Previous: >>520555852>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ>Where can I watch the cup?https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html>Upcoming Cuphttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Spring_Babby_Cup_Qualifiershttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Spring_Babby_Cup>Upcoming InvitationalsDon't be>Wiki:https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page>Booruhttps://isthisliv.com/booru/>Other videoshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos>PES Infohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017>Previously/4ccg/ on /sp/vtl numbersspring logo
Dicksword is down, I need melties in the thread STAT
>>521243225works on my machine?
>>521242958BUT CHUDDHA WHAT IF
>>521243225Dicksword is back. There is a melty in my ass
>>521243434Fug, now I have become the melty
he got banned for posting cp no surprise
>>521243651teambros, we're back on top
>>521243847who
>a minor technical issues
>>521243945So you don't know?
>>521243651>need mare manager
>frog poster
>>521243982this is the funniest fucking frog I've ever seen oh my god
>>521244087many are saying this
>>521243651>keeeping whole gen fat>btw run sex long stats>literally melty general /4ccg/
>>521244026afraid so
Are there currently too many autopilots and is it a legitimate issue?
>>521243651>finals managers already aithe /gd/ autopilot is winning, pack it up boys
>>521244469No. 50:50 auto to manager ratio is the perfect ratio.
>>521244469If anything, there are too few of them.
>>521244650>>521244682xd
Autos are boring
>>521244469I can farm free wins off them all day so you won't see me complaining
>>521244740maybe on planet retard.
>>521244732Glad you agree.
>>521244826It's true. They can't change shit, managers that aren't retarded can beat them most of the time and they aren't particularly strong on 17
>>521244469Outside of giving teams with nobody who wants to BE a chance to be on the pitch, is there any value to them? They will never win a cup (again) and they don't actually offer interesting matches (read: shouldn't but many managers are retarded) except against other autopilots, but then you can immediately tell how the match will play out anyways.
>>521244946Sounds like /admin/ should hire TMA to do all the autos.
>>521244946>They can't change shitThat's not an inherent issue with autos, but you're right that their pastebins should be made a bit more dynamic.
>>521245061TMA's league is mostly autos and you can see by the declining audience it is mid.>>521245319For example /o/ shouldn't be eating shit at second half because there is no one at the wheel to turn off the auto mentalities
>>521245484VTL8 had the highest finals viewership since VTL2
>>521244469I don't think the idea of autopilots is a bad thing, I'd rather them not existing but I can live with the fact not every board can find someone willing to managethe issue is that I associate autos with dogshit low effort teams no one but /admin/ wants to see around, like /xs/
i hate autopilots cause they make me think i can test my way into a guaranteed win
>>521246483It's kind of weird /tg/ and /toy/ have gone so long without anyone BEing
Using the +1/-1 auto-mentalities in the 4cc save < hex editing the save to get +2/-2 auto-mentalities < using simple controls to change auto-mentality levels <<< copying Morocco's tactics in vanilla 17 and applying them to your team to get meme -1/+1 auto-mentalities
>>521245592having phase connect and hololive in the finals will do that
Kancolle > Azur Lane
>>521252947Project Ceris > anything el... wait development got cancelled and it was a scam. DAMMIT
Strike Witches > All other military franchises
>>521253284For me, it's the America's Army series.
>>521246483I'd be open to a rule treating autos as temporary life support for a team, you can have an auto for a year or so but then you have to find a manager or the team goes on hiatus for a year, it would be a fair way to cull down these zombie teams that truly nobody cares about
>>521245319Autopilots shouldn't have pastebins at all
>>521253284I do like me some witches
>>521253934Autopilots shouldn't exist at all
>>521253483>it would be a fair way to cull down these zombie teamsKilling autos with tons of PoI in favor of managed teams which barely get two replies on their PoI threads isn't the solution for that.
>>521253934Why?
>>521255268which autos have tons of poi?
>>521255010I am fine if a team needs to be an autopilot for one cycle in case a manager gets busy, but any longer than that no
>>521255607I don't know, but I would expect /toy/ and /tg/ to have a decent amount.
>>521255662same. I really came around to simply hate the 4cc because of the sheer amount of corpse teams in the cup
>>521255268>tons of PoIThe autopilots in Spring are /toy/, /vrpg/, /int/, /o/, /t/, /xs/, /n/, and /gd/. The only ones there with any kind of interest are /toy/, /vrpg/, and /o/, and /o/ still needed to find a thread from Winter because they didn't have any interest before Spring.
>>521253284No one likes mid witches
>4cc """POI"""
>>521256284I can't remember a single time where 4cc POI was denied
>>521253284I like Operation Flashpoint
>>521257057used to happen the last time we had a good commissioner (lear)
>>521257193Waiting for the "but /w/ tho"? Which is the only argument against Lear. Instead now we have like 6 teams like /w/
i wonder where's is the anon who post chubby umas?
>>5212591412bzgoonin
>>521259141Punched to death
>>521259807It's literally ok when Frump does it. He just has a grand plan bro just wait for it...
>>521259807where amogus
baseball's on, too busy to bump the thread
>>521263178did he died?
>>521259141of course the fatfag is a 3rd worlder
I'm going to Arisu
>>521272973
>>521259951This but unironically
i should BE and host an invitational for all the dead teams. get the teams all set up for 17 and then grab a random fan from their respective boards and use that to drum up interest and possible revival. unfortunately i am too busy being retarded for this noble venture
>>521278769I'm a fan of a dead team that I could set up for 17
>>521280448Which one
>/4ccg/ says /jp/ only has so much 2hu because Manager FC>open /jp/ and >30% of OPs are 2hu
>>521285686no one says this except the local angry /vt/umors tho
>9
>>521252947Gameplay doko?
>>521285686>/4ccg/ says [team] only has so much [thing] because Manager FCtechnically this is always true because managers have the power to interpret how their board should be represented. at any point they can change that, which you see occasionally when active boards change managers, and there's nothing /admin/ can really do about it unless a mass of fans complain. and even then there's no guarantee they will do anything cough cough old /a/.
Daily reminder you can run ANYTHING on PES 17
>>521244469I hate them but they're free wins for me>the way to shit on the /twg/ auto in 23 was to play wide against their narrow formation>no one played wide
>>521247361>/tg/considered it but I decided 4cc isn't for me, would rather stick with VGL
>>521302470even 2-2-6?
Mephitis-kun where are the poll results u dumdum
I've never played gacha before but could a 4cc lootbox simulator tied to football work? Something like fantasy football but you have random drops for 4cc players that can have different rarities (regular, bronze, silver, gold, others maybe) then that's your team. Players have a finite lifespan to them so you're periodically cycling through players and formations according to what you have.
>>521331698There was a guy who made a gacha roll simulator for vglel teams one time a while back
>>521331698Could it work? Yes.Would anyone play it? Maybe.Will anyone do it? No.
>>521331698just pulled a SSR+ shiddy from the VGL banner
>>521333165Last 10 pull with my remaining rigbux and I pulled a fucking SSR Fuck Luigi.THIS THING IS FUCKING USELESS! FUCK!
>>521336976will /bag/ have iShowSpeed on their team after what happened in china?
>>521332712Yes and vglco chased him away because he can't stop talking about gook audience. Good riddance I might say.https://perchance.org/4ax3n1t3lk
>>521336976>Blue Archive and Steam>ZZZ and XboxInteresting times
>>521301351/admin/ wouldn't do anything even when /vt/ anons were pitchforking for AnAme to be removed.
>>521340470a manager not putting your favorite streamer on the team isn't grounds for removal
>>521340652t. AnAme/vt/ anons still hate current management, and want towa gone even though he wasn't responsible for the situation.4CC threads are deleted on sight in /vt/ now because of him. The gameday threads were never deleted until AnAme turned himself into a lolcow.
>>521340894Then they should be the change, and also suck it up about threads getting jannied like they do on almost every other board
>>521343623AnAme is directly responsible for the threads getting jannied.
>>521340894Sounds like SEA monkey behavior
>>521340894i like towat. /vt/ anon
>>521340894>4CC threads are deleted on sight in /vt/ now because of him.because a janny's favorite tumor wasn't added to the roster*
>>521344351Rather the threads just get deleted than pander to the jannies
>>521340894>everyone that disagrees with me is Namefag I don't like that I am obsessed with
>>521344351>>521344585>implyingno they are deleted because AnAme made a lolcow of himself and pissed everyone off.The last 4cc thread to not get pruned on /vt/ was the one where Sou posted in to respond to /vt/ anons.
>>521340894and now Taba is a /vt/ manager
>>521345049What did he do?
>>521346249iirc he was accused of rigging a roster poll
>>521346174Boards get the managers they deserve
>>521346482I can't wait for the inevitable crash out from him when either>eliminates /vt/ and sends them to the Autumn fetus>/vt/ get a new best ever record this spring and tries to take all the credit and then gets called out for it
>>521346387So it really is about "my wife isn't in the team"
>>521347407taba will do the same thing just with his whore instead
>>521347407It seemed like AnAme knew exactly who was levying the accusation and had a sperg moment at him which lead to his sperg moment being turned into a copypasta.
>>521347501You should hold him to the same standards as AnAme then because Taba is just an awful choice for manager
>>521340894I don't think people dislike towa, he does a good job with the team
heres your /vt/ Manager choices>TMA>AnAme>hlggdivegrass>Taba, by virtue of being friends with hlggdivegrass and liking Vtubers>Cipher, by virtue of being friends with hlggdivegrass and liking Vtubers
>>521348145Absolutely grim lineup
>>521348145even the Grim.oire doesn't tell tales this Grim.
>>521348145/vt/ will never have an /mlp/ or /u/ run where everyone that hates them is more confident in the team's victory than the team's own fans with this lineup
>>521347407it was more an argument about catalog bait being put on the team rather than vtubers or even other chuubas.
>>521353889>catalog baitwhat does that even mean
>>521353987Any thread that isn't a general and uses bait terminology like "phase cuck", "nijiseethe", "holodrone", "/vt/ sisters", and the like.
>>521348145TMA is better than the rest at board relations so he wins by default.
>>521354375you /vt/umors need to blow your brains out asap I don't give a fuck about this
>>521348145They are a huge board with an entire league for themselves with many managers, how is nobody else willing to manage /vt/?
>>521354601Then why did you ask for clarification.
>>521354748because I thought it might be an actual real issue with the manager and not somebody acknowledging what a board is (entirely cancer)
>>521348145JB and Myuer will unretire to put a star on the rrat any day now bros
>>521354871They unilaterally removed reps from the roster for ones that did not even win in the poll they did.
>don't understand a board at all>instead of trying to understand it call everyone there a nigger, then pretend you do
>>521348145how bout Managerless takes the seat and i never have to see them again
>>521355849But what if I understand that everyone on the board is a nigger
>>521355849>call everyone there a niggerthey clearly understand /vt/ perfectly
>>521356464
>>521354375Do you think /vt/ should be composed only by things generals want or reps by generals and not board culture then? Why not just use the VTL to pick the team at that point.
>>521355849>>521356517This is a guy who hates /vt/ falseflagging but I'll still let it affect my perception of the users of that board and vtuber fans in general
>>521356645Because /vt/ complained that would make vtl too tryhard
>>521356645/vt/ was accusing AnAme of making the team just whatever VTL reps he liked.It's an issue of Polling and board relations.
>>521355849who are you quoting?
>>521356854god forbid people try to win a competition, huh
>>521357256It's called having fun.
>>521357315and what if for some having fun is trying to win a competition?
>>521357315oh yeah I forgot winning isn't fun
>>521356854That's nuts. Mediocre people have convinced themselves that trying to win doesn't make things fun somehow
>/vt/fags have conditioned themselves to enjoy losingkekaroo
>>521357659who are you quoting.
>>521357534/vt/ is entirely mediocre people, you'd have to be to browse what is effectively a female eceleb board
>>521357730>>521357315
>>521357926None of the words you wrote are in that post. Who are you quoting?
>>521357730>>521357991it's an implication arrow, not a quotation arrowlearn the difference
>>521357091I bet nobody there even remembers his name anymore
>>521358362They did a year ago.His lolcow moment is still a common copypasta in VTL threads.
>>521358495But you know he's out of the game now, so why are you still letting him live rent free in your head?
>>521346482It's funny how true this is.
>>521337405>those goldsWait a second
>>521346482>Blinky
>>521346482trvke
>>521346482>Boards get the managers they deserveI don't know if this is flattery or an insult
>>521374581In thee case of Taba and /vt/ it's an insult
>>521374581It's simply a matter of fact.
>>521348145The JB+Twain dream team will save /vt/
>>521370186Modern /a/ deserves worse
>>521376764Okay Crimson
>>521376764Okay Blinky
macaco
>>521378510uma delicia
Banan
>>521378510
>>521376764Modern /a/ is having success, so if this is true >>521346482 you are wrong.
>>521348145This is false considering I've seen the /vt/ saying he would take anyone as a new /vt/ manager.
So, who's going to miss the aes deadline and get bonked?
>>521388292me
>>521388292My money is on the troons.
>>521388292/vg/
4CC striker for this feeling. Hard mode: Not Rance.
>>521389669>manlet>looks autistic>number 10It's messi, just ignore him not being a striker at the moment
>>521388532but /u/ and /lgbt/ are in babby proper
What makes a good team history and which teams have the best history sections?
>>521389669any striker on /c/
>>521394560It's all manager fanfiction
is there any reason why not to run all my forwards as dummy runners
>>521395505dummy runner is a mediocre playstyle on 17
>>521395505go ahead, nobody is stopping you
>>521395505People will call you a dummy if it doesn't work.
>>521395505Go ahead I need the easy wins please or I'm finished
3 dummy runners up front could work since centering targets removes any need for playmaking
>>521398551now I want to try this
>>521398551>centring targets and 3 194 cm players up front (2 silver and 1 77)Gaming time.
the raped
>>521402006is this true?
>>52140143292 silvers as well, this could legitimately work
>>521402275tallboi silvers get a stat nerf but it would be interesting to see CT with 2 tallboi 88 and a tallboi 77
>nerfing your silversLmao. These fags acting like they discovered fire with CT
>>521401432or you can just use golds
>>521402760Golds can't be 194
>>521402760But I need the height abuse.
>>521401432you're gonna regret it very hard if you don't run a gold forward
>>521402160afraid so
>>52140287999 rated 185 jumps higher than 88 rated 194
give me the track back redpill
>>521403079track back is the high test card that makes your players actually go for the ball instead of being PUSSY FAGGOTS and running away from it
>>521403079nobrainer when you had a bazillion cards since it gives free goals
>>521403079It's the card you use when you want a player to be objectively better at defending
>>521403079just fuck with the save so your guys actually press when they're out of possession
>>521403079PES defenders are brain dead and you want your medals to go chase them to make mistakes.
>>521403079track back is the anti-offense card which drags players out of position and you put yourself at a coin flip of either winning a high press and scoring or losing with 0 goals
Running the red height rules? Consider making your Goalkeeper 175 cm tall so you can buff their stats.
>>521402981But he's 7ft tall? How can someone like him get raped?
>>521404897very carefully
cipher causing a MASSIVE nomo melty in the 'cord
>>521406838>it's fake
You really think somebody would do that? Just go on the Internet to talk on Discord all day?
any post talking about a "'cord melty" without an accompanying screenshot depicting said melty is gay and therefore fake
do your dailies on the wing looking for girlsex can she get past bricked
>>521407426yeah
>>521407698I laughed
>>521407838Why does gio still exist
>>521407838i thought nomo was a ponyfag. why does he have a anime pic
>>521407838DenKWABchi has been getting daily melties about gacha shit.
>>521407965to live in your head rent free
>>521408320>rent freeI only remembered that faggot due to the screenshot but I'm sure you can get attention somewhere else
yes but have you all considered this?
Nomo I know you are here, get kwabed by Cipher nigga
>>521409518hi cipher!
I'm a kwabberI'm a sobberI'm a midnight jobber
>>521409558If I was cipher I would've signed my post with an Essex image
>flags will totally bring in more namefag drama>0 namefag drama in the /sp/ thread>look inside flagless and very anonymous /4ccg/>constant name calling
>>521409889Really makes you think who said there would be more namefag drama if we had flags, Almost as if the people who do nothing but constant namefag obsessing want flags the least.
>>521409889no one take me serious because of my flag so fuck /sp/
MELTY IN THE 'CORD, MELTY IN THE 'CORD
>>521409889>literally no SEA fags posted in the /sp/ thread or argentiniansNooticing
By this time next week I'll be posting in the /sp/ game thread.
'roonsoup 'elty on 'ccg
>>521408041>forgetting his legendary tenure as manager of /c/ and /a/
[Happy News] Doro has been successfully potty trained
>>521409889The circlejerker fears the flag
>>521411961t. troonnysoup
Any extensive, spoonfeeding, handholding help to start my own divegrass team?The wiki fucking sucks and basically tells you>/DIY/I checked the discords and they are dead, and DMing strangers is scawy...I'll even write a proper guide for future anons if you oldfags teach me everything (I won't, but pretend I will).
>>521412367Do you want to start managing or something?
>>521412367what are you having problems with?
>>521412367what league
>>521412460>>521412521I want to make a team from scratch for a general that doesn't have one yet.I don't know how to make mods, basically.
>>521412749VGL? Join their main server, ask the green names for help, or publicly even
>>521412749If this is for VGL just walk into the discord there is a channel with tactics talk and one with aesthetics help. Near September there is also a tournament for new managers that you could join. If it is for VTL I have no idea how that place works but you can probably join their server too. I would be glad to help but just posting on 4ccg might not be enough if you are completely new.
>>521412967>he thinks there'll be another NTCKWAB
>>521413090>not believing in troonsoup graduation tournament
>>521412749If it's /vg/ league just join their discord and ask in aesthetics help
>>5214127492d or 3d game? If your game has models already then aesco can help you with aesthetics. The main thing you need to do is start with basics like getting thread interest, coming up with a roster and making a wikipage. If you need models made out of thin air then its a bit more complicated but we need to know more first
>>521413090It was probably roonsoup posting, what a loser.
>>521412367>>521412749Which general
>>521413553Please let us know so we can brigade your thread and poison the well, it's very important
>>521413553/funkg/
>>5214131953d game, the models are already ripped.I can touch them up with blender, but that's also WIP, since I need to figure out how to 3d model as well.>>521413553N-not telling...
>>521412367Whatever you do don't tell us which general. Just tell the commissioner or something. You don't want a raid.
>>521413732what a faggot, I just need to know if I have to hate your team or not
>>521413732Yeah if it's VGL they'll help you out
>>521413732If there are existing models the organizers are able to handle most of the work to get them working in PES if you point them in the right direction and ask nicely. Worry about getting interest from your thread and polling done for now.
>>521413907>>521413943Thanks anons.
But I'm sure /mhg/ already had a team
>he looked up the MD5spooky stalker...
>>521414129Wait to ask thread until tomorrow though, because actually collecting interest doesn't count until then. Just DM commissioner in the meantime. If it's another gacha then please don't bother>>521414269based detective
>>521414350kek what an obsessed faggot
/chess/ when.
>>521414519inb4 it's another gacha
Retard should've just used another image, if anything he's a fag for not saying what his general was.
>>521414776they had a roster and everything, it's time
>>521414829>if anything he's a fag for not saying what his general was.how else would he farm for (you)'s?
What are the upsides of Forward Wingers and downsides?
>>521418658Think of them as an SS but more specialized for wide attacking and less versatile otherwise
>>521418658>upsideswidth>downsidesdoes nothing that you can't make SSs do and are much less flexible
>less than 24 hours until the tictacs deadline>general full of tictacs questionsReally gets my noggin joggin.
>>521419523I'm glad that these managers are trying to make an export that doesn't suck. There's nothing worse than a manager who thinks they'll be the one to reinvent the meta their first time managing.
>>521419651Their untamed imagination is full of soul, the advice of jaded managers is soulless.
Will Jack Black be /mmcg/'s new gold
>>521419651Hey man, my one cmf two amf 4-3-3 with wing forwards I made when I was a newfag was kino
>>521419901/ksg/ vs /gig/ was two brand new managers using their untamed imaginations, and I would not call that soulful
>>521420460That game was many things, but you can't say it wasn't soulful. Also I thought /gig/ was an auto from the council.
>>521420460>vglInherently soulless.
>>521252947YesBecause AL doujins are all vanilla slop
POI is legal now you can fuck it
where s4s aes
>>521422405more like [s4s] ses
combine 4cc vgl vtl for more fun using vtl rules
>>521422405HE MISSED DEADLINE, GET SES ASS
>gura is graduating
The stoppable force of my 99 in all stats goal poacher vs the immovable object of their 77 in all stats center back
>>521424753hope it is true so that I can laugh at Beebs(and Nomo to some extent) for cutting short that one episode of ASS just because that retarded bitch started streaming so suddenly
>>521425292I don't remember that at all
>>521425449not a true ASS fan then?
>>521425548I remembered they compared their viewers to Shondo
>>521424753wtf is this real??
I can't believe Beebs just said hololive is to him what those COCK SUCKING KEKOLDS AT FIRST FUCKASS are to him now that Gura is leaving check the 'cord
>>521425642I'll give you a pass then
which team has a chicken jockey?
>>521425642if theres a gawr vs shondo debate, shondo is better now she has that cute pyjamas model with bare soft bellyfuck that model is so good
>>521431104Thank you 6letters
>>521425642Why does Shondo hate women so much?
>>521435996hot
how many gigs of Symptons porn does Alphys have saved and which character is there the most of
Just asking, is it possible to be pregnant with twins and have them be from separate fathers?
>>521440883Aoba, you cheating whore
What's legally wrong but morally right?
>>521441594Killing Sou
>>521441594Gas chamber all yuriniggers
>>521441923You've got that backwardsLocking Yurifags in a confined area and farting on them is legally permissible, but morally wrong.
>>521409889It was quite obvious who some of the non American flags were but nobody brought it up.
>>521446219Because that's schizo behaviour
>fun added /vg/ league friendlies
>>521420460/gig/ was a godawful council auto nyagger, /akg/ should honestly switch places for qualifiers with /gig/ for it
>>52145402317 autos are bad apparently, please understand
>>521448358I don't care about friendlies.
Archive bro can you add the /a/ penalties and last game from Winter cup Feb. 8, 2025
Archive bro can you add Autumn fetus. Without chat is fine.
>>521440883yes
Archive bro can you make me a sandwich
>>521420460What about the /mjg/ manager? He's also new.
>>521462673>he
>>521462673/mjg/ were pathetically bad in his first VGL.
>>521462837Didn't qualify on the second one either. Invitational andy
>>521463153Because they were ROBBED by /vn/
>>521462837I would give the benefit of a doubt since xer first time in VGL was being a caretaker but that was also an era where a caretaker can submit an auto but the one /mjg/ cooked made a rule change to ban caretakers in submitting exports.
>>521465524A rule because of how bad it was that is, also because of /dng/ I think
Archive bro I have some 4cc lost media, please add them.https://gofile.io/d/ZxfyTV
>do poll>disappear the next day>don’t upload aestheticsRIP mephitis 1492-2025he was dumdum but he was our dumdum
It really was the 9/11 of 4CC.
>>521472229Can't believe big boss has long hair now and taking some estrogen drug to look like a femboy.
>>521465524It was more to stop people like Kara tricking newbies into running garbage like LB CB RB
Guess the scoreline
>>5214759641-2
>>521476324nah
>>521468520is /u/ going to be the 2nd plane in summer?
>>521476573/u/ just won VTL so probably
>>521477097myuer doesn't even run justice.
Where's the last akkolel archivebro
>>521478334You know the rules
>>521478476And so do I
>>521478532A full commitment's what
>>521477286so you don't know
>>521477286/u/ managers are the secret cabal behind VTL
I received a vision in my sleep that revealed to me that /c/ beats /lgbt/ in the spring final. Will try astral projecting myself into Sou's to verify the script.
>>521481018
this is worse than the time my neighbor was grilling inside his apartment
>>521481496>>521481018>/c/ winning a cup
>>521486372Hey, they've made an elite final before.
>>521486636and lost to /u/
>>521486372>tis merely /c/Which big market are they going to eliminate this time?
/vp/ will win the fetus
>>521487515*the coathanger
>>521487481/peedubya/
uhhh otp, is it good? or is it wack? 3 cards max is fucking with me. I've gotten too used to the card spam recently
>>521490037There's a bloke from round my hood who rejects everything to do with cards.
>>521490037many people consider otp a must on defensive playersit can also work well with long ball expert if you're running that on your midfielders
>>521490375He just chill at home, tests his own home grown, and check this - he don't have a super-sub.
>>521491243His Gold is a Double A though.And that Double A is a product of cards.
>>521490630thats what I've always thought too. but how defensive is defensive. I want my amfs to curl into the cf/ss, but still be able to make regular plays as well. and heel trick is heel trick, gotta have that. so is otp better than weighted>>521491308no he aint got no cards, you can check out his spreadsheet
>>521491487AYYE AYYE
>>521492330has testing, made our lives better?
>>521491487medals will still make combinations without otp, i'd put it on medal cmf/amfs though, medal wmfs maybeotp on centre backs has always been norm, probably cmfs and dmfs as well. weighted synergizes well with otp so if you want a playmaking midfielder otp+wp+lbe does the job. if you have to choose either or though i'd say otp on defensive players and weighted on attacking players
Surely if i just change a card or two, maybe up the SR? The formation isn't bad i've seen it work! You know what i think i just rolled a bad seed on PES, restarting it will make my tactics work
>>521495871surely more testing will lead to better results
i'm a professional gooner
>>521496769>paid to be an Arsenal fancould be worse i guess
>>521497007Aryansenal is /4ccg/'s choice of team.
>>521497060/lgbt/ maybe
>>521497276>gaygoonersAs opposed to straight gooners?
>>521497923I don't get it.
>>521496769I'm tired wobbie
>>521497276KWAB
>>521480549That's why it is shit I suppose
>>521497276Which of one is Ramen?
>>521497276completely sane and safe
>>521504357the fat and balding oneholy fuck this captcha
>>521507364GAYJ
you should be able to trade a playstyle for a card
>>521510553why so many defensive GK
>>521510724offensive GKs can actually make mistakes on 17
>>521512759they make mistakes on every pes THOUGH (except /lcg/ and /u/ keepers)
>>521513408on 16 they succeed like 99% of the time
>>521513626Yes, PES16 has the most successful goalkeepers, that's why its famous for its low scorelines.
>>521513931it'd help your argument if you knew what offensive goalkeeper does
>>521514216Says the gamer word.
>>521513408/u/'s keepers were dogshit in Winter though
>lav BOASTING about ignoring the wishes of his general on the 'cordGrim.
>>521515968Screenshots or it didn't happen
>>521516217
>>521516439Generals get the managers they deserve
>>521516652KIDBLTD (Kek It Do Be Like That Doe)
>>521516439really does make you wonder why toki quit managing
>>521516439>>521516135
>>521510553>speeding bullet >Long ball expertwhat memelords
>>521517786It's a good thing any negative posts regarding VGL teams get instantly disregarded
>>521517786Why do schizos that hate the cup have to talk like some of the biggest asshurt faggots possible and act like everyone agrees with them?
>>521519939Why do you assume everyone who dislikes the cup is a schizo?
>>521520743all the jannies dislike the cup, so there's significant overlap
>>521520743Ok then correction, why does everyone who dislikes the cup act and talk like some of the biggest asshurt faggots possible to the point they look like a schizo?
>>521516439Why does he feel the need to always post about how much he uses the general only during sign up season
>>521516439Which one of you fags posted this on my general
>>521523101me
This is why you shouldn't be attention whoring on discord.
>>521520901They don't ban it on /vg/ though
>>521523596they'll figure out a way soon. Believe me they're trying
>>521524019Maybe they should try harder?
>>521523101It was MEHI did it like THISWhoop dee doo
VGL teams like this?
>>521526898/gbfg/
>>521526898/lcg/ when they spoon their hosted vgl
>>521374581/vst/ didnt deserve pilky desu
Why are the gold medals of my opponents gods who can dribble around an entire defense and go 2 vs 6 and my gold is a heat seeking missile that locks onto the first defender it sees and tackles into him?
>>521530346It's your fault regardless of why
>>521530346Should've been using tiki taka
>>521530346sounds like someone has speeding bullet + LRD
>>521531771Speeding Bullet + Mazing Runner
>>521531998kekaroo
>>521521721t. nooticer
I was invited out to karaoke with some irl grils next weekend. I'm nervous, what should I sing
>>521526898/pmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm/
>>521534517The /b/ anthem.
>>521534517takyon
>>521534517/sci/ or /i/ goal horn
>>521534517Doomrider goalhorn
>>521534517I STAPLED TAPEWORMS ON MY PENIS
>>521534517/his/ victory anthem
>>521534517/jp/ victory anthem
>>521534517https://youtu.be/V2V-p0apSRA
>>521530346I have a feeling after running multiple tests in a row, the game knows what teams you like and just ups the other team's abilities while stealthnerfing your team. There's absolutely no way why every game it takes 2-3 people to disposess their nonmedal while your gold gets brushed by a feather and he crumbles.
>track back on every outfielder>gegen>+1>players still just sit there and watch the other team dance by
>>521538568Do double gegen
>>521538568>no man markingbaka
There's an hour and change to the deadline right
>>5215406191 bong with 4 bings
>>521540619No. 4 minutes.
>>521540619what deadline? no clue what you're on about
>>521540619>wiki timer isn't even working
the dutch created totaalvoetbal, today i created totaalfulvo
What is the chicken jockey of the 4cc
>>521542896chants in general
>>521543008>t.Boris
>>521543008what chant
>>521242958>hey hey people, Sseth here.>today we're going to talk about soccer>"but Seth, isn't soccer made for dirty subhumans from BOTH ends of the hemisphere?">well as it turns out when you put anime babes agaist my little pony creatures, that ends being more interesting than any sport can be>today we talk about the 4cc, this 15 year old event where the most unlikely of boards cobble together the few amount of braincells they have in order to watch cpu vs cpu matches containing something that might represent their autism in the field
>>521542896:yahoo:
I unironically had a dream about my co last night, now I feel sad, fuck this gay earth.
>>521534517final countdown
>double CFel em ay oh Coathanger Generals
>>521544731>he doesn't know
>>521543491was it romantic? :3
>>521542896:shiddy:
>>521534517BITCHES AINT SHIT BUT HOES AND TRICKS
Either eating the chicken or crow. Was too distracted working on hyp and hyp accessories to see the time
>st/i/nk
>no /i/ tactical exportOwar/i/ da.
>>521547362>>521547383DST'ed please post your :akko:s at my expense
How do I run this?
>>521547446:akko:
>>521547527>2019>italianfor what purpose?
>>521547446>DST'ednigga that was ages ago>googles when it happened for the hobbitsfair enough but still :akko:
>>521547527very carefully
/i/ still haven't submitted yet, but save will be out later tonight. Draw tomorrow with either Boris or myself doing a wheel draw.
>>521547446
>>521547824>posted it in the Dicksword before /4ccg/why do you hate us dear commissioner, we have nothing but love for you
>>521547645Good questions
>>521547824Give me 100000000 reasons why longball shouldn't be banned.
>>521547973The fucking timer
>>521548149What's the one reason it should be banned?
*back passes into the other team*
*dribbles right into the defender*
>>521548358It gets in the way of my beautiful 90+' of tiki taka.
>>521548358horsefuckers and polfags made it broken
>>521548641>>521548650So figure out the counter, nigga.
>>521548798strange how that didn't apply to 21's or 19's metas
>>521548936It was retarded then, it's retarded now.
players/teams for this feel?
>>521549164Liru
>>521549164Is she pregnant? wtf
>>521549472yes, she issomehow got an ok from the doctor to play volleyball
>>521549164by me
>>521549164>>521549965This is why I'll never take women in sports seriously. Or in general.
>STILL no formations posted
>>521552125I'll get to it when I can just lemme finish making dinner.
Ok take your bets, which team in the fetus do you think will have the worst looking formation that somehow does well?
>>521552192What are you making?
>>521552192Hey G can you make me a sammich while at it.
>>521552814no
>>521552476/i/
>>521552476ass 4 ass
>>521552814Hey /g/ can you code me a sandwich?
abysmally dogshit posts on the 'cord right now
Mating press
I miss the times when we said hi to Ronery
>>521554087It is a moral obligation to mute Taba permanently, but all of VGLco are bad people.
>>521554087>>521554371what the fuck is Taba posting this time
>>521554087>>521554371What are you complaining for? He actually made a good post for once.
>yuru camp posttrip on taba
>kwab camp
>>521549164??
>>521554371Why can't we just ban him like >Quarterx2
It is always morally correct to spam Taba with mating press
>>521556235nomo has no balls, unlike QD
>>521557408Sou also has no balls to deny him being a /vt/ manager. We don't want him we just want a caretaker to take the results of the VTL and ignore them and add just my wife to the roster in all her outfits for the whole roster
>>521559627who?
>>521559627I look like this.
>>521559693me
Nomo I will take back everything negative I have ever said about you if you ban Taba and don't let him come back
There's nothing wrong with being a woman.
What does Taba do in discord that's so bad that he deserves to be shit canned?
>>521562767You know, you really need a woman, G.
>>521562767What makes you say that? We're all girls here.
>>521552650Chicken and rice with some grilled peppers and a salad. Nothing too extravagant but it was breddy filling. Anyway gathering up the exports now.>>521552814Nyo, that's my overpriced sandwich meat. Go get your own.
>>521562767roonsoup...
>>521563063FORMATIONS DOKO
>>521563063why are you so dumb and stupid?
How do we beat /lcg/
>>521563482SOON>>521563682Years of practice. And microplastics.
>>521563892Since you're herehttps://gofile.io/d/ZxfyTVI miss nazi refs, 11 GKs vs 11 GKs and /jp/'s Autism being /jp/'s Autism...
>>521564315Me too, going for a clip from the 11 GKs vs 11 GKs match last year for the spring hyp made me rewatch a lot of those matches. Sub 50 viewer friendlies be damned they were fucking fun.Anyways here's /c/
>>521563063Y r u gae?
>>52156431511 GKs vs 11 GKs might be the hardest I've laughed watching the cup. I miss that level of wacky shit.
>>521565283No Anon, you are the gays!/f/
>4-4-2, 4-4-2 with different pixels, 4-4-2 with different pixels
/i/
>>521566291I think we know what ban we need for Autumn when 15 isn't ready yet.
>>521566291>formation autismI can give you some cocomelon videos if you get bored
>>521566291First three posted are running 4-4-2, 3-4-3, and 4-3-3 albeit
>>521566325>my rw gf is now a leftistI hate women
>>521566334if the next cup isn't on 21 I'm killing myself
>>521568270actually she's now a shotacon
>>521568465even worse
>>521568278Feels like we'll know what version of pes we'll be on next by Autumn. though we are likely in far two years of 17.
>>521566291>everything is a 4-4-2 if you think about it
/m/
>>521568637It's like that one video where everything goes in the square hole, everything goes in the 4-4-2 hole.
>>521543453he probably wouldnt do ithe was too scared of /ss13g/ when he made the ss13 video to mention 4chan or vgstation directly, though he has refferred to it in the mongolian basketweaver/peruvian weed seller etc forum meme before
>>521568637HE'S BECOMING AWARE! SHUT IT DOWN!
/s4s/
>>521568657The pes19 special
>>521568637sex
>>521568974I'm going to kill myself if we get drawn against this
>>521568974SOVL
tracking back to /mu/ because the captcha shit out on me
>>521568974The export that will abort /vg/
>>521565913Was in the running for dumbest shit in the qualifiers until >>521568974 showed up
>>521568974Preparing themselves for a coathanger, huh?
>>521543453Cup doesn't have enough slavshit obscure PC games for him.
>>521568974Now THIS is going to be the dumbest formation and export that will somehow make final day baffling everyone
/toy/
>>521243651get to it faggots
>>521569312>>521568974It's more like the [s4s] guy just wants to be the spoon collector. We have /vitagen/ at home
/vg/
>>521569530>They forgot to update the icons
>>521569598Forgot?
>>521569665Liz looks bluer than I remember
>>521569530very nice, let's see /vp/'s 4-4-2 with optional 4-3-3
>>521569530The fuck where's the all caps? I didn't vote for this.
>>521569530>lowercaseAnyway I guess it looks standard
>>521569598That's more to do with the fact that I don't fuck with aesthetics myself.>>521569771As you wish your Grace.
>>521549164/bag/
/vrpg/
>>521569908Oh it's the usual /vp/, so people will say either>Wow /vp/ won 2-1, very smart of them to have a highly adaptable export again>Oh /vp/ lost 1-2, once again they tried to make their export do too much
>>521569908the /aog//@/ thing
>>521570078fat with an f a t
>>521570078Did Grok made this autopilot
>>521570078>Human >Male >Warrior is still up front even though the team is now a robotbig thonk
/vst/
/b/ needs this as a kit
>>521570078WHY IS REAN THERE KILL REAN FUCK YOU REAN I HATE YOU WHY IS HE THERE GET HIM OUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM GET HIM OFF MY SCREEN
>>521570641haha... he's having a melty...
With /wg/ that should be that for formations. I have yet to wring the save through AATF. Im gonna finish up the UFC card before I push the save out so I can try to put down some fight bets tonight.
>>521570641Only funny player in this dogshit team desu
>>521570379>Did Grok made
>>521570641/vrpg/ wouldn't be in the fetus if they had more players like rean THOUGH
>>521572205Well?
>>521570379Grok always said to use a 4-2-3-1 so I doubt it
what is this, where are all tryhard /mlp/ copies?
>>521576281We got a cup for tryhards, it's called "Elites". Wait for that.
>>521576281Why would anyone want to copy a longball luckshitters export that only wins because of massive testing autism.
>>521576281No one is able to replicate it. Skill issue, after all.
>>521576826If it's luckshitting, why would you need to test?
>>521577084Either is prohibitive for teams to copy>/mlp/ are huge luckshitters, therefore you shouldn't copy it because you absolutely will not have their historically consistent luck>/mlp/ are massively autistic testers, therefore you shouldn't copy it because that testing made it work and the only team with an equivalent amount of autism is /u/
>>521576281Just copy /uuu/. Same shit.
>>521577282Fair enough
>>521568512God please no I already want to kill myself because of 17
>>521576826Okay, so what elite team's export SHOULD I copy?
>>521577893/pol/
>>521576281The new ruleset nerfs their lang playstyle. Still a pain in the ass to test against.
>>521576281Just wait for the more tactical autism to reveal it all langball
>>521568278Reso...
https://files.catbox.moe/n4zqg4.rarOh yeah I was supposed to do this after I was done watching fights and drinking beer. See you lads for the draw
>>521570516cam on vee ess tee, dont get aborted
>>521590958Which irrelevant zombie team are you rooting for, Sou?
>>521582857*sighs*>unzips dick
>>521591456FOOTBALL
>>521568270>>521568465what's the difference
>>521568974>fumo is a medal nowbabby cup win confirmed
>>521566325Why the fuck are the strikers wingers?
>>521568974>>521603145>nice grill demoted>bury ebil silverwtf
Guess the team
>>521610261[s4s]
>>521610261/vp/
>Green (7)/c//f//mu//s4s//toy//vrpg//vst/>Red (5)/i//m//vg//vp//wg/
>>521613418>not using THAT bracketkekaroo
>>521617731Digging up is the second worst thing you can do after digging down
>>521617731i fucking love stack, bros
How do I confess fapping to toddlercon for the past week to my co?
>>521627801Just drop a picture of it on him to open the conversation
>>521627801you only get a pass if it was Baby Rosalina
>>521629279but /smbg/ caretakers barely talk to each other...
>going to be out when the draw takes placeI hope the vod will be ready by the time I get back.
>>521630426kekaroo
>>521630426'ost 'edia
>>521629998To be fair it's hard to talk to your co when they go out to get milk and cigarettes for months at a time
>>521630426Good one mate
>>521630426Don't worry it will still be going when you get back
MAXMAXMAX
fetus draw
>>521636365Any takes?
>>521636754take deez nuts
>>521636754/vg/ spoon kino is on the menu
>>521636754Only cold takes here/vp/ /f//vg/ /vst//mu/ /c//m/ wins third place
>>521636851with /vst/ in their group?KEK
>>521636945I can say this until the salty run back comes but /vg/ is a bad astroturfed team and if literally they had a single match where they seemed to be a decent team they would be at least tolerable but all they do is shit, cum and be a nuisance, /vg/ is absolute dogshit.
>>521636754A: /m/ & /f/B: /vst/ & /vg/C: /c/ & /mu//vp/ wins the 3rd place blayoffs. /s4s/ doesn't get the rusted coat-hanger by some miracle.
>>521637076fine speech
>>521636365/vp/ /m//vg/ /wg//c/ /mu/Either /f/ or /i/ third place
>>521636365/m//vp//vg//toy//mu//c//f/ through third place
>>521637076I can say this until the salty run back comes but /vg/ is a bad astroturfed team and if literally they had a single match where they seemed to be a decent team they would be at least tolerable but all they do is shit, cum and be a nuisance, /vg/ is absolute doroshit.
/vg/ 9 point domination incoming
>>521636365Easiest 9 points of /vg/'s life
>>521637671>>521638494I remember reading those words...in autumn...
>/wg/>autopilot>/vg/ B teamsurely not
>>521638609That's because it's said for every /vg/ group
>>521638609They have TWO korean medals this time, there's zero chance they don't perform
>>521638721/wg/ has played /vg/ 4 times and won all 4 times
>>521638721/wg/ is really good
>>521638721>/vg/ B teamsorry, but /vmg/ is in the elites
>>521640196/vg/ C team thenjust look at all the new roster additions of /vst/
>>521593085nice
>>521638741As it should be, /vg/ should be considered a favorite for every cup they are in
>>521603145remember to cum on your fumos for good luck they like it
>>521640196ELITE and MUSCULAR /vmg/
>>521640786The /v/alkans have always been glorified VGL teams, this is just them being more honest about it
First time match ups that will happen in the fetus group stage>/f/ vs /vrpg/>/m/ vs /vrpg/>/vg/ vs /vst/
>>521637106>>521636912s4s is making it through, the hat said so
https://x.com/CryingEmojiman/status/1911178047908352111wakey wakey /bag/, time to breach containment again
page 9
>KWA/Bag/opinion overruled
>>521649048those are both dudes
>>521648916what is this zoomer garbage
>>521648916>Sorry but im IndonesianYeah, that checks out
>>521649564you're just old and jaded
>>521649743I would rather be old and jaded than young and faggy
>>521648916>I'm Indonesian>BAYou don't say
>>521649928you are faggy in the eyes of people 10 years older than you. It's an eternal cycle
>/vg/ managers already blaming their non gacha players for their inevitable lossBased.
>>521650375Kino. I would bully those losers too.
>>521650375I'm calling it, Liz will fuck up at the most critical moment
>>521650375why are you talking in plural?
>>521650375hopefully we don't get any more gacha teams
Reso talking about spending a whole week trying to make a CMF good, that's huge skill issue.
we should just close the fucking cord since faggots will leak every little sentence for some (You) farming
>>521651062?Jevil is a CF
>>521651076Is there even a purpose to posting your testing antics other than attention? Well he is getting attention
>>521651076This is going on the kekboard for sure
>>521651270My bad. Well that's easier to build.
>holy shit I cant post a single thing to any of y'allYou should know at this point which managers are behind the shitposting
>>521651287honestly I just want to curb expectations. I hate the whole "we're going to win easily for sure haha" jokes. I'm simply not in a positive mindset like everyone else is after all the continued failure. I won't post anymore. Sorry
>>521651980Who
>>521651980t. roonsoup
>>521648916It's always the korean teams
>>521651980We know it's mostly you, Troonsoup.
It's probably been a year already, why the fuck are you so obsessed over one chatfag?
>>521653093He isn't a chatfag he is a manager.
>>521652007I think all of those posts are people that actually want the opposite so you shouldn't pay attention to it.
>>521653663True, everyone who posts positively or excitedly about /vg/ is actually a falseflagger
>>521652835would love to hear the logic behind this
it was on the news this mroing
>>521657662thanks doc
Who's streaming the qualifiers?
>>521658884You
>>521659065Fine, but I'm rigging it for /mu/
>>521659323That's ok
streakie showing off his obsession over black people on 'cord
>>521658884Most lilkely Blinky.
>>521659875GrimCaptcha: DGAY
>>521659875Grim
>>521659875Bright
>>521659875oh no no no /vg/bros
>>521662058Blonky gets first row seats to watch /vg/ winning.
>>521662297Stop jinxing it
>>521659875Dire
incredible trolling on the system file, Sou
>>521664409what did he do
>>521665368the System File is set to the last cups final boss. So home team is set to all red, away team to all purple + ET and Penalties. If you continue testing as normal after putting the system file in you're getting hella rigged matches
ongoing melty in the /vt/ roster poll thread
>>521668086I expect people to be angry about taba
>>521668086>they're advocating for wrasslin to decide the rosterSou, your response?
>>521668478>don't let something partially random like the /vt/ league decide /vt/'s roster>instead let something entirely random decide the roster>something that isn't even divegrass
>>521664409Whoops, I'll get that fixed.
>>521668917They are so dumb. I mean if they find the wrestling entertaining then whatever but it's really dumb.
I want to have a melty inside a cute manager
>>521670124There aren't any cute managers, they're all fat balding old men.
>>521668478Truthfully, I kinda respect it. Makes no sense to most, sure. And in terms of time required to do something like that. Kind of a nightmare. But if you're willing to put together a roster in 2K, let alone being able to whittle down the absolutely broad horizon of choices that /vt/ has for a roster down to what's within 2K's limits then I'd respect it. The only issue is that /pw/ did it first. Although those were more for Tiebreakers on their roster poll. the other issue I see is that it wont cut out undesired results onto the roster because the WWE games have a mind of their own. And as a result the fans may not be happy with what they wind up with if 2K has certain results come up. Now what those potential results are and could be I haven't a clue I'm just trying to draw a conclusion. In either case , if that's how /vt/ wanted to settle their roster then I'd simply let them. Especially if the effort and interest is there in getting that show off the ground.
>>521670971Anime girls love those...
VGLCW is going to determine the roster now as well. Make the call Denko Turner
>>521671646Wrasslin decides the /vg/ roster, but VGLel decides the rassler's raw stats.
>>521671017pshuuuuu~
>>521671835Welcome back Zero Senaldo
>>521672492Worth it to get Napoopan back too
>>521671646New permagold Totsugeki
>>521671646Permamedals of Clown, Totsugeki, Winds, and Zero Sanity you like?
>>521671646Sounds like a plan to me. Please do not investigate Sport Mode and Simon Viklund's stats when this is enacted
>>521675575>WindsWasn't it Willie who beat Totsugeki?
when will they add /vmg/ to the Group Stage Maker tool
It is imperative that all teams have tightmarked and manmark I CAN'T DO ANYTHING
>>521679117This is of course because he will follow in the trend of /vg/ gold reps doing jackshit so /vg/ silver reps like him have to do most of the heavylifting
yeah, git gud is a washed fuck, he should retire
>>521679443he's /vg/'s only good player for the last 3 years
>>521679443BE
>>521679950What you mean with BE you fucking troglodyte? The only way I could BE is by murdering the entirety of /vg/'s management, VGLco and Sou (and maybe even /admin/) in order to finally get rid of git gud and let another fag get that gold instead
>>521680354Do it fgt
>>521680354Just manage /vg/ pussy
>>521680354Sounds like you need to git gud
>trvke deployed>the 3 /vg/ managers get out of their caves and replynerves have been struck
>>521680354Yes nigga that's what I meant lmao BE
>>521680820the seething shoots have begun
>>521680820bloom status?
>>521668478>copy /vg/ league format>copy /pw/ roster decisions/vt/ is so creatively bankrupt
I miss when we had flags
>>521682215Wait one more week and it will be legal to post in /sp/.
>>521682215I was planning on making a /sp/ gameday thread for the upcoming fetus weekend
>>521682363>>521682445/sp/ isn't in the babbies that shit is gonna get deleted in under an hour
>>521682614Mods said the general couldn't be on /sp/ but threads were allowed.
>cum>no longer feel like women are needed anymore
>>521658884Cipher
If you think about it, getting fetus'd is a great way to deliver a concentrated dose of divegrass for /yourboard/. 3 games in 3 days? Next best thing to making a KO final day.
>>521685803You're right, /vg/ fans should be grateful
https://youtu.be/FTRgdtQGd5M/an/ chant when?
>>521685803One team will get 5 games in 3 days with the possibility of making it to the babby proper 2 weeks after that.
new bread?
>>521686871It's an unbeatable deal! If you can't win a tourney, you should at least aim for fetus.
Quali pape
>>521687929ship it troonzo
>>521688293can you just fuck off and kill yourself already? Nobody likes you, including your own mother
>>521688686100% worked
>>521688686>t.troonbab
among>>521689190>>521689190>>521689190
>>521687929Was Fug so dogshit recently /vp/ dumped him and genned a shiny as his replacement?
>>521689396original Fug was always a shiny
>>521688686Unironically a nerve got struck
