the classes you don’t have yetMake a Dark Hunter (pink drills), call her Trixie
>>505700927I just want the exact rates famalan
>>505713026>>505714690You should know that EO2 has speed modifiers for different weapon types that are more important than the actual AGI stat, e.g. whips have the highest modifier so a Dark Hunter with a whip is pretty much guaranteed to always move first. This makes War Magi strictly better than Medics in terms of healing since they can equip swords, which have a much better speed modifier than staffs.
>>505761486>>505763887 (me)Might as well roll for gun girl too, while I’m hereIf dubs, call her Sasha
I know there is special dialog if you solo Logre in EO4 but what about the others?
>>505760884>>505761486Make a Troubadour called Freddy
>>505771647The games randomly acknowledge solo characters, it's pretty oddfor example in nexus, the very first world map fishing quest is different with only one character
well i finished my 3 bushi run after like 10 years
>>505774734Good job, what's the plan for your next run?
>>505775636i dont think there will be one anytime soonstill got the untolds to replay
3DS HD remasters when
I was gone an entire month grinding up my reborn team so this is understandable
>>505778372>When you die, it best be honorably and naked
>>505778372I like when games comment on stuff like thatDungeon Travellers 2 had a ton of little events, I benched one girl for a bit while training others and she got all tsundere on me when I brought her back onto the team
>>505779087while neat and etrian does do this kind of thing occasionally (See >>505774719)I'm unfortunately pretty sure she just always says this after you reach the 14th floor
>>505778372god damn napier is so hot
>>505783141that's not her name you fucking coomer
>>505783141for me its her younger sister
using one of the few coupons ive acquired the latest version of the firmware
>>505796857man the coupons were the best thing they added in 3. I don't mind grinding for the materials, but having to get all the money to then buy the weapons in 1 and 2 is so boring... After unlocking all the equipment you may have enough money to buy 1 or 2, but that's not enough
>>505796857I dunno that the tablet there was worth it, it doesn't give any more TEC than the best book I made already, doesn't have an elemental forge, and somehow despite having 423 attack does pretty bad damage. Do books have a special attack formula with a damage penalty or something?
>tfw this stratum's equipment upgrade is 10-30 of the same materialI did not miss the earlier games' approach to itemization
>>505763887>>505772226>>505771593Alright we'll add these 3 to the roster. If anybody has more ideas we'll use them.
>>505805189At some point it pays to have a Medic with Scavenge.
>>505771593winrar
>>505772226winrar
>>505763887winrar
>>505820842sweetwhat classes do you still want names for?
>>505820419>>505820635>>505820842what will the guild be called
>>505821280I already named it N
>>505821071We have room for like 20 more people, but as far as fresh classes we still need Landsknecht, Hexer, War Magus, and eventually Beast but I don't even know how to unlock that shit yet. This is my first time playing the sequel.
>>505821071I'm open to having multiples of every class, but we should have 1 of everything first before doing seconds.
>>505822058Beast unlocks with story progression in the 1st StratumI already got 2 names so I'll let other anons chime in for now. If there are still unnamed etriams left after 24 hours I'll make some more suggestions
>>505817869Ironically I got the medic helm (the one that needs a bajillion hellfly drops) in I right after finishing bf26 without any scavenge investment just because you go through like 10000000 encounters by the time you find the stairs.
We're going to bring the newbies on the adventure to do the first bar mission. So everyone is aware classes are as follows.Poe - Survivalist (always in the party)Trixie - Dark HunterFreddy - TroubadourMercy - MedicSasha - Gun GirlWaiting at homeBig Cat - AlchemistAshe - ProtectorKatrina - Ronin
>>505823101To make things interesting, this will be a harcore playthrough, so if someone dies, and we're unable to bring them back to life before the fight ends they'll be retired. If Poe is killed and unable to be revived before the end of the fight it will be game over.
>>505823295We got the spring water, but being the dipshit I am I forgot to sleep at the inn and Mercy was unable to heal, we almost lost Trixies, Freddy and and Sasha, but Poe used medica consumables to keep everyone safe. I'll try not to let mistakes like that happen again.
So the team is pretty weak, Poe almost died a couple times, but we've got 2 new missions the first is to gather 3 Long pins for a local leather smith, and the second is to gather materials so Poe can get access to a new bow. I think having him in the back line will be beneficial to maintaining the ability to keep us from just strait up losing the game.
So I've started spending some of our points, Freddy is going to go for XP up, Sasha and Trixie are going to focus on bindings and disables for sadism kinky fun times. Poe is getting bow upgrades, and we'll just leave Mercy with level 1 heals for now. I think after this run we will sell some of our loot and start outfitting our team with some equipment.
Poe was one shotted, we have to use our only nectar on him to prevent a game over.
>>505830403Next turn Freddy got one shotted too, we're going to have to go retire him now. RIP
>>505830660That's what happens when you have 4 backline classes in a single party. Why not put either the survivalist or the troubadour in the back?
>>505830660Freddy was very unlucky, we only want extra lucky troubadours in our guild.
>>505831357I guess I can try that on the next run. As for now, some shit just came up so I'll have to pick this back up later.
>>505832395Incase anybody wants to get involved we still need names for Landsknecht, Hexer, War Magus, and a new Troubadour. I'll also open the floor for choosing the team we use on the next crawl. First post gets whatever they want.
>>505832753War magus must be named Fang using the, you guessed, fang portrait.Hexer should have a made up, weird and unpronounceable name like Mrübhtlya
>>505832753>>505836445For the next team can we useRonin / ProtectorSurvivalist / Alchemist / War Magus?Nonstandard team comps are fun, but they're less fun when you're constantly dying. Plus, the new blood need their chance to shine.
>>505836445>made up, weird and unpronounceable namethat's for war magus and hexerlandy gets nice normal names that you would expect your tomboy childhood friend to have
>>505832753>names Do you have portraits in mind? Do they have to be cute girls?
>>505832753Hu’Taloa, the hopefully longer lived Troubadour (pick the brown portrait svp)
>>505839449WM can go in the front row to spread out the damage a bit more
>>505836445Forgive my ignorance, but which one is Fang portrait?
>>505848945The one with the fang blonde one
>>505836445Hexer
>>505849204underrated sexer
>>505841521Lets hope she's a lucky one.
>>505839449 (me)>>505841785Good point. In that case I'm modifying my request to Protector / Ronin / War MagusSurvivalist / Alchemist
>>505849064We got a new friend here.
>>505849830Peak himukai design
>>505849469I'll adjust the team so Fang goes in front.Okay we got Poe some new armor so he can hopefully not die since we used our revive already and I don't know where to get another one.
Cock sucking crawler killed Big Cat. D=Big Cat was my favorite.
>>505852690Poor Big Cat, I'm going to replace him with Big Cat 2
Okay everybody got a buckler, so hopefully we can avoid these one shots.
>>505853868Big Cat's death was not in vain. The bucklers saved Big Cat2's life.
Which game would you consider the best in terms of Himukai's art?
>>505856320EO2 easily. It has Fang and Jack Frost gunner.
I guess we're at a good place to call it a night. We'll pick up the run again tomorrow.
>>505852690Sorry about Big Cat, anon. We meme about Great Lynx as the Floor 1 filter, but Crawler did it first.
CLEVER STRIKE
bump before bed
>>505856320He's only improved with time though I always thought 4 looked like an odd transitory period for him with some of the portraits and NPCs. Baldur for example never looked right to me.
>cant retire the special characters in eo4well shit
>>5058563203 or 5
next stage announcement soon bros
>>505888453
Did you know that Regal Radiance's JP name is Emit Weapon, and Clever Strike's JP name is Magic Weapon?
CHAIN KILLER
I hate squirls
>Ace Combat came back>DMC came back>Dragons Dogma came back>Armored Core came back>Phantom Brave came back>Onimusha came back>Motherfucking Okami is coming back (unless it goes through dev hell and gets cancelled)S-soon, it will be our turn.
>>505923185Accept death anon. Living in delusion is painful.
>>505923185>>505923487I actually believe in new Etrian, I feel like the biggest obstacle is platform+scope After Switch 2 is out+established I bet itll come to that and PC
>>505923185EO is dead. That totally-not-Persona game brought a lot of money to Atlus, enough so that they won't bother with anything other than Persona and Not-Persona.
>Metaphor 2>Now featuring the city of Haila Garde.
Man, Shin is not able to do much about prevent order huh? She literally just spammed status the entire fight while i summoned a bunch of bots, used prevent order every single turn, and then just kinda beat her up without much effortShe only caused damage a single time
A few threads back (last thread? I forget) there was discussion about Buccaneer being badI'm playing EO3 now and I'd just like to throw in the fact that you can get the Jolly Roger really really early and it makes the Buccaneer's damage completely insane for like an entire stratum and superior to everything but Yagrushing people(which itself is way more annoying to get cause it costs an insane amount of en), and the best Rapier is from stratum 3 anyway so if you did wanna go that route its right thereOn top of that Ketos conditional drops their best armor, they are extremely easy to get juiced up
>>505923185I assume they'd port the Untold games first, and next stage is a new Untold but lord only knows
>>505936097>using an yggdroidhaha, just you wait until you face the final boss of the main game and laugh as you see her pointlessly trying to bind your ygg
So we finished the Leatherworkers request and found our first gathering node. I've taken the liberty to make our first mule to just learn the gathering skills. We'll be hanging out here for a while until we can upgrade our equipment.
>>505956961So we visited the doctor for completion's sake. Being that we just dismiss our dead members I doubt we'll be using many of his services.Still need a name for a Landy, I think we should call him Randy the Landy.
>>505958323Dandy the Landy
>>505959216Done! I forgot to screenshot it though, sorry about that.
Game over, stupid fucking flower
>>505925681>That totally-not-Persona game brought a lot of money to AtlusIt also took like a decade
>>505962751That's just modern game development in general
Housewife dragoon
>>505945689I'd rather we stay ded than have next stage be a new Untold. And no, I don't think that's what it'll be if it does happen.
>>505968462Bobcut was my portrait for my solo run of V
>verify that you are dancer
Ive pathed out some walkways amidst the pitfalls on b27 in I using the FOEs but, uh, I don't seem to have found the next staircase. Oh dear. We're in for a long haul.
dedrian ripissey
>>505984284Why is she so mad?
>>505996227she tries to land oneshot on golem for 50 turns already
BLAZE PRAYER
>>505995268If you want to do it the less painful way, use Survivalist’s skill that reveals FOE positions. Assuming you’re not already doing that.
etriam but kusoge
>>506010318we already have etrian 2
>>505980721>solo run of VSounds challenging. How did it go for you?
>>505973816monk sub ninja
what's the best etrian classmechanically and why is it dancer
>>506020426Imperial because big numbers make my pp hard
>>505996227>Why is she so mad?
For Yggdroid, is Shoot a physical attack? Or does it use TEC like the bots do, this page I found says its an attack with your equipped weapon so I'm guessing it uses strength+attack? This also means you need a strong weapon from a subclass for best use which feels a little unintuitive for an attack that's allegedly shooting your bots at an enemy but you know, etrian
>>506020426Has to be sovereign
>>506002267I didn't invest in it and I'm already 70r70 so I don't feel like respeccing. If there are more foes that will lead me to better paths then I can probably just try to observe them normally provided I find a vantage point. >>506017095I succeeded in my goal of clearing the main story, I generally don't bother with post games in solos. Have done Nexus with Highlander and years ago got stonewalled again with Highlander at overlord in U2, maybe could revisit that after all the legendary grimoires I got through normal playthroughs. As with most solos there's a lot of grinding, and in the case of U2 creativity with grimoires. For V though the finale against the final story boss required me to land sleep at a crucial moment for setup and then buster cannon to transition into his later phases and I think at some point I won due to a crucial blind miss late in the fight when the damage really starts pouring on. Was fun.
What are the general views on the Mystery Dungeon game? Is it much good?
>>506025292I mean, if you already have a Survivalist among your level 70 characters, I don’t think resting her would slow down your progress at all. They already get enough SP to invest in everything worthwhile, plus some situational stuff like said FOE skill. Even 1 SP in that skill helps a lot with this floor.
>>506025732Not a stong entry in either seriesI played it to a sane level of completion though, like 98% of drops
etriam but Violence Jack
>>506035938>rape resistance is a vital passive all classes share
>>506020426I used neither Dancer nor Nightseeker in my only EO4 run and I want to go back to it just to fuck around with them
Rest well
>>506043748So do I anon, so do I
>>506061985JENETTA SEXO
>>506064660NOPAN HERO
>>506023654Shoot is a strength attack, the range depends on your equipped weapon and the element depends on the deployed bots (if you have bots of all three colors it becomes almighty)Shoot is kinda trash, you basically need a party of less than 5 for it to be worth using.
>>506082921>notOHOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHOHO
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125186907
>>506096706who
>>506096915A fake bnnuy sexo
etriam but big dick damage
>>506043748Both of them are mandatory.
>>506113095Cute butt.
>>506020426I'd argue Chain Fencer. They're the best iteration of the chase/link class archetype by far. >chains are cheap, fairly strong, automatically go first, and have solid followup chance without any setup>consequently they work just as well in random encounters as they do for boss battles (even more so thanks to the brilliant design of Chain Burst, very satisfying) so they maintain their archetype identity in any encounter unlike Landkek whose links are worthless and require them to use generic splash damage skills>on the topic of aoe, Chain All is kickass, watching my 3ds lag from the sheer amount of violence imposed upon Star Destroyer is incredible >one self buff skill, extremely strong with long duration for bosses and FOEs so that you don't have to juggle two self buffs, one of which is 3 fucking turns (hate you Landy)>damage range is from competent to incredible based on how much setup you do as opposed to "may as well auto attack" to incredible like Landy >Chain Killer exists for some reason so they even have synergy with ailment parties, can be monstrously strong in certain circumstances They're perfect. Next closest class is Nexus highlander with the buttery smooth self synergy in all of its kit.
All farmers team
>>506125783Chain Fencer is definitely the best but 2U's Chasershark is still my favourite, not because of their skill set, but because 2U has such insane party customization potential that makes it so satisfying to see your Chasershark hit those max 5 chases. It really makes your party feel like a well oiled machine.
>>506125783I'm too low INT to use Chain Burst effectively, so I'm not loving Fencer as much as I probably should
>>5061332562U’s grimoires are such a huuuuuggge step up from 1U’s it isn’t even fair.
>>506133256I will give credit to U2's Landy for allowing for a setup (possibly the only?) that no way fags Ur Devil. I do want to eventually try a chaser party for a normal run, not super optimized with survivalist memery but definitely palm alch (since I've never used them) and gunner setups.
>>506133590The thought required to use it vs the reward for doing so is exactly what makes it so good imo.
>>506125783Chain Fencer (or even just fencer in general since they all get chains) is realy cool yeah, my 5 playthru I used a Bird Rover, a Chain Fencer, a Weed Elf, and a Reaper and even with this team the chains were pretty useful. I was surprised, i got walled at hyppogriff and had to experiment and using chains was actually really worth it
>>506140704Yeah that's a huge part of their appeal imo. Even on the lower end, getting only ~2 chains a turn, they're still solid, and in your case you have chain Killer which is worth like 4 normal chains per activation. God forbid if you get chain double with it.
>>506144426I never actually figured out chain killer that playthru unfortunately, I actually ended up just using multistab but it was pretty good as I recallActually after typing this I remembered I keep quick and simple txt files for EO playthrus where I write down what my thoughts were, the one for EO5 is especially undetailed but it's a little interesting>The team is shit and I regret everythingmy memory is that it was pretty good and I really liked EO 5, funny how memory is
For me, EOV is all about the Pugilists. Either path is great, one of the best at doing what they do in the series.
Food for thought: Chains are actually overall stronger at a base than Thunder Fist, ease of use aside
>>506146789Barrage Pug was perfectly in line with the other classes of V, which makes it extra sad that they had to pay for the sins of Thunder Fist; the Spec in Nexus. Nexus pug is one of those classes that make you say "no, actually, they ARE that bad" but thankfully the game is easy enough for them to be perfectly viable. >>506147121They do bend the party comp requirement enough for me to disagree. Pug's have higher strength/stronger weapons, chains at base have a small chance of failing to continue, and thunder fist modifier is high enough that mathematically you need like 3 chain activations just to be even which is the point at which I'd consider your party to be specifically built for the fencer.
>>506152428simply activate chains with thunder fist cause atlus made the entire first half of the game weak to volt for some reason
>>506075978I seeDang I might have to rest my Yggdroid
>>506125783basedmy V party was chain fencer x 2 (RPd as them being from rival schools with very minor technical differences invisible to anyone that wasnt a fencer themselves but that were super important to their schools identity), hound rover, ominlock and the healing herbalist
>>506155109Chains don't proc off fellow chains do they? You're basically capped at 3 chains, not that it isn't already doing good damage that way. I ran fencer x 2 as well but one was phantom fencer, who was saved from being dead weight solely by her contribution to chain fencer (sylpheed is one of the few extra attacks that gives chains, only once per turn of course), being able to actually reach 5 chains with the rest of the party during sylpheed.
>>506158750>Chains don't proc off fellow chains do they?No, though Sonic Blade does work (not that you're likely to use it). I assume he did it to make use of the bug where if you have Fencer A use Chain on Enemy 1 and Fencer B use Chain on Enemy 2, they will follow attacks both on their targeted enemy and the one the other Fencer targeted (so in this case they both follow any matching attacks made on Enemy 1 or 2)
>>506125783>>on the topic of aoe, Chain All is kickass, watching my 3ds CRASH from the sheer amount of violence imposed upon Star Destroyer is incredible Still my favorite part of my original V run
>>506146789Tell me more what you like about Pug, I want a breakdown of how great it is like the Fencer guy
https://tiermaker.com/create/etrian-odyssey-classes-entire-series-207944
>>506172612Based on enjoyment moreso than strength though the two heavily correlate. Honestly some classes vary so greatly between entries that a few get elevated exclusively for specific incarnations like U2 Alchemist or Untold Survivalist (I love Efficiency).
>>506179067Durr forgot image.
>>506172612this is a combination of enjoyment/power/portraits, I didnt realize it til making this list just how much bad status I tend to use
>>506181709i too forgot my image
>>506179201>Yggdroid on D>>506181849>Yggdroid on SOh, the duality of /eog/
>Eo3 Scylla>start the fight>she immediately kills half my team what the heck is happening I thought this move was supposed to miss if you weren't disabled
>>506185564not beating that "not disabled" requirement currently
Kujura is shaking in his boots watching this fight
Upon continuing to my nature safari of BF27 in 1, I find myself not hating the gimmick as much because it really is just all about following FOE pathing. And guessing for the rest... Or maybe I've just gone mad, because David Attenborough's voice is now narrating the ecology of every single FOE.
>>506204724too big
>>506211803better?
>>506214636not flat enough
>>506043748Dancers are pretty solid throughout. Great synergy with landsharks and triple frontline teams. Nightseekers I find just sorta fall off once you get subclasses. Nightseeker is by far the best dps for the early game though. My go-to ends up being bringing three of them and just ailment blitzing every encounter.
I wish I knew how to mix up team comps in EO better... Its always some variant of buffing up a volley skill and scoring guaranteed hits off the max value. I've tried debuff ones and struggle to maintain them, I've done chain teams and those always feel too restrictive speed wise, and my 5 team was kinda just me desperately thunder fisting with two monks and the rest of my game plan was survival
What's the best control setup for these games on a 3DS emulator? Played 3 HD and wondering if I can get the keyboard and mouse anywhere close to how that one works
>>506214921>Nightseekers I find just sorta fall off once you get subclasses. Nightseeker is by far the best dps for the early game though.Uwotm8Nightseekers never stop dumping retarded amounts of damage into statused targets. Their ailment damage boost only grows stronger as they get their master skills, as they do almost double damage to enemies with ailments and even without ailments Swift Slash has a high damage modifier. Auto Spread Throw + Venom Throw deletes every random encounter in the game on top of that, though for some you might go sleep throw. Once you get subclasses they get just as much of a damage boost as anyone else from Blood Surge, and they're already going to be dual wielding to take advantage of Defiance. What on earth are you doing to your poor Nightseeker that they fall off? Equip them with daggers?
DANCE ORACLE
The most unrealistic thing about the Untold parties is that they both have a majority of Male Party members
>>506172612This is about accurate? A bit hard to rank ones with different games that vary a lot
What are the easier games to play without a defender? Just got done with U1 and can't imagine how the game is meant to play without access to the walls
>>506244773you don't need one in 2U (nor a beast), you don't need one in 4, you don't need one in 5, you don't need one in nexusit's almost required in 3 and it's very encouraged in 1U
>>5062447734 and 5 are the easiest to beat both main game and post game without a tank.
>>506244773IV, V, and Nexus are all still chill without a dedicated tank. >>506245015>encouragedThat seems to be putting it lightly, unless you're running triple landsknecht or something in the front you're frequently going to be scraping your front line off the ground. I don't think Shelter Song is enough to safely keep everyone alive and Hexer is too slow to always fire off disables in time. Unless you're referring to grimoires making protector as a class by itself irrelevant.
There might not be an icon limit in the HD collection but I still long since ran out of different icons for bf29 Claret Hollows. Walled off tiles of different colors, auto path arrows, colored tiles with annotations... Cmon Atlus where are the 0-9 icons
>>506252573Original 29F was fineI marked just only the portals I need to get to 30F
>>506252573Something Persona Q did that I thought was pretty smart was that you could recolour pretty much every icon either white, blue, red, or yellow, so even though the number of icons themselves weren’t increased so much that you had tray size issues (like I’d say existed in EOV) you functionally had a lot of markers to pick. Different colour FOE markers to distinguish different types was pretty kino.
>>506251138i've beaten 1U twice and the first time was without a protectorsecond time with a protector was noticeably easier but it's not like it was impossible
>>506251138>>506245015I dont think you need it in 3 really, guard order+guard tactic stack and can have nearly 100% uptime and make basically anyone pretty tough, and Zodiac or Yggdroid can do elemental walling. That said its the game with maybe the craziest subclassing, theres like no reason not to have someone grab /hoplite
>>506244773Are we talking post game bonus dragons or not for Untold? Dragons you really want a protector, main game you can probably get away without it. Imo Story mode actually shifts things towards you wanting a protector more (which is good because you have one) because of the fucking tank boss that flamethrowers your team to death if you’re not walling/misting it all the time.
>>506253245I think it's a highlight of how Claret Hollows was designed that I found bf30 to be an extremely pleasant stroll. And I am surprised at how relatively easy Primeval was compared to the nightmare that was Core in untold. Axcella 3 allowing 100% uptime on boosted immunize means that all I had to do was make sure the right wall was used and that I didn't get necrosis. Basically avoiding necrosis was what required several attempts. I don't know if I want to 100% this game, it was fun but Claret Hollows sucked out my will to pursue that drudgery. I heard that town medal comes with you to II? What are it's stats there?
>>506261557NVM I see it, you don't even needs to get the town medal in I, just clear data. Decent free accessory.
MIDAREBA
Thinking about it, is 4 the only EO without an elemental imbue buff?
>>506276893Dont runes do that?
iced runie butt
3 but with no forges
>eo1u>level 12>showing shilleka around>kill a deer and one boar>mantis kills me>reset game
I hate Untoldfags and newfags complaining about the Origin collection being DS remasters and not Untold remasters using the most brain-dead retarded arguments. And this comes from someone whose favourite game is 2U.
>>506287457this would've made things nearly impossible for me, i'm relying extensively on elemental forges
>>506288245LolShe must have laughed at you
>>506291014What prompted you to be mad? No one is saying that here??Do you routinely think of things and make yourself mad for no reason???
>>506295992No, I stumbled upon that somewhere else and I needed to vent about it because absolutely nobody I know irl has any idea what an etrian odyssey is.
>>506291945Those only affect regular attacks no? So you're running a WM party?
>>506297135Yeah that's fair. It pissed me off too when the collection was announced and people were shitting on it for containing the original versions of 1 and 2 as if the Untolds were replacements for them. There were actually valid things to be upset over at the time like the pricing.
>>506302654>There were actually valid things to be upset over at the time like the pricing.Baffling decision, I guess Atlus gave up on any thought of attracting newcomers and hoped that longtime fans would be so desperate that they would shell out the full price. I waited until a 60% off sale because fuck that.
>>506301567I'm using Yggdroid bots, with ice forges I can just summon 1 bot and cleanup normal fights with a few basic attacks with 0 issues, also saves a ton of tp so i dont have to core dump every single fight For bosses/FOES/etc I bind arms and legs and can use All Out, but even there it's helpful for my other party member to be able to make the bots attack without having to mess with ice arms constantly
Beat EO3 Deep City route with my 2 princess->yggdroid and princess teamI had forgotten a lot about this fight, my memory was that Kujura attacked you WITH the Deep Princess which would obviously be a lot more dangerous but since this wasn't the case it was actually really easy, neither of them could mount any kind meaningful offense, half my teams immunes to binds, the entire teams immune to bad status etc it was a kind of brutal beatdown honestly probably cause I'm level 70 and had retired at 42 previously. It's been a ton of fun though, Princess and Yggdroid are both awesome classes with impressive bulk and sustain, I think I did every floor this playthru without going back more or less cause TP is just infinite, it's gonna be hard to go back to normal in the next game. Heavy armor has been a lot more valueable than I remembered as well, I remembered using 3x accessory pretty commonly in EO3 but stacking up armor made a really appreciable difference the entire game I feel likeBut for now, it's on to Armoroad route speedrun to get Yggdroids best armor, Shogun, and the badge and then true ending-> see what I can manage in the end game
>>506308914Gutrune is so hot
>>506313616she looks like she's very cold and very slimy
>>506317413I know, isnt it hot
>>506313616not flat enough
>>506308914Ng+ done, Olympia and Seyfried do attack together which is what I was thinking of I guess. They were much stronger cause they had the lightning thing I didn't expect but still weren't a big deal. Did all quests for stat ups, grabbed most coupons+books, and onto ng++
>>506313616
>>506331062Cute collarbone.
So people consider Landy heavily nerfed in II but looking at their skills aren't their chasers actually great now? At max level getting 2 activations is trivial and 3 has a fairly good chance provided your party is built for it. It's not some dinky low modifier either, 190% per hit is actually quite good especially since it's elemental. Though I guess the classes you want to pair it with, like Ronin or Gunner, would much rather user Midareba/Ricochet than feed the Landy.
>>506338140A lot of EO2 is parroted misinformation. Chasers are used with Hexer + Troub since their debuff effects stack as unique sources (look up the modifiers). Spamming Dampen is also inferior to using Frailty in a lot of fights too.On that note, Medic is a fine healer if you're proactive with timing your healer or get the Polar Staff.
>>506338140I did a chaser run for 2 and it worked fine. Warcry and war might make landy do enough damage for the whole team. Though I mostly relied on jars and oil for elemental damage which was a bit annoying having to farm for.
I almost finished 2 and I still don't understand what people mean by chasers here
>>506347215Landsknecht's Blazer, Freezer and Shocker skills.
>>506342081>Chasers are used with Hexer + Troub since their debuff effects stack as unique sources (look up the modifiers)Do you skip Protector with this setup? Because otherwise it seems a bit constrained for feeding chases (and damage in general, surely you can't trek with a 1 HP hexer all game) you're going to need a healer to go along with that which leaves you one slot for another damage dealer. >polar staffElaborate, does it have to do with unique weapon speed modifiers? I was just going to go war Magus for Warmight. >>506346609Is it really fine to rely on Landy for all your damage while everyone else chips with oil buffed weapons? >Warcry is 70% Hory shiet never mind maybe it is.
>>506351505>Is it really fine to rely on Landy for all your damage while everyone else chips with oil buffed weapons?I had an alch for damage too but the answer is yes. With hexer, WM, and protector there was a lot of support too. War might is like 50% as well, they're both pretty big buffs.It helps that starting floor 7 hexer solves pretty much every random encounter all on her own so your offense being so set up heavy doesn't really get in the way.
>>505215870My attempt at an EO1 flavor. I'm not skilled enough to get ornate leafy borders around the posts to play nicely with gradients yet... so those are simplified to avoid looking like shit.Planning to do an EO3 version, too. You must have that pic of chibi blonde princess getting bullied by the lynx, EOG, care to repost?
>>506352268So was your elemental damage just an alchemist and spamming jars/oils?
>>506352268What happens on floor 7? Is it just referring to the expected level curve? I'm guessing torpor or poison comes online by then. >AlchSo going back to the misinformation surrounding II, are they actually as bad as people say? It's easy for me to glean that chasers are good because I can compared damage modifiers to other physical attackers but alchemist damage runs off a different formula (I know their spell damage numbers essentially act as weapons) so it's not readily apparent to me. Their tp costs are however, what the fuck.
>>506355275yes. Honestly alch was pretty strong once I got one of the level two spells to 10 and I didn't even need to chase for a couple bosses. Webm unrelated since I was leveling the spells a bit more balanced before Scylla and I regretted it.>>506357341Poison starts to come online by around floor 6 but floor 6 has mushrooms and statues that are immune to it, so it's only really floor 7 that you start winning fights instantly with it. Around stratum 4 or 5 you switch to torpor and continue winning every random encounter for the rest of the game.I've only done a single playthrough of 2 so I don't know that I would really call chasers strong since I don't have anything to compare them to. It's certainly fun though.
>>506313616fish pussy
>>506351505L + H are mandatoryT and WM form a supportive backbone but using both of them is a little redundantP is mandatory if you intend to use War Cry and/or Risk Element in a lot of boss battles. Especially since H is too busy to go for binds for a long time.Gunner is the best elemental support for bosses, Alchemist vs Ronin depends on which row is free.
>>506351505Not every weapon has the same speed mod. Some of them are secretly fast or slower.
>>506370518>but using both of them is a little redundantIf you pick T over WM, are II's healing items good enough to keep things comfortable? >Risk Element Are guard skills even enough to keep your gunner from eating shit? 2.5x damage is something else, never mind the earlier levels
>>5063726592's healing items are nonsensically powerful, easily the best in the series.If its HD, then you beeline Taunt with your Protector because the guard skills suck.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/78903977
Favorite team comps?
>>506385619Harbinger, Rover, and Pugilist are friends
>>506385619Any team with 5 lolis
>>50638561920kat
>>506385619Nexus Sov/Harb/Imperial. Watching bosses lose half their health bar to a single turbocharged Accel Drive makes me hard.
>>506386706Based Imperialfag, what were your other two members?
>>506385619big tits on everything where applicable
>>506392137Zodiac and Hero
Kaishaku.
>>506401804Anyone have the picture of fang shogun in a palliative care ward?
>>506347215Any skill that makes one character follow another characters attack if they meet the condition, Chains in 5, chasers in 1+2, Yggdroid robots, Buccaneer etc it's pretty often seen in EO
>>506385619If I had to choose one I think it would be WM / Ronin / Landy / Surv / Troub in 2UIts gimmick is that Illusion Step can activate Perfect Chaser, but everyone has a few different things they can do which helps it feel a bit less flowchart-y. It's not optimal by any means but I liked it.
sticc
>>506358076>"So, what's your name?">"Hmm.">"Got it."
http://turuga.web.fc2.com/2048/
>>506420598Imagine that when I am doing this that the Etriams are being squeezed together like fruit against a juicer and made to liquid until they merge. Mmm, Etrian juice
HEAVENLY AID
etriam but FFV
>>506451685Etrian four(five?) job fiesta sounds fun
we beat this future at least
Etriam but VN
Seir's dad is so cool in the new pack...
I know it doesn't effect the actual game any but does any dialogue change between the Armaroad/Deep City versions of the true ending path?
>>506462046I want that blanket
>>506460703I can never pick, I love the Princess but I love the Deep City Innkeeper tooI kinda hate Olympia though and ultimately the story is MOSTLY the kings fault
>get on true ending path>sprint all the way to the end of the porcelain forest>alright cool, lets get outta here>i didnt buy a warp wire this cant be real someone save me
Beat Progenitoron EO3's true ending route with my duo Yggdroid and Princess teamIt was dramatically more challenging than the others (my bots kept slowly dying to attrition from the elemental AOEs if i didn't use reflect constantly, vine rush in particular could hit my Yggdroid for an insane amount of damage but the princess tanked it like a pro) and I had what I expected to turn into a failure when he one shot my Yggdroid with a powered up thorn cutter for 507 damage but the Princess managed to revive+heal+stabalize the team somehow while shaking off her own binds It was a sick fight, a 12 hp yellow bot got the last shot in for 400 damage, I'm gonna do what I can in the post game with this team but I expect it's going to get real hard from here on
>>506474761>vine rush in particular could hit my Yggdroid for an insane amount of damage but the princess tanked it like a proI thought Ygg's were the tanks class in the game. Ah, though I'm guessing it's a front/back setup on your case.b
>>506474761Based Ygg enjoyerPeople that shit on the bots for using the user's TEC have clearly never used them, they hit pretty hard
DEATH'S EDGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X68DaojQam0
Middle/late January or early February will have 3rd party focused Direct. Etrian will show up there. Either 6 or 4HD. Dude, trust me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp0cmqhCfLwBy the way it changing forms counts as summoning a new monster, so Accumulative Resistance resets every time it does that. This lets Wildlings go to town on it.
>>506522387>spoilerThat's actually quite interesting. I wouldn't say wildling is that amazing on it because it's quite hard to land ailments, I should know as I didn't pick up on the "purposely use weak auto attacks to bait counters" trick (not sure how I was supposed to figure that out without having a wiki on boss behavior open) and so resorted to resetting the fight until panic stuck long enough for me to blitz it down. One thing I'm curious about is how does Wolf Howl work? Does it snapshot the amount it debuffs based on the enemy's state at the time of casting or does it specifically change depending on the enemy's current state? What I mean to say is, if you cast wolf howl when the enemy is statused but it recovers, does the debuffs diminish or stay full strength because it was applied during a status?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvy4n3fBnNE
>lvl 9 viper in eo1u>two-three shotting foes of aprox the same levelbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXG7PxHAV4E
>>506535706Viper is mostly for foes and bosses so why not max it asap? Lvl 15 viper from boost does full retard damage.
>>506475685No they are both in the front and have the best in slot body armor and a magic hat, as near as I can tell it's just the difference between having a shield on the princess and not on the Yggdroid (I'm using the +5 all stats deep road medal), that 100 defense from the shield is a big deal. Yggdroids definitely tanky even without it, it seems like it gives princess the edge though. If I was gonna do it again I think I'd try putting Poleyn (boots with 1 each of slash/strike/pierce resists) instead to stack with the Carbide armor, or maybe just the Gauntlets for as much defense as I can get, or even a specifically pierce accessory. The TP from the Deep Medal is seriously convenient and was actually a key part of being able to recover from the death since I could make bots and give orders and stuff without having to immediately spend two turns selfbinding my arms and legs, and +5 all stats is great but it's not worth being in 1 shot territory >>506476205Each point of Tec makes a huge difference, it's pretty cool. I feel like my Yggdroid here could at least do ok on any team that has one open slot similar to a Ninja or Wildling, even without the obvious advantage of having multiple bots. The bot essentially enables non attackers to do good damage by just having an elemental forge match the bots color, for most of the game I only had Blue leveled and just used Ice forges cause the Jolly Rogers I had from before already had Ice forges cause they were super effective on the ghost ship (for farming more forges) and I never really had major trouble with stuff resisting it
>>506542261Dang I forgot my picture, as you can see though Yggdroid have a ton of HP and very high Vit and heavy armor, they are definitely tough
>>506542261>Each of point of Tec makes a huge difference.Yeah, that's why Tec based skills have very low multipliers.The base hit formula for a Tec skill is TEC*4 - Enemy's VIT so every point of Tec is worth 4.
>>506542261You could go a lot farther than you initially think just by farming books from the sounds of it.
Is it just me or does II have an absurdly high ambush rate? I started to catalog it because of how common it is and from the last 20 encounters I got ambushed 6 times
>>506551159I just had another 3 out of 5, currently staring down a triple Crawler ambush, what the fuck man
>>506551159Certain encounters such as solo Evil Eyes are guaranteed ambushes without using skills to stop that, I believe.
>>506551159>>506551821I don't remmeber anything specific but I wanna say 2 maybe had a bugged skill that didn't stop them and made it worse or something maybe? When in doubt with 2 assume there might be a mistake
http://uniuni.dfz.jp/sq3/
Does luck actually matter in II? Or is most of the infliction base on skill level with luck being an afterthought?
Most fun EO3 team?
FRONT MORTAR
Ricky!
>>506277671No
>>506572864Front:bucc,hoplite,princessBack:farmer and arbalist.
>>506572864princess wildlingzodiac zodiac zodiac
Imperial, Fortress, Dragoon, Arbalist, and Gunner walk into a bar
>>506600157Sleep tight Pinko
>>506600157why does she have that expression on her face?
>>506601734She's incredibly comfy
I decided to take a swing at Anemone it took a couple tries but it just kinda died? it feels very rng if it decides to heal a ton forever and do a lot of damage/status, even through prevent order, or just kind of lamely try to bind (Yggdroid wins again) and hit for 5 damage afterwards.in any case, 1 down
>>506601843that must be a warm blanket
>>506601843lucky
OHOHOHOHOHO
I can't believe I never knew EO3 had Ronin Hexer yuri
The quest for the King's Grail seems silly. Somehow High Lagaard's king needs this super special item to cure him when adventurers can shake off petrification with theriaca and literal death with Nectar. >>506603949I feel like the fight is basically just a hard elemental damage check. If you don't have elemental damage then good luck outpacing the healing especially when your party gets hit by the instant death side effect on one of its attacks and the constant ailment disruption.
>>506625701that dress' not short enough
>>506629728She makes up for it by being nopan.
Why do I find EO2 to be the comfiest of them all? Why does it feel so nostalgic and special to me when it was the 4th game of the series I played? I can't put my finger on it, but it has something that has stuck with me since I played it
>>506637945EO2 has the best stratum themes, each stratum representing a different season is peak comfy and the music for each is gorgeous.
>>506637945One thing that comes to mind is it feels like the townspeople get more quest time than usual, or at least more memorable ones. Stuff like everyone getting together for Quona's birthday or Cass making fun of Marion and then hiding when she shows up at the bar. Makes it seem more like a little community.
>>506601734She's imagining that Next Stage just got announced.
>>506666632It took me years to notice the 5th party member
>>506642738I actually don't enjoy the NPCs very much. I think it's mostly because of the cold mountain setting, that's close to where I live
>>506666632>how to ruin your whole playthrough; the questOh haha wow you gained a few points of str and vit and level (which contributes strongly to the damage formula) time to not be threatened by anything until Visil.
>>506675396the exp curve balances out so by the end of the 3rd stratum you're not that far ahead
>>505687389Is 7th Dragon /eog/?
>>506676964no but post it anyway
>>506594605Go on.
>>506675804Does it? Because I still didn't feel challenged by anything up until Visil and attributed that to the extra levels.
>>506600157Full one doko.
>>506680573https://exhentai.org/g/845113/4f01f20e90/
>>506680783danke
>>506679894that's the normal eo1 experience. It's a pretty easy game.
>>506676964The first one is.
>>506675396You can just avoid fighting
himukai fairy sexo
>>506685124I love GallicaGallica a cute
>>506685124That's great Himukai but get back to drawing loli portraits for 6, not Metaphor.
SUICIDE WORD
>>506696053
series status?
>>506697615See >>506697007
>>506666632>teach made a team of 4 guys
>>506685124He was probably imagining the trophy as a dick when drawing this.
Wow 2s FOEs don't fuck around, unlike 1s. I'm on floor 5 and an attack from the raptors one shots my front liners... with the best armor available (deer foe armor)... and front guard.
etriam but Volfoss
Buccaneer>>>>ygg
>>506716870
>>5067030682's funny in that regard because FOEs can also be turned into jokes if you run a Dark Hunter and invest in Climax.
>>506701596Look closely
>>506676964we can allow it
>>506748796THERIAN SEXO
>>506749071correct
>>506730347I've been building towards climax asap because even base level Bait requires too much tp at the moment for something that would be used frequently, however I would need to not instantly eat shit in order for it to work. I'll finish out the floor and the quests, then maybe see if I can do something about the raptor.
>>506758507>I've been building towards climax asaphahah
New Himukai dropped
>>5064205982048 is old news, where is the etriam suika game?
>>506802243yeah I can't play that game everytime I see the 64 Teach I get an erection and can't go on
COCK
MANKO
>>506842093I like choco Dancer
Aka Gunko
>Beat II's chimera first try because of poison>but two party members eat shit>end result is the other three being two whole levels higherFuck that bothers me
>>506854452You know what you have to do anon. Reset and redo the fight and make sure everyone lives.
>>506855302Orrr kill the other 3 and fight some enemies
>>506854452the two diers go on a secret grinding mission together to catch up to their comrades, and then love blooms
>>506857710this too, is yuri
I like the Pugilist girl design but I think the expression/pose in V does them no favours
in Eo3 retires dont stack right like if I retired at 40 and got +3 stats and 5 skill points, if I retire at 70 id get +5 stats and and 8 skill points instead, not in addition
>>506871664they don't stack in any game, only the new one applieseven in 2 only the level cap "stacks" the bonus doesn't
>>506871664>Zodiac/MonkWhy?
>>506885949With her TEC she can heal super well/efficiently with just like 1 point in healing, other than that she's just a pure zodiac and none of the other subs seemed especially helpfulI think I maybe also got ailment cure and/or unbind? I dont remember that picture is as old as the zodiac probably is, its been a while
>>506857710That's exactly what I did>>506866057No it's the new protector portrait and the new Ronin portrait.
>>506889851Why would you a have a Zodiac heal? They already have their hands full contributing damage every turn and they're pretty sp starved unless you were going for support Zod with Dark Ether.
>>506896041out of combat mostly, and like i said i think i just had cure ailment at 1 and heal at 2 so 3 sp total i dunno anon it was like 14 years ago, im tired
>>506889851Was nobody else in the party capable of healing or something?
>>506854452This happened to me too, but with Scylla. I did consider resetting the game but the fight was pretty hard so I decided to live with it. Later on I took the 2 characters who had died and had them help 3 newbies I needed for quests level up, and that was enough for them to catch up with the rest of my main team.
>>506908240The HD collection makes it pretty trivial to catch up the dead party members at least. You can just go to a floor where you win with auto attack and set up an auto loop (might require a turbo controller) mashing A, go do something else, come back to leveled up units. Though I generally only do that to level my gathering party.
>fire up eo1u after like 10 or so years>NG+>classic team>everyones level 6ish>find my Ronin with level 10 elemental fang abilities>feel warm
>>506922097literally who
>>506938983More Himukai gachapons, IE honorary etriams.
ALLLL AROUNND THE WORULLLDOO~WE ARE ALL THE SAMEEEE~
>>506963908too many clothes
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/60987697Synergistic etriams
>ArachneUmmm Okkkayyyyyyyy…..Damn EO2U is still kicking my ass. The anti-Res poison is just nasty, especially combined with the regular poison that does like 80% of a character’s HP. I guess anti-poison food again, but the extra TP would have been nice…
>>506973552What party and what level?
>>506977325Story party, lvl 28 (Arianna is 27, because I rested her a bit ago)If the poison attack wasn’t pre-signalled I’d say it’s just wholly unfair, but as is there’s the option to try to Prevent order every couple turns to deal with it. But that does mean I’m losing out on solid link order damage every time I do, which sucks given the background poison making a longer fight bad. Died twice so far, and then decided to come back to it later.
>>50696972520th coming up soon...
etriam butt
>>506988838hai
After finishing the whole series, I have to wonder why people wanted EO3U when EO3 was already pretty much already as good as/better than 4, 1U, and 2U. That's not to say vanilla EO1 and 2 were bad, but they definitely weren't as good as the rest of the series.
>>506992104Because it’d be fun. Second sweeps on balance, animated monsters, updated graphics, a new set of orchestration for the music, probably a new class or two - even if you don’t care about the story aspects of things - which could be fun, because 3’s definitely the most story heavy of the non-Untold games, there’s a lot to be said for it. And it would port it from the DS to the 3DS, which for quite a while would have made it way way way more accessible to purchase given the 3DS store. That point’s a lot more moot now given the remakes and the 3DS store shutting down, but it was definitely a big factor for a while.
I did ot bros.... after seven months of fatigue... I finally beat... Western Shrine....The boss was a tad easy, accidentally bumping into two FOEs at once made my butt clench more.
>>506993398I can understand that, It would be nice to see the FOEs on the overworld.
>>5069921043d gutrune
>>506980052I think I went with anti paralyze food for her, something about the rhythm of the poison meshed well with how I used prevent order. With the story party your main goal should be to maximize your damage phases with fafnir force and manage ailments to feed Chloe. You should have ailing slash by then. Personally I have never built towards Link Orders until the 99r99 for Ur Child, it needs a better party comp to make it worthwhile especially that early when I'd rather be maxing guard and attack order. How are you building your Fafnir? Are you making sure to prioritize Delayed Chase when it comes to managing SP for attack skills? It's generally the most efficient method for quickly scaling his damage.
>>506993398Imagine the ocean in 3D...And Cyclopean Haunt....
>>506988838
>>507021056Why is she so mean?
>>507021056>No underboobNot my Glad
>>507015987Bnnuy buns...
>>505687389https://www.loverslab.com/topic/188736-the-duos-nsfw-mod-collection/page/6/#commentsscroll to the bottom, someone "liberated" etrian odyssey 5 too lmaobut its stuck behind a patreon, of course. fuck paid mods
>>506070971Man, you still have that. ...It's been seven years, jesus
>>507047984Those nipples on Mirina look off.They should be dark
What are some good dungeon crawlers to hold me over until Next Stage? Besides Wizardry, Potato Flowers, Touhou fangames, and Grimrock.
>>507048421Meant for >>507047719
>>507049149I loved Labyrinth of Refrain and Labyrinth of Galleria but their combat leaves a lot to be desired. Give them a try if that's not a deal breaker for you, i think they're heavily discounted on Steam right now.
>>507047719Pink nipples on dark skin just look wrong to me and there didn't seem to be an attempt to make them fit Himukai's style either unlike our liberated mod. Crazy how this guy thought it was worth putting behind a paywall.
>>507049149I will always shill Starcrawlers
>>507047719This really highlights how good of a job liberated anon did on his mod without being a faggot that paywalls mods.
>>507050173This, all of his redraws are extremely garish.
>>507049149Touhou Artificial Dreams in Arcadia is mostly SMT but there's a bit of Etrian in there with FOEs and the combat some things from EO.Witch and Lillies looks interesting but it's still in Early Access and I won't play it until it's outLabyrinth of Zangetsu also looks interesting but apparently there's a Version 2 being developed so I'm waiting for that before playing it.
>>507058834Ignore Artificial Dreams I guess. I read Touhou fangames but my mind only excluded to Labyrinth of Touhou.
>>507059112It's an amazing game. But I've already played it.
Mystery Dungeon 2 translation status?
Alright anons, I tried an EO game for the first time last night (specifically, III) and while I enjoyed the combat and overall aesthetic, I found map drawing to be tedious and un-fun; I wound up stopping for the night after ~3 hours because it felt like the game boils down to>move a few spaces>stop, draw out the walls and doors and shit>keep moving a few more spaces>rinse and repeatwhich got very cumbersome after the first hour or so. I'm generally a fan of dungeon crawlers but this one feels very slow in comparison to others. Should I keep pushing with the belief it will open up or "click" for me, or is this game a specific breed of autism scratcher that I simply don't mesh with?
>>507068649Just turn on auto mapping.
>>507068649they have automap specifically for people like you, at most you place an icon every now and then with it on
>>507068985>>507068985>>507069242I did not know this feature existed. Thank you, anons.
>>507068649>>507069343It was a million times better in the ds since you could easily draw while walking using the stylus. They translated the map drawing controls pretty nicely to the PC but yeah it cna be a bit tedious. I replayed the three games with full automap on too
Team of 3 arbalist and a princess in addition to a farmer.
>>507068649Opposite problem, I really like the map drawing, and miss it whenever it's not there in any other dungeon crawlers.
>>507078964You can always draw your own map. Though I don't know of any good tools for doing that on PC.
>>507079582Ms paint
>>507012774I've been doing support Chloe and more of a damage Arianna - using link orders and giving her DH whip bind grimoires, which might be the difference. I've been hesitant to put Chloe on the front lines, because frankly even the people with heavy armor still get hit pretty hard even with Front Guard up. Fafnir is sitting at lvl 4 for both delayed chase and the respective elemental attacks. I haven't popped the TP up cost for either of them (it really does feel like he runs out super fast), and I might have to bite the bullet and do that. I might have put too much into Sonic Rush (which is also-grimoired up) because I saw synergy with a pre-initiative grimoire, but I don't know if it's giving me the return I need, so that might be a re-spec point as well.
>>507079582You can, but that is like a million times more cumbersome
>>507078964Same here. In an ideal world the DS and 3DS would have become THE platforms for DRPGs, and every game in the genre would have copied EO’s map drawing mechanic.
>>507082227I'd say Fafnir can afford to go one TP tier up with delayed chase compared to his elemental sabres, because it's a boss/foe exclusive skill for the most part meaning you don't spam it for exploration so the cost/benefit makes more sense. So when your sabres are 4 you'd go 9 for delayed chase. Fafnir is pretty much who you save your early amritas for because of his damage potential. You can go delayed chase (while Arianna buffs and Chloe debuffs) > force boost + Wave skill (delayed chase goes off) > blade recoil, which typically does a lot of damage, especially since you're going link order too (which scales off of the attack it is chasing, so a stronger delayed chase = stronger link order). Btw I'm not sure if you noticed yet but delayed chase will chase EVERY target hit by a wave skill. So if you're fighting a boss with adds and use a wave skill which will probably spread it's hits out then it will smack all of them. >Whip skills on Arianna If you're going to sharpen your party up with grimoires I recommend getting the Troubadour fantasias. The buff is not so useful but the debuff to the enemy is huge because it does not experience diminishing returns like all the other +damage/-enemy defense stiff does, and it fits your elemental damage focused party to a t.
>>507083438I think this also because the Stereoscopic 3D that no one uses is perfect for DRPGs
One thing I'm really liking about II is that the chests actually have stuff I care about. I'm only on stratum 2 so far but I've gotten multiple gear upgrades that are 1-2 floors better than what is currently available. I can count the number of times I've seen that in any of the other games on one hand. 95% of the time it's some consumable, a pittance of en, or gear that was outdated a floor ago.
>>507047984Etriam is forever
>>506242912>haven't played III yetPlay it, fool.
I hate it when classes don't have weapon types that match their portrait. Alchemists should have a magic gauntlet weapon type, Nexus Zodiacs should've had books brought back, Shaman should have tarot cards, and so on. Necromancers got coffins for some reason but nope, Shaman didn't get cards.
>>506262856>>506261557You get the town crown if the game's fully 100%.It's nerfed (like the medal) upon transfer to EO2 to give +15 HP, +15 TP, +2 all stats. Still useful especially with how unrelenting earlygame EO2 is though.
>>5070942155 had some cool loot, weapons with unique skills and such but 3 is real bad about it, most chests are just random medicine, the very occasional book/formaldehyde/coupon, and all the extremely extremely niche 1 damage status weapons
>>507087618I beat EOU2 on classic years ago but I never saw it's version of Princess and I'm looking it up now and holy shit link order would be so cool with my Yggdroid, if only
>>507100947Link Order is insanely busted.Princess and Alchemist together can melt through anything.Link Order 2 is insane against random encounters, and if you give Princess a Compression grimoire Link Order 2 becomes an elemental nuke.
>>507096053I don't know, I already felt Nexus had a bunch of weapon types. Quite often you'd beat a boss and all you get is a fist weapon. Like who's running pug in Nexus?
>>507108001You missed the point entirely anon, it's not about number of types, I just like having types that match the portrait. It's like even exp autism.
>>507078964>Opposite problem, I really like the map drawing, and miss it whenever it's not there in any other dungeon crawlers.even the ones where they have mapping (generally auto) functions, I really miss the ability to put notes or icons on the map
>>507110695i wish they had drawn the portraits to hve the weapons the class uses in many cases, like why do princess have a weird onion stick sword instead of sword or rapier
>>507096420I recall most of those unique skills weapons having worse stats than what I already have most of the time so I think I didn't bother with them outside of niche cases. 3's problem is shared by pretty much every game in the series, most loot falls under the category of consumable, outdated gear (like a boot that could be purchased a floor ago), or meme status weapons like you mentioned. If anything id argue 3 had a bit more excitement because the occasional book was very cool to have, it's a tangible and permanent improvement to a party member. On the topic of books I strongly preferred 3's approach over 4's. They were far more rare but you could max all your stats. Completely unnecessary but I enjoy having that option, I love making maxed out units.
>>507123471I ran a really crappy team in 5, the equipment skills seriously carried me a lot of the time
>>507095664Recommend a party for III based on the preferences in the chart
Max stress etriams
>>507125216Four purple hat zodi, one white hat zodi.
>>507128750why are one of the purple hats smiling?why do one of the purple hats have thick eyebrows?
>>507131491purples are mysterious
>>507125216Princess ArbalestHopliteWildlingNinjaRetire the Wildling into Shogun and catch it up when you unlock it and have Ninja get clones around that time, before that you can use status
tfw dont wanna get beat up by the boss anymore
>>507144826just winit's that easy
>Boiling Lizard owns me so hard the 3DS crashesI-is that normal?
>>507150976yes? it overheats your system if you let it use too many moves
>>507114789>like why do princess have a weird onion stick sword instead of sword or rapierIt's the more creative approach. And it's an all encompassing way to include design elements from all the equitable weapon types Sovereigns have, kind of like how War Magus's use DIY spears to help visualize for both players who want to equip a sword AND ones who qant to equip a staff.Also, giving the Sovereign a non-functional and more ceremonial weapon helps indicate that the class is more of a supportive role, opposed to a rapiee which might suggest more martial prowess.
Bros, just saw that all games are at 60% discount in steam and I was about to try it. What am in for? Only similar thing I played was Galleria. Also, should I start with 1 ? or is it too outdated?
>>507168524the normal recommendation is go 1-2-3, or just go straight to 3, depending on how much time you want to sink and whether you want to see the mechanics progress over time, or if you just want to get into a more polished product>What am in for?slow and steady dungeon crawling, your team ramps up over time so that it does feel rewarding once they start getting good but you'll be fragile early gameAlso the kind of game that encourages you to be a little autistic and think about who your characters are because the NPCs and general plot (while not bad) are not the focus
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125427506
>>507168524Yes, you should start with 1 (not Untold) and play them in release order.
Stay warm etriams
>>5071685243 is the best one out of those so buy that one first and and beat it, then decide if you want to play more of these games before wasting money on 2 other games you won't play.
I headcanon all my gathering parties to be clones of a single genetically engineered gathering creature. That's why all members of a gether party have the same name with different numbers. For example my party in I was survivalists (non eye patch girl) named Pooka 1-5.
>>507199487My favorite part of EO3HD was how I could finally make all my farmbots look like robots
Favorite attack animation?
Starting EO1 for the first, any thing funny I should know about going in
>>507207641Blade Recoil is really cool>>507210525Don't know about funny but>Protector and Troubadour are going to be mandatory for the late game>Landy and Survivalist are busted>having a backup squad of survivalists focused entirely on gathering and encounter rate lowering skills is helpful for keeping your funds up >It will take 4 iterations of the series before mage archetype classes stop falling off a cliff by lategame
>>507210525Immunize is pretty funny
>>507210525you will suffer a lot in post game without troubadour and protectorlike really, really a lot
hello EO brosI just finished 1 on the DS and I was wondering if I should do the postgame. From what I've seen online it sounds like the 6th stratum is very annoying and would like to hear your opinions.Also I'm interested in playing more games in the series but before jumping right into 2 I wanted to know if it improves on the mapping system. I didn't like having to come up with a cardinal direction system using icons to indicate the direction of sand conveyor belts or using walls creatively to connect different lillypad paths even if both were kinda funny so I need to know if 2 improves on that kinda thing with better icons and symbols or if should just skip to 3 and play 2 through Untold/HD.
>>507226323>was wondering if I should do the postgame.do you have a troubadour and protector? If the answer is yes then it will be fun.
>>507228579will she do?
>>507226323Sure, the maps are hellish but the random encounters themselves are not that bad, and at this point you’re already close enough to the end that you might as well stick with it.EO2 has arrow icons and 3 different floor colors so it’s a lot better when it comes to mapping. Just a word of warning, if you’re the type to get autistic about filling the whole map/stepping on every tile (like I am) EO1 post-game will make you hate yourself, so you better swallow your pride.>>507231706No, you need L5 elemental skills, and exactly L5.
Cute-trian Odyssey
>>507232494I did check every single wall as I walked every single hallway, even in the 5th stratum when I soon realized there likely wouldn't be anything to find. I might just say fuck it for the entire stratum and just try to get to the end at all costs if what you say is true.>exactly L5Why level 5 specifically? I really did not want to have to rest/retire...
>>507232494I hate not stepping on every tile, i can't do it
>>507233565Yup, I play like this too: take a step, look left, look right, repeat. There are two specific post-game floors where you won’t be able to do this unless you’re a hardcore masochist. There aren’t any good items in chests anyway iirc, just FOE drops.Seems you haven’t put any points in these skills, so wouldn’t you need to rest her either way? Anyway, the reason is at L5 they negate elemental attacks, at 6 an onwards they absorb the damage but also stop negating the secondary effects so they’re not worth it. Post-game bosses have AOE elemental attacks that are essentially instakills if you don’t have the appropriate Anti- skill up. Technically you can make them just barely survivable with boosted Immunize and Troubadour’s elemental debuffs, but the usual strategy is spamming Protector’s appropriate elemental skill.
>>507210525Medic can be an excellent damage dealer if you max out attack and CaduceusIf you have a Medic and a Troubadour you can stay in the dungeon indefinitely without ever resting… as long as you don’t mind all the loot going to waste after you hit the inventory cap
>>507233261cute
>>507263795vit
>>505694968Princess is very high VIT
>>507273640fat?
Lucky Hammering Divine Judges is kinda terrible
>>507275446nice titties but nipples too big
I like farmers
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Stop posting about princess I'm tired of seeing it! My friends on Armoroad send me memes, on Etria it's fucking memes! I was in a server, right? And all of the channels are just Princess stuff. I showed my Hoplite underwear to my girlfriend and the logo, I flipped it and I said, "Hey, babe, when the underwear is OHOHOHO!" Haha, ding ding ding ding ding ding ding, ding-ding-ding! I fucking looked at a trashcan and I said, "That's a bit REGAL RADIANCE!" I looked at my penis, I think of a princess' scepter and I go, "Penis? More like pen-sess!" Aaaaaaargh!
>>507286501
>>507275446sexo
prince is welcome too right?
I need to rest my characters (EO3) but I'm not sure what to, I want the elemental walls now but 35 points is so much, I don't have a main hopliteI miss grimoire
>>507289946I remember resting in the lava caverns to get both the ice wall and monarch march.It was well worth it for the area and mid boss fight.
>>507275446Huh I've never seen this one before and I thought I exhausted the (very small) tag for this series
>>507316087delete this
Princess, HopliteBuccaneer, Zodiac, ArbalistOpinions?
>>507338015That's the same team I went with, but with glad instead of hoplite. Very nice
>>507339229Did you keep A in the back or go for Front Mortar?
>>507341902I went full regal radiance memes with Princess so I kept him in the back. You usually go front mortar, and with a zodiac you won't really need more elemental damage anyway
>>507338015Are you going to do element chases with Bucc? You have the party for it at least, even if the chases aren't very good.
>>507342830Not sure yet, either way I’ll probably put one point in each just for utility.
>>507303029>MIZUWhy is she drinking water?
>>507346657What about her breast milk?
Getting drops from FOEs in II is like pulling teeth. It wasn't this bad in I. I feel like every time I want to get any sort of tangible reward from an foe (which already gives no exp) I have to do a mini Dragon Trio drop grind.
Is Shogun good or is it just subclass bait like Bushi?
Is Protector the only class with functional AI in EMD? All it has to do is boost Def/Aggro and run towards the enemy, and it does it flawlessly.
>>507362757AI Protector + Any other class is generally considered the easiest way to play that game without the princess glitch
>>507351237Presumably she doesn't allow you to drink that at the bar, either, out of propriety. A private room, on the other hand...
>>507354784Cute!
etriam but Toriko
All farmers team.
No farmers team.
2 farmers team
farmer?
Who here actually used a Farmer in their main party? What were your thoughts on it?
All farmer team made me think of footy. We should start a VGL team someday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl3q7QL5I8c
>>507409920>actually using one of the super big male ygg portraitsThat just feels wrong.
>>507409920>level 30 team>already a millionaire Holy grind autism
Buccaneer>ninja
>>507416995Fortress-chan...
>>507421527Monks shouldn't wear pantsu
Marry Christmas, /eog/ / /sqg/ Hope you get something good, well deserved for still keeping this general up after all these years 10+ now
>>507435294
>>507444816bag filled with filled condoms
>>507401669I've actually considered this a few times, but with how dead things are usually along with my autism that would make me need to do 99% of the aesthetic work myself and my lack of ability, I decided against it. Maybe if 6 ever comes out.
>>507400368I used one in a 3HD run. I thought they were actually pretty good, their labyrinth skills are great, you can just turn off encounters/damage tiles and also have a free thread with To Market. They made going through the 3rd stratum a breeze. Not having to buy threads in the early game is great, you just need to watch the farmer's TP so you always have enough to warp back. I had mine subbed as a club gladiator and the Farmer's high luck was good with the arm bind and panic skills. I eventually gave them a stun forged club and when combined with stun attack, they had a very good stun rate. Lullaby can also become fairly reliable and put groups of enemies to sleep if they're fast enough. They obviously did poor damage but they're good with ailments/binds and support roles in battle.
>>507451568>>507460481alive!
bros where's your christmas spirit?
>>507483658Sorry we only have Frozen Grounds. Get moody.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVjZ4jRM4Cg
Warm, comfy, and happy etriams
which etriams would give the best christmas presents
Shota prince and his /ss/ harem team
>>507504878Healers would probably be the most thoughtful, Survivalists would likely do something hand made for you
>>507504878princess would give you something very expensive but probably not relevant to your interests
I've beaten EMD story and I now understand why Shiren fans think this is the worst MD other than Chocobo 1. Hopefully the reset dungeon will be fun at least.
>>507504878>>507511279Blonde Princess would give you a box of expensive sweets or top grade black tea. Purple Princess would give you an exotic gift that looks cool but is useless. Smug Princess would give you _____________________ sex.
Are Buff bot classes (troubadour, princess, ect..) good game design?
>>507524491I didn't really like Shaman, but otherwise I didn't see the issue.
>>507516454I want all of those
>>507524491Yeah. Why would they be bad game design? They contribute substantially and distinctly to whichever party they're in, at the cost of not being a more efficient damage unit themselves. >>507524787I like shaman, but I think they flubbed a bit with how their two titles were done. Most of what you want from the class is already in the base shaman kit, so compared to pretty much every other EOV class the upgrade point matters a lot less. I like passive healing in general tho - small amounts continuously is preferable to bigger invested chunks.
>>507524491EO1 Troubadour, not really because of the buffs lasting forever, which in most cases leaves it with nothing to do after you get your buffs up. Though that’s also what makes the class great.
Meiri Churisimassu
>>507543394delete this
>>507547216I can't I'm too underleveled
>>507411262>Level 30 with three crownsIts obvious a NG+ or super late game file.
>>507524491yeaheo1 - "free" turns were either item turns or just basic attacks. but most of the time most common fights didnt last more than 1-3 turnseo2 - i never used a bard, my war magi did some buffingeo3 - my princess was always busy with items, healing and rebuffingeo4 - beat dance brigade motherfucker, also most fights barely lasted 1-3 turns. being able to chain attack like that was pretty cool thoeo5 - for some reason i cant remember who the buffer wasnexus - didnt princess main class this time but the attack order sure came in handy later onuntold - didnt main class bard but had some grimoiresuntold 2 - i dont even remember using bard grimoires
>>5075624275 has shamanin chain parties they're pretty busy since they're a key component of your damage with their 1 turn buff to elemental damage that consumes an elemental weapon buff.I never used one outside that but I think they have plenty to do still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gos8zB3UnWY
>>507562427>eo5 - for some reason i cant remember who the buffer wasShaman bros....
I think it's cool that Drakongrace Shinjuku in Metaphor has literally the exact same layout as Lost Shinjuku.
>tp up in II goes to 92%Everything about this game is so charmingly bizarre.
>>507594176comfy looking corpse
>>507578890I take it back, I am reminded why I didn't even like Lost Shinjuku in EO1.This shit is so long. It feels twice as long as every other dungeon so far.
War Revive
>playing EO3 for the first time>even EXP autism>doing fine, get to 4th floor>decide to start doing the sea stuff>sea quests require you to replace party members with NPCsIt’s over… My perfectly even EXP…
>II Scylla>have no idea what she's going to do so I just set up for damage>mutilates my party in the opening salvo (I thought cry soul was supposed to be inaccurate and needed leg bind to land...) >but dark hunter survives and smacks her back with 5 Baits, taking off 1/3rd of her health in one turn >proceed revive my Ronin and keep her alive long enough to get off two Midareba which is the other 2/3rdsIt's not even kill of be killed, it's killing AND be killed. Both player and boss damage is nuts, meanwhile random encounters feel very safe so far. I wouldn't feel comfortable walking around with 60% of my health to save TP in either of the Untolds.
>>507627021Even with turn 1 G+DH force skill cheese she still fucking destroyed me, beat her by the skin of my teeth with 3 characters dead.
>>507625448I honestly was thankful, it broke my tism for me
>>507603185>>507578890Drakongrace is a simplified Shinjuku because you can just following the glowing red dots, turn off the FOEs and then explore the dungeon afterwards without having to worry about the gimmick.
>>507625448You'll have to do every sea quest 4 times each to get every reward (first time clear + the normal rewards from the 3 quests) so you can cycle around your party members for each one to balance out exp bars. It's more effort than it's worth but you have the option if you're really dedicated.
>>507627491I must've gotten lucky then because I didn't have the force skills (charging them up is a pain, but if you do you break fights, really don't like how they balanced the mechanic in II) and managed to just barely hang on in a few key moments to fire off attacks and revive people so that I ended the fight with everyone alive. My team is P/DH/R//H/WM which is about as strong a composition as you can get in II, which helps. It means that my damage is so massive that I can stumble to victory so long as both damage dealers don't die.
>>507639274she should smile more
>>507632598Yeah I had the same but Gunner over Protector. I was trying to avoid force skill abuse too, that was actually the first time I used Gunner's force skill, but after a few attempts getting completely destroyed I just said fuck it.
>>507640206Doing it wrong.
>>507639274>>507640206>>507642981here for the emotional range
>page 10goodbye etriamstime for the big sleep
creating new thred
Next Stage... Death.
New thread >>507652552
>>507655402Anon!
