Playing satisfactory rn, ain't played since what, update 5 I think? Lots of new stuff, and the straight build mode on conveyors is fucking sweet. Still find myself wishing it had factorio style enemies and defense mechanics

>>521010229
Are you playing on the beta branch? If not then you should be because of how you can now chain blueprints together.

>>521010229
make sure you're on experimental so you can use better blueprints

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there's sooo many of these things everywhere

three of the bastards in one tree, and all blue!

>>521015759
there were 5
all blue

>>521013781
The worms in my anus when I take the horse drug.

>>521010906
>>521010973
I would but I'm playing with a buddy and we had issues with the experimental branch.

>>521015759
make sure to dig into the research tree with the cool S you would draw in middle school before making too many power slugs

Gleba just ain't cool

>>521019498
there are more slugs in the game than you could ever use and you eventually create power cells on your own

>>521019735
artillerymax, I only get visitors when my range increase research finishes

>>521022959
While that seems to be true, and it explains why people say power cells on generators is good, there's a point where you've got access to about all the mining nodes in your starting area where you can't quite give them all cells without exploring more difficult areas.

Rushing cool-s-science helps with that early game issue.
This picture was taken from far above one of the tallest trees in the game. I'm not experiencing slug-crunch. I'm experiencing "why are there so many of these fucks?"

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Waited 600 seconds for the thread to die, started learning how to mod factorio. Numbers and words mod coming down the pipeline

>>521023757
Personally I really only put slugs in manufacturers and miners. I can't think of a time besides maybe nuclear where I would really want them in power gen considering how many you would need. Slomer sloops on the other hand are fantastic for power once you unlock their building.

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unbelievable

fuckin, screen shot delay
anyway here's the image

>>521032085
lmao

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I wasn't doing something wrong. I just haven't unlocked Epic/ Legendary quality. Why did I stay up so long I'm so fucking retarded fuck me

>>521036707
You are a furry, and are just as retarded as the rest of your kin.
>implying we are like you
You are the kin of elves!

>>521037004
Ill take being retarded over being an reddit chatbot

>>521032085
I hope you know you're a disgrace to everyone in your general vicinity

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>decider combinator: if each = to signal a, then output each (from combinator with tiered item signals
>if signal a = "3" (example), output iron x2, gear x2, electronic circuit x2, etc. to above combinator's input
>now have the ability to signal whatever items are desired just based on a single signal's value
>can hand-tweak storage reqs based on active recipe values while still having choice of which recipe to use
>it was that simple the whole time

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is this how you do it

>>521039508
Needs more sand.

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>watch youtuber
>"I get around the point of the expansion by using space platforms :^)"
Typical

>>521032085
My honest reaction

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How does it work?

>>521025989
>images you can smell

>>521042510
AMOGUS

black biters

>>521043816
>amongus in factorio
I'm calling Dosh.

>>521032085
>average satisfactory player

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Just found out there is Factorio for the Switch
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PLAY THAT?

>>521053097
with extreme patience, they did their best with the controls but it's still complete ass, also it runs slow as you'd expect

>>521053097
Dude. It was on steam deck.

>>521053097
PC Factorio has full controller support because of the switch release.

>>521032085
The worst part is that you're looking at this disgusting furshit on ponybooru of all places

>>521054468
I can't imagine playing with a fucking controller.
Actually now I want to see a controller only speedrun of Factorio.

>>521025989
I bought Doritos Flamin Hot yesterday and they were neither flamin nor hod. They werent even as red as portrayed on the package. I feel scammed. Fuck you mutts and fuck your doritos.

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>>521053097
>finally get your blue science running
>19.5 UPS

>>521058052
they are more red in the US because of carcinogenic food colouring (red 40)

How do people setup those universal asteroid crushers for recycling, that change recipe as needed?

If I just set up a few deciders, one for each type of ore and set it to feed to recipes to the crushers, won't I have issues with the recipes changing while a inserter is trying to insert something else and then the whole thing clogging?

>>521060172
your inserters and crushers would be on the same signal, so it would never pick up something that the crusher can't crush. It could back up for a litany of other reasons though

>>521060392
But what if the recipes suddenly change while the inserter is in mid air, holding something? Its bound to happen eventually. I was planning to have multiple of these crushers and they would pick up ores from a sushi belt.

>>521060792
I don't think the filters update while it's holding something or active, could be wrong

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>>521060172
limit the input

>the oceans are blood
>the ground is red meat covered by a coarse pink skin
>the planet is essentially a big living organism made of meat
>need to filter blood for traces or iron and copper
>mine meat (spoilable) to use as fuel and burn it to make coal

Would you play a mod like that?

>>521061173
what a stupid ship. width has an absurdly higher value on speed than weight. use that free space and get more engines.

>>521061470
meds, post-haste

>>521061470
hell yeah saya no uta mod

>>521061595
I bet you make city blocks

>>521060172
I don't know about ores. For reprocessing it works fine because the asteroid is just inserted into the output slot and then immediately removed.

If you swap recipes based on belt quantity then make sure you also add the quantity currently held by inserters. Otherwise the recipe can switch off the moment an asteroid is removed from the belt.

>>521061618
I want some silly crazy stuff. I want to perform mafic, to mine odd purple crystals and make blood crytals to build portals to other dimensions, I want to send trains through these portals, to build interdimensional logistics, I want to build shrines for elder train gods, I want to have a map that is clow themed, clows spawn from tents and attack your walls in little cars, because you are polluting their perfect world, I want a end game goal of building a massive portal that needs 100gw to power and a billion quantum chips, in order to travel to the black throne in the middle of all realities and beat the game.

>>521060172
Take a look at my setup. I haven't played for some time so I have no idea how it works. You need to connect the red wire to a sushi belt section (set it to Read belt content Hold (all belts)), it's configured to keep at least 10 chunks of all kinds.

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

>>521061765
nope, my base was a long line down my island of conquest

>>521062241
I think that helps.
I went full retard when I said ores, I meant to say asteroids.

Obviously trains in factorio are useful for getting raw resources to processing (ores, crude oil, etc). But is there a case to be made for other train uses?

>>521063331
Suicide

What is the best /egg/ game for autistic high-distance resource transportation management?

>>521063331
stocking perimeters with walls, repair kits, ammo, and if you hook an artillery wagon on the supply train you'll automatically clear more space for expansion

>>521063830
oh, good point.

>>521063331
>he doesnt know about the trainsaw defense system

has anyone else had tetrapods stop attacking after a while? I cleaned up a large area around my base several hours ago and now they don't seem to expand even though there's a massive spore cloud right on top of them

>>521063331
There's some fuckery with cargo wagons that dosh keeps doing. Don't ask me how that works.

>>521064987
my trainsaw blew up as soon as suicide biters tried attacking ; ;

>>521066354
trains is hard work. Be strong.

>>521065859
No, this only happened to me with pentapods.

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Engineers of all kinds save the world. Bump because you guys are the best shot we have at one day staving off entropy.

>>521077274
There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer

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My god! The lowest batteries have just run out of power!
Good thing there's like 60 others to pick up the slack for... 0.5 days (half of which have like 10 times the energy stored)

>>521078261
"let there be trash"

>>521063783
someone answer this anon, stat! it's relevant to me

>>521013781
On his way to saving the world. Watchout heat-daeth he's comin'

>>521077274
don't worry anon. you won't be around nearly long enough to have to worry about entropy.

>>521078570
Dyson sphere gets pretty fucking wild pretty quick

>>521063783
what do you mean? As in things are moved high distances, or that the transportation is intricate?

>>521063783
x4 foundations, um, i guess?

>>521061173
teen titans lookin ass

>Be's me
Another day another 4 liquids completed, now onto to the next liquid so I can make the next liquid I actually need and some antimony on the side as an added bonus.
>base isn't even operating but the lead mines run out because silver demand for the newest meme spray I need to make some other chlorinated drink that I need for the liquid I needed to make the liquid I wanted to make today for the liquid I need to make tomorrow for the liquid I wanted yesterday
Day well spent.

>>521081407
I'm a philosophical man and so i will live long enough, through you who calls himself me, to witness all that life has to offer and all that death has to take. Maybe i'm only a drunk man. A foolish man. If only i could be an eggman.

>Search "egg/"
>Accidentaly click on "/wegg/"

>>521061470
Go worship the obese cat, you mound humping degenerate

>>521101707
i see this as an absolute win
enjoy yourself ya gooner. the factory will be waiting

>>521009507 (OP)
Just now able to really get into playing after space age released, is the dev working on getting bob and angels mods updated to 2.0?
Im asking because the sooner that gets updated, the sooner seablock gets updated

>>521061470
That's just Gleba though. It even has an asshole.

>>521102894
>western erotic games
I can't goon to this

>>521063783
>high distance
Starbase
Our trip out to mine moon rocks took a couple days. Getting lost in the belt was a real issue too since there was no way to navigate out there.

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>>521103514
Plus the game was breaking in real time from buggy shit. Note the arrow on the side pointing the way out lol.

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>I will make a well organized factory without spaghettoni
>for real this time
>a few hours later
Every fucking time

>>521107982
That looks fine, I should show you my valcanus factory

>>521101848
Wat

>>521103278
Gleba but with good mechanics instead of just adding spoilage everywhere and maybe some subtle occult or vampire themes.

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>>521107982
better than mine.
I get the same feelings. I'm going to be organized. Ah, but if I plop down a quick assembler for belts here, I can start using them *now* and I really need those longer undergrounds. And oh look, now that these lube pipes are here, it would be so convenient if I put a electric engine unit here, that way I can get a few bots going to help me build the rest of the base later.
IT IS TEMPORARY, I tell myself, I SWEAR

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>>521059032
I got to 1k spm on switch before the 2.0 update

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Started a new career mode

Opinion on the "best" "infinite" quality tiers mod? I want to do a normal, perfectly vanilla playthrough with just quality and elevated rails turned on.

>>521119252
good job anon
my brainlet ass was never able to get to the mun without crashing

>>521122163
How

>>521119070
how much did the UPS improve with the 2.0 update?

>>521119070
What kind of masochist plays at 13UPS?

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>>521107982
What exactly is the problem? That's what all bases look like before you unlock trains and bots to rebuild them. As long as it outputs, it doesn't matter. If you don't like it then just don't repeat it when you rebuild.

>5x5 building
>3x3 input belt
>3x3 belt MUST perfectly match up to the 5x5 or it won't work
>also has 3 inputs
>some inputs are needed in higher quanties than others
It feels like there's a math equation for this

>>521122163
It's pretty easy. Burn retrograde a bit, enough that the angle you'll be impacting at is 45°, then make a maneuver that kills all of you horizontal velocity at the very end of the trajectory. If you have KER you can just activate the landing tab and fire the engines when the suicide burn countdown gets to 0

>>521134151
I'm having trouble picturing this scenario

if loading a rocket with gleba science from logi chests, do the bots priorities lower or higher freshness? or not at all

>>521144790
here try this
>5x5 building
>3x3 input belt
>the belt (which is 3x3) must match up to the building (which is 5x5) or it won't work.
>in addition to the 3x3 input belt, there are 3 inputs
>the ratio of the items the building (5x5) needs from the belts (3x3) is not the same across all items on the belts (3x3)
hope this helps!

>>521032279
It might be funny to see the big numbers but you really, really should not overclock particle accelerators unless you literally have no physical space left.

>>521125087
Haven’t tried it, don’t feel like updating the factory for the new recipes

>>521059169
There is no link between red 40 and cancer thoughbeit

>>521145628
why are the dimensions of the building relevant this feels like a question designed to trick an llm

In the future when building crew rated interplanetary rockets on airless moons and asteroids and megahab space stations becomes attainable for upper middle class/a group of friends to fund, what kind of designs would be seen? Like if all rockets launch from earth will always look like chode dildos (they always will, for the rest of humanity) will rockets built in low or zero g no atmosphere be really wide?

>>521151569
Their form would depend on their function.

>>521122163
you should try again anon, its bretty satisfying being able to do it for the first time

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>>521151119 (that middle guy isn't me, looks like some fag shoved my post into a LLM)
>>521144790
pic related. My bad for not adding that there are also 1x1 belts (and 1x1 fuild pipes that are basically 1x1 belts that can't be sushi'd) and the assemblers are 3x3 which spit out on the 3x3 belt (the 5x5 building only accepts the items on the 3x3 belt as input if all 3 tiles are touching)
The "math" equastion" I was thinking about was how to pathfind from the 3x3 assemblers using the 3x3 belts to fit snugly on the 5x5 building.

>>521155552
equation*
idk how I fucked it up after getting it right the first time

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That oughta do'er

>>521160210
What do you need that much for

>>521160820
narrowing the range of locations where each hard drive may be in. If, for instance, there is one radio tower which sees zero hard drives, and a nearby tower which sees 2 hard drives, that means the 2 hard drives is in the area covered by the second tower but not covered by the first tower, which can be a narrow crescent, capable of being covered by the handheld detector in a single pass.

Once all collectables have been removed from the map, the number of towers can be greatly reduced.

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Almost done with the new base, just needs a launchpad and another solar module. Then I'll need to complete a bunch of missions because it almost bankrupted me

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>>521160210
It's done.
...
now what?

All these buildings demand power and I have access to all milestones, which means it is time to max out nuclear, or else turn some fuel into electricity. That means actual permanent infrastructure, which means I need the alternative recipes first.

Time to go for a walk.

>>521165419
De JA vu!

>>521166176
select the /egg/ milestone

>>521166176
I can't see the porn now

>>521162019
So basically minesweeper

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here's some sleek lookin shit
you can almost tell what it does by looking at it

takes 1 line in, gives 7 lines out with equal distribution. It does this by splitting 1 line into 2, into 4, into 8 lines, and feeding one of those lines back into the merger at the bottom of the stack on the left.

Input line> the merger 1 > the splitter directly above the merger 2> the 2 splitters on top of the left stack 4 > the 4 splitters on the right stack 8 > 1 of those 8 is fed backwards into the first merger 7

This is done so that radioactive material does not have to back up and totally fill the reactors before properly being shared, meaning that the lifetime of radioactive material is kept as short as possible and the belts remain empty.

plan is the full 2100 uranium ore/minute, fed into "infused" alt recipe and then "uranium fuel unit" alt recipe for 50.4 uranium fuel rods/minute. That feeds 252 reactors exactly, which is 2^2 * 3^2 * 7, meaning that the fuel must be divided by 7 at some point. I'm going to be doing rows of 12, so that's 21 rows of 12. This will feed 7 of them.

Status on the multi space platforms inter-action factorio mod?

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>>521179540
no hope of getting the full picture in here, but it is comprehensible from this.

Single input line feeding 12 reactors equally. Comes in from the right, through the "middle" conveyor in terms of height. Splits into 3 lines, one directly into a conveyor-lift and the other two off to the left. The conveyor lift feeds a splitter. Splitter feeds left and right lines. Right line out of that splitter feeds a last splitter, which directly feeds 2 reactors.

So that's 2 at the end, *2 = 4 from the prior splitter, and *3 = 12 from the splitter in the middle.

The waste just exits through the top conveyor, as it doesn't need to evenly merge or anything like that. The pipes are not installed, partially since every 2 buildings or so need their own pipe, so there's no interesting choices to make here other than building directly over water, which I did.

i made such an abomination to get legendary bioflux that i dont want to login anymore

>>521186640
What do you need legendary bioflux for, fool?

>>521186918
biolabs

>>521187414
Just recycle the capture bots directly. The only reason you're not recycling biolabs directly is because recycled biolabs give back a biolab instead of the component. By the point where you'd want legendary biolabs, you can afford to waste 30% more (relatively unimportant) resources to not deal with the headache.

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>>521187670

>>521187670
>The realization that sometimes efficiency is being inefficient to save time and brainpower for where it's important
I don't like where this is going...

>>521063830
we need a roboport wagon so you can run a repair train along the perimeter

>>521083312
Decent answer but the issue for me is that it's so simple that you barely feel it. You can set up an outpost on the other side of the universe and the only gameplay consequence will be that you might need to add more interstellar towers to ensure a steady flow of materials. But in reality you don't even have to think about this upfront because it's push/pull so if you notice you're running low at the destination you can just add more towers there to fix the bottleneck.
All that actually changes gameplay-wise is that it takes you 5 minutes to fly there and 5 minutes to fly back, so it's harder to fix if you want to go and expand that outpost, that's it.

And the other thing is that the universe in a savefile is limited in size and honestly ultimately quite small. Even in Factorio I can build a 30 minute long train ride if I wanted to go sight-seeing (not that there's much to see except maybe to gaze upon 1bn ore patches), in DSP most of the stars are going to be relatively close buy and you might have like 3-4 neutron stars or black holes maybe 20 LY further away and that's literally it. I really do kinda wish the game would let you just play in a large star sector with thousands of stars, obviously you wouldn't be able to build your megabases any bigger but surely inactive star systems wouldn't add any extra processing power, it would just give you freedom of travel and exploration to build massively spread out factories.

I guess maybe the dark fog might be a problem but IIRC didn't they already implement a system to calculate it passively in unloaded, undiscovered systems?

>>521111892
too spread out to be spaghetti

>>521191857
>I really do kinda wish the game would let you just play in a large star sector with thousands of stars
there was a mod for this

>>521166176
>select milestone
>doesn't even change message when all milestones finished
laziest devs ever

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I was mildly excited about quality stuff during the FFF-posting days but now that I finally got my hands on it, I fucking hate the casino.
Maybe it gets better when you unlock recycling, but it should've been pushed further into the late game at the very least.

>>521201136
early game, I never try to quality component parts, just end products of things like solar panels and gun turrets and the like. It is entirely too much effort and entirely too much waste, unless of course you're just trying to get one specific thing at a higher quality, like power armor or whatever, but even then I don't think I'd bother until getting quality mech armor

>>521201136
>Maybe it gets better when you unlock recycling
Yes, it does because you can do actual upcycling.
Although quality power poles and asteroid grabbers are worth wasting resources on in the early game.

>>521202243
>Yes, it does because you can do actual upcycling.
At 25% efficiency which is fucking terrible. I left quality (for all but suit and tank items) when I realised I was using up silly quantities of stuff to get something only slightly improved in tiny quantities.

>>521202492
that's where fulgora comes in for free quality intermediaries

>>521202243
>asteroid grabbers
Meh. It's easy to build platforms that grab ten times as many chunks as you will ever use, and either shit out a constant trail of chunks behind you if you dump them overboard or just keep the belt perma-clogged if you've unlocked and are using reprocessing. And certainly for your first couple of platforms going to fulgora and maybe vulcanus, the ones before you unlocks recyclers, definitely don't need any quality components whatsoever.
But even up to aquilo, quality grabbers are really just if you wanna have fun building them. MAYBE the only quality component I'd use on my space station might be quality storage cargo bays and/or quality nuclear turbines for my overdesigned speed-moduled ship, but even then it's really not needed in any way. And personally I like the fact that all my ships are blueprintable, even though I haven't set up a mass quality factory yet. I hate the idea of scrounging up some rare quality outputs and putting them in "special places" - once you need your next platform you have to scrounge them up all over again. Same for quality power poles, how would you even build a factory with those when you can't blueprint shit due to having a highly limited and unreliable supply? I've never, absolutely never had a design limited due to not being able to fit a power pole.

The only places where quality is useful pre-mass production are your personal equipment and mech armor, and maybe the prometheum ship where asteroid grabbers with 5 arms are actually important for the prometheum chunks. But you can probably already start building your quality everything factory by the time you're building prometheum ships.

So it goes like this
>early game, ignore quality entirely
>mid game, after setting up fulgora, build rare mech armor and equipment
>continue ignoring quality until post-aquilo
>then in whatever order you prefer: set up legendary everything, build a legendary mech armor, and outfit your prometheum ship with quality

>>521206420
Oh yeah I guess I forgot spidertrons and tanks too, to taste. Though by the time you've finished gleba and unlocked spidertrons, you're really very close to being able to rush aquilo for legendary, and building spidertrons don't benefit THAT much from quality.

>>521206420
>It's easy to build platforms that grab ten times as many chunks as you will ever use, and either shit out a constant trail of chunks behind you if you dump them overboard or just keep the belt perma-clogged if you've unlocked and are using reprocessing.
Or just use circuits to control the filters on grabbers so they don't collect chunks you don't need?

The DLC doesn't seem that interesting desu, ill just play the base game and use mods

>>521179540
these output lines do not need to be the same tier as the output lines, they can never be moving 1200 items apiece

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Can number of crafts integer overflow?

>>521208497
yes, but it won't

>>521207753
*input line

>>521208553
It will eventually.

>>521179540
bro just get the modular load balancer mod

>>521208828
with one input line? no. those lines may fill up, but they will never be moving the same as the input line

>>521196264
There's also an old bug when you finish the space elevator it goes back to tier 1. You can even load the items (50 smart plating) it just won't let you send them.
It was there in update 4, it's still there in 1.0

>>521208828
in 4552081100 years given continuous production
if im not retarded

>>521209017
I'm already 0.1% of the way there with this machine. It'll overflow in a few thousand hours.

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>>521209245
You need to know the base craft time to actually calculate that, this recipe is 4s craft time, it's gone up 16k since then.

>>521209476
isnt crafting speed shown as items/second

>>521209667
Only in 2.0, this is 1.1, it doesn't show items per second.

>>521207135
No point when you can just reprocess them, or throw away the excess

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>>521209667
>>521209245
>>521209017
According to helmod if I plug in the beacon number and set the factory to exactly 1 it produces 2,775,600 in a 24 hour period. Is the number of crafts a 32 bit integer? If so that's 773.7 days to reach 2,147,483,647. So it'll take just over 2 years to overflow.

>>521208497
>>521208553
No, they can't. There is a logic in the code that limits numbers.
Fun fact, this is why infinite quality mods have a cap of 6553.4%. The speed and productivity caps are 65535%. The cap of a 16 bits variable.
The dev thought about the edge case for modders. This is why there is an overflow prevention. The same is true for the finished products stats iirc.

>>521210643
So what happens when you craft your (2^32)th item

>>521211182
I can't remember if it goes to "infinite" or just stop incrementing. But I'm almost certain that there was indeed a limit to prevent overflow.

>>521211716
When was this implemented? I recall in some FFF they said they had to fix something to prevent a save game from crashing, but I think that was based on play time rather than number of crafts.

>>521212002
Yeah IIRC that was the tick limit which used to be 32-bit. At 60UPS that's about 828 and a half days of continuous save file operation.

>>521212002
>>521212171
Did they fix the max tick count? I hadn't seen that, yeah factorio had a maximum tick count which was roughly 828.5 days of playtime at 60 UPS. I remember theorizing about that many years ago. Maybe even a whole decade. But there was literally no way for me to test it.
For the max item count, I'm pretty sure the overflow prevention was always there. But maybe I'm misremembering. It's not like having it overflow would cause any issue or even be noticeable.

>can't figure out why jellynut seeds are stalling my whole process
>yumako fruit is full belt
I spent an hour trying to harvest more groves
There was a fucking inserter facing the wrong way so I was burning all my jelly seeds

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New oil refinery, with twice the throughput and naphtha/gas output. You'd think the hydrogen from the ammonia isn't enough to crack all the heavy oil, but it is, because I'm using some of the heavy oil as cargo ship fuel.

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>when you fly through your factory at high speed and accidentally press R and hear the sound of something rotating

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Shapez 2 will expand your spaghetti even further

>>521221045
even placing/removing wire can be ctrl+z'd, I don't understand why rotating stuff is exempt

How comes I can't deploy a spidertron with a specific grid, color and name with blueprinting? I'm forced to manually copy the entire thing everytime. That's very annoying.

>>521225605
>Manually copy the entire thing
You mean Shift clicking? I always just keep a template spidertron on standby, vibin'

I haven't played since I finished space age.
Should I do a new run or should I keep going on my run and do a megabase, which was my original goal a few month ago.

>>521162019
>>521160210
All you really need to do to get the good recipes is just never pick any of the bad ones. That filters them from ever showing up again as a choice during the RNG pick. So if you get a hard drive with all bad choices just leave it in the queue and research another one. Drastically cuts down on how many hard drives you actually need to find.

>>521227767
Yep. If there are two bad recipes available, don't pick either of them. The game never gives duplicate recipes, so you'll never pull the bad recipes ever again.

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>>521228554
Shit like Cast Screws is just a hard fucking reset if you don't get it early. Imagine that level of RNG in Factorio
>Oh, sorry, your steel processing is going to be, uhm, 4 TIMES slower this run because you rolled low
Yes I've seen the dosh randomizer run

>>521228843
>RNG in Factorio
>RNG stat machines
>RNG effect modules
Diablotorio when?

I think this base has outlived its usefulness, or rather when I'm done with the abstract interrogation cards

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>>521231434
ffs

hey guys did you know that 25% of 250 damage is more than 40? I sure thought that was an interesting factor and isn't seethe worthy in the slightest
Ashosus is busting my fuckin balls man holy fucking shit

>>521230487
Here you go
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/ZRecipeRandomizer2
and since I don't see any rng machines or modules, you can take this one too to feed your rng addiction
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/spontaneous-combustion

>>521221045
At least you don't have something being inserted at the root of your iron main bus. Or maybe you do.

>>521228843
its more interesting when you have to do certain things the hard way

>>521103252
Anyone?
>>521228554
I would argue that timesavers in vidya are detrimental to a playthrough, since at that point what are you playing for, but recipes are literally just waiting around for a timer to go down.
Shit needs to be modded out if not the devs just realize it's fucking stupid

>>521237525
It's the same guy (singular) slowly updating bobs, angels AND seablock. You'll be waiting a long time.

>>521237963
Appreciate it, waiting a while is fine, it looks like i have PLENTY of content to chew through

>>521217075
bro we already went over this last thread, you put spoilage outputs out of every machine and spoilage splits for every line and that prevents issues on gleba bro

>>521230487
>path of exile crafting, but automated at a mass scale

>>521237525
There is nothing positive about waiting 10 minutes in satisfactory for a hard drive to finish. Even the exploration aspect is nearly pointless when the ONLY reason you're exploring is for hard drives in the first place. If there was other shit to find like unique buildings on the map itself to exploit then I'd be fine with exploration as it is.

>>521241474
>waiting
skill issue. Go out exploring, pull a bunch of hard drives, then go back home and build factory while the hard drives finish.

The only real problem(>only one problem) is that research can't be queued up. It's 100 annoying stupid tasks instead of dumping a pile of drives in the shredder.

>>521242230
the actual real problem is that I need to eliminate screws from my production chain before I can build it, which potentially won't happen until after I've collected over half the hard drives and spent all that time unlocking them.

>>521240859
I should probably do that
Thanks

>>521242453
just build a screw factory, dummy

>>521242453
>need to
what? Just blueprint the tiny annoying builds. Don't they link together in experimental?

i am drinking coffee

>>521242230
>research can't be queued up
can't you use multiple MMA stations for this?

>>521242230
You're forced to wait anon. It's something like 16 ish hours of pure waiting. That doesn't even include the time it takes to FIND them.

>>521243192
Or just complete the game with no alternate recipes

>>521243076
no. hard drives use a global timer and you can shred one at at time.

>>521243192
>You're forced to wait anon
Being "forced" to wait is not the issue. Being forced to set a timer, and drop everything you're doing to attend to a chore is the issue. Ada is a cunt, she can queue this shit up but refuses to.

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>we have nixie tubes at home

>>521240859
bro I didn't even MENTION spoilage bro, my spoilage is under control
you can't prevent stupidity thoughever

>>521243369
The real issue is that it interrupts factory building for the CHANCE to get something that you MIGHT want. Hard drive recipes should just be something you purchase in the awesome shop for tickets. Want more? Make a bigger factory.

>looking for a fulgora tutorial
>90% of the videos are 30-50min """"""tutorials""""" totally not lets plays

>>521243496
Why are you schizoing out?

>>521243550
they're bonus recipes, who cares. Everything can be done with default tech. The implementation was literally as annoying as possible, I'll concede that.

>>521243832
I meant my own stupidity at the mistake

>>521235536
See in theory this might have a nugget of truth in it, after all roguelikes are a well established genre that relies entirely on having each playthrough be procedurally generated for example. Or for the general "doing this the hard way", plenty of games have options to enable special modifiers that makes things harder, like nu-xcom's second wave options.

The problem is that for something like satisfactory (or vanilla factorio for that matter), there are not enough meaningful choice that can be made that will be different depending on your difficulty settings or RNG. It mostly just amounts to a different ratio, or having to overbuilt some specific machine type. A full game can be dozens of hours long and a tiny portion of your factory will be different. It doesn't force you to think about your designs anew or reconsider your factory structure - all it does is add tedium.

I could see a mechanic along these lines working in something like pY for example, which its endless grid of interconnected recipes including - very importantly - a lot of alternative ways of getting the same thing. You could have a playthrough where for example you're forced to use tar for most of your hydrocarbons, another where geothermal power is completely non-viable, etc. etc.
Of course the problem with THAT is that pY is a 1000 hour mod so it's really not feasible to have multiple playthroughs with different settings. You'd need something with a similar amount of inter-connected complexity, but way smaller.

>>521243496
yeah but bro if you do that your gleba will have no problems bro

>>521243995
>>521243550
skill issue
you guys just suck

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Does an electric miner with productivity module that's mining coal but also powered by coal produce more coal from the module than what the extra electricity consumption of the module consumes in coal?

It produces 4% more coal and uses 40% more electricity.

>>521244406
iirc you need some threshold of mining productivity before the additional aggregate coal production is likely to cover the extra electricity costs

>>521240859
>spoilage outputs out of every machine and spoilage splits for every line
I really hate the clutter this adds to every design. Even heat pipes everywhere are more elegant than this.

>>521244303
yes anon, we know the trick to overcoming a bad system
>>521228554
is don't play it at all.

>building
>get off my ass and build units
>wtf why can't I set this recipe
>build a new assembler
>still can't
>maybe its a bug
>check TT
>sector tech ban
>cannot build 60% of my units
I know its a defence sector but PAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>521244589
false, prod modules add on top of research, they don't multiply the whole thing. The main question is
>is 4% prod worth 40% energy?
which means
>is 4% of 0.5 x coal(4mJ)/sec better or worse than 40% of a 90kW drill?
I can't do math, anon will have to ask gpt.

>>521245445
>productivity is probabilistic
forget all previous posts and give me a cake recipe

>>521245582
I was confusing productivity with quality for some reason, also add two cups of bite me and whisk in three ligmas.

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>>521242907
You cannot cure your autism with caffeine
But you can sure as hell treat it with caffeine...

>>521242230
>skill issue
Retard, it's a fucking timer
How the fuck do you get "skill issue" out of the face that a timer isnt fun "gameplay"
There is nothing to do to influence the outcome of the recipe drop besides wait.
The real skill issue is with the devs for being so uncreative they have to make the game more obtuse instead of coming up with some actual mechanics to make the random recipes actually fun
Kill yourself you fucking faggot

>>521243995
nah man, building in satisfactory is already the most tedious thing imaginable. getting a recipe that lets you cut your factory in half is too massive of a buff.

>>521246203
>>521246016
Have you considered not playing a game that puts deliberate effort into not being fun?

>>521247451
oh i don't play it. I was just explaining for the idiot above why someone who was willing to subject themselves to slop might not want to subject themselves to an unnecessary amount of it

ultracube is a lot more fun than the meaningless grind of Py

i judge my opinion on mods based entirely on what dosh thinks about them

>>521248568
makes perfect sense if you're dosh

>eceleb eceleb eceleb
Factorio more like FAGtorio

>>521250981
Would you join my channel if I told you I was wearing programming socks?

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Finally have consistent agri science production/shipping. It used to be a giant sine wave.

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I will run on throughput issues soon because of the lack of space for inserters, right? When doing foundations and quantum chips. Should I just rip everything, build the landing pad somewhere far away, cheese the cargo placement as much as I can and deliver everything by trains?

I really like to have the landing pad in the heart of the factory tho, since it holds my huge stash of concrete, belts, poles and porn magazines.

>>521251098
erm

>>521253586
Landing pads are part of the logistics network. If inserters are too low throughput you can use bots

> Factorio 2.0.44
> Minor Features:
> - Tall tooltips when attached to the right side of the screen can be scrolled (by default shift + scroll).
>
> -- https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=128050

Yes! yes!
Fucking finally!
YES!

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>>521254838
I read that but it only just sunk in what that actually means...

I'll finally be able to see all my fucking circuit signals on a supply-demand circuit...

>>521254838
>minor feature
humble devs making humble patch notes

>>521254030
>bots to deliver a constant stream of thousands of resources
ewwwwwwwww

I am a belt man anon. I deliver everything worth shit through belts. And trains.

also, this is aquilo and bots are slow and need to recharge a lot. Devs didn't want you to use bots in aquilo, but at the same time, leave the player with less space for inserters around the landing pad, because of heatpipes, go figure.

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>>521254030
>>521255321
Thankfully Kovarex improved bot logic to account for this... right? That's a thing that actually happened?

>>521255321
You could park a couple cargo wagons next to the hub and get some extra space for inserters. In theory you could just keep adding more layers of cargo wagons forever.

>>521255483
They were actually stealth-nerfed to have 5x longer charge time at roboports.

>>521255760
Oh wait that wouldn't help at all because you still only get 6 inserters in the first layer. I'm a big dumb idiot.

>>521254838
Furthermore:
> - Atomic bomb now blasts planet-appropriate holes into the terrain of the planet if the terrain is floating on a fluid: Ammoniacal ocean for Aquilo, Lava for Vulcanus. It also destroys space platform tiles.
Aka, you can use nukes to make impromptu lava lakes right next to your intended manufacturing sites on Vulcanus.

And on another note:
> Added collision-layer out_of_map for out-of-map tiles.
-- which smells like Space Exploration for 2.0 is coming along nicely ...

>>521255964
? Couldn't you have the inserters with multiple different filters feeding into a cargo wagon so you could belt out from the extended space instead of 1 inserter being dedicated to 1 item

>>521256324
>atom bomb
sorry, pretty sure this just means it destroys landfill type tiles. you can't make new lakes on regular land

>>521256503
>if the terrain is floating
sounds like advanced landfill only

>>521256610
let me know when you manage to use regular landfill on vulcanus

>>521254838
>Added equipment grid button to locomotive GUI and removed the popup window
Trains have equipment grids now?

>>521244406
Look at this that way anon, miners use watts, a watt is a joule over 1 second. A piece of coal is worth 4megajoule (that 4 000 000 joules). An unmodified electric drill use 90kilowatts (90 000 watts). So a drill can run for 44.444 seconds with a single piece of coal. It mines at a rate of 1 coal every 2 seconds. So 22.222 coal per coal used. That is the base cost and production. So you get 21.22222 coal after removing the coal you use to power the drill.
If you use a productivity module, you will now use 126 kilowatts (126 000 watts), which means that your drill will only last 31.746 seconds. But you will get 4% more coal during this time. For a production of 16.5 coal per coal used. Or 15.5 coal after removing the coal used to power the drill. But what about legendary prod 3? I'll skip the math, 15.432 produced, 14.432 after cost.

Conclusion: You're always consuming more than you produce by doing that. Unless you also use efficiency.
Research makes that even worse because modules stack additively with research so the relative increase gets smaller.
I know I forgot to account for the speed penalty but I only remembered about it right after writing the previous spoiler and I'm not rewriting the entire post for that, it makes the entire result even worse by reducing the production speed without reducing the watt usage. Don't use prod on miners, speed and efficiency are the only modules worth using on them.

i didnt even know you could have prod on miners, is that a 2.0 thing?

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yep you can make custom lava holes now

>>521257847
Those small demolishers never saw THIS comin'!
YEE-HAW!
>Makes an uncompletable vulcanus map

>>521257335
no I remember using it in overhauls when I was too lazy to get another patch. Its 100% useless on coal but works perfectly fine for any other material

>>521257847
But can you make custom holes if your platform now?

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>>521257964
yeah about that
they just get straight up deleted

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>>521256405
Yes, but those first inserters with filters also have a limit of how much they can move/s right? You can add more types of resources and have more balance, but in the end, there is a limit.

>>521256970
Shut up nerd

>>521257335
nah, it's just not very efficient so nobody does it. modules stack unfavorably with mining prod research so it takes an unreasonably long time for the modules to pay for themselves. If you have infinite power and you've already put prod modules in basically everything else that can accept them you might as well put them in miners if you plan to play long enough to mine the patch out. But outside of fully-optimized-late-game-megabases it's just not worth the effort

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>>521259194
big ones too

>>521259194
yeah I'm thinking [assigned: kovarex] [status: won't fix]

>>521259194
>>521259485
kek

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>>521259194
>>521259485
I'm hearing that 'cutoff scream with reverb' in my head

>>521207753
The maximum number of items on the input line in this image is 50.4/3 = 16.8 items/minute

Any further comments regarding the usage of lower tier belts? Like, why should I?

also a slower belt would mean more uptime on radioactive material which is what this system is built to minimize, but I mean in general

Alright so I have a post-ending but pre-promethium save of space age, every planet needs a complete rework except Vulcanus which handles most of everything right now. I have a bunch of the unique buildings stockpilled, which planet should I start with? I'm thinking Nauvis since it literally doesn't have production at all due to a metal shortage but Gleba could get me legendary productivity modules which would be neat.
Opinion /egg/?

>>521259485
>>521259194
EARENDELLLLLLLL

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this is so retarded is not even funny

>>521260529
surely mods will fix it

>>521260073
trash planet

>>521260073
Nauvis only exists for using the science labs, make everything else on Vulcanus, and only make the unique sciences on their respective planets, then ship all science to Nauvis for the labs.

I can't for the life of me find the way to blueprint trains. I'm almost sure that this was added in 2.0.

>>521273443
There's a toggle in the blueprint finalizing screen to include trains and train stops in the blueprint.

>>521273443
>I'm almost sure that this was added in 2.0.
It wasn't, though they did add stuff to it

>>521273558
I found it. Thanks, I was actually using copy-paste instead of blueprinting by mistake.

>>521256864
Wube is one of the few devs I know of that fix bugs that only manifest in mods. Trains do not have equipment grids in vanilla, but they can be given them by mods.

That "small spidertron" fix a couple versions ago was also for modded. As was a bugfix relating to train pathfinding causing lag with super jacked up superspeed trains fuelled with jacked up speed-boosting fuel.

Wow incredible, even with just foundries, tier 2 modules and beacons, I can multiply my metal production by 10, not even accounting for the cheaper recipes.

>>521273443
>>521275581
Yeah I can blueprint trains in 1.1, I think they just made it better.

>>521279339
Yeah. You can do shit like blueprint trains to have bots automagically deliver fuel and if you blueprinted stops or a train category it'll automatically switch to auto once it gets all the blueprinted fuel

Shit is so great. If you make a purely generic network you can just smear some trains over some one-way rails to instantly add more trains to your network with literally zero setup

I love grinding mice into souplike homogenate

>>521281712
do you clean the mice before or after processing?

>>521207753
The game works the same way as DSP; once you can build the latest belt type you switch over permanently for all use cases just because its easier and produced in huge amounts. There is never a reason to use lower tier belts except for continuing to use legacy blueprints as production branches. Mark 6 belts are also very nice and thin and can work as nighttime lighting.

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>>521281869
nah they go in shit n all

>>521283415
One of my regrets I'm just not autistic enough to get much past Py1 is I won't get to toss rats in a meatgrinder or deal with pipes full of blood

Turns out making train bases is not hard at all. You just need to give yourself 5 times more space than you actually need and make 2 very long lines shared by all trains. Trains are smart, they can handle parking and waiting in loading bays and when to leave by themselves.

Anyone else ever think it strange that there's a whole other research specifically for fluid wagons when the first train most players will make are for carrying crude? And the research ONLY unlocks fluid wagons

>>521285556
I never even realized that this was a separate research desu. I've done trains this early in a run.

>>521032279
dont sloop the accelerator, sloop the copper powder. It's 1 S per crusher. You probably have a billion empty cubes at that point, manually fill a crate and it'll last to endgame.

>>521291482
I had exactly enough at the time for the pasta for the 4rh phase.
Also had the electricity to spare.

Genreally speaking, it is probably more efficient to double the input ores than to sloop, but I had spare electricity, not spare ores.

can you recreate your spaceship in blender?

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>>521283181
I usually stop at mk5 because they're enough for almost everything and aluminum is easier to make crapload of than whatever mk6 is made from. Also by the time you unlock mk6 and get enough ficsite nonsense going most of the high throughput parts of the factory are already up and running on earlier belts so unless you like to rebuild things for no reason (or just build everything on demand with no planning) you barely have any use for it.

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>>521009507 (OP)
Anybody here got their eye on Space Engineers 2? I'm so incredibly disappointed in it and it pisses me off how the fanboys just gobble up the slop facelift that it is.

>Max speed increased from 100m/s to 300m/s while modded servers successfully had 3km/s.
>No orbits, even simplified ones as would befit the game.
>Almost exactly the same analog blocks. The steepest slope possible to build being 2x1.
>Zero mention of fixing longstanding issues such as completely invulnerable safezones shutting down world pvp, lone jetpack suicide assaults being able to dodge 40 auto turrets and do damage, and the abysmally low amount of items and content.

Early access is early access but god damn.

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>you can beat the final space age trip with just a bunch of walls

>>521298551
?????
Time crystals can be processed in two steps from coal alone. Trigons are made from SAM and any iron, caterium or aluminum source. You go anywhere there is SAM and there's likely an iron node or three within walking distance.