Dance Edition>Previous>>507741962>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>MAJOR NEWSNov 13: Democracy Space Station https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/1856900453667164360Dec 12: Omens of Tyrrany https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk0XkX0U_m0Dec 13: Urban Legends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchI4TFLOTgDec 18: Killzone collab part 1 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516322672418750491Dec 19: Killzone collab part 2 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516322672418750732>LATEST PATCHDec 18 1.002.003 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516322672418750479
>>507844939d10 robbi
>>507845115Anon is clearly a virgin, he doesn't know how to put it in the hole yet.
If we trained an AI to play Helldivers 2, would it avoid the western front?
>>507845035AC users are dumb as a rock
Reminder that Super Earth are the Bad Guys.
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>>507845163point&click autoGODcannon for approximately 0.3 seconds17 dead shield devs>>507845267b-but I'm just as good with RG and AMR ;_;
Why does the Tutorial only have one Helldiver and not multiple Helldivers? Aren't they expected to work in a team?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244520716742/76561198070044660d10 sissy decides the faction
>>507845510You have your cardboard teammate. You didn't shoot him, right?
>>507845510we need semi-linear missions. imagine a 4-player tutorial mission but longer, with branching paths, modified heavies as bosses, and a legally distinct warthog run for an extraction.
>>507845229We need AIs that play as slutty anime girl divers that reward us with sex for completing major orders.
>>5078455493/4
>>507845686No, we need chemical castration for people that watch anime.
game felt too easy until i turned on cross-play and started getting matched into low level ps5 player lobbies in diff 8/9big difference from pc player pool lmao
>>507846064I've been saying it all year, diff8/9 are harder because you meet more controller players and clueless nabs
>>507845915this
To all newfags using WASP>You don't have to use the whole magazine for artillery >You can fire a few in burst mode, the switch to artillery >It will have a smaller airburst effect>Gas + airburst is your friend>It's fun to call down a resupply somewhere high and airburst every patrol you can lock onto on the map using the entire resupply>Yes, I am the guy that alerts every single patrol I see. I play the game to shoot things
>>507846064>turned on cross-playwhy would you EVER do that
>>507845549is it full?
D10 whateversteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244523411579/76561198065814666
>>507846550Dont worry, as long as you keep every Drop/Breach/Void ships on you, then I can complete the objectives in peace
christmas shitter here, how do I use the flamethrower without killing myself, and why do I never see anyone else use it? I main the crispr in DRG and I wanna be the flamethrower guy in helldivers, too
>>507847259This desu.>some players are shitting up their side of the map>absolutely nothing spawns on the objectives because all the spawns are already happening somewhere elseIt makes the game too easy
>>5078471743/4
>>507847365Don't walk forward when using itUse the fire protection armorYou will still get lit up
>>507847174full
>>507847365Dive to put yourself out
yes I run the Spear + backpack yes I shootdown drop ships and UFO's so you have less things to shoot outno I will not apologize
>>507847365never dive backwards while burning, that will set you on fire everytimeflamethowers deal direct damage as well as setting the ground on fire. These pools of fire deal a seperate instance of fire, and then setting enemies on fire also deals fire damage. Against many light enemies, an efficient method can be to set a patch of ground on fire and let the pool of fire + the on fire damage kill them, while also letting you move away full speed. When you light on fire, dive immediately to extinguish yourself. Med stims also heal way faster then fire tick damage.And direct fire damage still interacts with the parts/limbs damage system of the game, so always aim for weakpoints of enemies when applying the flamethrower directly.All flamers are AP4, so they can hurt just about anything and do good damage to most light to medium enemies
>>507846550The real question I have, is when do I ever want artillery over burst? Does it change the damage/explosion? Or just the trajectory of the rockets.
>>507847365Most people don't use it because it's worthless on bots in 99% of situations and on bugs you have to rely on other people or stratagems to deal with chargers and bile titans so it's just a mediocre way to kill chaff. Why get close to them in the first place, you'll probably die to your teammates sentries
>>507847823>>507847365Sorry what I meant to say is don't hold don't the flamer while diving backwards. Also enemies can set you on fire as the flame particles radiate/bounce off them so do be aware that close enemies are gonna ignite you as well. The flamers all pretty much deal close to the same damage, the difference is in handling, ammo tank sizes.
>>507847621>>507847758>>507847823cheers fellas>>507847981yeah I had a feeling this was the case
>>507847365>how do I use the flamethrower without killing myselfYou don't, you will always set yourself on fire sometimes while using it. Use flame armor so you just tickle yourself instead of killing yourself, but it's still annoying to have to dive.>and why do I never see anyone else use it?See above
>>507847365The support weapon flamethrower in this game just sucks, sadly. You'll have to wait for a patch for it to get better, which may take at least a month. You might have better luck with the Torcher, which is a primary weapon version, but that requires shelling out money for microtransactions.As the other anon said, get ahold of Inflammable or Acclimated armor. The only one that you can get for free right now is the Killzone collab light set, which unfortunately is light armor and sucks. The reason you're getting set on fire is probably you're setting the ground on fire in front of you and then walking on that ground, try to aim slightly higher and avoid setting the ground on fire. But at the end of the day, flamethrowers are retreat weapons, you want to either stand your ground and melt things coming at you or set the ground on fire and back up and let that do the work for you.
>>507848259>>507848195Honestly I find default medium armor to work better still then actual dedicated armor, because armor still reduces fire damage and now you reduce the damage from everything, which is important because you are going into the danger zone where melee, acid, explosions, bullets, are all a danger. Another solution is to just go stim armors and just use the extra stims and longer stim times to just tank the inevitable beating you are going to take.
>>507848259>>507848195I already got Democratic Detonation with sc I got from in game, shouldnt take too long to get freedoms flame or whatever its called the same way
>>507847912Trajectory for the most part. If you aiming at something across the map, it goes waaaaaay up in the air before it starts heading to it's target, so it's a guaranteed hit because it's coming straight above the target. You can also hit things behind walls (it lock on behind walls)
>>507847767Hahaha sure man, that one rocket a minute is really impactful vs the 4 ships at a time on every drop.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244525393941/76561198070044660game crashed, d10
>>507848461>>507848510I just use heavy flame armor, especially since you're up close. The damage from getting set on fire is so miniscule that you can honestly ignore it for a bit until you kill everything. The only downside is the heavy armor is in the super store, so look out for it if you want it.
>>507848594no need to thank me anon, it's better than the precisely 0 dropships my teammates shoot down
>>507848594Oh yeah? You volunteering to team reload me?
>>507848541Does the trajectory change let you hit bot tanks behind their faceplate, closer to the vent?
>>5078489393/4
>>507847365Don't bother using it until they finally make it usable (give it a range AT LEAST comparable to the flamethrowers that automatons use)
>eruptor and dominator have a drag factor of 0>that means they lose 0 damage over and distance>this means they deal SIGNIFICANTLY more damage than even the marksman or literal snipers outside of 50mWhy though?
>>507848510Well, it kind of depends. The free 700 SC from Helldivers Mobilize effectively gives you one free warbond, if you already spent that on Democratic Detonation then it might take you a bit longer to get Freedom's Flame.Don't listen to what other anons say, Freedom's Flame is a decently good warbond. The shotgun is really good, and the primary weapon flamethrower is better than the support weapon version. It also gives you a set of medium fireproof armor which is also handy on fire tornado planets. About the only thing you don't want to use from the warbond is the booster, which actively hinders your team.
>>507849289Range or a slow/stagger, they have to do one or the other. Like you could give it insane damage, but I think that would cause even bigger issues by the time you made flamers viable that way. I definitely would prefer range because then you could use it in way more situations and maybe even fight bots with it.
>>507849328Because they are chunky clunky and projectile weapons and because their damage comes from exploding whenever they get wherever and so swedes reason that means no damage falloff.
>>507849328Because they use exploding ammo. The damage comes from the "bullet" blowing up when it hits something, not from the velocity.
>>507849468Its damage is already serviceable in my opinion, the problem to me is that using it's impossible to use without being raped by anything 6ft away from you.
>>507849391Thanks for the advice. Oh yeah the fuckin firebomb one? I thought that sounded cool as shit until I thought about it for one second. Democratic detonation comes with 300 SC and I still have roughly half of Mobilize to go so the wait shouldnt be too bad. That reminds me, would the expert pilot booster hinder the team? I know some people deliberately wait out the clock on extract for some reason
>>507849650>>507849643No, even the actual impact itself has a drag factor of 0. I guess it's because they're self propelled shells?
>>507849675Yeah I agree, what I am saying is hypothetically you could keep ramping the damage up till even at it's short range it's still a viable weapon, but that would probably be nuts and a bad idea for making them better.
Will they drip feed the Illuminate units or will they drop them all at once?
>>507849328dominator specifically fires rocket jet ammo. in the real world that means it continues to accelerate after leaving the barrel, in the video game it just means zero fall-off. Eruptor has a set max range and deals zero damage beyond it.
>>507849680>expert pilot boosterIt just doesn't do much, its a useless pick over things that give you more stamina/health/movement.
>>507849885It seems like they are building up for a "the main fleet" arrives moment so it seems like the bulk of them will be all at once.
>>507850015What would this look like in-game? level 15 (or whatever the highest is) invasions of every planet in a huge chunk of sectors in the galactic south?>>507849963Only boosters I have so far are the fully stocked one and the increased sensor range one. I have a feeling im not gonna get anything better than the ammo booster for quite a while
>>507849680Expert Extraction just does nothing at worst. A lot of the time people will just sit at extraction to farm kills so it doesn't really matter, but if you have a hot extract with a bunch of enemies pushing your shit in (honestly a rarity since extraction seems to be bugged and a lot of the time nothing even tries to kill you as you wait) then needing to hold your ground for less time can be nice.The game isn't so hard as to require top tier meta picks in every single slot every single time. People might look down on you for picking Expert Extraction, but at D10 I often get people picking Increased Reinforcement Budget or Flexible Reinforcement Budget, both of which end up doing nothing because we never get below 10-15 reinforcements.
>>507850248>What would this look like in-game? level 15 (or whatever the highest is) invasions of every planet in a huge chunk of sectors in the galactic south?Yeah probably. String of defense missions but this time they actually take planets once the defense fails. Then more permanent standard faction stuff.They had the jet brigade do offensives that we had to blunt before they could get too far, were basically we lost planets but those planets served as speed bumps, could be something similar.
>>507850248If it's anything like the bots, they just instantly take over about a half-dozen planets in two or three sectors with no chance to contest. The logistics might be a bit more complex this time around since we can actually see the supply lines now.
>>507850527I figured. I'll save my requisition then for something cooler and just enjoy being fully stocked on drop. >>507850575Yeah that's what I was trying to say, basically they invade every planet in what will inevitably become their little corner of the galaxy. Also Jet Brigade? It sucks coming to the game and missing all the Malevon Creek drama and whatever the jet brigade thing is.Also lore question: how the fuck are super earth colonies so god damn wide spread if it's only the year 2184, and how can the SE Navy crank out an entire starship, what essentially amounts to future version of an assault or light carrier, for every single helldiver?
>>507850248Ammo booster is nice. But really boosters aren't so important that they change the game much, just lock it in before higher level people do so they can pick boosters you don't have.
>>507851074>Also Jet Brigade? IThey had a specific "brigade" fleet that was packed to the gills with jetpack bots. Very fun because you get to do airshots and trap shooting all day and it switches up the gear you bring for bots.They also got a big attack fleet so they had very high intensity missions and were hard to stop. They aren't active right now but they aren't gone, so they could show up again.
>>507850841Illuminate have FTL warp tech and just appear wherever the fuck they want to attack so far, supply lines don't matter
>friday>barely any lobbiesToo many normie sexhavers in this general going out and partying
>>507851074Billions upon billions of people doing hard labor all across the galaxy. When labor and environmental laws don't exist, industry can pull off some pretty nifty shit.
>>507851110yeah I figured that trick out early, thankfully. Still a shitter but Ive started nabbing booster first, then usually whatever support I happen to have an itch for in the moment, then a calldown and two sentries because Im shit at remembering i have calldowns to use. It's a shame team reloading basically never happens unless you're playing with friends; absolutely laying down pipe with the recoiless rifle is such a sick feeling. Also is there any actual use in the jet pack besides boba fett larp
>>507851692Jet Pack is incredibly helpful for getting out of dodge in a bad situation with bugs, and is extremely handy for movement in urban environments (squids). Not particularly helpful at bots.
>>507851793How does it help the team though
>>507851835Not dying tends to be a positive for the team's reinforcement budget.
>>507851835Speed and mobility mean getting objectives done and clearing the map and points of interests faster.
>>507851692you dont realize how much time the jetpack can save you and the extra options it gives you until you start using it. its really great for vaulting or climbing normally impassable walls or obstacles or creating distance in an emergency.
>>507851927>>507851927>>507851978>>507851992Fair enough, I'll give a try and be the team not-dier. Any fun weapon combos? thermite grenade for some hit and run shenanigans?
>>507852145Experiment with everything. The more you use things and play the game, the more you understand making fun combos. Don't fall into a meta, that's how you kill the soul of the game, that isn't even that difficult to begin with.
>>507852145Thermite Grenade is mostly useful to dispatch Chargers/Impalers on bugs without relying on your stratagems. Hulks also, but if you're in Thermite throwing range you're in getting fucked by the Hulk range.
>>507849261It's like the Orbital Airburst strike, so no. Burst mode can on occasion. I usually fire 3 or 4 at a Hulk just in case they do. If it doesn't blow up, I empty the rest the reload.
>>507852362ngl I kind of enjoy being shit at the game, I can't imagine having fun with it if you're so skilled that D10 is easy. Also enjoying not knowing the meta so I can just enjoy my favorite weapons and calldowns for their own sake spear/medium MG/supply pack/orbital laser/mortar, gatling, and AC sentries>>507852383>Hulks also, but if you're in Thermite throwing range you're in getting fucked by the Hulk range.Found this one out the hard way. Still am not sure what makes the grenade stick or not stick, besides cooking it for a half second to give the spikes time to deploy
>>507846736To feel something
going forward I'm just kicking anyone who brings a barrage before the match starts, ESPECIALLY if it's all they brought
I'm going to play powerwash simulator until someone makes a lobby
God I want an M56 Smartgun>500 rd drum mag>Smart IFF, cannot hit friendlies>you still have to aim to hit weakpoints>give it liberator AP for all I care>I just want to Adios
>>507852867Here's the thing, despite what the shitters here have to say, a fuck ton of stuff is viable and good. Anything that isn't, you'll notice right away, like fire on bots is just frustrating. Use all the support weapons and you'll find their strengths.
>>507853473steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244530162166/76561198005570064d10 dealers choice of enemies
>>507853615That seems true. I would never, ever have given the gas mines a single thought until I was on a defense mission yesterday and they were given to all helldivers, and I realized they absolutely fucking mob voteless without destroying the gates or sentries. And Im gonna keep using the spear instead of the RR because nobody team reloads in random lobbies, and I have shit aim so the lock on helps with that, and with targets I can't see when theres smoke and fire everywhere
>>507852145grenade launcherthe jetpack gives you the space and elevation to use it more effectively, especially now that shooting while jumping is more approachable
>>507853473HD2 Powerwash DLC when?
>>507849328Jet-propelled ammo
>>507854098HD2 Halo/Gears of War/Resistance crossover/ 4th enemy faction when? >>507853891nobody team reloads and therefore the extra ammo from the RR doesnt help* is what I meant by that
>join pub squids>5 minutes in: Connection has been lost>join another pub squids>10 minutes in: Connection has been lostkill all swiggers why the fuck does this only happen on squids
Why are people obsessed with a fourth faction?
>>507849328The Eruptor has low bullet velocity and a very slow fire rate. The Dominator has poor handling. It's not like they're without cons.
Alright helldivers indulge me another noobshitter question: The weapons progression system seems to be generally pretty good about power creep; i.e. the HMG isn't necessarily better than the regular MG or at all in my opinion just because you unlock it later, same with the Gatling and AC sentries. Most weapons seem to fill a role and not make earlier unlocks totally obsolete, which I like. HOWEVER, what exactly is the point of strategems like the machine gun sentry, gatling orbital, eagle precision strike? level 1 strategems that seem to become obsolete almost immediately. Or do they?
>>507849328They're both ass to handle, Eruptor has a set max range, and Dominator has a slow ass projectile and no scope. Also gyrojet>>507855128Almost nothing is truly useless, except the orbital railgun and mines. Everything else is at WORST mid.
>>507855413I've had some luck with mines, almost exclusively on defense missions or otherwise any situation when I know the exact direction the enemy is coming from ahead of time. The orbital rail cannon seems great, basically a free titan kill, but thankfully a couple of threads ago an anon pointed out that the ORC is a noob trap and I took his advice and got the laser instead.But for real though? The MG turret has a use the gatling turret doesnt?
>>507855413>orbital railgunNothing wrong with the ORC, it one-taps a Titan in a pinch
>>507855987Gatling will waste ammo everywhere by pissing it at max speed. MG turret is more efficient and slower cooldown.Defense missions are like the exceptions where mines aren't 100% worthless, and still i would only pick them as a meme.Railgun is 100% baby's first stratagem because its a long reload for killing just one heavy, if it doesn't go for a hive commander instead.>>507856206Nothing wrong if you're under level 20, yeah.
>>507856206I saw an anon point out a few days ago that it's almost always better to carry a heavy weapon or let a teammate handle it. It's got something like a 180 second cooldown, and the laser can get the job done just as well and continue burning shit for another 15 seconds or so
>>507855128>machine gun sentryBest sentry in the game (low CD)>gatling orbitalBest chaff killer orbital in the game (low CD)>eagle precision strikeIf you mean orbital precision strike, then best single target AT orbital in the game (low CD)
>>507849328Oh so that's why the jar dominator goes so hard on bots. Time to pick it back up again.
>>507856530This
>>507856206>nothing wrong with sacrificing 1/4 of your ordinance to kill one (1) titan every 4 minutesNo, it's bad. The opportunity cost is waaay too high.
>>507856530I dont care if im level 23 and ~20 hours in, I will never believe the MG is better than the gatling. Also on the topic, why ever pick EAT over Commando? or EAT ever at all?
>>507855128the MG sentry has insane availability and generally survives long enough to chunk whatever it shoots at. its a really good distraction that can also put a dent into an enemy force especially if thrown on a flank. Its cooldown is only like two minutes or less too.The precision strike is good for illukinate ships or against heavy enemies or tight groups combined with stun grenades but does suffer from taking a bit to actually hit. Has way better uptime then the railcannon though.Orbital gatling vomits enough damage in a static area for a long time to deal with most chaff and has very low cooldown making it good on bug breaches or drops to soften a force. Can deal a fairly significant amount of damage on its own if a tank decides to park under it.the only actual near useless things are>mines (entire field too easily destroyed, too long cooldown, doesnt mesh with almost always needing to be moving elsewhere)>mortars (teamkills you if even one enemy bleeds through to you and attracts every patrol)>eagle rocket pods (every single time I use these I am disappointed because they are too inconsistent as an anti armor option when 500kg is barely any different and right there)>smoke stratagems (lol)
>>507856206Don't give advices if you're not at least level 100 please
>>507855128machine gun sentry has a better ammo economy and cooldown over the gatling sentry DPSPrecision strike is one of the best stratagems because it's fast, precise, low cooldown and will usually blow up 90% of things it comes into contact with (including some objectives that can be hard to do)Eagle strike has been buffed and is one of the best way to chew through bot patrols.Orbital gatling is hit or miss, but not useless. It's basically an area denial tool that will soften up and remove chaff.I regularly use precision strike and eagle strike. Keep in mind that some upgrades also help making stratagems better. 380 and 120mm barrages were deemed kinda useless until some upgrades (and slight fixes) came along.It all come down on knowing what can the stratagem do for you and when to use it.If you're starting out, i encourage you to use the eagle airstrike, orbital airburst and 120mm barrage.Eagle airstrike is the most swiss knife of all the stratagems, you can almost never go wrong with it AND you can use it twice (three times after upgrade)
I've been trying to random queue into Tier 8 missions to chill out from Tier 10s but every single one is a bunch of sub level 30 players getting their asses handed to them. What's up with that?
>squid culling with randos>midway through someone thankfully calls down a car>they drive off without me>ping the car and fire a warning shot to get their attention>voteless slaps my ass as i'm ADSing and my senator shot whiffs and accidentally pops one of their tiresoops..
>>507856810>I will never believe the MG is better than the gatlingIt's not. But the MG is always off cooldown when you need it to be. Infact, you can call it down at the beginning of a fight and then call it down to clean up the stragglers at the end because of the Cool Down.
>>507856925D7-D8 is where the retard supercluster hangs out. sometimes its chill and others its a black hole of stupidity.
>>507856842The airburst launcher is good and more people should use it
>>507856925>join the lower difficulty>find players of lower skill
>>507856813What about on higher difficulties when you need the gatlings DPS? I was wondering about smoke though, I think I've been in exactly one situation where I had time to think it would be nice to have smoke>>507856865I do like me some eagle strikes, I've been grinding out samples to get my hangar upgradedI dont care what anybody else says, I love the mortar
>>507856810>I dont care if im level 23 and ~20 hours in, I will never believe the MG is better than the gatling. Also on the topic, why ever pick EAT over Commando? or EAT ever at all?Your opinion is worthless, continue playing and come back in 200-300 hours to tell us about it, instead of spewing bullshit.Asking questions is ok, but when you ask questions, and then refuse to believe anons who have been playing the game since day 1, its just annoying.>>507856925Christmas>>507857248True.
Newfag hereI am trying to fight the bots, but my starting weapons are pretty shit against themI decided to grind towards the veterans warbond and get the dominator, but fuck me this takes foreverHow do i fight the bots with my shitty, no pen starting equipment?
>>507857386Aim for the head
does anyone know if the killzone sets will become part of the regular rotation or if they're gone forever after this?
>>507857372no
>>507857386only the chest sections of Devastators are medium armored, their legs and head are light, aim there. also USE YOUR GRENADES, the HE is medium penetrating and does a ton of damage.
>game has never been this easy>newfags asking for tips left and rightJust figure out the game by yourselves, you disgusting normalfags. Its literally half the fun.
>>507856810Commando:>2 rockets to kill heavy(1 to blt vent)>4 total rockets>tracking>2 minute cooldownEAT>1 rocket to kill heavy>2 total rockets>1 minute cooldown>spamming EATs let's teammates have AT at any given moment>faster call in time
>>507847174GGs bros, was a good time
>>507857558set 1 is rotation, although i'm not sure about the sniper set that was handed out for free.
Guys the black hole is getting smaller what does that mean
>>507857558Theyll become apart of the rotation. At least until they introduce the store update they keep talking about
>>507857324The gatling takes the same amount of time to change off a target as the MG so it usually ends up just burying a corpse in excess lead. The MG changes targets slightly faster and its rare that the kill time on a light or medium target will make the difference in DPS. What makes the difference is how fast the turret can acquire a new target and how many it takes out, and its cooldown. The MG wins out in almost all of those unless you’re dealing with a shitton of chunky soft targets like alpha commanders, spewers, or zerkers. The MG is also somewhat less likely to cut you in half if its field of fire sweeps over you, unlike the gatlinf.
I know it'll likely take until 2035 but anyway what's (You)r priority one addition to Helldivers 3?
>>507857625Just headshot them, even the basic ass Diligence one-taps them to the dome.
>friend 1 joins game and doesn't get the promo set>friend 2 joins 10 minutes later and gets ithow screwed is friend 1?
>>507857324Smoke is a good idea on paper, but ultimately it's a mechanic that actually doesnt work, whether it's code or gameplay.For the sentry, it's a tradeoff. Do you want constant fire and use it often or a sentry that will mulch anything light in sight for about 30-40s ? Keep in mind that MG and minigun sentries are rarely used outside of illuminates (at higher levels)Eagle stratagems are very nice, but keep in mind that they share cooldowns. Ultimately, it's an easy to use and repeatable type of stratagem.Mortar is fun and useful, but also its low accuracy means that it will kill you at some point when the enemy gets closer
>>507857859Bro i don't even have everything i want in Helldivers 2, why would i think about 3 ? Give explosive packs, AR-20L Justice, APC, Bastion, etc
>>507857248Agreed. I don't think there's any stratagem weapon that makes me feel closer to my creator than the ABRL. Maybe the flamer.
>>507857859Multiple races like Dragons, Vipers from Xcom, and humans. No furrys tho
>>507857859FPP mode.
>>507857859curvy body typejiggle physicsarmor that makes you into a quadruple amputee cyborglimb destruction mechanic that renders you into a limbless fucknugget other divers can pick up like objective equipment
>>507857938network fuckery, give it a few days and fren 1 should get it.
im level 23 when do I stop being shit?
>>507857859Make a better AI Arrowhead. As of now it's a shooting gallery with the occasional death. The enemies aren't thinking or reacting, it's just a flowchart of>see player>move towards player>shoot and or melee playerAlso bring back the stuff from Helldivers 1 you fucking hacks>helldivers 3I don't even know if they'll consider it after the way the can keep milking reddit players with mediocre concepts.
>>507858274Another 30
>>507857992Justice model looks so cool I am mad we got Adjudicator instead of it.
>>507856810>>507858274Level 50 you will start to understand the game>>507858395Me too anon, me too.
>>507857859nonbinary and POC helldiversmore LGBT representation in generalless ableism too, there isnt a single reason why in the year 2184 a differently abled person can't be a helldiver. >>507857727Oh my bad I thought they had the same projectile. I'll give the EAT another try next time i have a team that isnt heavy enough on AT. I guess it's nice anytime you know you're gonna be at an objective for a few minutes or longer. >>507857843I guess I'll have to at least try the MG sentry too. >>507857953I did notice the eagle strats share cooldowns, which I suppose does make perfect sense. Also I guess this is a moot point if smoke just straight up doesnt even work, but if it did maybe just have a smoke grenade in the game and replace the strats with something else or remove them entirely >>507857372>discourse? on MY 4chan?kill yourself
>he joined late because he didn't believe the game would be good>he never played HD1Normgroids go back
>>507857859Underground base or ship boarding combat. No orbital stratagems or Eagles, or even calling in support weapons. Just go in with what's on your back, fight room to room, scrounge for ammo, etc.
>>507858649>have a smoke grenadeYou'll never guess what's in the game.I hold hope that they'll fix it eventually, but as the game is now, it's usually better to just kill the enemy than avoid or smoke to try and break contact.
is the game fucking up (more than usual) today? i keep getting mission where we're rotating out like 10 different divers because everyone is DCing.
>>507858649This anon doesn't play the game. Half the shit he's talking about is already in the game and he doesn't know.
>>507857717Warbonds are expensive as fuck and SCs are hard to grind, i just wanna know what warbond i should get, so i dont waste my hard grinded cash on one with shitty weapons
>>507858897>there is a smoke grenadeoh>>507859004sorry I havent put it hundreds of hours I dont know what all the weapons are yet
>>507859038democratic detonation > steeled veterans > cutting edge > urban > the rest
>>507859038Almost everything is good now. Just look at whatever warbond you find cool and unlock it. And if you're not sure about it, look at some gameplay online or ask for specifics here. But stop asking people how YOU should play the game.
>>507859038>SCs are hard to grindlmao, you can get 1k+/hour with a full /hdg/ farming squad
Now that they added the illuminates, there's relatively little to look forward in HD2.>new enemy units>new weapons>new stratagems>new maps>new mission typesBut all of the above are pretty vague and minor and there's nothing guaranteed to be fun or with a feeling of novelty for normoids.How can they even spice things up again without adding a 4th faction?
>>507859317im getting freedoms flame just for the flamethrower shit and you can't stop me
D10 squiggerssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244507746810/76561198062049662
>>507859292>sorry I havent put it hundreds of hours I dont know what all the weapons are yetPOC and nonbinary are in too, retard.
>>507859583retard just join me >>507848939
>>507859604are the squids nonbinary
>>507859460you'll be sorely disappointed.
>>507859657i already have a group of 3. i just forgot to mention in my post>>507859583full
>>507859604John, kill this sissy.
>>507859438>we don't even have the full illuminate roster and this faggot is already doomingDumb CONSOOOOOOMER>>507859693Man you're dumber than a brick
>>507859710if I have to grind SC for 10 hours just to get that shitty 75% fire damage reduction it will be worth it to me
>>507859438>How can they even spice things up again without adding a 4th faction?Faction vs. faction warzones where the Helldivers have to contend with two other factions already fighting between themselves (which the devs have already confirmed is possible, just a memory nightmare).
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244525393941/765611980700446603/4 d10 etc
>>507858715
Dead game, dead thread
>>507859901Confirmed it'll be in, or confirmed that its a memory nightmare?
Hey did the hole go away for anyone else?
>>507860305Its a bug
>>507859693Maybe the joke is anything that isn't an automaton is technically non-binary.
>>507860258Confirmed that it's possible (factions can be made to fight themselves), but it's very difficult to add Helldivers to that equation due to memory issues.
>>507860342>gigantic terminid has eaten the black hole
>>507860418I wonder why. Not anything close to a software engineer, but I wonder why just replacing half the enemy count with a different faction would be an issue, unless you need to load the AI for both of their behaviors + players and thats why it would be a memory issue
>>507860564N-not like this
>>507859873Don't know what that fag is on about.Cookout is an amazing primary, the whole warbond is worth it for that gun alone. The flamethrower primary is a great alternative to wasting a strategem slot on the flamethrower and so is the secondary. And the flame retardant armor is great it you love running around with the flamethrower, or on planets with fire tornadoes. You'll get the most use of this warbond if you like fighting Terminids, but the Cookout is good against all factions.
>martale with 0% rate>hardly even a 5% playersI mean it wants to make me upset, though on the other hand people want to play with squids.Still I think people don't even try to read the new GUI update values.
>>507860636The game is already super CPU heavy and suffering from it. You add 2 different factions with different AI, that will have to interact with each others. I'm not a software engineer either but i can see why it would be hard to do. Especially when you know how janky the game actually is.
>1 hour until MO endsplace your bets faggots
WASP is supposed to be able to take out DROPships?
>>507860928Makes sense. Also I'll be that guy and ask: would dealing with multiple f actions on the same map actually be as fun as it sounds?
>>507860967Literally nothing. Also they're on vacations until the 7.
>>507860775if you want a good shotgun the halt is far better. cookout is literally on par with it's original weapon that you get from the free battlepass. flamethrower primary sucks ass because your giving up stagger and range for slightly above average damage. Not to mention the rest of the battle pass is dogshit (the booster is the worst in the game and you will be kicked from every single lobby for using it). Crisper and the cookout are the only reasons to ever buy the warbond and they are all outclassed. If you want a strong flamethrower, just use the fucking stratagem.
>>507861151>would dealing with multiple f actions on the same map actually be as fun as it sounds?I do think it would be kino, yes.>>507860967Nothing, just like liberty day. Its an autowin MO.Until we become too complacent and they fuck us in the ass with a surprise attack.
>>507860967gas mine mo returnswe fail
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244535222750/76561197986211529D10 squid games, get the fuck in here
>>507861753>we have to save the orphans againFuck mines, even if the gas ones are probably half decent. They also re-fucked the anti-tank mines and they explode when you walk on it AGAIN
>>507861781Failed
yeah, I use heavy armor
>>507861781Failed to join. Is it private?
>>507857841>the store update they keep talking about?
>>507861781steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244535222750/76561197986211529Should be fixed
i really like the Verdict sidearm and wish i could keep it as a primaryit's really satisfying to magdump/reload without the awkward reload and recoil of the revolver
>>507861460th-that won't happen anon, joel would never
>>507859438>how to spice things up without a 4th factionFlora and Fauna. Introduce pvp with players playing as elite wildlife, Evolve crossover
>>507862080Nope
>>507862080It's not.
>>507862161>Introduce pvp>in a moddable game with comatose anticheatplease no, it would be functionally unplayable and nothing but chinese/russians speedhacking around as nightmare gazelles with deathfog lasers
>>507861781>>507861938>>507861993>>507862080>>507862178>>507862189Fucking clipboard fucking upsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244537314561/76561197986211529Join
>>507862161>PVPGo play your own PvP slop. And even if the concept wasn't retarded, imagine playing a PvP game in 2025. Cheats are fucking rampant, everyone is a turbo sweat playing nothing but the last meta shit, no fun in sight.
>>507862302D10 squids, 3/4
>>507862302>>507862520full
>>507862284That sounds fun as fuck, I think ur just gay
>>507863065Silence zoomer
Anyone know if the Laser Cannon (not quasar) is any good versus harvesters? I've been using the quasar to eliminate ships, harvesters and illegal propaganda towers from range for a while, but the down-time makes it unusable for the medium overseers.
>>507852897>To feel somethingRegret?
>>507860775You still have to stim with flame armor, just run doctor instead
>>507863439just be yourself man>>507863697I kinda thought cross play was on by default desu
>>507863439>unusable for the medium overseerswhy are you shooting light armor targets with anti-tank weaponrymagdump their chest with any sort of kinetic munition and they will die>it doesn't work--you're missingthey aren't like bugs where certain plates just fuck-off your damage until you hit a weakspot, all their styrofoam space armor shatters after being peppered in the same spot
>>507856925>join d7 or d8everyone chimps out about not using the meta weapons>join d10full clear a bot mission with nothing but constitutions
>>507862093You should try Dilgence and its big sister Counter-Sniper, anon. Very similar gun feel to Verdict. A good bit more damage, about the same in recoil, fire rate almost as fast.
>>507864138d7-9 are obviously full of greendivers still trying to figure out the ropesd10 is for grizzled 700-1000hr divers that could bring Cyberstan to heel while naked and armed with nothing but a Loyalist
I hope when the rest of the illuminate show up they stop using so many voteless, hoards of zombies is boring
>>507861379Fire from the flamethrower sticks to the ground and lights enemies that walk over it, I use it to create a barries between me and my enemies. I use the strategem slot for a ranged weapon
>>507854384Same reason the were obsessed with Squids until Squids arrived. People want more.I would live to see a 4th faction. Rather than arrowhead just revamping the 3 from the first game. But I don't expect it.
tfw fighting for my life on D6idk how you guys do it
>>507864720playing with a competent team is a night and day difference
for those of you that couldnt see my model
>>507864838did that happen after you tried to get in the car? because the same thing has happened to me
This triggers the discordfags
>>507864924Is this a new cheat to replace all pois with super shekels or just luck
my level 24 ass and three shitters 6-11 bugdiving d6 without a single booster between the three of em.first time ive seen orbital burst (thrown amidst three people).and somehow we even won a single map out of two.
>>507864720just jump into d10 with a competent team and after a few missions d6 will feel like a joke
>>507864913Yestried to get in the gunner seat in a blitz, kinda fell out the seat somehow and finished the mission like thisI have some footage captured after it happened, will post a webm or two later
>>507865172if Im good enough for D10 with a good team shouldn't I be good enough to solo D6?
>>507864720Join a /hdg/ lobbyIts fun ferrying around newbies who are capable of learning and speak some amount of english
>>507864061Yeah but that takes about a solid second and half of concentrated fire, which means you aren't doing anything to the swarm or to the drones, or to the elevated seer or -...The quasar also doesn't always 1-shot either, overseers on direct hit and harvesters at the top leg joint, which I am chalking up to shenanigans with the engine.I heard the HMG is good, so I might try that now that I have the grenade pistol. Was just wondering if the laser cannon would be comparable since the biggest issue is that down-time.>>507864621I do too - There's way more of them initially than there are terminids. But it seems once you thin that horde out, that's it - barring dropships, the volume of voteless seems to be drastically decreased. I'd have to research it, but I want to say an initial encounter no dropships netted me somewhere between 50-65 kills with a few overseers, solo. After that, there were only the 10 or so from the odd patrol.
>>507865292yeah but it also depends how you play, if you attack every patrol and constantly get swarms called in, the difficulty will get insane after a while solo
>>507865053LuckNone of them were bunkers btw
>>507865517>attack every patrolI generally avoid that unless Im pretty sure we'll be discovered anyway >>507865301I'll have to try an /hdg/ lobby sometime
>>507864720using our whole loadouts to extreme effectgreat team synergyhaving witnessed the myth, the legend John Helldiver and wanting to be as amazing
>>507846550>>You don't have to use the whole magazine for artillery >>It will have a smaller airburst effectit will fire as many sub-projectiles as you have rounds left in the magazine which means it's basically fucking worthless if you do fire it with only 1 or 2 rounds left so you might as well fire it with a full load
What do you guys recommend for hulks if I bring wasp?
>>507865962I either get a team full of absolute team killing shitters, or 2 shitters, myself, and John Helldiver running around soloing all the objectives, meeting us at the pelican sometimes almost quite literally at the last second. When its me and friends with voip we do reasonably well on 6
>>507866216Senator to the face slit, thermite nade
>>507864720Press V
>>507866216Just pray for goof RNG. Hulks can go down in two burst mode rockets if you are luckey
>>507864924Browns wet dream.
What are some good SC farming tips?
>>507866543browns don't farm, they buy from the store.
>>507866593launch the mission, and pick up the sc from the POI
>>507864838Kek I had that earlier
>>507866593>install the chink mod>start a lobby so you get 3 people to help>jump packs and recon vehicles>everyone runs off in opposite directions>hit every SC PoI you can see and then quit out the mission>repeat
>>507866593Diff 3, open map, no water or cliffs, get car, UAV booster, a fellow nerd or two for bunkers, nice music, quit back to ship once you've cleared all POIs, rinse and repeat, simple as. Easily gets you 30-50 SC every 10 minutes.
>>507862093>wish i could keep it as a primaryBoy, do I have good news for you.
where is the fucking lobby
>>507861379I've considered using Stalwart/MMG as my "primary" and having variety gun in my primary slot but even then there are better options than the flamethrower.Doesn't help machinegun support weapon only really works on Squids because they have no heavy armour units.
will the mechs ever be good? i dont think the lack or reloads, repair, and two deploys will ever make em justifiable.
>>507867027>5 hours of brainless farming for one shitty warbondlolnah
>>507863439Don't know how you've been playing, but the Laser Cannon is godly against Illuminate. It melts Overseer heads like nothing since it doesn't cause them to stagger, and it cuts huge chunks off of Harvesters even if you don't immediately go for the leg kill. Its only real flaw is that it doesn't have enough DPS to quickly break shields, but you have other weapons for that.
>>507866968>>507867027Wait, you dont have to finish the mission to get the SC?
>>507867326Two deploys are cruel in their current state. Like, they're fine as situational "Fun" strategem but absolutely lack survivability that would justify the spawn limit.
>>507867326What's wrong with them?
>>507867326Once they have their own upgrade tree they'll be great.
>>507856530>>gatling orbital>Best chaff killer orbital in the game (low CD)that would be the orbital gas strike or napalm eagle
I hope we will get primary slot melee weapon. Maybe support slot melee. Maybe I'll be able to use a pistol and sword at once, shooting and pressing F to melee with a sword.Fucking Darktide kept this from me I hope the other kind of Swede can deliver.
>>507867803>>507867803just play sm2
>>507867568oh yeah, they are absolutely fun, makes their uselessness all the more tragic tho.>>507867650i wont write the possibility off considering that a gun customization teaser was made, but it does seem like something 2 or so years down the line.>>507867570finite damage dealt with two deploys vs basically nearly every other stratagem with infinite uses and versatility.
>>507868147NTA, but the gameplay is janky as shit and the weapons feel like early HD2. Shit.
>>507854384Because it's fun, and because we like the imagine the possibilities and the new variation to gameplay it would add.
>>507863439It's great, just stick to chopping off one leg at time. Laser canon is a top tier pick against Illuminated, and sucks vs. everyone else.
>>507867552Medals, req, SC are all instantly added to your account
>>507868163Mechs are in this awkward space because they are very strong so if you just gave them a long cooldown, pretty sure they would turn all bug and illuminate missions into stomps. Bots could still put up a fight.
>>507867552NoYou may not believe it, but the swede is actually your friend
>>507867027>UAV boosterdoes it extend the range you can see question marks on the compass?I thought it just extended the range you can see enemy pips on the compass
>log out at the worm hole before order ends>log back in>Now at Super EarthUhhhh....... bros?
Didn't the major order succeed? How long does it take to get rewards?
>>507867027>180 to 300 sc per hourDo browns really?
How often are major orders not consecutive? Is there usually a bit of time between MO's?
CHECK THE NEWS
>>507866593sc mod, turn config file line 160 to 10.5 and the lod thing in 40-60 idk which line to 20 and then play with 3 people from hdg
>>507869586>Russia finally used nuclear against UkraineLmao, it's over
I just did my first d10. Squids. I know the roster's just incomplete but it was surprisingly easy.
>>507869586>trump shot againhuh...
guys, it ISNT that hard
>>507869953>>507869731The in game news your mutts
>>507869957>r*ddit shitterswater is wet
>>507869586>Elon Musk has a new role in US politics - and his erratic style is unchangedalright boss what now
>>507869957>slaps roof of orbital rail strike>yep, this badboy can kill one heavy every 5 minutes
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244537314561/76561197986211529D10, lobby decides where go, 2/4
>>507869957>having trouble killing heavies in the era of the R*ddit RifleCome the fuck on now.
>>507869586it's a nothingburger
>>507869957It makes sense if reddit shitters only play on cucksole D6
>>507870195>R*ddit RifleWhat the fuck is a reddit rifle
>>507870184New MO, we're squidding now, 3/4
>"OMG OMG CHECK THE NEWS!!!!"
>>507870405The rocklet rifle, from Planetside 2.That would be fucking tight as a crossover support weapon in HD2.
The harvester caust never happened
>>5078701841 more for total squid death, get in here
TOTAL SQUIDS DEATH! TO ARMS BROTHERS!
GOD i miss Hellmire.
>>507869586I wouldn't worry about it.
New drawing.
>>507870184>>507870654full
>>507870723Nice.
>>507864838Meanwhile this is what I could see. Did you ever even get into the turret?
The blackhole is getting louder bros. It speaks.
WHERE IS MY TOTAL SQUID MURDERFUCK DEATH LOBBY
>>507870820I'm gonna squill myself
>>507870950Same vibe
>>507870998WHAT THE FUCKWHY IS IT MAKING WHALE SOUNDS
>>507871316The squids clearly made some pact with some kind of old cthulhu like old gods. They're basically satan worshipers as far as we're concerned. TOTAL SQUIDS DEATH
>>507871316>>507870998I was sightseeing Meridia this afternoon and i'm almost positive it wasn't that loud
Kill squiggers. Behead squiggers. Roundhouse kick a squigger into the concrete. Slam dunk a squigger baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy cephalopods. Defecate in a squiggers food. Launch squiggers into the sun. Stir fry squiggers in a wok. Toss squiggers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a squiggers gas tank. Judo throw squiggers into a wood chipper. Twist squiggers heads off. Report squiggers to the IRS. Karate chop squiggers in half. Curb stomp pregnant squiggers. Trap squiggers in quicksand. Crush squiggers in the trash compactor. Liquefy squiggers in a vat of acid. Eat squiggers. Dissect squiggers. Exterminate squiggers in the gas chamber. Stomp squigger skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate squiggers in the oven. Lobotomize squiggers. Mandatory abortions for squiggers. Grind squigger fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown squiggers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize squiggers with a ray gun. Kick old squiggers down the stairs. Feed squiggers to alligators. Slice squiggers with a katana.
>7 million harvesters in 6 daysThat doesn't seem rightThe maths don't add up
>>507855128Retard here, base machine gun sentry has a quicker cooldown while still mulching bugs/squids while being less likely to eviscerate teammates to boot. I love the base sentry.
>>507870723Holy shitLiterally mecan you do a version where the diver is also burning
>another full week of filler with gimped squids randomly popping up around the mapFucks sake, bring out their heavies already
SEVENMILLIONHARVESTERS
>>507870631Seven million harvester? In such a short amount of time, and with only so many helldivers? Impossible.
>>507872234Nothing is happening before they get back to work, 7th January, at best. At worst, i suppose we could have to wait until HD2 anniversary on the 8th feb.
>>5078721547 million? Last time I checked it was 8 ! Are you really denying the death of 9 million harvesters?
>>507872323There's 120k people wdym "only so many helldivers". That's like 3x as much as normal
>>507872169The best stratagems inspire fear in even your teammates.
>>507872575
>>507872442Yeah, i could see them waiting for the anniversary, it's not THAT far
Make sure to use the orbital gas strikes and gas grenades against the harvesters for the most efficient way to kill them
Errmmm. Bros, where are my major order reward medals??
>>507872575That's only 58 Harvesters per helldiver. Rounding up, that's 10 Harvesters a day per diver. That doesn't seem totally unachievable.
The arc thrower and flamethrower are both directly buffed by ship modules so I refuse to use them until I get the upgrades
>>507872884Its not instant, wait a bit. I got mine already.
Using Siege Ready with the Halt is basically cheating.Let me introduce you autists to the Halt. First off, rebind your keys. Holding R to open a weapon wheel and click left/right to switch ammo types is lazy Swedish dev design. Fix that bullshit by binding ammo switching to a single button.>your point, nigger faggot?By doing this, you shave off the time spent fumbling with the wheel—time that could be spent swapping ammo, reloading, and shooting. Also you can’t swap ammo types mid-reload, keep that that in mind. The Halt reloads one shell at a time, meaning you can keep shooting as long as you’ve got shells on hand by smashing R between shots. The thing is that you reload slower than you fire, so you have to pace your firing with reloading.Now, enter Siege Ready armor. It reduces reload speed by 30% and boosts your ammo reserves by 20%. All that reload juggling? Tossed into a septic tank and lit on fire. Faster reloads mean faster ammo swaps and less downtime, letting you unload on enemies with the full brunt of the fire rate. Anything that doesn’t die in one shot? Hit it with a stun, reload, and swap back to flechettes(fuck off revolver or some other myriad of stratashit) to finish the job. I’ll be honest this doesn't work against bots. They hang back and shoot from range. But for bugs and squids? Godsend, since their chaff-to-medium units rely on melee and are always in breathing distance (ignore flygots). Against those two factions, this is the best gun hands down. Ignore crossbow and purifier plz. Also it makes consolecucks seethe.
>>507873153>Fix that bullshit by binding ammo switching to a single button.Which Combat Keyboard bind is this?
>>507873629open weapon wheel and weapon swap(i dont recall). bind the two to one button
>>507870950I fell off at the starttechnically yes but i never got to use it
>>5078731531. It's shit2. Your keybinds are shit, there's a better way3. It's shit. Seriously. Just kill things, what are you stunning them for?
>>507873965Seems fun, although I'm just trying having weapon wheel and switch ammo type set to "Press R." So with the new reload speed boost it practically loads itself after each shot. Difficult to tell what ammo type is selected though.
>>507873153Man, the gymnastics ya'll go through when you could just plug a seer between the eyes with the crossbow...
>>507873153The sad reality is : Killing things is 99% of the time better than stunning them or any other gay shit like that. I'd like it to not be true, but it is. Just like smoke, while in theory good, is a wasted slot. If you're not killing, you're wasting your time.
I don't have Steeled Veterans, Freedom's Flame, Chemical Agents, Truth Enforcers, or Polar Patriots. I primarily use the sickle, but surely there's a better gun in one of these. I really like the large amounts of bullets I can throw out with the sickle, and not having to reload, but i wanna branch out and try new stuff. Any ideas?
>>507874780I like it against brood commanders and stalkers. Stops commanders from trundling off and allows for easy headshots on stalkers.Very ammo efficient.Squidders aren't so tough after getting a headache, so that's a plus.
>>507874780What kind of retard take is that. No one is stunning things because they want to kill them later, they are stunning them so that they hold the fuck still and can be quickly magdumped in a weakpoint by other divers or a support weapon.
>>507875069Just don't miss
>>507874780>>507874306Oh my god, the flechette kills all chaff in one shot. Plus it pens and hits the ones in the back. Do you tards seriously waste stuns on chaff before shooting flechettes? It’s a shotgun get up close. You only stun the shit that doesn’t get one-tapped.
>>507875069You don't need to stun them for that. Next thing you're gonna tell me you use orbital EMS.
>>507874780Yeah bro just kill that 100 Berserker rape line coming for your asshole.
>>507874931Polar patriots has the purifier which is essentially a stronger plasma punisher/scorcher hybrid. It does a fantastic job clearing chaff with its charged shot. It's probably the best weapon out of the warbonds you mentioned. SV and FF have the breaker incendiary and the cookout which are also good.
>>507875545up, right, right, toss.
>>507873153>>507875014>>507875069>>507875502>>507875545Ok this thread is full of sub level 50 shitters, my bad.
>>507865962Where can I find footage of John Helldiver in action?
>>507874375You can do the same thing with the senator. Your point, nigger faggot?
>afraid to lock SC gains behind higher difficulties and successful extractions because he's afraid of reddit controversy>afraid to have enemies that can kill players again because reddit will explode>afraid to fix empty extractions because every time reddit sees a single patrol near them they threaten to bomb Arrowhead HQ
>>507874931steeled veterans has fire shotgun and revolver, both of which are excellentflame, chemical and enforcers are all bad to mid, polar patriots has good but niche stuff
>>507872182
>>507875545Shoot while running backwards, they're dumb and weak as fuck nowadays
>>507875525>>507875502>>507875778
>>507875545>oh no the nerfed berserkers are coming from me, help me Pilestedt !
Loadouts when?
>>507876302You don't know the meaning of that picture, do you ?
>>507876302What does sour grapes have to do with those comments
>>507876514not gonna spell it out for you, poorfag.
I've officially beaten the game... every single warbond finished, all stratagems bought and every ship module unlocked. Level 96 too but rank is kind of useless in this game
>>507876798>beaten the game>Level 96Nope!
>>507870723These are great, keep it up anon!
>>507876414>Machine gun>Jump pack>Gatling turret>Hmg emplacement.Great for squidd
>>507876642I own every single piece of gear in this gear. Everything. Fomo, warbond, store, you name it. Try again.
>>507863236Quiet lil gayboi
>>507870623because the snoy faggots were such colossal filthy fucking kikes ps2 basically has not a single iconic weapon. there is the tr minigun and that stupid guided rocket launcher that stood out for a second or two, rest of the guns are a completely unremarkable grey mess of currency sink slop.
>>507876924yogurt armor
>>507876924and you still whine that the toys aren't good enough. faggots like you are why they make the game easy. The Halt is a good gun that is in a very good niche, and you would cry it was useless because you're too stupid to use it correctly.
>niggers trying to hype of the shitty halt with stupid rebind tech to be semi good>arc thrower and blitzer exist
>>507877369Anything else you wanna see ?>>507877485I never said that. I just said that objectively, killing shit > stun fuckery. I still use whatever gun i want to have fun, but lets not pretend the Halt is anything special.
>priority alert>the Jerma system
What am I in for
>>507877720Fun. One of my favorite weapons.
>>507877720Genuinely one of the best guns
>>507877720legally distinct boltgun
>>507876414never ever
>bots>solved by a human sized rock and a Railgunwhen is the assault strider coming againthe absolute state of tin cans right now
>>507877917There's a mod to change that !
>>507877937Oh thats what he meant
>>507877940galactic slingshot is only for the truest of helldivers>>507878081sweet
>>507877720Bad ergonomics. Low bullet velocity. Get used to it and it's going to be one of the best weapons. Or use the DCS
Is the railgun good?
>>507877597>lets not pretend the Halt is anything special.>Medium pen primary, on a spread shotgun, with the alt-ability to stun anything below ultra heavies for 5 seconds from 50m+
>>507877940>assault striderFuck I need this
>caught the ship master huming the super earth anthemDamn she's just like me
>>507876302Anon, I get it. "You're making excuses for something that is unnecessary or inferior." But I'm not. This gun has a skill ceiling that hasn't been fully exploited.
>>507878261Shittier AMR with annoying charge-up single shot bad ammo economy. Yes it's good, just shoot at weakspots like you should be doing with any other weapon
>>507878261no. you use up half your ammo to kill a patrol and that's only if you have perfect aim
>>507878452AMR can't oneclap gunships and hulks
Whats a good couple of primaries for the squids if i'm trying to run around as a scout doing side objectives while the rest of the group is doing the main objective
>>507878479>use your support weapon on random patrolsStop it. Not necessary. You've got a primary.
The halt just isn't NEEDED in current meta. You don't NEED to stun shit anymore since the balance changes. You can handle mostly everything with raw firepower. This is the point.You can do cool tricks with it, and it's a potent weapon, yeah.
>>507878583energy weapons are super good against squiggersscorcher, purifier, blitzer being my favorites
>>507878510It can kill them as fast or faster than the RG, you start shooting the RG the moment you start charging it up, you know?
>>507878583PurifierBreaker incendiaryPunisher plas
>>507878583Lib Pen, Reprimand, crossbow (just pair with the redeemer), purifier. Oh and if you take the gun dog now you have a buddy covering 360.
>>507878583Breaker inc or SaP
>>507877940what does railgun do that AMR can't? genuinely curious
>>507878741I'm using taking a jetpack to move even faster and disengage if I have to
>>507877720misery when aiming for moving targets
>>507878843Sure. Also incendiary nades. They cull voteless hordes fast and the impact is enough to kill their tesla towers.
>>5078788243rd person reticle
>>507878958my monitor does that :)
Is the Adjuicator not good for squids? It just seems like a more long range Reprimand
>>507878824One tap hulks
>>507879004It's fine but I just prefer the lib pen. Nice scope + easy recoil and plenty of bullets means lots of headshots.
>>507878583almost anything really... but liberator pen is a good option if you're a noob. Scythe and basic liberator do fine as well
>>507879009AMR two taps them probably just as fast as the RG one taps them though
>>507879004It's good for squid body shots. Reprimand is also good for that. Adjudicator is overall better i would say.
>>507878958Man they unfucked that for the HMG, but people never bitched (enough) to make them undo it on the AMR. Shame, its annoying to use my monitor's crosshair for that.
>>507879212iktfin my opinion AMR also needs a bigger mag and less recoil
>>507879158Scythe does not feel good against overseers. I veto that one. It really needs solid weak points to excel and the overseer head is a bad target with it's armor value.
>>507878824instagib bunker/fortress turrets
>>507879263recoil is fine but a couple more rounds in the mag would be good
Now what about harvesters though? Commando, Railgun or Anti Material rifle?I can't bring a support weapon backpack
>>507879428thermites
>>507878824Can destroy fabs if you're willing to waste ammo and timeCan destroy Factory Strider turrets
>>507879428Anti-Material Id say, though Id always recommend the MG
>>507879428MMGIt's the answer to everything on squids right now. Kills overseers, harvesters, observers, and voteless well.
>>507878824destroys the cannons on Factory Striders
>>507879428HMG
>>507879428AMRSure the HMG and MMG can technically kill them but good luck having them sit still while you can just sit still and hose down them comfy like. Meanwhile AMR slams down shields and delivers damage directly to the weak points you want to hit.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244550224713/76561198043448892d10 lobby decides
>>507876323>slow>low hp>no armor>damage? I dunno they never hit youWhat's even the point of berserkers anymore
>>507879603>>507879703Which way gunner man
>>507879428
>>507879428Why not all 3 (8 with QC, HMG, LC, MMG, EATs)Why just use only one weapon? You're not playing the full game
>>507879887the most stylish solver of tall problems
>>507879810>damage? I dunno they never hit youThe damage boost means they slice you in two hits, even with default medium armor. So way way more damage and a single double swipe will kill. And God forbid they hit your head. But they are indeed not durable enough for it to matter, it does mean a stealth berserker can actually kill you though.
>>507879810At least i'm not the only one who thinks the nerf was undeserved. The only way they could have a chance to hit you was because they could tank some damage. Now they're just sad.
>>507879887Why waste a stratagem slot on that when they're just laying around everywhere in the city maps
>>507879794>failed to join
>>507879946He's crafting THE loadout. Not a loadout, he's looking for the peak one.
Why do the squids hate my freedom?
>>507879794full
D10 lobby. Bugs.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244551041649/76561198120804312
>>507880138>Why waste a strategem slot on 80 EAT on demand when 4 are laying scattered around the city maps
>>507880307We kinda shat on them 100 years ago and stole their technology or something. I don't really believe it tho.
>>507870723Aw come on. How can you do that to this cute fella?
>>507880138to have more
>>507880307They're esoteric lovecraftian entities from beyond the stars. They have no concept of (managed) DEMOCRACY. So, they must be destroyed.
>>507880101the berserker nerf being undeserved isn't even an opinion>bots are countered by cover>here's an enemy that will flush you out of it unless the team focuses them down>NOOOOOO THEY TAKE TOO MUCH FIREPOWER TO KILL IF YOU IGNORE THEM YOU GET PUSHED OUT OF COVER AND KILLED BY THE RANGED UNITS>yeah that's the entire design philosophy behind th->NOOOOO NERF THEM NERF THEM I NEED TO BE ABLE TO KILL THEM IN ONE BULLET NERF NOW NOW NOW
>join mission>host is waiting with the hug emote>leavestop being creepy
I will defend my shotgun, and I will die a martyr. I die dreaming of a future where every lobby uses the Halt.
>juggling Arty Shells preparing to load the cannon>retard squad mate roles up and starts filling it up with other random shells>type in chat tell him to stop cause theres a nuke>fills up cannon anyway with a bunch of smokes insteadWas I in the wrong for executing him on the spot and leaving?
>>507880803I know a few raging faggots who actually complained about that. But they were shitters who complained about mostly everything, desu. Still, they exist.
>>507880872hell no, it's bad behavior
>>507880803you could already kill them in a single bullet, you aren't a shitter riiiiiiiiiiiight?
>>507880840holy based Halt user
>>5078803942/4. Come and chill anons.
>>507881090>easy faction just got even easierzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>bugs
>bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244537314561/76561197986211529D10 squids, 2/4
>squids
Pill me on this
>>507881561Was shit, now lit
>>507881452full
>>507881561double its mag to compete with fire breaker
>>507881561>I'm... I'm... MAGDOOOOOOOMPING
>>507881561Handles well, large mag, fast firing rate, low recoil, excellent pellet spread. Very fun and great against bugs and illuminati
>>507881664wait seriously? I'm a retooner so I have haven't kept up on how they un-Alexis'd the weapons, how does it fare now?
>>5078803943/4.
>>507881265damn communists trying to steal my freedom
>>507881561I love mag dumping chaff with this.
>>507878583You basically want something that can take down Voteless hordes while also holding its own against Overseers, so your options are pretty diverse. Torcher and Cookout are very good at chaff clearing, and Torcher can also melt staff Overseers pretty good (range is limited but that's not a massive hindrance in cities). You still need to be able to kill Elevated Overseers and Watchers though, the latter especially if you don't want reinforcement calldowns, so something like a Laser Cannon or Wasp. You also want stratagems that suit mobility and hit-and-run, MG Sentry is pretty disposable due to low cooldown and Gas Strike can disrupt chases long enough for you to escape. You also want something to kill Tesla Towers and blow up Warp Ships, so Grenade Pistol serves this purpose super well.
>have faction where waves are called in by a fragile, floating bitch with a flashlight and nobody else>surely this would encourage players to prioritize taking them out>nobody else in the lobby fucking touches them>every single time a wave ends I hear another BOOWEEEEF and it all starts over again
I would love to use a tech gun like Halt if we had real keyboard controls and firing types were freely hotkeyable.
>>507879428Machine guns have enough DPS to melt their shields, HMG can also chip and crack the torso with direct fire to get a kill.Laser Cannon can melt pieces off of the Harvester when its shield is down but it's not good at breaking the shield.Wasp can break the shield in two or three missiles but isn't reliable at finishing the job.I like using the Torcher.
>>507881818It mulches crowds because you magdump a mag into it and the spread makes sure you hit everyonesolo target are a bit less efficient, as you waste a bit of each shot firepower since the horizontal spread is so big.Just>group enemies>magdump until everyone is dead>reloadIt does what it is supposed to now, it is nothing special but a lot of ammo and a lot of firerateI love the design of the weapon and im sad i cannot take it everywhere with me
>>507882268Oh, I actually forgot about the Reprimand, it's really good at killing anything smaller than a Harvester because it's rapid fire, armor pen and huge damage per round, just make sure to bring Siege Ready. Same for Halt, it has stopping power and armor pen and the stun rounds can stop Elevated Overseers and Watchers in their tracks.
>>507882339I'm pretty sure those things are bugged and can can see you thru buildings. I've been in a bunch of games where we'll just be moving thru the city, we'll see a purple glow like 2 blocks away behind a building and see flares being launched.
>>507882339I let those lil dudes live, squids need all the help they can get. their tickle zaps are cute too.
>>507882556>chip and crack the torso with direct fire to get a kill.Aim for the first leg segment. It has medium armour, no extra plates, and will instakill the harvester when it breaks. In my opinion the machine guns are extremely good support weapons. All are an easy A tier in their respective fronts: bots = heavy, bugs = medium, squids = light.>>507879428Commando is the go-to because it one-shots. Anything that you can reliably hit the first leg segment is good.
>>507882339those little shits are very very fucked, aside from sometimes just not rendering the light they love to hide behind city geometry as well as completely randomly following terrain elevation multiplied by the current amount of surstromming cans left open in the dev studio.that they aggro through walls is their best feature.
I I downloaded 2 audio mods from nexus but I kept losing connection to games. I know it was an issue but wanted to make sure. So I deleted the files from the game directory. Now the sounds still play but only for .5 seconds and cut out. I deleted the whole game and redownloaded but still have the partial mods in there. Any trick to removing them for good? I’m assuming they got updated to a cloud.
>>507883414Yeah, but that's no fun, especially at longer ranges. I like sighting down a Harvester from the other side of the city and just tapping it down with the HMG. It's satisfying seeing bits and pieces of it explode and fall off of the main body before it finally succumbs.
>>507883839For a cross-map fuck you I'll stick with the EAT, thanks.
>>507883817try deleting everything in the game folder, then uninstalling, then validating?
>>507877572NTA, but your argument is weak because>arc thrower needs to be charged up>blitzer has short range>both get outranged by the halt which can stun to up 140m>they also have issues with corpses piling up, and most automaton and illuminate corpses don't blow up like bugsWith that said, I almost never use the halt (even if I have 40+ hours on it because I always extensively try out weapons before forming an opinion on them).Nor the arc thrower of blitzer (60+ hours on them), all 3 are bad and outclassed by other weapons.
>>507883817Retard
I'm already bored of squids. Bring out their full roster, you swedish cowards.
>Want to use the SC Arrow Pointer mod but after doing some research it's apparently a bannable offense, perma-bannable
>>507885679No it's not, stop spreading misinformation you seething brainlet
>>507885679
>>507885287I prefer the cookout. The knockback is so good and doesn't fall off with range somehow.
Nice diving lads, was fun eradicating squids with you lot.
Has there been anything new since the Illuminate update?
I have never seen anyone use the ballistic shield
>>507887719yes they added the first part of a killzone crossover and the community raged so hard over the pricing that they released the second half for free
>>507887787the ballistic shield does not exist.
>>507887787You haven't seen me then
>almost 50 million voteless killed in less than 3 hoursjesus christ
>>507887982Apparently not. What do you do with the ballistic shield?
>>507887787I enjoy using it with the Crossbow on bots.>>507888165There's a couple hundreds of those per mission, anon.
>>507888165And yet there are those among us that believe a bunch of germans couldn't do 6 million in ten years
>>507887787I prefer to use the directional energy shield with my praetorian build but maybe I should switch to ballistic...
>>507888238Oh I kinda assumed you could only use pistols with it?
>>507888389You can use any one-handed weapons with it. The Crossbow and SMGs are one-handed.
>>507888389Any one handed weaponCrossbow, SMGs (except the reprimand), all secondaries.
>>507888226Block bot bullets, cuck Heavy Devastators, Shredders, Factory Striders chinguns
>>507888530Worth noting the Reprimand is two-handed (what the fuck, swedes) despite being a SMG and won't work with the Ballistic Shield
>>507870723Poor scav...
>>507888530>>507888575>>507888620great to know boys, thanks. I'm guessing its useless to bring it on bug dives
>>507888620>i eat rockets for breakfast, lunch and dinner. mmm yum
>>507888165>halfway through mo>3 hoursHave AH fucked up the count again?
>>507888865I don't recall if it blocks melee, but you don't really want to be there in the first place against bugsIt's fun against bots, I used it extensively back when it was kinda suboptimal.It block everything up to rockets, which ragdoll you. I don't recall if it lowers the damage, and still breaks.You absolutely bully heavy devastators with it though, as their ONE attack which absolutely destroy you is completely denied by the shield
>>507889096The 7 million harvesters will take much longer I think
>>507889096you'd think with a specific number like 115 instead of a round 100 they were predicting with collected player data how much players would kill in a week. who fucking knows with swedes.
>>507889290The numbers for it just aren't adding up.
>>507889290What is the tripod seed trigger? Did a few d10 with like 2 of them then 9 at extraction
>>507888873It completely negates turret laser damage too, immediately breaks afterwards though
>finally liberate Shelt after a week long liberation effort>Lesath attacked and recaptured by botsIs it THAT necessary for the bots to have this many planets?
>>507870723Awww, poor thing.
>>507889714the analysts are still gathering data, Super Earth thanks you for your Democratic Patience
>>507889960shelt was a mistake, we'll make sure no other bot planet gets liberated again so they'll get to super earth already
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244557373830/76561197986211529Can't sleep so total squid death continues.>Captcha: AAYAA
>>5078902202/4, D10 squids
>>507890220>>5078905063/4
Well they've done it again. Everyone is waiting for the illuminate to come out of the wormhole, and they've just achieved a huge resurgent player count right after Christmas, so what do they do? a fucking filler MO for a week.I guess I'll order another serve of squid copium: I'm sure they'll release the rest of the roster on the 3rd of Jan. Don't get me started on the gloom.
>>507889675It looks like it'll be fine, we've reached about 10% of the kill requirement in less than 4 hours, at this rate we'll probably cross the 50% threshold at the end of the first day and then tick that box by the end of the second (it's a weekend, plus Christmas holidays). The real "challenge" will be Joel giving us enough invasions to win.
>>507890220>>507890506>>507890945full
>>507873153Based smart halt user. Maybe I'll get the halt warbond next.
>>507891034On one hand i get that, on the other hand i think they should have a christmas vacation.It's more an issue of "we made a big update of our live action game that we railroad and keep pushing in directions before a big vacation"Swedesih 6 months of vacation meme aside, it's just yet again poor timing and drip feeding.
>>507878081We need a mod that makes all the enemies into thicc waifus. Including the scavengers. Especially the Scavengers.If the Automaton strider and tank don't have thunder thighs and dumpies, I will be the mad.
Sure is a lot of gymnastics in this thread when you can just Stalwart on max RPM>Muh HeaviesSecondary or a Rover.
>>507891683Who are you quoting ?
>>507891761>Doesn't understand greentext
>>507891761Based on my cock retard
>>507891683how does a rover remotely help you in taking out a heavy unit like a hulk
>>507891683I think im just gonna use the explosive crossbow Yeah I know mg troons like to switch rpm like there genders but.. im not a troon so.
>>507891867>I use funny meme arrows because i cannot make a pointI can do it too>>507892083What ?
>sleepy as fuck>suddenly millions of lobbies gets postedwhy you niggas do this to me?
>Low ROF>Extreme cold>Prone>Fortified>First persontime to laser
PCGamer's gun of the year is AC, in case you were wondering what the Game Journo's Choice(TM) is.I know what I'm bringing to MY dives. What about you?
>>507892141It's over
>>507892683that might have been true before the 60 day patch. AC is kinda clunky these days, and armor chickens have cucked it for a long while.
>>507875891SO FUCKING BASEDthanks drawbro
>>507892683ACfags in shambles
>Falseflagging AMRtranny
>>507892683What i feel like using. AC is nice but i feel like it doesnt hit like it used to. I struggle to two tap Hulks, dunno if it's a genuine skill issue or they changed something about accuracy/sway/ergonomics/hulk movement.At least all support weapons are usable, so i just kinda randomize based on what i want to play.
>>507892683ACucks coping inbound
>>507892683>taking opinions from a game journalistNope, straight to the surstromming gas chamber with you.
>>507892683Does this mean it's a game journo crutch gun now?If I'm being honest the AMR vs AC rivalry is nothing but retarded faggotry.
AIIEEEEE my reddit cannon turned into PCGamer® gigashitter cannon
>>507891510I agree somewhat. The one Christian who works at arrowhead is probably having a great Christmas. But jokes aside: Can't they dripfeed from a stock of content? Can't they prepare updates in advance so that when they go on their Swedish hibernation, they have stuff set to roll out every month or so? Only on Swedish games do I get the feeling that the content is being squeezed out like blood from a stone.
>4 hours into a 7 day MO>55% completion on obj1 >10% completion on obj2i guess it's just another "defend 6 times" order
>>507879813Whichever one you enjoy moreMMG is better at chaff clear, and has better ergo/recoilHMG is big dick damage, and better for harvesters and overseers as long as you can hit your shotsPro tip, just press Z and the weapons become 8x better
Stealthniggers are going in full force today, sorry troons, sniping hulks from 200m away out of their aggro range so they don't even react to being shot IS the literal definition of crutch, flying away with the jetpack the moment you get spotted instead of stand your ground and fight like a man IS the literal definition of crutch. Sorry trannies but the AMR will forever remains a shitter cope support weapons for retards who finds the AC to be "too hard to use due to the slow drag and stationary reload". Now you may cope.
>>507893272I think they fucked themselves trying to do monthly warbond, because that meant monthly content, which isnt easyThey surely have premade stuff they can send, but as the killzone bullshit and sudden Illuminate drop has shown, they are kinda making shit up on the fly for reasons we don't always understand.The way content drops feels kinda... random, even with the story beats, even with the MO and lore text breadcrumbs>stuff escalates>filler>escalates again>nothingburger>suddenly somethingIt's weird and very offputting, because you will put your money on "nothing ever happens" and win 9/10, only to be caught by surprise with no buildup to the actual update.Yeah the shadow drop of the illuminates was good despite their lack of punch, but fuck man, was it so hard to build up to it ?
>>507893798$.001 have been deposited into your account for your selection of the PCGAMER's CHOICE(TM) support weapon.
>Just a few more hours and the superstore rotation goes back to normalFucking FINALLY
>>507892683>>507893916I've never had a stance on the retard rivalry but I'm gonna start using this as shitposting fuel.
>>507893916>already copingconcession accepted, it's always funny seeing AMRshitters got exposed and their only cope is "no u". Now start coping by posting the raw damage between the AC and AMR and completely ignore the durable damage part :)
>>507893798Dumb frog
>>507894036What's even supposed to be next? Now that I have all my warbonds I have a little pile of SCs that has nothing to do but grow until I find the few superstore armors I don't already own.Not buying the plastic chud set because I think it looks like ass.
>>507894238Idk, maybe the baton comes back, but I just want the rotations to start again so I can get the Jaguar armor
gun that i have to type in nautical coordinates to shoot? the halt isn't doing it for me anymore
>>507893286It's hard to make a "kill X enemies" MO anything more or less than "challenging" because a lot of it depends purely on how many active players there are, which changes from day to day. Even after fixing the "every player gets counted for the match total" bug.
>>507893272>>507893851They also can't seem to be able to iterate on previous HD1 content at allWe barely have seen bits of previous content, whether weapons or stratagems. There's so much that's "missing" or has been changed for incomprehensible reasons, like the stalwart being a support weapon now, the actual liberator variants missing completely (Patriot, Liberator, Justice). we get things that look the part, but arent it, like the viper bond short liberator that's not really the Patriot. If it was, why change the name of it into something unrecognisable ?
the map had 3 sam sites all in the city
>AC vs AMR war is ended by game journo
>blast hulk, devs, chickens and chaffbots from 200m away>was never gonna clear that PoI>those enemies were zero threat >the bots wouldn't have moved or reacted to nearby fighting>the PoI guards will respawn eventuallyIt's not about the yellow numbers, its about the satisfying crunch.
>>507894649Because who tf cares besides the 15 autists that actually played the first game?
>>507894518whatthe SPEAR and WASP are the biggest chores to shoot if you want a chore gunif you want a chore primary, the new sniper rifle is a pain in the ass
>>507894771I care.
>>507894771Because it's easy content that's pre-established and is missing FOR SOME REASON.
>>507894036I'm a christmas babby what are the essentials>stun baton>Light Gunner>Enforcer>Jaguarwhat else
>>507893851>but fuck man, was it so hard to build up to it ?An idea is forming in my mind, based on workplaces I've had in the past. Arrowhead output feels like what happens when you have a very ineffective boss. You know roughly what your job is, you clock in, and go home having done something, but because the boss isn't coordinating work, there's nobody at the wheel. Arrowhead employees probably do end up getting good stuff done. But without the boss being a little bit mean (anathema to Swedes) and telling them to stop doing this or that and forcing them to work towards a certain goal at this time, they will continue to drop whatever shit accidentally gets made. I doubt they even use GANTT charts or have team leads supervising whatever.I'm very pessimistic, but years of fatshark (forgive me for uttering that name) have broken me. And the stuff I describe does suck for the workers, it's horrible but it does get things done.
>>507894771Me
>>507894951Butcher is heavy medic armorVery tankyEnforcer and exterminator are fortified mediumFortified commando is extra padding heavyHighest armor rating in the gameEradicator is light fortified armor
>>507894951the chud armour
>>507895120I'm so glad I've never been invested in a fatshark gameI've played them with friends, but I've never cared beyond that, and I feel like its for the better
>>507895120I play darktideI know what you mean.I also think they lost the direction helldivers 1 had, when they "scaled it up" for the second game. The bones are here, but it looks different, not always in a good way.>old good new badIs not what i'm trying to get at here.Ultimately, we just don't know what goes inside Arrowhead. Maybe it's Sony fucking up things. Maybe it's the new CEO. Maybe Helldivers and Magicka were lightning in a bottle. Maybe Arrowhead doesnt understand how changing the game has changed the way players interact with it. Maybe it's all part of Pilestedt's plan and we're all dancing in his palm.We just don't know and the random bits we get are puzzling because from our PoV it's obvious or grating. How could they just ignore X or not plan for Y, etc.
>>507879813MMG for bugs/squidsHMG for bots.
Diff 10 squids only ever goes one of two ways >everyone preforms perfectly, and the entire mission goes off without a hitch>you get stuck with 3 escaped mental patients who all scatter as far away from one another as possible and then die repeatedly from trying to fist fight the 500 harvesters that now populate the map thanks to themWhy is it like this, there is absolutely no in-between
HMGbros...I've seen the light>tfw mowing down 3 hulks in succession>tfw listening to their heads explode one after the other
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244557373830/76561197986211529D10 total squid death, 2/4
>guys it's NOT boring it's SO FUN to shoot down SAUCERS every SECOND and do NOTHING ELSE
>>507896476full
>>507896523>Spanishnon white opinion detected.
If they add in more HD1 stuff I hope it's another base warbondThrow new players a bone
>>507895785The inner workings of Swedish game development companies are truly mysterious. One thing we can all count on though, is that they will fuck up their game and go on their extended vacation (all while disregarding the agonized screaming of the playerbase.)Some attempts to translate HD1 into 3d yielded weird results. Like the TTK in HD1 couldn't be replicated thanks to the distances we engage enemies at now. So they lowered the damage of weapons to make the enemies not get picked off before they became a threat. In HD1 patrols not only were a lot closer before you could see them, but also their spawning being a more chaotic was ok. Now it's very annoying to do a double take and see a patrol spawn right behind you. The dropships/bug hole idea is excellent for 2 though.
is it worth it?
>>507896801The best thing to do would be to make each page supplementary to all other warbonds. One page would have new fire gear, the next would have new energy gear, and so on and so forth
>>507897007>$16 for an SMG and stratheroif you like the not-bizon it's worth it
>>507896782That's portuguese, friend
>>507897102I don't care what flavor of mexican you speak
>>507896370The missing ingredient in the latter case is teamwork.
>>507897102that's the same thing
Hey anons does anyone else's CPU run really hot when playing the game? Luke high 85 Celsius? I Don't think it's normal UT I've tried everything to fix it with no luck
>>507897218I'm pretty sure this game is a CPU hog.
>>507897153>>507897194I really don't like mutts getting uppity about Iberians. It's not like Americans are anything more than retarded brits.
>>507897378I'm not american, and don't pretend your not Brazilian
>>507897449his brazilian nuts
>>507896451Congrats on gitting gud
>>507897449I hope you're not Australian (Australian hours?) pretending to be American.
>>507897007You get the best armor in the game, so yeah it's worth it.
>Someone puts dead sprint into there loadoutFor what purpose?
>>507897007Steeled Veterans is a very good warbond, still in the top tier after all these months.The armor isn't unique besides appearance, fashionable but ultimately not something you wear except because you want to.The jukebox game is okay, something to do to kill time but that's it.The title is just a title, it's meh.The K***ht SMG is really good, top tier against two of the three factions.
>>507897575>best armor in the game>that you'll get twice in the free warbondidgi
>>507897627It's unironically superior to Stamina Enhancement but most players aren't ready to have that conversation yet.
>>507897627You run for much longer than Stamina Enhancement as long as you also take Vitality Enhancement
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244564029141/76561198451244720farmdiving
>>507881073then they didn't need a nerf glad you agree *brofists and upvotes you*
>>507897627That's a kick from me.
what was the reward from the christmas MO?
>burgers and yuropoors all went to sleep>brown hours officially started>SC farm lobbies starts popping up
>been having a blast with the Torcher against squids>decide to try out the Flamethrower stratagem because why not>it's actually decent at street fighting because the urban environment funnels everything to youThing still kind of sucks since it handles like a pig, but charging into a Harvester's shield bubble and melting it from inside is still damn fun.
Did gas mines get added to the stratagems yet
>>507898382100 Warbond medals
>>507898508No unfortunately
>>507897627dead sprint replaces hellpod space opt. you can just resupply in the beginning
>>507898402It's burger hours right now though>checks America's white statusUmmm, I guess you're not wrong
>>5078983821
>>507898382A free missile/grenade/airburst launcher hybrid and 100 medals
>>507898508No, we still need to complete an MO to unlock them.
>>5078978263/4
>>507897968>brofistjust beat me to death
>no gas orbital barrage>no gas main gun>no gas secondary>no gas eagle bombsI wanna go full GAS
pelican barrel bomb strategem when?
>>507895120I think at this point in development they are sitting on a stockpile of "finished" content and 90% of the dev team is basically in the wind at any given time, either isolated working on future stuff or just out of the loop entirely. With the end result being that there are very few people actually looking at the game we're playing.
Man, I really, *really* do not like the Explosive Crossbow.
>>507882467you can just edit your input settings file to add more keybinds beyond what the UI menu supports. Like I have a bind that opens the wheel and toggles the right option in one button press, but I still have the standard "hold R to open the menu" behavior toohttps://content.thehelldiversgame.com/help/inputs.md
>>507900024then try purifier
can someone tell me what we're supposed to do herepreferably in the next 6 minutes because we are LOST
>>507892683It lost its appeal when it was buffed to pen heavy armour. Can't say I've used it much since then. It lost its nice feedback of an explosion when you hit a critical spot. I'm an MG man now.
>>507900318The black box is greyed out on the map since it's been dropped. It's to the east of A1 S2 and D3. Bring that to the upload point and slot it in.
oh yeah, this is peak
>>507881664>>507881764Wait does that mean this isn't shit anymore either?
>>507900492i cant find it man.....
>>507900489>it was buffed to pen heavy armourit was always ap4 retardthey just nerfed hulks to ap4 as a whole
Conduit armor is the best armor against squids because it makes you immune to the two things that can actually kill you
>>507900687hard disagree
>>507900873It should blink and glow yellow like a big dropped sampleAlternatively, apparently it can drop through the map and become unrecoverable, I've been in lobbies like that beforeHope you're not fucked
>>507901081>conduit armor>jetpack>flamethrower
>>507901253I think it was bugged. I swear I watched my teammates haul it all the way to the upload site, but then next thing i know it's back at the original position and we cant find it. We ended up running out of time and had to extract without completing the objective... Oh well, at least we got some samples out of it. The host of the lobby, who was like level 150, quit right at the start so I wonder if he realized it was bugged immediately?
>>507901081I've come to like engineering kit because it lets me gas the voteless even more.
Man I would love a Lap 2 mod. Activate the extraction terminal and it just immediately reactivates all objectives and you have to do it again with the post-main objective increased spawns in the time remaining. Bonus points for increasing the spawns by the same rate as the main objective gets its second completion. Then Lap 3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Tj15iSHbM
I'm only level 20 yet I die for less and get more kills than most level 75-150 playersWhat's up with that? Am I a sweat in a casual's game?
>>507901612NTA but I was doing a solo mission yesterday and using the passenger > driver trick with the car to drive with the black box. Had to turn around a few times when I noticed it had somehow warped out of my possession and was laying on the ground in random spots along the way. Not sure if these are related issues but it feels like there's something fucked with the black box.
>Jetpack tripping>Hopping out of slow rolling car and losing 90% of HPArrowtip pls fix ty
Hey bros, returning player after 6 months hiatus, I see there's a ton of new content + I heard there's been some balance changesI really liked assault rifles, what's the best one right now? Is it still the base Liberator?
>>507901856Helldivers are supposed to die every 2 minutes on average, you're not RPing.
>>507901856Anybody can get to high levels of they play enough. Also they made the game super easy within the last few months so that any retard with a half functioning brain can play well.
>>507902126Can't go wrong with the Lib Pen.
>>507846206I play on PC with a controller on D10
>>507902021>NTA but I was doing a solo mission yesterday and using the passenger > driver trick with the car to drive with the black box. Had to turn around a few times when I noticed it had somehow warped out of my possession and was laying on the ground in random spots along the way.Ah that sounds like what happened to us. My teammates were hauling it using the car.
>he isn't a ChuddiverPlease defend your choices
>>507902126Bugs: TenderiserBots: Lib PenSquids: Tenderiser
>>507901856how many kills? lemme use my autism powers
>>507902126I'd say tenderizer (polar patriots) or the Stahl Arms rifle (605 SC). The latter's just the liberator with a higher capacity, faster fire rate, and ironsights.
>>507902126Lib Pen, Lib Carbine, and Adjudicator are all good. Usually I stick to lib pen but adjudicator is fun too.
>>507902239Can you aim punch with controller or do you use crutch weapons like xbow/RR
>>507902236Did it get buffed, I remember it(and all the other Liberator sidegrades) were bad because the tradeoff for their gimmicks was nonexistent dps>>507902313What's the Tenderiser?>>507902334>Stahl Arms rifle (605 SC)Is that in a warbond too?
>>507902285Wrong. Billions must dive.
DO NOT SPOON FEED THE RETOOOORNERS, LET THEM FIGURE OUT THINGS FOR THEMSELVES
>>507902646no
>>507902448>Did it get buffed,Yeah. Pretty much all ARs also got a universal buff since you last played I think, in addition to specific buffs.
was there a siege ready armor in the super store? I don't want the new warbond
>>507902756Neat, I remember 90% of the people you'd run into using a certain shotgun
>>507902448>Is that in a warbond too?No, it's in the superstore. For a few more hours.
>>507902792>don't want new warbond why not
>>507902792There was but it was heavy only.
>>507902638that doesn't match
>>507902792>i dont want the new warbondATE is literally the best green in the game though?if you dont care tho, cinderblock is in the rotation. heavy siegeready. there's no medium, and light is exclusive to the warbond
Wow the Illuminate need more enemies. They're put me to sleep tier easy.Here's an idea I just came up with: Abomonations. They got a bunch of a voteless corpses and mashed/sewed 'em together into a giant walking heap and put some squid tech into it. So it charges you like a left 4 dead tank but it also has some sentry guns rigged onto its back. It also has multiple heads so it lacks an easy critical place to shoot it unlike bot hulksOh and it can have a shield generator strapped on it that gives little forcefields to all voteless nearby it. Yeah, that sounds like a real pain in the dick to fightOooh and there could be a version with a tesla thing on it. Actually instead of sentries it just has a bunch of tesla bolts on it, for that frankenstein's monster look. Thoughts?
>>507902792it's just another heavy set im pretty sure. There is no medium armor, just buy the warbond and you'll get the light armor which is objectively the best piece with it.
>>507902885I don't care for the melee weapons or the car skin>>507902894>heavy only gay
>>507902931Too bad. I defended my choices. Now it's time for you to defend your life (you will fail).
these squids are PUTTING UP A FIGHT!!!!!!
How come you don't cycle the bolt on the eruptor before the last shot where does the bullet come from
Super Earth's leaders are Indian as it was stated in the dataming.
>>507903004the illuminate should>turns bugs into voteless and start sending chargers and bile titans after us>team up with the automatons and send hulks and heavy devastators after us
>>507903004based fraken fran fan
>>507902638>his armor clipscouldn't be me
>>507903281the idea of the illuminate being able to reverse engineer bot troops or breed their own bugs could be a neat idea. like imagine being set upon by a horde of blue stalkers while taking rocket fire from a squad of bots at the same time stalkers
>>507903074It has more than that, but sure.
>>507903442Mine is chuddier than yours.
>>507903148>the one shitter who used 9 stims
>>507903560I don't see why the bots wouldn't be able to be mind controlled and if it's true the automatons have human brains then they could be voteless as well, or just side with them to fuck humanity
>>507903896Using lots of stims is the mark of a good player.
>>507903896>using a lot of stims is sign of a shitter rather than a chad that constantly fightingyou retarded?
>S.E.A F artillery >4 explosives and 1 mini nukewhat order do you load the nuke in
>>507904239Most powerful shells go in first, least powerful ones last.
>>507904239first
>>507897826sc 3/4
>>507904239nukes always first, it's rare i see people actually use up all shells
>>507904239say "nuke roulette" in chat and put it in randomly for fun
room doko
imagine using the AMR or AC lmfao
>>507904239None because it is a shitter time wasting side objective that doesn’t even get used 70% of the time and takes 5 fucking minutes to complete.
>>507904726im almost certain the rivalry is a total meme because it's rare to see more than one AMR in an hdg lobby and ACs dont even show up in hdg lobbies
>>507904517i would host if my internet wasnt shit
wait a fuckin second... illuminate creek?!
OKAY /HDG/FAILURE TO EXTRACT: BADGE OF HONOR OR MARK OF SHAME?
>>507905326Nah it's not the same tileset
>>507905601Mark of shame obviously unless you were doing the last objective across the map.
>>507905601>failure to extract in order to farm killsshame>failure to extract out of incompetenceshame>failure to extract in order to get 100% map completion or to finish at least 1 more objective (successful)PRIDE>failure to extract in order to get 100% map completion or to finish at least 1 more objective (failure)shame
>>507905601Its so easy to kite in this game if you cant get to the shuttle you are genuinely a shitter
I want to pet a scavenger.That is all.
what comes first? cyberstan or gloom?
>>507905979Sooo true fellow redditchungus! Rock n stone!
>>507906012Squid main force probably
>>507905601I always extract the moment the shuttle lands. I never wait for people to goof off and farm kills. Not there? Your problem.
>>507906117sorry chud you just gto votekicked
>>507906223Not likely since I'm the host.
>>507906117that's how you get domed while sitting in the shuttle
so what are the illuminazi's doing
So how soon do you think they are going to change SC farming?
Lobbies?
I was away for christmas so my lonely faggot friend didn't have to spend his christmas all alone and so I completely missed all the festival of reckoning stuffWhat was Julheim like
>>507906850Honestly if they abolished farming altogether and just gave you SC for completing missions that'd be preferable.Like 10 for completing a D10 mission would at least encourage you to play the game.
God I hope they buff the sniper rifle, I want peak scout kino of just fucking off doing side objectives and popping heads.
>>5078978263/4 sc
>>507907038Wasn't one of the first bot maps on the snow biome?It's pretty funny you do that ridiculous high kick jog down city streets in blizzards.
Wait, the Lib Pen is good now?
>>507907947Always has been
>>507907947It's my go to.
>>507906442Mmm no I don't think it is, it's never happened.
what mods do you use /HDG/?
Resupplies with sentry guns on top are such a pain in the ass, half the time you're the one getting shot by them
>>507908406None because I'm heterosexual and white.
>>507908406>railgunfags
>reinforced in the middle of nowhere by two guys in a car>they immediately speed off to the complete other side of the map>eventually they die>toss the reinforce 100m behind me, back where they dropped me>kickeddon't know what they expected lol
>>507908406>LC spin removedholy fucking faggot
>>507907947All it took was recoil reduction, a 33% damage increase, and a 50% buff to mag size. Who would have thought that just a few small changes would make it not absolute dogshit?
>>507897826>>507907378still open
>>507908632>I really REALLY need a pointless spinning triangle on top of my crosshair!
Give me a comprehensive list of enemies that the Laser Cannon is good against with specific details on why for every faction or you're undemocratic.
>>507908406only the SC mod because I'm not a braindead retard who needs a billion sight mods to not suck ass at the game
>>507908812Yeah cause its cool you fucking pussy
>>507908406you probably don't even use the railgun
D10 Squiggers steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244575068538/76561198101161757
>>507908967>sour grapes for free modsembarrassing!
Got any Crisper bros in this general? I took it for a quick spin today against squids, the ability to instantly set up a wall of fire and create burning ground is actually pretty useful in the streets. You need explosive options for dealing with the spawners, but as a utility tool I'm starting to warm up to it.
Modding your game for an advantage is very Chinese behavior btw.
>>507909294I don't even see the advantage, I'm still going to play significantly better than you even with zero mods.
>>5079091123/4
>>507909384No you wont, silly billy
>There's people unironically using the shitass AC/LC orange niggersightKEK
>>507909180You can wipe out entire hordes with half a canister. You can just one hand the thing and they'll never touch you.
>>507909574Pair it with the MG and you're practically unstoppable
>>507909562Do you mod your guns to have lgbt flags on them too, because you sound gay
>>507909562>unironically using first person in this gameshitter
>>507910416Kinda have to to use the AMR properly
>>507908406abdomera
>>507858715>Normgroids go backNo.my computer couldnt run the game when it came out :(
>>507908960i've been trying it out on bots. it rapes hulks, devastators, armored chicken walkers, and snipes gunships. it fries normal tanks but shredders can turn their turret around faster than you can kill them. shooting the eye of a factory strider or its brain after an anti tank weapon/stratagem has punched a hole into its head will kill it
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244578125032/76561198219510551D10 whatever
>>5079115603/4
>>507908960pops overseer heads great because it has not stagger so flying overseers don't float all over the place and just die isntead
>>5079115602/4
found out that you can use orbital gas strikes to delete squid camps
>>5079115603/4 again
>>507908960its fucking boring, shitposting aside. the laser cannon is hitscan making it good for gunships and flygots. if you can't weakpoints you can't cope with the quake lighting gun. the "gimmick" is to use another laser weapon in conjuction with it. sickle/scythe overheats? switch to laser cannon, it overheats? switch back. infinite ammo. also i won't elaborate on ttk there already exists a spreadsheet for this stuff, "DiverDex". to be brief it rapes quick if you aim for the head, goes for all factions. cept for tanks and elite units.
>>507912189Anything with a DF of 50 can one-tap warp ships through shields. This includes:>Eagle 500 KG>all Orbital Barrrages>Orbital Rail Cannon>Orbital Gas Strike>Orbital Precision Strike
>>507912189>>507912936SEAF shells as well
>>507912189>>507912936And Orbital Laser. Orbital Laser in particular is amazing since it can deal with an entire Heavy Encampment by its own, and is also the only red stratagem that can delete Harvesters without the need to remove their shields first.
>6 hours into the MO>25% complete on HarvestersYou know, we might actually finish this in one day instead of two.
Good primary for mulching lots of devastators?
>>507913496xbow>>5079132236 defenses will be the bottleneck
>>507913496xbow, purifier, scythe if you have good aim
>>507913496dcs and jar are good for tapping dev skulls
>>507913496it's faster to list what guns can't kill loads of devastators:all shotguns (slugger has bad spread even if it is a slug, rest require you to get very close to head shot them)plasma accelerator (not enough ammo)reprimand (terrible spread)there you go, anything not on that list can kill devastators with good aim or with ease even if you don't have good aim
>>507913496Diligencejust learn2aim
>>507911560JOIN! WE ARE HAVING FUN! 3/4
>>507908406I still don't know what specific mod people use for finding SCs and Samples.
>>507915231Failed to join fun
>>507915562add me on discord and i'll send it ;)
>>507916043You NEED to go back
>>507916090oopsie teehee
>>507915724>censored chat
>>507915562shekelvisionhttps://files.catbox.moe/jmob5q.zip
>>507916515There's nothing interesting so I don't bother censoring it when I open the map
>>507915724Is this weapon actually good? I was thinking of using it but it's a backpack using missile launcer with only light armour pierce.
Has anyone else seen a G0? Its a teamate whose always dead but you cant call them in? Theres also a teammate whose name you cant see
>>507916808It's fun to use. It's legit good against bugs. Only thing it can't handle is the Bile Titan so your buddies AT or your red stratagems will need to handle that. It obliterates all other buggies. Chargers are a bit tricky, need to shoot behind them or a bit under them, but deleting entire bug pods and alpha brood commanders feels so good.
>>507915724kind of redundant when gas nades exist
I have 2200 SC, is the gas or truth enforcers war bond worth getting? havent unlocked them yet, i hear the gas grenade is super good
is the kill 7 million harvesters rigged? I never see many in a mission
>>507917256>>507917256>>507917256>>507917256
>>507880138We need more EAT on the ground. Free EATs for everyone. Let them EAT cake. Mandatory EAT ownership.
>>507869321As far as I know, it highlights the POI:s closer but not enough to justify the pick over a mobility booster IMO. The scout armor passive does fuck all except highlights enemy pips.-Andrew
