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>Wavu Wiki
https://wavu.wiki/t/Main_Page

>Glicko2 rating
https://wank.wavu.wiki/about

>Terminology
https://wavu.wiki/t/Jargon
https://wavu.wiki/t/Notation

>Tekken 8 Character Overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CG-ZUE6EqqQk7QSfc1feddeS8411f8t38EMFQ1Le9Cc/edit
>Tekken 8 Important combos and moves for each character
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTsgbCJNSTKajMNlJvQleJOl0eTiEcV-PbeU0obDg1lsSqmz0lTtcD2k6NzfTPt7Db9Ua2dz1o_34Sv/pubhtml#
>Fundamentals guide for Tekken 8
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZQy6eD31dnu6ZzXliRQdVxtB9oT_ub-yCb00RVS0q0
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>>521121768
made for green cock
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Who should be rescued by SF6 S3 be honest bruvs
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im a cuck
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my beloved
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michelle omurray
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hard carry purple asuka here. should I just drop the game? I wanna be good at a comp fighter but I don't know if I should try tekken anymore.
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Uh oh
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>>521121768
Time for doing electrics with my kazooya.
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>>521123747
Dude its way worse than anyone could have anticipated. I’ve worked on games before, it does NOT take a long time to push out hotfixes namco just doesn’t give a shit. The game is literally broken, they didn’t playtest anything and i legit think Murray and Nakatsu are pretending to work on the game. We have a bunch of bad balancers shitting up the game and they aren’t aware of anything.
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>>521123747
He's not wrong this shit is crazier by the day
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i have to play with like 140 IQ to beat flowchart hwaorangs and it's not fun at all because sidesteps and backdashs are fucking useless in this game coupled with the massive amount of plus frames making movement even more pointless on top of that
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everything easily clicks when you just realize it's an inside job to just cut the franchise away
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>>521123747
Do you not understand how long it takes to patch things? I mean we're talking weeks maybe months. They're hard at work. Give them some space, sheesh.
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>>521124352
That doesnt make any sense, theres no reason to create a financial flop on purpose. No one tactically kills a franchise with 60 million in sales purposefully
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>No one tactically kills a franchise with 60 million in sales purposefully
you can't say that after the events that transpired in some country today
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HELLO MURRAY
I WILL FORGIVE YOU BUT ONLY IF YOU DO THE FOLLOWING FOR ZAFINA:
REVERT ALL THE NERFS
MAKE TRT2 SAFE OR FASTER
FIX THE NEW WALL COMBO TO BE CONSISTENT
GIVE HER A BAREFOOT OPTION AND NO AZZY ARM IN HER LEGACY OUTFIT

THANK YOU
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>>521124352
bamco is really nice to tekken honestly, tag 2 imploded. if street fighter pulled a tag 2, they would be gone for 10+ years. this is the 3rd chance Tekken gets, who knows if it's the last one
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>>521124776
its ok i already forgave him for buffing alisas saws
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>>521124767
Thats just American politicians being retarded. This is a video game series, name one franchise that was killed on purpose and proven.
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you block jin’s running 3 and now he’s +14 in stance, do you mash or block for 1 million dollars?
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feet are gross
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>>521124776
what's even the point of playing zafina anymore if she's so totally different to the original version now

installslop anime character

what a shame. many such cases of HMN ruining a great character
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>>521125095
killzone series was murdered by leftist pedophile demons from hell
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>>521123747
they took like a month and half to patch fahk/victor's broken throws
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>>521125205
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Okubo was really the glue huh
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>>521123265
Jin, Hei, Paul or Kaz, but not for season 3 because Tekken doesn't deserve help from anyone currently.
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>>521125205
BUILT
U
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L
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thank you
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>>521125095
Saints Row, Killzone, The Last of Us, Ghosts of Tsushima, Assassin's Creed, Shenmue, SoulCalibur, Dead or Alive, Jumper, Monsterverse
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>>521123747
They checked the numbers and cots to keep this shit running and the whole boycott most probably gave them the excuse to just abandon ship.
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>>521123747
I'm convinced they're trying to get the vets to quit because the causals don't give a fuck about fundies and "honest" tekken.
Once they get rid of them they can go full retard with mtx pachinko anime shit
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>>521125095
Halo, the developers went on record and said they hate Halo. this is literally a common thing with western developers in general, they hate anyone who plays their games.
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>>521125497
holy shieet, nice mammaries!!
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>>521125205
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did they fix the game yet? why is it taking so long?!
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>>521125694
no more chinks and browns crying about balance?
where do i sign up?
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just give me the fucking source code, I would've fixed the game in 72 hours.
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>>521125694
frame was right
they're going to turn tekken into mobile gacha slop
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lmao goddamn dude
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>>521126079
SF6 won. It's over. Accept it and move on.
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how are ppl playing T7?
it feels so outdated compared to T8
have zero motivation to boot up T7 as it does literally everything worse other than balance (had a decade to get there)
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>cotw has a lane system mode
it's a 2.5D game now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkUUm0zDLY
>EU is fighting against mtx in vidya
uh oh
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>>521126223
7's final balance is horrible, there's a reason player numbers stagnated and viewership/hype surrounding tekken 7 fell off a cliff after s2
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>now
I love zoomers so much
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>>521125997
i would just copy the movement values from T5DR over to Mashen 8, remove heat and rage art then add 1 infinite stage. game fixed that easily
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Tekken needs more white women.
Just think about it.
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Eu needs to ban lootboxes in general
Or have them subject to the same laws and regulations as gambling
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>>521125561
anytime~
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>>521125997
an AI could fix it in 5 minutes if you knew the heat, rage and move speed references
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>>521126486
god it would be so easy! somebody for the love of god, hack bandai namco and leak the game files
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>>521126632
speedkicks would be able to do it without AI, thats how good a programmer he is
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shit anyone wanna play some player match? gotta bust out the ol russian dude
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>>521126630
yummy~ yummy~
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>>521124459
arcsys, FUCKING 200 EMPLOYESS SPLIT BETWEEN TWO GAMES ARCSYS, finds a bug with a character and they fix that shit in days.
rashid had a tornado bug and they fixed that shit in days.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE.
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>>521124459
No I don't.
Please explain
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>>521121768
harada and murray firing announcement any day now
active boycotters: 5787
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>>521127647
it went down by 300? addicts lmao
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>>521126602
GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT
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>>521125694
>trying to get the vets to quit
Yeah but the problem is that d8 sold 3 million copies in a year. I'm willing to bet that there are only 500k-700k of new players. The rest of them had experience with 7 at least. Who's gonna be left buying in-game shit if the majority quits?
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>>521124767

Trump rolled back the changes, why can't Murray?
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>>521128058
murray doesn't have enough people threatening him
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>>521127921
probably the website guy cleaned up some fake ones
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>>521128058
Murray doesn't have billionaires killing them tomorrow if he doesn't revert the patch

yet
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>>521128291
can the website guy clean this site up?
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How about another bugfix, Murray?
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another work day is starting at Bandai Namco btw
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>snk reveals hokutomaru
It's over...
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>most viewed tekken 8 stream is a vtuber dressing lily up
Frame was right again
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Whokutomaru
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SNK and Capcom are being all friendly and Bandai Namco is sulking away in a corner
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>Dark Cabal
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How are you coping? I've been fucking around solo in Tekken 3.
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just put back in akuma and geese and i'll come back
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Oh my god the animations in cotw is so rough.
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theyre shilling t5dr on the net
tragedy8 is finished
https://x.com/pinkboyfgc/status/1909542199873659133?t=XK7HVyCK4RJhKpZF0JEh3Q&s=19
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>>521126354
nice copepost murray

despite giving it your all you werent able to completely ruin t7 as a game. you had to make a new game to turn it into complete kusoge.
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ngl i lost all interest in cotw after the celeb cameos
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I could beat any 17er in 5DR with throws and oki setups alone
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>>521129061
you would be too with the most toxic playerbase in any game ever played
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ngl i lied
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i want a girlfriend
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>>521129382
How can we create a 5DR scene? What's the easiest way to play it currently?
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i want to be a girlfriend but im a boy
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>>521129061
Capcom wants Harada dead and buried after his epic Ono friendship that costed them millions 3 times
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>>521126354
You can always plug 2d on loading though, it’s not a tournament.
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>>521125694
there aren't enough of those new zoomers and zoomettes to replace the old base and they frankly are fickle and not loyal to the game either.

once the old playerbase is gone and alienated its over for this franchise.
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So whats the appeal of 5dr? Tekken 6 seems like a better game to me
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Would be funny if they ban paul and jack for the next tournament
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COTW characters looks like this
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>>521130005
Tekken 5 has the strongest movement in the series and no rage. tag1,6, tag2,7 they all have rage.
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>>521130005
>No comeback mechanics
>No combo extenders
>Balanced
>6's new functions are whatever
>Better art direction and OST
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>>521130005
T6 has top tier Bob, Jack, Lars and weak mishimas meanwhile DR has strong mishimas.
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6 has an obscene 360 era piss filter
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>No comeback mechanics
mashing nigger detected: rage art initiated
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>>521130005
reddit circlejerking and mythologizing a game kekgen never played competitively
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I liked 6 cause I could make the girls barefoot and the feet models weren't bad
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>>521130069
thats not a sexy ninja girl
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witness the ART of my RAGE
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I hope the game doesn't died because I wasted to much money buying stuff in the store
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>>521130005
+1 to >>521130248 who sums it up very nicely. It is a faster paced and less bloated game than T6. Combo extenders in particular make 6 a less pleasant experience.
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>>521130923
You deserve to get scammed
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>>521130923
you deserve to lose all that money and more
why would you pay for that shit
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Didn't people complain about how short combos were
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>>521130923
you lose access to all of those items if your save data gets corrupted btw lol
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>>521130923
this is some sad ass shit when all you can think about is money
kys bro
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>>521125809
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Tekken 5 = Soul Calibur
Tekken 6 = Soul Calibur II
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t5 is soulcalibur ii
t6 is soulcalibur iii
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>>521131009
in 5dr you'd still die in two and half interactions
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t5 super mario world
t6 super mario bros 3
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>>521131009
this looks so much better than Tekken 8 it's unbelievable
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>>521131524
fuck I hate how that makes sense
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>>521131009
feng throwing out raw shoulder in neutral/on block and no punishes or whiff punishes happen to anything on the screen LMAO
you realize you can party mash in any tekken? it's made for that, go boot up 8 and buy some tekken coins, you can do the same here :)
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>>521131959
Why would you punish when you can sidewalk?
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heat is the problem with T8 and its here to stay
no amount of crying will stop heat burst from being the cheapest broken move in the game
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REMEMBER WHEN YOU COULDNT STEP HEAT BURST AND IT CHIP KOD?
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>>521132390
kusokino. i miss those times.
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why would you chase women when you can chase men?
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>>521131009
This gameplay looks awful man fuck off no one plays anything here. All the whiffs and no punishes you faggots see movement and think its high level.
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that background filter during rage art in fatal fury is beyond asinine
shit gave me a headache in 2 seconds
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what does asinine mean?
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who should I learn in sf6, bros?
I kinda want to try deejay but I feel like a charge character would be difficult to pick up on a stick
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>>521130248
Combos in 6 are still fast, and allow expression and take skill. Meanwhile 5 combos look like shit and still do 80% of your hp.
>>521130248
5 is not balanced lmfao 2y8ny
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>>521133184
>I want to mash!!

Faggot
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>>521133240
just an alternative term to say "tekken player"
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if u're going to play another game play cotw, sf6 is already stale
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>>521133261
juri
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>>521133407
they both are literally mashing with nobody punishing anything, that's what harada has wanted from tekken forever
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watch them blame the rank reset for the drop in player retention
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>>521133407
You literally posted what might as well of been tekken 8 gameplay.
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>>521133684
>literally
>of been
you drop out?
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>>521133554
>>521133684
So what's the best tekken then?
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>>521130248
>>521131009
Funny how now T6 is contrasted positively with T8 for its shorter combos....
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>>521134105
it doesn't matter because nobody here is going to play any legacy games at a high level
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>>521134224
Mashen 8 shill detected
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>>521134224
Not with that attitude. Smelee players did it.
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>>521127647
>The rumors of a Tekken 9 coming in 2027
oh no... things have gotten so bad the addicts have started hallucinating...
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>>521134335
post your 5dr gameplay so we can laugh at it
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>>521134419
it could happen
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>>521134435
Yeah bro you got me I should just return to based tekken 8!
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>>521134594
webm/mp4 is not loading on my end, could you reupload it?
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>>521130005
For me it's no rage, better aesthetic, and less messy visuals.
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>>521134671
>you can't play an enjoy old fighting games unless you play like my favorite esports

Embarrassing
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>>521134671
I don't know what you mean, there is no webm meant to be attached to my post. Unless you are talking about another post? Idk sorry
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>>521134845
you were probably bullied and called the slow kid in school, I'm here to tell you they were right
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>>521135156
Just stop being so fucking vague and I can tell you what I meant, what the fuck is your problem
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They should turn Tekken into a 3-5 hits max combo type game those are way more fun to play
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>>521133184
i think you’re really missing the point.
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>>521134840
you will always play them at a casual level because the scene is dead. 99.9% of the people in this thread are 12ers, 17ers, and 24ers, all of who played games that are drastically different from 5dr or tag 1
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combos are fun. learning to maximize wall carry and adjust on the fly is fun. just because they absolutely fucked it to an absurd level in 8 doesn’t mean combos are bad.
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you have to learn to maximize wall carry and adjust on the fly in t5 more than you do in t6.
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>>521135528
I think tag games have extremely fun combos and sometimes boot up tag 2 just to do them, and tekken 8 combos are cool, like SAT looks superficially "cool" as a part of the juggle, as does heat dash and tornado
doesn't mean it's fun to go against double capos and fear for your butthole worried about a potential ch b1,4 or clive carrying you wall to wall activating the stage gimmick and then ending it in lvl 5 zantetsuken for 130 damage
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can someone explain what the fuckin big deal is with rage arts and why you mashers hate them so much?
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>>521135926
because it’s a cutscene that takes longer than the round
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>>521135926
i only hate the cutscenes for being way too long. mechanically i have no problem with them.
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>>521135528
Who said combos are bad? They're fun but they should be short in part so that the other player isn't just fucking sitting there twiddling his thumbs watching a cutscene for 10 seconds.
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>implying we'll even make it to tekken 8: heated boogaloo
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>>521136027
>>521136034
fair enough
kids/casuals love that shit tho
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Is this a good time to pick up Tekken 8

I wanna download coomer mods and press buttons
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>>521135926
cutscene supers (and recovering mechanics in general) are fucking gay and have no place in 3D fighters. even in 2d they should be short and not move the camera
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>>521136363
stop falseflagging
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>>521136363
the coom mods are not even good in this game. go play resident evil instead.
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one problem is jap developers think too much = just right
look at what happened to team ninja/square enix towards the end of the eight gen, particle neon splashes every fucking where and they made it only more egregious in the ninth gen
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>>521136363
as good as time as any
newcomers will have the same experience regardless of balance issues
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It's so over we're not even going to make it to EVO Japan
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Since Mashen 8 is now the same slop as nrs games might as well just play mk1 kino
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>>521135926
Long cutscenes, also it's just a cheat mechanic you can mindlessly abuse compare it to street fighter supers where you actually have to earn and manage the bar and if you waste it you gotta work to earn it again
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>>521136576
I would have bought it months ago if it wasn't 150 fucking gigabytes. Optimize your fucking game Ed
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I fucking despise downplayers so much man
IMAGINE telling ANYONE that BRYAN and JIN would be STRONGER in S2
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gets the followup
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>>521136809
They should seriously sell games as physical cartridges in the format of a small capacity ssd in a box or some shit.
Literally fuck sitting around for 200gb games and having that shit eat up space forever. Let me go to Walmart and buy a pc game instead
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>>521136990
does x, trying to tie up the round count
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>>521137236
Why the large drop for granblue
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>>521137236
The good guys won
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>>521136363
>coomer mods and press buttons
that's all the game is good for anyway
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>>521137381
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The even poorer get poorer even more.
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someone hack an earlier tekken and add fucking rollback AHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>521137381
its temu sf6
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>>521137381
66L
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>>521137672
>last good tekken was the one before rollback
unlucky
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>>521137672
No Tekken will rightfully fade into obscurity after siphoning support for Soul Calibur like maggots
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cuddle_core about to show in cotw that 3D fighting games carry over no skill to 2D fighting games
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if I had that knowledge I would spend it on DoA and SoulCalibur
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miserable playing kekken 8? that sounds like a character problem
IFRIT
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>>521138081
Wtf why is he such an asshole to Kuma
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>>521138204
I don't think they have bears doing karate in the FF16 world
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>>521138081
damn they done made chillive fanart
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OUR COCKS CUM AS ONE
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Foolishness, Nina. Foolishness.
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>>521133367
It has SOULFUL unbalance.
https://youtu.be/vX0eaRHJcak?si=svJJ2Mj-dvjBs9c5&t=1852
Tekken thrives when Mishimas are top-tiers.
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least obvious Steve main
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>>521138962
this guy was green ranks in dumbed down 7 and purple ranks in double dumbed down 8
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>>521139131
So?
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>>521138908
now that's a 30s yrld Anna
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>>521139198
personally I don't care they aged down Anna in 8
She looks hot as hell and that's all that matters
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>>521139150
nobody cares about your opinions on tekken or fighting game design broadly when you're peaking at those ranks in the easy tekken games
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>>521136951
that's gotta be bait. average overwatch player
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sovl
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>>521139481
its pretty obvious hes trying to make a joke
you might have autism
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>>521139297
choose
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>>521136809
>>521137047
>implying the the big size isn't on purpose
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>>521139635
abilify sounds like it unlocks the gene
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>>521139317
overrated as FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgdl5PYcevY
this on the otherhand is 100% certified GEM status
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couldnt they wait for tekken 9 to make it awful?
at least we could play the previous game with rollback
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I feel like if the roster was at like 15 people we'd have less hostility
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>>521139854
for me it was the city stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd03kxpoQYM
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>>521139317
dont be sad that tekken ended, be happy that it happened
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step aside plebs
https://youtu.be/yVnFizpZ-zA
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>>521139317
be happy that tekken ended
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>>521140059
i thought you guys had t7 because of tracks like this
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If soulcalibur 6 have gotten rollback I wouldn't even be playing kekken
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>>521139960
u wot m8? the big base roster with most the good characters is practically the one thing they actually got right imo. specifics of character vs character balance isn't the issue with the game even if it'd be better with fewer characters.
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I'm happy Tekken is finally over one way or another. We're all free at last...
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>>521140198
hated*
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>>521139297
Ranks are literally an hours game. You just put in more time.
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>>521140432
that's a nice way to cope with being bad, also in tekken 6 you needed way more than 50% of a win-rate to climb ranks and especially if you weren't fighting the same rank
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>>521140198
i posted it ironically
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>>521140715
was hard to tell in that sea of unirony
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>>521139898
tekken 7 has rollback
tekken 8 uses a similar system of netplay as tekken 7 did
you're tech illiterate
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>>521139960
that's because tekken players don't even like tekken
>labbing 100+ moves? no I will not do that, and I will complain when I get knowledge checked, but I'm against any moves getting removed as well
>my main is the weakest in the roster borderline unplayable and needs MAJOR help next patch
>execution excuses everything including unblockable launchers
>strings? should be useless and easily OS'd or fuzzied
>flavor mechanics? should not exist unless it's tag because tag = good because...uh...
>something has been broken for 5 years so now you can't change it, it is now "legacy"
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>>521139293
I concur
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>>521140773
those were all me and also ironic. you're terrible at this
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>>521140985
at what?
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How rampant is jack and paul on ranked?
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would anna date someone of her height?
a-asking for a friend
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>>521140198
that song is memed because it's the most hated one
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>>521141096
we all uninstalled and boycotted already
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>>521141286
sounds like he had a blast
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>>521141096
ain't nobody still playing this shit, my nigga
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paid off by the saudi to kill it so they can make way for VF6
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speedkicks is the Neil The Grass Tyson of Tekken
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>kekken 8 is gonna die before VF6 even comes out

Kind of anticlimactic
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>>521141096
probably bad. i wouldn't know
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>>521141956
It's ironic
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>>521141956
I've never played vf how did it compare to tekke
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Come home, white man.
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Its time to jump ship to competitive power stone
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VF6 will have strive numbers at most
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HMN crying naked dogeza at EVO Japan
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Has an old fighting ever been rebalanced when getting ported/relaunch? Like imagine soulcalibur 2/sf third strike getting rebalanced
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>>521142537
damn they werent kidding when they said arc systems ruined dbfz
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>>521142732
Cope faggot
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>>521142537
holy shit what a semi finals
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>>521139317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOSTgMPH1uc
take me back
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>>521142949
Don't make me post the revo steam chart
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>>521141096
You'll find a lot more Kings since they are the braindead type that would have no problem with the state of the game.
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I'm a t7 noob. Who do I main now that kazumi is gone
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they nerfed pauls dpd.df4
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>>521143427
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>4 minutes into frame reupload
>he's still going on about saudis
How schizo is this going to be
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>>521143090
fugg.......
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Which character would you guys recommend if i don't wanna lab anything and just plan on learning by playing ranked?
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Feels good to be a fan of only the 2nd worst fighting game on the market (Strive)
I'm glad I never touched 8. anime fighters stay winning as usual.

>>521142732
I'm sorry you wasted your time but your life begins now
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>>521143792
whatever the current broken top tier is, so like bryan, jin, lars, paul, jack, clive
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i also go into random generals and brag about an irrelevant game i play
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Has it ever been this bad before in any fighting game? They can't fix this with nerfs and buffs. They practically need to throw the entire fucking game out
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>>521143940
This is categorically the most self destructive update in fighting game history
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>>521143792
C-Ciel, C-Nanaya, Tsurugi, and Hyde
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tasty steve's tekken 7 commentary is the reason why tekken 8 sucks so bad
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Man, just thinking about some things in retrospect makes me laugh. Like PhiDx after the Tekken Talk saying "we don't know; they haven't released the full patch notes yet."

Like what the fuck did you think was going to happen, you stupid nigger?
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my game works and isn't the laughingstock of all of /vg/
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>>521143427
nobody because there is not a single character on the tekken 8 season 2 roster that is as honest as kazumi was
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>>521143507
honestly, what would you guys do if reina looks at you like that?
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Do any of your friends still play? Literally everyone in my group quit.
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>>521143121
Not him and I'd be ecstatic if it even got soive numbers, but it's a 20 year old game that's been packed with Yakuza a million times already. Even rereleases of much bigger (in the west) Capcom fighters like the recent Marvel collection get shit concurrent Steam numbers.
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Stop jerking off, beat your porn addiction before it's too late
Do things you enjoy with that time instead
Stop jerking off
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blud just said your friends oh my days
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>>521144502
yeah, tekken 7
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>>521144803
Impossible, even worse with this franchise because Anna exists.
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This is the strangest life cycle of any fighting game I've ever seen. This game was literally getting 9s and 10s back in January of last year.
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>>521144257
He was coping anon he really didn't think they would commit suicide
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>>521145026
and then a month later they introduce microtransactions and battle pass. That alone tells you all that you need to know about the development ethos of this game.
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>>521144803
>Do things you enjoy with that time instead
But I am doing that
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a woman came up and hit on me
i was looking at pens at a daiso and she asked which one was my favorite. I was confused and didn't know what she wanted, then she reiterated and asked me to pick one. I pointed to a random one and said "anyway, have a nice day", then she stopped me and asked for my name. She gave me hers and said she just thought I was cute. I got so surprised I stood there for a couple seconds then she apologized for bothering me and walked away

I am gonna die alone bro that might have been my last shot. I'm 5'8" and balding
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>>521145026
It was all fake as fuck the warning signs were present since CNT
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>>521144352
give her a noogie and tuck her into bed while reading her her favorite bed time stories with warm milk.
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>>521145026
Reviewers don't give a shit about the state of the game only how braindead and mashy it can be to get through story
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>>521145226
based
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Lee Chaolan passed away on April 1, 2025, in Tekken 8. Born in 1994, Lee was known for his remarkable skill and agility, particularly his mastery of the ws2,3 technique, and his exceptional evasiveness.
May his memory bring comfort to those who knew him.
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>>521145026
the heat system was retarded on day 1
journos won't know the difference if a move is + or - 20
the reason actual players were so positive is because they expected the game to get better with time not worse
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>haha remember a few years back when they released that patch that almost killed the game
>yeah, what a funny time, even had a move called "make some noise"
>LOL. We've come a long way, I'm having a blast playing godken 8. Just finished a ranked set with my Armor King. Almost 75k players online, wow.
>Same, I even entered Evo this year, over 8000 entrants. The game just keeps growing.
>Haha, yeah it's great
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>>521145637
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>>521145995
Anon...
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>>521145637
Season 3 Lee is going to be cancer.
He's going to fuse with Violet and get guard breaks or some shit
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>>521145995
75 players online*
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>>521145026
>reviewers
lol?
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>>521145995
https://youtu.be/MF9nY-hAnaw
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>>521145995
anooo...
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>>521145995
>Aris on commentary
>"Arslan activates heat! He uses his once-a-set heat mode on a combo extender!"
>Murray signing autographs in the back at EVO
>/tekgen/ has multiple lobbies up
I can't wait
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>didn't even peak 7k today
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wakie wakie, here's what's really in store for us:
>Harada forced into early retirement
>Murray transferred to Bandai Namco USA for a strictly company management related role
>Nakatsu demoted from Director to Designer and stuck working on Ace Combat games for the rest of his life
>No new Tekken games until 2039 when Namco tries to do a full reboot banking on nostalgia that doesn't exist
>None of the 1994-2024 Tekken Project team are involved, consulted, or even asked to work on the game
>Reboot flops and series dies off forever
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Frame vid was shit
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Capcom Won
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We're gonna die in a nuclear war before we reach 2030 though
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>>521146436
kek
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I think rage arts are fine, just make them once per match. No clue how tekken players put up with the threat of it EVERY round. In SF people are already getting fucking sick of level 3s being shit out 3 times a match
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Ohio ahh game :skull:
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>>521145995
someone post straight-jacket murray image
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5 years from now tekken will be a dead franchise and the community will be divided between playing tekken 7 or mashen 8 season 2.5
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Lots of posers here who pretend to love older tekken games but its not really their fault. Namco doesn’t remaster fucking anything
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>>521147175
did arslan make enough money to retire?
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tekken players were mercilessly raped in the misty easter of '25
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>>521147138
>level 3s being shit out 3 times a match
what the fuck
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>>521147367
Arslan comes from a rich family. He literally didn't need Tekken at all
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man this is really the hottest mod yet, too bad game is shit
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>>521147481
Sf6 super animations do a fuck ton of damage and have very long animations. Bare minimum there are always 2 a match, but occasionally you get 3.
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Bros why is there character select screen so much more soul...
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>>521147604
is this true? I thought his whole thing was rags to riches
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>>521147732
you guys really need to post more of the ass tho. ive only seen it once.
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>>521147878
His dad is a doctor and he lives in a compound in Lahore. He's the top 1% in Pakistan
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>>521147367
Him and Atif are basically millionaires in terms of pakistani cost of living. Not sure if he could total quit everything though
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>>521148037
I thought his dad died early or some shit, his dad was against him playing video games
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>>521147878
There is crazy class disparity over there, you’re better off looking it up instead of believing retards here.
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>>521147874
Kino. It kind of reminds me of the FF3 character select even though it's actually not like that at all.
>but then why would it remind you
because i have brain damage i guess idk
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>>521147732
>hottest outfit
>ka still looks like a tranny
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>>521148260
where would I even look that shit up?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/s/IkrsCB63lF
u turn bros
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>>521148086
Yeah his dad died and that's when he went all in on competitive play. Never seen anything if his family was rich tho.
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>>521147940
here

>>521148340
stfu
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>>521149049
very practical pants
quick access for shitting
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things have to get worse before they get better. remember dat
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>>521147732
it looks retarded you autistic coomers have zero taste
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>>521150516
you're just gay my dude
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>>521150583
i'm even more straight than you
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>>521150486
No things collapse and hit rock bottom if they get worse enough
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>>521149049
alright yeah I'm convinced about that outfit now
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>>521149049
>>521147732
>patreon
Give us a free link
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>>521151386
its free in patreon anon, just click the naver link
https://www.patreon.com/posts/tekken-8-stellar-125521797
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>>521151804
Father it's time to let go bruv...
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>>521151804
Does father play anyone else other than lee...
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>>521151804
it's ogre
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Who's hated more Nico Harrison or Micheal Murray?
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>>521153152
>Nico hate
>Dallas and Balkans

>Murray hate
>The whole world
Murray
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im a loser cuck
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Can we just get t5dr with rollback and murray can have his ugly ass kusoge
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>>521154127
jade...
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>>521147874
because it is a game from the previous decade, so it is easy to load every character on screen at once.
for tekken, you would need to render all of them at once, machines cant handle that.
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eating snacks and I can feel my heart dying in real time
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why are there no jewish characters
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>>521151875
Oh shit, thanks.
Same installation as all the other coomer mods on Nexus right
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I haven't played Drag since T8 release, but he's such a fun character to play. I'm enjoying him in S2
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>>521155208
heihachi?
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>>521155551
Heihachi is too chad to be Jewish
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TIME TO PLAY
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>>521155208
Dr Bosconovitch? Russian jew maybe
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>>521155372
yeah
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>>521155920
>alisa is jewish
it all makes sense now..
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fatal fury fans are having fun at evo...what about us bros?
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We need a grounded Israeli character in the game
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tekgen... is it over?
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we all playing tekken 7, right?
any tournaments soon?
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im playing nothing
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https://pastebin.com/HwXAAiQ8
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i made some spicy pork stew in the slow cooker. you guys want some?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdgXXJc6Mw
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>>521158524
ive already got potato salad for tonight, I'll take some leftovers for tomorrow though
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>>521157408
there are no children in Tekken to bomb so that would be a waste
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I miss playing Tekken 8 Season 1
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i don't. i trudged through it because i was being hopeful. what a fool i was.
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>>521156739
True!
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LEO LEO LEO
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Look at the screen, Michael
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look at it, michael *spreads ass*
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this pic is gold
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>>521160052
tonguing ling's asshole
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don't forget to check out TEKKEN SPECIAL DEALS while they're still up - limited time only!
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why is fightinggm 24/7 arguing with someone about some made up gripe
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>>521160052
All of these costumes are fuck ugly, please stop posting them. Trannies literally cannot comprehend how to be a woman.
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>>521160052
cute, not sure why anon is being rude
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>>521158118
I don't know why I wasted my time reading it but I don't feel every character is doing what lars/jun/hwoarang got buffed to do quite yet, that will be s3
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>>521160343
i'm not being rude at all
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All they need to do is add a "no Heat" mode that players can toggle when setting up a lobby. But they are afraid of how popular it would be even after they fix the main game.
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>>521155513
'nov is the essence of fundamental tekken
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i just want the tekken 8 models in tekken 7 is that too much to ask??????
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I THINK I THOUGHT I SAW DEVS TRY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5W2vZPDIh4
rapebros it's up
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>>521145995
I genuinely hope they don't add Armor King to this game. He deserves better. Let him rest in peace.
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>>521161948
>I genuinely hope they don't add Armor King to this game. He deserves better.
He also deserves better than the abomination they turned him into with Tekken 7 S4
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I exposed myself
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wow its dropping faster than normal
low is normally in about an hour and a half
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>3,708 players right now
anooo i worked on tekkenu for 30 years arigato sayonara
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>>521161948
i really hope the other season 2 characters are like, fakhrumram and some other stupid shit no one wants
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(1/?)
Tone 8:21 PM
7.0 had input lag worse than tag2 emulator
leroy release
system changes are the biggest reason why its so bad


Speedkicks 8:22 PM
not just system changes but
design philosophy
there have been slight breaks from design philosophy in the past
Tekken 7 S3 and S4 stuff raised question marks
Leroy was not a big freak out to the community because he was just broken
But because he was broken in ways that seemingly intentionally went against past Tekken design
Same for Fahk


PhiDX 8:25 PM
The i12 mid CH stood out the most to me, as well as having an orbital and god parry and hellsweep but I will do some more reading and watching
7.0 is the big mystery to me outside of like shaheen 4,1 and Kazumi df1 and Bryan launching CH hatchet


Speedkicks 8:25 PM
Basically
Tekken is a game with like
3k moves in it?


PhiDX 8:26 PM
Jesus yeah


Speedkicks 8:26 PM
In theory a 3k move game is like impossible to balance
But the way it works is that it's all governed by system rules and philosophy
So
high/mid/low
specific hitstun/blockstun states
and tracking/homing
That's where our game differs a bit from 2D games where character differences are more loose
Where like a character could have a whole mechanic of their own
Everything that is added to that 3k move list fits the system
But what made it more balanced than that was specific universal ideas attached to them
i10 jabs
i13 mid pokes
some i12 mids can exist but they are specifically low damage and poor frame advantage
i15 launchers


PhiDX 8:30 PM
The Feng b4's


Speedkicks 8:30 PM
etc
hold on gimme 5 min


PhiDX 8:30 PM
Homing giving up turn


Speedkicks 8:39 PM
ok
so
when they establish these rules and this philosophy
they have a set of bounds to challenge themselves to design within
And for a long time they did a good job of doing that
And when a character broke one of these, it was very rare and it was kind of a defining feature of that character.
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(2/?)
Speedkicks 8:46 PM
Like Xiaoyu and Zafina evasive stances that evade more than just "high" but also "some" mids.
Instead of being hard coded to work within that h/m/l system, they could do hitbox evasion.
Yoshi's flash and special sidestep (spin)
But for the most part Tekken characters were within the bounds of Tekken
Which is why Geese and Akuma were such a big deal
Obviously in T7 some of the legacy design philosophy was violated in small ways that only nerds would notice but nothing super crazy outside of the 2Ds
until Leroy
He came beating the shit out of us with his i12 mid safe CH launcher
His long range homing + on block high
His cane (that may have been + on block on release I can't remember) (edited)
His moves with built in parry
And the ease of it all
And then a couple months later there was Fahkumram
And the homing hellsweeep patch
It was obv that Namco was breaking design for the sake of the shock of breaking design. Almost in a way that a poorly written show tries to subvert expectations for the sake of it.


PhiDX 8:52 PM
Right... "wouldn't it be insane if"


Speedkicks 8:52 PM
Yeah
And so then Tekken 8 comes out and that stuff is kinda like...scattered throughout the game. They took a couple good steps forward in the things they removed that limited Tekken 7 gameplay like the overtuned risk/reward on low parries, CH launches, n all that.
But there was these lil seeds of ass "forced design subversion" scattered through it
Law junkyard getting a wallsplatting mid. (edited)
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>>521159839
dixxer here, im gonna give (You) a (You), since your general is so terrible with that.
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(3/3)
PhiDX 8:54 PM
LMAO right


Speedkicks 8:54 PM
Basically everything about Lars including that random buff he got.
Kuma.


PhiDX 8:54 PM
Glaciating was saying Heihachi felt reasonable aside from god mode and heat smash

Speedkicks 8:55 PM
Yeah on release, Heihachi was a good balance of modern dogshit and regular Tekken. I think.
BUT
Now
Tekken 8 S2
Everybody has this shit.
To the point where the last bit of Tekken we were able to play due to their "good steps forward" have all been eclipsed by just being stuck in the fucking bullshit
It's worse than other bad patches because we're not just playing unbalanced Tekken. And we're no longer playing Tekken neutral to AVOID getting put in non-tekken situations. We're just straight up forced into dealing with these anti patterns from start to finish.
No matter where you are on the screen, Jun can touch you.
Everything you used to do to stop Hwoarang from stance mix is dead and also he has a + on block mid CONTINUATION string from his "ender" stance.
Law's heat mode was where he felt like god and now he can refill his heat multiple times per combo due to nunchucks.
Every place where the game previously deviated from the system and design philosophies has been turned up 10 fold.
What we used to complain about for select characters and situations has now spread to every character and situation
I think when they said they wanted to turn up every character's "uniqueness" that "uniqueness" was supposed to translate to "things this character does outside the governing design philosophy of the 3k moves in the game".
1500 changes of that uniqueness.
Shit is fucking washed they need to reset the patch, they destroyed like 30 years worth of collective work in one patch.
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nigga keep the transcript no one gives a fuck
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>>521162893
it's bruce and kunimitsu ii
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>>521163101
>kunimitsu ii
i don't need more reasons not to play tekken 8.
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I don't get why didn't just make 5DR in UE5 with rollback? Seems like the easiest win ever.
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>>521162956
thank you and wtf is that lol
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>>521163550
They're trying to make money
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>>521163908
Doesn't look like it to me
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>>521163025
I thought it was an interesting read.
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I played some tekken 8 tonight
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>>521163550
scamco likes to do scarcity tactics
that would go against their practices
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>>521162896
>>521162949
>>521163001
This is actually a really important highlight. When I started learning about frame data in 7, I was amazed at how everything sort of made sense. Like if a move did a certain thing, you could match it to other moves from other characters and get a fairly balanced understanding of the game. But there were a lot of very weird exceptions and weird balancing that started with 7. Things I picked up on which didn't make sense. There was a time when Katarina's powercrush was -15 I think? And so was Law's, but Law's did 2x the damage. Katarina also had a slow headbutt that was -12, yet it was a high, and usually those are +ob, etc. These things eventually got patched, but it was very strange how much it differed from the frame system, like it was overlooked. At some point moves simply started to 'do' things, though. Like when they gave Feng's db3 the ch property, it essentially put it into it's own category of low, it couldn't be compared to anything. Fahk's bf4 and his 3+4 before they were nerfed, just very odd moves that were strictly better than anything else in a category.
In 8, the science of Tekken frame data no longer exists. Moves just do things now, independent of others. You can have a relatively fast +10 OB mid that goes into a stance. They forgot what made Tekken feel logical.
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>>521164091
At this point, idk what to say. Nakatsu made both 7 and 8, but they're so wildly different in terms of mechanical integrity that I legit think he got brain damage when S3 begins.
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Well Tekken 8, it looks like you've lost.
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>3,695 players right now
we'll hit maintenance numbers with new patch and season
can't stop clapping
retarded fucks
complete silence for almost 8 days
and these online numbers doesn't mean anything you can't find games even in prime time
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>>521164185
I think when Murray said he approves cool-looking shit and then they do it, he wasn't joking.
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>>521163854
thats our year 1 pro tour winner, uma. won the million dollars then disappeared forever.
legend says if you are lucky you can see him donating money to vtubers
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>>521164091
Tekken frame data never makes sense because its a Frankenstein of VF with SF mechanics, its an abomination that deserves to burn in hell like its doing currently so that REAL 3D fighters can come back get outta here with your limb-based attack buttons and bullshit Rage/Heat/etc mechanics
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How many season passes were bought?
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night with Anna, my beloved~
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>>521164723
Go fuck yourself
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>vf
go back to your general, oh wait
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>>521164904
wouldn't joke about that, might be us soon
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>>521164992
you obviously haven't experienced 2023 tekgen
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nah everyone is still enjoying tekkino 8 besides the 17ers having a melty
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>>521164091
>But there were a lot of very weird exceptions and weird balancing that started with 7.
7 homogenized frame data and characters a lot. Same with the transition from 5 to 6 and then a little in Tag 2.
>some point moves simply started to 'do' things, though. Like when they gave Feng's db3 the ch property, it essentially put it into it's own category of low, it couldn't be compared to anything.
Lee's silver low.
>Fahk's bf4 and his 3+4
Fahk's 3+4 is comparable to Jin and Lili's f4. His bf4 is like the multiple plus on block high natural hit launchers in 7, like Julia/Asuka. Property-wise they were strictly superior, but those aren't alien moves.
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did someone say melty?
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when i came back to tekgen around end of 2023 they were talking about some weird ling schizo, i never understood what it was or meant
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>>521165062
You are a retard, Murray
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>>521165151
plap ling was the trend at the time
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>3,573
murray do something
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preordered cotw
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no murray that's not it
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MK1-esque announcement of EoS any day now
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>>521165093
>Lee's silver low.
do you mean his d3? I'm pretty sure that is minus on hit and didn't track
>Fahk's 3+4 is comparable to Jin and Lili's f4
comparable now, but it was strictly better when he launched
>multiple plus on block high natural hit launchers in 7, like Julia/Asuka
I'm pretty sure none of them granted that kind of knd stun +frame nor gave the kind of combo his did
>Property-wise they were strictly superior, but those aren't alien moves.
That's kind of what it means though. Leroy's orbital on release was faster than everyones and like -3. Sure, it was still an orbital type move and functioned as one, but it was not normal in the slightest. That's what speedkicks is talking about, the disruption of logical frame data.
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it'll go back up to 5-6k in a few hours when EU people are awake
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>>521166072
i am awake, just had a choco muffin
playing a link to the past though
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>>521166072
it'll go back to 5-6 when there is still no indication of progress from the dev team by tomorrow night
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I'm going to play Link in soul caliber 2 for the switch 2
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need to finish rog of midnight then it's on to commandos
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finna buy tactical breach wizards
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>>521166361
me too!!
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i love my mommy so much ill stomach t8 for her and play her in tag 2...
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>>521165961
>do you mean his d3? I'm pretty sure that is minus on hit and didn't track
Yeah, d3 is called silver low. I was thinking that high crushing + CH property (launch in this case) + i16 was enough to say they're comparable. If we take away evasion, then Anna's df4 is up there. And law's banana peel (df3+4) also is pretty much Feng's db3, but it's i18.
>I'm pretty sure none of them granted that kind of knd stun +frame nor gave the kind of combo his did
They weren't crumple stuns, yeah. Fair point.
>Leroy's orbital on release was faster than everyones and like -3.
True, wasn't it like i20? His entire frame data suite at launch had a better version of archetypal tools. I follow you on this.
>That's what speedkicks is talking about, the disruption of logical frame data.
Sure, but it's "logical" from our post-Tekken 6 frame data perspectives. Plus on block df1 and i8 jab strings, which are clearly illlogical when you ponder them for even a little, were present on multiple characters throughout Tekken history. We're now moving into Clive b2 style attacks, pseudo-homing or real homing into real stance mixup from range 3. But there was already Josie who had a mid poke into stance mixup on block, and could mix you up from range 3 with the crouch dash low/mid options.
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https://x.com/XOVERbry/status/1909893677587341748
Oh my inputs not registeringthe two days I decided to play is actually the game just being completely broken. Why do these people not have patch tests? Like genuinely where is that money going?
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tekken project staff are on vacation until may
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>last tekken xitter post was april 4
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>>521167075
get a tag equal to your twitter handle so i can block you
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>>521164091
I don't think Tekken has ever followed strict rules. In T5 Kazuya's db4 is +7 and safe on block but Jin's d4 is minus on hit and launch on block. There are patterns, but always numerous exceptions for no reason. I think when power levels are overall low, and movement is good, you can deal with the anomalous moves and it feels like the movelists are balanced, but they're not, half of the moves are completely redundant for a start. I think if someone intelligent designed a Tekken game it would be incredible but it seems that will never happen. I too want the series to die and stay dead, its ugly and only makes me think of past games, which were sometimes accidentally good, in a worse light.
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>>521166072
I'm awake, not playing this kuso
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>>521167354
tekken by old icefrog...
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>>521167557
I'd be genuinely excited if Valve announced a fighting game.
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>>521167302
hey murray
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IS THAT MY FAVORITE BRAND MAKING A PRODUCT IM HYPED IM HYPED!!!
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>>521167354
>In T5 Kazuya's db4 is +7 and safe on block but Jin's d4 is minus on hit and launch on block
In that instance you can point out the speed difference and Jin's d4 having high crushing. But I get your point - a low like Kazuya's Tag 1/T5 stature kick would not exist in current Tekken.
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mailman looks like he's forcing himself to play tekken8
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However, there is no winning in the conventional sense. There are only ways to lose heroically, gloriously and at the peak of one's humanity. Or to lose
ignominiously, in a selfish, cowardly, frightened manner.
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>>521167354
jun mogs...
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every female I meet has a bigger dick than me
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>>521166195
Cute post. Sounds like a nice morning.
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>>521167354
>I think if someone intelligent designed a Tekken game it would be incredible but it seems that will never happen
Yeah, there's an amazing core game but it has retards at the helm dumping more and more dogshit on it every year. Only Tekken players can truly hate this series as much as it deserves.
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>>521168021
I bet he's a guy and you want to groom him, pedo
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>>521166823
The thing about db3 is that on it's own it was launch punishable because of the properties it had- fast, tracking, high-crush, + on hit. The added ch property made it S-tier. Technically some other standing lows could be comparable, but I don't think any of them hit all the marks if memory serves me right.
>>521166823
>>521167354
Yeah, it's also true that there were outliers and things were never quite perfect. I do think that T7 S1/S2 achieved the most balanced approach to it. You still had a few silly things like Jin db4 fully launching, but generally moves felt balanced.
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>>521167629
As a curiosity in the last dota event there was a mini fighting game with the heroes
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>>521167557
yea i feel like one unequivocal genre where icefrog design should work is fighting games: characters with strong, almost broken qualities, but also big weaknesses. maybe a few well-rounded characters.
also weird characters, some that dont use the game mechanics at all, some that can use twice as much, etc...
>>521167629
fgs are so far behind in terms of live service. no events, no fun christmass or halloween stuff, no multiple ui to choose from, no voice com.... so bad
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I went down, down, down
And the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ring of fire
The ring of fire
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what happened to deadlock anyway? did it die?
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>>521141173
No, Lidia is considerably taller.
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good morning tekgen
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>>521168190
yeah it's over.
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>>521168105
i always felt like dota could use a training mode map, where you could practice blink dodging spells, reacting to this or that, and so on. but not even modders did that
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delete heat burst
they'll never do it, but that one change would help so much
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>>521168190
it is still in beta, so after the initial hype things died down and only the nerds are still playing it, streamers have to chase the next big thing.
it will pop off again once it actually releases or something
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>>521168252
gm
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>>521166823
>But there was already Josie who had a mid poke into stance mixup on block, and could mix you up from range 3 with the crouch dash low/mid options.
Also to touch on this a bit because I did play Josie a lot- Josie's df4 was basically a setup for her SWS1. As long as you didn't mash, you were going to get your turn back or be -1 at worst. She couldn't loop you into infinite frame situations from SWS in the way we see characters doing in 8 where you either hard read or stay trapped.
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>>521168464
Isn't it still in alpha even?
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>once it actually releases
LMAO the only chance that garbage has is being a marketplace scam
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>>521168403
I don't think they necessarily have to get rid of heat burst, but heat burst should give a lot less heat gauge than it currently does. Maybe half or less, the drawback is not big enough. Also its hitbox is TOO FUCKING BIG on characters like Bryan, it's stupid the way it is currently implemented, why should Bryan's track 360 degrees and hit when his opponent is literally on the fucking ground in combos other than blatant favoritism? Shit should be equal for the whole cast or at the very least not enable such retarded combos like Bryan's and Jin's.
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riot games will save us
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tying heat to install seems like a balance nightmare to me
although they dont give a shit about balance
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Oh my god i forgot deadlocked existed lmfao
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>>521168087
>Technically some other standing lows could be comparable, but I don't think any of them hit all the marks if memory serves me right.
I think Law's df3+4 is the most comparable. It satisfies
>CH property
>high crushes
>fast (i18)
>long-range
>has tracking
>+4 on hit, puts them into crouch
>-15 on block
One could say the difference between i16 and i18 doesn't matter that much, but at +8 you no longer can hopkick to avoid Feng's db3, which basically means if you eat a jab or 1,2 then you have to low parry or block it. So Feng's db3 with the CH property is definitely an overtuned low. Probably why they made it i17 and steppable in T8.
>>521168497
True, I'm just saying the blueprint for mid poke on block > stance transition > "don't contest" > opens up the mixup mindgame was there with her, it wasn't a fake situation like the Lars stuff on block. Which they made real this patch, lol.
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meat burst only gives 50% of meat meter
chip damage removed, grey health only dealt through combos
meat engagers are +8 on hit
meat dash gives +3 on block
rage arts are -23 on block
i just saved tekken. murray hire this(me) man
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Heat doesn't work because it's 2D mechanic implemented in a way that works every round instead of building up over time.
If everyone functioned like Heihachi it would be fine
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heat was always going to be a balance nightmare, that's why it was a fucking idiotic decision to put it in the game. Best case scenario you'd still have idiots, even if everybody else was satisfied with the mechanic, going WAH WAH WAH my character's heat is bad and not as good as this other character, buff my character's heat boo hoo hoo. But because it is a stupid idea they get morons crying about that and people crying about heat in general.
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>>521141096
Find more jinniggers than Jacks but there were 2 last time I played ranked
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>>521168821
+8? Too high, should be +5 IMO. Heat engagers are still deadly and serve a purpose the health regen.
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the only moba i played, which was for like 3 hours at most, was league. played darius.
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>>521168162
>no events, no fun christmass or halloween stuff, no multiple ui to choose from, no voice com
I can't even be bothered to care about that when FGs still come out with dogshit netcode and ranked. It's really no surprise that this genre stays niche when it's so far behind every other competitive game in every single regard surrounding the gameplay, while charging full price and having paid DLC characters and stages, and now this patch renders it not even up for debate that the gameplay is worse and skill ceiling lower than other popular comp games.
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>>521168578
That's because the hitbox of the heat burst is just a repurposed version of an animation that already exists (there are probably one or two characters that have unique animations, idk) and they are too lazy to go back and nerf Bryan/Jin/other offending characters like they did Kazuya. Because it would fuck up some of the current heat burst staples and the people playing them would throw a bitch fit.
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JUST MAKE HEAT A FUCKING METER YOU BUILT
YOU KNOW LIKE HOW HEAT RISES UP THE TEMPERATURE? GEDDIT?
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>>521169005
>Because it would fuck up some of the current heat burst staples
That makes me wonder how much harder it is to balance moves when you have all these long ass drawn out combos.
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>>521168825
having it build up over time is more of a 2D mechanic imo
I can see nakatsu's vision for it, they want the tempo of the match to suddenly go up a hundred degrees when a heat engager hits, not someone sitting on heat because they get a full meter on activation, so they would be popping it when they need it to kill/comeback, basically like heat burst but even stronger
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isn’t it weird how phil is so open about his love for white women yet his asian fiancee seems to be okay with that? and they told a story about how she used to not be into asian men at all… feels like there’s some weird cuck dynamic going on…
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>>521168956
should've had fun and played smite arena
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>>521168797
it's been all downhill since TI3, wish we could go back
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24ers be like just nerf heat? what's the problemo? Yeah my back button doesn't do anything either, isn't that just tekken?
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That would require actual thinking and you know HMN, shimbori and the other fucks they yoinked from SC aren't doing that.
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>>521168821
nigga recoverable life needs to go too and nerfs to combo damage/length
which includes removing heat burst entirely
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>>521169151
my gf is latina but i love asian whores
she is into the typical k-pop idol, i'm not asian
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>>521169151
i legitimately could not care any less about that little retards life
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>>521169254
recoverable life is like one of the few good additions to tekken 8, since it indirectly nerfs the power crept combos in modern tekken
problem is that they added another system that interacts with it called chip/guard damage
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>>521169325
it’s a retarded comeback mechanic that shouldn’t exist in a non-tag tekken game
do you think oki getting gutted is a good change because the attacker can’t hurt you as much
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>>521168991
yea its fucked up
>>521169187
i get big nostalgia sometimes, when me and my m8s would play that all night. should be happy that it happened i guess
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>>521169005
Let them have a bitch fit, fuck it, Are H&M so twitter addicted they can't stay off twitter for a week? Goddamn.
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>>521168804
I honestly think Law is an outlier because his db3 + slide is so busted he didn't need to think about df3+4 much.
But, yeah, it's comparable, just still not nearly as good.
>it wasn't a fake situation like the Lars stuff on block
True, but it's also what kept Lars on the lower end of tiers back then. I do think
>fast move on block into forced stance mix
Is aids, but at the same time I'm not sure how else that type of character is supposed to work. If Josie didn't have df4, we probably never see SWS used ever. Lars had no say to force a SEN mixup unless he was going to gamble those transition moves hitting raw, at which point you were being a retard(which most Lars players are anyway).
The idea is fine, but the way they did Lars in S2 is clearly not the right way.
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>>521169593
Murray's already used to blocking people complaining. I don't see why he'd care.
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>>521169325
recoverable life would be good if it was applied to single hit moves too
because right now it serves as an indirect buff to any character that get their damage from pokes/chunky lows and mids instead of combos
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victor and yoshimitsu broken oki saars my oki is honesto tho return it now listen to community thanks and good day from india
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>>521169556
>do you think oki getting gutted is a good change because the attacker can’t hurt you as much
tekken 7/8 have non-okizeme
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I'm not the "I'm a loser" poster... it was just a coincidence I swear...!
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>>521169691
nigga combos are so broken in this game that it literally doesn’t matter
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>>521169772
why do you retards keep saying 7 had no oki
7 had a ton of oki
>but muh re-floats
are fucking STUPID
nobody liked refloats
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game's accursed I exorcised it
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>>521121768
where is the bush?
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>>521169989
people somehow forgot about the 'DUK
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how minus are get up kicks in 7 again? I forgot
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CRASHING THIS PLAYERCOUNT
WITH NO SURVIVORS
sub 3k before april ends
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if they release a Lei trailer before this S2 is reverted, this game is completely dead
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>>521170079
depends on the characters orientation
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well atleast i got a new thomas pynchon book to look forward to this year
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>>521170140
MURRAY ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY MURRAY?
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>>521170140
is that a new low?
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>>521127647
3 year lifecycle for a Tekken game would be absolutely disastrous what is likely the highest budget one. These games have life cycles and how long you're going to milk them is pre-decided.
Tekken 9 is probably not even in an early ideation phase, these guys have no idea how long games take to make these days.
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blue prince and promise mascot agency both come out tomorrow
i'm so glad season 2 sucks and i can play those games instead
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>>521170306
I think numbers went sub 3k while waiting for Lidia or something, steamchart posters were going crazy until vf5revo barely broke 1k
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>>521169989
>why do you retards keep saying 7 had no oki
because it factually didn't? it nerfed oki in many ways
>colossal failure of game design called generic throw system and throw break window made more lenient, so generic throws that gave oki are unseen
>almost no refloats
>instead more moves hit grounded and we got the colossally stupid mechanic called safe flipover mid which often covers every single option besides tech roll
8 actually nerfed the 7 back getup and made it slower, so a lot more spike setups saw use. until they had to nerf it because 24ers got hit with drag b4,2 into qcf4 at the wall one too many times
>nobody liked refloats
I liked them. It was the norm for tekken and they specifically removed it to coddle 17ers like you
it added interaction to combos because you would have to decide whether to back roll or stay grounded, back rolling predictably gets you reset, and staying grounded might make you take extra damage from the opponent but there were extremely limited ways to get oki after taking a grounded hit, unlike in 7/8 where you eat the flipover mid forever
the logical conclusion to 7's getup system where you hold back all the time and mash tech roll is the auto quick back roll they just added
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Didn’t Harada say T9 would be his last? It would be funny if T8 is dying quickly to rush this
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>>521170547
I feel like Harada is the kind of guy to not want to retire.
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>>521169557
browsing dota 2 gen around that time is probably the most fun I've had on this website
pic unrelated to TI
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>>521170489
Post rank and hours in every Tekken game
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>>521170547
if he was smart, he would always say that current game is his last. thats how you get better bargaining power. see: sakurai, kojimbo, etc
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>>521170706
i'm speedkicks
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>>521170615
Looking for work.
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The only way to save Tekken 8 at this point is to revert the patch, BUTCHER heat, add some shit like fd from strive to negate chip damage since they're hellbent on making it an anime game, and add completely insane ass and tits characters. I'm talking a chick with strive baiken tits as big as her head, jack-o hips and Millia ass.
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>>521168797
all my friends stopped playing years ago
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>>521170489
the original throw system in 8 was probably the best version of a throw system we had, and it was nerfed. turns out not even top players want to go back to throws being good.
>muh refloats
shut the fuck up. it was literally not healthy and only led to garbage setups that always favored the attacker because refloat buttons were low risk. pressing df4 on lee doesn't make you a genius.
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>>521170683
yeah it was really good. the banter in that general was really fun
>>521170994
same. i played quite a bit for the crownfall event, but no motivation to grind mmr and no friends to play for fun
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>>521170683
Man, that reminds me how much I miss the shitposting during CS tournaments.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voG09ZRqOf4
crazy how this game seems to have decent mechanics but it just looks like fucking ass and not a single character beyond terry and mai (and terry looks fucking horrible) are interesting
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>>521171075
nigga said yeah give me that homing 10 frame counterhit joint
I like the idea of CH/reversal punish throws tho
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>>521171227
kek forgot about the retarded performances
>>521171228
tournaments in general seemed to be more fun back then, or maybe we just grew up
but CS shitposting was on another level entirely simply because of skin betting my god what a fucking golden age
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I just want to play a 3D fighter with great movement and solid fundamental ruleset, is it too much to ask?
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hmm let's just stop communication all together when we need it teehee
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>>521171075
>the original throw system in 8 was probably the best version of a throw system we had
"generic" throws don't make a lick of sense. you still have characters with throws for every break in tekken. so you still have to learn real throw breaks for each hand, they just made it a character disparity when none existed before. to coddle people who can't break throws.
>garbage setups that always favored the attacker because refloat buttons were low risk
they earned the knockdown. might as well just remove okizeme. and like I said, there were no flipover mids, some broken shit like grounded hitting mids that spike (which did exist in a few games) so staying grounded was the safer option. just don't be predictable and you're fine, but there's a lot of nuance for when you read someone getting off the floor.
>pressing df4 on lee doesn't make you a genius.
that's because he is still plus after whiffing a df4
and I believe the reason df4 even works is because it hits grounded at certain angles/grounded positions (kaz df4 also does this), they could just remove that
in prior games if you ended a wall combo with lee b4, not only would you get d3 guaranteed, but if you know they were getting up, you could fully reset them since they'd be in a float state. that entire nuance for every character was just deleted in 7.
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>>521171802
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>>521133554
my thoughts exactly
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I exposed myself
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you'd think with the direction this game is going on, they'd have another sponsor for season 2 lmfao
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I like generic throws because they make it easier to fight most characters and give me another reason to complain about Jin and Hwo
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is ranked any better this season or what
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>>521172093
no sponsors
no new life bar
1499 dogshit changes
intentional failure
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>>521171863
i can't tell if you're baiting or not
the only oki that was removed in 7 were easy refloats, and even then some characters like asuka still had them
any other shitty busted oki situation you're talking about was due to the bound system
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blud is asking about ranked when pauls and jacks are running amok
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>>521172438
yeah i guess the game is in such an unplayable state it's a pretty dumb question to ask
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>tag 2 was base-
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its okay buddy, no matter how dumb you may feel you're not as retarded as HMN and the tekken project team
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>>521172390
The system is better, the game is dogshit
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What does Murray even DO?
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>>521172390
I'd say it's better. Complete ass players aren't getting to Tekken King minimum anymore, no more repeated promo bonus, you need more points to rank up in general. Would be nice if we had this system in s1 because even while ranked seems better I'm not going to get on the game right now lol.
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>>521172675
stalks and blocks people
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Murray exposed himself
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>>521172390
the system is better but the game doesn't have enough players for it lmao. from tekken god and up the queues are completely dead or you just rematch the same nigga for hours in a zero sum game
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>>521172437
show me a looping reset after doing lee b4 as a wall combo with df1 to pick them up if they get up right away in 7
you factually cannot, because you are not able to float/reset them as they get up
with the new back roll getting refloated is exceedingly rare, a few xiaoyu ff3 setups and the like, whereas every character had a dedicated mid that was used to float back rolls in prior games like bryan db2, jin b2, etc
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>s1 nerfs reina stomp
>s2 gives reina super rapeblast spike ender in heat
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>emergency tekken talk announced
>murray and nakatsu are removed from the project
>yuichi yonemori is back
>game changes direction completely
>first step is they revert patch to season 1
>then they show detailed slide show on how they are gonna fix this in 2 months
u rike?
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I think it's time for Soulcalibur
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>>521172852
universal rage art input is a blessing to multicharacter niggas, but I always used the bind anyways
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i was thinking of getting started at tekken recently, cuz sf6 is stale, but doesnt seem like a good time now.
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>>521172819
ok yeah you're baiting
nobody is saying they didn't remove the easy refloats, because they did, that was the point, they were broken
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>>521173096
tekken is always going to be the same for beginners, that is to experience losing to law/eddy mashers face rolling on their controller
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>>521173001
>lose in mirror match
>remember that you’re black
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there's no way they can fix this in 2 months, let alone 6. they'd at best do a year and i'm being generous here. its not like it's not possible, but for tekken project team? these niggas can't do shit.
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>>521173179
and I contest you saying they're broken? that is the discussion
they were fine if you just stayed on the ground, grounded hitting options were less scary than flipover loop in 7/8
of course an advanced player would still get up sometimes to reduce the damage of the grounded hit, but that was already making a read that they wouldn't attempt to catch your backroll to reset you
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>>521173229
we don’t know what they’re capable of without murray and nakatsu at the helm
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>>521173469
I'm also passing on Tekken 8 until they add Lei. In fact, I'm boycotting it. It's simply not good enough.
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>>521171779
>tournaments in general seemed to be more fun back then
A big part of what made tournaments so fun for me was the shitposting in threads and 4chan has declined a lot. Anons are generally less creative and funny, even just less capable of having a good time. I don't think I enjoy tournaments that much less as much as I enjoy 4chan a lot less.
>my god what a fucking golden age
It was so much fun. I wish I saved more images from then. I tried to look up old threads in the archives just to sate my nostalgia but it only goes back to 2019.
>Everyone cheering 'OINK OINK' when JW clutches a round
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Trying to shift the convo from "I hate the game rn" to "say why you hate the game rn" was an impossible task.

People are just pissed
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so true spag
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over a year of feedback was not enough that is true
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The handful of people who is already seeing the pattern in T7 are branded as hateful, ungrateful, mindless hater, crybaby, etc. Yet here we are, it needs to get THIS BAD for the community at large to actually fucking draw a line when theres hundred of dots. It is laughable to expect them to change direction when people cannot stop stroking their ego and keep saying they love the game.
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everyone is still playing tekkino 8 no one cares about 17ers having a melty. the only thing that has changed is you guys have made it so developers have to fear for their safety at public events now. in other words, you are the problem.
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>>521174028
kys, murray
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Season 2 Kazuya is miles above Season 2 Jin. You literally received a move that breaks the character on a core gameplay level, erasing the only identitarian counterplay: 40 damage safe homing mid that wallsplats and heals heat bar. You cannot even dare to SWL Kazuya anymore, therefore Kazuya is a superboss character no matter how you put it.
Jin was profaned on his most identitarian trademark since Tekken 4. They profaned the fame data of a move that behaves the same for more than two decades. So, in order for Jin to receive this ridiculous damage boost, they hurt him first. And some of the nerfs were literal overkill, done merely to make a statement and appease the masses, such as d2 having no CH properties whatsoever at -14. (There is no reactable low from this category that has no CH properties whatsoever at -14 on block.)
PS: I couldn't care less about Jin d2 on a personal level. Good riddance. Literally advocated for the deletion of the move in the past, even knowing that wouldn't happen. Just pointing out that what they did is overkill no matter how I feel about the move in itself because it doesn't follow the standards of everyone else's such as Kazuya d1+2, Eddy ff3, Zafina d3, etc.
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>>521173385
flipover is hardly comparable, it's only at the wall and only a few characters have safe ones where the risk/reward is in their favor. at most it's one hit, you tech, and then move on
refloats changed the game dramatically, because coupled with the bound system, you had moves that literally forced you back into a combo for trying any kind of get up, and if you stayed down you could be refloated by something else. add tag into the mix and there were too many stupid fucking resets.
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>>521172780
This is a problem. But I think its exacerbated by how bad the patch is being received. They probably fucked up by putting in 7 new ranks though. People will definitely get up there but there's going to be like maybe 10 people max at God infinity in each region. Just do ELO at this rate.
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so i was just supposed to know Anna's 1+2 is non lethal despite that not being said anywhere in game or on wavu wiki?
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tell me how long you have been playing tekken and how do you feel about living during tekken's death
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tekken must die so virtua fighter can live
there can only be one 3D fighting game
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>>521174028
why do you just come here and make stuff up, its way past the (You) farming season
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>>521174069
>it's only at the wall and only a few characters have safe ones where the risk/reward is in their favor
it’s tekken 8 bro they literally gave the property to feng df3
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>>521174181
since i was three years old
i am baffled by how horribly tekken 8 has been handled every single step of the way
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I just think this is the time to be constructive. The devs might not have been listening in S1 but they're for sure listening now so we have to stay positive, appreciate their hard work but communicate what we aren't happy with.
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>>521174069
>flipover is hardly comparable, it's only at the wall
???
kazuya, marduk, etc have safe mid flipovers that work in the open after their hellsweep oki
>at most it's one hit, you tech, and then move on
tech roll right into a mixup...
>there were too many stupid fucking resets
doesn't mean the entire mechanic which allows for skill expression should be scrapped in favor of a much more simpler but still oppressive wakeup system that has both less of a skill floor and skill ceiling
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one word: AGGRESSIVE
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>>521174181
>how long you have been playing tekken
on and off since like 2011 with tekken 6
>how do you feel about living during tekken's death
I enjoy the fact that they are finally facing backlash for what they been doing to tekken. But still i'd much rather just have a decent game.
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i played my 4 daily matches with jack8 on a keyboard and won with more ease than playing my main
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>>521174181
Since Tekken 1, I feel good.

Tekken isn't dying but this community is dying and I'm happy to see it die. It deserved to die. The tekken community is wet dogshit and I have to thank T8 for making me realize why I never came to these generals. All of you deserve this.
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>>521174470
skill expression is not pressing b21 on jin for a second bound
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yo that backlash is fire but where's my xitter damage control and blogposting and announcements i don't like where this going ya feel me that's od
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on one hand harada and his clowns finally getting shit is satisfying
on the other hand this canonization of t7 as some sort of kamige and not just a game that clears the extremely low bar of "better than tekken 8" also kind of irks me
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>>521174181
tekken 3
I already played the game which killed tekken, it was called tekken 7
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pre leroy tekken 7 was great
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i played online matches of 5, 6, and 7 back to back all in one day earlier this month and i had the most fun with T7 to be honest
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only the people that started with t7 think it's "good"
too bad that's majority of players now since the casualization and bastardization that came with t7 already cleared out a lot of veterans
when t9 eventually comes people will be hating it for not having heat because the only people left at that point will be t8 dickriders, just like it's all t7 dickriders now
can't wait to reminisice how fucking GOATed and honest tekken 8 was in 2030
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tekken 7 was never good
it was only popular because the alternative was the worst street fight game ever made, jive
VF was completely dead
SNK was completely dead
it was literally the only fighting game, that's why it was a success.
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>>521174287
i thought we were talking about 7
surely you dont want refloats in 8 too on top of everything else
>>521174470
flipover oki for most characters was at the wall
obviously yes marduk and mr casino are outliers but the vast majority of characters could not just flipover oki like that
off of memory, kuni and negan were the other two that were obnoxious about it, dvj too I guess
>tech roll right into a mixup...
better than refloat
>muh skill expression
there was literally nothing skillful about refloats
who do you main, be honest
if you say ling or lee i'm going to find you and beat your ass
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anna mains b like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIri9YLHpOg
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oh my days bruv
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i didnt start with t7 and i think its the best one in terms of the battle system

content wise it is obviously very poor
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>>521174903
everyone adapted but you, speedkicks
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>>521174937
I don’t like refloats either, I just think they made flippas even freer in T8
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maybe you don't like it, but tekken 7 is still at least tekken. 8 isn't even tekken, it's something else entirely.
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people are playing t5dr online, why is this sad ass general not organizing a paste bin that teaches retards how to install it and play it as well?
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>>521174903
nobody is going to reminisce about heat bro. People aren't sucking off sfv. There were like 5 twitter dudes sucking off sfv for 1 week after sf6 came out and everybody called them retarded. The same thing is going to happen with tekken 8 after 9 releases (assuming 9 is better).
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>>521175108
because rpcs3 makes it a plug and play process
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yeah bro I really hate T7 and T8 bro I just hate these games so much that I keep crawling back and pinching my nuts for the last decade but these games are so bad bro
T7 was FUN
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>>521175108
its still using that old netcode, which is fucking unplayably bad.
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i can't play t5 on emu because ports, i might try my luck with ttt2 and go back to occasionally playing t7
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https://x.com/TommyKairaTK/status/1908187141647003873
https://x.com/Baassamii/status/1909891636609327521
even random twitter niggers know that t7 was a downgrade and cancer, it's only reddit and 4chan that circlejerk their baby's first tekken
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it's a shame DR doesn't have the best t5 stage even after you unlock the classic 5.0 stages. For some reason, it's missing in DR.
https://youtu.be/GN-8gvgAB0E
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t7 with
>t8 sidestep
>no 2d
>low parry no bound
would be fun to watch competitively again
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>>521175290
thanks for letting us know
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>7 was bad!
ah, I see
here's something more your speed
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>>521175119
i've seen people glazing sfv in sfg whenever a new drive rush neutral or throw loop clip comes up
also pros like melard have often called the game random and sucked off the earlier titles
of course in the normie sphere there won't be any mention of that since all the normies in dix came with dix and to them this is all normal
basically the massive influx of new people who don't care about legacy or neutral and don't have the framework to criticize throw loops or drive rush is what bamco was hoping for with tekken 8 and heat
they do also have the million dollar carrot for the pros so they are reluctant to jump ship and it worked, meanwhile in t8 pros are still playing for the same peanuts as in t7
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>>521175260
>because ports
just get the tekken 5 dark ressurection online for ps3, that's the version everyone would play
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Just play TTT2/T6 on Xbox.
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${current_installment} is shit, ${previous_installment} was the peak of the series is nothing new nor Tekken-only it's a well honoured fighting games tradition
That doesn't change how singularly shit Tekken 8 is though. Every new installment brings out the rose tinted glasses as people only remember the good things and not how annoyed they were actually playing it but still Tekken 8 has reached a level of trash only seen in actual franchise-killing entries like MVC Infinite or DBFZ
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>>521174181
played 3 when i was a wee kid in the arcades
didn't play until 5 came out on the ps2
skipped 6 and only played tag2 in the arcades sparsely
played more dedicatedly from 7 onwards
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>>521175259
its pretty playable desu
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>>521175673
i talking about my isp
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>>521175820
tekken 8 has more potential to get rose tinted glasses over time because the offline content is decent and the graphics are genuinely great, in the absence of a competitive scene around it I can see that happening
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Bandai Namco raped and casualized the series with T7 and it was considered a great success.
They do it again with T8 and people hate it. What gives? This is clearly what you all wanted.
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oh great now it's sub 4k
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>>521175820
why did you put dollar symbols there?
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>>521176016
nobody will look at 8 the way people look at 4
and every game looks good nowadays, so that's a nonfactor
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>>521176030
Even for casuals, there's a limit. You can't just keep doubling down over and over.
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>>521176065
games cost money
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>>521174181
I remember playing 5 with my sister. I also remember a gamemode where you played as Jin in a more beat'em up style of game.
Then I played SF4 pretty heavily for a spell and forgot about Tekken until 7. But by the time I got to 7 it was basically end of life and the only people I could play with would stomp me so I never got into it. Then I grabbed SF6 and played it quite a bit and decided to give Tekken another try and got 8, had fun but also not quite enjoying this season.
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1440p ahh player counts
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7 gave us the best guest character to ever grace a fighting game
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>>521176213
nice timbs my nigga
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>>521176213
Shut the fuck up, you sloped midget.
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>>521176213
just played noctis yesterday, pretty fun tbdesu
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56.38%
57k reviews
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>>521176213
Wrong pic
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>>521176415
no life incel reviewbomb doesn't mean anything
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>>521176213
It really fucks over phiddy's "this isn't real tekken bruh..." when you consider the fact he mained fucking noctis in t7
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another gay ass nigga not skippin his intro
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got your shitting pants on?
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>>521176565
noctis is literally a fundies character
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>>521176565
>I want to stay sharp with my tekken skills
>So you play some old tekken?
>No.
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!jun
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my what
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>>521176565
noctis is one of the most honest champions in the game lol
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I like the way Jun says suki ari. It sounds cute
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https://youtu.be/of6zCybjSR8
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>>521176820
maware
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>4k players
Is this "casual" playerbase in the room with us?
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>>521177047
Steam fags too stupid for numbers again.
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>got bored of waiting for 'poch and reinstalled poop1
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another day another no communication from namco
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>bastardize game to get new players
>exact same number of players as before
masterful gambit sir
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I exposed
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>>521147732
it's tacky as shit
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t7 had more players than tag 2 and t6 though?
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>>521177370
don't forget
>new players don't stick around
truly a big brain move
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>>521177047
it's uuuh it's uuuuuh *blocked on twitter*
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New players were real in my mind
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>>521177370
>>521177431
buy high sell low
profit
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should i buy shadow of erdtree, although i don't wanna give my money to scamco anymore
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>>521177371
why has this schizophrenic latched onto the tekken general
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haven't you rolled and slopped enough already
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elden ring will be my final rollslop game
unless they come out with armored core 7
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why is it the 'pros' who keep trying to signal that 'it's just a game' to the players, when it should've been the other way around?
like we care about this series because we want to not because we have to
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niggas quit or take a break, but for mysterious reason spag constantly streaming, what a coincidence sir
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how much money do you think spag is getting paid now that all the other shills left the boat
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they reduced his pay because of his failure to keep them involved
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if they reduced his pay he wouldn't be so adamant about being a bigger shill, it'd be less of an incentive to do so
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>>521176113
>Even for casuals, there's a limit
This is what the devs constantly fail to understand. Not just Bamco, but across thr whole industry there's this assumption that casual = braindead retard. It's such a cancer to video games and has plagued them for the past 15 years. Devs and publishers think that dumbing a game down and limiting ways for players to express themselves will automatically draw more newcomers in, and that casuals won't be willing to learn and get better at the games they play. It's such a stupid philosophy.

I get that sometimes it works, like with Strive. But Tekken and its playerbase is a completely different beast. If HMN used Strive's success as a basis for what they are doing to T8, then they are absolute fucking morons.
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>>521178123
The same wage but they told him to work harder.
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i’m pretty sure spag would suck murray’s cock if he was told to
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even joka might bail out
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>>521178263
i think bamco and the gaming industry is aiming to capture the 'mobile gamer' casual not the casuals who have a console or played games before. the people who actually don't really play games AT all.
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>>521178123
he unironically does it for free
his whole teary eyed desperation back when he got blacklisted for a bit says a lot about his relationship with bamco
he is desperate to work for them and for the game to succeed, being the tekken guy with sunglasses is his whole identity
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>>521178123
a bag of chippies and a soda per stream
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>>521178425
>being the tekken guy with sunglasses is his whole identity
something he copied from harada too i presume?
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>copied his name from rip
>copied his appearance from harada
>copied his make a noises from tasty steve
>copied his lies to the community from murray
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menmenswe doesn't even play ranked once again beating his low rank subs for 8 hours
MASKU
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>Murray and Harada are usually terminally online and always arguing with fans on Twitter
>Radio silence from them for the past week now
Interesting. I wonder what got them to shut the fuck up?
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mailman just has cod players mentality, he wants to stomp newbies with little effort
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>>521179237
obviously got a gag order by the pr dep
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they realized they were in the wrong after trying to act all justified with their words before the patch came out
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mailman's ass is still sore after the games with joka
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>>521179237
And i wonder what will they say after this silence
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>>521179237
Some major shit obviously went down at Bamco HQ. I'd bet good money that HMN got their heads bitten off by the executive bosses behind closed doors and told to fix this mess or publicly commit seppuku.
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>>521179372
>Gets embarrassed in Ranked
>Gets destroyed by any pro player he comes across
>Still convinces retards he's a good player because he bullies a bunch of 17er Fujins in his lobbies
>They actually pay $50 to be """coached""" by him for 15 mins
Maybe Murray is right. Maybe this fanbase deserves to suffer.
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>>521179701
I even recognized one kaz player who he coached was someone i went against in ranked a while back lol
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I honestly think harada has no idea what's going on with the project and they just use him as a mascot.
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>doing my dumb work
>take a small break
>for a split second got a weird feeling of fresh summer breeze, some kind of autumn anticipation
>then thought of new but it's good and successful
>then i heard t5 poolside ost in my head
this is best description i can give, i felt so good, like good kind of post-nut clarity for a mere second, then i snapped back in reality and felt like i was falling from skyscraper on a very rainy day
am i going schizophrenic
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let's be real if hmn get removed, they'll just be replaced by corporate puppets that will run the game like a gacha and unironically kill it for good
at least hmn made some decent games 20 years ago even if it was by accident so there's still small hope with them working on it
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>>521179237
Their retarded interaction with the community must've caught up with the higher ups to do such a 180.
Imagine seeing a wave of complaints, your playerbase dwindle to a half and sales going down all in the span of 3 days, you wonder what the fuck happened, you do a quick research and find that one of your leads passes his time on reddit cross referencing accounts to block them on twitter when they say something negative about the game instead instead of fixing it. There is no way your first instinct isn't to whip this literal manchild into place.
Personally I'd fire them, I don't think they're doing it on purpose, Murray's is genuinely a stupid individual's behaviour, but at the end of the day the only thing you should care about are results.
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>harada
manipulative
>murray
legit dumbfuck
>nakatsu
sneaky/ conniving
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Do you think the constant death threats and harassment has something to do with it? people have a breaking point and Murray is in a position where he can't just let loose on people. Maybe it's time to reflect on yourselves, you're human garbage.
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>>521180440
both the spergs that threat people and Murray for not keeping it professional are retarded
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not saying the retards who do death threats aren't retarded but being the nigga who cross references accounts to preemptively block people is just as bad AND trying to be manipulative towards valid criticism (by trying to make yourself the victim) doesn't make you any better
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i'm not reflection on anything, what is has to do with me
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>>521180440
There would be no need to hate on Murray if Tekken had community managers with some presence on social media. But no these dudes want to be these cool epic game dev stars. Well eat shit now Michael.
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Guys I covered this before...

average TEKKEN 8 brainstorming session:

>Nakatsu invites Murray into his office
>starts asking Murray what he thinks would be cool additions to his characters / the game
>Murray gives a few red rank responses while giggling like a infant
>Nakatsu abstracts all of Murray's ideas into general system/character philosophy changes
>Presents his ideas to Harada
>Harada gives a few socractric questions to Nakatsu to which Nakatsu stubbornly maintains his position
>Harada backs down and says "anooooo.... ok... you the game director now..."
>a few months later
>all of the devs character's have gotten their new changes
>they sit down for mud rank internal playtest
>Murray invariably has a great time because he's just spamming b3 and u4 without using his brain at all
>talks down to anyone who dares voices criticism because he's a rockstar developer
>Nakatsu knows best but doesn't interfer because he thinks appealing to the average player (red-purple rank) is best for the game
>Harada doesn't interfer because he thinks that Nakatsu needs to have his own T4 moment to become a proper successor
>9 months later
>we get this shit patch

100% chance that Nakatsu is praying every single day that people eventually come around to the changes when they start buffer sidewalking everything

...


anyway, now that Nakatsu has had his T4 moment, can expect the game to be pretty good from here on out
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that's a lot of cope
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t8 was just a quick cash grab you all fell for
t9 will be the REAL game
trust the plan
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VF6 soon tekcucks just hang on a little longer
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I guarantee nakatsu is tugging his 4 inch to tgirls right now
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>>521181003
i already played tekken 8
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>tmm joking about ltg and bbc
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Nakatsu, the passionate game director of *Tekken 8*, poured every ounce of his soul into the series—nurturing it like a proud parent, obsessing over each frame, each hitbox, each electrifying Mishima feud. He stayed up through countless nights tuning balance patches, dreaming of a perfect game that would one day thank him for his devotion. But *Tekken*, like a cold and distant star, gave him no warmth in return. Fans raged over nerfs, glitches mocked his efforts, and even the characters he helped bring to life seemed to defy him with janky animations and stubborn bugs. In quiet moments, Nakatsu would stare at the title screen, whispering, *"I love you more than anyone ever will,"* hoping one day *Tekken* might love him back—but knowing deep down, it never would.
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ty's video is good
go watch it murray
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I watch mr beast
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dreamed of men
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there you go guys, I saved the rest of your lives:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYjyDyOWy0
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>jack can't step shit
>so you can't step MAKE SOME NOISE!!! either
if you think about it that's fair
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tricky is so beautiful and smart but ill never have her this life is not fair
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>>521176213
zased
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I really don't get the appeal of Reina.
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>early thread again
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>>521182025
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