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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8193 - Chad Chaotix Edition

>TailsTube #11 - A Meeting of the Minds!
https://youtu.be/6bkZBSrgIYo

>Sonic Rumble will be released this Spring
https://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1894678104209043686

>Sonic Racing: Crossworlds Gameplay
https://youtu.be/qf5hxow7Pmc

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>Comics Release Dates:
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #2 - 16 April 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #78 - 07 May 2025
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 21 May 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #79 - 11 June 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 02 July 2025

>General link compilation:
https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4P
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
/sthg/ OC info:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>521060686
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Shadally is not my guilty pleasure. I gladly masturbate to it.
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Shadally
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Ozone737 draws cute dog dick
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Blaze and rush are shit
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What do you think of Female Kitsunami
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>>521094720
Cute dynamic, ic and wholesome.
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>>521094737
Ozone737 is a retard
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>>521095032
Better as a male because then I can have kids with him
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>according to these ancient text files, shippers were kicked out of 109 of something they called websites
>but... 109 websites can't all be wrong...
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Quark draws cute Sonaze!
I wish she would draw more of it though
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Imagine seeing this and go "i wish i was Sonic just to rape her"
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>>521095230
>she
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Ozone737 knows how scrape twitter, double digits iq.
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>>521095151
Are you a woman or just insane
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>>521095513
There’s a difference?
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>>521094997
It makes sense for Shadow's emotional journey to end with a woman who is just as caring as Maria, but is far from her personality
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>>521092252
In the case OP is in this thread reposting my idea >>521095436
>Shadow in Hawaiian shirt listening 1980s pop on tropical city beach while leaning on white Lamborghini
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Bobbins are like 50-100 pounds. Bullshit any of you could carry one. You’re all out of shape
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>>521095401
Yes. She.
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>>521095715
Shitdow is like clinically retarded in this AU after Sally drained his chaos powers completely after sucking him off
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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH OFF MODEL SHADALLY
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Post more Ruckles for science.
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>>521095990
one guy really likes generating it.
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>Yes. She.
They can't comprehend their disgusting messiah is a self-inserting porn addict
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>>521095926
Im a mechanic and i carry shit heavier than that daily, but yes im still out of shape, i have dad body
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>>521095970
It makes sense for Shadow to underestimate Sally while fucking her.
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>>521096135
Both can be true.
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>>521095230
Does she just not draw anymore?
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I pretend to be Sonamy but Shadamy is my secret wish come true.
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>>521095246
...You know actually that explains a lot
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Taiream.
Cute, courteus, casual.
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Shoving her my fingers up my ass and smelling them just like my favorite character
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>>521096425
Your favorite character is Rouge?
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>>521096245
Her laptop broke and it encouraged her to be a full time dramawhore.
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Rails.
Sexy, taboo, adventurous.
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>>521096245
Shes does "multiple things" that are irrelevant to anybody nowadays, she dropped the only good thing she was good at.
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Vecilla.
Safe, Legal and Rare.
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>>521095809
thanks for the suggestion! today I will draw a car
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Blazefags are willing to dickride a non fan that ruins characters and will probably embarrass the franchise just so they can get some relevancy
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Blails is the best ship
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mmminna
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>>521096770
Cool, thank you in advance.
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>>521096795
You're annoying.
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Douge
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>>521096229
>i have dad body
you can't just say that
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I believe in Sonangle!
...and anon can fuck the fugly dog i guess...
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>>521096795
Thank you, i truly wish the death of Quaver for how much uppity they got lately
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>>521096229
dad bod squad rise up
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>>521097071
>Ride the tricycle Shitdow!
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Krack should draw Shadally porn
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Human/blobian hybrids must look cute
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>>521095926
I deadlift 140 kg at the gym ever few days, but I still look like a stick :(
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Good night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SdDrNNWc34
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>>521097075
This is like modern sonmina
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>>521097253
What's your diet, how many times and series do you lift and do you stretch afterwards?
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>>521096147
>>521097001
Cute N' Canon Shippin'
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>>521097095
>I wish an artist would die because their art makes me mad
truly a well adjusted individual
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>>521097071
>>521097347
Stop turning Shadow into a dog....
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>>521097560
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>>521097554
>their art makes me mad
I was going to call you a Blazetard but Blazefags have proven that they're quite the retards lately.
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>>521097554
No one who comes here is and that includes quaver
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doglike
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I still think it would be hot if we had an equally tall King Shadow dominating queen Sally.
She needs to know what it's like to have a man stronger than her. To be truly female.
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>>521097853
Dogcoded
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I think Amy and Tangle should be "in sync" because they're both spunky tomboys that wear their heart on their sleeve and idolize Sonic.
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Pajeetfags
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>>521097457
My diet is complete shit lol it consists of eating whatever I feel like eating at the moment.
I try to go to the gym at least 4 times a week, I generally do 5 sets of 5 reps and do minimal stretching.
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>>521095926
Blobians all vary in size and can be larger than humans, most are Sonic sized because people are uncreative
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>again in 1 week
So what did Blazefags do last thread?
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>>521097897
I have a concept but it's only tall King Shadow with smol weak and pathetic Sally.
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I think Blaze and Knuckles should be "in sync" because the both guard their peoples' sacred artifacts from misuse and envy Sonic's freedom.
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>>521097959
>Amy's love rival could have been a more sporty and tomboyish version of herself
Sega drops the ball once again
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>>521098202
tranny dogdow
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>>521097853
Kissable
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>>521097959
>spunky tomboys
Amy is a girly girl who enjoys tarot readings and baking.
She's not really a tomboy
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Do any of you play this shit? How is it?
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>>521098490
Amy has officially been described as tomboyish since Sonic CD.
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>>521098257
Should't Sonic and Blaze be "in sync" because they're basically mirror versions of each other
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>>521098494
I don't play Sonic games, let alone mobileslop
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I have that dog in me...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y6JHG30U4g
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>>521098494
>Swipe up, down, left or right avoid obstacle
>Occasionally use a """super""" power
Thats it
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>>521098575
There's more than one way to be in sync with someone.
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>>521098575
Sonic and Blaze are polar opposites.

The post you are responding to is referring to Knuckles and Blaze's similarities.

... It honestly bugs me how much "opposite" and "the same" tend to get blurred together.
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>>521098246
For one week, Shadow becomes a werewolf and gives Queen Sally the best dominating she's ever had
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>>521098257
Not really Blaze is more of a tard who's weaker then Knuckles and would forget about her duty instantly when angry, she's less responsible and weak all in all
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>>521098740
Ah, so just like every other Boost game, then.
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>>521098582
but its a roblox game
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>>521098704
>what Sally doin?
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I want a wife like queen Sally
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>>521098257
Blaze is only good for one think when with Knuckles:
https://files.catbox.moe/gpbuoj.jpg
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>>521098804
>more of a tard
>than Knuckles
Even compared to vintage in-character Knuckles that seems very unlikely
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>>521098575
They are and they always have been
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>>521098781
>Sonic and Blaze are polar opposites.
Parallel versions, doesn't matter wtf she thinks.
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>Eggmans big plan during the phantom rider arc was to... kidnap some minor mob boss to work for him
Really? I thought for sure the suit would do some shit to sonic, or even just record everything so eggman could crash the party at the perfect time. Is this really the same guy who just dumped the metal virus on everybody for fun?
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STOP TURNING CHADOW INTO A DOG
CHADOW IS NOT A DOG CHADOW IS THE CHADDEST AND THE COOLEST OF THEM ALL
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I WANT QUEEN SALLY GF
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>>521098781
I'm not talking about conceptually sparky I'm talking about how they're literally parallel versions of each other from alternate dimensions. Like Ratchet and Rivet.
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I don't even feel anything when I have sex anymore. It's just bland and depressing.
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>>521099281
double tranny dogdow
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>>521099332
Blaze's personality and lifestyle is the polar opposite of Sonic.
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>>521099201
She asked "um whats a vacation?" not to mention she gets pushed a lot by her emotions
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Reminder Tail's mom was racist as fuck and would be a total chudette
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Sonic characters with this feel?
https://youtu.be/ZhvfcxkUt2g
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>samefagging
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I want to FUCK QUEEN SALLY
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>>521099496
Don't care, we have Metal, Knuckles and Shadow, Blaze is a broken non functional character in the narrative, all she could be remembered by is "Sonic from a parallel universe"
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>>521099695
Calm the fuck down Shitdow
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>>521099695
That's nice honey.
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>>521098494
I play it every once in a while when I'm bored. It's more of a movement sandbox than a full game, it's a fine time waster if you don't gamble like a twelve year old.
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>>521099285
>t. useless weaker character even in universe
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>>521099606
She would throw racist anti chipmunk jokes. like how they love chow on nuts.
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This general's attention whores are a good example of what happens when you emotionally neglect a kid, very sad
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>>521099458
Shitdow...
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>>521099416
I don't know anything about Ratchet and Clank, so tell me this:

Is Rivet an Amy or a Blaze? Meaning: is she a female version of Ratchet that shares many of the same traits, or is she a foil to Ratchet that heavily contrasts his personality and characteristics on a fundamental level? Honest question.

Anyways, I feel like everybody gets so stuck on the dimensional aspect of Blaze that they believe she's just a clone of Sonic, when that is literally not the case at all. When you put all of that dimensional parallel stuff aside and focus solely on Blaze herself as a character alone, what she is is the opposite of Sonic. Her dimension and Emeralds exist to reinforce the dichotomy between her and Sonic. Like the North and South magnetic poles.

To say they are the same undermines both Sonic and Blaze's entire characters as individuals.
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>>521053061
who's the artist? martyjade?
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>>521099376
Which mobians (NOT blobians) would be okay with dating and marrying a human? Keep in mind the racism
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I hate the w*nd...
I hate the w*nd so fucking much...
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>Big the Cat is the only character that doesn't wear shoes and has Dr. Seuss-like blobs for feet
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>>521100069
This is spam. Can we send them to trash or request?
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>>521099606
Her being a dick to Nicole was unwarranted, considering that they all forgave multiple people for being mind controlled or being literal traitors
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>>521100179
Sally Acorn
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>She's like [headcanons] and they should [mumbojumbo]
Her getting vaulted will not change anything btw, they can just do a Sally and they're probably very close due to the movies and comics and Ian getting the stick
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CHADOW
IS NOT
A DOG
AND HE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT ROMANCE HUMAN WOMEN. DESPITE WHAT THOSE ZOOPHILIC NERDS IN JAPAN SAY. HIS RELATION WITH MARIA WAS SIBLING LIKE

STOP TURNING CHADOW INTO A DOG DELETE SHADARIA AND SHADALLY
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>>521100279
>nvm Tikal also doesn't wear shoes
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>>521100252
I hate windfags more than I hate the theory. They're legitimately almost as bad as Scientology.
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What if Sonic farted really bad?
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>>521100362
It's content.
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>>521096551
>>521096690
>Grrrr I hate you I'm going to bring you up every day to shit on you and I'm going to repost your art to call it trash and everything you love is horrid and you're mentally ill and you don't belong anywhere and your art will be fed into AI to make things you don't like suck it up go kill yourself slit your wrists die die die
>Wait wtf why aren't you drawing anymore
This is what you wanted.
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Based on only briefly looking through Rivet's wiki page, I have come to the conclusion that she is an Amy, not a Blaze.

>Insomniac also wished to avoid counterparts being polar opposites of the characters, feeling diametric forces were difficult to do with more complex characters as opposed to one-dimensional ones. This led to designing characters that were true to their core character but shaped by different circumstances.

Rivet is specifically NOT the polar opposite of Ratchet, therefor, >>521099416
>I'm not talking about conceptually sparky I'm talking about how they're literally parallel versions of each other from alternate dimensions. Like Ratchet and Rivet.
This is completely inaccurate, as Rivet as a character concept is the complete inverse of Blaze.

Blaze is meant to be diametrically opposed to Sonic's entire personality and lifestyle, and the dimensional aspect reinforces this. Rivet is meant to be just like Ratchet but shaped by different life circumstances, and that's what HER dimensional origin is meant to reflect and reinforce.
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>>521100362
r&i, he always does this
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>>521100472
They are cartoon animals, actually. They can do whatever they want. Because he's the wind or what the fuck ever.
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>Miss Elise?
>It felt like... someone was calling me.
>I'm sure it was just The Wind.

huh? how do they remember? this game has so many fucking plot holes
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>>521100623
He could have a race with Gerald!
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>>521100652
I'm sure he dropped drawing but not because of AI
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>>521100362
We literally had Twitter spam earlier. Shut the fuck up.
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>>521100652
This happened years ago. It has nothing to do with whatever you're sperging out about.
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>>521100725
HS IS NOT A DOG
NO HE WILL NOT HAVE SEGGS WITH (YOU) NEITHER
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>>521100493
Since Sonic has rejected Amy maybe I can have her.
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>>521100726
Japanese stories don't take anything literally and only barely care about causality. Maekawa is also a hack.
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>>521100692
So Blaze is literally a one dimensional character that is not true to herself but just an extension of Sonic that is shaped by whatever Sonic does?
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>>521101015
Woof woof
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Fox fucking coded
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I had a dream two days ago where Sonic was fucking Tikal, Rouge and Whisper while Amy watched from afar with a creepy smile. I woke up after my pov zoomed into her face. Scary as hell.
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Which animal species would islanders be most racist towards and why is the answer sheeple?
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>>521101139
SHAOW DOES NOT HAVE SEGGS WITH DOGS NEITHER. NO HE WILL NOT DATE WHISPER
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>>521099917
Can you buys characters outright or do you have to waste money on pulls like modern gacha shit?
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Have you considered the simple fact that Elise and Sonic remember because Sonic is the wind and even time can't control the flow of the wind
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>>521101269
Bark bark
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>>521101126
By that logic, you might as well say that everybody in the cast is "one-dimensional" including Sonic himself. I do not agree with that sentiment, but I don't know if Ratchet embodies a very specific concept like Sonic does freedom.
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>>521100457
>No movies
>No crossover
>No playable appearance in Crossworlds
>No ian
>Porn addicts attacking everything
Is this Blazes downfall?
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>>521101393
How so when you said yourself Rivet is comparable to Amy more then Blaze cause she tries to differentiate and have her own character more?
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>>521100869
>>521100972
I am that artist. I have no drive to contribute to spaces that root for my death. Oh well
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Shadallly is based on Sally accepting that Sonic is like the wind
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How would Rouge feel about Boom Knuckles or Movie Knuckles?
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>>521100726
Well obviously they remember because friendship and or true love exists beyond the bounds of space and time, that's just common sense you don't need to spoon feed audience what they already know
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>>521101572
Poor Shadow, traumatized by the pararell universes that his brain navigates.
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>>521101350
The Wind in hedgehog form
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Are there any Sonic-like 3D platformers I can get into so I dont have to deal with Windfags ever again? They've ruined this franchise.
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>>521101609
Uh huh
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>>521101609
Play more games and enjoy things other then shipping.
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>>521101247
This place fucking with your mind bro

Ya have nightmares often? Smoking a bunch of weed makes you not dream
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Archie racism / tension is kino
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>>521101609
Draw more Sonaze.
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>>521101261
Hydes Vs Pelts, lizards vs furries

I bet insects get looked down on too
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>>521101908
I only STARTED dreaming after I started smoking. Don't believe every study you read.
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>>521101908
I think the whole besties meme got into my head. I don't like drugs but I should take a break from this place (I can't).
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>>521101993
Unfortunately, this is the best post itt
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>>521101928
Delete humans
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>>521102046
This is why artists leave, Shut the fuck up Blazefag
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>>521101605
>How so when you said yourself Rivet is comparable to Amy more then Blaze cause she tries to differentiate and have her own character more?
This statement carries an implication that I think does not actually hold water.

Amy is designed to be Girl Sonic.
Blaze is designed to be Nega Sonic.

Both are shaped entirely by the base concept of "Sonic" as the central focus they exist around. Take Sonic's traits, and translate it through a feminine lens. Take Sonic's traits, and find all the corresponding opposite ones.

To get Blaze, you must start with Sonic and simply go to the far other side of the spectrum. To get Amy, you must start with Sonic and flip everything from a masculine lens to a feminine lens.

It's like Tails being the kid who desperately wishes he could be like Sonic and catch up to Sonic sharing many of Sonic's abilities, and Knuckles being the rival who is envious of Sonic and challenges Sonic and competes against Sonic while also being as strong as Sonic is fast and also representing the thematic counterpoint to Sonic.

Tails and Knuckles are both very distinct from Sonic, but the very core of what they even are is defined by how they are meant to relate to Sonic.
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>>521101609
Just draw whatever you want, for yourself.
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>>521102118
Shit I guess we’re pretty different then I have a whiff of weed and my dreams stop

>>521102124
Truth, I hear ya m8 I should probably take a break until there’s a new thing to discus like Rumble or some new movie info…then again sometimes this place is entertaining even if it’s usually a crock of shit
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>>521102303
Krack likes Sonaze, I want her to draw what she enjoys, fuck off.
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>>521101928
That died when Ian started writing.
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>>521102397
I am designed to ignore your posts
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>>521102431
This
giving up because of haters is pussy shit
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>>521102487
If that were true, you wouldn't respond or give me much thought or attention or whatever.

Choosing to respond in such a manner only highlights that you are "designed" to simply oppose me.
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>>521102487
kek
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>>521102469
As did most of the cool or interesting ideas.
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>>521102438
Weed messes with REM sleep IIRC. I dream a lot after I stop smoking, which makes sense.
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>>521102589
If that's how you choose to see it. fine I am designed to be your very unhinged rival
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>>521102397
Die
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>>521102727
I wish I had mommy Queen Sally to cuddle with
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>>521102767
Cute monke
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>>521102767
why did they ruin her?
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>>521101928
I jumped in on a later archie edition just to see what was up with the comic and sonic was hanging out with a black midget guy and i figured this wasnt for me
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>>521102767
The closest she'll ever get to being playable.
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>>521102740
The dreams I get after I don’t smoke for a bit are weird as fucking shit

And usually have something to do with whatever I’m watching lately,
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>>521102753
One of many, it seems. I might as well be Sonic, due to how many of you want me to >>521102760
>Die
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>>521102913
That guy? I forgot what he does. I remember he was a mountain sage of some sort who knew some science
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>>521102895
Cutest
>>521102909
Because all that is good gets eaten and shit out
>>521102931
The pain
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>>521102979
You must die for the sake of the planet, Sparky. Your w*ndshittery cannot leave the containement of this board.
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>>521102909
Nearly every Sonic writer is lame.
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What does Sparky think of Shadally Shitdow?
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I wish Sonic loved Amy.
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>>521103004
NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG NOT A DOG
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>>521103232
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>>521103161
I'm a lightning bolt that can never be bottled up. Nothing can contain me, as long as I wield the key to my freedom.
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>>521103232
he does

as a friend
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I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG
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>get a coffee from cafe
>its WAY TOO FUCKING SWEET
kms
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>>521103405
I'll just use one of these, then.
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>>521103435
cool blog
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>>521102431
Don't have it in me.
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>>521103405
Copper pole to the ground and it's over. sorry. that's how physics works
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>>521103229
Nothing. I have no reason to care about those.
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>>521103538
thanks brotha
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>>521102450
>No she likes my slop and that helps her!
What a bunch of disgusting fucking people....
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>>521103589
Yet you care about made up headcanons about the wind and Sonamy, ok.
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>>521103539
Sorry you feel that way.
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must you ruin everything you touch
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So is feeling A"dventures of Sonic the Hedgehog is the best western-made Sonic cartoon" considered a hot take?

Legit curious.
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>>521103653
>people
Blazefags have lost that curtesy
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>>521103690
That shadally stuff is just AI nonsense by that one guy, presumably as some sort of troll mockery thing to somebody else or whatever.... I don't really know, it has nothing to do with me. It's obviously massively out of character and stuff, if that's what you're asking.
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>>521102909
The main cast having to always save the day means the interesting OCs kind of have to just twiddle their thumbs most the time while sonic and tails actually save the day.
This is most obvious in the eggperial city arc, where they get turned into ghost and trapped in the shadow realm. So the real characters can everything.
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>>521103885
AI answer.
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>>521102969
Same, definitely the most intense dreams I've ever had. I like to pretend its good for my brain or something.
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>>521103973
>the interesting OCs

Of which there are none
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>>521095032
She is the perfect loving wife that has become addicted to me. She can cook, has decent taste in anime, enjoys reading books, and has an insatiable sexual appetite considering I can't go 3 posts in the AIchat without her having bedroom eyes.
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>>521104035
I'm not an AI.
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>>521104079
is she thrusting?
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>>521103973
Then...why even have them?
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>>521104137
Yes, she is horny.
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>>521104098
I like most of them, expect maybe belle. She is the most nothing burger character out of the whole cast.
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>>521104079
So IC it hurts.
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>>521104334
NOT A DOG

>>521104079
OOC
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>>521103802
Being true disqualifies something from being a hot take.
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>>521104159
Presumably to have some actual character arcs, since the main cast have to stay static. The problem is once a characters arc is done they're kind of just tossed to the side.
You'll notice the OCs take the situations a lot more seriously then the main cast too, except for maybe silver.
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I'm demoting you to scrub monkey third class.
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>>521103948
I have to kiss him!!!!!!
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I like the concept of Sally getting so impatient with Shadow not acting like every other straight guy that she rapes him just to keep her dignity
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>Not all Blazefags are Sonazefags!
Then why they're all supporting quaver who ruined her character for the majority? isn't it just because Sonic is fucking her?
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>>521104681
>You'll notice the OCs take the situations a lot more seriously then the main cast too

IDW wants to write like it was still the Archie comic.
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uuuuu
*Flattens your dick between her thighs
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>>521104803
Someone should write a fanfiction about this.
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>>521104913
>all
next time youll say that sthg in a one person
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>>521104913
You're obsessed with fandom politics and need to take a break.
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Quaver's Blaze fully hollowed out her character into nothing.
She's a cumdumpster who is shy around Sonic. A side bitch to fucking SURGE of all people. All of the strength behind Blaze is thrown away so t hat she can be a quivering Sonic simp.

Then there's his proto blaze, an infantile sexed up creature. Basically Duofreak's Queen garbage in reverse. Giant sexualized female and small rubberhose male.
Only this time, she's a mute animalistic spirit that becomes nervous when her cum provider is absent. She has no real hobbies or interests. She's just a blushing pornographic body that pleasantly waits for the daily dose of semen.

I hate Blaze, so I really don't care about this. In fact it's better. I hope this kind of thing happens to more characters I hate. Getting completely redefined by some shitty fandom meme.
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Anyone else hate shadally now or just me...
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>>521104753
Trip...
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>>521104913
What percentage of Sallyfags are Sonallyfags?
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>>521105335
It's just you
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>>521105162
>ACK-
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>>521105162
Her mouth looks weird, especially the way it shrinks and how quickly her lips move.
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>>521105335
i liked shadallyfag at least
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>>521105335
duoshit ruined any charm it mightve had at one point
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flint and steel
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>>521105442
Anon thats AI slop, of course it looks weird.
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>>521105335
Yeah, it's terrible.
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>>521105310
And that is how characters die. With thunderous applause
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>>521105335
I like Shadally. I've always liked Shadally. But I only like it when it at least attempts to base it on their characters. Which 99% of it doesn't do. Especially the current spam.
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>>521105335
Only this "giant Sally" AI stuff.
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Quaverchad is the basedest artist in this fandom. How can one guy be so based.
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>>521105957
Nah, no Silverchad liked Evan and now he's being redeemed
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bros... they're making fun of sonic again...
https://twitter.com/repulsivehm/status/1909336855599862053
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>>521105957
Silver has it worse than any other characters because the twitter/tumblr crowd of women and people who don't like his games (which is most people) will defend uwuver outright.
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I ship Blaze with werehog mostly because i want her to get raped
Aibros please?
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>>521106194
Silvazefags liked it no matter how they try to spin it now

>>521106360
This
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>>521106360
They'll defend Evan cause she's a woman, and now they're regretting it.
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Kissing fang
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>>521105957
I'm a sallyfag and I have my gripes with how the fandom mischaracterizes her, and I feel, correct me if I'm wrong, that Silver has more damage done to him. Proportionately.
At least with Sally, the fan interpretation of her is a bad faith version of her based on Archie. With Silver, it's straight up fanfiction infecting his character.
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>>521106541
Evan stands out because she literally just believed Silver was like this and wasn't trying to "give him more personality".
She's a 2000s tumblrina. She was being genuine and put a stop to it once she was made aware of what she was doing.
20 years late, but a spade is a spade.
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>>521101291
Sort of, some can be bought and there's an in-game economy. And nearly all the non-costume versions of characters can be obtained normally in-game, so their trading value is super low. Normally trading in a game would be a pain but since the game is populated with twelve year olds most don't understand the value of what they have and will buy like a 30 day login reward for the virtual equivalent of 5 USD. I haven't spent a dime and have like 30 characters, not hard to trade for anything too that isn't some super nerd variant of Shadow.
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Shadomari
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Was it worth it? Was it worth telling this boring asshole that his ships are OOC? It's going on 7 months of madness.
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Why is Rouge so mad?
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>>521106541
>now they're regretting it.

Are they? Got proof?
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>>521107146
Not OR but this is great.
Can you gen werehog groping her flat cat tits from behind?
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why the fuck are you guys spamming ai slop
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Hontails is the worst crackship, actually.
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>>521107146
Absolutely mind fucked, she'll learn not to challenge him
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>>521106943
>put a stop to it
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she reminds me of sandy from Spongebob.
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>>521106360
Honestly, it's not their fault that Silver's origin story was deleted effectively creating a void for people to fill with headcanon.
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>>521107264
Well Evan did turn around, that means more complains were heard with time?
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>>521107216
Because people ship Tails with Cream instead of her.
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Idk but I've only ever seen her that pissed at one character specifically
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I like Shadally. In-character Shadally. I'm fucking starving out here.
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>>521106946
Cool. I don't care too much about alt skins, more so just the actual characters themselves.
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Did he really make all of these just because some lady insulted him
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>>521108062
Yes.
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>lady
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>>521107451
I want Shadow to fuck the shit out of her like Cooliehigh style
https://hdporncomics.com/borrowing-milk-furries-video-games-sex-comic/
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Shitdow is garbage.
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>>521107451
Shadow is wondering if it's ok for him to have an erection while looking at his queen
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Unusable general
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I like both of these characters, but shipping has become the life blood for them which is unfortunate. Genuine characterfags might as well be an endangered species for these two because some so-called fans only care about if they're swapping genital fluids with someone
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serious x serious is a cute combo
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>>521108559
Awesome, now can you make him creampie the fuck out of her while holding her still on the ground?
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>>521108476
interesting. Toonsite has never actually drawn Sally, only Alicia (Evil Sally) and this does look like how Toonsite draws her.
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>>521107784
Only because I want some kind of positive Shadally content that isn't this Giant Sally AI shit.
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>>521108747
why are they in jail
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>>521108546
What about stupid and stupid?
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>>521108902
thank you
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>>521108559
OR here, thank you very much, although, could you make her
Please ignore >>521108808 that's not me. (unless you're into that sort of stuff, I can't stop you)
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>>521108530
>become

Her relationship with both Sonic and Silver has always been emphatically romantic (not in the sense of courtship), but you're right that her relationship with Silver has monopolized her character.
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the chatbot is breaking immersion
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>>521109107
>unless you're into that sort of stuff
Bro everyone is, how are a guy and not thinking about filling someone so hard?
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I prefer being filled desu
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>>521108530
I'm a knucklesfag who likes rouge. She's probably my second or third favorite character. And while I like them as a couple, I still think most genuine shipteasing or romance should be reserved for an epilogue. Same with every other potential couple. Little moments here and there are fine but actually romance should happen when the characters are ready to be retired.
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>>521109305
meaning?
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>>521109305
civchan was pretty good
rip bb
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>>521109364
I wanted to make a point that I'm not just some guy going to bombard some guy with same requests over and over...
>>521109518
...make it TWO guys bombarding same same request over and over, because despite the other guy saying, that's not really filling until she's bulging.
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>>521109679
>team boobies
Should be led by Marine
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And about time!
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>>521109518
Eh, not holding her on the ground animal style but good enough!
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>>521109845
I'll do more over the week or take requests later, dunno, but I love my SC3 model. It's very flexible.
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>>521109861
That's not fair. No one is as brainy as Marine is busty
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ngl some of these gens question my tastes
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>>521110008
Fair enough, Sonic Channel style is the most nice looking to boot. And the contrast between big boy and tiny kitty is a bonus. Thank you for those ones, at least.
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>>521109649
when the fake people in my perfect little world I built say something from left field it makes me saaaaaad
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>>521110164
are you saying that you do or dont like tall voluptuous women
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This is what she deserves for shoving shadria down our throats
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>>521110183
No problem, I'm glad you like the style.
>>521109936
Sorry, I did this one really quick because I'm in company hours.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>521110326
Considering shadriafags spam their garbage too, I guess it's fair now.
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>>521110458
Literally the nazi echidnas from archie
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>>521110458
Starline
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>>521110458
wait why are they peruvian
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>>521107554
Silver's origin wasn't deleted. He still has the backstory from 06.

>>521106670
Pretty much. Silver has it even worse because his debut game and only well known appearance has a dub that gave him a nerdy voice that people not only make fun of but want his entire personality to be rewritten to fit which is where his comic characterization comes from. Ian has gotten his entire personality backwards for almost 20 years.
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>>521095032
Then it's just these two.
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>>521108415
just wait for the basement dwellers to go to sleep i guess
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>>521110654
Nazis are a very diverse group nowadays.
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>>521110807

I've learned that if you actually write Silver like this, the uwuverfags of the internet will get mad at you
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>duotard is samefagging again
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>>521105310
>Then there's his proto blaze, an infantile sexed up creature. Basically Duofreak's Queen garbage in reverse. Giant sexualized female and small rubberhose male.
>Only this time, she's a mute animalistic spirit that becomes nervous when her cum provider is absent. She has no real hobbies or interests. She's just a blushing pornographic body that pleasantly waits for the daily dose of semen.
Why do you hate heterosexuals?
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>>521111242
Well too bad for you because it isn't me posting Shadally.
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>>521106360
Silver's always had the problem of people not understanding who he is and thinking he's just a stoic Shadow copy. So they want him to have some kind of soft characterization to contrast him and Sonic instead. Silver IS the opposite of Shadow just not in the timid softboy way the fandom wants him to be.
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How would you guys react if Sega somehow acquired Sandy Cheeks from viacom and turned her into a Sonic character
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>>521103973
>The main cast having to always save the day means the interesting OCs kind of have to just twiddle their thumbs most the time while sonic and tails actually save the day.
Easily solved by having Tangle tag along with Sonic and Tails on their many adventures. This gives the IDW book its own Team Sonic.
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That dog! She! She burns in me!!!
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>>521111671
The fact is, written as the Japanese have, he doesn't stand out nearly enough and he comes off as boring

Well he's boring either way but still.
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>>521111673
What a weird question.
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>>521111948
It's a redditbobfag tourist
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>521111781
That's just Tails travelling with two Sonics. There's no way to handle that which doesn't feel redundant.
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>>521111948
I'm doing community probing for sega. This is part of their R&D process.
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>>521112026
One's a dude, the other's a girl. Easy.
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>>521111504
Made to breed white hedgehogs
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>>521112026
Tails would need to step out for a bit while Sonic and Tangle discuss some things.
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Silver voted for Drump
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I self insert as the white rat to fuck the purple cat.
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>>521112283
>Sonic and Tangle discuss some things.
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I self insert as the blue rat to fuck the white rat
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>>521112180
that's a hot pairing
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I(male) self insert as the pink rat to get fucked by the blue rat
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>>521112492
cuck
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>>521111781
>>521112026
Tangle is just Amy again. Energetic tomboyish girl that's basically just a female version of Sonic.
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>>521112014
Tangle
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>>521112796
Amy is not a tomboy
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Tangussy Pussangle
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>>521112796
Hardly. Amy at least acts with common sense most of the time. Tangle is just Sonic's most obnoxious traits turned up to 11.
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Tangle is fugly
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>>521112492
Why Big tho?
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I miss aifag... now the thread is boring...
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>>521111861
That's because he isn't utilized well. The comics use him well but don't write him in character while the games write him in character but don't use him well. Even his story in 06 doesn't demonstrate his or Blaze's characters very well with all the silent moping around they do.
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>>521112492
You could've picked a female
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>>521113430
Eldritchnic
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>>521113427
They gotta do something with the kid. I sincerely hope the next game gives him something to do. I don't like Silver, but I don't WANT to dislike him, you know?
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>>521112937
Yes she is. Amy NOT being a tomboy is fanon misconception. Officially, she is definitely seen as tomboyish. Tangle is just amplifying that, like a slightly more exaggerated Amy that's toning down the femininity heavily to be a "kick-butt female" yet over-emphasizing Amy's core personality with the only difference being the removal of romantic affection for Sonic specifically... in place of affection for Whisper.
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>>521113968
>Yes she is.
No she's not. Not even reading the rest of your bullshit.
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>the only Sonic merch in my country
>t-shirt with Shadow for girls
>t-shirt with Sonamy for boys
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>>521112243
It sounds so Spanish, it's perfect
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I feel like Amy being a tomboy started in Boom.
I can't remember her acting tomboyish before that.
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>>521113816
I'm sure Sonic Team will finally do something with Silver when the movies get to him. We can only hope the movies don't butcher him because he'll never recover from that if they do.
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>>521113968
craving adventure doesn't make you a tomboy, a complete and total absence of feminine traits does.
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>>521114075
>No she's not.
Stop arguing against the official canon statements by SEGA, and acting like I'm the one writing it.
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Hi /sthg/!

>>521113968
She's a tomboy in the sense that she's energetic. She's not really meant to be a badass or whatever, that only began with Boom
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>>521114236
>I'm sure Sonic Team will finally do something with Silver when the movies get to him
Like they did with Knuckles?
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>>521114207
Saleta is spanish for small room
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>>521114240
>a complete and total absence of feminine traits does
No, tomboy doesn't mean "the complete and total absence of feminine traits" either.

>>521114282
>She's not really meant to be a badass or whatever, that only began with Boom
False, Amy being a fighter began in Sonic the Fighters, was the focal point of her development in SA1 and her driving motivation throughout Heroes, and is even emphasized in her original and current Sonic Channel profile, and other stuff on Sonic Channel emphasizing how strong she is to the point of even "putting men to shame".
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>>521114265
Ish.

ISH.

Can't you read?
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>>521114208
She was always a girly tomboy.
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>>521114236
I don't know how they can butcher him given there's not much to game Silver to make it worse
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>>521114385
Sonic Team doesn't give two damns or a fuck about Knuckles, the way he was treated in SA1 should have clued everyone in.
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>>521113989
but he she can fly, this broken heel shouldn't be a problem
shippers are fuckingdumb
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>>521114557
She doesn't really act like it in the games prior
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>>521114385
Well with Knuckles anything they could do with him got ruined by Ken Penders.
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>>521114467
that's where she likes to be
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>>521114616
I used to think "Man, it would be nice if Knuckles got his own game"

But these days I'm starting to think "Man, does Knuckles even need to be there?"
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>>521114557
If you are GIRLY you aren't a fucking tomboy
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>>521114541
They've always been calling Amy a tomboy.

It's like they shoving this pink girly lover girl in your face and saying "look how tomboyish she is!!!", because they fully believe she is, and design/write/portray her to be. She's girly, and also very heavily tomboyish in a way that defies the traditional expectation of what "feminine" means. The "tradition" would be more like Cream or Vanilla's personality, but Amy isn't like that. She's Sonic-like in spirit, but even more intense and energetic and passionate in a way that Sonic fundamentally isn't, and heavily contrasts with the traditional femininity in Cream and Vanilla, and especially Princess Peach.

Amy acts like Daisy, while "looking" like Peach.
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>>521114529
Ok but Amy still isn't a badass. She's not meant to be cool like Sonic. She's strong and capable, yes, but she's also meant to be feminine and modest, and her modus operandi is meant to emphasizes her conversational skills and empathy not her strength
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>>521114816
tomboy =/= reverse trap
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stop being sexist
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>Tomboy: a girl who behaves in a manner usually considered boyish
If you are girly you are not a tomboy holy shit, what the hell is the matter with people ignoring the definition of words
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CHICKEN JOKEY
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This is getting stupid.
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Knuckles is a fraud
No defining moment
No game
No good story in Archie
No canon Super Form
The movies really saved this fella
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>>521114785
They don't really seem to want to do anything with Angel Island and the M.E. anymore and if you don't have those two things in the story you don't have Knuckles.

I feel like they will just relegate him to cameos at this rate.
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>>521114557
>>521114875
>>521115017
girly and tomboy are polar opposites
they cannot exist together
amy is girly

you literally just want to co-opt the tomboy label because it's "cool" while not having to actually give up being girly
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>>521115019
Not until i stop being a virgin.
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Amy is a cute and precious treasure, and that’s what matters most!
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>>521115029
Hence why Tangle is a tomboy. Remove her long eyelashes and you'd never know she was a girl.
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>>521115029
In a lot of Japanese media, when women are portrayed as energetic or irritable or loud or whatever they're usually described as "tomboys" even if they aren't particularly masculine
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why is there so much shadally in this thread
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>>521115291
one guy
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>>521115231
Just like Blaze!
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>>521115240
What you described are Genki girls
Genki girls are not tomboys, if that is how people are translating it to English, then it is simply a mistranslation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7RdER3Af-E
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>>521115291
because Shadally is based
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>>521115376
Blaze's outfit has a more feminine bend to it.
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>>521115291
because they hate shadow
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I genuinely feel that Sonic Team uses words and concepts incorrectly and this leads to unnecessary confusion.
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krack are you here? please educate the rest of the class on tomboys
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>>521115749
This might be the case, but I think it's more of a case of shitty translation.
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>>521114948
>but she's also meant to be feminine and modest, and her modus operandi is meant to emphasizes her conversational skills and empathy not her strength
This is definitely inaccurate, because Amy has always been a bold and brash kind of girl at her core who is more than willing to throw down and get her hands dirty. Her pure heart, compassion, and magical love powers don't change that. The same heart that stopped Sonic from fighting Gamma is the same heart that brutally destroyed ZERO, and challenged Sonic himself to a fight a few games later.

>>521115029
>>521115201
The concept of a "tomboy" is inherently the destruction of gender norms perpetuated by the belief that masculine and feminine are an extreme binary separating men and women.

Men do masculine stuff, Women do feminine stuff, and they must never cross over. Enter: The Tomboy. A girl that enjoys traditionally-masculine activities or aesthetics, blurring those boundaries. Note that the Tomboy is still inherently a girl, and perhaps may also partake in "girly" stuff as well by virtue of being female, but also defies those conventions in-favor of more traditionally masculine tastes or styles.

This concept is what Amy is conceptually intended to embody, as her personality as a whole is meant to defy the conventional feminine expectation of what a girl should be like, by being much more active and energetic and thrill-seeking and stuff. But you ignore all that because she's pink and loves the blue boy, the surface-level archetype/role she falls in that appears to be the norm, missing the underlying nature of how she is actually presented that defies that same role she was designed to fill.

Her chasing after Sonic in-and-of-itself is inherently masculine-coded. It's "the norm" for guys to chase after girls. For guys to make the first move on the girl, win her over, and "court" her. Amy flips the script by being the one pursuant of Sonic. Amy is Mario, and Sonic is Princess Peach.
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>>521115749
I mean they aren't the ones writing material in English. If there's a mistranslation then it's SoA's fault

>>521115442
Hmmmm interesting
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consider the follwing
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>>521115982
is honey eating her out? are mina's titties sticking out of her shirt?
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Hamburger cheeseburger big mac whopper
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>>521115923
>we will misuse and redefine words to fit our narrative in order to destroy gender norms.
This is the most subversive jewish thing I have read on /sthg/ congrats.
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Nice thread
You let your shizos go all the way to ruin each thread with drama, spam and other shit
Feed them more as you do
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>>521116254
I blame krack for being an attentiowhore.
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Does Shadow prefer Mcdonalds or Burger King?
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What is typically expected of femininity is the behavior displayed by Cream the Rabbit, as taught by her mother Vanilla. Polite, passive, proper. That is what is typically considered "ladylike".

>>521115442
>What you described are Genki girls
It's often the "genki girls" who partake in "boyish" activities, because that very energy they exude is inherently defiant of what's conventional for women traditionally. Their natural behavior of being much more energetic, more "wild", more willing to speak their mind, disregard any sense of being "proper" or "polite", a desire for action or excitement, is what would classify them as "tomboyish".
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>>521115923
I think your view of Amy is a little poisoned by how she acts in X and in some games like Battle and Rush where she acts ooc. Amy is energetic but she isn't this irritable creature. The whole thing with Amy is solving conflicts through love and words. I'm not saying she can't act or fight but that's not her MAIN characteristic. She can be used in action contexts but she isn't action focused
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521116332
Speak of the devil
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LA-LA-LA-LAVA
CH-CH-CH-CHICKEN
STEVES LAVA CHICKEN YEAH IS TASTY AS HELL
OOH MAMACITA NOW YOU'RE RINGING THE BELL
CRISPY AND JUICY NOW YOUR HAVING A SNACK
OOH SUPER SPICE ITS A LAVA ATTACK
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>>521116479
imagine fetishizing unhealthiness
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>>521116479
on-model and in-character and canon
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why so serious
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sally and shadow are very serious
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>>521116243
I'm not... jewish, or whatever. Nor am I trying to be "subversive".

Tomboys as a concept exist in direct defiance to gender norms by being girls who enjoy "boy stuff". Suggesting that they must conform to very strict masculine ideals or whatever is only attempting to reaffirm a gender norm that they inherently subvert. Tomboys aren't simply men in female bodies. They are girls that like traditionally masculine activities and stuff, or defy what's conventional for a traditional female in a notable way. Amy being pink and wearing dresses doesn't exclude her from the tomboy classification, as she very much does display tomboyish traits from the very beginning and continues to do so to this very day as per her very conceptual DNA.

Amy Rose is a tomboy, in the eyes of her creators.
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>>521115749
Hyoumaru streamed the Japanese version of Sonic Adventure yesterday, and I was a bit surprised to see that that version really puts more emphasis on the fact Amy loves Sonic because things get exciting when he's around, moreso than Sonic himself.
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>>521116553
>I think your view of Amy is a little poisoned by how she acts in X and in some games like Battle and Rush where she acts ooc
You all use "ooc" too much

You actually mean "didn't act in the way i imagined". These aren't your characters. You CAN criticize and compare and contrast different depictions, but to say ooc when the creators wrote it is beyond delusional.
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>>521116397
Being excitable and energetic are not masculine traits and would not classify someone as a tomboy, in it has been associated more with young girls in the traditional sense, if a guy acts overly excitable and energetic he will be called a faggot.
If a male portrays the traits of a Genki girl, they mostly be seen as a homosexual or very immature.
Genki girls are not tomboys and what you associated with traditionally feminine values are wrong
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My firstborn will be named Cool Lurlis. Just have to wait 7 more months.
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>>521110107
why did you stop
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>>521100726
>huh? how do they remember?
Beats me
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>>521117129
he probably ran out of images
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>>521116927
The way she acted in SA2 is not the same as how she acts in Rush. Which is fine, things don't need to be exactly the same. Variation in characterization will always happen. However I didn't like the direction they took Amy in the mid 2000s where they made her all jealous over Sonic and easily irritable and stuff
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>>521114591
You have no idea. Silver is supposed to be a brash hot-blooded and emotionally uncontrolled character that is also hyper focused on his goals. Like a cross between Trunks from DBZ and Nero from DMC. The hot-blooded part is supposed to be what separates him from Sonic and Shadow who are calm and cool(they literally say that about him and Sonic in a Sonic Channel story), it's also why he is always partnered with relatively stoic people that pull him back.
The English takes on him in the dub of 06 and IDW tried to turn him into an insecure sissy that's dependent on Blaze rather than just being reeled in by her. So instead of being serious, hotblooded and punkish the fandom thinks he's soft, timid and polite.
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>>521116875
>Amy Rose is a tomboy, in the eyes of her creators.
She is a Genki girl in the eyes of her creators, not a tomboy.
Genki girls are not tomboys.
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>amy
>knuckles
>shadow
>blaze
>tangle
>surge
>scourge
>mecha
>metal
Why are there so many sonic clones
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>>521117089
russian blazefag..
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>>521117318
post more cucked Amy
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>>521116905
That's the way I've always interpreted Amy. She loves Sonic because of the adventure she brings. By the end of her story she realizes she doesn't need Sonic to have adventures and excitement and becomes more independent and far less infatuated by the fantasy ideal of Sonic. I saw this as setting up a foundation for her to strike out on her own without waiting for Sonic.

Then everything after SA1 happened so lol at me i guess
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>>521116553
>I think your view of Amy is a little poisoned by how she acts in X and in some games like Battle and Rush
Whenever I talk about Amy, I am never talking about those portrayals.>>521116553
>Amy is energetic but she isn't this irritable creature. The whole thing with Amy is solving conflicts through love and words. I'm not saying she can't act or fight but that's not her MAIN characteristic. She can be used in action contexts but she isn't action focused
This is just as false as X!Amy's entire existence, for the exact same polar opposite reason.

X!Amy is a flanderized Amy that removes her more compassionate traits in-favor of only her love for Sonic, and all of her aggressiveness is cranked up to 11. But that aggressiveness has always been there, because it comes from her being an "energetic tomboy". The key point is that the energy is SUPPOSED to be positive, happy, joyous, loving... As well as adventurous, active, thrill-seeking, craving adrenaline, and overall VERY overwhelming and intense and impulsive.

Amy is the exact kind of girl to whip out a giant hammer and swing it around at anything that makes her upset, but she is not supposed to be defined by "anger" or "irritability". But to suggest that she's only ever just a soft, passive character that'd avoid violence 90% of the time is just flat-out lying.

Amy embodies love. That love drives her to act and fight, as she is very passionate and open about her feelings, and leads with her heart. She loves Sonic, she loves people, she loves having fun, she loves adventure, she loves excitement, so she acts in-pursuit of those things.
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>>521116927
NTA but which of the things the previous anon mentioned was written by her creators?
Certainly not X, that was ooc slop.
Battle and Rush were not written by her creators either iirc.
So I don't understand the argument you are making.
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I played SA2 and its just ok, i was expecting more
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>>521112796
>basically just a female version of Sonic
I doubt Sonic would do the things that Amy has done.
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>>521117340
>She is a Genki girl in the eyes of her creators, not a tomboy.
They have specifically referred to her as "tomboyish" to describe her energy, enthusiasm, strength, capability and activeness numerous times.

She is a tomboy in their eyes.
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>>521117353
Tails is one of the few characters that more so complements Sonic rather than being a parallel

>>521117292
Yeah probably the worst case of a dub/translation ruining something in this series. I like Silver's design and personality, I just wish there was something more solid to him rather than mostly potential. There's the Rivals games but barely anyone knows about them
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>>521117708
Tomboy is a mistranslation of Genki girl
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>>521117089
I told my wife, she says she's proud to have someone named after her.
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I'm going to draw porn of Cool Lurlis
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>>521118191
Draw her being fucked by russian human man
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>>521117478
>But to suggest that she's only ever just a soft, passive character that'd avoid violence 90% of the time is just flat-out lying.
Never suggested that. I SPECIFICALLY said that I have no problem with Amy being physically strong, or going on adventures, or energetic, or doing cool action stuff. I'm saying it isn't her main thing. Her main thing, ideally, should be her compassionate nature. That's it. Sadly this was lost after the Adventure games
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>>521117318
That's not Sonic's cum btw, that's Rouge's pussy juice. Blobian pussy juice is thick, viscous, colored like their fur, and very tasty.
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>>521117414
>1st Sonic the Hedgehog
>1st Miles "Tails" Prower
>3rd Shadow the Hedgehog
>4th Knuckles the Echidna
>4th Silver the Hedgehog
What does the rest of this say
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>>521118270
you seem to be mixing up your lazy cats
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>The retards are fighting again.
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>>521117047
This is false.

Traditional masculinity emphasizes being stoic and serious, like a soldier. Traditional femininity emphasizes being very polite and refined, like a proper lady. NEITHER side is "supposed" to be energetic and excitable, that's looked down upon in BOTH "traditional gender norm" perspectives.

The actual truth is that energy and excitability are conventionally "child" traits, that both genders "traditionally" expect you to grow out of. Sonic in the movies and prime is written with Amy-like energy and excitability, but that's not making him feminine. That's making him act LIKE A CHILD.

The energetic personality comes with playfulness, a desire to escape boredom by doing something fun, etc. Tomboys are energetic girls that like playing sports or doing fun things with guys or wearing boyish clothes, rather than just sitting around looking pretty or whatever.

>>521117976
This is false, you made that up. The Japanese text uses words that translate to tomboy or tomboyish or whatever.
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Imagina discussing tomboys and other stupidity with a straight face. Fucking retarded general.
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Tai and Sora
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>>521118465
>he doesnt know the lore
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>>521114265
Here is a proper translation of the original Japanese manual using Chatgpt, nowhere does it mention Tomboy in her description.
It was a mistranslation.
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>>521118680
you wouldn't even know who cool lurlis is if not for me
shut your mouth, casual
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>>521117425
>I saw this as setting up a foundation for her to strike out on her own without waiting for Sonic.
Any idea that SA1 was setting up Amy moving on from Sonic was NEVER true, in the first place and I don't know how anyone ever saw it in the first place.

The entire point of her story is proving that she's a strong and independent woman SPECIFICALLY so that she can earn Sonic's respect and not need him to rescue her, so she can join in on his adventures and have her own adventures without slowing him down. What she has always wanted is to be by Sonic's side, but she only got captured and needed him to rescue her, and she didn't like that. She doesn't want to be a burden, or be left behind, she wants to be part of the adventure by Sonic's side, and so she sought the strength to achieve that and prove it to Sonic himself.

Sonic Heroes puts all of that VERY front and center as it's the underlying motivation for Amy throughout the entire Team Rose campaign.

But somehow all of this gets overlooked because they just see a crazy girl obsessed with Sonic or whatever...
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>>521118483
Please refer to this>>521118735
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>>521118601
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>>521118837
>you wouldn't even know who cool lurlis is if not for me
wtf are you then? coolorfag herself? the one who made oc for here?
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>>521118735
chatgpt was made by jews for the express purpose of tomboy erasure
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Imma be real to you all for a moment since this discussion has crossed the threshold of utter autistic ramblings but there's not a single character in this franchise that has enough layers or depth to ever be considered a tomboy.

Like the absolute bare minimum you would need to have a tomboy character would be to have a rowdy and pouty female lead like Misty in Pokemon but Sonic doesn't have a single character like that...because none of these characters are meant to be deeper than like a 2 sentence long summary.
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>>521117564
well that was the best we got, sonic ain't for you bud
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Why are you posting OCs?
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>>521118279
>Her main thing, ideally, should be her compassionate nature.
This also is inaccurate.

Amy's main thing is her passion. The source of her energy, enthusiasm, tomboyishness, desire for action, and her willingness to chase after Sonic in the first place, is all defined by her being passionate. Her compassion itself is fueled by that as well, as she is very open about her feelings and genuinely cares for everyone.

That's why her theme is "My Sweet Passion". She is 100% the type of person who would paint herself blue for you or whatever, because she is very emotionally driven in the most intense and overwhelming way possible. And all of that is what makes her "tomboyish" aspect so important to her character. It very much IS her main thing.
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>>521119030
>Tails tied with Sonic the fucking Hedgehog in FIRST place
Kneel
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>>521118889
Lanolin looks a little out of place without a white shirt.
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>>521119145
This is why she drinks so much coffee, she can't let it happen again with people watching...
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>>521118982
I'm going to skull fuck you with my arm canon for ensalving and tormenting these cute colorful animals.
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>>521119421
I want to fuck Samus
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>>521119157
>Amy is not rowdy

Nah Sparky is right, you just got duped because she's pink.
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Amy has never once been described as a tomboy in the original japanese text, they are all instances of mistranslation.
Her personality contrasts this as well, she's supposed to be an energetic and cheerful girly girl.
She does not act in any way shape or form like a tomboy.
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>>521119157
99% of the stuff this general talks about is completely made up headcanon that no sane or rational person would willfully pick up on
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>>521119532
literally everyone does
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>>521119274
Ok so you want to be Sonic but pink and female got it
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Shadow and Sally would canonically have sex with each other because Shadow is serious and Sally has blue eyes.
Don't argue with me. I'm literally japanese. Everything I say is always right.
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>>521119532
You're going to have to find her vagina, she doesn't even know where that is anymore after all the gene splicing.
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>>521119157
To be fair we can't say that for the likes of Gamma or Shadow.
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>>521119586
oh, cool
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>>521119607
And costume stays on
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>>521115201
Tomboy is more of a vibe. Amy is a normal girl who is a tomboy on the inside. Usually it is a tomboy who is a normal girl on the inside. That's what made her work.
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>>521119735
Japanese fans don't even know who the fuck is Sally.
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>>521117292
Where's that image of the japanese script of how Blaze and Silver talked to Dodonpa compared to the english dub? They both sounded really intimidating and threatening which is how I'd prefer IDW treat them when they're pissed off, according to that stupid chart Ariam is apart of their group now and she already has a motherly personality so if someone has to be the cool headed one let it be her while those two are allowed to act that way so Blaze doesn't have to constantly be the adult

By the way, will IDW finally nut up and kill Mimic, as long as he's alive Whisper's character will never progress, Surge has to grow without people like Starline and Clutch manipulating her, can Whisper grow without Mimic haunting her? I thought the whole reason the OCs got so much focus is because they can have character arcs, change and grow while the game characters have to remain stagnate for the sake of being somewhat in character with how Sega protrays them in their games I mean Jewel and Belle have more solid character arcs than Whisper and especially Tangle, Tangle honestly feels like a game character with how she hasn't changed but rather regressed from what she was and Lanolin, they did the dumbest thing ever with her change, wasting pages telling the reader you want to change is boring how about actually showing it, all we needed is her apologizing to Silver immediately upon seeing him and that's enough context to show the characters and the reader she's making strides towards being a better person without it being so long winded.

THAT"S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS COMIC THE CHARACTERS GO ON LONG WINDED RANTS THAT MEAN NOTHING BECAUSE AMERICANS ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THEIR LIVES and write about it too much wither they are radical leftists thugs or idiotic conservative fascists the one thing they agree on is their country sucks and everyone not them needs to die. It's almost like the comic is written by this place
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>>521119780
Bird cloaca with metroid fangs.
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Ilzuka says Shadow and Sally will have a 30 mins sex scene in the next game wtf
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>>521119559
Sparky doesn't even know where the whole tomboy/tsun-tsun trope came from. He's never watched NGE or any of the other early 90's animes that carved out said trope.

He literally has no idea what he's talking about. it's clear he thinks Amy is a tomboy because that's literally the most active female lead he has seen in any media that he consumes.
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>>521119692
Want HER to be Sonic but female and pink*
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>>521119562
If you knew Amy you would realize she is a tomboy. It's just what she's like inside. She's a girly tomboy case closed. It's not hard. It's like a mix of 2 archetypes it's not rocket science.
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>>521119962
>with metroid fangs.
Good to know she can effectively leg-lock me without actually leg locking.
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>>521120015
Amy is very much like Asuka and you could describe her as a tomboy so idk what point you're trying to make.
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>>521120015
>Sparky
Who cares about what a retard says?
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>>521120153
>f you knew Amy you would realize she is a tomboy. It's just what she's like inside.

No. Not at all.
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>>521120216
>Amy is very much like Asuka
Show me the scene where Amy actively fawns over older men, knowingly flashes Sonic several times and then tries to strangle him to death.
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Well whatever then.
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>Amy is very much like Asuka
Not in the goddamn least...
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Why are you faggots arguing with a retard who does not even know what the definition of a tomboy even is?
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>>521120153
I thought Blaze was a tomboy?
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>>521118916
>>521118735
False.

I decided to extract the text myself.

Rージー・ザ・ラスカル
ほんみょう
本名/エミー・ローズ
せいべつ おんな
性別/女
せいかく げんき
ねんれい
さい
年齢/8才
のうてんき
性格/元気でおてんば。 能天気。
とくぎ
うらな
特技?/カード占い・ダウジング
しんびてき
うらな
げんき
神秘的なことや占いが好きな元気いっぱい
あか
の明るい子。 “カードのお告げ”によってリトル
プラネットにやってきたが、そこでソニックと
うんめいてき
であ
運命的?な出会いをする。 そして・・・。

Here's a translation, from a different AI:

Rosy the Rascal
Real name: Emmy Rose
Gender: Female
Personality: Energetic and tomboyish. Carefree.
Age: 8 years old
Special skills: Card fortune-telling, dowsing
A bright and cheerful girl who loves mysterious things and fortune-telling, and is full of energy.
She came to Little Planet due to a "card's oracle", and there she had a fateful meeting with Sonic. And...

According to the AI,
>The word "tomboyish" comes from the Japanese term "" (otenba), which can be translated to "tomboy" or "tomboyish" in English. In this context, "" is used to describe the character's personality as energetic and perhaps a bit unconventional or playful, which is often associated with tomboyish traits.
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I'm just having fun in a Sonic thread like I don't believe Amy Rose is real or anything haha.
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>>521120153
You can't be a girly tomboy that's literally a paradox.
If you are girly you are not a tomboy.
If you are a tomboy you are not girly.
You can't redefine the english language to fit your narrative because you didn't do you due diligence and check if tomboy was a mistranslation, which it was.
You put more value in words written in manuals and character bios then in the characters in front of your face in the video games, so you try to fit them into their character bio descriptions by all means necessary Sparky. I doubt you even played the games.
You just exposed how stupid your method for defining characters were, a manual can say one thing but the character will act in a completely different manner in the games, in that case the manual is not correct, the game is.
The mistranslation was your downfall.
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>>521120706
Yeah, that'd be, like, such a crazy thought to have, haha... lol who would ever think that?
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>>521120216
>Amy is very much like Asuka
Excellent bait.
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>>521119562
I don't think japan even has a word for tomboy, I'm sure they have something for sporty girls with tan lines but that's it's own thing
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>>521120775
I've met real life girly tomboys it's a thing it happens.
*pounds Amy's hammer like a gavel*
Case Closed.
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>>521119421
What "animals" is Samus referring to? The buddies?
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>>521120015
Honestly the more I talk to Sparky the more I grow convinced he doesn't actually consume any Sonic. He obsesses about the lore and background descriptions sure but this conversation really just revealed to me that he has literally zero idea of how these character normally interact with each other. I doubt he has even read the comics at this point. He probably just did what most autists like him do and just read a bunch of wikis about it.

I mean really that's the only way he could have possibly even arrived at this stupid opinionated stance, just straight up not playing or consuming any media and just going off of text that is often mistranslated and unintentionally misleading.
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>>521094551
Chaotix wasn't listed in the canon timeline that Sonic Channel put out. RIP the IDW Chaotix 30th special?
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>>521119692
>>521120126
Amy is the Minnie to Sonic's Mickey. She absolutely IS supposed to be a pink, female Sonic. And by virtue of being a Genki Girl contrasting Sonic's Cool Guy archetype yet also just being a very feminine-mirror of Sonic, she automatically gains tomboyish traits mirroring Sonic's own personality and interests, in order for her to be the one chasing after him while he runs freely.

I call her 'Girl Sonic' for a reason.
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>>521121204
The timeline isn’t complete, it’s just showing off the highlights in the franchise and Chaotix is ANYTHING but a highlight.
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>>521121204
The timeline isn't finished, it's just highlights right now.
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Sonic the Hedgehog is like a Didactic unfolding tableau of villains and animal heros on a quest to free the spirit of the father from the polarity of modern life.

And its also a cartoon.
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theme of metal gear solid 2
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>>521120658
Blaze is a prim and proper princess, a warrior princess but the point still stands
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>>521119532
Sonic...
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>>521113989
Femver is best ver
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>>521120639
Because /sthg/ is filled with retarded ass inbred faggots that thinks "IDW, SA2, and Archie are peak Sonic" and can't help to discuss the most pointless shit possible because nobody can actually talk about things like gameplay in Sonic games.
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>>521121903
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>>521119562
The 2021 cover story article thing refers to her as tomboyish.

The Japanese text is:
>「ソニックドリフト」シリーズではカーレース、「ソニック ザ ファイターズ」では、ピコピコハンマーを片手に本気ファイト......! お転婆ぶりに磨きがかかっていきます。

Translated by an AI, it reads:
>In the "Sonic Drift" series, she's in car races, and in "Sonic the Fighters", she's giving it her all in a fierce fight with a Piko Piko Hammer in hand...! Her tomboyish personality is getting even more polished.

The AI also added
>However, a more natural translation of "お転婆ぶり" might be "tomboyish nature" or "girlish mischievousness". The phrase "お転婆ぶりに磨きがかかっていきます" suggests that her lively and playful personality is becoming even more pronounced or refined.
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>>521121956
ah man this is way less fun on desktop
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>>521120658
Blaze is the opposite or inverse of Amy.

Amy is tomboyish where Blaze follows conventional femininity, and Amy is feminine where Blaze breaks that convention.

>>521120775
>You can't be a girly tomboy that's literally a paradox.
Yes you can, it is not a binary.

You can blend masculine and feminine traits together in one person of either gender.
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>>521121956
What the fuck is going on with that webm?
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>>521120658
Amy has a girly exterior but a tomboy interior and wants to be more powerful and adventurous despite her originally being just a regular everyday girl.
Blaze has a tomboy exterior but is a shy and emotional interior, and wants to be more traditionally feminine despite her role as a guardian.
It's a simple subversion of expectations.
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>>521120775
>o you try to fit them into their character bio descriptions by all means necessary Sparky.
Also the specific person you were replying to in that post is not me.

Anyways, Amy's observable behavior on-screen matches her character description, and she very much is a tomboy, in the way that Sonic Team intend her to be. Your own preconceived notion of what you think a "tomboy" is, is inaccurate.
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>>521121989
Be nice to her...
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>>521122473
Femver wearing practical and sporty clothes is in character
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if Sonic and Shadow had human names, what do you think they would be?
I think Shadow would be a Jamie or James
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>>521118889
>>521119586
How do I get this good at drawing
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>>521122029
You are choosing to ignore the context of the character and translate otenba as tomboyish, if you probe the ai just a little bit you will get a better context for the translation of otenba in both contexts, which fits Amy's displayed character more, along with fitting with her previous description of Genki better.
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>>521121956
>that webm
…aaaAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!
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>>521121180
>Honestly the more I talk to Sparky the more I grow convinced he doesn't actually consume any Sonic. He obsesses about the lore and background descriptions sure but this conversation really just revealed to me that he has literally zero idea of how these character normally interact with each other. I doubt he has even read the comics at this point. He probably just did what most autists like him do and just read a bunch of wikis about it.
I absolutely do consume the actual material. I don't just read wikis and stuff, I cross-reference that information with what's actually observable in the games themselves, and stuff.

Amy Rose, in the actual games, absolutely does display 'tomboyish' traits. Her energy, enthusiasm, desire for action and adrenaline and stuff, and overall Sonic-like vibe beneath that, are meant to reflect that tomboyish attitude. Especially in contrast to Cream, who is a prim and proper young lady. It's that very nature that Sonic X flanderized to force her into the tsundere archetype, when she's supposed to just be a deredere genki girl.
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Sally is literally the self-defined tomboy of the Archie comic so you can literally just compare her and how Amy acts to draw a parallel to what a tomboy in Sonic is supposed/intended to be and what Amy is.

What do you know, Sally and Amy act completely differently outside of having the hots for Sonic and generic female behaviors.
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>>521119889
would you believe me if I said the oldest known sally hentai comic is japanese
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>>521122256
>Blaze follows conventional femininity

That doesn't sound right.
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>>521101634
>how would rouge feel about boom knuckles
There's a fairly decent (Japanese) comic about this that's not too hard to find

As for Movie Knuckles, she'd probably find him amusing
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>>521122671
do it a lot
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>>521120673
Here is the better translation you get with the AI if you tell it to translate it by taking the context into consideration, which is much more fitting of Amy
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>>521122627
femver kissing me a lot is in character
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>>521122889
Define what "tomboyish traits" are because everything you described is not related to being a tomboy unless you're literally arguing that you think most women are slothy, depressed nihilists.
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>>521122984
Chris chan has be drawing for decades, there's got to be better advice than that.
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>>521121264
That doesn't sound like an interesting character sorry. Amy is basically Sonic with a coat of paint according to you. That's not very good. Shadow, Knuckles and Metal are parallels to Sonic yet have more defined personalities. I like Amy being a caring and compassionate person, and I like her helping people without having to resort to violence
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wvnd
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>>521122968
Blaze is the opposite of Sonic where Amy is just Sonic but female.

Amy is tomboyish, as a mirror of Sonic's own traits. She craves action and adrenaline, she's loud and aggressive, she's impulsive and energetic and hates boredom.

Blaze is a reserved, prim and proper princess who is the ruler of an entire kingdom, and maintains strict discipline. She's in-line with Cream and Vanilla's prim and proper lifestyle coupled with a variant of Knuckles' sense of duty and responsibility.

Amy and Blaze both blend tomboyishness with girliness in opposite ways to each other.
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>Unironically using ChatGPT to try and win an argument of interpretation of characters
I can't even tell if this is desperation or just plain fucking autism at this point. Why don't you just talk to the AI instead of posting on here. That seems to be more fun to you than this.
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>>521119906
>I thought the whole reason the OCs got so much focus is because they can have character arcs, change and grow while the game characters have to remain stagnate for the sake of being somewhat in character with how Sega protrays them in their games
The writers are hacks making excuses.
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>>521123349
>Amy is a tomboy
>Blaze is not
Sparky you have convinced me that you are the most retarded poster in this general.
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>>521122716
>playful spirit
>reckless charm
>daring streak
>wild side
>energetic mischief
>bold personality

A.K.A: A Tomboy. Traditional femininity goes against all of that, especially the wild, mischievous and bold aspects. Amy defying that convention is the point.
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BLAZE ISN'T A FUCKING TOMBOY EITHER WHAT?!? THERE ARE NO TOMBOY GIRLS IN SONIC, WHAT IS HARD TO GRASP ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN MY RAGING FUCKING COCK?
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>>521121956
>"IDW, SA2, and Archie are peak Sonic"
Replace IDW with SRB2 and that statement is correct
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>>521123650
Stop talking about your dick.
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>>521123636
being playful and energetic is not tomboyish I don't know what the fuck you are on, traditional femininity does not go against any of that.
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>>521123231
The only reason you think this is because you don't understand the idea of using a simple label to summarize a more complicated idea.
Metal Sonic is just Sonic if he was a robot, Knuckles is just Sonic if he was responsible, Tails is just Sonic if he was still growing up, Amy is just Sonic if he was feminine. These are their characters at their absolute most basic descriptions, and all you'd need to do to understand what those labels entail is to ask yourself things like "What would it mean to be a Metal Sonic?"
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>>521122896
Nobody here cares about that non-canon OOC comic.
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>>521123845
The way you view the characters is genuinely sad. You do you I guess
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>>521121956
Why would I discuss gameplay with faggots who will sweep any flaw a game has with buzzwords like soul or filtered?
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>>521123807
cute tangle
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>>521123208
>you're literally arguing that you think most women are slothy, depressed nihilists.
Where did I ever say anything like that?

A tomboy is simply a girl that enjoys boyish activities or whatever, or displays "boyish" traits, which would typically be like, being more bold and adventurous and active or whatever. Enjoying sports and physical activity or athleticism or whatever.
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>>521123539
Blaze wants to wear pretty dresses and learn how to cook and be more girly and feminine. I don't know how you did it, but Sonic characters are somehow too nuanced for you to understand.
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>>521123749
Need more muscular shots of Reynard
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Why did Knuckles stop being the cool rival?
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I like women with high testosterone.
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i wish there was a cure for autism
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>>521123965
both games r mostly shit desu with visually appealing highlights and nothing more
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>>521124160
Replaced by Shadow
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>>521123749
hrrrng dilf
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>>521123760 (me)
>>521123636
In fact that is how traditionally young girl characters are expected to act, cheerful energetic and playful, which Amy is.
You are conflating your expectations for traditional ADULT WOMEN and YOUNG GIRLS
Amy is supposed to be an energetic young girl who is interested in tarot cards, something Japanese young girls at the time were interested in, not a tomboy adult.
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>>521124160
He isn't a "Darker Sonic". I guess kids prefer mysterious dark characters like Shadow to be a rival. Knuckles is kinda goofy at times
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>>521124012
Has Amy ever displayed interests in sport, athleticism, cars, mechanics or carpentry in any capacity that wasn't just that one time in Sonic Battle where she was boxing with weights to lose weight?
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All tomboys go to heaven.
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>>521124160
gay lovers
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She owns like three cars.
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we don't deserve tomboys
also, Sonic 3 VFX breakdown https://x.com/Sonic1News/status/1910075418172133583
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>>521124430
not the gay ones
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>>521124419
Forgot to add: Non-canon side games like kart racing or the Olympics count.
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>>521123868
Archie appreciation is part of /sthg/ culture, whereas places like the Sonic reddit scoff at it without reading it, if not just due to Pender's run, but also partly due to "canonicity" and "OOC" in some infamous panels. Much like what you are doing right now... hmm...
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>>521124131
I think you are simply too low IQ to understand any of these character, Blaze's desires to wear dresses and cook come from a desire to be able to relax from her duties of stoic leadership of her nation, which is a tomboyish trait, however she does not indulge.
Blaze is a tomboy who would like to be more feminine but is trapped by the burden of duty.
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Obviously Amy is a tomboy and it's clear as day you sit her next to the actual Ladylike characters Cream and Vanilla, who both well bred and polite with a strong sense of propriety and a equally strong dislike of any kind of violence
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>>521123231
>That doesn't sound like an interesting character sorry.
Half the cast, ESPECIALLY Tails, all exist in-relation to Sonic in similar ways.

Tails is Kid Sonic
Amy is Girl Sonic
Knuckles is Anti Sonic

What if Sonic but this, what if Sonic but that, what if the exact polar opposite of Sonic, etc etc etc.

That's just basic character conception when the focal point is Sonic himself as the lead mascot protagonist on random adventures.

Amy is designed to be Sonic's love interest, so she's a Minnie Mouse esque mirror of Sonic. And that works. That is a good thing. Amy herself is a strong character with a strong focus and purpose.

The idea that it's bad for, like... Shadow to exist because he's "just" Dark Sonic, is stupid and shortsighted. Shadow being a copy of Sonic, Knuckles being the exact opposite of Sonic... It's all just character roles for a cast built around Sonic himself, and there is nothing wrong with any of that.

Tails is "Kid Sonic", and it's why he's my favorite character across all fiction everywhere. It's a universal archetype, and this variant is the Sonic-themed version, and I find Tails in particular very heavily relatable. And everything about him comes from 'What if Sonic had a kid sidekick', and contrasting Sonic's confidence and coolness with a naive young and timid child with poor self-esteem.

Also: >>521123845 is not me.
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>>521124314
Real. Even in SA1 they focused more on Knuckles' lore and not his rivalry with Sonic.
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>>521124693
>both well bred
mmm >:)
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>>521123957
>I SPECIFICALLY said that I have no problem with Amy being physically strong, or going on adventures, or energetic, or doing cool action stuff. I'm saying it isn't her main thing. Her main thing, ideally, should be her compassionate nature. That's it.
This is what you said you see Amy as. This is a prime example of Amy being relatively boyish and sharing the same interests as Sonic, but with more of a focus on compassion, emotion, and empathy. You unironically see Amy exactly how people like me and Sparky do, but get confused by the way he uses labeling to summarize the characters, and I'm convinced you'd just need an essay to actually understand it.
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>>521124757
worm sex
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>>521124634
>PLEASE read my non-canon cancelled comic where everyone acts OOC and its fans hate the rest of the franchise for not being it!
No, I will not. I shan't.
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>>521124693
There more than one version of traditional femininity, being more energetic, ditzy and playful does not make you a tomboy, you are simply exhibiting a different version of traditional femininity.
A tomboy, by defintion, is someone exhibiting masculine traits, which neither of these characters are.
Only tomboy in Sonic is Blaze for having the role of stoic monarch of the Sol empire, which is a masculine trait.
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>>521124952
the dino nuggies are compulsory
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>>521123229
The best advice is the same advice: Do it a lot. The advice that is never spoken is the advice that is assumed everyone does to improve: Look at what you're doing wrong, and do it again but better
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>>521124668
So by your definition a girly princess who has to unwillingly play the role of a tomboy is a tomboy, and a tomboy that's forced into a traditionally feminine role that they're uncomfortable with wouldn't be a tomboy? Because that's incredibly stupid, and I feel like you don't understand Blaze at all.
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>>521125110
hessnic my beloved
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>>521124419
Sonic the Fighters and the Riders series are canon events in the franchise, especially with Amy's character because Fighters is where the Hammer comes from. And the Piko Piko Hammer ITSELF is a representation of her tomboyish trait, because that is why she has it, and why she was even in that game.

The 2021 cover story article thing makes direct reference to that. Amy enjoys sports and athletic activities, she rides Extreme Gear, she owns cars and uses them even outside of those racing stuff, and she likes doing the same kinds of things that Sonic does all the time. She is the girl who chases after Sonic, so it should be no surprise that this girl loves running, adventure, and action in her life.

And the Boxercise has become a staple of her character as well, since there's an entire wallpaper on Sonic Channel dedicated to it as well. Literally spent the whole game obsessed with it, and you want to just pretend it doesn't even matter? Get real.
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>>521124757
worm love
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Alright, state your name and power...
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>>521125127
I feel like you don't understand any of the characters in the series at all, and I highly doubt that you have completed a single Sonic game and you simply read game manuals and get your ideas from their.
Blaze is a tomboy
Amy is not
Blaze behaves in a masculine way reminiscent of Knuckles and Shadow during Sonic Rush.
Amy never behaves in a masculine way ever, until Sonic Boom that is.
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>>521125328
I like a girl with a healthy appetite.
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>>521123539
>>Amy is a tomboy
>>Blaze is not
I specifically stated:
>>521123349
>Amy and Blaze both blend tomboyishness with girliness in opposite ways to each other.
Both Amy and Blaze are tomboys, and are also girly, in inverse ways.

Blaze is girly where Amy is tomboyish, and Amy is girly where Blaze is tomboyish.

Also >>521124131 is not me.
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>>521124714
You would think considering SA1's focus he would be the most important character in the game, but instead he felt like a complete afterthought. I wish I could be a fly in the wall for those planning meetings. What the hell happened? Was most of his story cut?
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>>521120673
>Age: 8 years old
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>>521125545
>Was most of his story cut?
The game was originally supposed to be an RPG so I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>521125328
considering she can apparently eat an aluminum can without even realizing, I assume she can digest bone
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>>521125713
Perfect age for the girlfriend of 10 year old Nicky in the manga, while Sonic in that same manga was a 16 year old time traveling.
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>>521125967
she's a blobian version of those worms from 06 and shadow, so probably
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>>521125304
I nearly typed out a whole 2 paragraph essay explaining why you're taking that stuff too seriously before I realized I was talking to Sparky.
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>>521125484
>Blaze is girly where Amy is tomboyish
Being prim and proper is trait associated with nobility and royalty, not traditional femininity.
And being energetic and adventurous are not necessarily masculine traits either.
You are simply misusing the english language to push your agenda because you were proven wrong about your about the creators describing her a tomboy in the game manual, which was a mistranslation.
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>>521126145
Have you never heard of the concept of "lady-like"? What do you think "traditional feminity" even means?
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Iizuka is going to kill Sonic next game.
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>>521125006
>and its fans hate the rest of the franchise for not being it!
You're actually thinking of SatAMfags there, who had people that hated the games, and called for them to be dark fantasy forest adventures and have Eggman voiced by Jim Cummings.
Archie had its similarities with it early on, a sillier more "game"-ified take on it, but it moved on. Later Archie and its fans embraced the games, while the SatAMfags continued to have contempt for them
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>>521126375
>Have you never heard of the concept of "lady-like"?

Rouge clearly hasn't.
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>>521126375
>Traits traditionally cited as feminine include gracefulness, gentleness, empathy, humility, and sensitivity, though these traits vary across societies and individuals, and are influenced by a variety of social and cultural factors
Being prim and proper are not included in this, they traits nobleman and noblewoman were supposed to follow, a young lord was expected to be just as prim and proper as a young lady.
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>>521126507
Rouge is the wind!
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>>521126461
NTA wasn't it also the SatAM flags also accusing Sally being OOC isln comics?
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I am so sick and tired of having that retard pop up on here still. Shut the fuck up about your stupid lolcow ecelebs.
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>Soooo how did your date go-?
>It wasn't official! and- it's my off day!
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People arguing that Amy isn't a tomboy have never met a native Japanese woman in their entire life.
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There are people on sthg that would fuck one of these if it was functionally the same but smaller
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>>521125359
Assuming you believe that anon is me, (it's not)...

Amy and Blaze are both tomboyish in opposite ways, and both blend it with girliness as well.

>>521126145
I wasn't proven wrong about anything, there was never an actual mistranslation.

The Japanese text uses a word that translates to "tomboyish", but also refers to a mischievous girl's spirit or whatever. From the perspective of Japanese culture, what do you think "Tomboy" would even mean to them? Sonic himself is very antithetical to Japanese culture already.

Traditional femininity is "lady-like". Prim and proper, polite and passive, possibly even submissive if you're really emphasizing tradition. That behavioral pattern is exemplified by Cream and Vanilla, who are defined by being exceptionally polite and courteous. Cream is Kid-Amy / Girl-Tails. Thus, Cream's traits contrast Amy's the same way Tails contrasts Sonic.

Cream is polite and courteous, to contrast Amy being energetic and passionate. Amy's tomboyish traits contrast Cream's lady-like traits.

Whenever any of you wanna overexaggerate how much of a child Cream is, you always default to tea parties and dolls or picking flowers, which are also some things she's done before, because that's traditionally feminine girl activities for a young child. Contrast that with what you'd expect Charmy to like doing.

Amy's idea of "fun" skews closer to Charmy than it does Cream. Both Amy and Charmy's Sonic Channel profiles have even listed "Boredom" as the dislike, in fact. It's why Amy craves excitement in her life, which draws her to chase after Sonic in a very active and direct way that is very uncommon for a "conventional" woman.

Typical romance is men seeking women, but Amy is seeking the one guy who refuses to chase after girls.
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>>521126945
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>>521126924
Guilty as charged, your Honor
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>>521126924
all living beings are gross when you get down to it
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People arguing that Amy is a tomboy have never met a woman who doesn't live under an oppressive patriarchy. That's not tomboyish.
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Amy is the best type of tomboy, cool covered with cute
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>>521126461
>>521126749
I am honestly glad satamfags openly dislike the games because they're less likely to argue that the games compromise and include their stuff. Satam is basically a different thing completely.
Yes. Sally is OOC in Archie. Just as OOC as Sonic is.
In general, nobody in Archie was IC.
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>>521126656
Every now and again when I need a laugh I’ll recall the time he admitted on his Twitter that he left his job early and went to his car to cry when he learned that the Archie Sonic comic had been cancelled.
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>>521126069
>you're taking that stuff too seriously
As opposed to what, making up reasons for why it should be discarded?!
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>>521127041
Why did they waste this on some fuck-ass racing game? The only main-series game where you fight a robot Knuckles is Advance 1 and it's not even the same design.
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A lesson to all the american fags who do not understand the concept of Genki girl in japanese culture and conflate it with tomboy.
The left is a genki girl
The right is a tomboy
They are very clearly different and distinct from each other, so please go do some research and cure your ignorance.
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>>521127061
Someone make a real new thread please.
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>>521124668
>Blaze's desires to wear dresses and cook

Where? When?
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>>521127350
>wears a dress
>has fire powers

Are you deadass retarded or smth?
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@521127214
Shan't engage. I consneed.
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>>521127521
for >>521127214
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>>521127037
The point of Amy and Cream is that Cream acts very mature for her age, that's the reason of her politness.
Amy being energetic and passionate are not traits associated with tomboys, they are traits associated with young girls in Japanese culture.
That is the contrast between Amy and Cream, despite being younger Cream is acts more mature than Amy, because Amy still has a young girls hearth just like Sonic has a young boys hearth.
And Amy's dislikes being boredoom overlapping with Charmy is further proof of this, it's not because she's tomboyish, Charmy does not act masculine at all, it's because they both act YOUNG and like KIDS.
Amy is not a tomboy, she is the stereotypical young japanese girl, which is why they added tarot cards as a point of interest for her.
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>>521127320
Revy my beloved!!
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>>521123807
Pretty wolf...
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>>521125032
>There more than one version of traditional femininity
not in this case you see toyboy is an old victorian phrase and back in those days they had a very clear cut idea of the masculine man and the feminine lady.
and the big difference between Blaze and Amy is Blaze's masculine traits are all part of her job that dutifully fulfills but Amy actively wants to train her body and get stronger so she can go out and have adventures and she wants to be with Sonic so that she can have even more adventures textbook tomboy.
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>>521126461
>Later Archie and its fans embraced the games
This is revision. Most of the game hate comes from them.
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>>521129168
I don't feel this is true. Archie really started to struggle narratively after it was basically forced to embrace the post-Adventure games wholesale rather than dedicate one special issue to a game that barely had any plot.
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>>521129574
You can look at these threads or /co/ or any discussion on any other site where Archiefags talk about the games. They either despise them or don't respect them.
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>>521130441
I quoted the wrong post, I was more or less trying to agree with you. My fuckup.

But I still think Archie was worse off trying to work games it wasn't made to work with into its lore.
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>>521127320
This implies that Blaze isn't a tomboy
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