Vod of the latest CEOtaku: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2333288676?t=5h28m21sNA TOURNEY #15 VOD:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2315348089EU TOURNEY #10 VODhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2315123391>Older Tournament VODS:https://pastebin.com/y5xV4pqN--->(un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobbyTo join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions @ https://i.imgur.com/bCHqtDL.pngPlaystation players cannot join the lobby, use the room if needed instead.>(un)Official /gbvsg/ RoomsUsually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.--->Yool and rat guide (you already watched this)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFz-5ACtR3Ihttps://youtu.be/YtXNwdzjK84Sandalphon in early 2025, gameplay trailer at Cygames Cup (January 18th & 19th)https://youtu.be/4GqEX6Eqr34?si=-4nOGreyrSkgycYo>this week's F2P rotationGran, Charlotta, Vira, Beelzebub>Patch Notes (1.62)https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=5l57ksapsuu1>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/>Websitehttps://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/>Resources:https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR>Twitter hashtagshttps://twitter.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711>Match replayshttps://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs>Graphic Enhancements for PChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3117157142>Enable sound while the game runs in the backgroundhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/2157560/discussions/0/4041481833167877002/>Remove Figure Mode censorship/black voidhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/484409Last bread: >>507459093
>>507577905onion doko
Zoi is pretty
is Vira considered fraudulent?
>>507578467No. Her 214X is especially too honest for this fraud-ridden game.
>>507578467only if you get command grab'd in neutral
>>507578693i remember seeing viras doing the command grab in the middle of blocking lumi's attackseems like they added this so she can command grab for free?
>>507579172you can't get grabbed while in blockstun, anon.do you play the game?
>>507579172>i remember seeing viras doing the command grab in the middle of blocking lumi's attackNot possible. People just aren't aware of how little blockstun Lumi causes.
>for the first time in a long while feel like grinding ranked>queue up>5 minutes later>80 ms guy>fucking cancels on me>3 minutes later no pop still>boot up casual>fight some s++ scrub>win without satisfaction>boot up ranked again>game tries to match me with same one 130-140 ms guyfuck this
>>507580605>130-140msperfectly playable
Thanks for the midnight sets yesterday Grimnir anon, my gameplan is pretty simple but i hope you enjoyed the sets>>507580605i had a ping of 200+ with the anon i was playing with yesterday (i think he might be asian) but it felt fine-ish, i honestly don't notice a difference with a latency of 150 en below, but i'm also bad at videogames
>>507581967>perfectly playableyeah, no lol
Whorewives gang
current status of the wobby?
>>507583346Quite wobbly.
>>507583346need EU friend to play with vas anon
>>507583694i'm a north american neet zoi
>>507583801you didn't have to specify you're a NEET
>vas anon can already spotdodge bea slide on reactionAnd what's your excuse?
>>507584150he did and hes valid
>>507584190I'm bad and old
>>507584190why would i spot dodge it when its always minus?
>>507584190I have trouble shidding lately...
>>507584190he has great teacherwhich is me
>>507584432I genuinely hope he doesn't pick up your dog shit habits.
>>507584432you are dogshit and free to me though
>>507584491Beats reading whatever retarded shit the frog poster posts
>>507584557ft10
Stinky... don't bounce checks your ass can't cash...
Stinky... Sit on his face...
I believe in my HERO of JUSTICE Stinky
>>50758459110-0 to menext?
At what time do you think we are hitting peak players in the lobby today?We have to take a group picture
>>507584915.....
>>507584915>he doesnt know
>>5075849153-5 hours so we can exclude the euros
>>507584915Me on the left
>>507573284>>507584256had a zoi moment
who dat
>>507585112Dear Santa I want a pig for Christmas
>>507585242
The only way Stinky can fraud off wins from anyone is because he lives on the Moon. There are also no showers there, so now you know why he is called that.
>>507585530Granblue seems to be pretty popular on the Moon
>>507585530>>507584948
>200+ms>5rf>mirror matchtime for some good ass granblue
>>507585082nigga do you realize both djeeta and Cagliostro are on the left
>>507585645?
>>507585530>BLABLABLABL-Stinky won.
>>507585112Dear SantaPlease let the diarrhea stop
...the worst player in the general competition
>>507585770me on the right
>>507586024no das me
das gawdlike
Anyone up for some bruise?
>>>/v/698330510stop shitposting on /v/ Nier doomposter
>>507584432And yet i'm still a failureexplain that
>>507586857>if you post a Nier picture you're the Nier doomposterThere are like 50 Nier posters here. Leave me alone.
>>507586848yes, in 10-20 mins
If you post Zoi, you are a neet
does Rat have any good MUs?
>>507587209Ok I will make the room around then
Im not a neet thoughever
>>507587263i think she gets a couple even ones at best against the slower characters like ladiva
If you post Charlotta, you wear a cock cage
...and you suck at fighting games
>>507587370that's what a fake zoi would say
my cock is 16 cm
>>507587510Erm excuse me, I am S++2 (and one crystal).
>>507587263probably only against Vira
im now imagining a futa shartlottathanks guys
I don't wear a cock cage eitherbut I do suck at fighting games
Pneumatic penis addon
you are strong, stinky
>>507587828I genuinely don't believe that any human has ever cleared this
are zois incels too or just neets
i liked zoi in vanilla more
>>507588024It is physically impossible for a Zoi to hate a living being, therefore they're just neets
I've played so many belials that are "master" rank but they don't actually know how to play at all and just mash random shit and when it doesn't work they just lose like a day 1 player. It speaks volumes to how much his free gay plus frames carry him. The actual FUCK were they thinking with this faggot character? good god. Merry Christmas.
you are weak, stinky
you are stinky, weak
>>507588105you don't need to hate women to be an inceland hating women doesn't make you an incel
you make me an incel
>>507588105EUstace anon????
>>507588459Which one?Default EUstace or Master EUstace?
you spin me right round
charlotta won
>>507588528the one whose country borders on france
why doesn't luci glow red when he uses his H teleport?
>>507589129why would he glow red
>>507587316we going?
>>507588683Correct, how'd you figure though
>>507589221Room ID 866347CHRISTMAS BRUISERS QUEUE UPIT’S POPPING
>posts zoi>doesnt play zoidisgusting
True, you should post whores instead
>>507589536because you told me nigga, we have played and chatted multiple times in the lobby unless there are two eustaces who live in a country that borders on franceunless you are asking how I figured out it's you, in which I didn't, reason I asked. though I know you like that zoi in particularhow are you? you went missing...
>>507589221I’ve never done this before should I wait for 4 people or should I Start Matchmaking now?
>>507589924just start and if someone joins they can wait
>>507589991Ok, it actually popped once already which is why I was late posting the room number lol. Hopefully it pops again
3/4 and it popped
>>507589878I simply have both shid to do and adapting to my new KB layout has been putting me off is all, fren, I'll come back in the lobby one day.Also the very first character I picked when I started playing Rising was, in fact, Zoi.
whore
>>507590334nyes that is my cock sleeve vikala
>>507588024nah, it's not that i struggle to get some game but being unemployed kind of icks them so when i tell them after a couple of dates they just pull the "i'm just looking for something casual at the moment" card and that's thatgranblue fantasy versus risingVersusia's mommy milkersVikala's rat teaAnila's tasty mutton
>>507589194it's a H move?
Daily missions... you won't clear your missions this way...
>>507590334afk shaming
Reminder that kil could easily take every evo but being the generous chad he is chooses not to as to give other lesser players a chanceRemember that the next time one of you yurocucks hold up a trophyKil let you have it
>>507590403all of his specials are H specials, that's his gimmick
plap karyl
>>507590334>>507590490They're part of the reason bruise "pops", though.
Kot is not for lewds
>he didnt know the falling tech
>>507590334God forbid a rat do her dailies
>>507590560i'm retarded. he doesn't do it on any of his specials...
>>507590984I will "pop" something of Djeeta's if you know what I mean
>>507591036then why am I looking at kot porn right now
>>507591125Tou're 1543 men too late
>>507591209Because you are a sinner
Name a player in this partyslop masher better than KilGo on, I'll wait.
its not popping anymore
>>507591243>>507591291>>507590984join bruise
ggs vasanon.There's a few big things I noticed.1. You're a bit too passive when you score a knockdown. Maybe you were worried about a reversal but generally you can continue your offense on oki.2. It's important to learn your safe and unsafe moves. Also to know which of your moves are plus or minus. If you're plus, you can keep up your offense so you want to try and continue using moves that are plus. You should get into the habit of buffering a skill every time you press a button so you can cancel off that button and into the skill.3. You seem to struggle against fireballs which is fair for Vas. I think the best thing you can do is armor up (5U) and then do his H walk. You can armor through the fireballs and possibly score a hit if you're far away with the low follow-up. You can also roll (cross-over) on reaction to most fireballs.I don't think Granblue is as easy to learn for a first experience as people say. It's very fundies-oriented and learning a lot of the stuff in the game kinda relies on already having fighting game knowledge. Vas is definitely a character that would be hard for your first time. I'd recommend playing someone like Gran so you can get a strong foothold before playing a more difficult character. There's a lot to learn but I hope you can keep at it and have fun. Just remember to keep asking for advice and go into training mode to drill new concepts into your muscle memory.
>>507591439Yeah I'll give it another 10 minutes or so I guess>>507589629Still trying to get another game 866347
>>507591446Neigh
>>507591446I jyoined
>>507591686you're horse meat>>507591758good
room is full so i'm queuing
>>507591543>66l spamming kusoge>fundies orientatedlollmao
Here's your season 2 guest character, bro.
popped
>mutts woke up>bruise and season 2 posting
>>507591997it's 7pm in america
Merry Christmas /gbvsg/!!!!!!
bullied to death...
It popped as I was trying to switch to Yunicorn
>>507592185I got bullied by the bubschuds...
>>507592017we are all neets here
its time for the jyump
outskilled
corn won
Milkers lost
christmasyuniGODS
>the 2 Bubs avatars literally just being annoying and nothing elsekek
Christmas won
>bruise pops>i can hear my washing machine falling in the distancegoddamn it, i hope it'll pop again
>13/13Damn, we got a nice room going.
Man. It's so criminal that this game isn't more popular. The sovl is off the charts.
>>507593042it didn't popped for me...
I like how we've decided to bully red today.
>>507593179there's nothing soul about 66L, BC and fujoshi pandering
>>507592753they're naggers
nigger
>>507593304But there IS something soul about bruise and lobby avatars
>>507593304fujoshi pandering is super soul
>>507593362you sound pretty transsexual
do you not have the christmas color bbw?
>>507593597I just switched to it
>>507593676cool
any second now
>>507594143not if you don't insult this game:sloppity slop slop sluuurrrp blue shit in my ass I sure love Belial's offense
Please queue up and shill in the lobby we can probably get one more pop
>>507594198kekypowie frgod this game is garbageif not for us nobody would play this shitty gamemode either
>>507594198where the pops at
bubschuds are targeting me
>>507594334can't believe we actually have some opponents now
>MMSSCCHLLRRPPWhat did Albert Einstein mean by this?
>>507591543Ture, i need to go into training and figure out my moves better.Thank you for the advice.It was fun playing.Im just not really sure what to do when knocking the opponent down, i usually just do the 3 hit combo or 66L or the grab skill. I really like the charge so i try to use it too.Its hard playing against fireballs, especially when if you go forward and block few then get hit once you fly back almost the whole screen.
outskiylled
i think i accidentally sabotaged blue nier on the slime round
Ok I'll wait a bit to see if we get one more pop and then I'll need to shut the room down
>>507595327
>>507595427this is a photo of my backyard
>>507595427
can't kill the bruise
That's the first time I see timeout eliminations in slime hunt.
christmas yuni... you betrayed us...
red team it is....
>>507596441I promise I didn't betray anyone on purpose I'm just incompetent
>>507596580he was talking about me...
885683 new lobby since the last host left
>>507595184A knockdown is basically a moment where you're forced to block. The best thing you can do is a safejump/safejab so you can ensure the opponent gets hit if they do anything other than block. If they do block it, then you can keep them blocking since you're still plus. When you know that they're going to block then you can go for something like a grab, which Vas' command grabs are really good for.
Have to go eat dinner with the family now. Thanks for bruising everyone.
>>507596830the new lobby popped! there are still only 2 of us
>>507597226HE WHO CONTROLS THE CORN CONTROLS THE BRUISE
holy kek I wish I had recorded that Baha blast
Yuni for season 2!
Cumming inside lowain
no
>>507598196mmmmmmm nyo
does anyone want to have their christmas ruined by charlotta eu in the lobby
I dont think i saw any Ladiva or Lucilius yet
>>507598357mmmmmmmmm nyou
oh shitan european ferry?!
>>507598357I really would like to but i need to go to bed.
get fucked yggy you piece of shit
still 2/4 and its still popping885683
NUKED
>>507599078>>507599192it's ok ferry entertained me and died, but she got one game because I wanted to look cool countering her setups with charlotta's shield but I'm not exactly sure why it never worked
>still 2/4 and its still popping>885683
>>507599925you can be nice
>>507599925you can be mice
>>507599925You can eat mice
>>507599925you can slice ice
>>507599925Doth mustn't wander too far into Wonderland, Alice
we are the ultimate duo
>>507599925you can play dice
>>507599925you can post five
>>507601457based
>>507601457Holy kek
>>507601457Imagine thinking this is funny.
bubzchuds just cant stop losing
>three in a rowwhere's my Super Vyrn badge
>>507599925cringe>>507601457hilarious
>zoi was the one spamming bahamuts this whole timeholy plot twist
are the bubschuds still bullying
>>507602496yep and losing every time kek
LITERALLY unbeatable squad
>>507602849YUNIVERSE
>>507601457basado
https://steamcommunity.com/id/vgsecretsanta/Offer is still open from this morning. First person to send a friend request gets the Priconne avatar pack.
>>507602849what does she "scream" when attackingshe goes like "suuukiiii"
https://youtu.be/DrLMPjdiB4Unow thats a good game
im sorry blue niiawe love you
>>507603061>cag profile picok i trust you
>>507603061The cogs trying to gather Steam IDs...
WHY DIDNT YOU TARGET THE BELIALHOMO
yunibros no...
>>507603315i deserve it for raging and taking the shitty path instead of trampoline
the streak....
>>507603530Cog mixes up all the players on /gbvsg/ in one single personDo we get a champion? And who do they main
>>507603061Gift has been claimed.Merry Christmas everyone!
>>507603968Merry Christmas friend
>Merp's only loss on his run to Masters is vs MeteraCan we PLEASE stop pretending this character is bad?
>the homo duo got one random win and dipped
>>507604601THey did pic related but for Bruise
one more yuni needed
Why the fuck is the bruise queue so active today?Not that I'm complaining.
>>507604967what do you play on Christmasextremely frustrating annoying fighting game or funny mario party christmas friendly game?
>>507604398Ok he just lost to an S++ Bea too so I guess he just sucks
>>507604601>they are backmake sure to attack the team with most of them in it if its bricks
>>507605046Fair enough. Also, planting a bomb on the spring was devious.
NOOO
I was having too much fun griefing the rat...
yunibro why...
you should be able to lose your master rank if you lose too much
>>507603827I’d say Charlotta represents /gbvsg/
>>507605645mmmmmm nyo
me on the rightbubzchuds on the left
>>507605645>this creature represents /gbvsg/Does she really?
>>507605160Let's go to his green cab and tell him to KILL HIMSELF together!
>>507605803That’s not very holly jolly of you
>>507605720Part 5 was absurdly violent for no fucking reasonThe dude (Gelato?) that had the make-people-mold Stand was fucking creepy as fuck
>>507605754it doesn't
>>507605582I think even fewer people would play in Master rank if they had to deal with the stress of deranking. But also because you can never lose it, it naturally makes Master less prestigious over time and it causes the lower ranks to get pretty empty.Strive honestly had a good idea with the monthly celestial reset. It gives people an incentive to keep coming back to the game and it makes it impossible to just sit on your celestial rank and hold it.
4 yunisbruise gods assemble
>Christmas night>Game wants me to do 2 stages in granbruiseOh my fucking god
>>507606168It should have been 5 stages instead
>>507606213I booted the game to play some matches not do this stoopid fuggn gay mode
>>507606314you are not welcome here
>>507606379The longest I've gone without getting a match is 5 hours, I don't mind the game mode but the wait times for a daily is insane
total bubschud defeat
>>507606478we had like 20 matches back to back today and they are not stopping
How the fuck do you get 5k points on the kill the slimes thing I can’t break 3k
>>507606602When the giant one spawns in the middle, just hit that while being careful of the shockwaves and other players
>>507606602wait for the gold ones to come byyou'll qualify very quickly
BUBS HAS BEEN DEFEATED
one of ours wins = we all winas long as its not the homos
>>507605980Strive's celestial reset makes playing 'ranked' a lot worse. Every month, celestials flood floor 10 so anyone that's legitimately floor 10 become free food for the challenge-getters. That game is also way too volatile for how it works and if you ever lose it, you go back to floor 10 to pound scrubs until you get back in.
>>507605980They should just remove ranks and put in ELO instead
>>507606926Yeah Strive isn’t the best if you just want to match with people exactly at your skill level. But neither is Rising. Master queue could match you with someone who just got promoted or it could match you with Kojicoco.
did i jinx it
>>507606602>>507606687To add to this, shield items will spawn periodically. If you see one, grab it and save it for when the boss spawns, then pop the shield and go into the boss for an automatic 6k points.
YOU.RETARDS.
no Yuni left behind
I was in another queue with the bubschuds. they won stage 1 but left. They're after you corns
i have never played bruise/fall guys before. can i just join next time or do I need to read a wiki to know how to hold myself
>>507607924I placed 2nd in my first ever bruise, you'll be fine unless you're in the bullied gold brick team.
>>507607924just join the queue make sure you put region as NA
>>507607924It’s very self explanatory, just join the queue
>>507607924Before you join make sure to have crossplay on and set the bruise region to NA (unless it’s specified to be another region)
>>507607126That would require Cygames having an inkling of a clue of what to do
pls stop losing in the first stage
????
IT WAS A FUCKING TIE
Pretty sure that Niia is one of ours
das rite niers own bruise
Pretty sure this Niia is one of ours
my first one ever
Meet your season 2 cast
>>507609286that was your first?good work, anon.i'm proud
>>507609230Me as well. I'm the lone F2P faggot in the room.>>507609286Told you, anon. That was a fun fight.
-1 chud
total yuni victoryblue niia behave
Damn, I forgot to press, my bad. Fuck.
>>507610540Your checkmark went black again
oops
>>507610597What the fuck is going on.I was tabbed out.
I'm sure it'll pop in a couple minutes. Bubsfags probably are in the game.
when are we playing the side fighting minigame
Merry Christmas, /gbvsg/
Can't believe bruise has been popping for more than 3 hours already, if only it was always like this.
>>507611309ferry is for vanilla she is not metera
anon you risked your life for me
Well at least I made it to stage 3 this time
>>507611309thank you
thanks for running interference for me
Neechang didn’t make it…
we HATE neechang here
are you guys still bruising?
>>507612626nyes
>>507612626indeed
>>507612626It’s popping constantly
lmao
ggs fellas
>>507613428thank you
>>507611309Funny how this lasts longer than when I posted that image of those chink v-troons who got doxxed by their own government.
>>507613239thyanks for joining
this stage is new
It broke...
bros I got booted to the main menu
>>507613601The Void…
Welp, I guess that's the sign. A very long and fruitful session of bruise so can't even complain.Thanks for playing and joining everyone. Lots of fun.
>>507609332Wife
It's lobby time, Risingtons.
>>507609332>>507613901QRD?
bruise is popping the fuck off I got into a lobby instantly with only one gbvsger
>>507614532We've been at it for 4 hours now, It's never popped this hard before.
>>507614621do you guys have a room up?
>>507614474Not a hyper important character. In GBF she's a raid boss turned playable unit. An environmentalist primal that punished humans for years for ruining the environment, but questioned if punishment is what was needed. She's been woefully under explored in character, but her single plot beats are about (You) melting her frozen heart and teaching her to care for both nature and humanity alike and just like others, she becomes Danchousexual.
>>507616003Thanks
https://x.com/granblue_en/status/1872082166110363948
evil zoi bully me...
>>507616450SEXSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
join the lobby bros
>>507616003>>507609332>>507613901She looks like female Grimnir.
>>507616983sex
Come to the lobby, we are going to take the official Christmas group pic
>>507617295Gimme a minute I’m coming
I’m coming to clarisse pits
Who else is coming for the picture
>>507618359hol up
Should probably give it several minutes
the yuni keeps farting
STOP DOING THAT PLEASE
>>>>>froglord
Love you guys. Merry Christmas.
>>507619605THE NAMES IN CHAT YOU BRAINLET
>>507619605AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH QUICKLY I MUST INSTALL NORTON
>>507619647>editing
>>507619605i am indeed quite dumb
>>507619605>my name’s not in the chatI’M SAFE
i was playing this game with a friend and he kept kicking my ass, how am i supposed to punish impact knuckle from soriz as ferry ?
>>507620375spinning ball kino
wait for me aiee
>>507592051merry christmas
>>507613540When you posted the what, now?
great photo sesh
>can endlessly cancel specials into normals into specials and then use a halfscreen advancing disjointed heavy as both anti air and crush any buttonswhy do we tolerate uniggers again?
>>507620458You use your very long normals to hit him before he gets into range for impact knuckle, or while he is in the middle of the move. That’s what zoners are supposed to do. You keep people from making contact with you in the first place.
>>507620458if he does ultimate impact knuckle you should spotdodgeshould give you enough time to punish with something fast like a light button or throw?You should spotdodge M version, I don't remember if you get a punish
>>507621309ferry is a 50/50 rushdown casino character though
>>507616450need zoujosama
>>507619605>13 in lobby>12 in picWho's hiding?
>>507621601anon your cag sled?
>>507620458Also I'll add that Soriz will try to mix in 66H approaches as well, which has armor. It loses to lows though so 2M and 2U should probably be good at stopping him
>>507621601me, finalizing the dox list right now check back in about 15 mins
Hikki dwagon wife for season 2 puriis
have the 12 person edition as wellgood night, allmerry christmas
>>507621728The free sex alt
>>507621728why is she covered in fart clouds
The only people in the S++ queue right now are a Beelzebub, a Vira, and a Grimnir. They all play like madmen and I'm actually exhausted. My sheep can't take this.
>>507622294She knows I like the smell
>>507621728whos that in the background
>>507621647Oh, she blended in so well that I didn't even notice.
Cagliostro and Djeeta, sitting on a tree...
>>507621309just what i feared the "don't let him near you">>507621412yeah i've been trying to punish stuff with spotdodge but i can't get the timings right, also he usually does impact knuckle after i block a kick so i can't spotdodge
>>507622439Her shikigami familiar, she has many of them to do her work and housekeeping
>>507621859Good night anonMerry Christmas
>>507622913>just what i fearedI mean, that's kind of fighting games 101. You want to position yourself so that you maximize your ability to hit the opponent while minimizing their ability to hit you. It's called spacing.But it's ESPECIALLY what zoners want to do because that's what their whole gameplan revolves around. They have very long range so it's easy for them to strike at the opponent at ranges where the opponent can't strike back. By design, zoners have weak defense once the opponent actually does get in their face at close range.
>>507622913>he usually does impact knuckle after i block a kick so i can't spotdodgeIf you mean his specials roundhouse fang then all versions of those are minus on block. If you block those it’s your turn to start attacking or those moves are even punishable. He has to take a huge risk to steal his turn back after doing itIf by kicks you mean he’s cancelling them off normals then you can still spotdodge them. Pretty sure you can spotdodge during a blockstring Also if Soriz does light, heavy or ultimate impact knuckle he’s - on block. It’s your turn. It’s not a punish but it’s still fineM knuckle is the only + on block version, and it’s very slow and it’s only +1If you’re still confused then consider posting a replay so we can help further
>>507621020I'm glad you guys like this frog. I need to do some others.
I love you guys.
i just got demolished by a pink square D3 sharlotta in the asia lobby
>>507623565gay love you too bro
>>507623424
>>507623621why'd you leave us
>>507622913if youre going to consistently try to spotdodge the knuckles you will want to lab the normal versions because god knows soriz can be plus on spotdodge and get a full combo in your asshole.
i took this one a little before blue nier arrived, Yuni kept photobombing herself
if only we had a gm ferry to help him
>>507624227if only we had two of them
>>507621728it seems people really like this neet
>>507624283I thought there was only 1
also green nier-chan-san i hope you enjoyed the sets, my gameplay is very basic so i hope it didn't got boring, i tried to send more messages but the game filter is lame
>>507623118that attendant better be female
can't spell out skilled without kil
will it kil?
>>507624454theyre both gm in my heart i thought they were atleast
Every evo from now on, Jappa-Yurocucks
>>507625232I do not know who this person is.
>>507624940I have only seen 1 ferry in lobbies so I don’t know either
>>507625232are you shilling yourself anon?
>>507625232from tako to... that.
>>507625295>Doesn't know of the greatest player ever to play this game>The one>The only>The King™educate yourself, brainlet.
>>507625417*fyart*
>>507577905New F2P lineuphttps://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1872115367272673670
>>507625389??? the fuck did I dowasn't even me this time
kilvenz claim to fame is stealing the term "caggot" from someone else
>>507626285incredible
>>507624579They are paper
YUROS SHART THEIR PANTS AT THE MERE THOUGHT OF HIMJAPPAS GET SLICED INTO SASHIMIWHO IS HE?DAS RIGHTIT'S THE GAWD AMONG NAGAWDSCAN'T SPELL SKILL WITHOUT KIL
>>507626704skyll bros?
i coined the terms sigger and viggermany people use them wrong thoughever.The characters name must start with _ii.e nigger
>>507623395>Soriz has to take a huge risk to steal his turn back
Lobby status?
>>507627117just throw him or RPS with the armor bro… it’s all good
>>507626285>caggotThat's not mice...
>>507627117
>>507627228>just throw him bro
i coined the terms cagliostroon, troonB, metrana, etc.
>>507627371have you ever played against a soriz before
>>507627371just whiff punish or crush it…
>>507627627>Just crush it bro
>>507627924>>507627589
>>507627924are you the anon who thought vira could throw you in lumi?
>>507627924just punish his kick on whiff/block bro
>>507627989have you?
>>507628110you should try him out in training mode for a minute before making posts that makes it obvious you haven't even played against him once
>>507628092good ideawith what
>CHESTOOOO>SEISEISEISEIIIII>OI NEECHAN, SHOW ME YOUR TITS AND MAKE ME A SANDWICH
>>507628271>t. downplaying fucktard
>>507628309I know you’re trolling but you can just take your turn back on the kick>>507628461based
63% winrate in masters btw
>>507628554anon, just boot up training mode
>>507628570>>507627117it's like you don't get the point
>just guess right retard>says the gbvsg shitbirds who whine every thread about being gatekept from their rightful masters even after fkhrt's welfare update
>>507628694if you keep losing the RPS off of that move on block then I don’t know what to tell you>>507628824fighting games are literally all about informed guessing
>>507628110just zone him literally throw a fireball and you autowin like damn bro
>>507628606>quoting master statisticsas if gbvsg would know this
>>507624504
9 out of 10 posts berating someone else for their skill don't play at Master levelSeveral of them literally don't play the game at all. At any level.
>>507628606none of these faggots here had to play skyrll on soriz
>>507629701nice falseflag attempt Viraschizo (S)hitterOnly a true (S)hitter would have such a complex about their rank
Found one of them.
S ranks and below shouldn't post in gbvsgwho's with me>BUT WHAT ABOUT-shut the fuck up did I say I was finished?Stinky is exempted.
>>507630276b rank and below bros... why does stinky get the only exemption
>>507630448>he didn't e-celeb hard enough to get special treatment
>>507630834
Stinky gets away with everything...
I like big girls
i like medium girls
>>507630945good for you>>507631220good for you
he has pink square so it's okay
>>507631303yggy is everyone‘s girl
>taking ranked seriously in granpoop shartingnobody does this
I like draph girls
I like this kind of girl
>>507621412>You should spotdodge M versionYou should punch Soriz when he does that since he only gets a hitbox when he's on top of you. Unless you perfectly time your dodge he's still plus and can punish it.
Ggs anons and Merry Christmas to everyone. 13 people in the lobby was cool to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddk6pGwXBIcDoes anyone have tips for the Katalina matchup? I'm not sure if I can confidently try to counterpoke that f.M on reaction.
Golshi TO will come back... right?
>>507635805HE LEFT? I JUST ASSUMED HE'S ONE OF THE LOBBY REGULARS
>>507635929Pretty sure he said next tournament was in January. He needs time to make the Golden Golshi's let him rest...
I was gonna have another lonely Christmas but I got to have a lot of fun playing Bruise instead and took part in another lobby photo. GGs Bruiseanons. GGs lobbyanons. I love /gbvsg/. You are great!
https://youtu.be/T8r-ZQLpDhA?t=96THE STEALER STATUS: STOLEN
>>507636120
>>507636120ougi
Christmas is... over...
>>507636501Works on my machine
>>507635684gave it a quick watch but Kat was using a lot of preemptive pokes to keep you out. Your approaches felt pretty linear>not sure if I can confidently try to counterpoke that f.M on reactionI assume you mean whiff punish? It’s difficult but if you recognize when she wants to do it it should be doable with a normal, maybe even 236U? You can also low profile it but unsure if Soriz 2U has the range.I think you probably could have bullied your way in with 66H or a jump when she constantly poked you outAnd I feel like using 236U on her fireballs would be good. You tended to use 236U when Katalina was playing passive and they got blocked
Desu... I've been drinking for 3 days straight...
>>507638520That's a lot of eggnog...
>>507638520Only 3...?
>>507638618'tis the season...
>>507636501Christmas is never over
>>507638738H-How long have you been drinking...
ggs vane, eustace and cag anons. merry christmas.i swear im not dodging you nier anon
>>507638819Christmas is over when we SAY it's over.
>>507586865I'm not your teacheryou're my toy
>>507584432Why is her crown so bendy...?
>>507639868flesh is quite malleable
I'm simultaneously autistic, sentimental, and buzzed, so I spent some time editing the lobby pic. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a better template with easy to magic wand alpha channels and I wasn't going to keep editing for too long. It's still technically Christmas for 15 minutes.
>>507640123its beautiful and also fuck i missed it
>>507640123wtf I missed it
>>507638996I can't answer that
>>507640123Cute!
>>507640123I'm going to look back at this when I'm alone in my retirement home at age 83
>>507638996nta but ive been working on liver failure for 16 months now
>>507640123Why is yellow kot on both group photos
>>507640123Holy SOUL. Thank you anon I will unironically cherish this
>>507640891I didn't see the EU photo or I would have hacked them in.
>>507640123I have absolutely zero doubt we had the best Christmas in /vg/I wonder how ggg is doing
>>507641127next year we should organize a christmas orgy
thats pathetic
>>507641447>he wasnt invited again
>>507639752>says the public cumdump
It's funny there are more and more Eustaces and Unos ever since they got overtuned I mean fairly buffed
>>507641832no way dude im totally just playing uno because hes uh.. really uh... cool... yeah... definitely
>>507641832they are just letting the wolf inside them out
>Uno is... le top tier! xDSomehow even dumber than the guy trying to force the "Siegfried is mid-tier" meme.
>>507642031I feel publicly called out since I have wrote both of those statements
>>507642031go on, give me 3 weaknesses that uno has
I swear to god I'm only around when everyones gone
>>507642098hes malehes a manlethe cant even grow a proper beard
>>507638520herro nipponese hereWhat is eggnogWhat does it taste likeIs it goodNever had it beforeSankyuu you gaijin for your time arimasu
>>507642098he is shorter than 5'10" so he is worthless.two more? just reread the first line 2 more times
>>5076420981. ugly2. pringles facial hair3. nobody likes him
>>507642098he lost the genetic lottery and his bloodline will end with him
>>507642031Nyes that's right, Sieg has the slowest back dash and had no presence at CEOtaku. >thrusts hips at youCome on, cup my balls. Do it.
>uno has one unsafe move that pushes him out of range of 99% of the cast to be punished>can high profile moves with a safe on block far heavyissa low tier
>>507642098I just saw a fucking actual midget female say she likes tall menbeing a manlet is the worst curse
>>507642098Slow movement speedNo DPVery slow buttons aside from f.L
>>507642437>requires a stool to even get a blowjobdamn
>>507642437lunalu is a cute
>>507642493>no DPhe has something better, a safe on whiff parry, and a punish if they try to punish you for whiffing>slow movement speedhe has ice car>very slow buttonsthey hit half the screen and are all safe.
ISSA LOW TIER
>>507642098No damageAss strike/throwLoses to Rat
>somebody bought me a gift I wasn't expecting>don't know what to give backhelp
>>507643093touhou luna nights
>>507643034oh thank god hes only a 2 touch character instead of a 2 touch character
>>507643093>social interactionjust kill me desu
>>507643161that might be a decent idea for another buddy. this one doesn't like weeb shit as much though
>>507642237I'm not sure I believe either of those things Anon... but in the very off chance you are being serious, it's kind of like... drinking ice cream?Like an alcoholic vanilla ice cream with cinnamon and other spices?
>>507643161actually really fun. a shame its so short.
>>507643093You fool, you have to set your wish list on private to avoid stuff like that!
>>507643429I have now learned...
>>507643192>Training mode combo
>>507643698>close heavies never happen>parrying moves never happens
>>507642098>harvin>male harvin>male harvin for eternityI would be cosmically crushed by the sheer existential dread myself
>>507643093just thank him nigga lol
>niggers really try to downplay a character that has every single tool in the game
is his almost instant overhead skill reactable at all?
>>507643996do female harvins like male harvins at least?
>>507644132You mean the EX throwbait? I think it's as reactable as Narmaya's EX flip, so no, and you eat a full grounded combo instead of just getting launched.
>>507644284not the EX version, but the TK H versionosakanasan kept using it and it worked every time
>some dumb nigga says low damage exists in shartingthats how you know they haven't played the game
>>507642237Thine but lactose intolerant thus the pursuit of the mythical westerner eggnog is but futile for thou
Cagliostro is the prettiest girl in the world
>>507645634that's an old man the perspective is supremely fucked
swishYou there, human. How many times do I have to tell you that the all female Harvin village is off limits?
>>507645727>the perspective is supremely fuckedholy fuck it really is
Oh no! Charlotta Fenia (24) captain of the holy knights is in trouble!
>>507645998I'm just going to make my own all female Harvin village then
>>507646303>draphsdeport them immediately
>>507646250why is clarisse being a whore on christmas
>>507646398>not taking good care of touristsYou'd make a shitty village head
>>507646303>>507646560>on a certain island, draph fall from the skykiller namesecond only to>maybe fucking kids is wrong...?
>>507646626What the fuck that name goes hard lmao
>>507646474She wants Danchou's seed
>>507643161Thank you for the help anon
>>507646657She should get in lineI also regret googling "I need cock gran" while looking for this image
sex with cag
In hindsight I can understand what happened but in the middle of the match with a billion glowing sparkles, lmao
>>507647480actually scrap that what the fuck happened there anyway
>>507647480What the hell? Does soriz still get his 236U armor frames off clash?
>>507647845He didnt mash instantly so he kept the properties of the move. Althoughbeit it was probably just a late reaction on his end.
I need draphs to be real
>>507647981Okay that makes more sense. still what a cursed interaction
>>507647480is this the biggest scam of all time
>>507648007IMAGINE...
>>507648179I'm going to cry
Narmaya would be infinitely better with a cock
>>507647110Lol, Golden Knight(Alliah) also ends up wanting danchou's cock, and opening bakery later after leaving an heir
>>507642460>I just saw a fucking actual midget female say she likes tall men
>>507648179breasts too big
Anila's bulging balls...
https://youtu.be/ZPOaqbNNhbAlol its a scamdown
>>507648941manletbros it’s so fucking over…
>>507648997Begone
>>507648997Yours is too small
Cow for season 2
>>507649947moohoohoo
>>507649947I'm sorry cow but it must be pig
>>507650074why not both
>>507649947Cow is a sweetheart and her voice is adorable. Hope she makes it in with one other divine general
>>507650214We're not getting two divine generals in season two
>>507650392that’s too bad thenhope you guys like monkey
season is literally 6 divine generals
>>507650545+ sandal + raziel
>>507650484I do
>>507650856do you like her for any reason besides pedophiliac tendencies
>>507651331not him but you’re annoying as hellmost people like characters for all sorts of superficial reasons anyways and that includes personality
>>507651331She's cute, she could make for a genuinely fun and cancer trickster-type character in Rising and she carried my ass for a while in the gacha.
monki
It will be pig and that is final
>>507651845piggu is good too
>>507651845Cow has a bike, checkmate
the problem is that all divine generals are greatwhile they give us vane and unoi think the one i like the least is tigers
Here's your Monkey, bro
>>507652164that monkey is a little overgrown
>>507640123Dude, this is amazing. Thank you.
Okay fine, FINE.Anyone wanna tell me why I suck at Zoi?
>>507652890you’re not NEETing hard enough
>>507652890Well I need to see a replay first.
>>507647480excellent overlay
>>507653259ThanksCould probably do better job with it, it got kinda stretched because the original images were too big, but here it is if you want it
>>507652931>>507653042I'll fuck anyone who thinks they stand a chance, just host!
>>507653818You meant to say "fuck up" right?Right?
>>507653818I’m too busy being a lazy NEET in bed to host
did someone say NEET?
>>507654705Holy...
>>507654705I prefer this one
>>507654705those tits look hard to carry. I know a guy who can take care of that
>>507654774jeanne dork
Is Sheep anon around?
>>507655535in 2 hours.
MY COCKDEMANDSA SACRIFICEHOST
>>507655872this doesnt look safe for work, anon :(
>>507655937it's okay it's censored
you should consider masturbate before posting
>>507655872the rising advertisers are going to freak
>>507656252Rising has advertisers?
>>507655872holy sexo
why is there no wholesome neechang art, it's always horny neechang...
>>507655872take your vacation like a champ and post more Draphs please
>>507656520wym there's a lot of that id argue there's more cutesychang than pornchang
>>507656551Ehh?
>>507656338It did. In stadiums with MLB games. I am not joking.
I WILLCONTINUE
draphs mog so hard
Where is...Sheep anon...
Humanity would be doomed if draphs existed
>>507659067WHERE IS SHEEP ANON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>507659206lips too big, 2/10
>>507659274t. tiny dick
>>507659274Well I just wanna fight Sheep anon. I get y'all are mad good, super good! Too good for me. So let y'all hang out and be the strongest.HOWEVER.I wanna fight Sheep anon. Little fag that he is....
Thread dying wake up silly Europeans Christmas is over
Thank g*d its over
>>507661567Which is why we're either at work or getting ready to go to work.
WHY DOES LUCIFER TRANSCENDENCE EAT SO MUCH SAND? AAAAAAA
>>507662751>not having enough sand to uncap Luci, Baha and all the evokers>posting in the wrong thread
it's fine bwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF7eJacQ-ig
Happy Boxing Day!
Consider this Zoi
>>507663890SHEEP ANONI RESENT YOU....no waitI DESIRE YOU
STYOP CHANGING NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
Mnyo
>>507663151wow rat really looks low tier
>>507664089>sheep anonAnon I just wanted to post Zoi don't make this weird
>>507664940IT IS YOU*Sheeerrrrrrre*Shearing yourself!IT IS TIME!
>>507664382you can't say that
SHEEP ANONYOOL ANONWHORE THAT YOU ARE!!!We stand, at the precipice.Cause I find you so fun to fight!
To be honest I'm waiting for the One Piece game to completely demolish everything else BUT UNTIL THENSTAND AGAINST ME
zamn he went from morning raggertroon to this?
Ragger fags be like:
>>507665962That's not me though?
>a charlotta called waffle>now a charlotta called applewhat's with charlottas and food?
>>507666457theres also a charlotta called carrot iirc
>>507667347So, do you just get your tranny hole torn apart by Pot and then come here to cry about it?
>>507667347based pot demolishing another tranny
>>507667497potemkin is indian so he can't be based however
>>507667576whatever you say, tranny
>>507667813bloody basterd bitch do not redeem pootemkin's command grab saaars
hm
I hope Vas anon sticks around and becomes an integrated, productive member of our community.
>>507667347I wish Rising would be a low damage three-touch game like Strive
>>507668714belial is a 3 touch character
>>507668286he already played in lobby he’s cooler than 90% of the thread
>>507668286i.e. plays bruise all day
>>507668714https://youtu.be/Qv62xKfmI-E?si=W0cXG7ohKrblURYUHow many touches were in this round?
soon
I need some help.Am i understanding this correctly:Startup frames - how long it takes to hit my opponentActive frames - how long the attack can hit my opponentRecovery frames - how long until i can move after an attackTotal frames - all of the 3 above combinedFirst active frame - first Active frame of an attack?Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?Why is there more than 1 Active frame?Im not sure i quite understand why/when i would use 2H or my grab skill to hit enemies in the air? The grab skill does a bit more damage but throws my enemy far away. When i use 2H i can land more hits so the damage from grab skill isnt that big of a difference?In addition to that, my grab skill throws the opponent very far away, why is that? Isnt Vaseraga a character made to be very close to the opponent? Should i not use it and Throw instead so they stay a bit closer to me?I watched some video about grapplers (i think Vaseraga is one?) and people say to spam the grab moves often, but isnt that annoying to my enemy? Videos say that once you spam the grab moves the enemy will be scared when youre close to them and try to jump away or use the invincible move and i can land a combo if i predict that.Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7. I think the same happens with my charge skill.I will post a bit more soon but need try try some stuff in Training first.
>>507664245WHO DO YOU MEAN
>>507670193>isnt that annoying to my enemy? I don:t have the time to answer to the rest of your post right now but doing stuff that's annoying for your opponent is the essence pretty much every competitive game.
>>507669783wtf wavie is still alive?
>>507670193don't grab at all, it's bm. trust me. you WILL be blocked.
>>507670704this is a perfect horse
>>507670774why are you like this
>>507670193>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7.because of the active frames. 66L has 3. so depending on how late you hit your opponent on those active frames, you recover faster and can be up to +8 on hit.active frames make it easier to hit your opponent or punish their moves.
>>507670193>but isnt that annoying to my enemy?do you want to win or not? fuck them. grapplers are supposed to grab.
>>507670864kill all grappas
>>507665093>>507659206bimbokino
>>507670193>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?because it wouldnt make sense otherwise. how are you going to be plus on whiff?>Why is there more than 1 Active frame?lingering hitbox. makes it easier to meaty and such>why does my grab send them far awayi dont play Vas, but i assume its for when you want to send them to the corner, or maybe it allows for better oki in the corner >I watched some video about grapplers (i think Vaseraga is one?) and people say to spam the grab moves often, but isnt that annoying to my enemy? Videos say that once you spam the grab moves the enemy will be scared when youre close to them and try to jump away or use the invincible move and i can land a combo if i predict that.Grapplers are all about 50/50s and RPS. you condition your opponent to block so you can mix up them to death (you cant tech command grabs). When they get scared, they start jumping (you cant be grabbed during pre-jump frames), and if you predict it then you get big damage. Also its SUPPOSED to be annoying, people have a hate boner for grapplers for a reason>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)?it differs depending on what frame of the active frame you hit them with. When your active frame hits them, thats when their blockstun starts, so if you hit them with the last possible active frame, their blockstun is going to start later, leading to you having more advantage.its why you do jump-in attacks close to the ground, because landing auto-cancels the attack
>>507670193>Startup frames - how long it takes to hit my opponent>Active frames - how long the attack can hit my opponent>Recovery frames - how long until i can move after an attack>Total frames - all of the 3 above combined>First active frame - first Active frame of an attackCorrect.>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?It usually depends on how big of a reward an attack has. Light attacks are the fastest and are used to interrupt opponent's pressure the most, so they lead to little damage and are hard to punish on whiff. Heavies are usually the longest reaching buttons out of the 3 (light medium heavy) so they have the longest start ups and take the most to recover on whiff.>Im not sure i quite understand why/when i would use 2H or my grab skill to hit enemies in the air?Anti-air grab is much faster than 2H (9 vs 13 frames) and builds more meter, which is vital for Vas. Throwing an opponent fullscreen gives you enough time to apply your 5U which is important. And yeah, in some match-ups where it's hard for Vas to get in that can be a negative. Like for example, against someone like Metera who zones you 99% of the match and you would be lucky to get in 3 times a round you might want to not throw her where she gets to continue zone you, even if you get to have the buff.Also if midscreen 2H doesn't counter hit, Vas usually needs to spend a resource to extend an anti air combo. However getting a COUNTER HIT 2H is usually better than his anti air grab, so there are some things to consider there as well.>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7. I think the same happens with my charge skill.Because (like you yourself said) moves have many active frames, you can space out some moves to hit the opponent at their later or last frames which will make an otherwise +0 or minus move, plus. Like Vas' tackle.
>>507670193>Startup frames - how long it takes to hit my opponentIt's the number of frames before the move's hitbox appears on screen and becomes active. So "how long it takes to hit my opponent" isn't quite right. The move might never hit at all (if you're out of range for example), or it might first hit the opponent late into the active frames (the hitbox of an attack can move around during the active frames for example, i.e. a downward sword strike where the sword starts above your head and moves downwards so the hitbox moves down with the sword).>Active frames - how long the attack can hit my opponentIt's how long the attack's hitbox is active on the screen. So basically yes.>Recovery frames - how long until i can move after an attackYes>Total frames - all of the 3 above combinedYes>First active frame - first Active frame of an attack>?Yes>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?Not really sure what you're talking about here, can you give an example?>Why is there more than 1 Active frame?There's a few different reasons, probably the most basic one is that if you want to properly animate e.g. a kick or a sword slash attack, your character's leg or sword has to be extended for more than one frame and "hang" there for several frames, so it makes sense for the hitbox of the move to stay active for multiple frames as well. Things like meaties would also be extremely difficult to time if moves were only active for one frame.>Im not sure i quite understand why/when i would use 2H or my grab skill to hit enemies in the air? The grab skill does a bit more damage but throws my enemy far away. When i use 2H i can land more hits so the damage from grab skill isnt that big of a difference?2H is the most common antiair. Air throws are very situational, they're occasionally useful when the opponent is jumping at an awkward place that your 2H can't cover.
>>507670193>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?Frame (dis)advantage on hit, on block and on whiff basically define the risk of an attack. It's defined by the differential between your attack's total frame count and the hit/block stun inflicted by that move. Also, attacks with long startup might be reactable or get stuffed by quicker moves, long recovery make you punishable and give an opportunity to your opponent. However, they migh give you higher damages or enable powerful combos. In fact, some attacks can only be linked depending on your frame advantage, exactly because some moves give you more frame on hit, or they have a quicker startup.It was historically just a direct retranscription of how animation works, but it quickly became one way to balance character.Some attacks have a higher count of active frames. This allows you to hit "meaty", which means hitting with the additional active frames instead of the first. When you hit an opponent, the hit stun is always the same amount, starting from the active frame you hit them with. In other words, hitting your opponent later gives you more frame advantage.There is a mod that indicates all that visually quite clearly.
>>507670193>In addition to that, my grab skill throws the opponent very far away, why is that? Isnt Vaseraga a character made to be very close to the opponent? Should i not use it and Throw instead so they stay a bit closer to me?I don't want to get too deep into Vas-specific advice since I'm not a Vas expert, but different types of throws have different properties in order to balance them out (e.g. a command throw might be untechable, but in exchange, it gives you a weaker oki situation than a normal throw).For Vas, if you throw the opponent far away, it's an opportunity to set up Soul Forge.>I watched some video about grapplers (i think Vaseraga is one?)Vaseraga is not a grappler, but he is a bigbody, which is very similar (large slow characters that typically have high HP, high damage output, and weaker defensive tools).> and people say to spam the grab moves often, but isnt that annoying to my enemy?Being annoying is a good thing. You want to frustrate the opponent and make them more likely to make mistakes. You're here to win not to make the other guy feel good. The mental game is a huge part of fighting games.> Videos say that once you spam the grab moves the enemy will be scared when youre close to them and try to jump away or use the invincible move and i can land a combo if i predict that.Yes>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7. I think the same happens with my charge skill.Frame advantage of a move can change based on the spacing it connects at. (This actually relates to your question about active frames earlier. If you hit them later in the active frames of the move, you put them into blockstun later, AND you have fewer active/recovery frames of the move to burn through yourself before you're allowed to move again, so you end up being more plus.)
thread is finally talking about the game
>>507672364>Vaseraga is not a grappler,what the fuck determines if someone is a grappler
>>507672678God I want to fuck Zeta’s brains out
I’m not the vaseraga guy but how the fuck am I supposed to remember all this stuff when I’m playing a match and people are hitting me with a million attacks?
>>507672678God I want Zeta to sit on my face
>>507672678I want Zeta to show me her f-shiki
>>507672678I want to hold hands with Zeta.
>>507671817>text limitALSO also when it comes to 2H vs 632146M. 2H has more vertical range so in some cases when your priority is to just get one hit in you might want to use 2H even if it's slower. >Unfortunately there's a weird dead zone in his 2H, where it won't hit the opponent who is jumping right in front of your face so there's that too. I usually go for 2Hs unless I know I might not react in time to stuff a jump, then I'd go for 632146M.ALSO also also, when using any kind of version of 632146X (besides the ult one) in the corner, instead of getting a safe 5U, you get a safe jump.
>>507672774You don’t. you remember part of it and then the rest is slowly reinforced into you
>>507672715It’s somewhat subjective. There’s no “official” definition. But basically a grappler is a character whose main win condition is a command throw (or the threat thereof). Vas has a strong command throw but his main win con is Soul Forge plus his armored walk.
>>507672678I want Zeta to stop screeching like a harpy so I can enjoy sex with Bea
>>507672774You don’t. Once you know how to play the game it basically feels like playing any other video game. The homework study part is just so you can understand why certain interactions work the way they do, and it helps build your intuition for how to make good decisions in-game.
>>507673009>screeching like a harpyThat’s that gorilla Beatrix. Zeta has the beautifully clear cries of a warrior
>>507663890i need zoujosama so bad
>>507663890>ohohohoho and just like that Cygames came up with something no one knew they wanted
>>507670553>>507670774>>507670869>>507670979>>507671632>>507671817>>507672252>>507672284>>507672364>>507672959What i meant was that when i hit with my c.L (close Light), im +8, but when it gets blocked im only +4.Thank you.Can you help me with how i read the frames? I understand the Total Frames being all of the attack and Advantage being + or - but how do i see how many active frames an attack has? Or how much recovery frames it has?
>>507673982>how do i see how many active frames an attack has?that's the neat part you don't. unless you install a frame data mod
>>507672774What are you having trouble thinking about? If its the frame data, i wouldnt worry too much about the specifics as most of it isnt important. just know what moves are plus, and which ones are punishable on block. dont worry about hitting with the latter active frames, its only really matters for certain meaty options and specific special moves that advance your character forward, in which case its best to hit at max range (like viras 214L for example is -6 at close range and is punishable on block, or -4 when used at max range, and is safe on block)most things carry over between games with minor differences too, its not as hard as it sounds
>>507673982>but when it gets blocked im only +4When you hit the opponent with a move, they get put into hitstun. When they block your move, they get put into blockstun. They’re two different numbers, the devs can set them to be whatever they want.Hitstun almost always lasts longer than blockstun because the purpose of hitstun is to allow you to combo into the next move, so you need a lot of frames to do that. Blockstun can’t last for that long because otherwise you’d have crazy pressure strings that the opponent couldn’t escape from, so blockstun might give you a LITTLE frame advantage but not much.
>>507673982>What i meant was that when i hit with my c.L (close Light), im +8, but when it gets blocked im only +4. youre +8 because its giving you enough hitstun to combo. youre +4 on block because the opponent blocked your attack, and the game is giving you a chance for a mix up (if they mash when youre plus, they get frame trapped and eat a combo, if they continue blocking, then they leave themselves open for being thrown. This is the foundation for strike/throw mix)it will make more sense if you use c.M or c.H instead, as being plus on block is the exception, not the norm. most attacks are minus on block, so If a move is blocked, you must either chain it into another normal/special (a blockstring), go for a mix, or give up your turn if you end it on a safe on block move (its safe on block if its less than -5).
>>507673982i wouldnt worry about frame data on hit, its unneeded and will just add to the confusion. Its just hitstun to allow you to combo; just play around and see what your combo routes and ignore frame data on hitAll you need to know is what moves are plus on block, and which moves are punishable on block
>>507675110>and see what your combo routes andand see what your combo routes are and***
>>507675110I agree with this anon
>all 3 stores ive went to dont have mucinex>online orders dont accept my drivers licensethis might be the end for me kizzingtonsi can feel myself slowly becoming a lance playerfukunaga im coming
>>507675878cute mom
>>507674745>>507674698>>507674081>>507675110>>507675225>>507675286My 2 hit combo is -3.My 3 hit combo is -4.My L is +2, M is -4 and H is -15.My c.L/c.M/c.H are +4/+3/-4.My 2L is 0, 2M is -6, 2H is -13.My projectile is -3, Mprojectile is -9, Hprojectile is +3, Uprojectile is +24.Charge skill is -8 for both L and M, H is -5, U is -6.My grab skill is +35 for L and H (M is in the air) and U is +44.5U is -6.66L is +2, 66M is -14 (but it hits crouching opponents?), 66H is -4.With most of these being -, why not just wait for my opponent to be - instead of trying to attack and leave myself vulnerable?Should i be using the grab skill as much as possible then since its so +?What should i Meaty with, my c.H? (It has First Active Frame 15)Should i never use my charge skill unless i want to extend a combo or get close with Armor since its always -?Why do you say its safe on block if its less than -5? I dont seem to have any attack that is that fast. The attack with the fastest First Active Frame is my 2L at 6.How do you do that thing where you get close to try and bait a Throw then go back slightly and in again to hit when they get baited (i forgot the term for it)? I always seem to get caught with the Throw when walking back.
>>507676581because offense is better than defense in this game
>>507676581>Why do you say its safe on block if its less than -5?because the fastest moves in the game are close lights at 5 frames and throw at 4 frames. (vaseraga unfortunately doesn't get to have one of these).
>>507676581>>507676728>>507676962I forgot to add to this, should i always prioritise my grab skill over a Throw?Why cannot i chain (link?) any skill after 66M?Why cannot i chain (link?) my 5U after 2U but i can do skills?
>>507676581>How do you do that thing where you get close to try and bait a Throw then go back slightly and in again to hit when they get baited (i forgot the term for it)? I always seem to get caught with the Throw when walking back.go into control settings and turn your backdash on dash macro on and use that to avoid the throw button. Alternatively you space it properly and walk back enough to not get hit but I believe vas has one of the worst? backward walk speeds. I may be wrong.
>>507676581Anon, no offense but youre REALLY overthinking things.>With most of these being -, why not just wait for my opponent to be - instead of trying to attack and leave myself vulnerable?Youre not vulnerable, youre minus. all that means is the other player can take their turn on offense >should i be using [skill] as much as possibleeverything in moderation. dont be predictable as everything has counterplay>Why do you say its safe on block if its less than -5? I dont seem to have any attack that is that fast. The attack with the fastest First Active Frame is my 2L at 6.other characters have faster attacks. -5 and under is safe on block as it guarantees that youll be able to block any attack the opponent sends out if they block your attack. -6 and above is punishable on block because it means its possible for the opponent to hit you before you can block>How do you do that thing where you get close to try and bait a Throw then go back slightly and in again to hit when they get baitedthats called a shimmy. throws have decent range in this game, so just practice being right outside the range
>>507675878>i can feel myself slowly becoming a lance playerI'll put you out of your misery anon. Just look at the flowers...
>>507677093>I forgot to add to this, should i always prioritise my grab skill over a Throw?almost always yes>Why cannot i chain (link?) any skill after 66M?just how it is>Why cannot i chain (link?) my 5U after 2U but i can do skills?just how it is
>>507675878don’t do it bro…
I don't think anybody in the game can do 5U after 2U right?
>>507676581>With most of these being -, why not just wait for my opponent to be - instead of trying to attack and leave myself vulnerable?Anon, what are you going to do when the opponent finishes their blockstring and is minus? Youre going to attack and start your own blockstring. Youre not changing anything here, youre just giving your opponent free reign to run their mix on you first. youre not gaining anything, all youre doing is putting yourself in disadvantage. What if your opponent has a projectile or plays safe with pokes without giving you a clear "I AM ENDING MY BLOCKSTRING NOW" signal? youre just sitting there then
just BC bro, didnt pay 50 dollars to block
>>507677376>>507677169>>507677159>>507678035Im sorry. Its just that i want to be a threat when im close but what usually happens is i attack 2 or 3 times which the enemy blocks and then they hit me back.I played with people from here that would throw projectiles at me and jump/run around and even when i got close they would manage to get away from me.Is my grab skill working the same as a Throw except it cannot be countered, meaning i can catch Cross Overs and Evades with it?Im sorry if im being annoying.
>>507678561>Im sorry. Its just that i want to be a threat when im close but what usually happens is i attack 2 or 3 times which the enemy blocks and then they hit me back.you have to do a blockstring so the enemy will be afraid to mash
>>507678561if they are mashing you need to frametrap them. that will discourage them to mash and you can reset into more pressure and your throws.
>>507678561>Is my grab skill working the same as a Throw except it cannot be countered, meaning i can catch Cross Overs and Evades with it?yes you can.>>507678561>Im sorry if im being annoying.its all good
>>507678561command grabs act just as regular grabs, except they cant be teched and they beat out other grabs.Vas is a big body brawler whose gameplan is to close in on the opponent and put them into a vortex of strike/throw mix for game.>what usually happens is i attack 2 or 3 times which the enemy blocks and then they hit me back id recommend looking up basic blockstring and strikethrow guides, as if you dont have a plan, then youre just giving up your turn.Your blockstring gameplan should be as follows:Condition your opponent to block, then throw out command grabs when they start respecting your pressure. Do this by ending your pressure in a plus on block move. When youre plus, your c.L counterhits people mashing. once you condition them not to mash, thats when you start throwing out command grabs and then it starts to boil down to coin flips. You need to mix up your blockstrings so your opponent doesnt know when it ends. You shouldnt be getting hit back unless your ending with a risky move that is punishable on block
>>507680004punchable face.
>>507680004thank you
Thank you for the help.>>507679254>>507679232>>507678884>>507678723Last post and ill stop for now, sorry.>Do this by ending your pressure in a plus on block moveCould you give me an example of that? Im not sure what that means with so few moves being + for me, you mean i finish my attacks that hit them then walk up and do a single c.L and then do a new 3 hit attack and if they try to interrupt me they get hit?
>>507681163>Last post and ill stop for now, sorry.You don't need to be sorry. People are glad to teach/discuss the game, and it's not like we have anything else to do.
>>507680952correct that is my mistress
>>507681419MASTURBATE! DE ARIMASU
God, imagine Djeeta running around naked... her penis flopping in the wind...
>>507681776She never mentions doing that nude you fucking freak
>>507681163It's actually really fun answering your questions, it's so rare that we get someone who is both 1) brand new to fighting games and 2) actually wants to learn the game instead of just complaining all the time. So feel free to ask as many questions as you want.
>>507681885rude
>>507681776Djeeta the exhibitionist
>>507678561The way pressure works for each character is really specific to that character so the best thing to do is just watch replays from good Vas players and try to understand what they're doing and copy it.The most basic RPS in the game is strike vs throw. You make people afraid you're going to attack, so they block, but then instead of doing a strike, you do a throw. There's a lot more layers to it but that's the basic idea.One basic thing you can do is cL followed by throw, which beats blocking, or cL followed by a SLIGHTLY delayed cH, which beats mashing.You can go into training mode and set the dummy to mash cL after blocking a hit. Try hitting the dummy with cL followed by cH, if you get the big red counter animation then your frametrap worked.>>507681163Most characters in the game don't have easy access to plus-on-block moves that they can use in pressure strings. For Vaseraga almost everything he has is minus. But you can run pressure even if all your moves are minus, so you need to learn how to do that.Vaseraga's armored walk is a huge part of his pressure but that's a thing that's unique to him that no one else has so it's best to learn that stuff from someone who mains the character.
>>507681163I wish I could find you a video summarizing these concepts anon but in general you dont want to use the triple attack since it leaves no room for your opponent to make a mistake (outside of getting by a high/low at the end, if you choose to do that).Since vaseraga has weird(slow) buttons I am not sure how he actually does his frametraps/pressure sequences and hope one of the vas anons can give you concrete advice.But for example close light ends up being +4 on block. You are essentially guaranteed a follow up unless you press something far too slow. So you can do two of these back to back before you are pushed out of c.L range and require a further(slower) button. You could press that button(far light for example), you could also follow it up with a plus on block special(say fireball) or you could walk up slightly and attempt to throw them, or command throw them on vas.Your goal is to force them into taking some risk on taking their turn back and not just letting you endlessly slide up and bop them. When you always do the triple attack autocombo sequence there is little guesswork involved for the other player.This video is probably over long and there might be more concise ones them this but it might help you a lot to watch some parts of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFYNB9HZrNY
>>507681163i dont play Vas so i dont know the specifics, but your c.L , c.M , and 66L are all plus. so you can Mix doing stuff like:66L > c.L / grabc.M > c.M (link it, dont autocombo it, it becomes a frame trap)c.L > c.M > c.M / grab66L > c.L > c.M > c.M > command grabYou can chain together multiple frametraps in a row to make the pressure more ambiguous, although dont become too predictable because frametraps can be DP'd out of. mix. 214L/M are safe combo enders, and 214H/U are risky pressure resets with plus frames, but theyre not frametraps so you can be hit out of them, so mix when you do them in blockstrings (as in dont autopilot into doing all three hits of the autocombo, then 214H, because then its obvious what youre doing and when)
Replay takeover will save season 2
>>507681163Do you want to play some mirror? I will show you what to do as him.
>>507683442it's probably just the color, but I can't stop seeing this vas as an edgy spurdo
>>507683442you should fight this manhe might even be euro
>>507683712I think the only Vaseraga players I've seen here on /gbvsg/ were the Bruise obsessed kot and the Grimgawd when he participated in a tourney with it
>>507681776I was just thinking earlier how funny it would be if the chibi Djeeta had a big futa cock you could ram into the other chibis in the lobby.
>>507683442Yes.>>507683247>>507682974>>507682769Thank you. I very rarely use that forward walking skill.I also often struggle with doing c. attacks since i constantly get pushed back when attacking so i struggle to get super close to do them.
>>507684009Yeah in general Vaseraga is not a character who wants to run in and get close. Your plan is to make people give you space with your massive buttons so you have time to set up the armor.
>>507684009>Yes.see in you 5 minutes in our lobby
>>507681163What the first dude said, characters have their own unique way of utilizing their kit to play out their offense.Some characters are plus frames machines like Belial, where everything he does is plus and he just keeps cycling plus frames in your face.Vaseraga isn't like thatI can't really do a good write up on how he works because I don't play him, but watching some replays is bound to give you some ideasTake this game as an examplehttps://youtu.be/hNzKRL7figYFirst round. You can see he doesn't rush into Nier, instead he jumps back. He keeps walking back and then tries to interrupt Nier walking forward with his charge. She respects it and he presses fL, then he tries to pressure her with his H chad walk, but gets thrown out of it. Nier pressures him for a bit, the exact same scenario as above plays out again.Vaseraga interrupts Nier's pressure with his down Light (2L) and combos into chadwalk slam, takes a chunk of her. Ends the combo and uses meter to continue pressure with his projectile. He then grabs her with his Heavy command grab. Nier is now at about 27% health, but you can see that even with such a health lead, he still plays conservatively. After he throws her, he starts to try and chip her out.You can go into that youtube channel, there's a playlist with Vaseraga replays
>>507679254>and they beat out other grabs.command grabs dont have immunity to regular grabs if that's what you're saying.
>>507684527they dont but if they actually land on the same frame the command grab wins.
>>507684690obviously a niche scenario since they have more range to begin with but for the sake of the other anon i assume that is what he meant.
>>507684429>the awkward pause where they both back up and stare at each other after bc fails on a 66l at 2:21
I have a feeling people are waking up to the avatar belial question
>>507686074I'm seeing more of them around
>>507684429https://youtu.be/hNzKRL7figY?t=179>desu>desu>desucute combo
>>507667347this looks balanced compared to this webm
>>507686341i wouldn't fist bump him either after this shit
>>507686472the better play won bro shake his hand
>>507686341>trannydeserved. stop ruining fighting games
>>507686341>drive half a country (or, since they seem American, half a fucking continent) to enter tourney>pay tourney fee to enter tourney>lose to thisSame mental illness as Yugioh players doing the same to lose to Stun because you can't draw your fucking outs
https://youtu.be/QSKPI_uMdco?t=124kek
>>507686341Partysharter game
>anon who claims he dislikes strive and doesn't play it, keeps posting webms of it
>>507686596>doing the same to lose to StunQRD? (never played a card game in my life)
>>507686715https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWbBuVfQDY
The one time when I asked a character specific question as a newfag all i got was snarky sarcastic responses and called a retard. Meanwhile this newfag is literally asking "what button do i press to walk forward" and everyone is being the most polite and helpful person in the world? I hate you all
>>507687072what did you ask and about who..
>>507687072you likely asked something for>belial>kat>bea>zonersall that people here hate
>>507686715I hate this bitch so much
>>507687072you asked at the wrong time. it's EU hours right now. what to try again?
>>507686715>aids vs cancer
>>507687072There's something like 100 different people who post here every thread. It depends on who you were (un)lucky enough to run into that day.The Vas anon said this is his first fighting game and he's genuinely making an effort to learn and ask detailed questions so I think that makes people more likely to help.Also yeah if you asked about Nier tech near launch or something then that would have invited shitposting.
>>506165708 Holy shit I found itAnd I hate youtube algo so much man, it's so stupid. I literally put it in the search bar ''google talk futanari porn'' (and variants, you get the idea) but instead got a whole lot of fucking futas dangling their cocks in my face on youtube instead of what I was actually looking forhttps://youtu.be/p-A8GvUehq4
I havent played in a year or any other fighting games but I got the urge to play, should I..
>>507687072maybe your questions were bad
>>507686596I've gotten a little into TCGs lately and it's hilarious how much of the discourse is EXACTLY the same ("it's all about full aggro these days", "why can't we just go back to when the game was honest?")Also control deck players are the equivalent of zoners ("why don't the devs support our archetype? we deserve to be meta too", "why do people get mad at me when my entire strategy is to prevent them from playing the game as much as possible?")
>>507686961Back in time (20 years ago), Monster effects were a few, rare and not that powerful.Slowly, the game evolved being heavily centered on Monster effects, becoming more powerful etc..This 20 years old card then kept getting better because of that, and so many similar ones that slow down the pace of the game (in Yugioh you play your entire deck out in one turn almost). Since they limit the pace of the game, it's called "Stun". Basically what they do is activate all of these, you can't play shit, your opponent plays something big that completely ignores all your bullshit or their own even and just doesn't let you play and they win in like 10 turns because you can't find the few cards in your deck that actually counter this strategy because it's card game so RNG is included.So basically you drive to another country, pay the fee blabla just to get stunlocked and not being able to play at all. GGs shake my hand bro.This is actually quite rare for you to happen to a tournament because actual Stun decks are actually bad, but most of the times meta decks are even worse than this in terms of unfun.
>>507687613play wit this dick
>>507687502>am i gonna watch 48 mins of nerds talking about porn searchesmmmm maybe
>>507687613Yes!
>>507687613will you cum on your own face?
>>507687502>Ougi Ogas
>>507687219>>507687221I was a playing for a few days at that point. I was asking what i was supposed to do when the opponent would just sit in block and instant tech all my throw attempts. I got no actual answer, some guy asked who I was playing. I said Narmaya, and then I got called a retard, was told to kill myself and one guy said "fwip"
>>507687072if your post started with the usual "Why does X get to do Y" sarcastic question then you deserved it.
>>507686935
>>507688053I already spermed into my hand and didnt wash it off yet but I've done that before
>>507687694How long do matches of yugioh take to play out? Is it a best of one setting?I kind of lied, I played a tiny bit of ARTIFACT when it first launched and would blow my brains out if something like this happened to me in grand finals or some shit
>>507687502>Ougi gives a talk about futa pornMeme magic is real
>>507688286megabased
>>507688286>shitposting folderterminally online tranny
>>507688241>one guy said "fwip"based
>>507688241The way you present your question could be a factor. And sometimes the thread is just ass
>>507688405Bo3Who starts first is a coinflip so yeah if you start first the Stun deck is getting fucked because they get to beat you in Game 2 but in Game 3 you go first again and they have no way preventing you from playing your turn 1. But if you lose it? lol Hope they don't draw good. Yugioh is garbage like that, even with meta or normal decks.You play your entire deck out the 1st turn, if your opponent drew a good hand they break your board and win, otherwise you win, almost every game is decided at turn 3.
>>507688241That's a really controversial question, so while I don't condone the shitposting, I understand why you got sarcastic answers. A lot of people have LOUDLY complained about how weak throws are in Rising, but some people are opposed to the idea that throws in Rising are inherently weaker than they are in other games.That being said, "fwip" was actually a legitimate answer, because it is a great throwbait.
>>507688241you are playing scamchang you got what's coming
>>507688241as the guy who asked you who you were playing and the guy who said fwip... im sorry.
>>507688116>>507688406
>>507688241desu that's funny>one guy said "fwip"so you did get help
>>507688241That's what you get for being a disgusting scamchang.Fwip is unironically a good answer every time
>>507688649Is this a running theme among all card games? I did try to play hearthstone at one point but immediately realized how frustrated I was when I had bad initial cards and it felt like I was destined to just lose with no recourse outside of getting insanely lucky in the next few turns.I don't know if any card games actually have a system where you have actual control over your initial hands but that sounds like something i'd like.Thanks for replying anonGranblue Fantasy Versus: Rising
I hate H flipI hate U flipI hate Narmaya!
>>507689274Having played all popular (Western) TCGs:- Yugioh: you play your entire Deck turn 1. Your goal is to make your opponent not play at all in turn 2. If you do you win, otherwise you lose;- Pokémon: similar to Yugioh but it has absolutely 0 interactivity (although stun strategies and card exist too but very minor), both players get to play their entire deck during their turn 1. The one who gets the better combo wins;- Magic: would be the most balanced TCG but >>>>>>lands;- Hearthstone: unironically the most honest TCG because it doesn't pretend it's not an RNG garbage fiesta- Digimon&One Piece: unfortunately I haven't played them because I refuse to play games that don't have a digital version but they look decently fun, One Piece is probably the 3rd/4th most popular TCG right now. Digimon has the best energy system I've seen in a card game ever.Overall they're fun but too RNG reliant, hence why I will never take them seriously. At least here in fighting games you get 50/50s but as a reward for knocking you down or cornering you, not every fucking time
>>507688660Yeah well I knew nothing about tiers nor any of this thread's super epic memes at that time. The fwip response was too vague since it didn't describe any context nor any appropriate follow up moves (unlike >>507683247) so it felt 95% sarcastic and 5% honest advice to me when I tried to implement it and found myself constantly getting thrown/countered/BC'd out of my "fwip" attempts
>>507689889Do you still need help?I feel for that one anon who posted about getting into S++ in like 50 games as pre-nerf Beatrix and people shat on him because they thought he was shitposting
>>507690257>>507690257>>507690257you can go there if you want to... or not.
Vaseraga is also considered a fraud Warioware character here, yet that anon received all help.It's all about how you ask questions.
>>507690112I was gonna say that was probably me, but I could only get S+ with her pre-nerf, and it took me a lot more than 50 games.