>Dawn of the Hunt Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3740562>>[PoE2 News]>Patch 0.2 Dawn of the Hunt [Live April 4th]https://pathofexile2.com/hunt>Patch 0.2 Teasershttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3726160>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>>[PoE1 News]>Legacy of Phrecia Eventhttps://www.pathofexile.com/phrecia>Event Extended 1 month - Patch 3.26 set for Junehttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3731967>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>>Wikihttps://www.poewiki.nethttps://www.poe2wiki.net>>Game Databasehttps://poedb.twhttps://poe2db.tw>>Ingame Chat Channel/global 1488>Stash Tab Priority (for newfags)https://rentry.co/5e8zgg8kprevious: >>521026919
Hi
POE2 still bad
It's so poever.
>just buy from the vendor bro>the humble vendor in question selling only whites and 2 shitty magic items that have accuracy mods
>>521045306>make poe1>make poe2>kill poe1>kill poe2WHATS THE FUCKING POINT
Big Fat Retard will finish what Bald Fucking Retard started
>>521045306KING JON
https://www.twitch.tv/zizaran/clip/StylishTameCarrotBCouch-ZJWzF5OpTtJ4kqn8
>>521045406>tfw unironically wore emerald ring on my 'tress because it actually benefits her
Wyatt won.
>>521045478How is he wrong?>NOOO THE GAME HAS TO BE LIKE ALL THE OTHER GENERIC ARPGS OR IT'S NOT FUN!>I DON'T WANT CHALLENGE!
i didnt watch the interviewtell me what i think of it
>>521045406>accuracy modsso BiS gear for Amazon, very nice, congrats on the lucky find
>>521045531There's no fucking challenge if fighting a swarm of retarded white mobs, you cock gobbling shill
>>521045431>MARK OPEN YOUR EYES HE IS KILLING POE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
I have ascended
>>521045534you're feeling hungry
Lightning spearvoltmartial tempprimal armanent (what should i put here? fork?)
>>521045306Shut up, I would like to finish
>>521045587>mobs are too dangerous and too fast please nerf>noooo it's not actually challenging and the reason I keep dying it because... I just do ok!?
>killed trial boss>about to ascend>DC'd>reset
>>521045645Yes, get the fork and stick it into an electrical outlet
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FIX THE FUCKING SERVERS
>>521045686only retards die to fucking wolves in grelwoodthe only actually retarded mobs are the vaal, faaridun and the cultist crackheads which are overtuned and tedious to fight
Servers shitting themselfs again.At least make it so that i can suffer your shit game in peace GGG. At least do 1 thing right you fucking hacks
>>521045534Close your eyes and picture Troonathan having a pants sharting meltdown because nobody has ever told him his game sucks
>>521045645Replace tempo with fork. If you actually need to throw more than one spear you're fucking something up.
>>521045678
>>521045645ForkExplosive spearExpediteOverabundanceStorm lance
>>521045803i have 1 extra slot if i replace tempo>>521045831im using ES and SL for bossing but thanks for that
>>521045761>the only actually retarded mobs are the vaal, faaridun and the cultist crackheads which are overtuned and tedious to fightIronic that the new Parry shields are really good against all those three enemy types. Utzaal was a comfy breeze with Huntress compared to Warrior. Constant easy stream of Frenzy Charges.
>>521045686>you must have a second keyboard for all the skills you need to press to CO CO CO COMBOOO every single white packOkay, so about the mons->the monsters run at a bajillion miles an hour and bite you until you die>no, you will not be able to CO CO CO COMBOOO because you'll be constantly staggered and interrupted during this entire engagement
poop2 is shit
>>521045678I FUCKING GOT YOUyou are making his face slightly fatter each time you post it.
the vendors do seem to have a supply problem with how they never change their stock. clearly the demonic alchemical gremlins are asleep at the wheel.
>how long did it take you to finish the campaign, john?>ackshually i never finished 0.2the absolute state
I feel a mighty need to paypig
>>521045531The game isn't hard. No one thinks PoE2 is hard, not a single person. The game is simply clunky and bad. It's 'hard' for bad reasons. Combat gameplay feel is just awful, player speed and mobility feels shit, the pacing is horrid enemies suck, items suck, nothing but the music is any good, even the visuals are already dated imo, doesn't look any better than D4 to me.People wanted PoE2 to be 'slowed down' that was what people were the most hyped about, literally every comment on every leadup trailer to PoE2 was how satisfyingly paced it was, how the combat looked more meaningful. People expected this to be the game. That you would fight more meaningful mobs that were more interesting and get good rewards. Instead you just kill waves and waves of white mobs that drop nothing, are boring, your engaging with them in a boring way constantly performing the same dumb combo over and over to "outplay" completely retarded sponge enemies that do not think and only run forward.It doesn't feel fun to combo on something unless that thing is engaging and can think. It's fun to play chess and outplay someones thinking, it's fun to outplay and outstyle a boss in DMC.Having to perform the combo recipe just to dispatch brainless trash that has inflated health pools is unfun. The entire game should be like Act1 where there's fewer enemies and more miniboss/bosses in zones, the combat doesn't revolve around a unique/rare mob and a fucking crowd of bullshit alongside them.
THEY FIXED *EVERYTHING+LOG. IN.
>>521046025>doesn't write a single line of code>tests the game only when he gets home (LMAO)>has not played 0.2>has never used the recombinator
>>521045306Oyabun... I kneel
>>521045817DON'T WORRY JONI WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU AND GGG
>>521046090>even the visuals are already dated imo, doesn't look any better than D4 to me.Well you got me reading until that point.
>>521046072>Chewing gum chainmailretarded devs still can't into graphics properly, I thought this shit was solved science
>>521046223the chainmail is take it or leave it but god dang I gotta have those crossbows
>>521045645Yeah Fork fucks once you have enough damage No idea what to put on sixth though
>>521046178Unironically what does he do all day?
>>521046217Did I fucking stutter? Look at the damn character models between the two games PoE2 characters look like a 360 game comparedPoE2 still has that flat grid based look of PoE1 whereas D4 feels more organic like you're actually changing topography and going up hill and over cliffs and shit.
Is Chris actually dead?
Jonathan?wonFuture Jonathan?keeps winning
reminder poe1 died for this
>>521046357Probably just sits on a couch eating tacos talking about meaningless shit all day being beurocratic brick wall in everyone's wayI get the impression that chris, mark etc, these guys aren't actually doing much with the game
>>521046405He’s mid transition. Gender reveal soon
>>521046178>creates a video game company with friends straight out of college>gets to make his dream game with total creative control (outside of arguing with his d2 friends)>game is fantastic. wildly appreciated. spiritual successor to diablo 2. the actual creators of diablo 2 tell you so>make millions and millions of dollars>barely like 40 years oldnot much of an argument, but man straight out of college hasnt been that great for me. got friends that tried to get into the industry and crashed out. and never mind the people who do make it in but hve to make concord and have to take hr bullshit and boss bullshit. jon is right on top. what a life, man. what a life
>>521046371>whereas D4 feels more organic
>>521046405Chris has teamed up with michaelzaki and is going to make a japan developed arpg that is the true vision all along
>>521046371i like the graphics of d4, they are much more grounded in reality.
>>521046513>Wow what if we just steal this other game and remake it WOOOOW we successful now with barely 200k players peak for a free game holy mooooly talk about winninglmaodude GGG is still small time
>Here are your interesting poe2 notables bro
>>521046674I can feel the cast speed loss. That's meaningful.
>>521046562he’s right though, there’s a lot of verticality in D4’s overworld and it’s very impressive how seamless that isI don’t admire the aesthetic very much but technically it is very impressive. you’re probably brown though and playing on a toaster
>>521046648Literally, objectively one of the biggest games on Steam
>expedition stash removed just so they can sell it laterREEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>521046348whats your other 4? same as mine?
>>521046648>lmaodude GGG is still small timei mean even that's not bad. what you want to run a company with six thousand people in it? you think todd is having a good time anymore? and what difference does it make anyway? oh no he could have made tens of millions instead of millions. i'll take jonathon's small time, man. put me in
THE VISIONhttps://youtu.be/yZ8PGUQcTVE?t=17
>>521046752>I don’t admire the aesthetic very much but technically it is very impressive.
>>521046752>seamlessthere was nothing seamless about the druid fortress area>run and climb here>ok now climb here>climb back up fag>now up there>take the rope to get here
Reality of poe 2's future
>charge barrage>throw spear>it fucking fumbles 45° away or flies over the mob's head because it was 10cm below the player character elevation
>>521046861oh no he’s posting jak’sit’s overR E T A R D
dropping a big ol poe2 in the toilet rn
>>521046895>alk dead>ziz ran(heh)looks good to me
>Im fixing everything TODAY>ok very nice mark ty sm>go to bed>wake up>not even a hotfix let alone patchit appears I have been tricked
>>521046895can i get this but with infernalist flashing her cooch
>>521046881you can be at any elevation and watch other players performing those actionsI don’t think you understand words, probably ESL
>>521046743Here have another one (keep in mind Armour break currently removes all Armour).
Troonathan
>>521045306https://youtu.be/0ccXrulWOc0?feature=shared&t=1488hes right.you literally cant refute this.
>>521046178>doesn't write a single line of codeI don't know if he wrote anything on poe2 but he was a senior dev on poe1. Apparently he's the guy who fixed desync.
>>521046770Do you realise it also means mechanics will be buffed? POG
>>521045937the solution is to get more stun threshold BTW
>>521047060Did Quin react to this video?
>>521047069so why is he GAME director and not technical director?
>>521047060literal who no really literal WHO
>>521047060>rant is about sucking dick
>>521047018>wow that guy clicked the wall and is stuck in the climbing animation
>>521046895lmao excellent
https://www.twitch.tv/avoidingthepuddle/clip/ShakingObservantBasenjiSaltBae-OwsvvWuEwqqltu33TRVTH
>>521047129>just tank the quadrilion instances of damage coming up your ass, broFunny how the mobs are allowed one-button builds and have 2,000 movespeed.
>>521047159Probably because it ended up being his project one way or another. Do you think Chris Wilson was a trained game designer?
>>521047060I hate this aids cholo but he's right
>>521046674HOLY FVARK JONATHON THIS IS SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN POOP 1S MASTERIES
>>521046919/lgbt/ lost
>>521046674Masteries bad, too interesting and build defining.-damage on my +damage node? Real shit!
>>521045496> tfw still waiting for light radius to become OP
>>521047032Assuming that's new to 0.2 then it's just boosting the 20% increased phys damage taken by fully broken enemies.
>>521047315Holy FUCKING shit that looks BORING as SHIT.Now, look at this fucking notable, now that's interesting and meaningful.
>>521047391RF
>>521047176https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H682JY9v-Mthe devs love aris
>>521047427is this real
>open rare armor box in logbook>a single pair of white boots dropI dont know why I expected anything else
Why is ranger the only character allowed to go fast, and how come hexblast got nerfed while rangers can press one button to blow up the entire screen and bosses?
>>521047060this guy who barely plays poe points out the highest level understanding of the situation:>you are paying to be an employee working on an unfinished game>poe1, a good game, died for this messmeanwhile people whose job it is to talk about poe:>I feel bad when I click on a well and I am going to cry until I no longer have to click it
It's OVER
>>521047391Mexican Paladin with Light Radius mechanics not until 1.0
>>521047460Bottom of the tree, slightly east of Merc start.
we could've had it all but troonathan let us down
>>521047476if logbooks don’t contain the boss i leave them immediately
>>521046913happens with every single projectile ability in the game for some reason lmao
>>521047032it should affect the damage boost
>You're never under any flask effectHOLY SHIT THIS IS SO MEANINGFUL
>>521047427>25% chance for your poop toss skill to morph into piss on a sunday afternoon if you threw it less than 3 meters
Guys i quit playing way back when they added new tower maps and suchI heard the update is a shitshow do i jump in now or is it safe to just skip this one until the next reset/unfuckening
>>521045306Poe2 will never have>build customization>cross archetype skills>guard skills>vaal skills>the ability to pick your damage ability vs clear ability will be up to the devs>you will never be faster>your support gems will be retarded and never level never have resale value>uniques will always be dogshit>items will never feel powerful and interesting>you will never become the final end boss of the game This game is actually for retards. Literally a game made by a spiteful dungeonmaster so he wins instead of the player
>>521047667CALM DOWN ANON this will be useful in 4 years when we can have at least 4k life and they finally add in the flask recovery rate wheel
What the FUCK do they mean ? This shit feels so nonsensical that I could have come up with it in a fucking dream.Are they saying that at the top end this support gives 12% increased damage??? except they are too retarded to implement this part so it will only prevent charges from being consumed now?>the core of the design of the support is an important tool to get into the hands of playersare they genuinely kidding? I am fucking baffled
>>521046913>>521047626that’s one of the reason i won’t play javelin. too much incentive on empowering a good throw. that shit isn’t an issue when you’re dumping clips of galvanic shards all over everything
>>521045531He's wrong because he is lying and only plays acts
>>521047756>your support gems will be retarded and never level never have resale valueSpeaking of retarded.
>>521047667when you press the flask and hp goes slowly up you are under a flask effect. i swear to god you poe 1 shitters dont even play the game
>>521047813>too retarded to implement this part so it will only prevent charges from being consumed now?that seems to be the caseso i think you keep the charges you just dont gain extra damage from doing so>cant spend them>cant use them>you simply have them
poop2 will never be good so if you're ok with that, jump in
>>521045534I watched for 5 minutes when I realized it's pointless. I'll just wait for more buffs and start a new toon.
>>521047709it’s only a shitshow in the sense that it’s the exact same game except some stuff got buffed and stupidly busted stuff got nerfed
>>521047315the problem Jon has with masteries is that you can take them from anywhere, its not WHAT they do. so 1) everyone just takes the best one, and 2) they can't be made that mechanically powerful. >>521047427pierce is literally 50% more damage with the same attack bro (it just has to hit a second monster)
>>521045531>NOOO THE GAME HAS TO BE LIKE ALL THE OTHER GENERIC ARPGS OR IT'S NOT FUN!Yes. Arpg is solved genre, all you need is to polish and perfect it (that's what poe1 did), not reinvent the wheel and throw the chunks of other genres (souls cancer and rogue like shit) in without any back thought.
>>521047813it makes a little sense, maybe you want to save your charges for skill B so you put this on skill A so it never wastes your charges
>>521047667if you didn't want to use it normally couldn't you use that on lich? considering your life doesn't move it's just free 40% inc dmg
>>521047756>cross archetype skillsDo you mean like marks (can be cast with any weapon) or do you mean off-weapon classes (e.g. bow amazon, which is definitely a thing)?
deadeye wouldnt work with this one, right?
>>521045686It's like an mmo where mobs just endlessly tether to you so you have the constant busy work of walking this giant zone and having to swap little chihuahuas nipping at you. It's just annoying gameplay. Monsters should have a sprint or leap they shouldn't always be faster
>>521047948it's for comboing with specific skills. for example instead of using your frenzy charges on your lightning spear you save them up and use them on a big barrage.
>>521047813The point of the gem is to prevent charge consumption to enable certain combos, like with Barrage into another frenzy spender.The 4% per charge type is retardedly low but is just a bonus, they just want to ship it out asap just for the core function.
>>521047892And why would I ever waste points at the very least 3 points to get 40% inc dmg for like one second and only after I have taken damage at the cost of a flask use?What do you think the average % inc dmg of this node is in actual gameplay even if you try to abuse it? Like 5% inc damage? Literally the small nodes leading up to it are more valuable.
>>521047485warrior is the best speedrunner in the game anon why are you so behind the times.
>'I-if the player is faster than the monsters then players would just run past all the monsters'>Run past every monster and go into maps as a level 1 naked>MFW
>>521047892Poe1 chads understand what it does but they also understand how weak it is, unlike you poo2 sissies.
>>521048074i dont even play poe2, but do charges not give passive effects like in poe1?
>>521048041I'm actually not sure if it does anything if you use it on Lich while having ES.Then again, it's worthless because it's on the other end of the tree from where Lich has to start kek.
If the monsters dropped anything players wouldn't run past them.
>>521048090skill issue. people who know how to play have 100% uptime
>>521048262Post clip of you having 100% flask uptime while mapping or killing any boss that you don't just blatantly outgear. (You won't)
FUARK
>>521048090nta but in 0.1, there was a notable that gave something like 50% crit dmg during flask effect.I used it for my Snipe + Barrage nuke combo, I'd hit my mana flask as it was charging up (since Snipe would drain it a fair bit).Hell I'd take that new node if it's near me for the same combo.
FIX YOUR FUCKING SERVERS GOD DAMN
TO THE MOON
>>521047990>the problem Jon has with masteries is that you can take them from anywhere, its not WHAT they do.No he also said it also makes the final node have to be designed in a lacklustre way please rewatch the interview
>>521047485im gonna make a grenadier zon and she’s gonna go fast, or maybe ritualist, need more gear firstbut also it’s because ranger is the bomb always was always will
>>521048164>warrior is the best speedrunner in the gameshield charge carries the shit out of the class
>>521048405That's actually a semi good node which is why I specifically posted the 40% inc ele dmg one, even if you can make use of it... it's still not even worth the effort.
>>521046674We really wouldn't want to diminish the meaningfullness of those by adding in masteries
I BEG OF YOU
>>521046001they change it piecemeal at you level. they should always have some of the most updated bases, so when I hit level 4 I always go by the second health flask size before going to Red Vale.
Gonna rewatch that troonathan meltdown
>>521048178A new player might unexpectedly run all the way to act 3 and repeatedly die on doryani with no way to fix this we can't allow potential mental retards from doing this
>>521048490Yeah I just noticed that it's elem damage only, fuck that.
>rollback conveniently deletes my logbook AND all the items I picked up in itnice one
>>521048490they are obviously designed for pathfinder that gets to keep flasks even at full life
Is there a single thing working properly in this shit game
we can't put life on the tree because you would click on it and then not die randomly which is the entire point of poe2
>>521048079>like with BarrageOnly with Barrage. They are really set on their gay charge minigame that the majority of players does not want to play.
>12% chance to be meaningful
>>521048489if only it were possible for other classes to use shield charge! but it takes 16 strength! 16!
there are no disconnects during American hoursnon Yanks gettin shat upon
>>521048590your fault for playing a game developed by inbred retard kiwiniggers
>>521048448>kill boss>drops decent loot>get disconnected just as I've finished looting>reconnect>rolled back to checkpoint with no loot and boss is alive again>kill boss again>get shit lootYeah I'm done playing until they fix this shit
>>521047709Skip it and don't listen to an obvious shill shithead here >>521047971
>>521048651> DisgustYeah.> Would be most usefult with comet.> Comet is not a projectile.
>>521047060This fat lispy retard doesn't even play the game. You spergy souls retards don't belong here
>not a league btw
>>521047709The endgame is drastically improved, you maybe do 1 tower every 20 maps and they have some of the best layouts now. They added an Elder/Shaper influence type system.If you didn't struggle with the campaign on launch then you will be fine, it's mostly reddit casuals crying about the following subjects.>Bosses are too hard (lul)>I don't have any regal orbs, am I disenchanting my gear to get regal orb shards? no.>I don't have any gold to respec, because I used all my gold on gambling items, this is YOUR fault and not mine.>Other people are better at the game than me and it makes me insecure.
>>521048757it's made for ember fusillade.
>>521048665howdy pardner, I am a Texan as of monday
When did they add trinity? and is it as good as poe1?
you don't seriously buy lootboxes in poop of excrement 2, right??
>>521048809>the game is early access>spends half the artist time making gay cosmetics instead of new classes/actswew lad
im getting filtered by jamantrahow the fuck are you supposed to kill him as meleemy attack deal less than 1% of his health and have like 0% uptime on him because of all the fucking stupid tornados
>>521048883poo2
>>521048605Idk then add it to pathfinder or something, that shit being on the tree is just silly when every other ascendancy can't realistically make use of it and with Pathfinder flask gen being nerfed I'm not sure if they even have 100% uptime.
>>521048862It's bugged atm and doesn't work.
>>521048840Makes sense. Shame the skill feels bad to use.
did zizaran ask about 3.26
>>521048946fucking hellaw
>>521048830damn she looks so gnarly with ghat crossbowgonna cave and go piggie mode
>>521048651I'm fine with this one honestly it's rng but it's not rng tied with another conditional I think the payoff should be higher like 3 proj thoughbeit
>>521048883I spent like $100 worth of points on poe 2 lootboxes, does that upset you?
>>521048470*from
>>521048854>*tips Stetson and nods*
>>521048937for bosses most warriors use either perfect strike to nuke them or some kind of semi-ranged ability to give more positional options or both. there are too many with zoning abilities to be a purist.
>>521048937Get regen (or damage). That fight took me like 15 minutes on my first character because I didn't read about the damage conversion changes. You can slog through it if you don't rely on flask charges to sustain his shitty attacks.
>>521048656stomping ground is like 70% of what makes it broken. plus weapon swapping to a shield ain't free, and 16 strength might be trivial but it ain't free either.
gambleshot or fork for lightning spear? >>521049082im thinking of dropping my 600 points on it i like a lot of the stuff
>>521048987Yes, so far its on sequel for release at the end of May. (Pending unforeseeable Issues)
>>521049082based pigmaxed slayer of squealers
>>521049082Noone feels upset when retards act retarded. Maybe pity on a good day
>>521049065It just seems too inconsistent to ever actually take it, pretty sure even when it was busted the Sparkfags didn't take this node and they actually could expect to get value out of it whenever it procced.
>>521048978I think it's a boss nuking ability that superficially resembles a clearing ability. even though it has an aoe its tiny. put conc effect on it and use it on one target.
>>521049247Nta but i feel good about supporting the games i like.
>>521049247that must be why your posts aren't upsetting ;)
Lol?
>>521049169most of speedrunning is just going fast, and its faster than just walking to maps, especially fit with Ingenuity. used it this league as a ranger, and I try to get it asap
are poe2 mystery boxes also in poe1?
>>521049495>complete a tier 2+ corrupted nexusshame you didn't get it in a 6 mod tier 15but on the other hand gold is literally worthless, I'd just spam all I have on it no matter what.
>>521049495If that's multiplicative/exponential every time it's opened then that's redardedly expensive past the first 1 or 2 tries.
>>521048651>>521048757>>521048840>ember fusillade.Damn, those extra spell proj nodes are actually golden for bonestorm, i should get them.
>>521049682>drops a level 20 gem in a tier 2 mapthat's basically the equivalent of GGG's loot generator cooming itself, just in a way that happens to not be immediately useful for that character.
POE2 = BAD
>>521048690Try switching to a different server. Worked wonders for me.
>>521048262my dick has 100% uptime in ur mom's gash
I want to play fuck being a wagie.
>>521049176>gambleshot or fork for lightning spear?anyone? i ask because it takes away less damage than fork
>>521049906>Try switching to a different server. Worked wonders for me.Yes, at different times different servers are just shitting themselves. Sometimes 2 servesrs lag but the third works fine.
t-thanks rog...
>>521049874HOLY
>>521050082If you're in maps does losing a bit more damage really matter when you'reone shotting every pack?
>>521045306Question, can I capture the Ninth Treasure of Keth? It's got rare beast lettering but it's distinct, so I'm not sure.
>>521050161im in act 2 cruel lol
are the map fixes in yet?
>>521050142Rog is NOT pog in poop2 well they're all rog now so they're all not pog except gwennen who's better
>>521047876How was I wrong?
>>521050207let us know
I don't think theres anything wrong with liking current PoE2 but if you think Jonathan deserves the director spot you're a fucking moron. He is obviously the typical ideas-guy who does a lot of shit because he wants to and because he can without ever thinking if he actually should. Thank fuck Mark is there for now.
>>521050271turbohud is in
>>521047892>40% increase with 5% uptimePoo2 is doomed because its cultists are retarded
Troonathan lied. Poe died.
I wanna try spear but I don't want to play amazon, is it over?
>>521050594Spear Lich
i fucking love state of endgame rnendgame is rly good, i really love the lower rare droprate, cause i actually go and identify every single onei also love how I actually have combo skills as monk, before just getting to maps you could explode everything, now you actually have to stack different buffs in order to be efficient, and THEN you explode mapsi love the difficulty of pinnacle bosses rn, it feels perfectthe only thing i dont like, i played the campaign over 20 times last season and rn its slog, i do hope they improve the areas and increase droprate in the campaign, but other than that, and wisps being complete shit, i hope they dont cave to r*ddit and casualize the game to the point where just getting to maps lets you skip straight to T15 again on fresh character
>>521047709The game is and probably will remain in a completely irredeemable shit state because the main designer, Jonathan, is a completely tone deaf defensive retard who doesn't understand the game at a fundamental level and designs it based on his act 1 playthroughs. He wants the entire game to play like act1 or it isn't fun to him. His words
>>521050594It was over before it started
>>521050594invoker, smith of kitava, bloodmage loads of options
>>521049428>NO UNice comeback
>>521050707bloodmage is not an optionspear monk does sound kind of kino tho
>>521050505I actually liked the interview, gives you an insight how the developer see their own game. Like when he said that they sit weeks on a single boss, and they hate the idea that you just kinda kill it in one second. You can understand why they want the game more Soulslike because you as a gamer should appreciate their work. Which goes back to creator vs consumer.
every spear chucking niggers are running lightning spears, what is the point of other skills?
>>521048656Ironically enough, they coded bucklers as shields for the purpose of block nodes, but not for the use of shield charge. E.g terminal retardation
>>521050760well it is, its just painful at the start
>>521050778Make it so the character doesn't instantly explode when they jump into melee range and you'll see more people willing to interact with the melee skills.
>>521050858>its just painful at the startthat's just the poe2 experience
>>521050778to placehold until everyone gets tired of living their javazon dream
just listened to the ziz interviewholy fuck all these babies crying and shitting themselvesmeanwhile I'm having fun playing ethical melee (rolling slam ignite)
>>521050765They also managed to do that because every boss is every memorable, while in D4 I can't only remember the Lilith fight and the Ubers.
>>521050765Maybe they shouldn't spend weeks on a boss that they know people will blast because it's a blasting game in a blasting genre whether they like it or not. Maybe it wouldn't have taken seven years to get to this point.
>>521050765>gamer should appreciate their workI would appreciate their work more if almost every boss wasn't a fucking DPS race to kill them instantly before they flood the arena with shit or they do their one shot AOE spam
>>521050930>rolling slamhell yeah. tell me more, anon.
>>521050853I mean from the balance POV huntress can get a regular shield in her alt slot like a ranger. also why not let a buckler use all shield skills and vice versa. its because poe is not trying to be a simulationist game.
>>521050974every boss being memorable is one of the best things about the game. gives it a lot of character. plus it’s funny hearing about bads getting shat on and being able to picture the various ways it happens
>>521051001>Maybe the content shouldn't be high quality since this is the low quality genreJFC"The players would prefer a spreadsheet of the loot over the actual loot" - Johnathan Rodgers
>>521050778welcome to the free-thinking and risk-embracing behavior of the ARPG playerbase frenmeanwhile I am absolutely shredding with shockchain arrow, a skill which from the meta's pov may as well not exist.
>>521050594I'm playing deadeye spear
>>521051312if it’s actually good some streamer will make a video about it at some point followed by all the retards screaming how good it is
>>521051001the one-shotting off pinnacle bosses was not intentional at any point. one change of 0.2 that hasn't been reverted is that bosses in general have way more hp now. I can't just walk up and murder Beira then go to the grelwood any more.
>>521051298How is one shot bullethell abilities high quality? If I wanted that I'd play a roguelike where the player has actual mobility, you can't possibly tell me that Arbiter of Cringe is a good fight or that the Wildwood King dude who's name I can't remember is a good designed fight and not a boring mess.
did they implement the changes yet? i don't wanna waste my maps
>>521051443And the goal is still to delete them instantly.
>groundslop back in full power>infinite duration lightning mirages>new blood volatilesPlease go close and parry :)
>>521051407>if it’s actually good some streamer will make a video about itnope, they all talk to each other and agree on what the most OP strat is then play the same thing too.note that I'm not saying Shockchain is GOAT, just that its good, works in SSF and is overlooked.
i think im going to quit poe and instead read and jog in my spare time
>>521051387nta, that was my original plan, wanted to try maxing out the wind serpent skill, but after doing some math it just doesn't measure up to a barrage + snipe combo unless I'm missing something like the shockwave hitting once per serpent (assuming you back the boss up against a wall).
>>521050765I think they're delusional if they think that with a game as complex as this theres ever going to be a patch where there are no builds that don't shit on every boss in one second. The only way they could do that is if they overnerf the shit out of everything and piss off the players in exchange.
>>521051614doesn't the serpent thing crash the game still?
>>521051443There's like a whole three fucking bosses in the end game and their items all suck duck. Maybe they shouldn't spend so much time on shit that sucks? This isn't a game where you beat the "end boss" and quit you fucking retards. You kill it and then you farm it 100 times for drops and character advancement. What is wrong with you assholes. Do you not know what an arpg is?
>>521051503ggg want it to be the players end goal, not their goal over the first weekend.
>>521051443carn deleted Arbiter with 1 hotg on day 1
>>521051596you can read and jog and also play poe, most likely will enhance your outlook greatly
>>521051645Nah they fixed it 1 or 2 patches ago.I need to find some tech like something melee-only for it to even compete with snipe though.
>>521051681problem with poe is that i feel like im doing something wrong if i'm not putting in all of my time. or maybe thats a problem with me.
>>521051646>What is wrong with you assholesTerminal shillogy, along with typical contrarian 4chan syndrome to own the chuds or whatever
>>521051646>their items all suck ducklmao until last friday they were all too OP and people were complaining about having to use them. the cycle continues.>>521051639>The only way they could do that is if they overnerf the shit out of everything and piss off the players in exchange.this is irony, right? because they clearly are willing to do that and have done that.
>I'm having funLiteral tranny buzzwords that mean nothing.
>>521051509I'm not asking anymore anon.Go and parry the puddles.
>>521051646bro getting mad he can’t pull the lever on the slot machine 100 times per minute
>>521051801>people were complaining about having to use themonly retards did that and GGG catered to them because they are just as retarded
>>521046025I didn't watch the interview, this anon is just making shit up right?No way this is real
>>521051614shame they wont touch anything spears because huntress lightning shart is fotm currently
>>521051676exactly and that's fucking retarded. if a person's attitude to GGG making that harder is that they're "taking away fun" then its safe to ignore them.
>>521051816>"Im having fun">Is usually some shitter still in Act 2 (normal)
>>521051801>because they clearly are willing to do that and have done that.They have done it but they've yet to go full retard with the changes they can do.
>>521051847first 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMvTPOTVq4
>>521051841it was a combo. the bosses were too easy to kill, so there were too many of those items in circulation and so they became mandatory. you don't fix one part of the problem you fix all of it. now if necessary GGG can buff the items again slightly later. >>521051864yeah we're in the phase of the league where GGG will just wait rebalance stuff until the next big patch.
>>521051667What does that change? The goal of an arpg is to trivialise content. That's what the genre is for and why anyone plays it. That's the context in which you are designing. If your goal is to make players take it play along and master the fights instead of blowing them to pieces you are fundamentally making the wrong game.Real ARPG design is making stat checks to be beaten, not immersive interpretive dance experiences.
>>521051448>Poe 1 campaign bosses>Stand in place and hit until you win>You win>Poe Pinnacle bosses>Our gameplay snd balance is so broken we literally give up here's a Touhou bullet hell minigame >The POE community: WOW THE EXARCH FIGHT IS AMAZING AND IT'S BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN ANY OTHER ARPGThat's not the flex you think it is.Last league I didn't clear the Arbiter, i had a fairly strong character but i literally couldnt find any fucking strongholds and disconnects/instability killed my t15 map sustain and will to keep going.This time around I'm gonna see for myself but so far, from the little content i watched it looks better than Exarch/Eater.
>>521051993my main problem is that GGG is shit and designing uniques and that their item philosophy is retarded as whole, probably to sell mtx or some shit, god forbid the rare unique items are not actually fucking dogshit
Retard here. Any build out there that can hold my hand to maps? I tried a bleed Amazon and hit a rough patch in act 3. Even if I didn't, I'm not really vibing with the playstyle. I sorta want to try throwing javelins. Will deadeye spear tossing carry me through the acts?
>Controlled Destruction states:>Supported Spells deal 25% more HIT Damage>Works for EDs DoT componentExplain Jonathan.
https://www.twitch.tv/zizaran/clip/ThoughtfulPunchyEggnogPicoMause-OzV5zhQHzSlNbDzA why did he say this to jonathan?
>>521052046>That's not the flex you think it is.What flex? I don't like any Pinnacle PoE bosses, all of them are fucking shit. I only liked Xesht or what'shisface, but that was only until he hit second phase and started spamming hand slams like that's the only gimmick those retarded GGG devs can think of.
>>521052023>The goal of an arpg is to trivialise content.If that's the case, then you beat POE 1 as soon as you start. Pick up your gems, craft a ring - that's it, the game is trivial, enjoy speedrunning the campaign, so you could speedrun the white maps, so you could speedrun the yellows, so you could do reds, so you could so purples
>>521052161Essence Drain Lich, click nodes that say chaos while moving to the north of the tree towards Dark Entries.Then once you have some ES on your gear also click ES nodes on the way like Patient Barrier and Melding/Insightfulness. Congrats you made it to maps.
>>521051847not only he did not play 0.2 he has no idea how long the campaign is overall. considering the campaign havent changed much i doubt he ever finished it, like ever
>>520995095I'm in global but i don't defend it there much--- usually i'm saying that i want to SEXO Asala
Haven’t played this in forever but the Tame beast skill sounds fun, can you stack spirit and get a kickass pet somehow?
Reality of poe 2 developmentJonathon: I want this in my gameMark: Holy shit this seems retarded ok how do I make this tolerable
>>521051312All lightning skills are good. Every form of ranged ability is op in this game you are not creative
is the tier thing just an ilvl indicator?
>>521052247as hard as it is to believe, this is what poowunners like
>see cool build>it literally doesn't work without certain uniquesI've come to realize uniques are terribly unfun game design, locking entire builds behind rng or trading with chinese bug bots.
>>521051676>>521051897>giving a shit about base arbiter
It's so fucking over.I'm the only one online in a 40-players guildOnly 4 out of 53 friends are onlineMy aurabot got filtered by act1 and two my best friends dropped the league after 3 in a row disconnects in sanctum
>>521052023the context of in which they're designing is that a large amount of the arpg playerbase has no self-awareness and would do the following if they could:a) nerf content until they can breeze through it to whatever point they think is "the real game" b) hit the tiniest snag and complain publicly about the game they asked for being badc) permanently quit.its happened repeatedly.
>>521051197What the fuck is a "simulationist" game?
>>521052372tier 2 means it only rolls t2+ mods
>>521052334It's become pretty meta. At the very minimum a pet represents 20% more damage through "All damage shocks" that Pets can have.
>>521052372it has some mods that are higher tier rolls. in a perfect world at least, in practice it's kind of meh. worth the wisdom scroll either way, might get lucky.
This might not be the worst general on the board but its by far the most retard-filled.I think we have a huge overlap with r*ddit
>>521052272Awesome, thanks man. I'll give it a go.
>Lootbox videooof
>>521052398thats the entire point of uniques. they are "build enabling" for a reason
>>521046025>Makes game that he personally enjoys>Doesn't play itWhat did jonno mean by this?
reminder that poe1 HC SSF streamers literally complained about the Mud Flats being too hard.
>>521051509This is meaningful combat saarr. Please you will wait out the 5 secon timer to begin the walking again
>>521052552inviting modern gamers to poe2 was a mistake. should have been a pet project for appreciators to enjoy.
>>521045306Why can't fat kiwi make proper upward difficulty scaling during leveling, starting from moderately easy at Act1 Normal to moderately hard at Act 3 Cruel, like every other arpg do? They make leveling feel fucking weird.
>>521052618Rhoas are literally more fear inducing than anything else in act 1 with skeleton mages in act 2+ being the 2nd most
>>521052023>The goal of an arpg is to trivialise content.lol nope the goal is to make a fun challenging game with many different play styles.
>>521052618I still don't understand this. >side step the charges>don't break the fucking nest that states it enrages rhoas while you are surrounded by rhoasIt's so easy yet it still has the most deaths out of any zone in the game
>>521052464its a game where stuff works according to an attempt to model IRL chess is non-simulationistflight simulators (lol) are simulationist. expecting bucklers to be able to use shield skills presupposes that physics is relevant to how skills work in PoE2. but everything in the game is about mechanics.
Jonathan won
>>521046895Kino
>>521052540This is the tree I went with anon, good luck.
>>521052618It's literally the only hard part of the campaign. What else is there? Running circles around Piety? Don't standing in Doedre's curses?
>>521051897>if a person's attitude to GGG making that harder is that they're "taking away fun" then its safe to ignore themBut I'm a hardcore player, I cant die, your game isn't allowed to kill me
>9 out of 10 strongboxes have freeze
>>521052536>I think we have a huge overlap with r*dditI've seen some of the gear people post that they use and i can only assume that they're retarded
>>521052705>starting from moderately easy at Act1 Normalthis is an interesting one actually.Jonathan isn't a speedrunner. he pretty obviously wants us to actually fight monsters at least from Clearfel, instead of just running past them and getting waypoints. if you fight X number of monsters per level it takes longer but the game is immediately not challenging. whereas if you grab Contagion and Frost Bomb and run straight to the Grelwood its actually quite scary even with those skills making sure you probably survive. you can even meet rare wolf packs there which I don't remember in 0.1.
>>521052926your antifreeze charm?
>>521052742>many different play stylesSo far you've achieved two, Johnathan - rolll spam between attacks for melee and button down into keyboard screen clear for ranged. Congrats, idiot.
AYO THIS NIGGA DOESNT HAVE FREEZE IMMUNITY!
>>521052819How about Jonathan sign up for some speaking lessons.
>>521052775its because they want to just ignore the monsters and run to the next level ASAP. its all about gotta go fast, which GGG have decided to treat as a problem that they need to force the playerbase to unlearn.
>>521052618>Mud Flats being too hardThe freeze dude and Mervail are the hardest bosses in POE, except for Pinnacles. And they are only hard because at that point you don't have a functioning build.The shitters are havung the same exact problem with Geonore and Jamanra.
this aint too bad is it
jonathan should shave his head for the 0.3 reveal stream
>>521053105great campaigning piece
>>521053042>How about Jonathan sign up for some speaking lessonsId rather we worked on the fucking game.
>>521053104I remember trying out hardcore for a bit and dying to the freezing dude. Good times.
>>521053105Charms are shitRitualist charms are ok but headslot loss is kinda shitThis is going to end up even worse when we get base 3 charm slots
>>521051667Why? That's how arpgs work. You kill the boss then you farm content for drops and upgrades so you can kill it faster. What's this obsession with drawing out content until people hate it?
>>521053162Unironically I would probably like him more if he did something silly like that he's too serious I think is his biggest issue
>masteries devalue notablesis he retarded?
>0.2 difficulty nerfed into the groundReddit won. PoE is now casualized skinner box trash.Johnathan vision is weak as shit if he caves after 2 days of reddit whining.
>>521053105actually very nice and could be reliably useful even into white maps, at least in ssf.
>>521053105I don't think the helmet is too important of a gear slot currently. It's super important for ES though. Depends on how strong charms are.
>>521053232>Charms are shitthe design issue with charms is that you don't know when they've stopped you being stunned/frozen etc unless you make a point of paying attention. perhaps GGG should add a big shiny effect that goes off when a freeze is blocked.
>martial tempo'd disengageI'm never rolling again
>>521048373you can achieve it, I also played this build last season100% flask uptime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCnW8OSUMMA
>no changes to Concoction skillsJonathan and Mark are hacks and this game is dogwater.
>>521053349Head can roll crit chance, +level, and bunch of other shit. Or just be really fat
should I play this shit game again or give Tainted Grail a try bros?
>>521053471lily looking beautiful today
>>521053303You just don't get it bro, instead of masteries you gotta attach some retarded downside to make them valuable.
anyone have a good companion recommendation? I have a couple one with haste/stuns and another with all res/ice trail or whatever, but I'm sure there are better ones out there.
What are warrior bros using for clear? Bonezone or Stampede?
>>521053421Looked like a fun build.
>>521053275If you want piss easy bosses that drop loot, infinite grinds and action combat there's a whole genre dedicated to it. Gacha games.
>>521053527but only on the warrior side of the tree
>>521053519that's Holly from EHG, chud.
>>521053416Well I tested it with a few maps this league by swapping between stun / freeze.Freeze I never noticed but that might have been due to getting swarmed by mobs however stun was immediately noticeable (this is probably due to how often you get stunned now).
Memetic?
This belt is carrying me through boss fights providing me infinite health flasks. This plus flask regen on the flask itself, unless I get one shot, I can go forever.
>>521053563that’s why nu-gamers are so mad though. their brains are fried by gacha games, and the only thing which drops worthwhile items in gacha games is the gacha.
>>521053627Stun charm is confirmed bugged, it does not remove the stun that procced it
I'm tired of Early Access.Can we go back to releasing video games instead of projects?
>WE DON'T WANT PLAYERS TO ONESHOT BOSSES>Have you considered giving players a way to scale their defences enough for them to be able to do a battle of attrition against the bosses, rather than one shot or be one shot gameplay?>PLAYERS BEING IMMORTAL WOULD BE BAD FACETANKING ATTACKS WOULD BE AWFUL FOR THE GAME FUCK YOUWho was in the wrong here?
>>521053723Really? I definitely remember seeing the proc go off since my stun charm had guard on it and I didn't have any stun recovery.
>>521053560it was fun, but got deleted this season
>>521053723does it make you immune to followups?
>>521053731Just don't play until it's out bro
>start Last Epoch>have fun from lvl1 all the way into mapping, that in fact isn't even worse than the poop poop2 offers as an endgame, just different kind of lame. Johnathan, fix your fucking loot, skills, steal crafting from LE and it will be an alright game. Just do it, fag.
why the FUCK does sunder still feel like absolute hogshit to press
>>521053769Idk thats what mark said
>>521053745he’ll do it at some point. the “enrage timer” is a tenet of bossingslop games. he ought to know that, honestly.
>>521053731Why only release a game once when you can release the same game twice?
>>521053706the internet in general and social media in particular are also dopamine-soaked hells. I feel bad for DA KIDZ
Lost Shitpoch nerds getting uppity recently
i am personally glad that 99% of lifesprigs i drop will be completely fucking useless
>>521053862wdym?it feels great in poe1
>>521053948You have 8 days to roll.
>>521053745>Have you considered giving players a way to scale their defences enough for them to be able to do a battle of attrition against the bossesI understand Jonathan getting mad when asked this, given that its the whole design of poe2 bossfights in the campaign and Ziz was also complaining about Viper (an attrition boss) being too hard. passive-aggression to the max.
>>521053745Attritional combat would be kino but then flasks would need to be nerfed in some way and life leech would need to be deleted or made very conditional. Then boss damage and defences would need to change.
>>521053862That's why everyone is using Boneshatter. Because build diversity.
>>521054002Sunder in poop1 is so god damn nice to hit just hearing that sound effect BOM BOM BOM BOM BOM and then seeing a pack explode
>>521053885i actually thought blizzard solution for ubers was decent. permanent stacking debuff, a stack every time you get hit.
Modern Gachas > ARPGs desu
>>521053731I'm more bummed out that we waited five years for a product that only had six months development time.How fucked do you have to be to waste four and a half years on a company project that was 70% complete, and mere months away from a public playtest, on its original announcement?
Finally in act 6
>>521054120It's act 3x2 thoughbeit
>>521053042Uh well uh you see what we're-- uh what uh we're doing with the speaking uh lessons is uh well we're uh definitely working on them and uh we'll have uh several hours worth of discussions uh over your uh post and hopefully uh find some solutions.
>>521052247You've never done a t17
>3.26 comes out in late maywhat the heck do we play until then?
>>521053745What is the contradiction here? It’s ok for the boss to one shot the player, it’s not ok for the player to one shot the boss
>>521054298Sleepoch, grim yawn, poop of excrement 2, whoreframe I dunno
>grelwood wolves now move 5% slower>to balance for this, we have given them 250% hp and 50% more damage
buff fire spells/ignite dmg
>>521054073ah yes Sunder. the skill literally all phys warriors used to level through the campaign in that incredibly build-diverse game poe1.
>>521054298Last Epog.
>>521054298There's more than one genre?
>>521054298Last EpochGenshin ImpactMonster Hunter WildsFactorioLord of the Rings: Gollum(tm)Tamriel Rebuilt's new expansion is coming in a month
>>521054370I miss my 30 attacks per second you could dish out with (t)sunder(e) back in the day. Shit was FUN
>>521054298the same thing we play in late may. poe2
>>521053745have you considered not getting hit by the giant, slow, telegraphed one-shots?
>kill a rogue exile>wears single or 2 mod blue itemsAren't they suppossed to be modeled after players?
>choose optimised build to run through campaign>waah no build diversity>waah too easyretard
>>521054423>GollumFor the love of everything that is sacred, no, don't do this to yourself.
>>521054485they are LOL
i just want movement skills
anyone managed to get the holy trinity of companion mods on one yet?haste, temporal bubble and ele res?
Is lightning arrow back to being good again?
>>521054298Just doompost in the meantime
I'm in cruel act 5 playing EDC, and while it's fine lightning spear looks so much more fun. But if I do another campaign run I'm gonna fucking kill myself. Feels bad.
>Wants people to interact with all the aspects in the game>Instead of designing the game in a way that makes them WANT to interact with its mechanics he'd rather just force them somehowEpic.
>>521052346The entailment to this is that poo2 will only get worse
>>521054523I will play it if the LE league sucks
>>521054639Nigga, that game sucks more dick than a red district crack whore. Why, just fucking why.
>>521054478it’s why Viper is the GREAT filter. requires knowing the fight and requires rolling. and the screechy retards would rather screech for days on end than do either of those things.
>>521054486>use mace>no viable skill other than Bonezone>visioned
>>521054575>just force them somehowYes it's a game you're supposed to be forced to interact with mechanics you ARPG players are retarded
>>521054682This is what Jonathan has reduced me to.
Uh oh new shilly shift! Hi, Gupta!
>>521053745He is right that without one-shot damage. the only real way to make it consistently possible for bosses to kill players is to make them attrition fights where you essentially can't win if your dps is too low. Considering how bad they seem to be about managing player power in the campaign I do think this would be worse than what we have now.
what are the best monster modifiers on tame beast for lightning spear?
>Wants to make a hard game>Game is easier than any Mythic boss in WoW or Savage boss in XIV>Any Mythic Endboss or Ultimate brutally mogs PoE2What's the point? Who is he catering to? Casual gamers that want to feel like they're playing a hard game but aren't really?
>>521054816>Who is he catering to?Himself
>>521054756If I could I would hug you right now.
>>521054848but he doesn't play the game
>>521054812None you want wind dancer, ghost dance and herald of thunder.
>>521054816unironically yes but he made it a little too hard for them
>>521054816>Who is he catering to?People who thought Elden Ring was a revolutionary game
>>521054873Uhhh anon? He tests MULTIPLE characters EVERY day
You enter a new area with your Exile™. Which of the following is he most likely to say:>Sooo... *that* just happened>Ugh... I *hate* [area]>I'm the writer's strong woman fetish, but even *I* have to admit, [area] is beautiful
>>521054816Difficulty isn't binary what the fuck are you talking about?
>>521054816raid bosses are completely differentthe difficulty in raids is to coordinate a bunch of retards to do their jobbeing singularly responsible for your performance can never be made as difficult as managing multiple people
>>521054873He plays only act 1. And that would explain a lot of his "vision"
>>521054812haste aura and damage always shocks, so you can apply free exposure with it
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>521054816>Mythic boss in WoW or Savage boss in XIVAnyone who unironically can tell what any of those things mean would be better off dead to contribute to the greater good of the world. I say this without any shred of irony.
>>521054816>What's the point? Who is he catering to? Casual gamers that want to feel like they're playing a hard game but aren't really?yes. that's literally what the roll button is for. precisely thatthe game is actually kinda hard, but it's only hard because you have to stop having fun in order to make it easy
>>521054902I'd bet some good dosh Jonny hasn't even played or finished elden ring or other souls games despite wanting to shove their mechanics into PoE2 so much.
>>521054953In WoW that's kinda true, XIV raids however are kind of in-between, you usually just execute your mechanics regardless of what the other retards are doing almost every time.>>521054935If it's not actually hard what's the point? Anyone good at games will die to "gotacha" mechanics once or twice and then never again.
>>521052463>reductive zaccie shill brigade still out in forceDo you retards ever sleep?
>>521054770don't forget that if endgame bosses can't one-shot you1) glass cannon builders can just get even more damage and less defense. 2) tanks will be able to win boss fights using JUST ENOUGH dps and just fighting the bosses for ever. in the campaign either of these is okay because the reward is progress, they are just strategies, but if we're talking about the supposed "hardest content" then neither is acceptable without pretty giga gear.
>>521055031No one cares about Shitlist.Druid, Templar and Shadow first.
>>521055050we’re here to help, point to where the difficult game touched you
>>521055050>t.shitter filtered by Molten Core
fucking hell i keep getting DC'd from the server
>>521055050t. can't clear heroic/extremes
>>521055102>not actually hard what's the point?To filter out the unwashed hordes of retarded mongoloid redditors
>>521054816>MMO tranny thinks "raids" are hardLOLLMAO even
>>521055254EU is still getting cucked? Kek
WE ARE SO BACK
>>521054683jokes on you, I trivialized viper with ed contagion and 2k energy shield. literally facetanked every mechanic lmao fuck your shitty 10,000 rollslop boss design.
The game sucks.
>>521055265Literally an order of magnitude or two more difficult than PoE 2 though.
>>521052776It doesn't presuppose anything you dumb fucking nigger. A buckler is classed as a shield because it gains the benefit of shield passives it should be able to use shield skills based on that alone
>>521054970actually act 1 is by far the best in terms of balance, so maybe jonathan is on to something and we just need to let him cook the rest of the acts.
>>521055289yeah how did you know?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBOIYnVq54 this is what jonatroon wants map bosses to be
>>521055294the fact you were able to do this and did it successfully just makes the whiners look even worse
>>521055385EU mates have been complaining about it for the last few days only thing you can do is swap to another server
>>521055294>he facetanked attacksUH OH SOMEONE CALL THE FUN POLICEJONATROON IS COMING FOR YOU
>>521055396>just level up an entire new character bro to beat the boss bro!
>>521055291>they buffed my Shockchain Stormcaller build AGAINlol what the fuck are they doing
>>521055291GODnathan WON
>""""hard"""" game>Is completely trivialized by stacking blue health
TEMPER WEAPON CHADS WON BIGLY
>>521055495if a boss cant one shot you then its a bug and will be fixed
>mom i posted it again
>>521055558Is there a limit?
>>521055443>swap to another serverwhere do i do that?
Haven't played PoE in about a year and didn't check on PoE2.What's new in PoE2 compared to 1 as I'm assuming they share the same base? Don't care about the nerfs and cut mechanics/content, what's actually new?>wasd movement>a roll with iframes>new campaignwhat else?
>>521053091If you treat your playerbase as a problem, you become the problem
>>521055495Hopeshitter literally do not have a response to this.
>>521055605Exit to login screen click the arrow
troonathan status: raped
>>521055667thanks
>>521055558> this skill was so garbage that we're gonna have to reluctantly buff it> we might still end up nerfing part of it lollmaoat this point we should call every poe player a battered wife
ggg is unironically over.
>spearfield buffeveryone's sleeping on this skill, it's already op
>>521055294lol you have daddy issues my dude
>>521055452i actually started as a spectre lich and had to switch because minions were hypercucked zdps and I couldn't beat jamanra. only cost me 20k gold to respec and I never looked back after the switch.
>>521055495Cruel campaign is PISS easy in the current state of the game for any class. it’s just the average tard gets filtered out before getting there.
>>521055621>HC SSF poe1 streamers>the playerbase no thank fuck
>>521055628you don't think doomcuckies actually play the game do you
>>52105555812 top end still feels far too low for how long that shit takes and I don't think lowering the animation speed helps since it just means you'll do it more often so the time investment is higher making it a regular 30s or 60s long buff would be far more usable or fucking hell have the buff lose strength the longer it's been active
>>521055610nearly impossible to get above ~150% movement speed, movement skills are trash, and you have to fullclear maps
>>521056043>making it a regular 30s or 60s long buff I can't actually think of any buffs in poe2 with durations this long. GGG want us to have to play reactively, not just press a button every 30 seconds for more damage.
>>521055879if you say so, anonboth plebbit and poeg are already sucking jonathan anus after the emergency "buff" patchfat haired retard got away with it, again
i dont enjoy playing poe2
>>521056218>implying they didn't plan the "contentious" interview with Zizaran>implying they didn't already have the buffs in mind at 0.2 launch and just waited to get data on how big they needed to be for each skill
wheres the fucking PATCH you NIGGERS you keep talking about a PATCHI want to SMITH MY FUCKING WEAPON so wheres the fucking PATCH
>>521053232I love how asinine the whole charm thing is. First they take away utility flasks because consoletards don't have enough fingers. So they have to make ailments meaningless because the players will have no way to interact with them. Then they decide no maybe this is bad so the add charms. But nobody has charm slots so they are still trivial and useless. Now they make ailments more meaningful but are giving you easier access to more charm slots so ailments are automated away and again, still meaninglessAdding extra steps for the sake of adding steps
>We have also added runes for attributes allowing you to fix early game requirement issues.kek they literally already had this ready to go before Zizaran "suggested" it
>fixed a bug where banners did literally nothinglollmao
how many doomsissies do you think will finally decide to end their miserable lives after this next buff patch is released? not enough, to be sure.
>>521050930>rolling slam ignitehow does that scale? off the big second slam?
Watching the interview, and it's really funny how fixated Jonathan is on fast monster>NOOO THERE HAS TO BE FAST MONSTERS THERE JUST HAS TO, OKAY!?
>>521055821it would be 8400% damage for a three second animation if they didn't change the damage, I know poe players don't do their own math or know scalings but that's pretty out of line
>>521056587>no player speed buff>campaign will still be a massive fucking slog>endgame is still cooked>combo gameplay is still worse than holding down a single skill on most archetypes>building is still insanely restrictive>some skills are still completely fucking worthlessCall me when all of the above is ever fixed (it won't).
https://allstar.gg/u/zacciea
>>521056386Jonathan is not nearly good enough of an actor to pre plan this kind of interview, dude looked like he was on the verge of tears multiple timesThey very likely had some shit planned but Ziz antagonizing the devs scared them
>>521056685he's rightyou could tell Ziz was playing devil's advocate by pretending that fast monsters are some kind of recent innovation by GGG instead of being in ARPGs back to Diablo 1.
>>521054549I think those three are in a pool of aura mods that can only show up one at a time.My holy grail would be a good aura and at least two good defensives (magma barrier, shroud walker, etc.)
>>521056705>Posts regularly>Just after the release of a PoE 2 leagueJesus christ even the people working on it hate the game.
>>521056773Ziz literally streamed himself compiling the questions
>>521056672yes, against trash mobs it's just the second hit doing big damageand aftershocking + ignitingand for bosses and tanky rares I smith + warcry and drop a fat reverb hammer to oneshoteventually I might have to drop resolute technique and go into crit scaling, I'm kind of winging it with this shitALSO I LOVE REDDIT SPACING
>>521056503i imagine it is not hard to add that a new item that does something that already is in the gamerunes are probably abyss jewels on gear but with a different graphics
>>521056832lel imagine trying to fight a rare with ele res aura, temporal bubble and haste aura.
>>521056773Jonnyboy got tilted by Ventrua and Rue perfectly imitating his style of responseHe tried to pivot but couldn't do it so he just ended up having a grumpy dumpy in his diaper live on stream and Mark had to do what he could to salvage the vision in the eyes of the playerbase
>>521056773>Ziz antagonizing the devsStreamers should have to go down on their knees and beg to stream a game. Bunch of parasites.
is the blood crystals support shit bros?
Johnathan has already won back the hearts and minds of Reddit. He won bigly. The Vision won bigly.
>>521055495>3500 es in the campaign
>>521057031its not really about finding it, it just pops up and you pokeball it >>521056832ah i see, haste is the best one for me then temporal
so can arc shock and explode with shaper of storms? If so could it actually be good?
>>521056975the Artificer's Orb fix was also planned, because in 0.1 they were more common as random drops. based on my playthrouh, this patch GGG nerfed the drop rates. we now know it was to find out how many deterministic drops they needed to add. now you get rewarded for salvaging but there are also guaranteed orbs for players who refuse to do it.
>>521057108
Ranger bros. Be honest. Did lightning arrow and its supporting skills REALLY deserve the buff? Aren't you like the only viable bow build outside of poison explosion spam?
lil bro back tracked real quick
>>521057167I literally just spent 7 points in total on ES, not my fault Jonathan put in a wheel that gives you 75% ES for two points.
>>521057167>Equip a bunch of blue ES items>Click ES nodes on treeNot that hard
think I'm just gonna start void knight bonk, what about you guys?
The dev bullying must continue.
ASINIA STEP ON MY COCK
>>521057190nevermind I was thinking of poop1 fucks sake
Is gas arrow still better than lightning arrow
>>521055628aren't doomers dooming because the game is too hard, not because it's too easy?i can't follow this fucktarded narrative
>>521057262>>521057273now the goalposts have moved to:>well yes, I did go way out of my way to defensively set up for this, so what?
>>521057175I like the idea of Haste aura but as a ranger it often drops from me because the companion's aura range is pretty small, it's mostly just for running between packs for me.If you're a melee build though it will be more consistent.
>>521057362You tell me *farts on u*
>>521057412Which goal posts?
>>521057412>N-No you're not supposed to use defensive optionsUhm... anon?
>>521057408>aren't doomers dooming because the game is too hardThey're having a meltdown but not because the game is too hard uhm it's because uhhh
>>521057412profound mental retardation
Why do they hate Concoctions?
>>521057412
>>521057408They made it too easy after all the nerfs. Now it's the same cookieclicker slop like poe1.
>>521057230what's weird is everyone complained about deadeye being too good yet also in 0.1 GGG actually just buffed Ranger. my personal experience is we were getting one-shot a shitload even if in trade league streamers were able to get full ES gear and delete bosses.
it really feels like the team in charge of campaign balance (I assume jonathan alone) and the team designing mapping arent communicating in any way whatsoever
Reminder that Jonathan is the guy who actually wanted to make a video game studio. Chris had a millionaire friend Brian and they thought it would be a good idea to make a quick buck with a Diablo 2.5 while Blizzard was sleeping.There are videos from 2009 where Jonathan explains how he wants an ARPG to be. The idea for a large skill tree that every class can use? His. The idea for a skill system based around an item that every class can use? His.People need to understand how invaluable Jonathan is for the future of both Path of Exile 1&2. If he is gone both games will enter more than just creative stagnation. Tencent will try to fill in the void with people like Mark who fundamentally cannot build on the success of Path of Exile because they will just end up making an entirely different game. Its like painting over a picture. The original Path of Exile turning into either a cookie clicker or a Ruthless slog fest is the result of new people entering the developement of Path of Exile and changing its direction. If Jonathan is gone we will see a lot more of that, not less.
>>521057493Jonathan Rogers (PBUH) said that stacking defences and facetanking attacks is bad game design.I'm sorry but your build is not vision-approved fun.
>>521058016But Zaccie said he'd fix it for 0.2....
>>521058051You didnt beat the game
>>521057273I mean you kind of do also need to find usable gear with ES mods on it so you have something to increase.
>>521057432my shroud walker monkey teleports to enemies and blinds them so im always in range, look for shroud walker and haste and try that out maybe a monkey so if you are in maps look for the jungle region maps and farm there for it i guess or you could get a high level gem and go back to act 3 i think it was and farm in the campaign area for it
I'm just surprised that even after """nerfing""" ES its still the best defensive option. It's like old poe 1 all over again when ES+CI was king and going for a life based build was stupid unless you utilized shavs to reserve your life.
>>521058051Deletethis.
>>521053563No thats called path of exile 1, and this game is supposed to be its sequel
>>521058016>facetanking attacksYes you shouldn't be able to tank the pinnacle bosses ultimate charge attack
>>521057273Hold on, let me reroll my infinite ritual to get some perfect ES gear
>>521058193>its still the best defensive optionits actually pretty complicated now because ailments and stun are more dangerous. it may always SEEM like the best option because it can save you from obvious one-shots but GGG's data mght say something else.
>>521057903Are you talking about maps or the campaign? I'm surviving act 6 with act 1.5 gear
>open map>fun levels at 80%>cramped ass corridor map>fun levels at -50%
did they update her clothing?
>>521054370Yes?
>>521049329In 0.1 it had worse targeting, dps, and feel than Spark. Having to wait before it fires and having a chance it misses your intended target is not fun.
>>521058363Which can be mitigated by taking one stun threshold wheel on the tree.
>>521057362who cares about either when lightning spear exists
>>521058363If you're going ES you are pretty much always just 2-3 points away from a large Stun Threshold Notable which just fixes the issue.
>hey dude finish 10room trial for 4th ascendency >ok>actually u need to put 3 keys in and beat some nigger after itKYS GGG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tr-bOy2vkIT'S UPZIZ STATUS = BROKENJONATHAN STATUS = REDEEMED
>>521058363The other mitigating factor is you wiping the screen from a distance and never getting in melee range.
>>521058536I'm playing deadeye
>>521058682>He fell for the Ultimatum bait
>play ED/C>get to Doriyani>get filteredIs the game hard? Am I cooked? Or is it the skill thats trash?
Please, let's appreciate GGG's work for a momentIt’s been ages since I last saw such dedicated developers. So please, take a step back, even if you're upset about the recent nerfs and think it through for a moment. The game is still in Early Access, and you acknowledged that when you bought it on Steam.So again, please be a bit more patient instead of bombing them with negative reviews and constantly complaining on the forums about the latest changes. They’re clearly working incredibly hard to deliver what the community wants, this effort deserves some appreciation.It genuinely hurts to see so much hatred over just a few percentage changes. They're people too, and it’s worth considering how it would feel to be in their shoes, after you put everything into this project. I ask again, please be more patient. I truly believe that in the end they’ll deliver the best game in the genre.
>>521058750you know you can still equip spears, right?
>>521058805Did you fall for the HP+Resistances meme?Just stack ES and you'll be fine.He's currently bugged and his laser thing oneshots you.
>>521058416I'm talking about SSF in tier 10 maps last league with 1.4k life XDbut before then even in low-tier maps there were white mobs with slams that could easily one-shot me. a few days into 0.1 GGG nerfed all monster crit multi across the board, then nerfed individual mobs like prowling shades. rangers didn't have the hp pool or the raw buffer to survive those kinds of things and my experience was lots of one-shots and having to dodgeroll my ass off vs regular packs.
In the end 3 things were clear.1.Jonathan is really pissed how leople reacted and the feedback he gets for the way he wants the game to work. As passionate as GGG is, it issnt easy to push that negativity away - they are people too and we all can have a bad day. Does not excuse a bad product of course.Marc was kinda mellow as ever, because (i think) he knows stuff issnt right and cant be at this point and wont take it as personal. Different angle on things.Both havent tried the game in a long time in a true playthrough, i mean how could they as i presume their day has also just 24h.But without the first hand experience, their disconnect grew over the month and you feel it. I think they noticed that and may choose different viewpoints and approach stuff different, so future patches wont seem as disconnected.2.A lot of important concerns were communicated and already solved. No one can say they are tone deaf. It will take time. Its normal not to instantly budge meeting resistance. We as players need to communicate more and more, but maybe less toxic here and there. Lots of vial comments out there....crazy shit.3.The game wont be poe1, it will be slower (catching up to poe1 as stuff gets added and power inflated). It wont be as diverse and more streamlined. They want you to use at least 3-4 abilities constantly on top of 1-2 automations to be effective. Crafting, if you can call it that, will be way less deterministic to keep drops viable for longer.Thats what i at least took from the latest initerview.
No, I don't think I will go all the way around, johhny.
>>521058805 ED contagion is nice for trash clear but you need a good plan and really good gear to scale single target at allbasically you need to figure out some other skills to use on single target
>>521058363Check today's announcement, they're buffing ES to status ailments
I'm not reading any of that
Ballistas need to be nerfed
>>521059014Reporting to exploit. Enjoy your league long ban.
>>521048809>They just made hundreds of millions of dollars on millions of players paying $30 at minimum to play the game>Let's nickle and dime them for mystery boxes for this (not league)>Let's have our developers waste time modeling skins that mean nothing to the game meanwhile entire items and character classes and environments and acts don't existI CANTTWO FUCKING EXILECONS WE WAITED TO GET GRIFTED WITH DRIP FEED DEVELOPMENTPOE1 DEADPOE2 DUELIST IN 2027
Anyone else notices some monsters jittering like they are stuck in one pixel of terrain and spazzing out?
>>521058703am i the only one who doesn't give a fuck about this shit? it feels like such an overblown nothingburger just to farm content. the balance could be better and a bunch of skills are gay, that's basically ever poe patch.
>>521058813Please, let's appreciate GGG's work for a momentIt’s been ages since I last saw such dedicated developers. So please, take a step back, even if you're upset about the recent nerfs and think it through for a moment. The game is still in Early Access, and you acknowledged that when you bought it on Steam.So again, please be a bit more patient instead of bombing them with negative reviews and constantly complaining on the forums about the latest changes. They’re clearly working incredibly hard to deliver what the community wants, this effort deserves some appreciation.It genuinely hurts to see so much hatred over just a few percentage changes. They're people too, and it’s worth considering how it would feel to be in their shoes, after you put everything into this project. I ask again, please be more patient. I truly believe that in the end they’ll deliver the best game in the genre.
>>521059124>POE2 DUELIST IN 2027Look at this fucking guy being all optimistic.
>>521059215>t.Jonatroon
>>52105536154*20 people have cleared the hardest content.now how many have cleared poe hardest content (ssfhc poo2 / ruthless hc poo1) ?
>russnigger still seething about getting banned shouldn't have used an exploit
>>521059124Sorry, due to whatever we haven't finished duelist. Maybe we'll implement him after 2.0 if we have the time.
>>521058487>this skill was UP because that skill was OP>>521058518you can't stack both ES and Life on gear, so getting more stun and Ailment threshold isn't going to help an appropriately geared ES user as much as it helps a Warrior or a life-and-EV ranger.
>>521058825no?
>>521059215Nah, he needed a reality check. He clearly lives in a different dimension. In fact I thought that most of the memes about him are just that - memes. I wasn't ready.
>>521059365Jonathan....
>>521059124Welcome to live service gamingYou WILL enjoy the roadmaps You WILL enjoy the content dropsYou WILL enjoy the skinsYou WILL enjoy paying for basic functionality
its habbening again> ggg shits out new patch, nerfs everything, game is even more garbage than before> people get pissed about it but keep playing, streamers tiptoe around the issue, shills hide because they know their moment will come> ggg launches apology tour + "buff 0,1% when we've nerfed 60%" patch to anchor the playerbase> shills come back in full force and mount GIDF for a week or so(you are here)> game is still boring so complaints and playerbase die down> new league will fix everything we promise guys> 4/5/6 months later because EA /go back to top/
>>521058724don't be silly, monsters are much too fast and dangerous in this game for anyone to be doing that :DD
>>521058703is he the most fit poe streamer?
They need to nerf the shit out of gas builds
>spears need str to useniggers
>>521059483>gasnot if jonathan has anything to say about it
>>521058909its actually easier to stack HP this league just because body runes give +20/30/40 whereas before it was +25.
>>521059468how many girls is mathil plowing on the regular and how many of them look like typical PoE players? Also, are poe1 or poe2 players better looking?
>player base seethes for days>niGGGers this niGGGers that>total kiwi death!>few days later>jonatroons walks in farting>puts his hand down his pants and grabs a chunk of shit and throws it at the players>the crowd goes wild>WE ARE SO BACK! they screamI think the only player community as pathetic as poe's is wow's.I legitimately am jealous of jonatroon, I can only imagine having so much power.
>>521059283the only hard thing about video game content is the willingness to cut off your dick and quit your job to play nothing elsecomparing how many people beat video game content is nothing but a tranny neet popularity contest and only tells you which side has more subhumans giving up on life.
>>521059468he's 147cm tall...
>>521059468this mother fucker is more /fit/ than like 98% of peoplebased life enjoyer just having fun climbing rocks, plowing chicks and gaming
>>521059505Yes, you throw it. Guess what you need to throw things.
>>521059649I hope Larry didn't cut his off yet that'd be a waste
if chance to inflict an ailment is based on your damage dealt relative to a monster's ailment threshold, wtf does "% chance to apply bleeding" do?
>Map device that just reuses a boss>Content that was already made and funded with MTX is being resold for more MTX dollarsThis company is fucking gross, all these mtx that are just ripped off a monster or a boss, why the fuck are people paying money for this shit. It's so obviously low effort, the lowest effort like a game modder with file access could make these hamfisted cosmetics in minutes yet they demand actual dollars for them
>>521059468It's strange how bouldering gives you an incredible physique but only homos do it. Maybe I should be the change I want to see in the world.>>521059603>girlsanon...
>>521059649Only four characters reached level 100 in PoE2 SSFHC. It is vastly more difficult than any MMO raid. This is a fact.
I'm actually having a good time with 0.2
>>521057408No, doomers just think the gameplay is bad, not hard. If this were fps, poe1 would be quake and poe2 would be fortnite
>>521059597DUDE IS THAT A POGGN' 15 ESXTRA HP ON 4 PIECES OF GEAR?!?!?!?!? THEY FIXED EVERYTHING!?!?!?!?LOG THE FAUCC IN DUUUUUUUUUUGE HOLU POGG?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>521059682And Australia is a Chinese colony full of tiny Chinese women.
it's so fucking over...
>>521059831He's gay
>>521057408it's about fun you subhuman troglodyte. if you enjoy the game go ahead and play it, no one stops you.the doomers are just not having fun and hate jonatroon and co for lying.
>>521059124GGG has 100% company ownership belonging to Chinese mega company Tencent. Tencent has pushed out orders for all games it controls, which is everything from league of legends to path of exile, to push heavily for more monetization this year. They had a real bad economic break last year and the economy being what it is they need to accumulate funds to keep floating.So even though GGG has stated this quarter alone has generated them what would otherwise be several years worth of revenue, they have to keep pushing for more. Because every cent they generate that doesn't go to server hosting fees, employee costs, building leasing, or misc. Other expenses, is sent directly to Tencent.
>>521059763if he is actually gay and thirst trapping for dudes, i respect him more
>>521058003Yeah thats bullshit. Jonathan is the ruthless shitter and Chris took the fall. That has been made abundantly clear now
>>521059705>Guess what you need to throw thingsHands
>>521057408I'm dooming the game because there aren't enough tings.
>>521059468he will have an onlyfans within the next year, screencap this
>>521059919retard
>>521059698>plowing chicks> mathilanon...>>521059831> Australia is a Chinese colony full of tiny Chinese womenbrb moving to Australia, sadge chinese women have tiny tits tho
>>521059782are you having more or less fun than 0.1 on average
>>521059215PoE community is full of whiny manchildren. You'll get used to it.
xisters.....
>First time trying out warrior>Get Sunder>It does this retarded stand on the spot marvel jump, there's a clear weapon swing at the start of the attack that literally does nothing, no hit no damage or anything, your character jumps up like a retard with both heels touching their scalp and then they rubber boing back down to the ground while the hammer just bounces like an inflatable Holy fucking hell melee is so hilariously bad feeling and lookingHow does Sunder not have that first little swing you do count as a hit? That would make it make more sense to hit something that's close to you while you do the stupid jump to hit stuff away from you.It's literally just a pathetic windup that has no impact when you use the skill.Who made these fucking skills, this is the amateur looking hokey shit I've seen
Is lighting crit spear Invoker a good idea?
>>521059946very aesthetic abs, good genetics he coulda been a good bodybuilder
>>521060056it's a payoff skill retard
>>521059468>>521059946That's just the average Australian
>>521059036>>521058590>>521058518compared to EV builds you are going to get hit more so there are more chances to get stunned, i.e. those wheels are worth less in absolute terms. but you will have way more ES than a ranger/huntress can easily stack life so with one wheel the chance per hit will be lower... but you can't just flask back to full instantly from the damage itself. anyway my hope is that it all ends up being balanced.
>>521059951How so? Tencent priorities for its game studios they own are public record. As are the shareholder meetings where they emphasized the push in monetization. As are the clear heavy handed tactics in increased monetization in the games they own.
>>521059215>I'm so cool guys I don't care about this>Guys please look at me >Please, I don't care about this>I am cool btw>I just don't care!>Yes I spent time watching the interview and the video and came here to post about it but I just don't care about it, okay???>I'm cool btw, nothingburger lmao!
>>521060147that would be slipperyjim
>>521058703assfucking status?
>>521059283Are they seriously killing another horde leader?
>>521060336anus prolapsed and leaking cum
>>521060000More fun but I haven't got to maps yet
>>521060135It's a shit feeling dumb looking bad feeling skill anonThese faggot devs need to play monhun and know what an actual hammer slam is supposed to be likeThis is what I leveled up for and played to this point for? Feels so unsatisfying and jankLiterally shooting fireballs as sorc feels so insanely fluid and satisfying and then you try out melee combat and it feels like you just started playing new world or some really shitty indy game that is animated by the programmers
>>521059921he pretty clearly is and its funny that he presents as straighter than Zizaran
>>521059946wouldnt be the first PoE Streamer with an OF
>>521060469People that are as fit as Mathil are never gay
>>521060460I think YOU are shit feeling and dumb! how do you like them apples, kid?
>>521060350https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fTanxyOs-U
>>521060460>monhunjfc
>>521060591I don't actually care but for the parasocial poe streamer headcanon soapopera it is helpful if he is.
Does minion size do anything?
>>521059946wouldn't surprise me, bro's entire twitter is shirtless pics
>>521060261so in your mind 0.2.0 is worse than something like the expedition patch?because you didn't find enough regals in act 1.
>ben>high skilled squishy ranged character>must have situational awareness or dies>alkaizer>plays the most defensive piece of shit character in the game>apes around ignoring mechanics>still 2nd (1st loser) on the laddersucks to suck lil gupp
>>521060771they bodyblock harder
>>521060782why not with a body like that
poop2 is bad.
>>521060771most women will say that it doesnt matter but I have it on authority that the bigger the minion, the better
why are the eu servers dyinghello?i am getting a dc roughly ever 20ish minutes
Skill in ARPGs is going fast, not doing the mechanics.
>>521060189It won't ever happen mainly due to two factors:Both Evasion and Armour look insanely strong on paper. If you just assume a bunch of map mobs are wailing on a character the one with Evasion will look much tankier than the ES character and the Block+Armour character will look even stronger than the Evasion character.However, what they don't really factor in is that you're pretty much never actually just tanking mobs, even melee characters rarely just stand there and let mobs hit them, ES characters are hit even less because they're typically ranged.Finally, the second, and the most important one, they don't actually play their own game so they don't realize that having a retarded amount of raw ES even with no mitigation is several times better than having a shit ton of armour.On top of that with some investment ES starts recharging after like 1.5 sec and an insane rate far outpacing a life build that clicks all life regeneration on the tree for some reason.They built ES on a shit premise and it's mechanics are just retarded OP, not having a life flask isn't a downside at all and changing this would require for Jonathan to admit he made a design error, which he will never do.
the base endgame is better than poe 1 already, they just need some actual league content. I really enjoyed getting to T15s. GGG's fault for making campaign a slog to get through though
>>521061043You mean like a rotation? something jonathan didn't want people to do?Can we have a petition on poe forums for mark taking jonathans place btw, mark seems a lot more level headed
>wins by doing absolutely nothing
>>521060619I hate nu-blizzard so fucking much, no amount of sunk cost could keep me interested in this burning pile of garbage
About to rewatch Troonathan's squirming meltdown again. Which POV is the best? Alktrooner?
>>521060810>forcing this regal memeHi discord!
>>521061275Troonily
>>521061043There is no skill in the average ARPG, cope.PoE2 is close but still 99% gear, especially after the campaign.
Last Sleepoch S2 will die about 100x faster than 0.2 and doomies will just choose to ignore it happened
>>521060559wouldnt even be the first male PoE streamer with OF
This should be a perma ban, and there are absolutely more people that did this. We need to pump those ban numbers up.
>>521061373Cutedog and Larry, anyone else?
>>521061358the skill is in actually choosing a build and understanding how to scale the build properly without having a bad time. 99% of players failed to do that this patch and bitched about it while 1% of players easily hit endgame without a hitch.
>>521061358Idk man, Elon ripped several top-10 ladder characters within hours of playing each
Mario Tennis takes more skill that poop2
>>521060419>but I haven't got to maps yetthen your opinion is worthless lil bro.
>>521060850All has always been second fiddle to Ben. That's why he got so offended that Ben said poo2 was big shit and he has his trooncord shilling here nonstop. Poor little guy never had a win.
Softgang report in!
>>521061546Yeah but he's a god gamer. You can't balance the game around the top 0.01% of skill like Elon.>b-but he paid chinks to do everything for him!!!!Ok, why isn't he banned? You think top tier developers like GGG would just let a black eye like that on their game fly?
>>521061293can you articulate the current issue with patch 0.2.0? sorry if you don't like the regal meme but that was a big part of his little meltdown, i guess he did say his build didn't work.but mark said he would snapshot it to see what was wrong and ziz told him to nevermind because he fixed it by getting some regen. have you even played the patch, your not just a mazed doomer are you?
crazy that this game takes no skill and all the poe 1 veterans are still bad at it LOL
>>521061442youre overestimating how many people actually made it to maps and had time to set it up within 4 days, im actually suprised its even 300 considering the ultimatum exploit hit like 20 people at most
Does stomping ground damage scale with aoe damage nodes?
poop 0.2/10
>>521061514skill is different from knowledge anon
Last Troonpoch astroturfing feels very forced
>>52105901490% of the time you just hit an invisble wall unfortunately.
>>521061442Banning the only people playing the game unironicly
Many people are in denial about this but poe2's player peak will forever be the paid beta launch.
>>521061442nigger retard
>>521061442they shouldn't be banned at all. people knew you could literally dupe instances and crash them to rollback craft items/make infinite temporalis last league and GGG said it was early access so nobody would be banned. if you knew about this and weren't exploiting you were just going to get left behind by their logic. if they didn't ban people for crashing the servers for everyone why the fuck would they ban people for doing exactly what the tablet said?
>>521061358note that power being 99% gear still isn't easy enough for some people.they want power to come from the build itself, i.e. the skill tree and support gems, i.e. stuff that they can do entirely out of game.
>>521062176Because it is. It's happening across social media as a whole, so it's literally just some advertising company shilling it where they can.
unlike ggg who would never use all of their rmt money to spam every front with astroturfing
>wake up>not only was the leak correct but it wasn't even close to how fucked we're gettingI miss Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games bros...
>>521060419not him but maps are more fun than in 0.1 so you should be alright.
>>521062347unironically, because the crafting exploit was used by high profile players but this exploit wasntendgame crafters are what keep the streamers playing
>>521062489was there another leaker?QRD?
>sleepoch has da BEST crafting>it's just multimod>same problem with multimod, you almost immediately get gear 80% good>rest of the game is hunting the exact gear you have with higher %so do I have to be some soulless golem to enjoy 'poch?
>>521062380they hit 250k concurrent players last time around, which is 5x what grim dawn does, it's not that small a game.
>>521062609no it's still the old oneafter the shit that's happening I'm not even doubting it's validity anymore
>>521058003I find myself agreeing with 95+% of what Jonathan says. Mark is easier to like because he seems a lot more pragmatic and concilliatory but Jonathan's stubborness and belief in design principles over momentary solutions makes me a lot more hopeful for long term health of a game. In truth the combination of those two seems very synergistic and I couldn't be further from a doomer atm. Literally my one and only fear is if Jonathan does end up breaking or leaving or otherwise the game becoming a player designed game, which would be the fastest way for the whole IP to go down a fucking cliff, because that's ALWAYS what happens when devs are just doing what the players want.
>>521062380This. Last Epoch was barely even popular yet 60% of comments on POE and Diablo content online is about Lost Epoch. I don't know if they're botting or just using some minimum wage jeets to force the narrative.
>>521062285Absolutely zero chance this is true lol. I feel like a lot of people are massively underestimating 1.0 being a F2P launch. Sure they won't retain most of those players but the F2P launch easily has a chance to hit a million.
did GGG ever commented on implementing something like the ssf guild in sleepoch? or their thoughts on it
I'm #1 on the SSF ladder for my ascendancy :)
>>521062724I think Chris was even better desu. He didn't fold like Jonathan does whenever reddit starts crying.
>>521062783Wasn't their official stance "this is a trade game" ?
>>521061514That's a problem with balance. This game has worse diversity than 1 when it comes to designing a build that works
Chris would never have a meltdown like Troonathan did. Frankly, it was pathetic. No wonder poop2 is such a mess with this idiot in charge.
>>521062783Yeah, they stated that SSF is a challenge mode and the whole point of it is to struggle. They don't want to make Path of Exile into a single player game.
>>521062713The old one was confirmed to be some guy that was at the LA reveal, it was never an employee
>>521062634>they hit 250k concurrent players last timethey hit 71k on their last big update which was 27% of their release peaksame as 0.2
>>521062917what didn't you like in patch 0.2.0?
>>521062783they despise SSF as there isn't any hideout interactions to shovel other players MTX in your face to activate coin spending neurons
>>521062861and i do it with your old lady
>>521061442>He expects anything from a company too pussy to ban Mlon Eusk after he admits multiple times to RMTing an endgame account>(bought from a zigger btw)They had the chance to make the current Greenland/Mexico garbage go all towards NZ and the fucking blew it.
When will a company make single player Lost Ark (actual best ARPG ever made)
>>521062285Yeah, losing 60% of players in the first "big content patch" is abysmal. But it's not surprising considering what a turd it was on launch.
>>521062884People struggle with this in PoE 1 too, it's just that the baseline power is so high that most people can just swap to a meta build on zero budget easily. People bitch every league that they were baited by some streamer build. People were bitching about leaguestarting MFA in Phrecia lol
>>521063061>single player Lost Ark
>>521061754I mean why bother when you'll just deflect and then say "skill issue" or some other nonsense. The patch is shit. They dumpstered the majority of skills. On top of that the overarching design of poe2 isn't even good. Pigeon holed skills, bad support gems, bad itemization, bad unique design. There are so many things I could point to and you'll just handwave them all because you're a shiteater
>>521062743Paid cope.
>>521062876goes without saying, but Chris is no longer around so there's nothing that can be done about that
>>521062917He has to go. I've never seen anything like that and he's lucky to have Mark there to constantly bail him out.
>>521063071It seems pretty normal, what are you comparing it to
>>521062783optional challenge mode like hardcore ;)you WILL enjoy trading with chinese RMTers and bots, anon.
>>521063061my understanding is its either crazy build diversity like poe1 or cool combat like LA, having both is impossible for humans to make
Did they give fire damage another ailment? Or is it still the worst ailment
>>521063061lost ark was the least organic shilling of all time
>>521062783They could just do what Hero Siege does and up the droprates by 30% and not allow any transfers from ssf to trade.And we know hey are perfectly capable of giving SSF modifiers because they kept patching them for Baldo's pet project uthless Lootless mode. They even added special quest rewards to that shit 6 people play.
>>521063218They went from 580k to like 238k between 0.1 and 0.2 launch. poe1 has never had a drop like that, not even close. 60% of the players didn't even bother to come back and check out 0.2.
>>521059345>this skill was UP because that skill was OPWhat I mean is that as of 0.1, Ember Fusillade felt bad to use (again, because of firing delay and chance to miss) without dps to compensate for it. So there was no incentive to use it over skills that felt better. If you didn't like Spark, you could pick up cold spells, which felt infinitely better than fire spells.
>poe3 is at least 15 years away>i'll be playing poe3 when i'm 65
I just woke up, Doomchads how we feeling? I still can't believe how good we have it after last night, feels like a dream.
Only just now got to watching the interview. It's pretty clear Johnathan is a great programmer, but a lousy fucking director. That's honestly fine, most people aren't great at everything. But holy fuck, just put Mark in charge of the company and put Johnny on programming lead.
>>521062876/u/chris_wilson has a long history of making apology posts literally on reddit. You must be new.
why bleed so SHIT
>My experience on my many many multiple runs (s for plural, more than one (1)) is that I find many regals and artificer's orbs.>In quite fact I have multiple sockets and socketed gear!
>>521046025Unironically, why is this allowed?Why someone talking about how the game should be is allowed to literally not play it? I know the game has internal testing and shit but how do you know how bad things really are if you didn't experience it?
Are 6 years of troubled development not enough? Fire the shitty project managers already and replace them with Ching Wi-Son to get shit done.
>>521063131so you can't say >i played it and here are a few things i didn't like.you can just reiterate vague comments you read on reddit.
>>521045686>get hoarded by 3 packs of whites into a corner i cant get out of, literally stuck>no good rolls or gem upgrades because of rng>have to watch as my character gets killed by 10 damage hits because the stun threshold is -1
I'll never believe in Path of Exile 2's failure as long as people who hate this game literally wake up and immediately start posting about this game.
>>521062623Nah you just quit like 10-15 hours into endgame.(As opposed to quitting PoE 2 during the campaign)
>>521063510I'm actually getting tired of doomGAWDing because it's become too easy to win. I'm thinking about hopesissy posting just to change it up (not because the game is or ever will be good).
>>521063394poe's first content patch was over a decade ago. I mean what are you comparing it to right now
>>521063394It's early access. I played 0.1 for novelty but I'm not coming back until all the acts and Shadow are out.
The time is coming soon when I have to unspec this (act3 cruel) and I am in full panic mode.I dread the way the character will feel after this is gone.Fuck.
>>521063743
>>521062285Nearly 350k of those players were poe1 players. And I'd wager all of them hate it. The people who actually like the game is growing thinner by the minute. May will be the major tipping point where Jonathan has a wakeup call. 3.26 will save these idiots from further retardation
PoE1 but moddable and offline, there, I just made the best ARPG of all time
>I-IT'S EARLY ACCESS!!!!That's not a good thing. Just because the game has been stuck in development hell for years and they keep slipping the release timeline, doesn't mean they get a pass for the game being dogshit
>>521063812lycosidae is more broken than dance with death unfortunately
>>521063559its not, im owning
>>521063531Wrong
>>521063918bro ur grimmer dawner
>>521063981grim dawn missed the most important part, being PoE1
>Getting lost because the map generated weirdlyfuck your mother Jon
>>521063928Nigger I don't care if the game is dogshit during development, as long as it isn't dogshit on release.
>huntress has boob jiggle when turning and movingfuckingwhy?
>>521063967show me
>>521063743well doomies lost ben, he's all aboard the poo2 train now.but i guess you got ziz on team retard... that's pretty cool.
>>521063942is that shit actually 50 exalts? I can't tell if the price is going up or down based on how hard its being manipulated
>>521063632Right away with the handwaving just as I said. You retards have one script
>>521063613You can be a great leader while knowing nothing about the work your team does. You just have to be open minded, listen to your employee and customer concerns, and internalize them while making an effort to improve the product based on feedback.Jon doesn't do this. He flat out admitted that the game and balance decisions are made based on what he finds fun, and was practically whining about even thinking of designing the game for somebody else.
>>521064183no idea, but i guarantee you with every amazon and their mother wanting their own it won't be cheap for a while. at least the rolls on it barely matter.
>>521064148because devs are 99% male?
bro is steelmage ok?hes literally tweeking on streamjust rocking back and forth
why the fuck does my autoattack zero mana spear throw skill do like 20% more damage than lightning spear???
>paid beta testers getting uppity again
It would've taken Path of Exile 1 more than a decade to reach the success that Path of Exile 2 had and when they launch 3.26, they'll get all those players back lmao. Then they have two games that are consistently hitting hundreds of thousands of players.Most studios would sacrifice a dozen newborn babies to have that level of constant revenue.
>>521064173ben playing the only approved build in te game (destiny 2 build) so of course he has a blast. that will change fast when he starts playing anything else
>>521064247he clearly does do that though, because changes are being made and always have. you're being a woman and judging him only on his words not his actions
>>521064193you retards just spam that same tired shit over and over, what didn't (you) like about the patch? what part of the campaign, early mapping, late mapping, etc. you don't play the game lol so you can only copypaste whatever shit you heard or saw on reddit/youtube.
>>521064173Didn't the devs went full retard with resoure grind and dailies/weeklies/xlies?
>>521064371>constant revenue.GGG hasn't seen any revenue since the paid beta launch. They are actually starving themself by fumbling the troubled poo2 development while also not releasing poe1 leagues.
who asked for this
>>521064538>damage on Tuesday if you're facing true North.
>>521064537Yeah man, i'm sure Tencent is just on the cusp of shutting GGG down.
>>521064538>Play simon says for 30% more damagePeak poe 2/10
>>521064453> The whole discussion exists only because of what Jonathan DID for 0.2> YOU ARE NOT JUDGING HIM BASED ON HIS ACTIONS REEEE
>>521064538what the fuck lol
>>521064538
>>521064538MEANINGFULCOMBAT
>>521064538lollmaodo poo2 babs really?
>>521064538The fuck am I reading lmfaoooooooooooooo>poo2sissies spent months jerking to ai of d4 bad songs to get this in their game
I use Alignment support for my build because my attacks basically hit the entire screen and it's free damage no matter where I aim it.
>>521064538The loss of dps from having to move around to fit the direction will just negate the upsides of the supportPeak
>>521064538its shit because its bow exclusive
>>521064538> Cannot support channeled skillsWhy? Does it mean it cannot be used on the crossbow railgun?
>>521064538Is that not like 30% damage with a 25% uptime?
>>521064694>jonathan coded the entire patch and balanced everythinghmm you seem to have already lost the plot when confronted with reality
>>521064965You think they would take the chance to give this to a weapon category that can blanket bomb the whole screen?This ain't PoE 1 buddy, supports have to be dogshit
>>521064538OH NO NO NO NO
>>521064538If I made up a fake support gem to be as stupid as possible on purpose I couldn't make one funnier than this
these replies are making me realize this general is insanely shit at the game
>>521064538>We have included 100+ new support gems!>Please ignore that 98% of them are unplayable conditional dogshit
>>521065112hi jonathan, make it out of act 1 yet?
Log in
>>521065112>dood channel your feng shui and face the north star!
>>521065185I'd twist her, if you catch my drift
>>521065042uptime is higher if you can circle around the boss
>>521064538>This is why they nerfed spark
>>521065048Jonathan represents GGG in front of the players
>>521065042if you slot it in and completely ignore it it's 7.5% more damage just incidentally
>>521065185we're so backshe needs to move to a new build thoughtwisters have gotten old
>>521065042In a boss fight where you decide to stand still? YesSo around 7.5% more damage
It's free damage while clearing and 30% more damage against bosses, how are you people this bad? Most bow skills don't even have 5 usable supports
>>521064305That is what being a doomer does to a man
>>521062347to send a message that being a nigger is not okay, even in EA. GGG is treating these patches like leagues and the game as if it's in full release already. Calling it early access right now is just word games for them to explain their laziness.
>>521065219twist her dick?
>>521064538Watching the game that exists because blizzard make a bad sequel to D2 make their own sequel essentially D3 in real time is some real poetry
>>521065232so why can't you confront reality?>listen to your employee and customer concerns, and internalize them while making an effort to improve the product based on feedback.Jon doesn't do this."he" does do this. "he" did it after 0.1 and now in 0.2.
>>521065361Because bow is the last thing that needs more supports
>>521065185I can't I got banned for interacting with rituals
>>521064538People were paid to design, approve and implement shit like this into the game.
>>521059283This has been debunked Richard Reverbarations was harder than gallywix according to preach (a professional)
>>521065219> her
>>521064305He learned the truth, the current CEO of GGG is a retard that refuses to listen to criticism and burns the whole company to the ground
>>521064538>Retards in this thread don't understand it's always 30% more damage for some skills
>>521065361>Its free damage 25% of the time if your not trying to maximize your directionsUhh i guess so?
>>521064538does it just always do full damage if you use a nova style skill that fires all around you?
>>521065223or lower if you are circling him in the wrong direction
>>521065539>/poeg/>playing the game
>>521064538Man...
>>521065461> Listen to employees and customers during 0.1> Make 0.2 overall worseWell okay, maybe it would be better if he didn't listen.
>>521064538>Damage is increased by 30% if Johnathan's brother's dog is currently licking its asshole.>To help players know if they're getting the buff we've added a livestream to the dog's collar so you can watch a 4k view of the asshole getting licked in real time.
>tariffed fat retards woke up
>>521064538>genre where you circle strafe around every boss>make gem that gives you damage while circle strafing around bossI mean even in concept it does make sense but you'd have to play arpgs to know it
putting you all in the image for when this support is inevitably used on the meta bow build
>>521064305Doom overdose, we've been winning a bit too much....
honestly I admire the patience of ggg here. I would have called some questions of ziz and concerns of the community as "fucking retarded" with zero insight on game development - but they can calmly filter that thought out (I'm sure it passed their mind).
>>521065710just socket it in reverse.
>>521065770genre where you one shot every boss*
>Companion with hinder aura>Blasphemy temp chains with curse magnitude and slow magnitude>Combat becomes actually slow and methodical
>>521065432>comparing arcadey arpg fun to the fever dream of a kid watching his edaddy play elden ring
>>521065770So what are you gonna do when boss swings at you and interrupts your circling?
>>521065813GGG should unironically stop talking to the community. Fans are stupid faggots and should be treated as such.
>>521065948yeah, you are a stupid faggot LOL
no one bake we don't deserve it
They just need to playtest their own games and stop treating the first week of every new patch/league like an unofficial beta
>>521065813I would say ziz could have done the same to Johnathan when he insisted that monsters all need to be faster than the player. The game is about killing monsters, skipping them does nothing beneficial. If they don't want players to skip them, then give a reward for killing the slow ones too.
>>521065892>Crackmonkey with Haste+Hexproof+Temp Bubble starts approaching you
>>521065770> When the shill.ezplai s the design behind the skill and it turns out GGG employees are even more mazed than PoE2 players
>>521065913Or when he covers the the area you circle around with degen or other various aoe stuff depending on the boss that doesn't allow you to path there unless you have a death wish.
>using storm lance timed me outokay lmao?
uhh excuse me
JONATHAN YOU FUCKING NIGGER STOP UNPLUGGING THE POE1 SERVERS IM NOT PLAYING YOUR SHITTY GAME
>>521065913press spacebar and continue circling
>>521066146sry bro, didn't know you were playing
I wanted to wait for full launch but I'm kinda feeling the POE itch. Should I play? Is Occult dot witch minions good now?
>>521064538>Current day GGG design
great servers GGG. I think its time to move away from Pentium III data centers
>>521065754Is that your fetish?
>>521065390neck
>>521066259dot witch is busted, as long as you don't mind having your full rotation be exactly 2 buttons.
poe1 is dead, poe2 is boring, diablo is soulless and Last Epoch doesnt have an identity, are ARPGs gonna suffer the same fate as RTS?
I just bought a ryzen 9900x, a 9070XT, and 64GB of ram. Will I be able to play this game without slow downs now?
>>521064294no you fucking incestbabywhy the fuck is that a thing in a game like poe where you won't even notice it for 99% of the timephysics eat resources, if the entire game is filled with small trash like this its no wonder it runs like garbage
>>521065813Johnathan wanted to send the message that they have fixed 0.2 and people who were previously repelled by the state of the game or by discussions around it should login and see for themselves.Otherwise, I agree, I don't see a point in watching streamers bicker with people who aren't even actual devs.
>>521066358OH shit. Is Lich actually that good?
>>521064538Can you please delete this one? The game is still in beta and doesn't need this kind of harrassment for inprogress work.
>>521066259>minionsunplayable garbage>dotone of the few "good" builds but you reach peak at level 4 and it's about as fun as watching paint dry
>>521066403>boob physicsare you seriously complaining you fucking faggoti want boob physics in every game i play
ill wait for a doomie to bake
>>521066358its more like 4 cause ur also regularly casting despair on packs/bosses, and using dark effigy
>>521066403KYS retard. Tit jiggle >>> fps (faggots per second)
>nexus clearing map is now lost due to DC>rolled back all the XPThis is so annoying.
>>521065750didn't they address a bunch of shit people were seething about? all the bad metas everyone hated got nerfed, pinnacle bosses got nerfed, removed 1 portal maps, added more crafting currencies, buffed towers, new skills, new metas, new builds. and in a few days adding more guaranteed currencies to the campaign, adding rare icons to the mini map.. they are even going to reduce the speed of monsters :)they really care!
>>521066474it's shit until you convert to lightning spells, then it's god tier
Chris never listened to the community. It's why poe1 was so good.
>>521063453Damn grandpa what are you doing here? Go be with your family dude.
>>521066146RIP your stash lol
>>521066756>it's shit until you convert to lightning spellsWhat are you even talking about. When exactly does it become shit? Because I'm rolling over T15s with it and no sign of slowing down.
>>521066664doesn't count
>>521066403should be boycotting after they nerfed countess' jiggle so hard but instead you're dickridin. gay.
>>521066582Sure, i agree on that, but again you are missing the fucking point by a mile>>521066652epic, truly epic my fellow gamerman
>>521066823Good one, you'll be here forever anonFor fucking ever
>>521066756>lich>lightningSounds fake and gay. Lich should be using unholy and ice spelks.
poop2? Yeah, still bad.
>>521066664>stealth nerf drop ratesthis is like the root of 99% of the problems in poe2 0.2poe players are dopamine addicts and they can't get their fix without loot.
>>521066817>Chris never listened to the community. It's why poe1 was so good.Not listening to the community is good when you actually have the correct idea for a fun game. It doesn't work when your ideas are shit and your ideal game is something nobody else wants to play. There's nothing inherently good about not listening.
>>521066920why did i expect poe players to be able to read
>>521066839>When exactly does it become shit?from the moment you go booger blaster, do you really have to ask how ed/c is shit when we both know your dps is dogfart and your defenses don't exist lmao
JONATHANIf this guy >>521066582 has boob physics, I want bulge physics!
>>521066096yeah he did sperg out there, it was obvious at one point both sides were talking through each other.>siss: MOBS SHOULDNT ALL BE FASTER THAN THE PLAYERsit down bro they all aren't even at the current state>jonatrans: MOBS SHOUDNT ALL BE SLOWER THAN THE TOONyea bro that's not the ask of zyz, nor the players
>>521066096>monster needs to be a threat, that's the entire point of the game retards>"UUUUHM WHY MONSTER GO FAST? MONSTER KILL PLAYERS BAD NO!?"
>>521067157My DPS allows me to Contagion a pack and move on because they will die from it. 99% of top Liches use ED/C. Are you in the top 10?
>>521064148I’ve been rotating my Deadeye in the mtx screen for 10 minutes now. She’s got some good titty meat when wearing Cloak of Flame.
>>521067143>opinion immediately identified as shit by everyone>THEY JUST CANT READ IS ALL>they can't understand my NEED for performanceread this fag
lightning amazonsisters what skill are you using to electrocute?
>>521066472community feedback is important, and listening to players is. but at the end of the day the decision is with the devs - sure take all the feedback in, but filter out which are actually useful and actionable. this also applies to real life btw
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>>521066838but im ssf
1.25 GAMES1 TROONATHAN MELTDOWN
>>521067667>.25 GAMESthats generous
Daily reminder that both Zizachad and Larry had their way with Jony boy yeaterday
>>521067024To be fair, the drop rates for anything significant is so extremely low right now that you could remove traditional item and currency loot completely from the game, replace them solely with gold and pretty much nothing would change. Right now it's all about grinding for money with whites and blues so you can gamble with the vendor for decent gear. That's how bad the loot and crafting is right now.
>>521067348i'm sorry you're brown, anon
>>521067246*talking past each othersorry esl
>>521067867SUFFER>>521067867SUFFER>>521067867SUFFER>>521067867SUFFER>>521067867SUFFER>>521067867SUFFER
bro just let them cook up 0.3 this is all part of jon's master plan
>>521067348>>opinion immediately identified as shit by everyonehe is 100% correct and "everyone" is literally just you and maybe another actual retard. I just want to chip in to make sure you understand you are the retard here.
>>521067024>poe players are dopamine addicts and they can't get their fix without loot.thats literally what the entire arpg genre is about.retardthats like saying rpg fans are too addicted to the feeling of having lots of dialogue options when talking to characters.
>>521067910Shut up faggot. You suck cocks for a living therefore you are wrong.
>>521067776that's just false. abt a third of my gear was crafted from a white base, a third from the vendor, and the last third are raw drops. maybe one or two pieces are gambled, I really only use it if I have a huge surplus of gold and I haven't replaced a gear piece in a while (something 2 tiers below current drops, for example)
>>521064247>you can be a greater leader while not knowing how to direct the work your team doesNo you cannot. Good leaders lead by example and from the front. Bad leaders bark orders and lack a cohesive understanding of the team. If you don't understand the whole team and every position, how can you know how to make the team function? This iscsort of like saying you can be a good watchmaker without knowing how to build a watch. "
>>521054075>i actually thought blizzard solution for ubers was decent. permanent stacking debuff, a stack every time you get hit.blizz literally just copied that from ff14. normally I would be more charitable and say oh they just had the same idea but this was right after sneedolands so nah its def copied
>>521064468I can only base my mapping experience on what it was in .1. Dull, slow, inconsequential. You kill a pack only to walk slowly to the next. The gameplay feel is really boring. When I tried .2 on release it was in a pitiful state. Ed/c is terribly clunky because they designed contagion to not be an aoe. Huntress suffers from zdps and really clunky combos until you can face roll. There are no interesting unique interactions that were added, the gameplay and crafting is dull and empty
>>521054816>Casual gamers that want to feel like they're playing a hard game but aren't really?yesjonathan literally said he goes home every night and plays the campaign acts (NOT maps or pinnacle bosses) and fights bosses on new characters. the game was made so a middle aged sheepshagger could feel skilled as he rollslops against mediocre souls knockoff bosses in the campaign. Jonathan doesn't map.
>>521066664>new builds>lightning arrow but with a spearLmao
>>521056780>you could tell Ziz was playing devil's advocate by pretending that fast monsters are some kind of recent innovation by GGG instead of being in ARPGs back to Diablo 1.you can kite monsters even at level 1 in diablo
>>521066817>Chris never listened to the community. It's why poe1 was so good.Yet the most positively recieved changes POE1's had in years and the reason people are glazing the game as hard as they're doing now were because Neon actually tested the feedback of players and changed things accordingly.
Can skills that consume the Broken Armor debut also break armor, if you attach gems that add break armor?
>>521050467Doesn't work, in my attempt I couldn't apply the tame beast debuff on that distinct rare.
>turns out, 90% of complaints are by people who get filtered by the early game and haven't even reached a3 normal>9% are by people who get past the great filter, but complain that their build isn't clearing 37 screens with basic league starter gear>the remaining 1% actually criticize important stuff like missing build variety because of stuff like gems linked to weapon classes or the unfun endgamejesus fucking christ, the shitters are right in criticizing the game, but for all the wrong reasons. I can see GGG caving in and making the game piss easy while ignoring all legitimate complaints
>>521054683>requires knowing the fight Dogshit design.
