Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphneCurrent Events:Fighter Proving GroundsBanner 2025/4/3〜2025/4/30Arboris, Lord of the Deep ForestFREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week: store.wizardry.infoA new Abyss, the Guarda Fortress, has been addedOfficial wiki:https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_DaphneGeneral Information:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzTavern/Camp choices:https://rentry.org/2gngvv2nJP Fanguide:https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/Friend Code:https://rentry.org/SavoryRiskTier Template:https://tiermaker.com/create/wizardry-variants-daphne-17631789Thread Template:https://rentry.org/DaphneTemplatePrevious >>520790021
So I am in ng plus. What happens if I DONT pick the dog
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>>520928139everybody dies
>>520924946>>520925661standard units will be mostly useless before the 1st year anni arrives. Debra already got fucked over, and probably adam and yeka are next in a month or 2.
Debra is still the best Neutral Thief since she's a beastman and can recover SP on her own
>>520928451The second I saw inheritable skills, I just KNEW the game was going to be a powercreep nightmare in a year. There's no real way to balance content for both whales, old players and new players when players can have years worth of inherited skills in their teams.
>Need dupes to get stats>Need dupes to level skills to be able to use those stats>It already doesn't matter since new characters come with new formulas for dmg5 months in and all the standard dmg dealers are already powercrept
just give every single skill to maskettaman
>>520928451It's sunk cost designEarlygame is kino, but after you spent enough time game mechanics turn against the player, unless you start spendingIt's exactly the same as tag issue. Everyone knows that orichalcum tag is requiring 1024 no grade tags, but "devs will fix this, don't worry about it", and yet everyone will be surprised once this happens and you will still get 4 tags weeklyBut hey, at least avatarfags will defend this
It's fine, the second a competent (most likely KR/CN) company creates a clone this game will most likely die.
>>520928585Debra was already the designated chest exploder by being a beastman, now with drigga she's been demoted to inherit fodder.
>>520928973Obviously it's not going to still be 4 tags per week at orihalcum grade.
>>520929108>this game will most likely dieThey will make it a tone-downed crap for babies. Daphne is trash for being too hard but this is also its biggest advantage. They just need to avoid pushing non-whales too hard.
>>520928973>The more you climb the more cracks you see in the walls, and more stores to buy plasterIt's early gachas all over again huh
>>520927987>roll for male elf smurf OR>keep the literal golden haired catgirl godess please tell me you chose correctly, /WIZG/this one was really easy..
>>520929451The game does feel like a 2015 gacha, to be honest.
>>520929501I like thieves who can actually detect the traps on chests though?
NOT a good start to a thread
Savor the risk
>>520928973>orichalcum tag is requiring 1024 no grade tagsreally? just for one right, if so then it will take nearly a year, unless you mass dismiss a bunch of units which is a bad idea, since new characters being release that mog/powercrept older units, content will obviously will get balanced around the new characters too as well, so even the most invested standard unit will be unplayable/runnable in the future.
>>520929501i will make her knight and switch Lana to fighter and Barbara to thiefTHE FULL CIRCLE
>>520929501I like Debra alot but I wish Ive putted all the points into IQ instead of SPD during registration.I'm yet to encounter her having problems with chest traps many people here talk about but I can already tell she doesn't have enough Detect progression.
>>520929367After thinking for some time, i don't know if i can call this game hard, or just p2w>Oh man this doll is so hard>If only i had some skill that could cure status in a whole row and give extra resistance against said statuses.
>>520929501>debra fails chest every 5 chest>dark elf fag fails chest every 12 chesthmmm i wonder
>>520929897>I'm yet to encounter her having problems with chest traps many people here talk about but I can already tell she doesn't have enough Detect progression.Oh progress even further and you'll see why people would rather switch her to knight and use the MC as a thief chest unlocker instead.
>>520929931>>If only i had some skill that could cure status in a whole row
>>520929827>really?Sorry i liedLead Tag = 2 tagsBronze Tag = 4 tagsIron Tag = 8 tagsSteel Tag = 16 tagsCopper Tag = 32 tagsSilver Tag = 64 tagsGold Tag = 128 tagsPlatinum Tag = 256 tagsMythril Tag = 512 tagsAdamantite Tag = 1024 tagsOrichalcum Tag = 2048 tagsReminder, that you get tags back once you retire old adventurers, so it will likely be the metagame later>don't invest anything into characters unless you are whale and set with thousands of tags>just retire old characters the moment you roll for powercreep
WaitYou tellin' me I defeated one of those F.O.E.s with 3 fucking 1-shot minotaurs... for 4k EXP and no loot? What the fuck is the point then?!?!
>>520929897you can compensate with Discipline(I think), IQ Bondsmate and Detect and Disarm Bodnsmates
>>520930508Can you name those bondmates? I'm only in Abyss 2.
>>520930468Not dying is the point.
>>520930618It would've been faster to just die... now I have to go back because I don't have enough resources to continue anyways.
>>520930603Mel and mudd from abyss 1Whatever mage ghost you can get as bondmate for IQThere's also thief gloves and searcher ring that have hidden boosts to chest disarm/detect.
>>520930468FOEs are meant to kick you in the dick for fucking up and touching them, not be loot pinatas.
>>520930457>>don't invest anything into charactersyep, looks like inheriting skills and discipline is a trapMudd for detect(he is in Beg Abyss start at f1 end at f4)Mel the Thief from quest to save grandchildren B5FThere is that pirate quest in port city for evade trap also but he is more pain to farmYou can turn elf mag into bondsmate for 5 extra IQ if you level up her affection and dismiss when she is equipped with 2 5lv bondsmates at last
>>520930868>>520930603and yeah items that help>fearthersomething gloves from event>thief gloves >grave robber gloves>searcher ring for detectmore when you level them out
>>520931121Wait, the feather gloves help with chests?
What's the opposite word of FOMO? Like what's the word to describe being so much of a bitch that you don't invest in anything?
>farmed the necromance packs in abyss 3 zone 1 for fat XP>reached zone 5 and see the big searchlight mobs again>"eh I will just brute force it like I did with the necromancers">
>>520931373Get Cyclop'd
>>520931248Pretty sure they just give Bind resistAnon is probably thinking of something else
>>520931343badholding
>>520931373BONK
>>520931373Enter your regular pack of mobs to farm, enjoy "fat exp"
>>520931445bagholding*
>>520931538(This whole pack+the billion skellies the summon is only 5k xp btw)
>>520931343It's called Elixir Syndrome.>I need to save this for later because i might need more, ends up finishing the game never using it.
>>520931538Me in the back waiting for my brones
>>520931538(I am currently writing this post while huddled inside a narrow room in zone 5)at least you can run away from these retards if you are ever in trouble.running into a cyclops right now = GG for me right nowthe worst part is I forgot to bring my regular, non-undead weapons so I can't just brutefore the fight even if the cyclops ONLY has like 3-4k hp
>>520931921>at least you can run away from these retards if you are ever in troubleYou can, but if you are REALLY unlucky, you might find a regular encounter which is a Necrocore+3 poltergeists completely blocking a hallway, so you have to go back to town to reset it.
>>520931921>At least you can runNot to anyone's surprise, it's not as easy to run from the necrofuckers, and if you try and fail, enjoy>Mass confuse on the front>Mass confuse on the back>John skelly and his skele friends rape in the middle
just you wait the next legendary priest will have marein on steroids
>>520932074Necrocore and ghosts pack is my Labadios + Lacones + 30 fort tax
>>520932282It's worse if they decide to spellbind your priest/s. At that point either you're carrying scrolls or it's time to go back home.
>>520928834New units have new formulas? I've been investing in Amelia non stop. Please say sike.
>>520931421>>520931248yeafeather bronze gauntlets +0 give +4 to disarmthief gloves +5 give +5 disarm +6 evade trapgrave robber +15 give +9 disarm +10 evade trap>>520931343hoarding? saving?>JOMO, the joy of missing out
>>520932453Das a LOTTA MP
I prefer POMO, the pleasure of missing out
>>520932515Did you miss Nuclear fist man and drigga having no softcaps on their unique skills?And mega milkers having her break points on even numbers
If Lana released today as a limited character anon would probably cry about powercreep since she can heal the whole team for free
>>520932734Pay the MP toll or pay the flame
>so op she can heal my party after every battle for 10 hp out of my 550 hp
>>520933110>cry about powercreep since she can heal the whole team for freeif her lvl 1 team heals the same as her lvl 7(85 hp), people would.
>>520933110if she healed % instead of few hp then sure
>>520932857Is having even breakpoints better?
i will cry powercreep when they release a priest that can automatically resurrect one party member automatically each abyss run
I was farming a mace of tumult and then I realizedHoly shit, it's been days and I haven't seen a single one. And even if I get one, I'd need to farm 6 more to get it to a decent level.Unique items are worthless, aren't they?
>>520933482depends on the %, if it's 20-30% then I can see that happening, but lana and alice might be the only standard units that are safe from powercreep until year 2.
It's actually insane how so few people appreciated Lana's passive
>>520933509No since, 1 and 3 costs less to get than 2 and 4 But it shows that the formula is not created equal to everybody.
>>520933598That's kinda poopy all things consideredI can do that myself with my right hand
>>520933841you cant right hand yourself...
>>520933639the whole upgrading items system is such shite that its hard to think about worst one
>>520933720Lana passive was a godsend early on, but it's hard to feel the same when random mooks are hitting me for 300 a pop.
>>520933720I think most people just knew by default it's fucking busted.if you start the game with Lana your experience of this game would be insanely different from someone who didn't have her.
I saw a dude saying my frontline should have 350+ defense and 150 EVA in Guarda. How the fuck do you even get there?
>>520933841but the character YOU revive loses fort and revive window gets smaller and smaller with each death.
>>520933720her passive uninvested is a god send in early game, but later on it's useless. She needs lvl 6-7 at that point(82 hp heals)
>>520933720She will get the first upgrade to add a % to her unique skill.Skill can only be upgraded at max level.Then it rests to level one and need to be leveled up again.
>>520934065>350+ defenseUnneeded but just use ebonsteel armor with Def blessings >150+ evasionPretty doable +15 to +40 evasion worth of blessings on each piece of equipment
>>520927987>minotaur switches my front and back>use my turn to switch them>he switches them back next turni can't coordinate my team, between yhe debuffs, buffs, and heals. Especially with him fucking up my run order with stuns
I wonder how many of the issues we have could be solved by adding an infinite way to farm skill exp books.Den of knowledge, and it's library themed
>>520929635>>520929834>>520929897>>520930107
>>520934372The one from the Steel exam?
>>520934483It will never happen. I see many of the JP players talking about buying the EXP books in the store, so they'd never do anything that makes them lose money.
>>520934372rank up trials are so bullshit>can't outlevel it because you are doing it to unlock the levelcap in the first place>you can outgear it by going to the next abyss and farm the shit out of it but you will be losing XP doing it and you will have a much harder time since you have less level>the difficulty of the rank up trial becomes non-existent once you finish it for the first time because you probably wouldn't touch it in weeks unless you need to uncap another character
>>520934353Wouldn't you need some ridiculous loot to get both at the same time?
I'm waiting for the femboy character which every gacha is required to have at least one of
>All three turn-based gachas I play are updating on 9 to 10th
>three gachas
>>520934782One can dream
>>520935203not to mention one of them being daphne
This is the equivalent of 20 fights worth of loot in GuardaI miss the fishman cave already
>>520934782To be fair, is not like they wouldn't buy them anyways to skip the grind.
>>520930346I wish Priests could fulfill the front line aspect with shield and mace better than they can in Daphne. I loved running Fig, Sam, Pri in front row in wiz 1
>>520935502I only gotten 2 sabers from 300-500 junk and both of it was * white....
>>520935865What level are you?
>>520935502farm proving grounds
>>520935865Meanwhile I'm fucking swimming in Sabers both good and bad with not a single Iarumas in 80 pulls lmao. Still saving them for a cute Samurai girl to pair up with Rinne on dispatch duty.
>>520935939lvl 30 currently lead rank, was farming the event instead of progressing the story for the time being.
>>520935984The only fighter I have is my MC
>>520934787>but you will be losing XPWhat?
>>520936079Yep, that's what I thought. At higher levels the drop chance goes from 0.3/0.5% to 2.5/3%.
>https://x.com/straycat8914/status/1909447536760537414HOLY SOVLFVLL party....
>>520934614yes, and some attempts the fairy will aoe back to back , ending the encounter in 4 turns. other times she does nothing and dies
>>520936079That's the reason, sabers drop like candy on the max scaling.They are still shit 1* whites tho
ITEM SELLING CAMPAIGN WHEN?!?! I'M TIRED OF BEING POOR
>>520936314What's your team composition?
Man, 1H maces feel terrible. They don't even have the Strength Based + trait. What are they even used for?
>>520937756Bonk priests
>>520934787You only lose EXP if the character has stocked enough to hit the current max level cap.
>>520934951Which is why I said such high defense wasn't needed Ebonsteel tier drops are pretty crappy right now so you'll have better luck reaching that threshold with Iron or Steel armor
>>520934969Let me guess HSR and GFL2?
>>520936701(Me), Lana, GerardAdam, Yeka, Debra
Why is there no "Ice" element?>>520938010Hehe
>they fixed MageMC and now we have actual casting animations with the AoE spellNow this is ebin
>>520938108Who's your priest, Yeka or Adam? Anyways, try equipping spears on anyone you can so you don't have to constantly shuffle characters, only do it if it's your mage and there's danger of them being 1-shot. BATILGREF the minotaur so that it won't have a billion turns and pray.
>>520937756Frontline priests, but that is already niche, and the mace + shield needs to have good lines to make up for itEven then it’s only for auto, or if said priest is out of mana
>pass for the events barely gives anything good outside of crystalsany other fucking game would give you a % bonus on the amount of event currency you will get at the very fucking least.
>>520938425>amount of event currency you will get at the very fucking least.But that would be p2w anon, we can't do that
>>520937797>>520938379But if you have a decent bonk priest, wouldn't a 2H mace be better? They get twice as much STR scaling and you can easily swap to a 2H staff without having to make sure you have another free slot in your inventory.
>>520938583
>>520938587You need the stats from a shield, specially when you are on the frontline
>>520938587Action speed penalty for 2H maces is way too much. If you have a priest you can try it but I prefer bonking with 1H maces for stun or 2H staff for auto
>>520938110Good to know that I'm not only one in this situation.
>>520939030>>520938110gachaniggers get out!!!!!its blober general!!!
>>520939030Turned Based genre is became so alive after Pathfinder Wrath. Always something to play!
After using the dagger of corrosion for a few days, i'm starting to think that shit doesn't work at all
I ranked up after a while, my units jumped from 20 to 27, my MC jumped from 20 to 23. Does he get an exp penalty for dying or something?
>>520939250Too late, i'm already in your dungeon walls.
>>520939349it never trigger? or the debuff is too small to be visible?>>520939513did you switch to 2nd profession or used exp books to level up?
>>520939605Literally never triggered, after hundreds upon hundreds of hits, into all sorts of enemies
Anons have any thoughs on another mobile dungeon crawler, Buriedbornes?
>>520939589
>>520939827it's fun but I havent played it in months
I give up on maintaining Debra as a thief. Time to become a kn*ght, stupid low IQ bitch.
>>520939827It’s fun at the beginning, when you don’t have much to work with.Once I hit soulstone farming and having legendary passives I could equip at the start of each run, the challenge went away
>>520940301ee waht?
So if Masketta is a ghul, how come he doesn't take 1/2 damage from normal weapons?
I can't believe there's another horseshit luck based boss even after the doll, holy fuck
>>520940550too alive to be a real ghultoo dead to be a real boyworst of both worlds
>>520940851>even after the dollwho?
>>520941032The critical poison gamblers
Debra you SUCKYou SUCK, Debra
Nobody knows that milana poison at lvl 7 is critical poison
>>520941603Wow, does it do 20 damage instead of 10?
>>520941585She doesn't suck. She fails and destroys all she was meant to save!
>>52094180325
>pirate priestesses can still give you the curse of the sea god because it's not a spell when silenced with montinoCurse you all, you fat redhaired wenches!
>>520941603What do you mean? He ability when shes lvl 7 or when you inherit her 7 times?
How many hours until maintenance?
>>520942214A little under 36 hours.
just finiched adam homophobia questline, why is he flirting with me now ?
Nothing to do until I can amass enough ungraded tags to turn them into lead tags for my lead adventurers to become bronze grade adventurers. Good god, that system unironically sucks.
>>520942113ability 7, about 30 inherits give or take
>>520942397that happens with every character eventually.redbeard is funny.goes from >DON'T TOUCH MEto>OH IT'S YOU!i cackled when i died and he said something to the effect of>WHY DO THE GODS KEEP TAKING FROM ME!?
>>520942397he won't be so flirty with you after seeing what's underneath that mask
Personally, I think Marianne is the best priest.Jew chan my beloved!
Is it a pipedream to take them both at lv20 ?
>No one here has cleared the highest difficulty proven grounds legit yetSo it's even harder than the dragon?
>>520943921Multiple people did though. Why do you keep spamming this retard? It's much easier than the dragon because he operates on a flow chart. Literally just burst around 2k damage once his Kaltu is down and he dies.
>>520943921I've killed it 100 times and I'm convinced they nerfed it to drop less junk, just like they nerfed collab B3F after the first day
>just do 2k damage with 3 characters
>the dragon is harder than the proving grounds boss
>>520944505FPS clears it easily, you should knownif you play the game.
>>520943879Gear is going to make more of a difference than levels, so it's probably doable, especially if you have event gear like the Dragon Slayers.
>>520943921i can't even take the mobs, lvl 50 max is such a brick
>>520944939Even with multiple Dragon Slayers I think the biggest problem remains double AoEs before most of your party can even act without going crazy farming gear for additional ASPD and tons of MDEF.
>>520928451this nigga actually thinks Adam was ever good lmao
Do Yeka, Adam, and Alice retain their unique nukes when class changed?Finally got a Yeka priest book, but I don’t want to use it until I swap Asha back to mage if she doesn’t retain it.
>>520940550Reversal magic has nothing to do with necromancySkelly is probably closer to a warped one than anything
Are we getting a new event/rerun in 2 days?
>>520943879It's possible but you are in for hell
>>520946894They can use secret arts after changing class, but can't use the regular la spells.
Is he vegan?
>>520947187We’re getting a permanent event.What that actually means, nobody knows.
>>520943879doable but rough as fuck and you have to get lucky.
>>520947240Yeah, the secret art is the one I meant.Thanks.
>>520943879>100+ damage poison breath x 2>level 20>people shilling dragon slayer when it have -4 action speed and the enta outspeed you at 20Yeah, about that…
>>520944296>Just do 2k damage a turn bro
>>520947359How strange
why is doomsissy having a melty today?
I really did not want him
>>520947904classic desire sensor at work
What is that root that you get at the end of Cazula Root Delivery for?
>>520948030requisite for perfect abyss 1
>>520948030viagra for the king
>>520947715>attached a literal step by step guide using openings and a total of 4 (four) (四) FPS>AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEE this is impossible!
>>520947904>Luck boonedInsult to injury
>>520947715Yeah retard. FPS on the vampire is 800 on the low side, you have 3 fighters, opening bonus is another 1k. The only remotely challenging part is having everyone on the same ASPD
>>520948229I dont read moonrunes
I finally reached the Oar Collector fight at the warehouse district and it's kicking my ass. I'm lv40 and the fact I was using 2 wizards to clear the floor is now backfiring at me.Any advice is welcome.
I don't remember but you only need to save the king and the general in the beginning abyss right? If elmon dies what happens?
>>520948561Buy gravel/rockfall scrolls for them and keep casting
>>520948561Bring lots of potions and attack scrolls on your casters to make up for the fact that they become functionally useless otherwise once the water rises back up.
How good is alice as a mage? I have a spare alice I and her handbook is in the shop right now. I could have one mage and one priest alice
>>520948731Every single dangerous enemy in Abyss 3 will 1-tap her.
>>520948673>>520948726Goddamit, I didn't want to backtrack through this hellish floor, but it is what it is...
>>520948393I only get 650 average for FPS. 800 on the low side? Post your party with stats and equips.
>>520948942>he didn’t go to the next floor and activated the harken there for a story checkpointBwo…
>>520948731Name 5 important fire type enemies you would have her cast water spells at.And name 1 other unit that can cast buffs that last 2 extra turns after eating only 2 dupes of themselves.
I hate to sound like that guy but if you think abyss 2 abyss 3 would make you quit the game.
>>520949391How do you get to the next floor without beating the boss that’s blocking the way to the next floor gwo…
>rando undead knight hits me for 300 on a character with several +10 piecesthey reaaally want you to farm out the anti-undead gear huh
>>520949583Sorry I didn’t read fully.You did purify the dragon statue above the room for three turns of dry environment, right?Once the water happens, i just made my priest and mage go on potion duty
>>520949892No the director says he wants the game to always be scaled to party members dying in 2 hits which is why the dragon and was such a nightmare. You basically have to overlevel and overgear every encounter if you don't want to constantly be dropping like flies. In the proving grounds my WLana has full +15 ebonsteel heavy armor and she is still getting hit for 400 hp lol
>>520949892and then take more dmg because its bugged lmao
>Harmless bug that lets players skip tedious encounters patched in a day>Gamebreaking bug that makes you take MORE damage when equipping resist gear isn't patched over a week later
>>520950050Yeah. I ended up not backing out and using whatever I had on my inventory at the moment. Had a sleep scroll anda couple of gravel ones to shift around for the mages, so I casted as much as I could before resorting to scrolls, slept the motherfucker and then smacked it with my last a Heavy Attack. I'm glad I still had enough sp to finish the fight, I'd prefer to drag my balls through broken glass before doing this floor twice in a row.
>>520949892I only bothered with anti-undead slop super early on to squeeze out a tiny bit of extra damage against the first exam boss. In Abyss 3, I just brute forced them all and dodged their attacks by having 140+ Eva on my frontline units.
>>520950487>Gamebreaking bug (...) isn't patched over a week laterbro did you already forget about the abyss 2 lockout bug
>>520949414so her dupes are best fed to herself?
>>520951374i just woke up and read this as breastfeed herself
Are there any spells/debuffs that work particularly well against helmut? I havent really tried much, any point in spellbinding him?
>>520951640You think that's bad? I read it the same way twice and I've been up for a while lmao
>>520948561your frontline equipped with +10 soil weapons gwo?
>>520948942its actually not bad and the oarkeeper is a bitch. just blind him. dont fight any fish*iggers in the water just bait them out. flee from fights u dont need to do, conserve your resources. or alternatively just beat as much as possible towards the boss then backtrack for the well.idunno i had 0 trouble with abyss 2 at 30, and no trouble until doll in guarda at 40
>>520947904give him to him, I want him!
Do mobs respawn on a floor or is there a pre-determined amount?
>>520952795theres a predetermined amount but if your fucking dirty someone will just spawn out of nowhere
>>520952064It wasn't hard to do the floor, it was tedious. Endless backtracking to map the whole place and such a high number of popcorn fights with no way to avoid most of them since it's all on corridors that little by little consumed my resources... It was tiring, not hard.
>>520949892bro your dobule knight double cleric party?
>>520952602Only if you give me big boobie chocolate elf (female)
>>520950487It was LITERALLY making them lose money, bro
>>520950487first gacha?
How easy is it to reset points and lanterns in the well of mind? Do I have to be super careful what I use them on? Just beat helmut in ng+ and got a vit and luc lantern
>>520954675you get a free reset every 24 hours
>>520954835Are the multiple places to spend this luc lantern on? And if so whats the best one? Left of fighter?
>>520955014Nope the luck lantern spots are one and done and someone claimed some are randomized on top of that
>>520955014we get many luck lanterns
Best element to swap to after NG+ beginning abyss?
>>520955602i mean earth if u want an easier time in abyss 2. but neutral aint so bad either
>>520955692>>520955602also if you get an earth sword+being earth yourself you will do 60% more damage. 30% for dirt wep against water enemies+30% elemental advantage bonus.the 30% elemental dmg bonus wont activate unless your doing earth damage such as an earth spell or earth wep so, yea
I want BONESGive me your BONES
>>520955884Is there a convenient place to get an earth weapon or just pure RNG? The wind sword is still the only elemental weapon I have
>>520956032den of earth. you unlocked it after you did abyss1. getting one is somewhat rare, but you need a bunch of iron ore anyway so you will be in there a lot
>>520956032It was a real pain in the ass to get even 1 earth sword from the Den of Earth junkBut it helps a lot against the enemies you'll face and even the boss
>>520951374Only until lvl 3 of her inherit, then spread the slut around for other people with debuffs/buffs
20h dispatch unlocked by opening the greater harken in guarda
>>520950098Where did he specifically say that
one of my party members died during the Octanarus fight, but Octanarus was defeated. does that invalidate the trust icon unlock?right now, they don't have an icon, but I’m not sure if that’s because their trust is too low or if the unlock was invalidated.
>>520956416>no k***htsBros...
>>520956416>no knightsis /wizg/ the client?
>>520956416And how do you do that? I guess part of the true ending storyline or 0 corrosion? I've gotten the good ending, but honestly no clue for the true one, the fight also seems way too hard for me at little corrosion
>>520956735Can't you just go to where the greater harken is after beating the gatekeeper?
>>520956735I doubt it's at 0 corrosion, the boss has like 30k HP, hits for 800, and still smacks even 250 EVA adventurers
>check old interview>question about events and Fordraig>Mr. Kanayama: Yes. I think Daphne is too easy for old players. Of course, we intend to make sure that we can make a clear distinction so that new players are not confused. However, rather than choosing the difficulty level, we would like to make it a little more elaborateIt really foreshadowed auto difficulty, huh...Also, be prepped for>Kanayama: We plan to continue some kind of event every month. It would be painful for players if they ran out of things to play, and they are also necessary to fill in the gaps in the main story. It's still just an idea, but we would like to do challenges with restrictions on the party, or something like a raid where all players challenge the same boss.
>>520958415>like a raid where all players challenge the same boss>he wants to make the ur dragonI have a really bad feeling about this
>>520958779And restriction to the party was the fighter proving grounds event we have right now
What level do you have to be to complete the fighter event? Does it scale? Can it be done at 40?
>>520958779UR Dragon is leecherkino though, just leave it to the JP whales
>>520958779Eh, raid events in gacha tend to be easy. You just scrape the minimum and let whales worry about hitting the serverwide milestones.
>>520959103It will be damage leaderboard rewardNot in top-100, can't clear out shopSorry bwo but swipe next time>>520958415>It would be painful for players if they ran out of things to playThe only reason why events are grindy
>>520958859they could actually make the restriction thing cool if they encouraged you to play to the classes strengths>thief party just has to dodge and delay attacks>knights have to cover each otherproblem is it would probably just end up becoming mimic 2.0
>>520958926It's difficulty-based. You can choose between Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
>>520959271i mean fighters are all about big dick damage. and fighting to the death with ramping enemies fits that
>>520958926>to completeIf you want all 600 points you have to clear Advanced 5 times which is gonna require at least two Fighters with Full Power StrikeI haven't done Beginner or Intermediate so I can't speak to how doable those are or the amount of points you get
>>520958926It doesn't scale, at 40 the only thing you can maybe do is the beginner oneYou definitely need Full Power Strike (lvl 54) for the hardest one, probably for the middle one too
>>520959216That's not Ur Dragon then retard, that's just typical gacha leaderboard raidslop which has been done 10000 timesThough in such cases 90% of the rewards are easily attainable by the plebs
>>520958415>Yes. I think Daphne is too easy for old players.>It would be painful for players if they ran out of things to playnot this fucking mentality againI get it that they need to make something that challenges even the poopsocking whales but you can make content like that without screwing over the casuals
this stupid fucking cat
>>520959556>typical gacha leaderboard raidslop which has been done 10000 timesWhere do you think you are?
I hope drecom makes events specifically to screw over casuals from here on out
guess it's time to start training a 60 mage, cleric, knight, thief for the future X trial
I forgot my thief at home but Adam is also surprisingly good at spotting and disabling trapsI feel like I should just slap a thief on him
>>520959562Someone should ask this guy what his favorite Wizardry is
>>520959943Just keep some at 20 and the 60 xp cap, otherwise you're potentially wasting a lot of tags, if the events never materialize, the rules change, or you get Limiteds of that class
Which bondmates are actually worth farming before moving onto abyss 2
>>520959886I'll take level down mobs at this point to fuck over dispatch levelers in particular. The seethe will be legendary
>>520960006I use Adam in Guarda, just git gud at the minigame and put Grave Robber's gloves + Eyeglass + Bondmates on him and its fine
>>520960006That's just mages in general, no need to try so hard to salvage your Adambrick
https://x.com/4GamerNews/status/1897542714566303874 I hope this man stays based
>>520960392He can't lost fortitude to chests if he has already lost it all to Mazelos, think anon, think!
>>520960392Your waifu is a blank slate without soul
>Kanayama: Actually, we were planning something like an arena where you could PvP, but we've stopped it for now. After all, I feel like players don't want that. We are preparing a guild-like system, but I think people don't want to be tied down too much.Reminder that director wanted to force mandatory pvp, but thanks to buggy launch we avoided this fate
>>520960604>*stares at you neutrally*
>>520956604bump
>>520956735Good ending or better, then just go through the front door to reach it the fastest.
>>520960649>After all, I feel like players don't want thatThis asshole is seriously pretending he cares about what players don't want the absolute gall
>>520961026At least he's right here. I fucking hate PVP in most games. Usually because it's done awfully.
*stares at you religiously*
>>520960929Huh good to knowWhat do you need to do knowledge wise to get the true ending? And what's the reward for it?
*stares at you retardedly*
just copy something like Blue Archive where you set your team and then people can attack it to get scores to go up or down a leaderboardit's lazy but it's something.
>>520950487>Kanayama: Basically, the policy is that all rewards are either obtained by playing hard or by using precious stones to save time.
It's time
>>520961463Some people suffer absolute ego death when gacha pvp is introduced, I've always found it to be a good whalebait mode that's easy for informed f2ps to loot with minimal effort
>>520961973I like the GFL2 system, there's the (pvp) and the whale pvp.
>game difficulty complaints>copy chink/gook game design>make everything attainable by casualsReally makes you wonder who are behind these posts
>devs add a mode where you design dungeons and have other players go through them Good idea or abysmal idea
>revived my debra with 20 fortitude without knowing she could have permanently diedHOLY FUCK
>>520961973>I've always found it to be a good whalebait mode that's easy for informed f2ps to loot with minimal efforteh I agree with your post but I really wouldn't say it's a whalebait mode.I played a lot of games with auto-PVP systems like that and most of the time the RNG will just fuck you over even if you whaled to hell and back.
>>520961964Bwi nobody cares that you're named Kevin
>>520962276Did you try to revive someone from ashes with 20 fort?
>>520962175>everyone just makes a single width corridor with the worst mobs and traps available
>>520962175ab-fucking-ysmal considering the game can barely handle itself.custom dungeons will either be a slog to do because there's not a lot that you can customize to be unique or entertaining and at worst it will be a fucking bugfest
>>520962175critical poison hallway with 2x vampire FOE on the sides
>>520962276That's not quite how it worksYou should become informed however to avoid mistakes or unwarranted fears. The permadeath system is really a nothingburger.>Where am I? The last thing I remember was...Oops!
>another 11 pulls>no dark elffml
>>520961281Talk to the headless skele on 4F(might have to wheel back earlier to get him to show up) to start it.https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/906393#outline__%E3%82%B0%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%80%E5%9F%8E%E5%A1%9E%E3%81%AE%E9%99%B0%E8%AC%80%E3%82%92%E6%9A%B4%E3%81%8F%E6%89%8B%E9%A0%86%EF%BC%884%E5%91%A8%E7%9B%AE%EF%BC%89
>>520962434>can put restrictions on entering the dungeon>beastfolk only>dungeon is just a wide open space filled with chests>more kills than all the FOEs combined
>>520962175Mighty Loot for Epic Quest did that 15 years ago and it was fun at first but then everyone started to tryhard, both players and dungeonmakers, and then devs added obviously p2w to it so game just diedAs always, players optimize fun out of the game
>>520962175>make a massive hour-long teleporter dungeon>get to the end, there's nothing>the solution all along was simply going back out through the first one
>>520962175Remember when Mario did this and people came up with the hardest levels they could come up with
>>520962979At least they had to complete it themselves first (unless there were hacks, which there probably were)
He's so adventuresexual
>>520963108But enough about me.
I know the perfect way to handle custom dungeons.>every week everyone gets a bunch of random dungeon pieces to make their own dungeon with>there's a set number of traps, mobs, walls that you can put down and your dungeon has to have an accessible end goal >the catch is everything you get is randomized so you can't make something like >>520962434>>520962887, not that this game can handle something like the latter in the first place
>>520963108forgot my image
>>520963271Sure it can, it's just B6F with smaller rooms, more TPs and variable destinations on the teleporters from switches and statue puzzles. They could already make something worse than the Strange Journey teleporter floor if they wanted to. Seriously what are they waiting for?
>>520962851Only played a bit after release but I liked the replay feature where you could watch retards getting stuck in your dungeon.
>>520962365on the internet nobody knows i'm namedChuck
>>520962753Bruh I hope you aren't just yoloing your gems as you get them. This isn't a gacha where you pull without guarantee.
>>520958415holy /wizg/, we will finally die together
>>520963706tbf their teleportation puzzles are quite fucking mild compared to the other dungeon crawlers out there.B6F is like 1/3rd 1/4th of SJ in terms of complexity.their switches mechanic is fucked though but I don't think that's by-design
>>520962175All dungeons will be the most cancerous unfun shit to make the invader forfeit out of frustration. If there are constraints to make all dungeons somewhat playable you'll lose the fun part of making a creative design. It sounds fun, but it'll never work - players will optimize the fun out of the system instantly.
>luck boon KirihaShould I go full retard and dump all bonus points into luck as well?
>>520962175>get stuck in a random drop chest in single grid width corridor>unable to use Forced Recovery because you need to clear the custom dungeon before being allowed to access the main menu>closing the game does not reset the current server position check so you end up stuck in the same chest on startup>Hooks of Harken are disabled in custom dungeons>enemies still wander the corridor and the game crashes when they come into contact with the player
>>520964325Doesn't seem very wise since ninjas don't have any Luck dependent skills.
>>520964325I think you want to Str pump him no matter what boon you have
>>520964649oh, that's boring I thought at least the insta kill would be luck based.
>Arena fight 1>The guy kills you with 100% probability>Have to wait until tomorrow to resurrect dead dorks to avoid ashification risks
>>520946472More like wasn’t expecting debra to get powercrept so soon, especially way before adam
Jesus christ what a clusterfuck of a fight was this out of 8 HS i did with the MC i missed 6, it was the nuclear fist man and DP scrolls show.Now i'll have to pay the 30k toll to the church.
>>520965431>tries to shamefully zerg his opponent in a formal matchJust be a gentleman and 1v1 your foe until it is revealed they're cheating
>>520965431You should develop a sense of impending doom and drop your party accordingly. There's no penalty when dying solo anyway so you can simply accept death.
>>520965615Did u rike
>>520965431I don't get why they put guaranteed-losses in a game where permadeath is a possibility, there's also three fucking guaranteed losses in total if you are going in blind toolike at least have the courtesy to rez everyone in your party for free, with no mentality loss free of charge when you die the first time.
>>520965431shoulda listened to the other gob
>>520965431The arena is full of retarded bullshit, you're best off going into it solo the first time every round, or looking up a guide to see which fights require you to die to scout out your opponent
>>520965756"Enjoy the absurdity" motto
>>520965741I rove it, and now the reward for my efforts
>>520965581Half of Debra's "power" has always been vocal retards who don't realize other thieves can also sneak attack and also never run out of SPLike Adam she's the worst adventurer to actually have her unique passive and if she classchanges it will never trigger againHilarious that its her IQ that finally did her undeserved reputation in and that other beastfolk share this weaknessBasically you're a giga retard, shut the fuck up
>>520965904That was 1/11th of the price three weeks ago... inflation truly is scary...
>>520965904>"Congratulations, give us money!"Savor it.
>>520965904why can't they make these deals more appealinglike even as someone who whales without a second though shit like this still makes me go "who the fuck will buy this"
>>520966128Because if they give you stuff for a good price you are LITERALLY stealing from them
>>520966128Somehow 50 people buying a 3.69 pack is worse than 2 people buying a 44.99 pack...
>>520966128>one-time FOMO deals>the deals suckIt really is a head scratcher.
>>520966128Think of the tarrifs bwo, they need every bit of money
>>520965431Scout ahead solo next time. I'm starting to think that the average poster in /wizg/ has never played video games made before Skyrim.
>>520966128I think its fairly clear at this point that the devs are mentally ill sadists and making money is sort of an incidental side effect of their antics that they don't think very hard aboutIf they actually wanted to make money they would have sold maskless Debra as a merge altRemember they're being subsidized by the JP govt as a sort of national cultural project
Where do I turn off this game locking a bunch of shitass bronze gear randomly
Is any heavy gear ever good on ANYONE?
>>520967231>he doesn't scout ahead solo in Skyrim
>>520950487they are asking for another firebombing
>>520950487nigga, i was bricked for month and no compensation
>>520967284Settings -> Auto-Lock Equipment It still won't work properly, it often locks 2* Bronze Greens regardless of me setting it for 3* Blues and above only.
>>520956604yea
>>520967879>cant filter out all bronze specificallyOk so I will just not lock anything ever and do it all by hand, this is useless
>>520959562you can vote with your wallet bro
>>520965714Is this true? I am always worried about losing request progress or something for accepting death
>>520968501arena matches are special, they don't work the same way as normal accept death
>>520961026he is right, fuck pvp
So since everyone is saying defense is a meme, what should I be going for on my fighter MC/frontliners?Just aspd, atk, surety, evasion accuracy? Whats higher prio?
>>520968496>Vote with you wallet>Meanwhile some nip salaryman: (sigh) "Shikata ga nai" *swipes harder*
>>520968496>Vote with your wallet>Game is funded by the governmentThat's quite the pickle
>AGOOOORAAAAAaaaaaaaaa....
>>520969334>>520969467Still the best...
>>520967836Damn, is your PP OK?
Im done with NG+Whats up with the hole?
>>520966128yeah, i do not get itthey would do make more money from all these small payers who do not mind spending 3$ here or 5$ there with that, instead I see this shit and go big NOPE, like we only know about it because some anon check JEWeler by accident because nobody is checking these shitpacks
>>520961973It only really worked in something like Iron Saga which is PvP focused from the start and has a scaling point system that gives daily rewards based on your rank. Daphne is far too jewish to make PvP worth it at all.I actually managed to get top 1 in IS multiple times as a full f2p
>>520966128Bro, this case has been cracked long ago. F2P gets the privilege of playing for free, not of winning for free.
>>520969097>>520969254yeah, that is the jokehow the fuck you even ''vote with your wallet'' in gacha?outside of hiring hitmen or that funny trucks riding around in nip cities with loudspeakers talking shit about them
>>520969980If you had chosen the chest on the right, the hole would be on the other side, with the bone from the chest going in the hole with it. Congratulations, you won the gacha. Don't forget which one the bone is in when it respawns in 3-4 weeks
>>520970573I wish she wore that instead of the ugly green
>>520970782Because of reusing models, they had to implement power rangers colors of the element system, please understand
>>520970492The issue is chinkslop minnows are FAR better off than Wiz minnows. They are basically shitting and throwing corpses in the minnow section, it's spiritually India up in that bitch. So they're missing that whole area of potential revenue.
>>520968330Correct, the devs don't play the game
Wait, isn't Macaldia just a better Caldia? It even costs less MP
>>520970492This chart is outdated as fuck though. The thing is, Whales will whale regardless. You can make more money by having options for light to mid-range spenders and whales will still be pulling for D9 & Lv7 skills. Who are Whales going to flex on when everybody else eventually gets bored and move on because they spent the tiny drip feed of gems on a couple banners and now they don't get any new units to play with for half a year?
>>520961412He's so cute
been searching for Green Jelly forever now, only met him once
>>520971281Yes. Shh don't tell the slurpers who bug report everything.
>>520961964>IarumasYou didn't beat the doll
>>520971616I believe he's capped at level 1
>>520971540>With no krill to eat and no dolphins to show off, whales will move to somewhere else.This is it, catering specifically to whales is what killed nip gachas in the first place
>>520971916I didnt get his bond the first time I met him, gave him random crap
>>520971281>>520971645I can't believe I missed this for so long. Anyways I've reported it now. Should be fixed soon.
>>520972165based lawchad
Did anyone get the banner ring? How effective is it for detect?
>>520971746Not only beaten, beaten with fisting only
>>520972704>banner ringwhich one?>
>>520972165
What's the best mage staff currently available?
>>520973136he works so hard to bring us bones
Elmon is such a stupid bitch that she still dies on a perfect run unless you also save the Auxiliary unit.
>>520973205*unzips*
>>520973501One has to wonder how she even made it this far, considering her incompetence. A trait she shares with the developers of this game.
>>520973836Aren't 1 handed staves terrible?
>>520973863I wager she mostly stayed out of supernatural abyss dungeons
>>520974226She's an elf and supposedly SUPER old, I think she's just an idiot.
>>520974372well she is a bit of a goober but her track record of not being dead until she went into the knight-slaying dungeon of TKD speaks for itself
>>520974489I mean somehow the knights have been sealing the abyss with no problems for 500 years, this abyss must have something different to it.
>>520974002*rezips*
>>520974702Experts say that due to softcaps one handed staves are optimal
>>520974659The entire abyss sealing thing is vague but despite Yekat going into the abyss to perform the first sealing, the impression I got was that the king was tricked into entering the abyss this and it doesn't seem like that's normalThe abyss is threatening because it spills out into the land above iirc
All that softcap shit and equipment actually dealing more damage instead of preventing it and obtuse effects really showcases how utterly buggy and shitty the technical aspects of this game is.
>>520974861Yeah the Japanese would say that wouldn't they?
>>520974861these experts also have multiple small shields with quadruple mag stats right
>>520974861...for priests, healingNot mages nuking
>>520975167Drecom wouldn't get away with half their bullshit if there was any competition. They can't go 2 patches without breaking something, they are not a serious company.
>>520975046>TrickedHe went in on the correct 100 year timeframe, with his full knight party, it seemed to me like a planned decision, and they did mention that only the royal family could do it, but this time he had catastrophic losses all the way thruAnd aren't all GWO the same every time? They should have been expecting the trap master GWO to be filling the entire thing with traps
>>520975167Oh no, softcaps aren't an oversight or a bug. They're there to make people roll, and make whales roll even more.
>>520975260>>520975389>>520975506These posts have been fact checked to be fake news
>>520975739They have records on Helmut, so they should know how he operates. Maybe the GWOs have been sandbagging the past few centuries to get the Royal family's guard down lol.
>>520975739Well, I think the game talks about a lot of those things but I'll leave it to you to review it
Why do random skellies in the beginning abyss sometimes hit for 6k
>>520976325I think the wait and see thing might be a charge up
>>520976286>The king and most of his knights have been lost>Who's fault is this>Surely it ain't the nobles fault, uh, it was this witch who did it, don't question it just chop her
>>520972921Lord of the Deep Forest's Ring
>>520976743>The king died because the greater warped one snapped his neck when slamming him onto the rescue party>Who's fault is this>Surely it ain't the nobles fault, uh, it was this masked adventurer and the blacksmith who did it, don't question it just chop them
>>520976743It's no wonder the princess turned out the way she did
>>520976286I'm sure we'll have to save her sometime in the future
>>520976325Instakill skill
>>520977702>Adding another layer of reversal time shenanigans to the starting regionI'm going to let you guys playtest that for at least 2 weeks
>>520977986>Manually kill every GWO in the continent>Somehow that doesn't work and the warlock still rapes the world>The solution was just to save the first random lady they executed at the start of the game.
>have to timetravel so that you can save the witch, the guy whom the mask originally belongs, the king before he gets braindamage from being Helmut's sex slave and more>the teleporter circle that only works in the beginning and leads to the grand legion is finally relevant
>Named adventurers at 0 fortitude: "KILL ME I HATE MY LIFE AAAAAAAA">Nameless adventurers at 0 fortitude: :)
Lord of the Deep Dark Fantasy
>Wonder why I just LOVE Berkanan's voice so much>Why is it so similar to something I already heard>Its so soothing and calming as if it belongs to someone important>Do a research>
>>520978738Nameless adventurers already implicitly hate their lives, they just can't verbalize it
Don't forget your weekly super generous 50 gems from the webstore bros
>>520979280Thank you drecom, i will savor the 1/4th of a bone
Any chance they refresh the fighter event store or add new missions with more tokens before it ends?
>>520979280I can't wait to get a fourth of an elf-pri
>>5209796180 chance.
>>520979618If they didn't mention it in the patch notes, then I'm afraid it's pure cope.
last day for lightshot codex and i'm 25 pixies or insects short of capping. Where can i knock that out?
any settings/tweaks to make the game look better on steam?
>>520980068Den of earth
>>520979830>>520979925That's good then. Didnt want to spend before knowing for sure. Does it make sense to grab WotW, the ring, and 3 books of Heavy Attack?
So which of the three quests after tutorial town do I pick? Can I just cursed wheel and pick another one?
Kinda annoying how they put the free bones at 7 and 14 days into the banner's, special daily supplies. I'm always paranoid the final free bone is going to be the banner character and wasting my gems if I pull before that point.
>>520980570The ring isn't worth 300 at all, grab more books
>>520980674The book one is the best. Yes, you can.
>>520980570Can't help you with that, i just grabbed the lana book.If i had the option i would grab the wotw book for my ninja and the rest into heavy attacks.
Im not going to go for the ring. It looks really cool though. Which books should I prioritize? I know alot of people say Way of the Warrior is good and FPS is bad.
>>520981502Way of the Warrior is a 10% melee damage increase, 15% at level 2 and so on, which is hugeFPS is bad because it can't be used by non-fightersAll the passive books are decent, but they're basically just 1 dupe.
>>520965128>>520964649Just inherit counter and follow up attack gwo. Ninjas are made for it.
Best use for one singular debra dupe?
>>520981502HS for BerkaWay of Warrior for IarumasAnd exactly 250 to buy a class change for someone else.Or you can go for Bonus attacks if you put points into Luck instead of SPD during character register.
If you put Counterattack on Ninjas can it Critical?
>>520981502Well if that chart at the bottom of last thread is accurate then grabbing Heavy Attack books might be pretty decent. Yes you can get it from eating Gandolfos over time, but maybe you want to level Heavy Attack on more characters in the future and Lv 3 at least makes the damage not worse than basic attacking at higher Attack Power.
>>520981991Has your masked man eaten a Debra yet?
>>520981991MC fodder
>>520981949>Not waiting to see if a ninja gets a Fighter reclass first so you can have Lv 7 Counterattack/Pursuit instead of getting gimped being stuck at Lv 6Ngmi
>>520982159Yeah
>>520982159It can crit, and it can follow up, which also can crit
>Fighter event is just the Make Ninjas Flip Out Even More event
>>520982796Yes, anything for my autistic murderwife.
I demand a dark elf fighter wife
>>520983631This but with Dark Knight/Samurai as secondary class.
>>520983631Haven't you been cucked enough already?
Who is going to be our legendary fairy
Banner Review from a Fishmen!Astral Break inherited is FPS level, 20SP Cost.Meteor Bow has +6 SP trait.Armor is probably trash.Ring has Detect and Trap evade and might be decent.4/10 banner for weapon/skills.Aboris is Debra but can open chests.+Skill is powerful>Thief DPS>No class change6/10 for featured unit.
I asked about the princess instead of telling her the request am I screwed
>>520984119Oberon
>>520983631I will settle for nothing less than tomboy thunder human mage.
How much HP does the fighter proving grounds beginner elk boss have
>>520984396Laughing at the waifu fags
>>520984469More than 4000. Don't bother doing the event if you're not at least level 50.
>but can open chestsJust level Milana
When are we getting an adventurer with some Prier tier thunder thighs? In fact fuck it just gimme Prier.
>>520984346Don't worry about it now
>>520984613I have a milana for opening chests, but i wouldn't mind if she could tzalik too.
>>520983631Every "non-Big Titty Dark Elf" Elf banner that passes narrows the pool of classes from which the fabled BTDE banner can draw from.Unless they hit every class first, then it's back to square oneThere will not be a BTDE NinjaThere will not be a BTDE Thief
>>520984157>Aboris is Debra but can open chests.How does this make sense, exactly
>>520985550You are monkey pawing yourself into a BTDE Knigger, you know
>>520985550Everyone talks about the big titty dark elfBut there is another option.
>>520985761>First older knight dark elf character femaleEvil, of course
>>520985601Debralet confirmed. She is too low IQ and explodes chests 80% of the time.
oooooooOOOOOOO
>>520986014This isn't exclusive to Debra, or even close
>>520986045Full Alters suck, my condolences for losing an actually usable 4* stone
>>520984597damn I was hoping to get lana fighter book
>>520984407
>>520986714Sexy Nemissa is definitely best Nemissa.
>>520985761I've already accepted my fate.
>>520986714
>>520986714SMT collab when?
>>520968839Every time I see Elise I heard thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDLRiyt6pCc
>>520987069Poking the bits of her thigh pouring out of her leggings with my dick.
>>520987104I'll pass if they're just going to shill Demi-Fiend for the Nth time. The Samurai connection is right there.
>>520988375please drecom add monkey so i can see her getting smashed by the minotaur...
>>520988375What about the pixie/fairy connection?
what the fuck is alice saying about a prolonged torture session post battle? what is wrong with her
>>520987632Man, haven't thought about Gauntlet in ages. Used to alway pick Yellow Wizard in the arcade because I was also really into Yugioh.
>>520988838>Yellow Wizard Same, luv me Egyptian themes. Blue Knight when I want to switch things up.
>>520988768Being the vessel of a barbarian god does weird things to you
Gee, Olive, how come YOU get a wholly unique design?
>>520984784based
>>520989458She tried putting on armour but have up after five minutes>My speed is superior so I'm sure to win!
>>520988838>GauntletNow this is the collab we need.>each floor of the event dungeon is set in a different realm (Mountain, Forsaken Province, etc)>monster generators pumping out enemies endlessly (with next to no EXP gain, so go destroy the generators)>Death can appear randomly from chests>every character gets a new voice line stating that FOOD IS GOOD>Skorne final boss with this playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Gi25YhSZA
im 33 and you guys are making me feel young
after setting off traps left and right I decided to level up the bondmates and work on my detect / disarm skill in generalleft is nothing, right is IQ, Dex, Mudd, MelI heard another anon had his over 130 and was still getting blasted though, I'm going to look for the graverobber gloves next, does anyone know what junk / area they drop in?
>>520991098I'm 34, whippersnapper.
>>520991184Rarely pops out of Guarda generic junk pretty sure
>>520979048>LOVE Berkanan's voicehow?she sound like annoying twat
>>520990701>No exp, chests have death insideSir if i have another event with no rewards i'll xplode.
>>520991184i got mine from dispatch junks
HARHARHAR I sure love being hit with multi-row katinos because this kusoge bugged out and made my mage do the shitty 0-damage basic attack instead of nuking the enemy casters when clicked the nuke button nice fucking game Jewcom I hope you enjoy the pipe bomb.
>spend one afternoon to turn a brand new adventurer to a bondmate>it turns into a LVL 5 VIT bondmate>my mage goes from 40 VIT to 45 VIT>expecting a result of at least +5HP and +5SP >the end result is +0HP and +1 SPwhat the fuck? explain pleaseis Vitality the most garbage stat ever? so no one should be farming VIT bondmates right?
>>520993384bro... please say sike...
>>520993384yea I accidently farmed an Olive bondmate (lvl 5 vit) thinking I'd get str or spd, I use the list nowI got +3hp though
>>520993384VIT is straight up useless. We warned you.
>>520993603>OliveWhy would you bondmate an SR over a generic though
>>520993526>>520993603>>520993757BWOS.one Anon told me to turn my Alexes into bondmates (Alex -> VIT), he trolled me!!!!
You SHOULD bondmate Gerulf.
>>520993790So even people I don't use can be included in the party
>>520993603Imagine not doing amelia
>>520993989cute>>520994065give me a tier list of Generals to turn into bondmates
>>520994065I actually use amelia in my party, when thief scroll pops back up i'm going to make her my main thief again
Do not bondmate Amelia!Bond and mate with her!
>>520989458iirc she was one of the first, if not first, character designs revealed for the entire game years ago. a prototype to everyone else before the other elves existed.she is the chosen one. her head is also huge.
drecom should add a function in which the longer your party goes on without taking a bath their body hair will grow back too
is there a good way to farm gold in guarda? these enhancements are super expensive
>>520994991"I really need a bath , i wonder if i have any soap left"
>>520995132Farm junk, sell whites, hold the valuables until event, repeat
>the mangaka who draws BB also plays this kusogeGIWTWM...
>charge up FPS on Lana>"This won't achieve anything..."jesus christ girl can you atleast TRY to have a cool line for charging up
>>520996401>gets given free Red equipment
>>520996676as wana she says>"Can you see through my technique!"I think its pretty cool
>>520996401>Saber instead of the black rodAt least he isn't wasting money.
>>520996676What's everyones FPS line, anyway? I only use Chloe and Ophelia.>Grow stronger my ode!>Be UNLEASHED
>>520997012Olive says "enjoy the show" very cutely
>>520997012i use benjamin too and he just lets out a war cry
>>520996861>At least he isn't wasting moneynot his own money at least, pic related his adventurer list
>>5209748611-hand staff + shield may indeed be something you eventually want to work towards with the direction that high level content is going; if you can get to a threshold where the Mage isn't 2-shot.
>>520997152>1301/1000Clearly the most cost effective way of spending money to earn gems is to become an author of a Wizardry spinoff
>>520975506Mages hit the soft cap for at least lv3 spells with a decent ebon rod. Maybe once we move on to needing lv5 spells we can go back to staves again but until then rods all the way.
>>520949380A +10 Axe can do 1k damage reliably on the vampire.
>>520997012Elise uses the "ode" line as well, but I think it's actually the game-specific proper noun "Od" that refers to SP (the same way the gas clouds use "Od-Withering Strike" that drains SP), rather than the English word "ode" (a type of poetry)
>>520997608I think it refers to odic force(life force) and games / anime use it because it sounds cool
BB (Blade & Bastard) is cool and all, but I wouldn't mind a collab with BB (BlazBlue)
>>520997608>>520998059The game also uses it in some of the Harken Blessings - "Blessing of Od" raises Attack and Defence.
all i want is ainiggi
I want to roooooooooooooooollllllllll.
>>521000004Stop rolling.start grinding.
>>521000004Forfeit your credit card to drecom anon, roll it
I want to roll but they aren't releasing characters I want.
>finally beat the vampire>Loot the chest, 4 scales junk, nice.>Go in and walkthrough the teleporter>...>Mfw
>>520997495Post the rest of the equips and the rest of your party.
how hard is an honorable arena 4 fight? i want him as my bondmate and i dont want to get cursed.
>>521001273lol, happens to all of us eventually
>>520997442>soft capYou are supposed to go "so what?" and keep going in order to 1-shot things instead of 2-shot them, or you're Mage-ing wrong
>Oars Collectors quest>can barely win 2 fights>they want me to do 4I'm starting to believe I'm not supposed to do this one at lv40.
>>520998472said no one ever, weeb
>>521002604Oh wow, 20 more damage that's sure to put me over some threshold! I'll take my evasion and action speed instead thanks.
>>5210026514? i'm pretty sure Oar is at the thrid wave
>>521002651I don't do requests until I beat the dungeon.Makes the requests easy and it's not like they are timed anyway.
>>521002953The quest inside the ship.>>521003047My autism requires me to clear them as quickly as they appear. Not this time tho, there's so much autism can do.
>>521003138>Autism>This gameGood luck, getting MC to level 60 in all classes by itself will kill your desire.
>>521000950Yeah, this.
>>521003405It's not a race. I'll do it eventually.
>>521001634Spare spear that I have on Savia, despite being +15 it deals less damage than the axeI also brought a +15 Ebonsteel 1h sword, which deals abyssmal damage even with FPS due to high def, to the point that it's possibly better to use precision strike with it during rushdown turn.
>>521003047>Do requests once during progression and abort when overwhelmed>Do them again after beating the dungeon for that sweet 100% completion revenge
>>521001273What do you mean?!
>>521003637it sounds like he didnt talk to the old dude so he didnt get credit
>>521003989You have just saved me from the brick. Bless you knight commander!
hiding lvl 1 VS hiding lvl 3what's the difference?
elmon is a retard
>>521003637He didn't fly so good.
Backshot Spell Codex
>>521004241Lv 3 is 2 levels higher.
>>521004241Noticeably less likely to be knocked out of hiding when hit and probably a larger stat boost.
>>521004241sp cost
radiant historia collab...
>cleared the vampire fightOh, this actually isn't hard with FPS. Took a couple tries to get the pattern I needed to do with buffing down but it's pretty easy past that.
>>521005291Now do it 50 more times and he might drop Fey junk once
>>521005363Jokes on you, he already did. Jokes on me, it didn't give me anything useful.
>>521005291What is the pattern?
>>521005501For me at least it's war cry on everyone's first turn, 2nd turn is armor break, slow scroll, attack scroll, third turn is FPS on everyone(sends him into katu range), then one more FPS lines up with his shield going down and finishes him off. If I had more damage some of the buffing could be cut but it's not like he hits hard aside from his one shot gimmick at low HP.
>>521005280unicorn overlord collab...
>>521005501He has 6800 ish HPAt half HP he will kaltuAt less than 2k he will bat
>>521005501Completely depends on your damage output. For me it's Armor Break, normal attack, Battle Cry (for a backline bow warrior), then 3 FPS 2x, kills him before he Bats anyone every time even with a rare miss
>using items>being above level 20>using FPSLiterally doesn't count.
so where can i learn about the full wizardry universe lore
>>521006085This thread.
>>521005978>accumulating enough xp to hit lvl 20you didnt beat the game
>>521006165>>521005978>resting at the inn and leveling upYou didn't beat the game.
>installing the game at allHeh, little newbies
>>521006085Once there was a man named Werdna.He was a bad guy. He stole some other guy's amulet.Adventurers murdered Werdna even though he was a good boy who categorically didn't do anything wrong.And then he came back to life and converted to Judaism and learned all of the Kabbalic secrets.The end.
>he breathesyou didnt beat th
>>521006409>And then he came back to life and converted to Judaism and learned all of the Kabbalic secrets.This was the best of the early games by the way, and it's mandatory to clear it.
>>521001971underwater mask + chronostasis
>>521001971Get yourself around 200 evasion and it's not too hard to solo. Still a little bit of RNG since he can still hit you occasionally, but bring some decent potions to top off just in case and it's not bad. Underwater mask helps. Or if you have a bunch of high evasion characters you can just bum rush him down with a bunch of melee.
>floor 10>knowledge bug freezes the sentries in a spot where they block the path
>>521007340and clicking the event button sets them free
Arna is sexo.
>>521007340>I know, I'll use an exploit to freeze shit>I am a genius!>wait... I needed to go there...>Oh no!
fuck off john drecom
>>521008127Buy my celebration packs first.
>>521007340I'll report this right away and get it fixed, don't worry
>>521008348I reported it when guarda came out, I wake up every morning hoping I see the patch notes
>>521008348>>521008698Fuck off lawfags!
>>521009372by abusing bugs and removing tedium + danger you are depriving yourself of the risk that must be savored to fully enjoy the gameyou can hate me anon, but know that I'm doing this for you
>wears two-handed staff>handed it with one hand
>>521009372Law is based.
>>521009879Aye, it's an alignment based on cringe.
>>521009372
>>521010223>words words words wordsChaos can't meme.
>Lawchuds and Chaoschuds: NOOOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST RESET THINGS! WE NEED LONG LASTING CHANGE!>Neutralchads: Haha that was a great adventure. Time to protect the status quo so the sequel's MC can have fun too.
>>521001971evasion like the other anon said, 90 minimal for frontliners. evasion is king for all current content. that and filling your mages' inventories to the brim with scrolls and pots, if you absolutely must have to bring casters in a fight with no magic (i.e. no back-ups and you're using your main party)tho remember that fight was meant for a level 50 cap at the time
>>521011086Centrism is a mental illness
>>521004241More crit, less likely to be hit, less likely to be punted out of hiding when hit
>>521002651Yes you can. Just blind and auto attacl them down, use sp and mp against the double and pack of fisb with one.Also flee or dodge most overworld fights.Playing smart wins everytime
>>5210036153 level 5 dragonslayers on fpsers can do it.
>>521011086To think the Lawchuds/Chaoschuds were the content creators of SMT conflict all along...
>>521004241I almost never get removed from hiding3 by the inevitable mazelos or som3 shit.
Is there a place to farm after the doll, but before beating the wall?
>>520946948If a warped one were captured, would it be possible for for masketta man to use his powers of reversal to remove their cursed affliction? Also, if we can resurrect people form their bones why can't our ghul boy use his hand to reverse undeath?
>>521016689I farmed f6 before the gwo until half my party was 60I just used the drops to +15 a basic arcane staff and ebonsteel 2h axeI'll use them as enh inherit fodder later but they work nowI was busy with the events but now that the dragon is done I'm looking at either spamming f8 from entrance, it seemed to have a lot of chests or seeing how I do farming from the last harken of f10I heard 10 is best for ninja gear, and I have not used my ninja, so I am likely going to work on that tomorrow
>>520997012I've pumped and dumped enough other adventurers into Albenius that her butterfies almost manage 200 damage raw. So her and Gerulf since I got a four star flame hammer from a den at some point while in a daze of drunken farming.Probably not impressive at all but it works for me.
>>521017476it's a pretty inconsistent power at the best of times and there's unknown rules governing itthe warped one stuff is still mysterious
>>521017993The line you drunkard, say the line!
>everyone hated the event because of how grindy it was>miss it because it was super easy to get steel/ebonsteel junk in the chestsnow I have to go back to the fucking boat
>>521017914The whole point of floor 10 is you use the greater harken to remove risk and throw yourselr at sentries
>>521018385It was 95% 1/2 star white garbage anon, they gutted the good farm almost instantly
>>521017476Right Hand of Reversal seems to have the same rules as the Cursed Wheel, basically that you can reverse things that are necessary to meet the fate aimed for by the Wheel. So reversing some random hag on the street to make her young again or reversing a burnt down house wouldn't work, as they don't factor directly in the aim of whatever the hell Masked Man is destined to accomplish.I think the game does a good job of establishing this with your hand whiffing on things, like the meat at the very start of the first Abyss.Not being able to reverse Elmon's death makes a little less sense at face value, but if you consider that having her foot uninjured a necessary piece for others to survive I guess it fits.
>>521017914I'll see if i can get to the next harken tomorrow, my main guys are still too fucked from the doll.I'm lvl 50, and i have just one piece of +10 gear, so i wanted to farm some upgrades before having to slap the wall
>>521018704why can we rewind ancient peasants in the abyss that immediately fuck off
He's so cool...
>>521019340The cursed wheel thought it would be a funny prank for them to revive deep in a dangerous dungeon.
>>521019739For a royal knight aspirant, Alex's armor looks more cool than that of the blue lion, the pot-smoking other dude or Elmond the Everdying.
>>521019739>cool knight dude>fighter alt. class>fuck yeah>
>>521021392Unironically would have been better to change everything else but keep the helmet on.
>>521021392yikesthe helmet stays on
>>521019829that is pretty funny, imagine their faces when/if they reach the surface only to find everything they know and love crumbled to dust centuries ago
>>521021392Nothing wrong with kenshiro Alex
>>521022113>KenLooks like Laios.
Hello?
>>521027546yoi think all the AI bots that were keeping the site populated died
>>521027618>t. botI'm on to you
>>521027618Maybe I can sacrifice them for that Milana mage book I've been wanting.
>>521027618
>>521027820Christopher Hitchens never actually existed you know
>>521027807I almost bought it the other day and then I realized I already had one, close callMilana is going to be in the slow cooker a while though
>>521018158
>>521028531she looks pretty cool
>>521029213I just want better more fun rewards. Like the dragon event should have had the dragon be an anti-fire bondmate IF you killed him without dragon slayers.
>>521019340They're all part of the Wheel's grand design. Trust the plan.
>>521028531I want to like Milana but she looks like she has fetal alcohol syndrome
>>521030389>I'm sorry soul of small village child, it was always the Wheel's plan to have you eaten alive while being raped by goblins>Now excuse me of my godly deific duties, while the souls of these dead goblins also rape and eat you in spirit
Jabroni Squad
>>521030667Which one is the boss of this dungeon?
>>521030667Still can't believe I accidentally married a jelly
>>521030667The HP up bondmate is such a fucking meme, I can't believe the small amount you get.
>>521015980Nigga my autos do 200 with 2 characters and 0 with everyone else, while those Oar fuckers have like 5k health each. And even if I could somehow evade every physical attack they do, they more often than not do their bubble attack and that shit doesn't fail.I know this post is bait, but I just wanted to say this in case someone actually thinks like this.
hey bros what is the quickest way to level up my kunoichi to 50 for dispelling the steel grade exam boss buffs
>>521030667>the gremlin is called GigiI don't know why I never made the connection before.
>>521031845You don't need to dispel them? Nuke the succ first then just kill the cow. It can't do much if you don't get hit.
>>521029213>updootedbut I kind agree that it sucksBeginner level should be for 20-30s, not beyond.
>>521031920No, man. He fucking embarrassed me in front of my party. I had to leave Barbara, who's been with me since day one. I also had to leave Adam but who cares, he's a bitch lol. Now I have Ophelia and Elise, but I must repay this debt by taking everything he holds dear to him (his wife and vitality)... I just want to level up Rinne to replace debra, so help me out. She's at 30 (35) already.
>>521028531>I almost bought it the other day and then I realized I already had one, close callI HAVE 2 priest adam books
>>521030837Ehh 25 isn't so bad
Anyone got a source on how much HP beginning fighter trial boss has? I cant tell if im close or if its hopeless
which Iarumas gets fed to the other? Both are level 30.Top is 7 bonus points all into IQ.Bottom was (i think) 5 bonus points, split between STR and IQ, i got this one first.
>>521033271don't have anything but feels but i feel like it's around 4-5k.Managed to do it with level 30 fighter MC and level 25 gerulf/Ophelia.
>>521033490If you only have two you're probably better off feeding the bottom one to MC or something.
Got Gessi to 5, with 3 warriors+thief tip you can usually kill him before he buffs himself.The problem is his own evasion is very high so you can whiff if your accuracy isn't good enough, and that's why benjamin is crying with 30 fort right now.
>>521030837honestly its pretty damn nice on mages, elves or ninjas. its saved my kiriha's life once or twice
>>521033582Is it even worth to armor break/selfbuff or are turns too precious to not be dealing damage
>>52103083720 HP is pretty decent for a single slot. If only we had more. Definitely has made a difference on my Alice more than once.
>>521033713Turns don't matter, what matters is HP thresholds.
>>521033713You just have to make use of the 'Opening' debuff from defending.Assuming no crits, I could probably deal about ~800 damage max a turn with my team, using the highest sp moves i had. Using defend on all 3 fighters and then hitting the ent one time with my strongest single hit (greatsword heavy attack+3) resulted in 1400 damage.
>>521034114isnt that worse? you are spending 2 turns to do 1400 instead of doing 800 twice
>>521034020Explain
>>521034393first turn 02nd turn 1400 + the hits from the other 2 fighters (so about 500), plus the fact that your team is healthier due to defending. Or you can make the other 2 defend again and hope you apply another opening.
>>521033639My mc is literally never back lining because>good alignmentand i've absolutely mega stacked my Alice full of inherits, so weakened Tzalik doesn't seem much use since i'll just be leveling mage/priest for the passives only and never actually playing an IQ class.
>>521033640fought him with no garlic and didn't get his bond
>>521034978You have to fight him with the water, no garlic, and maybe have done his quest.
Huh. Free bone.So what's the down low on points for him? Just dump everything into IQ?
>>521035693>IQfor what? Purely for detect trap ability?
Does anyone tried Ekaterina inherit into MC with another Eka in team? Ambush null will activate only on Eka or it will roll dice on both characters?
>>521035829not a multi-eka enjoyer here but from what i've heard it rolls the chance for each character, i don't know how it compares to just enhancing it for herself.
Can i use the skill pages to give a skill 75xp without learning it and then finish it off with a skill enhancement codex or does it not let you 'partially' learn a skill?
>>521035693Str. He's an Astral Break bot>but muh chestsYou're gonna class change him later okay
>>521035790The crossover might be over but the damage done to my psyche is permanent. I should not have needed more than 80 motherfucking detect at level 40.Thieves are just fucking weird to me because objectively you want them in the front with a dagger for damage but I like my frontline being able to take at least a hit or two so it's all fighters now (after Lana got switched from knigga).>>521036210Yeah see I didn't know which stat AB scales with. Str it is.
>had 1 mage and 1 priest in my party the entire game>finally give the mage DIOS/MADIOS like 70 hours in>At last i truly see. Instead of throwing out a 180 damage Erlik or trying to Katino spam in boss fights now Alice can actually stack up the 5 turn buffs while the mage heals.
>>521036406Thieves aren't suppose to take a hit, they use hiding to prevent enemies from being able to target them with ST abilities.High level hiding helps keep them hidden and safe at the frontline.
>>521032821Ninjas are trash at disarming traps, so if you think Rinne can replace Debra in that regard, think again
>>521036526But my unga...
>>521036526is there any actual evidence that hiding lowers their chance to be targeted besides that it makes sense? because i'm not sure that applies for this game.
>>521036617Purely anecdotal evidence but when I was levelling thief mc and tried hiding I got immediately decked in the head and fucking died.Honestly wouldn't it be nice if all those buffs and skills actually told you what they do and how much at each level? Wouldn't that be nice.
>>521036695the technology just isn't there
who's next for abyss 4?
>>521036764For abyss 4 you get put in the Wizardry 4 dungeon, after which the developers personally send a pipebomb to your mailbox.
>>521036764Oh shit! Is that... level 8 fighter? I better stay in Guarda or my career is over...
>>521036764pazuzu please.
>>521035957I see, thanks for answer, looks like I better just reinforce her discipline since her skill already at lvl3.
>>521036764Abyss 4 will be a swamp where you will be poisoned at every step, bogged constantly so you will have your fortitude shredded. Nothing but swamp monsters that are immune to phys, but the mages you'll bring instead will get wiped instantly by the Poison Giants and Gas Dragons.Savor the risk!
>>521037675but its clearly an ice zone bwo... we have the leaks. not to say it wont have a poison swamp, i wouldnt put it past these devs
>>521037675Newbro... We already know the next one is ice
>>521037806>>521037823>ice zoneI HATE SLIDING PUZZLESI HATE SLIDING PUZZLES
>>521037920We already had sliding puzzles with the water city anyway.
>>521037806>>521037823Okay, then it'll be Abyss 5You will not escape the boggening.
>The Ojisan are already beating Vampire with level 40 and 50 and Wild StrikeWhat's your excuses? https://x.com/yoi_neiro/status/1909802530626007362?s=46
>>521038050not interested unless they're managing to do it with like +5 steel green equipment or some shit
>>521038050>defend, debuff, attacki did see another nip use a def down dagger instead of armor break tho
Abyss 4 will be a poisoned frozen landscape. You will be poisoned and freezen (taking cold damage and starting combat with lowered initiative if not using fire equipment) .
>>521038205the only ojisans ive seen had ebonsteel 15 and steel 20.
>>521038050this shit isnt as hard as everyone is talking about, but its still a boring shit event
>>521038623as a level 30 lead grade, it's pretty hard
>>521038504Make it "if not a dwarf" and I'm game.
>>521036764Are Minotaur still Lesser Demons in Japanese? Because those fucks being Minotaur sucks ass.
Ernest Opinion: Male Legendary Adventurers should just be put into the regular pool, no one is spending money rolling bones for dicks.
Iarumas has been the absolute mega mvp as a new player. Does fairly mediocre in standard battles but in boss battles i think everyone else in the party combined does about 20% of the bosses health while he does 80%.
>>521036764what does a dragon puppy do
>>521036764>dragon zombieI WILL NOT FARM UNDEAD GEAR
>>521038050I'm not running around with +15 or +20 gear.
>>521038050>mfw I never once had to fight the vampire
I got a no boom Barbara with 10 skill points and a str boon Barbara with 5Which do I use?
>>521039404use a cuter beastgirl instead
>>521036567I will handle the all the traps.
>>521002651I have done it at level 40, the hardest fight is definitely the 2 oars, rest are quite manageable. You really want to keep cortu up (and then baltigrief/accuracy reduction) with your mage and increase your evasion with the cleric, should cover most bullshit oars can throw at you. If possible, make sure you're using +5-10 earth weapons (or dragonslayer sword), it's more dauting than it may seem, but it's definitely doable. If you're having trouble consider running a 2 priest / 1 mage or 2 mage / 1 priest backrow, the oars will only melee the frontrow and if they attack the backrow having cortu up should bring them damage under 100 easily. Definitely less resource intensive and easier than any of the 2 final bosses from abyss 2.While some quests can't really be cleared as soon as they appear , and this ending abyss 1 should let you see this as I don't think there is any way to clear the quest in b8f with abyss 1 resources+levels, the oar quest is definitely doable to do asap.
>>521039404fort?
>>521039013But anon, think of your poor mages, their MP pools are going to starve because of him. He's going to gobble up all the MP boost infusions, all of them! Think of your other mages, don't let them go hungry bro!
>>521038917then explain why whales are whaling for astral break on everyone. and using phillip and gerulf.https://x.com/xNd3pwLywA10582/status/1907760948041138315im sorry but your shitty opinion has no validity here
>>521041482>Why are whales emptying their wallets for a nukeAnon pls. Giving male gatcha characters overpowered abilities is how they sell them.
>>521040142how do I check without adding them? I have other barbaras
>>521038917Game playerbase is sweaty nolifers that are going to spend on meta, so all they have to do is to make them metaPeople skipped Gerard and Red Beard because they had shit skills, next time they will just put super strong attack skills on males, while releasing shit females for waifufags
Why yes I will laboriously drag my shit waifus through the abyss how did you know
>>521041775
>>521041830Or they go the twink beastman character route, that one does well too.
>>521041775and this
>>521039404Register the one with 10 bp, put all points to str, then try job changing her. If the job change shows a speed iv I'd use that, otherwise I'd use the 5bp str iv
abyss 4 will be like CoN in which you have to move from tile to tile to the beat of the music or else your party will get inflicted with a stackable debuff that lowers your stats by 1% per stack
>>521043470i still didnt beat doll
>>521042589Job changing gives them a new IV? do you get the old IV back if you go back to the original job?
I hope abyss 4 has more elemental mobs, i want a chance to use an elemental formation party
>>521043550
These fucking chuckleheads.>5 members get insta stoned by one trap>one of the currently stone members argues that they should continue on anyways, they agree>the sole survivor instantly gets stoned as well by the next trapped chest
>>521043550boons don't change when changing classes, they're just not shared between them so any new class can have it's own boon.
>>521043957>they agreeMore like>they can't say no
where exactly IS the location of this weekly request's enemy?
>>521044131so there's a chance my IQ boon Marianne that I thought would be useful after a job change won't actually have that boon?
Are there any Datamines?
>>521045948Yeah, it's where your characters' retirement info is.
>>521045948nope, trail and error
>>521043957meanwhile I had a party of six encounter a chest first thing, one of them gets stoned, the priest cures them then another of them suggests they retreat and they all agree and get 0xpI hate good dispatch parties
>>521046054>>521046058I mean: I'm curious about upcoming banners
>>521046402no, they release shadow figure like few fays beforeits all surprise
playing wizardry daphne really is like playing a gacha from the early 2010s when you wouldnt have clairvoyance or gems...
>Haven't leveled fighter MC in months>That grind to level 60kill me...
>>521045948yes
where the floors that push you into holes down to the floor below forcing you to retreat your steps and walk back to the next floor's stairs again
>>521043550>>521044131Read >>516614891
>>521044735guess she could be considered useful if you switch back to monk after getting all the mage spells. make a habit of checking the other class's boon right away to avoid future trouble.
>minotaur head 0/1
>>521048919hahahah yea.... yeah...i killed 44 of them yi. just for my head. surely you dont suffer that long
>>521046541>clairvoyanceYou know that "leaks" is marketing paid for by the company right?
>>521048919>>521049331If something like this isn't guaranteed to drop, they really should specify "Undamaged [thing]" or whatever. Shit pisses me off.
>>521047884You only need to hit 54, which is like a day of floor 6 alarm rooms if you go slowly.
Your party name?
The Brappers
Me n 5 hoes
>>521033640I just solo'd him with 200 evasion and the water mask.
O the thread that defies death....
>>521050534Five Humans and Their Pet Cat
>>521052449>Accept death
>you can astral break and get immediately get 2 turns for the unit in front (like for full power strike setup)thats kinda busted desuhttps://x.com/Vc2s3tdLNo27087/status/1909221604430844142
So what does accepting death actually do
>>521041482This was before the nerf. I don't think that still stands. His skill was stacking his buffs each hit instead of once per attack.I'm hoping to grab one for my Super Amelia.
>>521054921send you back to your last checkpoint on the wheel
>>521055072I mean like does anyone lose exp or do I lose any quest progress or is it just fortitude loss? Asking incase I die over and over in the fighter arena
>>521055189If anyone dies they stay dead. Meaning church.
>>521041482>Explain why whales are whalingThat's what's they do anon, they whale, for everything, it's written on the job description
>>521054921its called church tax and it make you pay all resurrection costs
now that the event grind is finally over im going back to kancolle
So if I am in the level 25-30 range, is the fighter even just a full on skip?
>>521057621You are legally obligated to list your favorite boat. Hayashimo is mine.
>>521057829you can do the beginner one which will result in you getting a total of 100 coins so you can have not even half the amount needed to buy one class change :)
>>521036764>Level 8 Fighter
>>521044461>Milana: so we all agree I'm the leader now? Well I don't hear any complaints!
>>521058054>Hayashimobased, of course mines gotta be shimaunryuu
We need a baker
why is 4channeru dying sometimes now
only wiz picture i had savednew>>521060347>>521060347
>>520971961>>520971540I agree with both of your points. The main issue with the Gacha Market is it focuses heavily on Whales for Rolls and Characters. It would be nice to focus on the mid-range spenders as a whole.
