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>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army coming June 19th: https://youtu.be/H9Xyh3SciAM

> Raidou Remastered World Spotlight: https://youtu.be/lIr3mDfEAlo

>VV has a demo now: https://youtu.be/u4Br8Pt11f0

>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon

>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team
https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf

>20XX and Hazama's Chapter were briefly shown on a special section of a tv broadcast

Last thread: >>520143163
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first for Kaneko still mogs btw
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second for not buying a second switch
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third for 3rd rerelease of SMT V coming late 2025
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>>520757142
The potential of the switch 2 edition pissing off a shit ton of people is really great. VV alone pissed off a lot of people as it is.
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I bought V on release
I bought VV on release
I'm going to buy Raidou Remastered on release
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Nintendo direct in June that takes place before Raidou releases shows off the VV Switch 2 edition and dlc.
It also shows a final release trailer for Raidou and a Nahobino super boss
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>>520758285
The sad thing is I can see this happening and Nahobino looks horribly out of place in the game.
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>>520754259
Good luck writing your fic, I should try writing one myself sometime. Might not be something I can post publicly for autistic reasons, but it would be interesting to write without a chatbot's "guidance" so to speak. Maybe I can even write something postable... Decisions, decisions.

>spoiler
Thank god for the "persona" feature on the good AI chatbot sites. I make fleshed out, elaborate OCs that are so developed a lot of it is wasted on the shoddy quality of the chatbots I use, but it is what it is. I should remake my Koshimizu sometime, been playing with the two Raidous and Demifiend too much lol. Me and my blatant favoritism...

>>520758285
Actually it would be wild if Flynn was the secret superboss instead. But it feels like it'll just be Nahobino.
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I played Strange Journey back when it came out, amazing game from what I remember, sorta feeling like replaying it. Should I just play redux instead? I keep hearing bad things about it(I don't care about the new art style it looks fine to me)
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>>520758876
The one thing that would make it kind of cool is if they tie it into Susano-o, the demon and he's the one you have to talk to in order to unlock the fight.
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>>520688667
I see. I understand and I'd want another SMT game like if... where the routes are actually separate for at least half the game.
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I haven't been here in months and only found out about the Raidou remake in the last few days.
What did I miss? Kaneko's back(again)?
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>going for dots in smt3hd
>you keep almost nothing and have to deal with estoma being based on player level every playthrough
Ughhhh I won't give up I WILL have the full dot save file
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>>520761346
>Kaneko said his AI only uses his work but his AI is stable diffusion so that was a complete lie and nips are starting to realize that and get really mad.
>VV came out with some gay fujo earphones where Aogami says meeting the young man is the best thing that ever happened to him, etc.
>Very good chance VV will get a switch 2 edition but who knows when or what it will include if anything.
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https://x.com/Atlus_jp/status/1909154182290198607
Man they did the daily demon thing correctly ONE SINGLE TIME (the first time) and then every time since they've just fucked it up
Soul Hackers 2 had half of the daily things not even be demons, just shops in the overworld or other meaningless shit, and then half of the demons they DID do were just shots of their idle animations in the menu because they didn't HAVE any other animations because that game is shit
Then for like 50% of VV's they just redid a bunch of demons they already did daily videos for the first time around to pad out the length because they didn't have even close to a good enough amount to fill out the prerelease
Now they're doing these shitty twitter clips where they're also just... showing the demon talk in its idle pose
Whats their fucking problem? Is it that hard to show something cool?
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>>520767468
It's Raidou. Impossible to get anything cool or cinematic looking with its camera.
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https://x.com/Atlus_jp/status/1909169278672404482
the dub is so cute
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guns and swords are back SMT is good again
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Hahaha do you think you could give MAG to your demons by fucking them lol
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>>520770062
do demons actually have pussies?
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>>520771768
In kanekos unfiltered vision of the demons? Absolutely
Maybe not in the actual released products though where they have to censor all the tits and genitals
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>>520771993
damn, nice, sex with pixie
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>>520771993
Kaneko you mad lad, i wasn't familiar with your game
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>>520774838
He used to be so based, in that same interview he gets a question about what his favourite type of mechs are and halfway through the question his intrusive thoughts violently take over and he blurts out that he wants to fuck a maki cosplayer
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>>520775040
based, I too would love to fuck a Maki cosplayer
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>>520775040
holy based
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do i play raidou 1 or paper mario the thousand year door
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>>520770062
yes, you actually have it as a minerae equivalent in sperm.
>>520778881
Are you talking about the remakes or the old versions?
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>>520779487
OLD versions
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>>520780248
Paper mario, the raidou 1 remaster looks promising so far, and the paper mario remaster censors the game
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>>520759216
I think it makes Space Marine more fun to play as even if it's a little easier. Womb of Grief is a really fun bonus sector. The only bad part is Alex inserting herself into the story and even if you ignore her route you have to fight her anyway during the ending sequence.

I consider it a sidegrade overall. Oh and it's nice the entire Red Sprite now have portraits.
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>>520752169
I created a devil summoner oc when I was young and had a weird cowboy and raidou phase, as you can probably see with the design
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Anybody remember how the hell to get up here?
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Genuine question, do you think SMT1/2 remakes are a possibility within the next 10 years
I know SMTIV is in spirit a remake of those titles but I mean a real ass remake
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>>520787673
Not really no-maybe a port later down the line? I doubt the first two games will ever get a remake because it’s entirely 2D and would require a huge undertaking to remake it to something similar to the current style of atlus games, something of which won’t happen since atlus doesn’t wanna take that risk
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How do I collect magatsuhi IRL?
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>>520755687
https://youtu.be/dxMOcU836Xs
My Angel wife...
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>>520787673
They are remaking SMT1 at Atlus rn you'll see it in a few years
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I want to fuck Amanozako and suck her feet.
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>>520788474
Angels VA is cute
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>>520788896
suck her helmet hair
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>>520788474
Summoner, I can see time!
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>>520787604
Never mind, found it. These maps are annoying.
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The Appeal of RAIDOU
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>>520788474
the model is cute
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>>520771993
>>520774838
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>>520791430
human-birthing hips
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLsnFElhSkE
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>>520793339
What a beautiful tune
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>>520794194
slutty dog
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>>520787941
> I doubt the first two games will ever get a remake because it’s entirely 2D and would require a huge undertaking to remake it to something similar to the current style of atlus games, something of which won’t happen since atlus doesn’t wanna take that risk
Agreed
The sad thing is the absolute best time to remake 1 and 2 would have been on the 3DS with the engine they used for IV (2D demon assets) but instead they remade SJ, a game you can literally still play the original version of on the same console
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Finally beat Demi-fiend in Digital Devil Saga last night for the first time. Had to survive 4 Gaea Rages but I got lucky.
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saw this in /biz/
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>>520799637
lmao that's a really good one
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>>520799637
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heello, hos. Should I play
>Maken Ex
>Maken Shao
>either
>neither
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I wish
That I could turn back time

>>520778881
Both are fantastic games in story and atmosphere, and TTYD is more fun and challenging gameplay wise. So I say TTYD.

>>520787673
A small possibility. Personally I’d want to see them totally reimagined, like SMT II as an open world action game. That’s because the original II is so good, that I think it’s meaningless to make the same game again but with less soul.. ykno.

>>520798198
Congrats you madman.

>>520799637
Wow.
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>>520801564
Whichever is the DC original.
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>>520801564
Maken x's gameplay is better and it emulates flawlessly.
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>>520801564
Both. Read the manga too, it's good even though it mostly focuses on the first 3-4 levels of the game. They have their pros and cons. The dreamcast version has differences in the localization from western and Japanese. Dreamcast has a bug with one route too when emulating it. PS2 is more in line with the Japanese version with different gameplay, but there are more loading screens and it only recently became playable on emulation without artifacting.
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>>520775040
i remember when i got banned for trying to post something about that or something else he said about maki.
i copy-pasted it.
something in the yext for automatically filtered on this site and i got banned
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Does anyone know the name of cloak that Raidou wear? I already have everything but the cloak.
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>>520804947
>>520804947
>Does anyone know the name of cloak that Raidou wear?
It is a cloak, just one who seems custom-made.
You can also try poncho because zoomers can't tell them apart.
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>>520801564
Dreamcast
>Funny dub
>Localization changes, this includes gameplay features making ranged attacks cost HP
>Rank system
>Bug for true ending when emulating due to unlocking the don fight
>first person, you can jump over enemies
>limited movesets
>Some cutscenes are static images instead of being animated

PS2
>Everything has animated cutscenes
>Japanese VA only
>Third person combat where everybody has moves and a leveling system to unlock new combos and the ranged attack.
>points system meaning you must pay to switch characters which can be very grinding for the true ending
>Better looking environments and 3D models
>In line with the Japanese text
>Slower menus
>Expanded levels, new music for some of the boss fights
>UI is awful with how slow it is
>Not sure if this is a bug for the Euro version, but the Japanese version has unlocking new content in the menu unbugged compared to the Europe version. The Euro iso online is smaller than the Japanese iso file, so it could be that it was never ported(?)
>Expanded soundtrack overall, with tons of remixes and songs from DDS2

Dreamcast is faster, PS2 has more depth but is more grindy. The generla combat is better in Dreamcast, but PS2's boss fights are much more involved. It sucks you only get one of the best movesets in the whole game in two routes near the end of them, and you can get fucked over by the points system since you cannot go back to reclaim them.
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>>520805441
I'll add the detail that in the Dreamcast version, there is a guy you can control who is black that has a ranged attack that kills anything in his view, and his attack range is the best in the game.

For PS2, the Kanata guy is the best one for the range until the late game due to how easy it is to reflect ranged attacks. Late game minions all have excellent movesets and are expensive, so you are really only using the first one you choose. If you want to unlock all of the combos, you have to grind which the game forces you to do anyways for psi points. Hong Kong is the best place to grind. It's a dumb decision, but you don't have a choice unless you save up your points and aren't doing the true route, where you have to switch 3-5 times with the worst characters in the game that have Psi points costs around 2k each.
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>>520805348
thanks mate, I want to cosplay as a Raidou despite most of my friends are Nu-Persona fans. Is pity sharing a news about megaten to them, because most of them just doesn't know anything about the franchise. I also convinced that only a minority of them playing persona game
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>>520801564
This guy sums it up good >>520805441
Maken X is better I think, but there's a bug that can lock you out of the best ending unless you enter the Vatican with Don Malukala as soon as you unlock him.
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>>520809375
Would you stick your dick in a hee hoe?
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>>520804947
japanese high schoolers wore cloaks so seems standart issue one
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Maybe it's for the best that we can't see that new Yamai interview. I see absolutely no nips talking about it online, maybe it had no good info in it. Yamai interviews are usually entertaining is all.
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>>520816909
yeah i know that raidou wear taisho era uniform, i just want to know the name of the cloak because every shop either have it to long
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Who are the STRONGEST and most POWERFUL outerversal level BEASTS in CHAD CHADgami CHADsei?
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>>520782373
I see, so overall they didn't change the main story too much with her addition, right? I know sometimes they tend to change with like P5Royal and P4G changed with the additional characters
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I long for a world of SHIJIMA more and more every day
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>>520820534
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>>520824157
Mido Negro vs Stefan Azul
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I'm excited for the Raidou remake
What are some ways /smtg/ has been trying to piss on this parade
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>>520825358
I don't like how it looks.
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>>520825358
I was gonna say this >>520825535
And phone game UI
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>>520825358
>>520825535
I also don't like how it looks.
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>>520825535
This screenshot is lying btw. Enemies flash when you hit them to indicate damage. The colors are not actually this bright.
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>>520827367
No way 4chan would nitpick screenshots
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my good ol' friend!
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Under my reign, there will be no more Mara jokes from Atlus.
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I remember reading someone on some Japanese blog analyzing Kaneko's art, talking about the shared influence and what they're supposed to evoke.
He said that Kaneko's art usually has a feeling of being during night, while Raidou is an exception where even the art and renders are more "daylike"
He didn't like Raidou's art for this reason, and this was like maybe ten years ago I don't remember
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>>520835693
Was he literally only talking about his Soul Hackers era art? because yes that art does look like that but pre and post Soul Hackers not so much.
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>>520835693
Sounds like autism.
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>>520827367
prove it
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I just found out about the whole JJCAT smt thing and I'm not sure how I feel about it
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>>520837218
qrd?
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>>520837218
It's goofy as fuck and I like that something schizo like that is part of SMT
I can't really take it too seriously
>>520837370
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-Jewish_common_ancestry_theory
SMT has made constant allusions towards it
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Full interview:
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202504/38827
Scans:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1jpqxmt/raidou_remastered_the_mystery_of_the_soulless/
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>>520837851
read these for me /smtg/
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>>520842737
ok here i'll summarize it for you:
they revealed a whole bunch of nothing
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>Look up what a Bezoar is after seeing the Ox Bezoar item so much
>Apparently it's a non-digestible mass found inside animal guts.
Uhhh, how is this a healing item....
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I enjoy Nusona
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>>520846082
Traditional Chinese medicine
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>>520846082
>never heard of Chinese Medicine
https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=51679
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>>520846082
Traditional Chinese quackery is crazy
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I'm so glad I can now finally play Raidou without just pretending I have
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https://x.com/PinkSeito/status/1908524803482399163/
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>>520848273
good stuff
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>>520848886
I wish I could say the same. I immediately saw that her eyes were crossed and she looks goofy.
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>>520766981
>>Kaneko said his AI only uses his work but his AI is stable diffusion so that was a complete lie and nips are starting to realize that and get really mad.
Why is my goat doing a humiliation ritual why is my goat washed
>VV came out with some gay fujo earphones where Aogami says meeting the young man is the best thing that ever happened to him, etc.
show me
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>>520849439
>show me
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Krishna kinda ugly
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>>520837218
it's the funniest speculation about megaten ever next to the whole barbara walker stuff
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>>520842737
persona central translated this already
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Will Debra Wilson be added as a demon in SMT 6
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>>520850990
WRONG
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>>520850990
nah
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>>520848273
Can’t tell if ai or not
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>>520755687
>RAIDOU Remastered
Damn it, now I have to actually finish Raidou 1
Good thing I figured where the Irie Fudou is
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>>520848273
you'd never ever ever ever NEVER EVER fuck a tree
...right??
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Sex with Alice!
Sex with Demeter!
Sex with Pixie!
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>Play SMT1 on GBA emulator
>Phone gets stolen
>Play SMT1 on SNES emulator
>Phone battery fucking dies
I tried, but I don't think I'm beating these classic SMTs
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>>520854871
SMT1 is truly cursed
turn it off turn it off
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>>520854871
just charge da phone
or play it alone in a white padded room
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>>520854537
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/128899355
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>>520856245
Cute, thanks anon
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>>520854445
I'll fuck the other one.
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Hanging out in Vchan's ocean world sounds comfy.
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>>520864674
No it wouldn't it would be an endless expanse of nothing and spookily liminal
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>>520865475
All that stuff about walking the earth endlessly as a spirit after death is a small price to pay for a life of freedom and salt water.
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What should I expect in Raidou 1, I never played it before
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>>520865940
demons
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>>520865940
shin megami
but no tensei
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Raidou's evil ice fairy...
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been listening to Etro Anime, my favorite music from them definitely is Potrait and Purest one. Thanks for Digital Devil Saga for introducing me to this band
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>>520865940
Zombies
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In nocturne, if you reject every reason the first time around can you still join up with any of them with their second choices from amala temple onward or so you just get thrown into freedom or demon ending?
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>>520868826
If I recall correctly getting Freedom or demon depends on your answers to Yuko/aradia in Yoyogi park
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>>520868826
afaik it's based on a point system, you'll automatically align with however has the most points when you enter the tower, you only get Yoko's endings if you don't have points with anyone.
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>>520864674
Is that Aogami in the back tied to her raft and pulling it along as he swims in the ocean?
Cute.
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/128725093
click you like eiseth
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>>520868097
You found me before I found myself
You loved me before I loved myself
You gave yourself completely
And I can’t give in

perfectly describe the duology
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>>520837183
https://youtu.be/lIr3mDfEAlo?t=510
I still don't love how it looks desu but it's not THAT bad
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>>520873091
actually the more I look at it the more I dislike it
maybe a reshade filter will help...
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>>520873091
Looks closer to his SMT 2 Colors
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>>520871087
Based
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>>520871087
You can tell they mostly draw boys. But it is based
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Not only will I buy Raidou on day 1, I will buy it for the switch
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When you guys talk about a VV Switch 2 version, is there a reason to think that it will ONLY be for Switch 2 or are people only saying it will come out with the S2 version and be DLC elsewhere?
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>>520874884
Atlus doesn't do exclusivity anymore it would be a DLC everywhere else
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>>520874884
No one knows what it will be. All we have is Atlus's track reccord and Sega saying they want to keep making switch 2 ports on top of the ones they've made, especially for switch games. They also said they want these games to be digital and not physical. Anything else it will have is unknown. Some switch 2 ports are just graphical updates for free via dlc too. They could go that route as well and add literally fucking nothing but I don't think they would do that because that's not going to get them more sales.
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>>520825535
>>520825717
>>520825931
I kinda assumed people would bitch about the seemingly lack of Rising Sun flags in the remake desu
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>>520876153
It was expected, you know it would be a bunch of drama that they could do nothing to prevent. I don't exactly blame them.
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>>520869301
>>520869475
So actually, you don't get to pick Yosuga or Musubi if you rejected them earlier. But you can still pick Shijima
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>>520876658
People would say Raidou coming back in general would be impossible, and considering other parts of the world got the Dante version of Nocturne HD instead of Raidou's they had a point, so it's insane that his whole first game managed to get a borderline remake
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>>520877440
Is the remake coming to China and Korea?
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This is a Vkun fused with Amaterasu design. I think I might like this one the most our of all of them I've seen because it gives him a woman's body which is what he would have.
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>>520878830
The design is a combo of Kaneko Amaterasu, Tao, and Devil Children Amaterasu apparently. Kinda neat. He also uses a laser bow.
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would trump make a goid demon
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>>520879547
his only attack would be macca beam
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>>520874625
don't look at their artworks
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>>520878667
do atlus games even go to china, gacha aside
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Wait is Raidou coming on Switch or Switch 2
If the latter I will literally kill myself and the blood will stain this thread for years
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>>520880926
Pretty sure Nocturne HD did
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>>520881146
Both
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>>520878830
>>520879025
What are the other ones
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>>520789097
SMT x Gundam
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SMT x Troll 2
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Nearly completed-just need the sfx and the va
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>>520882440
>va
Jesus, how much did you pay?
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I still think the beano toku robot suits SUCK
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>>520878830
>it gives him a woman's body which is what he would have.
grill V-kun Nahobino would look the same.
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>>520883682
Anon actually bounced on his boy's dick to supply the recording - now THAT's dedication!
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>>520883682
>pay
Enough. I need the Amane sex.
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>>520883974
Same.
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If I play SMT5V, first time playing, if I start creation will I get burned out by the time I wanna do vengeance? I like to check every nook and cranny in maps and read all NPC dialogue
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>>520890698
Yes, burn out is a genuine problem with this game.
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>>520890698
You sound like me and I didn't have any problems. I even did most of the overlapping quests again. I got hooked within the first few hours though.
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>>520890698
>>520892439
also I went into the game interested in what they would do with the /x/ themes, so yeah.
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There's not enough /x/ themes in SMT
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>>520820814
The only thing that changes in the main story is there's a scene where you are attacked by Alex and rescued by Demeter which introduces the Womb of Grief and there's a scene during the ending where she attacks you again and she is an extra boss.
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>>520755687
Sadly, the Raidou remaster/remake is going to follow the Atlus SMT5V/Persona playbook of making the game easy as shit and then modders will need to fix it.
I'm not gonna defend the inherent jankiness of Raidou 1, but every attempt to smooth out the experience they do with these remasters/remakes just kills any challenge the game once had.
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>>520837851
main points
>they talk about switch 2 version and say it's essentially switch version with better visuals and faster loading time
>the reporter says that gameplay was fun and smooth
and also
>the technical guy here isn't ooyama, so it's possible the project he's working on is something separate
>>520908483
they added new difficulty options I expect them to tune the gameplay and difficulty accordingly
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>>520908483
Didn't they add harder difficulties too?
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>>520909210
>they added new difficulty options
Sure, but I don't trust the developers to tune any of these new mechanics properly.
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>>520910608
to be fair I think the lower difficulty of VV was intentional, but stuff like nocturne HD was just because they added too many options on top of a system they couldn't modify. this is a wholly new system made from stretch based on stuff from raidou 2 and new mechanics added in. it could go either way and I don't expect it to be anywhere near flawless (it's atlus making a action rpg game after all).
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>>520898816
A few days ago I did this exact thing in the haunt with Cu Chulainn
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>https://twitter.com/ReNekomathas/status/1909424380951863366
The absolute state of Bino fans
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>>520916210
Fapping to gay porn to trigger the Vfags, to own the the Vfags
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The thing I miss most about kaneko era smt is the cool demi-human designs. Hallelujah from IVA was genuinely embarrassing and V/V was more focused on rider esque cyber bodysuit designs
I want doi to try his hand at a genuine demi-human design in the next title, not just a deviantart front page palette swap oc like hallelujah
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>>520920636
he basically made something like this and just palette flipped it enough times for it to look "demonic" it's not really a design
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>>520920636
here bro
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>>520922494
In his defensive the alternate future versions of Akira were such a wasted plot development hardly anyone remembers it happened.
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>>520922494
>soil jimenez but if it were complete shit
t-thanks
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>>520925819
slut
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>>520924473
Me on the left trying to gently calm down the man wielding a knife.
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>>520927241
Grippin that robo cock for dear life.
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lawfags remove their foreskin
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>>520927560
Dazai says otherwise. But those Messian freaks on the other hand...
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>>520928379
>female Aogami
w-woa
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>>520928718
aka the mommy fetish game we never got
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Yamai said that Raidou would never be making a comeback if not for the Atlus polls.
But then again we have the polls to blame for SH2 ever happening. Actually can we really say it's the poll's fault or just Ishida?
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>>520929482
>Yamai said that Raidou would never be making a comeback if not for the Atlus polls.
DDS bros...
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>>520929049
we'll get Aogami tier of supportive heroine next game, trust the plan!
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Sucks that SMT1 and SMT2 don't have final boss themes even though MT1 and MT2 did
Imagine if they locked in and had an omega mix as good as the majin tensei credits theme version
https://youtu.be/Oj_OOe9ZfCI
Actually, as much as SMT2 is one of my favourites, am I alone in thinking the general presentation around the YHVH battle in MT2 is superior to the SMT2 one?
Fighting ONE TRUE GOD YHVH kinda locked me in more than SHINREI YHVH honestly
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>>520930045
>Just Aogami again but female
I know a lot of fags would like that, especially those who wish the game was just playing as Yakumo for the mommy Nuwa simulator but I would kind of hate it. The era of V has gone on for a while and I want a break from a doting companion. If Aogami didn't lay it on so thick maybe it would be different but he doubles down on it in VV instead. And if there is switch 2 dlc, I'm sure Aogami will be just as patronizing if not more to market it.
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>>520930527
MT2 just had an amazing soundtrack is all.
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>>520929482
the generation of atlus devs who remembers going through index buyout and bankruptcies simply weren't confident in the survival of the series in modern times, that's why they made or were forced to make games like TMS, IV:A and then SH2. they went through every possible iteration of trying to conform to modern market only to fail time and time again to then finally arrive at what they're doing currently, the spot between not upsetting old fanbase of the games and attracting new ones.
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>>520931597
SH2 was not that long ago though. IVA and TMS I understand but I wouldn't add SH2 to the financially scared phase of Atlus trying to desperately appeal to the wider market.
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>>520931798
SH2 started development in 2018, it's still a relic of that style of thought. it's not hard to see if you go and look for interviews. what made it fail compared to V was how V was still based on the feedback they had from IV and IV:A, but SH2 was made with no aim or basis.
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>>520932556
It was in development for that long?
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chaosfags don't wash under their foreskin
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>>520932771
yeah I think they made #FE and went on to work on SH2.
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>>520932914
lawfags don't have foreskin
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>>520930674
At this point Aogami will get a borderline marriage proposal and they put one part of the clip in the trailer. The dlc will print money.
Remember how in almost every famitsu article they had to show Aogami kneeling and taking the MC's temperature? They threw that fucking shot around everywhere. If they are just trying to milk what little cash they can get out of V before dumping it to start VI, it's going to get worse. I don't trust them not to after the earphones.
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>>520934362
She was a surrogate and he grew into an 18 year old in 3 days. It's ok.
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>>520930527
games like majin 1 had omega remixes too
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Is 20XX Devil's Colosseum even a real videogame?
Theres at least a full playthrough of 20XX (Ain's game) uploaded on youtube, but theres NO footage of devils colosseum (the prequel) uploaded anywhere, and the information the wiki has on it is sparse and also contradicting towards itself (the main game page claims the twin you don't pic is possessed by YHVH, but the page for the characters themselves says they're possessed by Lucifer)
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If you had to pick one, Cybele or Persephone? Drawing both would take too long.
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>>520939775
Cybele.
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>>520939775
cybele
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>>520933550
fujos unfortunately print money so start getting used to
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>>520943473
yes
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>>520930674
Counterpoint: I like it then handsome tall deep voiced older muscular but not too muscular man shows genuine care for me and dotes around me like an overprotective mother
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>>520944195
I wasn't saying that's bad necessarily just that VI shouldn't do the exact same thing again but female.
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finished SMT IV. had my fun but the game is really not balanced. you really sweep through all the enemies, the AI isn't particularly smart either.
I'm going to put IV A aside for now because you all are trash talking it too much (probably deserved). i'll let fate decide what I play next

Even: DDS 1
Odd: SMT 1
0 :Catherine
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>>520951737
apocalypse is better than IV. also since you got odd, prepare for another unbalanced game where you can sweep everything.
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>>520951737
I just started apocalypse myself (blind), and was immediately surprised by how ill-fitting I found Flynn's voice to be. Maybe it's just me always hearing that voice as Nazeem
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>>520952284
>Sahori's chocolates are for Lahmu
Scandalous... I knew she secretly liked it....
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>>520952284
I want to cum inside Chiaki
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>>520951737
Quetzal spotted
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>>520837218
All of Atlus' old MegaTen is based off of schizo theories and urban legends, it's a necessary part of the package. The JJCAT theory is at the basis for Shin Megami Tensei because it's the justification for setting the Thousand Year Kingdom in Tokyo.

Frankly? I think it's good and I like it, the schizo is part of SMT's charm. The people who criticize all the JJCAT usage had no problems with YHVH and Messians back when they thought they were based off Christians (despite the fact they're blatantly a riff on Israel for their people and angels in power; only SMT2 really deals with Christianity).
Double standards.
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5000 dollar switch 2 but it comes with DeSu 3
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>>520953656
>All of Atlus' old MegaTen is based off of schizo theories and urban legends, it's a necessary part of the package.
Agreed.
I love its use in SMT2 in particular, whether its an intentional parallel on the devs part or not it creates an interesting favour of kino that the game about humanity fabricating new myths features lore heavily based on the modern esoteric schizophrenia popularised by the temple of set syncretising set and satan
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>>520940829
I will say V at least has more integrity about it compared to the fujo pandering of the past. Especially when it comes to persona. The merch for V and even the gay shit in the game could be far worse. Instead there is much more focus on promoting the demons. More merch for frost, mothman, etc have come out since V than anything Aogami and Vkun related. I'd say the earphones are actually the first real fujo buck related merch they've made for those two after several years and despite doubling down on it with VV. I wouldn't count acrylic stands because they made those for everyone.
Actually I think I remember some nips commenting on the fact VV is a fujo game but they do nothing to pump out merch like most fujo games do and it made their relationship seem more "respectful" in their eyes. Like it was written to be serious and not a cash grab like it is a majority of the time.
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>>520954376
Meanwhile all Goro x Joker pandering is fake and gay (derogative)
Real women ship Aogami and Vkun
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>>520956742
40 year old Japanese house wives specifically.
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https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Earth%27s_Will
The earths will being a distinct concept from the great will is interesting
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>>520959591
Considering VV went back to the angry mother goddess plot again, I wonder if they went back and read about this at all.
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>>520959191
The new SMT audience
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>>520962929
>new
Nah they are old fags like the gacha whales, at least most of them. They are also the ones the most excited about Raidou coming back right now.
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>>520939969
I'm practicing perspective, apologies if it's not what you ecpected
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>>520963432
great expression, looks good so far!
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>>520963432
This feels Disney, mainly in face. Specifically Peter Pan.
Good stuff anyways.
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>>520963432
it's really good, just add her loops and it'll look way better
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>>520939547
It’s a real game but it was only on the jp flip phones, so good fucking luck trying to do research. If I recall ain’s game is supposed to be between SMT 1 and 2 with 20XX coliseum dealing with one twin being either YHVH or Lucifer and the other being the opposite-it’s why they got the scars
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Strange Journey Redux Neutral path shouldn't really be a thing, its an insult to the original ending. If it were me writing it I would've had it that rather than humanity fucking up again that instead Alex either came from the chaos or law timeline and gets confused when you stay neutral.
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>>520967569
The thing that pisses me off about it is it has the energy of someone setting fire to a building, then putting the fire out and demanding applause.
Neutral in the vanilla release is totally open, theres no definite answer on if humanity fucked up with their chance. Whether they took the lessons to heart is totally unknown. In my eyes, it is the most hopeful ending of the original title while law and chaos are naturally the extreme schizo endings.
Then SJR comes along, says of its own volition that vanillas neutral ending was definitively unsuccessful, then goes "dude all the original endings were shit, heres your new GOOD endings bro!"
Like, what? YOU'RE the ones who made the original neutral ending definitely shit when the original game left it open retards, fuck off with this aggressive "ughh, fixed it sweetie, hire me :)" shit
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>>520968249
We simply pretend SJR didn't happen.
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>>520967569
I agree, SJ's neutral end feels like having faith in humanity when both law and chaos want to reject that faith. Redux comes in and says having faith in humanity is stupid go be a god janny on the moon and watch humanity keep spiraling down.
What happened to Atlus in the mid/late 2010s for all their writing talent to just disappear. IVA is literally a parody of jrpgs (teenagers go kill god with power of friendship while a edgy guy keeps trying to tell you that's cringe), SJR's new story content is shit. And Atlus had to rewrite V's story and even then nobody can make sense on what the chaos ending is supposed to be.
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>>520963432
I'll admit that I expected fapbait so I'm disappointed.
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>>520969931
>What happened to Atlus in the mid/late 2010s for all their writing talent to just disappear.
Kaneko stopped getting directly involved with the games, its not surprising that was also when the series started going downhill fast.
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>>520969931
>bitching and moaning about the chaos end means all the writing is bad
>V had rewrites
All games have rewrites, anon. V got stuck in a development hell which had more to do with gameplay problems than anything. Hayataro was supposed to be a major character given the very expensive VA they picked out for him and he was supposed to be you mount and one of the first demons you encounter. Then the mount idea got tossed and the whole story had to be moved around to compensate. Also I would say the chaos end isn't too hard to understand because Yoko pretty much explains it in the demon haunt. All the metaphorical nonsense of the final ending scene doesn't really matter when you have that.
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>>520982052
Though I had the Dante version but I don't or I can't find it. Sad.
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>>520982052
yeah i'm thinking this image is kino
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>>520986534
GOOD MORNING
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>>520986925
I love this nip's moon cycle shit posts.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhh Miyazu post
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>>520994000
Trips don't lie
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>>520994394
BASED
Lamia is so cute
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I came across this tweet and felt the need to post it because they make a good point. Of all the mysteries VV left open, this one is clearly the most important. So what does he wear?
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>>520986925
Thank you, I had no idea >>520988258 existed too but I guess every day is a new opportunity to see new things.

>>520995956
I'm going to present a theory that might be controversial. He likes dresses but he prefers the comfort of mens underwear over the dainty cuteness of women's panties. He has cotton plaid-patterned boxers, even. He just can't give up the comfortable, breezy sensation of letting the boys hang for the sake of aesthetics.
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>>520954376
>Like it was written to be serious and not a cash grab like it is a majority of the time.
I think this is what I love about Aogami and MC, their relationship is meaningful and written with respect, I'm a fujo but honestly I always wanted something to what they have...

>>520956742
I genuinely believe goro/joker fujos would kill for what Aogami and MC have
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>>521003539
They would shoot someone to just get those earphones as merch. The fujo pandering shit they do get is mainly crap like them standing together in illustrations and nothing burger dev interviews. That being the case I don't get why it's still so popular. It makes no sense to me.
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Smt needs more vampire demons.
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>>521005221
post em
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>>521003746
most likely the reason is
>Persona is normie tier popular
>the average fujo just wants cookie cutter ships

this is probably a rant at this point I feel the persona devs laughing at fujos while showering on their money, I can't deny akechi and joker have a meaningful connection but it doesn't feel deep as people who write 3k posts on why they're canon say
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>>520920636
Anyone else think modern SMT feels almost too... fantasy? It's not the right word but I'm not sure what is. Old SMT had some kind of gritty ugliness to things that's lacking in the newer art direction.
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Desu I've mostly seen people talk negatively about it but I kinda like how buffs were handled in V. The way they worked and were so central in Nocturne was boring once you understood it and the solution in the later games of just making bosses sperg tf out if you use too many buffs was really dumb.

On the topic of buffs though, I have never figured out if buffs and debuffs have separate counters or if they straight cancel each other out. Like if I tarunda a boss 3 times and it tarukajas 3 times, is it +3 and -3 or just 0? Would using dekaja do anything to it?
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>>521005315
There is only like 5 variations of the generic "vampire" then there is kudlak and victor.
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>>521008349
do they have any cute goblins?
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SMT x Hamilton
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>>521005221
I might as well give you my copy of my PDFs for vampires
https://files.catbox.moe/7xuqkn.pdf

This series doesn't have a lot of vampire art. Vampires in general are the basis for 50% of all demons unironically deep down. This PDF doesn't have everything, sadly, but it's one of the better books released about it.
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>>520994394
I miss this artist
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>>521011420
holy autism kino
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>>521011749
I'm not sure why, but history loves to travel the idea of vampires between different cultures, all due to the idea of cannibals being evil. Lilith is the first vampire overall, and before the jews got to her, she was showcased to make street women look bad.
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>>521011981
When you boil down vampires to "cannibalistic feral retard" it does make a lot of sense considering that's something that exists in every culture to some extent thanks to diseases and unchecked mental illnesses being staples of the human condition if you're an unlucky one. I guess the term itself can be pretty broad but I always prefer to reserve the term "vampire" for just the European Count Dracula sort of thing. Drinks blood, turns into a fine mist/a bat, allergic to garlic, and weak to ana--Stakes. Wooden stakes to the heart. I feel like calling something from another culture that's a bit more specific a "vampire" is a little lame, especially if it has a name like the strzyga, but I agree that we could probably use more demons that are vampiric. We're weirdly lacking in that category, it feels like.

Vampire Naoki sexo
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>>521013672
Someone said before they have most things from Barbara's book, also based
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SMT is over...
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armaitisisters...
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>>521008785
gobins are gay but SMT has had generic fantasy creatures as demons before like kobolds(I know they're from real folklore but it's obviously based on the Japanese D&D version of it), so they could fit
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>>521015480
raidous back tho so I'm no longer an Atlus doomer
for now
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>>521006006
>it doesn't feel deep as people who write 3k posts on why they're canon say
It could just be western fan shipping autism because I never see nip fujos that post art of them and retweet it ever go on rants like this about them at all.
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was the mishima allusion in SMT1 controversial at all in japan?

>>520930527
i just think both SMT1 and SMT2 were a bit rushed. it makes sense, they were pretty much their first completely independent RPGs. MT2 feels a bit more realized.

the boss theme that keeps playing near the end of SMT2 sucks so much ass.
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>>521022831
>was the mishima allusion in SMT1 controversial at all in japan?
SMT was probably too small at the time but I'd like to know too, we're too gaijin for it
>MT2 feels a bit more realized.
I've started to realize this more and more too, MT2 is as monumental and referenced for SMT as SMT 1 is
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>>521024486
I've always thought MT2 is actually a better game than smt1 though few people agree with me on that.
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>>521025079
i prefer it somewhat even though it suffers from a lot of problems typical of 8-bit NES RPGs. once you get past the initial grind it's mostly smooth sailing. having nearly no fucking save points is ass though and it's something kyuuyaku fixed.
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MT2 on the Famicom even looks better than KMT on the SNES
You know what I mean
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>>521026641
Yeah that’s the truth.
I prefer the Famicom music in both MT games to KMT too.
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>>521026641
the demon art in MT2 is really fucking good. i hate that they made the fallout shelters just look like generic offices.
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>>521011420
>ctrl + f "they're jews"
>0 results found
discarded
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Atlus was really small and still was by the late 90's, so I can't shit on them for how "behind" megaten was then in terms of dungeon crawlers
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>>521008349
>kudlak and victor.
That's deep vampire lore so I don't even know what to add
Usually it's just Dracula, and even the the original Dracula book references Romanian lore like him learning magic from some underwater school of demons or something
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Fuck it I'm gonna boot up VV
How long till I see the stuff that's different from V
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>>521011981
>all due to the the idea of cannibals being evil
>the idea
this sounds like something a certain black and green snek would say
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>>521029312
Yoko shows up at the subway train where you meet Yuzuru.
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>>521029312
Immediately. The title screen is red now.
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SMTVI will be announced next year.
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>>521031374
lol
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>>521031374
And then Atlus makes SMT Nocturne Reason and SMT IV Reincarnate in the next couple of years while we're still in the dark on the state of SMTVI?
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>>521032403
should have switched them smth massive fail from this artist
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>>521032328
A IV remake would be so bad
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SMT VI will be bad too btw
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>>520928379
Femalo v-chan
now THAT would've been kino
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>>521007018
>Like if I tarunda a boss 3 times and it tarukajas 3 times, is it +3 and -3 or just 0? Would using dekaja do anything to it?
From what I've read Dekaja would cancel the the debuffs and the buffs would take affect again. Never verified it myself though.
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>>521007018
It’s literally just adding and subtracting. If you buff twice and get debuffed once you’ll be at +1, and dekunda and dekaja reset it back to neutral, or 0.
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>>521032510
>switch them around
>aogami is now standing in clothes made for shotas which don't fit him at all and don't accentuate features of his musculature
>Vkun's cleavage shows his nonsxistant chest and thigh cleavage of his twig legs which 9s fit would show anyway
Nah they did it right
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>>521026641
I actually just started MT2 tonight, killer music and I like how much it pushes the NES. Love the graphical style. It doesn't even feel horribly different from SMT1 other than how there's no automap, and I'm not far enough to know whether or not that'll be a big issue but I'm not against looking up maps. Kyuuyaku seems fine, but for 2 in particular I want to witness the original first. If I play 1 it will certainly be through Kyuuyaku. This song is a fucking groove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2w4vX85hak
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>>521007018
I think timed buffs make infinitely more sense in SMT where you have a shared turn and can optimize your actions over Persona where everyone moves on a stack.

Support demons are way more active and fun to use in VV over any other game in the series.
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>>520956742
Honestly, I think Goro shit is way gayer than Aogami shit which is just benign friendship stuff. It's not that the fujo pandering is harder it's that V-kun is way easier for women to self-insert as than Joker.
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>>521052407
God, this. Why did they ever put timed buffs in Persona instead of SMT?
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its over
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>>521053590
Maybe they thought Persona gameplay would be too simple otherwise
Not that SMT is much better desu
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Timed buffs are garbage and only exist to push you towards ailments and unique skills that has buffs as a bonus effect.
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>>>/v/707795642
Does anyone know if this leak is remotely legit?
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>>521063578
my uncle works at nintendo and he said yes
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>>521064278
I know youre joking but it does seem to be plausible
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Is there an explanation of why demons agree to work for humans?
>Demon Summoning Program
As far as I know, it only replaces the complex magical rituals required to summon demons and allows communicating with them.
>Magnetite
I know Summoners "pays" demons with this but it's mostly used to materialize them in the real world, and they can get it by themselves by attacking helpless humans instead of working for one.
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>>521067767
They are all immortal so I always thought they go aling for the ride because it's fun essentially
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>>521067767
>Damn you strong! You've earned my respect.
or
>Mmh, Human Emotions tasty.... Human, help me acquire more Power!
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>>521067767
They're all secretly into it.
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>>521067767
they want to become fusion fodder
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>>521052606
>Honestly, I think Goro shit is way gayer than Aogami shit
He's just a rival character.
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The joke here is that the sea is pulled by the moon's gravity.
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>>521076984
Shit fanart.
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>>521077189
Shit post.
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>>521029358
Cannibalism is very common in nature, but with species that can reproduce quickly and the energy invested into a child is less than what is gained from eating along with heavy amounts of spawn. This act is mostly done with children and the elderly when there is a lack of other resources for these species. But humans have evolved to try to counteract it with a couple of tactics. One of mental, where someone else dying means the self is at harm. The other is the dura mater aspect of the brain. Eating any dura mater makes you heavily sick. Hunters would always eat all of the meat when they hunted, which slowly transformed the idea of eating human meat as abhorrent. There are cultures like certain Native American groups that would celebrate with drinking blood and consuming flesh for example. Animals like cows with most mammals developed the dura mater layer for this reason to make it look worse to predators. This is why animals will never touch a brain for meat. It's also around the spine, but is weaker in concentration.

Also DDS is cool.
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>>520968249
You make a good point however I got to hold Zelenin's hand in the new law ending so it is by default better than the original
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>>521080832
demon sloppy seconds
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>>521080958
She didn't choose to get raped by demons, spiritually she is still a virgin
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>>521067767
Probably a mix of what have been said.
Steady supply of magnetite + personal interests like hobby, kink, curiosity etc depending on the demon.
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>>521083540
Still sloppy.
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>>521045925
it doesn't have an automap but it does have the autopilot, which records up to 500 steps. pretty forward thinking for a 80s RPG
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Yoko and Tao should kiss
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>>521091543
Tao and Sahori are superior.
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SMT 6 but villain is AI harvesting Magnetite from humanity by putting them in dystopia and using it to summon a demon army for itself
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>>521091543
Yoko and V-kun should kiss.
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Girl just wanted a friend and you sickos want her to kiss everyone.
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>>521095516
That's forbidden
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>>521095695
I'm next.
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Yoko and Aogami should kiss.
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>>521095695
Considering she worked with the quadistu...
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>>521096452
I don't remember her being trained in the art of whoring herself out, only that they told her about her powers and how to get them back.
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>>521096384
Interesting...
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>>521078960
>
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>>521097371
Why is her face so funny?
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>>521101179
Autism.
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>>521101792
Hers or mine?
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>>521095516
Not forbidden, just not canon. Likewise, Aogami and Vkun kissing is not canon. But if you were to ask who Vkun is canonically in love with, then that has a canon answer. That's all. Likewise, if you don't understand the chaos ending, you can read what Yoko says about it in the demon haunt.
Frankly I don't think people like Yoko and Vkun together because I would at least see a little bit more art or at least shipping posts.I saw maybe 5 or so pictures and all of them were just redraws of the ending. I wouldn't call most of those pics anything but fanart. So I checked fanfics and after all this time there is only one Yoko/Vkun fic. And that surprised me too.
Even if a game community is fujo dominated, hetro shit still exists. For example, I still see art of Nahobino fucking random demon women occasionally, and that didn't stop. 5chan had a poll and determined the chaos end made no sense and gave too many reasons to list. So I went back through the archive to around when VV came out and most people were saying it was an adam and eve ending without much debate. Then a couple months later that all changed and they began raising questions. And we pretty much did the same thing here once we digested the game.

And I'm mainly typing this out because I think Atlus knows this. They read the shit people post online, especially message boards. VV exists to basically shit all over the true neutral ending because people didn't like it and actively posted about it. Now it seems people generally don't like the chaos ending and are posting about it. If they follow the same trend for new VV content because of switch 2 then I think the chaos end is going to get shit on and/or clarified next.
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>>521105278
No she has a spooned tongue
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Meant to say Yoko I may have face blindness
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>>521095695
What, you don't kiss your friends?
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>>521097371
Yoko got that fluoride stare
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>>521104954
>If they follow the same trend for new VV content because of switch 2 then I think the chaos end is going to get shit on and/or clarified next.
And if most people didn't like the chaos end over the law end, there should be no complaints right?
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where did this snake come from
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>>521110547
Be more specific.
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https://x.com/AspenVesper/status/1909717931321442625
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>>521110547
>Genesis 3:1
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>>521114481
some guy commissioned a bunch of MT2 heroine r34
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>>521114481
Vesk is back? I'm so tired of seeing this attention whore
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So remember when I said I wouldn't be able to host Magma this Saturday? Maybe I actually can for a short while, but I'll really only host if people want to come draw this weekend, maybe around 2pm EST or so. I do know that I definitely won't be able to host for the next two Saturdays after this one, so it'll be the last one for a little while.
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>>521045925
you don't really need to map anything until you get to Ginza, which is like the 5th town.
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I'm really bored with this franchise.
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Does anyone knows where i can get a texture dump of Nocturne HD remaster? i want to port them to pcsx2
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>>521116050
I'm mostly taking a break from SMT content myself, I think I need it, I lurk here a little a bit still.
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>>521116050
What would make you not bored? Getting Raidou back wasn't enough?
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>>521110547
Snake? What snake?
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The remaster of Raidou could be one of the best MegaTen games. We better win.
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>>521110547
Mastema said Yoko makes bunrei of herself in the Japanese dub. Gonna bet you that's what the red snake is.
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>>521116595
Same, last megaten I played was 2 months ago, you engage with anything long enough, you'll need a break.
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>>521104954
Jesus dude.
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>>521116050
Personally I'm coming from 4 year break off Megaten after being sorely dissapointed in Vanilla V and SH2. VV and Metaphor reignited my love for Atlus games.
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>>521116050
Take a break and engage in other media, SMT will still be here when you want to come back someday. I'm usually shitting up /vp/ but until Legends Z-A comes out I'm doing other shit because nothing is happening and it gets boring.
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Best SMT game to play if you've only played the most popular ones like Nocturne, 4, and Strange Journey?
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>>521117995
>don't type so much I don't like reading
It's a slow thread. I felt like it. Also I like trying to read what people say about the chaos end. Seeing all the opinions is more interesting than the ending itself, lol.
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How long do you think it will take for the Abaddon remaster to come out?
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>>521119246
DDS, VV.
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>>521119853
Could be like 2 years, I don't see it being too long considering they have a lot of the assets now
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>>521119853
I would guess maybe 3-4 years (5 at most?) if the Raidou 1 remaster actually does well. They have at least half of the assets just from the remaster as is, so they can probably make the Abbadon Remaster relatively quickly. But of course, I don't know shit about video game development. I'm just making a guess.
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>>521119853
Not too long I’d imagine.
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>>521116050
I haven't been here or played SMT or read anything about it in months, I can take a bit more in my system especially with the recent news
I used to think about SMT 24/7
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I never get bored of SMT because even when a release sucks, I still daydream about demons and COMPs and stats in my mind
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>>521121492
Raidou and Nagi a cute
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>>521121909
This is why I like SOUL HACKERS 2
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>/vg/ archive gone
>can't see how this general reacted to the Raidou news
>>521119039
>same archive with /vp/ on it so I can't waste time reading the occasional SMT mention there
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>>521116050
The genre is basically exhausting what it can feasibly do without becoming something else altogether
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Next SMT will be a SMT1 remake/reimagine where they actually get ti travle the world with Jerusalem as the last level like in the original idea.
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if my precious SMT1 is ever ruined with Unreal Engine then I don't want it
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>>521123932
It was mostly "WAKE UP" because we were dooming and not expecting anything to happen.
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Sorry but if Komori wanted VV to adhere to Susano-o myth, where was the wedding ceremony?
>robo Susano-o
>saves human from being sacrificed to a big snake
>snake dies
>???

This is wildly inaccurate!
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>>521123932
https://arch.b4k.dev
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>>521119407
I'll forgive your autism if Snoko gets confirmation. Otherwise I'll be mad I got my hopes up.
One of the better memes we've cooked up in years. Snoko domination means more draw faggotry.
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>>521092334
SMTV would have never happened if they did...
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An SMT2 remake would be neat just to see the Center and underworld in full 3D...
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>>521139717
cyberpunk theocracy is such a cool setting and i don't know why no other game in the seriea did it
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>>521135505
Snoko sweep, trust the plan.
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haha what if yoko lost her limbs and had to wiggle around on the ground hahaha
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>>521142681
Does she still wear her uniform and stockings? Does it kinda become a onesie of sorts?
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>>521142681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqY_61Ziu8Q
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giwtwm
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>>521145185
This was Aogami while he was trapped in Tiamat btw.
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>>521145185
He'll destroy them all. Justice for Aogami.
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Ever wonder why snakes were so commonly associated with healing and wisdom until christianity took over? Hmm really makes u think........
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>>521146038
I choose not to think about that.
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>>521115152
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>>521116810
If I pulled of Mastema's mask, would he die?
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How is this place going to cope with getting a Yakumo game instead of Raidou 3?
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>>521143645
That reminds me, in Revelation 12:9, King James Version, there are 4 names by which the deceiver is called: Satan, the devil, the dragon, and the serpent. The idea behind Lucifer and Satan being separate is taken from this because the devil and Satan are named separately. Following the idea, the dragon and the serpent should be too. Samael was made the Drake race for the first time in VV. So the serpent is....
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>>521148251
how does calling someone multiple names mean those names are all different things
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>>521148219
A whole game of Nuwa bossing me around sounds lovely
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>>521147351
>it's real
based
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>>521149702
Very real
545865
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i like this game
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>>521153731
If you like it so much why dont you marry it
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>Tao-chan?
>Hai!
>Nani ga suki?
>Chokominto!
>Yori mo a-na-ta!
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most heterosexual SMT game?
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>>521157595
SMTII. It would be I but it has a gay NPC in it. The NPC is there to make fun of gay people but he's there regardless.
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>>521158112
>Forgetting about SMT II's Haneda
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>>521158376
Ok here is the issue though. The gay man is actually called a homosexual. Haneda saying Aleph is cute is purely an implication. No one ever tells you he's gay. My point still stands. It's an extremely close race, but II wins out.
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>>521157595
Persona 5 because banging a goth doctor and your english teacher is hot
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>>521159032
Sadayo is your homeroom teacher you SECONDARY.
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I don't think anyone ever talked about the two scenes they picked for the earphones lines, did they? I think we all realize it's fujo pandering merch so it kind of interests me what lines they picked out for that purpose. One is after you beat pale rider and was talked about constantly by fujos so it's no surprise they used it. The second one though is from VV and really isn't mentioned a lot at all so someone on the Atlus staff must have wanted it in there probably. It's when Aogami tells you to go to bed because it's been a long day. In Japanese he specifies they are going to rest together in the dorm. So that scene really was meant to be gay shit.
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Qadištu corrupting Aogami by molesting him repeatedly
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>>521161607
That idea has been posted multiple times here and yet no one has drawn it or written a fanfic. Someone just do something with it already.
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>>521119246
>>521119905
VV is goyslop
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>>521161607
>4 snakes and 1 little bull boy
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How did we get kudlak and Victor as vampire demons before Dracula or Carmilla?
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>>521161558
wait what's all this about
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>>521119246
DeSu
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>>521167990
legally dracula is in a tough spot since some is free to use and some is copyrighted
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>>521161607
I'd rather the Qadistu ganging up on V-Kun
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>>521187794
https://personacentral.com/smt-vv-earphones/
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>>521202032
yeah but how do you what lines he says
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygR-TDqiCk
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>>521205314
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>>521205381
I THANK YOU GOD FOR TODAY
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>>521205381
I THANK YOU GOD FOR TODAY
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>>521205381
Thanks God for today!
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>>521205381
I THANK YOU GOD FOR TODAY.
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saving smtg with this post
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>>521211852
it's a law general now, it's too late
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SO YOU'RE A GOOD BOY
SHOW ME YOUR LAW FACE
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH THAT'S A LAW FACE
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>>521196403
this but they're all futa's blowing up his boi hole
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>>521211852
No wonder like 60% of the male NPCs in Abaddon lust after Raidou
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>>521216143
what was with all the fags in that game anyway
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Don't say the R word
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>>521216616
raidou?
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What the fuck is "marketing", Atlus?
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>>521220670
will they give me a real demon tube
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>>521213592
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>>521205381
I THANK YOU GOD FOR TODAY!
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thoughts on the hero+heroine setup of the old games?

>>521205314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPBuGPzJqQ
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>>521224213
>thoughts on the hero+heroine setup of the old games?
Several nips felt V brought it back with Aogami but I disagree because he can't be in my party. It wasn't just loyalty alone. Also in the old games they suffered from lack of character. Hiroko has potential but she mostly kept silent too.
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>>521225317
>but I disagree because he can't be in my party.
VV2 will fix this
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aogami more like gaynigga
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Qadištu shifting Aogami's race from proto-fiend to qadesh
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>>521226563
Wish granted. Aogami is now in Dx2 Gacha
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>>521226563
He's playable in the game files but they still never added him. It's not happening.
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>>521227445
In all seriousness. How come they haven't? It would be an easy way to make money.
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>>521227446
Well, so is Vkun
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>>521227610
For real, could you imagine the influx of new players? Those 60$ dollars guaranteed pulls in shop would print free money for Atlus
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Behold - the most obscure demon in the entire Megami Tensei franchise. "Sutoku" (or Emperor Sutoku).

Exclusively available in the mobile port of Megami Tensei 1. The mobile version of the game adds a new endgame optional dungeon "Holy Tower Sheol" which is a massive dungeon filled with all endgame enemies. At the top floor of the dungeon you fight the boss Belphegor. And after you defeat him you can find and free the captive Sutoku, who then joins your party.

Emperor Sutoku also appears as an antagonist in one of the later Megami Tensei novels by Nishitani, but the plots to the later novels seem kind of incomprehensible so I don't really understand the context and if his appearance in this game is intended to tie in to that.
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>>521227803
>Those 60$ dollars guaranteed pulls in shop would print free money for Atlus
lol
lmao even
Those packs are only for demons that were relased 4+ years ago.
Otherwise, a guaranteed pull in Dx2 is 450~€ and that's only if the most cost-efficient gem packs are available and those only appear during anniverssary events and collabs.
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>>521227614
I can let that one go though because he's called "chicken". It was clearly meant to be for one fake out fight where he does no damage and dies.
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>>521228675
looks like he's made out of clay
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>>521228887
Lmao fuck that. The most I spend is those cheap every month 650 gem packs and even then only occasionally

Anyway my point is even stronger. Aogami would print money
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>>521228675
Ugly
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>>521224213
>thoughts on the hero+heroine setup of the old games?
I really like them. Tbh Megaten feels wrong without them.
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>>521230434
I like the idea of mixing up the formula a little. If you keep the base concept of "loyal neutral companion" you can play around with that. IV and IVA went in bad directions with the concept. SJ removed it entirely. Nocturne added back in with pixie for maniax but I would barely call her a heroine. We just bullshitted about VV above.
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How does /smtg/ feel about Kaneko's fall from grace?
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>>521231620
It can happen to anyone, unfortunately it happened to someone actually talented
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>>521231620
his views on AI generated art and crypto was no surprise to me
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>>521231025
VV has the heroine character, Yoko and Tao are your heroine and even perma join your party.
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https://eirikrjs.tumblr.com/post/779677017211912192/thanks-to-whoever-made-this-you-know-if-things#notes
never thought I'd see this day
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>>521235676
That's like saying chaos reps and law reps are heroines. They are called heroines because they're girls but they don't fit the former role at all. There is a reason Aogami is the true neutral ending. I'm seeing old fags that grew up with the series say shit like pic related.
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>>521224213
I like it when it's done well. SMT2 did it the best. SMTV is a bad version of it.
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Atsuro is Devil Survivor's Heroine
Discuss
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i thought saying aogami was the heroine was a joke.
i thought people used it jokingly.
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>>521229179
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>>521216304
The game was just trying to be realistic
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>>521237013
I would say it depends but I also see a lot of people saying it in a serious manner. If you look at heroines and reps as a role outside of gender, then Aogami, Tao, and Yoko fit the roles of law hero, chaos hero, and the heroine pretty traditionally. It's not like they don't have a point in seeing this. You have neutral, chaos, and law all covered.
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https://youtu.be/bcu9GvB2X2I
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>>521236151
And he said he wants to take back his article bitching about Doi. The infamous one we bitched about here constantly. It really is the end of an era.
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https://youtu.be/eGfjDZue_gU
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>>521238667
I'm not too fond of everything having to be voice acted. Didn't like it in Nocturne either.
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>>521238731
I still think the critiques of that article are very valid, it's just that people who missed Kaneko can now compare a watered down and unoriginal form of his designs to Doi's best performance and think "maybe I was too harsh"
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>>521238667
The echo in the sauna made me laugh.
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>>521238859
turbo granny panty shots?
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>>521236607
>spin off
They break the rules too much to apply them to mainline. Same goes for SJ.
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>>521239667
I love Dandadan
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>>521239421
i always read too fast for this shit
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>>521230434
I like that Kaneko's Yumiko looks much tougher than her book/OVA counterpart
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>>521241404
No they ruined her and made her into a mascot cat.
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I quit SMTV the first time cause the story and characters were shit, so I'm guessing I should go for Canon of Vengeance even though I'm reading there are scenes that might lose impact if I didn't do Creation first, right?
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>>521239502
People never properly read that article, they just think it says "Doi bad" when it actually praises Doi as an artist. It also criticizes Kaneko's works. Remember that for every handful of great Kaneko demons there are also many who are forgettable, bad or direspectful to the source material.
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>>521245424
If you don't like the characters in CoC you won't like them in CoV either. They don't change, they are just a bit more sad.
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>>521245424
Yes, though it's not better but "less worse".
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>>521246654
>>521246769
Well, I'll give it an honest try. I haven't played many SMT games but I love 4
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>>521246317
Doesn't help that there's 1-2 schizo here who think the worst Kaneko design is still better than the best Doi design and they tend to samefag a lot to make people think that they're numerous.
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>>521246317
The title of the article says Doi bad at the top.
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>>521247574
Yoko and Tao are the only real changes but the change is making them your typical chaos and law rep and you choose their views depending on the situation. That is really it. Everyone else is the same.
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>>521246317
sure but he's pretty knowledgeable about Kaneko's body of work, most of his critisms weren't about a single design here and there but their whole careers as designers and their design philosophy. I
don't know. is this an over reaction? is it course correcting? the Fionn comparison in particular seals the deal because it exemplifies every positive and negative aspect of Doi's career as a demon designer and then Kaneko's which in the context of the game's whole aesthetic feels plain and uninspired.
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>>521247574
>>521248187
Don't listen to him, Vengeance fucks.
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>>521249206
Anon, he said he hated all the character after playing CoC. Playing CoV will not change his mind.
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Need good SMT music to have a mental breakdown to
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>>521253042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0MEIzRlM8s
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>>521253042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhck00rMoKs
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>>521253042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-E8Wyn8WUQ
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>>521253042
You should be listening to Oxbow's King of the Jews or Neurosis' Through Silver in Blood in their entirety instead of SMT music if you're suffering a mental breakdown.
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what's the earliest demon I can get in SMT5 with dekunda?
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>>521236169
No you're wrong, Yoko and Tao play the role of Heroine to a T, they even Megami Tensei. The only difference is you get to choose which one you want, but that's a VV thing, back in base V Tao was just the heroine. Hell Tao was the first heroine character you could actually use since If..., Yuko was cutscene only, Isebeau and Pascal were random guest party members only and SJ didn't have a heroine at all.
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>>521242231
>when the VV is gay meme isn’t a meme
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>>521265239
Check the fusion tool in the OP.
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>>521266381
>No you're wrong, Yoko and Tao play the role of Heroine to a T, they even Megami Tensei.
Then what separates them from alignment reps because they do the exact same thing. And where is your neutral heroine? Are you sure you aren't looking at just gender and nothing else? I remember in the only interview VV got Doi and Komori said the way Tao and Yoko function in VV will remind old players of the earliest games. Tao and Yoko behave nothing like the heroine and Yuriko do in SMT1 and certainly nothing like Beth and Hiroko but they work very much like the law hero and chaos hero, if not identically.
I forgot to toss this screenshot in to the collection I had been making but this old fag Dx2 gacha whale saw it while blog posting about smtv like most of them do and I was reminded of that interview and what they were probably referring to.
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>>521243190
That's not ruining, that's making even better
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>>521272026
I want the granny though.
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If AI ever becomes sentient and malicious, would it be a digital devil?
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>>521272894
Hi Kaneko.
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>>521253042
Why are you having a mental break down?
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>>521266481
VV only looks gay to gay people, I'm sorry I had to be the one to tell you anon...
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>>521220670
B-But i want muh devil buster.
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>>521270586
>Check out these twitter screenshots of retards in Japan, don't you feel silly now?

But you know what? I was reminded by Tao and Yoko of the old games.
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>>521274121
eirikrjs is gay?
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Jack Black Frost
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>>521274582
What the fuck are these?

>>521274942
For something like this the only way to get a feel of your instincts is to see if other people share the same opinion. That's why I collect these when I see them. Japanese players make a habit of blog posting their smt playthroughs and their thoughts at the same time. It's interesting to read about seeing as the game is meant to culturally relate to Japanese players than western ones.
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>>521253042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy-2BmuqkFE
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In retrospect, was original V really THAT bad?
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>>521276237
It's the best game in the series desu
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>>521276237
The level scaling is what pissed people off the most.
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>>521275898
Contrary to popular belief, collective knowledge does not work like that. If you gather a bunch of half-wits it doesn't make a full wit, it's still just a bunch of half-wits. Look at this website as a whole if you don't believe me.
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>>521253042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwv8MwYimM
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>>521236151
>took a literal stroke and Kaneko doing AI work for him to go "maybe Doi isn't that bad!"
not exactly high praise, to be honest
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>>521276874
It sounds more like you're criticizing yourself for posting here.
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>>521276237
The level scaling sucked, the characters had almost no time to really do anything onscreen, and it was obviously rushed, ESPECIALLY at the end.
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>>521276237
yes
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I want VI to be more character-driven and I want the stakes to start lower.
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>>521251427
I fucked all the characters as hard as Vengeance fucks so you're wrong
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Let's make our own SMT with blackjack and hookers
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>>521278012
I just want it to be set in the contemporary real world instead of some pocket dimension or the future or whatever, we haven't really had that in mainline since... SMT1?? Or If... I guess.
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>>521276237
I enjoyed it, Dazai and Abdiel were cute, and I didn't even notice the level scaling thing, my first time beating Lord Shiva was a blast, Vengeance for me on the other hand was a worse experience.
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>>521278145
All of them? That's over 200 demons...
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>>520764807
Fwiw there's mods on GB that let you keep different stuff between cycles.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/381862
https://gamebanana.com/mods/314094
https://gamebanana.com/mods/433294
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>>521278230
lets make a /vg/ fangame
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>>521278487
>I didn't even notice the level scaling thing
I don’t believe you unless you were playing on the easiest difficulty.
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Btw did Tom die?
He hasn't given any updates on the P1 PS1 translation in ages.
Does he have a new shitter account or something?
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>>521278012
VV is character driven. It's more about character drama than an actual plot. VV even more so. If VV and V isn't want you wanted, then you want more plot progression and character development.
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>>521278678
P3-3?
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>>521279217
Remember the flash game? That was funny.
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>>520787673
>do you think SMT1/2 remakes are a possibility within the next 10 years
It's hard to tell, but I don't really see it.
I don't even see ATLUS releasing a remaster or enhanced re-release anytime soon either. I have no idea what did Apple do to get them to re-release SMT 1 and 2 on their platform, but the fact that ATLUS did the bare minimum and instead of updating them to work with newer iOS versions they just let them rot and fade away speaks volumes, it's as if they didn't want to do much with those super old SMT games.
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>>521278726
Desu I played on normal and didn't really get all the talk about it either. If I'm more than 10 levels under a boss I expect to not do great against it, and more often I was < 5 levels under when getting to a boss which was doable. Were you skipping all the optional stuff? I can see that being more of an issue on replaying I guess.
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>>521280857
The problem is that the game forced you to level up until you were able to get past the level scaling’s retarded scaling. It wasn’t fun, past games had level scaling but it wasn’t as egregious.
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>>521280857
Levels mattered more then your actual stats by a huge margin and it sucked.
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Why is Atlus allergic to giving us Apocalypse mode-level difficulty option that isn’t locked behind NG+?
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>>521279217
Li Ji is back and she's fuckin' pissed.
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>The Demod guy is still around which means he might import whatever new demons and variations show up in the Raidou remaster
>He added the SMT1 characters as demons with unique animations too
It feels weird, but it looks kinda sick.
https://youtu.be/ydHqwylUOS0
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>>521281806
They’re afraid that retards are going to select CBT mode, get filtered, then leave a negative review
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>>521281806
Apocalypse mode was a fluke, we'll never get something like that again. Did hardtype ever get ported to Nocturne HD?
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>>521282107
Whatever new demons Raidou gets will likely end up officially in VV anyway with the Switch 2 shit.
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>>521282107
this makes me miss SMTa
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>>521282156
Have faith in Oyama’s next game
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>>521282404
*SMT, no "a". Whoops.
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Can Ishida break his curse?
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>>521282678
The curse of making great games that everybody hates? A modern Cassandra, how tragic...
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>>521282423
We don't know for sure he's not working on Raidou.
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Wait a minute... I remember being able to load my savefile while playing Devil Survivor back in the DS. Did they take away the option for Overclocked?
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>>521276237
Yes.
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Can we all at least agree that Ronde is
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>>520890698
>If I play SMT5V, first time playing, if I start creation will I get burned out by the time I wanna do vengeance? I like to check every nook and cranny in maps and read all NPC dialogue
I did 1 CoC run out of 4 there are(?) and 1 CoV run out of 2, and haven't booted up the game since the Marici update.
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>>520890698
Most things are exactly the same in both routes.
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>>521282107
Heroine's tummy... Erotic ToT
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>>520890698
The 1st, 2nd, and 4th areas of both routes are the same save for a few minor differences. Only the third area of each is completely unique to each other, and even those have a couple overlapping quests.
The Vengeance route is easily the better of the two, so if you only have time/the interest to do one, it should be that one. You miss out on experiencing what changed between them, but that's only really going to hit if you played the original V anyways with the passage of time.

So, Vengeance if you can only commit time for one. If you think you can get through both, granted there's nothing wrong with having a break between runs, then sure, do Creation first, then Vengeance.
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Rate my Cu.
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>Raidou has a fucking Rider Kick
Incredible
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>>521290912
Subarashii.
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>>521290912
I was just thinking about this today, what the fuck
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>>521290912
Smt x kamen rider grows closer by the day
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>>521285170
>>521216616
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https://x.com/AspenVesper
Guess who's back, back again?
Vesk is back, tell a friend
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>>521293898
Old news. But I don't know if her finding this is or not.
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>>521239421
>Voice Volume: 0%
There, ftfy.
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>>521293898
those SMT development screenshots are interesting. looks almost exactly like MT2.
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>>521276237
CoC sucks.
The level scaling sucks.
In retrospect, the Magatsuhi Rails added in VV were amazing and the fact that the original doesn't have them sucks.
The fact that the fiends are paid DLC sucks.
So yeah, it was in fact that bad.
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>>521276237
>>521294515
Oh yeah, Ginza sucks too. I don't want to imagine traversing that hellscape without the rails.
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>>521276237
Yes. VV saved SMT.
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>>521290912
the cutscene attacks kinda look like shit, to be honest
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>>521300076
Cow woman hot…
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202X marked the fall of /smtg/.
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>>521124641
elaborate?
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>>521312737
Doi bad
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>>521124641
For me it's that you can only reuse same demon designs in radically different contexts so many times
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I am
el Semioscuro
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>>521290912
Remember in kamen rider decade where the henshin belt would say KAMEN RAIDO? that was foreshadowing all along
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>>521316639
I.... am a FIEND
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>>521316639
what would be the chicken jockey equivalent?
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>>521290912
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>>521277226
all Doi has to do now is shitting on AI and he'll win instantly
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>>521322587
I don't care how low Kaneko has fallen, it still doesn't make Doi a good artist. That Raidou render looks like absolute ass, he can't even be bothered to study how clothes drape and fold.
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>>521283124
I'm 90% sure he isn't working on this remaster or at the very least his role isn't major. he could be working on a supposed 3rd game after the remasters, remember that Yamai never mentions desire to work on something if it isn't already at least in pre production, this behavior has been consistent with Nocturne remaster, V and now raidou.
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>>521293898
remember to back up everything she posts, you don't want to lose all that archive cause she's having a meltdown again
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>>521305598
I think you mean 20XX
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>>521293898
AspergerVesper
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>>521329239
he knows that very well, look at his line work in the IV art book. he has a background in fashion design after all, this is his colorists fucking it up. same goes for IV and IV:A and then look at VV where everything is done by him.
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We should bring back the heroine and hero dynamic in the next game with six overall team members. With current atlus development being more character focused I think it would be neat to have something from an older generation of games to be reinterpreted in the modern era. Probably.
>but VV though
I do no subscribe the car schizo being a heroine. she is a alignment rep
>aoigami
Not on your team
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>>521337906
lt's not his colorists lmao, just look at the lineart itself. He puts random lines on clothes and calls it a day because he has no idea what he's doing.
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>>521341302
can you give me examples? I don't see any random line placements here.
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>>521341735
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are the random "magatsuhi" aura demons just supposed to be gotcha moments? they don't give anything crazy and I have to kill them in one turn or I eat something like a freikugel EX to the face
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I want to play Abaddon... but it's getting remade soon... but I want to play it now...
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>>521343194
but those aren't random. it's where clothing folds to confirm to her body or because they're being held together by another piece.
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>>521343364
Play the originals so you can compare them to the remakes.

>>521343194
What? Those aren't really random at all.
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>>521339873
I agree that if Aogami was playable it would have been good. VV was nearly there.
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>>521343364
>but it's getting remade soon
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>>521343364
it won't be out for another year go play it
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>>521343194
>anti-doifag doesn't understand what clothing folds are
You could've just said Nuwa is fine and posted a Nahobino design to prove your point, but now you just look retarded.
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>>521343194
greatest post in this thread yet
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>>521344481
Thanks I try
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For real though it does look like shit, you guys just don't have an eye for art but it's OK. Try not to feel too bad about it.
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>>521344816
you might want to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d07NanfYT8U
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>>521345740
I think you are the one that should watch it since you seem to think Doi's clothing folds look good
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>>521345740
but anon I think you fail to understand that Doi bad
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>>521344276
Tamaki is so lucky...
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>>521348259
I'd forgotten about this meme. Wish we still had a booru.
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>>521343590
They would never do it but imagine repairing an Aogami unit and having your Aogami control it autonomously even while you're fused together.
I want to see the fucker actually fight at least once. I don't even care if he's viable.
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>>521349928
I bet Aogami would be fully customizable demon like what's his name from Soul Hackers 1
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>>521354091
now there's some good-looking clothing folds
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>>521358223
>anon finally realizes it's the artist that renders Kaneko's work that made it look good
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>>521358529
yeah because there's no superfluous lines that get in the way of their work
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>>520804947
a bit late, but damn thats a good cloak
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In my usual rounds looking for news and updates, I noticed the megaten reddit also unanimously agrees VV is probably getting a switch 2 update and new content for it. Also nips tweet about it occasionally and even tag their posts (which is how I find them). It's kind of funny to me how all that happened was switch 2 edition being a thing and everyone just agreed that means VV is getting the same treatment.
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>>521360721
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>>521360628
I love this kind of cloak
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>>520850230
god thats so hot
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I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
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>>521369190
His holes belong to evil unused Yuzuru that was found in the game files.
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>>521369256
but he's unused for a reason
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>>521369372
So you're saying a dominant Yuzuru that uses Koshimizu like his cum sleeve would be worse than him being cucked to death like this?
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>>521371781
um uh
suffering builds character
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>>521371907
You shouldn't have to turn Yuzuru into an even bigger joke just to make Koshimizu a better character.
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>>521372141
but you see in the law end of Vengeance route they can live happily ever after so technically a happy end exists within the game cause normal VV cucks Koshimizu of a proper resolve too
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>>521372417
You shouldn't presume just because Yuzuru comes back that Koshimizu does too. Especially with how much Aogami bitches about never being able to thank his brother for putting his body inside his soulmate life partner.
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>>521373173
his take had a little more juice than the susanoo one I assume with a little headcannon fagging we can still have Tsukuyomi in vengeance post law, in particular because it's not a final resolve and its a "we'll figure a solution out through struggling" so if you assume Tsukuyomi is a representation of struggling through dark times without using hope the humanity in VV will need a god like that, and that's essentially how gods get revived.
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why didn't yakumo simply spend the rest of his life banging his hot demon mom wife
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>>521375303
autism
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>>521373957
I kind of wish they elaborated on who is revived in all the endings besides showing just humans. I feel like that's important to understanding how much impact your decision had. Like in Yuzuru's ending in the original, if Koshimizu and Yuzuru are still dead, who is running the country? The same can apply to the new law end too.
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>>521375303
You could ask Vkun the same question. Why didn't he just take Aogami and leave? Why didn't Yakumo take Nuwa and leave? Khonsu and Miyazu were the only smart couple.
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>>521375303
Autism
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About to start Devil Survivor over clocked. Any strats?
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>>521383331
>Khonsu and Miyazu were the only smart couple.
Khonsu would have killed himself and Miyazu over the throne if Miyazu wasn't already dying though I'm sure.
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>>520761346
https://dengekionline.com/article/202503/35066
Kaneko made lots of new art for his game
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>>521220670
Holy shit I can join Raidou's harem!?
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>>521339873
I still don't know why we never went back to 6 party members.
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>>521401307
VV really could have used 6 but if they added it now I don't think the game would be very balanced.
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What do you think they will realistically add to the Switch 2 version of VV?
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>>521402901
Sahori and Lahmu tentacle rape scene
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>>521402901
Aogami and V-kun make out scene while Yoko and Tao watch
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>>521392705
>Khonsu would have killed himself and Miyazu over the throne if Miyazu wasn't already dying though I'm sure.
NTA, but it's clear you didn't play SMTVV. Or even SMTV.
Khonsu fell in love with Miyasu, that's why he gave up on the throne. Her sickly body has nothing to do with it.
How did you manage to miss this when it's a big part of his entire character and you have multiple NPC telling you about it in Odaiba and Taito?
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>>521402901
Maybe a few new navigators and some of the demons that have an ID in the code but weren't added to the game like Baldur, Krishna and Maitreya.
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>>521276237
Playing through 5V made me realize I really did just pay Atlus to beta test SMT V for them. Genuinely still pisses me off thinking about it, no other enhanced remaster they shat out made me feel this way.
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>>521417137
i always wait before buying any game they make
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>>521402901
New quests. New demons. New Tokyo encounters. New superbosses. New cutscenes. And a new gimmick feature that elevates the game altogether or miserably ruins it.
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>>521406315
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>>521402901
I was just thinking of some things they could add:
>expand the demon haunt and add mini games
>let demons talk to each other
>add the missing guest characters
>Amaterasu
>Marduk
>the cut demons named in the game files
>Susano-o lore quest with Aogami
>Matter goddess lore quest with Yoko/Tao
>new additions to the dorm room (display and interact with relics?)
>new bench conversations (please put Amanozako into one)
>Can go into Ginza on CoV and Shibuya on CoC
>new level cap + longer end game dungeon to utilize it
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SMTV is not a real SMT game because it has no real dungeons.
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>>521402901
Just let me summon Metahuman Dazai, and give him a unique severe fire damage skill with pierce.
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are there any demons you refuse to use no matter what
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Magatsu Rails are such a stepup in traversing levels that it makes me think about what else can be done for traversal short of actually just flying
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>>521427134
Konohana Sakuya in VV. Although I realized she was not that broken while I was breaking the game with Onyankonpon.
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Skibidi Belphegor
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>>521427771
>short of actually just flying
wasn't that something you could unlock in IV for the world map or did I hallucinate that
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I want to complain. The Raidou manga did a good job in the first chapter of making him look like himself because his mouth was drawn properly but after a while the mangaka stopped drawing his iconic Kaneko-style black upper lip and it makes the whole thing look like a doujin instead of an official manga. I find this mildly grating and wonder if a less "pretty" and more "mature" style closer to the original work would have been better for this manga. I dislike the art and yet I don't. That's all.
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How's the smt 1 translation? I heard it fucks up lawchud dialog.
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God I want to fuck amane
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>>521435960
that's ancient news. get the PS1 fan translation.
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>>521436069
>>521436287
Anybody who wouldn’t is a gigahomo.
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>>521436223
ESL YouTuber convinced me that the SNES version has more sovl.
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>>521436069
>>521436287
Where is Would 2
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>>521436662
it's kinda true and i dare say that the AG fan translation for how biased and broken it is has more sovl too but the game just plays better on the PS1
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>>521436725
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>>521436069
>>521436287
>>521437136
Based
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>>521437136
WHERE IS WOULD 2
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>>521437231
>tfw can’t post the other 4 images because tits and sex
>>521437292
Is there a would 2?
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>>521437913
HOLY BASED
Catbox ‘em
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>>521438174
Oh yeah that exists
https://files.catbox.moe/5bnfku.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6wyhxw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/1z7h0p.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jqvg7r.png
>just received notification for the completed Amane animation with va
Holy fuck
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>>521439306
how the fuck do you have this much money dude
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>>521439680
Every night I gamble my soul with Lucifuge and if I win I get my bank account filled.
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>>521427134
I refuse to use any demon as I don't want their filth weighing on my soul. Only angelic beings sanctioned by the Lord are my allies.
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>>521440391
jonathan...
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Here’s the amane animation
https://files.catbox.moe/0g4xuu.MOV
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>>521439306
These are good shit.
>>521444037
Not too fond of this, honestly. I think it’d be better if it was a simple loop without the VA moaning and sound effects. I hope you didn’t pay too much.
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>>521444037
>>521445279
yeah it's well drawn and animated but no creampie???
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>>521445279
Got two versions including one with no sound, so technically a loop
https://files.catbox.moe/qn2skr.MOV
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>>521405235
>Aogami and V-kun make out scene while Yoko and Tao watch
....and flick
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>>521446263
Where’s Sahori in all this
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I've never played Majin Tensei II, but Deja Vu sounds good. Is the game fun?
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>>521447260
Crawling into Lahmu's mouth again
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>>521228675
>masakado at home
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>>521027896
what filter/shader are you using? I like the brightness.
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>>521454034
i think i was using the cyberlab death to pixels one. i disabled the border because i didn't really care for it and it made the image tiny.
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Man, I just can't wait.
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>>521457645
>just can't wait
Are you buying a switch 2 for the early access? I might and after I beat it I'll sell it and buy the Steam version when it's on sale.
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LOL
>please forgot soul hackers 2 happened we're not even going to acknowledge this model is actually from that before VV
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>>521448927
It’s cool but very, very, very slow.
It’s one of the few games where I totally understand when somebody spams fastforward on emulator
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Glad they still using this thing, wasn't expecting it honestly. Thought they'd just replace it with cherubim since they already have the model and the designs are so similar
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>remake doesn't have the grittier demon textures from the original
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>>521464748
Yeah I noticed right away when they showed okiku mushi (I gooned a lot to that model in the ps2 version so shes ingrained in my mind)
Contrast got turned through the roof as well
What is it about PS2 games specifically and just straight up not being allowed to retain their original artstyle?
Like I'm seeing actual retards going "its made by the same people maybe this is just what they wanted raidou to be all along and it was hardware limitations"
No dude its legit every single remade/remastered PS2 game ever, there has to be easily over 100 cases of this, they PS2 games specifically are literally not allowed to retain original artstyle and lighting/colors
This is just another drop in the already well filled bucket of it happening and I don't get it
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>>521460960
No, I'll leave my 3dsxl as the only console i'll have in my entire life.
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>>521462571
i swear they acknowledged SH2's existence when it came to talking about demons added to SMTV:V too

>>521462995
maybe they can't use Vengeance-debuting models or maybe they just love Ophanim
will be very funny if they show up in the same game
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>>521457645
same bro, same
gonna preorder next week for the gay glasses
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>>521465210
Huh, if that's what it's going to look like in the game I'll be very disappointed
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>>521468315
are you even going to use those
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>>521468537
of course they cute as hell
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>>521468413
Wilder Brian...
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I love Raidou so much!! I am so pleased to see the uptick of wonderful fanart since the remaster announcement!
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>>521465210
I think its as simple as darker less saturated artstyles being the trend of the ps2 era, and super bright high contrast artstyles being the trend of the current era. As much as developers might try and pretend otherwise with all the fluff interviews about making things for the fans, they don't make these remakes for fans of the original game who enjoyed it back in the day. Those are gonna be the minority of the sales. Remakes are primarily made for modern audiences who never played the originals and don't care that the artstyles have been changed appeal to a completely different era of trends. Thats how you make more money.
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>>521469131
the arts have been great this far, im happy for all Raidou fans
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>>521469131
And he's getting official cat boy art soon, don't forget.
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>>521471228
>official cat boy art soon
offical? huh ain't no way
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>>521444037
It's ok, seems like a very short loop
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>>521339873
>Not on your team
I thought you meant that in sexuality way but you were being literal
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>>521448927
It's one of Atlus's best games, expect to use speedup on the emulator. The system they made for the AI takes a while to load every unit's movement, especially in the later levels.
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>>521474023
More people should bitch about Aogami being fully playable in the game files and being scrapped though.
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>>521474275
Yeah, that's a valid complaint
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>>521472769
Yes, it's a collab with a place called NAMJATOWN. It hasn't released yet, but it was announced.
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>>521477341
Thats awsesome
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>>521469521
any better? I don't know why remasters always fuck up the lighting and colors
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>>521481795
Better, though can't fix some other minor stuff like how the moon looks way more massive and imposing in the original, compared to being much smaller and a more typical 'moon in background' shot you see in a lot of things.
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>>521481795
Yes.
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NAKED TAO IS FUCKING REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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>>521485726
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>>521485802
yoko isn't gay she's just autistic
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>>521485964
But it's funny how she has to feel up Tao and Vkun.
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>>521486501
>>521486501
>>521486501
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>>521462571
For the love of god please add in the Soul Hackers Pixie. Atlus making a model for her was the only thing Soul Hackers 2 did right. Been waiting for some god to replace Pixie’s model with hers in VV and it still hasn’t happened.
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>>521485726
Link to the mod plz



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