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Last bread: >>507459093
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>>507577905
onion doko
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Zoi is pretty
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is Vira considered fraudulent?
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>>507578467
No. Her 214X is especially too honest for this fraud-ridden game.
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>>507578467
only if you get command grab'd in neutral
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>>507578693
i remember seeing viras doing the command grab in the middle of blocking lumi's attack
seems like they added this so she can command grab for free?
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>>507579172
you can't get grabbed while in blockstun, anon.
do you play the game?
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>>507579172
>i remember seeing viras doing the command grab in the middle of blocking lumi's attack
Not possible. People just aren't aware of how little blockstun Lumi causes.
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>for the first time in a long while feel like grinding ranked
>queue up
>5 minutes later
>80 ms guy
>fucking cancels on me
>3 minutes later no pop still
>boot up casual
>fight some s++ scrub
>win without satisfaction
>boot up ranked again
>game tries to match me with same one 130-140 ms guy
fuck this
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>>507580605
>130-140ms
perfectly playable
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Thanks for the midnight sets yesterday Grimnir anon, my gameplan is pretty simple but i hope you enjoyed the sets
>>507580605
i had a ping of 200+ with the anon i was playing with yesterday (i think he might be asian) but it felt fine-ish, i honestly don't notice a difference with a latency of 150 en below, but i'm also bad at videogames
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>>507581967
>perfectly playable
yeah, no lol
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Whorewives gang
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current status of the wobby?
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>>507583346
Quite wobbly.
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>>507583346
need EU friend to play with vas anon
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>>507583694
i'm a north american neet zoi
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>>507583801
you didn't have to specify you're a NEET
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>vas anon can already spotdodge bea slide on reaction
And what's your excuse?
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>>507584150
he did and hes valid
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>>507584190
I'm bad and old
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>>507584190
why would i spot dodge it when its always minus?
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>>507584190
I have trouble shidding lately...
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>>507584190
he has great teacher
which is me
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>>507584432
I genuinely hope he doesn't pick up your dog shit habits.
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>>507584432
you are dogshit and free to me though
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>>507584491
Beats reading whatever retarded shit the frog poster posts
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>>507584557
ft10
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Stinky... don't bounce checks your ass can't cash...
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Stinky... Sit on his face...
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I believe in my HERO of JUSTICE Stinky
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>>507584591
10-0 to me
next?
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At what time do you think we are hitting peak players in the lobby today?
We have to take a group picture
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>>507584915
.....
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>>507584915
>he doesnt know
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>>507584915
3-5 hours so we can exclude the euros
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>>507584915
Me on the left
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>>507573284
>>507584256
had a zoi moment
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who dat
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>>507585112
Dear Santa
I want a pig for Christmas
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>>507585242
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The only way Stinky can fraud off wins from anyone is because he lives on the Moon. There are also no showers there, so now you know why he is called that.
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>>507585530
Granblue seems to be pretty popular on the Moon
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>>507585530

>>507584948
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>200+ms
>5rf
>mirror match
time for some good ass granblue
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>>507585082
nigga do you realize both djeeta and Cagliostro are on the left
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>>507585645
?
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>>507585530
>BLABLABLABL-
Stinky won.
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>>507585112
Dear Santa
Please let the diarrhea stop
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...the worst player in the general competition
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>>507585770
me on the right
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>>507586024
no das me
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das gawdlike
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Anyone up for some bruise?
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>>>/v/698330510
stop shitposting on /v/ Nier doomposter
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>>507584432
And yet i'm still a failure
explain that
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>>507586857
>if you post a Nier picture you're the Nier doomposter
There are like 50 Nier posters here. Leave me alone.
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>>507586848
yes, in 10-20 mins
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If you post Zoi, you are a neet
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does Rat have any good MUs?
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>>507587209
Ok I will make the room around then
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Im not a neet thoughever
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>>507587263
i think she gets a couple even ones at best against the slower characters like ladiva
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If you post Charlotta, you wear a cock cage
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...and you suck at fighting games
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>>507587370
that's what a fake zoi would say
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my cock is 16 cm
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>>507587510
Erm excuse me, I am S++2 (and one crystal).
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>>507587263
probably only against Vira
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im now imagining a futa shartlotta
thanks guys
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I don't wear a cock cage either
but I do suck at fighting games
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Pneumatic penis addon
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you are strong, stinky
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>>507587828
I genuinely don't believe that any human has ever cleared this
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are zois incels too or just neets
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i liked zoi in vanilla more
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>>507588024
It is physically impossible for a Zoi to hate a living being, therefore they're just neets
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I've played so many belials that are "master" rank but they don't actually know how to play at all and just mash random shit and when it doesn't work they just lose like a day 1 player. It speaks volumes to how much his free gay plus frames carry him. The actual FUCK were they thinking with this faggot character? good god. Merry Christmas.
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you are weak, stinky
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you are stinky, weak
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>>507588105
you don't need to hate women to be an incel
and hating women doesn't make you an incel
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you make me an incel
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>>507588105
EUstace anon????
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>>507588459
Which one?
Default EUstace or Master EUstace?
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you spin me right round
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charlotta won
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>>507588528
the one whose country borders on france
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why doesn't luci glow red when he uses his H teleport?
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>>507589129
why would he glow red
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>>507587316
we going?
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>>507588683
Correct, how'd you figure though
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>>507589221
Room ID 866347
CHRISTMAS BRUISERS QUEUE UP
IT’S POPPING
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>posts zoi
>doesnt play zoi
disgusting
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True, you should post whores instead
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>>507589536
because you told me nigga, we have played and chatted multiple times in the lobby unless there are two eustaces who live in a country that borders on france
unless you are asking how I figured out it's you, in which I didn't, reason I asked. though I know you like that zoi in particular
how are you? you went missing...
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>>507589221
I’ve never done this before should I wait for 4 people or should I Start Matchmaking now?
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>>507589924
just start and if someone joins they can wait
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>>507589991
Ok, it actually popped once already which is why I was late posting the room number lol. Hopefully it pops again
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3/4
and it popped
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>>507589878
I simply have both shid to do and adapting to my new KB layout has been putting me off is all, fren, I'll come back in the lobby one day.
Also the very first character I picked when I started playing Rising was, in fact, Zoi.
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whore
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>>507590334
nyes that is my cock sleeve vikala
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>>507588024
nah, it's not that i struggle to get some game but being unemployed kind of icks them so when i tell them after a couple of dates they just pull the "i'm just looking for something casual at the moment" card and that's that
granblue fantasy versus rising
Versusia's mommy milkers
Vikala's rat tea
Anila's tasty mutton
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>>507589194
it's a H move?
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Daily missions... you won't clear your missions this way...
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>>507590334
afk shaming
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Reminder that kil could easily take every evo but being the generous chad he is chooses not to as to give other lesser players a chance
Remember that the next time one of you yurocucks hold up a trophy
Kil let you have it
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>>507590403
all of his specials are H specials, that's his gimmick
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plap karyl
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>>507590334
>>507590490
They're part of the reason bruise "pops", though.
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Kot is not for lewds
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>he didnt know the falling tech
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>>507590334
God forbid a rat do her dailies
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>>507590560
i'm retarded. he doesn't do it on any of his specials...
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>>507590984
I will "pop" something of Djeeta's if you know what I mean
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>>507591036
then why am I looking at kot porn right now
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>>507591125
Tou're 1543 men too late
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>>507591209
Because you are a sinner
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Name a player in this partyslop masher better than Kil
Go on, I'll wait.
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its not popping anymore
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>>507591243
>>507591291
>>507590984
join bruise
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ggs vasanon.
There's a few big things I noticed.
1. You're a bit too passive when you score a knockdown. Maybe you were worried about a reversal but generally you can continue your offense on oki.
2. It's important to learn your safe and unsafe moves. Also to know which of your moves are plus or minus. If you're plus, you can keep up your offense so you want to try and continue using moves that are plus. You should get into the habit of buffering a skill every time you press a button so you can cancel off that button and into the skill.
3. You seem to struggle against fireballs which is fair for Vas. I think the best thing you can do is armor up (5U) and then do his H walk. You can armor through the fireballs and possibly score a hit if you're far away with the low follow-up. You can also roll (cross-over) on reaction to most fireballs.
I don't think Granblue is as easy to learn for a first experience as people say. It's very fundies-oriented and learning a lot of the stuff in the game kinda relies on already having fighting game knowledge. Vas is definitely a character that would be hard for your first time. I'd recommend playing someone like Gran so you can get a strong foothold before playing a more difficult character. There's a lot to learn but I hope you can keep at it and have fun. Just remember to keep asking for advice and go into training mode to drill new concepts into your muscle memory.
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>>507591439
Yeah I'll give it another 10 minutes or so I guess
>>507589629
Still trying to get another game 866347
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>>507591446
Neigh
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>>507591446
I jyoined
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>>507591686
you're horse meat
>>507591758
good
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room is full so i'm queuing
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>>507591543
>66l spamming kusoge
>fundies orientated
lol
lmao
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Here's your season 2 guest character, bro.
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popped
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>mutts woke up
>bruise and season 2 posting
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>>507591997
it's 7pm in america
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Merry Christmas /gbvsg/!!!!!!
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bullied to death...
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It popped as I was trying to switch to Yunicorn
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>>507592185
I got bullied by the bubschuds...
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>>507592017
we are all neets here
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its time for the jyump
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outskilled
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corn won
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Milkers lost
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christmasyuniGODS
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>the 2 Bubs avatars literally just being annoying and nothing else
kek
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Christmas won
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>bruise pops
>i can hear my washing machine falling in the distance
goddamn it, i hope it'll pop again
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>13/13
Damn, we got a nice room going.
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Man. It's so criminal that this game isn't more popular. The sovl is off the charts.
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>>507593042
it didn't popped for me...
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I like how we've decided to bully red today.
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>>507593179
there's nothing soul about 66L, BC and fujoshi pandering
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>>507592753
they're naggers
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nigger
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>>507593304
But there IS something soul about bruise and lobby avatars
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>>507593304
fujoshi pandering is super soul
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>>507593362
you sound pretty transsexual
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do you not have the christmas color bbw?
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>>507593597
I just switched to it
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>>507593676
cool
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any second now
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>>507594143
not if you don't insult this game:

sloppity slop slop sluuurrrp blue shit in my ass I sure love Belial's offense
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Please queue up and shill in the lobby we can probably get one more pop
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>>507594198
kekypowie fr
god this game is garbage
if not for us nobody would play this shitty gamemode either
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>>507594198
where the pops at
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bubschuds are targeting me
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>>507594334
can't believe we actually have some opponents now
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>MMSSCCHLLRRPP
What did Albert Einstein mean by this?
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>>507591543
Ture, i need to go into training and figure out my moves better.
Thank you for the advice.
It was fun playing.
Im just not really sure what to do when knocking the opponent down, i usually just do the 3 hit combo or 66L or the grab skill. I really like the charge so i try to use it too.
Its hard playing against fireballs, especially when if you go forward and block few then get hit once you fly back almost the whole screen.
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outskiylled
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i think i accidentally sabotaged blue nier on the slime round
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Ok I'll wait a bit to see if we get one more pop and then I'll need to shut the room down
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>>507595327
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>>507595427
this is a photo of my backyard
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>>507595427
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can't kill the bruise
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That's the first time I see timeout eliminations in slime hunt.
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christmas yuni... you betrayed us...
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red team it is....
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>>507596441
I promise I didn't betray anyone on purpose I'm just incompetent
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>>507596580
he was talking about me...
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885683 new lobby since the last host left
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>>507595184
A knockdown is basically a moment where you're forced to block. The best thing you can do is a safejump/safejab so you can ensure the opponent gets hit if they do anything other than block. If they do block it, then you can keep them blocking since you're still plus. When you know that they're going to block then you can go for something like a grab, which Vas' command grabs are really good for.
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Have to go eat dinner with the family now. Thanks for bruising everyone.
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>>507596830
the new lobby popped! there are still only 2 of us
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>>507597226
HE WHO CONTROLS THE CORN CONTROLS THE BRUISE
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holy kek I wish I had recorded that Baha blast
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Yuni for season 2!
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Cumming inside lowain
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no
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>>507598196
mmmmmmm nyo
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does anyone want to have their christmas ruined by charlotta eu in the lobby
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I dont think i saw any Ladiva or Lucilius yet
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>>507598357
mmmmmmmmm nyou
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oh shit
an european ferry?!
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>>507598357
I really would like to but i need to go to bed.
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get fucked yggy you piece of shit
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still 2/4 and its still popping
885683
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NUKED
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>>507599078
>>507599192
it's ok ferry entertained me and died, but she got one game because I wanted to look cool countering her setups with charlotta's shield but I'm not exactly sure why it never worked
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>still 2/4 and its still popping
>885683
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>>507599925
you can be nice
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>>507599925
you can be mice
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>>507599925
You can eat mice
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>>507599925
you can slice ice
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>>507599925
Doth mustn't wander too far into Wonderland, Alice
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we are the ultimate duo
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>>507599925
you can play dice
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>>507599925
you can post five
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>>507601457
based
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>>507601457
Holy kek
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>>507601457
Imagine thinking this is funny.
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bubzchuds just cant stop losing
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>three in a row
where's my Super Vyrn badge
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>>507599925
cringe
>>507601457
hilarious
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>zoi was the one spamming bahamuts this whole time
holy plot twist
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are the bubschuds still bullying
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>>507602496
yep and losing every time kek
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LITERALLY unbeatable squad
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>>507602849
YUNIVERSE
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>>507601457
basado
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https://steamcommunity.com/id/vgsecretsanta/
Offer is still open from this morning. First person to send a friend request gets the Priconne avatar pack.
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>>507602849
what does she "scream" when attacking
she goes like "suuukiiii"
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https://youtu.be/DrLMPjdiB4U
now thats a good game
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im sorry blue niia
we love you
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>>507603061
>cag profile pic
ok i trust you
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>>507603061
The cogs trying to gather Steam IDs...
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WHY DIDNT YOU TARGET THE BELIALHOMO
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yunibros no...
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>>507603315
i deserve it for raging and taking the shitty path instead of trampoline
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the streak....
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>>507603530
Cog mixes up all the players on /gbvsg/ in one single person

Do we get a champion? And who do they main
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>>507603061
Gift has been claimed.
Merry Christmas everyone!
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>>507603968
Merry Christmas friend
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>Merp's only loss on his run to Masters is vs Metera
Can we PLEASE stop pretending this character is bad?
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>the homo duo got one random win and dipped
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>>507604601
THey did pic related but for Bruise
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one more yuni needed
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Why the fuck is the bruise queue so active today?Not that I'm complaining.
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>>507604967
what do you play on Christmas
extremely frustrating annoying fighting game or funny mario party christmas friendly game?
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>>507604398
Ok he just lost to an S++ Bea too so I guess he just sucks
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>>507604601
>they are back
make sure to attack the team with most of them in it if its bricks
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>>507605046
Fair enough. Also, planting a bomb on the spring was devious.
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NOOO
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I was having too much fun griefing the rat...
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yunibro why...
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you should be able to lose your master rank if you lose too much
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>>507603827
I’d say Charlotta represents /gbvsg/
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>>507605645
mmmmmm nyo
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me on the right
bubzchuds on the left
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>>507605645
>this creature represents /gbvsg/
Does she really?
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>>507605160
Let's go to his green cab and tell him to KILL HIMSELF together!
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>>507605803
That’s not very holly jolly of you
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>>507605720
Part 5 was absurdly violent for no fucking reason

The dude (Gelato?) that had the make-people-mold Stand was fucking creepy as fuck
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>>507605754
it doesn't
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>>507605582
I think even fewer people would play in Master rank if they had to deal with the stress of deranking. But also because you can never lose it, it naturally makes Master less prestigious over time and it causes the lower ranks to get pretty empty.
Strive honestly had a good idea with the monthly celestial reset. It gives people an incentive to keep coming back to the game and it makes it impossible to just sit on your celestial rank and hold it.
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4 yunis
bruise gods assemble
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>Christmas night
>Game wants me to do 2 stages in granbruise
Oh my fucking god
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>>507606168
It should have been 5 stages instead
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>>507606213
I booted the game to play some matches not do this stoopid fuggn gay mode
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>>507606314
you are not welcome here
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>>507606379
The longest I've gone without getting a match is 5 hours, I don't mind the game mode but the wait times for a daily is insane
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total bubschud defeat
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>>507606478
we had like 20 matches back to back today and they are not stopping
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How the fuck do you get 5k points on the kill the slimes thing I can’t break 3k
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>>507606602
When the giant one spawns in the middle, just hit that while being careful of the shockwaves and other players
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>>507606602
wait for the gold ones to come by
you'll qualify very quickly
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BUBS HAS BEEN DEFEATED
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one of ours wins = we all win
as long as its not the homos
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>>507605980
Strive's celestial reset makes playing 'ranked' a lot worse. Every month, celestials flood floor 10 so anyone that's legitimately floor 10 become free food for the challenge-getters. That game is also way too volatile for how it works and if you ever lose it, you go back to floor 10 to pound scrubs until you get back in.
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>>507605980
They should just remove ranks and put in ELO instead
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>>507606926
Yeah Strive isn’t the best if you just want to match with people exactly at your skill level. But neither is Rising. Master queue could match you with someone who just got promoted or it could match you with Kojicoco.
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did i jinx it
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>>507606602
>>507606687
To add to this, shield items will spawn periodically. If you see one, grab it and save it for when the boss spawns, then pop the shield and go into the boss for an automatic 6k points.
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YOU.


RETARDS.
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no Yuni left behind
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I was in another queue with the bubschuds. they won stage 1 but left.
They're after you corns
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i have never played bruise/fall guys before. can i just join next time or do I need to read a wiki to know how to hold myself
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>>507607924
I placed 2nd in my first ever bruise, you'll be fine unless you're in the bullied gold brick team.
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>>507607924
just join the queue
make sure you put region as NA
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>>507607924
It’s very self explanatory, just join the queue
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>>507607924
Before you join make sure to have crossplay on and set the bruise region to NA (unless it’s specified to be another region)
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>>507607126
That would require Cygames having an inkling of a clue of what to do
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pls stop losing in the first stage
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????
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IT WAS A FUCKING TIE
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Pretty sure that Niia is one of ours
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das rite niers own bruise
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Pretty sure this Niia is one of ours
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my first one ever
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Pretty sure this Niia is one of ours
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Meet your season 2 cast
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>>507609286
that was your first?
good work, anon.
i'm proud
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>>507609230
Me as well. I'm the lone F2P faggot in the room.
>>507609286
Told you, anon. That was a fun fight.
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-1 chud
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total yuni victory
blue niia behave
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Damn, I forgot to press, my bad. Fuck.
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>>507610540
Your checkmark went black again
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oops
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>>507610597
What the fuck is going on.
I was tabbed out.
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I'm sure it'll pop in a couple minutes. Bubsfags probably are in the game.
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when are we playing the side fighting minigame
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Merry Christmas, /gbvsg/
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Can't believe bruise has been popping for more than 3 hours already, if only it was always like this.
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>>507611309
ferry is for vanilla
she is not metera
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anon you risked your life for me
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Well at least I made it to stage 3 this time
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>>507611309
thank you
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thanks for running interference for me
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Neechang didn’t make it…
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we HATE neechang here
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are you guys still bruising?
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>>507612626
nyes
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>>507612626
indeed
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>>507612626
It’s popping constantly
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lmao
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lmao
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ggs fellas
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>>507613428
thank you
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>>507611309
Funny how this lasts longer than when I posted that image of those chink v-troons who got doxxed by their own government.
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>>507613239
thyanks for joining
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this stage is new
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It broke...
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bros I got booted to the main menu
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>>507613601
The Void…
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Welp, I guess that's the sign. A very long and fruitful session of bruise so can't even complain.
Thanks for playing and joining everyone. Lots of fun.
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>>507609332
Wife
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It's lobby time, Risingtons.
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>>507609332
>>507613901
QRD?
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bruise is popping the fuck off
I got into a lobby instantly with only one gbvsger
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>>507614532
We've been at it for 4 hours now, It's never popped this hard before.
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>>507614621
do you guys have a room up?
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>>507614474
Not a hyper important character. In GBF she's a raid boss turned playable unit.
An environmentalist primal that punished humans for years for ruining the environment, but questioned if punishment is what was needed. She's been woefully under explored in character, but her single plot beats are about (You) melting her frozen heart and teaching her to care for both nature and humanity alike and just like others, she becomes Danchousexual.
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>>507616003
Thanks
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https://x.com/granblue_en/status/1872082166110363948
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evil zoi bully me...
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>>507616450
SEX
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
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join the lobby bros
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>>507616003
>>507609332
>>507613901
She looks like female Grimnir.
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>>507616983
sex
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Come to the lobby, we are going to take the official Christmas group pic
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>>507617295
Gimme a minute I’m coming
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I’m coming to clarisse pits
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Who else is coming for the picture
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>>507618359
hol up
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Should probably give it several minutes
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the yuni keeps farting
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STOP DOING THAT PLEASE
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>>>>>froglord
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Love you guys. Merry Christmas.
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>>507619605
THE NAMES IN CHAT YOU BRAINLET
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>>507619605
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH QUICKLY I MUST INSTALL NORTON
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>>507619647
>editing
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>>507619605
i am indeed quite dumb
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>>507619605
>my name’s not in the chat
I’M SAFE
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i was playing this game with a friend and he kept kicking my ass, how am i supposed to punish impact knuckle from soriz as ferry ?
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>>507620375
spinning ball kino
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wait for me aiee
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>>507592051
merry christmas
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>>507613540
When you posted the what, now?
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great photo sesh
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>can endlessly cancel specials into normals into specials and then use a halfscreen advancing disjointed heavy as both anti air and crush any buttons
why do we tolerate uniggers again?
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>>507620458
You use your very long normals to hit him before he gets into range for impact knuckle, or while he is in the middle of the move. That’s what zoners are supposed to do. You keep people from making contact with you in the first place.
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>>507620458
if he does ultimate impact knuckle you should spotdodge
should give you enough time to punish with something fast like a light button or throw?
You should spotdodge M version, I don't remember if you get a punish
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>>507621309
ferry is a 50/50 rushdown casino character though
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>>507616450
need zoujosama
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>>507619605
>13 in lobby
>12 in pic
Who's hiding?
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>>507621601
anon your cag sled?
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>>507620458
Also I'll add that Soriz will try to mix in 66H approaches as well, which has armor. It loses to lows though so 2M and 2U should probably be good at stopping him
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>>507621601
me, finalizing the dox list right now check back in about 15 mins
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Hikki dwagon wife for season 2 puriis
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have the 12 person edition as well
good night, all
merry christmas
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>>507621728
The free sex alt
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>>507621728
why is she covered in fart clouds
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The only people in the S++ queue right now are a Beelzebub, a Vira, and a Grimnir. They all play like madmen and I'm actually exhausted. My sheep can't take this.
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>>507622294
She knows I like the smell
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>>507621728
whos that in the background
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>>507621647
Oh, she blended in so well that I didn't even notice.
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Cagliostro and Djeeta, sitting on a tree...
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>>507621309
just what i feared the "don't let him near you"
>>507621412
yeah i've been trying to punish stuff with spotdodge but i can't get the timings right, also he usually does impact knuckle after i block a kick so i can't spotdodge
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>>507622439
Her shikigami familiar, she has many of them to do her work and housekeeping
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>>507621859
Good night anon
Merry Christmas
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>>507622913
>just what i feared
I mean, that's kind of fighting games 101. You want to position yourself so that you maximize your ability to hit the opponent while minimizing their ability to hit you. It's called spacing.
But it's ESPECIALLY what zoners want to do because that's what their whole gameplan revolves around. They have very long range so it's easy for them to strike at the opponent at ranges where the opponent can't strike back. By design, zoners have weak defense once the opponent actually does get in their face at close range.
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>>507622913
>he usually does impact knuckle after i block a kick so i can't spotdodge
If you mean his specials roundhouse fang then all versions of those are minus on block. If you block those it’s your turn to start attacking or those moves are even punishable. He has to take a huge risk to steal his turn back after doing it
If by kicks you mean he’s cancelling them off normals then you can still spotdodge them. Pretty sure you can spotdodge during a blockstring
Also if Soriz does light, heavy or ultimate impact knuckle he’s - on block. It’s your turn. It’s not a punish but it’s still fine
M knuckle is the only + on block version, and it’s very slow and it’s only +1

If you’re still confused then consider posting a replay so we can help further
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>>507621020
I'm glad you guys like this frog. I need to do some others.
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I love you guys.
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i just got demolished by a pink square D3 sharlotta in the asia lobby
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>>507623565
gay love you too bro
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>>507623424
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>>507623621
why'd you leave us
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>>507622913
if youre going to consistently try to spotdodge the knuckles you will want to lab the normal versions because god knows soriz can be plus on spotdodge and get a full combo in your asshole.
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i took this one a little before blue nier arrived, Yuni kept photobombing herself
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if only we had a gm ferry to help him
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>>507624227
if only we had two of them
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>>507621728
it seems people really like this neet
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>>507624283
I thought there was only 1
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also green nier-chan-san i hope you enjoyed the sets, my gameplay is very basic so i hope it didn't got boring, i tried to send more messages but the game filter is lame
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>>507623118
that attendant better be female
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can't spell out skilled without kil
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will it kil?
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>>507624454
theyre both gm in my heart i thought they were atleast
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Every evo from now on, Jappa-Yurocucks
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>>507625232
I do not know who this person is.
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>>507624940
I have only seen 1 ferry in lobbies so I don’t know either
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>>507625232
are you shilling yourself anon?
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>>507625232
from tako to... that.
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>>507625295
>Doesn't know of the greatest player ever to play this game
>The one
>The only
>The King™
educate yourself, brainlet.
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>>507625417
*fyart*
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>>507577905
New F2P lineup
https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1872115367272673670
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>>507625389
??? the fuck did I do
wasn't even me this time
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kilvenz claim to fame is stealing the term "caggot" from someone else
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>>507626285
incredible
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>>507624579
They are paper
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YUROS SHART THEIR PANTS AT THE MERE THOUGHT OF HIM
JAPPAS GET SLICED INTO SASHIMI
WHO IS HE?
DAS RIGHT
IT'S THE GAWD AMONG NAGAWDS
CAN'T SPELL SKILL WITHOUT KIL
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>>507626704
skyll bros?
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i coined the terms sigger and vigger
many people use them wrong thoughever.
The characters name must start with _i
i.e nigger
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>>507623395
>Soriz has to take a huge risk to steal his turn back
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Lobby status?
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>>507627117
just throw him or RPS with the armor bro… it’s all good
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>>507626285
>caggot
That's not mice...
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>>507627117
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>>507627228
>just throw him bro
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i coined the terms cagliostroon, troonB, metrana, etc.
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>>507627371
have you ever played against a soriz before
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>>507627371
just whiff punish or crush it…
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>>507627627
>Just crush it bro
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>>507627924

>>507627589
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>>507627924
are you the anon who thought vira could throw you in lumi?
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>>507627924
just punish his kick on whiff/block bro
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>>507627989
have you?
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>>507628110
you should try him out in training mode for a minute before making posts that makes it obvious you haven't even played against him once
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>>507628092
good idea
with what
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>CHESTOOOO
>SEISEISEISEIIIII
>OI NEECHAN, SHOW ME YOUR TITS AND MAKE ME A SANDWICH
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>>507628271
>t. downplaying fucktard
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>>507628309
I know you’re trolling but you can just take your turn back on the kick
>>507628461
based
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63% winrate in masters btw
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>>507628554
anon, just boot up training mode
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>>507628570
>>507627117
it's like you don't get the point
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>just guess right retard
>says the gbvsg shitbirds who whine every thread about being gatekept from their rightful masters even after fkhrt's welfare update
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>>507628694
if you keep losing the RPS off of that move on block then I don’t know what to tell you
>>507628824
fighting games are literally all about informed guessing
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>>507628110
just zone him literally throw a fireball and you autowin like damn bro
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>>507628606
>quoting master statistics
as if gbvsg would know this
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>>507624504
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9 out of 10 posts berating someone else for their skill don't play at Master level
Several of them literally don't play the game at all. At any level.
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>>507628606
none of these faggots here had to play skyrll on soriz
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>>507629701
nice falseflag attempt Viraschizo (S)hitter
Only a true (S)hitter would have such a complex about their rank
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Found one of them.
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S ranks and below shouldn't post in gbvsg
who's with me
>BUT WHAT ABOUT-
shut the fuck up did I say I was finished?
Stinky is exempted.
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>>507630276
b rank and below bros... why does stinky get the only exemption
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>>507630448
>he didn't e-celeb hard enough to get special treatment
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>>507630834
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Stinky gets away with everything...
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I like big girls
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i like medium girls
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>>507630945
good for you
>>507631220
good for you
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he has pink square so it's okay
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>>507631303
yggy is everyone‘s girl
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>taking ranked seriously in granpoop sharting

nobody does this
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I like draph girls
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I like this kind of girl
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>>507621412
>You should spotdodge M version
You should punch Soriz when he does that since he only gets a hitbox when he's on top of you. Unless you perfectly time your dodge he's still plus and can punish it.
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Ggs anons and Merry Christmas to everyone. 13 people in the lobby was cool to see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddk6pGwXBIc
Does anyone have tips for the Katalina matchup? I'm not sure if I can confidently try to counterpoke that f.M on reaction.
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Golshi TO will come back... right?
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>>507635805
HE LEFT? I JUST ASSUMED HE'S ONE OF THE LOBBY REGULARS
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>>507635929
Pretty sure he said next tournament was in January. He needs time to make the Golden Golshi's let him rest...
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I was gonna have another lonely Christmas but I got to have a lot of fun playing Bruise instead and took part in another lobby photo. GGs Bruiseanons. GGs lobbyanons. I love /gbvsg/. You are great!
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https://youtu.be/T8r-ZQLpDhA?t=96

THE STEALER STATUS: STOLEN
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>>507636120
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>>507636120
ougi
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Christmas is... over...
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>>507636120
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>>507636501
Works on my machine
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>>507635684
gave it a quick watch but Kat was using a lot of preemptive pokes to keep you out. Your approaches felt pretty linear
>not sure if I can confidently try to counterpoke that f.M on reaction
I assume you mean whiff punish? It’s difficult but if you recognize when she wants to do it it should be doable with a normal, maybe even 236U? You can also low profile it but unsure if Soriz 2U has the range.
I think you probably could have bullied your way in with 66H or a jump when she constantly poked you out
And I feel like using 236U on her fireballs would be good. You tended to use 236U when Katalina was playing passive and they got blocked
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Desu... I've been drinking for 3 days straight...
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>>507638520
That's a lot of eggnog...
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>>507638520
Only 3...?
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>>507638618
'tis the season...
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>>507636501
Christmas is never over
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>>507638738
H-How long have you been drinking...
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ggs vane, eustace and cag anons. merry christmas.
i swear im not dodging you nier anon
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>>507638819
Christmas is over when we SAY it's over.
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>>507586865
I'm not your teacher
you're my toy
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>>507584432
Why is her crown so bendy...?
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>>507639868
flesh is quite malleable
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I'm simultaneously autistic, sentimental, and buzzed, so I spent some time editing the lobby pic. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a better template with easy to magic wand alpha channels and I wasn't going to keep editing for too long. It's still technically Christmas for 15 minutes.
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>>507640123
its beautiful and also fuck i missed it
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>>507640123
wtf I missed it
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>>507638996
I can't answer that
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>>507640123
Cute!
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>>507640123
I'm going to look back at this when I'm alone in my retirement home at age 83
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>>507638996
nta but ive been working on liver failure for 16 months now
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>>507640123
Why is yellow kot on both group photos
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>>507640123
Holy SOUL. Thank you anon I will unironically cherish this
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>>507640891
I didn't see the EU photo or I would have hacked them in.
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>>507640123
I have absolutely zero doubt we had the best Christmas in /vg/
I wonder how ggg is doing
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>>507641127
next year we should organize a christmas orgy
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thats pathetic
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>>507641447
>he wasnt invited again
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>>507639752
>says the public cumdump
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It's funny there are more and more Eustaces and Unos ever since they got overtuned I mean fairly buffed
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>>507641832
no way dude im totally just playing uno because hes uh.. really uh... cool... yeah... definitely
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>>507641832
they are just letting the wolf inside them out
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>Uno is... le top tier! xD
Somehow even dumber than the guy trying to force the "Siegfried is mid-tier" meme.
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>>507642031
I feel publicly called out since I have wrote both of those statements
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>>507642031
go on, give me 3 weaknesses that uno has
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I swear to god I'm only around when everyones gone
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>>507642098
hes male
hes a manlet
he cant even grow a proper beard
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>>507638520
herro nipponese here
What is eggnog
What does it taste like
Is it good
Never had it before
Sankyuu you gaijin for your time arimasu
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>>507642098
he is shorter than 5'10" so he is worthless.
two more? just reread the first line 2 more times
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>>507642098
1. ugly
2. pringles facial hair
3. nobody likes him
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>>507642098
he lost the genetic lottery and his bloodline will end with him
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>>507642031
Nyes that's right, Sieg has the slowest back dash and had no presence at CEOtaku.
>thrusts hips at you
Come on, cup my balls. Do it.
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>uno has one unsafe move that pushes him out of range of 99% of the cast to be punished
>can high profile moves with a safe on block far heavy

issa low tier
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>>507642098
I just saw a fucking actual midget female say she likes tall men
being a manlet is the worst curse
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>>507642098
Slow movement speed
No DP
Very slow buttons aside from f.L
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>>507642437
>requires a stool to even get a blowjob
damn
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>>507642437
lunalu is a cute
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>>507642493
>no DP
he has something better, a safe on whiff parry, and a punish if they try to punish you for whiffing

>slow movement speed
he has ice car

>very slow buttons
they hit half the screen and are all safe.
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ISSA LOW TIER
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>>507642098
No damage
Ass strike/throw
Loses to Rat
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>somebody bought me a gift I wasn't expecting
>don't know what to give back
help
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>>507643093
touhou luna nights
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>>507643034
oh thank god hes only a 2 touch character instead of a 2 touch character
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>>507643093
>social interaction
just kill me desu
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>>507643161
that might be a decent idea for another buddy. this one doesn't like weeb shit as much though
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>>507642237
I'm not sure I believe either of those things Anon... but in the very off chance you are being serious, it's kind of like... drinking ice cream?
Like an alcoholic vanilla ice cream with cinnamon and other spices?
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>>507643161
actually really fun. a shame its so short.
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>>507643093
You fool, you have to set your wish list on private to avoid stuff like that!
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>>507643429
I have now learned...
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>>507643192
>Training mode combo
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>>507643698
>close heavies never happen
>parrying moves never happens
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>>507642098
>harvin
>male harvin
>male harvin for eternity
I would be cosmically crushed by the sheer existential dread myself
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>>507643093
just thank him nigga lol
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>niggers really try to downplay a character that has every single tool in the game
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is his almost instant overhead skill reactable at all?
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>>507643996
do female harvins like male harvins at least?
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>>507644132
You mean the EX throwbait? I think it's as reactable as Narmaya's EX flip, so no, and you eat a full grounded combo instead of just getting launched.
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>>507644284
not the EX version, but the TK H version
osakanasan kept using it and it worked every time
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>some dumb nigga says low damage exists in sharting
thats how you know they haven't played the game
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>>507642237
Thine but lactose intolerant thus the pursuit of the mythical westerner eggnog is but futile for thou
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Cagliostro is the prettiest girl in the world
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>>507645634
that's an old man
the perspective is supremely fucked
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swish
You there, human. How many times do I have to tell you that the all female Harvin village is off limits?
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>>507645727
>the perspective is supremely fucked
holy fuck it really is
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Oh no! Charlotta Fenia (24) captain of the holy knights is in trouble!
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>>507645998
I'm just going to make my own all female Harvin village then
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>>507646303
>draphs
deport them immediately
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>>507646250
why is clarisse being a whore on christmas
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>>507646398
>not taking good care of tourists
You'd make a shitty village head
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>>507646303
>>507646560
>on a certain island, draph fall from the sky
killer name
second only to
>maybe fucking kids is wrong...?
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>>507646626
What the fuck that name goes hard lmao
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>>507646474
She wants Danchou's seed
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>>507643161
Thank you for the help anon
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>>507646657
She should get in line
I also regret googling "I need cock gran" while looking for this image
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sex with cag
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In hindsight I can understand what happened but in the middle of the match with a billion glowing sparkles, lmao
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>>507647480
actually scrap that what the fuck happened there anyway
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>>507647480
What the hell? Does soriz still get his 236U armor frames off clash?
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>>507647845
He didnt mash instantly so he kept the properties of the move. Althoughbeit it was probably just a late reaction on his end.
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I need draphs to be real
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>>507647981
Okay that makes more sense. still what a cursed interaction
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>>507647480
is this the biggest scam of all time
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>>507648007
IMAGINE...
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>>507648179
I'm going to cry
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Narmaya would be infinitely better with a cock
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>>507647110
Lol, Golden Knight(Alliah) also ends up wanting danchou's cock, and opening bakery later after leaving an heir
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>>507642460
>I just saw a fucking actual midget female say she likes tall men
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>>507648179
breasts too big
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Anila's bulging balls...
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https://youtu.be/ZPOaqbNNhbA
lol its a scamdown
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>>507648941
manletbros it’s so fucking over…
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>>507648997
Begone
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>>507648997
Yours is too small
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Cow for season 2
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>>507649947
moohoohoo
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>>507649947
I'm sorry cow but it must be pig
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>>507650074
why not both
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>>507649947
Cow is a sweetheart and her voice is adorable. Hope she makes it in with one other divine general
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>>507650214
We're not getting two divine generals in season two
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>>507650392
that’s too bad then
hope you guys like monkey
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season is literally 6 divine generals
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>>507650545
+ sandal + raziel
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>>507650484
I do
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>>507650856
do you like her for any reason besides pedophiliac tendencies
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>>507651331
not him but you’re annoying as hell
most people like characters for all sorts of superficial reasons anyways and that includes personality
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>>507651331
She's cute, she could make for a genuinely fun and cancer trickster-type character in Rising and she carried my ass for a while in the gacha.
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monki
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It will be pig and that is final
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>>507651845
piggu is good too
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>>507651845
Cow has a bike, checkmate
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the problem is that all divine generals are great
while they give us vane and uno
i think the one i like the least is tigers
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Here's your Monkey, bro
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>>507652164
that monkey is a little overgrown
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>>507640123
Dude, this is amazing. Thank you.
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Okay fine, FINE.
Anyone wanna tell me why I suck at Zoi?
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>>507652890
you’re not NEETing hard enough
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>>507652890
Well I need to see a replay first.
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>>507647480
excellent overlay
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>>507653259
Thanks
Could probably do better job with it, it got kinda stretched because the original images were too big, but here it is if you want it
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>>507652931
>>507653042
I'll fuck anyone who thinks they stand a chance, just host!
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>>507653818
You meant to say "fuck up" right?
Right?
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>>507653818
I’m too busy being a lazy NEET in bed to host
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did someone say NEET?
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>>507654705
Holy...
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>>507654705
I prefer this one
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>>507654705
those tits look hard to carry. I know a guy who can take care of that
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>>507654774
jeanne dork
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Is Sheep anon around?
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>>507655535
in 2 hours.
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MY COCK

DEMANDS

A SACRIFICE

HOST
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>>507655872
this doesnt look safe for work, anon :(
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>>507655937
it's okay it's censored
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you should consider masturbate before posting
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>>507655872
the rising advertisers are going to freak
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>>507656252
Rising has advertisers?
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>>507655872
holy sexo
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why is there no wholesome neechang art, it's always horny neechang...
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>>507655872
take your vacation like a champ and post more Draphs please
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>>507656520
wym there's a lot of that
id argue there's more cutesychang than pornchang
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>>507656551
Ehh?
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>>507656338
It did. In stadiums with MLB games. I am not joking.
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I WILL
CONTINUE
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draphs mog so hard
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Where is...

Sheep anon...
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Humanity would be doomed if draphs existed
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>>507659067
WHERE IS SHEEP ANON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>507659206
lips too big, 2/10
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>>507659274
t. tiny dick
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>>507659274
Well I just wanna fight Sheep anon. I get y'all are mad good, super good! Too good for me. So let y'all hang out and be the strongest.
HOWEVER.
I wanna fight Sheep anon. Little fag that he is....
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Thread dying wake up silly Europeans Christmas is over
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Thank g*d its over
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>>507661567
Which is why we're either at work or getting ready to go to work.
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WHY DOES LUCIFER TRANSCENDENCE EAT SO MUCH SAND? AAAAAAA
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>>507662751
>not having enough sand to uncap Luci, Baha and all the evokers
>posting in the wrong thread
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it's fine bwo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF7eJacQ-ig
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Happy Boxing Day!
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Consider this Zoi
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>>507663890
SHEEP ANON
I RESENT YOU....
no wait
I DESIRE YOU
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STYOP CHANGING NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
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Mnyo
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>>507663151
wow rat really looks low tier
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>>507664089
>sheep anon
Anon I just wanted to post Zoi don't make this weird
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>>507664940
IT IS YOU
*Sheeerrrrrrre*
Shearing yourself!
IT IS TIME!
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>>507664382
you can't say that
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SHEEP ANON
YOOL ANON
WHORE THAT YOU ARE!!!
We stand, at the precipice.
Cause I find you so fun to fight!
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To be honest I'm waiting for the One Piece game to completely demolish everything else BUT UNTIL THEN
STAND AGAINST ME
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zamn he went from morning raggertroon to this?
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Ragger fags be like:
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>>507665962
That's not me though?
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>a charlotta called waffle
>now a charlotta called apple
what's with charlottas and food?
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>>507666457
theres also a charlotta called carrot iirc
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>>507667347
So, do you just get your tranny hole torn apart by Pot and then come here to cry about it?
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>>507667347
based pot demolishing another tranny
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>>507667497
potemkin is indian so he can't be based however
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>>507667576
whatever you say, tranny
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>>507667813
bloody basterd bitch do not redeem pootemkin's command grab saaars
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hm
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I hope Vas anon sticks around and becomes an integrated, productive member of our community.
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>>507667347
I wish Rising would be a low damage three-touch game like Strive
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>>507668714
belial is a 3 touch character
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>>507668286
he already played in lobby he’s cooler than 90% of the thread
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>>507668286
i.e. plays bruise all day
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>>507668714
https://youtu.be/Qv62xKfmI-E?si=W0cXG7ohKrblURYU
How many touches were in this round?
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soon
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I need some help.
Am i understanding this correctly:
Startup frames - how long it takes to hit my opponent
Active frames - how long the attack can hit my opponent
Recovery frames - how long until i can move after an attack
Total frames - all of the 3 above combined
First active frame - first Active frame of an attack
?
Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?
Why is there more than 1 Active frame?
Im not sure i quite understand why/when i would use 2H or my grab skill to hit enemies in the air? The grab skill does a bit more damage but throws my enemy far away. When i use 2H i can land more hits so the damage from grab skill isnt that big of a difference?
In addition to that, my grab skill throws the opponent very far away, why is that? Isnt Vaseraga a character made to be very close to the opponent? Should i not use it and Throw instead so they stay a bit closer to me?
I watched some video about grapplers (i think Vaseraga is one?) and people say to spam the grab moves often, but isnt that annoying to my enemy? Videos say that once you spam the grab moves the enemy will be scared when youre close to them and try to jump away or use the invincible move and i can land a combo if i predict that.
Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7. I think the same happens with my charge skill.
I will post a bit more soon but need try try some stuff in Training first.
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>>507664245
WHO DO YOU MEAN
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>>507670193
>isnt that annoying to my enemy?
I don:t have the time to answer to the rest of your post right now but doing stuff that's annoying for your opponent is the essence pretty much every competitive game.
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>>507669783
wtf wavie is still alive?
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>>507670193
don't grab at all, it's bm. trust me. you WILL be blocked.
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>>507670704
this is a perfect horse
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>>507670774
why are you like this
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>>507670193
>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7.
because of the active frames. 66L has 3. so depending on how late you hit your opponent on those active frames, you recover faster and can be up to +8 on hit.
active frames make it easier to hit your opponent or punish their moves.
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>>507670193
>but isnt that annoying to my enemy?
do you want to win or not? fuck them. grapplers are supposed to grab.
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>>507670864
kill all grappas
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>>507665093
>>507659206
bimbokino
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>>507670193
>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?
because it wouldnt make sense otherwise. how are you going to be plus on whiff?
>Why is there more than 1 Active frame?
lingering hitbox. makes it easier to meaty and such
>why does my grab send them far away
i dont play Vas, but i assume its for when you want to send them to the corner, or maybe it allows for better oki in the corner
>I watched some video about grapplers (i think Vaseraga is one?) and people say to spam the grab moves often, but isnt that annoying to my enemy? Videos say that once you spam the grab moves the enemy will be scared when youre close to them and try to jump away or use the invincible move and i can land a combo if i predict that.
Grapplers are all about 50/50s and RPS. you condition your opponent to block so you can mix up them to death (you cant tech command grabs). When they get scared, they start jumping (you cant be grabbed during pre-jump frames), and if you predict it then you get big damage. Also its SUPPOSED to be annoying, people have a hate boner for grapplers for a reason
>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)?
it differs depending on what frame of the active frame you hit them with. When your active frame hits them, thats when their blockstun starts, so if you hit them with the last possible active frame, their blockstun is going to start later, leading to you having more advantage.
its why you do jump-in attacks close to the ground, because landing auto-cancels the attack
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>>507670193
>Startup frames - how long it takes to hit my opponent
>Active frames - how long the attack can hit my opponent
>Recovery frames - how long until i can move after an attack
>Total frames - all of the 3 above combined
>First active frame - first Active frame of an attack
Correct.
>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?
It usually depends on how big of a reward an attack has. Light attacks are the fastest and are used to interrupt opponent's pressure the most, so they lead to little damage and are hard to punish on whiff. Heavies are usually the longest reaching buttons out of the 3 (light medium heavy) so they have the longest start ups and take the most to recover on whiff.
>Im not sure i quite understand why/when i would use 2H or my grab skill to hit enemies in the air?
Anti-air grab is much faster than 2H (9 vs 13 frames) and builds more meter, which is vital for Vas. Throwing an opponent fullscreen gives you enough time to apply your 5U which is important. And yeah, in some match-ups where it's hard for Vas to get in that can be a negative. Like for example, against someone like Metera who zones you 99% of the match and you would be lucky to get in 3 times a round you might want to not throw her where she gets to continue zone you, even if you get to have the buff.
Also if midscreen 2H doesn't counter hit, Vas usually needs to spend a resource to extend an anti air combo. However getting a COUNTER HIT 2H is usually better than his anti air grab, so there are some things to consider there as well.
>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7. I think the same happens with my charge skill.
Because (like you yourself said) moves have many active frames, you can space out some moves to hit the opponent at their later or last frames which will make an otherwise +0 or minus move, plus. Like Vas' tackle.
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>>507670193
>Startup frames - how long it takes to hit my opponent
It's the number of frames before the move's hitbox appears on screen and becomes active. So "how long it takes to hit my opponent" isn't quite right. The move might never hit at all (if you're out of range for example), or it might first hit the opponent late into the active frames (the hitbox of an attack can move around during the active frames for example, i.e. a downward sword strike where the sword starts above your head and moves downwards so the hitbox moves down with the sword).
>Active frames - how long the attack can hit my opponent
It's how long the attack's hitbox is active on the screen. So basically yes.
>Recovery frames - how long until i can move after an attack
Yes
>Total frames - all of the 3 above combined
Yes
>First active frame - first Active frame of an attack
>?
Yes
>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?
Not really sure what you're talking about here, can you give an example?
>Why is there more than 1 Active frame?
There's a few different reasons, probably the most basic one is that if you want to properly animate e.g. a kick or a sword slash attack, your character's leg or sword has to be extended for more than one frame and "hang" there for several frames, so it makes sense for the hitbox of the move to stay active for multiple frames as well. Things like meaties would also be extremely difficult to time if moves were only active for one frame.
>Im not sure i quite understand why/when i would use 2H or my grab skill to hit enemies in the air? The grab skill does a bit more damage but throws my enemy far away. When i use 2H i can land more hits so the damage from grab skill isnt that big of a difference?
2H is the most common antiair. Air throws are very situational, they're occasionally useful when the opponent is jumping at an awkward place that your 2H can't cover.
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>>507670193
>Why do attacks need to have different frames when hitting, getting blocked and missing?
Frame (dis)advantage on hit, on block and on whiff basically define the risk of an attack. It's defined by the differential between your attack's total frame count and the hit/block stun inflicted by that move. Also, attacks with long startup might be reactable or get stuffed by quicker moves, long recovery make you punishable and give an opportunity to your opponent. However, they migh give you higher damages or enable powerful combos. In fact, some attacks can only be linked depending on your frame advantage, exactly because some moves give you more frame on hit, or they have a quicker startup.
It was historically just a direct retranscription of how animation works, but it quickly became one way to balance character.
Some attacks have a higher count of active frames. This allows you to hit "meaty", which means hitting with the additional active frames instead of the first. When you hit an opponent, the hit stun is always the same amount, starting from the active frame you hit them with. In other words, hitting your opponent later gives you more frame advantage.

There is a mod that indicates all that visually quite clearly.
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>>507670193
>In addition to that, my grab skill throws the opponent very far away, why is that? Isnt Vaseraga a character made to be very close to the opponent? Should i not use it and Throw instead so they stay a bit closer to me?
I don't want to get too deep into Vas-specific advice since I'm not a Vas expert, but different types of throws have different properties in order to balance them out (e.g. a command throw might be untechable, but in exchange, it gives you a weaker oki situation than a normal throw).
For Vas, if you throw the opponent far away, it's an opportunity to set up Soul Forge.
>I watched some video about grapplers (i think Vaseraga is one?)
Vaseraga is not a grappler, but he is a bigbody, which is very similar (large slow characters that typically have high HP, high damage output, and weaker defensive tools).
> and people say to spam the grab moves often, but isnt that annoying to my enemy?
Being annoying is a good thing. You want to frustrate the opponent and make them more likely to make mistakes. You're here to win not to make the other guy feel good. The mental game is a huge part of fighting games.
> Videos say that once you spam the grab moves the enemy will be scared when youre close to them and try to jump away or use the invincible move and i can land a combo if i predict that.
Yes
>Why do some of my attacks have different value of Advantage (plus?)? For example, when i hit my 66L it sometimes is +6 and sometimes +8 or +7. I think the same happens with my charge skill.
Frame advantage of a move can change based on the spacing it connects at. (This actually relates to your question about active frames earlier. If you hit them later in the active frames of the move, you put them into blockstun later, AND you have fewer active/recovery frames of the move to burn through yourself before you're allowed to move again, so you end up being more plus.)
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>>507672364
>Vaseraga is not a grappler,
what the fuck determines if someone is a grappler
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>>507672678
God I want to fuck Zeta’s brains out
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I’m not the vaseraga guy but how the fuck am I supposed to remember all this stuff when I’m playing a match and people are hitting me with a million attacks?
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>>507672678
God I want Zeta to sit on my face
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>>507672678
I want Zeta to show me her f-shiki
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>>507672678
I want to hold hands with Zeta.
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>>507671817
>text limit
ALSO also when it comes to 2H vs 632146M. 2H has more vertical range so in some cases when your priority is to just get one hit in you might want to use 2H even if it's slower. >Unfortunately there's a weird dead zone in his 2H, where it won't hit the opponent who is jumping right in front of your face so there's that too. I usually go for 2Hs unless I know I might not react in time to stuff a jump, then I'd go for 632146M.

ALSO also also, when using any kind of version of 632146X (besides the ult one) in the corner, instead of getting a safe 5U, you get a safe jump.
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>>507672774
You don’t. you remember part of it and then the rest is slowly reinforced into you
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>>507672715
It’s somewhat subjective. There’s no “official” definition. But basically a grappler is a character whose main win condition is a command throw (or the threat thereof). Vas has a strong command throw but his main win con is Soul Forge plus his armored walk.
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>>507672678
I want Zeta to stop screeching like a harpy so I can enjoy sex with Bea
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>>507672774
You don’t. Once you know how to play the game it basically feels like playing any other video game. The homework study part is just so you can understand why certain interactions work the way they do, and it helps build your intuition for how to make good decisions in-game.
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>>507673009
>screeching like a harpy
That’s that gorilla Beatrix. Zeta has the beautifully clear cries of a warrior
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>>507663890
i need zoujosama so bad
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>>507663890
>ohohohoho
and just like that Cygames came up with something no one knew they wanted
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>>507672959
What i meant was that when i hit with my c.L (close Light), im +8, but when it gets blocked im only +4.
Thank you.
Can you help me with how i read the frames? I understand the Total Frames being all of the attack and Advantage being + or - but how do i see how many active frames an attack has? Or how much recovery frames it has?
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>>507673982
>how do i see how many active frames an attack has?
that's the neat part you don't. unless you install a frame data mod
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>>507672774
What are you having trouble thinking about? If its the frame data, i wouldnt worry too much about the specifics as most of it isnt important. just know what moves are plus, and which ones are punishable on block. dont worry about hitting with the latter active frames, its only really matters for certain meaty options and specific special moves that advance your character forward, in which case its best to hit at max range (like viras 214L for example is -6 at close range and is punishable on block, or -4 when used at max range, and is safe on block)

most things carry over between games with minor differences too, its not as hard as it sounds
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>>507673982
>but when it gets blocked im only +4
When you hit the opponent with a move, they get put into hitstun. When they block your move, they get put into blockstun. They’re two different numbers, the devs can set them to be whatever they want.
Hitstun almost always lasts longer than blockstun because the purpose of hitstun is to allow you to combo into the next move, so you need a lot of frames to do that. Blockstun can’t last for that long because otherwise you’d have crazy pressure strings that the opponent couldn’t escape from, so blockstun might give you a LITTLE frame advantage but not much.
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>>507673982
>What i meant was that when i hit with my c.L (close Light), im +8, but when it gets blocked im only +4.
youre +8 because its giving you enough hitstun to combo. youre +4 on block because the opponent blocked your attack, and the game is giving you a chance for a mix up (if they mash when youre plus, they get frame trapped and eat a combo, if they continue blocking, then they leave themselves open for being thrown. This is the foundation for strike/throw mix)

it will make more sense if you use c.M or c.H instead, as being plus on block is the exception, not the norm. most attacks are minus on block, so If a move is blocked, you must either chain it into another normal/special (a blockstring), go for a mix, or give up your turn if you end it on a safe on block move (its safe on block if its less than -5).
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>>507673982
i wouldnt worry about frame data on hit, its unneeded and will just add to the confusion. Its just hitstun to allow you to combo; just play around and see what your combo routes and ignore frame data on hit

All you need to know is what moves are plus on block, and which moves are punishable on block
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>>507675110
>and see what your combo routes and
and see what your combo routes are and***
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>>507675110
I agree with this anon
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>all 3 stores ive went to dont have mucinex
>online orders dont accept my drivers license
this might be the end for me kizzingtons
i can feel myself slowly becoming a lance player
fukunaga im coming
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>>507675878
cute mom
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>>507674745
>>507674698
>>507674081
>>507675110
>>507675225
>>507675286
My 2 hit combo is -3.
My 3 hit combo is -4.
My L is +2, M is -4 and H is -15.
My c.L/c.M/c.H are +4/+3/-4.
My 2L is 0, 2M is -6, 2H is -13.
My projectile is -3, Mprojectile is -9, Hprojectile is +3, Uprojectile is +24.
Charge skill is -8 for both L and M, H is -5, U is -6.
My grab skill is +35 for L and H (M is in the air) and U is +44.
5U is -6.
66L is +2, 66M is -14 (but it hits crouching opponents?), 66H is -4.
With most of these being -, why not just wait for my opponent to be - instead of trying to attack and leave myself vulnerable?
Should i be using the grab skill as much as possible then since its so +?
What should i Meaty with, my c.H? (It has First Active Frame 15)
Should i never use my charge skill unless i want to extend a combo or get close with Armor since its always -?
Why do you say its safe on block if its less than -5? I dont seem to have any attack that is that fast. The attack with the fastest First Active Frame is my 2L at 6.
How do you do that thing where you get close to try and bait a Throw then go back slightly and in again to hit when they get baited (i forgot the term for it)? I always seem to get caught with the Throw when walking back.
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>>507676581
because offense is better than defense in this game
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>>507676581
>Why do you say its safe on block if its less than -5?
because the fastest moves in the game are close lights at 5 frames and throw at 4 frames. (vaseraga unfortunately doesn't get to have one of these).
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>>507676581
>>507676728
>>507676962
I forgot to add to this, should i always prioritise my grab skill over a Throw?
Why cannot i chain (link?) any skill after 66M?
Why cannot i chain (link?) my 5U after 2U but i can do skills?
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>>507676581
>How do you do that thing where you get close to try and bait a Throw then go back slightly and in again to hit when they get baited (i forgot the term for it)? I always seem to get caught with the Throw when walking back.
go into control settings and turn your backdash on dash macro on and use that to avoid the throw button. Alternatively you space it properly and walk back enough to not get hit but I believe vas has one of the worst? backward walk speeds. I may be wrong.
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>>507676581
Anon, no offense but youre REALLY overthinking things.

>With most of these being -, why not just wait for my opponent to be - instead of trying to attack and leave myself vulnerable?
Youre not vulnerable, youre minus. all that means is the other player can take their turn on offense
>should i be using [skill] as much as possible
everything in moderation. dont be predictable as everything has counterplay
>Why do you say its safe on block if its less than -5? I dont seem to have any attack that is that fast. The attack with the fastest First Active Frame is my 2L at 6.
other characters have faster attacks. -5 and under is safe on block as it guarantees that youll be able to block any attack the opponent sends out if they block your attack. -6 and above is punishable on block because it means its possible for the opponent to hit you before you can block
>How do you do that thing where you get close to try and bait a Throw then go back slightly and in again to hit when they get baited
thats called a shimmy. throws have decent range in this game, so just practice being right outside the range
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>>507675878
>i can feel myself slowly becoming a lance player
I'll put you out of your misery anon. Just look at the flowers...
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>>507677093
>I forgot to add to this, should i always prioritise my grab skill over a Throw?
almost always yes
>Why cannot i chain (link?) any skill after 66M?
just how it is
>Why cannot i chain (link?) my 5U after 2U but i can do skills?
just how it is
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>>507675878
don’t do it bro…
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I don't think anybody in the game can do 5U after 2U right?
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>>507676581
>With most of these being -, why not just wait for my opponent to be - instead of trying to attack and leave myself vulnerable?
Anon, what are you going to do when the opponent finishes their blockstring and is minus? Youre going to attack and start your own blockstring. Youre not changing anything here, youre just giving your opponent free reign to run their mix on you first. youre not gaining anything, all youre doing is putting yourself in disadvantage.
What if your opponent has a projectile or plays safe with pokes without giving you a clear "I AM ENDING MY BLOCKSTRING NOW" signal? youre just sitting there then
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just BC bro, didnt pay 50 dollars to block
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>>507677376
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>>507678035
Im sorry. Its just that i want to be a threat when im close but what usually happens is i attack 2 or 3 times which the enemy blocks and then they hit me back.
I played with people from here that would throw projectiles at me and jump/run around and even when i got close they would manage to get away from me.
Is my grab skill working the same as a Throw except it cannot be countered, meaning i can catch Cross Overs and Evades with it?
Im sorry if im being annoying.
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>>507678561
>Im sorry. Its just that i want to be a threat when im close but what usually happens is i attack 2 or 3 times which the enemy blocks and then they hit me back.
you have to do a blockstring so the enemy will be afraid to mash
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>>507678561
if they are mashing you need to frametrap them. that will discourage them to mash and you can reset into more pressure and your throws.
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>>507678561
>Is my grab skill working the same as a Throw except it cannot be countered, meaning i can catch Cross Overs and Evades with it?
yes you can.
>>507678561
>Im sorry if im being annoying.
its all good
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>>507678561
command grabs act just as regular grabs, except they cant be teched and they beat out other grabs.
Vas is a big body brawler whose gameplan is to close in on the opponent and put them into a vortex of strike/throw mix for game.

>what usually happens is i attack 2 or 3 times which the enemy blocks and then they hit me back
id recommend looking up basic blockstring and strikethrow guides, as if you dont have a plan, then youre just giving up your turn.

Your blockstring gameplan should be as follows:
Condition your opponent to block, then throw out command grabs when they start respecting your pressure. Do this by ending your pressure in a plus on block move. When youre plus, your c.L counterhits people mashing. once you condition them not to mash, thats when you start throwing out command grabs and then it starts to boil down to coin flips. You need to mix up your blockstrings so your opponent doesnt know when it ends. You shouldnt be getting hit back unless your ending with a risky move that is punishable on block
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>>507680004
punchable face.
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>>507680004
thank you
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Thank you for the help.
>>507679254
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>>507678723
Last post and ill stop for now, sorry.
>Do this by ending your pressure in a plus on block move
Could you give me an example of that? Im not sure what that means with so few moves being + for me, you mean i finish my attacks that hit them then walk up and do a single c.L and then do a new 3 hit attack and if they try to interrupt me they get hit?
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>>507681163
>Last post and ill stop for now, sorry.
You don't need to be sorry. People are glad to teach/discuss the game, and it's not like we have anything else to do.
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>>507680952
correct that is my mistress
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>>507681419
MASTURBATE! DE ARIMASU
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God, imagine Djeeta running around naked... her penis flopping in the wind...
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>>507681776
She never mentions doing that nude you fucking freak
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>>507681163
It's actually really fun answering your questions, it's so rare that we get someone who is both 1) brand new to fighting games and 2) actually wants to learn the game instead of just complaining all the time. So feel free to ask as many questions as you want.
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>>507681885
rude
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>>507681776
Djeeta the exhibitionist
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>>507678561
The way pressure works for each character is really specific to that character so the best thing to do is just watch replays from good Vas players and try to understand what they're doing and copy it.
The most basic RPS in the game is strike vs throw. You make people afraid you're going to attack, so they block, but then instead of doing a strike, you do a throw. There's a lot more layers to it but that's the basic idea.
One basic thing you can do is cL followed by throw, which beats blocking, or cL followed by a SLIGHTLY delayed cH, which beats mashing.
You can go into training mode and set the dummy to mash cL after blocking a hit. Try hitting the dummy with cL followed by cH, if you get the big red counter animation then your frametrap worked.
>>507681163
Most characters in the game don't have easy access to plus-on-block moves that they can use in pressure strings. For Vaseraga almost everything he has is minus. But you can run pressure even if all your moves are minus, so you need to learn how to do that.
Vaseraga's armored walk is a huge part of his pressure but that's a thing that's unique to him that no one else has so it's best to learn that stuff from someone who mains the character.
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>>507681163
I wish I could find you a video summarizing these concepts anon but in general you dont want to use the triple attack since it leaves no room for your opponent to make a mistake (outside of getting by a high/low at the end, if you choose to do that).
Since vaseraga has weird(slow) buttons I am not sure how he actually does his frametraps/pressure sequences and hope one of the vas anons can give you concrete advice.

But for example close light ends up being +4 on block. You are essentially guaranteed a follow up unless you press something far too slow. So you can do two of these back to back before you are pushed out of c.L range and require a further(slower) button. You could press that button(far light for example), you could also follow it up with a plus on block special(say fireball) or you could walk up slightly and attempt to throw them, or command throw them on vas.
Your goal is to force them into taking some risk on taking their turn back and not just letting you endlessly slide up and bop them.
When you always do the triple attack autocombo sequence there is little guesswork involved for the other player.

This video is probably over long and there might be more concise ones them this but it might help you a lot to watch some parts of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFYNB9HZrNY
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>>507681163
i dont play Vas so i dont know the specifics, but your c.L , c.M , and 66L are all plus.
so you can Mix doing stuff like:
66L > c.L / grab
c.M > c.M (link it, dont autocombo it, it becomes a frame trap)
c.L > c.M > c.M / grab
66L > c.L > c.M > c.M > command grab
You can chain together multiple frametraps in a row to make the pressure more ambiguous, although dont become too predictable because frametraps can be DP'd out of. mix.

214L/M are safe combo enders, and 214H/U are risky pressure resets with plus frames, but theyre not frametraps so you can be hit out of them, so mix when you do them in blockstrings (as in dont autopilot into doing all three hits of the autocombo, then 214H, because then its obvious what youre doing and when)
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Replay takeover will save season 2
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>>507681163
Do you want to play some mirror? I will show you what to do as him.
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>>507683442
it's probably just the color, but I can't stop seeing this vas as an edgy spurdo
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>>507683442
you should fight this man
he might even be euro
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>>507683712
I think the only Vaseraga players I've seen here on /gbvsg/ were the Bruise obsessed kot and the Grimgawd when he participated in a tourney with it
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>>507681776
I was just thinking earlier how funny it would be if the chibi Djeeta had a big futa cock you could ram into the other chibis in the lobby.
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>>507683442
Yes.
>>507683247
>>507682974
>>507682769
Thank you. I very rarely use that forward walking skill.
I also often struggle with doing c. attacks since i constantly get pushed back when attacking so i struggle to get super close to do them.
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>>507684009
Yeah in general Vaseraga is not a character who wants to run in and get close. Your plan is to make people give you space with your massive buttons so you have time to set up the armor.
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>>507684009
>Yes.
see in you 5 minutes in our lobby
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>>507681163
What the first dude said, characters have their own unique way of utilizing their kit to play out their offense.
Some characters are plus frames machines like Belial, where everything he does is plus and he just keeps cycling plus frames in your face.
Vaseraga isn't like that
I can't really do a good write up on how he works because I don't play him, but watching some replays is bound to give you some ideas
Take this game as an example
https://youtu.be/hNzKRL7figY
First round. You can see he doesn't rush into Nier, instead he jumps back. He keeps walking back and then tries to interrupt Nier walking forward with his charge. She respects it and he presses fL, then he tries to pressure her with his H chad walk, but gets thrown out of it. Nier pressures him for a bit, the exact same scenario as above plays out again.
Vaseraga interrupts Nier's pressure with his down Light (2L) and combos into chadwalk slam, takes a chunk of her. Ends the combo and uses meter to continue pressure with his projectile. He then grabs her with his Heavy command grab. Nier is now at about 27% health, but you can see that even with such a health lead, he still plays conservatively. After he throws her, he starts to try and chip her out.
You can go into that youtube channel, there's a playlist with Vaseraga replays
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>>507679254
>and they beat out other grabs.
command grabs dont have immunity to regular grabs if that's what you're saying.
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>>507684527
they dont but if they actually land on the same frame the command grab wins.
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>>507684690
obviously a niche scenario since they have more range to begin with but for the sake of the other anon i assume that is what he meant.
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>>507684429
>the awkward pause where they both back up and stare at each other after bc fails on a 66l at 2:21
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I have a feeling people are waking up to the avatar belial question
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>>507686074
I'm seeing more of them around
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>>507684429
https://youtu.be/hNzKRL7figY?t=179
>desu
>desu
>desu
cute combo
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>>507667347
this looks balanced compared to this webm
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>>507686341
i wouldn't fist bump him either after this shit
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>>507686472
the better play won bro shake his hand
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>>507686341
>tranny
deserved. stop ruining fighting games
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>>507686341
>drive half a country (or, since they seem American, half a fucking continent) to enter tourney
>pay tourney fee to enter tourney
>lose to this
Same mental illness as Yugioh players doing the same to lose to Stun because you can't draw your fucking outs
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https://youtu.be/QSKPI_uMdco?t=124
kek
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>>507686341
Partysharter game
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>anon who claims he dislikes strive and doesn't play it, keeps posting webms of it
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>>507686596
>doing the same to lose to Stun
QRD? (never played a card game in my life)
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>>507686715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWbBuVfQDY
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The one time when I asked a character specific question as a newfag all i got was snarky sarcastic responses and called a retard. Meanwhile this newfag is literally asking "what button do i press to walk forward" and everyone is being the most polite and helpful person in the world? I hate you all
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>>507687072
what did you ask and about who..
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>>507687072
you likely asked something for
>belial
>kat
>bea
>zoners
all that people here hate
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>>507686715
I hate this bitch so much
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>>507687072
you asked at the wrong time. it's EU hours right now. what to try again?
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>>507686715
>aids vs cancer
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>>507687072
There's something like 100 different people who post here every thread. It depends on who you were (un)lucky enough to run into that day.
The Vas anon said this is his first fighting game and he's genuinely making an effort to learn and ask detailed questions so I think that makes people more likely to help.
Also yeah if you asked about Nier tech near launch or something then that would have invited shitposting.
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>>506165708
Holy shit I found it
And I hate youtube algo so much man, it's so stupid. I literally put it in the search bar ''google talk futanari porn'' (and variants, you get the idea) but instead got a whole lot of fucking futas dangling their cocks in my face on youtube instead of what I was actually looking for
https://youtu.be/p-A8GvUehq4
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I havent played in a year or any other fighting games but I got the urge to play, should I..
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>>507687072
maybe your questions were bad
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>>507686596
I've gotten a little into TCGs lately and it's hilarious how much of the discourse is EXACTLY the same ("it's all about full aggro these days", "why can't we just go back to when the game was honest?")
Also control deck players are the equivalent of zoners ("why don't the devs support our archetype? we deserve to be meta too", "why do people get mad at me when my entire strategy is to prevent them from playing the game as much as possible?")
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>>507686961
Back in time (20 years ago), Monster effects were a few, rare and not that powerful.
Slowly, the game evolved being heavily centered on Monster effects, becoming more powerful etc..

This 20 years old card then kept getting better because of that, and so many similar ones that slow down the pace of the game (in Yugioh you play your entire deck out in one turn almost). Since they limit the pace of the game, it's called "Stun". Basically what they do is activate all of these, you can't play shit, your opponent plays something big that completely ignores all your bullshit or their own even and just doesn't let you play and they win in like 10 turns because you can't find the few cards in your deck that actually counter this strategy because it's card game so RNG is included.

So basically you drive to another country, pay the fee blabla just to get stunlocked and not being able to play at all. GGs shake my hand bro.
This is actually quite rare for you to happen to a tournament because actual Stun decks are actually bad, but most of the times meta decks are even worse than this in terms of unfun.
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>>507687613
play wit this dick
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>>507687502
>am i gonna watch 48 mins of nerds talking about porn searches
mmmm maybe
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>>507687613
Yes!
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>>507687613
will you cum on your own face?
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>>507687502
>Ougi Ogas
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>>507687219
>>507687221
I was a playing for a few days at that point. I was asking what i was supposed to do when the opponent would just sit in block and instant tech all my throw attempts. I got no actual answer, some guy asked who I was playing. I said Narmaya, and then I got called a retard, was told to kill myself and one guy said "fwip"
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>>507687072
if your post started with the usual "Why does X get to do Y" sarcastic question then you deserved it.
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>>507688053
I already spermed into my hand and didnt wash it off yet but I've done that before
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>>507687694
How long do matches of yugioh take to play out? Is it a best of one setting?
I kind of lied, I played a tiny bit of ARTIFACT when it first launched and would blow my brains out if something like this happened to me in grand finals or some shit
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>>507687502
>Ougi gives a talk about futa porn
Meme magic is real
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>>507688286
megabased
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>>507688286
>shitposting folder
terminally online tranny
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>>507688241
>one guy said "fwip"
based
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>>507688241
The way you present your question could be a factor. And sometimes the thread is just ass
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>>507688405
Bo3
Who starts first is a coinflip so yeah if you start first the Stun deck is getting fucked because they get to beat you in Game 2 but in Game 3 you go first again and they have no way preventing you from playing your turn 1. But if you lose it? lol Hope they don't draw good. Yugioh is garbage like that, even with meta or normal decks.

You play your entire deck out the 1st turn, if your opponent drew a good hand they break your board and win, otherwise you win, almost every game is decided at turn 3.
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>>507688241
That's a really controversial question, so while I don't condone the shitposting, I understand why you got sarcastic answers. A lot of people have LOUDLY complained about how weak throws are in Rising, but some people are opposed to the idea that throws in Rising are inherently weaker than they are in other games.
That being said, "fwip" was actually a legitimate answer, because it is a great throwbait.
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>>507688241
you are playing scamchang you got what's coming
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>>507688241
as the guy who asked you who you were playing and the guy who said fwip... im sorry.
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>>507688241
desu that's funny
>one guy said "fwip"
so you did get help
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>>507688241
That's what you get for being a disgusting scamchang.
Fwip is unironically a good answer every time
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>>507688649
Is this a running theme among all card games? I did try to play hearthstone at one point but immediately realized how frustrated I was when I had bad initial cards and it felt like I was destined to just lose with no recourse outside of getting insanely lucky in the next few turns.
I don't know if any card games actually have a system where you have actual control over your initial hands but that sounds like something i'd like.

Thanks for replying anon
Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising
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I hate H flip
I hate U flip
I hate Narmaya!
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>>507689274
Having played all popular (Western) TCGs:
- Yugioh: you play your entire Deck turn 1. Your goal is to make your opponent not play at all in turn 2. If you do you win, otherwise you lose;
- Pokémon: similar to Yugioh but it has absolutely 0 interactivity (although stun strategies and card exist too but very minor), both players get to play their entire deck during their turn 1. The one who gets the better combo wins;
- Magic: would be the most balanced TCG but >>>>>>lands;
- Hearthstone: unironically the most honest TCG because it doesn't pretend it's not an RNG garbage fiesta
- Digimon&One Piece: unfortunately I haven't played them because I refuse to play games that don't have a digital version but they look decently fun, One Piece is probably the 3rd/4th most popular TCG right now. Digimon has the best energy system I've seen in a card game ever.

Overall they're fun but too RNG reliant, hence why I will never take them seriously. At least here in fighting games you get 50/50s but as a reward for knocking you down or cornering you, not every fucking time
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>>507688660
Yeah well I knew nothing about tiers nor any of this thread's super epic memes at that time. The fwip response was too vague since it didn't describe any context nor any appropriate follow up moves (unlike >>507683247) so it felt 95% sarcastic and 5% honest advice to me when I tried to implement it and found myself constantly getting thrown/countered/BC'd out of my "fwip" attempts
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>>507689889
Do you still need help?
I feel for that one anon who posted about getting into S++ in like 50 games as pre-nerf Beatrix and people shat on him because they thought he was shitposting
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>>507690257
>>507690257
you can go there if you want to... or not.
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Vaseraga is also considered a fraud Warioware character here, yet that anon received all help.

It's all about how you ask questions.
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>>507690112
I was gonna say that was probably me, but I could only get S+ with her pre-nerf, and it took me a lot more than 50 games.



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