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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #7756 - Same Smile Edition

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Teaser Trailer
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wV5wnYM11pQ

>A Very Sonic Christmas
https://youtu.be/z2QIiOy6aw8

>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Official Trailer
https://youtu.be/OSOyFiOiNd4

>Sonic the Hedgehog x DC Comics Collaboration
https://youtu.be/pCpY090QHRI

https://x.com/IDWSonicNews/status/1870167326655726062

>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailer
https://youtu.be/Em6-SjjaYQE

>IDW Release Dates:
Sonic the Hedgehog #76 - 05 February 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #77 - 19 March 2025
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #1 - 19 March 2025

>General link compilation:
https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4P
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
/sthg/ OC info:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Previous Thread: >>507747740
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>>507797739
OOC, but an interesting idea.
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>>507797760
Why wouldn’t that just be Iblis’s natural form when not fused with Mephiles?
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Thoughts on Amy potentially having abandonment issues?
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>HE. IS. THE PAIN KILLER
>THIS. IS. THE PAIN KILLER
>PAIN! PAIN! KILLER! KILLER!
>PAIN! PAIN! KILLER! KILLER!
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>>507798046
A better idea than Sonic having attachment issues.
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>>507798016
Iblis' natural form is just the flames themselves, like how Mephiles' natural form is just pure darkness. Mephiles gets his form from absorbing Shadow's shadow, we never see how Iblis gets his so I assumed Elise dying had something to do with it.
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>>507798046
there are just 2 canon amys (amies, amyes?) here
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>>507798046
Sonic leaves her for weeks at minimum, months realistically, and years at most so probably
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>>507798046
Whatever happened to the other hedgehogs? Sonic, Amy and Silver don't have known parents.
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>>507798515
>Sonic
Wind god
>Amy
Swept away by the Wind god's promise of endless adventure
>Silver
Time Freak
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>>507798515
It’s one of those suspension of disbelief things. Other Mobians exist and the cast do have parents/family (except Knuckles I guess), but you aren’t supposed to care about them until they’re explicitly relevant to the discussion.
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>>507798046
Here we go again...
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>>507798515
Amy's own a bakery that she helps run, Sonic's live in a nice rural area that he visits in-between adventures, and Silver's are fucking dead.
Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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>>507798515
>Sonic
Brenda and Jules
>Silver
Shadow and Amy
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>>507798673
Can you really call the detention center on Christmas Island a "nice rural area"?
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>>507798707
>Brenda and Jules
You mean Paulie and Brenda
>Shadow and Amy
You mean random ayy lmaos
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>>507798807
Why the FUCK are his shoes so fucking glossy?
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>>507798807
He got a tan
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>>507798905
Ages really are a level of realism this series doesn’t need.
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G'morning anon whats for breakfast
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>>507798905
mmmmm 15 year old pussy...
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>>507798976
Shadow's cum
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IMAGINEEEE
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>>507798954
I find it amusing Mimic was going to be the same age as the others but Iizuka himself intervened to tell them to make him 32.
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>>507798976
*breaks in*
SISTER! SOMEONE STOLE ALL OUR FOOD!
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>>507798976
McDonald’s, again…
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>>507797739
Its happened again, bro...
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>>507799063
>Iizuka
>the guy who shilled Fang for Superflops and then backstab his fans to shill Trip and turn him into an abusive ex-boyfriend instead of a goofball
Fucking Shitzuka...
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Blobians in black spats
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I find it interesting how Movie 3 used Super Sonic as Sonic's absolute lowest point, basically the opposite of its normal usage.
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>>507799063
Smithy was already pushing it being 20 but babysitting a bunch of teenage mercs, but then Mimic being 32 is just insane. I wish they would’ve just changed his design a bit to appear younger than bend to Iizuka’s idea.
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>>507799147
Tangle's cute and subtle breasts...
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>>507798905
Didn't Ian say Mimic was interested in Claire or something
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>>507799208
Mario 2 is going to make the gap even worse. Mario will have 2 billion in the bank from the movies meanwhile Sonic will have just over a billion.
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>"Mimic is 32 years old"
>still acts like a teenager
>makes dumb mistakes like hiding a walkie-talkie under his scarf
>even Clutch treats him like a child

kek, based Evan ignoring Iizuka's shit advice
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Shadria...
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>Shadow time travels with the cure to NIDS. The raid at the ARK happens anyways.
>He forces Maria in the escape and chaos controls to the future
>Maria spent her whole life trying to recreate him and gone mad
>"... Damn."
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I don't get Movienic hate. Yeah, Konichi-whaa and all, but he had like 2 or 3 jokes like that in the whole movie. Knuckles was worse with that, his every sentence was overly pompous.
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>>507799534
>>Maria spent her whole life trying to recreate him and gone mad
So she created Silver?
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>>507799063
>Iizuka himself intervened to tell them to make him 32.
Why?
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Silver
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>>507799501
>half-lidded shit
>in character
>in character
>in character
>in character
>in character
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>>507799691
This meme isn’t funny.
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>>507799691
canon Shadow half lid shall live on. rent free in your mind
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>>507799534
I honestly think an evil Maria could work if Shadow died instead, with the idea that they both needed each other.
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>Iizuka and Whitehead quit working together, because a japanese artist created Trip and it was so cute and peak, he wants the entire game to be changed for her
>Whitehead seethes and works on Penny's game instead
>Sega hires Arzest for a quick cheap replacement

Holy fucking shit...
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>>507799497
>the way he got his cover blew up is retarded and tastes like nothing
>no mini-story about some suspicious member like whisper discovering proof, get into a fight with him with the writers inventing some interesting stuff like mimic kidnapping her etc. etc.
This is why i can't get past issue 40 of this comic. I have no idea why some people defend it with all their energy.
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>>507799561
>Yeah, Konichi-whaa and all, but he had like 2 or 3 jokes like that in the whole movie.
Did we watch the same movie?
He makes dozens of jokes.
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>>507799648
Mimic looks old, and Sonic as a series prefers to have its villains be adults rather than teens.
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>>507798905
>Mimic is 32, hanging out with a bunch of teens
What did SEGA mean by this?
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>>507799879
I feel like we deserve one more Classic game before they decide to pull the plug. If Santiago flops again, he needs to be put down.
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>>507799783
NTA but it's not a meme. It should not be his default expression.
Squinting for a second? Sure. All the time? No. Shadow is not lazy and tired. He is alert.
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>>507799856
>Shadow dies
Tf are they gonna do when Black Doom rolls up?
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>>507799561
This is straight up revisionist
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>>507799997
I meant like, unfunny ones, he had like 2 or 3. From what I can recall Konichiwhaa and No food or movies and tactical self-locking.
In the second half he was locked in
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>>507800234
>revisionist
>one week after the release
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Metal
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>>507800347
This poor guy was reliving his memories with Maria for an entire 50 years.
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The way Shadow was caught is kinda pathetic. He was electrocuted, locked in a cage and he just let himself be put in a suspended animation
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>Evan brings back Duo as an AI and Evil Nicole clone
>joins Team Clutch
>is an AI ghost thing programmed by Eggman to observe Clutch and Mimic to not fuck up
>AI Duo feeling excited to replace Mimic if he ever fails Eggman
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>>507800371
>>507800491
Metal fanart is so fucking gooooood seems like he finally getting a push officially too now
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>>507800564
He was still under shock from Maria's death. Game Shadow on the other hand got to escape and had time to cope with Maria's death. Then he got captured AGAIN.
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>>507800750
Nah, bring back the Hooligans
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>>507800750
Evan should bring back Gerald
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>>507800564
His only friend just died and he was being locked up for reasons he didn't really know. It is pathetic, but it's also reasonable given his life was ruined so quickly. Too shocked to do anything, lost without his Maria. Moviedow is a kid too.
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>>507800564
They could have made it so Shadow jumped in front of the explosion and tanked most of the blast, injuring him enough to stop him from being able to fight back, but still not enough to save Maria.
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>>507800750
They liked duo so much they had to reinvent it?
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>>507798905
>The psychic has a wispon called Mantis
I HECKIN LOVE REFERENCES
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>>507800895
Whisper is a sniper and a wolf
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>>507800895
MAN, REFERENCES MAKE ME CUM HARD
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>>507800861
Convenient, but not pathetic. I like it
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>>507800109
Call it Sonic Jubilee. give it every classic character with a fully voiced cast, Martin Bruke can return as Sonic because fuck classic Sonic being silent, give it cutscenes made by studio wit cause toei is currently shit. Possibly give it 3d sudo adventure gameplay, if you can't get a decent 2d studio, and the ending that has Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Amy going there separate ways with a 4 years later end credits scene which ends with the opening of adventure 1.
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>Canister explodes
>Gerald is closest to the blast but is the first to get up after even though he is 60
>Maria, a presumably healthy tween, is immediately killed
>Shadow, the Ultimate Lifeform who survives an Earth-destroying-tier explosion, is more affected by the blast than Gerald
...
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>>507800861
it can also explain why gerald survived but not maria
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>>507801019
>fully voiced cast
>kills the mute factor and makes it pedantic like modern
do you want it to flop?
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>>507800895
I mean it'd be a lot cooler if the characters weren't faggy
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>>507800750
That's a genuine idea what could go wrong
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...Maria?
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>>507799664
Silver?
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*BEEP* *BEEP*
Best ship coming through.
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>>507800986
I'm surprised there's not a snake character named Venom, Solid, Liquid, or Solidus
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I think it's stupid that they don't make Shadow cry at any point during the movie. He doesn't even tear up.
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>>507801180
As long as his anus is safe he is invincible
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What age demographic do you think Paramount considers the Sonic movies' primary audience? 0-7? 3 to 13? 13 and up?
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I was at a comic shop earlier today heard some 8 year old boys talking about Movie 4. They were saying Silver and Metal Sonic were going to be in it. They didn't even mention Amy kek.
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>>507801524
>Archie shit
Ooc.
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>>507801554
They said they tried aging up the third movie a little bit because the target audience is growing a little, maybe by movie 4 or 5 they'll hit PG-13
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>>507801408
does he have dirt on his eyeballs?
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>>507800986
And their HQ is literally just Mother Base from Peace Walker and Phantom Pain
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>>507797739
thread number is wrong. It should be 7757 now. Damn it all, this is why you dont reuse old threads.
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>>507801241
You act like most fans would even care, Besides if you really think having voiced characters would effect sales you could just keep it out of the marketing.
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>>507801554
Same as the normal series, little kiddies.
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>Slinger and Smithy are a duo who work together
>Mimic always gets the girls
kek
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>>507801795
>45
old fucks
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>>507801691
Talking about design:
>the prison is shaped like a guitar
>tails' home is shaped like his head
I can understand eggman, he's a narcissist, but why such bizarre choices?

I am watching a kids franchise and i always forget about it.
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>>507801795
>Series is focused on being for adult males more then little girls
Where's my fucking Rouge bust?
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>Shadow seething at Rouge for no reason
SoJ-approved.
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>>507801795
where do we find the Sonic marketing slides?
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>>507801991
Sonic X reference
Sonic Battle reference

IDW has no original thoughts
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>>507801392
>Wasn't a ghost in the machine just a.i getting too carried away with the villian role
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>>507801619
Amyfags don't seem to realize the primary demographic for Sonic doesn't care about her. Little boys only care about the male cast, especially the cool ones. Once puberty corrupts them they start caring about Amy sometimes, but by then most of them have grown up and moved on to a different franchise that's more mature. I see little boys at my store point out Sonic and Shadow to their parents while the Amy merchandise sits there never being bought for months.
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>>507801783
It's not really them being voiced my problem, it's them being voiced giving an excuse to move away from being action focused and turn into intona wall of text.
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>>507802035
*sigh*
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Hooray for near equality!
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>>507802163
Do girls self-insert? If not, they would rather buy Sonic first and then Amy later for their shipping.
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>>507802352
Which character do the Asians like?
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>>507801543
A single tear would have been all they needed, but the way they handled him was perfectly fine, and honestly better than I expected.
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>>507802352
>many of them have high awareness
People only know like three of them, it took a whole year for people to even kind of know what Shadow is
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>>507798085
Yeah, why does Sonic have to be the one with issues? He's the one who should be the most mentally healthy.
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>>507802352
>have the most equal representation
>have the most divided and fucked up opinions
It all makes sense now.
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>>507802486
>young
probably shonen kino like sonic and shadow and maybe silver if they think he is trunks
>old
the same, but they are probably female fujos who want to fuck sonic and his friends
hmofa chads barely exist in japan
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>>507800196
Maria after surviving the ark and losing Shadow would have taken on and later destroyed GUN And would most likely be in control of the planet by the time the Black Arms returned. However unlike GUN, she would have been somewhat aware of it and would have had a legion of enforcer bots and a Metal Shadow bot to fight off the invasion before destroying the comet
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>>507798778
Pretty sure his manga family lives on Christmas Island. He got his plane from his dad who's a pilot.
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>>507801019
>Classic Sonic with voices and 3D gameplay
Just make a new Modern Sonic game at that point ffs. The whole point of Classic is to not have anything people hated about Moden.
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>>507799664
goddamn took me a moment to realise that's elise
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>>507798673
Amy was retconned into being a city girl with Adventure. Honestly, she might've always been a city girl. She went to Little Planet because her tarot cards told her Sonic would be there.
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>>507802596
Yeah, and SoA is actually smart as fuck for having Shadow compete with Sonic over Amy. Shipping wars attract girls and no one cares if Shadow is competing with Knuckles over Rouge.
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>>507802054
Wait how advanced is the tech in this franchise
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>>507802187
>it's them being voiced giving an excuse to move away from being action focused and turn into intona wall of text
Maybe, But the Sonic series isn't Metal Gear solid 4, Besides while light on story would be better for this, Sonic adventure 2 had a cut-scene at the end of every level and i'm fine with that.
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>>507802857
more please.
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>>507802868
Yes
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>>507799291
I'd rather the main cast just be young adults anyway. Have Sonic be in his late teens or early 20s like Oshima wanted. Tails can stay a kid though.
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>>507802857
Muh...
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>>507802352
So this is the full power of LE FREE MARKET that is going to help trickle down
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>>507799534
Shadow the Hedgehog 2: The Checkpoint Paradox.
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>>507802857
>>507803002
crazy how the art in this one-shot manga is 10,000x better than the Jet Black manga
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>>507803002
Bloodkino
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>>507803002
RIO!
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>>507800853
>Moviedow is a kid too.
So it isn't weird if their relationship was romantic in nature?
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>>507802896
>But the Sonic series isn't Metal Gear solid 4
DON'T GIVE SEGA IDEAS, who knows some faggot in ST pops up and says "what if sonic but metal gear?" and then proceeds to make a shit "edge but safe" product that makes shadow 2005 look like a masterpiece.
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>>507803087
There's another Shadow manga?!
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>>507800750
I'd rather Nicole be an AI that Tails creates as the Hero counterpart to Sage.
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>>507803148
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>>507803304
Sonic is so fucking ugly jesus
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>>507803268
There's the corocoro one whish is monthly and so far has 5 issues. No idea how long it's gonna last.

Then there is this one Sonic X Shadow Episode 0, a tie-in to the movie. It's only a one-shot.
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>>507802703
>The whole point of Classic is to not have anything people hated about Moden.
Then you're going backwards. People expect even their 2D games to be voiced. Having everyone be mute is a sign of cheapness. This isn't an indie game, there's no excuse for the lack of voice acting.
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>>507803304
Knux ready to fuck shit up
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>>507803349
Well, Moviedow is calling them an eyesore 目障り there.
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>>507802960
Since as far back as the late 1960s-1970s advanced A.I and super computers were common
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>>507803349
His movie design is a bit difficult to translate to 2D. Should've just used the game one honestly.
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>>507803304
THATS IT? wtf that's ALL?
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>edgy but safe
>gay but straight
You either pick one or the other, or i'll shoot you. No you can't pick both.
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>>507803570
Edgy and I will not take anything less
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>>507802352
So as a fun way to localize Jap Sonic's Engrish, they could have Sonic speak Spanglish to appeal to a Latin audience.
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>>507802981
>I'd rather the main cast just be young adults anyway
Honestly we need a massive blowout game Like a new Adventure game that ends with a hyper Sonic fight and the destruction of GUN or something and the characters going their separate ways for a few years before you can justify a timeskip
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>>507803667
There's never anything wrong with being edgy and earnest about it. Sincerity goes a long way.
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>>507803727
wouldn't buy it but I'd watch console reviews of it till the cows come home like I do with the steam deck
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>>507802012
This is pretty much the only time knuckles and rouge interact in IDW, and it's just a throaway joke to poke fun shippers
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Moviedow's relationship with Maria is a fucking joke. Why would Shadow give that much of a shit about some random girl he met? In the games, his purpose was to help Maria. He was CREATED to help Maria. Maria was his very purpose. Moviedow was just a random found alien that was getting experiments done on him. He wouldn't give a shit about Gerald either.
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>>507803667
Alright.
>>507803803
Too late, i'm back bombing the mudokons.
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sega could do something funny for movie 4, and have the soundtrack be different between the us and jp versions
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>>507803962
And call Amy "Sally Acorn" in the US
Pink Sally
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>>507803919
>Why would Shadow give that much of a shit about some random girl he met?
Because she doesn't view him as this Biolizard-Godzilla-Monster as others do
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Kino cover. "I swore to protect you—"
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If Michael Jackson was alive, do you think he'd have cameoed in the live action movies?
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>>507804073
Shadow looks atrocious
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Well, /sthg/, would (You) save the planet from disaster?
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>>507803962
they may put autismkino in their movies but that's too autismkino for them
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>>507804073
is this from the jet black manga or the one-shot manga?
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>>507801691
Okay where is the rest of MG character
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>>507804121
Fuck y'all
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Why was Frontiers so well received in japan unlike all the other recent Sonic games?
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>>507802960
>>507803492
cool no wonder they managed to keep in business
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>>507804181
nobody like a hater, young man.
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>>507803919
Cause she treated him as an individual rather than a tool to be exploited
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>>507804112
You look atrocious, that's why you're here
>>507804141
It looks like a Jet Black Hedgehog preview from the back of the movie manga given out at Japanese theaters.
Some japanon on /v/ posted it, he watched the movies in both Japanese and English. >>>/v/698465818
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>>507803245
>who knows some faggot in ST pops up and says "what if sonic but metal gear?
That was Ian, Besides If some staff member wanted Sonic to be more like Metal gear, It would have happened by now It probably already did
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SONIC BOOM SONIC BOOOOM SONIC BOOOOOM
(Trouble keeps you running faster!)
SONIC BOOM SONIC BOOOOOM SONIC BOOOOOOM
(SAVE THE PLANET FROM DISASTER!)
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>>507803919
>Why would Shadow give that much of a shit about some random girl he met?
She's the only human that treated him as another soul, not a weapon.
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>>507804307
japs probably onions out over open world games even more than we do
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>>507803186
It never was weird, normal Shadow is young too. Thornton just makes him sound ancient.
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>>507804438
I thought it did well because it wasn't very Sonic-like. It was a generic open world game that happened to have Sonic in it. Do you think that contributed to its sales in japan?
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>>507804563
I'm not sure I don't look into Japanese culture so I'm just making educated guesses
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>>507799561
I was expecting "Konichi-whaaa" to be a setup for "Sayonara, Shadow... the Hedgehog" in the movie, otherwise I overall personally don't mind this interpretation of Sonic, it's not my favourite, but it works as its own separate thing
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>>507804625
that's fair
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>>507803774
Why have a timeskip? Just say Sonic's 22 now. He was 18 in Sonic 1, only to be retconned to be 16 in Sonic 2 and then finally settling on 15 for Adventure.
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>>507804534
Look who's awake. Did you finish my rape porn yet, mutt?
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>>507804534
based
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>>507804307
First notable Sonic game to release after SSBU
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>>507804438
You are correct.
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>>507804746
get fucked classic cuck
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>>507804746
toei sonic my beloved
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>>507804691
>Why have a timeskip?
Because I don't want adult Sonic to look the same as teenage Sonic, Hell I don't want teenage Tails to look and sound the same as his kid self.
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>>507802352
Why there are so many Hispanics in here?!
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>>507804806
do you think they would also like an open world Sonic game that has more Sonic elements in its gameplay and art direction?
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>>507804898
xhey prefer latinx, chud
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>already hitting it big in new zealand so far
sonic, popular amongst the kiwis!
>>507804817
I'm not a classiccuck, I like both classic and modern sonic
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>>507804898
Dragon Ball inspiration.
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Apparent sonic movie 2 and 3 got the equivalent of a pg 13 rating in germany

https://old.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1hncfrj/sonic_the_hedgehog_3_is_tracking_to_open_243/m40len3/
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Can Sonic games be fixed with 2 million Indians?
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>>507804746
Nobody ever mentions that it was not what we saw in 1993
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>>507804856
You're being autistic. It's just a retcon. Sonic and Amy would be young adults, while Tails and cream are still little kids. Simple.
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>>507803825
What if I told you that this new console will end the console wars for good?

I want you to imagine a Sonic movie game where you can play as Tom in some parts of it.

And when you are controlling Tom with the joystick and buttons, it is like you are watching the actual Sonic movie, but your controller inputs move the real-life humans around.

I want you to imagine moving the camera around the characters, and seeing the realistic facial expressions, and the high resolution skin textures.

That's how close to reality this new console's graphics could be.
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>>507804898
shounen
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>>507805079
>DO NOT R-R-R-R-REDEEM, YOU BLOODY BASTARD HEDGEHOG!
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>>507805085
no one had that piece of shit
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>>507804167
>Solid the Snake
>Vulcan the Raven
>Psycho the Mantis
>Revolver the Ocelot
They literally made Decoy the Octopus and Sniper the Wolf actual characters
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>>507805005
>Hong Kong
kek
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I heard Shadow showed his love for Amy in Dream Team
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>>507805193
They would make SOO many new assets. Sonic Team saars wouldn't need to reuse Generations assets anymore!
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>>507804898
Dragonball spics are attracted to anything that resembles it
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Now that we're all semi-niggers and hapas, what do we do now?
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>>507805136
meds but kino
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>>507804930
I always though a Spin-off game set on Christmas island could be fun
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>>507805305
we should harass him for being a pedophile who supports incest
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Why do these fan artists always make the girls flat and mannish?
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>>507805408
sonic girls are only conventionally attractive you have to make them extremely off model before they start being voluptuous
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>>507804327
Nah they stopped using the mimic tech after it started acting out of line they had to go back to doing the programming themselves the ghost horror stuff was never the root of the problem>>507804327
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Did he wear this mascot head in the movie?
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>>507805407
>pedophile who supports incest
?
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>>507805135
>It's just a retcon
I'm sick of Age retcons, I want consistent continuity that isn't just retcons. Let Classic Sonic being Kid Sonic be the final age retcon and be done with it.
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>>507803727
Give me a few collections of every single classic sonic game and I'd buy it unless this thing doesn't have a cartridge slot for them to be owned physically.
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>>507805305
Why are japs so based?
Why can't Amerimutts be this based?
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>>507803471
But he calls them colorful in the Japanese dub.
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>>507805440
>he's eating a chilidog
lol
>>507805548
yes
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>>507805597
we don't support pedophile and incest
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>>507805580
how old is vector?
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>>507805492
>you have to make them extremely off model before they start being voluptuous
No. Why do you think that?
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>>507805548
Probably.
Knuckles got Nights Chao, that's for sure, that's what I remember.
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>>507805657
Like 22
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>>507805654
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>>507805305
Basado
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>>507805136
>this will be graphics in 2012
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>>507805580
>Let Classic Sonic being Kid Sonic be the final age retcon and be done with it.
For the last fucking time, he isn't Kid Sonic. It's just a different artstyle. Modern Sonic was a redesign. He didn't get older. Especially since Classic was originally 18 to begin with, so he got younger as Modern instead.
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>>507805793
Classic Sonic is literally considered Past Sonic.
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>>507805793
>He didn't get older.
sega says otherwise. Go play generations
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>>507805654
Maria was older than Shadow when they met, and they're not related in any way.
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>>507805373
12 people who work for Sega know about the existence of this new console.
It has been said that Sega has been at the drawing board for the past 20 years, ever since the Dreamcast was discontinued.
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Which sonic character is the most "SEXTON HAAAAAAAAAAAAALE!"?
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>>507805879
nta but it's because that's what sonic USED to look like in his earlier adventures. doesn't mean he's not the same age as modern sonic.
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>>507805879
Is it definitely "Past Sonic" now and not "Sonic from another dimension"
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>>507805657
According to the wiki 20. However it did say he was 16 back during the classic era
Honesty The classic era should be set 4 years before adventure 1 and before >>507805793 replays, Yes I know that the artstyle from adventure was originally a reboot, but since generations onward, that's been retconed to not only be cannon, but also past Sonic.
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>>507806023
Who?
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>>507805581
I think they could do that.
It will likely have its own Operating System.
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>>507805963
Zavok
>>507806009
That's the canon answer but Sonic Team still ignores it (see Superstars Amy)
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>>507805904
Grrrr no they're siblings even doe they knew each other for like a few months and aren't related because uhhhh they just are okay?
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>>507805963
>Tranny Fortress reference
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>>507806023
Ay yo what the fuck is that tie in comic on the right
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>>507805970
This is why Classic Sonic coming from another dimension and Classic being a different separate dimension from Modern never bugged me. One Sonic keeps going about with black eyes in one dimension while another Sonic goes about with green eyes in another dimension.
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>>507805879
To us in a meta way. In-universe, he's just Sonic from five months ago or Toon Sonic.
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>>507805793
Classic Sonic should be its own series independent from Modern Sonic bullshit
>>507805879
And that's not a good thing
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>>507806113
Bro the game is older than you
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>>507806178
>First game I played was Shadow game
also who?
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Can't believe there is actual people arguing about the age of their ageless mascot characters who is never going to grow old
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>>507806009
Iizuka blatantly said Superstars takes place before SA1 lol.
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>>507806178
A fair response. I would have preferred if Gerald dropped all the goofiness at the end once the ruse was up, but it is what it is
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>>507805897
It was just a meta thing. It was a celebration of Sonic Team's accomplishments with Sonic. Notice how none of the games not made by them didn't get referenced.
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>>507806261
I'm just browsing twitter for reactions from jp lads. Movie opened in japan today
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All this autism because you couldn't handle the adventure games existing
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>>507806178
Gerald was absolutely the worst part and the way his death ends on a comedic bit shortly before Shadow and Eggman sacrifice themselves was retarded.
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>age debate
I'd rather they just get rid of the ages all together & have them treat them like mickey mouse characters or spongebob or something

have the main cast "young", the classic cast "somewhat younger" and then call it a day, leave it up to interpretation & moment to moment basis
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>>507805963
Sonic.
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>>507806317
yeah, it would have made him more intimidating as a villain. And it would have made his goofiness more tolerable so as to make him still more similar to his game counterpart
>>507806325
>It was just a meta thing.
no
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>>507806402
I could live with this
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>>507806113
>meanwhile sonic can't even suggest that blobians can bleed
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>>507806402
that's soulless
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>>507806402
>I'd rather they just get rid of the ages all together
Didn't they literally do this before Frontiers came out?
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These are so cool irl. I loved the year of Shadow bros
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>>507806305
But that fucks with Amy's story.
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>>507806340
keep posting these, anon. theyre neat
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>>507806509
I thought they did, but people are still arguing about it here and I'm not sure why anymore
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>>507806513
Damn, whos dick do I gotta suck to get that wall scroll
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>>507806434
>no
Yes. it was never meant to be taken literally and seriously. It's like one of those Simpsons episodes where they meet their original Tracy Ulman depictions as an anniversary thing. They're just being meta.
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>>507806402
>and have them treat them like mickey mouse characters or spongebob or something
Gay, I get that the world of Sonic is part toon, but it's also part shonen. I would rather the reason characters don't age is because most adventures take place during the same year rather than just "toon logic"
You want that shit, Play Mario. I do when I want a toon game.
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>>507806716
mario got hit by a bullet bill
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>>507806513
They should make it a decade of Shadow. Want him to become an IP like Sonic.
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>>507806509
At the tail end of 2022, SEGA removed ages from Sonic Channel and all their other websites, yes.
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Let's throw everything into mixer and see what comes out of it.
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>>507807028
Thanks Tracy
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>>507807028
So now that the dust has settled, why did he do it?
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>>507806305
It just means that SA1 took place in the Classic dimension but everyone retained their classic designs for that adventure.
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>it's toon but it's also shonen but it's also endless but the character must develop in some edgy setting but also safe for children
Way to say this franchise is truly a cooking mess.

Fast forward a bunch of years and people will ask themselves again "why the sonic franchise has no appealing and success"?
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>>507806402
No. Just because you want to forget history doesn't mean the rest of us do.
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>>507807328
Why is Maria fat?
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>>507807456
roBUTnik
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>>507807363
>it's toon but it's also shonen but it's also endless but the character must develop in some edgy setting but also safe for children
Dragonball
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>>507807170
>Sonic got to keep his stubby legs
>Amy still looked like her classic self
>maybe others like Fang and Mighty got to make an appearance
Would be kino.
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>>507807456
>Why are Robotniks round
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Would it be safe to say that sonic's target audience nowadays is boys aged 8-12, when back in its heyday it was "pre-teens who thought they were too cool for nintendo"?
Fine by me desu, saying this as a 24yo grown ass man
IMO, sonic as an IP works best when it's baby's first shounen
Gateway to shounen for the babbys
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>>507807363
Because the devs are retarded, besides the Sonic series had a semi constant tone up intil colours, with some bumps like Shadow the hegehog and sonic the hegehog (2006)
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>>507807581
>saying this as a 24yo grown ass man
You're still a child but you're not wrong
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i hate how they make all 6 of super sonic's quills stand up it completely ruins shadow's design. shadow was designed to have super sonic's sillhouette
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>>507807363
>it's toon but it's also shonen but it's also endless but the character must develop in some edgy setting but also safe for children
None of these things a contradictory. Dragon Ball is all of these things.
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If Sonic runs at the speed of light, then Gerald flies at the speed of fart!
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>>507807563
but then how would they handle SA2 in the classic dimension?
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Why the fuck is classic made for toddlers? Just add voices and shonen kino already. Classic Sonic shouldn't be the Nick Jr of Sonic.
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>>507807363
Shouldn't have tried to go super serious with the tone in the 2000s. That's what fucked things up. Axe the home console games and keep the handheld console games(Advance, Rush, Rivals) and things would have been just fine for the brand image.
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>>507807170
Then how bout Superstars happens AFTER SA1?
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i can't wait to see Rouge's live action outfit
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>>507807028
Shadow the Indian Hedgehog
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>>507807550
>dragon ball
>edgy but safe

AHAH... no
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>>507807863
they want to be among tendie franchises
Ever wonder why Nintendo advertised sonic when movie 3 came out?
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>>507807363
Shut up Archietard. Your weird furshit died 8 years ago.
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>>507808001
Fully covered and she is going to be a nun
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>>507807793
Shadow shows up, same shit happens and this time, Shadow stays fucking dead.

Rouge still appears and does her thing and butts heads with Knuckles and Fang.
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>>507808015
yes we know that was your first boner anon
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>>507807863
>Classic Sonic is meant to appeal to the 2D only boomers but is actually made specifically to be kiddie's first platformers
This shit writes itself
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>>507807793
Id assume after generations classic Robotnik would realise his future plans with Chaos and Project Shadow would fail to defeat Sonic so he simply doesnt do those plans in the neo classic timeline
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>>507807863
We don't want your modern autism in classic though. Just because you're a dirty spic who thinks anything that doesn't have retarded transformations and battles is for babies doesn't mean the rest of us do.
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>>507806716
If I'm being honest, having most of the series take place within a year is a bigger leap in logic than "they're as old/young as you imagine", I cannot buy the fact that these characters presumably have any sort of deep meaningful relationship when they've only met like last week or something

It's not that I want everything to be a silly cartoon, rather I want the games to not worry too much about stuff like "how much time has passed in an event", I do not care how much time has passed between Chip dying & Sonic going to an interstellar amusement park, I think the Zelda series is a closer match to what I'm looking for (just not in the span of hundreds of years)

Also, the term "shounen" is cringe and I cant quite take it seriously when people use it to talk about Sonic games, ironically
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>>507807851
CHADow the KEKney destroyer
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>>507808015
Considering no one ever dies in Dragon Ball thanks to Big Shenny's Magical Bullshit, that's basically the epitome of "edgy but safe"
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I wonder how Maekawa will react to the movie.
If I were him I'd be thoroughly unamused by how badly my story was murdered, but I wasn't raised with the Japanese's culture so who knows.
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>>507807974
Iizuka said it happens before. Which means SA1 has to take place after Superstars in the classic dimension.
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>>507807793
SA2 doesn't happen but Rouge still fucks with Knuckles on Angel Island.
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>>507808039
Sonic wouldn't even dare to make characters kiss but somehow dragonball is like sonic?

Sonic is a wet diaper, all the dbz association is COPE.
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>>507808248
He seemed to enjoy it
Also he's retweeting shadria and sonadow fanart right now lol
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>>507807925
Sonic 06 being broken is what messed things up, since I gave a opening to the "only played Sonic 2, Sonic was never good" crowd.
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>>507808315
>Sonic wouldn't even dare to make characters kiss but somehow dragonball is like sonic?
Goku has canonically never kissed Chi-Chi.
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>>507808052
No shit. Classic looks way too cutesy to be taken seriously.
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>>507808015
There's way better examples than that you could've picked
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>>507808024
At the very least she will get a cool spy outfit
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>>507808069
That could work. However given Iizuka said Superstars takes place before SA1, it means SA1 still has to atleast happen in the classic dimension. Also do the classic characters even retain their memories of the time shenanigans from Generations after Time Eater was defeated?
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>>507808171
Resurrection and death are 2 different things, you get people being penetrated by lasers in dragon ball are you guys fucking braindead?
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>>507808267
That doesn't work with Amy's Story though. Superstars has to take place after to make sense of it.
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>>507808358
>sonadow fanart
He retweets basically anything with both Shadow and Maria in it even if it's pushing Sonadow.
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>>507807410
I don't want the history to be ignored, that was actually one of my biggest peeves back in the 2000s, I just don't care about how old they are, any attempt at it just feels off, especially now with all the history we do have
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Kiss my butt!!!
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>>507808276
Now that would be kino.
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SA1 had references to S3 and CD, it's still one timeline
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>>507808441
SA1's the finale to the shit that started with Sonic 2.
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>>507808359
People were shitting on Sonic since SA2. It got worse after Shad05 and reached a critical point with 06.
>>507808376
You weren't born in the 90s so you never played the classic games.
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if I would make a playable surge in classic sonic I would give her a electric shield double jump with the drawback of she doesn't curl up into a ball for the initial jump
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>today sthg pretends sonic can be like dragonball
You guys are fucking stupid.
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>>507808494
>you get people being penetrated by lasers in dragon ball are you guys fucking braindead?
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>>507808604
Because it was Sonic 4 in all but name. It was a direct sequel to Sonic 3&K.
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>>507808515
Ok but Iizuka still said it happens before SA1 so clearly Amy went through a bit of regression after Superstars by the time SA1 happens in the classic dimension.
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>finally realized that Fleetway Super Sonic is the Broly we always wanted
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more jp reactions
>>507808718
do floridans really
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>>507808571
Kiss mine
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>>507806716
this. I agree
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>>507808684
>You weren't born in the 90s so you never played the classic games.
Yes I was and yes I have.
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>>507808604
That's exactly why SA1 still would have to happen in the classic dimension. As you say, it blatantly references the classic games and it was initially built from Sonic Jam.
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>>507807363
like the other anon said, you literally described Dragon Ball. And the games from SA1 to Frontiers don't need to happen in a year, but they sure as fuck could happen in 3 years. So Sonic can go from being 13 in Sonic 1 to being 16 in Sonic Frontiers.
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>>507801019
>>507801241
>>507801783
Why not do what the Super Mario Advance series did and have Sonic and co speak when they get an extra life or a shield or even just have Robotnik say a line like "You havent seen the last of me" when you defeat him in a boss battle
https://youtu.be/Bi4WDkUWWjo
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>>507808797
Or he's wrong and it takes place after. That's so much simpler than going through hoops to make sense of the alternative.
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>>507808718
>that reflection
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>>507808758
>some 10 years old game showing a "killing sonic" laser that leaves no blood, no pain, no pathos
Do you guys even watch dragon ball? Edgy but safe my ass, every time sonic tries it the result is pathetic.
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>>507809035
I mean he's the head of Sonic Team so he can't be wrong.
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>>507808035
>Shadow stays fucking dead.
why do classicniggers say shit like this when we have seen literally this very week how succesful Shadow is? lmao fucking delusional monkeys.
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As I said earlier, the appeal of Sonic is "babby's first shounen". (Also, I'm a fan of both DBZ and Sonic, mind you)
Scenerel got people hyped for a reason.
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>>507808989
Or it's a floating timeline because these are still cartoon characters at the end of the day. Comic books do the same shit. Characters only age when management decides they will.
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>>507808718
>Amerifat
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>>507808202
Why do most of them make me want to punch them in the face so much?
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>>507809050
>Do you guys even watch dragon ball?
You mean the gag anime with fart jokes?
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>>507808989
>like the other anon said, you literally described Dragon Ball
It's the same fucking thing, it's a shonen ok it doesn't have to be gore and sex, but it's way more hardcore than fucking sonic.
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>>507808531
sonadow!
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>>507809082
Thinking like that is zealotry, dude. Form your own opinions and stances.
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(This lad's probably referring to sonic going apeshit in the movie's third act and comparing it to Sonic X)
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>>507809050
Dragon Ball is even older you braindead mongoloid
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>>507809239 (me)
*It's not the same fucking thing
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>>507809248
Baste?
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This is canon by the way
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I want Sonic's tone to be like Zelda, not quite like Dragonball Z, not quite like Bugs Bunny

There, I said it
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>>507809271
Ok but he still said Superstars takes place before SA1. To begin with, SA1 could have gone differently in the classic dimension so it doesn't contradict anything.
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Sonamy is a tragic ship that was never meant to sail. Notice how Amy was never Sonic's first choice. It was always a princess (i.e. Sally, Elise).
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>>507809302
The point being that sonic is more babyfied now.
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>>507807550
The canon ending to Dragon Ball is Goku flying away with Uub, that is the definitive end to the original manga series.
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>>507809505
>The point being that sonic is more babyfied now.
How do we tell this guy about Dragon Ball Daima?
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>>507809093
Your shit hedgehog is going to get tossed to the side again after this year.
>this very week
The week where Mufasa ate him alive?
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Israeli Sonic the Hedgehog show for kids.
This is horrifying, and amazing all at once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u_duZsEAdU
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>>507809617
holy seethe. lmao
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HE MADE THEM??? I WASN'T TOLD ABOUT THIS WTF!!!
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>>507809668
>shadowtard tried to act uppity
>got knocked down
>"y-you seethin h-heh..."
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>>507809586
Keep avoiding my point, christ how fucking dense you guys are. Enjoy your stupid mandates.
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>>507799487
It's because they keep trying to force the human shit in sonic movies. No one gives a single fuck about that and mario is purely just mario characters. It's why 1 and 2 sucked so bad and why i have a suspicion that 3 is just as bad because no one is telling me that there is yet another unnecessary human scenes that drag on too long
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>>507809617
hi disney
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>>507809586
>How do we tell this guy about Dragon Ball Daima?
The reaction to Daima is similar to how I felt when they made Mania & onward, I want Classic Sonic to be cool again
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>>507809486
>always a princess (i.e. Sally, Elise).
And Blaze.
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>>507809617
Hahaha haha holy shit Ahahahaha
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>>507799208
>>507799487
>>507809749
It's honestly going to be fun seeing how Mario 2 triples the amount of money made over Sonic 3.
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>>507799487
>mario 2
A-anon…
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>>507809486
Amy's too easy. A princess is a challenge.
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We have been doing this one sided argument for over 25 years now. You're not some epic mastermind troll by posting here.
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>>507809737
sorry bruh, too busy fapping to fully engage w your delusion
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>>507809871
We don’t need either of these trash heaps.
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>>507809770
>hiding behind a twitter nip
shadowbros are so shook by the lion
>>507809819
>replies to the same post again
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>>507809749
The humans are actually handled way better in 3, they were a welcome inclusion this time around & felt less like a distraction sideplot, I hope they are able to keep up the momentum in 4/CD
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>>507810002
Nope, the mouse and its shills, such as (You), are shook by the hedgehogs
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>>507809989
>shadowtard can only tearfully wack off after his shithog's year flopped
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>>507810002
Schizophrenia
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Poopdow!
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>>507810197
brap
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What was last night all about sthg
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Shit franchise. You deserve me telling you the franchise is shit, and it will never end.
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>>507809486
>>507809943
Sally
>dead
Elise
>dead
Blaze
>in another dimesion and paired with Silver
Looks like Sonic is stuck with Amy. Ouch.
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>>507809709
We were also told that Infinite was built, they're either meaning that Starline made them into who they are now or the story is blatantly lying again.
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>>507810149
I love this image you could tell they were having fun at this convention
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>disney soibois are mindbroken by this
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>>507810002
How much is Bog (((Iger))) paying you?
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>>507810131
>using paint
You're not slick. Go lick the lion's from your dead hedgehog's asshole.
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It's not though. If anything you are more pathetic for hanging around here all day 24/7 posting the same shit.
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>>507810456
>Go lick the lion's from your dead hedgehog's asshole
what did the mouseshill mean by this
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>>507810456
>esl
SAAR PLEASE LET ME REDEEM THE H1B VISA SAAR PLEASE
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>>507810506
Stop talking alone, the general can't speak it's not a person.
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Why isn't sonic or any of his colorful cast of characters in fortnite already? Seems like an easy thing to do and should have been done like 5 years ago.
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mousekeks out of my thread
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>>507810669
>sonic doing fortnite dances
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>>507810315
>in another dimesion and paired with Silver
They gotta stop trying to force Rush Blaze to be 06 Blaze. They're very different characters.
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You're so vain, I bet you think this post is about you.
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>>507810582
tranny retardation is unreal
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>>507810716
it's a match made in heaven, like peanut butter & jam
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>>507810669
>wake up sonic, we need to crank some 90e
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>>507810537
>>507810592
The lion raped your hedgehog.
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>>507809709
Maybe in a metaphoric sense.
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>Shitdowtards think they can compete with the Mouse
Lol. Lmao even. Stay in your lane.
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>>507810801
A lot of autists end up trooning out? Why?
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>>507810926
why didn't the english script writer rewrite this? english writers already hated how tails was depicted in forces when they got the script
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>>507810989
they have to cope with the small handful of japanese twitter tweets now. shit is hilarious.
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>>507810926
He's the sidekick. Nothing wrong with that. Why the autism over it?
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>>507811076
#knowingsmile
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>>507811025
autism leads to inceldom due to not having an extroverted personality. I guess.
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>>507810989
>>507811128
Disgusting mouse shills, get out of my sight
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>>507811186
You tried to compete with Mario. Got BTFO. Now you want to compete with the Mouse.

Are you people just masochists?
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I don't care what Japenese people have to say about this movie.
Why would you even care about their opinion? They're not interested in this franchise to begin with
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>>507810989
I don’t care if Sonic 3 makes more than Mufasa, I just want it to make the same if not more than Sonic 2.
The Sonic movies are a budget series, and I can see them slashing Sonic 4’s budget back to around 80-90m like Sonic 2’s was.
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>>507811273
AHHHHHHHHHH SHADOWBROS DON'T LOOK
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>Mouse shills having a melty ITT rn and trying to "put that rotten hedgehog in his place"
KEKAROO. No matter how hard your shit company tries to burn the books, sonic will be better than your soulless live action slop.
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>>507811185
You can be autistic and an extrovert though.
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>>507810669
hitboxes, they're a weird shape. the fortnite people could wear sonic costumes though
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>>507801524
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>>507811284
Because Shadowbros are looking for any crumb they can get.
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>>507811280
Your arguing with Paramount shills. They were here when Sonic 2 came out doing the same to Mario. Don’t worry, they’re leave once Sonic drops from theaters. Might as well as troll them while they’re forced to be on this shit site to market.
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>>507805408
>I'm so mad every girl doesn't give me a boner
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>>507811454
Rouge definitely loves Shadow, yes.
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>>507811273
>>507811280
>>507811284
>>507811516
>more mouseshills coping and seething, even trying to paint sega/sonic fangs who enjoyed the movie as "paramount shills"
pathetic.
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>>507811375
>The Sonic movies are a budget series, and I can see them slashing Sonic 4’s budget back to around 80-90m like Sonic 2’s was.
Good. Expensive shit doesn't change the fact it's still shit so no need to sink so much money.
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>>507811524
Yes, exactly. I’m glad you understand my plight.
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>>507811516
>Your arguing
>They're leave
>saar do not redeem the sonic movie, watch disney's live action nulionking slop instead
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>>507811393
this isn't the battle you want to pick, little bro
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>>507811025
Autists tend to have odd interests that don't align with the interests of their peers. They also tend to have trouble with face-to-face socialization, so they go to the internet. The tranny cult preys on that loneliness. They tell autists the reason they don't fit in is because they're a different gender, and that they'll be accepted with open arms in the tranny community.
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Taylorfag and phonephoster nigga, stop ruining the threads like you did with DC. No one gives a shit about either movies. .
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You aren't earning that H1b visa champ
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>>507811719
>little bro
you're probably younger than me, SHITneyRAT.
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>>507811516
It's astounding how one of such small status can so confidently bark up to a far bigger dog. Like a chihuahua trying to bark up to a tiger.
>>507811562
>fangs
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I don't know if this has already been posted yet, but Sonic Robo Blast 2 just got ported to the 32X. Its not a mod, this shits running on real hardware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7qzoS1eH1s
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Reminder all these shills defended Batman getting shot in the head by a tranny.
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>>507810669
They don't want Sonic to be seen using a gun, you could get away with using Shadow or Eggman though.
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>>507811836
>I-i'm a tiger! I'm bigger than anyone else
DING DING DING
CONFIRMED YOU'RE A DISNEY SHILL
KEKAROO
IF YOU HAD COMMON SENSE YOU'D KNOW DISNEY HASN'T BEEN GOOD SINCE THE EISNER ERA
GET FUCKED RAT
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>>507811897
scared yet, shadow?
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>Sonicfags getting uppity again over the slightest sign of success in the wake of their IP getting pummeled by others
I do love reruns.
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Do human femoids really like this thing?
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>>507811941
Huh? wtf did I miss? I haven't been on here since Christmas Day.
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>>507800371
He got them Fleetway eyes
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>>507811998
but any era of disney movies still outsold any sonic movie.
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>>507811941
I don't care about nuDC, but given how you won't shut up about it and schizophrenically accuse someone who's making fun of your disney addiction a "DC shill", maybe you need to stop watching that shit if it makes you so mad.
The better "DC" is "DreamCast" anyways.
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Why did Gerald?
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>>507812025
harsh reality will hit them again in the next couple of years. since mufasa tearing shadow apart didn't teach them enough.
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>>507810363
conversation around that time were magically
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>>507806113
>TF2 is considered tranny shit now by some
I hate modern internet. Take me back.
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>>507812064
why he naked?
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Some days this place is almost bad enough to make me want to go back to SSMB. Almost.
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>come back after a few days cuz of holiday shit
>the general is still getting spammed by disney shills and paramountshills
I'll see you guys on saturday after I've seen sonic 3. Seems taking a break from this shitfest was a good idea.
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>>507812304
>why can't i compete with the big dogs?!?!?!?
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>>507812383
Kek
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>>507812278
>since [headcanon]-- AIIIIEEEE DON'T LOOK MY FAVORITE COMPANY ISN'T TRYING TO BULLY THEATERS INTO SHOWING MUFASA MORE THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT THEY'RE SO HECKING VALID
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>>507812449
>paid writer
GG Paramount.
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>>507812314
>TF2
>Trannyshit
bro I see people on 2fort calling people trannies the worst slurs known to man on casual, most trannyshit on TF2 is usually contained to community servers more than anything. Reading that final comic that released last week had me in tears. You couldn't have ended the lore of the game in a better way, man. You really couldn't have.
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>>507812339
that's honestly ok
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>>507803304
Pungter is a hack and a whiny copyright bitch
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>>507812384
he's cheering you delusional mousecuck lmao
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I miss Heavy and Bomb.
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>>507812449
>this pathetic cope after mufasa murdered sonic 3
my sides hurts from laughing so hard
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>Even if you believe everyone in the world will be against you, know that I'll always remain by your side. Remember that.
>I will.
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>>507812546
>Time to take a piss
>What the hell are you doing
>I'm taking a piss
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>>507812064
Yes. In the same way dudes like Amy and Rouge
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>>507812607
>mouse out of nowhere
your mind? warped.
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>>507812804
>Pic
Not beating the mouseshill allegations kek
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>>507812543
Community servers are mainly where they're at
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>>507811836
Cringe
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>>507812702
Shadow wishes he was half as based as Bender.
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Was it like this when the first Sonic movie was released?
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>>507812804
Starring to think Mickey fucked his family.
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>>507812939
>Tom and Maddie have to do some very questionable searches on Hedgehog anatomy so that they can give Sonic "the talk".
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Fat Sally curled up next her human boyfriend while they sleep...
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>>507812939
>Not Amy
Disgusting Gay Creature, get out of my sight.
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Anyone got a version of this with useful resolution?
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>>507812383
ian mogs
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>>507813273
>if i make it longer it is le better
no
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>>507800895
Because Sega didn't want them to create another bug character.
>>507799367
Claire was interested in him.
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>>507813371
Wtf is that Torso?
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>>507813338
Tails is such a pathetic little bitch. If Mighty or Ray were there, they'd definitely jump in to stop Sonic and Knuckles from fighting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dyPGaBEpw
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>>507799561
He's lame, simple as.
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>>507813273
Less is more, dipshit.
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LOL
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>>507802489
Because you have low standards.
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>>507813651
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>>507812879
Well I rarely play on community servers anymore now that casual isn't full of bots. I think the only one I go on now is the Rocket Jump Academy for practicing rocket jumps and thats it. Its casual for me now. Haven't done an MVM thing yet.
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>>507813710
Well duh, he's a Sonic fan. You'd have to be insane otherwise.
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>>507801543
He tears up twice. Once when Maria has died and once when he’s pushing the Ark.
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>>507813845
Proof / screenshot?
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>>507813824
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Shadow breeding Sally with his larvae.
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>>507812879
There's always some faggot talking about boypucci here and there, but even on community servers i can call people gay without any major repercussions and the mood is always mansculine mainly.
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>>507813950
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you know everything i'm going to do, but that's not gonna help you, since i know everything you're going to do
STRANGE ISN'T IT?!
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>>507814802
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these alvin and the chipmunk-tier movies saved the franchise.
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>>507814994
SADDEST YEAR FOR SHADOW 2024
HE SURE CRIED A LOT
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>Yes, WITHOUT the time stones
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>>507815007
to compete with wicked and mufasa and the chipmunks the hedgehogs need to start singing
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>>507815391
nuke ian
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What's the tierlist on which sonic character cries the most?

>Cries the most
>Cries a lot
>Cries a few times
>Not shown crying
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Cowards run, I w-ACK
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sthg get it together you stupid whore yesterday was more than enough bullshit
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If you're strong, you can fly
You can reach the other side of the rainbow
It's alright, take a chance
'Cause there is no circumstance that you can't handle
When you use your mind
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Trouble keeps you running faster)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Save the planet from disaster)
Through the dark, to the light
It's a supersonic flight, gotta keep it goin'
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Trouble keeps you running faster)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Save the planet from disaster)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Spinning through a world in motion)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Trouble keeps you running faster)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Save the planet from disaster)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
(Spinning through a world in motion)
Sonic boom, sonic boom, sonic boom
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SoA-approved shipping: Sonic gets cucked
SoJ-approved shipping: Knuckles gets cucked
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>>507815564
Shadow has cried more than all other characters combined in ALL media now. And it's all Maria related plots
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>>507815564
Shadow
Amy
Tails
Big
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>>507815703
>Shadow has cried more than all other characters combined in ALL media now
Wait til you see Tangle/Whisper
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>>507815671
>Sonic gets cucked.
My dude, Sally is in the vault and he is not interested in Amy
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>>507815671
Is there anything exclusive from SoA marketing outside of Shadamy?
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>>507815391
That’s what you think!
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>>507815564
I feel like Amy is on the upper end of things if you take Sonic X into account. She has happy and sad tears
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>>507815572
Reminder that jackfrost came to visit too kek I think we made a good impression
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I wanna fuck Rouge’s tits.
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>>507815756
I stopped reading idw seriously after metal virus. and skimmed through a small handful of later issues until I gave up entirely. I'd rather read a fanfic honestly...
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>>507815564
Tails scores at least one for crying in Sonic X
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I wanna fuck Rouge's, Whisper's, and Lanolin's tits.
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>>507816013
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I wanna fuck Cream's tight lil' bunny cunny.
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>>507816094
Silver...
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>>507816161
ToT
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I wanna scritch Blaze's ears.
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>>507816250
...is watching like a happy cuck.
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>>507815564
lol
Poor Elise
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>>507808358
That still doesn't tell us if he enjoyed it or not lol
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>>507816161
Vector...
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>>507816341
This proves Japan is less autistic than the western world.
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>>507816341
lol he's basically admitting no japs actually like sonic
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>>507816593
misinterpretation.
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>>507816432
This next few years will probably mindbreak the Sonic fandom as consumer faith is eroded again.
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i finally beat fark's story, i hated how the parry felt when starting out but by the end I could kinda switch between parrying and attacking quickly and it felt badass

I ended up using his mid-air dashes as a pseudo-glide to get over annoying chunks of the level more than I care to admit but in my defense fark mode has a lot of enemy/obstacle spam
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>>507816572
>Japan is less autistic than the western world.
impossibur
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>>507816815
off-topic trash, begone with you
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>>507816250
Why does he want to titfuck his great great great grandma?
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>>507816161
Uoooooohhhhh!!! CunnyyyYYyy!!!! UuOOOooOoOOhhhhhHHHH!!!!
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>>507816815
More like Fart
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>>507816890
>IMPOSSIBRUUUUU!!!!!
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>>507814994
You can hardly see it
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Fang is my master...
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>>507816985
all the concept art i've seen looks cool
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>>507817135
It’s called being subtle. You want him to burst out in tears like an Ian Flynn comic?
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>>507817278
Bark and Bean...
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>>507817054
https://youtu.be/FnK0F1JhQvE?si=stj5nJ8t1fiSXdUf&t=460
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>>507816815
Fark is great but confusing, i hate it too
>>507816909
Stay mad segacuck
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>>507817289
>even the japs compare sonic to dbz
They really never should have left the shonen stories post 06
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Do you guys think Jim Carey would do a 4th movie or will they just replace him with some other guy?
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>>507817387
Just because your shit indie games are Sonic inspired does not mean they are welcomed here. Go make your own thread for this trash.
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>>507817414
>buuh buuh.... muh babyslop classickinoooooo WAAAAAAAH SONICS STOOPID FRENDS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>507817449
Casey and Miller doubled down on not recasting Robotnik. If Carrey is gone, so is Eggman. That’s why they always write him off in the end.
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https://filmarks.com/movies/116101/rating4_5
Super hot!!!! Maria and Live&Learn (you were playing that lol) started off so good I cried afterwards
I expected Super Shadow to show up but it was super hot from the transformation scene onwards! So…
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Sex with the dolphin dragon
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>>507817585
Sonic 06 was truly a sad, depressing mistake. We have missed out on 15+ years of shonen sonic all thanks to Shitga forcing an early release for 06.
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>>507817712
Shadow...
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>>507817737
>BUT......BUT.... SONIKKU 15TH BIRTHDAY...
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more metal cooler comparisons lol
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>>507817779
He’s the ultimate lifeform
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>>507817569
you re gay
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>>507817602
I cannot imagine sonic media without him fighting eggman in some way (i guess black knight did that very thing), it's going to be weird if jim retires & they dont just pull an "eggman clone" or "robo archie eggman" or something
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https://fusetter.com/tw/5Yj1QWEj#all
a spoiler review
here's a MTL of the last paragraph
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>>507813338
He's a fucking nerd. What'd you expect?
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>>507817927
You forgor secret rings too
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>No Rouge
>No City Escape
>No Radical Highway
>No Maria last words
>No Biolizard
This shit movie was pure ass, this movie is carried hard by the Sonic and Shadow final fight. You take that away and this movie has nothing. I'm so glad I didn't pay to watch this.
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>>507817737
seeing /dbs/ talk here is like seeing a little brother use their older brother's vocabulary to look cooler
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>>507817289
>THAT character
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>>507818145
>>507818040
I guess jp fans love amy
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>>507818074
I wanted to mention secret rings, but I think an alternate eggman atleast appears in it unlike black knight, even if he isn't the main villain in that game
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>>507813485
Why are writers so allergic to writing an accurate Sonic? Is it really that difficult for them to write a calm, cool and collected character?
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>>507817841
ok now who seething over it...
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Ian really is wasting the last few days he has left with Sonic questions on the Bumblekast
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>>507815391
You don't even use the Time Stones to time travel. Why did Ian think that's how it worked?
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>>507818335
I can mostly find glowing reviews (which speaks volumes to how critically successful the movie is among fans), though there some tweets that say they went a bit far with gerald's goofiness iirc
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They can always used Black Doom/Solaris/The End
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Sonic's STUPID Friends!
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>>507818479
They also have GUN, Chaos and that Rava The Destroyer guy they never used.
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>>507818267
>Why are writers so allergic to writing an accurate Sonic?
there are like a million different interpretations of sonic at this point, "writing an accurate sonic" died a long time ago, & when that happened is debatable
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>>507817927
They're building to Metal Sonic / Overlord, which is an easy follow up for a non-Eggman story
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>>507818050
grumpy boy
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>>507818479
>>507818563
It would be good to have GUN, Black Doom, Rava and Mephiles as one-time villains, but Eggman DOES need to come back.
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The content of the movie is great though...

It is also the Japanese title

The Tokyo elements are too weak!

It's probably a bit of a stretch to push the name of Tokyo through this... but it wasn't until the middle of the film that I started to think about it, as there were so few Tokyo elements.

I hardly ever do any missions in Tokyo.

Honestly, in the beginning, Sonic and his friends meet Shadow, and then there's the scene in the trailer where Sonic and Shadow run side by side, and then there's the scene where they go to Chao Garden, and that's really the extent of the Tokyo elements. In fact, from the middle of the movie, the plot develops to something like "There's something like GUN's headquarters in London, so let's infiltrate it!" and London becomes the main focus, and in the end, Sonic and Shadow get into a fight and go all the way to the moon (although flying into space is pretty close to the original).

Conclusion: Why did you put "Tokyo" in the title?
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https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sonic-the-Hedgehog-3-(2024)#tab=box-office
Looking good, thought it seems the international box office has yet to be accounted for.
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God, modernshitters are so pathetic.
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>>507818479
A phantom ruby plot would also be cool
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I mean, its like Bowser, where Nintendo refuse to used other villain, Sonic have more set of villain
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>>507818604
Sonic is the calm, cool and collected type. He doesn't like tears and never lets his emotions get the better of him. He has the utmost confidence in himself and his abilities, and allows his actions to speak for themselves. This is not a difficult character to write for.
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Hmmphh hmmph I love Santiago!
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>>507818865
He hasn’t been that way in the games for over a decade.
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>>507818563
>Chaos
How would Chaos work without Eggman? Also Chaos can't be in the Master Emerald in the movie verse. So where would Chaos even come from? And finally since the chaos emeralds are always all together there is no ramp up for Chaos, he'd just go from 0 to perfect instantly.
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>>507818760
>Conclusion: Why did you put "Tokyo" in the title?
So that you dumb gooks would actually give a shit about the film, and it worked.
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>>507818606
I guess, but he only works as his own character when he's neo so im guessing they're going to have to somehow make it so that he's always neo & the regular metals are just jobber puppets, as much as it pains me to see
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>>507818813
You're in the extreme minority, freak. Deal with it.
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>>507818710
Eggman story kinda end in SA2, post that he kinda aimless/plot device for release the ancient evil until Frontier
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>>507818775
>budget is 160M
oof yeah it flopped.
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>>507818929
It’s a different universe man, Chaos doesn’t have to be in the Master Emerald. He can literally be an alien, or be trapped in a different emerald like what they did in Archie. I think three movies in we can come to terms with the fact that things don’t have to be game accurate.
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>>507818606
>which is an easy follow up for a non-Eggman story
How is it an easy follow up? For Metal Sonic to exist we need Eggman. Metal Sonic's origin without Eggman is retarded, because then where does Metal Sonic even come from then?
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>>507819008
>he kinda aimless/plot device for release the ancient evil
king dedede ass character
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>>507818924
This only because my parents didn't want to be bothered with it lol
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(note that post-cre/ポスクレ is japanese slang for post-credits it seems)
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>>507818995
Angry? moderntranny?
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>>507819148
>He can literally be an alien
That's a fucking cop out. They pulled that with Shadow. Every new Sonic threat can't just be rewritten to be just some alien that happens to find their way to Earth. Chaos just doesn't work and will get scrapped just like Biolizard.
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>>507819148
>He can literally be an alien
Like Fleetway? He was an alien fish thing in that and was transformed into a water monster through contact with the Emeralds.
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>>507819587
I hope they make biolizard black doom's dog in a future movie
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>>507819531
>It was based on Sonic Adventure 2
No the fuck it wasn't.
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>>507819148
Chaos can be given a voice and that would work.
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>>507819587
All the characters are aliens that find earth.
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>>507819587
They're all aliens, dude. Sonic's from another planet.
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>>507819846
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>>507819686
This page reminds me of the time ppl thought super sonic was supposed to be a separate character from sonic for some reason & that they "reconnected" it in adventure, I assume it's because of fleetway I guess.

I like fleetway's artwork though, one of my favourite styles, especially for western sonic.
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>>507819686
I feel like Fleetway Super Sonic will be a thing in the movies. They keep hinting that Sonic shouldn't use the emeralds to transform, which makes no sense unless there was some drawback to doing it.
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>>507820091
It’s almost like the International Box Office hasn’t been accounted for yet.
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>>507819952
ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS!
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>>507820091
still won the domestic box office (so far).
Also, sonic 3 just launched internationally this week, last week was just US and Canada, meanwhile mufasa tried to fire on all fronts at once
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>>507819846
>>507819920
But that's not their original origin. I want Shadow to be Gerald's creation. I want Chaos to trapped in the Master Emerald. I don't want the answer to always be they are aliens that just so happen to find their way to Earth.
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>>507819968
I meant "retconed" but "reconnected" works too for what they believed I guess
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the metal sonic reveal really was like metal cooler huh
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>>507820309
>But that's not their original origin
It is in the movies. Play the games if you want the original shit. The movies are their own universe.
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>>507820407
I got metallix vibes but cooler is understandable
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Cooler>Metal Cooler
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>>507820309
Then play Sonic Adventure and SA2.
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>>507820407
It's a Metallix comic thing.
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>>507820629
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>>507818563
Or just introduce Sage as the new big bad.
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>>507820192
Yeah, about that...
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>>507820658
You are 40 posts too early
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>>507818929
>How would Chaos work without Eggman?
The last few remnants of the birds and the Echidnas go to war to try and finally wipe out the other side once and for all. Maybe GUN gets involved, thinking Chaos is a weapon they can exploit, while Tikal knows how dangerous Chaos is and is trying to prevent him from being unleashed.
That kinda plot you coukd do with Rockwell, Great Battel Kukku, the Babylin Rogues, hell, Imperator Ix if they really wanted.
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>>507820658
The thread isn't even at bump you fucking impatient retard
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>>507820407
More like the terminator
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>>507820728
cope, sonic still just launched in international theaters
mufasa was a week early
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>>507819189
>Eggman worked on a Metal Sonic prototype but never finished it
>Stone finds the blueprints and, using what he has learned, completes it
>Metal sees Stone as weak and not a true genius like Eggman so goes rogue
It's really not that hard to imagine, anon.
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>>507811142
The Kid Sidekick archetype is the antithesis of a perpetual status quo at its core, because the driving concept for the Kid Sidekick archetype is a young child growing into a mature, independent and strong adult. That goes for actual sidekicks like Robin and the subverted NON-sidekicks like Spider-Man. The appeal is a young kid or kid-adjacent character that can be relatable to young audiences, as someone they can project onto. A character like Robin for Batman, is basically like...

Imagine if you were an average kid that no one understands. And one day, you gain some magical ability to meet your favorite comic book superhero in real life, and magically enter the comic book world. Now, you have the opportunity to stay by his side and kick him into shape, as a sidekick. Meaning, you can now be just like your hero fighting bad guys and doing cool things just like him.

That's basically what Tails is meant to represent. But within that, the natural progression for this "KID" character is to GROW UP. Because they can't just stay in this perpetual bubble of being stuck in their hero's shadow as a mere "sidekick", or forever remain an immature "kid" suffering with whatever struggles they have in life. For this "kid" to be stuck as a "kid" and stay in that cycle of suffering forever, never being able to actually move on from it, you get the current Amazing Spider-Man comics. Which is not what any Spider-Man fan actually wants.

But that's what happens when "status quo is god". If the initial premise was "an average kid that no one understands" whose defined by how miserable his life is, and he has a desire to be someone cool or amazing, or the potential to grow into such a person... Then the status quo means keeping him trapped in that infantile state, when the actual story inherently demands that the kid realize this potential.

The core of who and what Tails is demands that he someday reach the highest of all the heavens, otherwise he fails as a concept.
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>>507820703
I hope they keep her as a CGI loli A.I
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>>507820091
But it's on track to outgross Sonic 2, that's the important thing.
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>>507820790
Had to fix the thread number because the previous baker, the dumbass he is, chose to re-use a dead thread.
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>>507821001
You could have waited till we were at 730
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>>507820898
>Eggman worked on a Metal Sonic prototype but never finished it
Nope after Eggman's defeat in Sonic 2 Eggman made no attempt to continue working. Your theory falls apart at your first point.
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Mufasa will win because Disney booked out every fucking IMAX / big screen and forced double the showings at every cinema, it's a simple numbers game.
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Maybe they can use the witchcarters for Sonic 4?
maybe they can make Wade the new villian
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>>507798673
>Amy's own a bakery that she helps run
I thought it was decided it was the Rose family flower shop?
Also she apparently lives in some green zone hill, thanks IDW.
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>>507821089
I know it's hard to fire up those few braincells of yours especially after Christmas, but just try and imagine that maybe it could have happened at another point - or even concurrently within Sonic 3 after he agreed to work again - with Eggman using Sonic's quills as a design base for the prototype.
Think real hard anon, I believe in you!
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>>507820905
>The Kid Sidekick archetype is the antithesis of a perpetual status quo at its core
I would argue that archetype was conceived solely to attract younger audiences as a form of self insert to the story, nobody expected robin to become nightwing, nor did they expect him to grow up at all, but other than that I have no other complaints with this post
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>>507821339
Wally West into Flash
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>>507820790
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>>507819686
It's pretty funny that not only is this the only appearance of STC Big, but he's also used fucking perfectly, he has no clue as to what is happening upstairs and he's completely divorced from the main plot.
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>>507821307
Nope this is just pure cope. You're hoping Sonic 4 will tie Metal Sonic to a dead Eggman somehow. When in fact Sonic 4 will cut Eggman out of his origin like they did with Gerald and Shadow. There's no point in time Eggman could have even thought to make Metal Sonic. You're going to get shit writing for Metal Sonic's existence and you movie fags will gladly slurp up that slop.
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>Thread still unfinished and new one is being used
More posting for me
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Fang > your fav
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>>507821339
>I would argue that archetype was conceived solely to attract younger audiences as a form of self insert to the story,
Yes that's how it begins, but the actual concept itself comes packaged with the narrative of growth. It may not have been anticipated at first, but its the logical conclusion.

If you were to magically wish yourself into your favorite comic book and become the sidekick to your favorite superhero... Well, at that point, you're just the tagalong kid in the hero's shadow. You're the underdog and you have the desire to be an actual "HERO" yourself, not just some "kid". And as the kid, you're inherently the young apprentice "in-training". Altogether, this means that you are narratively built up as having "potential", but it lies currently untapped. There is a motivation to be something more than what you currently are, but you're held back by certain factors or obstacles.

All of this is what creates the narrative of growing beyond that initial premise.

Tails was a timid kid who was bullied for being different. Then he saw Sonic run by, and was swept away with the thought of being as cool as him. So, Tails started running behind Sonic, and trying to keep up with him and emulate his actions. But then... with Sonic Adventure, the logical conclusion is that Tails has changed a lot since he started hanging with Sonic, but he can't depend on him forever. He's got to run with his own strength someday, and believe in himself. That's what allowed Tails to be the hero of Station Square, with everyone cheering him on for his courage and capabilities. A direct contrast to where he started in Sonic 2.

That's the underlying narrative at its core. A kid who wants to be someone amazing is the story of how this kid could actually be that amazing person. If that "amazing" potential is never realized, then you've got a potential man who constantly fails and fails and fails over and over again because hey, that's "relatable", right?
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>>507821580
again, I dont think he was created with the intent to replace barry, it may have become a trend later on but it wasn't intended to be that way from the start
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>>507822004
It may not have been intended, but it's the inevitable logical conclusion of introducing a character like that. Wally West was literally the Flash's number one fan when he was first introduced. He was "KID Flash"... But he can't just be "Kid" Flash and idolize Barry Allen forever, can he? One day, the Kid will have to grow up, and run beyond his mentor.
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marineee
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marine v3
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Metal Marine
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>>507822219
>But he can't just be "Kid" Flash and idolize Barry Allen forever, can he?
Yes, he can. Characters are made with function first. If Tails was ever meant to be separate from Sonic as a strained successor he would already be one. There would be no Robin to Nightwing. He would already be Nightwing and then talk about the days where he used to be with Batman, already dressed as Nightwing
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Can someone explain to me why Mepheles would need Silver to go back into the past to kill Sonic. Mepheles can already time travel so what's the point of getting Silver to do it? And why pretend to be Shadow at all?
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>>507812939
>amy, sonic official is now in the sonic movieverse.
>deranged yaoi fans still draw this kind of stuff.
I don't get those guys.
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>>507812158
Sure Taylorfag. You said the same thing last time when you defended Joker 2.
>Muh good movie nevermind Joker getting gangraped
Fucking piece of shit.
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