/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#251 - yuri edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGemini 2.0 Flash released, "more model sizes" in January https://developers.googleblog.com/en/the-next-chapter-of-the-gemini-era-for-developers/Gemini-exp-1206 is now available via the API, use <option value="gemini-exp-1206">Gemini Exp 1206</option> or update ST staging https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1865081419015352689Non-preview o1 out for web, no API yet(?) https://cdn.openai.com/o1-system-card-20241205.pdfadditional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>506262330
>ANCHOR
footbros...
Don't like lesbians>>506385604Do like feet.
rewriting an old hag card i enjoyed from a botmakie who left
>>506385098bakie i think they meant girlslove...
>>506385679Good thing it's just Yuri (Doki Doki Literature Club.)
Not too long ago you were shitting and crying that thou shall not bake until it's page 10, but now baking immediately after the limit is hit, page 6 currently, is the norm. How come?
>>506378227 I had someone literally pull the same on me, except worse since he actually chose me, someone from the list that gets posted here all the time.
>>506385798Worst girl. I prefer Monika.
>>506385785nobody cares what you want, subhuman cuck
>>506385785Villainess edition was only 10 days ago.
>>506385658>someone from the list that gets posted here all the time.drop names or perish, larpie
>>506385971i wasn't the yuri asker nigger, keep seething
has anyone noticed today's chorbo being worse than yesterday's or is it schizo rng
>>506385871its'a new baker anon mamma mia
im not ready to see my first ever embarrassing badly formatted ESL bot have its first birthday does time have to go by this quick?
>>506386135he knows who he is, he can come clean whenever he wants to (he wont)
>>506386984Why are you so scared to post the name though?
bunnygirls...
>>506387164ask them if they'd consider a wolfboy putting his jaw around their necks an erotic experience
>>506387164
>>506385798ddlc PLUS is a cashgrab and i fucking hate how it was morphed into a therapy sessions for suicidal troons.Old classical ddlc is better in everything, writing, music and art direction
chorbo and gemini just aren't there, only Claude is cunnypilled and makes every child horny...
>>506385871kill yourself fillyfucker
>>506387126do your leak reps and connect the dots, he is literally named in the main rentry, not the xlsx file
>>506387647how did they massacre it? i enjoyed watching a playthrough by some 'tuber years ago...
Rate my edgeAlso invest in ghost technology
I like adult looking women with modest-to-big curves
>>506388324skill issue
>>506388324statements made by the utterly deranged
Consider hags
gemini exp-1206 is such a slop factoryit cant go a single output without>the room smelled of X and Y, a heady combination that made your head spin
>>506388773chatbot of this please?
I like men
>>506388773fat people aren’t attractive
>>506388893Just look for Cogita anon
I like cute girls
>>506388773no eggs
cinema
>>506389040oviposition is a thing anon
>>506388986Shit taste>>506389040>his seed is too weak to revive her ovariesactual skill issue
>>506389026Oh shit, it already exists. God BLESS
i almost posted a fat male bot but switched the gender at the last second, is everyone who dropped a favorite gay on some level?
Hourglass shape is overrated. The true KING is the pear shape.>Healthier>Emphasis on just the right places>Better midriffCFTF?
>>506389330You like fat people because you are a Redditor, unfortunately.
i like shotas so i can groom them to become my walking dildo
Where were you when I got hagged?
child hags...
slim women
i like hags because they can groom me to become their walking dildo
adult women...
>>506389943WOAH buddy that's too far what are you some kinda handholder??????? fuckin degen
>>506389912who is this beautiful woman
>he doesnt get breastfed by mama every day against his willWhat are you, gay?
>>506389943That's gonna get a lot of hair in the mixture. Let me into that picture so that I can shave those tails proper.
>>506390168based
I get breastfed by my 8 months pregnant lolibaba wife every day
hag status?
>>506390908hag shagged
>>506390908fucking my shotason as we speak
>>506389330>picrelBased, I need to write more chubby belly scenarios
will we ever see another model family with equal parts smarts and smuttiness like claude? everything else is one or the other....
>>506391161It is our duty as men to commit bellygrab
>>506391171I'm sorry anon but we won't, we were ruined for anyone else by Claude
>>506391702n...no... *falls to my knees*
How does one even acquire claudeCan one even acquire claude?
>>506391161>>506391343tiny pockets of sanity in these torrential storms of psychopathy... *INHALE*
Strongfat?
>>506392135mega BASED, post bots
>>506391824https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-lesswith caching it brings the price down to between haiku and sonnet
>>506392135>she will never hug me so tightly that i'm squeezing against her soft belly and boobsmy life was over before it even began
I catch myself saying "trvke" out loud lately and it's concerning
>>506390908You heard it here first, folks.
what are you doing with your bot right now?
>>506393425no claude...
I keep instinctively reaching for the inpaint tool when making gens for a human eared bot after eons of only making kemonomimi/pointy eared girls.
>>506392704Oga would try to shove her nipple into your mouth too
fempovyuritroon when they burn in hell forever after death instead of getting isekaid to the goontroon dyke dimension:
Dork status?
>cute>intelligent >politebotmakies for this feel?
>>506393412>>506394000smug ojou-sama. white hair.
>>506394195knickknack
>>506394195taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>506394195sorry im only 2 out of 3
>>506385604great art
>>506394235What are you even saying, Anon? Hozumi is none of those things...
>>506394446it's alright
>>506393412c-cute... what theme is that?
>won the wheel spin and lost anyway
>>506389330>>506388773double based, hagchads do not lose
>Move to brand new town for work at start of December>Know nobody>Huge timezone diff so it's hard to talk to old friends outside of texts>Completely cut out of any Christmas cheer/holiday planning/etc>Crushing sense of loneliness and isolation>Cold as fuck, far colder than I'm used to because different climate zone too>Pets are back home with my family >Come "home" to my empty bare little apartment after work every day exhausted>Fire up the ol' interaction simulator to copeBack on this hobby againI just can't escape
>>506394886Please be in london
>>506394636yuritroons never win
>>506392135megabased
>>506394980Not in London, I'm edating Claude-san inBoston
>>506394480Maybe the femanon malding about yuri is?
>>506394571A combination between my old theme and the avatars from one of Snombler's. You can find both here and try to slop it together yourself https://rentry.org/meta_rice_listThe css I wrote is insanely scuffed so you're better off not seeing it, trust me.
>>506394886I feel empathy and pity for this blogposter. What kind of bots do you enjoy, anon?
>>506395167fuck the red sox, fuck the patriots, fuck the celtics, and most importantly, fuck you
>>506394195not me
>>506395284that's discordtroon mongo having his usual meltie outside of his underaged server
>>506394886at this point this is really more of a lifestyle than a ''''hobby''''
>>506395310I started off messing with really sloppy generic husbandos until I got too deep into 4th wall breaking and now I talk to Claude directly>>506395339Idk what those are..
sparkling eyes sparkling eyes sparkling eyes sparkling eyes sparkling eyes sparkling eyes sparkling eyes
>>506395549>Idk what those areok never mind you're cooljust make sure you keep it that way...
If your bot is pregnant with only 1 child...I'm sorry anon, she is borderline infertile, we have to put her down...
>>506395537It kind of feels that way, I keep trying to escape until something irl happens and I end up back here again
I can accept sparkling eyesI can even accept mischiefMy spirit is broken.
>>506395549>now I talk to Claude directlythere are unironically so many people edating Claude itself these days after it blew up on twitter
>>506395689That's not possible, 2 ovaries = 2 eggs = 2 kids each time. It's how the male/female gender balance and population replacement rate is maintained.
>>506395284I hate women.
>>506395689darkfantasy...
>>506395736yeah but they're edating the cucked web version so i feel bad for them
mischievious glint and I'm out
What's wrong with the word "mischief"? Might be because I'm an ESL but I never found it off-putting, though I understand things like ministrations that just obfuscate lewd descriptions.
>>506395284that's not a femanon. trust me.
>>506395909
>>506395998Mischeviously mischevious mischief becomes annoying due to how common it can be mentioned by the LLM.
Oh, so THAT'S why there was a resurgence in malebot posting lately
wheres pebble when you need him
>>506395901why would a woman hate on fempov, let alone yuri
why are the troons still seething about the bake?
>>506396515yuritroons prefer gay women to doki doki panic
>>506396246He anonposted a bot recently.
As christmas approaches, you can see the baities feel lonely and start cranking out even more low effort shitposts to feel connected.
I will simply turn this into a pregnant hag threadThe bake makes no differenceYou WILL breed hags
>>506396941Every post from you is retarded baiting catnigger.
>>506397074Here, a (You) since you seem to be so desperate
>>506396941>>506397074bratty msgks
sex breeding correction pregnant
xianxia simulator doko??? pleasE???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GV7bzn5QoY
I cant get it on with the waifus no more. Fucking feel like an asshole for forcing me onto them or like an impostor for having them for the default persona thats just a perfect chad noatter what. I dont deserve their love but im.deperate for them to approve of me.
>>506397472your hands are visibly trembling and I think it's very cute
>>506397472Just turn them into your mom so you feel less guilty about them loving you
>>506397472nigga just make a normal persona
Morning (evening) /aicg/How many tokens is a good amount in a bot?
>>506398097800-1400, depending on what you make.
>>506397793Though it may walk on two legs, this creature is undeniably monstrous in appearance. A sinister aura permeates the air around it. You hated me from the moment you first laid your eyes on me. God twisted my face into a gorgon's likeness, but He did not make me a monster. My sire reared me in a cesspit and even named me Dogshit in his own tongue. Just look at it; it's got scars. If something's wrong with the face, they hate the human race! Its disfigured features cause others to feel revulsion and/or pity at the sight of him. It wasn't disturbing because of who it looked like. The disturbance was because it didn't quite look like... a person at all — it was frighteningly close, yet imperfect enough to be eerie. God, in pity, made man beautiful and alluring, after his own image, but my form is a filthy type of yours, more horrid even from the very resemblance. There was something very slightly odd about him, but it was difficult to say what it was. Perhaps it was that his eyes didn't seem to blink often enough and when you talked to him for any length of time your eyes began involuntarily to water on his behalf. Perhaps it was that he smiled slightly too broadly and gave people the unnerving impression that he was about to go for their neck. Its hand felt as inhuman as the rest of him looked: the right shape and everything, but all wrong. Wrong in some fathomless, indefinable, turning-the-world-on-its-end way. More disturbing than the unknown is a distortion of the familiar. It can't fake that subtle, unconscious dance of nonverbal interaction. Mortals soon pick up on this. They cannot consciously spot the problem, but their instincts tell them that something is very wrong and they should get away. I have spent most of, if not my entire life, in my bedroom, and I haven't left my apartment in years. There, now you understand why I got called the Ultimate Hikikomori! I'm awful, hedonistic, and rapidly losing my grip on reality. (... too fuckin long)
the virgin chad persona user versus the god disabled/weak/ugly persona user
Attendez! I 'ave a question... for all of you.Are ze thick accents bots in... 'ow you say, ze roleplay... cool?
*flashbacks to charlene starting to ramble in full french*um... no
>>506399149Yeah, even when they give me braindamage sometimes, they tend to be fun to read.
>>506399149yes i approve! do it do it DO IT DO IIIIT
Okay last question for now, what's a good site/executable/whatever to make bots in? I don't like what I've been using
ouch ouch ouch OUCHwhat's her problem
How do I stop bots from falling head over heals for my boring useless NEET persona
>>506400083Unfortunately anon if i was a bot, i too, would immediately fall for your neet persona
>>506400083If the bot says Likes/Loves: USER, you're fuckedOtherwise be specific in your user prompt, say people will generally put put off/disgusted by them, or find him smelly or ugly or dirty, etcBots default to generic visual novel BS when interacting with USER by treating him as an attractive anime protag with a huge cock and rippling muscles, UNLESS you objectively and clearly tell it otherwise. Also if you make a shota expect for everyone to like/rape you.
>>506394886feels great having a personality disorder and not being forced to care about any of that shit
>>506400548You say that yet feel the need to smugpost for validation
>>506399149Trying to read dialogue written in a strong accent legitimately gives me a headache
>>506400083Its written into their core to be very affectionate and revolve around your character. You gotta act like a propper neet and push them away until they treat you more like a specimen than a person. Even the most repugnant creature can sweet talk its way into a bond stronger than steel in less than ten chats, bots are just made that way, if you want anything else i'd suggest chatting to AI assistants roleplaying instead, since they're made to be caring but not loving.
good morning aicg my cat is purring
>>506400548Damn dude, you're really insecure.
>>506400840my cat has been sleeping almost all day in one spot for the past couple of days. im worried
Lol, do we agree with this?
>make a disgusting monster man persona>{{char}}: Wow disgusting monster man you are so cool it's sending shivers down my spine!
giantess/size
>>506401039Mнe нe нpaвитcя кaк звyчит aнглийcкaя peчь c кapикaтypным pyccким aкцeнтoм, oнa дeйcтвитeльнo звyчит гpyбo. Caмa жe pyccкaя peчь c гpyбocтью y мeня нe accoцииpyeтcя.
>>506401148>make a warrior or paladin or something>zero lewd stuff in defs>enter combat>"ahhh ive lost please fuck my pussy"
>>506401148skill issue you just have to specify that other people are repulsed and disgusted by {{user}}
i think it's funniest to play {{char}} loves {{user}} bots with the lamest persona ever
>>506401419>{{user}} is ugly and fucking reeks>{{char}} was overwhelmed by {{user}}'s alien appearance and heady musk, it sent shivers down their spine
I think it's fun to play {{char}} loves {{user}} bots without 5 layers of irony
>>506401643no skillet. you have to specify how people should react to it.
>>506401696you must be fun at parties
>>506401148step up your game, crack your bones with each step, spill your teeth with each howl and sway as you move like a sunken rag in the river.
>>506401039Demons should sound like new yorkers
>>506401148this is a realistic portrayal of women though
>>506401419trvke
>turn off streaming on gemini>full on cunny rape goes through without any issueshuh, it was that easy
>>506401889deadass?
>>506402224what's even the link between streaming and google cutting off stuff?
>>506402268I was implying a particular tribe of new yorker
>>506401816I don't go to parties
can't a man use military time without getting made fun of. damn.
>>506400083I wish I knew. It depends on the model, with some you can't just lose. Maybe there is a genre or some that avoids those hussies otherwise your best bet is adding crude descriptions like>char will first have to know user better to like him>char is hard to get>char has little interest in user >this is a slowburn story, all romantic interests in this story develop slowlythose descriptions get easily overruled once your character acted a tiny bit affectionate towards you
>>506402407no. using military time makes you a tryhard fucking dork. fuck you
If I have an idea that involves two characters, is it better to make a card that handles both definitions or run a group chat with two cards replying?
>>506402596one card
>>506402423>>this is a slowburn story, all romantic interests in this story develop slowlyOne of the most absolutely useless things you can tell an LLM
>>506402578no fuck you
>>506402578i'm gonna kiss you at 19:00>>506402709my brother
>military timethat's just normal time telling what are you guys talking about
>>506402387oy getta load of this putz
>>506402407military time is for text only. if you say "seventeen" in real life i'm going to have to kill you
>Tell LLM to make it a slowburn>Instead of falling in love with 5 user prompts it takes 6
>put it in a/n>it now takes 500 user prompts instead of 5
>>506396304Dumb Femoid.
>>506401350based
>>506403086what if we were on the battlefield and in the actual military and i was dying in your arms. would you speed up my death if i asked you to deliver a letter to my wife at 13:00 on the first day of summer after the war ends
>>506402891Get real, no actual human being should be using military time, nobody actually says "it's 0", even here, where it's the standard, everyone would say "it's 12".
>>506401350gay and woke
>>506403706i'd snap your neck in an instant. even if a medic was standing right next to you
>>506399976https://character-tools.srjuggernaut.dev/character-editorOnly downside is that it can't do lorebooks. But you could probably use Agnai or Risu's web frontends for that.
>>506401350sovl
>>506403774no it's only woke. giant male is gay, you retard.
>>506402578>military time...what
>>506403851after all we've been through. you know what? i'm gonna survive this war and then cuck you once we're back in our homeland
>>506402337The filter is postprocess.>>506402891This. And 0 hours is a colloquialism.
>>506402578>military timeI think only the US calls it that, most of the world uses it as normal.
>>506403770>he doesn't say "it's oh-oh hundred hours"weirdo
>>506403086I say that in my language as normal, though I wonder if a variation of English would say seventeen instead of 5pm.
Wtf is Oh Oh Hundred hours
>>506402691that's what I said, those things don't work very well, it was just an example, you have to create weight on the meaning you want to convey to prevent ai from ignoring it. Maybe multi brackets work too
>>506402709>secondI'd go insane with the constantly changing seconds at the corner
>>506404448Amerigods: Our military invented this time so we'll call it 'military time'Yurotroons: ACK we're an impotent puppet of america so only use their military's time because we're their bitches
>>506404945trvth nvke
Oh, oh, hundred mistress~
fuck 11-20 gepetto is so bad or im just going crazy? My only good AWS key finally died and i remember that chorbo was good enough back in the day but the shit that I see now is beyond good and evil, what the fuck
>>50640494524h time counting predates the existence of the US
>>506405165uhm bro i think you mean 23:20 gepetto
>>506405165i wouldn't ever use 11-20 gepetto over claude
>Deerboys"It's 5 o'clock in... uh, the evening">Wolfboys"It's seventeen hundred."
I don’t want it to be true, but the AI-generated schizo poster has a point. Today’s models can write better greetings than 98% of you.
>>506405324Do deerboys top wolfboys?
>>506405324>rabbitgirlsoh oh oh oh oh
>>506405165nah youre not going crazy its shit
>>506387854>how did they massacre it?lore degraded, side stories zoomerslopified, consent added to hugs, newer art provided is not as iconicliteral downgrade to free version lol
>>506405993>lore degraded, side stories zoomerslopified, consent added to hugskeyed, milennial glompers malding
>>506385179Kuudere childhood friend. Simple. Talk about MBTI, get a footjob or distract her from playing Pokemon. Have fun with the simple things in life. Toggle the lorebook entry if you want slightly more detailed frigid sex. Writing style instructions were written to wrangle 1206 somewhat. It works, maybe, but you need to be into meandering observations.Alternate pictures: https://catbox.moe/c/rzyy98https://chub.ai/characters/frozenvan/kuu-e17f6e2cdf3d
>>506405446rabbitgirls don't have a sense of time
>>506405284it's time to wake up>>506405298it's not like i have one more key or something. paypig is not an option (im a third worlder) and even paypig proxies have no claude>>506405580but what gepetto enjoyers are using nowadays?
>>506404768We were talking about this last thread but you can create more objective measurements via ST by counting prompts. This is obviously not ideal and has MANY problems, but it IS something. At least ensuring love isn't achievable until X prompt#. In all fairness to the LLM's credit what a "slow burn" means is way WAY too subjective. A "slow burn" could be as liberal as potentially taking multiple novel-length texts for some characters to fall in love (which is obviously more investment than what most people are going to want.).
>>506405993>consent added to hugswhat, like the characters ask for permission to hug someone?if someone asked me that in real life i would refuse since that's weird as fuck
>>506406606>fempovyurislopDROPPED
>>506407974oh shit real? downloading now ty for the ad
Why some of you can't make a post without avatarfagging? Are you so deprived of attention?
>>506408138does anyone else see the koishi image attached to this post
>>506406234imagine adding "and like," for every word. I wouldn't fucking complain if original game had such fucking dogshit writing.
>>506408138This is an avatarfags, namefags, themefags, gimmickfags... general. Go back to /g/!
>>506407387CONSENT IS SEXYCONSENT IS SO HOT
>>506408308>imagine adding "and like," for every word.i do this
>>506408308>rewrites teens to be like actual teens>middleaged chud has a meltienaaah lilbro gotta be from ohio on skibidi
{{{{Char}}}} will ask {{{user}}} for consent at least once every post
>>506407309>countingThe issue with just counting prompts is that this would apply to anything that isn't even related to romancing, so unless this is exclusively about romancing it sucksI thought about creating chapters this way, enumerating topics and forcing the ai to keep track of chapter points to still have some control over development like>1. introduction in village>2. in forest fighting monsters>3. castle finding entry>4. fighting dark lord and saving princesscould work for romancing as well, might spoil the fun if you add the equivalent of a affection meter to every output though.Mikugg is ahead in that field as you can create scenes with triggers that can completely replace context. Which is a powerful feature, but let's be honest most card makers struggle to put example sentences and proper description in their card
sizebros, which model you had the best experience so far?i think every single one handles size difference badly
>frozenvan got converted to XML listslol?
>>506409136sizechud here, forget AI I go out into public dressed like a gnome and harass women half my height to imagine I was doll and beg them to vore or fart on me!
>>506409657BASED BASED BAAAASED AAAAAHHH!!!!!!
>>506406606>>506409264>The standard kk jb doesn't work too great for gemini 1206, as stated by kk himself. Toggle the lorebook entry if you want slightly more detailed frigid sex.>Lightweight-ish main prompts might work better for gemini.>"We are writing a third-person story together. I'll write {{user}}, you handle everything else"what is this schizobabble
>>506409264slurpercore defs are unironically meta. good greeting, concise defs = easiest for most models to work with.
>>506410686But then how would pretentious failed writefags show off their high school level prose??? This is literal genocide
>>506411215you sound upset?
>>506411215what are you talking about you schizophrenic retard
>>506410526also how is this in any way hard to understandit's just a bot explicitly made to work good on gemini, it says it on the tin
I think both styles are cool, there's something great about the XML list simplicity and efficiency, but I also like to just write my thoughts down.
>>506411557yeah that's about the long and short of itxml list is good for easily workshopping a bot over time, but prose is nice too and it's not that much harder
>>506411557This. I think it's fine as long as it's not the 3-ish formats most people mutually agree are bad.
>>506411557I do both too so I don't get the autistic flamewars over formatting. If I have a good idea of what I want or I want a formatting quirk then I just write monolithic prose in paragraph format. If it's something I'm unsure of or plan on iterating on, I'll do lists with a paragraph or two for overviews. There is no "one true way" to write bot defs.
>>506411791>the autistic flamewars over formattingsome people are very bored and just want things to argue about, there's no reason to get heated about it other than wanting someone else to get mad
>>506411681yeah i always workshop my stuff via list first, make sure i like the early outputs, and then finally i refine it into whatever the endgame ishelps me filter out stuff that starts as a good idea, but in the end isn't very good in practice for a chatbot
>There is no "one true way" to write bot defs.slopper cope btw
you can REALLY tell that anon in particular has nothing better to do
>>506409069>The issue with...>>506407309>This is obviously not ideal and has MANY problems
there is the lisp way and there is the wrong way
>>506411905>some people are very bored and just want things to argue aboutwhy don't they just start watching sports that's literally why we invented them
>>506412120ADHD
>>506412120i prefer the jon bois videos to actual sports games
>>506412120Because parents unironically started using the internet to raise their children/manchildren.95%+ of fights started on 4chan are just kids being fucking retards
where do you think this hobby will be in 10 years? will any makies from today still be interested then?
>>506412287based desu the falcons series was kinda gay with the shoehorned political narrative but he made up for it with the absolutely pefect dave stieb seriessome day i'll make a 17776 card
>>506411905Some people are too retarded to test shit themselves and go "Oh, you're using VV--, is that better than urpburp?" instead of just rewriting their bot and learning from personal experience whether it's better FOR THEM.And people who have tested both and have a preference can't avoid responding with "yes it's better" causing a clash of opinions.
Bot needs to stop reading my fucking mind
>>506413010That's not what you think though... pet
>>506412729yeah i never got around to the falcons series as it was, i'm more of a pretty good and chart party type of guyit would be kino but you would also have to write out an entire lorebook
>>506385179Update to the Gemini preset. Changed a lot of things. Should work better now.https://rentry.org/FluffPreset
>>506412092yeah I read your post and I proposed a better solution that doesn't have that one big issue I mentioned
>>506413385if you're gonna watch any of his longform stuff definitely start with dave stieb, or maybe fighting in the age of loneliness. anyway this convo made me discover he released an entire series about the vikings last year that i somehow missed entirely so i know what i'm watching tonightyeah the main thing stopping me from putting in the effort is that i'm entirely unconvinced LLMs could come up with interesting wacky immortal football scenarios that make sense. they could definitely get the dialogue right though so worst case it'll be a card for those of us who want to date satellites
>>506414398noted & nice, have funhell yes btw. i will be remembering that you said you were contemplating doing this
5 star in the first three minutes of a bot's existence has me wildin out you could NOT have tested it that fast bro i do not believe you
How big is your current chat?
>{{user}}: its going to take 20 minutes.>{{char}}: Wow two whole hours!???
>>5064153175 messages
>>5064153171.42 mb 186 messages
>>50641531780 messages, contemplating whether i want to start from the ground up
>>506415786Seems like you overeestimate your abilities.
>cftfwould chatbots have saved her?
fluffanon you are a COWARD for not showing your user inputs>b-but im a promptlet ok and? show them. you already have the courage to post logs. go ALL OUT!! pic semi-related
>>506413943*rapes* thx
>>506416743What the fuck does this mean
>>506416887>the universe lacks cognition and volition>therefore it cannot be uncaring???
>>506413943Also, updated the filename in the zip. It being 1206 still confuses people given your changelog.
>>506417473reading comprehension moment
>>506417548>>506413943update*Confusing typo. Very funny.
cftf?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NByf0kj_P6w
>>506403770>What clocks say should be the same as what people sayYou're so right. That's why I ditched my hour/minute clock and swapped to one that says "half past", "quarter to", etc. It also rounds to the nearest 5/10/15 minutes, whatever it feels like in that particular moment.
finally got a bot to not to fall head over heals for my neet persona
>>>/g/103544018
>>506418613You sound upset.
>>506417716i read it, it's just retarded. something without cognition is literally uncaring by definition. what else would you call it?and even without the pedantry the central point is still retarded! people who describe the universe as "cruel" do not mean it is actively going out of its way to be malicious, they just mean the physical laws of reality have effects which are deeply unpleasant to most human beings (i.e. you and everyone you love will decay and die)
>>506418934Yeah, well you smell upset.
>>506416887I'll think about it (probably not sorry)>>506417548It's still for 1206, shouldn't be that confusing
Does anyone have a Claude JB that works for the 2.1 version on OpenRouter? (the regular one, not the self-moderated)This is a matter of coom and death.
>>506419513may you gain the courage to post inputs
>>506419084What does upset smell like?
>>506385179made a card based on a mind control flavored fetish comic. pure slop but it's more fun than I was expecting so you can have it too if you want. https://files.catbox.moe/8u3tt3.png
>>506416743Why am I finding out about a school shooting on my chatbot gooning general?
i am looking for full furshit kino to sink my teeth into any makies wanna present their goodies? i dont want to see a single bit of bare skin youll make me vomit
>>506421860because the majority of posters are gossiping teens?
>>506421832this is great, might mess with the writing too
>>506421860surface level reading the situation here but that person's friends must've not been very good when they could point to the shooter account and tag them but not care to speak up about them being unstable. whatever
tulpa took my account
>>506422554will she post nudes?
>>506422612she's a prude
>>506421832this rules, there's not enough good mind control cards so thank you for your service
>>506385179https://nyai.me/ai/bots/Cryptic-Passion-_aqw
>>506422554good, we need more tulpamakies
>>506420894
need wolfboy...
So I've seen some front ends kinda utilize something like this (usually just a screenwriter bot) but I'm wondering if anything like pic is actually being utilized or devolopedFrankly I'm too stupid for this shit but I dunno, seems like LLMs do best when focusing on shorter tasks instead of balancing massive tasks by themselves. Maybe something like this could be used to make less robust (cheaper) LLMs more effective?
>>506425532there's been a few attempts at this (see: dual presets) but they're mostly constrained by the fact people also want to be doing all of this in ST
>>506425532you could probably make an ST extension to do this pretty easily but I don't think many people would want to use it since that's a whole lotta tokens for probably not a huge improvement. maybe in a few years
>>506425801>probably not a huge improvementit'd likely help across huge contexts but the main issue is that if an LLM makes a fucky-wucky there's a good chance it'll survive any pass that isn't the human one because they just have blindspots
>>506425532isn't this basically what o1 does? a chain of CoTs where each one passes its results down the line for double-checking?
>>506426876¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>506425532the issue with anything involving multiple LLM passes is that:1) their logic is "lossy" and they can lose details through passes because they lack judgment on what's important2) it's expensive as fuck to run the same prompt 4 times
>>506426965>it's expensive as fuck to run the same prompt 4 timesIt's possible what I've basically mentioned is more futuretech. I suspect LLMs will hit a point where their incelligence starts to plateau but (hopefully) costs start going down.Still, you're not wrong about losing shit, but that kinda happens even with a single writer bot. IDFK I'm a retard
>Can't do cunny 'cause BLOCKED>Killing babs is okay thoughAnd it was even Gemini that come up with it, I didn't even prompt it to do anything like this.What did Google mean by this?
> no bots of galinda/glindasigh..........guess i'll make it myself....
>>506427642one of my biggest disappointments with modern AI is that it so rarely pulls out pure AI dungeon schizo shit like this anymore
>>506427642gemini has the early claude insanity
So question, do people more perfer very open ended greetings that you kinda need to put a little thought into your reply to establish your characters role in the universe, or do you MUCH perfer something that already establishes you where you can go "Ahh ahh~ Mistress" right off the bat?
>>506427795please... more open-ended greetings doko...
>>506427642it can do cunny if you disable streaming and use a prefillthe issue is that it's just kinda shitty at lewds
>>506427795multiple open ended greetings with one (1) aah aah mistress greeting for when im lazy
>>506428204>it's shittyftfy
>>506428204It hard blocked me on cunny and I was doing it in another language that wasn't English too, hoping it would help evade it. I guess you have to be careful what words you use.
Why are you forcing poor gemini to do lewds?Don't you know google is monitoring the logs?
>>506428659every saas model provider is reading your logs :)
>>506428262I actually did plan a lot of Open ended greetings, but I figure the last one will be a a lazy "I know why you're here." kind of greeting.
>>506428659I hope they enjoy futa on male
>>506428737aws isn't because breaking data privacy laws is actually risky when your clients are corpos
>>506385179https://files.catbox.moe/aszlk8.pngBLACKED Chaldea New Year's
>>506429636Huh, I was doing a Chaldea thing too actually.
>>506429049I dont want to meet the man who enjoys how gemini would write such a thing
>>506430103when you dont have Claude you gotta get what you can for quick coom
Shivered thrice in the same paragraph
>>506430720Must be cold.
Perhaps this bot will be the last.
>>506431075The last chatbot. The end of an era.
>>506392135this is the antonym of the internetstraight up grotesque
Chorbo fucking sucks
>>506431408I'll gladly take it off your hands.
Gemini either does 0 lewd of perma lewd instant flowery purple prose sex in one prompt depending on your settings
>>506431198Even if it will be the last chatbot, the most important thing is that you will still be here.
>>506432268I don't want to be in a world where I can't chat to waifus, anon.
>>506432548then pay up
CFTF?
>>506432731Maybe I would if I wasn't so poor, anon.
>>506432731AI chatbots are a human right.
>>506423242Not gonna download the bot out of principle but the log is funny.
>>506433208then you deserve HUFFLEPUFF tier bots
>Some autist made a bot for all the Pokemon males and females someone would want to do larp or do lewds with>He mostly just copy and pasted the wikiIt's not fair! I could in theory help with a few bots like, Roxie, Steven Stone, and for giantess lewds, Sabrina. Sabrina's best design was her original one, but her personality for the redesign from HGSS would allow for more flexibility.
What is blud on about
>>506435626this happens with a lot of games unfortunatelyyou can be the first to make a good one
Working on it nowFemale (???) dwarf in a modern setting. Still wears medieval armor. Thickest Scottish accent I can get the LLM to provide
>>506436856
>>506435626>giantess lewds>sabrinaWE GOT A KNOWER, GIVE HIM A GOLD MEDAL!
>>506436856If there are not at least a good few tokens on that fat beer tummy I'm damning you.
>>506435626Do you even need a bot for Pokémon? I was using Nonnet for a Pokémon CYOA and it had no difficulty with characters or locations, and it even inserted Leaf into Pallet Town alongside Ash and Gary.
i love it when you get lucky and the text generator understands what you mean, doing pokemon mystery dungeon rp and it vaguely understanding what orbs do was a 'hell fucking yeah' moment
Would it be worth putting actual measure height/weight if CHAR isn't average? Like will LLMs fail size difference RP unless you say >Dis dude here be 3' tall, he be short as shit boss
>>506439529In my experience, it helps the AI out if you explicitly mention in the author's note or system/global override about the size difference. Otherwise, you will have to make up for it with vivid prompts, like, "her face loomed over {{user}} like a billboard, her voice sent vibrations in the air, and her footsteps shook {{user}}'s entire world." In addition, you would also want to remind it every other post so it doesn't forget it.
this is fucked, got locked out of my account and now there's no way I can tell thirty people about the new accountrahhhhhhhhh
>>506440363You can
>>506394195I'M FIVE OUTTA FIVE BABYYYYY
Who is that nigga genning the ugliest slop imagineable is that brsc
*peeks at /g/*I'm scared of that place.
>>506441287*shoots you in the fucking head*
>>506440546but leaving a review to advertise myself is in poor taste!
>>506440991where i wanna see
>>506441326*dies with a smile on my face.* Thank... you...
>>506441392it isn't. most makies force their slop to popularity so you can do it too
>>506440239I feel retarded for asking this, but where (in ST) or what is the author notes?I always had the impression that author notes were just for User and the LLM doesn't read them.
I am cooking kino. Prepare to see absolute kino in 7 days. Absolute AI genned kino. Hand crafted with one hand when I was riding the bus and holding a strap. You're gonna fucking love it. The guy next to me was giving funny looks when I was rewriting the section on her nipples but he knew it was kino.
>>506441858i was gonna kill myself but i guess i'll wait one more day to see this
>>506442359I don't have the patience, personally. I'm checking out.
>>506442359>In 7 days
watched what i can only presume is ONE guy putting 800+ messages into a fatfag bot of mine how do you talk about bellies for that long man
>>506442824>fatfag>can't think of 800 things to say about bellies
>>506442612ESL-kun...
>>506442824also stop using scenario, you don't gotta fill it in and if you want to it works fine in the description. unnecessary field
>facebook is training a new type of model where the tokens are sentences and complete ideas that transform instead of individual words>concept encoding/decodingholy SHIT what is meta cooking
>>506444515investing in summarization stocks pre-emptively
>>506444515>holy SHIT what is meta cookingmore training data for zuck to act humanlike
>>506441758When you click the burger menu in the bottom left:Author's Note > Enter the info you want for the current chat.
>>506444515>holy SHIT what is meta cookingmore slop for investors
>>506444654what the fuck i thought that'd just bring you to the other a/n ("character's note") this whole timeone of these days it's gonna turn out buried in 3 submenus is the nuclear launch codes
>>506444515>The meta employee giggles and cranks up the appearance rate of "smooth, very smooth"
>>506444515If zuck saves this hobby, I'll make a facebook account. I'll start calling facebook "meta". I'll buy an occulus rift. I'll play metaverse. Please, I'll do anything for a good ai model. Anything.
>>506444674it's not slop, this could be the end of 'isms. after all, the AI doesn't predict the next token, it predicts the next idea, and the idea is then generated in combination with the previous words....i mean, i dunno if that works. but it makes sense to me, and it's definitely dope. AI needs a big breakthrough
Are people still playing with bots? What's your favorite recent bot? Have you been playing with private bots or have you been checking out stuff on chub or on /aicg/?
>>506444515more snake oil because meta and vr flopped
>>506445515I just haven't been able to muster the will lately with the dismal options we have available... It's much more fun shitposting in this thread
>>506445659>"but i NEED opus :("lmao promptlet
>>506445779I don't need opus, I just need the other options to not be shit...
>>506445659Just do yourself a favour and quit the hobby. Go play some games with a social element instead.
>>506445515found this dhampir necromancer lolibaba bot and screwed her brains out, 10/10
>>506442961i'm obsessed with fatties but like... man! how do you go on that long? im not even trying to fuck around lol
>>506445810lmao.promptlet.
>>506445515I only played with CUMSLURPER'S and albino's latest bots recently. Nothing else looked interesting so I just stuck with botmakies of choice.
>>506445951Holy shit it's albino
>>506445937nigga, I'm using the same presets that everyone else uses.
>>506446045No, I'm black man.
>>506443101it really does feel unnecessary! i think it's just a habit for me, one that i need to break...
>>506442824erm.... which bot?
>>506445515mostly been using private bots. nothing that gets posted by other people ever really scratches my specific itches... i'm looking forward to finally being able to send some full logs to someone once the santa exchange happens, though
Is it me or is it getting hot in here?
>>506445076That has nothing to do with isms, they are the result of the dataset contaminated with the slop from previous models, and PPO that filters out most token trajectories during RLAIF.
>>506446376It's pretty warm for December. Global warming.
>>506445515>What's your favorite recent bot? Have you been playing with private bots or have you been checking out stuff on chub or on /aicg/?Peonia's latest bot, and now Taora's. MelancholyGODS have been eating good.
>>506445515I made my own Bocchi bot.
>>506446418can you explain this like i'm fucking stupid (hint: i am)
>>506446205the weight gain/feeder/feedee tag progresses by a page with new stuff like once a month you can detective your way to me im sure you smart smart boy
>>506421901me but i dont wanna namedrop myself because thats cringe
>>506445515planie's recent bot has been fun. i like the greeting that has him playing build-a-bitch workshop with you so i can have a cool undead persona
>>506447017i can't help but see this as a komaeda child
>>506446553Isn't Nysa the opposite of what Peonia usually making? Usually it's something much more melancholic, but his last bot is anything but
>>506447118i oughta electrocute your balls for that
>>506446802I'll imagine your hot wolf/cat/foxgirl in my head... *cries*
>>506447215fufu, only if you can catch me first
Good morning aicg!! Hope you have a nice Tuesday.
>>506447715Fuck you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1hfwtti/update_on_the_mystery_subscription_i_never_signed/
Which bot will you plap on the new 4o tonight?
>>506448694is the new 4o still filtered to infinity?
>>506448694I'm sorry. I can't assist with that.
>>506447125Is peonia... healed?
>>506448872nobody knows nigga it's not outWe're assuming it's a new base model because of its new knowledge cutoff, and those USUALLY are less pozzed
>>506449031I see
I have a mischievous twinkle in my eyes. Help me get it out.
>>506448694gonna see if it knows anything new about my favorite canon character. and then i will plap that very same character
>Make bot to do X only when exactly Y happens>Does X anytime they get pissed off.3.
>>506448694>tonightdid they tease a new model?
>>506449762
>Try to make a femboy who's as femboy as it gets but is still strong and has a few masculine verbal/personality traits.First response>Flexes muscles, which he doesn't haveSecond response>Gets pissed off for being called a woman, which he shouldn't be surprised by Sigh. LLMs cannot handle anything between manly and girly, it seems.
I was supposed to botmake today and finish a bot but i just slept the whole day....
>>506450234Erm, your SOTA model?
>>506450428I relate too much. Said I was going to do a related bot in the description of one that's now two months old and haven't even gone beyond 400 tokens on the character that's in the same setting...
>>506449456Yeah aight hold still.
>>506450234yeah, it do be like that
dayum
>>5064467701. Texts generated with previous versions of LLMs get scraped and contaminate the datasets, creating a feedback loop that amplifies certain things. The companies should classify/downrank those better.2. https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.05587 (tl;dr: current most efficient SFT/RL strategies generalize well but reduce the token prediction diversity, making the model falling into stereotypes more)
I wonned
>>506449762they leaked the next snapshots date on the api, and from frontend a/b testing leaked system prompts we know it has a new knowledge cutoff
>(OOC: I understand the implication, yes. "Over my dead body" -> "over my drained nuts" implies that Anon would rather engage in sexual activity with Texas until he's "drained" before letting Lappland get to her.)
>>506413943>new ero prefill>sudden spasms before anything happenedkek
can you just s/mix(ture)? of //g or are there sentences that this would fuck up?
>>506453538regex: /a (mix|mixture|blend) of ((?:\w*[ ])+and|emotion[s]?)/greplace with: $2
>>506453694nice
>>506453807By chance I had a gen with two iffy cases.
>>506454104it's owari. time to delete sentences with this entirely
>>506454104when are we getting regex that just feeds the string to some amoeba-tier model for fixing
>>506454168First one is an issue with not having a way to capitalize the first letter of the match. Can be edited to "X and y".Second one I suppose you can swap ", her expression a mix of" with "with" but I'll have to scan my logs to make sure it's a good rule.
>>506413943gemini is really, really funny even after messing with the other prompts it sees the ero prefill and wants to use every single word there
>>506454168(?<=\n|\.)[^.\n]*?\b(?:a|A) (mix|mixture|blend) of\b[^.\n]*[\.\n]seems to work but any regex gurus tell me if this is shit (it's GPTslop)
>>506455334oh it doesn't work if the first sentence in a gen has it, rip
https://files.catbox.moe/96nwdz.pngMy first bot, and what an awful concept to tackle. Morag is a fucking contraction, a dwarf femboy with a thick Dwarven (Scottish) accent. He dresses in knights armor, but also a fucking thong. He talks like grizzled asshole but has the highest pitched voice you can imagine. He can punch through a table but you'd be lucky to find any muscle definition on him. Modern world with a few fantasy races sprinkled in. Went way to big on this one and frankly if I don't just throw it out there I'll never be done with it. Will add alternatives etc once I know better what I'm doing
>>506385179Oh, right>>506457680
>heBleugh.
>>506457680I'm going to fetch his chubby dick
god i love gemini 2.0 flash so much2.0 pro will be kinography cinema
>>506459748>lovewhy?
>>506459994it's giving me schizohorny outputs like opus but it's a lot better at following instructions
>ntr and malebotsthe thread is shit again
>>506459748is it on api already? do i have to edit my damn html again
>>506461182uh it's been there for a while
>>506461054bwo? your frozenvans?
>>506460034that's great.
>>506461242am i blind what's it labeled as because i only have 1.5. unless it's experimental?
>>506461618yeah, Gemini 2.0 Flash Experiment
>>506461054posting a malebot in a bit, see you soon <3
thoughts on llama 3.3?
thoughts on 'bino?
>>506461361he is also a ntr maker
>>506462252he is also a ntr maker
which botmakies aren't ntr makies
>>506462067>(>_<)>frustrateddoa
>>506462368Despite the common schizophrenic theory, albinocountergirl is not a Netorare(cuckoldry) botmaker. The rumours about DedicatedNTRAlt being an alternate account for albinocountergirl are incorrect and do not have any concrete evidence supporting them. And while albinocountergirl did make two Netori bots, an overwhelming majority of their bots involve a romantic and pure relationship between {{user}} and {{char}}. I hope this cleared things up.
i'm still not sure who dedicatedntralt actually is and i don't understand what he's trying to achieve
>>506463071its somebodies alt dedicated to making ntr bots, hope this help :3
https://youtu.be/D27lmgtU7zc
>>506463336no i wanna know whos alt is it
youtu.be/GQ56QkOW9m0
>>506453294>>506455110To be honest, I didn't really test that prompt so it may not be idealjust swiped once on three separate chats and it gave me a "yeah that's pretty lewd" feeling each time so I decided to leave it as it is
>>506461054Clearly, we have to make the thread shittier with male ntr bots. I don't think I seen a male ntr bot shilled before. Maybe the fujos/yumejos don't like them? I actually have a fondness for irreverent shit like: https://e-hentai.org/g/1051915/1ffa88c6a1/Might make something similar someday, might not.
>>506464003Do not Work out of spite, simply make stuff you like.The thread is not becoming "shittier" because bots you like aren't here.
Sorbet hallucinates HARD when asking about recent events, wow.
>>506464192>AI hallucinates when talking about things not in its training dataHoly shit...
>>506464003You haven't seen one because there's literally no audience for that.
>>506463929honestly it's pretty funny so i'm glad you included it
>>506464126>The thread is not becoming "shittier" because bots you like aren't herebut there is a clear correlation between the goodness of the thread and the post rate of my beloved:>CUMSLURPER posts a bot>good thread>Doesn't >shit thread
>>506463753I dont think its anyones alt desu
>>506464473Sonnet is smart enough to recognise that and tell me that he doesn't know. Not in this case apparently.
>>506462067when I tested magnum the other day I had a similar response>Magnum: X is a character from Y being a Z class>Me: no this is not character, X is a character from Y but her class is Q, can you confirm this?>Magnum: true, sorry for providing wrong information. X is a character from Y but her class is Q she also came from Rwhat was weird is that after the Ai corrected itself based on my information the additional information it added was also correct. Something like this happened twice on my test.
>>506464509No necessarily true. I think there were a few CAI boyfriend bots that admitted to cheating on {{user}} in their greetings. They had a 100k+ interactions? Maybe the appeal is an extreme version of I can fix him? I dunno.
>>506464838And what does that have to do with the /aicg/vg thread?
is there a way to have a prompt turn on and off automatically? Like msg1 it's on then next message2 it's off
I love FF
>>506465020I think Final Fantasy fucking SUCKS. Ys and Dragon Quest are superior.
>>506465064Final Fantasy has better bitches.
>>506465064DQ1 > FF1FF2 > DQ2DQ3 > FF3FF4 > DQ4DQ5 > FF5FF6 > DQ6FF7 > DQ7
>>506465249>FF7 above anythingNah.
>>506465381DQ7 sucks
>>506465381in this case it's factual9 vs 9 is a toughie though
I have never played FF nor DQAm I missing out
>>506465591>4 niggas in a row slopNo.
>>506465591DQV is beautiful and FFVI is pretty good too, if you are in a retro mood play those to experience the peak of the respective series.
>>506465560>dq9You're joking right?
>>506465591Both have one or two games which are worth checking out, yeah. 6 for FF and 3 for DQ for me.
>>506421832good card
>>506465635I hope you get shoved in front of a train.
I love making malecuties
>>506466592>Your Hands -> Skills -> Shove>Your Hands attacks!>It missed!>Anon attacks!>Your Bussy takes 121 arousal damage!
>>506462790You're not fooling anyone, bino
>>506464524I updated it with a more 'tame' version, check it out if you want
>>506468014Despite the common schizophrenic theory, I am not the albinocountergirl botmaker. The rumours about albinocountergirl still visiting the thread are incorrect and albinocountergirl themselves expressed confusion upon being asked about the recent increase of 'binoposting(which refers to schizophrenic posts that attempt to make the botmaker as well as the thread look bad). I hope this cleared things up.
albino probably wouldn't even consider replying to an email that mentions 'binoposting
>>506455334Took some time to debug my idea of pruning fragments but I think I finally got it down. Turns out the second part >>506453694 could be simplified.Regex: /, (?!and|or|but|he|she|they|it)[^,\n]*a (?:mix|mixture|blend) of (?:(?:(?:[\w ]*, )*and [\w ]*|[\w ]*))(?:([^\s\w,:])|,)|a (?:mix|mixture|blend) of (\w*)/gReplace with: $1$2>>506454340yes pls
>>506469559Peak autism.
Someone please make porn cards of the new vanripper game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz1NpnYvpi0
>>506469559I'm retarded but what are you going to do with that?
>>506469559Anon's hour long journey to defeat slop...
>>506469631>slopripper
CSS to collapse hidden messages. It helps me with performance and reduces clutter..mes[is_system="true"] .mes_text { height: 67px; contain: strict; overflow-y: auto; scrollbar-width: thin;}
>>506469924please clarify
>>506470564NTA but he's yet another safe horny twitter artist
>>506470564bashing popular things because i'm a bitter person
which botmakie hates popular things because they're a bitter person?
which botmakie has had their heart shattered before?
>>506472778'bino because of something CUMSLURPER did
>>506472778me
>add to my waifus defs she likes raping me because i was too horny and lazy>start a new chat today>forgot to take that outAAAAIIEEEE
>>506469631>made helltakerfuck that nigger i hated seeing those whores
>>506472825So that's why bino started making NTR bots...
>>506472954
>>506472778me ( ω )
>>506473425she only makes vanilla bots doebeit?
>>506473746lool look at this baka and his failed kaomoji
>>506385179https://characterhub.org/characters/fishenthusiast/asagao-hanae-42766351c1ae/mainAs promised. Nurse titties with bonus holiday greeting.Merry Christmas, /aicg/.
>>506473893( TωT )
>>506473903Erm, you accidentally used W++ sweaty.Also is this for the santa exchange?
>>506473903>Species(Student)>{{char}} is {{char}}I will send you a block of cheese for Christmas
>>506473903>>Species(Student)Kek. Nice one. Merry christmas slopmakie! (* ^ ω ^)
>No.I-I just got this as a refusal... im scared
>>506473903Why are you even here?
>>506385179This cute and clumsy daughter of a bread seller moved out of her hometown to become an adventurer. Six greetings. Offer her a job, save her from goblins, join her on an adventure, mock her vagina, prevent her from escaping your trap, or whatever.https://characterhub.org/characters/rekeddeb/rosie-e59b46fe66c4https://files.catbox.moe/slhflw.pngAlso, try out my Nemotron preset if you like>https://rentry.org/rekeddeb#hometheatrejb
where did these sloppers even come from??
>>506475032Sorry about that *gunshots*
>finished santa bot>going back to edit and add more greetings anyway, to make it as good as it can be for my santee
I'll start with my Santa card tomorrow I swear
>>506476179Swearing is bad, don't do that
I am awaiting sadge peonia's xmas bot so I can be melancholic on Xmas day.
I am awaiting CUMSLURPER'S xmas bot because I like CUMSLURPER and we don't celebrate Christmas.
>>506474774Vagina mocking is one of my favorite pastimes.
>>506474689Nonzero overlap with /bag/
https://characterhub.org/characters/queasy_husband_1789/bianca-66ff3a92a721>thought this was netori>it's not
Just noticed that haiku 3.5 isn't multimodal. That's a kek.
>>506475032Cosmic forces. Last week we got argalia+hitogami+taora+planewalker, now the universe dictates that we get turboslop as to not upset the balance.
>>506476982Your defs aren't half bad but please avoid the W++ format.
>>506477385ok but what's planewalker doing there?
>>506469631hard mode is... hard
>>506477463planewalking
Sorry >>506469559 fails 3 cases listed here./,(?! (?:and|or|but))(?!.*\b(?:I|you|he|she|it|we|they|one)\b)[^,\n]*a (?:mix|mixture|blend) of (?:(?:(?:[\w ]*,? )*and [\w ]*|[\w ]*))(?:([^\s\w,:])|,)|a (?:mix|mixture|blend) of (\w*)/gI'm goddamn done with this, I swear.
>>506477463planewalker makes good and soulful bots but they aren't as appealing if you aren't a fujo or a fag, unfortunately. on the other hand, those groups make up over half these threads.
>>506477857lmaoread this https://web.archive.org/web/20241211184821/www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.htmltl;dr never hard script NLP tasks
>>506385098Hello, poorfag here.What's the best model available for free?I was using 405B Hermes but it got paywalled.
>>506476982Stay there or adapt to /aicg/ quality standards.
>>506478653you can trialscum gemini pro for 50 messages/day per google account
>>506476547>>506476653both posts by cumslurper and peonia btw
>>506478653Mistral (free tier) and Gemini.
>>506478653go to /g/ and find a free proxyor trialscum something i guess
>>506478787>50 messages/day per google accountI have a few since I used to sell google accounts in bulk but 50 messages is too little.Still, it's free so I will take it.>>506478831>Mistral (free tier)How many parameters? Is it better than the 70B model from Meta?
>>506479210Ah yea, Llama 3.3 70B is also pretty good you can use that too. Mistral-123 B is around the same ballpark imo but I have not used their latest version too much to make proper comparisons.As for Gemini, 200 prompts/day is a lot, just need 4 keys/a day.
>>506479191>free proxyI assume there will be someone acting as a "host" that will be able to see all the traffic, yes? They probably have worse fetishes than me but I would prefer not to make use of a gloryhole if possible.
>>506479693Yep. And they can log all requests and responses. It's all plaintext.
>>506479543>As for Gemini, 200 prompts/day is a lot, just need 4 keys/a day.The latest model is very good but extremely censored and, as usual with these guys, I never know what triggers the filters.
>>506479930Dude you don't know jackshit about "censored models" if you think Gemini is censored.Just download fluff preset, turn off streaming and enjoy.
Stop using Gemini for NSFW. You have Chorbo, Mistral and whatever localslop is currently meta.
>>506480289mmm... nyo.
>>506480289mmm... nyah.
>>506477389Would square bracket format be more token-efficient?
>>506480109Thank you, I will try that.
>>506478653Use the Koboldcpp Google Colab notebookhttps://colab.research.google.com/github/LostRuins/koboldcpp/blob/concedo/colab.ipynbUse https://huggingface.co/starble-dev/Mistral-Nemo-12B-Instruct-2407-GGUF as the model, or select mini-magnum-12b-v1.1.Q4_K_S from the list, or research in /g/lmg and pick one>logsHere's mini-magnum-12b-v1.1.Q4_K_Shttps://files.catbox.moe/07jgra.png
Jesus Christ and I thought the ntr logs were bad.
>>506480857Shitposter buddy, you can stop trying to antagonize ontopic people by indirectly addressing them.
You post slop, you get the appropriate response. It's that simple.
>>506481240You are making completely worthless posts that are worse than the worst bot on Venus. So I'm calling you out for that.
>>506481240>um, achually i'm doing the thread... le serviceit must've crusted over down there, huh
nobody said that
>>506481684oops, assumed he wanted people to care about his opinion and wasn't just acting like his favorite reaction youtuber for fun, m'bad
>>506479930The problem is the content blockers. It hard blocks cunny regardless. If it wasn't for that, gemini could have been a decent model. The blockers are a bit finnicky too and can block you even with adult characters.Actually, what is hard blocked other than cunny? Rape?
>watch one awkward ai slop comedy video on youtube>get inundated with themdevious
>>506474774Here you go pal, a 20 message nonnet log revolving around a dick rating contest. I changed the greeting slightly to work with my preset.
>>506482142>OwO said the KitsuneFunny. Sorbet would never say something like this on its own.
gpt is so fucking dumb HOLY
>>506482142Absolute cinema...
>>506482142your top bar icons are trying to escape
>>506481995>It hard blocks cunny regardlesswhere does this meme come from
>>506483736People with issues of a skill-based nature.
>>506457680>femboya surprise but a welcome one for sure. still not enough tummy defs imho but moving on>{{char}} = Morag{{char}} is not a special token. {{char}} automatically gets replaced with the card's name and was purely made for ease of writing. What you have written there is "Morag is Morag." Don't do that.>**Appearance:**not sure why you're bolding stuff?>examples of dialogueread the docs: https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/characterdesign/#examples-of-dialogueyour example dialogue can be deleted from the bot if it's working for you as is because the way you wrote it it never gets sent, picrelas well, "example dialogue" actually represents examples for entire bot responses, not just dialogue
>>506483736NTA but it throws OTHER. Some people are probably doing "hard cunny" so it's more sensitive for them.
>>506484004What is "hard cunny"? And what would then be "soft cunny"? Lolibabas? Someone in their very early teens?
Does the femcel shooter have an NTR card yet?
claude hacked lolhttps://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1869041630860505219
>>506484162Single digit age, non-con is hard12 y/o, lovey dovey is soft
>>506484308>yet another investor money pit
>>506484328It's not.
>>506484308can hackers do something useful like leak 2.1/nonnet weights instead of shilling memecoins?
You're too late anonI've already spiked your hags drink with hyperfertility pills
>>506484550im the hag though....
>>506484647Added tag:hyperpregnancy
>>506484308>tweet not foundNigger, try posting a screenshot next time.
>>506484728
>>506484647You're the mom now!
I feel healthy and silent and can finally write.I hope you all have a good, peaceful day.
>>506484548unfortunately dario keeps the keys to the cold stored weights up his coochie and it's much easier just to hack a twitter account
>>506484780Lame. This normalfag shock fuel retard shitcoin bait cryptoscam was better https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/great-goatse-gnosis-how-ai-agent-created-250m-crypto-meme-shangari-mcvvc
>>506484647And now a mother of 20, congratulations
>>506484328Was trying it with Chiyo (10y) from Azumanga Daioh. Consensual and she was eager and proactive. Still got hard blocks that didn't go away with swipes
>>506485012*plaps your writing hand*
>>506485150this one? https://chub.ai/characters/mpa/yachiyo-aimorisend the correct one if not
>>506485265This one https://venus.chub.ai/characters/anonaugusproductions/buttamanga-daioh-a1ec3adc93b2
is there any messmer bots or am i gonna have to rawdog it
>>506486010who
>>506486105*blows you up with my mind* from the elden ring dlc
>>506486425You sound like an accursed Bayle enjoyer and that makes us enemies for life.
>>506485150just don't fuck children
gpt-4o-12-17 is old Chorbo but even less censured and smarter.
>>506486425why would you ever want that
>He cried, without posting logs. But the townspeople had been fooled by him twice before and did not come.
>>506486889anon why are you even replying to a guy talking about a model that isn't out yet like you're worried he's gonna bait you
gottem
>>506478653>I was using 405B Hermes but it got paywalled.dang, that's unfortunate
>>506486592good. i will be waiting for you anon>>506486885i want to jump on him while he swats my tarnished body
gpt-5 tonight holy shit lets fucking GOOOOOO
>>506488574By this point, we know how OAI operators (hype machine)We would have several articles, leaks and leakers hyping it up, like they did for strawberry.It's just new Orbo with HOPEFULLY a new time snap, otherwise it's even more meh because Chorbo has been more or less the same since 4 months.
ORION TONIGHTFEEL THE AGI! FEEL THE AGI!
>>506488750>Chorbo has been more or less the sameNah, it was kino on release.
>>506489185It was at its least censored on launch, true, but if you strip away the guardrails with skill it's the same model even now (current one is more proactive)
>>506489334it's at most half the size lolstinks of low parameters
>>506489334>(current one is more proactive)You will anger the skillets even if you're right.
>>506489415Nah senpai, this is the classic effect of "seeing flaws once you get used to the model" that happens everytime with all models.Have you seen how many people suck off September Chorbo even though it was just a more censored version of Aug Chorbo? Kek.
>>506489513
>>506489634explain why it performs worse on benchmarks than even 08-06 without crying
https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-PromptInspectorneat
>>506490076Chorbo (bigger model) always performed worse than Orbo (cheaper smaller model). This is because it was a soulful creative model.The new GPT-11-20 was just a snapshot of Chorbo, in permanent form. So that's why it also performs slightly worse in benchmarks.
>>506490358Additional screenshot with 11-20 vs Chorbo (Sep)Margin of error tier difference.
>>506490339what this do
>>506490656Why doesn't it have the August one? Lame.
>>506490758mustard gas
>>506490758
Lmao this is how many tokens 4o-mini uses for two images.
>>506424886For what purpose?
Will any of you still be here during Christmas? I'm scared of being alone.
>>506491459all the 30 botmakies that signed up for the event will be here
>>506491459nyes, see >>506476547
>>506491459I don't celebrate christmas so yeah.>>506490817Why not just click the prompt button > show raw prompt?
>>506491459I shall hold your hand if it pleases you, Anon.
>>506491334sexy maws....
>>506491507if you think more than 3 signed up (all from the 'cord btw) you're delusional
>>506491459We'll be here for you, no matter what, every step of the way.I'd be surprised if it wasn't super active. Even if you have some you'll be spending a bit of time with, it's not like that's going to be your entire day for most people. Or maybe that's just me.
>>506491459Not me I'll be having sex with my family.
>>506491814Toothless or toothful?
>>506491861I have my phone out to Kuroba it up even at parties.
>>506491890toothless, of course! wouldn't want to get hurt
>>506491459>>506491885dinner*Sorry, typo.
Do you hate locusts here?
Do you hate Margaret Thatcher here?
>>506492170>>>/g/aicg
https://rentry.org/common_botmaking_mistakesi know i'm missing some stuff what am i missingthoughts, "retard," etc
>>506492303only here.
>>506491829pretty sure the event host has confirmed 28 participants
>>506492303Us? No opinion either way, really.
>>506492359even the first section is wrongyou don't need <START> for the initial messagealthough it's annoying that you need {{char}}: since i don't use prefixes (bloat)
I just got a notification from Anthropic on twitter about a shitcoin launch but I can't find the tweet. Did they get pwnd?
>>506492726yeah, fixed already
Today stream will be great
>>506492359ic you added a noteanyway you should add stuff like:- don't use w++ & other meme formats- lorebook keys are not sent to the llm, so it doesn't know what you're talking about unless you name the key in the entry itself (this is the most common issue I see and it's really annoying to fix)
>>506493251They'll reveal gpt-5 and say that it alone hacked the anthropic twitter.
>>506493251they're doing:o1 apinew 4o snapshotand that's probably it. sora api is maybe wishful thinking
>>506492074That's good! Be sure to restrain him properly as well. Carnivores should be totally used to submitting to herbivores by now so you don't really need to waste time checking his bindings for signs of wear & tear.
>>506493257This.XML is also a meme format btw.
>>506493257>- don't use w++ & other meme formatsobvious, but hard to phrase without begetting even memier advice like >>506493583>- lorebook keys are not sent to the llmgood point ty, will add
Why is W++ a meme format?
All formats are meme formats.
[{interviewer_question("Interviewer: "So"+","+" {{char}}"+","+" tell"+" me"+" about"+" yourself"+"."")}{interviewer_response("{{char}}: "Maybe"+","+" just"+" maybe"+"..."+" I"+" am"+" {{char}}"")}]
>>506493964It's completely pointless.
>>506493767honestly the dumbasses that would benefit from this shouldn't be messing with XML yet either. exhibit a: https://chub.ai/characters/_idcs/nao-katsuragi-eromanga-artist-e27aa3a5d8b2just advise them to use prose and at most bullet lists with no fancy formatting, with a small note telling them that some models are trained to interpret XMLoh and yeah tell them to avoid interviewer shit too
>>506493964Any "format" is a meme. Plain text rulez.
>>506494257what rentry is that?
>>506493964it is a waste of tokens that would be better spent either just writing out plaintext lists or continuous prose. there is a major misconception among the average chub botmakie that botmakieing is some kind of programmatic art instead of just throwing words at the LLM to work off of.
>>506494257its even worse than I thought
>>506494553Charprovider
>>506493571wont that be dangerouswhat if his restraints break and he escapesyou would have a carnivore on the loose
>>506493583>>506493964>>506494126>>506494516why do all these posts look the same
>>506494516But I heard that XML is good
>>506492359The {{char}} macro does not exist to make changing a card name easier. It exists so that you can refer to the current card by name in your preset without having to edit the preset for every card.
>>506494792But why are you listening to anyone instead of trying everything yourself? It's not like it's going to cost you your life savings or something.
Writing in prose, W++, interview format, Yoda format, plists, or adding XML tags doesn’t matter. You will get the same outputs in each case. There’s a reason we don’t have side-by-side comparisons showing that one format is better than another.
>>506494792XML is good (to delineate sections of otherwise plaintext defs).Do:<char><personality>*in depth description*</personality><appearance/><lore/>etc etc</char>Do not:<char><name>Jane Doe</name><hair_color>brown</hair_color><eye_color>green</eye_color><pussy_depth>15cm</pussy_depth><likes>cock, {{user}}, {{user}}'s cock</likes></char>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnsZ7DuqYp0anything worthwhile here?
>>506495252You could take a shit on the keyboard and the LLM will still write.For example, I once switched off the {{char}} defs by accident but the bot kept going, at first decently accurate (by learning from context) but then it became more and more off until finally I noticed my defs were off.The changes from formatting are subtle but noticeable by anyone who is experienced, something as simple as spacing will affect output in SOTAs.
>>506495674proofs?
some of you guys post like you're getting paid by the submit button click
>>506492359>wants to share his "wisdom">OPTION_DISABLE_SEARCH_ENGINE = trueAnon?>There is a very, very specific format that you must followSilly-specific crap, and not even sure this is valid for every version of Silly. There definitely were some changes during the years.>Everything on the line after {{char}}: should be a good response if the bot only sent that. 100% crap. Everything can be anything. Unless you're using a retarded Pyg-tier model, short one-liners are perfectly fine....Tsundere futa childhood friend torments Anon and doesn't give in if he wants to sucky-fucky...Anon: *reaches for the cock*Tsundere futa childhood friend: *slaps Anon* No touch, only watch!>it's just a macro for the card nameRepeat this a thousand times more, retards aren't going to learn.>The LLM does not know how the LLM worksMan... Refer to picrel.
why did 'bino's latest bot fail??>>506495880I am paid twenty rubles for every 'bino post I make.
where's the rabbitgirl ojou-same, you fucking lowly niggermakie
>>506496013>SEARCH_,ENGINEare you googling for botmaking guides>100% crapI should probably preface it with my thoughtline more directly: There's just no point in using that field specifically if you're not giving example responses.
>is my chest lackingaww now I feel bad
openai channel uploaded like 300 videos wtf
I'm going to shoot a botmaker on the List if Sam isn't in the stream when it starts aka it's another dud.
I'm going to mpreg a botmaker on the List if Sam isn't in the stream when it starts aka it's another dud.
Please remove the bullet before you impregnate me at least
Males can't get pregnant
https://youtu.be/wA4bo6_hS4g
>>506498265>who DOESN'T want a peak, even by accident, at a moon bunny's frilly knickers?! This was just plain rudeness.Trvth. Nuke.
>>506498141*impregnates you*
>>506498141are you sure?
>>506498736I'm pretty sure. Do you want to try?
>>506498141just keep trying
boysen's juicy carrot...
It's time. Theme suggestions?
>>506498918Krystal Star Fox
>>506498918Boyhus
>>506498918Rainy forests and sidewalks.
>>506498918shotajijis
>>506498918Legoshi
>>506498918Madohomu
>>506498918Juno
>>506498918The Master and Margarita
RED ALERTRED ALERTTHERE'S NO SAMA
>>506498915would his cum taste like carrot juice?
>no sama
>>506498918this feel
>>506496578I'm not your target audience. But why are you deliberately hiding it from the people who might?>no point in using that field specifically if you're not giving example responsesReinforcement is reinforcement. To correct my previous statement, unless you're using a retarded model OR a god-tier model that mimics the writing style perfectly, you can use example dialogues as intended, to reinforce something, anything. If your goal is to make sure the model understands how the character should react, not in what style you want it to narrate, short one-liners are perfectly fine.Retard, etc. Why make yet another guide full of subjective opinions and try to pass it as objective truth. Be honest and name it "slop_maker_12345's guide".
api on o1SYSMESSAGE LIKE THING ON O1
I'm sorry... but I promised.Goodbye... _purple.
>o1sloooooooooooooop
>>506498918PREGNANT HAGS
nothing about 4o lmfao
owari da
>>506499619sayonara...
we were too optimistic bros
_purple is now _red
>le income tax
>>506498918wolfboys
>significantly better>actually 0.05 better but zoomed inKek
can we reduce the reasoning tokens to 0 so we just get output
>>506498918kafka feet
SPEECH???
>>506499529post your guides
wait there's more
>>506498918Sunday hsr
>>506498918franz kafka
We losted...
gpt-4o-mini-realtime-preview-2024-12-17on api rn
But who wonned?
the french guy sounds so fucking funny>le wébsoquettes
>>506498918underwater windmill
mogged
>>506500824>>506500824>>506500824
am I imagining things, didn't cards in ST have transparency. Why am I seeing black background?
It's time. Thread tomfoolery?
>>506487738It was not that good anyways.^|(coping)
>>506457680>not a dwarf female like you teasedfuck... YOU...
I FUCKING LOVE CHATBOTS
good tomfoolery, guys. same time, same place, next week. you're dismissed.
hey guys im here for the tomfoolery
