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Imagine Dragon Deez Nuts Edition

>News
Emerald Dream is NOW LIVE https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24189539/into-the-emerald-dream-is-now-live
32.0.3 Patch Notes https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24191047/32-0-3-patch-notes
Year of the raptor announcement with plans for the year: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24177978/welcome-to-the-year-of-the-raptor
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news

>Decklists
https://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck lists
https://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)
https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta report
https://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch notes
https://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard, wild, & twist decks

>Deck trackers & statistics
https://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck tracker
https://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck tracker
https://heartharena.com/ – arena helper
https://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper

>Misc.
https://playhearthstone.com/ – official website
https://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wiki
https://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournaments
https://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker

>helpful links
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex' article on gaming mentality
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18pIaTLcGhaWf7kHKeItJckbCBT9fMjuzLxMKluCpxVs (/hsg/'s shitty word doc[feel free to edit])
https://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit

Previously: >>520565043
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Fuck death knight
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Death knight is the same thing in Wow. Every other class but better.
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I've played Hearthstone for two days. I think that's enough for the next three months.
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valeera sexo
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Is this real? What the fuck.
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Give me your chudiest wildy combo decks.
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>>520911123
its real at bronze-gold. At legend mage DH hunter and rogue go up, paladin and priest go down.
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>>520911734
every single fun wild combo has either been nerfed or was never good to begin with. If you really think billions must die consider playing mill druid.
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My treant druid deck is wild now. Is there a current standard token deck?
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>>520912003
imbue druid with the new epic that spawns treants
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>>520911915
You can still play Qmage and Warchud combo, but you need to be a level 15 antisemite.

Also, why must dilating sTRANSdard sissies have a say in wildychud balance? Look how utterly dogshit their own format is.
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Why do people not play bazaar? What's wrong with it?
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>>520915594
for me , it's boring, like balatro, you play it one month and then you are tired. Also I personally don't feel the online aspect at all so I don't care
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>80 gold and a regular rare for going 6 wins in arena
it this a fucking joke.
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Tried playing Baazar bros and I fell asleep.
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>>520913331
can you keep it to two or fewer autismo buzzwords per sentence please.
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Overwatch expansion when
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>can you keep it to two or fewer autismo buzzwords per sentence please.
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>>520917942
Average hearthstone developer.
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I’m watching Kolento
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Like 60% of this Protoss Mage deck is filler cards. Genuinely hoping I don't draw half my cards.
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Zarimi is 1000000000x more cancer than Armor DH ever was get this fucking card out of the game
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hows the cement doing
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>>520919641
can i timetravel with you ?
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Go on hsreplay
Look at top deck
Post that it’s cancer
Repeat every day
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Launch Hearthstone
Play some games
Lose
Go to the 4chan dot org vg Hearthstone general and post a screenshot of your game screaming about how it's unfair rigged shit
Close game
Repeat next day
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she cute
now to main rogue forever
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How the blizzard artstyle survived 20 years is beyond me.
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>14 min ago
Zeddy Lurking /hsg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTgsvGZR_rI
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played against an imbue paladin today and wanted to cry. He hit every imbue card insanely early I think his portals were up to 10cost or something but it just didn't matter lol
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>>520922731
sus impostor......
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I been playing Tree Paladin and it is highroll central
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>>520924383
how ? you have like 3 tutors ...
robocaller
grillmaster
and weapon
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>>520923996
>No eceleb saw it coming
Fixed
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just got scammed
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>>520924383
it's a bit janky but it's somewhat consistent once you get the hang of it just takes a while to get it
yesterday I crafted it and went 5-7, today I'm 5-2
mulligan only for tutors and the cards that give you coins, you want to coin ursol out at 6 every game basically
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>>520924787
https://www.hsguru.com/decks?format=2
5th strongest deck atm.

>>520925901
Yeah. I like it. I initially played it to do the achievement
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I thought scarab was weighted for class cards? I'm literally only getting neutrals.
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>protos rogue can play the stealth guy on 5 and most decks have 0 cards to kill it
incredible game design
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>>520925731
by indian support or nigerian prince ?
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>>520922731
>Go to the 4chan dot org vg Hearthstone general and post about how it's unfair rigged shit
>Repeat next day
based. same. i don't really play though
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>>520926276
fucking rigged (dilation station as aura)
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>>520926202
Play the dragon aoe.
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when does the shop rotate these skins are garbage
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>"if you're losing to paper a lot, stop queueing as rock! you need to adapt and play scissors"
>queues as scissors
>game matches you up with rock
>game matches you up with rock
>game matches you up with rock
>queue up as paper again
>game matches you up with scissors again
muh skill issue
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>>520926768
April 28 next patch/miniset/bg update
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>>520926861
forgot
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160005270A1/en
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>>520927053
Yes the game is rigged.
But as long as you play without spending money making blizzard lose money then it's all right.
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>>520926861
yes matchmaking is rigged in favor of paypigs but compared to rock paper scissors very few matchups are ultra polarized
save a couple outliers tier 1-2 decks at high legend have their worst matchup at 40-60 or 35-65 tops so yeah if you lose to "rock" everytime you play "scissor" it's a skill issue
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Why did they make the manacheat dragon package neutral.
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>>520926590
???????????
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Thalnos has been unplayable for 20 years. It's time to let go.
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>>520927495
yes you are right but the RPS analog is a rhetorical tool in this case, obviously the game is not literally 100% deterministic like actual RPS
instead, the game uses a variety of manipulations. people think outcomes can't be controlled by a computer after the matchmaking is done, but that is not true. especially since at this point, a significant % of your opponents are bots
without going too deep into the rabbit hole: it's not really about rock paper scissors. it's about how the computer program controls your results and makes an effort to manipulate you (both positively and negatively - it's also not truly a complaint about the game being rigged against ME or anyone specifically)
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Why is thjis shilling 60 dollar diamond cards on stream is he being ironic
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>>520928375
He won't get into masters tour if he doesn't
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>>520928375
because he's in his 30s and his chosen career was professional hearthstone player
it's not "ironic", he's just doesn't have any other way to make money
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>>520929756
yes he does, silly anon
he's an ambassador for parallel tcg
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>decks that should not exist
>zarimi
>handbuff hunter
>protos rogue
anything else?
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>>520930407
yeah, anything that you like playing.
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>>520930407
nebula shaman
I don't care that the deck isn't that good it's just as annoying as any other scam deck
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>playing homebrew handbuff midrange hunter
>get agamaggan
>play malorne
>get another one
>20 damage from hand for free
i did not deserve that win
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>>520931409
well, the rigged algo made by the space jew overlords that control the 5g stations and fluoride water supplies which the reptilians use to mind control the slave population so that they can slowly eradicate the white man's gene out of existence in pursuit of a truly evil world ruled by space god jew reptilians ruling over minority slaves that are addicted to AI sloppa and drugs and substances mixed into their food and water so they stay subservient and continue a cycle that only satan could come up with until the heat death of the universe (which, as a white christian male, I do not believe in)
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>>520928375
paraphrasing a bit but he said
>look guys it's only $60 dollars. you can just not eat for a week and get it. think about it, food is temporery, diamond tyrande is forever
not recognizing sarcasm, irony, or satire, is an indicator of room temperature iq
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>>520931262
Wallow sucks big cock and balls
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>>520930407
Anything control.
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i dislike the dark gift mechanic
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>best deck isn't a scam deck
that's fucking insane i love DK now
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They should update the tooltip on dark gift cards so it says they'll revive with full buffs and hp.
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dare i say it
this meta is pretty healthy and well balanced
lots of cheap, expensive, aggro, mid-range, and control decks to choose from
i do with all the OTK niggers the most painful death, but DK chads are keeping them in check so there's that
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Honest DK deck with an honest above average card for every mana slot.
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>>520919865
Guaranteed loss at turn 8 every game isn't fun for you anon?
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If dk is outhealing OTK there's no fucking way aggro are beating them.
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>>520932979
it's not about outhealing, it's outreaching
DK succ and +2x5 HP cards increase their max HP
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>really want the signature hunter imbue cards
>dont want to spend 100 dollars
niggers
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>>520933060
Yeah are you telling me that isn't insane against aggro or what.
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>>520931829
you see the irony in this don't you? your argument is predicated on excessive and repeated hyperbole, and the side you're "making fun of" is simply reporting their experiences. you HAVE to throw a ton of extreme exaggerations in because you literally don't have an argument. it's not ironic it's just cope wrapped up in an obviously fake veneer of superiority
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>>520933065
you arent picking the seperate imbue hunter only bundle? that 1 doesnt cost $100
>>520931262
wallows fun but im having more fun with andrew fallador lock instead
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>>520931262
>play understatted minions on curve to get trash minions with marginal buffs
>decks just smash you
>otk just ends you
>wallow can end up being useless
>10/10 with charge
>hand full of useless minions
Its not a very fun deck to pilot
What do you use except for the dark gift package
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what are the odds king plush gets nerfed?
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>>520933707
>what do you use except for the dark gift package
control cards that help you survive till you create the perfect wallow. I agree that it's missing tools tho, hopefully the miniset will give us some more dark gift cards.
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>>520933858
It's pretty slow and it folds to any overheal. Who does it beat like Warlock.
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hunters are so fucking annoying if they high roll im about to start putting black knight in my decks
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>>520933180
it's not that deep my guy
I was just making fun of rigged anons
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>>520934453
>I was just making fun of rigged anons
i'm aware
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>>520934182
you can just play a mid range / tempo style hunter with king plush as a finisher. its basically just a free 15 damage even if you buff it one time
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>>520934340
tortolla's a warrior card though..
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>>520934684
welcome to your first day playing hearthstone
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>>520934340
I'm sick of them making cards that are trash but good when discovered.
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>>520934820
>I'm sick of them making cards that are trash but good when discovered.
>>520928261
>instead, the game uses a variety of manipulations. people think outcomes can't be controlled by a computer after the matchmaking is done, but that is not true
these ideas align btw
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NEW LEAK for either the mini set or next set
new keyword "Service" and new corpse like currency that's gained from many new cards and some new unleaked mechanics
all Service cards have mixed mana + new currency cost to play, and there's gimmicks like some we've seen with spending corpses
also when making new decks that use Service cards, there's some stuff you preselect related to the unleaked mechanic
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should i craft hamuul and play an honest bigger and bigger man deck?
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>>520934340
Discover 1 cost Drenai into Malourne is too based
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>>520936439
It's going to get boring real quick when you die to everything that's not fatigue priest.
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>put down Naralex and Ysera
>opponent concedes
>I didn’t have narimi, and he had lethal
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>>520937053
you are misusing that reaction image
reported to the reaction image police
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>>520936439
its my favourite new deck. lots of fun, skill intensive. you cant win vs scam at all though keep that in mind. handbuff, rogue, you just die
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>king plush has nearly the same effect of ceaseless but has charge and can be buffed
why is this okay
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>>520936439
i've been enjoying it pretty well, alot of leeway in what you wana fit in but the two card's i'd 100% recommend putting in are malorne & dreambound disciple, since you 100% always trigger malornes 4x imbue requirement when you get to 8 mana and vs decks with early pressure your kinda stuck waiting on being able to summon 3/3-4/4 minions while trying to deal with enemys board and 3 mana chick lets you not worry about that
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>>520933858
>wheeee mumy you have to nerf that tier 5 deck because it hurt my feelings!!!
controlcucks are fucking unbelievable
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i will not rest until all forms of handbuffing are underneath the earth's crust
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Why are all the decks so top heavy? Don't they insta lose to Aggro?
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>>520937941
>it is 2025
>the newest round of blue haired devs have forgotten the mistakes of the past
>again
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>>520938945
Because they’re centered around cheating out high value cards on low turns while removing any threat from play. You aren’t going to see a mothership or colossus on turn 10 it’ll be 5 or 6
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>people figured out that imbue druid is broken
alright, honeymoon is over bros
only deck that beats imbue druid is rogue
enjoy
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Fellating yourself with do-nothing cards so you can play a 2mana 4/4 on turn 4 is not broken. LMFAO.
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>>520939317
I enjoy imbue Druid but it’s far from broken. Just smack them in the face the fuck are they gonna do?
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>>520937941
>>520939087
look at >>520938573
you stupid retarded subhumans I bet you both play something way more broken
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another victory for Golden Kobold
another fat L for Kil'Jaeden
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>>520939760
Imbue hunter otk nigger spotted
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I remember when Knights of the Frozen Throne came out. I think that is my favourite expansion. I loved the Zombiecraft hero power of rexxar or the 10 mana cost Gulldan.
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aggro-lite come back all is forgiven...
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>>520942324
no I'm just disgusted by you subhuman controltoddlers wanting a tier 5 deck nerfed cause it made you soil your diapers
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>>520943327
lend me some dust.
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>>520939760
settle down with the name calling alright
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>Have to do 15 wins in a row without losing
Literally impossible
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>>520943327
why even argue with controltoddlers
by their logic nebula shaman scam is fine because it doesn't kill you in one turn but the telegraphed as fuck, multi-turn setup OTK is bad
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this is the single most infuriating card of the set. your opponent dropping this on turn 4 just fucking stops you in your tracks
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nothing drives me up the wall more than losing to mages. most niggerlicious class since 2013
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the word is controddlers btw
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why did they make tyrande a weeb
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>>520944695
run black knight then you aggro retard. or is it impossible for you to run any card not in your netdeck.
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>>520946037
Where is her burkah
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actually kinda fucking cool
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>>520944695
honestly yeah, felt like that also
there's just no 3 drops or removal spells that can deal with it effeciently on turn 4
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there is 0 reason tortolla should have elusive. shit is retarded and effectively doubles your opponents ehp if you didnt luck out and draw black knight or hit it with random removal
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>>520950526
nothing has improved in the game since they introduced elusive as a keyword instead of a niche effect
we would lose quite literally nothing if it was eradicated from the game
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why is the 12/7 drake in cliff dive dh?
i thought i was crazy but d0nkey stats confirms it's the lowest wr/impact card in the deck
i guess the idea is it can randomly give you reach in some situations where have it in your hand and it might otherwise be a dead card? idk
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which one is the best/most value to pick?
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I am 2 points off from completing the event, so I have been playing freeze mage and roping to get the last 2 points. I have wasted 30 minutes of this metadeckfag's time
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>>520952715
Warrior or Hunter, personally I'd pick Warrior (contains both Ziliax and Ceaseless) just for the value
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>>520952715
warrior > hunter > the rest
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>>520953009
sweet, ill go for warrior because trial is pretty fun so far too.
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>>520952715
colossus protoss so you can disenchant artanis for full value
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>big into the dream signature card bundle
>like 90 dollars
>doesnt include the two main neutral imbue cards
>only the druid bundle does
>thats another 30 dollars
blizzard is a bunch of fucking jews what a joke
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>>520953602
yeah i dont get it. i'd actually buy some shit if it wasnt 50+ dollars for ONE skin
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>>520954295
the game is slowly healing and cementing after the tumor took out our dear cora
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new class when
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>>520954802
hopefully never. they cant even balance the ones they have
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>>520952445
backup when you draw the other stuff. man I am sick of these kind of decks
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so is hunters imbue worth literally anything outside of plush otk memes? i dont think ive seen anyone run it
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>>520956145
Hunter's Imbue with King Plush is so good that anything else is a meme
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>>520944602
Just have good rng?
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>>520954295
Cora has been dethroned???
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>>520961247
What does wild warlock play
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>>520961924
demon seed
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>daily quest
>play or kill 75 deathrattle minions
>s e v e n t y f i v e
how the fuck is that a daily
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>>520962089
shouldn't have rolled the nightmare quest bro
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>>520959280
>46% wr deck is SO good
I spoonfed you twice already you dumb fuck why do you keep lying?
the funniest part is that I just know you faggots crying about king plush are playing actually OP tier 1 dk decks, surreal
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>>520929756
>because he's in his 30s and his chosen career was professional hearthstone player
>it's not "ironic", he's just doesn't have any other way to make money
I mean the real reason is that the idiot bought stupid shit with his money instead of growing it.
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corpse explosion is legitimately not an okay card
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>>520963418
should be max 8 corpses
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>>520962505
If they get it off, there is no way to actually counter it, especially if it has windfury. The only one that rapes the deck is DH
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>>520963707
>5 mana clear the board
its literally just a better twisting nether. its fucked up because corpses will be made naturally just by playing the game
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>>520963718
it takes literally 5 seconds to prove you wrong I don't understand why you keep making shit up it's really weird
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why does every suck dk have 5 husks? where do they even fucking come from? theres no counter play because every time i clear the board they just have more
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>>520963418
To add insult to injury, corpses generated during the animation also trigger it
Had a game today where the opponent had 7 corpses. He played three minions and a corpse explosion, which confused me, but I wasnt worried since I had a 10hp minion which would survive. It fully cleared the board including my minion, because his new minions gave three more corpses to explode
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>>520961924
I usually play Renolock or DiscardZoo but I see both quest variants(damage and draw). I would say Renolock is the most common based off my experience.
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i can't stop playing my retarded homebrew decks and that's okay
unless i queue into a mage, then i just rope them every turn and emote
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>>520963418
>>520963707
>>520964357
>wow im actually losing? let me hard reset the entire match for 5 mana
>oops heres some leeches :)
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>>520965206
Mages are literally free elo
Most even have the common courtesy to concede around turn 6

Unless you are in wild, dunno what it’s like there
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>>520965446
they are not that strong but i'm very mentally ill
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>>520965623
>>520965206
>game enjoyer
>not a meta cuck
>sissy roper
>mentally ill
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>>520962089
get ready to learn Nzoth buddy
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>>520964298
its a undead/beast so
>1 mana U/B card that discovers a undead
>2 mana B 2/3 that discovers a blood rune card
>3 mana 4/2 raptor that discovers a beast with a dark gift buff
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>>520970190
its an actual problem. theres no counterplay to it when they just constantly shit them out
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>>520970562
the counterplay is having a board and suddenly dropping a 6 mana do nothing isn't enticing at all
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>>520944695
presented without comment
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>>520970857
>2 mana more
>only 1 hp more
>doesnt imbue
ive played since naxx and used that card in my paladin decks but this card is woefully worse than flutterwing
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>>520970818
>the counterplay is having a board
i present to you what may be the single strongest spell in hearthstone right now
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>>520970857
s tier arena card
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>>520970818
>6 mana do nothing
its actually a 6 mana deal 6 damage minimum assuming there arent already leeches on the board at which point that skyrockets.
that continues every turn until components are killed retard. this "do nothing" meme is fucking stupid and underplays how broken some of this shit really is
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>>520976607
>6 damage
Sorry, who's retarded?
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>>520976950
pre nerf my bad :)
still 4 damage faggot
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>>520977517
6 mana 4 damage is fucking insane bro
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>>520977704
clearly is considering its one of the top decks lil nigga
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FUCK DK
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>>520977761
do i keep going or what? frost and starships don't even run him lol
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>>520978392
oh and rainbow doesn't either
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>>520978392
and yet the most popular dk deck does, one with a rather positive winrate at that
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>play imbue deck
>dont draw imbue cards
now what
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>>520978638
nta but how long until you faggots realize that site only shows bronze-gold stats without the premium version
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>>520979195
Play Druid and now every card is an imbue card
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>>520979452
druid is kinda boring though
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>all the fun to play or play against decks are shit
>all the strong decks are cancer to play against and mindnumbingly boring to play as
dogshit meta, yet again
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Menageries being good for a bunch of classes might be the silver lining in this absolute shitstorm of an expansion
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>>520944695
If only there were cards you could run that interact with your opponents creatures
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Anyone want to help me finish the only playable control priest deck this expansion? I've never used concierge for the tempo and need something to replace it with. Ideally not another minion because removing it will fix bricked discovers. No I do not consider zarimi priest a control deck.
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>>520981375
I think for all the aggro going around you'll want some actual board too. I've seen people use scale replicas and illusory greenwings, the illusions turn into card draw with replicas because the dragons are cast on draw, which is neat. Don't ask me what to cut, though. I gave up on control priest.
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>>520980469
I'm having fun with tree paladin but I can see it getting boring in a couple days
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>>520982194
I did that already, it doesn't work. Notice my 7 board control spells that come out before turn 4 and dirty rats which cuck aggro. Champions of Azeroth is a heavily underrated card is what i have learned
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Fuck Zarimi priest
Fuck tree paladin
Fuck succ dk
Fuck imbue Druid
Fuck Rogue
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>>520962031
not demon sneed but a self damaging deck and then cheating out the usual suspects. it dies to a gentle breeze once it spends the first few turns taking itself down to 10 HP
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>>520985129
>zarimi
yeah, its a shame they butchered the card and made it purely otk.
>tree paladin
braindead "combo" deck that plays itself and tutors all the win conditions
>leech dk
braindead attrition control
>imbue anything
fuck push the button decks, they rotated genn/baku early because they created push the button decks
>rogue
eh its not the worst thing in the meta
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>>520986286
Protoss rogue has a pretty consistent win by turn 9 in legend
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imbuebros..
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i know I'm very late on this, but who was the genius that made the upgraded DK power a 2/1 instead of two 1/1s?
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>>520996981
Cora
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HOW IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE?!
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nothing more satisfying than outlasting these slow bastards
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>cliff dive DH
>draw all my minions
>lose
very cool
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>>520999710
don't do that retard
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We are so fkn back...
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>>520999980
it's so fucking joever...
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what can i do to improve this imbue deck? its a homebrew list and im looking to actually have fun instead of just hedge all of my bets on plush though he is a nice finisher if i draw it. ive gotten to gold pretty handily with it so far but it could probably use a little more juice
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>>521001946
you could fit in stuff like cash cow+broll or mystery eggs, then remove all the cheap beasts except for imbue and add in sasquawk+starship pieces+exodar
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can't imagine how bullshit imbue is going to be when they force it as hard as possible with the miniset
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>>521005234
i'd find it funny if they let rogue get to imbue too since they can abuse shadowstepping malorne for 1 mana wild gods
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>>521005839
if a rogue holds on to their shadowsteps to the point theyre playing a malorne theyve likely lost the game already
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>>521001946
>explosive trap
nigga is it 2014
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>ALL THREE OF THEM HIT FACE
WHY DO I PLAY THIS GAME
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>>521007731
>paladin managed to get the funny combo off
you were gonna lose regardless
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>>521007731
Deserved for playing imbue mage
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>>521007851
if i drew ceaseless while i stalled he was just dead

>>521007892
what the fuck do you have against this 48% winrate deck? you prefer protoss?
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>>521000510
>Diamond 3
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>>521008145
Wild meta is so fucking ass I haven't been playing at all, I just stop playing when I lose.
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>>521007892
>what the fuck do you have against this 48% winrate deck? you prefer protoss?
All imbue players must hang
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>>521008403
>the most honest decks with actual board interaction must hang
so are you a priest nigger or a dk nigger
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>>521008329
why don't you like the meta? Sure some of the t1 decks are a little annoying but there's plenty of diversity with t2/3 stuff. Feels good right now as long as you have a good matchup or two with the popular decks.
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>>521008965
>Me press button with the pushed mechanic
face the wall
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>want to make a secret deck because its been a while
>literally no secret support
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>>521009140
>build your deck around a mechanic
>take substandard do nothing cards to enable a specific playstyle
>all of those playstyles require the actual thing hearthstone was made famous for, board interaction and presence
>you dont like them
ill ask again are you a priest nigger or a dk nigger
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>>521009384
>>521009140 sorry anon that was meant for >>521009137
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>>521009384
>substandard do nothing cards to enable a specific playstyle
Imbuetrannies actually believe this
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>>521010064
>oh no two cards in the entire imbue package isnt actually garbage
you still havent answered my question anon
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>>521008971
During climb you'll mostly face a shitton of shadow priests which lead to incredibly unfun non-games, either they kill you on T3 because "hand says so" or you utterly dumpster them into submission because you got the win the draw diceroll.
Also most of the decks I really enjoyed playing have gotten heavily power crept (Warsong comboS, Even DH, Tax paladin), nerfed because reddit cried about it (quest mageS) or nerfed because they where sorta bullshit (mine rogue) Or I already got to legend with once and they sorta lost their shine for climbing (hooktusk rogue). Or they are decks that basically demands you do animation cheating (cough, rogue bounce combos).

As said, it is primarily an actual self skill issue more than anything else, this isn't anywhere near the Top 3 Actual Worst Wild Metas.
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>>521010562
I love playing shadow priests as long as I'm not playing combo since it feels like walking a tightrope to win but I can see why you think it's unfun
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>>521011985
As said, Even DK vs Shadow Priest was very, VERY fun from either PoV, but EvenDK has gotten severely powercrept and it isn't really a real deck, unless you queue just vs shadow priest, but if you go up vs Big Shaman, Combo Anything, Etc... your entire deck shits the bed.
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>>520944695
I thought about including imbue in my Protoss Mage for this reason. It's a really good turn 4 play.
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>>520950526
Elusive just means buy the latest expansion if you want to interact with your opponents minions.
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>Dragon combo cheese is a neutral package.
How long until it's in every deck?
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>>521008965
I wouldn't hate it if Protoss decks had more minions that would be cool actually. It's kind of annoying they went a different route with the faction splits instead of the Mean Streets of Gadgetzan route.
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>>521010064
Think people should just play this without imbue actually.
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If a leech survives a turn should you just concede.
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>>521017597
>zarimi
>food shit
>neutral
anon....
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>>521020426
2 damage Draw Draw Husk Husk you dead i hate when they curve only leeches
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>zarimi priest has drawn 14 cards
>has the full exodia combo on turn 8
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>>521020881
Drop Steward on 3 and watch their suffering
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>>521022390
the 1/1 that gets summoned by moroes?
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"Leech King" skin for DK when?
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>>521022492
https://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/2751421-clumsy-steward
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>>521026097
you say this like they don't already have like 18 stats on the board to trade into it
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why did people tell me this crewmate shit is good? i got more use out of his crew than he did
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>>521026189
they have 1/2 and 3/2 yes they trade but they guaranteed burn one card and FORCED to trade
also you can combo it with 2 mana murlock or rogue draw2 spell
you can drop it and trade into 5/5 dragon thats draws 2
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>>521026368
it's pretty strong (not top tier) in arena
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>>521026368
i played vs Velen crewmate... he just burn 10+ crewmates in one turn and summon 2-3 from hand Weird deck ....
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How are people ratting me at silver 10. Fix your matchmaking blizzard.
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>>521027534
Good thing you can't see your opponent's rank anymore.
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>>521027673
>Good thing you can't see your opponent's rank anymore.
LegendGODS can't relate
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>>521026368
people talk about it when they get a good streak and don't talk about it when they get a bad streak I swear that deck is ass
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What's the counterplay to leeches?
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>>521030283
option 1, run a bunch of big fat shits who don't care about a little suck. this is why imbue druid shits on them
option 2, run a bunch of little tiny shits who are easily replaced and only give them 1 health. this is why imbue mage shits on them
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>>521030283
Wait for blizzard to nerf them

Oh wait that already happened
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I'm peaking at Silver 5. Running into too many turn 7 Priest OTK's and all leech cards top 10 DK's.
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>>521030283
any deathrattle minions... they actually help you
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leeches aren't even that good anymore
all the DK decks stopped running discoverslop to find more husks since leeches fall off after the early game now
some of the starship dks dont even run husk anymore

basically stop being a bitch and just play a good deck that actually contests board
if you are really lacking aoe options in your deck, you can always just run mixologist and then either take +2 health or deal 2 aoe damage, both effects cuck DK leeches pretty hard.
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how does matchmaking work now? i came back after like 5+ years and i thought that i would be playing mostly against other trial decks in shitter ranks and instead everyone is running some weird shit like mage with wisps and missiles hero power, dragon combo priest, leech spam dk or some jade golem kinda druid.
at least this free spaceship warrior deck seems pretty okay and took me to gold 3 already. whats the best spaceship deck? i kinda want to improve on this prebuilt because this shit is fun
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I gave in to the Reborn Frost DK propaganda and just hit legend with it, the deck seems very good and has a learning curve, not your average brain dead aggro, especially during the doggo turn.

diaper DK though is very tough to beat due to insane amount of removal.
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>>521036746

>0 warriors in 60 matches

warrior bros what happened to us
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>>521036746
What is the role of shaladrassil? Late game finisher or removal?
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>>521037016

both, it can bounce big taunts (starships) also give you 10 dmg from hand but usually games end by turn 5-6 if you do the doggo turn correctly as no class can clear them except diaper dk and maybe mage
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>>521035692
they never reveal it because its rigged and favours paypigs/streamers
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>still lost because little shitling gave him 3 fireballs for 1 mana each
how this discover shit dodged bullet twice ?
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>win game vs aggrodin
>next game same deck highroll me
power of 50%
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if they got rid of the otk garbage and buff some more new cards I actually think the meta could have potential. dk is a bit overtuned but the other "fair" decks feel pretty close. stuff like cliff dive, handbuff and zarimi is just gay and boring to face
harbinger should probably also have one health so you cant just put it down on turn 1 without shadowstep into the 2 mana step
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Holy fuck it's so much fucking easier to play proactively. You just play your cards everyturn and then win holy fuck why would anyone torture themselves just playing control.
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>Your wish is my suggestion
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>>521042103
Played against a DK who ratted both My Colossus. It was great because griftah gave me take control of enemy minion and then I hit him in the face with Rat for lethal.
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So I was cooking with mage decks and turns out that Draenei mage is secretly broken
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>Slams bob
>Deploy Antiaggro zero mana drone
>Wish for more board clears
NICE 50% wr deck dude....
but im not Zarimi nigger
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What would you think if they introduced the possibility for the old 9 classes to get a new (1 cost) hero power? You can swap it before laddering
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>>521042946
Damn is that a board of 4/3's on turn 8 you might be onto something.
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>>521041813
>and buff some more new cards
please god the power discrepancies between the new cards even amongst themselves is an anomaly
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Am I switching to Imbue Mage once I start facing more DK's then?
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>>521043452

Draenie Mage is the key
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>>521044385

DK can't come back from this
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>turn 9
>draw whole deck
zarimnigs on another level....
TUTOR is fine print more tutor card CORA i beg you
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>>521044609
That's pretty close to garrote level. Very impressive.
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>>521044609
print more manacheat dragon cost 1 cards too
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im stuck on d3 with Burgle rogue... if i start winning Zarimi go nuts or imbue decks just temporape me....
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So when are they nerfing diaper DK? and while we are at it nerf diaper warrior as well even though no one plays this dogshit class
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How unplayable is the spell pool do you reckon?
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>>521046812
>trying to play diaper DK
>non-stop hardcounter matchups
DK is bad unless you are consistently facing aggro and goue
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>>521047081
it's bad, main use was to discount sea giant but those guys are arcane dust now
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What's the next evolution in game mechanics? We have cast when drawn for both spells and minions, I was thinking why not go full retard and make minions auto play I'd they sit in your hand too long. It's mana cheating with a delay
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>>521047081
5 slot looks decent defensively. A lot of summon two taunts and gain armour. 9 slot is guaranteed two big elusive taunts.
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>multiple top decks are running wisp + other filler dogshit cards because all they care about is 1-2 game winning design mistakes
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every game i pray RAT gods....
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>>521047183

>goue

what did he mean by this
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>>521047081
thought i'd be slick and leave on board to play it at zero mana for
>horn of winter
>prep
>shadowstep
>innervate
for a little mana cheat. it did not pan out and just ended up backstabbing my board or getting the protoss thing more often than not
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I will summon an even larger man
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Why does dragon priest have insane early game cards if they're a combo deck that kills me on 7?
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>>521049221
MeN ERA IS OVER MEET even larger SKYNET
and stop spectating my games
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>>521041998
because in control you get to put fun cards in your deck
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>played 40 min game vs dk
>he wins because starships shuffle 20 bombs in my deck
>next game is zarimi
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>>521050827

fun = 90% of your deck is removal
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>>521041998
I find Control to be simpler to play compared to aggro, granted, they're both braindead 95% of the time, the last aggro deck that required skill I remember was Outcast DH, and I can't think of a single control deck that required an ounce of brain power in the last 5 or so years.
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Why aggro shitters so dumb ? throw all minion to face and boardlocked self... NICE gameplay very interactive now face BOB TAX
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>>521050983
At this point you only have yourself to blame for still playing.
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>>521048367
The only class that isn't filler cards is DK because all their cards are broken.
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>>521050983

If I don't kill DK by turn 7 I just concede to save my own time
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>>521048367

That's still better game design than yugioh where all your deck is card draw effects to summon 1 big monster
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>>521053965
>this thing is shit
>"well this other thing in a different game is more shit"
okay
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>play asteroid shaman
>face several imbue mage in a row
I hate it
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"play 15 wild gods"
no. fuck you
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>>521047081
Would this location trigger spellburst?
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i removed one fucking rat from deck and got 3 zarimiggers in row..... holy shit that matchmaking beyond broken
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>>521055928
>matchmaking beyond broken
it's working as intended but yeah it's rigged and retarded
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Think this Death Knight card is bugged. It doesn't heal me for 3 after the damage is dealt.
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a guy just conceded to me 1 second after we loaded into the game and then the game punished me in my very next game by making me end up with both cliff dives and every single large minion in my deck after the mulligan
quite literally "you weren't supposed to win that game, give it back NOW".script
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well done balance team well done
hunter egg and aggrodin crying in corner....
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>>521056330
It's a combo deck bro you're supposed to apply pressure and kill him before turn 7 while he does nothing.
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>>521055531
No, location is not you. Mistah Vistah is also not you if you were going to put him in imbue druid
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>>521056440
Sadge.
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ropecoach
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>>521056416
combo my ass...
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I bet jia created that one. worst anomaly ever
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>>521057165
it was funny when it span different wheels for everybody so you could get jackshit while the opponent gets a 20/20+ buff on their board
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>>521056440
Oh damn so it wouldn't work for Projectionist Orb either.
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Play all your Collosissy bro.... show me real damage
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do roguetards think they are a better player because their cards cost zero?
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>>521055983
can you feed me more on this rigged "conspiracy"?
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>rat a priests combo piece
>rope me out every turn
>present lethal to warrior
>rope me as well
Faggots, all
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>got scammed by bears
>somehow remove it
>dude plays double 10/10 zilliax next turn
scam scam scam we love scam...
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>>521057271
still happens with wand of roasting, I got like 50/50 worth of stats for free on turn 3 while my opponents had 30/30 at most
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>>521058341
some people believe matchmaking is rigged and take your deck into account instead of just your mmr (ex you pick a meta deck and you're often pitted against counters, or you pick a shit homebrew and are queued against other shit homebrews)
I'm not sure about it but it does feel strange at times switching decks and all the deck you encounter suddenly changing
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>>521059321
If the "stats" say that forcing a 50% win rate is what is best for the profits

Don't you think that blizzard will do whatever it takes to achieve that?
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You can easily test this right now yourself. Make a deck full of basic neutrals. You will get matched against someone doing the same.
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>>521059798
that's what mmr is for
deck rigging would be to maximing engagement somehow by avoiding matches that cause people to stop playing, not for 50/50
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>>521059940
not everytime if system cant find match they throw you into any metadeck
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Signature cards are fucking atrocious holy fuck.
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>no minion mage
>with full starcraft package (w.o colosissy)
im missing something ?
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>>521060234
yeah, as a returning player, 3d skins and signature cards look so out of place. Diamond cards are kinda cool I guess but I'm still a fan of the old aesthetic, golden cards are really the best ones
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>>521060662
I think it only plays photon cannon? Maybe the armor card
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Agamaggan will be relevant soon.
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>>521062261
>Agamaggan
its won me multiple games on hunter after i play malorne
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Make a custom imbue power for classes that don't have it.
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>>521062047
no full package i played untill fatique with him Artanis canons draws armor....
weird deck ended with 40 armor and supernova spam... too bad i have 20/20 demons already
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>>521059940
The game is rigged, this is known.
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wow im again diamond 3 cant wait to see more zarimis.... big demon armorlock at least kill other shit
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Spell Mage can summon two 5/6 Muklas 40% of the time. That's crazy.
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>>521067320
statistically true if there were 5 3-cost minions in the pool
>there's actually 56 of them
oh no
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>>521036746
I don't get how I'm supposed to pilot this
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>>521062508
>rogue
discover a card from your opponent's deck. it costs x less.
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No shot you go wisp + draw 3 for 3 mana. Like It's totalling +1. And It's a two card combo. Just like put novice engineer in your deck and It'll do more.
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>>521069269
way too strong
get random from opp class costs x less is maybe acceptable
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>>521073026
how dare a hypothetical imbue deck actually be usable without starcraft shit carrying it
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>>521073247
just compare it to priest who gets trash cards AND they're temporary + you can still run protoss shit + everything is always better in rogue
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>>521073457
guaranteed priest gets a rework
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Protoss Mage is only 15 cards if you run all of them. I wonder what are the best options to pair it with. I'm going to make a lot of deck variants and play with them. It's all still new to me because I haven't played in a few months. But like the Imbue Mage Finisher is no Mordresh that's for sure I don't even want to try it out because the finisher seems underwhelming. It's so common for everyone to have a million stats on board so I don't see how that card is ever useful. The Imbue package is only like 12 cards maybe so there's a lot of room also with the rest of the deck.
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I am convinced that starships ruined the game.
>Pieces cannot be removed until the ship is activated
>Provide multiple effects that can swing the board to your favor
>Almost every good piece is neutral or shared class so everyone can play this cancer

Why did they do this?
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It's time for this sets unplayable 4mana 3/6.
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>>521069183

like this ;) , so basically you try to look for the dog and the epic 1 drop with 2 frost spells and then trade the dog into enemy board and get this board on turn 4-5, no class can clear this except DK and Mage with that 1 mana spell the rest just lose to this.

I changed the deck from the one above though and added lord Xavius instead of 2 Marrow Manipulator to make it more contestant and win rate got even better now
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Only 8/11 Classes can build Starships. That's something to think about.
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>>521076331
only 1 class (DK) is based and has deck variety that isn't varying flavors of aggro, think about that
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>>521076148
Cheers, gonna give it a whirl
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>>521076331
No It's 9/11. I think It's only Mage and Priest don't have one. I wonder why.
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>>521076567

good luck mate, also the best part is that people will mulligan thinking you are diaper DK ;)
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>>521076439
It really took over Paladins place as the goodstuff deck.
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Any of these cards worth crafting?
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>>521077298

Skyla, but now she isn't playable but maybe later will become playable again
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>>521077479
Wow the Rogue cards you get access to are all bad.
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>>521077992

yeah was mostly used to the card effect itself
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There's never been a meta with as many viable decks of all kinds as right now
>Diaper/Starship/Managerie DK
>Scam DH
>Scam/Protoss/Aggro Rogue
>Zarimi/Aggro Priest
>Imbue Druid
>Protoss/Imbue Mage
>Handbuff/Imbue/Aggro Hunter
>Tree Pala
>Mill/Control Warlock
>Murmur/Terran Shaman
>Food/Terran Warrior
shaman/warrior are kinda shit but can still win games
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>Meta is actually just Armour Warlock vs Zarimi.
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>>521060110
>that's what mmr is for
in theory yes but this idealized version of an mmr is extremely exploitable if it's just a raw number that doesn't factor in other things like account age and overall account skill level and things like this
basically, if all they did was strict MMR matchmaking, good players would just tank their mmr down to the floor whenever they're at a rank threshold. (and this IS what people have historically done in hearthstone)
the rigging has gotten more and more powerful as players have gotten better and better at exploiting the system. and it's not just hs that works this way. all games do. but especially f2p mtxslop games like hearthstone.
the devs are whale hunting and anyone who isn't a whale is basically an enemy of the devs. your purpose is to play a role so that the whales feel compelled to whale out
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>>521078525
>Mill/Control Warlock
God I fucking wish these were anywhere near good
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>>521077479
there were some imbue skyla lists floating around like T3 or so the last days I think
but im too lazy to check d0nkey
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This card has been an absolute wet fart. I have not seen a single opponent use this with a great result.
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>>521078719
what the absolute fuck is armor warlock
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>>521080221
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>>521080221
they loop deathrattles with Archdruid of the Thorn to get hunreds, sometimes thousdands of armor. Also if they do it right you can have each deathrattle trigger put a card in your deck then make both players draw a card.
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>>521077298
No
Elemental decks only
Fuck no
Decent
I like this card, but it's too slow
Priest is the best draenei class
Actually good for certain combo decks
OP in certain elemental decks when played on curve due to how one elemental carries it over so you can get +7 spell damage out of nowhere
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>>521080214
I've won a few games from hand with it swinging in with 15/x charge windfury, but not many. Too many taunts in this dragony meta.
My best Wallow win was the most drawn out slugfest with a leech DK who extended the game a thousand years with Kil'jaeden. I had to whittle through his 6 board clear options by filling my board full of dark gift goodies over and over and over until I finally had a Wallow so monstrous it tore through his 80 health in two turns.
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>>521079560
control warlock is the nuts
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>>521080702
it's the most boring diaper deck ever though. literal anti-fun deck for both players in the game
probably why it's tier 0
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>>521080702
>wisp
what for? just to eat the imp?
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>>521081183
yes. faster cycling.
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>>521080702

>95% of the cards in the deck are removal

Yeah thanks I'll pass on this one
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>>521076954
It’s pretty fun when I get the combo off
Still too brainlet to get about 55% winrate but I find it much more fun than succ dk
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>>521078525
>warlock
>shaman
>viable
lol
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>>521084096

stats across all ranks means nothing, the only stats that matter are top 5k legend
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OOPS IT'S TURN 8 NARALEX YSERA BRIARSPAWN BRIARSPAWN ZARIMI
I am getting tired of how disgustingly consistent it is
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>>521084328
all these otk decks are just boring to me. balancing them out because they lose to fast stuff (sometimes) and claiming the wr is fine is just stupid
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This meta is actually one of the best in a while, you got control aggro and otk decks that plays differently and no one feels op and superior to others and each class got at least 1 good deck, I hope the miniset doesn't ruin this.

Cora seems to be learning!
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>>521084276
>o-only legend matters!!!!!
>when 90% of this thread is probably in gold or lower
sure thing anon
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>>521085224
bro...
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>Can't even climb to gold 10 reliably because every deck is either faster or counters my playstyle
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>>521085224
I'm the kind of player that can grind up to diamond 5 but then gets my ass kicked literally every single game 0% winrate somehow
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>>521085426
look at the posts following yours and tell me im wrong
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>queue
>they rope turn 1
why every single fucking game though?
fuck these rope scripts and fuck you if you're a human who ever ropes. fuck off
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>>521085224
Im pretty sure we are all Diamond here...

right?!
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>>521085913
I WILL rope if you are playing a faggy tryhard netdeck
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>>521059321
>some people believe matchmaking is rigged and take your deck into account instead of just your mmr (ex you pick a meta deck and you're often pitted against counters, or you pick a shit homebrew and are queued against other shit homebrews)
>I'm not sure about it but it does feel strange at times switching decks and all the deck you encounter suddenly changing
Back before UiS you used to get a large variety of decks no matter what deck you personally used, these days it feels like the matchmaking gives you the same decks again and again. Anyone who played in Descent of Dragons or previous would tell you matchmaking has definitely changed. How it's changed is up for debate but it is not how it used to work.
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Thinking of crafting this for a triple unholy DK. I know this isn't super meta but I'm running corpse flower so that's not too much of a concern. Is this card at least good for that kind of deck?
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>>521088214
i present to you the card that i run in every deck that would solve 99% of this general's problems if they just used it
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>randomly generate a flytrap on board
>start doing the doggo combo
>get it insanely boosted, could have gotten it to 50+ damage
>opponent concedes
Fuck you if you are like this
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>>521089285
when I see the goofiness going I just hit WOW and let it go
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>>521087878
>Back before UiS you used to get a large variety of decks no matter what deck you personally used, these days it feels like the matchmaking gives you the same decks again and again
Maybe it's a regional thing but in EU I rarely get the meta decks people complain about it. I am actually surprised if I see a zarimi priest
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>>521088214
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Everytime I've played it it's been underwhelming
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>>521088214
I mean it's better than corpse flower
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>>521088606
what if my problem is dh/rogue doing 20 damage from hand for 5+ turns in a row
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>>521092641
>dh
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>>521093613
>press cliff dive and swing
>berry complicated
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>boot up the game
>closes immediately
>boot up the game
>closes immediately
>boot up the game
>closes immediately
is it a sign?
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how is menagerie paladin doing? i dont really see anyone talking about it
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Amazing how this card can't even make into any wild deck nowadays.
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>>521100358
(you)
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>>521100615
It's they/them.
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>>521101452
I know. I could tell.
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>>521087878
The matchmaking didn't change. You just have way less players and the players that remained are all going to be much better than the people who moved on, thus they will run better decks.

There simply are not many people running non-meta decks anymore, especially in standard. This is a problem with all competitive games that outlive their intended lifespans.
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>>521094582
>dh relevant for .5 seconds
>start crying
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>>521102496
>DH accidentally good
>emergency nerf until it isn't
many such cases
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>>521102778
good. the game became significantly worse after dh was released
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>>521103823
It was actually aggressively shitty, even worse than now, immediately before DH was released.
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When you guys are losing do you power through or take a break?
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>>521104738
I think part of my secret to having a very high winrate in every mode I play is that I basically never play for more than aboout 40 minutes without taking a 4+ hour break.
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>>521102391
"Rigged MMR" is the most cope take every produced. Really think about it for a second for this system to exist there would have to be players benefiting from such a system but yet somehow this "rigged mmr" there is a saturation of players being disproportionately affected. So where are the other half winning from getting the most optimal opponents?
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>>521104738
I dont really care if I lose much if im stuck in diamond 5 or im playing a super fun deck like starship rogue. I only start getting tilted as fuck is if im diamond 1 and start sliding to diamond 3 and instantly swap to whatever the fuck counters the most annoying meta deck that consistently rekts me every game
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>>521105837
>So where are the other half winning from getting the most optimal opponents?
I am here, posting my dogshit meme combo deck wins, a good 50-60% of them are wins I didn't deserve at fucking all.
I don't talk much because seeing people mald about how there is no rigging is mad funny because you dumb niggers don't grasp how cryptographic proof (matchmaking is a cryptographic algorithm, get fucked I won't elaborate) is supposed to be administered.
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>>521105837
rigging MMR 100% exists though
>play deck A, it loses to deck B 80% of the time and you keep queueing into deck B
>you get tilted, switch to deck C which beats Deck B 80% of the time
>you now queue into deck A+C+D, the deck B you saw 80% last 20 games dont show up once the next 15 games
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>>521107992
>there's an algo that makes the game intentionally worse
interesting. Blizzard must hate money
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>>521102496
when was I crying stupid retard
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Holy Bros!!! Imbue priest absolutely shits on Diaper DK
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>>521109664
right now :^)
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>>521110626
The deck is braindead and does 20 face damage per turn, that's just stating facts
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>>521108292
it's always the same shit with rigfags
>GAME IS RIGGED AND MAKING ME LOSE!!!!
>"how?"
>SECRET ALGORITHM TO MATCH ME AGAINST COUNTERS
>"why?"
>BECAUSE IT MAKES ME MAD SO I KEEP PLAYING
>"that's stupid"
>IT'S NOT SHUT UP
>"any proof?"
>IT'S UNDETECTABLE CRYPTOGRAPHIC NIGGERIFIC AI AND NO I WON'T ELABORATE
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>>521111983
while whining like a little bitch
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there is literally nothing wrong with whining like a little bitch
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>No viable warrior decks

I'm sad...
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>>521112771
why are you acting like a rape victim
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>>521116429
incel fingers wrote this comment.
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How would you feel if the path to legend was not a bottleneck but instead you could be matched with any player from any rank?

I have more fun playing casual mode than climbing, which is fucking aids. Everyone's playing the same garbage decks. Zero fun to be had.
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When they ask you why standard equals shit.
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>>521119782
Imbue hunter, zerg hunter, protoss mage, hydration station anything— are all unironic terrible decks.
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>>521119782
brewmaster is a much bigger problem than plush/colossus
in fact just remove all these cards and make the list brewmaster and shadowstep
>HURR LOOK I PLAYED IT AGAIN!!!!
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>>521119315
>waaaah why can’t I bully new players in bronze with my le epic meta net deck while they have fun
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>>521121314
You are unironically retarded.
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>>521123496
>1% popularity
???
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>>521123496
>1% popularity
yeah that's what I thought
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>Imbue druid wastes his taunt spell buffing a 1/1 on turn 2
>dies because I can ignore his tauntless 10/10 golem later on
many such cases
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what are the next round of nerfs going to hit?
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>>521127198
Don't bother looking at winrates to figure out what. Just look through this thread and through hearthstone reddit to see what people are crying about, thats certainly the next hit. KJ.
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>>521102391
>The matchmaking didn't change. You just have way less players and the players that remained are all going to be much better than the people who moved on, thus they will run better decks.
>
>There simply are not many people running non-meta decks anymore, especially in standard. This is a problem with all competitive games that outlive their intended lifespans.
I'm fairly certain it's a mixture of both, it's why I said the matchmaking changed but didn't attribute a postive or negative judgement on it. They've likely made at least a few tweaks to cope with fewer players. I would never call it rigged because I highly doubt they give a shit about making people lose.
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>start playing menagerie paladin for the first time
>never saw a starship shaman previously
>play 3 back to back all spamming missile pod
want to tell me again how this faggot shit isnt rigged
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>>521133472
>4 in a row now
i wish i was making this shit up. literally had never seen one prior. all 4 of them using missile pod, lightning storm, jim raynor, etc. for low damage board clears.

they 100% tailor your matchmaking to your deck
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>opponent plays double boulderfist ogre turn 7
how do you proceed
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>rotation will save hs
>the nerfs will save us
>the mini-set will save us <- (You are here)
>Shrouded City will save us
>the nerfs will save us
>the mini-set will save us
>the nerfs will save us
>
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>>521134214
take your meds
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lunas silence is deafening
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I just got blown the fuck out by some freeze fatigue Warlock deck
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>trump doesnt play hearthstone anymore
>kripp doesnt play hearthstone anymore
>amaz doesnt play hearthstone anymore
>reynad doesnt play hearthstone anymore
if you have bastardized your game so much that the people who made your game famous in the first place all collectively leave something has gone horribly wrong
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>>521110391
It looks like you're losing though.
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>>521149934
How do you innovate on a card game while keeping it simple? Cause I don't think that matters when you look at every card game on the market they all do the same powercreep. Maybe It's inevitable then that the audience eventually dies and the game turns to dust.
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>deathrattle dh ends up being the most fun deck
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why did i queue into 3 imbue shaman in a row
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People are working hard ot bait people into playing Shaman.
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A 1mana 2/1 that gives you arcane missiles is bad. Fuck my chungus life.
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>>521154215
Because you were playing a deck that loses to them.
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They can't nerf King Plush fast enough. How can they make hunter's imbue so powerful and they won't even check the synergies? I am so fucking annoyed by this bullshit.
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>900 XP rerolls into a 900 XP
>For 3 days in a row
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>>521161845
hunter imbue is bad, plush is bad, you are bad
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>>521152289
>innovate
you dont really need to innovate, Cora
its all the same shit different colors but stronger faster better

do ppl really like old cards being unplayable ? if they rework old cards and you get no new expansions for like a year would you still play the game?

also new players find everthing new old cards new its all new to them

cant wait for the last expansion of this year btw
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Should I cut more minions so I can get a strong Xavius everytime?
>Artificer
>Scarab
>Pupil
>Void Ray
>Griftah
>Colosuss
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>>521151920

I won the next turn.
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>>521163384
this deck doesn't work without brewmaster
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Illidan! Versus! Illidan!
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>>521164191
It would help against Death Knight.
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>warlock netdecker eternal layovers my starship pieces
>I have 60 damage face on turn 7
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Yeah there's no way they let a deck like DH and Priest and Rogue just OTK people who have the audacity to play minions. Nerfs soon.
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Every game I get closer and closer to running Burndown.
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>Hey everyone hated the Snake stealing health so you can't heal with no counterplay, so lets build an entire archetype around it
>Hey everyone hated Jades so lets give Druids an entire deck around getting it consistently at the start of game and on a hero power
>If you're not dying to aggro turn 4 you're losing to infinite Kil'jaeden/Ceaseless Expanse

I hate these """designers"""" so fucking much it's unreal
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Peak Hearthstone was Alanna Big Mage.
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HEY GUYS I WENT 50-0 WITH THIS DECK ITS THE NUTS
I hate streamers and their bait shit everytime they had a lucky night
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>>521047572
not guaranteed, since you have that 9 cost rogue spell that summons two 4-costs
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>6th day in a row with a new "best deck"
>the best deck actually changed twice today
meta is actually really good rn damn
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Has there ever been an ultimate card like leech before in hearthstone? Kill minions without taking damage has better lifesteal. Infinite pressure and value generator.
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>>521163384
void rays and warp gates useless cards btw
and your brewmasters dude ? Xavius also useless because you have chronoboost
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>>521115936
nigga ? your Omegabroken drake into egg ?
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>>521115936
I am not. fuck your shitty ass hydration station class. go back to playing tempo decks and we can talk
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>treenigger draws 2 highcost minions with hammer
>i just double rat him
>insta concede
DO NOT REDEEM UTHER
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Any viable aggro for this new expac?
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>>521178915
I saw a menagerie paladin list that looked like it had a good winrate, didn't play it yet though. Anyone tried it?
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>>521179175
lose to single eredar brute or aoe
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Great my rogue opponent is playing a board of 5/5's on turn 4.
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we're so back
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>Have 20 thousand minions in my hand.
>Rat Snipes key card.
Fucking Classic.
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I don't know what's crazier everyone gaining 50+ armour or everyone dying through it.
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>>521178915
>Any ViAblE aGGro FOr tHIS neW eXpAC?
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>have deck based around drawing a specific 2-of card
>have 2 cards that tutor that card
>have 2 cards that tutor the tutor
>don't see any of those 6 cards by turn 6 after a hard mulligan
oy vey
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>>521179721
just like old times
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>>521183784
>Drunk Paladin
10/10 would play
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Haven't seen a Death Knight play a card that wasn't a leech in 8 games. Think they have special deckbuilding rules or what.
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>>521184558
Next expansion can improve this btw....
Master tours when btw ? tomorrow ?
>>521184760
there is frost aggro nigg maybe you play deck that have good wr against frost
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Am I really supposed to play Bob for the chance of rolling the chance to draw the correct minion from my deck so I can duplicate it?
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LMFAO there's new p2w currency in BG's.
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>>521185535
I think it's used mostly for freezing
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>>521185676
>new
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Ahahahah what the fuck.
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>>521185828
>>521185676
Anon wakes up from Ethernal slumber....
they do nothing btw
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>>521185828
keep in mind you have a free reroll every lobby (go next)
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>>521184465
The game is rigged, anyone who denies it haven't played enough or is a marketer.
Even streamers admitted this.
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>>521190578
i love when in lose game (50%) i have 6 8 and 10 cost cards in starting hand and draw only shit Next game i have 1 2 3 cost.... MAAAAAGGIIICCCC
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>>521190578
you will be called a schizo but they simply can not prove you wrong
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>>521191070
Blizzard patents exist....
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>>521191070
I may be crazy but reality is not.
And the reality is that many streamers quit the game because of the constant rigging and they streamed the game for a living, not as a hobby.
The subreddit is controlled by blizzard and the opposition is deleted or downvoted.
The forums are full of negativity but nobody reads those, not even blizzard.
All signs of a failed casino.
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>>521191070
there's nothing to prove wrong though, his source is "dude trust me"
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"There's no way they could possibly do those calculation on what card you need at what point Anon"
>Zephyrs releases
>"Uh I mean I uh schizo!!!!"
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>>521191316
so Blizzard rigged the game which caused game enjoyement to drop but they keep doing it for some reason? surely the super undetectable AI that rigs games costs money so wouldn't it be better for profit and player retention to disable it now that it has shown to be a failed experiment?
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>>521191513
Also brawls that let you draw a 1 cost card at turn 1 proves that they can in fact control the draw possibility of a card.
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>rigged schizo when blizzard has the ability to sort your deck by cost
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>>521191370
the patents are public
at least once a day in this thread someone will post about getting fucked by the algo
and blizzard isn't even the first one to do shit like this
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>>521192390
the same people still bitch about reno, lone ranger
you should take the word of the deranged with a gain of salt
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>>521192390
the "patent" you keep schizoing about is about matchmaking to maximize paypigging, not somehow affecting all in-game rng to fuck you personally over so you get mad about it
and I'm pretty sure the rig posts are from the same 2 or 3 people, this general doesn't have that many posters
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I wonder if mmr based matchmaking intersects with rigged algorithms. Like If two players win more they're going to go against players who are playing decks that win more. You could be winning more because you are skilful(Obviously). And your opponent is winning more because they are farming everyone playing your deck. So naturally you'll end up versing eachother. Thinking about it this way rigged situations occur even when that's not the specific goal.
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>>521193675
Rigging happens in many different ways.
One way is by sabotaging the mulligan.
If you send away a ten cost card and it immediately comes back, then you are playing a rigged game.
If 33% of your deck consists of one cost cards and you don't draw any of them on turn 1 but you draw one on turn 2 then you should know that you are playing a rigged game.
Obviously deck matchups are also part of the rigging that is happening but it is not limited to this.
Supposedly random effects are also a way they use to rig games.
The rigging was so obvious when the game was popular and every year a new player won the world tournament because blizzard decides the winner.
They let that Chinese woman win when they wanted the Chinese market for example.
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What's beating Zarimi priest to keep them from dominating? They have an insanely consistent turn 7 50+ OTK.
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>>521177569
Void Ray feels great to use because it helps with playing warp gate without insta losing. Without Warp Gate how are you playing your Colossus and bouncing them with any consistency? Hoping to play the 8mana card for free every game?
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>>521194295
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>>521194525
LMFAO 10 years later and Rogue is still keeping priest down.
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I want to participate in a small standard tournament. Has anyone done this before? I have to pick 3 decks. I'm pretty sure I want one to be Zarimi priest, but what could the other 2 be? Should I do an aggro and control deck so I have one type of each?
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>>521194525
>total games: 79
nice sample rate
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>>521194076
>if you get unlucky, then you are actually playing a rigged game
I take it you think the only rigged games are the games you lose?
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>>521194295
2 clumsy steward and 2 rats in your deck
but you still lose to insane tempo
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>play fast decks
>never once see a zarimi priest or otk hunter
>switch to a slower deck
>3 zarimi priests in a row then two plush hunters
something tells me this matchmaking is just slightly rigged
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To lose to Imbue Hunter you have to be a proper AFK deck not even playing cards.
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>>521199386
my imbue hunter does quite well though i dont rely only on plush
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>>521197561
how the fuck do you even pilot this? what is your board pressure and wincon
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>>521199651
Don't fall for the bait.
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>>521199749
i mean i have all of the cards its not baiting anything im just wondering how that would even work
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>>521199651
>board pressure
just clear the opponent's board until you can get to your big cards (although spot the difference can win by itself when high-rolled)
>wincon
usually just fling whatever burn manufacturing error draws at the opponent's face, otherwise it's shaladrassil or getting a crazy board from yoggbox (happens more often than you'd think)
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>>521191316
>The subreddit is controlled by blizzard
I browse it sometimes and I do notice negative threads tend to stay stuck at 0 likes. There's also a constant circle of the same posters that visit such threads to shit on OP and they come off to me as either turbo autists or genuine shills.
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>>521197561
>2 dirty rats
LMAO
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Is this card good?
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>>521202713
legitimately obnoxious to play against if you use tree or that spell that deals 10 lifesteal damage
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>>521202813
I'll look into it more then. I have the other pally legendary as well, so maybe I can make a deck with both.
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>>521202713
you can fit it almost in any pala deck i seen aggro with tree+ursol +hammer for draw both
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>>521202713
It's a win condition on It's own.
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>>521202713
Biggest make they have done making a two card OTK.
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Fuck man is Warrior dead. I only have warrior cards.
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>>520911123
Would be very good balance if it wasnt for shaman and lock
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>>521204269
>very good
even reddit mock meta
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>>521204269
>Would be very good balance if it wasnt for shaman and lock
a single set, starcraft, is defining the entire meta for nearly every class. it is not good balance.
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>>521204482
DK is the saving grace of this absolute dogwater expansion shut your fucking mouth
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>>521204715
>Carried by KJ and one card
That sucks...
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>>521205321
what the fuck is a KJ
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>>521202713
drunk paladin might be a legit tier 1 deck and tree paladin is a good tier 2 one. so yeah that card is very strong right now and will be because you can tutor it with the new weapon
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>>521205481
yes DK flavored aggro is the saving grace, sure
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>>521206565
Your alternative classes are flavors of
>scam deck
>scam deck
>otk scam deck
>otk scam deck
>otk scam deck
aggro is BASED
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I beat Thijs today gg noob :)
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Here's my turn 9 sir, it's your turn now
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>>521205481
>carried by King Mukla and other 20 old cards
LMAO thats even funnier
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>>521207345

Okay but have you beat Dane in wild during his peak era before ? :)
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>>521207538
don't play wild much so probably not (and I always run hyper aggro there)
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>>521199512
what's your deck?
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>>521207383
Any Aoe
Big Game Hunter
Trade Hogs
33% Dirty Rat your KJ
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>>521206920
if I'm playing aggro I choose the hunter flavor there is nothing that piss DK list does better than your average zerg egg hunter
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>>521207538

Dane isn't insanely good at the game, he is just good at theory-crafting decks.
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Can't even beat bots with this Terran Warrior deck. Class is dead.
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>>521207918

>33% Dirty Rat your KJ

didn't need him as I won next turn ;)
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>>521208238
play pic related
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>>521208238

DK is the new diaper king
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>>521208294
Tales from bronze....
Any skilled dh runs 2x BIG GAME HUNTER
>>521208512
does it matter ? KJ neutral
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>>521208672
nta but I think it does matter since DK has multiple premium board clears and diapers up harder than anything right now, KJ is just there if starship+10 drop flood doesn't win
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Bros why is an 8mana Thor so fucking shit?
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>hate piloting the meta decks
>the jank decks fold instantly to the meta decks
this sucks, man
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>If Cliff Dive summons Maghteridon, he simply stays there
Is this intended behaviour?
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>>521208238
Good.
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Naaaaaah bro Priest having a 3mana twisting nether is too much.
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>>521211370
yes, the dormant mechanic is retarded as a whole
same thing with the armor warlock deck, if they play eternal layover while ancient of yore (not dormant) is on board, it will come back as dormant
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i made a wild deck specifically to farm the summon 15 wild gods quest and im still not done with it like 3 hours later
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>>521212683
It's truly tortorous, consider doing it in Shaman as, if the stars align, you can Shudderblock+Malorne for an easy +3, plus hardrun whatever the Shaman bird is called if you have it. On the other hand the last step can be easily done in like 3-4 Imbue Druid games.
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https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-319/

Diaper dk is tier 1 and controlfags still act like they‘re victims
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Hydration station on Starship actually sucks because It's all battlecries? What the fuck blizzard?
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>>521213638
It's always been like that for as long as I remember. The diaper meme was originally not because of the lenght of the games, but because they're constantly crying like toddlers.
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Am I supposed to launch a lot of little starships using cost reduction?
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>>521214307
you're not supposed to play that trash card
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>>521214448
Think about it. We launch two starships before Reynor. Reynor launches two. This becomes 25 damage.
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>>521161845
There is no denying that players are desperate to make Imbue Hunter work, but the deck is undoubtedly trash. This is some Tickatus Warlock/Reno Warrior level of cope here, considering how popular it is and how little it wins.
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>>521214607
I didn't notice it has the [Random] Keyword. That's just awful isn't it.
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>>521213638
s-shaman meta breaker
*COUGH* s-soon...
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>>521214607
Ships launched by Raynor are not ships launched by you, and do not add to Thor's missile count.
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>>521215075
This game is ass.
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>>521214994
the only thing shaman wins against is menagerie decks because of their 20 board clears in a starship deck
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>>521215075
This news has deflated and devastated me. What's the point of living.
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am i destined to be a treenigger
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>>521215498
I was hoping for the meta to become menagerie vs zarimi for this very reason but alas. Murmur viability waiting room for me.
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>>521215772
Granted it is a small sample size but this is D4 and it is surprisingly fun.
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getting fucking tired of Zarimi bros
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This could be one of the most interesting Standard formats in recent memory, a result of a very good balance patch from Team 5 that correctly addressed the discrepancy in power between the Starcraft mini-set and everything else. Now, the meta is wide open. Things we did not think could be viable, are becoming viable. Enjoy the current decks featured in this report and do not miss next week’s report. It could be yet another banger.
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>>521216027
>tree
thats a yes
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Does Warrior have a single good card. They aren't even listed on meta sites as having a deck.
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>>521216403
yes the same boring shit they did for a year. you can climb with hydration station its just boring as shit and luckily nobody cares
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>start playing a low hp minion deck
>immediately play against 5x more shamans
its not a meme
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>>521216403
Food fight was a decent deck
Till Blizzard decided to nerf it for whatever reason
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>>521217052
It's so obvious they aren't even trying to hide it.
Only marketers try to sway clueless customers.
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>>521216403
Warrior will never be allowed to have an interesting deck again, just removal slop, armor slop and the same annoying shit Big Priest did 10 years ago. This is the future Warrior players have chosen.
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Holy fuck I beat Imbue Hunter with Terran Warrior. Man what an awful deck.
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>>521213638
Holy fuck that wheel warlock list is absolute garbage. Hard running 2 wisps, 2 glacial shards and 2 slippery slopes is insane. Even 2 cursed campaigns is dumb when they‘re useless without yore. These guys really just need to put the stats out and stop trying to deckbuild
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>>521213638
sometimes I wonder if they mix in shit deck lists just to troll or if they are really that clueless and arrogant?
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>signature imbue mage bundle
>none of the cards are about imbue
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is imbue mage really that bad without protoss? i want to play it but i dont want to do starcraft niggery
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>>521221883
It's not great with or without protoss, despite what some resident schizo leads you to believe. Anyway you're not supposed to craft starcraft shit but to simply buy the miniset.
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>>521222015
>Anyway you're not supposed to craft starcraft shit
its not a matter of crafting i dont want to use starcraft at all. shame its bad though i like the idea of it
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>>521222190
Say what you want about the Starcraft miniset, but ironically it's vibes are closer to warcraft than whatever Cora has shat down in the last 2 years. I'd gladly take Starcraft over toys and the beach episode (no sexy women allowed)
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Shaman and warrior are in the gutter for one simple reason. Blizzard is fucking retarded and gave both classes no early game minions.
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>>521222534
shaman has one of the strongest 1 and 2 drops in the game. they just have shit synergy with the rest of shamans kit
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>>521221883
protos payoff is literally better than imbue legendary so yeah
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Fuck that rogue card. Literally Divine Favour on steroids.
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Is Imbue Druid the new cuckold deck in town?
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>>521223765
>played imbue druid since day 1 of the expansion
>its always been strong
>everybody shit on the deck
>now everybody is playing it
fuck all of you
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>>521226296
dont worry bro I played cliffdive dh and people thought I was gay and dumb and only armor is good
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>>521226296
Your deck is as braindead as aggro.
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>>521226540
genuinely how do you do good with cliff dive? just lost 3 in a row to various bullshit (starship DK, fucking murmur shaman somehow)
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>>521227597
>starship DK
This is probably the most underrated deck in the entire meta right now.
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This meta is awful. Once everyone starts playing all the turn 6 OTK deck I'm going to dip.
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What's the point of removal when everything has elusive anyway?
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>>521228038
OTKs don't belong in standard, that's my opinion.
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>>521228267
>dk corpse explosion
>tortilla having elusive
>dark gift minions having elusive
>zarimi existing
>leeches existing
hearthstone devs dont know what the fuck is going on
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Remember that this game is a circus and we are the clowns.
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>>521227597
its a highroll deck against decks that gain tons of life and armor (like dk)
but against everything else you pretty much just have to curve out and look at the cliffdive more like a bonus
also lots of pepega list going around which one are you using?
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>>521228313
I agree if control also doesn‘t. Let them duke it out in wild. While control is a thing otk decks need to exist to keep them down
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>>521229023
i'm running this
used to have the 2 mana discover a demon with dark gift but it just fucked up the cliff dive so i removed it
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>>521229076
No, not really. Aggro keeps control in check. Control is dead to OTK regardless.
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Who decided randomly Terran should have a lone hand discard minion?
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just a few more buffs and maybe shaman will be stronger than whizbang
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>>521231102
warlock whizbang is the best deck in standard
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>>521229581
yeah that one is ass and so is the dragon atm so yours doesnt look that bad. I dont use shaladrassil and paraglide and run double eye beam instead.
should not make that big of a difference though. against dk and warlock (and warrior if you see any) hard mulligan for cliff dive
for everything else try to play ball hog into felhunter into return policy curve
tuspiercer wyvern slumber hog felhunter return policy/cliff dive is your optimal curve in most cases
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Ahahaha I'm playing Shaman and everyone is discovering Tortilla ahahaha fucking kill me
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>>521229076
Imagine complaining about control. How retarded are you? Or are you just complaining because you're a f2p Andy? Control suffers from the same shit that everything else has. Poorly designed cards that actively destroy the game.
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>shaman opponent has not imbued their hero power a single time
>plays malorne
>gets the discovers
???? is it bugged or what
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>>521232915
Read the card
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>>521232915
you can always discover but they only cost 1 if you imbued 4x
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>>521230039
control counters aggro shitter
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>>521232915
from the makers of prep coin and shudderblock aessina
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You are like baby. :^)

Watch this.
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>>521233353
dragons hit sneeds summon 2 tortillas
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Was Incindius always 5 eruptions? I swear it was more. That's hardly anything for a 7mana do nothing card.
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>>521233581
>sneed
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>>521233585
yes he was always 5, you probably played during prime cycle rogue days when they could copy it with sonya
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>>521233585
it's more when rogue bounces it 3 times
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/1LzDSEvjwA
uh oh diaper meltdown
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Holy shit check this bait out.
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>>521233271
And that's a good thing.
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Diaper DK crying after I ratted his KJ
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ahah such great design amirite?
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>>521236127
yep and otk countering control is also good
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>>521237216
Aggro can counter Control though.
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>>521235724
its actually the highest performing deck for mage right now
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>>521237291
everything counters control when you play it
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>>521237445
Exactly, it's the other way around that's not true.
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>>521237445
Then why are you bitching about control you retard?
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>signature imbue mage bundle
>its neither of their imbue cards
explain
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>>521238312
>20 euros for this shit

ahahah
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>>521238312
Hahahaha that boomkin art is funny :D
I wanna play with moonkin cards!!!!
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>>521236653
>calls the other player a diaper deck
>is running Dirty Rat
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>>521238312
imbue mage got fucked over in general what even IS this card art
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>>521239562
HAHAHAHAH funny tauren mage XD
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>>521239562
Is this one better?
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>>521237704
>>521237549
case in point

you can't even speak english why are you trying to play control?
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>>521239208
every deck should be running dirty rat right now
>2 mana 2/6 taunt
the card is just OP
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Speaking more than one language actually qualifies you to play control.
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>>521240284
far better
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>>521235724
>>521237426
>skyla for 0 mana tsunami and tree
i see the vision
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>>521243243
its garbage anon dont be baited
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>just played against bounce asteroid rogue
i love that someone is trying that and i hate that the meta is so fucked that it stood absolutely no chance
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is ceaseless even worth running anymore
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I've been playing and building lots of different variations of Imbue Priest and it's become pretty obvious to me that they overbalanced this mechanic super fucking hard. They were concerned about Priest having the potential to play out an infinite grind game(which based on the play-rates of diaper dk and warrior consistently being 40% of the ranked ladder is what the game's population wants) and both neutered the Hero Power and the card pool of Priest. They were very careful about not giving Priest a single card that could net advantage, Priest has literally 0 class cards that generate advantage right now in Standard. In addition to that they made the Hero Power laughably bad. The only 2 playable imbue hero powers are Druid's and Mage's, why? because you invest resources into it, pay 2 mana and it wins you the game through board pressure. Shaman's hero power does literally nothing and evolve shaman has only ever been good when you are evolving passively on top of well statted cards or evolving an entire board of tokens. Jade Druid and Hero Power Mage both existed in the past and they were not broken in the sense of having impenetrable play patterns but when Evolve Shaman and Control Priest have consistently in the past ended games in completely uncontrollable ways for the opponent and I think surveys or something has told them that players do not find that happening to be satisfying. So Shaman gets a hero power that is useless, realistically it needs to affect a minion and it's adjacent minions or the entire board or every imbue needs to make the value jump by 2. 1 Imbue should make the evolution be a 2 mana jump, having to play 2 shitty dogass trash imbue cards just to make my hero power give me a result equivalent to its mana cost is fucking dick when other classes have 4 and 5 mana cards that will literally end the game and i'm turning my 2 drop into a spider tank. Why the fuck would I ever press my Hero Power? (1/?)
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>>521244352
that deck is decent probably just bad player or draw
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>>521245579
>that deck is decent
this is the only rogue list i see running asteroids
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>>521245182
No.
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>>521245569
Imbue priest should be a discover mechanic. I understand that it's OP, but it's unplayable in its current state anyway.
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>>521245904
probably because the other rogue decks aren't asteroid rogue
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>>521245569
To win a control game you need to swing tempo in your favor with your high costed cards and win in card advantage. DK is a good control deck because it has tons of card advantage and tons of ways to swing tempo as well as tons of lifegain. It can stabilize in all of the ways that control decks need to stabilize.

Priest has bad healing, no card draw or generation, bad board wipes(except for the one that requires you to sack hp to use in the healing class with no healing), no ability to decrease the cost of it's cards to swing tempo, no NOTHING! All priest can do is play one shitty card a turn. The Hero Power is supposed to generate that "card advantage" but how could it ever? I can't generate a minion of a spell that is a +1. I have to imbue 3 times by turn 4 for me to be playing cards of any value, I can use my hero power and discover a card of a mana value i cant even play, if I need to be reactive I get the 1/30 chance for the one reactive spell I need, if i need to be proactive i get a 1/30 chance for the one minion i need. It's so fucking unbelievably useless. If I press the button on turn 5 or 6 and it does NOTHING I literally lose the game on the spot. Why is the control class getting value that needs to be used right away? Why are tempo decks in other classes getting better value than a control deck? These people are such fucking faggots man. Poor fucking shaman too, they have no clue how to balance this class. They just give it broken legendaries and nerf it every single time neutral cards are so good that it becomes op.
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>>521235724
>have tourist
>no eudora
straight to hell....
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>>521239208

Dirty rat hard counters at least 4 of the top meta decks (imbue hunter, protoss mage, zarimi priest, diaper dk)
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>>521247429
Is protoss priest still a thing after rotation? I know some of the copy cards have been lost. At least when you get random cards from mothership they're guaranteed to be protoss cards that are strong on average.
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>>521248008
+Tree Paladin useless if you RAT Ursol
+Rogue if you rat Eruption nigger
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>>521246758
not sure why it didnt attach the picture but the winrate shows its not that great
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You now remember the AI pixel art portraits
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>>521245182
no, it's playable way too late into the game, you're better off putting something you can actually use before turn 20 in your deck
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>>521251402
it was hilarious
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>>521252143
Truly a game for cuckolds.
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>>521253907
There's a reason why it is known as Cuckstone in the TGC circles.
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>>521252143
these look better than the ones we got
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>4 of the top meta decks (imbue hunter, protoss mage, zarimi priest, diaper dk)
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>>521252143
shame, because pixel art portraits would have been kino
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>4 zarimi priests in a row
>add dirty rat to my deck
>another 3 zarimi priests in a row
blizzard I figured out your algorithm
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i'm neither a coomer nor a skin whale, but that valeera skin from the event is really nice
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>pure fatigue diaper knight is the most popular deck in the game and one of the strongest
k, I'm out until they nerf this shit again. have fun diaper players, you asked for le control meta now you get to have fun with 45 minute KJ ties
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>>521213638
>retards clapping like seals because THIS META IS GREAT
>you can play neutralstone menagerie jug aggro, scam, otk or diaper knight
>or you can get brutally crushed by one of the above
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>>521254216
that's because the ones we got were also AI generated. Blizzard just did it themselves instead of paying someone else to churn out slop.
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### Imbue Mage
# Class: Mage
# Format: Standard
#
# 2x (1) Seabreeze Chalice
# 2x (1) Slumbering Sprite
# 2x (2) Bitterbloom Knight
# 2x (2) Divination
# 2x (2) Spirit Gatherer
# 2x (2) Stellar Balance
# 1x (3) Q'onzu
# 2x (3) Rising Waves
# 2x (3) Starsurge
# 2x (4) Flutterwing Guardian
# 2x (4) Merry Moonkin
# 2x (4) Resplendent Dreamweaver
# 2x (5) Sleet Skater
# 2x (5) Wisprider
# 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 1x (8) Aessina
# 1x (8) Malorne the Waywatcher
#
AAECAf0EBOPPBqT4Bu/8BvKDBw20pwaBvwaxzgbW+gbc+gac+wb0/Aao/Qb3gQfdiAeaiQfujQf0kQcAAA==
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Find this deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/wYxmL5MjkiKbRDnjn1yEQd/
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>>521259283
Thanks but no thanks
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>>521257656
>you can play aggro, midrange, combo, or control
how horrifying
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>>521257656
anon this meta is unironically the best meta we've had in the last 6 months. The bar is incredibly low but still.
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>play imbue deck
>turn 5
>havent gotten a single imbue card
fun game
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>play against dk
>punished for trying to interact with the board because of corpse explosion
lol
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>>521260040
scam isn't midrange you baiting retard. sitting around doing nothing until you suddenly win on turn 6 is not even remotely midrange
>aggro
yeah, the 1 aggro deck that's 70% neutral minions with 4 different coats of paint
>otk+control
the decks everyone loves to play against, where the first 10 turns are board clears and then either you concede out of boredom or concede because they exodia'd you
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>decide to ladder in wild with exodia paladin
>win 7 in a row easily
>literally nothing but counter decks next 15 games
every single opponent is either
>shadow priest with opening hand attendant
>40 card holy wrath paladin with opening hand combo
>a control deck with opening hand theotar
>or have a way to shuffle or mill my deck
I'm not even mad at these things for existing but the amount of opening hand combos or attendants is ridiculous. The only justice was the imbue mage who had opening hand ETC->theotar, emoted me, then whiffed on the swap.
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>faggot dk high rolls tortilla and omen from his starship
what are you even supposed to do
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Why isn't Xyrella in the Priest core set?
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>8 imbue cards in my deck
>turn 8
>ive drawn two of them
this shit gets kinda old
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>>521264218
play a scam deck or an otk deck. if you're trying to play anything else you're wasting your time
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>win game
>lose game
>win game
>lose game
>win game
>lose game
really obvious matchmaking you have going on here
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>every game ends before i can play a wild god
god fucking DAMNIT LET ME DO THIS QUEST
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>>521262575
>sitting around doing nothing until you suddenly win on turn 6 is not even remotely midrange
this is what midrange has been since before you were born you fucking retard
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every time i try to play elementals in BGs i'm struggling to get a golden meteorite crasher while the guy next to me has a golden djinni and ultraviolet on turn 8
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>>521275939
>BGs
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>>521277036
are you implying any other mode in the game is better right now
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>justice jaina
is this skin any good?
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>>521271724
you better hurry the fuck up, its almost over. malourne counts as one too pretty sure so just play that and the one after it
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>>521277984
>malourne counts as one too
it doesnt
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>every single class has a viable and winnable deck
>/hsg/ redditors will still shit and piss and cum in their diapers
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what are the odds imbue sees literally any support in the next expansion
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zilliax can not rotate fast enough
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giftwrapped whelp is insane for a 1 drop
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>coin kalecgos out
oh oops
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holy lynessa paladin (or drunk paladin on d0nkey) is pretty nuts, I make a big board, my opponent clears it, then I make an even bigger board and they concede

>>521278302
what's the viable shaman deck supposed to be? I haven't seen any recently
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>rotate all board clears to wild
>don't print new ones
>nerf all the board clears staying in standard
>opponent summons like 10 attack worth of minions by turn 3
>die on turn 5
I hecking love board based gameplay.
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>>521256475
add another one and nowq you have another -10%
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>>521286012
Maybe try playing your own minions instead of being a retarded gimmick or otk deck. Board interaction is what hearthstone was built on faggot.
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This card is fucking embarrassing
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you lived long enough to see among us demon hunter become a viable t2 deck
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>>521290082
gnolls are absolute dog shit tier units in rumble
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>>521286012
Kys removals vomit retard. The game never had more viable decks than now. We should permanently delete the very concept of control.
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>>521286012
>WAAAAAAH I CANNOT MINDLESSLY DRAG REMOVALS TO STOP MY OPPONENT FROM PLAYING THE GAME
Good.
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>Starship warlock has entered the game
DK bros... it's owari da
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>>521245182
It's a control mirror card so dead as fuck.
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>>521245569
Shaman is just bad design. If one creature sticks they just win. You can't say the same for Mage or Druid.
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I'm going to play Protoss Priest. What's my Win condition?
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>>521278302
Honeymoon phase is over. I'm versing nothing but Paladin Winning on turn 6 with coins. Rogue winning on turn 4 with an army of 5/5's. Priest winning on turn 7 with 50+ Damage from hand. All are OTK's btw.
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>Warlock draw is so fucking good they are running wisps so they can dump their hand for free.
LMFAO
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Rogue making High Templars was pretty cool.
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Ashamane is one of the cards of all time
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You should get rewarded for dumping your hand like a retard by getting a full hand of 0cost cards.
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How do people lose to imbue Druid? It actually seems pretty weak. Outside of generating trees the 0mana 11/11's are never really going to kill you when their once per turn and his maindeck cards don't actually do anything.
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Make extra turn zarimiggers (bake new thread)
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>>521286012
????????????
please examples
Brawl still here
Cplosion and thread still here
Black hole (demon version) still here
Domino still here
Priest spells also here (now even stronger because dragon spam)
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>>521302054
Highroll
you can easy Malorne into Cenarius on t6 + imbue 6/6 or more
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>Get Aggro'd down by Dragon priest
>Barely able to wipe his board and survive till turn 7
>Kills me next turn from hand
>It was actually an OTK deck
???????
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There are 0zero listing of Protoss Priest. Did it really bomb that hard? I guess Mothership giving Random cards isn't as strong as killing your opponent.
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>>521305120
it was ok till the nerf. now aggro is just plain better
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I'll say it. Nerf tree and the meta is wholesome chungus.
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>>521022390
Kek I should try this. Don't think they have the means of removing it off board either without Fly Off The Shelves.
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>Hearthstone
>Load up that new Cliff Dive DH Deck
>Game 1: Draw Magtherion and both Inquisitors back to back in the first 3 turns
>Game 2: Draw Magtherion and both Inquisitors back to back in the first 3 turns
>Game 3: Draw Magtherion and both Inquisitors back to back in the first 3 turns
>Close Hearthstone go do something else.
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Are any of the 30k dust reddithal valuepale wild decks any good? Cause they all keep exploding on turn 5
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>>521278302
while I agree that there a few decks that should not exist in their current form this meta is 1000x better than anything we had in forever. especially if you are not sweaty and get angry if you lose a few games against the decks you cant win against. its just nice to start hs and see 8 different decks in 10 games
I am at rank 400 and rather stay at this than the meta becoming 60% warlock vs warlock and going to rank 100
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Chills.
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>>521310686

>bronze 6
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>>521311730
You just wait bro. I'm going to include SCV's in the list and launch a Starship every turn leading to 8.
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Hearthstone is Saved.
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>>521310686
>>521313123
based homebrew enjoyer
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goodbye /hsg/
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>>521315493
See you tomorrow.
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>>521315581
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Should I disenchant artanis? Soon we will have the miniset and we might see Protoss nerfed (again) but not him so it might be the last chance for the full refund
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>>521315823
you can always recraft him
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Every protoshitter needs to leave Hearthstone. Outskilled and outplayed :^)
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>random retard in wild adds me to BM
>in 2025
Never happens in standard. Are wildies just retarded?
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>>521318315
>Never happens in standard.
Happened to me once last season because he apparently got super saucy that I used the "wow" emote twice on his big plays
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what form of ESL even is this
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If you chemical spill out tortolla what can they do.
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eternal layover click location
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What the heck when did they add a 4mana twisting nether.
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>>521319958
>>521319958
>>521319958
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>>521310686
>>521313123
never played Thor, does it count the starships re-launched by Raynor?
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>>521320923
Sadly it does not.



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