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>>520601125
I see a nipple...
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We did it bros... We survived for 1000 threads. Cut it close at some points.
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Happy 1000th anons, I fit as much as I could inside the image and even had to leave out some like the Doppel sisters since I couldn't find their PNGs no matter where I looked, but I hope your favorites made it in and that you like it

>>520601418
NO you don't anon.
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A thousand threads of us shitposting at eachother about monstergirls. Quite the accomplishment.
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And here's to 1000 more!
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>>520601125
The thousand-thread reich...
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>>520601757
It looks incredible, thank you anon! Hapy 1000th indeed! I really love these collages so I'm really glad you were able to do another one and especially finish it in time. It's quite nice to see we've gotten this far.
Here's to many more!
and thank you for the very-last-minute request to add in Honey. I've always been fond of her and wanted to have her on the team but never had the chance until recently, and I've come to realize she might honestly not just be my favorite insect girl but one of my favorite non-harpy girls in general. You also don't really appreciate the value of auto-guarding with 1/4 damage until you're doing a run where everyone who goes down is kicked out and she's taking hits that would've killed other teammates eight times over.
Plus she's an integral part of happiness honey and helps take care of Harpy Village since she likes the place; it felt only right for her to get to share in it.
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Wish I had a better image to commemorate 1000 threads edition.

Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf

Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u

The latest, succubus Luka
https://files.catbox.moe/vrrciv.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/unsg07.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/lahgp2.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/onc0vn.jpg

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Past Fem Luka stuff https://catbox.moe/c/16v92b

Congrats on 1000 threads!
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Congratulations on No. 1000!
Eva is lucky. LUCKY...
to be here with you
I miss you
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>>520575792
Thanks. Much appreciated.
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>>520602617
Its no problem at all anon, its a labor of love

>>520603247
Everything okay EVA anon?
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>HOP rather huge
>tits wanted
>>456339045
>without human wife, anon die
>king shiki
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>>520601125
happy 1k everyone
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>>520601125
>>520601757
>fits in sequelshit to reward the samefag spammer
>0 succubus prison, an actual game
I will confess there is a certain degree of bitterness to that. Some off-topic game used to shitpost but not one of the games that had a lot of discussion.
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https://youtu.be/a0oZEnFm4Q4?si=xi1E-ibXiInEstnL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSfEfnQZlqk

Just for anyone who missed them.
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>>520604731
Our collage maker seems to prioritize only characters that are actually asked for, which is why there are also things like Ashel not being paired with Bonnie (nobody asked for Ashel)
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>>520605000
she wants to turn her family tree into her older sister thats lewd as shit
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>>520604731
should've asked for mysuca then i guess, but i think the fact that no one actually asked for any girl from that game says a lot about it
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>>520605000
Never let your daughter be the leader of the "I want to fuck my dad" club.
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>>520605000
>AW Eden suddenly remembers Lucifina's going to be her mother-in-law
>MW Eden is extremely thankful Luka picked her out of everyone else
>PW Eden is starting her 'rebellious' phase against Ilias and enjoying it
How are all three Edens peak wife material?
Also, has anyone figured out what the new accessories you get do, exactly?
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>>520606838
>( IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE )
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>>520607317
bold of you to assume we do get any new accessories haha...
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>>520607842
>Age
I don't think I've ever seen such a bar, and it fills me with dread.
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>>520607317
The JP wiki has them, putting aside the +50% to all stats
Lime, all stats up on death.
Alice 9th Heroism skills +50%, Rapier and spear skills act twice.
Alice 15th Heroism skills +50%, Dark skills act twice
Neris Heroism and Chaos skills +50%.
La Croix Revive twice after death.
Eden Stats up (30%?) if Eden is in the party.
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>>520608451
>bold of you to assume we do get any new accessories
honestly? good.
fucking based.
you know why?
because if girls start giving repeats or identical accessories (or just none at all) then that means that there's more of a chance for OTHER girls to get the ring as well.
this lends greater hope that more girls will eventually become weddable, until eventually, all girls can become someone's (trtr-recognized) one true wife.
tying it to camp and accessories was retarded anyway since it meant people just started choosing "meta" options over who they actually liked.
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>>520609571
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>520609635
ah, it would appear they did get unique things after all
not like I'd complain either way I suppose, some of the flavor of the gifts are kind of nice
>>520609585
>Lime, all stats up on death.
.....boy, that kind of sucks
>Eden boosting by a factor of 3
perfect
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>>520609753
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>520610272
peak dragongirl right there
dont bully please
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>>520609635
Too bad it was a lie.
>>520609585
>Eden Stats up (30%?)
15%
>Rapier and spear skills act twice
>"Letter to Mother"
She's really funny in her craziness.
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>>520609585
Does Alice IX's gift stack with the combat skill X2 ability? And XV's gift with magic skills X2 ability? Would be a waste of a gift if they don't.
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>>520603935
tits wanted?
..........well, how many of them do you want?
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>>520609585
>Alice 15th Heroism skills +50%, Dark skills act twice
You know what this is probably going to give Constance's ring a run for its money once Worldbreaker job is available and you get the three Dark chain.
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I was struggling and turns out I had to run the game raw.
For the anon yesterday that asked where I downloaded Negotiation X Monster: I think it was at f95zone. Good luck
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>>520611429
I think picking marriage options just for meta gift/power reasons is inconceivably gay, but doing it specifically just to reduce Alice to the ultimate levels of true cuckdom would be kind of funny
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>>520611968
Picking something like 9th for Rapier/Spear Luka would be pretty interesting way to treat the MC once you stop self-inserting into the quickshot psychopath, but honestly most potential interesting rings are sadly negated by Rabbit Luka and FoC being too strong. I do agree that it is funny that the most meta options so far are a human woman and Alice's mom
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>>520611456
Huh, a scifi looking monstergirl game. That's rare.
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>>520612656
It’s just that her laboratory is super advanced. Her zone is actually the worst off since she is solely focused on research and outside it has been turned into a decrepit urban area.
Most of the rest of the game is more normal looking. Like, countryside to city tier of technology
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>>520613390
Eh, that's alittle disappointing, but I'll take what I can get. Thanks for informing me, Anon.
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>>520610898
Those tits don't look like they're meant for pressing on faces.
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>>520591330
Same thing.
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>>520610272
game?
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trtr added even more numbers to be shown, "numbers after infinity". and my damage only in trillions at best yet...
>>520615346
it's Gal Guardians or something.
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>>520615346
Gal Guardians 2
Castlevania-like game of two demon maids having to fight the other demon factions. I think it released s few days ago
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>>520616136
>muryoutaisuu
>equivalent to 10^68~10^88
What the fuck is this game anymore
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Do you want your monsterwife to be signifigantly bigger than you or signifigantly smaller than you?
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>>520603935
>girl luka
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>>520617503
>equivalent to 10^68~10^88
>What the fuck is this game anymore
We were Balatro all along...
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>66or 99 hits of Ninefold Rakshasa in one turn
why is this allowed? I thought chaos was supposed to be hard
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>>520618964
As a guy that has never met a girl taller than him, I dream about a taller wife, anon. I dream about it alot.
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>>520618964
I want my angelwife to have signifigantly bigger tits than my presently unsmothered head.
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trtr could probably do five more rings or more dialogues but did this instead. for one insignificant line in changelog.. the actual change is 350 changed skill lines.
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>>520618964
Bigger.
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>>520618964
Tall enough her tits are as big as my head. I’d get sandwiched by two wives, incapable of freeing myself, looking at her smug face above as my head is stuck between two pair of tits and she can do whatever she wants to my powerless body
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manwhore general
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>>520620521
But what if I activated a chain of a bunch of Tentacle skills and each had bonus hits and activated multiple times...
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>>520620521
>Ninefold Rakshasa
>SSSS rank skill
You should see a Doomsday build.
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>>520604731
That faggot latched onto this thread when it went to shit and never cared about the thread's actual topics or culture, just LARPed as its discord server owner or something. I'm surprised you even cared enough to look at that cringy shit.
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>>520623593
Do you think Hiruko just keeps putting in 1 more tentacle at a time to see how many will fit?
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>>520621320
Your education has been going well, I see.
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>>520623593
thank the game allows you to speed up battle animations, otherwise i would avoid using Hiruko and Nuruko to avoid spending 10 minutes watching them use tentacle skills
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>>520603716
Yeah, everything's fine. I've mostly overcome the withdrawal symptoms from leaving Paradox and /mggg/ for now, too. This makes the wait for the manual translation easier (I'm still 99,9% unspoilered). Though I'm starting to think about making an updated version of the savefiles. I've noticed some kinks in them. Like the apocryphal one having no Sorcery skills. But luckily that still has some time. Cool collages by the way, anon. Saw the christmas one, too.
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>>520603247
Welcome back!
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>>520625425
>spoiler
A lot of us are talking with unmarked spoilers now, so if you haven't done your playing, you might want to start soon, even if you have misgivings against the bits that are MTL
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>>520625565
Between the Whitiels and Holmiels, the oppai loli Angels are taking over.
Angelsoldieranon must be proud.
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>>520626440
Me and all four of my friends are proud.
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>>520618964
wtf nobody likes shortstacks here?
for shame!
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>>520618964
>>520626642
Most of my favorites are much smaller than me!
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>>520626512
...
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>>520626512
>four of my friends
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>>520618964
Standing paizuri height
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>>520626803
One of those seems a little different...
Why does the left one have a proper weapon like a whip?
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>>520627567
They're all valid Paradox weapons though
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>>520625663
Thanks for the warning. I know it's a bit risky, but hey it's a special occasion. Regarding MTL I don't think I actually have anything against it and maybe I'll cave in at one point in the future, but besides preferring the high quality of the manual translation I also was actually too much in a Paradox frenzy. I think I would have gone through part 3 way too fast, even though the best thing about my first part 1/part 2 run was taking my time and exploring pretty much everything. Even the enemy dialogues. It got me into a sense of wonder. I want to feel that again.
>>520625565
I don't see what you did there I've squinted my eyes
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I am happy that by ascending Inuel, Ilias finally created an angel with big paws, as she had promised when she rubbed the paw of the polar bear girl in her village.
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>>520625176
If is the year 2045, AI RPG Maker exists and you can just feed it a bunch of stuff.
Monmusu Paradox RPG 3D Remake has been released. It is an open world 3D rpg where all the actions have full animations and sounds due to AI.
But all the attacks have unskippable animations now.
Hiruko's turns are just straight up 10min tentacle simulators.
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>>520630613
>any
did you threw ALL the shit there or what? Show how contents of your Patch.rb look like.
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>>520630613
>rolling back
don't do that
download and extract the 3.05 game anew
patch it
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>>520601125
It sure has been a long ride.
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>>520603935
>>520619431
>girl Luka
Well if you insist.
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Set up a party before going into the Monster Lord's Castle.
>Technique Converter
>Heavy Technique
>Gun Combo +2
I think these abilities put in a lot of work.
My builds for Nuruko and Vitae were disappointing.
(Elder Scylla has a passive for better Tentacle skills, but that means foregoing Apoptosis status resistances. It's gotta be a job or an ability equip. AFAIK, lots of bosses will use Zero Shift, so High Tentacle Up isn't a great option.)
>Ribo-Ribo, Jillian: Holy Desperado 900,000
>Riot: Roaring Lotus Fang - 350,000
>Emeth: Giant's Hammer - 320,000
>Maiss: Prominence - 250,000
>Nuruko: Normal Attack - 140,000
>Vitae: Slime Gungnir - 120,000
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>>520589216
>>520605000
Wait, Eden can be married?
ALL THE EDENS!

What the hell, how did I miss that

Still no Hild

>>520609585
>Lime, all stats up on death.
Eh?
>Alice 15th Heroism skills +50%, Dark skills act twice
>Neris Heroism and Chaos skills +50%.
Hey that's pretty good!
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Happy 1000, /mg3/.

>>520603935
>strong lucifina become retarded
>monstergirl increase children
>help anons
>daji tier item
>human getting femdom
>unless eden
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>>520635319
You FOOL!
What have you done!?
His penis was his ONLY weakness..!
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Who should be next to get a ring?
I imagine the choices next would be
Sara
Drifla
Aldramech
White Rabbit
Reaper
Micaela-Chan
Lucifina-Chan

Through there could be more, Remina was not there in my game but she was added to the camp in an update and now has the ring option in this update as well as a new sex scene, like Constanze's her's is also cowgirl sex with impregnation and promise of marriage because of it.

The lilith sisters, Zion and Gnosis and the six ancestors and the archeangels will probably get ring scenes eventually but man do I hope he doesn't do it for Alice 1st, Black Alice, Sub IIIas
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>>520636435
I rechecked Lime's after downloading the new version, it's all stats up at the start of battle.
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>>520639196
Where. Is. Hild.
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>>520639196
STOP TRYING RING EVERY MONSTER GIRL IN THE MULTIVERSE
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>>520641354
Giving birth to one of Luka's many bastard daughters. We went over this a million times already.
Unfortunately, the camp scene disappears in the post game, so there isn't a point where she can logically get it.
>>520640032
Does the Alice IX and XV gift stack with the muli turn combat and magic skill ability? Quadruple dark skill attacks is going to be insane if they do.
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>>520641695
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I'll be honest, mate. Sonya's ring scene made get horny especially the follow up where she kisses him, am I actually vanilla after all?
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>>520642280
>am I actually vanilla after all?
Excuse me?
Is this what they call "identity theft"?
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>>520641762
>Unfortunately, the camp scene disappears in the post game, so there isn't a point where she can logically get it.
Now that's dumb. Just make an event where Luka and Hild can discuss (or not) and telekinetically give her the ring. Done.
I'm a genius.
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>>520639196
Zion, Gnosis, Lilith Sisters, Spider Princess, Elf Princess
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>your order is boobs!
funny new puff-puff lines are few and far between
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Granberia, my beloved.
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I had a dream where I got married to the three Edens and they all stayed at my side, Paradox Eden on my left, AW Eden on my right and MW Eden in the middle, also this played in the backround of my dream....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzxGyoo3ycU
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>>520601125
Happy #1000, anons! I'd like to thank everyone who encouraged me to work on my own monster girl game last thread, you're good people.
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>>520650445
I'll have to go back through the archive- new MG games are always a treat, and if you're working on one, please keep doing your best!~
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>>520625176
>mfw I used hiruko without the fastest animation setting
>it dealt 3 damage
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>>520653821
Emphasizes tentacle attacks and digestion as her specialty. Neither are good against bosses.
Doesn't have her own unique shield either, leaving a giant hole in her stat line and damage boosters.
Hiruko is my favorite Ancestor, but is easily the worst of the bunch.
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As characters are the apostles of chaos dead for good? I mean EX=Sonya fused with Proto Sonya but the others were killed by judgement, world breaker and koron, I honestly don't know what happened to Ideal Lucas the epilogue sent him on a journey while the main plot had him get removed from the plot by chaos goddess black alice and she managed to come back into the story to take her own swings at Chaos and show up at the victory party to say she won't do bad things anymore because Luka and Chaos would easily kill her
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>>520657550
They can come back whenever as long as Chaos is around and will come back for NG++
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I wish there were more girls that embarrassed Luka over being nude in public. I think only Desert Scylla did.
Well and now Titania with what I saw of the CGs
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>>520601125
congratulations
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>>520657550
its said black alice would take 2000 years to regen when marcellus did his thing in one of the routes.

but her stats show shes a master of time magic so you can prolly put two and two together. (she stayed dead intentionally in one of the routes or marcellus held her tf down while idea lukas is just a little bitch.)
also shes a paradox on top of that so shes in a weird state of i can exist again cuz i always existed even if you retcon my origin.
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Reminder that a monster or angel that is trying to reign in their lusts, please do not tempt them, they're trying very very hard to not give in, taking out your penis and dangling it in front of them is not only mean it's considered a form of torture.
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>>520660812
Fine then I’ll walk around with a shirt, shorts and sneakers then. No problem right?
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plap dragon girls the era of the fox is over, the era of the harpy is over, this general is a dragon girl general now
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I want a hug because my dog died.
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>>520661932
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>>520663034
My dog also died recently, and also a little kitten perished. It sucks.
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>>520663297
Indeed
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>>520639196
You know what would be funny? If Black Alice becomes an option you can attempt, but she rejects it. Or Heinrich, who's right there, intervenes. I'll it to your imagination how.
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>>520650445
>shin
Here's you album.
https://catbox.moe/c/v28bjt
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>>520664963
I wanna give Lestea a little sister
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My cat hunted a dragon and brought it to me.
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>>520664963
If she had gotten some would things have turned out the way they did?
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>>520663034
My condolences anon,

>>520665952
No, that's why you couldn't sleep with her, iirc the creator said as much as well
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You come across pic related whilst walking down the street. What do?
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>>520663034
Come here, anon, kitsune will hug you like this tail~
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>>520667792
I continue walking down the street. Got no time for crazy bitches.
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>>520664275
Black Alice or Reaper would be good options for those of us who don't get to pick their favorite girls. Feeling spiteful? Just force 1st law into unwanted marriage or cuck Heinrich! Evil god ending ftw.
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>>520667792
You know, Lucifina is technically an upgraded form of Cupid, so she's extra lewd.
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>>520668762
And Valkyrie is an upgraded form of Micaela. She even hangs out with Cupid like they're sisters all the time.
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What's new in 3.06? new game ++?
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>>520669583
sure
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>>520669583
Rumors have it if you completition the FInal part of MGQ: Paradox you can get isekaid in your own Alt-Timeline.
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>>520669824
I don't want to live in dystopia hellhole where kanon and hiruko exist
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How did Lolilias cross into the AW during the Alice Route again? The dimension travel device was already broken by that point and sub-Ilias already used Nuruko to help Metatron and Sandalphon cross to the MW. What was even her goal if she wasn't going to fight the party and just push her friends into the pocket castle? She could've just stayed in the singularity world and she'd still be alive with her friends.
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>>520670075
Trtr is a hack who wanted a cheap sad moment please understand.
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>>520614436
oh? are you so sure about that?
just imagine, little succubus.
imagine so many big, fluffy, cuddly tits bouncing up and down and pressing against your face, snuggling up against your body and chirping hapily as they perch playfully on your arms and shoulders, cozying up to you for warmth and affection like adorable orbs of joy, just waiting for their turn until you'll hug and pet them like the preciously cute little birds they are.
surely, they are the perfect tits.
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>>520670075
The teleportation device was operational by the time she showed up again. Also, she wanted to not have her friends get killed in the great purge.
You do know what Alice and her posse wanted to do to everyone in the Singularity world right?
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>>520670470
>You do know what Alice and her posse wanted to do to everyone in the Singularity world right?
They were going to do that everywhere BUT the singularity world, which is where they wanted everyone to merge into.
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>>520670894
no, neither world was doing that
they wanted people to merge into THEIR world; the Arc was just taking people directly. MW's plan was to kill everybody in the singularity world to funnel all of their souls into MW. Both of them were ultimately planning to leave the singularity world for dead after "saving" the inhabitants.
This is literally Erubetie's singular purpose and why the Lilith trio were initially on a suicide mission before discovering Luka could get them back. Afterwards the plan is just revolved around Erubetie assimilating all life in the world and blowing up the planet to kill everybody on it to transfer all their souls to MW.
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>>520670075
Sub Ilias had Nuruko at that point and could do transfers on a smaller scale, lolias wouldn't have much value on her own but Sub Ilias could still get some use out of Eden.
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>>520670894
Anon they'd been killing off places and trying to cause mass deaths in the Singularity World for months if not years because their plan was always to destroy all life on it. Even Alice 15th and Alice I tell you that. Erubetie ends up being their means to do so (albeit we don't actually see her do it) but they do kill everyone and bring their souls to "merge" them together. Iliasville just ends up more-or-less unchanged since it didn't exist in the MW,
Also if they were merging into the Singularity World then Priestess wouldn't have felt the need to burn Grangold Castle to the ground to destroy Kanon's entire garden.
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>>520671585
>>520672358
None of the residents of Iliasville in the MW post ending mention being blown up by Worldbreaker and the fact that the town even exists when Ilias continent was an almost barren wreck in the MW implies otherwise.
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>>520672626
anon I literally just said they were killed by Erubetie and not Worldbreaker
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>>520672626
Anon you just forgot how it destination talked about during the route by Micaela. She straight up says that her soul was pulled into MW by Soul Net spread by Dark Goddess. It's the evidence, they gather souls into MW.
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>>520672626
Destroying a world seems to merge them, as it is shown in Judgement ending. The Singularity world being the starting point of the mass producing AUs becomes the dominate one in the end.
It's pretty fucking weird to say the least.
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>>520672746
My point is that if the residents of the singularity world were killed you'd expect them to make some mention of it. The soul net the MW's plan relies on shouldn't bring the infrastructure of Iliasville along either and it seems completely fine in the post ending.
>>520673192
Pretty sure Luka changed that up once he became WB. He did say he was destroying all other worlds to protect "his" world.
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>>520650445
Keep at it anon. It will bery very frustrating and difficult at first, but you'll get better and the pace of progress will increase. When learning to draw I started at three months per drawing and now I'm down to three days.
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>>520673765
>you'd expect them to make some mention of it
they did
also they worked to reconstruct the village; again since it didn't exist in the MW the people there weren't as drastically affected as those who lived in other places
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>>520673765
worldbreaker and judgement protect their worlds, but "their" worlds are the MW and AW respectively.
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>>520674471
>they did
Really? I don't recall reading this and I talked to all the people there. Did my mtl just fuck up?
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>>520667792
>You come across pic related whilst walking down the street. What do?
This but going back indoors to hide.
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>>520674770
maybe? you could've also just missed someone, I guess. I think the old guy was one of the people who did have a change in his two lives, but when his souls are merged he decides to go back to New!Iliasville and live with the person he married and lived with there in the singularity world over the one in the MW world. Sonya also mentions how many people have become confused by the mixture of their two lives from the one they remember in the singularity world and the problems that the merger has caused them.
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>>520603935
>monstergirl increase children
>foxes serious
>tail worship
Foxes are evil
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>>520675148
Just impregnate them as punishment
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>>520650445
Best of luck anon! I'd love to try my hand it someday myself, once I have the time, but I'll be glad to watch your progress in the meantime. The branching evolution/upgrade paths sound like a cool idea honestly.
I'd have offered to help you with art-related things but I know you've said you want to do it yourself, and honestly you're much better at digital art than I am (the Lamia sprite was really cute) so I don't think you need any help anyways. I really look forward to seeing how your game turns out!
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>>520673574
My impression was they just rebuilt Illiasburg and Snow Heaven in both endings during the time skip that was present.
Either way, if the ending of the Alice Route took place in the Singularity World then it'd be impossible for Priestess to have burned down Kanon's art gallery because that place only existed in the MW.
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>>520674471
>Sabasa people are also fine because Hiruko fucked off
Funny that her hellscape basically made the entire country have no change
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>>520618964
Bigger and taller
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>>520603935
>add rape
>human getting femdom
>suck experience
Vinum....
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>>520676226
The tits are the perfect size, but the body they're attached to is way too big.
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noooo! the game is too short for me! :(
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>>520675580
That depends. Do they stop being evil after or do they spread evil among their descendants
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>>520672358
So the Grandgold King now has to co-rule with a pill popper? Talk about a downgrade from Queen Ant. Poor guy wants to make his nation into a constitutional monarchy where he is just a national symbol, and can laze around like his VN counterpart.
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>>520676871
what gaem?
if its paradox, one day there will be a mod that makes enemy stats up to x10 instead of just x3-x5 of Paradox. i believe...
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>>520676595
Ideal height for a wife.
>not wanting a tall wife
>ideal for motorboating
>ideal for missionary and cuddling
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>>520677348
>co-rule
She's one of the six ancestors. She's above him.
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>>520651334
>>520674264
Thanks a lot, anons! Much appreciated.
>>520675851
Sorry I'm not the cool spriteanon, I'm the other guy sticking his foot in the door >>520306386
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>modded Succubus in Wonderland to force Reto to have Breast Addict in every fight, so curing it permanently is impossible
>playing on Real difficulty
I don't know why I expected anything other than getting instantly one-shotted in some fights, but this might be fun
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>>520678765
Good job, anon! Modding games to fit your preferences is always fun!
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>>520677850
Meanwhile
>lap-sitting thighjob
>groping tits during lap-sitting thighjob
>easy paizuri + kiss
>hugging paizuri
>you can princess_carry even a dominant partner if she has a low height stat
There's a legitimate reason why the Alexi status effect took so long to cure, the supertallwife can't compete.
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>>520672358
I actually wonder just what is going to happen to these worlds that FoC saved from getting judged or broken during the decision routes.
AW and MW are absolutely wrecked in the both routes. Multiple cities in ruin, a rebel army actively trying to overthrow the system, most faction leaders dead, and both goddesses dead.
Luka and his chosen girl are left with a lot of bad luggage, even if they don't become mass murderer machines.
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>>520650445
What a waste of a great monstergirl design.
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>>520663034
I'm sorry for your lost, anon.
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>>520679890
Also
>princess carry your tall wife
>you’ll have tall children from her so no manlet genes pass on
Idk why you wouldn’t want a tall wife, the fox aspect is just a bonus
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>>520673574
Wow, my MW saves haven't been overwritten just yet, with not even half a dozen slots to spare No, destroying the world means the world is destroyed, not merged.
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>>520675851
>>520677882
>lamia sprite
That would be me. Had to rework the entire combat system to fit the snakes and mermaids in, so you guys better enjoy them.
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>>520680642
>manlet genes
Who cares about those? Foxes only beget more foxes.
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>>520677882
That's not a problem anon, I'm sure you'll get better in time with practice. I'm still trying to learn how to do digital art myself, since I'm so used to pencil work. I've had several things I've wanted to do for a while now when it comes to games but I think I'd probably start with a few smaller-scale things before tackling the passion work I really want to pour everything into.
>>520682184
Glad to see you're carrying on anon; I'm hapy you added in both Lamias and Mermaids as well!
I'm sure they'll be great.
I still need to get around to putting photoshop on this new laptop, paint isn't gonna cut it, but I can't find the free download for the old version of it that I had anymore and i can't afford the monthly subscription for the "modern" version even if i wanted to. I'll find something trustworthy eventually I hope.
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>>520684649
Just use Krita, it's more than good enough.
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>>520685936
huh, I've never heard of that one before. I'll look it up and give it a try. Thanks anon!
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>>520660812
So that’s her gimmick? She is a chaste monk but finally meeting a man throws all her lice and willpower into disarray?
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>>520306386
>>520677882
Make it for yourself, and perhaps your fellow /mggg/s. Use it as an excuse to improve your art, your writing, anything. I truly believe you are capable.
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>>520687534
Oh god, is she a second white fox?
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>>520677348
>So the Grandgold King now has to co-rule with a pill popper?
>>520677851
>She's one of the six ancestors. She's above him.
Kanon does not outrank him.
Furthermore, Kanon is not the Plant Queen. Best Girl is the Plant Queen.
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>>520660812
>>520661614
>>520687534
>>520688275
Yes yes, your sequelbait is super duper organic and not samefaggy at all.
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>>520679220
It was more of a side effect really. The original idea was that I wanted to see breast addict lines for everyone in the Succubus House, but the effect was always cured at the start of every fight for some reason. I couldn't get attacked by tits right away, in spite of my needs....
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>>520677094
Anon ALL monsters starve in a genetical level to become kind housewives
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>>520687969
I don't think anyone truly makes anything for themselves.
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>>520677094
The best kind of evil monstergirl is one that refuses to stop being evil, but is only nicer to you.
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What the fuck? When did Luka's balls drop? He looks like a ikemen now.
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>>520678765
You know that’s pretty hot actually. Imagine if every monster you met knows you fold like paper from her tits and they just press you with them for the fun of it
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>humans
>cum buckets just from contact with a superior monster girl
>m-monsters are conditioned in a genetical level to be loving hoursewives
YOU are conditioned in a genetical level to be a meat dildo
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>>520691701
Schrodingers Luka, he simultaneously is an ikemen and a shota depending on whos drawing him.
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>>520692157
Monster isn't strong. Penis is just weak.
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Which girl would win in a twerk-off ?
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>>520691701
He's fighting another man, so he drops the cute act.
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>>520693664
He is fighting a tranny.
Metamo will never be a man.
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>>520694156
Damn, even more of a reason to not be cute in front of them.
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>>520692157
>(You) are genetically conditioned to be-
In her arms, yes.
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>>520695619
She isn't that huge in game. She is a midget.
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>>520693369
Ilias obviously.

Her ass is built.
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>>520696056
And? That doesn't matter too much to me.
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>>520696496
FLAAAAT
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>>520696680
I still don't care, anon. Be there big dragon titty or perky ones, I WILL give them- and her- love!
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>>520696484
Bigger than Eden's?
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>>520696484
>Ilias obviously.
Correct. I love my wife dearly, but Ili's got the dumpy.
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>>520696834
She has rough scaly thighs and hands. I hope you don't mind chafing.
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>>520697234
Not really, no.
And I don't know why you're pushing so hard on this.
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>>520697362
Trying to save you from a subpar waifu!
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>>520697551
Anon, she's had my heart conquered for...14 years now?

She's not "subpar"- she's perfect for (me)!
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Since I've been having fun doing this lately I decided to look into some of the other Part 1 and 2 girls a bit more, and I think I found two reasons why the specialist focused traits ended up the way they did.

The first is that some of the T5 races have little connection back to even their T4 counterparts, lacking skill equivalents they used to have and instead replacing staple categories with entirely new ones. Considering the troubled development of the third route, this probably happened because some of the final races were created around a specific design or girl and made to "fit" them, rather than him making each final race first.

The second reason is that it turned out trtr actually DID try to go back to a lot of the older girls and update their traits but either messed up who got what, simply forgot some of them or just added the wrong skill entirely.
As an example: Rachnee, Rachura, and Ashidaka's specialist trait is supposed to give them a 30% damage boost and 50% SP reduction on Web-Based Skills, but during testing I discovered they didn't actually get this on the final Web skill (a T4 skill). When I went to check why it turned out trtr had intended to give it to them but left in a typo, which caused their traits to not apply to "Divine Spider's Earth-Covering Web" but instead "Divine Herbal Tea". All because he put in a 5 instead of a 6.
A lot of girls who had similar traits appear to have their trait lines copy/pasted as well, which does make logical sense in order to save time.
But it also means that if trtr forgot to include it for one girl, he forgot it for ALL of them. Hence why both the Jellyfish and Sea Anemone lack the final stinging tentacle skill.

I'm very grateful that Harpies seem to have none of these issues; given the huge scope of the game I really wonder how many times he accidentally messed up a trait like this.
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>>520698434
...Man, I'm glad I'm reading that here instead of experiencing that in game, criminy.

>Harpies seem to have none of these issues
Ah, of course not.~
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>>520698434
So if he screwed up once, the whole race type might have been effected because of the poor copy pasting?
Part 3 really does show it had a nightmare development as more of the game is datamined.
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Evil monsters that are only nice to you!
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>>520700506
Trtr doesn't give a shit about Part 1+2 girls that aren't main characters like Alma Elma.
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>>520698434
This is one of those cases where having a pre-made engine hinders more than it helps. With case like this you'd clearly want some sort of skill-tag system like in Path of Exile and one central Race object so that you don't have to worry about this crap when adding new characters or new skills. But since RPGmaker is built for final fantasy/dragon quest clones it can't handle complex, sprawling character build systems. I imagine the skill system lacks such options and it is nearly impossible to change how they work because you don't actually ever touch the game logic, all you do is hand it a bunch of config files.

>>520700506
>So if he screwed up once, the whole race type might have been effected because of the poor copy pasting?
It seems he is actually copy-pasting the code(the programmer in me is screaming, but potentially his only option in RPGMaker), it's entirely up to chance. For any similar instances, he might have gone back to fix the issue, but missed a girl. Or introduced entirely new typos on one of them.
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If your evil aligned monstergirl waifu refuses to become good, would you join their evil faction or try to stop her?
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>>520698434
Is this something that can be fixed, or would trying to use such a move crash the system because the spaghetti code is much more messier than just changing a digit?
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>still unable to file bug reports on available websites because they block anyone not in Japan and see through VPNs
>they still haven't discovered (much less fixed) Ultimate Magical Girl erroneously giving the wrong skill and locking you out of the final transformation
>50% of the bug reports the japanese players are making are just complaints about 'memories' (scene recollections) not listing their favorite h-scenes properly or just minor collision issues
Apparently 3.05 has a bug that can brick your save and prevent you from leaving the moon though, so watch out for that at least but still I wish it wasn't so difficult to pass the note along
>>520700361
It's at least the kind of "bug" that would be almost unnoticeable unless you actively were testing for stuff like this (like I was doing), but it is kind of unfortunate.
>>520700506
Yes, he copy-pasted specialist traits from everything I've seen: if he made a mistake on one of them then it's been on every single one that followed that I've seen so far.
Given we've finished our main playthrough by now I'm happy to help the thread (and potentially trtr once I can finally figure out a way to communicate with the guy) out by uncovering glitches or just datamining things for fun at least. Plus doing stuff like this can help it be fixed and hopefully help some of those girls out. By this point I at least know how to correct something like this at least.
>>520704431
He actually did get it right for some of them; Sully, Amy and Soapy (i.e, the Crab Girls and Shrimp) all have their bubble-related traits with the correct final skill. Fleesia (the Rafflesia Girl)'s trait was also updated to include T5 skills properly. It seems to be hit-or-miss, as the issue is specialist traits that require specific ids.
For example, Reina's trait is very simple and clean by comparison, only needing skill categories rather than specific ids. As a result, she's evergreen, and doesn't need trtr to go back to "update" it.
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>>520705812
I would simply correct her and stop her from being evil
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>>520705812
I'd stop her, but let her go to continue her evil another time.
This is the kind of relationship a hero and villain should have, even if they are lovers.
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>>520705878
I believe this IS something that could be fixed, potentially by myself but maybe not depending on how deep the problem lies. But if it's as simple as just correctly updating the trait of a girl, there should be no problem as it wouldn't be changing the skills themselves, just the skill the trait is applying itself to.
>>520705467
Considering he did get some girls correct it does seem to be entirely up to chance; notably to me as well some of the girls who had their traits updated got 'a' final skill added, but the 'skills' are ones THEY CAN'T LEARN unless you start jumping through hoops for them.
For example: the Pitcher Plant Girl's trait boosts dissolving slime skills, and she was given skill 9569 in her trait. That's "Dimensional Erosion Slime" from the fucking D.I., not even listed in her actor skills or callouts and she doesn't boost the plant skills that are associated with dissolving either. To get her to benefit from this you'd need to monkey-chain her race from Plant->Sea Dweller->Chimera->Land Dweller, just for this one attack.

Given the evidence that T5 Jobs/Races weren't initially planned this is likely where a huge part of the screwup stems from as while all of them have T4 skills the errors commonly continue to lie in T5, so when he had to go back and copy/paste them while already struggling to make said races he just started making mistakes with some of them, and since he had no one to double check for him they were never found.
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>>520705467
There are always options. As >>520706821 said, it wasn't a problem for Reina because it uses the entire skill category, Surely web-based skills could've been separated into another category instead of bunching them with generic insect skills. Adding a bunch of exceptions is just asking for trouble.
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I feel like we're nearing the end times. We humans are losing faith in ourselves...
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>>520712583
Are?
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>>520708745
Everything is possible in programming, the question is just how much work you gotta put in to make it work. Especially if we're dealing with a solo developer. You want to create a system that saves you from giving every single charcter an explicit list of every single skill affected by every single trait, because that is a massive pain in the ass to do.
I'm not advocating for any specific changes to this game, just talking system design/game dev in general. There's a lot of variance in how complex a system even just turn based combat can be. RPGMaker is on the simler side, designed for a few characters that have simple skill lists. On the other end of the spectrum is the D&D systems that have to make rules designed for a human arbitor understandable to a computer.
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While thinking of the Insect Girls (while the Harpies are uncontestably my eternal favorites I've always found the Insect Race to be fun to use in battle) I decided to go digging for their skills out of curiosity.
Almost all of the final skills are firmly in the 9600~ area, except for a couple of them: Apocalypse Whip and Funeral March of Death Flies.
However, there's another skill in here I'd forgotten about; Erotic Flies of Purgatory. No other insect skills in the game reference flies, even the ones that summon swarms (which have no final equivalent, alongside stingers/scales/honey/web/etc). Furthermore, no Insect Race teaches EFoP. This is because, rather appropriately, it's a skill exclusive to the Beelzebubs: only Barbarella and her Sisters have this (not even their daughter).

I also decided to check Baal Zebub's properties again and compared them to Abaddon, and found something noteworthy.
BZ originates from 2014, while Abaddon comes from 2016. However, unlike other Calamities BZ's H-Scene was actually completed all the way back in 2019, around the time FoC/Deus Ex/Route-Centric things were being developed, while Abaddon had her scene completed in 2022. And yet in 2024 BZ had another cg for her added (a cut-in). Abaddon also has some physical similarities to Hive Mind, who was made around the time of her H-Scene.

It's impossible to be 100% conclusive, but I think Abaddon was originally meant to have been in BZ's spot as the "final" Insect Race/Calamity once that direction was chosen for the story. AW and FMoDF might have been intended to be exclusive skills for them respectively, being made well before the final insect race skills.
As for why Abaddon would be replaced to begin with, it's probably because her artist (Xelvy) vanished mid-development of Part 3.
Trtr was already repurposing assets, so since BZ had been finished for years, he went with what was completed, and Abaddon was eventually repurposed to just be an enemy encounter in the final dungeon.
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>>520712583
...So many have, already.
Me included, to some extent.
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>>520708745
>>520715152
It would've been possible, but you need to consider just how many 'specialized' categories there would be if he did that. Insects have a huge number of them, and while it works to give them unique flavor from one-another, if he made all of them (stingers, honey, pheromones/scales, shell strikes, leg strikes, webs, pleasure, sickle/claw, sonic wave, swarm attacks etc) each into their own individual categories you'd be looking at at least 10 new Skill Groups to split those Insect Skills into alone. And that's just for Insects: Tentacles, Ocean, Slime, Plant, etc also have many specialist traits that focus on specific types of their skills. It's also worth remembering this was originally made with Part 1/2 in mind (i.e, before the comicial levels of power creep): some Insect Girls have generalist traits that just broadly boost 'all' Insect Skills, with the trade off to the specialist traits being that their power boosts are either significantly lower or come at higher costs. Making all these categories would mean he'd have to make sure to include each category for them as well, potentially making the problem apply to them instead.
Harpies avoided this despite having at least four different categories of Wing Skills on their own because none of them have traits boosting "specific" kinds of Wing Skills, just Wing Skills as a whole or other Harpy-Associated Skills such as Dancing, Spears, Fans, etc. Plants and Insects have many more girls for them in the game, which led to them having more 'specific' kinds.
This worked fine when the game was simpler and had a smaller number of skills/traits to balance around, but as things became more complicated it looks as though he started to struggle to keep up with it and the system he created began to work against him. I can only imagine this thing became a massive pain in the ass to work with; trying to check individual girls to see if they have problems is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
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>>520715225
Abaddon actually is described to have had a connection to the Hive Mind in her profile.
On that note of FMoDF, this monster does have a swarm of fly creatures in her sprite, so she might have been intended to get it herself.
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>>520717003
I ended up running out of space, but part of why I looked into Abaddon more as well was because not only is she very heavily implied to be connected to the Hive Mind, she's outright asked if she's a servant or more and chooses to dodge the question, and the Monsterpedia outright calls her an "Administrative Entity" in the same way it lists something like Dark Phoenix.
Given how some lines have hinted at cut or rewritten parts of the game before, it felt like an indication that she's supposed to be the 'real' Hive Mind until Xelvy's disappearance had too much of an impact for trtr to wait any longer and she had to be replaced.
>this monster does have a swarm of fly creatures in her sprite
It's really hard to tell when you talk to her in the castle, but it's easier to see in her sprite or files that she actually just has a huge array of long lashing whips, and two of them in particular have two sets of wings and are tipped with claws. That being said, she does have a lot of...well, I'm assuming fluid-filled sacs on her (knowing Xelvy is Xelvy), so she may well have gotten it anyway. Given her namesake and all those reproductive orifices she might also have been intended to be a more direct application of Abaddon, birthing huge swarms of Locusts that'd overrun the planet (which would fit with the "Universe keeps trying to re-do past events; Baal Zebul and the Beelzebubs did that same thing). Although, if such was the case those 'Locusts' would've also probably been intended for Xelvy, which he'd never be able to do since he vanished.
It's fun to think about what might've happened in earlier versions; at the very least I do genuinely like the final form of the Hive Mind and Baal Zebub, so it still turned out ok for her in the end.
It took me long enough to catch a screenshot of her whips at full length that Doppel actually wandered up to us when we finally were able to get the right frame.
I guess she was curious what we were doing.
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>>520719594
The only thing I would say directly conflicts with this theory is TrTr using that absolutely hideous Xelvy design for Echidna, which ended up being another Un-Do save job for a hentai scene.
Though, I guess you can argue that Un-Do's art quality was getting really bad as we got closer to the end, and you can tell he had to rush those scenes out the door with the last Xelvy designs in the final Tartarus. Maybe it was so late to be finished, that TrTr had already got the Hive Mind plotline over and done with.
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>>520677882
i instantly got reminded of that one south park episode
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>>520642801
*headpats*
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>>520712583
humanity needs correction
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>>520720527
Given how glaringly obvious Echidna's last-minute-addition as a calamity was (hell the magic school bus parody with Prom was done in 2023 and so were some of her other cgs) I think the issue is that Abaddon and Echidna were reliant on other things Xelvy was no longer around to produce to finish them, while Setouchi is the eternal man of deliveries with Baal Zebub finished for quite a while by then. With how long he must have waited I think he only used Baal Zebub as the one to take the role once it was clear Xelvy wasn't coming back.

I think Echidna actually highlights another problem trtr ran into with the third route though, or at least the final draft/'calamity' version of it: namely, in the process of padding out the game with pure filler by dumping a bunch of unconnected bosses on the world, trtr had railroaded himself into "having" to give all the races in the game a final race that was based off of their associated enemy rather than letting it come more naturally. i.e; rather than having a race and then a girl designed around being it's apex, he ended up taking a design, would make it the end-point and tried to forcibly mold the final races around them instead. Not for all of them, but this is definitely true for some of them.

And it is REALLY obvious from Echidna that trtr had absolutely no fucking idea what to do for Lamias, because her race cut out practically 2/3s of what Lamias did and she's so blatantly not one that they point out themselves how she's essentially just an insect. But he needed something that fit the bill of "Lamia World-Ender" while already hard pressed for time and behind with a lot of artists. It was either "Echidna" or "wait even longer while I think of a better idea".
Jormangander was made much later than Asmodeus and one of the final skills has her name so maybe she was the original one, but I guess he couldn't think of what to actually do with her there. She looks the part much better than Echidna though.
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>>520724503
Humanity just needs to have human girlfriends. Like Myusca!
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>>520725474
I'm kind of surprised he just didn't just make Saja the holder of the final Lamia race. She is pretty much what a Echidna is, being the ancestor of multiple monster species, and is obsessed with babies.
I guess he had to give her be the conclusion of the Monster Lord race line, but we had multiple quests that dealt with that wacky family tree in the chaos route.
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>1000 threads
Feels like yesterday when /v/ was the main local for these threads.
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>>520726813
>is obsessed with babies.

I don't recall Saja being like that. Sure, she says it would be good if Luka made a kid with her during the victory feast, but she's far from the only one that does that.

Though, I'm trying to go for evidence "wants to make babies", thinking on it, you're probably counting her reaction to loli dark Goddess (becoming overprotective and what not) as part of it.
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>>520731126
I was mostly talking about her wanting her family line to continue, seeing how she really wants Luka to fuck Alice. Even when you are about to wipe out her world and kill her mother, she still insists that you fuck that great granddaughter of hers.
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>>520726273
Human?!
But I wanted a JK Shikibus to dryfish me...
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YouTube is filled with translated paradox part 3 content.
I thought the game wasn't translated yet.
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>>520729373
I'm fairly certain this general restarted the count. It used to be a MGQ general and not MG games.
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>>520736719
it's mtl
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>>520737272
Wow machine has come a long way.
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>keep feeling compelled to draw lamias for some reason
>although I have been drawing numerous different snake monsters for many many years I’ve never felt the desire to make monster girl ones before
>look through the folder of snake monsters to find the date things turned from “abomination” to “girl”
>it was a couple days after I beat echidna
>apparently echidna bothers and disappoints me so much that I started trying to make my own lamia-based calamities just to see if I can do one better than it
I love Paradox and even the calamities as the filler that they are (as honestly they’re pretty great and very enjoyable filler) but man this really is going to just be the one singular thing that will forever bother me isn’t it
It’s not even about snake aids or what they did to the Lilith Trio anymore, I think I really am just that disappointed with how completely un-lamia-like the final “lamia” is and how he ignored so many cool things that could’ve been done with snakes in favor of…….well, that.

Maybe once I make a one that feels good enough I’ll finally get all these lamias out of my system.
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>>520737145
Well, now it's the 1000th since then. I think that's still cause to be happy (besides the HOP way)
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Did Black Alice deserve it?
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>>520741126
She's (supposed to) have Heinrich, the fuck should she care
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>>520741837
because she fumbled
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>>520741126
Black Alice not only fucked over relationships between Monsters and Humans for god knows how long, it made it so her sister had to clean up the mess through it
So yes she did
>>520741837
Because Heinrich would fuck a human woman over her. Even if Heinrich decides to go after Black Alice, her sister got married first. It’s indirectly saying she is better at seduction than Black Alice.
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>>520698434
>Looking through the insect girls, again
>Virtue-Silkiel apparently counts
>"skills using sticky thread-"
>immediately crack open the actor list again
>scroll down
>lol
>lmao
She didn't even get to be in Parts 1 and 2 where this problem didn't exist, delph angel she may be i feel even more sorry for her now
I think that kind of cements it, there is ABSOLUTELY no way trtr wasn't just copy-pasting entire lines of code for the specialist traits in order to save time if he repeated errors like this on even Part 3 Girls who were quite literally just introduced
So if he messed up the trait on one girl he fucked it up on all of them
and given how they change from girl to girl i dont think grepwin's solving this for everyone

should I start just making a list? maybe that'll be something to do in-between spending time with my wife.
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Big foreheads are cute.
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>>520736719
>>520737272
>>520737398
Yeah, the translation is obviously not perfect, but more than sufficient to be playable.
And it's really only for screencaps when replaying that further translation is a big draw. Which is a bit sad since it means it's more likely any attempt at full translation will fall through.
Then again, maybe translation can turn into more of a proofreading exercise now.
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>>520748176
One of the only cases where I've ever found shrinking acceptable in a scene.
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>>520692157
> conditioned in a genetical level to be loving hoursewives
Until you’re bone dry from getting Plapped daily.
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Where do I find the charged particle acceleration cannon and the proton beam cannon?
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>>520756016
First is reward for side-quest from Uriela when she's in Grand Noah Palace. And preventively answer another question: basement, angel guard.
and
Place of Memory, insides somewhere..
Both are on AW route.
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>>520757178
Am almost finished with grangold AW NG+ and was wondering why I never had it, thank you anon
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>>520754292
>dryfished not by energy drain, but by the sheer amount or normal sex
No...
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The sun was born, so it shall die,
so only shadows comfort me
I know in darkness, I will find you,
giving up inside like me
Each day shall end as it begins,
and though you’re far away from me
I know in darkness, I will find you,
giving up inside like me
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Luka is an incarnation of Vishnu and every single angel and monster whore should be bowing before him that he alone grants them the opportunity to continue existence.
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>>520742996
So Black Alice is a femcel. Monstergirl femcel.
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https://pastebin.com/w87i82zP

Tiny Improvements for bobsmtl of MGQ:Paradox 3.06

v0.15 - for 3.06 only
- 3.06 patch changes merged in.
- All new stuff from 3.06 mtl'ed.
- tiny improvements here and there
- Temporary update to cheese's patcher bat: made it work with 3.06 game archive. Official real Cheese mod and its patcher haven't been updated yet.
Optional mods: Feature_Text_Exp.rb updated to work with 3.06. If you're using this mod, get the updated version from optional mods archive.

I tested it for an 5 minutes, it works.
>map doesn't..
trtr changed the button. Now it's Q instead of W if you're on keyboard.
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uuuh I was trying to browse the game with the editor and I kind copy and pasted some stuff so I can see MW and AW's maps and now my savefile gets permanently stuck in some wall even after I restored to the version before I messed with stuff up, and I forgot to make backup.
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>>520766258
>my savefile
dude what the fuck
Just use mtool or cheese to teleport to Map 228, Pocket Castle. coordinate 16 16.
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>>520766771
after I saved, I always ended up stuck in the wall after reloading.
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>>520766898
yeah no shit. why you even used your save at all
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>>520767048
how am I supposed to check various stuff then

I bet this is chaos' fault
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>>520761983
So what are Remina and Constanze's scenes like? I hear both got actual sex now from Luka, When did TrTr become okay with human girls raping Luka?
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>>520767163
This is definitely on you.
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>>520761983
before I do anything I just have to download and copy past my save file,right? I'm long past the ring stuff I gave mine to Sonya back then, but I am interested in the whiel quest, I hear sub IIIas really crashed out over not being the only goddess around anymore
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>>520768956
yeah, if you have 3.06 then patch it, throw save in and play
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>>520768446
you can't fool me chaos

prepare to eat my logos magia
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>>520769296
I have 3.04
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aaa where the fuck do i farm the endgame materials for goddess / monster lord / luka blacksmiths? I've turned off encounters for like 90% of chaos route, only found monsterlord spawns at the illias temple at snow continent

is luka stuff in the final dungeon? because i'm just about to go there
also what the fuck is the deal with the beastly weapons after the spirit weapons with that temple thing on fairy island?
i dont even know if i have those or who upgrades those
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>>520770440
if you have python 3.8+ you can use this:
https://github.com/LooseEthics/monpedia
anon made it back when part 3 was released
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I hate the Administrator's Tower (AW).
How many more labyrinths like this are there?
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>>520770812
thanks, guess everything is in the chaos dungeon
300 hour runtime save... guess I'm heading to the end guys.
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>>520771727
>I hate the Administrator's Tower (AW).
>How many more labyrinths like this are there?
Oh no... oh nonono...

No, really. It gets worse. A lot worse. A lot of us did this before the dungeon guides too.
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>>520758413
>>520754292
Fuck foxes
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>>520780208
Bear hug foxes, push it to the hilt and unload directly in their wombs!
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>>520780208
>Fuck foxes
Anon no! That's what they want!
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How "monster" do you like your "girls"?
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>>520785184
I mean, I'm okay with Xelvy's style of more abominable girls and stuff in a more teratophilia direction in general (just not fond of the other artists in the MGQ roster who lean in that direction).
So pretty monster, but cosplay monsters are good too.
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aww shit.. anyone had bug with Grandeur theater managed on 3rd route where he can't be interacted with?
wonder if there's a need to fix that...
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>>520780208
The fox calls your bluff.
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>>520785184
sauce
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>>520788361
You can reverse image search it, you know. Yandex was a bust for me, but google gave me it just fine.
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>>520788361
Lover From 28,000 Light-Years Away
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>>520788505
I also liked my master from that gaira.
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>>520788505
that shits peak
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>>520788505
Be honest, anons: would you? I wouldn't hesitate.
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>>520791863
Yes.
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>>520791863
I mean, obviously. Where do you think we are?
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>>520791863
She's not a glowing human woman so I see no danger.
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Typical monster girl
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Spoilers for route 3 I guess.

So, as you might know, many of noname npcs dialogues are structured in a very similar manner: Sentence 1. Sentence 2.
That's it.
What 3rd route does in some rare cases is very nice: its not just replace whole dialogue for an npc but takes Sentence 1 and replaces Sentence 2 with thematically relevant to 3rd route stuff.
E.g.:
in Grander Casino a Rich Woman says this in part 1:
>Rather than gamble, I prefer to watch how those men ruin themselves. Just by being here, I can see how various lives play out...
but in part 3, on 3rd route she says this:
>Rather than gamble, I prefer to watch how those men ruin themselves. But to end up witnessing the end of the world...
Even without mtl it's obviously very hard to catch that some npcs use halves of their old dialogues from previous parts.
I just think it's nice.
And, well, there are direct full reuses too, lol. Well, its obvious how dev process went: maps with all events were copied and then processed, removing\changing\adding stuff.
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>>520650445
Some progress has been made. Characters are as follows:
>Ven, descendant of the Archmage. Has the bloodline of a legendary hero but none of the talent. Is convinced that enough book smarts can counteract having no physical or social skills. Would be a Redditor in another life. Don't worry, he gets better.
>Miniel the lesser angel. Sent to guide Ven on a quest to defeat the Demon Queen. Has a single digit number of brain cells. Happy-go-lucky and naive, is only vaguely aware of sex. Will soon get very, VERY interested in it.
>Sheol, spawn of the last Demon Queen. Joins the party to beat up the current Demon Queen and take the throne. Bully. Smug ojou-sama with Napoleon complex. Failure of a daughter, incapable of backing up most of her boasting.
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>one of the sadistic girls actually does say it's all consensual
BASED

Alright bros. I finished Negotiation X Monster.
Kinda.
There is an extra version out there that hasn't been translated yet. And I think it's needed to give proper closure. There was a mysterious plotline with one of the girls and she is the sole one that doesn't participate in the end. Not sure if it's explored after I reload the file or I'll need to wait the update.
Opinions? Pretty fun. Really few murderwhores or weirder fetishes. Most girls are of light femdom kind. The game tends to warn you in bold red letters if there is going to be a kill, death or something weird save some exceptions.
The plot is that the Monster Girls have defeated Humanity in a war long ago estabilishing a ''sacrifice'' system. Humanity would periodically have to let go of about 10 men for them to be used for pleasure or procreation. Our MC Toa is trying to escape back home, which is accepted under the condition he gets signatures of the 4 monsters overseeing the most developed areas.
And that's basically what kickstarts all the subplots because those administrators are doing a really bad job so to get a signature you have to either fix their problems or go through the consequences of it one of the retards even gets usurped before we can gather her sig
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Kek. I just found out that the BlackSouls TvTropes page was banned, apparently for containing sexual content, even though Redo Healer still has a page there. Well, the MGQ page was also deleted a long time ago.
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>>520819896
I don't really understand why another anon disliked the ending. I assume I actually nailed all the conditions for the True End straight away and there were multiple.
It isn't even one of those bittersweet apart endings like how 62 Studio does rather while Toa DOES return back home after a heartful goodbye, he comes back to the monster girl kingdom 2 weeks later, this time as a proper representative of humanity to ''Negotiate with Monsters'' a better system for coexistence so I don't really have much to complain. Midway through this likely became his actual goal to come back to his land.

So yeah, fun enough, I liked the art, and recommend it
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>>520820038
Oh I know about that. I think TvTropes had purged most pages of stuff sexual (with biased exceptions like Fate/Stay Night).
That said, I also remember MGQ and LustGrimm had tropes pages in a different site instead. All the Tropes I believe? Perhaps BS' page is there
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>>520813742
So you can actually wipe out the monster scourge in this game not have it tell you to feel bad about it?
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>>520824529
Not sure. It seems I triggered all conditions for the true end by being an exploration addict so I’m railroaded in this path.
I assume if I failed somewhere the monster girl kind would have been exterminated.
Well, I can try to redo the bossfight maybe if I lose early on yhe resuls would be different but I can’t do that now too many eyes and people roaming the house that don’t knock before entering
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>>520821348
>check for myself
>apparently 20~ish users were having a long discussion about the game and whether-or-not to delete it
>end up coming to the consensus that as the game is perfectly playable without ever seeing the H-Scenes and they can always be disabled or barred, it would be perfectly fine to keep the game
>users are happy with this
>contact a Mod to let them know they'd like to keep it and just scrub out the H-Content
>Mod immediately bans the entire game instead because of "child rape" with no elaboration
>"There is no room for debate"
>User asks them to at least consider everything that was said
>Instantly banned
>Another user comments
>Reply deleted, also instantly banned
>"anyone who continues to argue about this is also getting banned"
>First user contacts mods to try and appeal the ban
>Appeal was immediately denied because by asking to keep the game "(you) were supporting pedophilia"
>Redo Healer/Made In Abyss/Berserk/etc etc etc is still allowed though

Given some of the overtly PC and toned-down edits I've seen made over the years I'm not too surprised but this is the first time I ever actually looked at one of their 'threads' and it's no wonder the place went to shit, the mods are just a bunch of morally grandstanding faggots.
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>>520826401
Well sounds like reddit. Probably an intersection.
It isn’t uncommon for a popular game to actually have a sizeable normal playerbase. But an extremely loud vocal minority that will exploit auto-deletion by reports or some mentally ill person with no life rising to the position of moderator and doing whatever the fuck her wants.
Warframe is like that. People were getting banned for talking about Jade because troons seethed at a pregnant straight woman. And then we they got rid of that mod the replacement plastered over “trans rights are people’s rights” on their community banner to “show” they aren’t transphobic by banning that person and the tyranny stayed, just changed names.

Well adjusted people never stay as mods for long in those sites because they all eventually have better things to do. While those fuckers have the rush of power from banning people be the best thing they can ever do
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Just did it and it makes you feel bad though she tells you not to:
The Administrator reveals that human semen is the trigger for the mechanism, a sort of chessboard that each pieces represent a species and she gives the MC a handjob while pointing at the pieces. The MC tries hard not to cum, but she says she had already prepared everything to restrain him in place. She even tells him it really isn't his fault, she is in full control, he shouldn't blame himself for this while she forces him to cum on the chessboard. At the end of it the MC's spirit is metaphorically shattered, he isn't even bothering anymore with anything, she makes him cum over her own piece and gratefully embraces the freedom of death. That's it.
I think the trick between Bad End and True End is making a friendship with a member of each species in the game because in the end of the bossfight she releases a bunch of attacks dealing 9999 damage, but it's due to the friendship that my MC tanked and rose again, so I guess other people that played this missed one girl or another, the 9999 attack was a sure kill, they came all over the place and everyone died
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>>520819896
>>520820627
I find this art really off-putting. RPGMaker default assets, much lower resolution sprites and then highly detailed key art, which I assume is AI generated. The missmatch is really distracting me.


>>520829823
>genocide handjob
Man this genre really has wild fetishes. You're all gonna be put to sleep by my game.
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>>520833965
Nah, the artist is actually one that worked in other games already. Some of 62 Studio, some elsewhere like Carried by Big Girls and tends to do fanarts of, well, big girls of other games.
I agree it's weird they went for this pixelared gameboy color overworld.
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Spending time with Reina on a nice, cozy adventure again with all of her lovely new gifts really is something special anons
I may wish that I'd been able to give her all these things sooner, but watching her dance around and blow away enemies on these enjoyably relaxing quests we've got and simply have a time of it is the third most wonderful thing we've gotten to do together right after her fights with Chaos and having sex with her, my wife
>>520808025
I'm glad others were able to notice that as well, I thought it was a nice touch. They also change similarly depending on your progress and if you've finally saved the world or not. The life breathed into the world remains trtr's biggest strength indeed.
>>520809298
Glad to see your progress anon! I like what you've done so far, it's got a nice charm to it. I look forward to more!
>>520761983
Thanks anon! Glad to see you've continued to work on this, and actually managed to get it updated to 3.06 within less than a day.
>trtr changed the map button
kind of bizarre to do it this late, there's not much of a reason to
good to know if/when I get around to 3.06 though

As an aside, I have indeed started making a list of "specialist" traits trtr has created and their associated girls and functionality, from those that work as intended to those that he botched in one way or another.
I've completed the list for all girls with sticky thread traits and later in the day I'm going to attempt to correct their traits to work with the intended skill, repatch the game and then see if my attempts to fix this bug will work or not.
If it does work, I'll try to apply fixes like this to every other specialist trait present, or at least every single one that I'm able to find. Once I've done that (and made sure it works of course) I'll try to pass the actor folder over to you, so you and other anons could benefit from it. No promises yet, but I'm hopeful it'll work.
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>>520821348
>>520826401
TVTropes not having a page on MGQ is overall a good thing. The games don't need people that would use it.
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>>520837207
nta but honestly I'd agree, as others have said before any attempt to try and "clean up" MGQ would be doomed to failure anyways because there's always one fag who wants to ruin it for everyone else just to feel morally superior to others
it's better off without them
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>>520785184
I'm at the point as long as it has a feminine voice, man. I'm cooked.
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>>520797054
Surprisingly an enjoyable manga. Covers alot of fetishes, too.
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>>520838029
May I interest you in this chicken?
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>>520839201
Nice try, Anon. That's a boy chicken!
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Yes, it's time to discuss gay sex
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Am planing on playing Demons Roots but i heard that it's a series and the previous game is King exit. I couldn't find anywhere to play it in English, is there no way of doing that?
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>>520842524
Nyo....
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>>520842524
I don't want to.
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>>520842524
Just ask Toru. It's not gay if she's borrowing your dick
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>>520845012
Sounds like a complicated version of masturbation.
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>>520842524
Keep the monsters weak by making your load a bro-load.
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>>520842524
trtr really really wants to add it to the game, but is too cowardly to actually do it
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>>520845960
Only 7 Charms had the balls. Err, slug balls?
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>>520845960
>Hakunen becomes a marriage candidate before the Lilith sisters
In a hilarious world it would happen
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>>520842524
Luka not having a male rival has avoided the typical yaoi bait. Sorry anon, you are not getting your butt sex, unless you like futa.
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>>520845960
>trtr really really wants to add it to the game
he already did
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>>520847753
Are there canonical futas in the game? I don't remember any.
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>>520848392
Slugs, and fanon Sonya.
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>>520847829
So thats why the collab chars have a turn off pleasure attacks for extra stats skill

its not cuz maledom its to stop potential gay sex from happening
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>>520848392
riot
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>>520848392
twinkell the apoptosis adramelech, so the sonya headcanon may potentially be viable now and as the other anon said slugs
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>>520847829
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>>520847829
Heinrich would fit right in with most of the collab characters.
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>>520849340
Seems like collab characters fit in Heinrich just fine too.
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>>520847753
It's kind of funny that most of the attractive males in the game, collab not included, are blood related. Heinrich, Marcellus, and Nero are never going to be paired up with Luka.
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>>520849795
dumb question but since chaos is god does chaos choose to be a girl? since we are talking about gay sex i'd like to ask this.
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>>520850119
MGQ is pretty much a Shaktist cosmology so yeah probably.
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>>520847753
Luka had plenty of butt sex.
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>>520850775
>kills all plants
>humans enter mass starvation and population levels tank, eventually even the few wasteland nomads die due to suffocation
Great going there.
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>>520850119
>chaos is god
a lot of the confusion in the story is cleared up when you remember there's technically "two" chaos's that exist; one is the unintelligible will of chaos that makes up the fabric of reality and dictates the forces of the universe and the other is Luka's child who was born specifically to control said will of chaos in order to create someone strong enough to finally stop it from destroying everything, and also happens to be named Chaos. This is why all the original apoptosis look so haphazard or mashed together (the will was just randomly generating or smashing things together) while the ones after Chaos's birth are more streamlined and coherent (once directed by an intelligence, they began to get more focused and have more dedicated purposes). She's essentially just the tardwrangler for the will.

for the actual question though, she was born a girl, and could probably change it but doesn't, so i guess she 'chooses' to be a girl by just not choosing to be anything else.
since, well, why would she.
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The impenetrable ground of being is a man (me btw) and superior to chaos.
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>>520854264
>unintelligible will of chaos
This is a bit of a misnomer. Chaos itself only has as much of a "will" as gravity does. It has no intelligence, it just exists.
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>>520856840
That's pedantry.
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How do I get to the warehouse in AW Sabasa?
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>>520857559
oh nevermind
it's outside the castle
in the main sabasa area, a separate building
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>>520850775
Based Priestess was right again.
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>>520856883
Absolutely right. There are much better choices....
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>>520858202
I feel bad for her husband.
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>>520858367
I feel bad for every single husband of Port Natalia
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>>520858202
Not her either...
Is there any monster you can trust with this?
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Reporting In
Operation Insect-Aid is a go
I've successfully found and updated all six Thread Specialist Girls to have the correct skill ID
At the same time, I've decided to test a couple of other things out as well; since some Specialist Girls lack final skill equivalents I've decided to try and see if I'd also be able to add a skill instead of just changing one. The Stinging Tentacle Girls will require this to work to be able to fix them but since Honey has been such a great help in all this (also I like her a lot anyway) I've decided that she will be our test girl to try this out with first, since she has no final Stinger Skill normally. So instead she'll make the Gestalt Sickle dual-purpose as either a claw or stinger attack.
I also added her cut-in to it as well, since it'd be fun for her to have it. I added it to Honey's special Sorcery Skill as well, since I gave Reina her cut-in on Harpy Kick. If it works, Honey will be the first girl who lacked a final trait skill to benefit from gaining one at last.
i also came up with a funnier idea than what I did to Koron, but i'll cross that bridge when the patching is finished
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>>520858757
Mephisto is pretty honorable if she says she won't.
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I really hate that I tend to not lose in alot of the monstergirl game where you have sex at loss. Like for 7 Charms or Shift, I don't see shit for porn until you unlock it another way near the end of the game.

I really need to beat the last 7 Charms game so I can actually see sex scenes.
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>>520858757
I'm sure this grad student would make a great sex ed teacher!
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>>520858757
Neris
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What is most effective way to grind jobs/races? I farm Pandoras and Jar Purple Girl at Mimic Island with triple job ability, job max focus ability and triple exp from singing skill, that gives me about 15k job exp per Pandora/12k job exp per Jar Girl. There is so many jobs and races to max that doing this manually for larger number of characters is awfully unpractical. Trtr should implement auto train system, like daycare in Pokemons.
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>>520859964
Just buy seeds from Vanilla for anything before Forbidden. For Forbidden do the postgame colosseum tournament.
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>>520843000
Needs some race changing to be perfect.
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>>520860701
I could never get behind genderbender content. Rubs the wrinkles in my brain the wrong way.
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>>520858757
We just need somebody who's patient and gentle, but also firm and able to take control, right? There's a kind young lady named Nemea who would be perfect for this job.
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>>520859412
SUCCESS! It works!
All Thread Specialist Girls were successfully able to reapply their traits to the originally intended skill; no longer mistaking Divine Spider's Earth-Spanning Web for Divine Herbal Tea. The SP cost reductions and damage bonuses are now correctly applied to all of them!
In addition, Honey was also successfully able to power up her new final skill, now applying her trait to Gestalt Sickle and even displaying her cut-in and both lines (the one picked is random as normal) as well. No longer is Honey left behind, anons. Reina and I have successfully brought her forth into a bright new future, where hopefully more girls will soon join us!
The list of Specialist Girls I've documented so far is small but I'll comb through all 775 of them to find and arrange each category, and then go down them girl-by-girl to check their traits. If trtr can't be assed to lend a hand to all the girls in the game then I guess I will for him. If one group is fine then they'll be fine but any that suffer errors in a way I'll try and attend to. Progress on this will probably be slow, but now that I know with full confidence that I can successfully fix their issues I'm hopeful I'll be able to assist the girls who need it.

Finally, these girls can bee hapy....
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>>520847829
I'm now half tempted to have the collab heroes assrape all the male enemies to death.
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and now for today's prank contestant-
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Skunk anon is gonna die since there was no skunk girl in part 3.
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>>520862670
huh
well, it kinda worked
while I managed to reset everything she had back down to the most basic default level possible, it seems like since she joins with that class and race it's not possible for her not to have them, so she kept them anyway
also she kept dark insect for some reason but everything else worked fine; she's back to level 1 warrior as well for jobs. no longer cheated to only sit and watch at the very end, she can now fully have fun from the very beginning of the quest!
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>>520863445
Uhhh what? Do pre-requisite jobs/races no longer come mastered in part 3?
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>>520863445
She kept human, but lost the other Demonoid/archfiend pre-req races (Yoma, Demi-human, Vampire), huh.

Kept Doll for Apoptosis though.
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>>520863445
I know it's for gameplay reasons, because certain race class branches needs it. But it's weird as hell to see monsters with the basic human race in their kit.
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>>520864494
>Do pre-requisite jobs/races no longer come mastered in part 3
well, they're "supposed" to, but they don't always.
This isn't actually unique to Part 3 though, things like this even occurred back in Part 1. Ironically Rachura's also an example of that: she comes with Arachne as her starting race, but she doesn't have any levels in Magician despite mastery of both it and Insect being a requirement to become one normally. Mini also lacks a T4 Job she's supposed to have when she gets her power-up; in her case the job she's missing is one she really really benefits from so it's worth it to help her master it anyway.
>>520864554
Yeah, since those are only acquired through race changes it makes sense. She was probably born this way.
>I forgot what race she comes as
She joins as a Hero of Chaos Seraph, which is why she appears to still have those two: it seems like it couldn't prevent her from having either of them. Everything else seems to have worked fine though.
>>520864798
I agree, but since she's Luka's kid it makes sense with her at least. I'm guessing she could take on a human guise like Nero and Neris are able to if she wanted, but just doesn't.
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>>520865496
I think Bubs daughter says she only apotosized because she and her sisters jumped into Tarturus and fought there for a long while, getting corrupted in the process.
It was kind of odd that you needed doll for it in the beginning, since it seemed so random. Until you found out Chaos really was a little girl at heart, and loved her toys.
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>>520865496
>Yeah, since those are only acquired through race changes it makes sense. She was probably born this way.

Yeah but she comes with all those races I posted (aside from Super Archfiend which I changed her int). Kinda interesting to see that after a reset she loses Demonoid stuff, but not Apoptosis.

>>520866929
I thought she had apoptosis simply because EVERY random encounter recruit in the 3rd route comes with it.
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>perfectly normal human daughter
to be honest with you anons the permadeath-styled run's pretty much just turned into "Reina and whoever can autoguard" which this early has effectively caused her strongest/longest lasting teammates to only be insects, with the exception of Koron/Ragora/Soapy/Amara (who mostly survived purely from luck). I'll beat at least Adramelech with this specific challenge since we're over halfway to her, but I'm not sure if I'll continue it into Part 2.

Still, it was a fun experiment to try out at least and I knew what I was getting into with it. Plus a lot of the insects from Part 1 are surprisingly varied and fun to use, and work well with Harpies like Reina.
unfortunately trtr didn't keep up with any of them it seems like, but I mostly just feel sorry for Meru Meru who's really enjoyable to see and yet I know full well from looking at the actor list not only did trtr not continue to update her like he did in Parts 1 and 2 to keep up with her gimmick but said gimmick was also completely invalidated by Part 3 and her trait is just horrendously awful.

If I ever do another Race-Only Run it's probably going to be Insects at this point

>>520866929
that's kinda sad, but her world did get destroyed. they had no other choice.
I'm glad they (or at least some of them) were able to make it through to the end though.
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>>520869068
>I thought she had apoptosis simply because EVERY random encounter recruit in the 3rd route comes with it.
well, yes, but that's why she specifically has it
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>>520869829
I actually do like Insects myself, but I really found the insect skills kind of meh. Even with Ann's crisis mode, the damage just seemed alright, and nothing really ground breaking.
And this is with every Race skill booster imaginable applied.
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>>520871509
>with few exceptions defense buffs are half their nondefensive counterparts in part 3
>no generic conditionals for everyone
They were okay before because of the triple cast buff skill but now they're in a really sad state by the part 3 nerfs and buffs. It's similar to Yamata no Orochi being better now from the monster job but the same buffs make Caesar more OP lol.
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>>520871509
Hmm. I wonder if I could make them perform any better if I get there......I remember Vanessa doing absurd amounts of damage in Part 2, but her trait got nerfed in 2.41 so she doesn't hit as hard anymore. I doubt they'd ever hit as hard as Reina does though. Reina benefits a lot because Wing has many sources of power boosts by the endgame; comparatively I'd imagine Insect probably only has a few or so (at least once removing all the ones that don't stack with each other). Empty Sky is also just, well, absurdly awesome.

Insects could always hit fairly hard with their racial skills (and currently this run they're doing so as well), but the reason their skills were so good was never for damage itself. It's just because auto-guard is really, really good to have innately. And when you're on Paradox you really feel that automatic 1/8th damage reduction when the "1" you're taking is still nearly half of someone's health.
also it's probably going to be possible to scale their defensive stats so far up that they functionally become immune to damage; Quetzalcoatl was literally impossible for Goddess to kill during their fight in the Harpy Only Run because her Willpower was so absurdly high that she became impervious to harm from her and could pretty much just sit on Sub-Sub-Illass and heal/buff the rest of her team with impunity. They'd probably only struggle with skills that ignore defense but, well, the autoguard would still exist.
Having racial deflectors and x3 skill activation is pretty solid too. I'm sure I could make at least one bug girl work with them.
>>520872386
They did manage to get generic conditionals for all Insect Skills, but they require you to level Ruin Event like a lot of other species do to get them.
I still have no idea what the hell made trtr think that nerfing the defensive buffs was a good idea though; it's just pure nonsense.

Honey came with something that still gives the original +50% at least....
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>>520874887
How could you. Morrigan is a sympathetic character!
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>>520874887
What program are you using?
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>>520835562
>kind of bizarre to do it this late
I'd say it's groundwork. Maybe something will be done with that freed button in the future.

In 3.06 there was a script method added - `enchant_shop`. Not tied to anything yet. Who knows what could it be in the future.
Other new thing, mull it in your head, `action_minus`. Before, in the game there was only additional actions. But now count can go down. Again, it not tied to anything yet, so no bosses would reduce action count with party-wide debuff. Yet?
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>>520877436
>action_minus
You're getting me all excited anon, what new challengers will we face that may use such a thing? Reina will be eager for such a wonderful challenge! I look forward to seeing if anything comes of that. It sounds really awesome. Part 3 definitely didn't disappoint with the bosses.

Oh also while I've got you, I was actually able to fix all the thread specialist girls to make their traits identify the correct skill, so that error's something I was able to fix. I'm going start categorizing the other specialists and see if I can find any other girls who's traits have any issues as well.
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Paradox is in fullscreen mode (without Magpie) now, and I don't know how to fix it...
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>>520869829
Not sad. Her mother is responsible for genocide
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>>520878559
Sure, i saw it. Spiders stuff from glance for what you mentioned started with Demo, there was those additions of 9+k skills and those skill numbers also appeared in Actors too.
Daunting task, so good luck and have fun with it.
>>520878989
F5. F6 changes window size.
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Cute daughters
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>humans are considered the smartest and most intelligent creatures
>source humans
Hmmm.
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>>520879862
Part 3 DLC will have a Metahuman/Choujin race for HUMAN-CHADS and the super boss will also be a human more powerful than chaos.
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>>520879702
Never turn your back on a monstergirl, even if they are kin.
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>>520880557
Especially when they have an ovipositor
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>>520879702
how old is luka again? (minus time spent in chaos)
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>>520882901
Trtr admitted in the Q&As he deliberately avoids saying Luka's actual age. Closest thing we got is that baptism is supposed to be a coming of age ceremony so he's considered a young adult in his culture.
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>>520881013
That's why you never lewd insects, Anon.
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>>520884221
Because it leads to insect incest?
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>>520882901
For the right price, he's whatever age you want him to be>>520843000
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>>520879214
i hadn't seen that, and i do hate that
that's not the good daughter though
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Part 4: Lukalypse
Rise of the Father Fuckers, an entire faction of Luka's otherworldly daughters, lead by the most vicious known being in the galaxy, Neris
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Cat Sith is just ridiculous.
TRTR why.
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>>520858757
do you care about the age of the chicken nuggies you ate? NO!

so monsters prolly think similarly in some fashion
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>>520884191
by young adult you mean barely legal cuz also according to the qna the vn takes place over the course of a few months...
but factor in all we know is he is younger than alice whom is 21, he is most likely a teenager just not specifying what age, also some people consider him a shota others do not.
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out of all places for albert to find a home it's f*cking reddit of all things.
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>>520896709
It's the most logical destination for him, "haters" get downvoted into oblivion and he gets the echo chamber of positivity he always wanted.
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>>520894690
so alice is a predator? a pedophile?
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It's over. I've finished part 3, thought I will not live the day. Incredible how one dev can put whole industry to shame. How much truth is there to rumor that MGQ Paradox is a one-man made game?.
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>>520898810
>It's over. I've finished part 3
Sore wa dou kanna?
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>Black Alice's Mansion
why
why why why why
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>>520902673
It's fine though?
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Is Tamamo the only ancestor that likes to fuck for pleasure? the other 5 seem only interested in it as eating rather than feeling good well one of those 5 seems to do it out of obligation rather than being horny or hungry and as far as I know all of the archeangels view it as punishment then again Ive never seen any of their scenes
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>>520898371
shes a predator she eats people dude.
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>>520906071
All monstergirls eat billions of tiny people
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>>520906576
yeah and they dont care what age the food is.
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>>520906890
I wish I was Hiruko's 1000 year old husband...
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>>520897573
TDX really gave us great art. And better animated scenes, to boot.
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Forgot image.
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So, is Paradox like the end of MGQ, or will there still be more future games made in the universe?
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>>520924501
I have to imagine the end, I doubt they'd want to do more after how insane this project was
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>>520924501
trtr will work on a school setting spinoff next
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>>520924765
>trtr will work on a school setting spinoff next
So that is why we're getting these Shiki JKs...
(I love this position by the way.)
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Does anon have any idea what kind of pose Refletsia's doing? At first it looks just off, but now, ain't she just crossing her left leg? Kinda annoying we cannot see the full thing.
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>>520925419
...Holy shit? It all makes so much sense now.
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>>520898810
Congrats anon, glad you had a fun ride.
considering the amount of errors that came up in Part 3 which would've easily been fixed or at least caught sooner had he been working with at least one other person i fully believe trtr really did make the entire thing by himself
and even with all the errors that popped up the guy made a bloody magnum opus
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>>520924501
I'm sure that he mentioned somewhere that he wanted to stop doing mgq stuff after paradox since it has been too big of a project.
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>>520924501
he's been working on MGQ for like 15 years now, i imagine he wants to do something else
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>>520858202
where can i find this cheating bitch in part 3(chaos route)?
Same as our belzebub daughter?
>>520916492
and funny enough if you impress or hiruko likes you she will create a clone of her to be with you forever like these guys we see in ilias' route, so yeah your dream might come true anon?
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>>520940128
Not really sure, but if I had to guess, maybe you'll find her when Port Natalia gets attacked by the Cthulhu minions

Also respect for Meia, she basically went to buy Luka's milk and never came back to her husband.
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Cat just jumped in my lap, made herself comfortable and started purring.
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>>520940128
She's just in the castle anon
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>>520943738
Okay, but quick question. Why haven't you already started running?
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>>520924501
There might be more gacha collabs and stuff, but no more MGQ games made by TRTR. Think he said his next plan is something involving 3 rival eldritch cults or something. Still, Paradox has some big updates left to go, notably NG++/4th route/whatever it's being called, and an update to the LoC. Also likely a couple more minor ones, such as yet more ring candidates.

If he's smart, he's going to be well aware almost nothing he does can be as big as MGQ, so even if he doesn't want to do more work on it after the final Paradox update, more collabs and stuff will happen.
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>>520667792
Hello.
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>>520947376
Ah shit, seems like Luka and his daughter need to fix reality again.
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>>520947376
How were you supposed to summon the white succubus again?
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>Insects have multiple sub-categories for their unique racial skills
>Stinger, Thread, and Draining Skills have girls who specialize in them, and yet lack T5 counterparts
>No girls specialize in Sickle/Scythe, Sonic Wave, Leg or Whip Skills
>They get T5 counterparts instead
trtr why
for what purpose have you done this
even the Mantis Girls only give bonuses to the actual weapon-based Scythe Skills and not the Insect ones
I'm sure I'll find more things like this later on that'll also bug the hell out of me

Given the descriptions and limited distribution of these traits, would anons here think it a good or at least reasonable idea to try and condense some of these groups down to benefit the traits of these girls?
The only method I can really think of for 95% of these girls to actually perform the whip attacks would be by using and hardening long strands of thread, so having the whip skills be silk whips and grouping them with all the other thread skills would both fill out all remaining holes in the power distribution for the thread skills and give those girls a final skill to use it with. Likewise, there's only two girls in the game who use Stingers: Honey and Scarlet. The former mentions the power of a Queen Bee's Claws/Stinger when she uses the Sickle Skills (which Stingers have the shape of anyway) and the latter is, well, a giant Scorpion. Grouping those two skill categories together to give them both Stinger and Sickle Skills will also similarly fill in all missing holes for them as well.
But if I want to eventually share this "updated" version of the Actor List with the thread I want to also make sure that any personal changes I make are ones people would agree with, rather than just forcing them onto everyone.

Also, it turned out the Draining Specialists happened to be missing TWO skills from their traits this time, rather than just one like the Thread Girls.
trtr for the love of god please double-check your work
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>>520940128
>Same as our belzebub daughter?
Final dungeon.
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A bub can reproduce 10K daughters mating with a single man in one year.
According to Luka's bub daughter, there are millions of Luka-bubs. How many years did Luka spend birthing them?! The math doesn't make sense.
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>>520951652
>Given the descriptions and limited distribution of these traits, would anons here think it a good or at least reasonable idea to try and condense some of these groups down to benefit the traits of these girls?
what?
one thing is changin wrong number to reasonable one. this on other hand is too esotheric, barely understand what do you mean
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>>520955169
>this on the other hand is too esoteric, I barely understand what do you mean
I mean, I tried to give an explanation after that to clarify what I was talking about, but if it ended up too confusing I apologize for not wording it better. Sorry about that. Let me try again:

The girls with focused traits suffer in some cases by having too small a number of skills in some cases. But some of the other insect skills would reasonably fit them.
For example, the "gleaming whip" skills are probably done by using hardened silk to made a whip, so I could add the two Whip skills to the traits of the Thread Girls. This gives them a skill for each category of power (they are missing both a SS and Z+ level skill), which would allow their traits to still hold up by the endgame instead of completely falling off.

Essentially I'd be giving the girls with these traits the [Z+] powered skill (and some supplementary ones) they otherwise lack so they don't end up falling behind, as long as they still fit with the trait's intended theme itself. Given how many Girls from Part Three have unconditional +50% to even +100% universal power boosts, it would help them remain relevant, at least for those who'd like to use them. I'm just using Arachne Girls as an example here since the Thread Specialists are who I ended up fixing first.
I wouldn't be able to do this for all Girls, but I could try to do it for some of them. I just thought I'd ask if other anons would want that.
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>>520954987
you have to consider there are three Bubs and not just one
>>520955169
>ESL
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>>520957520
>you have to consider there are three Bubs and not just one
Three bubs but one butthole.
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>>520951652
Insects girls got it rough.
Maybe the amount of sub categories caused the race to end up as a clusterfuck of bugs and shitty coding.
TrTr probably lost track because there are like 5 different "insects" to remember. Astrophes because some of them aren't actually insects.
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>>520957520
I did get a little wordy while trying to clarify so it might be on me
>>520957832
They definitely do, it’s pretty harsh
There’s others who struggle even more due to trtr not keeping up with their unique leveling gimmicks, but as a whole I think Insects probably have the most “sub-categories” of all the racial skills and it ended up becoming a mess for trtr to keep up with as a result. There’s at least ten different Insect Girls who he ended up leaving behind, and two are from Part 3 even. The situation surrounding Hive Mind/Baal Zebub probably didn’t help either.
As an aside while looking through the code I found there’s empty data for what appears to be an unused insect race; given it’s between the queen and T4 my assumption is it was probably meant for the Bubs and got cut because it was already getting clustered.
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>>520958905
Are there any insects that have a boost in sound attacks? I remember a lot of the part 3 insect skills have a sonic attribute, akong with galaxtic, but i don't remember if girl had a boost for that damage type
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>>520962361
There are more fingers on your hand than girls that boost sound.
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>>520820038
>>520826401
>>520837207
>>520837464
Funny thing is that looking it up, it made me realize that it's probably a good thing MGQ didn't have one.
But Tvtropes being hypocrites isn't new.
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>>520947376
Karmaaaaaa
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>>520691701
Reminder that Idea Lukas is simultaneously:
Luka
Luka's Father
Luka's Ancestor
And Luka's grandson.
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>>520966632
>And Luka's grandson.
Who are the mother and grandmother?
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>>520967221
>Who are the mother
Luka's Daughter.

>grandmother
Luka's Mother. (Who is married to Luka's Father)
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>>520967221
It can't be Nero, he's too autistic about fighting to care about making children.
So it must be Neris.
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>>520967524
Wait. Luka fucked his own mom and his son fucked his daughter producing his grandson?
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>>520947208
It's unfortunate that even a big name as MGQ won't have made him enough to soft retire like CA with Stardew Valley. Soft retiring in the sense that he could work on a passion project taking his time as much as he needs and sometimes coming back to the big one making some updates here and there.
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>>520967637
>>520969263
You are runing my Vergil joke.
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>>520947376
Still remains the best ending to a sex scene to this day,
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>>520972214
Japanese are salaryman to the day they die. NEETs are looked down upon because they're anti-thesis of what being a japanese is about.
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>>520950850
Die a bunch of times, record a conversation between Myusca and Vinum but for the fucking life of me I don't know where or when to do this anymore somebody help, then pick up her book and cum on it.
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>>520962361
Insects have a surprising number of sonic attacks, which is something that helps them be respectably strong due to the good variety of damage types they've got. However, not only do no Insect Girls have specialist traits that provide bonuses to their microwave shell and sonic wave attacks, they have no girls that provide any bonus to sonic damage at all.
To be fair though this isn't 'really' an insect problem. >>520964962 isn't an exaggeration; having searched it myself the only number I was able to find for them was three.
And two of them are from Part 3.

I wish one of the Insect Girls did get to specialize in them though; they're some of the coolest attacks they have.

In any case I've gone in and updated the Draining Specialist Girls to fix their traits; they now correctly identify all of the HP-Draining Insect Skills that trtr forgot to include for them (which was two out of four, but that still means they were missing half) and hopefully will work properly. Shesta's trait was a bit messily written as well: I think I was able to neaten up the part of her that reduced the SP cost but I'll have to make sure it works.

I won't change the Thread or Stinger Girls to have additions yet though, partially because I don't want to end up confusing some anons and partially because I'm still thinking of what exactly I'd want to do for Honey if I did do that. Scarlet's obvious, at least.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqAsoyl271c
KILL KILL KILL THE FOX!
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I could use some input from you guys. Working on the Sylph monster/class for my game, a wind-elemental caster with a defensive bent. Cut a different Wind monster, so now I've got two designs:

>A: Cat-harpy. Ears and tail, claws, wing-arms, small wings. Uses normal humanoid animation set like the other harpies
>B: Cloud-sheep. Curled horns and sheep ears, has bunch of clouds that act as clothing. Uses the floating animation set from the faires.

I like both designs equally, and they'll be equally a pain in the ass to implement, so I'm at a loss which one to implement.

>>520979950
Nioh was fun, but I never had the patience to grind out a full build.
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>>520980754
Cloud sheep is better!
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Also another bit of fun datamining; all other Calamities have a trait that boosts skills which they or their race are associated with; even Echidna follows this. And Baal Zebub's associated with insect/time magic/psychic/unarmed skills so you'd expect her to boost them.
Yet Baal Zebub's trait instead focuses on Insect, Clubs and Black Magic. It didn't make sense to me at first.
But while this doesn't match the other Calamities, her trait follows the same pattern the three Beelzebub Queens do: each has a trait that focuses on a weapon, Black Magic, and Insect Skills, with each having their own weapons of choice: Swords/Bows/Staves (White Magic). BZ's trait fits with them perfectly, rounding them out with Clubs.
Also for fun, Gestalt and Hivemind have dialogue that talks about assimilation; how they got a woman or some insects into the Hivemind. What does Baal Zebub/"Hive Mind" talk about?
How she was on a boat, with her followers.
And that there's a haunted painting with a sister in it. All the other Bubs talk about ghost stories as well.
I know it's already kind of obvious she wasn't originally meant to be the Hive Mind, but I think Baal Zebub was actually made/finished early enough that trtr had even completed her skill dialogues before her rewrite took place, and just never went back to update her call-outs accordingly. She might even have been intended to be fought or encountered around the Ship, judging from this, or perhaps was still fought on a deserted island in a different circumstance.
I think this might honestly be part of why trtr had her be the only Calamity not to die: she probably wasn't ever intended to in the first place, and was likely meant to be recruited after a fight/sidequest in her original role. When repurposed, trtr probably didn't have the heart to commit to her death (remember he thought divorce was too cruel and rewrote Chaos to give her a happier ending), so he ended up having her defeated in another way that left her pacified.
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>human and beast girls get along best
>Scientists bring back dire wolves after 12,500 years of extinction
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6n4DUMUWsI
Not even death....no...not even extinction can separate man from dogs
How can others monsters even physically compete?
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>>520985592
Well, I'll always be quite curious about the mysteries surrounding her and the insect tribe, but I suppose at the end of the day she's not entirely wrong.
It doesn't really matter what 'was' planned to be. Only what 'is' true now.
And what's true for her now is her becoming cripplingly depressed and mind-broken after being mentally connected to Priestess with no filter, causing her to become a shut-in terrified of the rest of the world in the same way Barbarella and her Sisters attempted to invade the mainland after escaping from the ghost ship only to be so horrified at the modern day world that they essentially forced themselves inside of the pocket castle in a desperate attempt to escape it.
Oof.
Hopefully we can make it up to her at some point. I just feel bad.

>>520980754
Awesome art, I really like those lines!
As for the girls, I like them both, but I think the Cloud Sheep is the superior of the two. The Cat-Harpy is a fun idea for sure, and I like her, but she looks more like a typical nekomata with a pair of wings on the back over a avian-feline hybrid. The Cloud Sheep has a much more refined design and a really nice concept that feels like it fits a sheep nicely.
Glad to see your progress anon!
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>>520985592
Wow, I think you found the smoking gun there anon. But where would she have been placed though? Would the haunted ship in the chaos route have been where she was supposed to be originally, and not Alice 10th? Maybe Konstanz was supposed to get her shit wrecked by her instead?
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>>520987692
>Original World: TBD, Bub Suffering
>Singularity World: Mind Broken by Culture Shock, Bub Suffering
>Angelic World: Life In Prison, Bub Suffering
>Monster World: Cut Entirely, Bub Suffering
>United World: Catatonic Depression, Bub Suffering
>Bub World: Wiped From Existence, Bub Suffering
if the universe loves constants then the suffering of flies is an unchanging law
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>>520985987
This has already happened before, it's a nothingburger.
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>>520989116
As far as I can tell it's rather dishonest anyway.
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>>520989223
Yeah, typical pop-sci stuff.
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I should be testing this myself, but maybe some anon already did it. When it comes to the abilities that have random spells/skills cast during battle start and counters, does the skill selected come from a list of skills that character has, or a list they should have?
In other words, if I erase all the summon spells except for the red dragon on a character, will the dragon always be used after a dodge or beginning the battle?
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>>520989428
They're preset lists. You'll have nonstop dancing and singing randomly use racial songs, but never Forbidden ones like timestop dance or +4 hit count.
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>>520966632
and a part of Luka's Daughter.
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>>520988276
Thanks! I'm glad to find some more concrete proof to back up my thoughts beyond creation dates at least.
While it's certain now that she was supposed to just be the Original Beelzebub funnily enough Barbarella's trait is "Yellow Fly Queen" while the other two have "Red Fly Queen" and "Blue Fly Queen" despite Barbarella being blackish-purple in color, it's still difficult to say where she was supposed to actually be encountered.
It's possible she was intended to be the original boss on the Ship in the Third Route, but it's also possible she might've been meant for the MW. She may have been sealed on the Ship in that timeline, or imprisoned otherwise. Given the danger the Bubs posed however she wouldn't have been out-of-place if the original premise of the Third Route was supposed to be a full-on reality crash where instead of the worlds being merged together, all of time and reality just started folding in on itself and the past and future began recurring again. Koron and Angolmois were foreshadowed as early as Part 2, so in such a scenario they would've easily had a means to show up without needing to be dragged there manually or capable of dimensional travel on their own. Likewise, Baal Zebub would've just manifested in her prime from the past.
She could honestly fit into either route. Maybe she'd even have been treated like Cosmos was, getting a preview fight in MW and then the real battle in CW.

Also, hilariously, despite her trait boosting Club skills she has literally zero unique call out lines with them. She only has a singular generic one for all of them.
But she does have a long list of very specific call outs for all the (weapon) whip skills. Maybe she was originally supposed to specialize in whips before trtr decided to change her to clubs?
>>520989428
They use preset lists containing all skills in the game, regardless of whether you know them or not.
Even character-unique ones can appear.
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>>520990946
Featuring Luka.
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>>520990841
Oh well, too bad.
Guess TrTr didn't want the skill deletion to be used for that manner. Berserk characters are the only good thing about it still.
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>>520990841
Actually, you can call up the +4 Hit Count Song with it, it's just rare since there's so many songs that get pulled up on a whim. But Reina's used that ability to get the hit count buff on her team numerous times. Timestop Dance seems to be one of the only exceptions, which I think was done because it might freeze a player's team members without them wanting it to happen.
>>520991415
it does allow you to use things you either don't have access to or can't otherwise use at least, which can be handy.
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What the fuck is in the Lilith ranch humans to make their happiness milk give 1500 favorability points? Even Luka's cum isn't that good.
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>>520992726
Hundreds of years of selective breeding and chemicals to maximize semen quality.
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>>520992726
I think Lilith actually says it.
Only the best males in her employment are used to create it. Which I suppose means, Luka isn't the richest semen dispenser in the world.
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>>520992726
>>520993414
>>520993440
>Scientific Research into Semen Quality has made the Luka obsolete
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>>520985592
Guess that answers the mystery of the out of year Setouchi design. She really was supposed to be some sort Bub, maybe the original ancestor Bub in the MW, since we do see a ton of extinct monster girl species in the Ilias route.
Out of curiosity, does the NLK have any weird dialogue that hints at a early design? Outside of Echidna, NotChrome has the most bizarre datamined info, since she is called Dragonbone.
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>>520980754
Sheep
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Given how many wiped-out species are walking around in the MW she really would've fit in with them yeah. Since Barbarella's title is the Yellow Fly Queen she might've been the mother of the three sisters sealed on the ship, or at least that may have been her title first and was taken by her successor as Barbarella does seem to be the nominate 'leader' of the remaining Bubs.
>Out of curiosity, does the NLK have any weird dialogue that hints at a early design?
I went to check her again for you anon, but sadly, no. She's just as boring as I'd remembered her being.
2119 - 2122 is Interesting Story, Erotic Story, Scary Story and Cold Gag respectively. NLK just talks about the river in Yomi, necrophilia, and apparently she's afraid of dogs.
Given the seemingly unused alternate design of Shirome in the files, I'm assuming whoever 'Dragonbone' was supposed to be originally was cut early enough that there's nothing left of her original concept in her script files at least. Both originate from 2019, which is when the first two routes seemed more-or-less finished and the third one appeared to be in the rough draft phase.


......although, you HAVE reminded me of something else I found. Echidna follows the same rules as other calamities regarding traits (boosting all her associated boss and racial skills), but some of her dialogue is......incredibly bizarre. A lot of it is also one-note (to a tiring degree) but her talk dialogue is almost surreal. I get one is a reference to "Phantom of the Opera" but i would never have expected her to be the one referencing it. More importantly
>A friend picked up that meteorite...
It's such an out of place thing for her to say, considering she's microscopic and living snake aids. Who's she talking about? Did she come from space? Or is this also an orphaned reference to something now cut?
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>>521001005
meant to reply to >>520995881, my bad

Also while I'm sharing datamining over debating about if I should give anything extra to some of the bugs, here's something else that's fun
Father of Chaos predates "Runaway Luka" by almost two years. Considering the original cut-in for Luka using Logos Magia didn't even have him in the White Rabbit get-up but instead in his completely normal outfit, he might not have originally had it, or at least the WR-Luka may have served a different purpose originally.
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>>521001005
I think the NLK was always going to be Chrome, since Un-Do did make another purple skinned midget.
But I think the reason why she was called Dragonbone, was that the body was possessed by the dragon body parts put onto Chrome's corpse.
It just seems really odd to name a monster out of the skinless bones it has without them being the most important part of the design.
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>>521002923
I think she was supposed to be for a counterpart quest in the AW honestly. But NLK had a reference in Part 2's LoC and I do think Chrome was always going to end up fighting it.
I think he just ended up reusing the design meant originally for something different for it once he started getting pressed for time and already making cuts, which is why the filename is so odd. It's probably what she was originally called.
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Which monster would be the MOST likely to make fun of penis, but never would until AFTER marriage?
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>>520988924
All is right with the land.
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I finished part 3 but I still have this side quest ''opened'' for Rami. Is this a bug? I went with her to Harpy village and nothing happens.
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>>521011328
Talk to the one in the Inn.
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>forced to work in horrible slave labor until Lucretia set her people free
>laughs at you for thinking she sings for fun or greetings
>worked in information broking
>took another sparrow girl's job at one point
>violently attacks other sparrow girls
>got involved in a rebel organization
>watches everybody else sleeping in order to "find their weaknesses"
>and somehow I still never saw her say this
I'm starting to think Chirp might secretly be even more unhinged than ACTUAL sparrows are (which is a fucking accomplishment jesus christ) and is just really really good at hiding it
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>>520995856
Those idiots need the guidance of Angels.
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>>520985592
Neat.

Don't suppose you'd be willing to list out the traits all the calamities have?

And I wonder if any of them will be changed when they're actually recruited, like how Granberia's datamined trait originally had pleasure weakness that cannot be reduced, but that was removed with the actual release of part 3.
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>>520954987
When Luka-bub refers to "sisters", it doesn't necessarily mean sisters in the literal sense. It could simply mean that fellow bub is referred to as a sister. They are considered dangerous for overpopulating. Luka's daughters went out and procreated.
10000 x 10000 means millions. While another 10000 Luka-bubs are in the making.
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>>520753262
in.
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>>521021825
ngl that smug face and the context of her h-scene...
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>>521021825
>>521023585
I'm gonna go cave diving anons. Wish me luck.
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>>521023585
>>521023847
Smug and Smirking Tag works really well with certain characters and WaiNSFW checkpoint.
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>>521015068
>I wonder if any of them will be changed when they're actually recruited
the only one I would think that'd happen to probably is Baal Zebub, if only just on the offchance that trtr wants to readjust her to fit her new role better. Beyond that they probably don't need it. Every Calamity has a +100% Power Boost in their associated skills, the majority of them also boost elements, and all of them also have double actions, except for two of them who get triple action instead.

As an aside, I forgot that the Beelzebubs also have a shared trait of allowing their eligible skills (as in the ones that don't use it) to all scale off of their primary stat: Barbarella with attack, Striga with dexterity and Media with magic.
Baal Zebub actually has the same thing; she makes clubs and black magic scale off her defense. Hilariously she actually has her cut-in on the signature T5 Insect Time Magic Skill that cannot benefit from this (she also has it on every single Insect Skill, but Overmind is the only magic attack she also gets it with).

I can try to string together all the Calamity Traits if you like anon, but given that's probably going to be 19~20 traits stacked on top of each other (putting aside the Warring Triad, Cosmos actually has two forms) it might be easier to just look at the library file itself at that point. Koron's still traveling with me and Reina though, so I can easily nab hers too without having to dig if you want.
she actually did get her trait changed between versions, but it was a nerf that removed her ability to bypass physical/carnage resistances. Given how absurdly overpowered she is though she honestly doesn't need that anyway.
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>>521021825
>Witch is canonically the horniest monster in the entire world
It honestly explains a lot
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>>520955169
there's some irony to how barely legible that complaint about legibility is
the anon was just saying "I can give these girls more skills for their traits y/n"
>>520957093
>and everyone will still just be using FOC/Chaos/Alice/Ilias/etc
just do what you want, I don't really think anyone cares if a part 1 girl does a little more damage with a skill when any part 3 girl will still be dealing more damage than them anyways
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>Berry talks about slashing down Monster Lord's enemies
shut the fuck up you should have joined long time ago whats even the point now
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>>521032784
Berry is smart and knows that if you're recruited later the more powerful you may be. Be like Berry.
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Do numbers exist solely to count something? ̶̢̗̠̭̭̄̓̏Ĩ̶͍̠̱͙͉́ ̵̛̝̬͈͎̪̩̮̄̈́̃̚ͅd̷̟͒̂͂̚ǫ̸̖̭̘͇̦̍̔̈́̈̃̕ͅñ̷̡͛̑̂̓̃͠͝'̸̠͖́̉̀̕̕t̷̗̫̪̜̯̬͓͛̆̔̃͋̿͑͜ ̸̢̢̛͈͚̤̞̣͛̓͒͒͗͜t̸̛͉̬̖͕͈̬̓̿̄̽͜h̵̛͉̜̹͐͑́̓i̶̢̨̜̩̋͌͗̑̐͝n̴̨̡̻̝̙̣̒͝k̷͇̞̺͎̪̓̂̆̾͊̚͘͜͠ ̸̛̻̻̃̀͊̀͠s̸̳̝̈̓̄͘͝ȍ̷͚͐̌̎̉̂̋͐.̷̹̝̭͕̫͈̀́͋͆̈́̽̀̽
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>>521028650
until ng++ comes around and flips that on its fucking head.
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DO YOU REMEMBER IN YOUR CHILDHOOD
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>>521043914
stinky
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Last time I played Paradox, the translation stopped in part 2 at around the monster lords castle.
Is it worth playing the newest version, or should I just wait for the TL to be complete?
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>>521056160
the mtl is fine, unless you want to wait another year or two
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>Koron's seduction attack
Dangerous! Way to dangerous even if she's a battle hungry maniac she still acts like a typical monster or angel when cornered!
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>>521065817
I wasn't too into slugs if I'm being honest but this is certainly a compelling proposal
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>>521065817
She is the reason I started loving slugs, though Paradox introducing futa made stay cautious.
I just loved her flasher design. I think she was the final nail that sold me to MGQ after the first fight with a Slime Girl
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>>521065817
I like her, but her older, evilier big sister just has the more beautiful design.
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>>521068601
>>521066721
Racist, she isn't the same the slug
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>>521043927
>>521043914
Our slow death returns.
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https://x.com/kyomu_no_uriba/status/1909986314008801694
Negotiation X Monster 1st year anniversary. It will be 50% off for the rainder of the month.
… how do I buy it?
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>>521028650
don't depress me with reality anon it's the principle of the thing
i don't care if even only one person ever bothers to make use of one of these boosted girls traits if that means the one person gets to use their desired wife without worry
>>521036419
Here's hoping anon
I just can't wait to see what Reina gets!
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All this talk about fixing the bugs and coding makes me want to do a insect only run myself. It's kind funny how much work TrTr actually did to making this race so diverse, but just couldn't get it perfect at the finish line.
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>>521078392
I guess I'm not the only one who's got them stuck in my head right now; glad if I'm able to encourage you to do one. Harpies are my favorites in all ways of course, but in terms of battle performance, Insects are honestly my second favorite race due to how diverse their entire line of skills is and all the things they can do. Harpies are more versatile, but Insects have a lot of unique combinations that just make their girls really fun to play with.

If you do end up going with an Insect Only Run, would you like me to pass you the current version of the updated actor folder I'm working on anon? All but one of the Insect Specialist Girls have had their traits fixed to work correctly now, at least within the confines of what trtr had finished for them. After that, I'm still debating on if I should give the Thread Girls the Whip skills and what to do for the Stinger Girls.
Mostly just trying to decide what to add for Honey to expand her trait if I do end up doing it; it's between either the sickle skills (which makes the most logical sense as they're adjacent to her stinger's specialty) or sonic wave skills (look up "honeybee death ball" if you aren't familiar with why trtr gave the insect girls these skills to begin with). Either way, I would like to give these girls a little something to help them out since trtr wasn't able to do it himself.
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>arrive in town or village
>talk to all npc's
>get tired and quit
reading (raw) to learn is exhausting. today I've successfully memorized 周囲, 託す, 未だ and 時空転送装置. you guys should drop the mtl and join me.
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>>521086672
>you guys should drop the mtl and join me.
I tried until I realized I'm more racist toward the japanese than interested in learning to read porn games and watch anime raw.
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>>521087117
breddy much. to me, reading eng crappy mtl is exhausting already.
i recognize symbols for fire, i guess
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Oh God.

Sonya is Luka's granddaughter.
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>>521088501
God's popping out creations from thin air doesn't mean they are litteral children.
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>>521086672
>know pretty much all the skill types by now
>have no idea about the status effects that aren't in katakana besides sleep now
It feels like I skipped many steps of the learning process just to remember this is a greatsword and that's guns.
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>>521080783
I ended up making up my mind since I honestly just felt really bad for all the girls involved that trtr left behind, so I ended up going through with the buff.
Thread Girls now also buff the silk whips, and Stinger Girls now also buff sickles/claws. Considering how many Insect Girls get unconditional universal +30% to +50% damage boosts by Part 3, this is hardly going to unbalance anything, but it will allow all of these girls to at least have a way to compete or keep up with them. I also decided to try and test something else, which i'm sure tinyfixes anon could probably find a much easier way to do but i'm still not very skilled at coding and just know how to do things the way trtr did them.
In any case all of the specialized Insect Girls have their traits fixed AND buffed now, so I can now start to move on to other kinds of Monster Girls and/or their specialist traits.
For some additional good news, Bubbles, Tongues, and Dissolving Slime have been checked over and have no problems so far so trtr was able to correctly implement all the things for them at least.
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>>521090572
A God made a creature. This mean this creature is it's child.
Basic logic.
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>>521092602
good for you. now think about scalpels and that fact that trtr considers mantises having katanas instead
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two playthroughs and I've never used scalpels, cards, plates or abacus
what's the point
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I only discovered 'Artificial' skill type is not another word for 'Makina' skill type in part 3. Corpse? Saw it once.
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>>521095472
Meant to buff the job skills they are attached to, and these buffs aren't just general damage boosts either.
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A boy has a penis. This means this human wants rape.
Basic logic.
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>>521095472
Abacus makes mercantile skills 20% cheaper.
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>>521094605
>now think about scalpels
......what about scalpels? Doctor's a pretty good class, or at least I found it's supportive skills very useful for the entirety of Part 3.
>Mantises with Katanas
That's only one of the two Mantis Girls; the other one focuses on Scythes (the weapon skills) to the point of having innate scythe mastery.
Do you want me to do something for them? They both have generalist traits (since they just broadly apply their buffs to entire skill types instead of only selective ones), so they aren't too bad off.
I do wish the Orchid Mantis was better though, I quite like her design.
>>521095472
They're good if you use those classes and skill types as the weapons apply buffs to their associated job skills or make them easier to use; Cards especially are good since they have a chance to give you extra turns and dual/triple-wielding stacks all those chances. Triple Wielding cards can randomly give the user up to +3 Actions (Pyhar made really good use of this) so they're legitimately not that bad when you factor in "It's Always My Turn" and the final offensive skill for Oracle.
Like, sure other options exist but the variety is part of the fun and it honestly can work surprisingly well. Although just having the chance to get three bonus turns is strong enough on it's own.
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>>521096165
And in part 3 there are normal chests with tens of thousands of gold standing around. I'd assume they are specifically to support players using Mercantile.
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>>521095472
>cards
multi-turns using buffs can beat out the stats and bonuses of other weapons if used right. You can also make a stupid build for the gambler fairies
>abacus
cheaper warps early before time magic, and cheaper elixers for Overload abuse
Scalpel and Plates are only ever useful to extend their buffs by 5 turns and 3 for maid boost. They're not useful outside challenge runs
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Can't wait for someone to upload Demon in Wonderland ver 1.43 so that I can actually use the current translation.
Sex with sleepy mice.
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There is something incredibly funny to me how Baal Zebub went from being the origin of one of the most dangerous threats in the world due to an absurdly powerful reproductive capabilities and endless drive to reproduce to something that seems to hold the concept of sex with antipathy and can't even understand why others would bother
She outright asks you why anyone would even bother "proliferating" and for what reason someone would want kids
It's such a complete 180 of the Bubs that it's kind of hilarious
her sex scene has her addressing herself as "The Lord of Flies" and doing more-or-less the same thing the Bubs do while being extremely into having kids as well, furthering how unusual the change is; given trtr's tendency to not rewrite sex scenes I think she might also have had that one finished before the change.
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>>521098858
Hand holding cowgirl sex done by
Alice is a surprise to me, I didn't think she was into reto like that, also most succubi even if they ask that don't realy stop if they are asked to they just say stuff like "When you look at me with eyes like that it makes me wanna bully you even more" as they redouble their rape
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>>521104228
How is it surprising for Alice? All you had to do was lose to her at least once, she basically loves him right away.
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I tried not to but I can't help myself, I simply have to point out how damn tall Clubs Soldier turned out to be.
If a HOP member is 180cm then how damn tall is this
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>Honey works with Reina and the other Harpies to help make happiness honey
>Honey has no happiness of her own
not even the bee girls can escape sadness.....
I've seen every other insect girl beating themselves up, calling themselves disgusting or hated, getting angry if you try to be nice or compliment them because they think you're just lying to make them feel better, but to think it even extends as far as here
also the whole bit about how trtr bungled so many of them
do insect girls just have a species-wide inclination to self-loathing and depression?
the plant girls are assholes to people and then complain in confusion when they realize no one likes them, but seeing even the nicer insects just openly and casually think that no one will ever love them just makes me feel really bad
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Maybe Alipheese shouldn't have hit the random button in the fucking spore creature creator
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>>521106379
Well a naked titty sucking handjob is a whole lot different compared to legit plapping,anon I mean even in succubus in wonderland where you can take certain party members to the inn to have sex you talk her there and she just does the same thing

side note, to bring the conversation back to paradox, it kinda bothers me that the sisters seem to have become interested in Luka romance wise, Morrigan at least seems to like him lots now
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>>521112919
>do insect girls just have a species-wide inclination to self-loathing and depression?
Yes, even the insect like angels complain that they're ugly and nobody wants to willingly fuck them
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>>521114447
She didn't create that
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>>521116127
not even the sex thing, the insect angels aren't even allowed to go outside because the other angels thing they're gross
they're literally forbidden from ever letting people see them
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Harpy anon, since you are so wise about birds, how would a harpy go about flipping the bird?
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>>521112919
it's hip to fuck bees because it makes the bees less sad.
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If you go insane while you're already insane would that just be the normal state of mind or something completely different?
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>>521115841
62studio probably just didn't want to wait for more CGs to be drawn. They're not making some kind of development hell behemoth
>to bring the conversation back to paradox
As far as I'm concerned, fuck Paradox until the 4th route drops. I've been reading the same types of conversations for the past six months and I take no offense to this, so I don't feel bad about being the nail that's sticking out. It's not like 62studio games are totally off-topic
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Gods do not feel lonely. Understand?
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>>521120696
>t.
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>>521120358
the datamining is kind of interesting at least
as far as story goes though, yeah you're not really wrong
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>>521120696
Yes they do.
They need lovey-dovey plappies and handholding.

>CAPTCHA:NATT
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Do you think the spiders are also depressed about their appearence and simply embraced being hated?
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>>521121035
Tbh the datamining is pretty uninteresting because anything past dates involving Xelvy's death it's just the same guy saying the parts of the game he didn't like was rewritten
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>>521120696
BLACKSOULS
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>>521122070
Didn't setouchi meet with xelvy a few months ago?
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>>521112919
Really, the only insect clan who won out are the ants. Their queen is the super popular one who has the largest support for the position of insect leader, they are in an alliance with the strongest human nation, who gives them free sweets, and they are otherwise well liked even after a brutal war, because they don't have scary appendages or eat people.
Bees have been kicked out of the forest, spiders are despised by everyone, including themselves, and the roaches are disgusting.
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>>521122956
No. Setouchi was just reminiscing about a meeting with Xelvy he had a long time ago.
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>>521123450
What about the big tits lettuce thieves? Now that I think about it, I didn't include Novy in my parties in Part 3
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>>521125993
Land Dwellers, not insects.
But, they did pretty good for themselves though, seeing how they are Midas' new tourist attraction, and are protected by Star Eaters' surrogate daughter.
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>>521126565
>Land Dwellers, not insects.
Who do I trust...
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>>521122070
>Xelvy's death
He didn't die his sister did and it made him reevaluate his life and a little shamed of his work.
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>>521126764
I thought you were talking about slugs, the original lettuce thieves.
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>>521127307
But I namedropped Novy right away?!
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>>521114447
>>521116127
>>521117592
Man, they really do have it rough....
>>521118126
I'll have to make a diagram for that, but I'll give you an answer no doubt
>>521118446
happy bees make better honey
help them to bee hapy!
>>521121642
some of them maybe, but I think most of them tend to be similar to the carnivorous plants in the "hated by the rest of their kind for being unapologetically evil" way
I don't think they're in denial about what they are like the plants seem to be, though
>>521123450
The Bees were happy on the mountain (they prefer it to the forest iirc) before the whole CW thing happened. I don't actually know what became of Miria's tribe after that.
That being said the Bees on the Ilian Continent (like Honey) have a good life with Happiness Village so its not all bad for them
...I think the rest of the Insect Girls are still outcasts at best, though
alas
>>521125993
They're alright from what I remember.
Also her trait works correctly too; all the breast-specialist girl's traits (which she's one of) have the correctly updated skills lack I checked
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>>521098858
I’m conflicted to this adaptation.
On one hand: hot as fuck
On another, it’s the Kuro no Mahou guy. He surely would be able to keep it more consistent with the game
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>>521122070
>the parts of the game he didn't like was rewritten
I've said before how much I really like Hive Mind though............
She's one of my favorite calamites, even
Her Boss Fight is absolutely phenomenal and she's at the end of a really fun quest, on top of the 10/10 conclusion and her defeat actually reflecting the strategy my team of Harpies used to defeat her Mind Guard Kill can be reflected and if successful will permanently remove Baal Zebub's immunities to confusion and sleep for the rest of the fight; once defeated she's ultimately neutralized in the same way by the party using Priestess to reflect her attempt to mind-meld back at her which completely shatters her mental fortitude and she becomes a pacifist in the process
Really everything around her in the game I think is well done.
I mean, I DO feel really bad for her, but it's not like I'm the only one that does. Can you even imagine being forced to swap minds with Priestess for even one second anon? I wouldn't wish that upon my most hated enemies. It must have been horrible to experience. At least Priestess checks up on her every now and then to keep her company and let her keep her favorite set of headphones.

My interest in delving into the past of Baal Zebub/Hive Mind is precisely because I like her so much, in addition to the fact that (unlike the other two reworked ones) there's just a huge amount of information surrounding Baal Zebub that allows a lot of insight as to who she used to be and it's just really interesting to discover more things about her.
I'm very curious about what her original intended role in the game might have been before she was reworked, but it's not like I hate her as she is now. It's just, well, really enjoyable to compare the two different versions of this character.
I was hoping it wouldn't come across as something negative like that....
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Jesus she is basically flexing on the other soldiers by existing
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>>521128786
I may have forgotten to censor that particular one
oops
Luckily for us though a pair of Harpies have volunteered to keep everything safe for work
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>>521128786
The yellow bub was mostly likely part of the Ilias route, but TrTr, seeing how he decided that he wasn't splitting Part 3 into two in 2019, cut out a lot of bloat from both decision routes, so the progress into the Chaos route didn't take forever. NotChrome and disgusting snake aids was probably the same.
Xelvy going MiA ended up having to force TrTr to use scrapped characters for his FFVI World of Ruin expy, saving these designs in the end.
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>>521129805
I agree with you honestly, that's exactly what I think happened. Baal Zebub was 100% meant to at least make an appearance (if not be fought directly) in the MW, prior to becoming the Hive Mind. Enough of her original role is left in some parts of the data to just help piece together what it might've been like, while the other two are just too bare-bones to go off of.

I don't think she was ever going to go unused (the other two may have been at risk of it though), since it seems like she had a lot of her completed early on, but I am glad she was successfully kept in the game and got to shine the way she does. Even if she's somewhat-retconned she's really enjoyable.
I'm just a little sad that the Beelzebubs don't have any comments to make about her, despite them commenting on their AU!Daughter. Even bringing them to her boss fight won't have them say anything. But that's not anything against BZ/HM herself, that's just trtr not having the Bubs talk about ZeBub.
Also speaking of Rui, it took until earlier in the day for me to realize that she actually shares a similar trait pattern to the other Bubs, just patterened after her mother and Luka. She has the same affinity for Swords and Insect skills, she just replaces Black Magic with Heroism and removes the spellblade bonuses for hit count buffs. It's kind of nice how the fly girls seem to have familial trait similarities.
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>>521129805
Unfortunately, some designs were better off unused
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>>521129585
>she's even sharing her medicine
cute
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>>521131256
Unfortunately, seeing how Un-Do really rushed the shit out of the hentai scenes for Xelvy's Apoptosis girls in the Chaos route. I don't think TrTr really had much of a choice other then dig out scrapped designs for his grand open world bonanza. His other artists were probably too busy, or the funds were drying up to keep hiring them.
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>>521131513
yes
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>>521096061
Absolute truth!
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Telling a mimic girl your favorite form of hers is her default!
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>>521096061
Monsters have pussy this means the monster wants to rape penis.
Basic logic.
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Telling a mimic girl to get good!
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>>521120358
don't forget, you're here forever
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>>521155141
still doesnt compare to the amount of hatred i have for myself
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>>521155141
>You're here forev-
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>>521112919
>”how can I even compare to mermaids when I’m just a bug?”
>meanwhile the divorce rate among mermaids continues to skyrocket as they fall ever further into mental illness and leave their husbands in droves to masturbate over shotas
something tells me she’ll win out in the end
on the bright side I hear port natalia is nice this time of year
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Mermaids have always been homewrecking sluts. Maybe there's a reason that only cute and honest mermaids end up becoming pirates.
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>>521155141
I love Hiruko-chan!
She's so cute!

...I do think she needs to work on a properly busty optimal Shiki form though.
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>>521164340
I'm sure you'll be able to give her all the nutrients she needs to grow big and healthy.
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Two (2) Tams.
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>>521170104
kitsune? old and busted

even the highest tier doesn't have tail.
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If it hasn't been done yet, does anyone know how to mod/enable cut-ins to appear on other/extra skills? Or even add custom ones, some of the monsters I love didn't get any, I need to show them some love.
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https://x.com/blackse/status/1910165755490144638/

Evil Tamamo
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>>521175671
It has been done.
mega.nz/file/jMEl2IJD#hakeQ8C8gyKJHdD1U-KF38BZ5po1jiyab7XcS-aZNQM
- download optional mods archive
- move 1Cut-ins_Helper.rb and Cut-ins_Template.rb to Patch folder
- (optional) copy and rename Cut-ins_Template.rb or just rename it directly for your preffered name in case if one day you mindlessly try to throw that file in your Patch folder again
- open Cut-ins_Template.rb
- see how its done
- add new cutins yourself
ask questions if something is unclear. there are txt sheets for actors and skill ids in the folder too
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>>521120358
>As far as I'm concerned, fuck Paradox until the 4th route drops
Whats wrong with 3rd route? Everyone gets their happy ending, not sure what people expected.
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>350 hours
>beat first and final full playthough of paradox on normal
>feel bad because you one shot'd chaos just by stacking x billions of attack on luka + sword haste
>some post game stuff but it's still so joever

I've never felt so empty in my life, it was such a satisfying timesink, now what do I do? What do you people do here even?
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>>521178254
>4th route drops
>more bitching about the collab taking about 10 hours again and powercreep despite there going to be buffs
This place's opinion on Part 3 is only going to get worse
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>>521179668
But the collab was in part 2? And it was also hated even back then.
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>>521179810
Part 3 was supposed to send them back... The 4th route is definitely going to elaborate on that
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>>521176303
Thanks its everything I wanted.
Although is there a way to not overwrite the original skill_words? Or at least is there a new doc updated for part 3 so I can copy paste the new skill dialogues in it as is.
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>>521179668
i swear to fuck if myusca mary sues her ass through collab 2
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>>521182394
In general, mod doesn't overwrite actor's original skillwords array, just adds to it.
But, if you write in an existing skillword for an actor, then yeah it'd overwrite it.
At best you can grab original skillword:
```
[2922] => { # フラワーフレグランス
:word_1 => ["\\n<Arthur>Plants of the forest, obey my will...!", "durahan_fc1", 0],
},
```
copy it properly into your modded file and add an additional word so it'd play at random with original word:
```
[2922] => { # フラワーフレグランス
:word_1 => ["\\n<Arthur>Plants of the forest, obey my will...!", "durahan_fc1", 0],
:word_2 => ["\\n<Arthur>Mermaids are quite terrible, aren't they?", "durahan_fc1", 0],
},

```
You can find full list of skill words in translation patcher folder: Translated Files\Scripts\209 - SkillWords(Actor).rb
if it's just from bitbucket, then it has plenty of jap, manual translation team have those on a low priority, rightfully so.
if it's mtl.. it has shittiest mtl of all game. and well it still has some jap, in 3.06 only puff-puff lines were mtled and not Remina's skillwords..
but it is how it is.
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>>521164516
A life well lived.
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>>521112919
i think a bee girl pub would be nice in happiness village, they could have honey based alcohol there
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>>521192979
It's called Mead and it was the alcohol of choice for the extinct Indo-Europeans.
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>>521178254
I meant that I've played and talked about the story already so I'm worn out about it, so fuck it until we get more.
>>521179668
>>521179810
Yeah, but at least we'll have a truly complete opinion since the game will be actually done. I'd be pretty satisfied if we get a fresh collab, even if only for high quality shitpost fuel.
Or better yet a real and new Succubus Prison game pls plsplsplsplspls
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>>521196404
>Or better yet a real and new Succubus Prison game pls plsplsplsplspls
Succubus Prison JK sequel!
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>>521196873
I bet they're looking at skibidi toilet and wonder wtf is wrong with the new generation.
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>>521196404
>better yet a real and new Succubus Prison
Now I remember that furry game never got translated into english.
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>>521196873
>The dreaded JK Shiki
You know, now that I think about it, maybe there could be other factors at play in the teacher shortage...
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>>521197308
If you wave those two Toki furryge in front of enough furries' faces, there might be someone who'd choose to take care of it by themselves
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so, there was some progress in dynamically altering character features (aka traits aka whatever) with a mod. it's in early working stages now.. yeah..
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>>521197396
>dreaded
Anyone should be so lucky!
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>>521170104
Excellent.~
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>>521196873
>game where JK drawn by Shiki blackmail you and use you as paypig and sex toy.
>if they're not actually succubi that will drain you to death, ofc
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>>521179583
>Spend time with your wife
>Sightsee with your wife
>Recruit any girls you've missed with your wife
>Complete all the extra quests with your wife
>Challenge the Labrynth of Chaos with your wife
>Do Paradox Difficulty with your wife
>Try a Challenge Run (with your wife)
>And last but not least, have hapy loving sex with your wife
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>>521197612
Would you still want the actor folder as I've updated it?
I've fixed the two Stinging Tentacle Girls to have the final skill trtr forgot to include for them (since they had one directly meant for them as one of the final tentacle skills specifically involves paralysis), so I've now either fixed or restored the traits for four categories of girls that trtr had botched or left unfinished.
Working to correct all the mistakes trtr made that left certain traits incomplete was one thing, but trying to directly modify or change the entire traits themselves just didn't feel right to me. That being said however, what you're working on is a mod and would presumably just go in the patch folder as an optional plug-in for those who are interested while I've more-or-less just been doing (somewhat literal) bug fixes that trtr just forgot to go back and implement himself. I'm still making and going down the lists, but I've made good progress at least.

I've also successfully tested and implemented another secondary feature that I wished trtr had done, since it was something trtr HAD done for numerous Girls all the way back in Part 1 but never went back nor forward with doing once a certain version of Part 2 had come out. But I've only done it for one girl so far (Reina, to nobody's surprise I'm sure). If you're working on this kind of plugin however you've probably already made more progress with it than I have though.
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Why SW Luka so good at math?
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>>520605000
Man, I feel so vindicated when I said that we would get more in a future update. Who really thought we would only like 7 people to propose to, honestly.
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>>521217256
well firstly do you comment out your changes? in ruby comment is #, manual translation team uses it in skills file often commenting on which descriptions are wrong.
secondly, of course for specific changes i'd need points of change you'd list. you think i'd care for insect girls to test my stuff on them? haha.
Don't really matter in which form list goes, whatever.
thirdly, i'm not adding skills. There's a big difference between skills and features. Features that boost skills? those are attracted my attention. directly adding skills to girls that doesn't have them? well that's a different matter entirely.
>>521217837
inn management?
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>>521176225
Why are her breasts getting bigger...
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>>521217837
Inn management, some of that cross-world fuckery inherited from his recombined father.
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>>521153517
Gotta pick her lock using your own organic lock picker.
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>>521218940
Considering how the date event went with just the heroines and Alma Elma him going with that many was already too much. Now that he's adding more it's unlikely he's actually going to make Luka have his wife in something like the festival.
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>>521219884
It was just a single joke like but in the VN Luka was also insane at math. If it was inheritary then it was from his mom.
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>>521197308
now i remember that size degeneracy game with the tag wholesome and incest they made..

the translation got canned due to covid and im still mad about it.
and due to the banning of loli if you arent from japan on dlsite safe to say mtl is prolly the only way your gonna get that. cuz one of the characters is a giant loli.

the plot startoff is literally a shota wanting to be taller cuz he is smol but his sisters steal his growth serum and put them on pancakes. this causes him to awaken his macrophilia.

reminder its made by the succ prison devs this shit doesnt have fatalis stuff apart from stuff that happens in dreams.
anasteema's tea party is the game.
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>>521219634
she unloli'd even harder than normal thus causing even more fatty tissue in the chest area than normal
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>>521221763
>tries saying fatal
>says fatalis

Im too mhbrained anons.. help.
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>Looking at a couple paradox events, seeing if I can draw inspiration
>Picrel
...and this is why I refuse to play it. Even if watching this events video gave me peace with Magical Girl Granberia.

>>521222471
There's no cure...I'm so sorry. On the upside, there's a lot worse brainrot out there.
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>>521222668
Not sure why that shocks you. Luka was one shotting every super boss in part 2 by masturbating.
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>>521224343
He's allergic to numbers.
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>>521224343
...Because I haven't played a lick of Paradox, and these numbers are obscene from the outside in?
The FUCK do you mean 'one shotting every super boss by masturbating'?

>>521224610
I'm alergic to millions, billions, and trillions of damage, yeah. The fuck?
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>>521224881
paradox tryna reach for disgaea's numbers levels of bullshit
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>>520780208
Isn’t that the point? Fuck foxes, bring more foxes into the world
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>>521224881
>millions, billions, and trillions
Those are rookie numbers.
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>>521224881
Crisis luka is fucking built different.
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>>521225026
>Disgaea
Christ, I forgot how high that game could go. Little wonder I never clicked with it...

>>521225241
Good to know my decision to not play continues to be justified, then!

>>521225268
That, at least, I can believe. Fucking hell.
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>>521225529
Ironic that someone who likes the strongest knight is such a faggot about powerlevels in a rpg.
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>>521224343
he cames to bitch all the time
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>>521225706
I despite powerscaling, yes.
I also hate shit that can just be trivialized- which Paradox appears to be.

And I can (and do) love her for more than just her strength. Get better material.

>>521225843
Anon, I'm extremely rarely in these threads nowadays. I mostly sit and lurk at most- but hey, if I'm not welcome, onto the filter list this thread goes.
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>>521217837
divine genetics gave him a brain like a supercomputer that's only undermined by his young age and lacking upbringing
it's the source of his abnormal talent for sword skills
Lucifina has control of her body faculties as shown by her womb optimization and he inherited capabilities from the mental side
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>>521225706
tamamo is the strongest tho? like lorewise gameplay wise its definitely granberia
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>>521226256
this was foreshadowed in the vn actually with the scene where he quickly calculates how much time they could spend in that stupid expensive inn without hero rate.
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>>521225928
>I also hate shit that can just be trivialized- which Paradox appears to be.
you dont NEED to trivialize it, though
Parts 1 and 2 are perfectly normal and fine games to play through and dont really have any of these issues either
Part 3 just exacerbated the difficulty to make it hard to go one way or the other, but you can have a normal playthrough where you don't instagib every fight or die in one hit
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For me, it's not engaging with something that doesn't want to play the game and refuses to play a game that develops the character it claims to love
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>>521226938
VN Granberia stated she learned to cut through mountains because of Tamamo if memory serves, and Tamamo's big form probably won't give her too much of an advantage because Granberia was tanking a few Chaos Ilias big bangs.
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>>521219160
>in ruby
I had to look that up if you still need an indication of how little I know about coding, but it explains the comments I've seen in some of the files

While I have made the comments detailing my bugfixes (or personal alterations) in these threads, I can definitely add those clarifications to the file itself if you want me too anon. It shouldn't be too hard. I think. I'm pretty sure I can do it but you need to understand that I still can't wrap my head around the cut-in plugin and just went back to modifying the script file itself since that's what I know how to do because I tend to get confused with things like this really, really easily.
I'm extremely grateful for your help in telling me HOW to do that initially, and it's thanks to you I've gotten this far, but....well, I'm still probably kind of inept at this.
The bug fixes I'm doing are just really simple to do, which is why even someone as technically retarded as I am can implement them.

I've attached a screenshot for the first of many [#NOTE]'s I'll need to add. Is this the correct way to do them? Or do I need to redo the punctiaiton? I'm trying to fix trtr's glitches, not add more, and I don't want to accidentally fuck something up. If this seems like an obvious thing to you, well, please understand I'm still new to this lol.

But essentially if you just want a list of changes for the four specialist groups I've done so far (again I'll add these to the actor file itself, but for your convenience I'll list them out here too):
>Stinger Girls: Added Missing Skills, Added Final Skill Equivalents
>Thread Girls: Added Missing Skills, Added Final Skill Equivalents
>Drainer Girls: Added Missing Skills
>Stinging Tentacle Girls: Added Missing Skill
I think this addresses your first and second questions, so I hope I'm able to help you out anon!
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>>521219160
>>521229886
For your third point, though: something that always bothers me is when an ally loses something unique to them once they are recruited, especially if it's a special skill.
Many girls in Part 1 have unique or exclusive skills to them, and while most of them can be learned through tutors in the LoC now, they still have a special benefit of innately knowing them.

However when trtr added in Sorcery Skills all the girls who got special sorceries made specifically for them were not actually GIVEN those skills when you recruited them nor if you go to have them relearn skills. In order for girls to learn their special skills (which in many cases aren't even particularly good), you have to first beat Parts 1 and 2, then do the Collab Event, then do a Sidequest to get a job, THEN have them level up that job and FINALLY you have to backtrack all the way to where you can encounter more of those Girls and wait for ages to have them use whatever learnable Sorcery Skill they have.
Considering how many girls originally had this benefit without needing a job, it always bothered me to some degree.

So I added a line to Reina's personal trait as she innately knows Harpy Dance (which every Harpy will eventually learn anyway, she just gets it a couple levels early) to also have her innately know Harpy Kick (because I love that skill even if it's not that good) and then went to check after a patch. And sure enough, this works! Reina now innately gets to know this skill. It doesn't affect to much (she can't even use it early on because it's too high-costed until she starts learning other 1000 power skills anyway) but I thought it would be a nice and fun if simple thing to do. I've since also tested this with Honey as well.

So essentially I just gave a couple of girls who have Sorceries the ability to know those Sorceries without needing to be halfway through the game to get them.
It's not that big a deal, but I thought it might be a fun thing to do.
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oh also i went to check where i remembered seeing #Notes in one of the files and, well, I'm glad the manual team pointed this out as I might not have noticed it otherwise

Pandora's a ghost using magic for god's sake and yet trtr somehow caused her trait to apply to plant skills of all things??? trtr i love you and i respect how much you were able to achieve all by yourself, but i seriously wish you'd worked with at least one person who at least just helped you double-check what you did.

it shouldn't be too hard to fix this though; I'll just pull Pandora up in the actor file and correct this mistake myself. trtr probably just did another typo or something.
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>>521231716
My favorite trait overlook is that Ghost Train has +50% agility twice. Which would make it +125%
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I hope I can find at least one sorcery that's better than over curse before I beat the game
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>>521225928
>>521231073
Yeah, note stuff is what i now able to modify.
Well, modify what exists there, not adding new stuff unfortunately.
Basically, as long as it is present, expanding on it will work to some extent. E.g. in actor 81 there are those skill improvements and whatnot:
><スキル強化 2850-30,2851-30,2852-30,2853-30,9611-30>
to
><スキル強化 2850-30,2851-30,2852-30,2853-30,9611-30, 9612-30>
and my mod can expand it, adding more pairs. Or change existing stuff directly:
><パーティ特定アクター能力アップ 245-15>
to
><パーティ特定アクター能力アップ 106-9001>
But if it's non-existing in that actor <something > , then no luck.
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Did you know that the number 104 is used as a slang term for angels because 10=Ten and 4=Shi so you get the word for angel (tenshi)
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>>521232684
Over curse's value is for the status effects. If you want damage use something with 3 or more chaos elements and stack all the separate element boosters you can.
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files.catbox.moe/v5u5ig.zip

New shitty mod for the pile. 'Title_BGM_quietizer'. Does what it sounds like, pun intended.
Reduces volume of title BGM (both normal and the other one) from 100 to 20. No more blasting off player's ears.
Configurable in the file, both volume and pitch. Default volume for the mod is 20, and pitch is the same 100 as game's default. Don't recommend to change the pitch, only if for shits and giggles. Higher than 100 makes it helium, lower than 100 makes it deeper.
Comes with a bonus feature, turned OFF by default.
All in all, factually does exactly what it says in the name - title bgm is now quieter.
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>>521219634
For a genuine attempt at an answer, Shiki's art of Tamamo has bigger tits than Jingai's, and even if that can be chalked up to "art style difference", it seems that's one way artists can try to distinguish between the two.

In short, Setouchi drew her with big tits as one of the ways to distinguish her as Monster World Tamamo. Or he's started to have trouble doing regular sized tits, suppose that's also possible.
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we love our monster girls here
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>>521239040
Only the ones willing to snuff me, the rest can fuck off.
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>>521239040
Only the ones willing to protect and love and cherish me as outlined in the rules of the MGE.
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>>521239040
Indeed!
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>>521239918
>
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>>521239918
love and hate arent mutually exclusive thats why hatefucking is a thing
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>>521241471
The setting has many options and allows for consensual roleplayed hate sex.
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>>521231716
>>521232063
Good News! Turns out, the manual translation team was a little wrong about the problems on her trait.
Bad News: that's because IT'S WORSE

The Plant-to-Sorcery part is one thing; funnily enough it's the exact same typo that caused trtr to fuck up all the Spiders where he accidentally put in a '5' instead of a '6' and made it 58 instead of 68. So that's easy enough.
But as I was checking over Pandora's trait in order to double-check and make sure everything was correct I realized that there's a little quirk with how skills are identified compared to statuses: statuses are all listed very neatly and organized in a state list with specific state ids (1, 2, 3, 4 etc) and icon ids (17, 0, 0, 32 etc).

However the skill id list begins with a blank line, and the result is that despite the file having each skill organized into "lines" which contain their numerical id, the "blank" skill category at the top causes every line to be delayed, meaning they don't actually match up to how trtr coded them to be recognized as (to my knowledge) the "blank" category is programmed to be ignored. So a skill categorized as being on line "69" is actually identified as "68", while "59" is actually "58". If you just looked at the line list in the note file, you'd think "69/59" are Sorcery/Plant respectively, but those are actually Ghost/Giant, and the real ids for Sorcery/Plant are "68/58" respectively.

That sounds simple enough right? Just take the delay into account and it's not a problem.
And indeed, it's simple.
Until I looked at Pandora again and realized that, because Pandora's conditional bonuses were the part trtr added to her as a "buff" in 3.04, both of her other two skill types listed in her trait were actually listed with their skill id matching up to the *line* value, and not the real, delayed value.

Guess what! trtr also botched her conditionals for white magic! She doesn't have any! Instead, she gets conditionals with TIME magic.

TRTR
PLEASE
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>>521242139
>Guess what! trtr also botched her conditionals for white magic! She doesn't have any! Instead, she gets conditionals with TIME magic.
This is good. Conditionals stack so now she has a beefy Time Magic spell instead of a average White Magic one. It's like Ghost Train where this is actually a buff.
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>>521242139
You do realize that trtr is the developer of the game and not the dude who uses vxacetranslator, right?
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>>521127872
how is progress on that bird backflipping?
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>>521242834
oh, right
I mean I know you're correct (that's why beast skills are so absurd, the two buffs from fangs stack with the innate buff from the skill which makes it do over ten times what it'd do otherwise) but I guess I forgot about that in the moment since I was just looking for the typo he made and found the other typos he left in there that caused the bug.

.....should I change it back? I already corrected the bug for her, but it's not like I've shared this file yet.
for reference the line I changed is underlined, as it's what trtr went to add between parts and it's where he made the mistakes.
I corrected the plant/sorcery error but I can revert her conditionals on white magic back to time magic before I share this if you want.
or I can just, well, give her both of those. So she has bonuses to white/black/time and sorcery.

>>521243231
yes? i mean, obviously.
trtr's made typos like this before though.
Everything else in Pandora's trait correctly identifies white/black/time magic with the right ids.
That's why I specified it's only with this one line, as trtr went back in after Part 3's release to add it to her after the fact and just forgot to double-check if he was giving her the right values. That's why she had Plant Conditionals on Slow but Sorcery Conditionals on Stop: trtr just put in a 5 on accident in the first part and didn't catch it. Likewise he just put 23 and 24 instead of 22 and 23 on Pandora by mistake.
I don't know what vxacetranslator has to do with this; the typos from trtr are in the raw version of the game.
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>Senko-san's artist follows Jingai Modoki on xitter
Is Rimukoro /ourguy/?
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What's better for Sonya? Attack or willpower? I wanted to continue smashing with club skills, but it seem to be absolutely outclassed by chaos skills. It says they use attack to calculate damage, but Sonya trait description says chaos skills use willpower instead.
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>>521245126
After he started playing Blue Archive he became a femdom addict and started drawing lolis raping him. If he drew Senko nowadays she’d sure as hell milk the MC dry and pat his head afterwards
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>>521246093
Attack so you can use Gaia's Wrath which doubles your attack as part of her chain.
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>>521233402
I see, thanks anon!
I'm glad to know I was able to add the notes marking my fixes correctly as well.
I like the idea for the mod, and it's definitely a fair way to implement it: no adding new things outright to traits but it lets you somewhat change what's already present. All I'm doing are just bug fixes for traits trtr either messed up or forgot to update, since I do really love the game and it's a way to try and help other anons in the thread.

Except for the innate skill/sorcery thing, which is more secondary and just meant to be a minor QoL bonus since things like Marcellus the Monster Lord Slayer who uses Sword of the Monster Lord Slayer to Slay Monster Lords not actually knowing "Sword of the Monster Lord Slayer" is kind of unusual to me (he's the third character I added their sorcery too; he actually has a lot of innate skills he obtains and I think some might even be exclusive to him but he still didn't get that one for some reason).
I'll have to go down the list and fetch the ids at some point, but I plan to do that after the bug fixes. I'm leaving it at just those three characters for now since it's not as important to me as wanting to just make sure everything else is working fine.

Also, I decided to add additional lines for Pandora (24-16-150, 24-17-150) to the part of her trait that trtr had added in the update as a compromise for those who prefer how her trait is from the bug.
This way, Pandora's trait is correctly updated to match what trtr had intended to give her and what her description says (giving conditionals to white magic as well as black magic and sorcery), but she still keeps the part he erroneously gave her and thus gets to have those bonuses for time magic as well since it's still a nice benefit for her to have. If the train gets +125% agility and Petite has +750% ailment infliction rate to her very specific list of skills I don't think this will hurt to add back.
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>>521248085
And that's a good thing.
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>>521217837
Ilias's brain is just built different, the benefit of being the goddess of light I suppose. Like how she knows the names and character info about literally every human on earth. She's also capable of all the same research that Promestein did and would complete it faster, she just doesn't give a shit about science.
Micaela/Lucifina basically being clones of Ilias inherited this brainpower, Luka then inherits it from Lucifina.
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oh right, before I forget: for those interested, here is the current version of the updated actor file that I have been working on:

https://files.catbox.moe/ryunlg.zip

This version has notes marking the traits of all girls that I have updated, but for ease the full list of bug fixes and/or minor changes I have done is as follows:
>Stinger Girls: Added Missing Skills, Added Final Skill Equivalents
>Thread Girls: Added Missing Skills, Added Final Skill Equivalents
>Drainer Girls: Added Missing Skills
>Stinging Tentacle Girls: Added Missing Skill
>Pandora: Updated Trait to Correctly Identify White Magic Bonus; Kept Time Magic Bonus
>Added a few Sorceries to some character's innate skill lists (Reaper should be able to let them relearn them)
I'm still going down the list of specialist traits and after that I'll start double-checking some other traits as well just to make sure; if there are any further issues after the specialist trait girls it's probably just things trtr added in Ver 3.04 since that seems to be where some of the more well-known bugs happen to come from (anything that's clearly beneficial I won't "fix" since that'd just be a killjoy to everyone who liked it that way, hence why Pandora kept the unintended bonus). Once I make enough progress, I'll share the next version of the file.

If you want to use this just drop it into the [translated files] folder and replace the current actor file with it (copy or move the original file just in case) and then just repatch the game to apply it.
I'm hoping this works for others as it's worked for me!
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>>521252173
She lost to a kid.
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>>521252173
I think something broke in me when Prom admitted she's not so much as a genius but more like someone whose willing to push things to see if what she thinks will happen will happen ethics be damned which kinda explains her infacuation with humanity as a whole even more, we humans do a shit load of horrible immoral things just to see what would happen and in return we get things that benefit society in the future, through at this point thanks to the rise of proud ignorance and pointless cruelty we're doing fucked up shit and learning nothing from it other than some folks masturbate to the tortured screams and cries of their victims, it's incredibly disappointing I imagine
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>>521245126
>>521248085
Jingai's influence probably had a hand in that too
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>>521252693
to be fair he's even more built different and her grandson
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>>521243424
since i ended up busier than i thought i'd be (excluding file edits) i haven't started on it yet, but that's not the direction I was going to take it
that's a good one though, i might do that too
I'm sure you'll see it once it's done
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>>521250547
Agreed
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>>521225928
granberia can punch people now if you care about that
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>>521252173
Ilias kills her sister 80% of the time going by Koron's dialogue about traveling through different AUs.
Ilias is super smart, beating out her fat sister's gene magic and brute strength through super science and deceit. She just has a rotten personality, that makes her super paranoid about everything, making things harder for herself.
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>>521252693
>kid
He is the literal son of satan.
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>>521258576
Lucifina is the daughter of god therefore she is jesus.
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>>521252441
Who is the next race of girls you are going to look into with the bugs now appearing pretty set.
Maybe the Scylla? Tentacles attacks are such a weird skill, there is no consistency with them.
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>>521257393
>Ilias is super smart
She's so retarded she snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by getting vored at the end of her route.
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>>521263348
Sub-ilias is super stupid compared to the other Ilias
She makes 6 new archangels slightly weaker than Michaela and lucifina (except Uriela), but unlike other angels, they seem to have more free will resulting in Gabriella betraying her and Raphaela almost doing the same in the Alice route
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Imagine Myusca's right in front of you, asleep and in her underwear. What would you do?
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>>521270070
Put a voice recorder in her trash can and collect it in like 5 hours
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>>521270070
Question how regular sleeping pills can knock out a reality warping monster like her, and still have to follow the "succubi must always win" rule.
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>>521270483
Fool. I choose the LOVE route!
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>The angel named Lucifina who left Heaven and abandoned God is actually Jesus
Ok Rabbi.
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>>521263348
That's mostly a symptom of Trtr not being very smart so the intelligence of any character he writes is limited.
Also Sub-Ilias is different than Ilias.
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I love you guys so much
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>>521270070
Walk away in disgust because she's bald.
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>>521270818
her body rapes you in its sleep. Somnophilia is a fetish and a succubus' body should in theory be capable of raping you even if they are knocked out or asleep.
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>>521271494
Sure, walk away. But to me? She's a keeper.
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>>521270818
It's really high dosage. Do not take them.
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>>521270904
yeah right after god literally took in a dark lord as one of her servants.

who is named
BLACK alice.
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>>521262992
>Who is the next race of girls you are going to look into with the bugs now appearing pretty set?
Sea and Land Dwellers, because their races are already all over the place: they have no actual racial skills of their own but poach multiple categories from other groups and besides the Insects they're probably the groups of girls with the most 'specialist' traits just to help keep them distinct from one-another.
Kurage and Isabelle were the first of them, since their tentacle skills actually did get a specific Sea-Dweller final skill that happens to use stinging tentacles for them to use but trtr just forgot to go back and give it to them. After I finish with the Dwellers, Plants and Scylla will probably be next.
Given the final Stinging Tentacle Skill is a multi-hit [ZZZ]-tier attack and Isabelle has innate double activation on all Tentacle Skills, now that this bug for her has been patched Isabelle might honestly be in a really good place. If you have her master Ruin Event and give her the triple-racial-chain she's going to be getting nine activations of Great Old One off each turn while also having means to further buff it's hit count and if built for it that's probably not too bad. I would assume a +30% Damage Bonus with Double-Skills beats out a +75% Damage Bonus at least.
I also like her cut-in a lot honestly, but you'll have to add it to her for Great Old One as trtr also forgot to do that too and that's not something I can change in the actor folder.
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>>521272909
Oh right also just for fun, the Sea Anemone girl will tell you that even though she can she doesn't really like to move and if you're wondering why imagine this except with her
trying to envision her doing this just cracks me up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66pvcMRDpCc
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I have to ask, was it worth giving Sonya this new stress? Eh, she's probably happy I wanna see her interact with her sister just see how that would go I mean this slut is the only person to treat Lucifina normally she's strong, perhaps human girls aren't all that far behind monsters and angels as I thought
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>>521274436
Karen was retroactively made powerful because she is the mother of an Apostle of Chaos. They mention it when you meet Karen.
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>>521271108
You can cope all you want but she's retarded and lost to a kid.
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When the fox hears the rabbit scream, he comes a-runnin'... but not to help.
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>>521275593
Literally everyone in the setting lost to that kid
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>>521276862
Lucifina won though
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>>521278456
Luka buck broke AW Lucifina into co-operating with him.
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>>521276862
The pussy never lost a single time. Luka could only avoid it in the end.
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>>521276862
Meia didnt.
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>>521279053
I thought this was about VN
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>>521271661
is that why you removed her mole
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>>521274436
>this new stress?
Yes. She deserves all the punishment for having prominent futa art that have been etched into my memory.
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>>521263348
Ilias is BFFs with Alma now
So she's gonna get vored either way.
But let's face it, Cupid has Ilias' inner thoughts, both have only ever been drawn by vore artists too.
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Myusca, my non AI generated girlfriend.
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>>521289294
She won't bite your earlobe? Be careful, anon.
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>>521289170
ilias is a fag
and alice is a cuck
ilias should fuck doppel infront of alice.
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I should fuck Ilias in front of Ilias.
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and now, i shall proceed to pleasure my wife with my penis
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>>521289807
so thats why she's called sub-ilias far less dominant than based ilias.
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Please wait warmly
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