Merry Christmas Exiles!>Most Recent Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3645467>Launch Live Updateshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3594080>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>Buy Early Access Keyhttps://pathofexile2.com/purchase>FAQhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981>Trade Sitehttps://www.pathofexile.com/trade2>Ladderhttps://pathofexile2.com/ladders>Wikihttps://www.poe2wiki.net>Game Databasehttps://poe2db.tw>Ingame Chat Channel/global 1488Bricked >>507550183
please advise or comment
I finished a map and this quest appeared. He won't speak to me at the refuge and I can't find anything in the map I finished..
>>507579018If you feel like you have to beat all the content then sure. But you really don't, the fun part is the journey anyway. And the journey is more fun in ssf-HC regardless of how far you get.
anyone else love the smell of their own asshole?
I want to love mace + shield warrior but it sucks ass so fucking much. I thought "oh well, maybe it kinda falls off in maps", but it doesn't even get to that point, it becomes literally unplayable in the fucking Hunting Grounds, barely 30 minutes in.
>>507579262No, but it smells interesting, hard to not give it a whiff if you scratch.
>>507579142its bugged until you go into the giant tower and look at the door
>favorite map slot unlockedHow do I assign maps to that?
what skill do I use to level pathfinderplease god this is awful
these map layouts SUCK
Can we start moderating the complaints, I’m sorry “feed back”.At this point this subreddit is just having the same complaints reposted over and over and the subreddit is drowning in them. There is a dedicated thread for this AND GGG has a forum dedicated to feed back on their website that they (and many of us) would like you to use. Please enforce something regarding complaints that have like 50 previous posts in the last day or few days.People are acting like if we don’t repeat an issue 2,000 times on Reddit that the devs won’t be aware of it. Most “feed back” are people mostly venting about their frustration. At this point they have to be 1000% aware of every single little issue. Even taking reddit out of the picture I’m sure they know from their actual feedback forums a lone and content created videos.Many people are also posting like this isn’t EA, condemning the game as bad lol. Comment sections filled with “this is EA”. Maybe gamers have forgotten what actual EA is like and for, honestly I don’t blame you on this one with how EA is used in the gaming industry today (to deliver games that are done content wise but full of bugs and issues).TLDR: Please use the dedicated feed back thread and GGG website for issues, complaints, mental breakdowns. Please avoid being dedicated post number 40 of the day about x or y issue.(Extra side rant) if you’re new to this game and having problems, it’s probably you. The game has problems but you’re probably doing little to actually balance/engage with aspects of the game or tap the power of your character. And that’s ok, just don’t post like it’s the games fault that your hand isn’t being held and you aren’t being rewarded for playing a lot. It’s not an easy game and this is probably the hardest the game will ever be. Come to the subreddit like a student who wants to learn, not a consumer who feels that spending 30 dollars and playing all day should be grounds for reward in its self.583 comments
>>507578064You need a weapon upgrade badly. Try getting something with 300-400DPS by trading.
>>507579175You're only adding weight to my argument that it is YOU who need to improve, when all you can do is caricature me as suggesting you stick to the easiest of encounters. You should push the content as hard as possible, provided you have the following prerequisites:1) Gear/Spec2) Motor Skills/Situational Awareness3) KnowledgeYou should push as far and hard as possible, while knowing your limits, which you clearly do not, indicating a failure in one or more of these three categories.
>>507579413EA, got it, thanks.
What's the best class to take advantage of stat stacking if my main weapon to use is the quarterstaff that gets % increases based on stats?
>>507579563I saw the same thread redditbro!
So i found a half decent belt with 3 slots on SSF somehow. What are the best charms to run, Rarity Stun Freeze??
>>507579343Earthquake(just the initial small hit) then boneshatter clears packs. You can autoattack instead of earthquake if your damage is low. This works at least to act 3. Bosses gets destroyed by perfect strike.
>>507579162>the fun part is the journey anywayWrong >the journey is more fun in ssf-HC regardless of how far you getWrong
1 death per map must go
>>507579563they do. the faggot reddit mods have to manually approve every post and they only let through "I found my first divine orb XD" and people bitching about things they don't like. any important thing that needs attention or positive feedback gets instantly deleted.
>>507579671So just don't die?
>>507579664So what is it you enjoy? To me running through the game in SC is not fun because you can't fail, there's no stake at all.
>>507579557why?
So I'm sure I'm not the only one here playing non-stop since launch, I only stop to sleep every 3 days, now on to the issue, I'm using an goo adult diaper to not have to waste time in the bathroom, but even with frequent changes every 3 days I'm still getting some crusted on the cheeks which I think is starting to cause an eczema, any tips?
>>507579162I don't see how doing the same exact thing again and again if you die is fun, unless you're streaming because then it's content
>>507579650apparently rarity doesnt really work, it only procs after the rare dies so its useless most of the timecant go wrong with stun + freeze and then whatever you want to help with defenses, chaos slow chill
>>507579563seems reasonable. doomtroons are unhinged so i imagine they are spamming reddit as much, if not more, than they do here.>HOLY ZIZ HATE GAME SAY SO BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>HOLY WHAT HAPPEN TO GAME WHEN YOUTUBER ASMANGOL SAY IS PROBLEM WIT GAME! BFR BFR BFR BRF!!! REEEEEEEEEiirc reddit banned steamchart posts during expedition or scourge league.
>>507579934You always do the same thing over and over again in this kind of game, dying or not dying.
>>507579671I disagree but waystone drops need to be way more commonmaps should also award SOMETHING on completion, finishing a map is utterly unrewarding
>>507579587what modifiers should i look out for?
>>507579837If I didn't want to die I wouldn't be playing SC.
>>507579934That's why im gonna play standard
>you have to complete over a 100 maps to get your big boy atlas pointshaired designthis game is such a fucking slog in almost every fucking way imaginable
How difficult is the breachstone boss? I have shit gear and even the Sanctum time wizard took me forever to kill.
>all the chase items are just straight ripped from poe1>all mechanics are straight ripped from poe1This game is redundant consolesloppa
>>507580004by the time you are in t10+ you either ignore most maps or pick them up to vendor for gold.
No box in 10 years says a lot about how GGG now views their games
>>507580227Imagine that, a grindy arpg made by grinding gear games, what a shocker.
>>507580356qrd
>>507579609Post your hcssf character screen
>>507580360retard, grinding endgame is fine, needing 10-8 map completions of every tier before that is gayrope yourself, faggot
>>507580257i think hes a bit tankier than the time wizard and he hits harder if youre playing trade you should just sell the stone and get better gear, otherwise maybe wait a bit
>>507580468You don't need to play every tier, you can do higher tier maps and it'll still count
>>507580468he doesnt know you can run any higher tier for the questsOH NONONONONONO AHAHAHHAHshould've learned how to read
>>507580468spoken like someone who has never played path of exile.
>>507580506Yeah that is what I expected, thanks.
when mark walks awayyou don't hear jonathan saypleaaaaaaaaaseoh divineplease dropsimple and cleanis the way that mark's making me feel tonightit's hard to let it drop
>>507579981>rarity charm doesn't workHahahahahaha lmao holy shit. Rip utility flasks straight from poe1 and they can't even get them to work right holy shit fucking retards.
>>507580468>needing 10-8 map completions of every tier before
>>507580536then i get no sustain on mapsbest strategy is to go for the tier you need to complete, because i don't have a lot of atlas nodes and waystone drop rate is abysmal, so i need to save higher waystones for next tier completion quest>>507580602>>507580616ty for the (You)s fags
Reminder that item rarity on every piece of gear is MANDATORY in poo2https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hlzax1/loot_from_an_11breach_300_increased_item_quantity/
>>507579981>apparently rarity doesnt really work, it only procs after the rare dies so its useless most of the timewait whatno way
>>507579864doing breaches in maze layouts suck
>>507580936Yeah even on new characters I only equip things with rarity
>>507580936downgrade item to magic, then use essen of luck, done
What does Venerating a shrine mean?
>>507579981It works on the rare you kill, retard. Meta is to kite it to a rare chest if possible.
>>507580468>leveling through questswhat were they thinkin
>>507581135Making a cum tribute for Asala
>>507579981How do you even test that?
why do on death effects exist in poe2? they said on death effects are a thing in poe1 as a way for monsters to fight back against the player's overwhelming power aka zoom.but poe2 was designed to be a methodical, souls like, more deliberate and strategic game play. so why do they exist?
>>507581202this is fucking retarded
Please name my character for me. I am suffering from character creation paralysis
i'm a slow burn tier 1 map enjoyer. just take your time bro, soak in the envrio. stay clam and slay demons.
So all I do in Untainted Paradise is slaughter endangered species?
>>507580037The most important thing is +% physical damage and physical damage. + Projectile skill level is also good but your not likely to get both without a divine.
>>507581379CoohmAKilla
>>507581342It's not my fault your stupid ass thinks the charm applies after the loot drops.
>>507581287>>507580975>>507580797thats what i saw some people saying on r*ddit anyway. people tested it by decreasing iir to 0 with ventors + ingenuity or something and rares only dropped white items even with the charm
>>507581620no i mean it's retarded design>little amount of mf for 1 second after killing a rarethere is no point in using that trash
>>507581658You aren't part of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vcJjx4DerMITS UPPPP
>>507581768meds
>>507581326same reason, to punish the idiots still trying to run around as a glass cannon deadeye
>>507581829its... stormweaver DAMN who would have THUNK?? crazy
>>507581893Shut up nigger, defenses in PoE have always been retarded, the only defense is one tapping shit before it one taps you
>>507579837This is the way. There are however those who would rather find excuses rather than look inward. A proper Path of Exile 2 experience requires competency in three areas.1) Knowledge>how do I stay alive from fire/cold/etc damage?Knowing the systems of the game and then...2) Gear and Spec.>my fire resist is now 75%!...converting the knowledge of those systems into hard numbers...3) Motor Skills & Situational Awareness>not today fire guy, I rolled out of your magma slam.>(I made this one extra corny and cringe just to make the faggots mad.)...and then being perceptive and agile as an ACTION rpg requires.If the game is not for you, it simply isn't for you.It's quite brilliant design by GGG to have created a game in which YOU are very much the character as well as the character you are playing. Too many companies would take the easy path and just create a snoozefest (can't retain players if they keep whining, so make it easy) mindless dopamine conveyor belt in the name of milking more and more dollars out of the player. No. Path of Exile 2 is an experiment in seeing if you, the player, are up to the task, and it doesn't just wink this at you, it even laughs at you for noticing (but only if you're paying attention.) Too many people don't get this, and the whining is pathetic, but of course, predictable in this sea of dopamine that we find ourselves unfortunately today.
>>507581829>spark stormweaverliterally nothing changed?
>>507581379Risto :DDD
>>507582048Kill yourself.
>>507582048I got to late game using nothing but my inner self
>>507581893you can still go for es/ev deadeye with grimfeast and ignore on death effects at endgame, they only make leveling and midgame maps feel like shitretard
>>507581935If an anon says on day 3 stormweaver arc is busted, he gets ridiculed, if a streamer says it week 2, its revelutionaryIm so tired bros
>>507582134I couldn't have wished for a better response. Merry Christmas!
>>507581983uhoh caught playing a bad build? what are you gonna do, make another post about how maps should have more than 1 portal?if you want to play poe1 go play it.
>>507581935>>507582094its a ssf buildwithout the spark amulet
literally me when I charge my staff
>>507582048Gayest post of the year
>>507582048gayest post itt
>>507582048Kill yourself
>>507582293Being at the end of the year, I take this as the highest possible compliment!
>you can zoom out way more with a controllerfucking console cucks
>>507582048This post was brought to you by the National Association of Gayposters
>>507582171grim feast is getting dumpstered, how bout you make a good build instead of relying on clearly broken mechanics to try and faceroll your way through every aspect of the game?i cannot wait for the galaxy of salt that will happen when the big nerf patch comes
>>507582240Holy fucking retard, how can a single person be this stupid, did your father cum sideways while impregnating your mom for you to be this mentally disabled?
>>507581829people are going to have an aneurism next week.
>>507582507until then
>>507582241Oh WOW crazy, next you are gonna tell us infernalist is tank without <insert unique> damn boy!!
>>507582384you can zoom out further on PC with a trick too, you just gotta scroll right when you open atlas, the timing is hard to get though
PoE2 was such a flop they can't even afford to give out a free box
is this worth taking?
I'm only dying to stun and freeze. This is so fucking boring..
>>507579659>Earthquake(just the initial small hit) then boneshatter clears packsThis doesn't matter when it's not even possible to approach packs without dying. The venom spitters in the Hunting Grounds instantly delete, their attack rate is way too fast.
>>507582394I am pleased to receive their sponsorship! Better that than the National Association of Whiny Faggotry!
>>507582384Adrian said its a console first game during his interview.
>>507582474there will always be a "broken" mechanic that allows you to faceroll through everythingyou will always lose, faggot
Is the namefag shitposting or actually serious, I can't tell
>>507581983t. 5k max hit tornado shot poe1 player
>>507582603Get some armor? Don't you have shield rush at that point too?
>>507582507Next week? Christmas is over in 1.5 days>>507582547Retard
>>507582576>get a 2 charm belt>run freeze and stun charm
>>507581829>Without trading>Has uniques
>>507582740You SURE showed me! Thank you for your hard earned KNOWLEDGE
does this do something for gas boom, or am I being retarded?
>>507582575This node could give you a 99% chance to drop a mageblood every map and youd still ask if its worth
>>507582576I charged back my card, no way I'm paying 480 for this
>>507582714Do I sound like I'm kidding? I'm tired of whiny faggots blaming the game, because it means they failed to look inward and solve the problems that are causing them to fail. I may be tired of whiny faggotry, but I'm tired.. for you. I want you to succeed.
when were u when u realised poo is dead and poo2 is a console exit scheme?
>>507582740GGG isn't coming back until late JanThey had a hard year with 2 whole leagues please understand
>>507582676What if I want to lose? What if its all an elaborate ploy to force you to give me the next build so I too can faceroll? Yeah your intellect is mine to suckle on and extract all the good bits.
>he paid to beta test poe2oh no no no no no!
>>507582787Retard>>507582920Nah the 27th is a normal work day
>>507582773rmt isnt trading
I also love sucking on some fat cocks, forgot to add this little bit, hehe!
>>507582958>me protecting anon from a bad 1.0 Launch by shitting on every humongous fumble GGG made in early access
>>507583004it not being a national holiday doesnt mean that people will be working on it, retard. have you ever had a job?
>>507583004No you are the retard, I'm smart and handsome
>>507582575>70% of maps are swamp/water/grassyou tell me if 40% more currency or jewel orbs is good or not.even the desert and forest bonuses arent that bad.mountain bonus sucks but that is like 5% of mapstldr; yes its noticeable and very good (some maps get multiple bonuses see poe2db)
I'm saving my tablets for poe3
>>507583115Are you....are you retarded anon?>>507583127Kay
>>507583215Fuck you don't kay me, I'm above you, you are below me, we aren't the same.
>>507582905rare to see a friendly and helpful poster here. i'm in t17s and struggling a bit with degens on my sparker, general mapping is fine but some breach and deli mobs are rough. any tips and tricks for juiced t17s and simulacrums?
>>507582576classic energy shield.dont forget to spend 100div on dream frags and 20 skill points getting stun threshold
>>507583215people have vacation time, stinky neetat companies people usually work together with other people so they take time off work simultaneously and christmas / new years is a common time for that. high chance not a single person is in the office until early january
>>507583276Your prose is off, you shouldve wrote "we are not the same" instead, wouldve been more impactful
TWO GAMESBOTH BAD
>>507583328>replying to yourselfthat's just sad, sis
>>507583276K
post what you're playing while waiting for GGG to fix PoE2
Do you get instantly b& when 1 guy reports you or is this (^-^)' guy (attaches the emoji to the end of literally all his messages) some sort of chat janny?
Gentlemen,if D4 = bad, and PoE2 = bad. we can extrapolate further and get PoE1 = badNow if that hypothetical is in fact true, would we not be forced to assume, that every ARPG = bad
Do most people play on Standard, Standard SSF, Hardcorde, or Hardcore SSF?
>>507583484just seems like the guy has it all figured out, some of the endgame content is a bitch. unless you think he's just a larping shitter stuck in t3 maps...
>>507583532I'm playing a sparking stormweaver. There is nothing to fix.
>>507583679can't you just mute him
>>507583723>if D4 = bad, and PoE2 = bad. we can extrapolate further and get PoE1 = badplease show the intermediate steps of this logical extrapolation
>>507583827yes but then i wouldnt be like batman in global chat saving everyone from having to listen to this faggot
>>507583778>Do most people play the actual game or on the autism snowflake modes?what do you think?
>>507583723>would we not be forced to assume, that every ARPG = badOf course, this is true
>>507583778If you're playing SSF you don't care about how many people play your league.Like 98% of people play softcore and the ones that don't get quickly sent there in this game.
>>507583679Why did you have to go out of your way and make yourself look like a complete subhuman by using 4chan lingo.
>>507583276
You retards need to understand that in socialistic non-American countries employers are forced to give employees some days off during christmas time when employees are paid not to work and have a good time.
>>507583805economy is still giga fucked because guess what no currency sinks + magic find = rich get richer poor get poorer
>>507584107Sounds like communism
>>507584107shut up bitch
There's nothing worse than a redditor.
>>507580468retaaaaaard
>>507584218What's a economy? Sorry I'm SSF.
It legitimately blackpills me that most of the PoE community want uniques to just be Diablo 4-type legendariesPlayers should never ever be listened to
>>507584264r*dditor
>>507583679Anon, surely you are not so out of touch with the rest of the world that you thought the word "avatarfagging" would fly outside of edgy spaces?>>507583869My bad, I thought people in here were familiar with Dr. Prof. C. BFR. Wilson
>>507584283my condolences
>>507583016
>>507580227>>507580468100 maps at around 3 minutes each. That's like 5 hours. I don't see the problem.
what were they thinking?
>>507584338Anon, not all uniques should be mega powerful, but 99% of them being dogshit I wouldn't even salvage if they didn't grant a chance shard and 1% being worth 300 divs is retarded design.
>>507584407>trade playerYou have my condolences as well
>>507584479You never know what the future will bring us.What looks dogshit now might become a build-definited item next year.
>>507584456>we should make a nice chase unique that replaces mageblood
>>507581379Just do random characters. You can always rename it on the website if an idea pops into your head.Most of my friends do MyName_League_Build.
Why do everyone and their mother do chaos damage? Should I take chaos innoculation? Is 2600 mana enough for tier 15 (to not get oneshot)?
crossbow fags, is dps the only thing you look for in a weapon, or does any other stat matter?
Inflation is such an obvious reddit lie. Exalt to Divine ratio stalled at around 70ex to a divine. You can easily get AT LEAST 5 ex a map doing literally nothing but a 2 prefix, 2 suffix T15 with no juice, no tree, no MF. Just going straight left or right from the center of the atlas will have you seeing a citadel every 30 or so maps where the Copper Citadel fragment is 2 divines each which you can complete on a completely white T15.The chaos to divine ratio in PoE 1 was once 200c to 1d
>>507584370poe1 is a superset of poe2, not equivalent to it, therefore step 3 is incorrect
>>507584629>using 8 skillsjonathan lmao
>>507584479if 99% of them weren't dogshit, they would just be significantly more rare to the point that people would complain they don't drop at all either. Why do people not understand this?
>>507584456>ritual is dogshit bad and terrible and the boss fight is copied from poe1>oh fuck oh fuck what do we do... nobody is going to do ritual like this.......>idea>give ritual an extremely overpowered reward with a drop chance of ~0.1% per ritual alter>now people will do ritual there you go
>PoE2 will fix melee, trust>PoE1 fixes melee one league before 2, it was just a numbers issue>PoE2 releases and melee is dogshit
>>507583778softcore trade is the most popular league by far, and i think hardcore ssf is in second place
>>507584549SSF in PoE2 is like picking merchants guild in last epoch while restricting yourself from using the auction house.Meanwhile trade in PoE2 is like playing launch Diablo 3We all lost
all those terracotta dudes for what? 5 gold and some junk.
>>507582603Please, just take some time to learn how to play. This is ridiculous. Check every piece of gear type that your build is using. Check for upgrades at vendors every level. The game is easy if you put any shred of effort into it at all and don't think like a sc trade fag who wants to corpse rush to end game (glad you can't do that on bosses anymore) and then rmt gear once at maps.
>>507584935xp
>10-20 ex for level 40-something wands wtf is going on
>>507579982>reddit>seems reasonablego the fuck back
>>507585058Stash space for trash costs real money.
>>507585058Inflation from the map restart exploit
>>507584685if it actually was a superset then the proof would be even easier since it contains everything that is bad about PoE2 and more
>>507584907trvth nvkethe only winners are the people that enjoy running through the campaign on every ascendancy, trying out all the skills and then quitting
>>507585223The what now
>equip scepter with attack speed and increased minion life which also had the best +minion skills i currently have>level up a bit and get some more nodes>notice raging spirits no longer explode on death>switch to old scepter>they still dont explode as they dont take enough self damage before thier timer runs outwell i just somehow bricked a key part of my build, awesome.
>>507585309Rolling back the map causes same loot to drop
>>507585058bots are farming multiple divs a map due to how fucked magic find is, so the economy is entirely based around RWT now. You might as well be playing SSF if you don't have a decent build already
>>507585204>cry>cry more>keep crying>cry even harder>pull your shit together long enough to post a steamchart and ask if the doomers were right>go back to crying
>>507585383thats not how loot is generated
>>507584629let me guess, no block no evasion no armor
>>507584629>Should I take chaos innoculation?
>>507585501>redditroon crying about others cryinggo back
I think I'm done for today bros. Gonna fap to some ntr and call it quits
so what's the actual reason that PoE/2 has so many players compared to other ARPGs despite being extremely unfriendly to new players? Is it just because of gold farmers inflating numbers?
>>507584629equip ghostwrithe, click some ES nodes and click CIyoure welcome
>>507585823>no udamn bro, you got me good.
>>507585858Ew
Overwolf is good
>an average reddit TRANNY gets THIS from a SINGLE MAPhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hlzax1/loot_from_an_11breach_300_increased_item_quantity/
Melee mobs having some gay little shockwave at the end of their attacks is really getting annoying
>>507585969>average play = needing to carry around a full magic find cuck slave everywhere you gonice game GGG
>>507585926>telling people to use a bug and get used to itdo we really need more people whining after the nerf hits
>>507585910Novelty. Give it a few days and it will be at LAst Epoch levels.
>>507586101ggg are on vacation for another 2 weeks, thats enough time to clear the entire game twice
>>507585910because the arpg area didnt have anything newlast epoch literally was only to hold people over until poe2
>>507579438>>favorite map slot unlockedLiterally nothing, it doesn't work. PoE2jeets just copypasted chunks of code from PoE1 without actually implementing old features.
I LOVE GETTING PUSHED AROUND THE MAP
>>507586107>LA levelstrue, this is what happens when you have gigantic marketing hype and then people realize they got duped into playing a shitty korean mmo
>>507586208WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE
>>507586208I HATE DELIRIUM NIGGAS
>>507585910Could it be because the game is fun?
>buy stash tabs for real money>put item in tab and set sale price>someone proceeds to buy your item for digital currencyBuying stash tabs is officially GGG sanctioned RMT.
>bricked the 3rd ascendancy quest cause I did the trial on on the wrong difficulty>every coins I got after that cant complete the questHow does shit like that even happen?Did they ever played their game during all these 6 year?
>>507583328>i'm in t17s and struggling a bit with degens on my sparkerFor degens, life flask should recover 25% immediately while sustaining the rest of the heal over time. You could go full immediate heal but it leaves you to the mercy of overhealing. Think of it like this... you counter a degen with a regen and it levels out. Meaning you CAN'T overheal because the flask effect is countering the degen, and thus will get to spend its full effect instead of stopping at full life. (Granted this doesn't account for 'life effects are not removed at full life' but that's a niche case) Then, if you need to spam instant heals in the event that hit damage is occurring at the same time, you can spam use for those 25% immediate bursts.As a glass cannon, you want your "break glass in case of emergency" to be strong enough to keep you alive and to make a retreat but then again, offense is the best defense so you'll want to feel out where that dividing line should be for what you're doing. Scaling up your damage is akin to free defense, as you can effectively keep your damage while moving the added damage into defenses, IF and only if you have the DPS to actually end the fight before out of mana/etc. resource and flask charges, enrage or etc timer (IE the act 3 forge flame boss is on a timer before the arena is entirely filled with lava)These are just a few suggestions. If you genuinely feel you've exhausted ALL possible options, then yes, it would be a balance issue at that point. I'm just tired of the whiny faggotry from those who whine before attempting to learn. I concede that bullshit mechanics are still bullshit mechanics, however I would disagree greatly with where people draw that line. I think the levers in Augury are brilliant because they force you to use situational awareness before pulling them (because you have to commit to an action that can't be stopped.) While this annoys the speedrunner, the player who wants to play methodically feels satisfied.
>>507586448its not a game, its an early access 12 months away from a game
>>507585910blizzard fucking diablo to death is a very big reason
>>507584085why does she make a voice filter of her pointing out drops
GIVE ME DUELIST NOW
I need a cuter chest for my sorc but the one I currenly have has 450 ES so I'll never be able to replace it.
does +projectile damage boost the dps of ice crystal explosions from glacial bolt?
>>507583532from brain rot to brain rot
>>507585969Thanks, my mood just went to shit...
>>507585910The game is incredibly good to casuals / normies. All the new people I see playing it are praising it endlessly and hopelessly addicted across countless twitch streams and other forums greatly outnumber the whining poe 1 fags. Most of these players haven't even made it to maps yet, love the campaign, and enjoy making a ton of different builds.Both games can exist and offer something different. Play one, both, or neither.There's a reason why players like quin69 are better than players like alkaizer at this game.
>>507586451>use your life flask on the current ci spark meta build.i was just baiting you into showing how much of a shitter you are, didn't expect it in the very first sentence. didn't read the rest obviously.
went into a juiced steaming springs map, and i crashed whenever i approached the boss area. just lost the map because i went through all the portals. jonathan RUINED my christmas man FUCK you jonathan
>>507586175It's embarrassing at this point. Shameless poe 1 mod cash grab.
>>507586448You aren't farming high enough area level zones for the right one to drop again for you.Actually a skill issue.
>>507585910Because PoE will always have the most rabid dedicated one-game playerbase out of all the others
>tfw 0 mf on gear
When do vendors in your hideout refresh at endgame? It doesn't seem to be on level up..
>>507586837Let me ask you: why is the CI spark meta build meta?Is it meta because it can handle all the content in the game?What if the build is lacking in defense but it's good enough for crackhead dopamine speedrunners to get their fix?What if I told you that you shouldn't expect to be able to handle all the content just because you're doing the "current hot thing"?What if I told you that you have to actually THINK instead of following a recipe that may or may not actually solve your problem?Are you even applying the recipe correctly?You're only making my point that people blindly following the meta are just another type of whiny faggot who thinks that because they're following a recipe means that they should just expect to breeze through the content and if not, that it's the game's fault (and maybe not something with the current meta.)
i'm getting a suspiciously large number of exalt drops in act 1-2like i just got two exalts from draven's tomb at level 9
done with my 8 hour goon sesh, time to do some maps
>>507587498nah that's normal
I've done merc, witch, and deadeye. Should I do a warrior now?
i just want the uniques to be cool and fun and not dogshit fucking ass pieces of shit
>>507587751stormweaver
>HOW TO DUPE>temporalis + 100% crit + choir of the storm + brutalitywat
>>507587749So I can go back and farm that zone over and over for 100 exalts / hour?
>>507587892Ex drops are very consistent throughout the whole campaign so just keep moving forward and you'll get lots
>>507587498you get like 20-30 exalts from the acts normally.
JOOONATHROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
I just died to a boss because I had terrible corpse consumption RNG and I think that's your fault. Why did you do this?
Level 82. Finally got a tier 10 map. I trans/aug/regal it then vaal it. Now it's a tier 9 map.
>>507587978I'm drunk
>>507580004I feel like every monster could drop 2 maps and people would still find a way to not sustain.
>>507587495ci is the meta because it lets people stack a huge 'life' pool to avoid getting one shot. there is almost no life scaling on the tree, armor doesn't mitigate large hits, eva works until it doesn't, and there are only a handful of phys taken as. natural solution is overflow ci.you would know a fraction of what is going on in the game if you weren't a retarded shitter who thinks getting hardstuck in the campaign is peak gameplay. just look at the slop you are posting lmao.
>>507588061what the fuck are you people doing
>>507580227>have to You'd be completing those maps anyways and you'll be completing maps far beyond that if you actually want to play the game. If you don't want to play the game you don't have to get those points to begin with.
>>507583532CDDA
>>507588074Alcohol, truly an all consuming demon.
>>507588357Based
>>507582773>>507583016>hardcore SSFYou're dumb.
>>507588396It really is very bad for you. It's so strange how our society is centered around it.If you have one drink a day, you're an alcoholic. There are so many people in denial over this fact. Most of these people can't go a week without it. It's crazy how fucked up your liver gets over years just from having one drink a day.
>went bloodmage the day of early release>turns out to be the worst ascendancy in the game>respec'd entire tree three times now and still not enjoying it>can't be bothered to roll another character all the way to mapsI hope bad things to happen to GGG and the PoB dev.
is this shit good?
>>507586615>2k hoursYou should try Anbennar once you get tired of the real world.
>>507588631for a monk leveling yea
>>507588167I'm not a metacuck so I don't get to play the game.
>>507588609bro your detonate dead crit build? does all the content just fine, a "bad" build in poe means you're not instantly wiping out every enemy in a two screen wide radius
>>507586789okay but none of those players will stick around for maps
>>507584107Terrible, those countries sound like they need slavery - ah - freedom!
>>507588550>Relying on uniques>In ssf>Without cards
>>507588158>ci is the meta because it lets people stack a huge 'life' pool to avoid getting one shot. Ah, so it -is- a skill issue. >there is almost no life scaling on the tree,Good. In POE1, this meant that every life-oriented build was virtually forced to include life nodes, severely limiting options.>armor doesn't mitigate large hits,It doesn't mitigate the hits you're not supposed to take.>eva works until it doesn't,Even with evasion having a deliberate "unlucky" mechanic, the mobs around you ought to be blind and hindered before they become a threat. The idea that your layered defenses have shit the bed is a marker of YOU being the "shitter" because, for as much as people complain about POE rigging the numbers against you.. did it ever occur to you that you could rig the numbers against IT? Clearly it hasn't, otherwise you wouldn't be talking all this cash money shit about how your beloved energy shield ocean is just not enough to survive getting oneshot by a telegraphed strike.>you would know a fraction of what is going on in the game if you weren't a retarded shitter who thinks getting hardstuck in the campaign is peak gameplay.Let me guess, heh, YOU got hardstuck in the campaign. Sounds like a you problem.>just look at the slop you are posting lmao.Cope.
>>507588845Uhh bro your MF into chance shards into chance orbs?
>>507588631It becomes good around 2000 STR
>>507588946>skill issueNobody plays PoE to be forced to always be stressed out and full alert paying 100% attention the whole time they are grinding.They turned a fun game into a "difficult" (GGG doesn't understand the difference between difficulty and just being punishing) CBT experience instead.
>>507589027I actually did forget those existed
>>507588946you might be the stupidest person in the thread.>well ya know when i get to tier one maps it's going to be smooth sailing!good for you anon. keep up the good work.
>>507589310The fact that your only way to cope is to caricature me as an idealist who can't get past tier one maps is exactly why I know, not think, that I am right in my assessment here.
>>507583532rogue trader dlc, then if it takes long enough, bg3 patch 8 honour mode
>>507588767>DD>comatose minion gameplay
What bases are worth rolling for uniques?
>>507589169>Nobody plays PoE to be forced to always be stressed out and full alert paying 100% attention the whole time they are grinding.The reason I speak of it being a skill issue is due to what I conceptualize as a triad.Motor Skills & Situational Awareness>How can I react to something that happens?Knowledge>Do I know how the game systems work?Gear>Is my character properly equipped in line with these systems?I would posit that the reason why you see people complain, despite the enormous success of others (as if people are living in two separate universes where POE2 is simultaneously too difficult, and yet in the other just fine) is simply due to a deficiency in one or more of these areas.If you have knowledge, gear, and reflexes, you will never have a problem, and will play 100% in flow mode. Yes, even "listen to podcast while playing" type of flow mode. Your aptitude in all 3 categories will only grow as you continue to play, though it might not happen as fast as you hoped it would happen. Don't give up.
>>507589529the fact that you think 'just roll bro' is a valid answer to delirium or breach in t16+ maps means you haven't done any of that content. people haven't been talking about the act 2 monkee for weeks, time to move on.post your boss atlas and /deaths kek
>takes me millions of tries to kill act one final boss>killed the act 1 boss on my second try as warrior>le warior is so baaaaad thoughHOLY FUCK ARE YOU SERIOUS?
>>507589834stellar for everlasting glaze
>>507590085>learn the boss>boss becomes easierwoah
>>507586789The game is good at the core, and especially Act 1 Normal is overall quite polished. When people complain here, they complain about a series of specific issues, which, altogether suck the enjoyment out of the game.
>>507590153i meant to say that it took me that many tries on my necromancer and only two on my warrior despite necromancer being the more braindead easy class to play
Time to play Warrior and spam perfect strike...
>>507587971Yeah it's bugged (sometimes)Just login again
>>507590004You're simply not prepared for the content you are attempting. I bested Blackjaw before they fixed his over-zealous hit detection. Even when I knew it was clearly overtuned. I didn't complain. Maybe I should have. But I didn't.
>>507590371mace strike*
>>507590332yeah, and it took my one try with any class after the first time I went through
>>507590371take the molten blast pill
>>507590459wrong, you faggots keep saying warrior is bad when necromancer is worse
>>507590332Warriors are seriously busted in the early levels. They get AoE really early on and a good ranged AoE skill. I died so many times in act 1 as a necromancer. Then I tried again as a warrior, didn't die once. Tried again as a sorcerer and I died multiple times.
>>507590405>I bested Blackjawhow about you post your boss atlas tree and your /deaths. we need to see how a real god gaymer does it.
>>507590104only that? man uniques are shit now.
>>507585910The idiots droning on and on about weight and vision actually know what they are doing and how to design a game that is played for thousands of hours instead of one that is played for 30.
>>507586789>There's a reason why players like quin69 are better than players like alkaizer at this game.Nice bait bignose kike.
>>507590402didnt help, bricked map
Shock is so powerful it's unfair. I have some damage converted to lightning and the rare times a mob gets shocked they immediately get deleted.
>>507590460>long windup
Everytime I see anyone defending 1 portal in the ggg forums they dont have achievements for poe1 pinnacle bosses, I wonder why
>>507590539How about you finally acknowledge the underlying premise that you are unwilling to overcome defeat?
>>507586448Whatever you're thinking right now is wrong. Which means that you are wrong. Which means that when you think the game is wrong, then you are wrong and the game isn't because you are wrong and not right. Which you probably don't understand.
>>507590691I'm at t4 maps and I still haven't found a increased shock chance weapon on my sorc. It's so weak.
what is an actual doomie prediction based in reality? that PoE 2 will ONLY have 100k players on steam a year from now or something? Twice as much as PoE 1 ever had?
>>507588594So that's what wrong with the french?
>>507590586only one i know of. there's some belt that's worth trying
>>507588701The fuck has the meta to do with you not picking up maps? Unless you die to the first rare monster 75% of the time, I guess.
>>507588665I'm just waiting for EU5 in all honesty.
skibidi status?
>>507590691>has to shock his rares instead of just one shotting them
How do you go about getting points for those map mechanics above normal atlas? It says stuff like do twisted domain or kill logbook, but I have no idea how do do any of those.
They’re 10000% nerfing Gemling right?
>>507588609>dude trust me>the ascendancy that gives you both amazing offense and defense>is the worst in the game I get that you can't run a bloodmage with everything, but what are you smoking?
>>507590761How do you manage to function lacking so much self awareness jesus why is every defender of this game such a massive faggot like the armor guys who think they know math and get all the numbers wrong or the faggot who posts his incredibly slow campaign clear speed thinking he's impressive for taking 10 seconds a pack
>>507590761why would anyone listen to a shitter who hasn't made it to maps?no one cares that you find the tutorial easy. post your boss atlas tree and your /deaths. you won't because you can't.
>Uhh quincucks??https://streamable.com/x6515r
>>507590972slam es on it
>>507591058Probably not. Everything it breaks tends to be broken on other classes as well even if it's worse on gemling so they'll probably just play whack a mole
I wish I rolled Blood mage. Minion AI is retarded as a shonen protagonist and demon form seems to be shit for no bang.
>>507590972Not good for SCtrade
>>507590935You can play a dwarf done in the mines rebuilding your long lost dwarven empire with fuckhuge mission trees in Anbennar, anon. What's the chances of EU5 having something like that? I'm kinda scared that having to play through the black plague every single time is going to get very old very quickly.
>>507588946>hits you're not supposed to takeI know that you think being a tone deaf retard is trolling, but nevertheless. There is no hit that you are not going to take eventually. You are going to run into a new boss pattern, walk into a barely visible on ground effect, desync, accidentally click a lever, just screw up, you name it. With how many enemies you go through, this will happen every day.
>>507591087I'm petty enough to go and grind the rest of it out right now, deliberately taking your bait just to prove my point AND yours.
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>>507591061Bots are bypassing captcha again.
>>507591434LOL
>>507591294>I'm kinda scared that having to play through the black plague every single time is going to get very old very quickly.I'm hoping that they make the game systems enjoyable enough to where navigating the disaster is actually fun. Massive cope from me I'm sure but there's so many issues I have with EU4 that EU5 is fixing that I can't wait. But it's a paradox game so it will be bricked on release I am sure.
blood mage dark pact have any chance of being decent?
>>507591342Yeah. That's how you improve. Though I agree on desync. Accidentally clicking a lever is just stupidity however.
I think I’m done playing the game until Duelist comes out.
>>507591053you have to basically do the end content for every mechanic to get the points for that mechanic, yes they are not very smart
>>507591434Literally every time. Every single time. This has to be bait at this point right. Why does literally no one defending the game ever have any progress in it
>>507591693Sample size: 1.
Worth to get +1 projectiles bow to shoot 3 projectiles instead of 2? They are crazy expensive currently.Picture related my current shitter
>>507584009>>507584009yeah but all i got to work with is level 59 shit. the bottom row is all base shit. i dont even know whats possible to get more out of this specific level of xbow
>>507589636?you literally just walk forward and blow shit up as it appears on screen, one shot every rare and pack, 90% of the time you're not blowing up your own minions
>>507591506Sold off my fourth Perfect Jeweller's Orb from all the maps I was running. Maybe you'd focus on that instead of farming bosses you're clearly not ready for.>>507591693Because I've been doing other things. I'm petty but I'll never be a faggot clown. Petty enough to go and complete my boss tree just to prove a point. Screenshots are coming, faggots.
>>507591687but how do I do the "end content" for each mechanic? Is there a special condition or a special map or what?
>>507591814Did you miss the week 1 filled with players talking about how good they were and then none of them had reached maps in one week. Literally yesterday we had a guy in this thread defend armor for hours then we found out he didn't understand the math at all and never reached even the sanctum pinnacle
>>507591980ok but where duelist tho
>>507591980kill yourself
>>507591943>I'm petty but I'll never be a faggot clownlmao, you already are
>>507591943>I'll never be a faggot clown.you are literally the biggest faggot clown in the history of /poe2g/, and easy top 10 /poeg/ biggest faggot clowns.
>>507592112Now you're taking MY bait!!!
>>507591961Expendition: normal expedition will drop a Logbook sometines, which can have a bossDelirium: get 300 splinters and clear SimulacrumBreach: get 300 splinters and kill the boss you can enter with itRitual: sometimes (almost never) you will see an invitation on the Ritual rewards, buy it and you can fight King in the mists once with it
>>507591943You're literally the whiniest faggot and the foggiest clown. We can prove it empirically
>>507590697well yeah, you need to invest in a lot of attack speedonce you get there the skill feels great
>>507592250>We can prove it empiricallyPLEASE do. Seriously LMAO I want to see the empirical evidence for this!
>>507591980People who think spamming the exact same thing 278 threads in a row is a personality are kinda tiresome.
CI is meta because grim feast and the insanely overtuned passives allow you to easily stack 10k+ ES when you would have 4k life in the same level of geargrim feast is getting deleted from the game and the passives will be nerfed by 40% or more
>>507591652As you may have noticed some people want to have fun, not "improve". One shots are not fun as well as a bunch of other PoE2 mechanics (honor, huge maps with dead ends, etc).
>>507592262are you using the onslaught helm?
>>507591687i get why they did it, the idea is that you first progress through the normal atlas tree and then the league atlas trees so you dont run out of "content" too quickly. obviously thats fucking retarded because you want to be able to actually juice the league mechanics before having done 20-50 t15 maps with the mechanic. its like needing to wait until 132/132 atlas points before you can spec into league mechanics.
>>507592384good
is this thread still dogshit or have you retards calmed down yet
>>507592434you can buy the fragments at any time and run the content
>>507592248sorry, last question, wtf is a splinter? I only ever got distilled emotions and catalysts from those two. Do they only start dropping at higher map tiers (highest i did was 10 that had a delirium or breach)?
>>507592475Built differently
>>507592174>i-i was only pretending to be retardedebil
>>507592415nah I'm using Death Rush
is there something better than the single filter Neversink has put out? I feel like I'd be enjoying farming a lot more with a good filter
>>507592434Poe2 atlas is also very barebones and by limiting the points by mechanic has very little choice on what to take since you might as well take the best for each, you cant even chose what mechanics you want to run together since there isnt any reliable way to put them on the map
>>507592598yeah, you can get more from the hands that show up in breach, but delirium usually only drops them in higher map level or if a boss spawns
>tfw I might actually have to use artificers orbs and runes to hit res capBros I feel awful right now.
>>507592765>you cant even chose what mechanics you want to run together since there isnt any reliable way to put them on the map
>>507592721are you running avatar of fire? i really should ditch the thrillsteel helm
>>507592954Okay how would you get every tile to roll for example expedition and breach? In poe1 all it would take is the correct atlas points or 2 scarabs
>>507592582if you play trade league, have 1 to 6 spare divine orbs (depending on mechanic) and are strong enough to kill the +0 boss then yeah, you can just do that. thats a dogshit mechanic though, it would really be nice to be able to spec into league mechanics earlier. imagine poe1 if you just couldnt click nodes except for stuff like essence / strongbox / kirac / explicit effect until you kill elder or something. thats dumb.theres also the part where if you are poor, you are heavilty incentivized to just sell the invite instead of progressing your tree. why would you run a nameless king yourself instead of turning the invite into guaranteed gear upgrades? the game is so barebones that it really doesnt need any further gating of content behind endgame progression
>90 hours>starting to get boredDruid when?
we won
>>507592991yeah, though I'm doing a Deadeye version so it's a long path to get therenever did the math on if it was worth to path over there because it's seven travel nodes, but at least there is a jewel on the way going from 60 to 100% conversion is pretty big
so basically you should plan your build around ~75 levels because holy shit leveling gets slow
>>507593385She cute
NOTE TO PLAYERS: Never act emotionally when setting out to achieve your gaming goals. If you set yourself up for frustration, you will be frustrated. If you set out to make a point in a dick measuring contest, your rationality will fly out the window and you will make mistakes that cost you your maps. I just lost 3 maps because I was fueled with pettiness over wanting to win an argument on 4chan. I haven't won that argument yet, but I'm going to. I'm just not there yet. And that's okay. I will be patient and I will win. So will you.
>>50759343190 is fast if you run the right map levels. After that it gets slow
>>507590631He is though. Just shows how dumbed down and casual the game is.
>>507593151clear out the bad layouts and then juice all of the remaining maps with overlapping towersthere should probably just be less tiles on the atlas since bricking one doesnt mean youre permanently cut off from that path forever anymore so>>507593237running keyed content has always been a gamble/investmentkilling xoth makes all of your breach maps better forever
>>507593237if its any of the new bosses you also have to research all of its mechanics before attempting it or you risk getting oneshot by something you have never seen and wasting everything you used on getting the invitation
>>507593431How many points do you have at 75 with the bonus specialization books?
>>507593602you can OVERLAP towers???
>>507589962nah im out this game is dildos i'll check back when they do the first challenge league.
>>507593659jesus christ you people are helpless
>>507593602okay so if I want to run a mechanic in poe1 I only need to put some points into atlas and I can run it every map, however if I want to do it in poe2 I need to autistically waste time using T1 maps to advance and clear out bad layout while looking for a desirable spoit with overlapping towers so I can run it for about 10 maps (if lucky) before I need to do it all over again.You dont see how this is stupid and pointless?
>>507582048>>507580462
>>507593805turbo troon game list
do we not have a fucking search bar on the map nodes?
>>507593836The fact that you think you should bet running T1 maps tells me you aren't worth arguing with.
finally found one of these fucking things
>>507593836>there should probably just be less tiles on the atlas since bricking one doesnt mean youre permanently cut off from that path forever anymore>there should probably just be less tiles on the atlas since bricking one doesnt mean youre permanently cut off from that path forever anymore>there should probably just be less tiles on the atlas since bricking one doesnt mean youre permanently cut off from that path forever anymorei suspect the density of tiles is because they didnt want bricking your map to be easy and the getting to rerun a map youve failed change was very late in development and they didnt change the atlas generation formula afterwardsthey should lower the density of tiles so that you dont have to run a bunch of garbage to make your tablets more efficient
>>507593805>dildosyeah I'm sure you're experienced in those fag.
>>507594054why would I waste my juiced maps on bad nodes when I can just use a shitty T1 and run straight for the rares while ignoring everything so I can get to good spots faster?
>>507593385Did she really go Acolyte of Chud?
Let's fucking gooo
do ritual and breach still pause the delirium mist like in poe1?
>>507594220yes
>>507594318I think ritual does, not sure about breach
>>507594329rip
>>507594294What does this do?
Finally finished campaign and ran first map.I'm off to level another character because this was a fucking pain in the ass to play.
what are tiers on rares?
>>507594451you did it anon im proud of you
>>507594451>ran first map>maps 0/10
>>507592690>>507593529>>507591506Give me a name I can call out in a future /poe2g/ thread so that I can inform you of my progress. I am going to defeat these bosses just to prove to you that it is YOUR skill issue and not the game itself holding you back. We'll see who the real whiny faggot is! But I need to be able to say, "Hey Faggot69Asslicker remember our Christmas convo?" So what is a name I can use?
>>507594391>pick what sounds cool and roll with itpeak vision desu.
>>507591980>>507592024Doolist is shit anyway because slayer is gone.
>>507594572He said he ran it, not that he succeeded.
>>507593602invites being a gamble for drops is fineinvites putting a 5-30 divine barrier of entry for effectively doing a league mechanic is not fineleague mechanic atlas points are also slow as fuck to get in ssf, like the mode wasnt already bad enoughif they want to keep the current system they should just have mechanics drop quest versions of their invites which give the points. if you look really closely you will realize that thats exactly what poe1 does for the early progression invites because its not a shit ass game made by retards.
Anyone have a retard guides for lootfilters.I just wanna highlight specific white basetypes and everything else I don't care about.
>>507594572i was almost done but last rare shit out frost rings while i was shooting ice wall and of course i died
>tfw spark stormweaver and looking at the gameplay of other "good" builds
>>507594451>5 days>170 deaths>finally ran a first mapkek
>mathil build with 20k ESthis shit is getting GUTTED in the january patch
>>507594405All mods are tier4 minimum when identified
>>507584448>3 minuteslie more empyrean
>>507594793niggas be like >dude the game has been out for 3 weeks, nobody is playing the campaign still, all of those players are mapping right now and loving it
>>507594709just edit it on filterblade
>>507594793well yeah,unfortunately i had to interact with the game because it seems to me it was balanced around mercenary and these skillsin particular although my tree is probably shit but eh i can live with it
SSF bros, how do you efficiently farm this up? I'm trying to get an Oaksworn, but maybe just chancing it is the best play
>>507595035try killing unique monsters i hear that helps
>>507592690>>507591506>>507594580Please respond.
>>507595035alva in the niggurat encampment (the one with the map device) has infinite gamba stockbut you should also highlight the base if white and chance it
>>507595182Was hoping I could get away with doing it in act 1 since it's way cheaper, and there's only 2 possible bases at low level, oh well. Hopefully they let us have a gambler in the hideout soon.
>>507594919whats funny is that with this kind of playtime you would be approaching or already at absolute endgame with mageblood and shit in poe1. and thats with the assumption that /poeg/ poster is probably above average poe player.
>>507595035i was too poor on my first character, second character i wasted like 600k on trash. i just use gold on the endgame gamble now. all my upgrades are ground, either id/slam or trans/aug/regal.
>>507585926Bro I got chain stunned to death. Lost 5 t12 maps that way. Being 1 hp sucks.
Anons, how the fuck can I tell if my charm is charged or not?
>mfw Delirium bugs out and lasts forever
>>507595685hover over it, but other than that you cant see shit
>>507595402its the same in poe2, most people are just very slow. you could very easily fullclear poe2 ssf in 5 days /played if it wasnt so stupidly slow to get the boss invites.
>>507593529no, i'll go play a different game. my goal was to enjoy my free time playing a video game and i'm not getting that.if you're going to make a diablo 2 clone, you need to remember that people HATED doing acts and generally did not want to interact with anything that wasn't>MFing>Trading>Duelingthis game desperately needs something akin to mephisto/pindle/etc. for basic boss MFing and a spammable teleport skill to allow players to skip gay shit.trading is fine.pvp is nonexistent.poe2 is failing as a d2 clone. it only hits the most basic notes and doesn't have any of the shit that got people hooked on d2 20 years ago. they should have stuck with the poe1 formula instead of wilson's vision of the diablo 2 clone he wanted all along.
Am I going crazy or are people really saying PoE 2 is more casual because it's missing like 60% of the release content. Yeah man, of course crafting is undercooked, it doesn't have Harvest, Betrayal, Beastcrafting, Heist bases, and a bunch of other random stuff.>but it's a sequel, it should literally just be Path of Exile 1 except with even more powercreep!terrible opinion
>>507595715just like irl
>>507595737>but other than that you cant see shitwhat the fuck were they thinking
>>507595715>tfw you die and lose all loot
>>507595685they forgot the make an indicator for its charge count, early access game please understand it will be fixed for the full release and you should honestly kill yourself for expecting them to have already implemented it
>>507594318Delirium feels so bugged right not that I'm not sure it's possible to discern any sort of rules. Half of the time it covers 75% of the map and then completely freezes.
when is the next stash tab sale? i missed the first one
idk about u guys but those ritual stags scare me more than any other normal mob in the game
>>507595865why would they make essences worse on purpose
>>507578915>still playing the league 1 month in couldn't be me. idc new game
>>507596027in like 2 weeks
>>507596027the good tabs dont work anyway
>>507596063because the content in the game is already easy enough to complete with literal rares you pick off the floor
>>507595865yeah, the fact that it doesnt have any complicated content or mechanics does make it more casual. is that not obviously true?nobody is saying that it should have every mechanic from poe1, in fact most people are unhappy that they copied so much from poe1.
>>507595793Two more points!
>>507582735It's the fucking hunting grounds in act 1 normal, i have as much armor as you can reasonably have at that point.>>507579659>Earthquake(just the initial small hit)By the way, i hope you're not implying that that initial hit of Earthquake is enough to prime for stun, because it absolutely isn't, even with as many stun buildup notes as you can have at that level.
>>507595793>this game desperately needs something akin to mephisto/pindle/etc.thats what maps are for. if you hit a wall poe2 during the campaign you can just pick a zone you like and farm it, all zones have unique bosses and decent density.
>>507595793poe1 is the diablo clone and it had everything aside from pvp unless you also count cutthroat and the arena.speaking of pvp its kind of funny how nobody seems to care about pvp these days. it used to be fairly active in poe1 back in the day and it slowly just disappeared with time.
>>507596232the same could be argued about poe1 yet there is better crafting so thats not an argument
>>507587751go stampede explosion maxing, it's fun
When the fuark am I supposed to run into one of these citadelsI'm level 91 now
>>507596338>>507595793I'm so sad to hear you're not enjoying this amazing and fun game! Meanwhile, the boss tree grows two skills higher!
>>507596498I'm 94 and yet to see one, I have given up on it by now
>>507595865ruthless = tutorial mode(confirmed by chris)poe2 = ruthless
>>507596271just saying it would be like dooming during poe 1 beta
>>507596498you know how to optimally run the atlas mechanic, right? rush the towers, put in tablets and then run the juiced maps around the towers? right? with t15 / t16 juiced waystones, right?if you want to get citadels you have to do the exact opposite. you have to beeline 1 direction with t1 maps until you find them. yeah
>3 stone citadels in 2 screens harvest swap fucking when
This namefag nigga really having a full on sperg meltdown on Christmas lmaooooo
>install loot filter>first ever fucking precursor tablet in ~100 maps dropshuh
>>507579081what skills are you using? once you shock, electrocute and freeze enough with your ice strike and charged staff and bell you charge avatar mode a lot quicker and you should respec to it.for power charges get the "combat frenzy" spirit aura and the nodes that transform them into power charges in the tree. if you dont go for ailments but crits first get the cast on crit stuff in the tree but you really want to freeze and electrocute stuff as its also a powerful defense layer
>>507596796just be grateful hes using a name now
so what does breach ring actually do? Does quality affect all the stats on it or are there some chase stats?
do certain uniques have a specific way to be obtained or is it all random
>>507596796poe2 is the gift that keeps on giving.
>completing this trial will reward you ascendencyso that was a lie.
>>507596796Oh joy! I can spec into the map bosses being a lvl higher so that I can complete my boss tree (req lvl 79 zones) even easier!
>>507596027Every 3 weeks.
>>507596979temporalisyou need to do a lvl80+ 4 floor sekhama without taking a single point of damage
>>507597080Wrong. Completing -any- trial in life will result in your ascension. Never ever forget that.
>>507596979Big bosses have their own uniques.
>>507596396>poe1 is the diablo clonepoe1 is an entirely different game.poe2 is literally all 4 diablo games stuffed into a poe suit. were you really not able to sense that halfway through act 1? it's just straight ripped from diablo 3.>act 2 desert land with the imprisoned ancient in the forgotten tomb and some bullshit you have to piece together to get to the last boss.>act 3 jungle complete with flayers, travincal, and the durance of hate.the act 4 karui shit is going to be set in a goddamn volcano. act 5 is going to be in snowy mountains and act 6 is going to be in fucking kalguur. watch.
>wake up>load up titan warrior>open t12+ maps>die to oneshots constantly>lose all my top maps>rage quit>repeat next dayMakes me want to kill myself. I got all resists capped and chaos charm for safety and still get randomly one-shot by some bullshit. Maybe I need to up my hp, I'm level 84 with 2.7k hp and still getting one-shot in maps with monsters 5+ levels lower than me. I can clear screens but then boom, randomly dead. Just complete bullshit, man.
>>507596434what does the passive and skill setup for this look like
>>507597331nigga you can't be upset about the story of an arpg you aren't meant to actually pay attention to that
lmao
>>507597394put on the dress, sissy titan
>>507597432Honestly the PoE2 characters suck and don't really stand out at all. For a company that has survived for years off of its writing, characters, and voice-acting it's a big disappointment
Why is chaos resist so fucking rare?
https://streamable.com/sm7p4whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiylvmFI_8
Is there an easy way to get frenzy charges on a caster?
>>507597394>2.7kwtf are you doing
>>507597581feel the weight exile
>>507597394just uninstall for now and wait til the games actually finished. you're wasting your time for nothing, man.
>>507594073this thing is actually kind of fucking shit desu
>>507597574>writing, characters, and voice actingi've never heard a voice line in poe 1
>>507597586That move is 100% bullshit
>>507597441h-hayai!
you faggots can't stop me
its funny having 100 more IQ than all other warriors and just having a fast clearing weapon swap and a bossing weapon swap and not dying in the last like... fifty juiced T15s
>>507579081I feel like you're going to want to spec into defense a bit. T15s get pretty rowdy. You're already close to a couple decent options >>507579563I was trying to find the answer to a question I had the other day and ended up on that subreddit. Holy fuck are those people retarded. Half of the posts were people showing off their dogshit equipment rolls that had +light radius or thorns. Actual dump tab tier shit. I knew reddit was bad but I didn't think it was that full of normalfags.>>507579671>>507580227Retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henLgTe4ZtkOH NO NO NO
>>507597581My running theory is that they didn't intend endgame to be such a chaos damage clownfiesta at first and changed it down the line.>>507597759I am genuinely disappointed in you.
>>507597759the absolute stat of cad
>>507597725The VA is like 80% of the reason to play it you are a crazy person
>>507597581because chaos damage used to be very very rare and new ggg hires didnt get the memo that it was supposed to be nonessential stat
>>507597418https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEmFiD7vag
>>507597581its kind of a holdover from old poe 1 they just never changed. it was a niche stat, then around betrayal league it started to become a main stat but they never updated it's affix weight or rolls.
>>507597729yeah bro why does it have to be so easy for rangedi might just do SSF softcore so i can actually get to maps. ive died so many times without getting past act 3
>>507597759buy a mirror, pussy
>>507597834FUCK YOU
>>507597725youre missing out, the poe1 voice acting is pure unfiltered kino. its top tier.
>>507597725E V E R L A S T I N G F I R E
CLOWN ALERTMIDGET DOWNhttps://www.twitch.tv/quin69/clip/BlindingFaithfulWalrusPJSalt-a3sLI_z6iUabe0FK
>>507597441>teleports behind you
>>507598026>he actually did it
>>507597826please, spare the warriors, they're already dead
>>507595865There's literally no alteration orbs
>>507597586>the fastest move is also the deadliest movelmao
>>507597826This is a problem they can fix with a simple number tweak like they did in PoE 1. It's a nonproblem.
>>507598053lol i assume he had the traps do more damage affliction.
WTF are these unkillable shits.
Why are they so fucking stupid why does crafting have to be so fucking nonexistent
>>507597826>armor is a jokereminder that this faggot got determination/grace deleted because it was "too good"
>>507597927its not a holdover from poe1, they changed it completely in poe2. poe2 doesnt have the -60% penalty but its amethyst rings are gutted and theres no betrayal hybrid crafts, so its much harder to cap.
>>507597759I don't want to stop you, fren. I'm just disappointed.
Charms are just an abject failure right? There's no way this shit ass system makes it into full release right?
>>507594962Nice one smartarse
>>507598186just play tradecore bro, this game isnt for SSF yet/ever
>>507598053KEK
>>507598053what the fuck just happened, i have never seen that
>>507598151So we're just going to pretend alting a blue 2000 times for a single low weight mod is good gameplay now. Be serious.
>>507598406he ran out of time on the crystal things room
>>507597927>then around betrayal leagueincursion league. i still remember how people with -60chaos were seething about getting exploded by constructs the instant they stepped into incursion.
Was there some kinda update in the last 12 hours that broke the game or something? Was working fine last night but now I can barely get past character select without the game crashing.
>>507598462ITS BETTER THAN PICKING UP 2000 WHITE ITEMS AND TRANSMUTING THEM FOR THE SAME RESULT, YEAH?
>>507598406the room where you have to click the crystals before the time runs out. thats what happens when the time runs out.>>507598558i lost like 4 characters to those shotgunning snakes lol good times.
>>507598558I still do sometimes
>>507597574True, but some characters are alright. I liked having Alva around.
>>507598167they never fixed armor in poe1 they just slapped a bunch of band aids on it, its no surprise that ripping all of the band aids off for poe2 put it back in the shitter AND they also seemingly nerfed armor independent of removing all of the mechanics that made it even slightly usableall around baffling>>507598195auras that do nothing but +stat are absolute garbage and should not be in the gameif you want stats on your character it should come from gear + passives
>>507597903Nice ty
>>507597826they wont buff armor, at best they'll nerf cloak of flame HARD.here's the thing - physical damage from normal mobs that isnt meant to be dodged is completely fine with current armorphysical damage that is meant to be dodged is also fine because its meant to FUCKING KILL YOU.him using xesht4 slams as an example is literal retardation
>>507598756Alva is definitely the highlight
>>507598771>they never fixed armor in poe1 they just slapped a bunch of band aids on itthey literally changed armor damage mitigation formula newfren
Proximal Tangibility, Magma Barrier and Volatiles is a cringe combo and I want to die.
>>507598679>thats what happens when the time runs outyou are supposed start losing hp and honour
bros how bad is trade as a non-sweat? Am i better off just going SSF ?
>>507598643>ITS BETTER THAN PICKING UP 2000 WHITE ITEMS AND TRANSMUTING THEM FOR THE SAME RESULT, YEAH?be serious
>>507598982so you can build just armor and survive the biggest physical hits in the game now?
>>507598643`well...yes? all ground items have more value in poe2 because you cant just alt spam regal bench spam perfect items from a single base.
>>507599067SSF is cbt
>>507599067ssf is the sweatmode lol
>>507599067you dont get enhanced drops from SSF, going SSF is an act of self-flagellation
When do Shockwave Totems start dealing damage?
>>507599067whats the difference in playing SSF or playing trade and just not trading if you dont want to?
>>507598771it was a LITERAL number tweak in poe 1 lmao
>>507599067do you want to play the game or optimize your DIV/h like a chink bot
>>507599067There's literally no advantage to playing SSF. In trade you can buy basic shit for an exalt or two and start running maps. Also the campaign has nearly-guaranteed exalt drops, don't waste them
>>507599185When you equip maces with ~6+ levels to melee skills.
>>507599067you can get very decent gear 1 ex each in trade, for which you'd need a lot of exes each in ssf
>>507597834Is this why they added fucking ritual in Act 1?
>>507599149wtf is cbt
>>507598982uh yeah because poe1 physical damage got insanely out of hand. poe2 mobs do like 20% the physical damage of a poe1 mob
>roll slam>roll slam>roll slam>roll slamwhen does it get good, mace bros?
>>507599105yes? you can brush off things like shaper slam pretty easily with just armor.
>>507599276>and damage conversion>and endurance charges>and fortify
I actually like picking up items off the floor and having them sometimes be like 10ex to 1d
>>507599353closed beta testcock and balls torture
>>507599067ssf is boring as fuck once your gear reaches a certain point because theres no crafting in the game and you have to id hundreds (if not thousands) of items to get an upgradetrade economy is fucked and your progression will be weird as fuck if you start this late into the leaguepick your poison
>>507599424What are you even saying? Armor went from unusable to usable in one change. They didn't change how endurance charges or how damage conversion worked. People also largely did not use nufortify.
Carn is currently rank 2 in the SSF ladderHe still hasn't completed a single simulacrumHe's sitting around 230 splinters
>>507599419It doesn't. It fact, the whole game is bad.
is this a meme?
>>507599383wrong. armor was completely useless before they changed the formula, even aegis was a meme back then.
>>507599449thanks e
>>507599681No it's OP
>>507599681You need to have at least 70% evasion before you take this node, then it kinda works
>>507578915>the easiest way and absolutely best way to get loot is to just buy it off the chinksPEAK ARPG DESIGN, GG GGG!
>>507599319I only have +3.I'm in act 3.
>>507599681No it's actually insane IF you have the evasion to support itYou know those on death effects that kill everybody? This protects you from them.
>>507599270the only reasons to play SSF are:>you know how to play/grind the game really well and prefer to interface with all of the game's systems rather than bypassing most of them by having poorfags do them for you>you are autistic and fear interacting with others/you suffer from constant stock dreads any time you pull up the trade screen and find out that your (currency) price just went down 50%>you prefer to grind everything out yourself
>>507599742Sir this is the PoE1 beta
>>507599742The drops are literally designed around trade
>>507597826>Turns out I was wrong>It was much worsehhAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Is it worth to get +1 arrow bow?My current bow is 324pdps and I could get similar dps with +1 arrow for 2div
>>507599067ssf is exalt slam and pray for upgrade.
>>507598957well yeah, she's from PoE1
>>507599835does it? i'd agree vs multiple effects but every clip i see of a deadeye or something is of them dying to one single ground explosion
Sorcery ward
I'M ROOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIINNNNNNGGGG
>>507586448the trial token needs to be 60+ to even grant the points
>>507599067Look at this general and see if tradies are the people you want to associate with.
>forced to spend hours trading for gear instead of farmingShit game.
based Jung exposing these "boss designers"
Reddit got this from 1 map, can you do better?
4chan ggg leaker was right. this WAS a cash grab. literally every system is a step-backward from poe1 - which was in its best state ever before being neglected from august till now and beyond. Game is buttcheeks
>>507600337play SSF and grind for dozens of hours for gear that is 1/10th as good as the stuff you get from trading for 1 ex. it's much more satisfying (unironically ((if you're autistic (you are if you're posting here bro)))
>>507599874I mean I get the challenge but you can just do it in trade by choosing not to buy the items, you could argue being SSF puts the restriction on for you if you are weak-willed but then you can also just migrate if thats the case anyway so is it really a restriction?
>>507600471people were seething at this post but 9 divines from a high investment map that required a ton of juice is kinda nothing compared to the wealth disparity in poe 1 lmao
maps boring
what should i be using orbs of chance on? amulets? rings? any type in particular?
>>507600529i thought you couldn't migrate in poe2
Last epoch won
>>507600471No
>>507600476I wonder if he's still hereCan someone post the screencap of his posts
>>507600692who?
>>507600563redditors will always talk about how unfair it is that meta builds can make X money and they can't even make a single exalt and they don't even take a single minute to learn how to juice anything to begin with
>>507600663just put this on the top of your filterShow Rarity Normal BaseType "Stellar Amulet" "Sapphire Ring" "Heavy Belt" "Emerald Ring" "Gold Ring" "Azure Amulet" SetFontSize 45 SetTextColor 255 0 0 255 SetBorderColor 255 0 0 255 SetBackgroundColor 255 255 255 255 PlayEffect Red MinimapIcon 0 Red Star
>>507600667you can, they just had to disable it temporarily because of a bug
>>507590460>Melee
>>507600882>redditors will always talk about how unfair it is that meta builds can make X moneythat happens here and it happens all the time you site war tween faggot it even happens in poeg global chat you dumb ass piece of shit fucking kill yourself and stop being obsessed with reddit
Take a second to break down just how retarded "everyone should be equally rewarded no matter what you do, how do you do it, or what build you use" actually would be in practice
>>507600476why the fuck would they launch the game with a decade worth of content and powercreep? excluding poe 1, there is more endgame content in poo 2 than every other arpg.
>>507599010He lost some HP didn't he.
>>507601069Only chinese bots defend MF, kill yourself.
>>507599738you mean 170%
>>507601043a lot of poeggers are redditors too
>>507601069This is unironically Last Sleepoch lmao
>>507599010I think it says the remaining crystals explode, dealing damage
>>507600476It's so funny when they didn't bother porting simple UI improvements made in 3.25 like ctrl right click to send every currency of one type to stash.
poo 1 players are still under the delusion that anyone who has touched path of exile 2 would ever prefer poo 1 lmao
>>507599681no. have 12k+ evade and you'll have 70% evade chance after you take it. it's strong ONLY if you have 12k-15k evade
>>507600882Well it is unfair that rangers and spellcasters can fill their prefixes and suffixes with increased item rarity because they get their defense layers more or less for free and have a smorgasbord of busted damage mechanisms to pick from which require little to no investment.
>>507601170>there is more endgame content in poo 2 than every other arpgyeah and it sucks
>>507601624yet here you are talking about a game you hate on christmas lmao
Monster damage scale way too hard and monster toughness doesn't scale nearly as much it should, greatly incentivizing one shot the whole screen gameplay. This is a problem.
>>507599874These are all reasons not to trade. Which you can do without going SSF.Do SSF chads at least not have to see players in the hubs?
>>507601170>there is more endgame content in poo 2 than every other arpg.is that why every time i get to maps i'm bored out of my fucking mind because it's so boring and nothing to do so i'm forced to make a new character?
40 minutes of farming Keth.Zero (0) Silk Robes.
>>507598184>proximal tangibilityToo high IQ game for me.
>>507601618is it also unfair that they get one shot every couple maps and make a complaint post?
>>507601778You do have to see players in hubs. I don't know if just SSF players, but they are there.
>>507601780>instead of quitting the game, he makes a new characterholy mazed
>>507601762this is literally just a problem with the current overtuned skills. once the big nerf patch hits it should be better balanced
Why didn't they just make poe2 good?
>>507601762Mobs are just overtuned, a group of crossbow mercs will instantly fire squad you if you don't instagib them, same for Vile Vulture slams and so on
I wonder who will ultimately win out. The people who go "the endgame is too much like poe 1, make it slower like poe 2 campaign!!" or people who go "the endgame is not comfy enough, make player characters more powerful like poe1!!"
>>507601874Probably. I mean when one half of the classes are walking around with 15k ES and MOM etc etc with middling gear and the other half spending multiple divs to get half that, and the ones with 15k ES also get to kill rares from a screen away while the 6k HP on a good day characters have to walk up to the rare with "deletes your character and wipes your hard drive on death" and bonk it in the face. And even if the ES character gets lazy and wanders into an ondeath, has all the mobility to get the fuck out of it while the 6k HP character has to book a shield charge two weeks in advance. It does start feeling a bit unfair.
The only good thing about PoE2 is WASD movement.
>>507602413I'm tempted to hook up a controller and go back to Poe1.
Does anyone ever acknowledge just how utterly unbalanced Diablo 2's endgame build meta is? It is weird that it has become this widely beloved game and it's arguably way way worse than PoE 1 ever was. It's basically just Pitzerker and Lite Sorc
de waven aways outsmawts the wum
>>507602149poe3 will fix it
>chink characters in the trade boxLET ME OUT OF THIS NEVERENDING HELL.
>>507602149Because every decision in this game was dominated by a central dogma (frequently "because that's how D2 did it") that they weren't allowed to deviate and they had to bend every secondary decision around.For example, the central dogma for crafting was "We want basic crafting currency to be always relevant" and sure they succeeded in that with the drawback of basically killing crafting in this game.
>>507602481I always played Poe2 for the environment, music, just how damn comfy it was. People who played it for the grinding kind of seem like aliens to me.But my necro always got by really well. I can't remember what I got up to though, I think it was the third playthrough before I got distracted and stopped playing.
>>507602225I wouldn't mind the game as a whole being more slow and methodical, with armor and combo skills actually mattering, but you can't have that with crackhead enemies that charge at you like a suicidal terrorist on crack.
>>507602481Cope
>>507602551ssfGODs win again
>>507602592Which is funny because mechanically augs and transmutes are actually LESS relevant and effective in crafting than PoE1
>>507601762Mobs ARE too tough and need the nerfhammer, its just that certain skills are overtuned as well.An average build suck a dick against white trash.
>start looking at amulet anoints for my new build>distilled isolation prices
>>507589169>Nobody plays PoE to be forced to always be stressed out and full alert paying 100%if you feel the need to focus 24/7 while playing poe2 you might just need to realize that youre not very good at video games
>>507602063yeah balanced around having no players
>>507602481There was much less of an overall focus on endgame back in the day when Diablo 2 was relevant. Sure it ended up that the majority of time spent playing Diablo 2 was in the endgame, but that wasn't the focus of the more widespread gaming community which concentrated more on the campaign and some bossing runs.MFing for gear was something few people actually truly understood in terms of how much better it was than just regularly playing the game. There wasn't a popular forum where people could go "Look at all my loot!" and have thousands of eyes on it, so people didn't grow as envious. Also dupes ruined the economy so no one even cared.
>>507602768refer to>>507599592
>>507601762>Wow this is really punishing and attempting to mitigate damage is like rolling a boulder up hill, I suppose I must invest everything into damage so that mobs aren't alive for long enough to pose a threat>Hm, players are investing everything in damage, I suppose I will tune the mobs to be more dangerous so that players must invest more into defense>Wow this is really punishing and attempting to mitigate damage (etc etc)I think there is a really silly cycle going on between players and developers largely born out of developers misunderstanding why players build the builds they build.
How do we fix PoE2
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/jqn0K0bIX here's a guy abusing the rollback glitch to make perfect items. if you add him he goes offline constantly
>>507602713this game has a better foundation to build a complex crafting system on top of. poe 1 crafting was shit for years, and it's still shit unless you are crafting with fractures and essence. alt spam is gay, it's not a good system.
>hey guys, there is this really neat glitch that lets you farm some mini-boss super fast for lots of currency, let's all do it!>...>wtf why is the economy fucked????
>>507603138make it PoE1 but better looking
map badarmor badportal limit badwarpstone sustain badno cyclone badascending bad
>>507598643yes 1000000000% better and i'm convinced people that think otherwise have never actually interacted with crafting in poe and just buy everything. i would agree there should be a way to use the same base a couple times maybe having some kind of system where the item poofs after too many reroll attemps, but anything is better than alt spamming. theres a reason the default was farming fractured bases and essence spamming, people only recommended alt spamming with a big disclaimer that it's hell on earth. crafting will get better as the half finished game gets finished.
>>507603326If poe1 is so good then why doesn't it have a general on /vg/?
alva sweat good
>>507602592D2 has better crafting than this game and gear in general. For a game that is more gear reliant than any other ARPG, gear is fucking boring especially compared to PoE 1. I have no incentive to even play this game when the gameplay loop revolves solely around having ex or divs drop so you can buy an overpriced piece of uninteresting gear. I'm impressed by how spiteful and boring the entire game is and even more impressed by spergs on here pretending it's not worse than PoE 1 in every way.
>>507603429its on holiday vacation
>>507602592>dominated by a central dogma (frequently "because that's how D2 did it")You retards are way too in love with this talking point for how obviously wrong it is.
>>507603429it doesn't need pajeets that start thread wars so we post about it here
>>507597826>another video RAPING poo2FUARKING B-B-BASED
>>507603429BECAUSE THE WORLD IS GARBAGE
>>507603280it's legitimately saddening that people think poe 1 crafting is "good" just because it's more powerful than poe 2 crafting. I have to share a game with people that stupid.
>>507603508yeah D2 crafting is fucking INSANE bro you can uhh........ pgem reroll...... and....... i think i made one of those 80% dmg exceptional polearms for a merc with that belt + diamond recipe once...... and there's crafted caster rings i guess
>>507603508>D2 has better crafting than this gamelolgoing to go out on a limb and assume you've never crafted in d2. and no, runewords aren't crafting.
theres no fun buildsnothing else comes close to archmage clear and tankyou have to stack 300% rarity to get income which means your build has to be metathis game is dogshit
>>507595661There's literally a support gem to start ES charge on stun. Actual skill issue.
>>507600657always were
>>507603603This might be the worst take I've read in these generals. Congrats.
>>507603138Scrap it. Fire the retarded kiwi devs. Replace them with tencent chinks.
>>507603603its not good, but it's better
I think I’m done playing the game until Harvest is added.
>>507602481Yeah, the excessive nostalgia for it is a bit weird and I generally feel like the people who are praising it to high heavens never properly played the game as a 1000+ hour kind of game. Diablo 2 was great at the time, but it just doesn't have enough meat on its bones to compare and when you break it down into its parts then most of them aren't all that special.
I dont remember roll existing in D2I dont remember getting gangraped by the gang of white trash mobs with every class who isnt sorc in D2I dont remember items having such a massive impact on my power with attributes and skills having such a miniscule impact on my power in D2I dont remember getting my loot stolen on death in D2I dont remember getting my 'map' taken away on death in D2
>>507603839True but then again D2 is good. PoE2? Bad.
>>507603678I like how you Poo 2 eaters hyperfocus on one line instead of disputing how awful the entire gameplay loop is.
ANY of these crafting systems would be fine if there were more interesting and useful affixes.Here is the modifier pool for 2h maces. You can pick three from the left and three from the right. How many combinations of these would be exciting?By process of elimination, there is exactly one combination of prefixes I want on this thing. And for suffixes; two maybe three combinations.That's awful. What's the point of randomized loot if the only thing I want is basically almost exactly one permutation of the randomization.
>>507603839>>507603913wtf??? BASED
>>507603508>the gameplay loop revolves solely around having ex or divs drop so you can buy an overpriced piece of uninteresting gearthats literally poe1 too
>>507603309You wouldn't think that this was a big deal if you actually played the game.
>>507602481D2 doesn't really have an endgame, you kinda just farm shit to perfect your character and thats it there is no real challenge to overcome like poe uber. the game is amazing and has really good itemization which is why GGG is so autistic about it
>>507603508why don't you just you know, not trade?
>>507596396pvp is retarded shoved into every game. go play a moba or shooter if you want pvp.
guys kripp said armor is badDO NOT INVEST INTO ARMORDO NOT USE BLACKBRAID AND HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF A 500k ARMOR PRENERF JUGG WHILE MAPPING
>>507603836I've played hundreds of hours of D2R this year and could play it for hundreds more. Getting uniques and high runes to drop in offline play is a bigger dopamine hit than anything in Poo 2. I have zero desire to play Poop of Excrement 2 and it was my most hyped game of the year.
>>507603967the gameplay loop is pretty similar to d2 so what point do you think you are making? >i hunt for good bases to craft with>once i get my good base i use a few crafting items on them to try to get a good itemwhat game?
>>507604209I don't need armor if I don't get hit.
>>507596796The tree grows 2 skills higher. Ready to concede that you're just making excuses for being incompetent?
>>507604209>44k armorkek
>>507604209correct
>>507604209>A leveling unique is mandatory for armor stackersGrim
>>507604209>dies to chaos damage white mob
>>507603508>D2 has better crafting than this game and gear in generalwhen will this thread become normal again, when the game official launches? there is no way this is a real fucking post i am reading holy FUFCK
>>507604209You are already dead
>>507604209>guiiiis kripp is a dum dum look at wut im doin! uhhh ye dats what kripp said in his video but uhhh SHUT UP
poe2 dogshit
>>507604172Because the crafting system is barebones AF and the entire gameplay loop is balanced around trade. Why would I intentionally gimp myself in a game with garbage loot already when characters are more loot dependent than ever? I would rather quit and play literally any other ARPG. Last Epoch, a game made by redditors, has a more interesting gameplay loop than PoE 2.
>>507597826I realized that shit through the invoker node. A waste of perfectly good evasion. Meditate is unironically a better choice for bosses.
>>507604209*gets hit by a single ele as extra mod *
Is there a way to check what venom you take from Servi? I'm 95% sure I left it to come claim back later but the option disappeared after time travelling.
>>507604317nice! only took 3 weeks to beat a t16 map boss.
>>507604448>the entire gameplay loop is balanced around tradeyou are retarded
>>507604209>44khow
>>507597759Lol fucking retard. Go for it, idiot.
>>507604209So what is going to happen if you get hit by elemental or chaos damage?>In before gets one shotted even with 75% res
>>507603413i only play ssf, you might be the trade mazer if you think that alt spamming is the only crafting method in poe1
>>507604587It tells you if you hover over the drought in the crypts iirc
>>507604394You will never have a "normal thread" tencent chink. People see how shitty this game is and rightfully shit all over it. Saying D2 has a better crafting system and more interesting gear isn't a praise of D2, it's shitting on this god awful game. Seethe and dilate. This game is worse than PoE 1 in nearly every facet. Obfuscate that all you want and nitpick posts to sound smart, but you can't change the truth.
People playing SSF to avoid feeling envious of other people. This is actually straight up insanity to me. Just don't trade if you don't want to? Why do you need a game mode to force you to do it lmao
>>507604209Your only deaths while mapping come from like 3-4 ice/lightning explosions overlapping
influx of comically bad players on xmas. yall got this game as a present? im jealous, i had to buy it.
>>507604669did you just not read the rest of my post or what, also i'm literally playing SSF right now
>>507604512the fuck is wrong with this creature?
>>507604645You are a lying brownoid
>>507604691the game has half it's content missing comparing it to a game with a decade+ worth of powercreep isn't very smart. it's just a telltale sign of someone that started post delve or something
>>507604209I'd love to see you hit this number without a chest piece
He's actually right. The problem with MF is that it's too easy to MF. A lot of redditors won't understand this. They actually think the game is too HARD.
>people are starting to quit
>>507604319yes? jugg was broken with 8% armor applies to elemental and we get a full 100%>>507604339and a ring with no stats is mandatory for ES characters, whats new>>507604347chaos damage is irrelevant at 75% resist>>507604402i facetank 40 pen maps, but keep telling yourself that>>507604529ele as extra does literally nothing>>507604651take 2 armor wheels>>507604668>what is blackbraid
>Silver Charm doesn't work against the time faggot gimmickexplain this niGGGer
>>507598195Are you ignoring that bases got massively buffed to compensate? Trickster is more broken than ever because of it.
>>507605009>the problem with the stat that already rewards meta builds is that it doesn't punish all other builds Outstanding.
How do I run a meta build IRL?
>twitch drops end>streamers immediately start shitting on the game kek
>>507604637I'll take my time, thank you. I've been making alts and playing in the way I feel like playing. You are to thank for my map boss tree. And I will never forget that this tree has grown on account of something so much greater than the downing of map bosses: the proof that winners win, and losers lose. Thank you, I will now go back to building this tree.
>>507604736yeah, those do like 200 damage to me in a damage map>>507604986blackbraid provides basically no armor so yeah no chestpiece
If you doom some more, somehow 400k players will drop the game
>>507604963Sorry, I don't make excuses for a game that's been developed for half a decade and is this barebones. They had all of PoE 1's homework to cheat off of and the arrogant Leprechaun ignored it all while haphazardly slapping in league mechanics from PoE 1 that make zero sense for 2. This game is worse in every fashion and I don't see how they are going to undo that when they have lost retards in charge.
>>507605018Good
>not listening to the r/a/dio while grinding out some maps in ssfyou guys don't know how to have fun
>>507605009No it's that there are builds that can afford to mf and build that can'tWhat do stormweavers care about on jewelry other than mana and cast speed? Meanwhile stat stackers have all the money in the world and can insta kill any T4 boss but good luck finding a breach ring with the suffixes they want AND rarity
>>507605312Anon, those people won't understand that this is actually good until a streamer tells them.
>>507604782i apologize, i made my post in rage induced by thinking about how dogshit boring the crafting in poe2 is. yeah alt spamming is trash, what i meant is that "pick up white item + transmute" is the exact same (not good) as using an alt functionally but even more tedious to do because you have to pick up the white item, transmute + aug it and then drop it.i think those types of crafts are fucking shit and the game really needs crafting methods that are powerful, targeted (and thus thought out) and expensive. something more like fossil crafting than chaos spamming, in poe1 terms.
>>507604209>Just stack 45k armor bro and still have less survivability than some faggot with ES
Are they gonna nerf this nigga? I was considering making some kind of Warrior to use with it because only the frost explosions look enjoyable for clearing.
>>507604672I'm not sure what you're talking about. I checked the body in the venom crypt in case I was going crazy but no poison dropped. I wish I could just see a something on my character sheet that says +5 from venom but no everything has to be so tedious.
>>507605340almost like they said the endgame was made in 2 months without any internal testing and was there just so players have something to do during early access, do you think what we're doing now is going to be the same as the full release? why did you purchase a early access game just to complain about it being early access.
>>507605312You should put on a name
>>507605537>Are they gonna nerf thisIf you feel the need to ask, then yes.
>>507605583>You can't critique my shitty game, you better stop. You're going to make me crySo in five years we have three shitty acts made and ascendancies with D4 levels of balance and you don't think I'm allowed to shit all over that. Fuck you.
whats a fun build that can MF that isnt archmage or deadeye?
This is actually the most fun ive had making builds and theorycrafting in years. PoE 2 actually makes theorycrafting interesting instead of just picking one scaling layer, picking two auras, and then dumping 500 divines into it.
How come there isn't a /poe2g/ guild?
>>507605076dont tell this to anyone on your weapon swap you can path to the slow reduction wheel on the monk side of the tree also you can run blink on any character with the travel nodes it takes you to get there. the combination of these two things lets you trivially do the mechanic with negative movespeed modifiers
>>507600286Ok I got one now lv60, now what?Trial's area is still lv22 on the maps.
>>507605312Yeah that's what I'm saying, do you have it equipped in that pic? How do you even hit 44k without a giga 2.5k chest piece
>>507605750i agree outside of the wild power imbalance between life and es, theres literally no reason to make a character that isnt ci+grim feast
>>507605750>PoE 2 actually makes theorycrafting interesting instead of just picking one scaling layer, picking two auras, and then dumping 500 divines into it.>HURRR STACK MANA GET DAMAGE AND SURVABILITY shut up retard
>>507605724you are not critiquing anything though you are just getting mad at the literal concept of an early access game being an unfinished game. why not make suggestions instead of "just make it like poe1", also poe1 took like 6 years to get into beta and that game is nothing like the game we play today, why are you acting like nothing will change despite having the previous game that has dramatically changed throughout the years.
>>507605750Shill post. You never liked PoE 1
>>507605009>>507605127People have been bitching about MF even during D2 because they dont like "how it feels" its actually, no joke, an OCD thing. The fact that some classes can abuse it more easily is just an excuse they come up with now that they find convenient because it makes the issue one of game balance rather than their own personal feelarinos.Its literally>you should nerf thing i dont like because OP class can abuse it easier.
Is there any reason I would ever use this? Do rare monsters drop more shit the more modifiers they have?
>play poe1 out of boredom to take a break from maps>haven't played in years>quicksilver flask>get blink early>even get leap slam early as welli do miss zooming
>>507605073>massreplyerdidnt read
>>507605863scavenged platingi did say "while mapping"
>>507605937>Dude, just wait years for the game to get good and ignore how shit it is nowNo, I will not eat your slop while coping about the future, Jonathan.
>oh boy a new d2 season!>time to roll sorc and magic find for the 10000000x in a row because you cannot play anything else otherwise until you have gear or youre just cucking yourself
>>507605902Rule #69 of Whiny Faggotry: When someone enjoys the game, project your temper-tantrum onto them and bask in the feeling of illusive success (it's called failure)
>>507606129>oh boy a new poe2 season >time to roll archmage magic find spark for the 100000x in a row because you cannot play anything else otherwise until you have gear or youre just cucking yourself
>>507605018d4 tourists aren't "people"
>>507606117then why did you buy an unfinished game to begin with
>>507606129>>507606202i think i have a better understanding why people hate MF now but not enough for them to get rid of it, yet
>>507605876>>507605902actual people who make their own builds theorycraft things outside of the most obvious broken builds because the fun part is making things work instead of just picking already working concepts and slightly tweaking them. Anyone who actually makes their own builds understands this.
>>507606137>make a dumb retard post>get called out for being a dumb retardall the good builds in this game stack 1 thing for damage and 1 thing for survabilitygame is shit
>>507606343So why are you here? It's Christmas!
>>507605009The problem with mf is that crafting in this game is poop enough already and now you tell me actually there's this extra mod that you need to roll on all your gear otherwise you won't get any loot.Also oops you picked the wrong build that can't fit it too bad.
>>507606286I didn't buy anything, I supported PoE 1 for years just for them to spit in my face and use their promotional talks to go on about how much they hate their players for having fun with a plethora of options for endgame. The philosophy for 2 is basically fuck you, people who supported us for years. We're making a game not for you and they did. Props to them for sticking to their word.
>>507605517ok i stood in a ground explosion after letting scavenged plating fall off and my hp went down a bitshow me your ES build standing in one that crit on a damage map
>>507605750I like making builds and theorycrafting because the game allows me to chose among countless good ways to do thatYou like making builds and theorycrafting because you like the pain of finding the only possible way through the forest of dogshitFirst game design is good one (D2, PoE1, LE, GD, TQ, GD, Sacred)Second is retarded (PooE2)
>>507606202when the game came out i rerolled off of spark because it was boring and played earthshatter warrior instead, got to t15s with it and now i rerolled to detonate dead in SSF. poe2 is better than d2 in this regard but mf is still quite dumb.
>be me > original donut steal life regen build>already have to give up 1 affix that could be res for life regen on my items>now you're telling me I need to give up another suffix slot for magic finduninstalled
>>507598939>here's the thing - physical damage from normal mobs that isnt meant to be dodged is completely fine with current armorI'd actually be okay with this but there's a lot missing to make it work in practice.There's sort of three mechanisms I think required to support this, with each character having some combination but requiring a sum of them to survive (in the current model).1. You're moving around so much that you by default avoid being in glowing red circles.2. The glowing red circles are telegraphed loudly and early enough and you avoid getting surrounded such that you can simply walk out of them.3. Your escape options are good enough that you can actually get out of them when you do see them while you're close to a group of enemiesThe problem is that the characters with high armor - eg - the only ones that CAN'T tank these glowing red circles, are also the ones that lack all three of those. Shield charge and leap slam are useless as an escape (both have windup measured in geolithic eras, shield charge stops on mobs, leap slam you still get hit during its animation and tends to have really busted targeting). MS is usually much worse due to the MS penalty on armor.If shield charge wasn't interrupted by hitting mobs AND the wind up was way way way way shorter, I think this would works as well in practice as it does in principle.And you can actually see a really good game taking this approach. You can sort of have a triangle here derived from modeling the character archetypes as a function of positioning.On one point of the triangle you have positioning via range, thats your spellcasters and rangers. On one point you have positioning via mobility, thats your dex melee. And on another point you have positioning via moving ENEMIES, and thats your strength melee. If shield charge PUSHED enemies, you'd start to see strength being able to work quite well in this system while having a unique identity.
>>507605858Sounds good, thanks.
>>507606491>theory crafting>d2>LElol?
>>507606491>GD>craftingok so you're just lying
i how the lack of actual meaningful targeted crafting in this game means if i replace one piece, i might have to replace another, which will snowball because of stat requirements on shit so you better hope to god the piece you replace doesn't have that 15 strength you need to make it work
>>507605073>take 2 armor wheelsand you're using a blackbraid? are you running a shield or something?
>>507606109Dude just use svalinn or the surrenderSurvivability while mapping wasn't the big problem
>>507606681just change attributes on the tree???
anyone baking?
>>507605750I agree in practice but I'm pretty sure it's only because all the toys are new. I really can't see this phase of development lasting with how limited scaling pounds are. The vast majority of good modes are discovered on day 1 and the best skills haven't really changed at all, they just play into those modes, so most developments have only been discovering interactions or hitting enough farm to test day 1 theories
Playing PoE2 for a while now just made me appreciate Last Epoch WAAAAY more. Such a shame they pretty much abaonded the game...
RMT baboons are going crazy rn
>>507606663LE is a lot more fun to theorycraft with each skill having a unique tree and crafting being accessible so you can finetune things to how you want.>>507606664GD has an insane amount of builds and gear to support them and that's probably the strongest part of the game. These tencent chinks just say the dumbest shit in hopes that people never actually played these ARPG's or were too stupid to theorycraft anything themselves.
>>507606825do not attempt to tell people to actually make their own choices in this general. It is apparently too hard.
i dont wanna play anymorei dont wanna compete with gookniggers and metaslaving RMTers who bought 1500 exalts on day 2 and bought every single good item on the market
>>507605750I'm finding the opposite. I theorycrafted a chaos melee summoner using iron mass, envy, etc. It was fun to theorycraft but of course it didn't fucking work AT ALL.Between gem weapon restrictions and the much more reasonable (but a bit surprising) drought of interesting uniques, I'm not even really getting to that point.
>>507606890>>507606825>gear a gear upgrade>its 200 int to wear instead of 200 str>be warriorShut the fuck up Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up you level 70 retards
>>507606949ssf
>>507606825>>507606890another snowball effect.
>>507606880>insane amount of builds and gear to support themThis is only true for the campaign and maybe ultimate difficulty, once you get to the actual endgame of pushing SR and killing a Celestial the build variety drops way way down. But no one actually even cares about that because everyone quits Grim Yawn way before then.
we need a new thread, anyone baking?
>>507607039which just further gates you off from any gear and makes the grind even worse. I can't believe anyone would say this without realizing how retarded it sounds.
>>507607029just change attributes on the tree??????
>>507598053>"This guy is better than Alkaizer at PoE 2 btw"Where you at ya bignose kike faggot?
>>507606753obviously it is or people wouldnt be complaining about warrior being squishy or armor being useless>>507606721uh yeah pretty impossible to get that much without a high armor shield and helmet
>>507607196>skills need 200 str to useur so stupid
>level up skill>get punished because you need more stats?
dead gamedead general
>>507603280they didnt need to make a new game to tweak the crafting system.
the vast majority of people in this general don't even use a weapon swap setup, that's what we're dealing with here
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>>507606825niggy its not the type of attributes but the amount of it. if you are barely meeting attribute requirements, replacing an item with attributes means you need to somehow get the attributes on another piece of gear. i have a stash full of items that are basically "slightly worse but has X dex / int". same thing with res, except for res the type matters too obviously. the attribute thing wouldnt be so bad if you could just downlevel gems but alas, early access game etc
>>507607381oh cool let me waste a fucking gem slot for shit I don't need
>>507607550the fact i cant downlevel shit drives me insanei dont even know where to get certain level skill gem levels
good?
>>507597574kek merc is literally just karst
>>507606031yes
>>507597725>When God has lost His way, the devout must see Him back on the pathPoE voice lines are so good it's insane how bad PoE2 lines are in comparison
>>507600471it's not about doing better, it's about not being from reddit. you should go back there.
>>507606302i mean i "made" my starter monk build that i continued to play through killing arbiter of ash but the fact is that it would be retarded to continue playing hybrid health/es when pure es is so insanely broken so i just stopped playing
>>507606031also some things let you steal a monsters modifiers when you kill them.
>>507606129this had more to do with teleport than anything.Ironically "gold find" made barbarians a valid starter when usually they need like 8x the level of gear than mages just to kill enemies in hell at a quarter of the speed of sorc.
>>507603678d2 crafting WAS good. kb gloves, cb gloves, fcr belts, blood rings (1.08 and prior), +2 fcr amulets, etc. were all quite good if you were autistic enough to mass-trade the mats from jsp onto a dozen mule accounts and do the damn thing.also>chip rolling colossus blades>rerolling matri bows>unscrupulous rune desocketing tricksand the most kino cube of all>the 'trust me bro this dupe method works' body pop and gank ur shit scam
>>507597574they are ok. what do you mean stand out? they have their own personalities.sorc is proud cunt, merc is greedy han solo type cunt, warrior is average joe forced to fight, witch is edgy bitch, and i didnt play the other classes DESU
the funny thing is that with gear warriors are probably fastest clearing class in the game so warrior could be getting nerfs after break.
>>507597861>The VA is like 80% of the reason to play it you are a crazy personi play video games to play video games
>>507611038i can definitely see warriors getting nerf. they don't deserve it imo but ggg hates melee.
>>507611038>default attack explosions dead>stampede slow as fuckbig think
>>507578915DOG SHIT OF EXILE 1NO BOX SHIT OF EXILE 2
