Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050501797>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Starshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3053199741>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644# News:>CHAPTER 3A HAS BEEN RELEASEDhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>521096438
Behave, gentlemen
This bread is RAW
Ashley canonically sucks at sex
Misbehave, ladies
Given recent persecution attempts towards good anons, I am now a juliafagTotal sister death
>>521131292She's fine at sex. Andrew was drunk and she was forcing herself to break the ice. She's the best sex Andrew ever has while drunk.
>>521131292Probably has something to do with the psychologically oppressive and abusive environment they've trapped each other in, because when she's drunk Leyley goes away and the Ashley comes out.>>521131407Nigger, keep it in the old thread.
>>521131407>brings drama to the next thread when anon say not to>wonders why juliafags are disliked
>her face when you are not her brother
>>521131551>she's drunk Leyley goes away and the Ashley comes out.Andrew just has to get Ashley addicted to heroineasy peasy
>>521131729That sounds like a horrible idea, plus Andrew's already addicted to the heroine.
>>521131551I think it's moreso that when she was drunk during it, she seemed more comfortable and enjoyed it more. Was probably more affectionate too. Andrew wants that sort of love from her.
>>521131659You're replying to yourself but alas i'm not going to keep this goingI will return to my Renee and Douglas / Julia and Anon drawing
>>521131407if its war hussies want, its war hussies will get
>>521131729>Ashley addicted to heroinPlease noShe should be remain pure and evil for her brother
Man I just love Renny
>>521131220I frequently eat raw dough.
>>521131853>You're replying to yourselfA-Are you saying we're the same person
>>521131843>Andrew wants that sort of love from her.The problem is, at least in that ending, they've gone beyond the point of that sort of simple love because of the abuses they've heaped upon each other reaching critical mass. It's a really, REALLY bad ending unless your interest begins and ends solely at them fucking.>>521131853>but alas i'm not going to keep this going>keeps it going
>>521131772>>521131964how do you get sisters drunk without them realizing it?
>>521131717Ashley would bend over for anyone who would provide her security and belonging.
>>521132162Seltzers and margaritas, my sister plows through those shits like they're water and then ends up sloshed in an hour.
>>521131292>>521131482Isn't obviously an emotional thing?The vision with happy sex and alcohol making her treat him as a real lover both lean on Andrew not being too satisfied with hate fucking.
>>521132162You just share mixed drinks and make sure you're not dosing yourself as much.
>>521131990dick of the brother variety tastes like warm pizza dough
Man these threads have picked up at their speed
>>521132227Wrong. She loves Andrew way more because he makes her like she belongs. She's not some whore you can woo by going >I totally get you
>>521132162>>521132238Some Tequila too. Uh... I hope you are not planning to be raped by your sisters
>>521132227I wonder what would happen if Douchebag wasn't a Douchebag
>>521132541>I hope you are not planning to be raped by your sistersCan't rape the enthusiastically willing.
>>521132541
>>521132238so he just needs to start buying seltzersor maybe he could beat her
>>521132539t. Bitch in a BoxEnjoy getting cucked by ???
>>521132697dude, you need a hobby that isn't shitposting.
>>521132625She'd have done the same thing I think>>521132772The /calg/ waifuwars continue. But what od the /calg/ husbandowars? Andrew vs ??? Andrew vs Douglas
>>521132274>Andrew not being too satisfied with hate fuckingGay
>>521132954For me, it's Douchebag.
when was ashley drunk fucking
>>521133017Friend B is better
>>521132954That's not even waifu war, it's literally just repeating the same garbage posts that have nothing to do with anything that happens in the game. There is no cucking, there will be no cucking because the only people who actively think about that shit are the fetishists who need to force it everywhere like footfags or pubefags.
>>521133034Play the fucking game, and in Chapter 2 shoot Andrew and in Chapter 3 get the ring in the forest
>>521132954Friend B > Douglas > ??? (i headcanon him as a autistic Yule) > Andrew
>>521132625>Nothing changes. She didn't stand him up because she knew who he was or how he acted. She stood him up because it felt wrong in her core and she only agreed to the date because it was expected of her. I feel like this was done purposely to contrast with Andrew having the same feelings as Ashley about it but forcing himself to anyways..the failure to proofread will continue until morale breaks
>>521131482Andrew said it was pretty mid aside from that one night she was drunk too
>>521133209"play the game" and its variations should be the biggest, boldest words on the wordcloud, and rightly so.
>>521133209im not going to shoot andrew
>>521133162>pubefagsWhat are you talking about
>>521133050Yeah, and also just good writing. It's really common for teenagers to pressure other teenagers into dating or sex and shaming virgins. I really want to know more of Ashley's time in school from her perspective. As an adult she seems to really hate "following the norm", but in highschool it seemed that she still made somewhat of an attempt to fit in and have friends.>>521133264Andrew >>>> LU >> Douglas > ??? >>> Friend B >>>>>> Douchebag
>>521133370"mid" is fine brainrotanon.>>521133454>he doesn't knowit's better you don't, newfag
>>521132954Friend B already won.
>>521133454>What are you talking aboutYou'll see, eventually.
>>521133478LU is not a boy, its a girl
>>521131220>raw
>>521133602Hmm, no!
>>521133691To be fair, condoms suck.
>>521133783Andrew doesnt believe in them
>>521132954Andrew > Douglas > Lord Unknown> Friend B > Surgeon > ??? > Douchebag
>>521133848Probably one of the few times I agree with him.
>>521133848Andrew made sure he had plenty of them with Julia. He definitely believes in them. Just not with Ashley.
>>521133956That was her sister.
>>521133848There were condoms next to Julia in that one puzzle with her mouth open though
Yule is the best Nemlei boy at sex.
>>521133956I guess he really just wanted to feel her raw
>>521134061He even celebrates her getting pregnant because they can go to town raw after the abortion while she's on pregnancy cooldown.
>>521134008>that one puzzle with her mouth openThe subtle eroticism that runs through this game is what gets me sometimes
Andrew would be one of 5 men that post on AO3
>>521134354Is it bad to be a man posting on AO3?
>>521134237how long can you not get pregnant after an abortion?
>>521134354He might be 1 of 5 men that post there but he's also 10% of total posts.
>>521134423As long as the writing is good, it's fine
>>521133891>retarded self-destructive oafs and a literal demon over a kind, successful man who loves his wife and future children
>>521134575women
>>521134575Doug did nothing wrong.
>>521133848>>521133908funny how men can find the willpower to cum into any weird DIY turkey glove contraption but wearing a condom during actual sex itself is *such* a difficult task
>>521134724He didn't become a lawyer.
>>521134425>Ovulation can occur as soon as 2 weeks after an abortion. This means a person may become pregnant again before their next period.
>>521133478Exudes Determination deserves a spot.He's a cute hopeless romantic, though he might be a bit of a man whore if the "works every time" is anything to go off of.But maybe he just is earnestly searching and never found the right woman.There's also Carl Cultman or whatever his name wasThe cake eater cultist>>521134354>he doesn't realize how many incestuous undertones he accidentally adds into his works>"what, that's just how brothers and sister act!"Or perhapsHe just writes all the female love interests to act like Ashley and mirroring their relationship
>>521134425It's no better than regular safe days and probably not very comfortable for the woman during that time I assume. So it's probably just going to be another pregnancy and abortion to teach them that lesson.Unless I'm mistaking what he said and was celebrating her getting pregnant because she cant get more pregnant.
>>521134724he didn't get his wife to raise Andrew and abort Ashley
>>521134575Friend B wouldn't kill for you. Andrew and Douglas would.
>>521134747NTAIt's not that condom sex isn't enjoyable, but raw pussy is just that much better.Conversely, random rubbery holes are way better than rough man hands.
>>521134747notice how there's no condom envolved with the DIY turkey glove
>>521131039I haven't done every route or anything but this is such a well done game. Like a real well judged creative vision.I think its fair to say I can write. I've written some fiction and a decent number of people have liked it, and I'm better at it now than the last time I put anything out there. But its so impressive to me that this game was made entirely by one person, meaning they're this good at writing, but also this casually good at all this other stuff too. Its generally considered more than enough to be good at one thing. The attitude of the whole thing is borderline french but with that pervasive anglo irony you wouldn't necessarily get with something actually French. Like it has that willingness to not overtly moralize to the audience and to just present interesting characters in interesting situations, but with this very english language sardonic, sarcastic playfulness based on both self effacing high self awareness and an instinct to light-heartedly notice and shit on the conceits of others, a shared assumption that any given person including yourself is somehow the butt of the joke in life. A tendency to view things as hapless comedy instead of drama. I know that might sound like every culture does that but there's just a particular vibe of all that that I think is more of an anglophone thing. So its not like its just some european property that happens to be written in English. No its a more unique thing than that.
What I find increasingly weird is that the whole killing Nina incident seems to be of an outlier as far as Ashley is, given she hasn't done anything like this since, and was mostly just a brat, and it isn't until the events of the main story that she resorts to murders and sacrifices but that's at the turn of 3 months of starving
>>521134269Don't forget the condoms next to her.
>>521134747Femanon... I'm going to find where you live and get you pregnant even if it takes weeks of constant sex.
>>521134269>subtle
>>521134724Douglas is too much like human cattle to have proper agency. Say what you will about Renee, at least she saw the writing on the wall and entered into the deal with the surgeon understanding what she was doing and the implications. Douglas needed to have the situation explicitly spelt out for him by her, and even then treated it like some confluence of fates he had no understanding of or ability to affect.
>>521134829>Unless I'm mistaking what he said and was celebrating her getting pregnant because she cant get more pregnant.i assumed thats what he meant
>>521134950>entirelyno, but it was written and drawn by one person
>>521135103He's too suicidal to know what's going on. But even still, he got Andrew and Ashley to make up after their year long period of ignoring each other
Day 272 of DouGOATlas Graves MOGGING every other character
>Friend B constantly hung out with Andrew since childhood, defended him against (partially true) rumours and would've helped him out at his lowest>Andrew doesn't even remember his name
>>521135261I wonder if removing Renee would've turned him into a grime soul for some time, but it also would've resulted in him doing some soul searching and resolving to do better
>>521134747Because with a condom the friction is applied to the barrier instead of the penis, dumbass.
>>521134968Its not that weird considering she was pushed to the limit of her isolation from everyone else ( even if most of that was her own fault ) as a kid. Then of course andy spent more time with her after nina unalived. She kinda made interpersonal progress upto HS, but after being isolated again for 3 months she remembered nobody else actually gives a fuck about her and nobody matters but andy and relapsed to how she is now
>>521135369based
>>521135378Sorry, Friend B didn't have tits
>>521135378Unless his name is Ashley why would he
>>521135369Renee...
>>521135441I'm looking forward to seeing Ashley side flashbacks in Burial run to see what exactly spurred her on to kill Nina, because I dunno, it doesn't really seem to add up with what we've seen of her.
>>521135378andrew is a cunt
>>521135579>more flashbacks just to see Renee is even worse than we already thoughtyeah we get it Nemlei hates her mom
>>521135378Has Andrew put his penis into or considered putting his penis into FriendB? No? There's your answer.>Jane
>>521135378I was pleasantly surprised that Friend B was pretty much the only person who was on Andrew's side>>521135441I wonder how Ashley would have been if she had a female friend that actually cared about her and wasn't interested in Andrew>>521135579If Burial turns out not having Ashley POV flashbacks I'll be very dissapointed.
>>521135728>JanekekDoes that mean he wants to put his penis on Lord Unknown?
>>521135825He doesn't use Lord Unknowns name, He calls him "Something terrifying" (I think?) and "Fucking Snoop" and when he's being manipulated "Something Kind"
>>521135825He didn't reemmber LU's name, he called him something terrifying.Andrew not wanting to dick down LU confirmed.
>>521135728Could you imagine if Andrew rizzed Julia and her sister into a threesome and was still bored as fuck
>>521135957He doesn't know Lord Unknown's name but once he does, he uses his name
I now know for sure Nemlei is a woman because Andrew is the bigger yandere out of the two.
>>521136041Maybe LU actually has a vaguely female voice and Andrew has his monster fucking permit?
Lord Unknown shows that it takes having loving parents to be a well-adjusted individual, even if you are a scary demon
>>521135786>I wonder how Ashley would have been if she had a female friend that actually cared about her and wasn't interested in Andrewjust as bad. Nina only had a puppy crush on Andrew and she murdered her.
>>521136202Nina also treated Ashley like shit. Also it wasn't murder, it was manslaughter
>>521135261I'm not sure I would credit Douglas with that given it seemed entirely unintentional. All he does is tell them to keep it down because it's his rest day. They were already going to reconcile one way or another just by being finally forced to interact again due to Ashley's job. All that would have changed is whether they had a fight first.
>>521135786She could be a certified lesbian and Ashley will never drop the paranoia of thinking she is just in the long-con to steal Andrew.
>>521136290>Nina also treated Ashley like shitpeople forget this she really did
>>521136202We don't actually see either Julia nor Nina seeing Ashley as a friend.Given how andrew had a friend and he was apathetic towards him, I think Ashley would be a tinge less insane and at least give her friend the benefit of not being involved in her bullshit, but I doubt she'd care about her.Ashley seemed to think of Julia as her friend and her dating Andrew really pissed her off
>>521134747I wonder if condom sex is worse if you never had raw, such that your brain can't fool you into thinking it's raw during it. Or maybe it's better if you've never experienced anything besides it?The Condom itself can feel good with its own lubrication but then the pussy is just providing a warm hug which is still enjoyable but its really not the same, same with mentally since there is a barrier and in ways its more like you are fucking the condom than the girl you love.Like the one anon said it's that raw is just leagues better physically and mentally.Though if your girl isn't on the pill condoms allow you to nut inside which should be the goal of all men with the girl they love and does amazing work to the psyche>captcha: STDG8
>>521135957>he's being manipulatedThe twist will be that LU is as close to genuinely helpful as a demon can be on the Decay path
>>521135786>I wonder how Ashley would have been if she had a female friend that actually cared about her and wasn't interested in AndrewShe would still be paranoid about her wanting Andrew and tell her to kys
>>521136463>Ashley seemed to think of Julia as her friend and her dating Andrew really pissed her offAshley says herself she has no friends. It's time to take the bitter redpill that both of them were well and truly rotten by the time of Nina's death
>>521136552I dunno, at around that time Ashley was just a brat rather than a psycho, so I think she would've been capable of being friends
>>521136317>Trying to discredit Goatlas intentionally fixing the rift between his kidsTsk tsk tsk
>>521134950Circumstantial evidence has led me to believe that Nelmei is Finnish. I can't really say anything else because I don't know anything about Finland except that it's cold there and they like saunas.
>>521135435stop being a baby about it or get snipped jackass>>521134913yeah yeah theres shit men could do better in bed too, wearing a condom is the bare minimum of that>>521135728we need the gay andy experimentation flashback with his lettered friends
>>521134865Maybe Friend B would kill for his wife and kids
>>521136629She also called Julia her best friend when complaining to Andrew, and in Questionable Burial, her and Julia are in a portrait called friends.She just flippantly changes these terms and defintions based on the situation at hand, and Julia dating Andrew was a betrayal for herAshley resented her for having a crush on Andrew and then for dating him, but ni her own way she did think of her as a friend.
>>521136521And "as close to genuinely helpful as a demon can be" is probably going to still be self serving unless he lets Andrew back out of their little deal emptyhanded because he has bigger and better things to do.
>>521134865Friend B defended Andrew and Ashley from the vicious incest rumours which is more than what those 2 lowlives deserve.
>>521136867per ?????, LU is unable to do anything to Andrew unless they agree to a deal vague enough he can twist.
>>521131292She needs to be drunk to activate the Renee-OVERDRIVE SEX mode.
>>521136995That was pretty much what happened in the cliffhanger ending no?
>>521136789>Circumstantial evidence has led me to believe that Nelmei is Finnish
>>521136789>Circumstantial evidence has led me to believe that Nelmei is FinnishNo fucking shit.>>521137041lmao
>>521134747Masterbation is just masterbation; it doesn't matter. Having sex with a woman is about the woman. The less present she is the more you might as well be masterbating.Though in fairness female birth control all seems to involve damaging them mentally and/or physically for some reason, so condoms could be worse.
>>521137040Andrew has agreed to nothing, not yet at least.
>>521137426Well I guess we've just discovered another failstate/dead end for episode 4.
>>521136496>same with mentally since there is a barrierinversely this makes sex for the girl significantly easier because she isn't worried of ''what if''
>>521137567It'd probably be called Andy Wins or something
>>521136789I guess it makes sense if so. Like these days young curious people in so many European countries get so baked in English in the media and on the internet that not only do some of them end up being really good writers in English, but also nail and internalize the better parts of its style of humour(but I could be misjudging this entirely, I also don't know what Finnish people are like, maybe they just have a similar style going on in their own language)One of my favourite books is under the skin. Its not funny but I was also really impressed it was written in English by a dutch guy.
>>521136823Honestly I think I get her.She probably hates and has zero respect for Julia and would shit on her and use her at a moment's notice, but at the end of the day she was someone who hung out with her despite everything and was probably like the only other person besides Andrew she ever interacted with in any type of positive light.Julia is also a pushover so Ashley could bully her and order her around like Andy probably, to a point.So she didn't respect Julia or really like her, but she listened to her and enjoyed being around her and literally the only other person to do that is Andrew/Andy.Then when Julia dates Andrew she has been betrayed by the both of them now, and is also humbled because she doesn't have the control she thought she had, and even if she didn't feel the same way towards Julia the fact that Julia reveals she doesn't care enough about Ashley to not pursue Andrew is a betrayal.>inb4 this is all proven wrong in Burial
>>521137395>Having sex with a woman is about the womancorrect, please use your hands more in the future
>>521136956Not really. He just told Andrew he didn't believe them and said Douchebag was spreading them. It's not like he went running down the halls saying they were bullshit. Also they weren't even that bad at this point
>>521137434Douglas would never deny Renee sex
>>521137796Andrew mentions Ashley being bullied as a regular occurence, so I think Burial might reveal that part of the reason Ashley also resents Julia is that she kind of stood aside due to being a pushover herself.
>>521136797He wouldn't hurt a fly
Remember all the talk we used to have about the apartment spaces not phisically matching with each other? How do you think the Graves would fare in a House of Leaves situation?
>>521137683What if for pregnancy scares?That's valid but the pill or iud would be nest to dispell those fears if it takes you out of it so much, though I know the pill can have a bad effect on some women. And the general hassle and invasiveness of iud.There are different options of pills to try but man I know there are issues with it but we need male birth control pills that don't leave you impotent.
>>521138214>Remember all the talk we used to have about the apartment spaces not phisically matching with each other??
>>521137796>>inb4 this is all proven wrong in BurialI think the opposite, i think you just posted the reason why Ashley won't want to kill Julie
>>521138214>House of Leaves situationDoes that involve thinking? If so, they would not do well
>>521138214They would definitely have kinky car sex
>>521138069This is cute, but i prefer this
>>521138369Andrew and Ashley are puzzle solving geniuses
>>521137954>Also they weren't even that bad at this pointmurder isn't that bad?
>>521138565no.
>>521138114Ashley should've been bullied even harder until all the Stacies made her their submissive doormat
Andrew and Ashley Graves vs Mason and Mabel Pines, who wins
>>521138740hot
>>521138748Andrew can kill children.
>>521138748Mabel and Dippy have a lot more superpowers and are smarter
>>521138114And also a reason she liked her too since Julia wouldn't have bullied her. Makes me wonder what Jane thinks of Ashley before the harassment stuff since I think we mainly just see her talking about her hatred of Andrew.>>521138358Anon the second Julia opened her pussy up for Andrew her death was guaranteed.The only reason she doesn't directly pursue it in Decay is the hassle and potentially the mental decay it causes her just to think of Julia.That's the girl that fucked and stole her brother's virginity and that seriously fucked her up for good reason too.Though the blame rests on Andrew mainly, Julia is an easy target.
>>521138748Assuming the diary contains information about ???, they still cant do much about the psychopath murder siblings
>>521138979As i said before Burial is about burying their past, doesn't make sense to go after Julia
>>521134968People do project their post-quarantine insanity back onto their past selves a bit too much. Even Ashley isn't 100% into eating their neighbor, at least at first. They've both degenerated a lot from where they were at the start of the story.
>>521138748>>521138907Also Mabel and Dipper have friends why Andrew and Ashley are fucking losers
>>521139176Mabel and Dipper also weren’t responsible for raising each other
>>521139143>Even Ashley isn't 100% into eating their neighborWasn't her first reaction upon looking at the body "that's a lot of meat..." and then trying to act like Andrew is the one who thought of cannibalism first
>>521138979Oh, Jane probably hates Ashley, given the phone call at the start of chapter 3.What I'm wondering though, whether Rebecca or Julia will be revealed to be the one who started the rumors.I can see Julia doing it behind her back due to being a doormat,and not being able to confront her(or Andrew later), but having enough resentment to pull something like that behind their backs.Ashley is very conspicously reticent about her experiences with her classmates in flashbacks and I think it's because she doesn't want Andrew to know about the extent of it.I wouldn't be surprised if she found out what Douchebag was about when some of her friends joked about it and she stood him up due to that dissapointment
>>521139084Nemlei's hinted that burying your past isn't going to be a universally healthy thing. Ashley's still seething about Julia and wants her dead, we see her try to demand Andrew kill her in S&S, it could absolutey come up again in Burial.
>>521139308I think the only thing Mabel and Dipper dont have is ruthlessness and age which might be enough for Andrew and Ashley to murder the in cold blood for no reason/fun
What other boards goes /calg/ frequent, I'm a /ck/ main
Do you think Nemlei got the dialogue for the school rumors part from Twitter posts?
>>521139572>Andrew and Ashley are basically your average white trash couplemakes sense
>>521139434I kinda got the feeling Ashley would rather move on from Julia but reopening wounds makes her hate Julia again.At the start of Decay, Ashley wanted nothing to do with Julia, and she only demands Andrew kills her after finding out Julia rummaged through their appartment.I do see Ashley using Julia as a test to see whether Andrew would do something fucked up like agreeing to kill or sacrifice Julia for no reason, and then be unnerved with how casually Andrew agrees.I can even imagine a scene where they chat around and Ashley gets increasingly nervous over how calm Andrew is about leading her to her death, to the point Ashley herself calls it off and Julia is left mildly confused.Or, in Questionable, they go through with it and Ashley regrets it.The thing about Ashley is she doesn't really *want* to hurt people, she only does it reactively, the puzzle with flowers and knives demonstrates that.
>>521139572>Inbred children
>>521138748>Dipper: Woah you've been seeing mysterious things here too?>Andrew: Err, yeah. Some real occult shit people actually summoning demons I believe you. You need help investigating?This is when he leads him to the demon circle and Ashley does the ritualIf the journal details entities than Dipper might catch on that he is being used and should beware so he starts to runBut given Decaydrew...Well he would just overpower him at that point.Mable's best bet would be causing chaos probably or sticking Waddles on the ceremony to idk knock over the candles or lick up the blood circle
>>521139665The "Fucking Idiot" line was 100% aimed at haggots who want Andrew to be some generic haremshit protag
>>521139808as opposed to Nemlei who wants Andrew to be the generic female romance novel male protagonist
>>521139572/cm/, /adv/, /ic/, /s4s/, /lit/
>>521139913Yes
I heard Andrew has been raping his sister since they were both babies. Any truth to that?
>>521139913>women want a man to fuck em and kill em and not even in that orderlol
>>521140021uuuooohhhhh sister clussy ;____;
>>521137684I meant more along the lines of Andrew getting different offers for a deal from LU as LU keeps trying to push his luck and Ashley having her own thing with trusting Andrew or ???
>>521139760this
>>521110843>Look, Gravesman. All I know is that last night there was screaming in your backyard when your sister was doing one of 'em weird blood and crappy music demon rituals, and this morning I woke up to two dead broads floating in my friggin' pool. So I put two and two together there eh, and decided that you two are pissing me off.
why didn't andrew pocket the letter julia gave him as proof him and julia are over with incase she found out
>>521138748
>>521140131>>521139913
>>521140405Need this and the nipple-biting one done with Andrew and Ashley
weird how renee only gave a thought about her kids if she ( wrongly att ) presumed andy was taking advantage of ashley sexually.
>>521140738would she even care?
>>521140738because it reflects poorly on her
>>521140738Ashley getting knocked up with an incest baby would be a fucking nightmare to her
>>521140457>>521140457This is literally a panel of TCOAL
>>521138979People forget that Andrew sarcastically suggested killing Julia in S&S to satiate Ashley after he pulled a really stupid stunt, ashley agrees, but he backs out because it wouldn't actually satiate ashley for long.
>>521140851
>>521140851>>521141060>>521140457someone do it
>>521140851this kinda makes me wonder, does Ashley actually see Andrew as her dad?Andrew clearly harbors a lot of parental instinct toward her which is why he struggles to see her romantically.But does Ashley? is it like extreme Electra complex, or does she still recognize Renee as her parent so it's easier for her to fall in love with Andrew?She does callhim daddy at one point but it's more of a joke
>>521140109Ashley’s the rapist
>>521140937Like >>521139382 said, in Burial it will be Ashley who calls it out
>>521138748What are the Pines supposed to do against the Graves?
Oh no AndrewxRenee art lolNow your day is ruined
>>521140848Ashley shoots her shot at 18 or 19 so Renee could have been a grandmother at 35 or 36. She'd be mortified on those grounds alone.
>>521140937>but he backs outThat was almost as cathartic as the assbeatingThis retarded hole will never be happy if he enables her and he finally learned
>>521141372>What the pines going to do against the GravesBecome dinner or a sacrifice. Maybe even both.
>>521141248someone post that Nemlei post
>>521141248shes not a ''daddy'' girl type like julia
>>521141438I love the pov missionary position pic.
>>521141629Are you sure?
If Renee only cares about appearences, why did she refused to abort?Was it because it's her lover's seed?
>>521140937>but he backs outI can't believe she lived
>>521141629so, Andrew sees her as his daughter first, lover second, friend third and sister last,While Ashley sees him as a friend first, lover second, brother third, and dad last?
How long do we think until Australia re-bans the game?
>>521139382I said elsewhere above my opinion that >>521133338
>>521141629Andrew is her "daddy"
>>521141769Stubborness, wanting to prove her parents wrong mainly.Renee was obsessed with maintaining an image of a happy and succesful family.
>>521139572Mostly alternate between /v/ and /g/ these days.
>>521141629>God is watching, daddy
>>521141248>does Ashley actually see Andrew as her dad?No. In Burial, when she overwrites the painting of her parents, it just says "Family". Ashley sees her mom and dad as parents and recognizes that Andrew is family. I don't even think Ashley sees Andrew as a parent
>>521141874I totally forgot that Aussies banned the gameKWAB country
>>521141931maybe, that's also a fair point.seeing Ashley centric flashbacks ni Burial would be interesting.
Do you think Andrew and Ashley would play eroge games together?
>>521141817Yes
>>521141769Yes. Andrew was an extension of Douglas and there was absolutely ZERO way she was going to get rid of him no matter what.By the time Ashley came along and turned out like she did she was almost totally checked out, she had her Douglas still so she could give a shit about the kids besides pure legal obligation and appearances.
>>521142190Well that seems to relate more to Leyley, the mindset she's stuck after Andrew has rejected her attempts to grow up and elope.I meant what she would think prior to Andrew rejecting her.
>>521142190Man this sound like it would be femdom heaven but then the Andy ending was lame as shit
_____ in a Box
>>521142220Ashley came out as a typical child. Andrew was the exception and was abnormally easy. Ashley wasn't born automatically fucked so I entirely blame Renee for Ashley growing up to be the way she is
>>521121878Thank you, O' wise and knowledgeable Saruman of Many Colors.
>>521142187Andrew would consider them an insult and ashley doesn't seem like she would be interested in porn like that.
>>521142392Kids are stupid. It would have been much easier to get away with it if they had just put something heavy on top of the crate like it fell, so it looked like she got stuck inside.
>>521142392
>>521142392>_____ in a BoxBuried in my ???Won't you come and save me?
>>521142392>Died to a small piece of woodAshley was right. Natural selection
>>521142487>Ashley wasn't born automatically fuckedshe definitely has some screws loose since day one
>>521142525Andrew watches porn on the TV. He definitely would enjoy them.
>>521142392Honestly, if she couldn't survive one day in a box, she was too weak to deserve to live.
>>521142712>Andrew watches porn on the TVAndrew definitely would become a tranny is the game was set in current year
>>521142671Her parents barely raised her since day one. All of the "screw loose" moments she had as a kid was just her acting out to have a small amount of attention from her mom and dad
>>521142392 The box looks way smaller.
>>521142818>forcing tranny bullshit into kino incest gamerope yourself.
>>521142712One point i find interesting is that the story seems to associate kinkyness with negativity.Shots and such and questionable Ashley and Andrew physically hurt each other during sex and shots and such reveals Ashley isn't into that.Renee and Douglas use rope, and they're terrible parents.Andrew's porn obsession and sexual violence towards Julia comes from his resentment towards Julia and not being with Ashley.Ashley wanted more romantic time together and cuddling but Andrew rejected that and hurt her.Seems like kinkyness is tied down to a mental state and if Andrew and Ashley resolve their issues they'd probably rather be tender than controlling/inflicting physical harm
>>521142939what else would watch porn in the TV like that
>>521134747>let me tell you about your penisthis is why women deserve to be raped
>>521142818Eroge are lame tho. Nothing like normal porn movies.
>Andrew: How else am I supposed to get through to you?>Ashley: Well violence works, tooMan she was literally asking to get turned into a broken mess
>>521142736>>521142653I would pay a few grand to see you fatasses in her place
sillyshley
>>521142671Muffin Lemons showed she acted like a regular kid once, and she wasn't even that bad in the grandparents flashbacks, and that was already fairly late into renee fucking them up.there's even a mention her and Andrew used to play on a swingset together, but when she fell off by accident, grandpa beat andrew up and they haven't played it since.
>>521131039is there a pirated version yet
>>521143080https://youtu.be/AW9253xhIQ4?si=1H6Xm2_YLY95rrCA&t=97
>>521143181Evil creature
>>521143241You have black skin abd it's gross.
For the anons asking about other books with incest, there is a tragic subplot in Orson Scott Cards Speaker for the Dead about a guy who falls in love with his sister that still pisses me off 20 years after reading it
>>521143241Yes, it's called GET A FUCKING JOB
>>521143241
>>521136793>wearing a condom is the bare minimum of thatOr don't have sex with people who aren't your brotherhusband. Hussy.
>>521143349a HANDjob
>>521142818rent free
>>521143241fucking kys tarskin
>>521143476hit a nerve?
>>521143552no, but you will when you join the 41% and slash your wrists.
nvm found it
>>521143158I already was as a child. I simply just broke out
>>521143158>be a 800lb fatass>dont even qualify to fit inside the boxwhos laughing now
>>521141728This is fake right? How the fuck do you get ashley there?
>>521143000>One point i find interesting is that the story seems to associate kinkyness with negativity.>Shots and such and questionable Ashley and Andrew physically hurt each other during sex and shots and such reveals Ashley isn't into that.reminder the burial vision had andrew and ashley full of bruises too
>>521143895Go back before you go to the motel room for her bra.
>>521143895>he doesn't knowAfter Andrew groups back up with her you can just go back to the cult hideoutThere's an achievement for it and it's a pretty lengthy scene with Lord Unknown's first appearance
>>521143895anon did you even play the game?
Is non engaging with your children as a parent really just as bad as being abusive to them?Like, would being abandoned emotionally by your parent while still being taken care of your most basic necessities really break a child Social Development?shouldn't a normal child just overcompensate by finding role models outside of the family group? why didnt they do that?Like it's stablished Andrew and Ashley spent time playing outside.Nemlei are you implying they couldn't even make some street friends to play around besides the shitty school friends?Wouldn't it have been more reasonable that Andrew became a badboy of sorts in a street gang?because if he didnt, then that just means that Renee was a manipulative cunt, that beside emotionally abandoning their children, also stopped them from having to much outside social contact in fear of being seen as a bad mother knowing that her fuck up daughter would eventually mess around and tank the reputation of the entire family.is just still feels out of place how fucked up both of them ended up being...Anyway loved the new chapter, Haven't been this attached to a game since 4 years ago.
What if Nina lived and dumbass Andrew buried alive a girl who was still comatose
me on the left
>>521144151well she’s dead now either way
what do you even talk about for 340 threads this is not that deep
>>521144151Sane difference ad cultist gettng butchered alive.
>>521143158Ive watched Kill Bill, I would break out and decapitate Ashley in
>>521142190>ashley is projecting all her unmet needs. Platonic and sexual alike.When has ashley ever tried to get a sexual need met? Every time shes acting lewd it always seems to be used purely as a tool to manipulate Andrew.
>>521144123>why didnt they do that?because then the plot wouldn't happen, some things are very forced but the game is still interesting
>>521144285>this is not that deepkinda isbut the threads were dead for a while
>>521144123They fucking killed the only kid who would play with them, it would make sense for Renee to keep those killer away from others.
>>521144346Andrew literally and metaphorically rejected her sexual needs in the past.
>>521144123>Nemlei are you implying they couldn't even make some street friends to play around besides the shitty school friends?I mean. yeah? both Andrew and Ashley are shown to be unable to really care about anyone beyond each other and their parents, and they blew their affections and remaining respect by their shitty parenting.Grandpa is abusive and beat up Andrew as a small childAndrew had several friends, including the famous Friend B but Andrew explicitly doesn't care about him or thinks about him all that much.
>>521143349That line get even worse once you realise Renee almost pushed Ashley into prostitution.Old hag must be really salty that this 20 yo cutie is still a pure virgin while she was already a whore with two brats by the she was her age
>>521144717>pushed Ashley into prostitution.she was only attention-whoring.
>>521144747ugly
>>521144747Is that drawfag still around?
I really need more of young Renee>>521144717If anything, Ashley would be the one jealous of her since Renee had the love of her life on lock since a very early age, like Ashley also tried to doAlso she didn't pushed anyone into prostitution>>521144814gay
>>521144919>Also she didn't pushedHELLO PAJEETI SEE YOU STILL HAVEN'T FUCKING LEARNED HOW TO CONJUGATE VERBS YOU TARSKINNED SHRIMP-DICK
>>521144123>shouldn't a normal child just overcompensate by finding role models outside of the family group?anon its the late 90s / early 00s and not a bastardized american cultured, theres nobody to worship
>>521144973fuck you bitch bloody
>>521144973>complaining about ESL mistake on a thread about a ESL game>>521144985>and not a bastardized american culturedexcept the game is set in not!America i'm pretty surealso implying kids only get role models in america
Quick poll for the general:>When did you find out/play the game?>what episode was your favorite?>did coffin's popularity peak during episode 2 or 3a?>will the game get more popular with the current episode, or when the full game releases?
>>521144806 You gotta stop taking R*nee's opinion on parenting
Boring poll, I'm not answering
>>521145284Fuck you Bezos
>>521144123>Nemlei are you implying they couldn't even make some street friends to play around besides the shitty school friends?If they both didn't give a shit about their school friends, why would they give a shit about street friends?>Wouldn't it have been more reasonable that Andrew became a badboy of sorts in a street gang?That goes directly against Andrew's desire to be normal
so they made everyone unlikable by taking things too seriously, bad...
>>521145284>>When did you find out/play the game?i don't remember, /v/ i think>>what episode was your favorite?1 because it was a new experience>>did coffin's popularity peak during episode 2 or 3a?2 because of all the outrage>>will the game get more popular with the current episode, or when the full game releases?the ending might get some clout >>521145321but its true, she was attention whoring but to get Andrew's ttention
>>521145284>found out about it in March 2024, due to the controversy, played in June of 2024.>I think episode 3 is, interpersonal drama is very haunting and I've come to a point I just want to see them resolve their problems.>infamy, 2, due to all of the moral outrage, actual popularity, probably 3a.>I think it'll be more popular once it's a fully completed story and people who would rather wait it out would no lnoger have anything to wait for.
>>521145424She didn't even tell andrew anything about the job.
>>521145369In what universe were the characters not already massive pieces of shitThat's why you're supposed to like themIn fact, I like Andrew significantly more after Decay
>>521145321>"don't go whoring yourself out at a sleazy massage parlour">"fuck you dadrew I do what I want">caves 5 minutes laterYes, she was attention whoring. Ashley couldn't even go out on a date with someone that's not Andrew.
>>521145284>When did you find out/play the game?Manly's first video. I played the game straight after>what episode was your favorite?So far, part 2. The flashbacks in 3 are great too.>did coffin's popularity peak during episode 2 or 3a?Episode 2>will the game get more popular with the current episode, or when the full game releases?Hard to say. Most of the popularity came from the shit flinging from the outbreeders after episode 2. I think each chapter release will have a burst of popularity, but maybe not as many new players as when that happened.
>>521145652>That's why you're supposed to like themnta what are you even talking about lol
>>521145674I think at that point Ashley has more or less given up on life, he rejected her.She settled for whoring herself out(because why even bother otherwise), which is why she didn't talk to Andrew, Andrew had to find it out himself and force her to stay.
>>521145284>>When did you find out/play the game?3 years ago on a random youtube stream iirc>>what episode was your favorite?3A2>>did coffin's popularity peak during episode 2 or 3a?based on steam stats its already surpassed ep2s peak>>will the game get more popular with the current episode, or when the full game releases?idk, depends if it ever finishes
the tower scene has finally arrived
>ashley is too lazy to get a minimum wage job/wanted to attention whore>this is somehow Renee pushing her to prostitution, despite letting her live in the house for 20 years with no issues
>>521145652I like a lighthearted plot about eating your parents not a serious story about child abuse. I now realize how retarded that sounds
>>521145284>>When did you find out/play the game?A couple months after the first episode when I was looking for a short game to play >>what episode was your favorite?3 so far >>did coffin's popularity peak during episode 2 or 3a?2>>will the game get more popular with the current episode, or when the full game releases?It'll stay about the same
>>521144985Andrew would have turned out better if he had Lebron to look up to
>>521146116l m a o
>>521146116i agree, i also feel weird with the more serious approach of episode 3 despite it still being goodi missed the more lighthearted vibe of episode 1 and 2, the camping part was the worse offender of this with the characters almost acting ooc imo
>>521146053Ashley applied everywhere all the time and kept getting rejected. Renee was planning on letting her whore herself out as a "lesson"
>>521146361The story took a turn the moment they arrived to their parents house and it got serious there.Ahsley and Andrew were getting better but Ashley's obsession with demon spurred her to kill their parents, in an attempt to ensnare Andrew and the gravity of that has made things serious.
Does Finland really have massage parlors like that? Asking for a turkish friend
>>521146224LeMickey was ringless when these murders happened
>>521146461>the woman that cares about appearences and shit would let her daughter become a prostitute>>521146523I just hope the game doesnt take itself too seriously from here on out
>>521146562pikey
Do you guys believe Ashley genuinely loves Andrew? I really stuggle to see her as anything but a leech on Andrew. No love just desperately needs.
>>521146656That's because you can't read
>>521146656Yes, but she expresses love in the most fucked up way possible due to not being loved by her parents and disliked by everyone else including Andrew.
>>521144717Renee wasn’t even a whore, she had two kids with her husband
>>521146656Play the cliffhanger route.
>>521136793t. femcelGo back to your doujins and take that greasy head mop you call hair with you. The boys are talking
>>521146716Help me understand o literate one.
>>521146656idk anon how many times does a woman have to say ''I love you'' to mean it
>>521145880Incest? Is hotCannibalism? Is coolMurderhoboing? Is basedBeing a dead inside sociopath? Literally me
>>521145284>GF showed it to me around the release of ch. 2>probably 3a>not sure but 2 made twitter go crazy>probably when the full release is out
>>521146656you're right and wrong at the same time>>521142190
>Andrew accidentally gets Nina pregnant before the confinement What would he have done? Would he have attempted an abortion or would he have wanted to see if the child really made him feel something?
>>521146562looked this up, lol
>>521134913Condom sex sucks. I wish I had a tiny dick so I could try those 1mm japanese condoms
>>521147012>NinaUoooohhhhhh undead loli pregnancy
>>521146883The words mean little to me as ashley is constantly saying shit she doesnt mean.
>>521146898>Cannibalism? Is coolits pretty disgusting actuallybut yeah incest is hot>>521146840with her one and only husband whom she lost her virginity with mind you
>>521147012>NinaIs Andy into necro?Jokes aside he would just freak out and deny it's existance
>>521147170>its pretty disgusting actuallyPersonal preference sure but there are plenty of games featuring cannibalism where it's cool as fuck to just be some unhinged lunatic who eats people like Fallout and Rimworld
>>521147012use it as an excuse to leave Ashley for good
>>521146656I don't believe it. I know it.Her actions prove it.
So uh. Is doug a cuck or what? Is the bed in the basement the cuck bed?
>>521147170Anybody else genuinely curious about the taste of human or just me? Not that I would kill anybody to try it of course.
>>521147462no retard
>>521146872Ok, if you really wanna know.You can split Ashley into two different modes of how she behaves, Ashley and Leyley.Leyley is the spoiled annoying brat who acts out and acts possessive with Andrew and treats him like her property.Ashley is the perceptive girl who understands their situation and that Andrew has to be there for her, but also that he doesn't really like anyone else, and only cares about her.her entire life has been a balancing act between Leyley and Ashley, Nina incident was her succumbing to her paranoia and doing something rash to ensnare him, however afterwards, she's chilled out and from what we see, while she's maladjusted, her and Andrew had a reasonably normal dynamics and they could openly talk about anything.When she was mad over Andrew finding himself a girlfriend, he explained he has needs, and she told him about how she sees their future.So Ashley decided to meet him, and agreed to elope with him.Picking up that Andrew very obviously is into her, she tried to grow up into the woman he wants her to be, but he rudely rejected her and then ignored her for a year.She was gentle and did what he wanted and was only met with rejection.This caused her to retreat into being Leyley more or less full time.Then, a year later, her and Andrew only now began to mend their relationship and then, they got stuck in the quarantine.Now you can see where she's coming from.???? represents Leyley side of her, her paranoia and fear of losing him, and he shows up at their lowest points in their relationship, and whenever she listens to it, she doubts him more and more.
>>521147462Renee actually let's Doug fuck other girls while she watches
>>521137434Idgi
>>521146656Yes she does. Like Nemiel said Ashley just hides it because adult feelings = being an adult and Ashley wants to stay as Leyley.I think in Burial Ashley will bury Leyley and start openly loving Andrew as an adult. Hence the vision and Ashely being enthusiastic about the sex.
>>521146872Ashley is a romantic at heart, just like Andrew. She tends to hide how much she likes Andrew under the guise of jokes. She offers to marry Andrew , not because she needs him for something but because she actually does love him. He's labeled as her soulmate in Burial and after kissing twice, Ashley considers them to basically be dating already. She even rejected another guy who would have filled her "need" of a boyfriend because it felt wrong to her core since she already loved Andrew. There's a lot more I could comb through but that should be evidence enough
>>521141438It's so disgusting, it's like shipping Tony Soprano with Livia
>>521147495everyone says it tastes like chicken>>521147462no, renee and douglas only had eyes for eachother
>>521147548I hope your right.>>521147584Based.
>>521147610The vision is treated as a "trouble ahead" because it represents the death of the Andy & Leyley dynamic. I fear once she realizes that, she's gonna go nuclear.
>>521142190How is this a "troubles ahead" vision?
>>521147676>i love incest>noo not like thatdisgusting outbreeder
>>521147675how much of that love is just trauma bonding?
>>521141248Ashley will cower behind her mother when she needs protection from Andrew. She constantly blames everyone and anyone for her actions and to avoid being punished and it never stops until Andrew feeds her a knuckle sandwich.... and even then it's temporary.Once she replaces Mom with Andrew as her parent, mom is just another hussy that can take Andrew away and Ashley becomes jealous of her as well if you interact with the mom too much without tying her up.
>>521147495What would be the best cut on a human. Thigh?
>>521147676No one wants to see a fat, middle aged Italian gangster fuck his old mother is the difference
>>521147792I saw it more as Leyley putting a bandaid on the growing distance between her and Andrew due to him mentally checking out and treating her like Julia, so she uses sex to ensnare him.They both leave physical marks on each other lke bites and bruises and shots and such shows they do not come from a place of love, but resentment.
>>521146848oh yeah? how about I wear all your hats and get greasy cooties all over them. I bet you'd like that you little freak
>>521147495If I could just smell some burning flesh I'd know enough
>>521147901thats fanart
>>521145284>Fall 2023>Episode 2>Episode 2>Yes, reviews are good and it's garnered a lot more attention since Episode 2 came out
>>521147762>tastes like chickenI've heard pork, plus everyone says everything weird tastes like chicken>>521147941pectoral?
>>521147921It's disgusting because she's an abusive horrible monster who ruined his life
>>521148076It's basically what happened in the "mortifying gratifying" vision, I just don't have a screenshot of that
>>521148018It really, really doesn't smell good at all>>521147462I don't think Nemlei was counting on people connecting cuckshit to that are at all, especially by how she wrote R&D relationship
>>521147495From older /calg/s I remember it looks most like pork and tastes most like venison
>..."and if you're alive", huh? I'll tell you how I'd finish that letter. >If that abusive asshole actually survived the fire, then think about it: he gets to go on his merry life with his sister after casually breaking your heart. Pretending people outside his sister matter then ditching them when it's inconvenient.>Andrew didn't fucking protect you, Julia. He didn't see you for the sweet, empathic girl you were. He treated you like background fodder while Ashley got carte blanche to hurt you.>Fucking really? His 6/10 BPD whore? Over *you*? If he was a good sibling, he wouldn't let you-->...>What I mean is you shouldn't mourn a freak who clearly has problems. Don't let him back into your life - not even in your head.
>>521147938Ashley actually does want to be punished, deep down, it's why she acts out often.this particular time, she actually did what Andrew told her, but fucked it up.
Even if Ashley magically learns to treat Andrew as a person she loves and not Andy she will forever remain a low impulse control BPD schizo that needs tard-wrangling
>>521147941Ribs would be pretty nice
>>521147987what's that yeasty smell
>>521148406True, I have a hard time imagining how she could function if they tried to put all the demon shit and armed robbery behind her
in 2010 i was sent to Haiti for a pacification mission and i can still remember the smell of burning huma nmeat
>>521148236but enough about Leyley
>>521148579Is it really completely distinct from just burning roadkill?
>>521148579
>>521148363I bet the "DO YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME?! Just because you can fuck him and I can't?!" voicemail really got under Jane's skin when she first heard it.
>>521148236i genuinely thought you were referring to Ashley until I read the post you replied to
>Look up Andrew Graves cosplay>Literally the ugliest faggots I've ever seen
>>521148682it's a very unique and nauseating smell>>521148734there isnt really a exciting story, it was just a guy who got electrified to death trying to steal copper wire and started burningi only got to shoot once during the entire thing
>>521148483your unwashed belly button tubby, if you can even smell yourself anymore
>>521148871>Changed the nameThank you lol
>>521148549Ashley has even developed a fetish for eating people because she thinks it gives her magic powersthere's no salvation for them, even in Burial.
>>521148871kek
>>521148549>>521149163the esoteric shit is really the worst part, you can't just drop that
When you think about it, Renee actually saved Andrew and Ashley's lives.Her chronic underfeeding them resulted in them being prepared for the starvation in the quarantine before they found a way to escape.She made sure Andrew and Ashley work as a team unit and created conditions for trust buidling.Renee really taught them well.
>>521147934Almost none. If you're referring to them abusing each other, they realize they're in love each other in highschool and they both weren't particularly abusive to each other then. Their relationship degrades after this but in everything that isn't the Shots route, it ends up becoming progressively healthier
>>521148363I want more fanart of Jane designs. This is the only one I know of so far.
>>521149163eating people does make you feel powerful, I tried humanely sourced human meat back in romania its pretty good, top tier bush meat
>>521149281Renee did absolutely nothing wrong and Douglas was a actual saint
>>521148406in the Burial route I guarantee you'll find Andrew going full mask-off which means nobody left to put a leash on the bitch. Expect dead Julia/Jane/Friend B
>>521148406How is this a bad thing?
>AS I BURN ANOTHER PAGE>AS i LOOK THE OTHER WAY>I STILL TRY TO FIND MY PLACE>IN THE DIARY OF JANEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWaB4PXCwFU
>>521149570what would the siblings sing during family karaoke night
>>521149163She doesn't eat people in cliffhanger and eating people actually does make you stronger than turns you into a demon. If I was in her place, I'd start chowing down too for demon powers
>>521149692Andrew isn't allowed to sing love songs that aren't explicitly about Ashley, which is a problem because he always listens to love songs
>>521148868Remind me NOT to look up Andrew Graves cosplay
I keep hearing these normalfags, and maybe that's the opinion here, that everything is Rennes fault when Ashley is a monster psychopath at like 9 years old. She should be shot and her organs fed to dogs. Renee could not have fixed this demon spawn if she was a good mom. Bitch though a shotgun weeding meant killing everyone at the weeding.
>>521147574pretty sure the rejection and retreat into Leyley was earlier than a year before quarantine, surely
Have more mainstream audiences been made aware that theres some seriously excellent writing here and its not just a silly meme game?I struggle to name another 2020s game with such enjoyable writing.
>>521141769She wanted to be normal. But it's not just about external appearances. She dgaf about the neighbors, her co-workers and most of her family.She wanted to prove her own mother wrong, but would have been fine just never speaking to her again. Douglas's mom had concerns and Renee did get defensive, but grandma also took good care of the kids and was definitely a source of support when the kids were smaller. Renee didn't sell Grandma's pendant. She wears it constantly and it's become part of her style. In the end she's a lot like Andrew in how they both strive for "appearances". Whether it not being a failure of a teenage mother by making things work, or not being a sister-fucker by dating Julia.Andrew knows that both of them are playing at manipulating each other, but despite being an Litfag he doesn't realize that's how society works. Morals, laws and guilt are just manipulation that keeps things from going off the rails.
>>521150158I'm not sure about the specifics of the timeline.He rejected her, ignored her for a year, and by that point they looked like how they currently do, and once he made ammends, he moved back in.Some time(unidentified) afterwards, Ashley reveals that they got locked in, just as Andrew was trying to make sense of his feelings towards Ashley.
>>521149394Dont Romanians sell their babies to meat markets because abortion is illegal?
>>521149795>She doesn't eat people in cliffhangerPart I felt was lacking, she should've taken some of the guinea pig cultist so that both routes have a corpse mutilation segmentAt least the shots had Carl
>>521150363Yes
>>521149394What does it taste like?
>>521150225It's not THAT good, you make parent smoothies in this game. It's entertaining but it's either memeshit or edgelordshit. you pick
Starting to think Burial's going to have, if not as an Ending than as a dead-end/joke, a Demon Siblings ending.The funnier option that is not going to be true is that each route does, as Nemlei says, have two endings - its literally just 'are they fucking or not'
>>521145284>When did you find out/play the game?I played the steamfest demo, then bought it immediately after I finished the demo >what episode was your favorite?3 definitely>did coffin's popularity peak during episode 2 or 3a?2>will the game get more popular with the current episode, or when the full game releases? prolly when the game releases
What does Ashley look like?
>>521147938She was literally 4 years old.
>>521150593Something can be edgy and well written
>>521150593It's indulgent and I also consider it the most well written game I've ever played.
>>521150791Of course, but making parent smoothies is really edgy. To the point of me not being able to take you seriously.
>keeps saying they like incest>no art, fanfic or even greentext of andy and leyley fucking their own kids or their kids fucking eachother with the encouragement of their parentsPosers and pretenders, the lot of you
>>521151025I don't like incest by default I like romantic sex, if it happens to be incest then that's fine
>>521143182>Andrew dropped Ashley on her head confirmed and that's why she's retarded
>>521150891I dont want to go there yet, but theres some real magic in here.
>>521151025You make a good point
>>521141728This is just Ashley repeating what she sees on TV. She has no concept of a dad or mom from real life. Family gives unconditional love, which shes never received.
Since we're all talking about it I find it so unattractive when girls say Daddy. They're never into incest stuff they just like saying it. It's annoying.
>>521151025Frankly I do not care for this. Reminds me of the Loud House autistic OC universe.
I find the game weirdly relatable.
>>521150036Yeah, Renee wasnt the best mom but theres a shit ton of Ashley dindunuffin
>>521151531We're all one sibling or the other on some level.
>>521150036>>521151616Andrew too btw
>>521151463I find it endearing when grown Dominican men call me Papi and tell me to "getdafock outta my store"
>>521144806>>521145321>>521145674Renee has a Class-A bullshit detector. It's what saved her and dad from being trapped in the apartment and getting paid hush money.Renee didn't push Ashley to get a massage parlor job, she wanted a 20yo NEETshley to get a job but no one, not even Mcdonald's would take her high school drop out ass.
>>521150960This sort of shit actually happens irl anon.
>Renee didn't sell Grandma's pendant. She wears it constantly and it's become part of her style.I forgot to post about this here, its cute
>>521148871love this edit of my pic haha i was gonna make an updated pic since chap 3 came out and i got the bitch in the box route but this is so good
>>521150036>Ashley is a monster psychopath at like 9 years oldWhy? Is it because Renee treats her like shit and starves her of the basic attention a child should have gotten at that stage in life?
>>521151972>>521150290Forgot to quote>>521151802It can happen irl? YesIts silly edgy and player for laughs? Also yes. The anon has a pointWhat would the smoothie taste like
>>521152282Oh boohoo, everything is the fault of Renee because she didn't hug her 7 year old murderous psychopath of a daughter. Get real retard
>>521152282Renee herself is a sociopath who planned to murder her boyfriends parents at 14.Ashley being unpleasant and foul mouthed clearly comes from imitating her mom
>>521151772Douglas was a really lucky man
>>521152668>Renee herself is a sociopath who planned to murder her boyfriends parents at 14Not him but thats normal teenager retardation. She didnt act on it like Ashley did to Nina which is what mattersAlso her loving Douglas by definition doesnt make her a psychopath
>>521152573They didn't drink it, they just dumped it.
>>521152893I know but what would they taste like
This bitch keeps getting away with it.
everyday I don't have a fuckable sister is another day not worth living
>>521144123I do find it a little weird neither Andrew or Ashley latched onto anyone outside of their family for parental guidance.>also stopped them from having to much outside social contactI don't think that was the case. They seemed to have a surprising amount of freedom, being able to dick around in abandoned warehouses and whatnot (there was probably still curfew but whatever) and Andrew apparently had birthday parties were all of his school friend's were invited.
>>521151772>O-oh, hi Ashley! I didn't know you work here!>Anyway, can I get uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
>>521153107i wouldn't say them growing to hate each other and abuse each other is "getting away with it", Andrew broke a lock in the bathroom just s she couldn't escape from him.
>>521149281She cooked them breakfast and dinner. Making things from scratch instead of pre-packaged microwave food is how she stayed in budget and made her a good cook apparently.If they had been richer, the kids might have fallen for the Toxisoda marketing like Ashley does and they would have organ failure too... (c'mon Nemlei I know you want to twist the knife here for us buying it for her).
>>521153126Chances are that If you had a sister you still wouldnt find her fuckable
>>521151693When I'm playing the game and think about my sister, I'm AndrewWhen I'm away from the game and think about my brother, I'm Ashley
>>521153159Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the parties for Andrew were just for appearance sake, Renee at least should have understood that Andrew would be able to create friendships even if they were fake so she needed to make him look like he had a normal childhood, whereas with Ashley it was obvious that no one would come to her party even if they did one.
>>521153301Imagine if you get happy cliffhanger ending only for Ashley to die of organ failure due to drinking that soda.
>>521152573>Its silly edgy and player for laughs?It happens while you're controlling Ashley and from her pov she thinks it's hilarious because she's batshit insane.C'mon anon.
>>521152863Ashley didn't plan on killing Nina. Renee clearly would have killed Douglas' dad if she didn't get pregnant considering she sold her own kids
What brand cigarettes does Andrew smoke?
>>521153593NTA but Gramps clearly has it coming
Why didnt Ashley just make a deal with the demon for money and new identities instead of trinket charges? Is she stupid?
>>521153687SlowSuicide
>>521153515we're not seeing Ashleys pov, we're watching what actually happened
>>521153882She uses the demon as a way to satiate her paranoia about Andrew leaving her, not for the good of them both.
>>521153913>soft packCringe
>Ashley is not Renee's faultIt very much is.I'm confused, are these opinions from people that are shitposting because they want to fuck Renee?Douglas is also at fault but at least he's got the excuse of working like a slave with alternating day/night shifts so he's stuck as a barely functioning zombie.Renee is just dumb, she wants to keep up appearances but won't do the bare minimum parenting which sure, wouldn't correct Ashley but would keep her as a 'bad kid' and not the demon she turned into.It would've stopped much of the school teachers annoying her about Ashley, it would've reduced the amount of times shit like the hallway Hag reporting the Graves family.>She's a young mother who doesn't know what she's doingRenee isn't a weak helpless maiden, she's just lazy and incompetent. If Renee didn't give a shit about the social consequences like Ashley then I would understand her behaviour but as it stands it sticks out.
>>521151025but its well established that parent/child is gross, since everyone hates haggots and i dont think ive EVER seen a poster talk about doug and ashleyOC kids are only good sparingly
>>521153458not putting it past Nemmers after the people who said that the incest route was "just a dream!"
>>521153882bitch is shortsighted and small minded.her lack of caring about circumstances and being unable to grasp consequences makes her a very bad planner.
>>521153687The smooth and bold taste of Slow Suicide™
>>521154115Nobody is saying Renee is a good mom, we're saying that Ashley is unfixable. She was a psycho murderer at 7 years old and blaming Renee for how she turned out is retarded.
Did you kill the child?Actually hold up could this be a trigger for episode 4?You have 3 states>kill>keep in car>let him run awaySpeaking of I'm on to something now>Ep1 cash in the jacket>Ep2 cash in the coat in optional are>Ep3 cash off the campers (pretty sure optional)You DO have a save file where you got all the cash right?Andrew needs the extra 333 too probably since he collects the rest of the cash and will need the extra that Ashley split with him.
>>521153915Well you see anon, the narrative white text in the scene is written from the pov of the character you are controlling, which is that case was Ashley.Are you understanding it now champ?
>>521154351I imagine that the happy ending route can be overriden if you were particularly and needlessly heinous and killed the child.as for the money, no idea desu
>>521154494>don't kill child>get happy ending>20 years later child grows up to become a demon hunter and takes vengeance upon the Graves family
>>521154115Of course she was dumb, she was a fucking teenage brat with mommy issues when she had them and never grew up mentally beyond that.
Scenes you'd like to see in future content?I'd like to see something from Andrew's POV when Ashley was born. I dunno if that's him dealing with a preggo Renee, or Renee and Douglas bringing Ashley home from the hospital. It probably wouldn't be much given the ages at the time, but I think it could be interesting.
>>521153882>Ashley>planningAshley is used to dealing with Andrew. Making promises that she breaks constantly and he keeps falling for it. ??? has been quite lenient to bait the hook before setting it. Andrew knows it's coming but Ashley won't listen.Even Andrew gets fucked over when he tried to outsmart ??? with contract terms "without cost". Ashley just hasn't reaped the consequences of her actions yet.
>>521154681you can use that excuse for Andrew but not having another kid after.
>>521154436the scene with the gun had the camera show all 3 characters at the same time, how is that anyones pov you twitterbrain, do you even know what pov means? This is not a flashback, it's a scene that's happening at present. If it was someones pov it would be shown through their eyes you mongoloid
>>521154351that would be very fucked up if so, the save system is about to collapse as is
did anyone else get as fed up with Ashley as Andrew when he came back to find the marshmellow roasting?
>>521154997spit the lemonade out my nose at that scene, I love her so much
>>52115432990% of a child's brain development happens by the time they are 5 years old.At risk children like Ashley are 25% more likely to drop out of school, 40% more likely to be a teen parent, 50% more likely to be placed in special education, 60% more likely to never attend higher education and 70% more likely to be arrested for a violent crime.It's a well know and well documented what happens to children like Ashley who are completely neglected by their parents, Renee was also a victim of this and treated Ashley probably the same way her mother treated her.
>>521154653Good luck to him defeating both middle aged Andrew and Ashley as well as their child(ren)
>>521154857There's no gun in the scene where they eat their parents. But you're just lashing out in a rage now so I'll leave you too it, strange decision to play a visual novel but maybe you're practicing your English, in which case I wish you luck anon.
>>521154096He buys the cheapest brand his Northern Euro shithole has, it's not gonna be fancy
>>521155270Hey, at least Ashley avoided becoming a teenage mom and hasn't been arrested for a violent crime.Renee's parenting wins again
>>521155270I knew everything you said, that doesn't change anything. A child that is 7 years old does not become a psychopath murderer from simple neglect. It doesn't work that way. Ashley was born fucked in the head and nothing could have fixed her.
>>521155460You posted the gun scene to prove your point of Ashley pretending she's cool in her pov.
>>521155845No I just posted a random tcoal pic I have on my pc.
>>521154115Renee also works every day. No days off. Her paycheck has to support all of them when the Dad gets fired at least twice.
>>521154115She has Andrew to take care of her and that worked out fine
>>521155479Both of those things are true despite Ashley's own best efforts. Although being 19 and pregnant married to your 21 year old high school sweetheart is perfectly normal. In fact it's basically the best outcome you can hope for.
how to mug?
Douchebag X Ashley NTR doujin when?
>>521155348Ashley is so short-sighted and foolish I imagine it would be extremely easy to get one over on her if you knew what you were dealing with
>>521156313SUN MOON STAR
>>521156556I have to step on all of them to get the mug?
>>521154115If dad actually earned enough for Renee to be a stay at home mom, she might have been able. But they need her income as she can hold a steady job in the shitty coffinverse world.If Nemlei continues to develop her backstory I wonder if we'll find out what she does or if she actually did get her degree. Grandpa doesn't call her out on not having one either.
>>521156313You need red flowers. Two or three of them by the looks of it.
>>521155696Ashley isnt a psycho murderer at 7. At that age death isnt even understood by children. Ashleys nonchalant reaction to learning that someone she had a petty gripe against is dead is actually extremely normal.
>>521146656Of course idiot>>521156313I don't think you can get the red flowers you need as Andrew
>>521156556Come Nerevar, friend or traitor, come.
>>521156245I honestly was surprised that despite everything, Ashley's opinion on romance was oddly wholesome and sensible, she was ready to grow up for him.Alas, Andrew had to botch things.
>>521156614You have to engage with the tiles in that order otherwise you'll end up stranded
>>521157006in the puzzles, where you flip the eyes and gain the stones, each island has a red flower.grab them.
>>521156782This feels like setting up an insanity defense for killing the campers and those three college students. Maybe the cultist girl can be fairly blamed for getting her own soul stolen since she was prepared to do the same thing to other people though?
>>521156782no anon, seeing a dead body and not reacting is not normal. I actually saw a dog get hit by a car and die when I was young and I had nightmares for days
>>521157020Glad I wasn't the only one
>>521155696She was not a psychopath or a murderer. She tried to get revenge on a bully by locking her somewhere scary and it accidentally resulted in her death. Ashley clearly did not understand the concept of death and didn't realize the consequences of it other than it was bad.Andrew did though but that's another story
Just glad theres something somewhat resembling a somewhat good ending in "shots and such"
I genuinely believe the evil entity is Leyley and the big demon is AndyAndrew and Leyley are different personalities and entities
>>521157579I dunno, it looks like they're a couple of fights away from accidentally killing each other
>>521157579If Andrew and Ashley are both permanently drunk, it'd be a perfect ending
>>521157651I don't think it's literal like that, but yes, Lord Unknown and ???? represent them, and the regression they can succumb to.
>>521156234It all fell apart when she tried selling her kids' organs to a perverted killer
>>521157579Even Splat! is a better outcome than Shots and Such.
>>521157404"Come Nerevar come, friend or traitor, come to the heart chamber I have something to show you. Kagrenac's tools? Who cares about that shit, Nerevar, I found this obscure indie game, and let me tell you Nerevar, I have never lost so many gallons of Ashen cum to a mongrel Imperial woman before. As you know Moon and Star, I've had a long and storied life as the Lord High Councillor of the First House of Dagoth Ur and the Supreme Patriarch of Red Mountain, and I've seen so much Dunmer pussy in my immortal time that it's lost its effect on me. There are only so many Ashen Vampire magical orgies a Dunmer can attend before he starts wanting something more... intimate, Nerevar. I've never met someone as power-mad, insane, and utterly callous as myself Nerevar, not even that whore Azura is as unhinged as me, I'm like the Joker Nerevar, you know who that is? Anyway, there's this Imperial named Ashley, and oh my gods Nerevar she's perfect, she's everything I want in a woman Nerevar, crazy, hot, and utterly devoted. I stopped giving two shits about that stupid Akulakhan bullshit once I laid eyes on her Nerevar, that was just the godlike equivalent of some nerd's stamp collection anyway, who cares about all that Divine Metaphysics stuff when you can have divine sister pussy? Did I mention that there’s this guy called “Andrew” as well, he’s literally me Nerevar, well actually we have nothing in common at all but I like to self-insert, you know? I am now retroactively mad at my parents because they didn’t provide me with a crazy hot sister, I might in fact turn the use of Keening and Sunder instead to the purposes of making myself a Yandere imouto, you know what that means Nerevar? No? Whatever, listen, I need you to go to one of those filthy Imperial cities and find the creator of this indie game, I’m to have them marked by the Heart so they can continue to make visual novels for me for all of time, Nerevar. Go and do this for me, I beg of you."
>>521157901>Andrew kills himself because he's afraid he'll continuing hurting Ashley physically and mentally>Ashley who still has hope that things can get better follows him because she'd rather die than live without him despite still wanting to live The more I think about it, the more splat is just fucking depressing
>>521158195could be worse
>>521158385I'd rather Andrew just get put in a box
>>521157579Im just surprised Nemlei had the balls to put them in a sexual relationship and kiss on screen. My greatest fear was that the burial vision was a bait and switch and nothing would actually happen
>>521158195I thought Splat was a kinda silly meme ending until anons pointed out how Ashley looks scared. Now, it breaks my fucking heart. Andrew is finally happy and carefree as he falls towards the Earth, yet Ashley is totally terrified of dying but just wants to be good for Andrew
>>521157372Ashley is desensitized to violence from seeing gory movies.
>>521158195Splat is better because we know that hope is false. At least this way they aren't hurting each other or anyone else anymore, which is all they'll ever do.
>>521157874thats a 23 year run right?pretty good for a woman in her 30s
Holy shit /calg/ is accelerating. The last thread might've been the quickest bump limit yet.>>521083414I'd either send Douglas's dad back in time or Burial!Ashley.>>521102075>NTA, but I always treat anything an author says about their own work as a big pit of liesNemlei is a Finn and therefore more autistic than anthropologists can reasonably study. The Finns have a saying "there's only one way ahead". Usually you can convince anyone of anything or to do anything with enough charisma, but not Finns. Finns are the most stubborn people on this Earth where even if one is up for anything they will still flat out refuse to do it if it's not part of whatever mission they're on and there's no budging. They're also incapable of lying. People think the Winter War was about a small country bravely fighting for their homeland against 20:1 odds. It was none of that: they were just too autistic to understand what a threat was and pathologically said no to the Soviet Union's ultimatum, and weaponised their autism to slay half a million Russians in the snow.Nemlei has sisu and NEVER changed her vision since 2023.
>>521159093At the very least, Ashley's first and last time having sex isn't rape
>>521159320She didn't enjoy it and only did it to have him avoid killing her.He was too drunk to be coherent and.
>>521157874She didn't try to sell them to organ harvesters. She went into that meeting with the Surgeon with the intention to get compensated for damages caused by the water company.
>>521159276Okay Nemmy I believe you've said enough. Isn't it time you release Episode 4?
>>521159552Shots and Such is a better ending than splat as long as they're both constantly drunk. The sex is amazing and they're more honest with each other
>>521157651I remember seeing a theory here that Andrew's wild swings in personality were LU taking control due to Andrew making a deal for LU to come out in exchange for eating the vegetables. But aside from marking him to meet him when Andrew "hatches" all LU does is make him eat the red flower veggies which we don't know does to him. So it's not demonic possession as LU doesn't really remember him. Maybe he does have regular old non-demonic multiple personalities. Choosing Andy and Andrew does drastically affect the way he acts. Sometimes he does do stuff extremely out of character. Dissociative identity disorder/split personalities can develop out of mental trauma as a way to cope or escape inner conflict... and there is plenty of that in Andrew's life. We even see the mental blocks he put in place to stop remembering what he did to Nina in one of his dream puzzles.
>>521159735They also continue fightinng and abusing each other, and one of them may kill the other one day.I mean, there is some, faint, slightest hope that like, a couple of years into it they'll try to change, but it doesn't seem like that.
If Ashley was born a few years later playing Pathologic would have fixed her
>>521159840A really good movie would fix Andrew right up
>>521159840Not to mention Ashley still killing random people with ???. They're a menace to more than just each other.
>>521160649The cultists are dumb anyways
>>521159276>Holy shit /calg/ is accelerating. The last thread might've been the quickest bump limit yet.What was it, 5 hours? I remember the Episode 2 launch threads blitzing past at 6 hours.
>>521134269Today I noticed Julia changes twice in this puzzle, the first time her hair gets tied, the second time she opens her mouth. The hair is easy to miss since it's pretty subtle.
>>521159276We even have women and fags posting here again, but that's not a good thing
The writefags still haven't returned, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Was ashley secretly a cuckquean watching andy fuck julia? she's staring outside her window in the dream
>>521161609This. If Dumbassley and ??? can trick you into giving them your soul you get a Darwin Award.
>>521160059Pathologic seems to attract the most mentally ill women and I don't know why, it's a boring game
>>521159320>Ashley's first and last time having sex isn't rapeIt was, she was the one raping him. Unless you don't count feeding someone drunk and forcing them to go along with you as rape for some reason.
>>521162926It isnt. next question
>>521156467andy literally had cuck fantasies and anons think he doesn't get cucked in andy route
>>521159276No seriously, what the fuck is going on in Finland?
>>521162926If you think she raped andrew you're unironically a broken cuck. People have sex while they're intoxicated. Mistakes happen. Slip ups even. Not everything is rape despite what sexless prudes on reddit say, you can regret giving consent but you still consented. Andrew was ITCHING to fuck his sister for years let's stop pretending otherwise.
>>521163276Finland is one of the gloomiest places in the world. It's gotta do a number on the psyche to be in such a sunless plaec
>>521163254>fantasyThat was a nightmare and he immediately got up to put an end to it.Andy isn't Japanese.
>>521163307What do you call Andrew saying no WHILE drunk, and then being angry about it once he's sober?
Do you have mild regrets over sex? you were raped
>>521163552It's not that Andrew regretted agreeing to sex. He never agreed in the first place
>>521163471andy is still a weirdo for daydreaming about getting cucked
>>521163474I call it giving into his dark desire despite having mixing feelings on it with a woman HES KNOWN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, a woman hes KILLED FOR, you think he feels raped by Ashley? lol that was the least horrible thing she's ever done to him
>>521161609It's not just cultists and stupid people summoning demons. She got those people standing outside the room on the sidewalk below.She never cares about hurting innocent people and she has no problem murdering them afterward to eat them for power.
>>521163686I'm starting to think you're Japanese.
>>521163727>you think he feels raped by AshleyWhat are his negative feelings about having fucked his sister, then?
Decay so far is basically 99% Andrew focused, we get a lot of insights into his psyche and how he experienced his life so far, but we've seen basically nothing from Ashley. Do you think that's what Burial is going to be about?
>>521163431>Finland is one of the gloomiest places in the world.*happiest
>>521163276I need to move there.
Stick.
>>521163727>you think he feels raped by AshleyYes
>>521163940yeah, after the first poll for 3A's release nemlei gave us this drawing.>Moral Decay of Andrew Graves
Andrews internal struggle with being in love and wanting to fuck his own sister is incredibly painful for me to experience. I feel like I've been pulled right back into that hell hole of a box I used to live in. I wish to bash my face into a wall until I forget it every happened in my life.The writer is fucking on point with this shit.
>>521163992Doesn't it also have the highest suicide rate?
>>521164108Stickley
>>521164343>>521163992Finland is the world's happiest country because all the sad people kill themselves
>>52116434338th
sometimes i feel like ashley really wants to keep andrew to the point she'll think about him so low that he wants to have sex with his sister as she was his girlfriend. you have to understand that ashley doesnt exactly understand social norms because she was never been raised properly. this plays off a huge role because he's the only person that actually understands her and her twisted desires .
>>521163918Regret for choosing to fuck his sister after attempting to kiss her for the 500th time?>>521164143CG unrelated to anything sexual
>>521164732Andrew himself said he wanted to fuck Ashley, but not "like this". He wanted it to be special and Ashley took that away from him.
>>521164732The actual copium you guys are on to jump through so many hoops to avoid saying she raped him
>>521164732>CG unrelated to anything sexualThis is absolute copium>he so wanted it bro that's why he was saying "No", "Knock it off", "I don't want to", "We should stop", "Not like this", ect like a bazillion times and then wanted to fucking blow her brains out after
>>521164343Not when adjusted for age. Older people kill themselves because they live so long they get old age diseases and their culture abandons the elderly.
>>521164854He regretted the sex, this is the only truth here.But for literal fucks sake, at some point the edging in a relationship has to end. Ashley did what he to be done and got andrews little turtle to come out of it's shell. I'm proud of her.
>>521165165Based for supporting Ashley rape but cringe for denying it was rape
>>521165165He literally said he wanted to fuck her. Just not in those circumstances. Andrew said no, get over it.
>>521163276What Number 1 education in the world does to a country. And everyone hears constantly on the myriad of reasons why finland succeeds but there is legitimately only ONE reason why Finland is so advanced in education and that is banning of private schools which makes rich people invest in actual schools.
>>521165165he only wanted to fuck ashley who's horny for himshe wasn't horny for him so he refused and got sexually assaulted
Whether it's rape or not doesn't matter.Forcing yourself on someone is maybe 1/10th as serious when done by a girl to a guy. The world isn't equal and people who pretend it is are retarded.
>>521166253Idc it should be equal under law
>>521165820I don't understand
what the fuck is this sequence meant to be?
>>521166628He's lusting for ashley but using julia as an outletHe doesn't really love her she's just useful and doesn't make him feel like he's doing completely wrong despite the fact all he feels is pity
>>521166628it meas that Julia gives the most god-awful toothy head
Sometimes when I'm driving, I like to imagine Julia is in the passenger seat next to me. We banter about something we saw earlier that day, or she'll help calm me when I get road rage. Yesterday, I was listening to some heavy rock music, the kind that screams about death. I imagined looking over and seeing her slightly concerned face and pantomimed giving her hand a squeeze and I smiled. I love her so much
>>521166628>makes her tie her hair to make her look like Ashley>gets her to suck him off>doesn't look at her face so he can imagine it's Ashley>meanwhile peeps on Ashley showering and changing because he only loves herIt's to show he was a scumbag horny teenager.
>>521167064tulpabros..
Did Andrew get Julia to paint her nails like ashley or am I reading too in to it?
I've never once considered abusing women before.But Julia seems like she's begging for it, and I have no idea why.
>>521167290The reverse actually, he said painted nails are trashy and Ashley stopped painted hers
so andrew is just in denialgot it
>>521167356This but every female in the game
>>521166253Some heavy incel energy in this post.
>>521167356Shut up Andrew
>>521164608What the fuck is going on in Lesotho?
I already miss comfy /calg/ with threads that last a day or two...
>>521167815It's just a phase, my dear. It'll pass
>>521166628It's meant to be cringe.
>>521165165>at some point the edging in a relationship has to endLike hell it does, the Andy dead end shows us that he can be normal.
What the hell was her problem?
>>521168001There's nothing wrong with reaching a wider audience, the issue is appealing to it (which this game doesn't do). Prove me wrong.
>>521168341Her mom is an even bigger cunt than she is, apparently.
>>521168383You have to hear their shit takes.
>>521168001i still remember xittertards posting screenshots from episode 2 and calling it an incest gameoh how i miss when nobody cared about that game besides this general
I can't get over how much of Chapter 3 can be related to Fake Plastic Trees. Andrew really has spent his entire life being a fake plastic person in his relationships with Julia, Ashley, and his friends. He's chained by a true desire to be with another person, but his inability to admit that to himself has him doomed to his plastic purgatory
>>521169034Even before that, kid Andy wanted to study so he can disown his family and move who knows where.
>>521167641>post holds an opinion that provides more benefit of the doubt to women>dude, that's kinda incelYou just blow in from Reddit? It's not that hot of a take, outside of certain extremes a woman "raping" a man doesn't carry nearly the same gravity. Men and women are different at a fundamental level.
>>521168787Like an anon here thinking Julia spread the rumours
>"Kids, I'm sorry."How would they react?
>>521169468While 99.9% speculation based on a one-off line that only vaguely alludes to the possibility, it's not unreasonable to think that she *could* have been spreading the rumor.
>>521169584Andrew would superficially accept it but not actually believe her or care even if she did mean it. Ashley and her would devolve into a screaming match.
>>521169584>"What for?"
>>521167641Kill yourself my man
>>521165698intredasting
>>521166502Why? Men only really feel raped if a homosexual assfucks them against their will and even then we laugh when it happens in prison because as we all know there is such a thing as deserved rape.
>>521170684>t. booty warrior
>>521170684Ashley raped Andrew, but he deserves discomfort because he's a piece of shit
>>521170769No, he doesn't deserve enjoyable sex. He even told Ashley to kill him a few times.
>>521169878>it's not unreasonable to think that she *could* have been spreading the rumor.She did nothing wrong!
>>521169584Sorry for what?
>>521170943>he doesn't deserve enjoyable sexThe sex was apparently lame
>>521171039Ah yes, now that I think about it a teenaged girl would NEVER engage in gossip about another girl, especially when she perceives her as competition for a guy she likes. I'm not saying she did it, but saying she could not have done it is dumb given a lack of evidence to the negative and barely viable evidence to the positive.
>>521171147Unless he has ED, it has to be slightly better than rubbing one out.
>>521171331Not really. Masturbating is more erotic than bad sex
>>521171214My Julie is an angel who would never!
>>521171632Bro she literally wished Andrew and Ashley were rotting in hell. Mind you Andrew wasn't exactly a pillar of warmth and kindness, but that's hardly "angelic" behavior.
>>521171831>Bro she literally wished Andrew and Ashley were rotting in hell.how the fuck is she wrong about that
>>521171875Not saying she's wrong, but that's not angel behavior.
>>521171831That is the correct attitude to have towards Andrew and Ashley.
>>521171831>Bro she literally wished Andrew and Ashley were rotting in hellOk but they deserve that
>>521171904God sends angels to quash the wicked
>>521171952whatever you say, bro.
>>521171904angels don't have to be endlessly permissivethey can bring righteous judgment too
>>521172003It's not whatever I say, bro, it's what the fucking Bible says. They are warriors.
>>521172114Okay
History will vindicate Julia
>>521163940Probably, all the flashbacks we get this Episode are pretty damn important, so if Burial really shares "NO content" with Decay, it'd make sense for Burial's version to be from Ashley's POV since she's the one kind of on the back foot after Andrew's sudden attitude change.
>>521172139the Bible is free. Read it faggot
>>521164152Then the other main route will be The Burial of Leyley?
>>521172247I don't know why you're getting so pissy at me, really the argument I was making is that Julia very well *could* have helped in spreading the rumors, that's a completely reasonable take.
https://x.com/Ducks3n/status/1910090345301569687
>>521172247>the Bible is freePffff, don't talk out of your ass. Bibles are pretty expensive paperback if you want a specific version, even finding a free pdf that didn't have any viruses took a lot of digging.
>>521172312>The Decay of Andrew Graves is the story of Andrew being unable to cope with his new reality and tearing apart the lives of those around hum>The Burial of Leyley Graves is the story of Ashley learning to grow into a better person and saving the life of her and AndrewWould actually be pure fucking cinema. Nemlei is one of the greatest writers of all time
>>521172440>search kjv>first result is a free website you just click on>second result is a free website you just click on>third result is a
>>521172153It already has!
Ashley reading this book before jumping Andy's bones
Nemlei...
I got the balcony suicide ending, how do I avoid it? I'm sure there must be more content but I don't know where I went off track
>>521172785don't shoot andy at the end of chapter 2pick Andrew not Andythose are basically the only choices that matter
>>521172729Finnish ESL, prease understandu>>521172785Find the ring in the forest after you dodge the cop at the gas station. Alternatively go back to Episode 2 and either magdump on the hitman or don't shoot Andrew in the dream.
>>521172785Find the ring in the moving rocks puzzle area. Or go back and don't shoot Andrew in the Decay vision to get a completely different game track.
>>521172785#1 Get the ring in the woods behind the gas station and do the same route#2 Don't shoot Andrew in Episode 2
>>521172729perkele
>>521172785>how do I avoid a happy ending
>>521172862>>521172867>>521172902God damn it. I wish this game had a Detroit Become Human style timeline so you can jump back to any divergence points without having to redo a bunch of shit.
i wish the chapters were separated in the main menu, i'm too tired of searching for specific save file just to redo the part i need
>>521173123Yeah for essentially being a VN with extra steps it could use the same QoL that's become standard for VNs, but oh well, RPGMaker moment.
>>521169584>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>521172729Didn't know Renee was English
>>521172692The way she tries to be the best hussy she can be and completely fails does make me feel some type of way
>>521173689She's the cutest little retard.
>>521172729The game takes place in north england, confirmed
Did Andrew suffer any domestic physical violence or was it all verbal and mental abuse?
>>521174253Grampy Graves busted out the ol' beatin' stick.
>>521174253If we can believe Douglas (and I don't see why not) then he says that they "don't raise our children that way" or some shit to grandpa
>>521174253If she was threatening to beat him when he's 13, I'm sure things escalated and she's at least slapped him once or twice.
>>521174253Andrew makes a comment that grandpa beat him on at least one occasion after Leyley fell off the front yard swing.
>>521174253Grandpa beat him up, and it's why him and Ashley stopped using the yard swing
And I will walkDown to the endWith youIf you will comeAll the way down>With me
I wonder if Burial Ashley will think it's her fault Andrew becomes an unrepetnant psycho murderer and she'll be blaming herself for having him stoop down to her level and miss his attempts to reason with her
>>521174757The more time passes the more this ending makes me sad. Why'd they have to be so cute in that CG. Poor Ashley.
Happy lil' sneedler
>>521174793I don't see why she would feel guilty, if anything she might be worried that he could in theory kill her with the ease with which he was butchering the parents. Why else would he keep her around? Clearly he doesn't even like her!
>>521174814It's sad because despite everything literally the only thing Ashley has wanted is Andrew's love, and the moment she gets it isn't a moment of triumph, but rather one of defeat. I'm going to be real, I think the entire conflict in Decay feels fairly contrived, and I say this as someone with a sister and both of us were giga neglected AND were pretty cold toward each other for a while.
>>521175128She thinks of Andrew the best, including calling him a gooey marshmallow, she compartmentalizes shitty things he does as her responsibility, and as such she doesn't think that what they do is in any way his responsibility.She sees him moan and complain and then it's on her to make him feel better, it being both a power play as well as her cope that it doesn't reflect poorly on him.However, distant and casual Andrew with what they're doing in Burial unnerves her because now he acts like she does, and it's not what she expects of him.Ashley is fine with seeing herself as a bad person, but not Andrew.
>>521174814Yes, we actually feel bad for Ashley despite having fill view of how manipulative, venomous, and evil she really is. She has the ambivalence of a child. That one expression tells us that even though she doesn't want to die, she really doesn't want to leave her big brother either. Even after being brutalized, even after being roped into ending her life, Leyley still loves Andrew. And that's the problem. Leyley does not need a lover or a husband. She needs a big brother. Somebody looking out for her best interests, which does not been bending over backwards for her childish whims, or giving into the pathological lust plaguing Andrew.Andrew needs to take control and guide Leyley into becoming Ashley.
>>521175249to be fair, he tried to murder her, there wasn't really much going back for them, unless Ashley sprung up on her best behavior, he just gave up on everything and gradually his restraint disintegrated
>>521175294>Andrew needs to take control and guide Leyley into becoming Ashley.And then fuck her the way Ashley wants.
>>521175294Cliffhanger will hopefully make that happen with Andrew apologising and stop pushing Ashley away
>>521175249I mean a lot of plot beats in this game are at least a little contrived, but it's the strength of the character writing that makes up for it. It's easy to go "just talk lol" but then there's no story.>>521175294Exactly, it's just sad to see their dysfunction reach one of the worst conclusions it possibly could.
>>521175396Maybe! I thought the same thing during my analysis, But i don't think Nemlei would make a "golden" ending with that premise. We'll see.
>>521175543I dunno, previous Nemlei works have demonstrated Nemlei does give her characters their version of a happy ending, like where Thiu marries himself.
>>521175543There's no point if there's no "Golden" ending, suffering without catharsis is just wank and nothing Nemlei has made indicates to me she's enough of a hack to make everything pure misery. Frankly I've had enough doom-and-gloom subversive bullshit to last me a lifetime.
>>521175430>>521175543Andrew reflecting on things in Shots and Such makes it clear that the "Andrew grows up, then helps Ashley grow up" part of this is true at least. Maybe they won't have sex in that route but they do kiss and openly call themselves lovers so I wouldn't exactly rule it out either.
>>521175430The question is, do we trust LU to help heal Andrew's mind? What will the price be? Andrew's number one goal is to protect Ashley. He cannot sacrifice his identity or his freedom for this (as we saw what happens when he does in another ending). Andrew needs to be The Man. Not in a sexual context (perhaps not yet), because Leyley is still mentally and emotionally a child. It's a real masterpiece we have here. Thank you, Nemlei.
>>521175635I didn't say there was going to be no Golden ending, I said it wasn't going to be one where they are having sex. Speculation, obviously. How can we know? We can't. All is in the hands of Nemlei...And Lord Unknown.
>>521175840The way I see it, LU represents Andy's ultimate regression.Andrew is someone who grew up without a parent, and LU is that parental figure he's never had, someone for him to kill Andrew for and become Andy.At the cost of losing his feelings for Ashley.
>>521175983Sex is an important part of romantic love, there can't be a true happy ending for them unless there's sex because it's the ultimate expression of love and they ARE in love, whatever else they are as well.
>>521175983Physical intimacy, and Andrew's fear of it is why they are in a rut now.There's no real avoiding it if they are to actually grow up with each other.Personally, I think it'll come down to them starting an actual family and resolving to be better parents than their own were.
>>521175038
>>521176241Sneed
>>521175038>>521176386Leyley's S____ and F____(Formerly Andy's)
>>521176025Yes, though I think you mixed up Andy being the one who is "killed."In the cliffhanger, Andy is already dead. Andrew realizes his lust for Ashley is purely pathological. Above all else he is a Murdering, Lovesick Brother. Would losing lust for Leyley be a heavy price to pay? Would Andrew feel no attachment to her at all and completely abandon her?And why do I feel such pity towards a pair of fictional cannibals? It has to be magic, surely.
>>521176471>And why do I feel such pity towards a pair of fictional cannibals?Because they be cute as fuck.
>>521176471Nah, I was intentional with what I meant.Andrew refuses to be Ashley's Andy.But Andy, to him, is more or less a yearning for a do over, a new lease of life, he always thinks of starting over.One thing that Andrew has been yearning for and missing is a parent, and Lord Unknown is that.And what is removing his feelings for Ashley, that isn't killing his own personal agency and growth? isn't it killing Andrew off, only leaving Andy?Also, Andrew doesn't only call his lust pathological, but his attachment to her in general, he still is yet to realize he is IN love with her, he still sees her as his daughter and a problem to fix, not a girl who is in love with him.
>>521176429Leyley's Sandy and Fandy?
>>521176095>>521176204Wishful thinking, but I do hope you're correct. The fact that Andrew *also* wants to terminate the pregnancy (sorry Audrey!) shows that even if they are both adults, a family may be out of the question. However! Nemlei throws a little tidbit during that ending in which Andrew subconsciously defends the idea of procreating with his sister stating that the kid would not have anything wrong with it because there is no history of inbreeding in their family. This is immediately trampled when they both still agree to termination, but it also may be a breadcrumb to a better reality for them in which it's Andrew and Ashley who are having a child.
>>521176580>>521176471Being cute/attractive goes a LONG way in whether or not people are sympathetic.
>>521176829Don't forget that she terminates pregnancy in shots and such, when she absolutely does not feel safe and securre with him, and has regressed to fully becoming full Leyley.Ashley, the girl she can grow up to be, is open to the idea of marying Andrew, starting a family is likely the next step to that.
>>521176580I just can't feel anything cute about this couple after 3A. I just want Ashley to escape.
>>521176681Do you think Leyley is "in" love with Andrew? She pointedly states that her faking romantic devotion is a manipulation tool on multiple occasions throughout the route. I'm skeptical on this one.
>>521176759Sounds like a dingy shop that you'd find on a boardwalk.
>>521176927Leyley will never leave Andrew. Ashley might!
>>521176386>>521176429
>>521176951The problem with taking these thoughts of her at face value, is that currently Ashley has mostly regressed to acting like Leyley, who mostly thinks ni terms of controlling and manipulation.Ashley and Andrew used to have a lot more of an honest dynamic with each other and they talked about a lot of things, and when he explained to her they're growing up and he has his needs too, she found it gross(honest statement), but after thinking, she wantd to have a talk with him, admitting that she would like to elope with him, grow up for him, but then he coldly and rudely pushed her away, and it very obviously broke her heart.if Andrew doesn't really want to see Ashley, then she'll retreat into being Leyley.Ashley is IN love with Andrew, while Leyley is mostly concerned with keeping him around.
>>521176759Seysey and Feyfey*
>>521177345Her aura in that scene was incredible.
>>521176829I just don't see a happy Andrew and Ashley ending in Burial. An Ashley would notice that what Andrew wants isn't what she wants. Andrew is destructive because it's in his nature. Leyley is destructive because she thinks it's a necessity for securing attention (from Andrew). Burial takes away that necessity and gives us a very calm Ashley, and I don't think it's coincidence that this version of Ashley gets knots in her stomach seeing Andrew's mask slip.
Also, weird thing I noticed yesterday. Some songs from the OST of Raw Danger (kids, look it up) actually go really well with TCOAAL.Particularly "Music Box" "Funeral" "Reacquainted with a Friend" and "Cobwebs"bthe last of which feels really fitting for a Leyley Wins theme.
>>521177129Exactly. That's how I see it as well. And in the cliffhanger Andrew will realize that Ashley is his whole life so getting rid of his feelings will make him a vegetable himself. He can finally be honest with her once he is with himself
>>521177504I think I can see her pussy in that pic
>>521177375Unlike Andrew she feels nothing but catharsis.
>>521177504>pussy peekBlue board, anon!!!
>>521177443Of course. Burial isn't the happy ending.
>>521177504Is that....
>>521177607The happy ending in Burial is Ashley running far the fuck away from Andrew
>>521177504>AshlussyHRRRRNNGGGNNGNGG I'M GOING FERAL AAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGNNNNNGGGGGG
>>521177504MISTER ADVERTISER GET DOWN
>>521177504Hot mic! Hot mic!
>>521177504>>521177553>>521177553>>521177560>>521177634>>521177674>>521177679>>521177712Looks like I've made a mistake. "What is the charge? Eating a meal?! Eating a succulent parent meal?!!">Looks at Ashley"And you madame. Are you ready to receive my limp penis?!"
>>521177504Just listened to "Cobwebs." You're right. Also sistussy
>>521177876>"GET YOUR HAND OFF MY PENIS!!">"This is the bird that got me on the penis, peopleeee"
>>521178228>>521177876"This is Delphism manifest"
How different would things be if their sexes were swapped?
Guys. Think of good names for their incest baby from Shots and Such ending.
>>521178708Not much. Andrea would still abuse Ashton.
>>521178990Carl's Jr.
>>521178708The story would be rendered fundamentally impossible. Andrew's character and motives don't work as a woman. Ashley's character and motives REALLY don't work as a man. Coffin is a character study above all else, changing something so integral to the two main characters would make nonsense out of the whole thing.
>>521178708It would be horrific since Andrew's superior upper body physical strength keeps things semi-cordial/peaceful between them.Put Ash's mentality in a male body and trap him with a female Andrew then things will get bad very fast.
>>521178708Andrew is male to the core and Ashley is a little girl. Reversing their genders would be shit.
>>521179160>Andrew's character and motives don't work as a womanAndrew's entire character is about avoiding accountability. He is functionally a woman.
>>521179331Well yeah, he was essentially "raised" by a single mom so he's nigger coded and feminine but his dilemma is around sexual urges which is a male character arc. Seme fake, uke body. He's a girly dude.
Does calling Julia at the campsite fuck anything up? I didn't think he'd actually do it
>>521179685Look at how female fans react to Andrew and tell me women do not have a problem with sexual urges.
>>521179331It's actually about the tension between his ambitions to build his own life and his desire to lead, protect, and provide for a cute girl who loves him. His character arc is his journey into embodying that masculine principle.>>521179685Begone tarskin
>>521179709You get a star for it. I don't think it changes anything on the route besides the fact that you need to have wasted the bullets to see it.
>>521179825>you need to have wasted the bulletsYou can just choose not to shoot Andrew
>>521179825Do we know what the stars mean yet?
>>521179902I'll tell you in the next thread heh
>>521179725Women have no self-control though, they're only restricted by their weaker bodies. That's why they act more reserved around men, it's out of fear. In other words if Andrew was a girl lusting over her bratty little brother, she would've 100% started sucking him in his sleep and we wouldn't have a story.
>>521179871Ah, I didn't realize. I only ever saw it in a save where I wasted them.>>521179902They'll unlock a "vision of the future", but not right now because you can only get 7 of them.
>>521179941Women are notoriously good at masking. Andrew is a woman
>>521179941>and we wouldn't have a story.oh, we'd still have a story alright
>>521180030He will never be a woman and neither will you
>>521180194Oh yeah? What do you call this? https://files.catbox.moe/kkkyl3.jpeg
>>521180425repulsive
I'm starting to get tired of you niggas...
>>521180425I dont kow why I clicked that
>>521179196>>521179160>>521179231That's why it's interesting to wonder how it could be done
New bread?
>>521181735I will BUUUUUUURN MYYYYY BREAAAAAAAAAD
>>521181735No. This is the end.
So was Ashley sending those death threats to Julia during their "falling out" period? Its seems strange that despite that they Andrew still continued to defend Ashley as he always had
>>521181735This was the final thread, finally.
>>521182035Autist And Retard in the Final Finale, Finally!
>>521181932>By all means necessary>Anybody else to y'all is secondary>Time ran out and I made up my mind>I signed up reluctantly to this design>I got blood all over, ashes all over>But it's okay, game's over
I will bake at page 9. Expect me. We are Andrewnymous
>>521182168This ending really says it all.When everything is washed away and all they have is each other in their final moments, they're happy. Genuinely and truly happy just being together..
>>521182320remember the 15 minute wait
>>521182024I think it's implied she stopped diring that time and the whole situation made Andrew depressed including the idea of spending his life with Julia because he had long since realized je didn't even like her.Then they resumed after the reconnected, with a vengeance, and its also inplied that they probably became a lot more sexual/romantic now and Andrew was embarrassed by how accurate they were.
>>521182457Ashley looks scared shitless.
>>521182457Ashley wasn't, she was sad and scared.
>>521151025No, you stupid fucking ugly fat FAGGOT FREAK I don't care about incest I care about Andrew and Ashley as characters, and the fact that their toxic co-dependent love is incestuous just makes it hotter because it ensures that their fucked up unnatural relationship is all the more lonely and reinforces the fact that they only have each other in this messed up world. They're two wounded lonely people who grew up in a horrible situation licking each other's wounds and caring for each other and nurturing each other in a manner that can only be described as the purest form of true love. I don't want to see your fucked up retarded ugly OC characters having sex with Andrew to fulfil your masturbation-induced normalfaggot stepmom stuck in the washing machine tier anime fetishes, you pathetic loser freak. I want your fingernails ripped out, and then I want your skin flayed from your body, and then I want you dipped in salt and your eyes pecked out by birds as you writhe around in agony, and only then after you admit what a HORRIBLE FUCKING POST THIS IS and you apologize for it will I allow Mexicans to behead you with a dull knife cartel-style to put an end to your miserable existence. Fuck you.
>>521182587>>521182589Good.
>>521182785Absolutely based post
>>521182785based
>>521178708Fem Andrew would just be Renee 2.0.
>>521182859t. Julia
Hussiemaxxing
>>521182785Kino post
>>521180425>>>/Lgbt/41%
>>521182975What about if Ashley was the first born and like many eldest siblings was the write off and Andrew would be the one they do a "good job" raising?
>>521180425HOT
>>521182785juliasisters in shamble
>>521177129It's tragic how he dated Julia to avoid the rumors of sister fucker, then realize he really wanted to have a relationship with Ashley Raising her from very little, who would want to give her away just like that. It's not fair. SHE BELONGS TO ANDREW
Fuck fixing Andrew and Ashley. How would you make them MORE fucked up?
>>521183568Meth
>>521183568poke a hole in andrew's condom so he knocks up Julia then have Andrew killedAshley will have nothing left of Andrew but his newborn child, and of course Julia would have to die once she was no longer needed
>>521182785>I don't care about incestThen why do you play the incest game?>their toxic co-dependent loveBut they have no love for each other though, at least not romantic. They're both psychos incapable of that kind of love. Best you're gonna get is lust.
>>521183568Have one of the siblings physically handicap one another, just to make them more codependent than they already are
>>521183736Filtered porn addicted retard
>>521183714Andrew accidentally knocking up Julia would make for an interesting AU.
>>521178708Before 3A? I would love the game more. After 3A? I wouldn't be able to find Andrea sexy anymore
>>521183862Cry about it. Andrew's one argument away from killing her at all times and Ashley sees him as a replaceable toy. They're both very sociopathic.
>>521183568Just like beat Ashley alot in front of young Andrew, maybe molest him a little on the side I guess.
>>521184134If you are looking for an incest fix then Coffin is simply insufficient on account of Andrew being a psychotic piece of shit. I love this game despite it going against my incest fetish
>>521184230Same, this game is the kind of stuff VNs don't do, but only that stuff.
>>521184134You're the one crying about it
>>521184269>>521184269>>521184269>>521184269>>521184269>>521184269Sisters are angels
I don't understand specifically fetishizing incest.I can understand not seeing incest as a barrier, but to be more turned on because it's incest is just weird.
>>521184285>>521184230Holy cope! Coffin has hot ryona incest.
>>521184396People who hate Ashley disgust me.
>>521164152>>521172456Didn't she say burying your problems isn't good though
>>521182785>FREAK I don't care about incestfake fan