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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8194 - Surge ABSOBRED Edition

>TailsTube #11 - A Meeting of the Minds!
https://youtu.be/6bkZBSrgIYo

>Sonic Rumble will be released this Spring
https://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1894678104209043686

>Sonic Racing: Crossworlds Gameplay
https://youtu.be/qf5hxow7Pmc

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>Comics Release Dates:
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #2 - 16 April 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #78 - 07 May 2025
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 21 May 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #79 - 11 June 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 02 July 2025

>General link compilation:
https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4P
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
/sthg/ OC info:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Tomboy thread.
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>>521127127
Amy is not a tomboy, how many times do we have to say this?
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>>521126945
Shouldn't he get her naked first?
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>we
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>>521126945
Very nice and high quality OP anon. Thank you.
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>>521127221
>rouge poop nuggies
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>>521126461

Satamfags > Archiefags
The fact that satamfags hate the games is a good thing.
The fact that satamfags got annoyed that mandates made archie more like the games is a good thing.
Imagine if a franchise like star wars was retroactively tied to Sonic. I would be happy to have people on the star wars side who want nothing to do with the modern Sonic games.
Archiefags call for integration. For calling the characters "mobians" and the planet "mobius" because Archie presented them with a hybrid world of Satam and the adventure era.
I don't mind this kind of thing for fanfiction. Go ahead and mash them together, but let sleeping dogs lie.
And yes. Everyone in Archie was OOC. Every game character. Every satam character. Ian Flynn did not course correct either, he was just less autistic than penders. Archiefags gaslit people into thinking he was good.
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>>521126945
>off-model OP
>not only that, but the foot looks like it's diseased
That is the ugliest drawn foot I've ever seen.
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rougette the hottie
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>>521127912
Cute!
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>>521127281
She IS a tomboy, and is also girly, at the exact same time. In fact, a lot of what you think is just her being girly, is actually a tomboyish trait breaking traditional femininity and thus redefining it.
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Taiream
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I followed Japanese Silverfag on xitter who posts like 10 times a day about Silver and Mephiles exclusively and honestly its one of the highlights of my day.

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>521127912
>aislop
>crackship
low-quality post.
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>>521128230
This is the most retarded argument I've seen Sonic fans engaging it. The bar is underground and yet you still limbo under it
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>>521128230
Nope, she's a genki girl. There's nothing tomboyish about her except that she fights, which every character does, including Cream. Is Cream a tomboy?
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Oh, this is rich! The HUMAN has fallen in love with A HEDGEHOG!
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>>521128568
I don't like how they kept making fun of him being short in that movie. Kinda defeated the purpose of the film.
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>>521128442
No, Cream is not a tomboy. In fact, Cream specifically hates fighting and only does so to protect her loved ones.

Amy does enjoy fighting, and action in general. She'll avoid it out of compassion if necessary, but she wouldn't hesitate to fight on impulse, while Cream treats it more like a reluctant necessity motivated purely for the sake of protecting loved ones and such.

Amy's tomboyishness is contrasted by Cream being ladylike.
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>>521128362
Retarded fucking baiting faggot troon.
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>>521127814
Do not make me yearn for early 2000s beaches again.
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>>521128792
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>>521128731
>Amy does enjoy fighting
Prove it.
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>>521128858
>retconned screenshot
kek
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>>521127258
Not a tomboy
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Most fuckable human character?
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>>521128995
Wade Whipple
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>>521128930
Sonic the Fighters is her joining a fighting tournament, something Sonic Channel even highlights as an example of her becoming more and more tomboyish.

Sonic Adventure makes it clear that Amy craves excitement and action in her life, and wants to partake in Sonic's adventures and battles, and her motivation is to become a strong and capable heroine that can fend for herself and fight her own battles without needing Sonic to save her. Throughout Sonic Heroes, that mindset makes her act very Sonic-like to the point that she almost resembles a Sonic rival. Even saying at one point, that she wants to defeat Eggman before Sonic can.
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>>521128995
I've still never actually sat down and watched this. Idk if I can handle the cringe.
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>>521128731
>Amy's tomboyishness is contrasted by Cream being ladylike.
This is false, the contrast between them is that Amy is immature while Cream is more mature for her age.
Amy still has a young girl's hearth and therefore is energetic and adventurous.
Her hobbies being tarot readings reflects this in the original manual.
Amy is the stereotypical japanese young girl.
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>>521128568
>yeah, and no one fallen for you
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Hi again /sthg/!!!
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I might be a fake archiefag, I don't understand how Sally can be considered a tomboy, she is very girly until the reboot. Even in satam she literally just behaves like everyone's mom. Not a tomboy at all. Reboot Sally I can see being a tomboy.
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>>521129247
What do Fang and Lord Farquaad have in common? They were both eaten alive by a sexy dragon.
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>>521129189
You have to watch it. It's a right of passage for true Sonic autists
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>>521129452
Satam Sally was a tomboy that's why
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You think Surge has a fur pattern more like Rouge or Amy?
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>>521129195
>This is false, the contrast between them is that Amy is immature while Cream is more mature for her age.
No, framing it like that is like saying that Tails is more mature than Sonic. That is inaccurate.

The contrast between Amy and Cream is that Amy is passionate and intensely overwhelming with her carefree energy and enthusiasm, while Cream is polite and courteous due to being raised by the strict discipline of her mother.

Cream minds her manners and is always on her best behavior, the type of girl to be heavily studious and get straight A's. Amy is the type that would be mind-numbingly bored in class, and would want to go out and do something fun, anything that would make her heart beat with excitement.

Amy likes fortune telling, and she also likes the same general stuff that Sonic likes doing, because she's an energetic girl craving action and excitement in her life. That is what makes her tomboyish. She is the kind of girl who does like getting her hands dirty and playing rough. It's why she has a giant magical toy squeaky HAMMER to just smash everything with.
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>>521128792
>unleashed and black knight
headcanon
>origins cake slop
gaijin shit translation. not in the games, not canon.
>xitter vtuber
gaijin shit translation. not in the games, not canon.
>fireworks
OOC
>twinkle park
fucking retard is too autistic to read sonic's face. he's not having fun here brainrotted shipfaggot
>IDW
not canon.
>frontiers
unused OOC flynn garbage. also not canon.
C R A C K S H I P
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Still arguing with the reductionist?
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>>521128995
Maria
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>>521129508
Never finished Origins. Is there something I missed?
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>>521129349
Why are we saying hello again?
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>>521128670
making fun of ugly people BAD... unless theyre mean
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>>521129186
>Sonic the Fighters is her joining a fighting tournament
To save the world from Eggman
>Sonic Adventure makes it clear that Amy craves excitement and action in her life
True
>and wants to partake in Sonic's adventures and battles
False. She, like Sonic, would rather have Eggman not do evil shit so they wouldn't need to risk their neck fighting. She likes action, not fights.
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>>521129554
What makes her a tomboy as opposed to Amy?

The reality is that they're both tomboys for the same reason. Sally is a girl that likes "boyish" activities, fitting for a prominent core character in an action-adventure series where the whole cast is likely to be expected to fight and do cool stuff on a regular basis, and Sally and Amy both exist in a role where being personally motivated to partake in these activities and enjoy it, AND ALSO be a character that defies the conventional feminine portrayals in past media, is a major necessity.

Amy and Sally, even Blaze, all have some degree of being different from someone like Princess Peach.
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>>521129652
The entire dynamic between Cream and Amy in Sonic Heroes was Amy being a lovestruck young girl and Cream being the more mature and perceptive one.
That is the contrast between the characters.
This is once again displayed in Sonic Rush.
What you wrote just shows me that you don't play the games at all, you just read the manuals and character bios and watch cutscenes.
>No, framing it like that is like saying that Tails is more mature than Sonic.
We're not talking about Sonic and Tails. We are talking about Amy and Cream.
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>>521129774
NTA that's just a headcanon for vorefags, last we saw Fang was when he hit the screen and fell into lava
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>CALL ME PRETTY!!
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>>521129774
I think you meant Superstars

>>521129824
Because saying hi feels good!!!
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Orange
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>sonamycucks spamming their crackship
kill yourselves
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This general stinks.
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>>521128995
Brenda
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>>521130032
Did the Chaotix show up in Boom? I didn't see them in the game.
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>>521129763
"Reductionist"!?

>>521129913
>False.
No. Amy specifically DOES want to partake in Sonic's adventures and battles, and especially prove to Sonic that she's a strong and capable heroine that deserves his respect, and can take care of herself.

I am not saying that either Sonic or Amy want Eggman doing bad stuff, but both Sonic and Amy are the types that would readily partake in combat, for either heroic reasons or otherwise, and have fun doing so. Amy is more compassionate and emotionally-driven, so she's even more impulsive and prone to fighting, but also even more likely to avoid a fight out of genuine love and concern for the other party involved.
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>>521129664
>headcanon
It's a common-sense deduction, and they had a date in Black Knight that Sonic missed because of the book, which is canon.
>gaijin shit translation
Translated by a Japanese fan.
>gaijin shit translation
Translated by a Japanese fan. Also, that was an episode of Sonic Station Live.
>OOC
You're coping.
>fucking retard is too autistic to read sonic's face
You don't play the games, Sonic doesn't like amusement parks.
You're mentally ill.
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>>521130210
Vector appears in one episode of the show I think
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>>521130183
I agree with you. Could you post similar images in order to protest?
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>>521130210
Vector did, I believe that's all.
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>>521130210
Vector showed up in the cartoon once
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>>521130183
>Not AnimatedJames
cringe
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>>521129951
>What makes her a tomboy as opposed to Amy?
Sally is the disciplined leader of the group, the one who organizes the freedom fighters and she is also a tech specialist since she created nicole.
These are all masculine traits for the most part.
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>>521129978
I literally OWN Sonic Heroes and played it throughout my childhood. Stop acting like I don't play the games. I DO. And if I can't get my hands on a game myself, I watch cutscenes and playthroughs and over-analyze both it and the gameplay as much as possible.
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>>521129824
yeah, show me them wolf tiddies.
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brap....
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>>521130285
I think you reduce the characters of the series to nothing more than mere variations of Sonic. Which I don't appreciate. But I don't want to argue anymore
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>>521130419
All the shit of his that didn't involve the blatantly underaged girls were awesome, yeah.
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>>521130032
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>>521130459
Sally being disciplined is a "Nega-Sonic" trait. Is Sonic's lack of discipline feminine, in this regard?
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>>521130285
>but both Sonic and Amy are the types that would readily partake in combat, for either heroic reasons or otherwise, and have fun doing so
That has nothing to do with the matter. The fact is that Amy never looks for adventure and conflict if it doesn't come to her first, as that's the case in both SA1 and Heroes. She looks for Sonic, and she likes action, but she doesn't like combat and won't go out of her way for action. You still haven't proven otherwise.
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>>521129063
This is the only correct answer
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>>521130464
Literally the first scene of Team Rose is Cream chastising Amy for daydreaming and being careless, thus establishing the maturity contrast between the two.
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>>521130635
"Nigger-Sonic" trait
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>>521130830
They should make her like this. It sounds quite arousing
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Blaze shaves her cat beard
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>>521130635
No, it's a trait showcasing immaturity and childishness, thus showcasing that Sonic still has a boy's heart.
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Shadow should just admit that Sonic is better already. He's supposed to be the Ultimate Lifeform, handcrafted to be perfect in all ways, but still has to go toe to toe with a random blue rat.
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>>521129575
We’ve already seen her torso in Imposter Syndrome, she had a green torso just like Amy has a pink torso.
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A princess doesn't need to shave
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>>521128442
>genki girl.
That means Tomboy, Tomboy is a catch all term for any woman who actively deviates from the traditional feminine archetype even if she can easily fall back into the role whenever she likes, just because she likes to act as one of the guys sometimes she is still a woman at the end of the day.
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>>521130607
>I think you reduce the characters of the series to nothing more than mere variations of Sonic.
That's just reality. We have a character literally named "Metal Sonic".

The way I talk about the characters in this regard does not undermine their own unique qualities or anything, that is the exact opposite of the case. I call Amy "Girl Sonic", as a term that highlights what defines her in contrast to Sonic. Everything that makes Amy unique spins out of the fact that she's the girl version of Sonic, embodying feminine equivalents to Sonic's own traits.

... I'm an INFJ. My dominant function, "Introverted Intuition" is all about how everything is connected as one big all-encompassing idea. I view everything holistically. I analyze stuff in patterns and webs of connections, with the perspective that it's all interlinked into one big picture. I see everything converging together.

The way I analyze Sonic is with that perspective. I don't focus on branching out to explore infinite possibilities and be different for the sake of being different, or however Ne-type people think, I want to understand how and what everything works on a fundamental level, deeper and deeper down. What is the single, all-encompassing meaning of life universal to absolutely everything and everyone, for example.

That is why I talk about the characters and the series and everything in the way that I do.
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Indian princesses might
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>>521130931
Thanks for ruining the hottest Sonic character for me. Really apriciate it.
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>>521131161
>I analyze stuff in patterns and webs of connections, with the perspective that it's all interlinked into one big picture. I see everything converging together.
Wow, you're racist? :o
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>>521131286
Me watching /sthg/ threads
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i don’t care if i get a few pubes in my mouth-! You’re fine the way you are, BLAZE!
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>>521130948
Shadow straight up calls sonic "the true ulitmate life form" in SA2. Sega just retconned it in future entries, like how they retconned shadow back to life.
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>>521131118
>That means Tomboy
Nope. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenkiGirl
>Tomboy is a catch all term for any woman who actively deviates from the traditional feminine archetype
So 99% of modern women are tomboys, by this definition, since they're not tradwives.
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>>521131161
Look I understand the characters of this series fulfill roles. But Amy isn't "girl Sonic" dude. Amy contrasts Sonic in the sense that she's more empathetic and compassionate and not because she's female and Sonic male. Like how is that even a contrast dude?

And the other two thirds of your post are totally irrelevant
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>>521130942
So what makes Sally's discipline masculine as-opposed-to feminine?

>>521130751
I don't see maturity as the focal point. I've watched and analyzed Amy and Cream's dynamic throughout Heroes, and the way I see it, the point of contrast is Cream being a more polite and disciplined person as-opposed-to Amy being a more energetic and emotionally-driven Sonic.

Amy's "intuition" tells her X, so she leaps face-first into danger without a second thought. Cream questions how Amy even knows for sure this is accurate, and Amy just says "my heart is never wrong" and doesn't elaborate further before she's already set on her goal. Like the girl version of Sonic & Tails.

Tails is the analytical one who'd cautiously observe but Sonic just rushes in without hesitation, confident and cool. Sonic's like "let's get this done FAST", and Tails would be the one saying "But Sonic, wait, what about..." where Sonic wouldn't have even considered it otherwise. That's how Amy and Cream are.

I wouldn't call Sonic & Amy "immature" for being the way they are.
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>>521130918
The guy who posted this had an alt with a human nose but it was just a sketch
I could try and edit it back in
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>>521131467
making her flat is lame, i hate the idea that you need to make all tomboy characters planks
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>>521131467
>tubby
They should make her tubbier
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>>521131718
>not strong enough to wear the boxing gloves
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Captain Whiskers
Princess Whiskers
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>>521131746
she's not a tomboy
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>>521131480
"Ultimate life form" is subjective. You can't measure ultimateness. There's nothing to retcon because it's just a title. Shadow chose to give it to Sonic, then lost his memory and Sonic didn't care
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>my crackship is canon because [HEADCANON]
why are you cucks like this?
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>>521131305
No. ... What? I have no idea how you even drew that conclusion.
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>>521131845
shes literally a girl with a rowdy boyish personality so how is she not
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>>521131746
I like it but I imagine most sonic characters are pretty small anyway
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>>521131118
You don't know what a genki girl is.
You don't know what a tomboy is.
You believe the leftist bullshit that "traditionally feminine" means oppressed woman who cooks, cleans and never talks back and has no interests of her own.
That's not what traditional femininity is.
Opening the dictionary or doing a google search is very easy for you to understand these terms, but since it seems you are unwilling to do any of these things I'll do it for you.

Traditional femininity:Femininity is a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles generally associated with women and girls, and it is conceptually distinct from both the female biological sex and from womanhood, as all humans can exhibit feminine and masculine traits, regardless of sex and gender.
Traits traditionally cited as feminine include gracefulness, gentleness, empathy, humility, and sensitivity, though these traits vary across societies and individuals, and are influenced by a variety of social and cultural factors.

Genki Girl: The Genki Girl is a character – usually a schoolgirl, but not always – possessed of an over-abundance of energy, such that she runs everywhere (often with her arms waving wildly or outstretched like airplane wings), speaks quickly (sometimes unintelligibly so) and/or loudly, and always does everything fast, fast, fast! She's filled with confidence and determination, regardless of whether she's competent or not. Although usually played exclusively for comedy, sometimes the Genki Girl slows down for a serious or introspective moment. But not for long — she lives her life full-throttle.

Tomboy:A tomboy is a girl or young woman with masculine traits. It may include wearing androgynous or unfeminine clothing and engaging in physical sports or other activities and behaviors traditionally associated with boys or men.
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SatAMfags have accepted their show is dead and know the games are nothing like it on any level.

Archiefags still haven't accepted the reality of their comic being cancelled and hopelessly wish that one day Sega will either implant loads of Archie stuff into the games or just dump the "SoJ canon" and turn it into Archie.
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>>521131647
>tvtropes

>So 99% of modern women are tomboys, by this definition, since they're not tradwives.
basically yeah
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>>521131665
>Amy contrasts Sonic in the sense that she's more empathetic and compassionate
THAT IS WHAT "GIRL SONIC" MEANS.

>And the other two thirds of your post are totally irrelevant
I'm explaining exactly what my mindset and personality is. I am a "its all connected" type of guy.
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>>521131958
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>>521131856
I always though it was Shadow's reaction to Sonic's impressive use of the Chaos Emeralds. He was designed in a lab to be a natural master over Chaos and then there's this random fuckin gy that can use the at the same level if not better.
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>>521131856
The fake chaos control thing also makes it pretty clear Sonic mogs Shadow. You can claim shadow didn't know about that trick, but in shadow generations he has to use the real emerald still. Despite having the SA2 fake right there.
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>>521132179
>basically yeah
Ok, I can now leave this discourse with peace of mind knowing that you're officially retarded.
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>>521131789
She's the weakest from the KNUCKLES CLAN, that doesn't make her weak at all.
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Got dat dog in me
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>>521132456
>She's the weakest from the KNUCKLES CLAN
Based on what?
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>>521132376
Shadow establishes he can chaos control without emeralds in Sonic Battle
He tells Emerl that as long as he has Maria in his heart he does not need a chaos emerald.
Shadow gens was just a Flynn retcon to that because he wanted to nerf Shadow.
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>>521132215
Your previous arguments tried to justify Amy as being "Girl Sonic" by saying that she's just as capable as Sonic and just as action focused and has the same desires as Sonic.

Amy as a character portrayed in the Adventure games isn't action focused. That doesn't mean she can't engage in action, since she's playable in SA1. This whole thing started because I disagreed with you that Amy is a "badass"
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Silverbros, did we loose hope early?
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>>521132523
No, Sonic Team just says that Shadow NEEDS a Chaos Emerald to use Chaos Control while simultaneously having Shadow not need an Emerald for Chaos Control in numerous games.
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Sparky does not play the games he only reads the manuals and character bios and then claims to understand these characters.
When confronted with actual scenes from a game he tries to backtrack and weasel his way around it.

Sparky is faker.
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>>521132681
4's credits scene will be Amy giving birth to Silver
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>>521132523
Its more so Segas writing is inconsistent as fuck. The original intent of SA2 was to have Sonic take shadows place, then they brought him back to life and had to throw that idea out the window.
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>>521132627
You're drawing a separation between compassion and action, that simply does not exist for Amy especially in Sonic Adventure. Her whole story in that game is about defying the belief that she's just a helpless girl that needs Sonic to save her, she wants to prove that she is strong and capable of fighting her own battles. That is what her entire story in that game is about.
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Sonamy is TO canon!!
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>>521132523
>He tells Emerl that as long as he has Maria in his heart he does not need a chaos emerald.
Sounds like bullshit writing
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>>521132681
What the hell are they even talking about?
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>>521132681
>The entire theory in the article hinges on the Maddie clothing theory
>Maddie was wearing purple and white in the hospital
>Fans interpret this as Silver and Blaze
>However in reality:
ENTER
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>>521132901
It will be when Movie 4 has her rape Sonic on-screen before giving birth to Silver
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>>521126924
I don't want her to be smaller
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Sally's proclivity for kissing makes her strictly not a tomboy
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>>521133131
Amy kisses
Sally toungefucks
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>>521132901
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>>521132901
Will never be canon
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>>521132861
>I say that Amy is compassionate and empathetic and tries to help people with love and conversation
>I also say this doesn't stop Amy from being strong physically or engaging in combat/action, using SA1 as an example
>"You're drawing a separation between compassion and action"

I don't know what to say to you anymore

>>521132997
Big has no baggage. I could see him being added as a meme character
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You know what word describes Amy better than "tomboy" or "genki"?
>bestie
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>>521132025
>Tomboy:A tomboy is a girl or young woman with masculine traits. It may include wearing androgynous or unfeminine clothing and engaging in physical sports or other activities and behaviors traditionally associated with boys or men.
>engaging in physical sports or other activities and behaviors traditionally associated with boys or men.
ah so Amy is a tomboy then, good to see we got that sorted.
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>>521132901
Why do fanartists keep doing that
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>>521133402
Got watch your wife have sex, Ian.
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>>521132776
>Sparky does not play the games
Yes I do.

Off the top of my head, I've played Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 & Knuckles, whatever other stuff was on Mega Collection Plus, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2 (at a friend's house), Sonic Heroes, some of the Advance games and Battle, Sonic '06, Sonic Rivals, Sonic Unleashed, some of Black Knight, Sonic Generations, Sonic Mania, Sonic Forces, and Sonic Frontiers.

Beyond that, I've "watched" every game through playthroughs and stuff, or just obsessively rewatching cool gameplay videos, especially if I don't have access to the games myself.

I'll admit I tend to watch more than I play, mostly because I often feel like I don't have time to play games 'cause I'm always working on my project, as if spending hours and hours and hours watching long playthrough videos of all sorts of games is any different.

I own Undertale and have beaten the game, but I've watched countless playthroughs of it in the past, especially 'cause I like seeing other players' reactions and stuff.

But regardless, of any of this, I have scene all of the cutscenes throughout all of these games in this franchise. More than once. I do in fact know what I am talking about. I have specifically cited and thoroughly analyzed Amy's cutscene appearances in Sonic Adventure and Sonic Heroes and other stuff before, in the past, to analyze exactly what her story is about and how she was specifically written and portrayed.

I don't just go off of what's written in profiles. I cross-reference that with everything the game actually shows.
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>>521133414
So now we like her terrible characterization in Sonic battle just because it proves your point?
glad we established you people are hypocrites.
I will now be using Ian Flynn's characterization of Amy exclusively to prove my points instead of arguing in good faith.
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>>521133672
Posts like this make it seem like you haven't been arguing in good faith from the start.
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ian will never be japanese
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Boom Amy and Archie Sally are tomboys.
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Amy probably licks her fingers which is tomboy behavior.
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>>521133672
Battle is canon regardless, and there are many good things about Amy in Battle even if in many other areas she is heavily flanderized.

But the key word is FLANDERIZED. Taking one or a few specific traits and blowing them out of proportion while ignoring or overshadowing others. Amy in Battle is displaying traits inherent to her character already, it's just imbalanced badly.
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>>521133760
>Crying out in pain as you strike me
ok jew, fuck off.
You lost the argument now you resort to gaslighting and arguing in bad faith.
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>>521133445
sallification
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>>521133812
Damn that thing is fucking sweeeet lookin
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>>521133849
Fat tummy detected
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>>521133849
>when she gets erect too
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Flynnbros... is there a single character in this franchise that we get RIGHT?
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>>521133902
>You lost the argument
Not even that anon, just pointing out that Amy has been sporty in far more than just Battle, and that your post was spergy.
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So much on topic discussion today. Good to see
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>>521133672
>engaging in physical sports or other activities and behaviors traditionally associated with boys or men.
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>>521134183
I was going to say their own IDW OCs but I can't even
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>>521133849
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>>521132523
>Shadow establishes he can chaos control without emeralds in Sonic Battle
...
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>>521134384
>afro
Disgusting.
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Today I have learned that people who characterize Amy do not understand her character and/or what a tomboy/genki girl/ traditionally feminine women are.
I also learned that Sparky does not play the games and only reads character bios and manuals while also watching cutscenes.
Sparky is a fake fan
Krack does not understand what a tomboy is or what a genki girl is supposed to be in japanese culture
As much as I hated Duofag for spamming his shitty furfag gens, you have proven just have retarded the both of you are and that Duofag was right about you
Now I shall be going to sleep since it's late.
Goodnight all
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>they could've made Ariem a rayman reject
>instead they gave her fattest thighs
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>>521134183
The Zeti
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>>521133942
thanks, friend! it was a great warmup
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>>521134384
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>>521134615
Today I've learned that Sonic characters are too nuanced for you to comprehend.
Goodnight.
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>>521134624
Pretty sure her model does at least have legs.
It's 3d so you should be able to find an upskirt.
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>>521133402
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
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>>521134812
>samefagging
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>differentfagging
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>>521134812
>until another piece of Sonic media once again contradicts what Ian says
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>fagfagging
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>>521134615
>I also learned that Sparky does not play the games
I DO play the games. As I have said, numerous times, I don't just read character bios and manuals. I pay close attention to what they say, but I also pay close attention to what the games themselves show. I only understand the profiles as well I do because I've seen what they say in-action.

Amy's character on-screen in Adventure and Heroes and stuff perfectly showcases her character profile. That helps me understand what those words are even saying.

Every time I explain anything here, I often go back and review the actual material to refresh my memory on the finer details, so I know precisely what I am talking about.
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>>521132289
Always loved how done with everything Maggie looks here.
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>>521134615
What did krack say?
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>>521135209
Total Saleta Supremacy
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Reminder that according to Ian, Vanilla doesn’t reciprocate Vector’s feelings for her and finds him humorous at best.
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>>521135354
Isn't that how it was portrayed in X though
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>>521135354
>Repeats whatever he's told
>Does the opposite because he doesn't like what he's been told
That's definitely Ian.
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>>521135882
teef are based
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I learned today that Quaverchad mogs every drawfag and that he's based.
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Welcome to /sthg/ where your darkest Sonic desires may come true.
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>>521135209
powerscalers explained to me that she is immune to psychic abilities. silver would need to beat her by ramming into her or something. I think thats really hot.
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>>521135962
>he
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>>521135310
that she loved me
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This general has been so fucking retarded lately.
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>>521136262
Shut up Sparky
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Oh boy. Time for namefag hours again.
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>>521136262
>lately
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>>521136262
i WISH i was fucking retards
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You know, its for the best that Sticks never made it into IDW. They'd just ruin her like they've done to the IDW OCs by making all her paranoia poorly thought out trump criticism instead of having her be the legit Dale Gribble of Sonic.
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>>521127221
>>521127560
Me when Rouge poop(it tastes like chocolate)
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>>521136048
One of her powers is that she can turn into light, which means that Silver can't grab her with his psychokinesis as long as she's in fighting condition. Silver's ESP barriers have still been shown to block lasers however, so he'd basically be forced to go on the defense instead of his usual ruthless offense, which I think is pretty cool.
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>>521136289
You know darn well that wasn't me.
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Now we're posting gifs to be nasty
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>retarded lately
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>>521130183
Why are you guys into poop and farts when you can drink her piss?
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>>521136534
One thing I think people here don't point out much is that if Sticks appeared, she would be put in dramatic situations here character wasn't actually designed for until it redefined her character for later fans. Just like Sally before her.
IDW is going on 8 years of content now. Twice as long as Boom's run.
When people in these threads complain that Archie made Sally OOC, they're screaming into the void. It's too late. Archie Sally is Sally as far as discourse goes.

Imagine a world where that became of Sticks. Where she's an IDW character with drama. Imagine the people saying "At least IDW gave sticks an actual character with depth!"
Dreadful.
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>china will block import of US films

We're gonna beat Disney next time brehs
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>>521136896
I hate that you're right, and I hate IDW
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>>521136896
Issue where Sticks gets a Serious Talking To about the Threat of Disinformation Online and the Extremist Pipeline
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i will probably buy the game just for him because i love this bitch
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>>521137698
Me but with Wave (and probably 1 ancient Sega IP that gets a crossworld track)
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>>521137698
Wave...
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i HATE birds >:(
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>>521137698
I feel like Jet coming back is more significant than people realize. When was the last time he was even playable or even in a game?
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>>521136896
Yeah, you're right.
>Archie Sally
Well, there's "Sally Levels" now so we don't have to discuss about how OOC Sally was in Archie. Sticks is a different matter given she had a Sonic Channel characterization to go on but I imagine the rhetoric would go as you've described.

My takeaway is IDW should fix its own OCs before trying to import any of the extended universe cast.
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>>521138026
Speed Simulator lol
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>>521138159
Whoever made the sally levels image did the rest of us a favor.
Making a Sonic levels chart would be difficult though.
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>Boy am I in trouble.
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lookin at whisper
gettin good heart feelins
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shout out to sonic for making me realize i have a racesuit fetish
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>>521138507
Cutie <3
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>hand over the party size rice crispy platter
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Whisper eats "share size" snacks by herself.
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did the shit-stirrers go to bed?
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>>521139071
Like you don't?
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>>521139180
I'll just say it causes problems in our household.
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>>521139071
I don't share, either
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How's your fangame
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>>521138437
>Sonic levels
It's not that it doesn't work or is too difficult, the thing is its unnecessary. Nobody claims SatAM Sonic is OOC or denies that Fleetway Sonic is indeed Sonic. And despite all the Santiago jokes, Classic Sonic is still Sonic, just cuter. We don't have IDWfags claiming IDW Sonics totes the REAL SONIC or Moviefags calling their shit canon Sonic. There is self-awareness, enough to understand that yah Adventures was just a tie-in cartoon, don't think about it too much.

Sally on the otherhand has no such general agreement. One that was made worse thanks to Lanny being positioned as "IDW Sally". That diapershit autism needed to be corralled.
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>>521139531
You sound too smart for sthg. Leave.
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>smores detected
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>>521128230
>>521133414
>amy hits people with a hammer
>girls don't do that, therefore she's a tomboy
She's a literal walking pink aisle whose design document was "Obsessed with a boy" before being rewritten as Third Wheel.
She cannot have boyish behaviour in current year anyway. Gender doesn't exist anymore and girls can do boy things too, and better than boys. If you're wondering, that's why you're finding official and fan art of her doing things boys do, not because it's her character to get her dress dirty.
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>>521139363
Me neither. I stuff exponentiall more candy into my mouth each time.
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>>521140189
This is gonna be going on for a while, isn't it
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>>521140321
Yes.
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>>521140254
Have you, perchance, eaten an entire sleeve of oreos and thrown them up onto your mom's bed?
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sally is literally in love with women but has sex with men
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>>521140189
Oh and to add, just look at IDW.
All but two of the girls are actually boys.
To say Amy is a tomboy when stood next to all of the "girls" makes her out to just be a girly girl by the shifting of the Overton gender window.

And then it gets worse when you look at the boy characters like Starline who is so girly people think he's a girl, not queer, not gay, but a girl, until someone calls him a him.
I can only think of two excepts for girls in IDW. Belle is a tomboy who acts like a girl, dresses like a girl, but does woodworking. Jewel is just a girl but also is basically not a character, I forgot she existed until she showed up again.
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>>521140613
So she's a broken lesbian.
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>>521140874
sally's pussy is like the wind, she does whatever feels good
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>>521140994
I do this to my 'nic
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Does anyone have the image of Elias where he says something along the lines of “Husband? I’ll have you know I’m married to a beautiful wife?”
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>>521141457
that's clearly a catfish
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https://files.catbox.moe/7jhgtv.mp4
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>>521139414
Imported a test level and a cube. Need to adjust asset scaling during import. Character can move and jump. Ring collection upon collision works. Still a long way to go
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picture of whisper that i dont think ive seen here before
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>>521141974
is it weird I think Bark looks cooler without his hat on?
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whipser (no maks)
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>>521142458
truly, my love for her has no maks :)
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>>521142673
Polyamory is wrong.
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Sonic is free, like the wind
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>>521142723
It's aight.
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Whisper looks fucking retarded.
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Tangle and Whisper were created by Ian Flynn, but they are Sega characters with Sonic Team supervision. They are not lesbians. That is a headcanon created by people who do not own them.
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>>521142912
You're thinking of Tangle.
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>>521142912
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>>521140938
>wind
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>>521143116
Thanks to Quavershit, I hate this stupid fucking OC
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>>521143064
Tangle looks like a tomboy. Whisper looks like a retard. They're both retarded though.
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Today we learned that our supposedly autistic lorefags don't know shit about Sonic.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>521143351
We've known that for years.
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>>521143116
Thanks to Quaverchad, I love this cool fucking OC
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>>521143351
There are six legendary namefags who seemingly knows everything about Sonic.
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hey hey
you you
i don't like your girlfriend
no way no way
i think you need a new one
hey hey
you you
i could be your girlfriend
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>>521143434
All of Eggman's robots, but especially Gamma and the E-Series.
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Wjisper
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>>521143925
Fucking windfags
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>>521143925
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While you weren't looking, Whisper got fatter again
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>>521144587
and also while you were looking
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Life is like a Pineapple patch :D
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I hate Honey
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>>521144893
woah, deep...
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life is like a pineapple
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>>521145194
A Sponge lives in it?
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Why didn’t Knuckles wear his adorable little hat in Sonic 3?
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>>521145338
>Knuckles
>little hat
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>>521145338
They're scared of his true power
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I have a deep lore question for you all.

That will be next to impossible to answer


Why does Amy have classic Sonic sound effects in SA2 and Sonic Heroes?
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>>521145704
Because she’s a cutie
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Look Tomar, that's you
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Normally I don't like Stonebotnik, but I'll be damned if I don't melt when I see them drawn like a family
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>>521146270
We should lynch all gays using their intestinal tract as the rope.
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>>521146365
Evil hag
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>>521146270
I normally enjoy the whole evil villain that's actually a really good parent trope, but it just doesn't work with Eggman after everything we've seen in the games.
It's honestly on the same level as art and fanfiction that makes Sonic treat Tails like shit imo.
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>>521146469
Good thing these two aren't gay then.
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>>521146365
uuuuu tangle I've been turned into a stuffed toy this is queer monetization uuuuuuuu
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>>521128230
I know everybody is disagreeing but hasnt Amy literally been called a tomboy in official material before. Although i think it was early stuff
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He's so pure...
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>>521146812
Okay poor image choice, fair enough
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>>521146576

>It's honestly on the same level as art and fanfiction
I mean, yeah. Because it is? Unless you're taking about the movies but even then that's presented as more of a Smithers/Mr. Burns type relationship.
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>>521146469
This is so comically homophobic that I can't think that you are anything but the gayest of gay.
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Who has any requests for the sthg bot?
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Cutieee.... :3
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>>521147765
sthg reacts to Sparky and Krack being exposed as frauds
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>>521146953
ok just realized i replied to a 3 hour old post my bad
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>>521147765
/sthg/ reacting to Tails being the second most popular character alongside Sonic
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>>521147891
https://poe.com/s/uK4LRVxftzMs3byC5BM6
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>>521148002
that's a sonic team poll
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>>521147765
/sthg/ reacts to sparky being hired at Sega to work on sonic
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>>521147765
sthg reacts to the story of a new game where Amy dies and Sonic becomes Dark Sonic
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>>521148002
https://poe.com/s/nvYrrbDWSVfCsopefjzh
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You can do more than sthg reacting. You can also do alternate versions of sthg
>>521148170
https://poe.com/s/lCAxCXymznylD8jG2YCf

>>521148180
https://poe.com/s/yvhn93rGidWb3K4Bq8eC
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>>521147765
sthg reacts to wade showing up in IDW
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>>521148442
https://poe.com/s/fMbhfjRz6sBpHMZLgs2X
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>>521148217
Great!!! He should get his own game!!!!
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>>521147765
Sthg reacts to Sally Acorn showing up in IDW and sexually harassing Shadow
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>>521133672
Her characterization in Sonic Battle was excellent. It was distinctive, memorable, and served the needs of the game it was in.
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Anybody else love Sage?
Not in that way, you creeps
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>>521148527
oh my god it joked about lanovok
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>>521148726
Ye-

>spoiler
No
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https://poe.com/s/I5fxd3IZ20t8QrdLJEEl
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>>521148726
I wonder what her character will be like. I honestly imagine her forcing Eggman to be like his X incarnation. More goofy and with moral boundaries.
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>>521148704
It sucked and made more people hate her

>>521148726
I want to like her but her story is botched in Frontiers. I like her design though, she's cute. And I think she's a nice addition to the cast
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>>521146270
If you want to ship Robotnik with the indian man at least be brave enough to use the movie version. Draw your gay smut specifically of comedic actor Jim Carrey
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>>521148527
>Wade x Belle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XzJa3KcNng
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>>521148692
>>521148837
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>>521148726
She really shouldn't be a recurring character.
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>>521148941
Those same people also hated Heroes and 06 Amy, so I don't really think their opinions matter at all.
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/sthg/ written by Shakespeare.
https://poe.com/s/WDkcUDyNfWvxh5oTjHAG
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Why does /sthg/ house so many rapists and pedophiles?
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>>521149112
Heroes was because of the crappy English dub. But 06 Amy kinda sucked as well
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>>521148726
>>521148903
It's weird that she only sort of exists for now because her role in Frontiers was so weird. As long as they let her be a bit of a goofy minion and don't lean too hard on the Eggdad shit she could be nice. Let her and the retardbots be in charge for some boss battles.
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>>521148903
They have an interesting dynamic at the least.

>>521148941
Same. Really wish thst game as a whole was better developed, but the story especially could've used another couple drafts. It's kinda wierd because that game feels like it should be her only story but at the same time everything the game does with her seems to be setting her up to be a new character. I'm glad she'll be in CrissWorlds, though. She's quickly become one of my favorite characters!
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>>521149278
You have rather bad opinions.
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>>521149271
>Goes on 4Chan
>Wonders why there are pedos and rapists
kek
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>>521149320
I am fine with her keeping Eggman goofy.
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>>521149460
/sthg/ but all the posters are clearly female

https://poe.com/s/0ZxJu0mnnGJUwCyJkyRz
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>>521149314
>As long as they let her be a bit of a goofy minion
The best path forward for Sage is for her to be the cold and calculating voice of reason to contrast her nutjob of a father.
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>>521149349
I don't think so c:

>>521149320
True I like her personality. I just wish her backstory was better developed.

Also funny how to this day people draw her with red glitches because she'll be blue for now on
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>>521148958
I didn't draw the art, dipwad
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>>521149487
Core 4
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/sthg/ with EXAGGERATED MASCULINITY
https://poe.com/s/MW4qjOo6yYpDTqAwjrtK
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>>521149487
Percival my beloved.
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>>521149606
Goofy in role more than personality. If she's the straight man to all the goofballs around her, that's fine. I just don't want the tone of Frontiers to stick to her.
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Dear /sthg/ what do you think SEGA's plans are for her? You don't normally introduce a new major supporting game character via tertiary media (although technically it could be argued she debuted in SXSG).
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>521149468
Honestly having Eggman be a goofy wierdo and her be serious one would work well. Sort of that anime trope of the trio with the smart leader and then twedle-dee and twedle-dumb.

>>521149631
>she'll be blue for now on
Kinda miffed about that because the red looks so much better. There's a reason people still draw her like that. The blue makes sense from a story perspective but it throws the color balance of the main cast's design as a group to hell.
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>>521150338
Who cares
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>>521149487
I RIKE IT. But for model/art schizos reading this post explain when is side-mouth alright and when is it supposed to be not?
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>>521150180
>Goofy in role more than personality. If she's the straight man to all the goofballs around her, that's fine.
Exactly.
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>>521150338
She'll probably be important to the story of whatever the next game is Hell, maybe even CrossWorlds, but I doubt it

I know people are mixes on this, but I really hope she's some kind of relative of Eggman. That'd give her an interesting dynamic with the main cast. Either way I'm still pretty excited for her mainly because she looks and talks pretty
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>>521150663
Sonic doesn't have side mouth or middle mouth, he just has a mouth, BUT because of his toon inspirations his mouth can move from side to side to exaggerate certain expressions. "Side-mouth" is just an exaggerated and stylized smirk, which is why it looks weird when it's just his permanent expression.
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>>521150728
So like Coconuts? What do you mean by "in role"?
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>>521150338
DEI character to dump lore in the next mainline open-zone game.
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>>521149460
I dunno I just feel like they shouldn't exist
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silverrapefag did nothing wrong, he should make more rape drawings of silver raping
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>>521151112
Having a single serious person that's effectively forced to interact with a bunch of silly dunderheads leads to understandably silly moments.
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>>521151238
He should make rape smut of sthg's ocs.
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You know what Silver needs? More straight male fans
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>>521150338
Her hair is honestly too tryhard and in a bad way.
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>>521151292
So exactly like Coconuts (but more involved)
I get it, and wholeheartly agree
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>>521135705
>Does the opposite
When did he do the opposite with Vanilla?
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>>521151514
I'm bi and want to fuck Silver but I like his character for separate reasons
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>>521150338
I don't want a new archaeologist character when Knuckles and Rouge haven't been allowed to be treasure hunters for so long
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>>521151198
True, but Indont really know what you expected coming on here
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>>521151525
>Her hair is honestly too tryhard
What does this even mean?
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IDW featuring Knuckles and Shadow less than the OCs, Silver, and Blaze is baffling. I feel like the writers are afraid of the mandates and aren't interested in making big stories.
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>>521149271
Idk why but the tailsfags bother me less than the creamfags. I guess because tails has more character than "child" so it feels less blatant
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>>521151883
A treasure-hunter's very diffrent from an archeologist/historian (then again, Rouge did dig up the dirt on Shadow in SA2)

Besides I imagine she'll fulfill a story role Knuckles or Rouge can't. Like, you couldn't replace Prof. Pickle with Rouge.
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>>521152148
Evan doesn't really do big stories.
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>>521148903
I think she'll be a good loyal/competent minion, unlike Orbot/Cubot, that also isn't just a ruthless bloodknight like Metal (and being allowed to talk). She'll be a much needed bridge character, especially as the straightman to the former. Also I foresee her being the unpunished whenever something bad happens to Eggman et al.
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>>521152232
The book's staff is mainly made on fans writing for fans, so they probably want more excitement characters. They probably also see some kind of respect to series legacy when they use characters like Silver/Blaze. Thst bring said, there's more to paying respect to a series' legacy than referencing the more obscure games.
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Sonic X featuring Knuckles and Shadow less than the OCs, Cream, and Cheese is baffling. I feel like the writers are afraid of the mandates and aren't interested in making big stories.
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>>521152390
I love that.
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>>521151956
You know how people used to joke about crazy overdesigned deviantart Sonic recolor OCs? Her having silly hair looks like her creators were desperate for her to look super unique instead of just letting her actual character carry her.
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>>521152653
This is actually true though. Sonic's barely even in Sonic X. That really ruined the show for me.
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>>521152705
Ehh we've had try-harder human(ish) girl hairdos.
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>>521152840
Same for IDW.
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>>521152840
someone will pull up the screentime chart without acknowledging that sonic's screentime is almost entirely comprised of fight scenes and he is barely in the actual narrative of sonic x from start to finish
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Sonic is ugly and doesn't compare to the sexiness that is real men! <3
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>>521153217
That is an actual sorcerer and a genie. Merlina's hair is honestly less in your face than Tori's as well.
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>>521151575
>Coconuts & Sage scheming together to please Robotnik/Eggman only to be self-sabotaged by Scratch/Grounder & Cubot/Orbot before Sonic even makes an appearance
I NEED IT.
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Sex with the human girls.
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>>521153268
True. I haven't read deep enough into IDW to see that yet, though. At the very least IDW has an actually interesting world and characters.

All Sonic X has is a 4th grader, a potentially racist butler, and a maid that's voiced by a man [and who I want to jack off to but can't find porn of] that live in what is basically Florida in the boring, real-world.
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>>521152840
>>521153465
You guys do realize this is why Sonic slice of life doesn't really work as well as most people think right? Realistically you're always going to end up with Sonic just taking naps and running around sightseeing since all the cool action stuff requires some kind of threat forcing him to act.
This is why the games always revolve around some new villain or worldending threat so that there's actually a reason for the characters to get together and do something crazy cool together.
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>>521153857
Can't do that, too boring. Bat sex is much better
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>>521153963
>At the very least IDW has an actually interesting world and characters.
You aren't wrong about X, but IDW makes sure to make the world as empty as possible and their OCs as inconsistently written as they can.
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>>521154187
Still more interesting than X.
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>>521154102
>Milf rabbit sex is much better
ftfy
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>>521154307
Incredibly low bar.
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>>521154307
Not when you get into Belle Saga
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>>521154730
OMG I NEED them
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Sonic is in a bad spot. There's no where to go but downward because Sega only allows Sonic stories to go in a loop. It's why we have been stuck with the same garbage for decades Sonic Prime is an example of this. So is the movies with all their power are stuck repeating the same stupid stories from the games.
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Shadow is also useless for slice of life. He does not exist in downtime
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>>521155131
I've seen this same post dozens of times
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>>521155406
Not only that, but despite Knuckles, Silver, and Blaze all being far more sociable than Shadow, they're still not in a position that would reasonably have them just hanging out for the hell of it, and would only show up when the world is in danger and they need to help.
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>>521155131
I guarantee Sonic 4 is going to have more in common with The Terminator than it will with any Sonic story
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z__HXBG3kwY
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Dead general
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>>521151903
I wanna squeeze his cheeks
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Why do people act so shocked by this scene in GOTF?

It is the most violent the comic ever gets.

These people would have nightmares if they read Punisher or Invincible.
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What a day huh
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>>521156570
what happened
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>>521156694
Nothing. I was just bored
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>>521156443
>Why do people act so shocked by this scene in GOTF?
It's just that one meme of the rollercoaster from Spongebob.

That being said, this whole scene really embodies the issue with how Evan approaches Sonic. There isn't any climatic fight, cool action, or proper demonstration of Silver's iron will. All he does is toss some rocks to make it look like a fight on the surface, when its actually just her making an excuse to railroad the story into more melodrama.
Actual Sonic content has cooler, more meaningful, and more serious scenes than this, while also not being allowed to show something as "gruesome" as Silver getting his hands holepunchered.
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>>521156568
kissable
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Post more Crails
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>>521156568
I need it inside my pussy
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>>521157525
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>>521157580
Your neovagina you mean?
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>>521153963
>True.
>I haven't read deep enough into IDW to see that yet, though.
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>>521155419
And we seen Sega do the same thing with Sonic a dozen times.
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Quaver sweeps the floor with every drawfag in this shithole.
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>>521159525
sweet little cutie
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>>521158217
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>mario and Kirby have digging power ups in their latest games
>dk’s main gimmick in his new game is diggging
>two of the most popular indie characters ever dig stuff, those being Steve and shovel knight
>knuckles has not been able to dig in a mainline game in over 10 years
Makes you think
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>>521160363
Sega's still not ready. Gonna need another 10 years. And it'll be more treasure hunting
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>>521156737
fuckhead
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>>521160363
I already forget whether he can cyloop in Frontiers but in the sequel he should dig instead
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SA3 is coming out in 30 seconds. Screenshot this.
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I lost my virginity today
And now i want a refund
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sa3 tomorrow
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>>521160956
Vector...
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>>521160956
How did it happen
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>>521158887
Would alcohol actually have ANY effect on the Ultimate Lifeform?
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>>521161191
-30% cooler as opposed to cigarettes
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Shadow couldn’t even survive a wine cooler
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i shadally today
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>>521161487
I did too anon
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>>521161487
why would you do that
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>>521161604
what does this even mean desu if something impure then I salamyd 6 times today
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my favorite ship is salami
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>>521146365
>>521146939
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>Aight, I'll just kill my damn self already. Dumbass STDs can't do shit with gramp's care,
>Yeah, I said STDs, what did you dumb ass think it was? Cancer?
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>>521160363
Sonic is a kiddie front for Sega and the Yakuza who run them. He's not seen as an actual valuable IP. It's all PR bullshit.
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Sibling-coded
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>>521162343
>10 billion yen explodes from the top of the segasammy building on it's last day of operation
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fryin and buyin
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super sally
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Tag ‘em and Bag em boys
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>>521163716
>GUN soldier thirty seconds from killing an innocent girl:
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come and mop up boys, i'm done here
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mobius unleashed only has one comic about any of the idw girls
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>>521163716
>>521163968
>>521163991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKjxqsYhQAQ
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Looking at other characters who are meant to be pairs really puts into perspective what an abject failure of character design Silver and Blaze are as a duo. Pic related, these two are Tetris characters from Puyo Puyo Tetris. Even if you know jackshit about these two characters its immediately obvious what their deal is from their designs alone.
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>>521164279
Characters don't have to be tweedledee and tweedledum to be a duo, that's stupid
But it's true Silver and Blaze aren't really a good duo
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>should I start with the good news or bad-
>bad
>well we discovered that all things considered, we humans are truly unnoteworthy compared to everything that threatens us, and our fate hangs on the whim of a hedgehog of all creatures -
>And the good news?
>... I got the roller skates you asked for....
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touchu
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>>521164562
SOA intern lurkers take notes
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>>521164428
Silver and Blaze are supposed to be tweedldee and tweedledum though.

You don't have to go that far. Sonic and Shadow and even Shadow and Silver have plenty of design elements in common and they're worked into the past/ present/ future theme and the dark/ neutral/ light theme.
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Do we really need Blaze?

Obviously we could do without Silver, but I don't really see the merit in keeping Blaze around at this point
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Shadria!
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>>521165550
dogfucking coded
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>>521165550
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trip im so fucking sorry
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>>521165689
No you're not.
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<3
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>>521165416
It's a video game franchise. You don't need any characters to have functioning gameplay, so we don't even need Sonic considering that there's several momentum based platformer games where you play as a literal marble and they work just fine.
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>>521165790
Was Shadria even a thing before Shadow Generations?
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Who’s leg do I need to fuck until you believe me…
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>>521165198
Also I think it's worth noting that even though the hedgehog trio only existed once people want to see more of it soley based on the design coherence alone. It really is gold. Even by the standards of the franchise Silver and Blaze isn't up to par. I mean shit, Silver and Gold mog most of the cast too.

>>521165416
Admittedly no, not really. She only works when she's a deuteragonist to Sonic when both the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds are involved, and that's just not going to happen in big 2025. She has enough overlap with Silver that you could just drop her and you wouldn't really miss anything.
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>>521165973
whisper...
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hey, who's leg do you gotta hump to get a dry martini around here?
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>>521165998
We don't talk about Gold anymore.
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>>521165916
Not as prominent but yes.
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>>521165998
what is gold the tenrec's lore?
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>>521166076
Seth famously said this during 9/11
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>>521166159
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>>521166251
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>>521166198
Read Silver Age, it's short.

https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-universe-reboot/sonic-universe-79/

>>521166134
Damn shame.
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Peter Griffen vs Eggman
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>>521165916
Absolutely, these pictures are from 2022. It was more or less contained to the Japanese/Asian side though, it catching on amongst Westerners is a more recent thing. Especially since most of the "hints" are in Japanese, and there's a notable inability to "read between the lines" in the America. The Japanese show love more through actions than words.
It's a ship with a heavy language and culture barrier, more or less. Although that's not to say people in America didn't ship it prior, they did, especially in the days before mainstream social media where you'd get canceled for it. They'd just turn Maria into a hedgehog so that they'd get less shit for it.
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>>521166198
She's a lesbian tenrec version of Silver.
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I don't... I don't have that dog in me...
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typical rouge, always talking about fucking canines
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YOOO
https://x.com/KazuyukiHoshino/status/1910198028948123763
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>>521167132
Would you like to?
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>>521167260
hellokitty for little boys...
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>>521167260
lmao
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>>521167484
yes and?
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>>521168524
So true!
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>>521168524
>>521167607
I don't give a shit about what Naka says I want cute merch fuck you
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>>521168660
How do you out yourself as a mobilefag with this little self-awareness?
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Sonic is NOT cute…
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>>521168802
Nice hellokitty Sonicbabs
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>>521168732
you sound so cute i want to fuck you
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>>521168910
Okay but shadow IS cute…
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>>521168739
Probably a newfag
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>>521168974
and the coolest!
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The coolest
He says as I pat his head and caress his chest
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>>521168739
I'm in my bed now, you're so mean
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>>521169041
4 years
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MIIIIIINAAAAAAAA
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>>521169526
WHY DOES MINA HAVE TWO EYEBALLS
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>>521169564
I mean… you have two eyeballs as well…
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>>521169618
NO I DON'T
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>>521169564
Its fucked up, i'm never forgiving yardley for it but its a nice piece aside from that
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>>521169564
All mono-eyed Sonic characters have two eyeballs. I mean, except for maybe some robots or whatever.
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>>521169812
They should've never changed his eyelids to blue.
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>>521169618
Not when I'm done with him.
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goodnight
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>>521169880
Imagine Shadow with tan eyelids though...or Silver.
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>>521126945
>>521127221
>>521127258
Nice thread sonic babs
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>>521169943
shadow wouldn't look so bad, i've seen classicdow fanart with tan eyelids and it kinda works
silver looks bad no matter the color of his eyelids
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>>521169905
Cute Mina
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Humans and their silly two eyes
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>>521170041
Nta, but Shadow and Silver look really bad with tan eyelids because of their eye markings.
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>>521169905
mmmmmm pawblobs
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nice babs sonic threads
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>>521169905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voA7ruOcAZc
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>>521172416
I hate when people make Tangle's fur that drab gray color instead of the blueish one.
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Gonna try to make Sonic Adventure 3 box art that looks super accurate and real, I'll post it later
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>>521169526
Does someone have those tailsxmina pics in sonic channel style someone made on ai? They were super cute, that ship along tailsxhoney need more pics.
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>>521173560
Hell yeah
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knuckles… I’m so glad I listened to you…
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The Ultimate Pillow Humper
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>>521169526
Smooch
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>>521175915
My hand on the bottom right, groping his featureless crotch (at least it is for now)
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from too much echidna ocs to too much "kickbutt females" whom are just only crying
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I was reading the debate last thread. I think Amy is a "tomboy" in the context of 90s Japan, far more conservative with more rigid gender roles. She would not really be a tomboy by the modern-day western definition, but in terms of Japanese culture, especially at the time, she would be.
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>>521176481
>in the context of 90s Japan
This is a commonly left out aspect of the discussion because most like to focus on Sonic's western impact. ST are JP, so a lot of the characterization of the characterization of the character were created within their cultural lens.

It's why Sonic needs to return to embracing more anime-esque writing and presentation with the characters.
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I miss reading books my phone not as comfortable
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>>521176481
That's a really good point actually.
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>>521176762
>characterization of the characterization of the character
characterization of the characters*
JESUS I'm tired
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>ring on her finger
Is funny to me her douchebag boyfriend ash got cucked by tails of all characters.
At least she was really happy with tails and her two children in the end. Wonder how they ended up together in-universe
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does anyone have any art of one character clinging to another's arm I need ref images
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>>521176481
tarot or cards were very feminine in the 90s japan apparently so she wasnt as tomboyish as you think
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>>521176481
Description
>Sukeban who is a sweet heart
execution
>10yo school girl
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>>521177156
The tarot made her relatable to Japanese girls, but her run into danger mindset and her being in in things like Fighters are pretty tomboyish I think.
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>>521176481
I dont know, modern tomboy is more about a girl being androginous, and being a member of the pride comunity instead of a girl who looks and behaves like an actual girl but is into boy stuff, and have a harsh personality, early trixie tang comes to my mind.
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>>521177001
I think he draws that because minafag marries himself to mina
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>>521177982
gay and crack
one of the worst ships oat
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You know who Professor Tori reminds me of? Captain Syrup from the Wario spinoffs.
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>>521178132
You just can't appreciate such a fine blend.
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Bring back this era.
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>>521178812
So much this.
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>>521146953
we talked about it
it's a mistranslation

you people put far too much weight on "official statements" over whats in front of your faces
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As a kid I remember looking through the TV guide and going "holy shit Sonic X is on?". Then I woke up at like 6am and was incredibly disappointed to see the Sonic characters onscreen for like four minutes and never watched it again.
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Silver will save the white race
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>>521179798
>Then I woke up at like 6am and was incredibly disappointed to see the Sonic characters onscreen for like four minutes and never watched it again.
Get better bait
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>Silver
>saving anything
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>>521179997
early episodes really do have very little sonic action in them
it gets substantially better later on
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>>521179798
The main novelty of Sonic X was that the characters had designs like they were in the Adventure games + Heroes and had characters like Shadow in it instead of that mohawk-quilled classic designs from the other cartoons with ugly characters you didn't recognize.
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>>521176762
Yes, it's a serious problem with the fanbase in my opinion, and responsible for a large amount of misinterpretations.
Why are we taking a Japanese franchise, made by Japanese people in Japan, with characters based on Japanese tropes...then posting old statements translated to English from Japanese...and proceeding to debate them through the context of current-year American culture?
No, you should be debating it through the lens of their culture, not ours. When you don't do that, people often come to a far different conclusion than what they really meant.

One of the most extreme examples of this would be the "Sonic hates oppression" bio that's used to condone mutilating children or the likes. That bio in the Japanese SA1 manuals says
>自由気ままが大好きで、まがったことが大キライ。
And this is repeated on Sonic Channel as
>自由気ままが大好きで曲がった事が大キライ。

"He loves being free-spirited and hates being restricted", or "hates injustice/anything crooked".
So it means Sonic likes to do things his own way and doesn't mind being spontaneous, but he hates crooked things or being forced to do something he doesn't want to do. The translation of this is recontextualized in a Modern-day American context to mean that murder is le good and you should never tell someone they're going too far.
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>>521179997
Bitch I was fucking 7 do you expect me to remember the exact ratio?
>>521180078
The world didn't feel like Sonic to me. It was like a completely different show with Sonic characters attached. I did like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog though.
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>>521180229
nta. it was only carried by aesthetics, the handful of action scenes, and Shadow times despite his criminally low screentime. I remember back in the day I would only rewatch some of the action scenes. and most of them had Shadow. the rest of the show was wholesome mickey mouse chungus. I had more fun watching SatAM unironically over the rest of X.
>inb4 SatAM boomer
I'm in my mid 20s
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>>521180487
Yeah I'm 21 before someone calls me a boomer for liking Adventures as a kid lol
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>>521180487
I remember sitting through episodes waiting for Shadow to show up because I saw him in the intro. I knew the show was different from the games like all the others, so I kept wondering how Shadow would be introduced in that universe.
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>>521180824
>least screentime
>still overshadows the rest of the cast
>gets vaulted for 15 years
sega sucks
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None of you watched Sonic X lol
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Sega needs to cut the bullshit and make a Sonic show that is set in a universe identical to the games starring the game characters going on adventures and fighting. Also, I want the characters to act cool, especially Sonic, none of that crap about giving Sonic “depth” (watering down his personality) in order to make him “relatable”.
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>>521181141
Yes
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>>521180487
>Prefer satAM
>mid-20s
Yep, obvious red flags that you were influenced by the 2010s where 90s Sonic fags opinions were law and you couldn't object to it in any way unless you wanna be called Chris Chan
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>>521181141
I've watched Sonic X in both english and japanese.
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>>521181253
WEEB
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>>521181031
Honestly? Shadow not showing up often helps paint him as a more enigmatic figure, and makes his appearances feel meaningful as a result of him only being there when needed. Having him just always be hanging around would likely end up causing him to be roped into the slice of life stuff and be treated like an out of place joke.
He obviously shouldn't have been fucking vaulted and I'd love to see more Shadow stuff, but still.
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>>521181238
I remember the 2010s being full of Archiefags shilling their comic constantly and calling it better than the games because their god Ian Flynn "saved" it.
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>>521181278
Everyone hates the dub though.
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>>521181238
my first exposure to Sonic was SatAM. in 2005. X aired a year or two after. I am a SatAM zoomer.
>obvious red flags that you were influenced by the 2010s where 90s Sonic fags opinions were law and you couldn't object to it in any way unless you wanna be called Chris Chan
In the 2010s I was reading archie. 2010s games were trash. and that classic movement although I wasn't unsure where it came from but thought it was cringe. to me at the time it was like the people who knew how to make Sonic suddenly forgot how to.
>SatAM and archie? You love the wrong version of Sonic :^)
shut the fuck up sissy
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>>521181031
>>521181315
Shadow was never "vaulted". Sega did decrease his presence in the franchise after 06, but he still appeared. He was even put in Sonic Boom because he had so many fans even though it was obvious the creators had no idea what to do with him.
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my dad vaulted me out of the will
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>>521181561
Just put yourself back when he gets dementia.
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>>521181681
magnifique
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I still have this memory of reading these posts on a Sonic forum a long time ago and an Archiefag was saying how Archie was a better Sonic experience because the games were so bad and I actually went to go read the comic to see if that was true.

Needlessly to say I read barely one issue before dropping the comic. That shit was not Sonic. Lol.
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I will be posting OOC material
He warned
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>>521182084
>I will be posting OOC material
An issue of Archie?
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>>521182084
>He warned
Why speak of yourself in third person?
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>>521182167
he's writing a dramatic comedy about ess tee aych gee
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>>521182296
Kino...
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>>521182760
The only good Surge ship
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Do Shadow and Rouge paint each other's nails?
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>>521182867
Conductor X insulator
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>>521182867
I think Kiturge can be cute in a messed up sort of way, but Surge and Lanolin work surprisingly well together.
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>>521183064
>spoiler
That's just Asuka x Shinji but furry
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>>521183383
Silver's burden of being the ship kid of any Sonic or Shadow ship is funny.
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>>521183102
Sonic isn’t furry
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>>521183638
It's also pretty stupid considering the 200 year timeskip.
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Fatmy
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>Shadow's neglected son
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That's OOC he was talking about
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Do not speak for him.
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Who is he
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How are you so sure that's what He was talking about?
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He is Him
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>>521184402
I asked him
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This is who he is
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>>521184039
God, I'd rape the fuck out of her.
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>>521184773
You think a spraybottle is gonna stop the RapeGOD?
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>>521173560
Alright I could've done a much better job but I'm bored
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>>521184828
no, but you'll at least be mildly inconvenienced
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>>521184906
>Dreamcast
Nah, this would have been on the Dreamcast 2.
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>>521184906
I see what you were going for, but this looks more like Advance 4 than Adventure 3.
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>>521185483
>Not the movie model
I'll take it
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GUYS LOOK AT MARINE
https://twitter.com/SEGAHARDlight/status/1910287907299917852
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>>521185209
Yeah I wanted more serious expressions for Tails and Amy, like Tails flying with a look of anxiety and Amy in a battle stance with her hammer. Give it more of a heightened stakes flavor than "Sonic pals in space!"
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Best Shadow model?
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>>521185808
O CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
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>>521185808
OUR CAPTAIN
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>>521185808
Cool, maybe we cab have a little more hints about marine having water based powers like sonic rush adventure.
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>>521186321
Me and my chud son that I hate.
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>>521186321
My husband and my husband's son
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OCs are good for the soul
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>>521185953
If I wasn't using preexisting art I'd do something like this
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>>521185808
CUTE!!
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>>521185808
Our captain's cool as fuck
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>>521185953
>>521186685
If you're going for a retelling of the Metarex I'd have a silhouette of Dark Oak in the background.
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maybe we'll meet at a bar
he'll drive a funky car
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>>521187302
Honestly I've only watched the first three episodes of the Metarex season but that's what I'm going for.
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He would have a funky car
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He
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>>521186321
Me (left, gigachad) and (you)
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>>521186675
I think everyone should at least try to create a cool OC at least once. It's cool to try and add to a world, and its fun to imagine how your character would interact with the rest of the cast.
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>>521177383
Throw a giant, throwing cock in between those legs and I'm a happy camper
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>>521179357
>you people put far too much weight on "official statements" over whats in front of your faces
The official statements and what's "in front of your faces" are the exact same thing. You people just keep making up your own headcanons based only on what you thought you saw, and then get angry when the actual canon contradicts you. And then you wanna try and make yourself out to be smarter and wiser than the people who made the darn games.

No, Amy being a tomboy is not a mistranslation. They call her "tomboyish". The term they use in Japanese means tomboyish, and it also has other layers to its meaning.
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>>521188496
Fuck off, Sparky
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>>521188496
she's a girly girl, no "statement" will overturn that
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>>521188464
https://x.com/713_hpl

They're a fresh artist to Twitter, maybe one day.
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>>521188639

>You people just keep making up your own headcanons based only on what you thought you saw, and then get angry when the actual canon contradicts you. And then you wanna try and make yourself out to be smarter and wiser than the people who made the darn games.

If they call her a tomboy, and write her with those same tomboyish traits throughout every single one of her appearances, then guess what: Amy Rose is a tomboy. The pink girl whose name means "love" and is defined by being in love with the blue guy, and wears dresses, is in-fact a tomboy.

It's in her personality and behavior and actions and even her dynamic with Sonic. She has a tomboyish spirit, behind her cutesy girly exterior. It is not a binary. Amy is a tomboyish girl.
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>>521186091
SA2 will always be the best, but I think a good second is Sega Superstars. It's essentially just SA2's but higher-poly.
Besides that, probably Tokyo 2020...
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Apparently Jewel is supposed to be 16? I thought she would be older than that.
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>>521189013
It's the suit, isn't it?
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>>521188964
being a pink girl obsessed with love is the opposite of a tomboy
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>>521189052
That and her mature attitude. I figured she was around Vector's age.
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>>521189013
Tangle's childhood friend
who apparently can run a museum
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>>521186091
Movie Shadow
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>>521189052
the suit is so sexy
uuuu...
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>>521189183
No. It is not a binary.

Amy Rose, the pink girl wearing a dress in love with the blue guy and uses magical girl heart powers, IS a tomboy. That is how her own creators, how Sonic Team in general, sees her. Amy's entire personality is "tomboyish" in their eyes, so that is what she is. Her behavior throughout the Adventure games, Heroes, Battle, etc, is "Tomboyish".
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Ai answer
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>>521189429
it is a binary
she's a girly girl
girly girls are the opposite of tomboy

a tomboy doesn't wear skimpy dresses
a tomboy doesn't fantasize about romance and weddings

>but the creators say
then the creators are wrong
you put far too much weight on "statements" over what is in front of your face

idiot
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>>521189684
>it is a binary
>she's a girly girl
>girly girls are the opposite of tomboy
No, it is not a binary. Because one person can embody both masculine and feminine characteristics. Someone of either gender could be 75% masculine and 25% feminine or 25% masculine and 75% feminine.

Amy has a girly look combined with a tomboyish spirit. That is what her character is. Period.

>then the creators are wrong
No. The creators are the creators. YOU are not Amy's creator(s), YOU have no authority over who and what the character is. If the characters say she is tomboyish and write her in such a way that reflects that trait in their eyes, then that is what she is.

You people just keep making up your own headcanons based only on what you thought you saw, and then get angry when the actual canon contradicts you. And then you wanna try and make yourself out to be smarter and wiser than the people who made the darn games.

Face it. If you actually played the games and paid attention to how Amy actually behaves as a character, then it should be immediately obvious to you that she is, in-fact, a tomboy.
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>>521190057
Sparky you're retarded shut up
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>>521190105
No. I am not. And no, I won't.

I will share the truth. And the truth is that Amy Rose is canonically tomboyish, and always has been since her debut in Sonic CD, and is still recognized as such on Sonic Channel.
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>>521190361
You are a fake fan. You only read wikis, manuals and bios while pretending to know anything. Gtfo.
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>>521190361
amy in CD is a non-character damsel in distress
amy in adventure onwards is a girly girl
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>>521190437
>You are a fake fan.
No, I'm not. I've played the games, I've watched the shows, I've read the comics, I know what I'm talking about.

I experience the game itself and I read its manual, and I take EVERYTHING into consideration to draw the conclusions I do. You guys discard whatever you don't like to force your own headcanons, but I don't do that. I acknowledge every possible factor to find the actual underlying truth that encompasses everything.

And the actual truth is that Amy Rose is tomboyish. Especially in the context of 90s Japan, as this person points out. >>521176481
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This retarded fake fan should leave this place. First it was the wind, and now tomboy Amy.
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>>521190441
Being a damsel in and of itself is just a narrative role, it has nothing to do with her actual personality.

Her story in Adventure and her personality there carries very strong tomboyish energy from her very first cutscene to the very end of her campaign. To say she's just a girly girl is focusing solely on the exterior and disregarding everything deeper than that. And that is the problem with you only caring about "what you see" but ignoring everything the manuals and the creators actually say.
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>>521190674
>me after going to sleep and coming back to sthg
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>>521190361
you care more about this dogshit than the actual creators who write something about a character in an outdated wiki and then proceed to make the said character demonstrate opposite behavior. go do something else productive like checkers or something

>>521190858
What I see contradicts what sega's toilet paper says. so I'll take what I see.
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>>521188496
>>521188639
>>521188964
>>521189684
You know, I was just writing something up about this. Read my statement here, for one: >>521176481
90's Japan had far more strict gender roles than we do now in current-year America. So what constitutes a "tomboy" would be less extreme.
"Otenba" (おてんば / お転婆) generally describes a girl who is spirited and not afraid to act in a way that is considered "boyish" or "unladylike".
So otenba be translated as "tomboy" and it's not exactly incorrect, but what you're both missing here is that it's broader in scope than tomboy is to us.
A tomboy typically implies a girl with a masculine personality, whereas otenba can also mean being energetic, lively, and strong-willed. Otenba is more nuanced and basically celebrates a girl's spirit.

Amy is described as おてんば / お転婆 in the Sonic CD manual
https://www.sega.jp/genesismini2/jp/assets/manual/pdf/JP_Sonic-The-Hedgehog-CD.pdf
The Sonic Superstars about page/web manual
https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicOrigins/about/
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/6/64/Sonic_Origins_Web_Manual_%28PC_version%29_JP.pdf
And her 2021 Sonic Channel cover story.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210222084040/https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/topics/special/coverstory/20210222_002499/

Like I say, arguing about Japanese words or culture through the lens of our words and culture is going to give you inaccuracies if you rely strictly on literalism, especially since Japanese is such an indirect language.
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This makes more sense. Thanks, Japanese-knowing anon
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>>521190973
>What I see contradicts what sega's toilet paper says. so I'll take what I see.
There is no contradiction. Your blinded by your own preconceived assumptions that contradict what is actually shown on-screen.

It's like someone believing that Archie Sonic and Game Sonic are the same character because the comics the read and the games they play "feel the same" on the surface, completely ignoring or failing to recognize every single thing that separates Archie from Game Sonic on a fundamental level.

>you care more about this dogshit than the actual creators who write something about a character in an outdated wiki and then proceed to make the said character demonstrate opposite behavior.
Amy being tomboyish is a consistent thing Sonic Team mentions on more than on occasion. Even a recent post about her newest wallpaper has the same general description. They don't use the specific word "tomboyish" in that specific post, but the general stuff they say is describing the same idea. She's an active, powerful and dynamic force alongside being dreamy and girly and cute or whatever. She is a girl with a tomboyish spirit. She isn't entirely one or the other. She breaks the mold, on both sides.
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>>521191451
ok...... I'll continue to have my way as I please. Amy is not a sukeban. She is a girly girl.
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>>521190973
would fuck that
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>go to sleep
>wake up to the same argument
/sthg/ i love you never change
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>>521191541
No, Amy is "Otenba", as this person explains:

>>521191091
>"Otenba" (おてんば / お転婆) generally describes a girl who is spirited and not afraid to act in a way that is considered "boyish" or "unladylike".
>So otenba be translated as "tomboy" and it's not exactly incorrect, but what you're both missing here is that it's broader in scope than tomboy is to us.
>A tomboy typically implies a girl with a masculine personality, whereas otenba can also mean being energetic, lively, and strong-willed. Otenba is more nuanced and basically celebrates a girl's spirit.

That's what "Tomboyish" means for her. She's energetic, lively, and strong-willed enough that she acts in a way that could be considered boyish or un-ladylike, in-contrast to someone like Cream who was raised with strict discipline that makes her much more prim and proper in her polite mannerisms.
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I love dog dick btw
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>>521191768
We know eggchad
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>>521191729
"Tomboy" around these parts of the world are synonymous with sukeban. If you went to an average non Japanese knowing rando and told them "Amy is a tomboy" like how you do around these threads, they will either think you are lying or you were consooming too much fanfics.
The concept you and the other anon are pointing too is still within the girly region and not in the tomboy region.
>She is a tomboy by the Japanese standard of tomboy
The average rando does not care what they do in Japan. speak our language or speak theirs.
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Which game character has the most colors in their total palette? The least?
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>>521192201
i love her
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>>521191541
Amy is into a lot of traditionally feminine hobbies, but she can and does act in an unladylike manner, especially in regards to her strong spirit and energetic nature. She's not very demure. This would make her the Japanese word for tomboy, otenba, but otenba is broader than tomboy.
She is a tomboy in a Japanese context. She is not a tomboy in a Western context.

It's saying she's spirited and not afraid to get roughed up a bit. Like pic related. That's all.
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>>521192515
>>521192131
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>>521192212
>Most
Tossup between any member of the Babylon Rogues, Silver, and Blaze

>Least
Tails
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>>521192515
She's a blend of girly aesthetics and a tomboyish spirit. That combination is what makes her Amy Rose.
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When I think of Amy's tomboyish vibe, my mind always goes to Nazz from Ed, Edd 'n Eddy because she gives off the same energy in my opinion.
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MMMmm Shadmari
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>>521192929
Do you all think "tomboy" means "girl with short hair"?
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>>521193112
No. What I specifically always think about is that the "all the boys love Nazz" episode is also the episode where they're all playing baseball, and she was very eager to play the game, and throughout the series she is a very energetic and lively girl, similar to Amy. Rolf's nickname for her is also "Go-Go Nazz Girl", emphasizing that same energy. Nazz is like Amy, if the love chase dynamic was reversed but her personality beneath that is unchanged yet also oblivious or whatever.
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Would Sonic make a good pet?
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>>521192685
Hm, subtracting white and black for a moment, we have
>Jet: 5
>Wave: 6
>Storm: 6
Huh, I guess 6-8 is the current "limit". Also, I hadn't noticed all the Rogues have the same blue eyes. That's a nice touch.
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>>521193378
Sonic would never be anyone's pet, because he'd never be subservient to anybody and would not allow himself to be stuck in one place. He'd be more like a wild animal who might occasionally show up for a while randomly before leaving again.
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I love this site but it's too addictive. I'll quit and lurk Reddit, get pissed, and come back here.
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>>521193590
>Movie Sonic and Tom
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Daily reminder that Quaverchad mogs all the drawfags of this shithole
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>>521193647
what did we do to you?
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>>521193502
smaller
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>off-topic
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>>521193414
>Also, I hadn't noticed all the Rogues have the same blue eyes. That's a nice touch.
That's neat. It's like The Chaotix and them having yellow/yellow-orangish eyes
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>>521193378
He'd be like a stray that just shows up every once in a while, hangs out for a bit, then vanishes completely. It'd be nice as long as you don't get too attached and start worrying about him, because he'd never let you lock him indoors.
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>>521193054
before the movie some of us thought that shadow caused that explosion based on the trailers we had, making him "the bullet" that killed maria
would it be a good change if it was shadow who killed mario?
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>>521194045
It makes me think it could've been an intentional element to showcase their shared lineage, but without another Babylonian other than them I guess it can go either way headcanon-wise.
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>>521185808
OOC
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>>521194398
He's still technically the cause of her death either way, but I enjoy the whole government atrocity part of the story too much to get rid of it entirely.
If I was going to have Shadow directly cause the explosion I would have it be collateral from him trying to protect Maria by fighting back against GUN. I'd then have Shadow basically just let himself be sealed away since he'd view himself as a dangerous monster that is better off locked away, with him simply losing the will to fight.
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>>521192737
Correctamundo as usual Sparkster.
>>521194398
It would make it more direct. But even in the main universe, Shadow's at least partly the reason she died. So it's not really doing anything except making it more obvious, y'know?
One thing I don't like about the movie is that it removes the irony and the tragedy in "he was made to save her but became the reason she died".
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>>521194215
the hell is that
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>>521194215
The scrawl on the cape is a little much, ruins the spook factor
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i'd also say that her thick thighs also ruins the spook factor
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>>521194045
Personally I think all of the Chaotix having the same eye color is just lazy, but then again they seem to do that when they want the characters portrayed more as a unit rather than individuals.
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What the HECK is that thread image?
Why are Surge's human feet so detailed? How do feet fetish people find themselves attracted to Sonic characters feet when they have blobs, not feet?
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It's kind of creepy how I can tell when some specific people here have woken up just because they always make the same types of posts.
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>>521195032
...yes that too, I honestly didn't even notice that lol
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>>521195160
and who are these specific people, schizo?
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>>521195160
People have individual personalities. In a "community" like this, you're bound to recognize everyone's behavioral patterns even if they're all posting anonymously.
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>>521195221
>Point out specific people so I can start namefag drama
No, I don't think I will. Too early for that.
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>>521195359
You're a dramawhore then.
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>>521195349
>>521195349
>>521195349
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Won't use that thread.
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nta, but if there is an image of shadow that doesn't have a random filename that post was made 90% of the time by krack
no one else has their shadow folder so organized
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>>521193627
Movie Sonic isn’t a pet, he’s a son, because he’s the wind and he chooses to be their son, because you can’t spell Sonic without son!
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