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Merry Christmag edition

Previous thread >>507546227

Buy Plat
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Chris
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DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
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Drifter Doesn't Know
(Eleanor and Me)

Drifter doesn't know that Eleanor and me
Slip into the Backrooms every Sunday
She tells him she's on a mission but
She doesn't go
Still she's on her knees and
Drifter doesn't know

Oh, Drifter doesn't know, oh
So don't tell Drifter
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
(So don't tell Drifter!)

Eleanor says she's out shoppin'
But she's under me
And I'm not stoppin' 'cause

Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
So don't tell Drifter
Drifter doesn't know, oh
(Don't tell Drifter!)

I can't believe he's so trustin'
While I'm right behind you thrustin'
Eleanor's got him on the phone
And she's tryin' not to moan
It's a three-way call
And he knows nothin', nothin'

Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Don't tell Drifter 'cause
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know, oh

So don't tell Drifter
We'll put on a show
Everyone'll go
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know, oh

The parking lot, why not
It's so cool when you're on top
His front lawn, in the snow
Life is so hard 'cause
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know

I did her on his birthday
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Don't tell Drifter
Drifter doesn't know, oh

Drifter will know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter's gotta know
I'm gonna tell Drifter
Gonna tell him myself
Drifter has to know
Drifter has to know
Drifter has to
Drifter has to
Drifter has to go

Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know (Don't Tell Drifter!)
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know (Don't Tell Drifter, Drifter doesn't know)
Drifter doesn't
Drifter doesn't
Drifter doesn't know

Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter doesn't know
Drifter's gotta go
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>>507583263
Cuck
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>someone insults me for popping eido limbs too fast(???) and then leaves
Warframe has voice chat?
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>>507584025
My friends, it has often been said that I like Wisp. My friends, I like Wisp... No, friends, I love Wisp!

I love Motes. I love Breach Surge. I love Wil'o'Wisp. I love Sol Gate, teleporting, I love triangulating two breach surges, and decoy switching for invulnerability. Wisps across plains, in ships, in space, in infested hellscapes, in frozen tundras, through deserts, on the sea, in the air, I love every act of Wisp that can occur upon this earth.

I love blasting the enemy to smithereens with Bramma salvos that thunder across the lines of battle. My heart leaps with joy whenever a Grineer is tossed high into the air and cut to pieces by well placed explosive rounds. And there is nothing like an operator using a hardened wellspring to buff her motes. And the feeling that comes when a Corpus runs screaming from his irradiated MOA, only to be mowed down by heavy kitgun fire, is such an exquisite feeling. Reminiscent of when ranks of infantry brandish their prods rushing into the enemy line. It moves me deep within my heart to watch a Wisp meleeing over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy.

Gentlemen... All I ask for is Wisp butt, Wisp butt so grand as to make Hell itself tremble. Gentlemen, I ask you as fellow brothers in arms what is it that you really want? Do you wish for further Wisp as I do? Do you wish for a merciless, bloody Wisp? A Wisp whose fury is built with iron and lightning and fire? Do you ask for Wisp to sweep in like a tempest, leaving not even ravens to scavenge from this Earth!?

...Very well. Then ass is what you shall have. We are a clenched fist, ready to strike down all who oppose us with our might. But... After enduring over half a century wallowing in the darkness, for us, a simple "ordinary" Wisp will no longer be sufficient. We need a MASSIVE ass! A Wisp beyond any other that man's history has ever known!
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>>507584207
cute retard
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>>507584207
Did you pop limbs before a lure was charged?
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>>507584207
that can sometimes be a bad thing if you want to be efficient and keep it in one place when there aren't enough charged lures nearby (instead of having to go hunt it down again, which adds a lot of time)
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Aah, hot chocolate, quaint christmas music, warmth of the hearth, and a strong muscular kubrow pushing his knot into you. It's that time of the year.
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>>507584423
zased
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>>507584423
megpilled post
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>>507584182
So this is the power of /wfg/
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>>507584106
tmas
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>>507584025
reminder that nova is fat
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eleanor operator ss while the drifter is out
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>>507584798
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>507584712
where are the transnigger bipoc lgtbq+ characters bigot
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lucky Meg
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>hello :D
>https://files.catbox.moe/djaeex.ogg
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>>507583263
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>>507584712
>mag = cute dork
check
>trinity = degen
Check
>nyx = i dont know what the fuck
2 out of three aint bad.
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>>507584891
built for big tenno parazon
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>>507584849
Why and how did it get so big?!
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>>507584712
>belly dancer mirage in harem gauze
MY FUCKING DICK
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reminder that albrecht was using pom-2 before we showed up so she's impure as well
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>>507585117
uh bro did you forget which team he's batting for? albrecht is pom-2's gay best friend
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>>507585021
saw meg waiting on all fours
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>>507585189
albrecht clearly swings both ways
especially if it's a kavat
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albrecht only really cares about his cat
he's literally me, might I add
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>>507584712
Why the fuck is Ember WHITE
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merry cuckmas eleanor fags!
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>>507585259
he outright NO WAY FAG's rusalka and says he doesn't like women, he had a kid because it was an obligation as an orokin noble but he clearly didn't care much for Mother's mom
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>>507584182
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER'S GOTTA KNOW
DRIFTER'S GOTTA GO
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>>507585283
Reb doesn't have the Timbits to do it even if it would means more Trudeaubucks
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>>507585313
because monkes can't into fire
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>>507585313
Ember is Megan so she's not white but a ginger
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>>507584182
stop spamming this
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>>507585532
kalymos romance WHEN
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>>507585903
This is my first time posting this, what do you mean?
I'm not anon who posted it in the last thread
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>>507584712
>they're too white
what is this 1820?
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>>507586020
>wanting used goods
just stick to eleanor
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>>507586074
dey was actaully blac in 1820 dey don't want you to kno.
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>let's quickly dig up 3 thyst, how hard can it b
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>>507586029
I don't care. It's too fucking long.
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>>507584182
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
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>>507584712
nerdy mag is so much better than the stupid gookess we got
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duviri NPC romance
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>Eleanor.... Why are you smiling at me like that.....
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>Stalking Reb's twitter for xmas pics
>Nothing still
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proto-ember leak
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Is Boar incarnon or gammacor incarnon good?
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>>507586902
gammacor Incarnon is
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>>507584712
honestly I've always thought of Nova as a cute asian girl moreso than Mag
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+20x crit multiplier via melee doughty
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>>507586953
nova is an 80s college age white girl
her protoframe will swap her fat cankles for leg warmers
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>>507587439
>swap her fat cankles for leg warmers
A fair guess, anon, but wrong.
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>>507587376
it doesn't say anything about a cap, does it?
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>>507586202
NTA, but stop being a bitch
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>>507587649
none that I know of
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>>507587439
proto wisp's feet or lack thereof?
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>>507587376
How x20 and what weapon? The only pure puncture melee i know of is incarnon form ruvox.
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>>507588098
vaykor sydon + weeping wounds
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>>507588146
That is incredibly based
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>>507587898
amputee goth wiccan mall rat.
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what if soulframe succeeds bros
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>>507588284
we get to watch rebkeks melt
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>>507588284
it would be a good thing
steve will be occupied with it and wont care much for warframe. rebb will continue goonin.
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>Dating Eleanor
>Max Chemistry
>She never talked about Chris
Am i being trolled by fake screenshots or what???
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>>507588284
>esoteric fantasy setting soulslike MMO
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>>507588565
Yeah, it is just a troll, enjoy your throne king!
drifter doesn't know
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>>507588617
its a tried and tested formula
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>STORMFALL DESCEND!
K I N O
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>>507588617
It's gay and retarded that they put the word "soul" in there. Everyone says that it plays more like a hack and slash couch co op game than darksouls.
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delete syndicate mechanics
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>>507586429
Stop trying to fuck Mathila.
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add multi-syndicate missions
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Which part of the community does DE listen to the most:

1) official forums
2) wfg
3) reddit
4)me specifically
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>>507589149
this
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WHY ARE THESE ELEANOR -MAGGOTS- STILL BREATHING -MY- AIR?!
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delete operators
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put operator creation to the very beginning of the game when you make an account and remove second dream
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Holy shit Yareli is caked up.
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>>507589602
they should compress the storyline leading up to the second dream and work in some missions + old missing dialoge/lore from old events as a kind of extended new player experience
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>>507589183
we listen to your psychiatrist, he said you need to take meds or neck yourself
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host migration fucking reset quest progrees
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>>507589183
they don't give a fuck about forums they're purely an autism sink. maybe the bug report section gets people checking it but that's it.
they don't care about /wfg/ obviously.

the CMs read reddit on company time and respond to people mostly either by tweeting shit or directly posting on official accounts there so it's obviously the one they care about most
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>>507589602
they already spoiled the reveal with the starting cutscene + duviri being unlocked so early so they might as well
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>>507589849
>have stupid fucking quests like "kill 300 techrot with melee"
>host migration from endless missions resets progress

god 1999 sucks
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>>507589849
yea this was annoying
for bounties just wait like a minute before hopping on your bike. you'll likely get host.
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>>507590037
>>have stupid fucking quests like "kill 300 techrot with melee"
bro this is one of the easiest ones, how can you be completely caught up with main story progression and still not have a working melee setup?
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>>507590190
nigga try being 5 away from completion then host d/c
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How painful is the Defection Harrow grind?
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>>507590279
Escort mission in a skinner box.
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>>507590260
so host it yourself...?
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>>507590279
just wait for circuit rotation
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>>507590458
golly gee its as if i would have done that in the first place had I known my progress would have gotten wiped
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>>507590607
>golly gee
amir stop posting on /wfg/ and go await your peggging in the backrooms
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>introduce the whole overdrive system
>buffs only work in hex maps
why?
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>>507590820
its going to be the center going forward
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>>507590820
In case you haven't got the memo yet, starchart is over.
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>>507590820
read what they do, some of them completely break the balance on certain frames
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Which contagion Zaw do you think fits Wisp best theme wise?
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>>507591213
Stfu ill break yur balance
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>>507584025
I don't understand how the open world works
Like if i get to the node with solo matchmaking, the instance is empty
But if i get to it like from another area, like from Cestus or somewhere else, the instance is full of people
What gives? How can i make it so that theres always no one in my open world?
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if i see the word "bigot" one more time
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>>507591375
nigot
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I'm tired of being plat poor, what are the TOP options to farm plat? Even if initial investment is high. Been doing spy and corrupted mod farming but that ain't enough for me.
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>>507591247
dokrahm, because it's a big spooky yard implement you can use while flying around, since she's a witch obviously
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>>507591335
set your matchmaking to solo
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>>507591375
He's right.
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>>507591551
wait for 75% coupon
go flip burgers for an hour
profit
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>>507591551
SP omnia fissures since you can grind relics and arcanes at the same time, go hustle.
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>>507591335
No hubs will always have other players. If you want to be alone in everything else set your matchmaking to solo(it's the icon next to your name)
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So Aoi is a ancestor of the Ostrons, right?
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>>507591578
I guess plague keewar works as well since both are scythes. Wouldn't a small sickle work better than a huge heavy scythe? since witches and magic casters in general use light weapons, and wisp is also a ghost light, while only ghost knights use huge things like heavy blades.
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How do I stop worrying about being optimal and have fun
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>ps4 host
>takes a literal MINUTE to capture one fucking point in interception
>10 seconds to get the shots to register on the enemies
God this fucking joke has to stop.
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>>507592258
just do it bro
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>>507591587
>>507591741
Thank you, sorry for the stupid question
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https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Arcane_Impetus
this arcane was made for mirage
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>>507592893
It's not stupid. Better to ask then drop the game because it wasn't fun to play otherwise.
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>>507592226
you can't take away my headcanon of her riding around on a dokrahm heavy blade like a broom
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>>507592902
voruna
citrine
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>>507592258
try and find things that are good enough and interesting or fun to use instead of optimal
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Inaros Prime getting out of the over in 17minute. What should I expect?
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>>507593056
if you are running the archon build on mirage you can have 100% 5 stacks uptime on that arcane
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>>507593004
...That sounds so adorable I might actually draw it if I build a new Dokrahm and like it. These are the best parts for a contagion zaw, right?
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>>507591375
I love that his reponse to this was "be the niggest nigger that ever nigged so i actually earn the disdain I feel people give me unjustly, and then abandon my comrades when they're in mortal danger because I assume they would do the same for me, and when that ends up not being the case, get mad at them because now I owe them."
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>>507593257
lol I love it, yeah give that a shot if you want something slow and heavy but I've also got a seekalla/ekwana ii jai setup for status memes too while still getting access to decent base damage/multipliers as a heavy blade for things like contagion and influence
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>>507593508
for comparison, the loss in damage isn't even all that huge but the gigacrit capabilities and unconditional damage make shtung/vargeet ii ruhang my go-to 99% of the time
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>>507588617
>>507588889
It would have been interesting if it turned out that soulframe is another copy of the drifter/operator, and duviri acts as a paradoxical bridge between the series, so you could do things in warframe/duviri that affects the world of soulframe and vice versa (similar to the tigris in the puddle in the duviri reveal trailer)
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/v/ is talking about Reb again
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>>507593707
Anon... it's wisp. I get +88% attack speed basically forever. Is going status over crit worth it at all though? That's a massive loss of base crit.
Also base attack speed only affects how fast you swing. Contagion projectile speed is NOT affected by base attack speed. Since you can only throw one projectile per double jump / bullet jump it shouldn't matter as long as you don't have like 0.5 attack speed or a negative AS riven.
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He-he-hey there kiddos! It's On-Lyne and our [corporate manager] wants to make a de-deal of a [Life time] with you!
Now that you can see their aint no stopping [HYPERLINK BLOCKED]. Something big is coming, and it's just the beginning. So so so WHY not take this [TWO FOR ONE DEAL] and become a [BIG SHOT]? All you need to do kiddo is [Click to return book] and we get to moving underneath the neon lights!
So wh-wh-what what d-d-d-do you say?
We have [DEAL OR NO DEAL?]
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>>507593954
like I said, I keep the option on hand for more extreme status memes, but I vastly prefer the big dick crit setup for reasons you illustrate
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>>507594387
What do you use? Wrathful advance, or Eclipse?
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>>507593206
Oh wow, you're getting +30% power strength and 15% efficiency at the cost of one of your two arcane slots. Or you could just take molt augmented and go with the lazy prism build.
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Handcuffed sex with Aoi in spite of the fact she could use her magnetism to escape any moment
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>>507594559
I fucked with eclipse for a while but found that wrathful advance is way more fun as a stealth/repositioning tool and gets me way bigger numbers when it matters - most of the time I get more utility from ophanim eyes though, and I only pull out the wrathful advance setup for big bosses most of the time
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To the dev that designed Cyte-9's playstyle.....
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>>507593954
>Pic from last year
Post current results
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>>507595038
His 4 is meant to be his main ability but it's also the most subsumable and that's sad.
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>>507595309
Why would you ever subsoom over his 4? It does Gorillions of damage and is aoe.

I find his ammo skill to be the weakest.
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Trying to think who could I place on top of her.
Got any suggestions?
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>>507595672
is that chroma
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>>507595784
A (VERY) rough rendition of Saryn Prime
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>>507595727
Not................ My.............Type................
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>>507595672
quincy
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>>507595967
BASED
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>>507595557
Free element is always great, it just allows for way better modding on your weapons. For instance, you can run Mag on your weapon with a single mod, Nourish for Viral, Corrosive ammo, and now you have 7 mod slots free while covering all the meaningful status, you can throw Heat or Toxin if you want but still 6 slots open. Then stealth is obviously great. 1 is spammable and universally useful. 4 might deal good damage, but it's just an exalted, just run a good primary/secondary and you'll also deal gorillion damage.
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when's the last time you saw someone get harvested dot com?
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>>507595967
Also I'm gay
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>>507596218
For Nezha
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>>507595672
I think I'll have the guy on top be the Drifter, he has experience with dolls.
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>>507595672
>Elen doesn't know
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>>507590820
>aoi gives me extra guns on xaku
this just confirmed who best girl is
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>>507595727
>has the orokin long arm, albeit a cyborg one
what did they mean by this? Just continuing warframe's boner for asymmetry?
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>>507595727
idk why but her facial animation really stands out here
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If Eternalism is real there exists a reality where everyone is a kavat.
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>>507595727
She's so fucking hot
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>507596814
I think it's just a nod to Orokang aesthetics and a simple and practical replacement / weapon for her if need be
I mean, look at how sharp those talons are
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>>507597120
>Nine Sols is canon in warframe due to eternalism
K I N O
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>>507597120
It's eternalism, not multiverse.
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>>507596814
Maybe Hollovian nobility started the trend.
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>>507597120
If Eternalism is real there exists a reality where you know
Slim chances, I know, but it's fun to speculate
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im gonna get gammacor incarnon but should i put it on a synoid gammacor i would get in the future or just my plain ass gammacor i have now?
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>>507597609
Synoid is an okay energy stick thanks to the passive so I'd use it on that.
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>>507587439
>>507587587
Both of these are acceptable
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is there any way i can make ordis back into his cephalon portrait instead of the trashcan version because holy fuck hes annoying like that
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>>507589183
Most likely, steam, twitter and reddit. I would be surprised if they know /wfg/ exists.
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>>507595150
Sure. That wasn't to prove anything, just an old pic I had.
>>507594958
Hmm... Honestly both feel so similar. Guess I'll have to test with an actual mission and see the numbers there.
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That may sound silly, but how do I go back to the regular Orbiter? I miss seeing the plantes I orbit around.
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>>507597935
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>>507597991
nav > orbiter
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>>507589849
>>507590037
Why on Earth would you ever play with others unless it's content you don't have the power to do alone?
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>>507597991
it shows up on Earth
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>>507597935
>I would be surprised if they know /wfg/ exists.
Fat fuck Scott was part of Warbros way back, newfriend.
Ofcourse they know what /wfg/ is.
(Hi Rebecca <3)
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rebecca here
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No sawdust-tier ovaries past this point
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>>507598275
this is good, more hags for /me/
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>>507594634
>prism build
>specifically said archon build
its like you dont even play mirage
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>>507598112
>>507598078
Wow that is a very obtuse way of switching between them.
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>>507598253
show tits
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I'm never fighting an Ambula again.
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So, while Rhino is bae, I've moved away from Stomping with him, to the point I almost never do it, because I'm finding building for maximum ability strength and efficiency at the cost of duration. So, what would be a good ability to replace it with?
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>You can get Protea's theme for somachord
Sweet, this is groovin
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>>507598161
Well. Then I am surprised. In that case, give Rhino a better passive, the one he has sucks.
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>>507597959
>Guess I'll have to test with an actual mission and see the numbers there.
yeah that's my advice, I prefer to tune my builds around what I log in to actually play against on a regular basis over the memeulacrum - I'm also a duplicate user so wrathful advance fucks with my steez a bit there too and changes my general approach to using melee, but it's worth it

I must also most urgently insist that you consider crepuscular and violet shards if you're really invested in the gimmick, as well as magus aggress
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caliban here
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Newfriend here, does Primary Acuity work on AOE weapons or something like Ignis? I know it can't go on a shotgun (lame), but does an AOE hitting the head hitbox, count as hitting it?
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>>507599459
Expected of a brownoid t b h.
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>>507599331
I think acuity and crux only work on direct projectile hits to the weakpoint, and not the aoe tagging it
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>>507599459
It speaks volumes that the plush rat on her shoulder looks slightly more realistic to an actual irl rat, than the thing she's holding in her hand that's only a rat in name
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>>507585313
Ember is a redhead
STOP with the blackwashing of redheads
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>>507599046
Alright tested against steel path orokin and at first I seemed to get similar values but that changed quickly.
With wrathful advance I usually got 110k-300k damage and SOMETIMEs got 800k-1.2m damage.
With Eclipse I started getting around 200k damage, and it quickly scaled up like crazy, getting 400k damage at minimum, with enemies usually taking 2m damage and corpus taking basically guarateed almost 4m damage.
It's still no contest, Eclipse being multiplicative is so much better, even with the nerfs. idk what all those peoplee recommending me to switch to wrathful advance were on about. Maybe they just saw red numbers and thought that was better without testing?

But yeah, I'll redo my build a bit to slot in violet shards instead of going full strength.
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ember is a robot
and can be anything i say it is, so black it is.
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they should genderswap a protoframe or 2
i think frost and nezha would be good
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>>507599938
they're not robots
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>>507595672
Me
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>>507599842
As a redhead, I'm okay with NOT seeing Ember's retarded helmet pompadour recreated as red hair.
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>>507600050
proofs?
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>>507599938
black people wouldn't be messing around with fire, they'd be too busy breaking and entering and killing and murdering, which is why 09 can hide cause you can't see him cause he's black, get it he's invisible in the dark lul
redheads are the literal and metaphorical embodiment of a fiery/seductive disposition
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>>507599945
it would be ember and ash since ember was originally male and ash has concept art of a female version
or loki because of that one time on the devstream there was loki's head on saryn's base model
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>>507599945
I'd love a female Loki to be honest
And female Ash
Our frames, barring Umbra, are shaped golems anyway, so some women being infected with the strain and becoming a female counterpart doesn't sound so bad
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Wally did nothing wrong, he was just trying to make friends with Albrecht when he came out of the bell and help the kids on the Zariman when the adults when psycho after being exposed to the void. It's all just a big misunderstanding
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Reb I need to goon please post those xmas thirst traps
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>>507600384
You just know that it'll either go the Dishonored: Death of the Outsider trope route and make Wally a normal human, or that he'll remain as he is but will be redeemed after he """learns""" love or some pseudo-sappy shit
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>>507600676
The uncharacteristic typo always gets me.
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>>507599887
I definitely find both are overkill for most cases in terms of damage if you pump strength, so I save that kind of thing for long podsitting or survival poopsocking runs where I'm also maximizing strength for my motes and just use moderate strength on wrathful advance (or, most of the time, run ophanim eyes for more utility like I said)

however, consider the specific interactions of what you're buffing and how (and where you'll hit diminishing returns sooner) on critical chance vs weapon damage - for example, my dedicated melee shard wisp with a vargeet ruhang ii instead of a vargeet ii ruhang is actually what I'll pull out for the apex tank (overkill) or 60eyes, it's under 100% crit but hits the 140-150% duplicate sweetspot with a moderate strength wrathful advance, but I'd never want to use that for my comfy daily driver build that lets me comfortably roflstomp weeklies and dailies more unconditionally
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>>507600340
both please
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>>507600285
true
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>>507598797
hahaha
yes you will :)
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>>507600623
i dont think wally is killable by any reasonable metric else albrecht would try to get us to kill him
instead the best we can do is containment and mitigation
likely we just get a way to seal him back up, or tell him to fuck off
or they give him his finger back and we find a magic macguffin that replaces the void power and keeps everything from collapsing to shit
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>>507600676
>Our boy is afraid of the inevitable loop and what it means for his life
It's sad that he realized he's in a content island and that his life will never really move on
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>>507600623
Wally doesn't want to change from Albrecht's personality. He tried to trick it but it want's to be a dick like him.
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>>507601128
Reb's crusty and childless mind will start pushing for softer resolutions soon
You'll see
We'll all be friends in the end lmao
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Reminder that in one conversation Drifter admits that the conflict between him and Thrax was born because he got old and bored of Thrax who was a eternal child.
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>>507600751
Have you tested with eclipse? As I said, it felt like I did way more damage with it than wrathful advance, and on top fo that its duration is better and you can get other methods to get more crit chance, while eclipse is a special MULTIPLIER to thrown melee instead of just additive damage. Also you're using vigorous swap, right? that's another value that is multiplicative with zaws. I'd love to see your build for your zaw.
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should the lost islands of duviri be a second open world or an addition to the current?
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>>507601495
And yet they still refuse to see that in the end we'll be fighting operator who's stuck in his orokang tenno ways
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>>507601248
Wally changing would mean Albrecht changing which is unlikely with how dickish he was in 1999 even after all he went through.
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>>507601590
Addition, naturally.
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So did Albretch only have kids with Grandmother for the tradition of marrying into esteemed orokin houses and continuing the bloodline?
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>>507601662
And yet they still forget it's Drifter who is a guest in this reality
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>>507601668
>Albrecht changing
Don't look down on lore a childless woman pushing past her prime can come up with
Everyone will be alive and well, even Min or whatever Tagfer's gf was named, and Albrecht will be saved through the power of love
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>>507602184
Albrecht had kids with some unknown Orokang woman, Grandmother is Father's mother.
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>>507601662
Operator can age can't they? They're only still young because they were in cryo sleep while dreaming of being a warframe
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>>507601549
not in a while on a high strength setup, before I switched to wrathful advance, but I'll give it a try again and see how practical it might feel by comparison - it just didn't seem worth losing the cool teleport and ability to cash in on the high crit tiers with big crit multipliers

>I'd love to see your build for your zaw.
the comboless wonder up top is more than enough for anything I run into on a regular basis and holds up well even a good hour or two into SP, and the other one lets me shoehorn in an influence nuke setup so long as I can get that first proc going then stay at permanent 10+ combo (good for clearing a room but not as practical as an actual melee weapon)
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My wife
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>>507591375
No, Quincy, they're looking down on you because you're a stereotypical, opportunistic, and self-centered black male
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>>507584025
Hola, pendejos!
'Tis the season to be alegre y alegre! Feliz Navidad, I hope all tenno have been having a tiempo fantástico and tomando café o tal vez chocolate caliente o incluso esa bebida especial que sirven para Navidad. ¡Ah, sí, ponche de huevo, una bebida tan deliciosa cuyas maravillas y sabor espléndido me alegran el alma! ¡Esta ocasión es muy especial para todos y debe celebrarse con mucho cariño! ¡Date un capricho! ¡Son las vacaciones! ¡Disfrútalo! ¡Sal y visita varias tierras! ¡Ve a ver cosas! ¡Juega videojuegos! MATAR COSAS ASESINAR A TODOS LOS NPC MALOS

Esto me recordó, como ocurre con muchas cosas hoy en día, a Nietzsche y sus ideas sobre lo que él llama la “moral de la costumbre” o la “moral de las costumbres”. Para Nietzsche, cuanto más profundamente arraigado está algo en la tradición o costumbre, mayor es su poder moral. En la sección 9 de Daybreak, escribe que “la moral no es otra cosa… que la obediencia a las costumbres, sean del tipo que sean; las costumbres, sin embargo, son la forma tradicional de comportarse y evaluar”. Y, más abajo, añade esta significativa idea:

¿Qué es la tradición? Una autoridad superior a la que se obedece, no porque ordene lo que nos es útil, sino porque ordena. ¿Qué distingue este sentimiento de presencia de la tradición del sentimiento de miedo en general? Es miedo en presencia de un intelecto superior que aquí manda, de un poder incomprensible e indefinido, de algo más que personal; hay superstición en este miedo. La idea de Nietzsche sobre la moralidad de las costumbres es una idea fascinante y la moralidad de las costumbres es algo que también opera en un nivel político más amplio.
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>>507602307
I see. I made the bad assumption she was Albretch's ex wife
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>>507602580
lmao

>I know you grew up in a former shithole colony
>a descendant from slaves
>black slaves
>poor black slaves
>but can you totally be, like, better?
>thanks
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>>507602307
Albrecht is Grandfather, you know.
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>>507603063
Yes, unironically this
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>>507603145
No wonder minorities hate you.
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>>507601549
oh and no, I'm not using vigorous swap - I also don't know exactly what you mean by those things being multiplicative for thrown melee since my understanding was those kinds of bonuses still stack up together (even if certain types of derivative projectiles benefit from those stacks twice)
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>>507603063
>>507603249
>Making excuses for others
No wonder you're so easily manipulated
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>>507603249
"minorities" hate everyone, most of all themselves
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>>507602897
Mucho texto
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>>507602897
It's like Tolkien's Elvish but looks even shittier
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>>507603464
Tick tock, Westoid.
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What are the best Boar Prime incarnon evolutions?
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>>507603889
Best ones? The ones I use
Worst ones? The ones you use
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>>507603949
Of all the true things ever said, this one is the most.
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wtf man, all the girls are "Best Friends" with me and no longer have any dialogue interactions, only the guys want to fuck me now. What did i do now
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>>507604285
Go up, and ask to date directly, autist.
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>Lettie selling so shit she isn't even in the popular category
The Vesper 77 sells better than her, yikes.
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I have the body of a pig
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>>507604653
What, without a discount?
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>>507601037
I could see them doing something later where once you have max standing, you've done the Hex finale and completed one loop of 1999, you can break the loop and the year moves on to 2000 and then days tick up with ours instead of skipping weeks whenever you complete a challenge, then throw in something to match the rewards and hex overrides you would've gained.
That way you could have some kind of end to the loop without really changing the world that much
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>>507593408
Well he did admit that it's the worst thing he's ever done and you should hate him for it
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>>507604653
Stop oppressing the poor.
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I keep getting cucked by Polymer Bundles, I need to farm those.
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>Eleanor's dad almost killed her Granny
Add Daddy issues to the list
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almost time to talk to my wife
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>>507589719
How else do you think she twerks so well?
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>>507605856
Take a number, anon
There's a line
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My cojones...
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>Dating Eleanor
>Still Listed as 'Best Friends'

The rumors they're true... Drifter doesn't know...
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Almost time to oppress minorities.
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>>507606376
it's the other way around
she's 'best friends' with everyone
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>>507602445
This is what I currently use on mine, to keep 5x combo at all times. Slotting in sacrificial mods is a bit obsolete with galvanized nowadays. Also I mentioned why attack speed doesn't matter. Idk why you're slotting in range? Is it to build up combo? I use galvanized reflex to have 5x combo at all times.That + avenger gives me around 230% crit chance, and when I slot in purple shards it'll give me a 25x crit multiplier after calculations.
>>507603293
Not at all. Like, usually mods add value with each other, like if you use Primed Pressure Point + Condition Overload with 3 status that's 165% + 240% = 405% damage, so a weapon doing 150 damage will do 150 x (1 + 405%) = 757.5 damage.
Multiplicative damage multiplies instead of adding, so with Primed Pressure Point and Vigorous Swap (both 165%) it'd be 150 x (1 + 165%) x (1 + 165%) = 1053.375 damage.
On top of that my eclipse does 158.4% and is ALSO multiplicative after the total damage calculations, and is applied twice, so with the above 1053 damage and eclipse it'd be 1053.375 x (1 + 158.4%) x (1 + 158.4%) = 7033.443864 damage. That's without even counting crit multipliers and all that jazz.
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10 minutes until I have to pay the girlfriend tax
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Imagine a completely modular Warframe whos abilities are using other warframe abilities like Helldiver stratagems
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>>507606642
>He wants Rev but with different abilities
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>>507606545
Stop orbiting my wife you deranged incel.
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Most useful specter loadout?
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>>507607052
AOE primer
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>>507606515
you seem to have missed the parts where I was talking specifically about having an unconditional build (no ramping up) and using melee duplicate (so I want yellow and sometimes orange crits), and also using my melee weapon as both a contagion launcher and a melee weapon - I slot range so I can hit more things when I swing it around and I slot sacrificial mods for the big flat bonus that lets me near-optimize my crits for duplicate, because hitting twice per hit with both normal melee and contagion is very rewarding and easily secures kill within the range of stuff I play

>Multiplicative damage multiplies instead of adding
thank you for that lol, I think you're kind of misusing that terminology but I understand you're saying they are two independent multipliers and do not stack additively with each other which I didn't know, so I'm definitely giving eclipse another look for contagion use specifically
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>>507607052
Dante 99% of the time.
Ancient Healer if you're on EDA Mirror Defense.
Nidus if you're an autistic Strmaxxing Wisp.
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>>507606642
>everyone plays mesmer skin, roar, xatas whisper, pillage
Woah fun and exciting!
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>ask Eleanor out
>she starts laughing
Fuck you Reb, I play videogames to forget about real life
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>>507602897
me quedo con la chica caliente por favor
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>>507607462
thiis but unironically
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>>507607562
No way that's true. Reb isn't that cruel.
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>ask Lettie out
>she collars you immediately
oh fuck YES rebecca
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>>507607562
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Omamori Mirage is amazing wtf, only thing that could improve is having a way to reduce the 3s proc rate on the Omamori but otherwise it's just so comfy to play and scales glaives/zaw so well.
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>>507604561
all that cuck posting for NOTHING
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>>507602897
>border hopper trinity
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>Ask Eleanor out
>She says "Sure"
>Hear background voices say "Is that?"
>"He doesn't know"
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>>507607562
be assertive, anon!
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Why does Arthur and Quincy always sound like they want to fuck me in the ass.
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>>507608852
they smell that bussy
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>>507608852
It's because you're a projecting faggot, you're seeing things that aren't there because there's not enough real life faggots to satisfy your craving for dick.
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>>507604561
I'm one of the like 0.1% of people who play Trinity Prime fairly often and even I'm baffled by the choice to make her one of the HEX, why the fuck did they choose the ultra niche invuln support frame instead of fucking Ember or some shit. Put a HEX girl in Ember's Heirloom and make a gorillion dollars
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>Amir convos dried up
Welp it's over I'm finally free of the jeet!
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>>507584182
Best thing to come out of /wfg/ ever. We need this song to get played on one of the /primetime/devstreams some how.
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>>507606515
ok, yeah I'm a believer now, and it just slots right into my existing approach with ease but like a lot of other apparently well-documented interactions (I really had no idea) I won't be surprised if this gets nerfed so I won't count on it

I've still got cases where I'll prefer wrathful advance just for the cool factor but you've got me wondering about how much or if this would be better against something with weird DR like the 60 eyes boss
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>>507607562
That's rough, anon.
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>>507609304
using AI to make songs isn't anything new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTqCrRfK5TY
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are the convos already over???
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So the Hex just stop messaging you after a point? Regardless of if you have or haven't seen all the conversations?
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>>507609486
>>507609517
correct
wait for part 2
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>>507609486
yes
the fucking audacity of the devs to say it was 2 novels worth of text is actually a self report
truly sad
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>>507609594
it is but if you grind well enough then it locks you out of some convos
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>>507608852
You will take that BQC.
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>>507609594
2 Novels worth of text
>But most of it is locked behind alternating dialogue trees
>and also you only get a random portion of it
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>>507609580
Surely it'll be on January 12th with the seasonal reset. They wouldn't leave us waiting for much longer with the absolute abysmal amount of content that they gave us. Right? Right??
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>>507609950
jumpingarthurfloof.jpg
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>>507609950
Being a dick about her paper cranes and in doing so screwing himself out of a lifetime of mag pussy.
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>>507609950
I'm so close to romancing Aoi. The only reason I don't do it is because I don't own mag.
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>>507609750
>>507609793
ive read like 80% of it on the site
it is not even 1 novel worth of text
im sure a coderbro could get a word count to back me up
the worst part is theres an overwhelming amount of pointless choices that literally have zero difference, and relatively few with 1 line change related to chemistry
the worst actual design flaw is the random chat selection though, which also means random flags missed for conversations with the same or other members
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>>507610331
I'm so grateful for the kim browser. I wish I waited for this thing before doing any of the conversations.
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>>507610278
Fag.
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>>507609950
it has never been more over...
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>max rep and chemistry with everyone
>Asked Letti out
>Letti doesn't message me after the reset
>Letti still just Best Friend
REB
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god has smiled upon me
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>>507610278
How are you supposed to know what she's even saying.
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Which of the Hex guys do you think is into being pegged?
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>>507610907
Americans and Canadians are expected to have a grasp of basic mexispeak
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>>507610292
>I don't own mag.
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>disable crossplay once and for all
>no player left in sight
kinda expected at least some players in popular stuff like incursion and omnia but whatever, way comfier this way
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>>507610639
Arthur bros..
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>>507610639
How do I get her to move in? just hit loved today, no waifu though.
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>>507611287
gotta leave backrooms and come back, she's by the cucking couch
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>>507611075
Dammit, I mean I do own mag, I just don't like her playstyle.
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>>507611075
NTA, but Mag is really fucking unfun to play.
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>>507610525
its neat, i really didnt think so many flags existed, and theyre so vaguely named that randomly seeing them i couldnt just immediately know what flags i had in the game
live im doing everyones final message except lettie who was yesterday, and bescause i am cringe dune reference and saw a narrow way through with 2 conversations left per person, and hit quincy rng to give me aoi autodate which idk if the followup is rng or not but i got, so i assume tomorrow is her final message and then im done chats
im just glad i didnt get the convo and fumble it, but i am sad i didnt get the convo in general, and the quincy save is impossible to fumble with aoi so i am numb
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>>507610907
By using el inmenso poder of google translate
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>>507610684
gifts+missions, it levels on its own
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>>507611801
thanks anon
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Oh, Reb, you shouldn't have!
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The KIM sim only made me more determined to reset everything and do no bounties or give gifts just so I can see every convo. I realized I've done like less than 20% of them.
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>>507612010
yeah stock up on medallions or just waste the rep reset because the arcanes are so easy to get, and youve done the thing so it doesnt matter
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>>507612010
https://kim.browse.wf/kimulacrum.html
Here you go. Everything you might have missed.
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>>507611598
Seriously, I agree.
There are so many flags I was taken back by the amount of them. I don't mind them, but I do mind that there isn't enough dialogue options, or even a way to revisit old topics. it's just very very linear. Grinding chemistry actually screws you over. It's not a bad system, but it needs more to it. I thought I had exhausted all my dialogue but I guess not. They have something good here, but they are gonna need some dedicated writers for this stuff if they want it to be worth a damn. Right now, waiting 24 hours to speak to them is pretty stupid.
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>>507612204
I don't want to do it on the website. I browsed enough to see the initial prompts and the large variety of dialogues only to realize that for almost all of them I've only done convo 1 and 2, but I want to actually do the thing in-game.
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heh
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE FUCKING SACRIFICE SOMACHORDS IVE REPLAYED THE ENTIRE FUCKING THING WITH A GUID AND HAVEN'T FOUND A SINGLE ONE
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>>507611424
weirdly I did that and she still wasnt there, but a log out/back in got it working.
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In case anyone's curious even if you're banging his sister, you can still tell Arthur "lol lmao that's it? skill issue" after he opens up to you about Chris "AIIIIEEEEE RUSTY NAILS IN MY EYES, MY ONE WEAKNESS!" Topher.

don't worry arthur, maybe you can confide in aoi abour your hurt feelings....oh wait....you blew it with her, too...... lmao
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>>507612609
Ones in the bit where excal explodes, tree at your back, its on the right
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guys i just fucked up
i got titania in circuit and first decree was the .5 weapon damage but like 500 ability strength
i cant cast anything in 4 or i move so fast i overshoot the entire map, edge to edge
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>>507613456
one time i moved so fast in the circuit/undercroft that i didn't teleport to the next location and i had to leave
thank god this happened after they added reward saving so i didn't lose everything
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>>507613090
drifter's negative replies are so bizarrely extreme compared to every other choice
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>>507613508
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7woEXovruc
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>>507613090
some of the cunt options you can make the drifter do are so fucking blunt and extreme sometimes it borders on comedy
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>Eleanor came to my room today
LET'S FUCKING GO
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>>507613762
Wasn't Arthur in Afghanistan, and not curbstomping paddies in Derry?
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oh fuck
what the fuck do i say
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>be with Eleanor
>get message from Arthur about him acknowledging it
>fast forward to today
>Arthur messages me that he's happy I'm with Aoi
Is there some secret harem option or is this a bug?
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>>507614596
First, sit down and take a deep breath
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>>507614392
Country isn't specified, but the IRA would cheer at the Crimson Watch being blown up wherever they are
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Huh, I'm dating Lettie, we confessed to each other, there's the prompt to break up, no option to date the others... and yet she appears as best friend on KIM plus she's not in my room. Will the status change tomorrow? I'm assuming it does not update in real time.
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>>507614392
I suspect potato nation was ethnically cleansed in this timeline.
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>>507614715
pretty sure you need Loved for them to appear in your room
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>>507614715
see >>507611801
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>>507614596
>what the fuck do i say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6wOr5VkUeQ
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>>507614715
If you became best friends today and you are certain you are dating her she will be in the backroom tomorrow with a changed status.
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Rebb... goon fuel... por favor...
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>>507614715
DE's changes to relationship progression put a limit on how much you can rank up in one day, it'll likely get to Loved tomorrow if you've generated enough chemistry. If not keep spamming gifts and running bounties
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i switched to drifter to speak with her
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>>507614771
my people...
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>>507602416
Your racism against Whites shouldn't be tolerated in Warframe
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>1999 and jade shadows seems like its splitting the drifter/operator stories
>the drifter goes back in time to make friends, fall in love and fuck
>the operator stays in the future to experience dying in childbirth
feels like one of them is getting the short end of the stick in this arrangement
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Hound or Diriga
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its locked in
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>>507615205
Yep
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>>507615205
You are missing a key factor here. The operator is supposed to get a entire face lifting while drifter is stuck with a objectively worse face range. So don't worry it seems they have enough content for the child they want to remake the entire character creator just for it.
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>>507615509
When DE learns how to make human faces, face prosthetics and tats will sell better.
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>>507615348
This is how Nidus was created btw
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>>507615252
Diriga is the best for energy economy and using Guardian. Wyrm for Negate. Panzer for Viral. Huras for casters who don't need energy economy out of a pet. I pretty much always run Diriga.
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>>507590037
Kill 500 Scaldra with abilities.
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>>507615006
>>507614919
>>507614789
>>507614790
I figured that it would be the case the game just doesn't update these things until reset. Thanks everyone.
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>>507615252
For priming? Hound.
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>>507616275
My beautiful Protea did it in 5 minutes on SP hellscrub.
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>>507616230
>>507616472
People say that the hounds are great for priming, but I keep finding the diriga immediately putting max stacks on all enemies I look at faster, so I just do not get it.
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>>507615252
Diriga for manifold bond + guardian combo. If you are playing a frame without shields probably hound.
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>>507616723
Dirga moves with you, while the hound will do a lap over a entire room and prime everything for you in advance.
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bwos.... i dont have gemini skins so i cant put my wife on display in my home
also you degenerates can put someone there to be cucked by you, or cuck you while youre away
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>>507590037
>Pick steelpath hellscrubber mission
>Pick melee frame of choice
>Turn off brain for 3 minutes
Whats the problem here exactly
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>>507616919
I own all of the gemini skins and have zero interest in anyone cucking anyone
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>>507616754
I am playing Styanax, and my goal is to get max stacks of viral on enemies as fast as possible.
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>>507616970
>okina incarnon
you didnt play the game
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>>507617054
I never play him, he spends a lot of time in the air yeah? Hound may be better then.
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>>507617054
For Viral, Panzer does it better. Styanax isn't really at range to proc Diriga too consistently with all the flying.
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i want to date lettie but my drifter's a girl, n i dont wanna be a fag
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>>507617123
>>507617175
I posted about this a few threads ago, but I am doing a meme build that involves grouping enemies with his one and then using reave to one-shot them with strength and viral because I like styanax, but I am exhausted of nourish overguard spam four styanax.
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>>507617247
Your drifter will get her cheeks clapped either way
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>>507617106
Its meta but I really like the moveset. I am a melee enjoyer and open to other suggestions that don't feel like shit in steel path.
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>>507598107
Because if I play with three other people and get the most kills, that means I win.
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>>507617247
nvm i can't date lettie anyway, i guess i bricked it when i didn't confess
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>>507609369
Told ya man. Eclipse is MADE for contagion zaws. Also it's been YEARS and it hasn't been nerfed, even when they reworked Eclipse, so don't worry.
Also you got me checking stuff and FUCK, Arcane Crepuscular is a FINAL crit multiplier after values AND it scales with crit chance directly. It gives you +3x final crit count PER tier like tenacious bond does. Definitely a must for my wisp setup. Also I tested regular and duplicate sets and the difference in total crit multiplier isn't that bad, so either are acceptable. Main difference is that you have a lower floor damage with duplicate, but you free up 2 mod slots (blood rush and galv reflex).
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>>507613090
Will the chat reset after the season ends as well? I'd love to do a Renegade Shepard run so to speak.
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oh damn the harrow deluxe FUCKS
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>>507617432
If you have Equilibrium AND are doing grouping at a range Diriga can Arc Coil, between Mystic Bond and Synth Deconstruct you will be fine in energy economy. If you subsume a channeled ability, you can also use Seismic Bond. But again, Diriga's range is kinda ass.
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>50% off for Christmas
Fuck.
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>>507617659
Cumclave mindset.
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>>507617432
Diriga is pretty dirt cheat to just flat out buy. Get it and try it out, I love mine.
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>>507617801
>Arcane Crepuscular is a FINAL crit multiplier after values AND it scales with crit chance directly. It gives you +3x final crit count PER tier like tenacious bond does.
yeah I get some silly !! numbers with the right setups loool I really like crepuscular a lot, and you can see it makes even my flat unconditional rape enough face with no rampup hardcore when I add in eclipse, thanks!
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>>507617949
>Will never be able to date yonta because she's a force ghost or whatever
pain
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>>507617949
>We're going to Tau~
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Cyte-09 is fun and the new Vesper looks cool. Although not sure if the pistol acuity mod on it is a good idea, and I thought multishot + viral 60/60 + hemorrhage + cannonade was a better idea since it has high impact and a small damage type pool. Are we getting to the point where we can crit so high that you don't need armor bypassing stuff?
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i fucking LOVE shoving my face into walls
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>>507618223
>because she's a force ghost
You don't have level 5 Holdfast? Yikes.
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>>507618370
shes still a ghost bro, they just find a cure for their void aids, but they're all still dead
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>>507618167
I'm curious about your wisp build too. I've been reworking all my frames in order of release and I'm almost at wisp, so it'll be nice to see.
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>>507618370
I do but they are still ghosts. She even says so in that image which is rank 5.
They might make a quest that unghosts them, but currently they cannot leave the zariman.
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>>507618358
The most sane Gauss fan
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>>507618358
which is it, gauss main, titania main or 'i just played a fissure with volt'
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i fucking LOVE shoving my face into balls
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>Put Camisado and summon aura on Nekros
>Pump up strength
>They still do shit damage unless they're a jade eximus
Why can't we have anything good?
>"BRO JUST SUBSU-"
No.
>"BRO JUST PRIME TH-"
No. I should be able to work with my kit as is.
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>>507618223
>This faggot over here won't date a ghost.
Truly a shame.
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>>507618631
The most honest Octavia enjoyer
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>>507618713
i fucked her with my rhino
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>>507618223
GHOST JOB
GHOST JOOOOOB
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>>507618713
Does anybody else find it weird wisps invis ability don't actually make her invisible? I have no clue why they did it that way.
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>>507617787
Theres always next year
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>>507618884
So you can aim your landing.
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>>507618884
They probably thought that it would be annoying to have the model constantly fading and recoloring.
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>>507617054
>>507617175
>>507617432
Just to be sure but what about the new Arcane? The one that huge Overguard causes a ton of Viral stacks.
Sounds godly on Styanax and Dante. No Nourish, no companion Primer
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I don't know why, but it feels like there's a bug that fucks with the game speed. Extraction timers are slowed down by like 5 times, the tank's invulnerability phase is extremely long, enemies move really slowly, revives are somehow also really long. Anyone else has this happening or I'm unlucky enough to have really really laggy hosts every time?
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>>507617106
>>507616970
qrd in okina incarnon?
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>>507618884
Because it would hide the assets the devs worked very hard on.
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>got 75% today
Coincidence or is Christmas rigged?
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>>507619292
On top of being a very powerful weapon it's special frozen daggers jump to other targets via melee influence. IIRC the only other weapon in the game that can do that are the dual ichors which are a similar levels of OP.
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>>507619403
Give it to me. I deserve it.
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>>507619206
I think you're accounts borked it's only giving you mobile/switch hosts
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is a multishot firerate grimoire riven good? theres literally nothing else just positives.
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>>507619482
Oh cool, guess I'll grab it next month if I don't forget again
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>grimoire
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>>507619403
Christmas fuckery for sure, I got a 50%er.
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>he doesn't workout in the library
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>>507619608
hey man i just got the riven i didnt get the weapon
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>>507619513
Nah, even happened with PC hosts.
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>>507619403
Your coupon, give that to me
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>AYO THIS NIGGA JUST POSTED AN OFF META WEAPON?
>LOOOOOOOOOOOOL PICK UP A TORID NIGGA
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>>507619578
It's one of the few incarnons you can buy anytime from the zariman with plat.
Really they should all be that way, but "digital extremes" and "consistency" are practically antonyms in the dictionary.
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>>507618520
this with ophanim eyes is what I've been running for a while, since I caved on running higher strength than just tripe umbrals a while back for the extra slow/strip - it works seamlessly with eclipse, and if I care enough to make a serious build I could go for higher strength/duration or bring in the team buff augment (like I used to when I was trying eclipse out as my daily driver initially)

also, I appreciate the absurdly complicated set of interacting multipliers you're using to make that shiny spreadsheet work and get that nice output, but in practice do you personally consider the galvanized stuff as a given or assumed minimum? I ask because I tried running with them for a while and too often found myself effectively with my pants down by having falling out of full buffs on one front or another, totally antithetical to my on-demand/un-conditional approach, and went right back to my double sacs duplicate setup for anything but specific tryhard memes
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>>507619756
This, but without a hint of irony. Also main Revenant.
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fascist dictator aside, is viktor really all that bad? He keeps us safe from the techrot
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Almost out of ferrite, guess it's time to wrap it up and retire
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>>507619553
Yes but usually I want an Element too because Grimoire’s electricity hampers Cascadia Flare and the Riven has to compete with a slot so that saves space
I haven’t used it in 1999 to know if its different now
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>all but one of the sentient themed tennogen syandanas clip through caliban
pain
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Hey is the 1999 poster not supposed to match it's icon? Looks like a landscape style poster but placing it shows its taller than it is wide?
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>>507619993
Fucks up those faggots from the Hex, so I guess he can't be all that bad
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>>507620209
use different animations
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>>507619993
>fascist dictator
He and Rusalka were delegated to eradicate the techrot by the government. It's in the comic. They aren't usurpers or invaders just the nations armed forces.
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>>507619993
He murders civilians to take their homes as strategic positions.
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Any primary crux enjoyers? I'm trying out a rank 2 version, doesn't feel too bad.
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>>507620369
isn't there some implied coup against the royal family or some shit?
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>>507620461
No, Entrati was working for the government on a cure and dissapeared. Scaldra are supposed to contain the techrot and retrieve his work on the medicine(which doesn't exist what they think was the cure was the Helminth)
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>>507620460
I love it, but I'm also a shitter who like high RoF and status weapons so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>507620718
Star wars looking area
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>>507620460
It's real fun on the acceltra.
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>>507619052
I thought about that, but I have his four subsoomed off.
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>>507620425
Anon, those were active combatants
I saw one of them reaching
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>Anime glyph
Sign of an absolute faggot that nobody loves.
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Excuse me but why aren't these 40 year old women virgins?
I am so it seems only fair
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So... Koumei, she exists. You know that, right?
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>>507621113
She's good.
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When is DE going to rework Drifters/Operators to look and move like normal people? The Hex looks miles better than our characters
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What happens if I attempt new years again?
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>>507621060
Drifter isn't a virgin, kiddo. He at the very least fucked Mathila and definitely Luscinia seeing as Thrax guards her so jealously.
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Why does DE continue to cover every map with pieces of random trash that only exists for you to get stuck on
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>>507620460
aiming at a heavy guy's face with my bramma then going back to exploding over jobbers' heads is really satisfying, yes, it's replaced deadhead which had replaced merciless for me after the ammo nerf
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>>507621223
Aoi and Elanor look weird.
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>>507621223
Operator/Drifter are genetically closer to Ostrons than to the Hex.
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>>507621226
You want spoilers? You need to be a certain rank to attempt it btw.
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>>507621223
I just want them to make warframes 1.15x their current size because they're all driftlets by comparison
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tl;dr: this is a list for when to use Secondary Enervate if your pistol only has one crit mod. Make sure you keep % damage somewhere in your build.

For Christmas I got everyone new pistol builds and you (probably) don't even need to change your forma. Here are some benchmarks for when R5 Secondary Enervate with Hornet Strike is better on average than % damage arcanes and one crit chance mod. I probably won't do the full math tonight if ever for Enervate+crit chance mod vs two crit chance mods, but the one stat line I did check was somewhat ahead of Deadhead/Merciless and somewhat behind Flare.

>>Secondary Deadhead/Merciless with Primed Pistol Gambit
>2.0 crit damage 28% crit chance or below
>2.2 30%
>3.0 32%
>>Cascadia Flare with Primed Pistol Gambit
>2.0 16%
>2.4 20%
>3.0 24%
Assuming you have Lethal Torrent
>>Merciless/Deadhead with Creeping Bullseye
>2.0 37%
>2.4 39%
>3.0 40%
>>Cascadia Flare with Creeping Bullseye
>2.0 26%
>2.4 29%
>3.0 33%
Higher base crit chance isn't bad for Secondary Enervate, but it's proportionately better for crit mods. Flat crit chance (except Smeeta) reduces the gap between builds, but the build that was ahead still stays ahead. I assume Smeeta overrides Enervate, but haven't tested it to see if there's some weird exception. If you didn't notice from the above stats, crit damage favours Enervate. Other sources of % damage favour Secondary Enervate.

Despite having a higher average performance, I would expect Secondary Enervate to feel bad on slow guns. Going through the cycle slower means longer continuous stretches at low power. The impact of being unlucky would also feel way worse, because you don't go through as many cycles to bring your performance closer to average.
Secondary Enervate is one of if not the best upgrades/enhancements DE has ever made. There are objective thresholds where it's better or worse than its alternatives, but also the pacing/play pattern of it is such that it's reasonable to sacrifice damage for comfort.
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>>507621419
I'm already rank 3 you don't have to spoil story wise I just wanna know if it resets progress or anything like that
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>>507617801
Is that spreadsheet available online somewhere?

I've been thinking about writing a web app that would allow for calculating DPS, TTK etc while taking into account other factors, similar to the frame/shard options in your pic.
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>>507620256
I love this even more with the 4chan christmas snow over it
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>>507621506
No it doesn't lock you from anything. Currently it just gives noggles as a reward, but will almost certainly be required for later quests.
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>>507617801
>both crit tiers calculated and then weighted
Do you need to do that? Doesn't the average bonus you get from crit simplify down to adding crit chance*crit damage?

Thinking about it actually and looking at some of my other sheets I might have fucked up the math for this >>507621480
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>>507619834
Not really fond of triple umbra desu. Also since I'm jumping at all times and basically being invisible 99.9% of the time I don't see much of a point for adaptation either, since I rarely get hit. If you're doing contagion Zaw wisp youd efinitely want vigorous swap, and if you're using violet archon shards you should slot in any version fo flow to get over 500 energy max for the crit damage bonus to be x2.
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Is the reconifex a meme weapon?
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>Got to the conversation where you can tell Aoi to be your girlfriend or best friend
>trying to get to Eleanor first since she was my first choice ever since 1999's gemini reveals
Rebb, ffs, why'd you make her so down for us? She's the first one available to date but I can't break that girl's heart
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>>507622292
Yeah, but it's reload mechanic should be on more weapons.
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>>507621465
If anything Drifters are too tall and lanky. They look inhuman lol. Base Male Drifter should be around Excalibur height and Female Drifter around Nyx.
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>>507622292
No. I run it in SP all the time now.
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>>507622357
That conversation has no consequences. You need to ask her in the mall for it to stick if you don't it will lead into the friends path. Also you can stop dating at any time switch your GF and then repeat it and return to the original one. So don't worry you have time to think it through.
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>>507622292
It did well enough for level cap
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>>507622534
Rule 63 skins when
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Okay I found it, something's fucked up with Nekros's shadows of the dead.
When you have them summoned, it makes the host's game stutter like crazy, and not stutter as in memory leak or lower fps, stutter as in "you play a video but you keep mashing the pause button" until it's completely unplayable. And it goes away the moment your summons die. Worked on the archon interception mission which made the captures be really slow, worked on a corpus hijack which made the vehicle despawn for like 30 seconds, worked on the tank assassinate with a 100% reproduce rate.
However, it works fine when I play solo or when I unequip a maxed Arcane Camisado, so the latter might be fucked somehow. Anyone wants to give it a try with a similar build to see if it's just me or the game being broken?
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>>507621631
I made it. Spent a whole day writing formulas an adding a whole database with all the melee weapons. I guess I could make a copy public, but I haven't finished writing formulas for the chance of status per element. (IE how often you'd get electric status per hit, for example.)
>>507622213
The whole crit formula is more complex than that. It is 1 + Crit Chance Tier x (Crit Damage Multiplier - 1). Also you gotta check if damage types are multiplicative with each other or not, or flat values. For example laetum's Devouring Attrition +2000% is multiplicative with regular damage stuff like Cascadia Flare, while Overwhelming attrition's +1200% is additive.
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>>507622604
You can start dating her via IM only.
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>>507622265
I really strongly prefer an unconditional approach in that I want to be able to fuck shit up when I've just spawned or reset for whatever reason while jumping through no hoops (with the option for some if I need them), or if I'm standing in a nullifier bubble or a teammate draws fire toward me or anything like that, and be able shrug off most incoming attacks if I'm feeling lazy or inattentive and umbrals + adaptation with any source of regen lets me accomplish that with minimal effort

like, honestly, what do you "need" that strength for that you couldn't sacrifice for some quality of life or memes?

>If you're doing contagion Zaw wisp youd efinitely want vigorous swap
too conditional for me, magus aggress by comparison has a lasting effect unless you blow it on direct attacks
>and if you're using violet archon shards you should slot in any version fo flow to get over 500 energy max for the crit damage bonus to be x2
sure and all the stuff I've posted is without that, just the tenacious bond +1.2x bonus, because that's my daily driver wisp with 4 parkour + 1 casting speed shard - this is my dedicated melee wisp with 5x tauforged violet melee crit shards, on which I'll be trialing eclipse over wrathful advance on your advice (and maybe not using the old-fashioned max base damage zaw from before the buffs, since I won't be getting the chance buff from wrathful advance)
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>>507623157
It's probably checking the arcane conditions on seven entities way too fast if I had to guess
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>>507622007
just did it and found out, it was cool
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>>507623353
I had a max Eleanor broke up with her went to my best friend Aoi asked to date. Checked out her convos and then went back to Eleanor. That's my expirience.
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>>507623509
My guess is that it transfers that info to the clients incorrectly or vice versa, which in result makes the host's game lag more and more until it completely breaks.
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I wish they had made the backroom Conclave terminal just like the ship one so I could make another toilet stall
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>Amir is my first best friend
Yeah, thats fine.
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>>507623675
I like the music at the end.
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>>507623875
>forgot the top right icons because I didn't see them in the preview
fuck

>>507620256
here's the poster i was talking about, wasn't it supposed to be wider rather than taller?
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Most hex dialogue is just:
>"Normal understanding response"
>"The most comically evil thing you could say"
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>>507624389
>"Why is this system so hard!"
>chose the obviously evil response
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>>507623434
Anon... My setup is almost as unconditional as it'll get. Vigorous swap triggers EVERY TIME you throw a contagion, because you HAVE TO AIM to glide so you swap between your gun and your melee per throw. It's literally active 100% of the time unless you somehow decide to hard swap to melee only. The 'condition' might as well not exist. Please test it before telling me it's too conditional.

As for the other stuff. Why are you standing in a nullifier bubble? You're using zaws, you kill enemies from afar, not get into melee distance. Also if you're using zaws you're gonna be in the air most of the time for the bonus stealth famage of being invisible, so why are you getting hit? It feels so weird that you're slotting in 5 violet shards and putting in all this survivability you won't use instead of a single flow mod that'll get you enough crit damage to kill stronger enemies.
It just feels so weird. You're jumping constantly, so adaptation will barely trigger, if at all. Umbral Vitality is meh when you already get so much health from the motes, and Fiber is more or less semi-useless because wisp doesn't have massive amounts of armour. Instead of using umbral fiber + arcane battery you could easily just put in flow and free up your arcane slot for a more useful arcane for wisp.
At least this build has over 500 energy so that's much better. It just confuses me in the same way, like you say "What do you "need" that strength for" in the same way I ask you "What do you need all that survivability for when you're almost always invisible."
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>>507624389
They should have used a version of the moral compass for chats
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Remember you're stuck in hell kiddo
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>Exalted weapons count as ability kills
Cool, always assumed they were just weapon kills.
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the streets of hollvania were made for gauss
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>>507624389
>>"The most comically evil thing you could say"
Yes.
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>>507624693
hell no Im not
*closes tab*
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>>507624693
I loved this shit. Wally/the indifference(?) hijacking the texts was kino.
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>>507624960
Drifter did see all his friends and family get VOIDED and then was stuck for eternity-1 in Duviri. It's not an entirely inappropriate response.
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>>507622534
Anon, every single frame in the game has the same exact height with 0 exceptions
No, their silly large heads do not count towards their height, it's an illusion
Set the same animation on a few and scroll through them
Look at the height of their necks and bases of their heads
Your picture has one of them higher than the other
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Who is fatter, Mag or Nova?
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>>507625425
Megan
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>>507624667
you have a bizarrely short attention span, dogmatic outlook, and presumptive approach to engaging with someone whose approach is different than yours - we're not playing different games, I assume, but you're clearly not observing and experiencing the things I am

most of your questions are answered by just thinking about it, or even referring to your own words, but most significantly you're putting your dogmatic assumptions forth as conditions for all gameplay and you're saying some really stupid shit as a result

>Please test it before telling me it's too conditional
please read and consider that maybe, just maybe, yes other players might actually swap to their melee or not want a timed buff dependent on which weapon slots they have access to or have active at any given time, like are you fucking kidding me? I expressed a personal opinion, and qualified it as such, but that is the definition of conditional my dude

in your evident analytic capacity, why are you not able to imagine that maybe there literally exist suboptimal or incidental gameplay scenarios when I'm not perfectly 30 meters away with all of my buffs active? this baffles me, and moreover you go on to address a non-existent scenario involving shards and flow that I literally just explained to you does not exist (TWO wisps in play: daily driver, 4 yellow parkour + 1 yellow cast speed, and melee with 5 violet melee shards which VISIBLY HAS THE 500 ENERGY AND RESULTING CRIT BONUS you are bitching about)

I'm convinced people like you just get told by enough other social media users what's good and bad then see "bad thing" or "good thing" and shut off your curiosity and ability to imagine other perspectives from that point on
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>>507624667
>Not a single million damage hit in there
Yup. That's a kurolist from my level cap sp cascade lobbeies
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>>507623301
This is massively autistic, keep it up anon, its good.
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>Lettie chads get to come home to this everyday
I kneel....
https://youtu.be/t10rnm1NZhk?si=GxEyeTWhV0VBCmAo
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>>507625693
100% armor strip, overguard, and immortality are good, yes. her mini rework made her able to faceroll even the hardest content
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>>507623301
>1 + Crit Chance Tier x (Crit Damage Multiplier - 1
Yeah, I was checking some other tabs on this same sheet and I have this written in multiple places but it's been a while so I forgor when I started doing math for Secondary Enervate

>>507621480
Updated values for this
>>Secondary Deadhead/Merciless with Primed Pistol Gambit
>2.0 23%
>2.2 24%
>3.0 25%
>>Cascadia Flare with Primed Pistol Gambit
Assuming Lethal Torrent
>2.0 15%
>2.2 16%
>3.0 18% barely
>>Secondary Deadhead/Merciless with Creeping Bullseye
>2.0 28%
>2.2 28%
>3.0 29% barely
>>Cascadia Flare with Creeping Bullseye
>2.0 19%
>2.2 19%
>3.0 20%

I still stand by everything else I said in that post, although Secondary Enervate is better than Cascadia Flare on a lower amount of pistols.
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>>507625693
dogshit + hagframe + slagframe
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>>507626149
>hagframe
>slagframe
Those are good things though
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Did my first bio cache on the new map, got a pizza from it.
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>>507623301
Nice work anon, this is the best DPS spreadsheet I've seen so far.

As for making it public, that's up to you of course but it sounds like you want to flesh it out further first.

I haven't played for a year but the new mods/arcanes/changes make me want to finally do the whole 'all in one' thing, at least for guns initially.
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>>507625549
>autistic triple umbral wisp guy complaining about anyone else being dogmatic or not reading
hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha
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>>507625549
Anon. I literally just told you that the way you see me adding strength is the same way I see you adding survivability. I SAID that. Even before I just said I don't prefer umbral mods because I don't see the point, but I'm not saying "YOU'RE WRONG STOP USING DIFFERENT MODS". I mostly asked about your choices because I was curious about them. Also I DID MENTION THAT I NOTICED THE SECOND BUILD HAD OVER 500 ENERGY. Also you're literally the first person ever that has mentioned they Hard swap to melee instead of just hitting the melee button to attack, because that's the only situation where vigorous swap doesn't stay active 100% of the time.
>>507625605
Well duh, I had literally nothing active there. No buffs no eclipse no nothing. Here, theres your millions.
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>>507626754
Stop responding to triple umbral wisp. The guy used to argue for hours about 177% strength being enough, and now here he is with R9 Blind Rage.
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>>507626754
Uhhh, I can see the eclipse icon right there
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Honest question
Can you make Ash work in today's content? I'm not talking starchart but deep-dives in SP for fun
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>>507627274
Of course. All frames work for SP. Some just work better than others.
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often when i'm playing qorvex someone remarks at seeing him, like i'm a particularly rare extinct species. "oooo a qorvex" with the cadence they've just seen a dodo.
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>>507625667
Thanks! It happened because I got annoyed at sites not offering proper options for all crit calculations, and funny enough I made it specifically for my wisp's zaw to test which mods would be best for it.
>>507626118
No worries! I haven't tested ennervate in anything but kuva nukor, but it does seem like fire rate is a must for it.
>>507626528
yeah I'm trying to make it as detailed as possible. I literally just added the crepuscular multiplier to it and moved a few values around.
>>507627029
Yeah I don't think I will respond anymore. Thought we were just talking about different setups but they got mad all of the sudden just because I was confused about needing survivability on wisp.
>>507627056
I assume you're not the anon from the previous message, but let me explain so you get it better.
>>507625605 complained that there's not a single million damage in THIS >>507624667 screenshot, which had NO BUFFS active. So I took THIS >>507626754 screenshot which has Eclipse and buffs active.
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>>507626648
what, factually, am I wrong about? I'm trying to open someone's eyes with an obvious ability to refine insights and get them to stop being fucking retarded, it's sad to see someone willing to put in that much effort be that wrong

>>507626754
please working on your reading comprehension, go back and look it over again carefully if you actually care this much
>I was curious about them
strange, because all you did was tell me how they were suboptimal on the basis of assumed scenarios and reasoning that literally didn't apply or that I had in the immediate reply prior explained to you as my personal rationale (while ignoring those answers and still acting like I didn't just share my viewpoints with you)
like I don't know how many times I can spell out my approach and goals for you: unconditional, no ramp-up, shrug off attacks when shit hits the fan or I'm too lazy to bother reacting to things, and tuned to play the kind of weekly chores and few-rotations-in-SP DEAC I've gotten used to (all of which means that flat unconditional or passively scaling survivability and damage output neatly accomplishes what I want with the minimum effort)

I wear people just lose their minds when they see triple umbra mods
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>>507627401
I get the same reaction from using my revenant + torid
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>>507627401
last time I saw a qorvex was 3 months ago
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I have learned the hard way that its easier to turn a strong gun into a bullet hose than it is to turn a bullet hose into a strong gun.
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>>507627481
>just because I was confused about needing survivability on wisp
you attacked the notion on fictional bases when I had literally already demonstrated to you the ability to completely obliterate things way stronger than the stuff I face in DEAC without any offensive shards AND keep my quality of life approach intact

hopeless
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>>507627401
post build
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Can you pay half and half on plat?
I got a gift card for Christmas, but it doesn't cover the tax amount. I don't mind using my paypal just for that.
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>>507625862
Except for the overguard, she that the whole time. They just made bolts steal some overguard and propagate, which is a very welcome change, but hardly needed. I think the only thing inches he'd in my build was swapping cunning drift for power drift, but otherwise I press 2 and laugh all the way home. The energy normalization on Absorb is the biggest notable change, and even then I still use it as more an oh-shit button.
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>>507627274
Ash is old but it's not like invisibility and crits are somehow bad
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>>507627029
>The guy used to argue for hours about 177% strength being enough, and now here he is with R9 Blind Rage.
scroll up, retard, I literally explained that I only caved on that after ophanim eyes came out and I had a reason to actually want more strength for practical reasons
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>>507627869
>I changed* in my build**
Reminder not to drunk phone post friends
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>>507627401
Wonder what is it that makes him such a low pick rate?
He's not terrible, nor is he top tier.
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*sigh* Time to pay the girlfriend tax.
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>>507628089
>Wonder what is it that makes him such a low pick rate?
Honestly? Not enough YT "SUPER BROKEN OP QUEVEBUILD" to draw people in and shitters who can't do fashion past "slap some orokin colors on there"
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>>507625225
>this is misery Olympics
Can you not self-report that you don't have any real friends?
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>>507627518
I still remember the arguments from the start of the year about your dogshit wisp build. You try to have a discussion about something and then as soon as it deviates even the littlest bit from your own desires and use case you throw a tantrum, even if it's explicitly labeled as being for different purposes. Are you the same fag that threw a tantrum about Quellor and Plated Rounds a few weeks ago?
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>>507628089
no prime=no play
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>>507628025
why the fuck would I scroll up to read anything you have to say when at this point we have a year of you digging in your heels and refusing to acknowledge anything that multiple anons have repeatedly told you?
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Let's not fight, frens. Let's goon instead.
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>>507629035
I'm gooning to this fight frfr bout to bust on g
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>>507629035
The only GOONS here are the MAGGOTS squirming in MY thread!
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>>507599459
cute cute cute
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>cant put the protokol teksek skin on angstrum
waste of 5k standing fuck me
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>the 177 strength Wisp is sperging out in the thread on Christmas
like pottery
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>>507628709
>as soon as it deviates even the littlest bit from your own desires
what the fuck are you talking about? I literally disagreed with and changed my opinion and active choice in-game of things based on the exchange before it got un-constructive, and was grateful for it (and expressive of that gratitude) - it's very frustrating to go out of my way to explain myself because I know some explanation is needed, then have that partially or entirely ignored and other things about what I shared literally misread and then misconstrued/misunderstood as a result
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>>507629035
>>507629374
don't worry, yuros will wake up in a couple hours and the thread can go back spamming about NTR.
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>>507599732
>rat
It's a Chinchilla
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>>507629648
>rat but dusty fur
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>>507628834
oh, and what did I not acknowledge? that triple umbral wisp is "bad" for nebulous reasons that could never be specified when I actually tried to get a straight answer out of anyone? reading comprehension in this general fucking sucks, and the single-target instant full strip isn't useful anymore post-damage 3.0 but the only reasons I don't have 177% strength now are because I don't want that slot for the shuriken augment as a result of that change and because ophanim eyes performs noticeably better with higher strength

it's just dogma
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Found a fun interaction with Furax Amalgam Body Count and Melee Inflictions (using Seismic Palm Stance).

When you kill something, enemies around will get an extremely weak blast status. If you then punch an enemy and proc afflictions (which goes off alot with this stance) itll add 6 blast stacks seemingly updated with the weapon's damage and do alot of damage.

Felt like sharing, thought it was interesting.
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>>507624389
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>Playing through Jade Shadow
Why was Ballas such an asshole haha
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>>507630069
Neat, will try this out.
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>"We're lucky that couch is strong, aren't we"
I wasn't gonna buy any of the gemini skins but I'm loving Aoi too much.
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>>507629035
none of you are my friends and all I care about is an analytically sound approach that doesn't dismiss evidence or hold assumptions as sacred
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>>507630138
did you hide a final option or is that all youre allowed to say? if so, i will be cutting off the negro asap
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>>507624389
Nah, it's more like.
>Normal response.
>Female response
>Autistic comment
>Autistically mean comment.
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>>507630138
and yet a trannoid still got triggered by one slipped pronoun in the arthur duviri chat that referred to the drifter as "him"
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>>507629796
It's definitely SOME kind of rodent that does not actually exist, because they're Kuaka's ancestor, or something. Even something like a jerboa, which has huge legs, does not have huge arms, with noticeable elbows and shoulders. Swole-ass "rats".
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Kinda funny the triple umbral wisp faggot thinks vigorous swap is too conditions, literally just attacking with your zaw activates it but it's too conditional for him, while magus aggress that requires an operator melee transfer and has a cooldown of 20 seconds isn't conditional to him.
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reading comprehension fail, again
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>>507629374
Isn't the brain dead wisp build to just pump strength and keep range/duration neutral?
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>>507629603
>what the fuck are you talking about?
This is exactly what I'm talking about you fucking sperg. >>507629835
>nebulous reasons that could never be specified
Multiple people told you directly and repeatedly that Wisp doesn't need survivability beyond her basic kit with high ability strength. You disagreeing with that because you wanna have a loadout for minimum effort and maximum error margin gameplay is whatever, but this isn't "nebulous reasons that could never be specified". People have told you extremely clearly what was bad and you just refuse to acknowledge it.

Are you the dude that was freaking out about epistemology when Jade Shadows released? I distinctly remember asserting and him either ceding or even outright agreeing that he was literally autistic and had significant trouble communicating. It would explain so fucking much if you're that guy.
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i dont know i just play gauss
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>>507625775
Arthur keks???
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>>507630798
That's the default wisp build because it's what wisp wants most. Braindead/retarded is using triple umbral and going "177% strength is enough because... because it is! Why do you need more strength?!"
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>>507599732
pretty sure it's supposed to be a "this is a pobber/kuaka ancestor" visual indicator. we havent seen a cat or dog yet but I wouldnt be surprised if the cat had a forked tail and the dog had a bat nose.
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>>507630869
Is thermal sunder augment in line with the elemental add augments where they don't interact with modding anymore?
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The sex update when? It's kinda awkward just having Aoi in my room. I can't even touch her since there's like an invisible wall around her
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>>507630586
That was all
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>>507630928
Honestly fuck that stupid bitch Aoi
Arthur deserves way better than her
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>>507630708
Maybe it's a "tech-rotted" rat
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>>507630604
No wonder anons struggle with finding the right option between the four.
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>>507631010
I wish she had something less orthodox like a possum for example
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>>507630987
careful dude. You disingenuously representing his argument to insult him is gonna is gonna trigger another melty about reading comprehension and all the academic ways we need to prove the things that we know
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>>507631069
yes
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>>507631104
Eleanor..
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>>507630847
>you just refuse to acknowledge it.
how and when? I acknowledged plenty of times that it's redundant in ideal scenarios, you can go look that shit up in the archives if you care, and then qualified my reasoning with exactly that I want to mitigate my worst case scenarios and extreme laziness - like there is a real issue of misaligned semantics here and you're not even correct about what I'm (very admittedly) being so bullheaded regarding

a build having redundancies to a frame's kit when built or played conventionally or naively to anything but a constant best case scenario yet catering to my lazy gameplay style is not "bad" and can't be qualified on that basis alone

>It would explain so fucking much if you're that guy.
yes obviously I am because nobody else is this pedantic and I've literally had this conversation with someone ITT already, and to rehash that it's the EXACT same hierarchical problem like some fucking classic greek comedy error in logic where my whole thing was that from the story and all available evidence and reasonable inferences without making logical leaps we cannot know that jade would have or would not have wanted orion (despite it also and not contradictorily being obviously the choice associated to her and that being one of the few most plausible reasons one could imagine along with stalker picking it for his own motives in relation to her or her memory)
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>>507631198
>comprehend
>academics
Reminded me of when anons finally translated Somali
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Did they stealth fix mag? her pull feels a lot more reliable and responsive now, and I kinda dont remember her 2 sending out an explosion when the timer runs out. I don't play her often though so maybe I just didn't notice that
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>>507631489
shit I mean sirius, you know what I mean (it's what I would have wanted)

>>507631198
>>507630987
I did sincerely ask why the other poster "needed" more strength and never got a good answer, even though I was more than willing to present scenarios and rationale for why I preferred my survivability and qol mods when asked why I "needed" them and have presented rationale for why you don't really need more than a bit of extra strength to very effectively take advantage of wisp's kit in DEAC (something none of you have addressed, even in light of the fact that I also have the biggest possible strength buff builds ready to go for when I want to actually fuck with them)
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I want the new Infestation content! I was promised infestation content!
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i love Lettie
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>>507632149
Mastery isn't content.
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I've been ignoring Euro hours for the past couple days. Has anyone done this yet?
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>>507625693
Yes much better than trinity "rework" which did fuck all
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>>507631963
>angel in the streets, demon in the sheets
Aoi best girl
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>>507631913
I said I'm not gonna bother responding anymore, but you keep on going, so it won't change if I respond or not.
Anon, I literally told you, again, that I need more strength in the same way you need more survivability. We play in different ways. I need more strength because everything I use benefits from it. Motes health regen (which I use for my aura, not because I get hit since invisible mos tof the time) is affected by it. Also movement speed and attack speed. Also the multipliers from breach surge sparks are affected by strength. Also eclipse itself is affected by strength and it multiplies my zaw damage twice. If I don't need survivability, then of course I'm gonna focus on strength because it lets me kill acolytes, demolists, and everything else I want and the only thing I gotta do is cast my motes and eclipse from time to time. Breach surge as well if I'm doing super high level content. EVERYTHING ELSE (Vigorous swap, Arcane avenger, and so on) is fulfilled automatically by me just playing the game and attacking. Now please calm down. I even left the conversation here for a while to just play the game and rank up weapons I just got
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>>507632414
Cosmetics are.
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>>507631963
This update is pure, unfettered kino.
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Why are you arguing over that in the first place cuties? Wisp is shit anyway
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So you don't get a Hex hanging out in your Backrooms if you don't romance any of them, I suppose? No just having friends hang out at your place?
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>>507632784
She is an ugly gook tho
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>>507633194
Nope, you gotta romance them and reach loved with them so they move in.
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>>507633156
You spelled Oberon wrong.
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>Dialogue with Aoi reveals that all the Hex can hear the Helminth
>Eleanor still threatened to snog it after hearing it.
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>>507633306
>eleanorkek cope
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I just tried the Stropha and it seems really good? I feel like it shines like the Corufell, on a heavy attack build.
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>>507632815
first fuck you don't tell me to calm down I can sperg calmly
but okay, so specifically what I'm getting is what you need it to kill things more quickly? like the attack speed or move speed buffs between, for example a 177% or a 300% build or higher is that significant to you, and in the range of content you regularly play? because see that helps me understand your perspective and why it might be different better when you outline it literally, since I've tried playing with a range of approaches like this and simply found that wasn't the case beyond a pretty generously low positive strength threshold on her kit

I also already explained how in my obviously quite different approach the alternatives to (or simple absence of) some of those conditional hoops still work just fine for me to casually roflstomp things in a timely manner, and did go out of my way to specify that I was not taking issue whatsoever with us disagreeing or having divergent approaches but the set of assumptions and kind of meta/dogmatic framing you used in your criticisms (not questions) of my builds so I don't know why you or others are acting like I'm just annoyed that someone doesn't play the way I do when literally nobody I've met plays the way I do and I wouldn't expect them to
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>got a 75% plat discount
>>>actually have a rush of pleasure from getting plat in-game via trades
Being a Corpus is the actual gameplay
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>>507631963
Gold isn't even magnetic, dumb bitch
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>>507633156
you're shit, shut your whore mouth
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>>507633735
>Gold isn't even magnetic, dumb bitch
She is so fucking stupid lmao
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>>507633834
>you're shit, shut your whore mouth
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>take on a solium mobile defense and leave squads open
>have reconifex
>a jade joins with a reconifex
>it's all bullets, all violence
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>>507633946
yeah that's me what about it faggot
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>>507633997
I'm tempted to try it, nothing else to spend my standing on anyways besides arcanes.
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>>507631963
the hits just keep on coming
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>>507634189
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>>507632508
Is that a rice cooker
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>Vesper 77’s silencer isn’t for fashion - it’s actually silent
>THAT GUN THAT DEALS A GADGILLION PER BULLET IS SILENT
>it doesn’t break invisibility so you can use shit like Crepuscular and immortal invisible frames unimpended
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>>507634321
For me? It's the line where she wants to have sex while you fly around in the archwing, superman style.
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>>507634176
If you like ARs/LMGs it's pretty fun, the mag is huge enough to not need to worry about reloading too often unless you crank the fire rate out the wazoo, and the timed reload eliminates the need to waste any mods on the speed anyway as well as axes one of the big downsides of those sorts of weapons. Mix the heat reloads or Cyte's resupplies with multishots and certain ability/arcane stacks of it, and it melts shit.
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>>507634336
That's the conclave console- something way less useful than a rice cooker.
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Why do I hear the void angel zariman noise in the murmur labs sometimes?
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>>507633484
>actually think she was going to kiss it and not understanding it was her messing with you and telling you to give your girlfriend some attention
Autists. All over the shop.
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>>507634004
Cute
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>>507633674
Yeah it's actually great! Just a trip, a single shot can fulfil Discipline merit completely, so you can heavy attack for free immediately after. I do this for influence + heavy attack max combo, but heavy attack spam with reflex is perfectly viable as well.
>>507633693
The difference between the 177% strength and the amount of strength in my build is 35% attack and movement speed vs 88% attack and movement speed. It is a SIGNIFICANT difference so yeah. Also that buff does affect the contagion projectile's speed unlike base attack speed so it does help me both move considerably faster and let my projectile hit farther faster.
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>>507634407
Euphona Prime exists. But yes, certain synergies are thought about in advance, like the gun having an innate weakpoint bonus, and a new mod with weakpoint bonuses.
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>>507634557
it's part of the mixing
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Haven't played since Volt Prime released, and that was on PS4. If I start up again on PC, will I have all my shit from back then or am I fucked?
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>>507633674
Unless you're doing dumb exploiting crap, Heavy Attack build is the way to go, and Gunblades have disproportionately high Heavy Attack damage relative to their base. They're only behind Kogake P and Hespar, and Arca Titron.
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>grinded chemistry too hard
>checked KimBrowser
>Missed out a ton of conversations
>mfw

Alright well, I'm not doing that shit again.
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>>507634920
Yeah you can cross save now
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like I can always do this and now I know specifically how and why it's so much better than I thought which is awesome, but it's so much overkill and I'll never use it like that when I can probably get by with a 80-95% range buff instead and see how that works in place of ophanim eyes (if I don't miss the slow too much since I realistically don't "need" the damage)

>>507634852
>It is a SIGNIFICANT difference so yeah.
alright, that's understandable then

I just really like my shit to work reliably even without buffs and for one action to be enough to deal with a target enemy or group so the attack speed ends up being less material beyond a minimum noticeable improvement on a slow attack (and I don't have a strong reliance on my abilities to buff my damage enough for breach sparks to clear crowds either) - I also rely mostly on parkour so it's very much the same situation with move speed, a little extra is nice and can help some targets or pubs move along more smoothly but it doesn't take much to be a world of difference over nothing that I just never feel relatively with the crazy high strength builds outside specific scenarios
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>>507634920
not 100% sure on the process but I think you have to create a PC account first, then merge your playstation account into the PC one, with the playstation account as the primary.
>https://www.warframe.com/news/cross-platform-save
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>>507634920
You can link different platforms, but one system has to be the main account that overwrites any other systems setup so that they all share it appropriately, Tennogen items aside.
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Alchemy should be added to 1999
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>>507631584
I haven't seen this for a decade and I'm laughing between obnoxiously shrill hiccups, thank you
Merry Christmas
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>>507634407
1999 was a stealth ivara buff for Resurgence
RIP joberon
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>>507634407
I finally got my blueprints so I can bust that out with reconifex and quincy to play all together, I figure the S Y N E R G Y should be fun and fit well in 1999 for some levelling but I can't see it beating out my lex prime unless I misread the base stats or don't understand how the unique trait works
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>>507636420
It's not really a pistol for direct combat like the Lex Prime, it won't be beating damage handcannons you already had set for steel path. But it's the perfect supplement to stealthframe builds that hit weakpoints like a nuclear bomb and handily points them out to you in the middle of a fight.
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Normalize being a dickweed
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>>507636950
DO IT PUSSY
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>>507636578
it's... actually a lot closer than I realized for the base form which is what I really care about, with the added bonus of being silent and the +40% crit damage on aimed weakspots

the incarnon-buffed base crit chance and base damage on lex p still absolutely win for me, but I'll be giving the vesper some real love
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>>507627401
>>507628089
Because he has obvious issues that de will never address except with bandaid augments.
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Let us use arcanes on exalted weapons, you cowards
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>>507637815
But then people might actually play valkyr and garuda?
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Aoi surprised me hiding in the dark over here, not had her in the back yet
She picked a spot with no lighting besides the ephemera aura on my dorito
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Did I die?
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which graphic setting makes hair not look shit?
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>>507638193
lol
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is game broked?
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>>507638193
on the dogs you want TAA turned off I think or use the sharpen at like 30%
the character ones are down to color channels and lighting
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>>507638193
sorry anon, this one's a bit of a hairy situation
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>>507638164
I wish they just sat the fuck down instead of standing there like tards
Hell, I was betting that the town bicycle would re use her couch idle and laze around on mine but she's just standing there
I know she wants to lie down but Reb is not letting her
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>>507638193
turn aa off
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>>507638376
They're very sturdy and so can stand for long periods of time
I wonder if you can box in the spawn points or if they pick a different one depending on your decos
it would be funny for a hex to emerge from a pile of physics items at random
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>>507638518
If this is possible, then Umbra standing in the fucking Orbiter like the character of his own he is should be as well
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>>507638667
I stuck him in the display case to be chillin but yeah
they should be able to walk around if nothing else
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>>507638279
been borked for over a year
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How do you make the helminth charger useful? It's so cute.
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>>507638164
turn off Color Correction if it's on
It won't improve your lighting but it will vastly improve your video game
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>>507639394
I don't even know why that's a thing for video games
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>>507639546
Retarded, please ignore
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>>507639626
It's ok anon, you're surrounded by peers.
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>>507639394
I thought I had it off but I didn't, it's a little bit better
She's still slinking off into the darkness
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who do I have to harass to give us a nikana incarnon that gives us the same movement speed buffs as the praedos so I can keep my shinobi look without being slow as fuck
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arthur might just kill himself if he heard the things aoi said...
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>>507640361
Aoi is a whore
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>>507640361
...
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>>507640184
Just buy a skin and use a good weapon instead? There's plenty of Tennogen to keep the aesthetic of space pig-iron folder one quintillion times
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>>507640493
only in private, though, which is why she is best girl.
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>>507640608
Nikana skins are a trap because the scabbards are broke and will never be fixed
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>>507640669
>scabbards are broke and will never be fixed
What are you talking about? They're all working fine on my machine
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IT KILLS ME, IT BURNS
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>>507640669
Because of the way the hip holster animation swaps over to attacking and stuff, the blade clips out of them while running around or doing things in specific stances
I'm pretty sure the blades are normally occluded on the non-paid skins or weapons
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>>507640867
>>507640721
I mist
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Apex tank is more annoying than 60 eyes.
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>>507584025
Jesus donkey fucking Christ, does anyone know why every third enemy in Hollvania is a jade eximus?
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>>507641146
wrong, 1 sampaotes slam takes out like 70% of the weak spots.
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>>507641196
>slam
Do your parents know you're gay?
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>>507641323
>cries about boss
>doesn't want to make it easier
you're the bigger gay
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>>507641176
seasonal thing. next one's arson
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>>507641146
the adds are more annoying than the tank, phase 2 before infestation if you didn't stockpile another RPG is the only really bothersome stretch
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>>507641463
>Energy Leech
that's gonna be fun
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how do I mod the AX-52? gunco, acuity, crit damage, viral, fire rate and what else for the last 2 mods?
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>>507641463
It's not spring! It's December! What the fuck.
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>>507641446
>wasting time or plat on duviri
Ultimate gay.
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>>507641323
Slams are thematically sound unlike nourish.
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>>507627401
I can't remember the last time I saw Gyre other than me
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My Protoframe is strong.
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>>507641948
>admits he's a mrlet
cute
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>anon projecting his cuck fantasies onto eleanor
nobodies sitting in any chair here, you absolute faggots
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>>507642414
Eleanor is sitting on a chair known as my face
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people shit on vauban why? other than seethe about vector pads
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>he feels the need to reaffirm his need to put a ring on a town bike through posts like these
sad
just ride the bike while it's yours and be glad for it
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>>507641885
the IN-GAME calendar you dingus. seasons cycle weekly.
https://www.warframe.com/updates
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>>507642414
Reb needs to add a "sex" scenes. I don't even care if they're half assed or just implied and fade to a black screen.
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I so wish for another open world set entirely underwater
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>>507642414
Eleanor chads won in the end
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cuckframe 1999 status?
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>>507643042
>>507584182
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>>507584182
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
DRIFTER DOESN'T KNOW
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>>507642938
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>>507642414
does he know?
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>>507643216
HOLY
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>>507643216
Those mamatitas are gone, anon
She's nothing but infested flesh up there
The assflap and what's beneath it is the only source of things to enjoy
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>>507643216
That was fast
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>>507643216
https://youtu.be/20m00ohYASw?si=QMJUm1iBIaNZPDmC
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Who is the biggest warframe in the game?
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>>507643596
Girth-wise? Probably Chroma if you'll use his noble animation
Sevagoth prime is also quite wide
All frames have the same height though so there's no contest there
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>>507643596
Wukong
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>>507643216
>nasal bridge wrong
this aint lettie
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>>507643596
Grendel is quite chonky in the belly, atlas has wide shoulders, saryn has big breasts.
The opposite question is easily garuda deluxe.
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Nu-gua mines anon... I need you...
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>Santa didn't give me Reb
My Christmas was ruined
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I wish Quincy was less of a fag
he'd be cool
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>>507596880
it reminds me of VTMB
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aoi called me cutie...
im lr4...
bros....
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>>507644007
what I miss
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when do these hags get back in the office?
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>>507644142
a 55,555 word novella about Quincy
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>>507644417
When I'm done with them.
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>>507644515
oh sorry. take your time
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>>507643596
>>507584759
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>>507642414
Wait in line
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>>507644417
january
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>>507644817
my hotwife and my dogwife
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>Arthur prides himself on being a good cook
>Square spaghetti incident exists
Are bongs just like this by default?
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>>507642463
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>>507644889
UK food is considered the worst in the world.
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>>507645102
>nation of no taste shit talks nation that spanned the globe to catalog and maximize taste's food
Eat your raw fucking fish and plain rice.
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>>507645140
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>>507645140
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>>507645201
Contain yourself.
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>>507643596
Hildryn looks huge but probably just looks fat next to any other warframe for reference since they're all the same skeleton.
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>>507641463
>Spring
>Season of Fertility
>Jade Light
Cute.
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>>507642938
Tau open world entirely underwater fighting aquatic sentients. Modular sea-serpent Sentient companions.
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My parents divorced on Christmas eve, but hey at least I got Warframe, right?
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Question. Does Reconifex's perfect reload affect Hunter Munition procs? Or is it still crit only.
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>>507631489
>how and when?
I needed a break because it's exhausting going in circles with you. You're directly responding to a post explaining how, and the when is literally every time you start arguing with people. If an initial explanation for something dissatisfies you in whatever way, which is extremely easy to do because literally your autism is being triggered by a bunch of random shit as far as I can tell, instead of asking for further clarification you become belligerent, dismiss the explanation, and return to your original position. You're too condescending and self-assured to have productive conversations with normal human beings. Your attempts at reconciliation are token at best despite seeming to actually want it after tons of fucking badgering. Look at how fucking long it took you and how thorough undead anon's explanation had to be for you to to eventually come around to what he was saying.

>yes obviously I am because nobody else is this pedantic and I've literally had this conversation with someone ITT already
You're such a fucking annoying faggot hypocrite and insanely projecting about so many things. "Oh yeah, it's so obvious that I'm the same person behind both incidents" you mean the same way that it's obvious to everyone else that Sirius was meant to represent Jade, even if they phrased it ineptly? Aren't we supposed to prove things more rigorously? You accused undead anon of being dogmatic, but you're the one that keeps coming back to your initial points no matter how many people try to rebut them or reframe their positions as explicitly from a different purpose than your own as I already stated here >>507628709. You accused undead anon of having a short attention span, but when Jade came up I said and you agreed that you get hung up on details and lose the main point you were trying to make because you're too interested in tangents.
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>>507646435
>>507631489
I'm not even done with calling you a fucking hypocrite either but I ran out of characters. "Oh my position could be easily explained if you just thought about it" you mean like how you didn't think about undead anon's build and all he said to finally convince you was what the effects of the ability strength were? Fuck off. I'm not even gonna dig through the rest of the bullshit you posted because you're gonna continue to do what you've been doing any time a long argument comes up: ignore shit you don't like and return to your original position.
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>>507642689
This is gonna happen every three weeks? God damn it
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>>507643596
Dimensions? Atlas, Hyldrin or Grendel. Actual mass? Rhino.
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>>507646435
>Look at how fucking long it took you and how thorough undead anon's explanation had to be for you to to eventually come around to what he was saying.
>>507646591
>all he said to finally convince you was what the effects of the ability strength were?
These appear to be contradictory because I was mad and phrased it poorly. I could blame it on triple umbral anon's own inconsistency, which is something I've already brought up, but that's probably disingenuous and also it's another thing for him to latch onto and autistically shut down over. He kept on demanding things that became long and thorough explanations (which he rejected) and the thing that finally convinced him was something that he could have just thought about himself, which he demands of others but has poor capacity for himself.
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>>507646062
No, bro, you still have mcdonalds and soda!
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>>507646062
sorry bro. it's better than them bitching and fighting with each other every day. hopefully it was mutual?
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>>507640361
Arthur has his own backroom lines that could match this.



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