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Dream Guardian Edition

PC trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCfkgaaa08
PS5 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wW4Fdh6zFM

>News:
Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121
Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108
Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99

>Wiki:
https://bg3.wiki

>Mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/

>FAQ:
>Q: How often should I long rest?
>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.
>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?
>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.
>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?
>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.
>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?
>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.
>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?
>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.
>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?
>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.

>Polls:
>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6
>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ
>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA
>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnY

OP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpasta

Previous thread: >>521096875
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Missionary with Astarion
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>characters that did nothing wrong:
other than stealing my heart
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>>521279726
And if she hadn’t, Lae’zel would be a mindflayer. Lae’zel is also a callous murderer and Shadowheart is willing to turn a blind eye to that, so why should I clutch my pearls over some thievery, especially when it inadvertently saved my life and soul?
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>have to design a cute Tav AND a cute dream guardian every time
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>shart saves the entire party
>mintharafag wants to kill her and blames her for everything that ever goes wrong
baka
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>Lae’zel is also a callous murderer
she had no part in choosing her race. shart on the other hand chose to be part of a death cult (yes not attempting to murder the mother superior and run is choosing to be part of it)
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>>521280778
She has Stockholm syndrome from 40 years of this
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>>521280409
In all fairness, Lazy's plan to go to the creche gets you all killed if your plot armor didn't save you. But it's not as bad, since lazy had no way of knowing what she was taught in bootcamp was a lie.
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521280672
These aren't sloppy hours, so your little stunt is once again mistimed.
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>>521280265
I didn’t miss anything. She lies to avoid conflict and protect her own life. That’s reasonable. She means to keep the artifact from the githyanki. That’s reasonable
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futa is so gross. why can't nyl make something normal
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>>521281315
why are toadcels like this
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*smooch*
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>>521280735
Shart didn't save anyone, it was an accidental side effect of having stolen the artifact. One she was on the way to deliver to the Sharrans too, in case you forgot. Accidentally being useful is not a positive point to your character. Murdering party members and lying to people about it certainly is a negative point to your character. If Shart had actually meant to save you, or even knew that she was going to save you, then it might be a positive. But it was a completely accidental side effect of a bad thing she was doing lol.

>>521281169
You evidently did, since you tried to claim Lazy started the interaction, which is factually untrue. She already started the conflict, so lying to protect herself in the conflict she started isn't a positive thing. And giving the relic to you or another party member keeps it in the party but deescalates with Lazy, but since you seem to have forgotten, Shart's goal is to deliver it to the Sharrans, not just keep it away from the gith, so she resorts to murdering a party member. If Shart had said "here Gale, this relic is starting fights about who should hold it, so an impartial third party should hold it", then I would be defending Shart as reasonable. But instead she tries to murder the person who asked her too many questions, and then vowed to lie to the player about it, so I am instead criticizing her.

I get you're trying to defend her but the things you're saying just don't work. Shart is the bad guy in this entire interaction from start to finish. Lazy's only minor unreasonable moment is when she jumps to a duel but even that was after she had been lied to and dismissed and knew it, so her one bad part was a retaliation, not an instigation.
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>>521282091
if you don't recruit her she runs up and saves your butt from the absolute at the gobbo camp. she gets close to your party with the intention of pushing its influence away from you
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this guy wins the most delusional sharty award
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I feel like this entire argument about how the player character would act without metaknowledge, while interesting, is also somewhat arguing for the sake of arguing. Most companions are reasonable enough that you can form an uneasy alliance with them without resorting to violence or murder. I've never really thought, "I'm only keeping this companion alive against my Tav's better judgment because I know they're a video game character with an associated quest and 10 hours of voice acting." You don't really need mental gymnastics to justify sparing even the "evil" companions - with the exception of Astarion.
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>>521282670
True
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i think it's hilarious that the only thing frogfags can come up with in defense of laezel is that she didn't know any better
like literally first thing she does is insisting to leave shadowheart in the pod
then she proceeds to be a complete piece of shit terrorizing tieflings, suggesting to kill the owlbear cub, etc
she is literally worse than astarion
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>>521280672
That's a lot of free bacon.
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but how would you know to rescue shadowheart out of the pod without meta knowledge
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>>521280672
The piglet trying to get away while it's back legs are paralyzed made me feel bad
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>>521282670
You're right that most gamers don't even think about it. They see one of the characters that are literally on the box art or loading screens so they recruit them, no questions asked. They don't even consider the fact that Astarion performs a hostile act against you, Shart is a member of a terrorist organization, or that Lazy is a member of a reaver culture and demands you murder bystanders as part of her recruitment. The average gamer does not think about things like this, because the average person doesn't even have internal monologue when they go through their daily life. But we, as enthusiasts who want to explore games past the surface level, might ask ourselves what your character would do if this was a realistic scenario. It's a fun extra layer that adds roleplaying to your gameplay experience. It's not necessary, as you say, but I would say that it is a fun optional addition.
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Missionary with Astarion
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>>521283695
>you murder bystanders as part of her recruitment
you still haven't explained why you wouldn't side with her considering she's the victim there>>521276596
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>>521283695
>They don't even consider the fact that Astarion performs a hostile act against you
he was scared
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>>521283805
based
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>>521283865
Nymessa and her brother intend to kill her because she's a githyanki, which has a long history behind it. Most githyanki are Evil, who only show up on the material plane to steal your stuff and murder you if you say anything about it. It is not unreasonable to take advantage of a githyanki's misfortune to kill them, given the fact that if it was the other way around, the githyanki would do the same thing. And even if you are not normally a bloodthirsty person, given the fact that githyanki are typically hostile, violent raiders. So there's a reason why the random people are prepared to kill Lazy.

I'm not saying I agree. Race is an ascribed status, unlike membership in a cult which is an achieved status, and it's very sloppy to judge and condemn people for ascribed statuses. You can and should judge someone for achieved statuses, but there are various imperfections to judging people for ascribed statuses. So I personally would not kill Lazy on the grounds that she is a githyanki, but it's not unreasonable for someone who is genuinely scared at the sight of a githyani to do sol. Githyani have done a lot to earn that reputation. It's not unfounded or superstition.

Thankfully, the game gives us an easy and elegant solution in the form of simply scaring Nymessa away. But in the absence of that easy solution, it's difficult to say what a realistic person would do in this situation. Given statistical averages, it's more likely that a random gith is a bad guy compared to a random tiefling, so the safer bet is to side with the teflings against the githyanki, if we're just going strictly by statistical likelihoods.
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unfortunately, it's mid
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>>521284667
but enough about rogue trader
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>>521284507
>Nymessa and her brother intend to kill her because she's a githyanki
Do they? I've failed the "Shoot the trap down and let's kill her" persuasion roll and they say want to take her to Zevlor as a prisoner, not kill her
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>>521284507
Ah, the good old Mintharafag essay about the ethics of (not) siding with [minor NPC], who is so unimportant she disappears from the game after that encounter even if she survives. Always a pleasure.
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where is my astarion irl
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>>521285156
me, but I look like Balthazar
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>>521284507
but having recognized the fact she rescued you off the ship, shouldn't you return the favour of rescuing her out of her situation?
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also its cute when lae'zel constantly uses "we" and "our"

whereas the whore is constantly "me me me"
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>>521285481
how does she rescue you off the ship?
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>>521285030
That is their original idle banter while disagreeing with each other on what to do. Nymessa says to just leave, while Damays says to bring it to Zevlor.

But once you begin the encounter and the conversation continues to what to do, it becomes a choice between which group to kill, if you don't scare the tieflings away.

>>521285068
The ethics of a situation is completely unaffected by whether an npc disappears from the game after the scene. It's utterly irrelevant.

>>521285481
Your previous interactions with her give her credit, but the murder of two bystanders is no small ask from her. I would not murder someone just because it was my friend who asked me. Rather, that person would no longer be my friend, because I do not want to be friends with people who request murders. Forgiving, or participating in evil deeds just because you know the perpetrator is itself a bad deed.

That all being said, I will reiterate that I'm glad the game gives you the option to avoid killing anyone. I don't particularly want to kill Lazy or the randoms. I'm just saying that in the absence of more data, it's more prudent to kill the one who is more likely to be a bad guy, which is the githyanki. Or that it's more prudent to kill the one who is demanding the deaths of the others, rather than the ones who sound scared and want to just leave or kill it because it's scary, which is again killing Lazy. Things are stacked against her in this decision.
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>>521285918
Stop writing giant paragraphs you autist. Nothing you say is valuable as you ignore your uggo waifu's wrongdoings.
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>>521285918
one life who helped me is worth two strangers

>>521285689
plants the idea of going to the helm in your head
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>>521285659
um
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>>521283407
It's full of parasites and isn't even good for dogfood after a big night like this, because you have to get the pig and process it immediately for it to be remotely usable.

>>521284667
>Baby hours
Sweatie... you haven't at least played for 1400+ hours.

>>521282670
Minthara 100% needs metaknowledge to keep her alive, or you can headcanon and just pretend you thought you killed her but she actually survived.
There's 0 reason to not kill her without a thought just like every other enemy in the camp.
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>>521285918
From Tav's perspective, the tieflings are being unreasonable.
The problem here is the dialogue options on offer, not that you have to choose between her and the teefs. There should have been an option to say "I know this woman, she's just helped me escape the dire scene behind us. Allow us to leave in peace and you will have no trouble" or something similar, as a persuasion option, rather than just randomly lying.
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>>521288353
A good Tav just running around with the knock out passive always on is totally possible.
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>>521288353
one time i accidentally spared minthara because my finishing blow was a pommel strike after i missed a mainhand swing
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>>521289373
I hope you left her in the act 2 dungeon
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>>521282091
It’s ok. You’re set in your view and that’s fine. But I stand by what I said
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>>521289653
i ended up manually killing her when she was knocked out because i didn't actually intend to spare her
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>>521289884
Yay
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I guess I shouldn’t be surprised a namecel missed the point this dramatically, but the player is clearly expected to side with Lae’zel. The tieflings want to kill her BECAUSE she is githyanki, and you probably want to keep her alive DESPITE that, likely owing to your recent experience shared together. There is NOTHING “prudent” about killing a battle sister that claims inside knowledge about the threat endangering your life for the sake of two stupid, ignorant bystanders. It’s not as if Lae’zel demands you kill them, she asks you to “get rid of them,” BECAUSE THEY ARE THREATENING HER LIFE. She just fought with you against eldritch horrors and is a willing, and useful ally. Why in the fuck would anyone with an IQ over 80 think the “odds” are stacked “against Lae’zel” in this situation, I have no idea. Who in the fuck thought “You know, these npcs have a point.” when encountering this situation? How dumb is THAT player?
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>>521280237
ai yai yai
yuckeroni
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Retard Tav recruiting Gale, recruiting Shadowheart, long resting 3 times before the grove and staking Astarion, killing Lae’zel in the cage, and quitting the game before reaching Dror Ragzlin
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>>521295156
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>Nymessa: I don’t like you. Die!
>Lae’zel: I know of these parasites. I know how we might be purified.

Seriously guys, what do I do? I know Lae’zel is on the box art but I want to make the choice that makes sense for my character, in the world. I know not everyone thinks that way but it’s very important that I immerse myself. I’ll spare you guys, but upon reflection, Nymessa has a point. I think, logically, the odds are against Lae’zel. Or I mean statistically. The data is on Nymessa’s side. The numbers are in, so to speak.
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>>521296275
they weren't planning to kill her tho
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>>521296275
I always make the tieflings leave so Laezel can't go chud mode.
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>>521289880
It's not a matter of view or perspective. You were just wrong about who started the fight. Shart has the gith relic which is what sparks the question, and instead of answering the question Shart lies to Lazy's face which is the first bit of animosity, before that Lazy is asking questions. It's not really up for interpretation.

>>521288616
>>521292998
No they're not. Killing a githyanki when you see it because you're afraid of it is not acting unreasonably. Once again, some aspects of the larger setting are at play in this situation and you're leaving them out of your view. When in doubt, killing a gith or a drow or a duegar is going to be correct in the lion's share of situations, and the bystanders find themselves alone in the wilderness with a gith. They're actually acting with extreme prudence to simply kill it. It would be imprudent not to. Your aversion to this fact is probably due to it seeming simply racist, but in this setting certain races gain certain reputations because they actually act certain ways pretty often, and gith are actually one of the more consistent examples. Githzerai wear different clothes and have different hairstyles specifically so they stand out from githyanki at a glance, for this very reason. Looking like a githyanki is an easy way to get a crossbow bolt to the chest from the town guard tower before you even get to talk, because of how githyanki usually are.
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>>521296852
I stand by what I said because you don’t seem to understand what an argument is. Your retort, no matter how many times you try to rephrase it, does not make sense
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>>521296852
not that anon but lae'zel started the fight. shart lied and that pissed lae'zel off, but lae'zel still started the fight. she demanded the duel. shart was actually trying to avoid a fight by lying
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post your gooner tavs
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>>521297020
Being condescending and just saying it doesn't make sense is ironically not an argument while you say not an argument. What exactly do you think doesn't make sense, and I'll explain it. Or link the post you're referring to.

>>521297276
Once again, the thing that sparked the first exchanged words was Shart having the relic. Shart served the original tennis ball. Lae'zel reacted to the fact that Shart had the relic by asking a simple question about it. Shart then lied to her face, and then dismissed further questions. Examining the facts, Shart committed the initial act that sparked the question, and then was the one who shifted the tone from questions to animosity by lying and dismissing. Lae'zel would not have interacted with her if Shart didn't have the relic, which means Lazy is not the one who started the interaction. Lazy also started with simple questions, it was Shart who started negativity, so the argument (escalated from questioning) was also Shart's doing.

We also know, from playing Shart origin, that if Shart does simply answer the question to some half-assed degree, Lazy says alright and goes to sleep. Meaning Lazy was actually the one not necessarily looking for a fight, and that the fight only happens if Shart dismisses/lies. Using unusual choices is not usually helpful in discussion of what characters do, but in this case it does inform us that there is a situation in which Lazy says ok and goes to sleep, which tells us that the narrative that Lazy was looking for a fight is false. Lazy was legitimately just asking about the gith relic, and it's Shart's lying and dismissal that leads to the fight.
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>>521297689
What type of autism do you have
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>>521297276
It’s worth mentioning that it isn’t the first time the relic was a topic of conversation either, and you have been traveling as a group for some time when the argument sparks. Lae’zel comes on aggressively and ultimately comes to threaten Shadowheart’s life, and her ultimate goal in acquiring the relic for the githyanki, who cannot be trusted, endangers the lives of everyone present

>>521297689
Shadowheart cannot start an argument by silently traveling with the artifact in her pocket. The argument sparks because Lae’zel confronts her about it. I don’t know why you’re gaslighting me about my tone given your posts in this thread, but whatever, it’s 4channel
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Is Mintharafag a virgin?
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>>521297917
Duh
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>>521297815
The bad kind
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>>521297689
lae'zel has a valid reason to be pissed but she's still the one who started the fight. the origin thing is kinda strange because it makes you wonder why lae'zel even started a fight at all if that was gonna be her reaction. like shart can tell her she stole it personally from her queen and she's just fine with that? make it make sense

but shart lying makes complete sense. virtually any other gith would kill her on the spot if she admitted to stealing from their queen
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What are some good solo builds? Was thinking tempest cleric/sorc or fighter lock
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>>521298238
The argument is actually foreshadowed, Lae’zel comments that murder is a given in githyanki society whereas theft is severely punished, one of the most reprehensible of crimes, and Shadowheart says “Hmm. Good to know.” She lies to avoid retribution. I think it’s an impossible stretch to say she was the aggressor in this situation, or in any way seeking conflict over the artifact
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>>521297853
It's a gith relic. Lazy doesn't start off arguing, she starts off asking. We as the audience know that Shart did in fact murder a bunch of gith and steal the relic, meaning Lazy's questions are not only justified, but entirely correct in terms of suspicion. The animosity is started by Shart. The argument only happened because of Shart's behavior to Lazy's question. You're confusing the first person to talk to the other vs the first person to introduce negativity. If Shart answered Lazy's question, it would not have escalated to an argument, meaning Shart started the argument.

If Shart answered honestly and told Lazy that she murdered a bunch of gith and stole it, then Lazy would have justifiably challenged her for the relic and justice for the people she murdered. Lazy would still have been in the right in that case. Literally just dispensing justice for crimes committed.

But sicne Shart chose to lie, Lazy isn't dumb enough to believe her that she actually doens't know anything about the relic she is holding, it's not even a good lie, so Lazy understandably, logically, assumes the worst. And she's correct to assume the worst, because the reality is indeed that Shart stole it and murdered people to do so. So Lazy is once again correct.

It's just funny that Lazy is correct at every single stage of the conversation, from the initial non-argumentative questioning, to the escalation to argument, to the justifications for a duel. Yet here we are, debating it again, because people just can't admit that Shart was the instigator and the bad guy here.

You were the first person to be dismissive and give a non-argument, ironically enough, right here >>521289880 and here >>521297020 so don't act like the victim. Talk about the facts of the game without meaningless tangents about tone or non-arguments.
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Would he argue with himself so he can keep writing paragraphs back at himself.
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>>521298917
>If Shart answered Lazy's question, it would not have escalated to an argument, meaning Shart started the argument.
mate that's not how that works. if you ask minthara how her bussy feels, she declines to answer, and then you tell her you're gonna kill her, she did not start the fight. yes, her answering your question would have prevented your aggression, but she did not start the fight
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>>521299021
not ones where he looks like a pompous fag
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>mintharafag once again sticking to facts and logic and right about everything he says
>shartfags once again resort to empty personal attacks
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>>521298917
Look, I’m happy give you (You)s, but don’t bring tone into the conversation when you go well out of your way to be nasty to other people. Every post you make is dripping with pride and contempt. I’ll fine to let jt go, but if you decide to criticize me on those same grounds, yes, I’m going to point out the hypocrisy. That aside, again, I stand by what I said, rephrasing it yet again is not going to change my mind. That’s fine. I can tell I’m not going to change your mind either. That’s fine. This topic has been beaten to death as it is and it seems the thread has reached consensus
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>everyone that doesn’t like me is a sharfag
meds
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>>521299639
You lost
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her
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shadowBABY
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>>521299697
You claimed Lazy started the interaction. This is simply false. The interaction only happened because Shart stole the gith relic. There's no way to cut it, and it's not a matter of interpretation. The first event in the chain of events is Shart's theft of the relic. I don't know why you're missing this. There is no Lazy's questioning without Shart's stealing. There is an order of events and you're omitting the first one in order to try to say Lazy started it. It's just incorrect. And it literally doesn't matter that you dislike my tone when I'm explaining this, I'm being factual and concise. You are the first person to be rude and the first person to personally attack by saying I don't understand what an argument is, and now you're playing the victim. Meaningless tangents and hypocrisy. Just stick to the facts of the discussion. Which is that the order of events between Shart and Lazy began with Shart's theft of the relic. There is no duel if shart didn't lie, there is no lie if Lazy didn't ask, and there is no ask if Shart didn't steal the relic. Simple order of events.
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>>521300328
>>521300708
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>>521300541
>You claimed Lazy started the interaction. This is simply false. The interaction only happened because Shart stole the gith relic
uhh lae'zel still started the interaction between lae'zel and shart. i'm not sure why you're so opposed to this fact. yes shart stole the relic. that was a separate event where lae'zel was not even present. shart was trying to avoid a fight with lae'zel until she demanded a duel
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>>521300541
You let shitposters derail the conversation to be about who started it anyway. it was originally about who was right which is laezel. I find it funny that shartfags lie and deflect in order to defend their waifu who lies and deflects
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Karlach never causes this autism
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she’s multilingual…
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>>521301210
Someone took his name off to defend himself!
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Shadowheart won I'm sorry
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>>521299639
i think that's just interesting
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>>521301395
She always does
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>>521301231
Using soul coins tortures then damns the soul inside of them. In order to free the soul, you have to dispell or destroy the soul coin. So Karl saying "we might as well use them" is completely wrong, and is an evil act.

But I think most people know this, so there isn't much autism or arguing surrounding this. Most autism and arguing is around Shart and Shart's interactions with the rest of the cast.

>>521301149
Lazy is reacting to something Shart did to her people. The interaction is wrought from Shart's deeds. So it would still not be correct to say Lazy started it. If you're reacting to something someone did to you or your people, you aren't truly the one who started it.
We can go around this in a circle all day, the anon is right that the point isn't actually who started it anyway, it's that Lazy was at all times correct and justified, while Shart lies at every stage. Shart is the bad guy in this interaction. lazy never lies to Shart and never lies to you, while Shart does lie to Lazy and does plan to lie to you. Shart lied, murdered for, and stole the relic while lazy only asked questions to start with. There is a clear bad guy in this situation.
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>>521298917
>If Shart answered honestly and told Lazy that she murdered a bunch of gith and stole it, then Lazy would have justifiably challenged her for the relic and justice for the people she murdered.
Githyanki don't believe in murder. If Shadowheart, of all people, was able to slay numerous githyanki, then they deserved to die a thousand times over
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Plot twist: Mintharafag is Orpheus
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>>521301876
You cant talk about what is evil when you love a evil whore who wanted to skin tiefling children
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>>521301963
This
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>>521302174
First you didn't have reading comprehension of plain english by missing Minthara being mentioned in the list of people to kill, and now you're proving once again that you didn't play the game. When Minthara is free from the mind control, she says that killing the teiflings is a waste of time and resources. A very practical and pragmatic reason to not want to kill them. So Minthara doesn't want to kill the tieflings. At least play the game before you shitpost anon.
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>>521302764
No I don't read your massive paragraphs because nothing you say is worth anything. Why are you so mad did you see Shadowheart smile on reddit or something?
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>>521301876
There is no bad actor in this situation. Shadowheart lies but justifiably, and Lae’zel is honest and committed to her cause, tragically so. To you, the hero of Baldur’s Gate, this is a moment that threatens to end the life of one of your companions, an tragic, senseless moment, but one that allows you an opportunity to rise to the occasion. You’re meant to see the pointlessness of it and declare “Work together. We have an elder brain to kill.” You’re not supposed to gossip about the companion you dislike, or pick a side, you’re meant to act like a leader and rally those conflicting personalities to the greater cause. Hello? /bgg/ is a CHA general.
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>>521303250
I pick a side. I must kill Minthara 5000 times,
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>>521303702
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>>521303484
It’s over.
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>>521302026
>orpheus is the most reasonable man you meet in game
>mintharafag is the most reasonable fag you meet
hm
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>>521303976
Your dad raped you, baldur's gate 3
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>>521296852
We just should have had the option to tell them what happened, that we trust this woman, and that there's no need for violence.
The writers make the situation slightly unreasonable, by giving no rational conversation choice. It's just lie 1, lie 2, murder.
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>Dream Guardian Edition
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>>521304652
Bimbo’zel is lowkey peak
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>>521298514
Hexadin will be the most op and busted shit in the game for a long time, so go with that after patch 8.
Honorable mention; Eldritch knight High/high half elf with booming blade racial cantrip. This probably works with bladesinger too.
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>>521304652
something is different
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>>521304469
… act 3 unfinished horrendous
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>>521280409
So best girl it hurts
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>>521304652
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today is the day
Patch 8... at last
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>>521308354
god, I wish, I just made it to Moonrise, I'd happily start over
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>>521273952
> Why does the game make me choose between Shadowheart or Lae'zel if I fail the persuasion check during their fight? Why can't I just stand back and watch them duke it out?
I chose to go back to sleep and Shart won. I thought it would give me approval points like siding with her does, but no.
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>>521304652
>bimbo lae'zel
i now like the frog

need mod name
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Yes, I kill Lae'zel. She's ugly. What is her personality? Rude, dominating, doesn't respect me and other people in my party. Kills bystanders for no reason. Smells bad. Marks me for destruction because I travel with a githyanki. Why should I keep her safe?
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Do you guys think killing or freeing Shart's parents is better? I'm not sure what to choose even from a roleplaying perspective.
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>>521311196
Letting them die cures her of an incurable curse. Their souls go to Selune. Personally I don't understand why freeing her parents is more popular
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>>521311196
Killing if you romance her and she has white hair. You'll have to live in a zoo if they're alive.
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>>521311438
And the most important thing. She won't have anyone but you to rely on.
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>>521311420
Isn't her curse just she's in pain sometimes? She has the same curse every guy who does physical labor has.
>>521311438
>>521311604
I'm not romancing her
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>>521311196
Unromanced - Free. Her being stuck alone for the rest of her life is terrible.
Romanced - I personally prefer freed, just for ultimate do-gooder happy ending.

The pain in her hand is nothing compared to the love of a happy, functional, and together family.
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>>521312241
Which makes the dilemma trash
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>>521311420
>Personally I don't understand why freeing her parents is more popular
Well, there's the factor that most people that romance Shart prefer the cottage ending over adventuring.
Second factor is that both in the epilogue to her quest and the original epilogue she very much expresses regret over choosing to kill them as now her original childhood unrecoverably lost to her.
Especially the epilogue to her own quest has some dubious lines, such as picrel where she says she might consider begging Shar to delete some of her memories again (it's implied that Shar restores the worst of her memories if she actually chooses to kill them).
Or even states that she might be reunited with her parents quite soon because the Absolute will get you first anyway.
Whereas when she chooses to save them, she's much more happier and never wavers that she made the right choice.
Also, the added epilogue shows that even if she chose to save them, Shar seems to be losing interest in her, whereas if her parents are dead, Sharran assassins are still on her / your ass, essentially diminishing the one downside this choice has.

There's a bunch of other stuff that hints at this being the "preferred" option, frankly.
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>>521312012
It's excruciating chronic pain that exists for the sole purpose of making her miserable. I see no reason to not cure her of it, yes her parents die, but their souls are safe, and she never knew them to begin with. Eventually she will see them in Selune's heaven so it's long term vs short term benefit
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>>521311196
>>470771112
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>>521312012
>Isn't her curse just she's in pain sometimes?
The game is inconsistent.
In Act 1, she's in pain whenever she interacts with some Selunite stuff or she does something good (we disregard the contrivance that she also gets episodes when you do something good).
But there it's also not terribly consistent as it doesn't happen everytime.
In Act 3, it literally happens at random.
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Bobby is finally working on the next game's OST, it's time. Summer game fest is getting closer and closer, it's time. BG3 rules but it's time to move on. Let larian usher a new age of good wrpgs.
https://youtu.be/B95OUKk7alM?si=rg5Wm_HNODT1TcYC
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>>521312843
Have you tried, like, taking her feelings into account? She's much happier with her parents saved, and enduring chronic pain is well worth it if that's the trade-off.
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>>521314070
Her mom is literally dying
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>>521312574
>the cottage ending over adventuring
I spent several years in a village as a child. That wasn't a pleasant experience and the ending took me back to those times. And I had chickens and a dog, not 80 big animals she bought.
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>>521314273
Fiction rarely accounts for basic issues.
Adventuring sure sounds fun on paper, until you realize that you have to carry around all your shit everyday and have to look / pay for basic commodities every single day.
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>>521312574
>assassins are still on her / your ass
I didn't romance her as Tav and got a shitty line that hints at sex instead.
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>>521314613
I don't know how we carry chairs, target dummies, armor and fancy tents.
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Why aren't yall talking about wyll's story for once?
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>>521302764
Thoughts on Nocturne?
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>>521313050
Yeah Whatever screws over Shar the most is a good way to look at it
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The reddit farm ending was more disgusting than the brothel thing desu.
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>>521316018
Brothel aside, a farm filled with 80 types of animals must be stinking like crazy
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>>521311420
saving parens is just better by all accounts
shadowheart's pain seems manageable as it's portrayed in the game and according to her during the epilogue it gets easier
also nothing says it's actually incurable
the curse wasn't cast by shar, that would be an intervention
it was most likely cast by sharrans or viconia herself
shadowlands curse was much more powerful and it can be lifted, there's no reason to believe that shadowhearts pseudo warding bond can't be
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>>521314273
>>521316018
All urbanites should kill themselves

>>521314605
Frogs just look weird if they're not wearing Gith armor.
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>>521316990
Are you a villager?
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>>521316990
Your family tree is a circle, flyover
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>>521313160
Why are they teasing shit when bg3 isn't even finished? WHERE IS THE 8TH PATCH HELLO
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We decided that patch 8 was too bugged. Everything will be fixed in patch 9 along with new exciting features. See you in November!
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>>521319186
>said exciting features are more minthara bugs
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If someone dies I restart the fight. Reviving makes no sense simple as.
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>i never lied to you
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Patch 8 dropping any second now
HYPE
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Good afternoon /bgg/
Waifus, Husbandos
Love and Harmony~!

I see we are preparing for a nice weekend of discussions, I am very happy: if the damned Patch 8 were to be published, I would be even happier.
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DAWNMASTER SNEED
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>>521320685
even after the detailed explanation by gale?
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>>521334169
I hate you
I just played this bit and thought it said Sneed for a second then came here a few hours later and saw this post
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>>521334979
Formerly Dawnmaster Shadowheartfag
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The first inkling of something unusual came about when you caught Shadowheart in deep conversation with Halsin in hushed tones.
They huddled together a little bit farther away from the main camp, their faces close and voices low. The way Shadowheart laughed and leaned in closer to Halsin, her hand resting on his muscular arm, made your stomach twist a little.
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>I’m not condescending
Shouts the shitposter condescendingly
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>>521280237
Just reached 12 with my great weapon battlemasster fighter, very effective class, but I was wondering if I should just ding 12 with fighter, and get some feat I don't really need (maybe +2 con, but I feel immortal aready with heal on turn and high AC/no crit on me), or get 1 level with war cleric like some people on the internet suggest. But I don't really understand how the extra attack on bonus action work - I already get attacks on bonus action with fighter right now, would the war cleric one be redundant since it wouldnt actually add a bonus slot?

Feel like I should just go full 12 fighter and forget about it
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>>521342347
i dont think there are that many great level 1 dips in general. if you aren't using your concentration then maybe go barb for 50% resistance to physical

but really maybe just look at some of the feats you haven't yet considered. savage attacker, sentinel, war caster (if you are using a concentration spell a lot), alert etc.

they're all pretty boring though but that's what you get when you roll great weapon fighter
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>>521345093
Yeah, I did some more research, at this point I think I'll just get alert. Initially I wanted savage attacker, but apparently it doesn't give much of a buff if you already have great weapon master.
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game is shit
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>>521342347
War Cleric's extra attacks are largely redundant in practice, yes. But extra attacks from GWM are not guaranteed, so it's still nice to have 3 on-demand extra attacks a day. (War) Cleric is a popular dip because 1st-level Cleric spells are really efficient. Bless is fantastic, and your Cleric might be concentrating on Spirit Guardians. You can't really optimize a Fighter 11 much further, whether you grab a feat or a one-level dip, so it comes down to flavor.

>>521345942
Savage Attacker has no interaction with GWM, because GWM doesn't reroll dice. You might be thinking of GWF, that's a Fighting Style. Savage Attacker is still good if you somehow manage to stack a lot of damage dice, but it's more of a Paladin or Rogue feat.
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>>521334418
what is it?
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>Slop & Hypocrisy
The swine wishes it could generate half the amount of discussion the namefag does. Unfortunately, joking about Astarion being boned or spamming obnoxious slop does not seem to garner the same level of interest. Oh well. Something about Shar plagiarizing (borrowing) the souls of Shadowheart's parents. Anyone?
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Patch 8 is out in 4 days and yall don't care?
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I thought he got bibberbanged after posting gore
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>pop into camp
>myself
>eight retards who need me to solve their problems
>two mangy strays
>a demon bitch
>two angelic lesbos
>mummy
>two elderly torture victims
>creepy orphan and her cat
this is getting ridiculous. crowded up in this bitch.
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>>521348489
patch 8 is never coming out sorry u had to find out this way
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>>521348950
Larian confirmed that it's out the 14th of april
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GoOd MoRnInG I lOvE sHaDoWhEaRt
>not your first post in this thread
>angry shart picture
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>patch 8 has a release date
>thread is dead as fuck
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Could have just posted a source.
https://x.com/larianstudios/status/1910710757928353900
That's cool. It only took them 7 months.
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>>521347570
>Bless is fantastic
bless is one of the most bait spells in the entire game, its only worth using early (<lvl 5) and why would an 11/1 fighter cleric waste his action to bless himself and 2 party members when he could use that action to attack 3+ times instead
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>>521350481
I will spam photo mode pictures with Wyll blacking your waifu.
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>>521351249
apply it before combat, bitch
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>>521351747
Wyll is gay and proud though
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>>521350724
>last major update for the game
alright guys time to pack it up and go
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>>521351249
You enter a temple dedicated to the god of murder, and confidently approach the Chosen of Bhaal. Death surrounds you. This could be it. Do you wait until combat starts to drink your elixir, say a quick prayer, cast Bless, and kiss your wife on the cheek?
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yay. it’s out in 4 days, namefag will spend all his time here!
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larian's next game is unironically gonna be way worse than bg3. they already said they're dropping unique mocap for every dialogue since its too time consuming
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>>521353026
you mean better for modders and for people who think the mocap looks like shit.
Because it does look like shit.
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Can't wait for Mintharafag's final, cute Tav - a Default Female High Elf Face 3 Oath of the Crown Paladin!
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>>521353026
They literally never said that and every single larian studio has mocap material, quit lying
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>>521353341
>Final
But Mintharafag is trapped here and will keep making his ugly self inserts
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>>521353445
yes they did. they say it in here somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdmY9Mt-vz8

there will still be mocap for certain scenes but they're dropping it for a lot of the regular dialogue
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gamestegy.com/post/bg3/981/open-hand-monk-build
i dont use potions/scrolls/elixirs or precasts, should i still do this build but follow their dex tips? or theres a better build

im new but i'd like to do honor or tactician mode using the same builds
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>>521353749
CUTE and DORKY.
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>>521350724
HOLY MOMMY
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>>521353980
yes lae'zel is cute and shadowheart is a dork WAHEY
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>>521353814
I'm fine with that if that means that we get overral higher quality scenes
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>>521354181
it'll strip the characters of a lot of their personality tho. imagine astarion without his cute mocap in every small scene
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Every single day Tav is put under Dominate and made to eat fresh, warm, sloppy Goodberry Pie
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>>521353026
>>521353814
mocap for even the minor NPC dialogue was hugely important for making the game like a lifelike fantasy adventure. i really don't think it's a good idea to scrap it. i hope they know what they're doing and aren't just removing it because they don't "see" the benefit of it
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>>521354626
I would have agreed if act 3 wasn't filled of badly animated 2 seconds long NPCs, I still think that they'll mocap everything because Swen always says something and then does the exact opposite because he loves content creep so much lol can't blame the guy, like, next game was supposed to be a smaller project and has turned into a bg3-sized one that will take 5 or years to release, believe me, everything will be mocaped
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>>521354626
no it won’t, they’ll just get an animator to put those in.
It’s not like they’re not gonna have references with they animate characters going forward.
>>521354854
I disagree that mocap is the reasoning
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Oak Father preserve us all.
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Patch 8 hype poll, please vote:
https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB917rQgJ
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Is it nuts to start the game on tactician if I'm a new player? I don't know shit about fuck and it's still too easy (I just started Act 2)
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>>521355375
everyone wants to play bladesinger and i reckon death cleric will get used a lot since players are gonna respec shart to it
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>>521355375
I meant to allow 1 to 4 voting options but instead it's a fixed 4.
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>>521355598
The final boss of the act and some mini bosses might destroy you but it will be easy aside of 3 or 4 encounters
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>>521355598
Why do you feel the need to ask? You already think the game is too easy you dumb motherfucker
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>>521355880
I never experienced the difficulty progression before. Maybe two turns from now it becomes really hard
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Missionary with Astarion
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>>521356661
You're so lucky. They didn't allow me to watch.
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>>521354626
real
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaqyQelNgAc
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>>521356661
He's so ugly. I can't believe he's an elf.
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>>521356661
Halsin should have been a femboy bard
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>>521357374
but that would make it even more embarassing for people who romanced shadowheart
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>>521357374
Other companions are already femboys though
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>>521357716
They're barely twinks
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The realization hit you like a punch to the gut. While you had been focused on the strange behavior between Shadowheart and Halsin, another possibility had slipped under your nose. With a mixture of horror and bewildered shock, you watched as Shadowheart knelt beside Scratch, her fingers scratching behind his ear and eliciting excited wags from the canine. Your mind whirled with questions as the image of Shadowheart playing with the dog burned into your memory.
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>>521280237
is that, that one tranny suzi or something that is shoved in all the games
lmao is that what you baldur troons waste time doing
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>>521358796
Shadowheart mindbroking so many virgins will never not be funny
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>>521301963
BITH AND DROW ARE ALL PRIDE UNTIL THEY ARE DEAD
NOO I CAN HURT YOU BUT YOU CANT HURT ME
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>Shadowheart sees Tav coming to her tent
>quickly has some wine to get the taste of goodberry out of her mouth
>kisses him deeply on the lips
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Odds on the cuckposter being the namefag?
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this dudes gonna get the thread nuked again
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>>521360314
Exact same odds as>>521297917
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>>521355375
Surprised hexblade isn't top. It seems like the edgelord class.
>>521359209
Real
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>>521309867
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/14560
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0INbsOO3t9g
Did you guys know about the exploding sheep you can add to your party?
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>>521360950
TBF Shadowheart does approve of you letting Scratch into the camp.....
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>>521361254
>Karlach wants to fuck Scratch
?????
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>female romance options are
>whore
>whore
>retarded frog
>whore
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>>521361576
Laezel is a whore too. Cope you will get a pure virgin
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>>521361658
You Wyll get a pure virgin
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>>521361576
Laezel hooks up with astarion if you romance neither
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>>521361658
yeah but she is a retarded frog before a whore
i just put the most defining trait
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>>521360148
>to get the taste of goodberry out of her mouth
is it so disgusting?
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>>521361753
They said female options
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>>521360148
but im a ranger and gave her the goodberry
why does she hate my gift
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>>521361452
Yes. Are you surprised?
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>>521362056
Your goodberries are too small
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>>521362191
my goodberry arent even as good as halsins
i wonder where he picks them
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>>521362117
Does that mean Wyll wants to fuck scratch too?
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>>521362648
bucked status?
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Halsin mindbroking so many virgins will never not be funny
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>>521362792
Halsin has broken a lot of hymens
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>>521362357
halsin will be happy to pick goodberries and share them with you and shadowheart
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>>521362792
Its Big H's world.
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>>521362792
Daddy Halsin turned me gay and poly
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why do I get a 1d4 heal after kissing Shadowheart? Is this an easter egg?
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FUCKING FINALLY

I CAN PLAY BALDUR'S GATE 3 FOR THE FIRST TIME ON 15TH

I BOUGHT THIS FUCKING GAME ON CHRISTMAS AND I CAN'T TOUCH IT BECAUSE SWEN IS A FAGGOT
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>>521363121
clerics are chosen of gods :) her goddess blessed her
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Why is a druid OK with fucking an undead and trans Tavs?
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Jenevelle is into anal.
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Is it impossible to download EA from steam using the steam console now?
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>>521363137
two more weeks
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>>521363137
imagine if you don't like it and drop 2 hours in
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I wish goodberries were real
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>>521363121
Nature's bounty :)
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>>521363806
Game of the decade
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>>521363641
be careful with cuck pastas. posts like this were removed earlier. better to write new cuck masterpieces
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>>521363553
Larian thinks that druids are hippies and not autistic mushroom enjoyers
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>>521280409
BEST GIRL
E
S
T

G
I
R
L

For real though, the "source of my joy" bit towards the end was probably the best character development out of any of them.
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>>521363564
Goodberry anal beads makes Jenee squeal
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what am I missing about 'goodberry'?
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>>521363564
no that's karlach
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DAMN YOU LARIAN WHY ISNT THE FORMER EVIL CULTIST A VIRGIN TRADWIFE???
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>>521363735
Can anyone help please
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>four days
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>>521360314
It's a /crpgg/ schizo wasting what remains of its sad life spamming the same pastas. You can see the same garbage posted there sometimes. I guess it got riled up because a new patch was announced and we're not allowed to be excited for it. One year and counting of being warped by BG3, by the way.
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>>521364294
just replace 'goodberry' with 'halsin's cock' and every post about goodberry will make sense
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>>521364294
Can anyone help please
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>>521363735
what happened?
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>>521364513
waifu retards are literally mentally ill you had the same people bitching in wotr how a literal succubus wasnt some pure virgin too
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I shower Shaddy with gifts and in return all I get is a goodberry pie
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>>521364513
What have been cute and redemptive.
But modern women don't deserve such forgiveness.
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>>521364650
It's an act 3 delicacy
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>>521280334
>>521283805
>>521356482
Which god/goddess would Astation proselyte and be a missionary for?
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>>521364692
Nevermind I'm retarded. Used the Build ID in place of the depot ID
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>>521364294
Up to ten berries appear in your hand and are infused with magic for the duration. A creature can use its action to eat one berry. Eating a berry restores 1 hit point, and the berry provides enough nourishment to sustain a creature for one day.

The berries lose their potency if they have not been consumed within 24 hours of the casting of this spell.
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>>521365043
Dekarios the Divine,
God of Ambition
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Hmmmmmm...goodberries
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>making your father proud as a bhaalspawn is le bad and you need to betray him because... BECAUSE YOU JUST SHOULD OKAY???
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What sounds does Tav make while he's enjoying his daily goodberry pie?
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>>521353341
It's a 50/50 coinflip between drow or high.
It also seems that modding will provide reason to play bg3 into the future, so I doubt it'll be the last.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CurseofStrahd/comments/1ivop9l/welcome_to_project_strahd/
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>>521365425
>>521365403
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>>521365481
Corcochad is so funny and quirky
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I modded the Goodberry spell out of my game because of this fucking retard general
I hope that makes your miserable shitty day.
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>>521365648
the funniest thing today
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>>521361576
love from Menzoberranzan
I hate women so much it's unreal
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>>521365648
but you kept big H in?
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>>521364251
tips for convincing myself that this is true?
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>>521365554
>off model art
Here's the actual in game minthara.
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>>521365554
Noir Minthara with delicious abs...
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>>521365648
Imagine being mindbroken by a lvl1 spell
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>>521365648
Mmmmmrghhh goodberries
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>>521366097
This is so corny, it genuinely feels like he's writing with a hand on his dick
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The John twitter posts aren't as funny or lifechanging as the Halsin copypastas
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>>521366446
>Kevin's masterful writing
>wrote the shittiest companion not once but twice
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>>521366607
John's posts are funnier because they're practically canon coming from the writer himself
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Fuck, Marry, Kill
Astarion
Gale
Karlach
Lae'zel
Shadowheart
Wyll
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>>521367098
Based dev, cringe john
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>>521366991
Fuck Gale, Marry Astarion, Kill Manthara
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>>521366446
>>521367098
>laezel is trans
it all makes sense now
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>>521366991
Fuck frog
Marry karlach
Kill wyll and minthara
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Thoughts on my Body Type 1 guardian? I went for androgynous look.
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>>521367606
Cute
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>>521367606
Looks like a korean guy on hrt
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>>521367606
>I went for androgynous look.
Basedbasedbasedbasedbasedbased
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>>521367606
Not cute
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>>521367942
Ugly
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>>521365648
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>>521367606
hot
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>>521367942
What is it about beauty that scares you so much?
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>bg3 act 1
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Tavy have a rumbly in his tumbly
too much goodberry pie
now shaddy and daddy want to make him more
oh no no no no HURRRRK
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took my longest act 3 of the year, length of my forearm it was crazy
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>>521369276
>>521369148
>>521368891
Cute
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>>521369276
>solo halsin romance
ironically that made her monogamous
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>>521369148
she literally wanted to kill him and never changed her mind
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>>521369905
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>>521369831
wyll is a sandwich between you and halsin?
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>>521369948
lae'zel ever the tactician and soldier realized the owlbear would be too much of a drain on the camp resources
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>>521369831
i took him with me once and that lowered my opinion even further
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They didn't finish the game
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>>521369831
I used him and he is still boring. It doesn't help that he has the least amount of dialogue.
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>>521369948
sounds like a cute enemies to lovers story <3
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>>521370291
Wyll having even more lines would make him even worse
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>IGNIS!
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>>521370976
funny
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>>521370976
The game that mindbroke him...
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>>521370976
he doesn't romance anyone, right?
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>>521372494
No. He said any time a character started getting flirty he had to get up and pace around the room for a while.
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Oak father preserve us all.
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>>521374430
He is autistic right? and asexual I assume
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Fuck God Gale
Marry God Gale
Kill Gale
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>>521375898
>wake up
>Shaddy isn't in bed next to you
>"huh must be out for a swim"
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>>521375894
They're not two separate entities.
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>>521375894
Based
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>beat game
>wonder if Gale would have become a god if I took him with me to the final fight
>it must be a reward Mystra grants him for delivering her the crown
>read the wiki
What, the fuck.
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>>521376594
Why would she share power?
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Her name is Shadowheart, or Shart for short.
Say it right or don't say it at all.
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>>521376594
what
did you just skip all of his dialogue
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This is how I see every gnome/halfling martial
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Oh Shaddy... oh my Shaddy...
why couldn't I be enough for you

I will never forget what you took from me H
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When was the last time swen cared about wyll?
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>>521376797
what?
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>>521376925
cute
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>>521376857
this
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>>521377210
>anime
meh
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>>521377210
>chadnime
Yummers
>shart
Ick
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>>521377210
yes
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>>521376840
He spoke to Lorroakan about usurping her, which I thought was bizarre. Then when I got him to the book, he started sounding like Astarion and Minthara. I told him no. That doesn't negate the idea that Mystra might elevate him for doing the right thing. But when I type it out, that sounds silly, mortals should be mortals.
I dislike the gods because they are still ruled by their emotions, like an unchecked child. Deities should not be relatable. Elden Ring did it right.
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>>521376925
>holding out their hand for their sword
That's so adorable.
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>>521378441
>their their
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>>521378219
>karsus trying to ascend to godhood lead to the destruction of the weave
>orb+crown is the way for gale to finish what he started
>mystra wants crown to prevent exactly this
did you skip gale's audience with mystra?
i like dnd gods, they help to build overall totem pole
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>>521378219
>mortals should be mortals
Why? The gods used to be mortals themselves and it isn’t as if Gale sacrifices souls or does something heinous by reforging the crown. He resolves to either reforge the crown or not based on how his meeting with Mystra went, and his success is dependent on whether or not he read the book
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So do you need to kill trolls to level up your sorcery?

Because after I killed a bunch of them I felt like I went from zero spells to being able to cast spells
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>>521353970
>yet another coomposting general
>^>back to r*ddit
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>>521378219
>Then when I got him to the book, he started sounding like Astarion and Minthara.
Yeah, Act 3 Gale is a bit retarded and it takes specific actions that gets him down to a humble level again, his obsession with godhood comes a bit out of nowhere for a character that previously was mopping around and attempting to come to terms with his own death.
>That doesn't negate the idea that Mystra might elevate him for doing the right thing.
His entire jist with Mystra is the fact that the entire relationship was on an unequal footing and Mystra brushed Gale off when he got curious about magic Mystra didn't want mortals to toy around with.
He then wanted to impress Mystra by toying around with artifacts that, as he later finds out, killed Mystra.

Mystra does not consider Gale (or mortals) an equal and will not ascend any of them to godhood, especially as a previous mortal attempted the very thing and killed Mystra in the process.
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>>521379557
You talking about Lump and his friends?
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>>521379574
>uses someone else's builds
cuck
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>>521379308
>lead to the destruction of the weave
The way I understood it, is he tried to unburden the Weave from Mystra, not understanding that she *is* the Weave. So she dissolved her existence to keep him from assimilating her, and his spell had nothing to unburden.
The Weave was just absent. I think it would have been worse if it had been 'destroyed'.
>did you skip gale's audience with mystra?
At the end of the day, Lae'zel says she doesn't trust Mystra, so I don't trust Mystra.

>>521379427
Because the sentence in spoiler that follows.

>>521379609
>Yeah, Act 3 Gale is a bit retarded
I almost screamed "what is wrong with you".
>his obsession with godhood comes a bit out of nowhere for a character that previously was mopping around and attempting to come to terms with his own death
Exactly!
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>>521379308
Karsus ascended to godhood, the problem is that he tried to usurp Mystra without the power to contain the Weave, succeeding in only destroying Mystra, magic, and himself. Gale can vow to destroy Mystra like Karsus, or he can vow to claim the crown but leave Mystra to her devices
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>>521379557
what is your class? there are half and third casters who don't have spells at lvl 1
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>>521379609
Mystra is younger than Jaheira but acts so uppity
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I do not think Mystra nor Isobel have attractive faces.
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>>521380297
If the choice is subordinating myself to an emotional mortal with godlike power, or becoming an emotional mortal with godlike power myself, I’m going to choose ascension. There’s nothing compelling about turning in the crown to Mystra imo
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>>521380297
>>521380297
Early access Gale was more power hungry. Its probably a leftover from that.
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>They're coming
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>>521380297
>toadcel is a retarded speedreader
how can you look at the state of far realms and say "mortals should remain mortals"
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>>521380717
>There’s nothing compelling about turning in the crown to Mystra imo
Fair.
My reasoning is that it removes this coveted item from the lanceboard, so that the line between mortal affairs and deity affairs is more definitive.

>>521380836
I actually dislike Gale, I think his attempt to impress Mystra is unforgivable (yet she forgives him). I might have warmed up to him if he had sought the orb out of ambition, than obsession. Like the karsite hand I've heard about in his concept art?
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>>521376857
the date night with Halsin look
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>>521380717
The crux is that God Gale will quite likely cause a divine ruckus down the line.
He's the God of Ambition and it's implied that his plans to usurp Mystra were only put temporarily aside because he can't take her on...yet.
Kind of the issue with embodying Ambition, you're not going to settle with what you have.
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>>521366991
fuck karlach
marry astarion
kill gale
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>>521381870
>interrupting shart and lae'zel's date
wow rude
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FUCK PATCH 8
I DONT WANT IT TO ACTUALLY RELEASE ALL MY CHEATS ARE GOING TO BREAK
FUCK LARIAN
FUCK SVEN
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>>521382056
>Kind of the issue with embodying Ambition, you're not going to settle with what you have.
Safe to imagine he'd have his eyes on Ao's station? That didn't go so hot for Myrkul and Bane.
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thinking of all the pretty pictures I can take of astarion in patch 8
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>>521382347
It's really only the UI mods that will break
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>>521381608
I like it for exactly the same reason lol the gods have gone on for centuries about “Karsus’ Folly” and how mortals can never handle the true power of the gods, immortal entities of all kinds are laughing and smirking and feeling so smug, and then a wizard claims the literal powers of Karsus and cleanly ascends to godhood

>>521382056
He says his ambitions extend far beyond acting as protector of the Weave but it’s left to interpretation. If you ascend with him, you become a deity yourself, and you can headcanon almost anything
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How strong is bladesinger compared to swords bard?
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>shadow sorcerer
>no extra dialogue
So there is literally no point
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>>521383925
How do you know.
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Dawnmaster Chuck
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Would llolth drow just kill everyone anyways?
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fr tho why do I still care so much about this game
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>>521384643
because its fun
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>>521384643
because its a good game even if unfinished
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>>521384787
Gales ambition was to grow boobs
tranny game
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>>521382962
>If you ascend with him
That's only if you romance him, right?
>and then a wizard claims the literal powers of Karsus and cleanly ascends to godhood
>a wizard
Ew.
I get you, that's pretty cool.
But I much prefer The Dead Three's method, it was honest. I had to look it up just recently, I had assumed they got into prestige levels and then leap at Jergal. No, they hunted down a primordial god with a band of mercenaries and divided its divine power amongst themselves. I can see myself hoping to ascend that way.
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>>521384643
Good game, good writing, good aesthetics.
When art is made with love, it succeeds.
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>>521384643
The story's shit but it's visually impressive and has a lot of rp options
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>>521385632
>be in situation
>lie
>lie (persuasion)
>kill
thats the extent of bg3 rp
its not better than fallout 4
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SEX
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>>521385531
Plenty of artistic projects made with love bombed what
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>>521385769
>he didn't play the game
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>>521385909
>the game
lost
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>>521385818
Mmmmmmm
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>>521385769
Presentation is important, this nigga never watched megamind. Everybody bought dos2 because it was fully voiced. Everybody bought bg3 because it's fully animated
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>>521384643
I don't. I only come here to be mocked.
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I SHOULD'VE WAITED BEFORE STARTING AGAIN
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>>521386162
Shadowheartfag...
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>>521385769
Its definitely better than fo4. You are stupid.
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>>521384643
I like picrel.
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Naked Tav
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>>521386321
Nah. Just a sparkie.
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F4's companions are lowkey more enjoyable than BG3's overall no cap
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>>521386337
>>521386136
>>521385909
seething and buck broken by the TRVTH
fallout 4 has better romance options too
even the most mid Piper is better than Astarion and Shart
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All my UI mods...
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Why is someone shilling Fallout 4?
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>>521386571
Trvth nuke
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>>521386571
>fo4 romance
Laughing my ass off. You can fuck them all and they say nothing.
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if they patch out the volo pickpocket cheese i'm never playing again. aint nobody got time to loot tons of shit for gp on every playthrough
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>>521386923
Larian is afraid of Bethesda and Swen owes Todd his bussy
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>>521386529
idk much about f4 companions bc the moment I met nick valentine he never left my side

husbando
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>>521387035
Chad simulator unlike baldur cuck 3
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test
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>>521387082
>volo pickpocket cheese
What is this?
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>>521387082
Just hack in infinite gold at that point.
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>>521387228
W take
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>check gayle playthrough
>20k+ gold
how are people short on gold? skill issue?
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Talk about the Blade.
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>>521387449
do you not buy anything ever
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>>521387497
He boring and my self insert won't have sex with him.
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>>521387429
breaking bae'zel's mind and turning her into a trad wife
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>>521387528
most of the best gears are drops
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>>521387693
a lot of them are bought
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>>521387762
like what specifically
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>>521387497
The Stardew Valley modders will never add him
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>>521387863
anon there's so much shit i can't even remember them all right now. a bunch of dammons shit, dead eye bow, titan string bow, gear in the murder tribunal, magic gear from various vendors in act 3, etc etc
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>>521388058
Most of those drop from the vendor if killed or can be stolen from them
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>>521387643
>trad wife
>cant bear offspring
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>>521388284
>bear offspring
triggered
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>>521388868
Halsin raping tuffet in her sleep
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>>521385769
That's not the case though and it's exactly the problem - you can just do and say whatever the fuck you want and still survive every time due to plot armour, like when entering the creche and handing the prism over to Vlakith or freely plotting to procure the hammer in full view of the emperor. The brain dead railroaded writing just drags you along out of any situation, even if you just outright tell Lazy to slice your throat or let a malicious vampiric faggot suck your blood you can still revive yourself later if you have someone else in the party.
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This game fixed me. I used to make good heroes, but now I picked official characters and started with Astarion and Shadowheart. I knew them a little from EA. So as Astarion I chose dumb or evil options in dialogues to keep him in-character and I liked it. Now I enjoy being evil in games.
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>fo4 tard calling any other game railroaded
lol, lmao even
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>>521389623
My babyboys <3
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>>521389623
the worst astarion ship
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>>521389885
That's not astarion/gale
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>>521390383
i use scrub
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>>521389552
It's so railroaded that in order to find the group literally called the Railroad, you have to follow a path on the ground.
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>>521390383
i only exfoliate my face
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>>521391410
Bro
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Gale and laezel are stinkfags
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On April 15th, it will be Baldur's Gate 3 time finally once again.
Although I wonder if, with all this time that has passed, they have at least given the creators time to work on the mod updates in conjunction with the patch release.

We all know the answer.
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you'd think karlach would smell absolutely foul considering everything melts, burns, or dies when it touches her skin
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>>521392509
They did give an early access to the guy that made the script extender during patch 7 soooooo
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>>521392632
>spaying his ass for minutes to clean the grunge
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>HARPERS, ATTACK!
>Kill the cultists - and get that lantern!
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Why does mizora have a sex scene and not wyll?
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>>521392993
why do you care about Wyllcel
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>>521392993
Sexy demon woman over tradboy
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>>521392993
wyll has a sex scene stop spreading lies
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>>521393459
Oh yeah? What's his favorite position
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>>521393784
cowboy he grew horns for a reason
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>>521393503
ban fakeup
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>>521387429
Cute I love this mod
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>>521386529
I liked Nick Valentine, Curie, and the death robot because I love android companions. I didn’t use anyone else
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Mystic > Dread Overload > any other class mods
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4chan really becomes insufferable on the weekends, huh?
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>>521395340
Are you new?
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>>521395340
Are you new?
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>>521395340
>Weekends
Are you new?
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Lets try talking about the game so jannies stop malding about "off-topic"
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Need a boy who can cuddle with me all night
Keep me warm, love me long, be my sunlight
Tell me lies, we can argue, we can fight
Yeah, we did it before, but we'll do it tonight
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>>521397253
ZAMN!
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>>521398217
>astarion thoughts
I had worst under Cazador really.
>shart thoughts
remembering fondly the tentacles that infected her
>wyll thoughts
finding the whole the situation preposterous and trying to keep calm
>karlach thoughts
just thinks she ate too much
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>>521384643
because it's unironically game of the decade
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>>521400758
>shart and laezel fighting over who gets to service Tav first
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>>521400161
We're not even halfway there shut the fuck up
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>>521400758
>DO NOT USE
UHH ANON
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>>521400984
who would you feed laezel gore pile to, scratch or the cub?
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>>521400857
I mean, if you count it as 2020-29, then...
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>>521401261
The cub. A dog would start seeking human flesh. Owlbears are
bloodthirsty monsters anyway.
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>Quarterstaves aren't Monk weapons in BG1&2
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>>521404546
Where's wyll
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>>521397945
I know he's sexy
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Did minthara bang any goblin?
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>>521405360
no but shadowheart does kiss a gnome
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>>521405412
Obsessed
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>>521404962
he needs to give me dhampirs
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>>521405360
see>>521405824
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>>521352456
They said that about the last patch.
Sven will eventually answer my 20 emails to support about playable goblins
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............wyll
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the stardew mod is very impressive. on year 3 and still getting new lines from Astarion
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>>521406776
you can thank swen for that
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thank you swen vincke i owe you my life
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While you were making merry, I studied the blade.
While you were having premarital sex, I mastered the art of war.
While you wasted your days in pursuit of fame, I cultivated my arcane knowledge.

And now that the world is on fire and the goblins are at the gate, you have the audacity to come to me for help...?
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>>521407810
THEY LED GOBLINS HERE?
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>>521406776
how much content do the other characters get
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>Stop, STOP!
>Bibberbang
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>>521409197
not as much but still a lot
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you respecced? You didnt beat the game. Multiclassed? Didn't beat the game. Used feats? didnt beat the game. Used more than 3 magic items? Didnt beat the game.
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>>521413024
>tfw i will never beat the game
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>https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Protective_Plate
Is there a fight this helps with?
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>>521413914
Not really.
Resistance to Necrotic is effectively baseline in Act 2 due to Selune's blessing.
Act 3 has some fights where it could be useful (Mystic Carrion, House of Grief) but i'd rather just pop an elixir than carry this armor around and put it on for these fights.
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>>521414320
Thank.
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wheres patch
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>>521417803
The 15th
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>>521417803
trust the plan
2 more weeks
patriots are in control
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>>521413295
The year is 2025. The effects of baneposting continue to reverberate
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>>521408259
I wish I smart enough to make mods.
I would make Zevlor yellow and wear a red hat, and he would shout(using an AI voice) "YOU LED CITYSLICKERS HERE!?"
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Does bladesinging really give you any reason to actually enter melee? Seems like it's all just defensive stuff outside of extra attack
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>>521417803
more importantly, what is the patch bringing?
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>>521424325
closure
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>>521422537
You build up charges when you cast spells that empower a charge type ability, so it deals more damage per charge.
I'm guess that charge will, obviously, put you into melee. You also get the martial double melee attack at level 6.
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>>521426768
Are you talking about something like arcane acuity items, or are there details to the subclass that aren't on the wiki?
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>>521427721
The bladesong, it's on the wiki:
"Condition: Bladesong Damage Charge
Bladesong Damage Charge
Bladesong Damage Charge
A charge that will increase how much damage you deal to enemies by 1d6Damage TypesForce when using
Bladesong Climax
Bladesong Climax.
You can accumulate these charges by casting Level 1 spells or above that are not weapon attacks.

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Bladesong
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>>521428058
That explains it. On the subclass page it didn't show the bladesong climax part, and I never looked closer
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My wife Minthara will never take damage ever again.

Would make a fun challenge playthrough, to never let your waifu take any damage.
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>>521424325
An excuse to start anew, and maybe talk about BG3 once more, before the long night.
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>>521432131
Like half the shit she talks about is her oath to get revenge and you're going to respec her? That's like making Gale a sorcerer
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>>521432383
I'm convinced half of you don't read posts before you reply to them. You play Oath of the Crown to tank damage and keep your allies healthy. It would be a Paladin duo in this case. Divine Allegiance seems kind of limited though. 5-ft range requires you to hug someone, and all you've done is redirect your hit points, unless you have radiant resistance from Warding Bond or something.
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cutie
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Lae'zel is love.
Lae'zel is life.
Lae'zel a miracle of the universe.
Lae'zel might've done some things wrong, but she's still a beautiful person inside and out.
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>>521440331
cute frog
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>2 monoclass paladins
>one is Minthara
I can’t imagine a more boring way to play the game
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>>521388284
>what are haragitu
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>>521424325
12 mid subclasses and new bugs
not worth the wait and hype
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>>521366991
Fuck Karlach
Marry Karlach
Kill Astarion, revive him, then kill him again
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I only come here to post about Shadowheart and Halsin
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I prefer Tav over Durge.
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I love shart because she heals me and warding bonds me and is the prettiest <3
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My like karlach because she is the alpha female.
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>>521304652
?!
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Gale listens to prog rock
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>>521452281
He's Mike Rutherford without the bad hairline in his later years
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my glorious giga edgelord Patch 8 build

lvl 20 mod
dark urge
death cleric & necro wizard multiclass

the master of death
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>Install Combat Extender, additional encounters, more enemies every fight, reduced XP gain, give every enemy +1 action and bonus action and raise their HP by 100%
>Game has been completely trivialized by the time i'm halfway into act 2
I need it to be harder, i just don't know how
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Gale would condemn Astarion to a life of thirst right?
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>>521370976
why doesn't his games have this level of freedomg and reactivity?
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>AI immediately goes for her
thanks larian
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>>521424325
Spacekino hype
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Swen said that the patchnote is 48 pages long
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>>521453372
Solo Gale run
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>>521407810
Bladesinger is part performer, he gets more pussy than any martial class
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Just beat the game for the first time
Huh
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>>521464661
I went evil the first time I beat it cause the elephant was being a cunt to me and sarevok was being pretty cool with his hate of his 2 generations of incest baby.
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>>521462160
I guess if it contains a write out of every subclass that makes sense
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Is the Sorcerer subclass the only full mage one being added in Parch 8?
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>>521467164
Bladesinger is a full wizard, Circle of Stars is a full druid, Death Domain is a pure cleric. What do you mean?
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>>521467301
I guess I meant because Bladesinger is sort of meant to be a mixed melee magic spellcaster, but I didn't think of the other two as it, even though they are, that makes sense
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>>521467675
Bladesinger is basically a mage with a very strong defensive buff. How you use that buff is up to you, you can make him just an invincible full caster who barely touches melee.
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>>521467164
With Death Cleric being able to hit two targets with Necromancy cantrips and ignoring Resistance to Necrotic, i'd say it can be a decent full caster as well.
Wiki says it also works with Burst Sinew, meaning you can deal decent AoE damage with a cantrip if enough corpses are around.
Although entirely giving up on your channel divinity does feel odd.

Circle of Stars druid also looks pretty casterish, with each constellation varying what sort of caster you want to be.
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Hexblade feels like some 14 years old's donut steel OC, it's like something out of a korean MMO. And it's fun.
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>>521468304
Cursed swords are zased
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for me its

race: human
sex: female
voice: 8
class: berserker/thief
background: tomboy urchin with anger issues
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>>521470125
built for corrective rape
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>>521470507
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>>521455289
And become a god, yes.
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Papa vincke will reveal his next masterpiece in the very near future
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>>521470125
Does my memory deceive me, or have I seen here before? She's pretty cute.
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Has anyone tried out drunken monke?
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I sincerely can't understand why people like romancing in games when I haven't seem one I like except maybe jaesa from swtor for rp reasons.

I tried a laezel and a karlach but I'm not enjoying the characters. Karlach is amazing at first but she becomes too quirky (not to mention her stupid ending I spoiled myself to). Laezel story has tons of very interesting githyanki characters but her writting feels like a parody.

I'll try shadowfart on patch 8 but from what I read here she'll cuck me. I don't play evil characters so Minthara feels out of place, should I still try? I'm not into male or bear characters so don't bother.
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>>521478979
Romance wyll it will literally change your life
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>>521478979
>she'll cuck me
It's ok if you're not the type to be attached to fictional characters and see them as entertainment. It was an important topic here because waifufags were obsessed with her but most of them lost fixation and left.
Minthara is evil and cannot be fixed but she's pragmatic and doesn't act violently just for fun so maybe. You don't have to be evil to romance her.
Origin Gale who doesn't have a lover can romance Mystra but there's little content.
You can also try Mintharafag's approach and romance Galina and "Serana"
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>>521481759
>doesn't act evil just for fun
>tasks low iq goblins to torture the only guy in the camp that knows where the Grove is
>sends sazza to her spiders even though she accomplished her mission
She's a grade A retard and is evil for the fuck of it
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>>521482221
The Absolute made her more retarded than usual, but let's summon Mintharafag for more information
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>>521482552
Her biggest simp is a mentally challenged fatso that uses her as a rebound girl...
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>>521478979
Probably because other people different from you have different tastes? What exactly is it that you don't like about these characters, if you want to argue?

>>521481759
>namefag scholar and apologist
Big yikes, you're trying too hard today Caitfag
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>>521478979
Minthara is a man so try again
>>521481759
Galina and his ugly abomination on Astarion should not be tried.
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>>521478979
maybe you are just gay
try romancing gale or astarion
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>>521483389
the emperor is better. looks like a girl so he can pretend to be straight
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>bought a 4k 32" QD-OLED to play BG3 at the highest graphical fidelity
>still can't get a 5080/5090 since they're all sold out 3 months after release
looks like I shant be playing for another 2-3 months my lads
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>>521483389
>pic
yay non-binary astarion
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Will patch 8 introduce new companions? Will this game have dlc?
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>>521483982
Are you stupid?
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>>521483982
Nope, it's quite pointless patching the game at this point. I wish Larian would move on already.
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>>521483982
Surprise patch 13 when space game flops trust the plan
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>>521478208
I'm too busy playing with photomode
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>>521484095
Space game will outsell bg3 because it will release on all platforms day 1 and won't have an unfinished badly written 3rd act
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>>521484650
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>>521478979
I sincerely can understand why people would NOT want to romance in an RPG. It doesn't have to be a requirement for a satisfying story or character arc. But it can also make you care about a character more. And if I've observed anything in the time I've browsed these threads, it's that characterfags tend to be more insightful and valuable than a swine that just sees companions as dolls to slop up and parade and joke about.
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>>521484981
Mintharafag...
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>>521478979
Me neither man, I've always seen romance as a waste of time
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Swen likes romances because hr thinks it makes his stories mature like the GOT show
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>>521484981
>And if I've observed anything in the time I've browsed these threads
is this planescape: torment copypasta
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>>521485681
It was a reference to it, actually. Good job having basic knowledge of the RPG classics.
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Missionary with Astarion
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Doggy style with Astarion
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>>521486914
based
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>>521455289
Who wouldn’t?
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>>521484095
absolute vincke
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We need to talk about how Astarion feels indifferent to sacrificing 7,000 souls if it means he can enjoy the sunlight again.
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>>521487347
pookie can get whatever he wants what's the issue
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>>521486818
>>521486914
based
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Swen hates wyll and his fans.
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>>521487347
One companion I like or 7000 of unnamed NPCs and Sebastian
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Cazador's spawn are invulnerable and protected from all damage including sunlight. Does he really need the ritual?
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7,000 innocent people damned to an eternity in hell is too abstract for someone like Astarion to comprehend. It doesn’t matter that Astarion killed a significant portion of that 7,000 himself, including the children, because his personal comfort is his only priority
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How many of those does patch 8 bring back?
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>>521489498
Are you stupid?
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>>521489498
>merkel
who
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>>521489065
Name all 7000 people if you care so much
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>>521489498
The “durge cut ending” is still in the game apparently. The Gale enjoyer proved this in a screenshot a week or so ago
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>>521490251
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Patch 8 should replace voice 6
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>>521489907
That isn’t the point tho. It’s to Astarion’s benefit that those people are not damned because it affects what happens to his soul in the afterlife. Technically they are already damned, but something something plot device
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>>521492392
>that windup
>Aradin, a peasant lad that fights for a living, remains perfectly static
I clapped
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>>521491929
You didn't name all 7000, you don't really care
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>>521492486
>fights
more like runs
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>>521492486
Its slowed down for the audience, Zevlor just uses time powers to punch faster than sound
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>>521492738
True. But Astarion has picked over 7000 locks and I care about that. It would be a shame to see him burn in hellfire when I have the means to prevent it
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Swen said that if updates were restaurants Patch 8 would get 3 Michelin stars.
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Shit. FORM A LINE!!
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>>521492392
He hit me and it felt like a kiss
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>>521493201
Ascended sister...
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>>521487223
i wouldn't
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Swen the bg3 director just confirmed the new jojo part
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Sun King
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ascending astarion so he can eat chicken nuggies again
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>>521493862
This scares Welch and the morality police
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>>521493862
No. You do it for SEX. That's your FETISH. You like to be CHOKED. All you want from ascending is your KINK. You don't care about Astarion. You want BDSM vampire DADDY. It's all a game to you.
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Only 3 days and I can finally leave this SHIT general to play the game in peace.
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>>521495240
gtfo welch you're not welcome here
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>>521495240
Let me see your pedo RE fics Welch
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>>521495240
Option 1. I like Astarion. I enjoy being sexually humiliated, devalued, and abused. Astarion tainted my soul and made me worthless. I like that.
Option 2. I’m retarded. I think ascending Astarion is the greater good.
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>>521495810
Trvke
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How are you supposed to unlock things without Astarion? Just burning a billion spell slots for knock?
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>>521496419
Literally any dex character can pick locks.
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I just want to not be an asshole. Why does everyone think that means I'm hitting on them? I think Wyll is the only one who hasn't done this.
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>>521496419
The "easiest" way to compensate for the lack of a dex character would be to get the dex Gloves and use Astral Knowledge: dex on Lae'zel.
Then she's basically your lockpick.
Sleight of Hand prof is also availble via some backgrounds, so unless your dex is completely abysmal, that works too.
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>>521496883
>I just want to not be an asshole.
Blame the writers that the only options given are
>Yeah i wanna fuck
>No you're ugly
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>>521496419
Lae'bae is true to her word where she can make up for whatever weakness you have in your party, her astral knowledge allows her a multitude of abilities
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>>521496419
ummm no just use these gloves
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>>521497917
Holy based
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>astarion stop!
>wait lemme eat a couple more of those soul coins soulja
why is she so poorly written/executed
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>>521497917
>swapping equipment situationally
Yeah sorry but you didn't beat the game
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>>521498523
steeped in bliss is good too

>>521499039
this is a solo game i'm not apologizing
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>>521498728
Person I was playing with wanted to kill all the vampire spawn because vampires are evil and would hurt people, but also didn't want to ascend Astarion because killing them that way was bad because it shouldnt be "like that"
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>>521499358
>because it shouldnt be "like that"
what the fuck does that even mean
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>>521497917
Gale would approve of this toolbar
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>>521499358
Why are goodfags like this?
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>>521499358
This is objectively the most reasonable reaction to that quest
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>>521500475
condemning astarion and 7000 others to a life time of thirst is reasonable?
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>>521500596
Mercy kill the 7000(that Astarion destroyed) and leave Astarion is his fate/penance. The alternative is damn 7000 people to hell. Are you retarded?
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How do you craft le perfect OCD playthrough without tons of hours reading guides? Any mods you recommend?

I want to get all the coolest options for Shadowheart, get all the right gear for my build, kill all the bad people like Astolrion, yada yada yada

Should I wait for patch 8 to start my (second) playthrough? I don't have tons of mods just QOL
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>>521500826
>>521500596
Still didn't name the 7000 spawn
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>>521500826
He'll isn't real and even if it was they deserve it
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>>521499836
Idk
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>>521500475
yeah maybe if you're a faggot
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>>521498728
She was rewritten and revoiced, rushed and the upper city got cut
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>want to play bg3 desperately on my new 4k qd oled
>5080s available for 1400
>5090s still sold out below 3k
tempted to buy the 5080 for bg3 since it'd run it at 200 fps or thereabouts, but if I ever play a game with raytracing like cyberpunk, 5080 is trash
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Astarion lacks the maturity and intelligence to handle power, so even if you can excuse damning the 7000, he’s guaranteed to misuse the gift and destroy even more lives. He killed children and shows no remorse. I see no reason to even consider ascension, especially when it is only possible by your choice, meaning the result has an impact on your soul as well. Secondly, even if the spawn are already doomed, killing them is the greater good because they are guaranteed to destroy and kill if allowed to go free. But by killing them, you prevent tragedy, and send the spawn to the Fugue Plane at the worst
>but pookie is thirsty
As a result of his own choices? He should be grateful to be alive at all given the tragedy he is responsible for. Imagine killing thousands of people and complaining that you will be “forced” to spend the rest of your life in mild discomfort
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>>521478208
Unfortunately it is ass
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>>521503474
>Imagine killing thousands of people and complaining that you will be “forced” to spend the rest of your life in mild discomfort
But none of them died though
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Everybody assumed the 7000 6993 people were already dead, so really it's just continuing business as normal, who cares?
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Shadowheart would make a great Paladin especially for violating her oath.
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>>521499039
>using the equipment that's good for certain situations situationally
>"UM ACKTUALY U DIDN BEAT THE GAME"
Are you retarded?
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>>521507940
Yeah, why?
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>>521508334
It makes sense.
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>>521508581
Baldurs Gate 3 is the only crpg I've beaten without turning down the difficulty
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>>521509056
That makes sense since other crpgs are designed for people with brains.
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should I finish the game first as a custom char or can I start as a dark urge? I want to do a redemption arc
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>>521509381
Take it back
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Patch 8 should have had astral self instead of drunken master.
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And this is the punishment for the Paladin, Shadowheart, after she violated her oath. Of course, Viconia will be taking her down later to have the rest of the coven violate her for hours.
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>>521509496
I did Dark Urge as my first playthrougg and I liked it a lot, I think it works fine as an introduction, though like be aware that like it like locks some stuff about your character's backstory in place (though you can flavor it), it's more like getting your own companion quest
Is good
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>>521509664
shadelelier
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>>521509661
Have you considered just installing a mod if you want to play a class Larian hasn't implemented yet?
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>>521509664
Yup not a debutante
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>>521509972
Mods are cheats.
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>>521478979
Don't fall for memes. Shadowheart approves of polyamory if the player proposes it first. She's never the one to initiate. There's no sneaking around behind Tav's back.

Minthara is unapologetically power hungry and immoral, but also very sweet and capable of loving deeply. I enjoyed her romance a lot. You don't have to be evil, just don't be a total pushover. Have a healthy amount of pragmatism and self interest.
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> She's never the one to initiate. There's no sneaking around behind Tav's back.
here we go with the lies again
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>>521510203
A class mod doesn't beat the game for you though and won't really change the difficulty. It just lets you choose another subclass at level 3, etc. It's the exact same thing Larian is doing in Patch 8.
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>>521510754
>>521510614
Can we stop talking about her sex life for 5 seconds talk about patch 8 or the upcoming space larian rpg
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>>521511139
BG3 is all about sex.
>space larian rpg
Meh. Space is boring. Science fiction stuff even moreso.
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>Withers beings up interesting point that mindflayers don't have souls, and that gods get their power from souls
>says to think on that and ehy the dead three would be using mindflayers as an army
>think it's really interesting and wonder where that's gonna go
>beat game
>it went literally nowhere and was never brought up again
What???????
What was all that about?
Even if like you like take it to mean that was a hint that the absolute had had plans of its own that it had set in motion before being dominated, and that that was meant to hint that it was a plot from the Netherbrain rather than the chosen 3, does thay mean that the Dead three and their chosen just.... didnt think about it? Did I misunderstand what Withers was saying in the first place? Did I miss something? Is the game finished? Do you think love can bloom even on a battlefield?
I feel like I'm going nuts
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>>521511139
>space larian rpg
Divinity bros....
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>>521511079
Don't let the namefag see this
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>>521511502
DND is boring too and larian managed to make it cool, mindflayers and githyankis used to be irrelevant mid level enemies and now they're very popular
>>521511713
Swen needs all the money he can get to make dos3 the ultimate rpg
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>>521511695
Just a pointless lore dump
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>>521511695
Everything about ceramorphis got scrapped, daigo got retconned, the ring that stopped you from turning into a squid got retconned, and larian can't make up their mind on whether illithids got souls or not, the game was rushed
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>>521512272
Daisy*
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>>521512480
>>521512272
Who's Daigo/daisy?
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If y'all really think about it, ceremorphosis is like SRS. Mind flayers are enby
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>>521512559
>Daigo
A typo
>daisy
Your tadpole who was supposed to tempt you to embrace ceramorposis and got replaced by the dream guardian, down by the river, bg3's theme was about that character
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>>521512727
On god?
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>>521511695
>gods get their power from souls
>mindflayers don't have souls
>therefore, turning people into mindflayers denies the gods the souls they need for their power
The Dead Three were trying to declare war on the other gods after weakening them. Meanwhile, they would remain unaffected since THEIR followers weren't infected.
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The dead three should have just stolen the tablets of destiny again
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Does the mind shielding ring that you can get in the underdark have any effect on the brain scan the gith put you through?
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>>521511695
I think Withers asking himself about this, is stupid to begin with.
Never is it stated that turning *everyone* into squids is the Dead Three's endgame, they want to use the Illithid hivemind to keep people under control but the special thing about the Tadpoles is that they can hold off the Cermorphosis indefinitely.

Withers just completely pulls that one out of his ass.
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>>521511695
>>521513127
>>521513534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywUH0q4z9SU
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>>521513127
Don't the other gods like already lose worship by virtue of being convinced to worship something else?
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>>521513907
Yeah I didn't understand what that was supposed to mean either
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cop or not?
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The only of the Dead Three's motivations that makes any sense to me is Bhaal, just because Sarevok, when he was dead, dreamt/went to a place where he was on a red planet wandering after even the stars were going out, kind of to me implying that's if like Bhaal murdered literally everything possible, including ending up killing the gods too, since the statues talk about slaying the God of death
But Bane and Myrkul don't really want that so idk why they'd sign on for this plan (but also I never really understood why "Tyranny" is a part of the death pantheon anyway, so what do I know?)
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>>521514973
Yeppers
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>>521514973
cop
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>>521497725
She's so incredibly pretty.
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>>521515881
yep she is beautiful both inside and out
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>>521475536
i posted she 2 years ago when the game came out so probably

i just really like that pic of her specifically hence the occasional repost
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>>521514141
Yeah, but a good miracle or smiting could bring people back to worshipping them. Just evaporating their souls completely removes them as a factor.
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We love wyll, minsc and halsin.
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>>521516512
Wyll and Minsc are great, but I do not care for Halsin.
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>>521516512
Big H mogs both
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>>521515075
>But Bane and Myrkul don't really want that so idk why they'd sign on for this plan
It's an alliance of convenience, hence both Myrkul and Bhaal were outright planning to betray the others and i somehow doubt that Bane willing to honor the alliance.

The whole Dead Three thing is just 3 assholes working together because everyone else hates them and can't do enough by themselves.
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tactician or balanced for solo run? karlach origin for it
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>>521519087
tactician and wild magic only
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>>521511695
Denying other gods the souls of the transformed weakens them directly, while also strengthening the Dead Three, by plunging the world into tyranny and murder. (I'm essentially just repeating >>521513127.) They don't need the mind flayers as an actual army, as stated above. It's a power play that makes a lot of sense considering the Dead Three were relegated to quasi-deities and had little to lose, so to speak. Note that this is a rather cynical portrayal of gods as powerful entities who only care about mortals for the currency of their souls. It's the reason someone like Mystra even gets involved. Almost makes you sympathize with Ketheric.
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Any tips on the Lorroakan fight?
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>>521487347
If you stop him, he thanks you for not letting him slip into the temptation. That, combined with the fact that he lays low in his spawn ending and sticks to only eating bad guys, means he's not really that bad all things considered as long as Tav doesn't encourage him to be worse.
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>>521520939
he has like 140 hp just kill him in one turn using any of your characters lol
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>kill Cazador 1 turn before his ritual is complete
>hunters come in and call me a fool for allowing him to get stronger before killing him
But I didn't?
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>>521521297
His minions seem to dodge every physical attack I dole out
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>>521522214
>>521522214
>>521522214
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>>521516131
>yep she is beautiful both inside and out
she has a fucking parasite behind her eyes



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