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i just peepee poopoo my pants...
>/wtg/ - War Thunder Genera
Please stop typing kekaroo, it's very cringe
>>521281136i now only see that ghibli version from the thumbnail now, god help me.honestly though i prefer seeing that one since at this point this image is just a giant shitpost and contributes nothing so either way it works, i suppose.
catch my vikhr…
>low tier russia
>зoбpaжeння
what about it
>>521043714
>>521282695>team game thing>based tranny planeswhere's nigger on this image? we're really racist it should almost be as big as game
>>521282695>troon spaa
>>521282695>fun general
>>521282695>tranny planes>play tankTANK. GAME.
>>521283047>>521283308troon spaa and trang planes. the message is clear. naval
Is the 2B any fun?
>>521283990fixed
this is completely not worth it even at this discount isn't it? looks fuckawful.
>>521284167Rarely
>>521284167I always used it exclusively. Over-cover kills are just too satisfying.
>>521286938depends on how good you are at ranging shots and knowing where to overpressure
>>521286894unfortunately, Top Gun 2 was good so I cant hate the F/A-18
>>521288234so it's shit, got it.
>current: Mirage IIIC>new grind tom: F-8E(FN) (258,737/260k) 2 left to get out rank 7 kino5 jets left till rafale
>>521291098so 260K per rank 7 jet and 400K per rank 8 jet>520K + 1,230M = 1,730M RP>100K+ a day = ~17 days left>or max 200K a day = 8.5 days leftfuck im nearly there
>>521291098Keep at it, I enjoy seeing your progress, reminds me of the days where I could get through a tree in a couple of weeks.
>versus ussr>low tier>anytime you kill a stalinium tank you just get strafed by 20 yak9s>top tier>get bombed by 20 SUswhy even play any other country?
>>521292068thanks, i was just getting a little better in gaining rp's i need in less than 2-3 hours per day
>>521282394based beyond belief
>>521292572skill issue. I mog rusissies on the regular
I'm sure this will be an easy way to make money and it certainly won't activate the hard mode convicted rapist matchmaker. It doesn't pay all that well either, it's biggest advantage is making me play the good money printer line up for at least 10 games
>all those upgrades and still no upgraded enginesWhy? There are like a billion F-5 modernization programs and none of them feature new engines
>>521297913Probably isn’t much new that fits in there, which would mean an airframe redesign. New electronics is a lot simpler in comparison
>>521297332I just did one of those and only missed it once even had 6 boosters running after getting like 30 of them from the boxes the real cock torture starts when you activate the golden wagers, I still have 15 commander ones sitting around
>enemy says "don't spawn" in chat>I win the game 10 seconds laterI love chink hours, thank you for the win bonus.
>>521298853>the real cock torture starts when you activate the golden wagersI'm not doing that ever again, I'd get into day trading if I wanted to die from stress.
>>521297913new engines are too expensive of an upgrade for a cope fighter like the F-5
>>521297332It's 5 kills in GRB.Play a stacked line up like BR 4.0 Russia and you will get 5 kills by accident.The only problem with that wager is having to play GRB.
why the fuck is every wall in this game made out of industrial glue?
>>521301909I don't play boring BRs.
>>521283383
>>521297332i just did that an hour agoit was fine the first couple matches then instantly i started going 0-4 (or 4-0? all deaths) and the one match i did actually do good in, everyone kept stealing my kills
when?
reminder to join Nigger 508 if you actually want 20k lmao
>join trannysquad #2 but with extra chinks to pad it outNo thanks
I have enough vehicles now, time to move on
>>521281136>>521281494uhoh ( ω )pantsu shittod
>>521297913There's no space for a new engine without major redesign, same thing happened to the Gripen
>want to grind SL in my F2G>activate boosters>matchmaking takes it's sweet time to match me with 15% WR retardsthanks.
>>521291098You didn't get the m2k-s4? Has less CMs than the s5 but still pretty good with the missiles it has.
It's Friday /wtg/
>>521316268>nothing but sparks the whole match>not even enough damage to get assistsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>521316463it’s fantastic at 12.3
>6.0>constant 7.0 uptiers against jets you can't even touch played by fags who keep avoiding youfun.
All BI players should get their fucking balls surgically removed with a hammersovgroids suffer
>pissrael meteor event is over exam timeTHANK you gaydjin
I HATE MISSILES I HATE MISSILES I HATE AIRSPAWN """"""""""""ATTACKERS"""""""""""" THAT ARE JUST FUCKING FIGHTERS WITH AN IMMENSE CRUTCH FOR TURBO SHITTERS I HATE FIDDIES IN JETS I HATE SOVGROIDS I HATE GERMUTTS
>>521318601>fags who keep avoiding youskill issue. im playing chess while youre playing checkers>flies into ground while dogfighting you
>>521320359play spaa
>>521320550playing ARB
>>521320651right now i just sharply inhaled in a manner similar to a mechanic who is about to charge you two and a half thousand dollars when you only came in to get your air conditioning fixedjust wanted you to know thatanyway good luck with your missile hellhope u have fun vro
https://warthunder.com/en/news/9464-special-celebrating-international-day-of-human-space-flight-with-a-decal-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9464-special-celebrating-international-day-of-human-space-flight-with-a-decal-enhttps://warthunder.com/en/news/9464-special-celebrating-international-day-of-human-space-flight-with-a-decal-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9464-special-celebrating-international-day-of-human-space-flight-with-a-decal-en
Game is just pure slop now, try adding some good new maps or new fun limited time modes
>a bug that caused players to be awarded with research points and silver lions after participating in battles has been fixed
>>521321764It's no wonder why they never fix volumetric now, it gives the biggest advantages to Russian WWII shitboxes and their blackhole armor
>>521322648>good new mapsWhen was the last time they made one of those would you say?
>>521321764We should stop celebrating the space race.When aliens come and ask "How did humans first get to space?", we will have to say "On a rocket designed as an intercontinental missile to carry thermonuclear warheads to our enemies. In a capsule designed for photographic spy missions because we wanted to know how many intercontinental missiles our enemies were building at the same time. But we really are peaceful now. Please trust us, fellow peaceful space travelers."
>>521309384Why did Japan get napkin tanks to fill up the WW2 part of their tech tree but France didn't?
>>521323771Would be absolute kino to fight a war against someone who is not human, zero remorse or human rights, total earth supremacy
should I F-14B?
>>521322648I just want EC ARB
>>521323541Seversk-13
>>521303757when will this be added?
Is there any point in the time where russian planes are better than mutt?maybe mig-15 era? or yak3/9?
>>521324378If they've come here then they're more than likely going to kick the shit out of us in a war.
>>521325080All eras if you're talking about the run of the mill America player.
>>521324378Bro if there is a species that can cross the inconceivable vastness of space it's either going to be a civie colonization effort that doesn't know we're here or a war party that will erase us.
Christ, why did they never give t he MiG15 a G-Suit. Its like playing "Lost Control" simulator.
>>521324378I do not wish to fight wars against extraterrestrial beings or dissect their bodies in any secret laboratories. Neither do I wish to have sexual intercourse with the females of their species. I do not object to earth being conquered and am willing to point out any "earth supremacists" to the occupying security forces.
>>521325114>>521325251Sorry but we have enough nukes to blow any alien fleet to kingdom come, space niggers would get btfo
>>521326584We already have the tech to intercept that shit right now. Aliens are going to destroy them before they even leave the atmosphere proper.
There is nothing out there.
>>521326714Just spam them, we got an entire planet of resources, they got some rinky dink space ships and fancy alien lasers
Why are some Sabre pilots such pussies, flying a MiG15 (non-BIS) vs a F-86F-2 Sabre and every time I turn in on him the raging cunt just beelines straight for his airfield. Give up chasing him when the defense missiles start flying and return to try and shoot someone else on his team. As soon as I get near one of his teammates, lo and behold the raging cunt returns and starts spraying his cannons all over the place. So I turn back in on him, and what do you know it, the cunt beelines for the airfield again. What type of twat plays like that? Surely the F-86F-2 outperforms the MiG15 in most areas except for instantaneous turn performance? Roll, Speed, Energy retention all favour it do they not?
If the Sabre is an American plane, why is it called Sabre and not Saber?
>>521328932copyright issues with fate IIRC
>>521328932Maybe the divergence of Sabre and Saber only became literary standard later.
Whats betterF-2 SabreF-2 panzer IVF-2 Bf109
>>521329448sasuga type moon
>>521330471Saber obviously. Planes > Tanks.
>>521330596There is no plane called Saber.
>>521331207source?
>>521331207>he doesn’t knowSometimes it’s nice to live in Nevada
>>521331207Whats it like to be WRONG?
>>521331207>Saberthe cutest princess
>>521332150you mean king
>>521332150for me it's this saber (male)
>>521331725What's the BR?
>>521332341A king I would follow, to whatever end.
>>521332581Where's that from?
>>521333620samurai remnant
>>521332150sex
>>52133264811.3
>>521324406No
Do the needful.
sneedful
>uhmm yeah so this light tank sucks against other tanks of the same time period so we will make it face stuff 30 years older
>>521336863Proably better that way, later stuff has more thin skinned light shit it can blow up.
>>521336825Join LowIQ
>>521336863Yes and?
>>521337371>>521337534Light tanks are supposed to be vulnerable. Time travelers rulling certain tiers just make the game more dumb.
Is this an upgrade over the regular MiG15 or no?
>>521337882Yes. It has a G-Suit, thus it's useable.
>>521337882It has a significantly stronger engine, what do you think?
>>521337721No such thing happens in the game
>>521338039>BMP-3, 2S38, BMD-4, PT-76-57 don't exist in game
>>521337882It's better but you will be facing considerably stronger planes. Also it doesn't fix the planes main issues which are bad roll speed and bad guns
>>521338978MiG-15 guns aren't bad learn to aim retard
>>521339119They are not very good when shooting at high speed targets
>>521339474get right up their arse and they work just fine.
>>521337438I'm already in...
>>521339474Try the Mk 108 and you will never complain about the 2x23/1x37 anymore
>>521338978Just out of curiosity, what would you say is the best plane of that BR?
>>521341235f-86-25 and mig-15bis. The bis is just not as oppressive in downtiers and has a lot more issues uptiers
>>521307593Only with a destroy 10 units wager do I get fucking assists with the soviet 122.
>>521342789Its why I've never used my Golden Battles wagers, I just know as soon as I turn that shit on, I'm going to be in a well of suffering for the next 10 games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-b51C82-UE>some guy used minecraft voxel logic to turn cheap video cameras into optical sensors that can detect stealth aircraftI'm sure there are countermeasures for this like decoys but the fact that it works at all means that "stealth" fighters are pretty much cooked.
>>521338978Nigger are you implying it's somehow bad? It's beyond fucking broken at 8.3 and should've never went down from 8.7. No plane is optimal in uptiers but it doesn't see anything it can't at least defend against indefinitely with its insane energy generation. Abysmal dogshit like the F9F-8 or the F-84F wishes it was half as good as the MiG-15bis. Hell, there are planes 0.3 BR HIGHER that are incomparably worse than it like the A-4B, the FJ-4B or (to a lesser extent) the Yak-23 and Yak-30D.
>sav >full down tierman I feel so bad about those poor guys
>>521344287>flies further away
>don't think my enemies deserve to kill me>go back to the airfield and J outlmao
>>521344287What a great system that I'm sure won't have any issues at night, or in clouds, or in shitty weather, or anywhere but perfectly clear skies.
>>521344287now shoot him down
>>521345293Thats not the point, the point is a cheap mesh detection network, that can work even if the rest of your AD network is non functional.
>>521341235Mig-15Bis Ish
How will this affect the current and future Leopard 2s in WT?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwUzZV6OayU
it won't, not war thunder
>>521345219Poor visibility works both ways, aircraft like to be able to see their targets. And it's a big problem for jets when simple cameras can track them.
nigga still thinks we're daylight bombing like its 1943
>>521345493Ok, so now that you can track it, how are you supposed to destroy?
>>521347127We need to return to tradition. Abandon multi-role tri-service shit. Bring back one aircraft for each type of mission and bring them in light, medium, heavy and super heavy variants.
>>521347187Fire on it, obviously, loft your missiles into its general area, hope they can track it when they get closer. Either way the RWR on the plane will be going off like mad, so it will be forced to turn cold and perhaps turn a sub-optimal facing towards your radars, as well as light their afterburners and provide a better IR track.Not everything has to provide direct means to a kill, even knowing where the plane is and what heading its on can be useful.
>>521347127This shit being on the TV every evening when I was doing my homework was a big part of my formative years. Shit was so kino.
>>521331725Damn, warthunder needs fun planes like that.
No, It doesn't.
>>521348227fpbp
>maybe 30km detection range under very ideal conditions>high chance of confusing it with anything elseFun backyard project but it'd be retarded to think it has any real purpose.
>>521347978You were in school back in 91? What are you doing in my zoomer game old man?
>matchmaker takes a minute after using a boosterIt's gonna be one of those huh
>>521344421No but Mig-15 is better for its br
Has Gaijin acknowledged how fucking shit the current implementation of tank thermal sights is?
>>521348830Yeah, I like tanks and planes, what else am I gonna play? World of Tanks?
>>521349668Arma 3 modded
>>521348413Thats not the kind of attitude that earns you millions in DARPA research contracts.
>>521349734Way too janky and unoptimized. Want to have a draw distance above 2 km? Kiss your FPS goodbye fucker. Not to mention a lot of stuff, especially about A2A combat, is grossly simplified.
>>521349734the arma series is primarily focused on infantry combat, the vehicle combat is completely dogshit, mught as well be wot because the tanks have (invisible) healthbars and will explode after being hit by 3 tank shells even if those shells did literally nothing to the internal modules or crew
Finally done with that Early German jet shite. Gave up on them all in the end and went back to the Ta152. He162 seemed the best of them all, decent guns, fast enough so long as you don't let it get slow, can perma WEP at 105-106% depending on map.
>>521350154He 162 is a pure BnZ. But if you turn against better props its basically suicide because it can't accelerate.Ho 229 has good guns and turns a lot but it's overtiered.Me 262 overall sucks and should be 6.7 max.
>>521350154>He162 seemed the best of them all
>F-5TH still missing 2 missile pylons
>>521352147What? It's not that bad.
>>521352359Wait 2+ years for them to realize that upgrades of vehicles already in the game don't suddenly lose very basic and important features.Source: multiple years of the Q-5L not having flares despite being a much more modern variant of the plane than any other in the game. Did I mention it STILL doesn't have any A2A missiles?
>>521351152>Ho 229 has good guns and turns a lotIts shite. No yaw. its a massive struggle to get your guns anywhere near the target. Sure you can loop around them all day long, but fuck you if you need any lateral aim correction. Its even worse in ground attack because the lack of yaw there really really fucks it, you just have to spray in the general area of your target and hope some of your shots hit. Its also utterly dire as soon as any part of your wing is red of black, so basically the entire place, as it cuts your speed near in half. Terrible terrible plane. It would have been better if they put bombs in it instead of the Arado and put the cannons from the Ho229 in the Arado instead. I fucking hate that plane.
>>521352147>no it's just hawker harrier using more than 90% throttle
>>521352765I don't think it's THAT bad, but it faces some of the problems of the Me 262, which is facing +7.7 planes.
229 is like delta wing, it turns a lot, but only once or twice before it burns all the energy
>>521352147>It's just a soviet BI using 30% throttle
B-47 Stratojet whenB-36 Peacemaker whenB-57 Canberra whenB-52 Stratofortress whenXB-70 Valkyrie whenYA-9 when
>>521355212For me it's the XB-51.
>>521355212>B-57 Canberra when11 years ago.
>>521355802For me it's the original hustler... what a stupid fucking name.
Is it worth carrying a pair of rocketpacks on the MiG15 Bis to use as impromptu flares?
>>521355802Mate, someones put your engines in the wrong place.
>have not played in a month>still in WARTG
>>521356229Kino plane, just you and the gang off to nuke the commies back to the stone age.
>>521357265Wait, how did their ejection seats work with those roofs?
>>521357558Ejection seats?
LUL
>3 kills>7 assistsReal Destroy 10 Units hours
>>521356793No
>Red Desert>European Province>Fulda>Any Conquest map
Fulda my beloved
>>521357558Same way literally every system works?
Why the hell is this thing worth 6000+ GE
>>521356793You're better off just turning, the rockets will only drag you down at 8.3 where the only real missile threat are the 38s in 9.3 battles.
>>521360690Somewhat hindered by there being a big ass metal canopy in the way anon.
>>521286894kekd
Is there an easy way to snag the last one of this?
>>521361684as apposed to the big ass glass canopy in the way for normal planes?
>>521361495Should've done the needful, it was free.
>>521361890Forgot image.
>>521362123plexiglass canopys have explosive cutaways, that big ass metal thing clearly doesnt.
>>521362161play 4.0 botes afterhours and you'll wind up being 2v2 against chinks/bots. super easy.
>>521323771Shut the fuck up, nerd. The aliens will learn that it is man who has dominion over this universe.
>ITP M1 still op
>>521323541advance to the rhine
F-18 MEGADETH when?
>>521364130This wouldn't be able to take off.
>>521363219Did an alien probe your anus?
>>521364130Least excessive payload in Ace Combat
>>521364525Assuming they were on Earth, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they did in fact probe Uranus and all other planets in the Solar system.
>>521364130The stabilizers have hardpoints with dumb bombs kek
>>521362161I get those all the time while playing ARB
it's up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVZU6i8qme0
procure advertisement rights
>finally get something decent>it's a boring ass smug pirate icon
Purchase commercial webspace
Why ground niggas get to have cool fighter pilot profile pic >:( fuck you man
im in a SU-27 and am fighting a F-14. He gets a Fox-2 off and i fly behind terrain to break lock. i evade the missile, i fire my R-27ER in a head on and kill him. ">fucking russian bias" he puts in chat. check his profile and he is a serial Germany main. Why are they like this?
fuckin hate it at 11.0missile slinging CM-using pieces of shit
Gaijin needs to do a fast and furious themed event for the next April Fool's. You got the tank from 6 and the planes from 8 and 9.
>>521368251forgot picrel
>>521364130Gonna be so much drag on that that its gonna be flying in reverse.
I had a dream in which Anton told me they added a lot of self propelled artillery to work as tank destroyers because missile carriers are useless on almost all maps.Is this true?
>Driving King Tiger 10.5cm>Shoot T44-100 in turret to clutch the match, stop him decapping>Commander dies. Thats it. Nothing else.>Drives round the side of me and one taps me in return.Done a double take to see if I was using APCR or som shit by accident, but nope, regular ass PzGr.Rot APCBC with explosive filler. I was so rustled I forgot to check the shot after the battle to see how the fuck that even happened.
AMX-50 Foch? based.
>>521369580deserved for playing papershit
>>521369580fantasy tank, fantasy experience
>>521368607just wait until we get>M37>M>M7>M52>M55>M107>M108>M110>Grille>Wespe>Abbot>Deacon>Bishop>Sextonand thats just from the top of my headand to make things worse, a lot of them can be shoehorned into half a dozen trees (or more)
What gets better ground matchmaking: 9.0 or 8.7?
>>521371005>be gay>worry about matchmaking because sweet little baby can't emotionally handle being uptiered in a video game.
>>521371005They get uptiered roughly the same amount.But 9.0 can usually deal with 10.0 a little bit better than 8.7 can deal with 9.7. I suppose it depends on what nation you're playing, really.
>>521369661>>521369979Paper/Fantasy stuff is fun, stop being autistic and boring. Be easier to balance if all the stats are made up too.
>>521371565>>521369661>>521369979Besides that I want my Hitler UFO.
>>521371817
>>521371565Paper is one thing, but a 105mm Tiger II was never considered.Same reason i shit on Panther II, it was never intended to mount a 88.
>>521371817The Ruhrstahl X-4 is acceptable for War Thunder but the Heinkel Lerche is pure napkinwaffe.
how rare are the coelian, panther II, and kt 105 nowadays?
>>521371817>>521372998To be fair, the Germans do kinda need something between their overBRed late war jets and their MiG15-Bis
>>521371565Me 328 as a Me264 modification that allows you to lunch it from a plane like that hydroplane on USS Mississippi would be cool mechanic
>>521372664I use them both in my 7.0 lineup. Its kino.
>>521373298
>>521373245Nobody played the Coelian even when it was obtainable, it's just an overtiered Ostwind.
>>521373873Would that rudder create downforce?
>>521373245Doubt they're all that rare, any older player will have them.
>>521373245pretty rare I would imagine considering most people started playing after 2021
>>521374337People played it because it was enclosed and isn't open-top. Nobody likes to play it now because they swiped the HVAP away from it that used to have like 137mm of pen and made it a viable light tank alternative.
>>521371817>>521371565true but we need massively more papershit in everyone's trees then.
>>521373245Probably rarer than Maus.
spaded the Su-27, it was surprisingly fun
>>521378038Probably because most opinions you heard on it were from the first year of its existence when it had a dogshit unplayable artificially gimped FM of its awful T-10 prototype. It's solid nowadays.
>artificially gimped FMmay we see it?
>>521378420the FM buff made a small difference it was never bad
>>521378659You can't, it's been ungimped.
>>521379254Cope, the plane was unusably bad before and hopelessly jobbed to everything, the buff wasn't small in the slightest since it now beats everything but the F-15A, EFT and Rafale if you play to its strengths.
>>521379760it was never unusably bad this is such nonsense copeyou barely played it in the first place kommyhuct
>le boogeyman out of nowhere
>>521378038How did you handle games before you got more missiles? It feels like pain before you get R-27ER
Kirishima>356mm ordinary SAP: 68kg equivalent>356mm common type 0: 31kg equivalent and its a tier 2 researchwut?
>country makes shit aircraft>said shit aircraft is properly represented in game>a-artificially gimped!
>>521380215difference in pen? SAP tends to be much higher HE load but less pen.
>>521380215>SAP vs APCount yourself lucky you even have SAP since the Japs didn't actually use it.
>>521380434SAP has a shit ton more pen, its just weird that the more useless HE shell is a higher tier research than the SAP
>>521380215besides not knowing why that garbage shell even existed I'm pretty sure a lot of modules on some vehicles, and especially ships, only exist to make the grind more bearable. Useless modifications existing means the other ones are cheaper.
>>521380125pretty much just stay on the flanks of the map and let ADHD brains get distracted in the swarm in the middle and kill them while they aren't paying attention
HELP ME! I CANNOT STOP PLAYING FRANCE!THE ONION, IT CALLS TO ME!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3BHyOhVXmE
>>521382510très basé
>frogniggers
>>521381092or are made pointless by antons constant fiddling and overhauling of mechanicsauxiliary and AA upgrades are mostly pointless after they 'solved' the ai gunner trick, and iirc the HE rework made the (already dubiously effective) shrapnel protection mod useless>>521380636i guess the idea is that the SAP shell isnt strong enough for capital ships, but too punchy for thin-skinned targetsergo you need to grind the HE and the AP shell to have a shell for every occasionbut id wager the SAP shell is just fine for most things that dont require a lot of pen, 14" holes are nothing to sneeze at, even if it overpens
>>521382045You just end with 0 kills or 1v9
>>521382805>t.austrian dog who didn't get to partake in the fried onions
>>521383146> iirc the HE rework made the (already dubiously effective) shrapnel protection mod uselessWait, shouldn't shrapnel protection be more important with HE works these days?
>>521383457onions are fucking disgusting
>>521383598HE currently has never been more impotent than ever
>>521383968Wasn't it supposed to completely fuck hull compartments with the last patch, or did they completely walk back on that?
>>521383598should be, yesbut i never had the feeling it did anything in the first place, and im pretty sure it didnt get buffed when they unfucked everybody's HEat least, i dont remember there being mention of it at the timeits entirely possible the new damage mechanics (god forbid we go without an overhaul every year or so) changed things again, but i havent played alot since the Strasbourg event ended
Ok Frenches, riddle me this. Why do you put a countermeasure box only on one side of the centerline, and not both for double the stuff?
>>521384053you mean the >ship will start losing buoyancy once two or more compartment turns blackmechanic? never seen it work ever. destroyers just get uncrewed before sections turn black cruisers and above don't seem to suffer from it
>1 enemy remaining>camps the airfield>all ai targets killed>3000 tickets remaining>14 minutes remainingWhy was the ticket system changed? Now it is impossible to end games with airfield campers in them. Before you could just kill ground targets and be done with the match. Now you need to waste 15 MINUTES because some faggot is afraid of leaving the spawn
>>521383753fried onions are godly
>>521383753
I'd like to penetrate Andou's LFP with my 120mm CUM BLAST munitions, if you catch my drift.
>>521383753https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m56BUVvT5s4learn to cook
>>521383753TRVKENVKE
>>521384790why would complain about it, you just get a fuckton more rp for doing nothing
So if someone launches an R-73 at you from about 2km you're just cooked right?
>>521384343It's kinda ridiculous that there's so many essential changes and so little explaination even people that have some naval trees ground out don't really know what the fuck is going on.>>521384654So they completely declawed it. Can't say I mind that, it sounded stupid.
>>521385073>learn to cook>posts grug tier "place food on fire" recipeI like townsends, but that one isn't really much of an example of "learning to cook".>>521385719If it's in rear aspect, yes, pretty much. Same with Magic IIs and that new chink missile on the J-11B.
>>521344287DoD drones made a response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRfh331wTCs
>queue as 4.7>get put into a 6.3 match somehowi dont have anything thats 5.3 in my lineup and neither does my squadmate
>>521377058I have no issues with that, give me all the wacky zany shit.
Why are obnoxiously undertiered discount versions of higher BR tanks allowed to exist in the game? I do not care X and Y doesn't have thermals or have a shitty engine they shouldn't be under the regular model's base BR
>>521386519name your lineups then? or post them?
>>521386519https://youtu.be/HXsU53Veupw
>[SEAD] Vietnam[SEAD] Vietnam>[SEAD] Vietnam[SEAD] Vietnam>[SEAD] Vietnam[SEAD] Vietnam
>>521386841Is there a new event coming up thats gonna use those?
>>521386841SEAD shouldn't be its own gamemode, it should be incorporated into EC and used there alongside other objectives. I can only hope it'll remain this way for the duration of the test only.
>>521386841>no F-8
>>521386841https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmQTYLD398
wtf is this lock shit? I have to paypig to get those?
>>521386205Is the opinion of that guy worth anything or is it complete garbage like >99% of youtube based "analysis"?
>>521387737yes
>>521286938It's pretty useless, but it's fun making everyone hear the >PFEEEEEEEWWWW PFEEEEEEEWWWW PFEEEEEEEEW PFEEEEEEEWsound
>>521387737of course. Only DRG offers free battlepasses
>>521386519Someone forgot to turn off RB/AB BR in tech tree.
>>521387273Seems trivial to implement it into EC once they figure out how the mechanics work and can be balanced.
>>521387796Former Marine and now a MIC enthusiast. Task&Purpose and Justin Taylor are the official dod shills on yt.
>>521386841>SEADDoes that mean anti radiation missiles?
>>521388254Yes.
>>521388048>Former MarineThat doesn't sound like a useful qualfication for this at all.>MIC enthusiastThat sounds like a disqualifier for impartial analysis.>Task&Purpose and Justin Taylor are the official dod shills on yt.That doesn't give much hope either.>>521388254What else would it mean? Flying around and dropping chaff courtains or switching a jamming pod on doesn't exactly sound like it would make fun gameplay.
>>521385727i dont know what it is with naval because they put a lot of time and effort in adding ships, reworking mechanics and whatnot, but completely ignore any feedback or complaints (or straight up lie)>you want decompression?>heres a bunch of dreads shitting up cruiser/dd BRs but you still face krokhorsts and shartstadts>bots are really worth as much as players! confirmed with devs! >next patch raises reward for killing bots to that of players>big threads on the AB aiming system and new damage mechanics>0 response from gaijin other than HK trying figure out how it works because gaijin doesnt explain anything whatsoever
>>521385073Eat onions fresh, roast apples.
>>521388254why would someone bomb irradiated areas?
>>521388605to spread the radiation around
>>521339119>>521338978The guns aren't bad. It just has a significantly higher skill floor than an american plane with 6 gorillion rounds of ammo.
>>521388254That means more one more argument to add MiG-25 to the game.
Are there any up to date m50 sights?
Words can not describe how much I hate tasks like this. 4 games, 25 or so kills in and I stil haven't gotten it, "easy" task my fucking ass.
>>521388254God I would love the sheer amount of impotent rage that adding ARM's to the game would cause the tankers to emit.
>>521379857>be missile bus Su-27>have terrible BVR performance due to its dogshit radar that has 8 seconds of delay before it rescans the target>has terrible brawling performance due to low countermeasure count and a flight model that loses to everything in a sustained fight>has the infamous 27ER...in the age when multipathing was 100m and the meta was to be a grippen that vaguely "stays low" with a 9M loadout while periodic flares stay on 24/7>It wasn't that bad back then guys.Nigger.
>>521390021....play with a squaddie anon. They go in a light tank, you go in whatever. They light shit up for you. Done.
>>521390021go airgo navalgo cado
>>521380258>country makes aircraft>gaijin used the wrong documents and models the plane after its weaker prototype and with the wrong oswald efficiency>it's shit in game>gaijin eventually fixes the mistakes>it's fine nowConstant and sharp
>>521390105>expecting good faith arguments from a buckbroken schizongmi
>>521390021>need this task>none of the mouthbreathing fucks marks targets>need assist task>all of your shots do fuck all of kills directly>need repair task>all friendlies repair before you get there or die instantlyit's always like this it's fucking rigged
>>521390561Amerika was saffering back then because it was the grippen that was the best plane in the game and the F-16 was only basically the same but without the infinite flares.
>>521390105it was always at least decent, stop sooking you victim complex faggot crybaby
>>521386635>>521387998no it was 100% 4.7 on both sidesive played this game for over 6000 hours and would notice such a mistake, we were both flabbergasted lol
>>521390081Most ground only players don't play SPAA. The retards you see seething about CAS on the forums and reddit usually don't even have one in their lineup.
did they nerf fiddies? They dont fucking do shit even with solid bursts on target.
>>521390081That's fine. I don't play in that br range anyway.
>>521391071You're overlooking something or getting some of the BRs wrong.
>tfw annihilating germutts and usamutts in the AMX-30(1972)TOTALFRENCHSUPERIORITY
>>521390961Its only silver lining was that it had a metric shit ton of missile hardpoints. This gave it a lot of potential to soak up kills since the average player is utterly dogshit. It consistently lost to everything in 1v1 dogfights between experienced pilots, and its weaknesses basically killed simulator battles since nobody would fucking queue for redfor due to how imbalanced the matchmaker was and how dependent that redfor teams were for the fence sitting nations to add some turncoat NATO planes to the red team.
>>521391071name your lineups then & game mode.
have rusmonkeys stopped crying once since the F-14A? Even when they get a decently competitive jet like the Su-30SM they still cry
the absolute state of cuckstal
truly the elite of the elite
>>521391779The 27 and 27SM were fine: once gaijin fixed all of the flightmodel and avionics errors that the russian players were legitimately complaining about.
>>521392158nah, this one tho
>>521392353but why would you buy vehicles you don't intend to play
>>521392296the Su-30SM is great but I still see little misha and vanya chimping about how bad pidarashia is
>>521391942>>521392158>>521392353where do you find these>2000are there even that many in the game
>>521392664steam achievements
yeah I'm thinking the achievements don't count for past performance
>>521392710guess not a lot of people play through steam theni know i dont
>>521392663They're not wrong. I've played both USA and USSR and things are much easier in the american birds. You're just plane worse on red team until you get your hands on at least the post-buff 27SM. Honorable mention to the Yak-141 and its whopping total of 4 missiles.
>>521392296They were fine against their peers, not the planes that one-upped everything in the game at that point (mainly the EFT and Rafale, the F-15E was actually somewhat balanced against them since it had the upper hand in BVR but was way more manageable after the merge). Although that's hardly a problem on the Flankers' part, everyone was oppressed by those two (three if you count BVR).>>521392663Stop making shit up. What people (occasionally) complain about are the R-77s and their still unmodelled drag, which isn't even that big of a problem since no sane person grinded the USSR to do BVR, not the Su-30SM itself. I've seen way more posts of people rejoicing about getting an answer to yurotriangles than the supposedly "frequent" crying you're crying about.
>>521393205the eurofighter still nigger rapes the Su-30SM because Russia couldn’t make competitive engines until like literally 2020
when are they going to fix the drag on the MICAs tho? 10km range is way too low....
>need to grind SL>grab my trusty (free talismanned) PBJ1H>perferct match where I BTFO a base, rape ground targets including tanks, get a kill assist on a fighter all match>17k SLthey're fucking with mehow 2 grind monies then
>>521393441>the eurofighter still nigger rapes the Su-30SMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFFjCbJYuY
>>521392961They're Steam achievements so they bloody well should.
>>521393578>PBJ-1J>unstoppable wager>boosters>antimech
>>521393609>MUH 1V1 GIMMICK DOGFIGHTS!!!you don’t play top tier, clearly
>>521394665And you don't play Sim where 1v1s happen all the time, clearly.
>>521393205>They were fine against their peersYou could do ok if you knew what you were doing. Especially if we're considering the pre-nerf mig-23. But if we compare the average grind today of someone doing something like:>mig-23ML to research low ranks and unlock Yak-141 to club wallet warriors and grind out the flankersto>F-4S to research low ranks and unlock the AV-8B Plus to club wallet warriors and grind out the F-15sThen things are significantly easier for the blue team.Things could still be worse. They could be fucking Germany and get fucking nothing but the shitnado or Su-22 prior to the F-4 ICE and eurofighter, but USA is still ezmode.
>>521393757I think the problem is that gaijin doesn't track shit until they decide to track it, I highly doubt I've spent less then 1% of my total gameplay time in matchesespecially, when I have a video celebrating my 1000th AGM kill on the Etendard IVM ALONEgod knows how many AGMs and PGMs i've dropped since 2021
>>521394738nobody plays sim
Aced the Turms III, that was fun
Smoke screen and 4.1s reload for the CV90120 soon
>>521394853I mean, really? I've been CASnigging for four years since my 1000nd
hopefully never
>spend all your time worrying about numbers>not just playing what you enjoy
>>521394853>900 ground killwhoops, just trust me bro, I got the remaining 100 in like a week or three ok?
>>521394665kek he posts that video every time someone calls the 30sm dogshit
>>521357558they used an escape pod
>>521356229Why are the engines in pods? The Hustler always reminded me of those really late war german napkin bomber designs where they just strapped more and turbofan pods to wings and fuselage, which makes sense if you have about two weeks to design a plane but not really otherwise.
>>521395047>smoke screenI wonder why gaijin still hasn't fixed the thermals "bug" that lets you see through it
>>521395323I want my validation by Valva god damn itI didn't hover over the battlefield dropping hot loads on dumb SPAGGOTs for nothing
>>521393578If you have top tier USA planes, you can spam the F-15E with a ground attack loadout.>take ground attack loadout with twenty GBU-39s, six mavericks, and thermal pod>activate the not-thunderer wager. One of the wagers has "Thunderer" as one of its win conditions. The actual "Thunderer" wager stops accepting planes at rank 7 for god knows what reason. I think gaijin simply forgot to update it when they added rank 8.>fly within 30km of the frontline while praying clouds don't get in the way>drop a GBU-39 on every target that you can before the incoming Fox-3s force you to notch.>activate antimech order since now you at least have successfully gotten off ~8-12 GBU-39s>drop the rest of your GBU-39s>find the moving tank column>drop mavericks on them from ~9km out.>You still have ~4 SPAMRAAMs. Go have fun and try to kill some players I guessThe individual payout per mission isn't that great compared to something like a big naval match, so SL boosters aren't that effective. However the matches are fast. I've gotten ~110k SL for 5 minute matches where I have 40 seconds of activity time.I'm surprised I don't see more americans do this.
>>521395515>video showcasing plane 1 performing well against other plane 2 when both are piloted by experienced pilots... le invalid and bad and doesn't prove plane 1 is good
>>521395849Not a bug, that's how ESS works.
>>521395812>Why are the engines in pods? TI don't know, but I assume that it's easier to replace or perform maintenance on the engines that way.
>>521395849>I wonder why gaijin still hasn't fixed the thermals "bug" that lets you see through itThat's not a bug. There's different types of smoke and not all of them obscure thermals.
>>521394853Yeah but it's a Steam achievement and you have 7k playtime on Steam. It does work on my machine.
>>521395849>I have never seen through an thermal optic sight before -the post
>>521396309I've been playing this game for 13 years through steamnone of these achievements were there when I started
>>521395972>>521396294understandable, I will dig into it>>521396313have you done that mr war veteran?
>>521396493Sure, but they work for me.
:)
>>521395904yeah I dont have anything at that BR and I have zero idea how the fuck to do -or know, really- anything about high tier with advances missiles and such.
>>521395849
Isn't ESS just diesel sprayed into the hottest part of the exhaust manifold?
>>521393757>>521396309they only added the achievements within the last year or two and they only started counting progress from 0 after the achievements were added
>>521395956its a fat fuck plane that isnt very fast, but has a good radar and lots of good missiles and tvc is a meme for 1v1s if you gave the su27sm r-77-1 it would outclass it
>>521397030Not exactly, there's separate turbine thing. But yeah it's just vaporized mistifed fuel.
>>521389258??
I like how the tank shook a bit btw are you supposed to aim center mass when u can vs lots of ww2 stuff in these very high pen solid shot french/brit shits so you can try to 1hit with the spall?
>need close support spaa>take ifv and bolt a radar on it
Why are the AirSim Battles stats so much skewed towards US and Israel, compared to the RB stats where they're some of the lowest WR rates?
>>521397738Literally how most SPAA are played already.
>>521396549yesback in 2011, during my mandatory conscription service, I watched over a mechanized infantry assault performed by BMP-2s.While the field was blanked in white smoke from both the diesel based ESS and smoke canisters launched by the BMPs, I could still see every thermal spot with minimal obstruction, ESS has the least amouth of effect while the canisters caused some obstruction since they were some 200-300m in front of the assault.and this was 14 years ago, I have no doubt that modern day thermals could see past that shit with ease,
>>521397889>those germutt and shitalian WRsHoly FUCKING skill issue. Imagine doing this bad with the second-best plane in the game after the Rafale.
>>521397889because retard/bots dont play sim
>>521397030i know ships used to do it by fiddling with the air/fuel mixture to (effectively) roll coal
>>521397889US ARB is full of bots and turdworldersUS ASB is where the real players go
I wonder how active thermal camouflage would work in the game very poorly for balance purposes))))))))))
>diesel can roll coal on cyclists and teslas>gaysoline can't diesel wins
>>521398448>tone down brightness of vehicle when viewed through thermal sightscall it a day, get back to finetuning the prompts for AI generated pfps
>>521377058I want the Montana personally. Maybe the Super Yamato too, but I’m not sure that’d be all that super with six guns and probably a 1.5rpm if we’re being generous.
>>521398685I guess making the tank transparent on thermals would be too hard to code
>>521399134clueless why is this car driving across a warzone
>>521383598Right now it’s ammo wetting that’s important since a fire in your barbette will sometimes destroy the entire ship before you can start firefighting. It’ll also pop shell rooms very quickly even if they aren’t in the barbette, which now have an explosion scaling with the total filler equivalent of all shells in the module. So stock grinds are ass and you should only bring half ammo on all ships with only a handful of HE.
>>521399134I can imagine this being the most obnoxious niggerwagon in night battles
>>521399134>disguising an IFV as a caryeah, because that totally would never be shot at...
>>521397889I don't know what's up with the eurofighters shitting the bed in that image. Aside from that it's a mix of superior NATO avionics, mixed matchmaking in air RB, and the propensity of the average amerimutt player in air RB to be a basebombing retard.In sim battles there are no nametags helping with situational awareness, and NATO completely fucking mogs redfor in the radar and RWR department until basically 14.0. NATO being easymode is completely fucking true all the way up until finally the Su-30 breaks the combo. USA is always on the blueteam and enjoys the NATO advantage. A handful of minor NATO nations are fence sitters that get occasionally placed on the red team and consequently get their winrate dragged down because of that. So basically nobody queued up for redfor which led to complete nato dominance with near perfect win rates for nations that are guaranteed to be on bluefor since the blue team would have both the tech advantage and the numbers advantage in the match.In air RB the average mutt is a base bomber. They fully laden their planes with bombs whenever they can. Not the precision smart bombs that they can drop on targets from half a map away. Not even CCRP drops from higher altitudes/longer distances. They rush to the bases like lemmings to perform point blank CCIP drops. They do this because they REFUSE to risk a teammate kill the base first. So they take the most suicidal approach where their only real defense against fox3s is to pray that their RWR is beeping because the fox3 is aimed at a teammate and not themselves. Since teams are of equal size in air RB, nations are mixed in air RB, and USA players are most likely to be basebombing niggers, then the team with the most americans is the team that is most likely to be full of useless basebombing niggers and consequently is the team most likely to lose.
>>521399134I mean how about we get proper thermals first, that are not just color filter.
>>521399134I'm pretty sure that disguising your military assets as civilian ones violates some kind of accord.
>>521399134>how are you doing fellow cars?)))))
>>521400069russia does that all the time so it's fine
>>521397171Arguing that the Su-30SM is better than the EFT in BVR (aka what ARB mostly consists of, admittedly) is a fool's errand when it has the T/W ratio it does and like 3/4 the range against maneuvering targets with its missiles, however, consider this: you can make just about anything at the very least not die against just about anything else in BVR by playing it right (notching, recommitting at the right time, keeping pressure, etc), but there's simply no way to make a brick win against a UFO in WVR. In other words, the difference between a "good" and a "bad" plane in BVR is 60% WR vs 40%, but 99% vs 1% in WVR. THAT's why WVR is so important when comparing planes: it's simply where the differences between them are the most pronounced and the most relevant to the outcome, and its why I value the Su-30SM's WVR performance more than the EFT's BVR performance .
>>521396905There's definitely a learning curve where you have to map controls for all of the sensors and learn how to interpret the warnings and take appropriate defensive action against the missile hell. But the GPS guided GBU-39s are piss easy to use against stationary targets once you get within the maximum range of your thermal pod (30km). Literally a point-and-click adventure. The only extra step that I forgot to mention was that you need to be below mach 1 as a requirement for making the drops. For planes at altitude and near mach 1, the range of these glide bombs vastly eclipses the 30km range that is the maximum that the pod has for designating target points.
>>521400457Su-30SM has 1 gimmick in wvr but generally loses
>>521399884Its not even like its over a small amount of fights either!
noo don't do it
>in game: ammunition detonated>look at the hit in the analysis>it didn't happen
>playing game>having no problems>suddenly framerate drops to about 20huh?
>>521399134>Why is of car in middle of field?>shoot it
>>521401908In naval recently I’ve had several ships detonate before my shells visually reached them. Then in other games they will never detonate even on perfectly aimed salvos. No way they rig it to put you on hot and cold streaks though, they’ve certainly never admitted to doing shit like that before
>CV90 disguises itself as a civilian on thermals>russians shoot at it anyways
>>521397430you gotta remember the layout of crew members and hit the most important/most of them at once>>521400757It's just too much to learn and gunfighting > missile slinging any day anyway. I just have zero fun whatsoever whenever missiles are involved.
>>521402938idk if any shot would have 1hit him there, maybe in the lfp?
>>521403035UFP from the closest angle of the hull to the center of the turret.T34s have tight compartments so it's pretty easy to get a 1 shot turret kill with solid shit
>>521402913I don't think there is a single first or second world military that would see a random civilian car on thermals and not assume "This is a bomb or some shit, double tap it to make sure".
>>521402938>>521403035>>521403258oh the t-34 mbi thought u were quoting this lmao >>521401882solid shot at least french is more powerful than i thought though, 1hits happen pretty regularly anyways u can't do magic cuopola shots to vaporize the whole tank tho but still
>>521321764/sfg/ chads ww@?
>>521397430>btw are you supposed to aim center mass when u can vs lots of ww2 stuff in these very high pen solid shot french/brit shits so you can try to 1hit with the spall?No. You're supposed to shoot so that you will 100% kill their gunner and/or destroy their gun breach if you pen. You can take your time killing the rest of the crew while they're busy seething at their crew slowly changing seats or attempting a repair.Sometimes you can make exceptions for tanks with extremely memorable and easy to destroy ammo racks, like side profile attacks against king tiger ready racks.
>>521403348oh for the VK I dont think you can from that angle
>>521402913media cry war crime
>>521400457I honestly think that the T/W ratio problem is a bigger problem for close range combat for the Su-30. Thrust vectoring can let you do some silly turns, but fundamentally it's very similar to what the harrier and yak-141 could do via VIFFing. It's almost a gimmick trick like the stationary VTOL planes being untargettable by PD radar. A trick that catches people by surprise if they're not expecting it, but isn't very meta. Most of the crazy TVC clips end with the flanker crashing into a hill. It just doesn't have the T/W to quickly recover from the cost of burning all of that energy.In contrast, while it lacks the T/W ratio to give ideal launch conditions for its fox3s, it has the advantage in terms of sheer quantity of missiles. You can more than afford to take shots that probably won't hit. A lot of players are dogshit, so you get a surprising number of long range hits. It's almost like the meme 70km phoenix launches. They shouldn't hit fighters at that range, but you can farm retards all day like that. Even against the competent opponents, they still need to respect the missile. A long range 77-1 can force a competent opponent into a defensive posture that makes them more vulnerable to follow up 77-1's and 27ETs.The Su-30 also has a neat bag of tricks for the 2nd-spawn situation where survivors RTB to resupply with only ~2-4 stragglers on each team. The 27ER is almost unique in that it is one of the only missiles where you can manually reacquire a lock after launch. This makes it hard to notch since if the opponent dares to leave the notch you can simply reacquire target again. Alternatively you can safely shoot an ER at an opponent that is furballing a teammate since you can easily kill the lock if it goes for the teammate or tard wrangle it onto the correct target. 27ETs are great for killing runway campers, and the kh38ML is another option for runway campers if you are a supreme memelord.
>>521401908i miss fishtank s1vehicle for this feel?
I will need this feel described in detail first, please.
>>521402504>time leading up to the event>great games, constantly first place on the leaderboard, beating everyone with just the bolzano>event start>use boosters to get more SL>all of a sudden every match is a battlecruiser match>just a bad time
>>521404678independent eye movement
>>521404797https://wiki.warthunder.com/unit/uk_a1e1_independent
vehicle for this feel? are those harriers or just "generic fiction jet"
>>521404797A1AE1 Independent.
Is the Strasbourg worth getting? Does the extra armor make any significant difference compared to the Dunkirk?
>>521405110Is it a tank? Then the answer is, no.
>R-27ER hits an enemy with pure inertial tracking after they fly behind a mountain
>>521404997those are just harriers
>>521405110Not really no to both.
>>521405110It's alrightNo, lmao
>>521404691Insane how hard the game sucks when the matchmaker decides to fuck you. Coastal can be fun, until it decides to uptier you into 4.x destroyers every match with a Douglas spawning opposite every match. Same thing with destroyers getting fed to heavy and now battle cruisers. Though when you get the rare full downtier in something like a Knox it’s a bit retarded after the HE fuse change. I’d say it should go up but with the mess they’ve made of 5.x this update I think it’s more other stuff needs to go down, but can’t because of coastal. They really just make shit worse every time they touch something.
>>521405110their most interesting feature seems to be that the forward magazine can detonate in its entirety without sinking the shipand if you make it to a cap to rearm, your reloads/repairs/rearming seem to cancel eachother out as you're slowly pummeled to death with only the superfiring turret returning firecant say ive really noticed the difference in terms of survivability, but 1-2 inches here and there is nice (i guess)whether thats worth 45 snailbucks to you i cant tell, its not an efficient grinder and other than Mog/EB/Col(LG in a pinch) the tree isnt really worth investing in unless you're a francophileDunkerque is nice, but no real match for her usual opponents, and the future (Rich and Jean, one of them probably an event reward because fuck you) isnt gonna be great either unless anton decides France is gonna be (one of) the first trees to get a proper 1940s battleshipand even then its just a matter of time before the bigger boats will eclipse them
YF-23 and MiG 1.44 when?
>>521369580First time? Overpenetrations happen, shoot the breach.
>>521406267they also boosted coastal AI aiming by too much
>>521383753alien detected
>>521406729I wanted to grind out the Naval tree in hopes that post war refit Jean will be added at some pointI'm guessing the Richelieu class won't have the best guns or armor compared to the Bismark or South Dakota class?
>>521391323Yeah it's shit currently. 20mm are king(not you 151).
>>521406729The concern for the Richelieus will probably be the terrible wartime reload. The protective scheme is very good, but the wartime reloads were pretty abysmal. Similar situation with the Littorios.
>>521406267>>521406958aiming isn't the right word but after this update the time from>visual detectionto>firing is now practically zero
>>521407338Belt is 13”@15 with a 2” turtleback, good turret and barbette protection. South Dakota probably edges it out a little but shell rooms are an artificial Achilles heel currently so those being in the barbette is a weakness. Bismarck beats it on armor. The guns will have good performance but very possible a terrible reload. South Dakota will probably have a 2rpm, but could possibly go 2.5 if they accept Iowa’s firing clock since they claim to discount elevation time in loading and the mounts were materially nearly identical in loading arrangements. Bismarck probably gets at least Bayern’s 2.3, but possibly up to 3 if the wherb out and only care about shell supply rate.
>>521406267>years of hypercompression because speedboats really need 4 whole BRs and its literally impossible to up the max BR for bluewaters>you want decompression???? fuck you, battleships now start at 6.0 (makes 0 difference as cruisers just machine gun them and you still see 7.0s on the regular)>you see! big ships very hard to do right ((((((>>521407437rof is king ))))did you know Sovetsky Soyuz could fire more than 2.5 rounds per minute!
>>521408180It was very nice how after changing ballistic calculations so almost every gun has worse pen at range Kron actually gained several inches at 10-15km and now exceeds the performance of most 14” guns. Certainly realistic, the best ships in the world if only they’d been built
Swedish navy when? I want battleships with copestal spawns
XAXAXAXA
>>521409637wow nice job dude :)
>>521404997>don't even try to disguise the analogy that sandnigs are actual literal demons and USA is the supremely good guy for killing themSupremely based, Netflix.
>>521410417still i think you're supposed to sympathize with them, but that scene is so awesome, they even use nukeshttps://youtu.be/e-W0UWttWEwhumans invading hell or something similar is a really super underitilized setting, and when it is they're portrayed as mega bad guys like here or in avatar, thats why i loved quake 4 as a kid, its finally the humans invading an alien planet
>>521409621destroyer spawns at best, but its more likely you'll be lumped with the cruisers>>521409573>didnt even finish the prototype for the gun)))))))
>>521411643Yeah well, you're supposed to sympathize with the alien cat furries in Avatar but most sane people are rooting for the humans by the end in that movie too.
Really trying my best to enjoy 7.7 France...but fuck me if you don't get the most idiotic teams somehow. You'll be sitting there with 5 or 6 kills under your belt, go to check the scoreboard if you die or see how the nuke is coming along....and discover that half your team already doesn't exist. And it happens CONSTANTLY.
now you know how the bonepartists felt when they attempted to conquer russia
>>521328521No, in a 1- or 2-circke fight on the deck, MiG-15 will win if the pilot knows what he's doing. Sabre has a far better roll rate, but can't outclimb you. Sounds like your Sabre pilot knew exactly what he was doing.
Which ship is the best to make SL right now? is it still the Moffet?
>>521281136when
>>521411643>>521404997>>521410417>Goy, feel sympathy for the LITERAL HELL DEMONSNo.
Scweden should've been a subtree in Germany
you're responding to the lowiq troon btw
>>521415503Yeah. We call it storytelling.
Holy shit, the change from aim-9b to magic 1 is just not fair for the other team kek
>>521416567Wait until you see magic 2.
>>521416194>dragon slopRuined the webm
>>521415084I rate Knox higher. Better br for br
>>521386841so its really just gonna be an event like the WW1 shit? Ill take it but for chrissakes when are we getting more interesting additions to random battles? Cordon off half the map for some easy to defeat SAM activity and leave the gun AA for airfields (no invisible proxy fuse shit neither)
>>521415503I support our (human, i'm not american) troops' hell crusade
>>521417354Thanks, Ill give that boat a go, looks like I already have the wilkinson and Cowell as well so it would make a 4.7 lineup
>>521416194>CHADgon GOLDMade the webm perfect.
>>521415084Knox clears
>>521420237The HE is very good against other destroyers now. SAP isn’t great against cruisers after ballistic changes, though on the 5”/54 that might not be the case. But at br Knox feels stronger than I think it’s ever been, though uptiers are also much harsher
>>521415084>>521417354>>521420421>even considering botes
>>521411643Lmao, reminds me of fucking Salvation Wars.
>kh38mt proven to not existhow will ruspigs cope? what position will gajin take?
>still ZERO ap ammunition for germany tier 3 destroyers
>>521423697>proven to not existhow do you prove a negative?
>>521420918I got Knox for free in the warbonds shop, just free SL for me. However, I do prefer to play Sim if I'm going to farm SL and RP
>>521420918I got them already from crates and wanna make a buttload of SL, if that means playing boats I might as well use them
Too silly for the battlefield
Why does my missile launch itself when I press Space? It didn't do that 3 years ago, I never asked for it to do that, my keybind isn't set to it, so why does it do that?
>>521372664we've been over this>a 105mm Tiger II was never considered.it was napkin sketched but swiftly dismissed for use with an unmodified turret because there wasn't practical operating room for the breech and two loaders plus every other potential issue to do with kludging a new gun without an existing production line into a strained tank production line, so making the design physically viable means Gaijin acquiring further dokumentation or coming up with some extremely well-reasoned "they were definitely going to do this by all circumstantial evidence and/or claims of intent" speculative modeling, with numbers like armor cast thickness pegged to the most immediate equivalent so they're as close to factually irrefutable as possible while also leaning on the balance of existing vehicles.>Panther II... was never intended to mount a 88.indeed, but late remodels of the mainline Panther and by extension the succeeding E-50 were, overcoming the above issue primarily by means of an extended mantlet housing (which might've been likewise applied if the 105mm gun was reconsidered) with additional considerations to expand the turret ring and to modify the breech and/or shell casing dimensions and to add some kind of handling bustle, and the Panther II limped onward as a technical exploration for a potential Panther successor, almost definitely bleeding into the E-series. Thus this is an issue of them being lazy and making a single frankentank instead of a separate Panther II with its two primary turret options of the ausf G and the Turm schmale-blende, a Panther F 88 and perhaps a Panther F 75 with an autoloader, and an E-50 projection from just sticking the F 88 turret with possible additional modifications onto a Panther II hull with the front plate sloped back to 60 degrees. The right thing to do was to remove one tank and add something like four more, but Gaijin is lazy and it's easier to copypaste M40 something Bundesloppa.
>>521423697but it does exist? I'm surprised they didn't add the one with the active radar seeker as well
They should have made the panther 2 in this game the one panther with the really long 75mm since it was more of a real thing than the panther with an 88
>>521426460>"so this steppe warfare is taking place at really long ranges, the KWK 42 L/60 might not be enough in the future. can you make an L/100?" t. Uncle Adolf>UUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, best we can do right now is an L/70 and then we'll definitely look into it>"sehr gut, heil me"it was a brainfart turned brief technical evaluation in which they concluded there was no way the metallurgy or barrel harmonics wouldn't fuck it and either told Hitler that directly which he must have then accepted or they talked around the issue until they were able to never mention it again. The only possible use is to physically joust enemy tanks to death if barrel physics were to be added.
pay up paypigs! OOOOOINK
hehe...sex number...
>>521397889>american pilots are the best in the gamepowerful
>>521427421>if barrel physics were to be added.Give now. I want to swordfight with red enemies.
>>521429774Lorraine 155 vs long schlong panther
>>521397889existing comments notwithstanding>mid WW2 anglo-american winrates on60+ year old Good War fetishizing boomers with established skills and expensive setups clubbing and patting themselves on the back for not speaking German>early USSR, chink winratescheating mandariniggers using external tools to spoof mouseaim without mouseaim, dabbing on boomers at early stages where avionics and advanced maneuvering aren't in play>axis, french, swede winratesnon-boomer non-cheaters dipping their toes into the mode without much or any setup being eaten alive by said hyperadvantaged boomers and cheating yellow niggerssource: I don't play any Sim, it was revealed to me in a dream
>>521428609Wake me up when the VRCC is back
>>521430869I mean its kind of genius, the instructor doesnt touch anything but player input and the flight model is the same in rb and sim, so third party instructor for sim ends up working just fine and its impossible to detect
>teammate crashes into me>crew locked
join LowIQ squad
>>521429774>>521430831imagine going full bore and slamming your barrel against a building wall, rendering it useless until you repair it.
>>521427421>if barrel physics were to be addedKellys heroes momenthttps://youtu.be/T1eFePf6mWM?t=50
>>521435637I just can't even imagine how much worse it'd be for the Soviets and some bongoloid 17lbers, front turret gun overhangs as long as the tank and all. Would be seeing even more reverse drivers in no time I'm sure
I feel like the F/A-18C Late should be faster
>>521438702You can only go so fast with a plane that has straight wings
>>521434061Do chuubas ever play War Thunder?
>>521430869
>>521435357Imagine touching tips with your bro before battle for good luck (no homo).
>>521397889Im not autistic enough to get a set up for sim nor interested in it, but I do know US pilots shit the bed really fucking bad in AirRB, despite having the best planes.
>current: Mirage IIIC>new grind tom: Mirage 5BA (241,694/260k) last jet to get out rank 7 kino (+ bonus ace)4 jets left till rafale
>>521280939Just unlocked the yak-9k, my friend has been abusing this for a month, doing well even when bringing it to 8.7 games, convince me not to talisman it
>>521446082You would be giving money to Anton.
>>521446082Tier is too low, better spend that money on a premium plane, I hear the Su-11 goes for low prices these days and there's a sale coming soon.
>>521446512Too late, antons given me some of his precious golden eagles to spend on his vehicles>>521446914Fair, tho I should have my squadron research set to a Russian jet, so late air should be set
>>521450515Truth nuke, visualized
>>521450515'uth 'uke
>>521450515
>>521450515An image truly is worth a thousand words
>>521450515The MVTHER of all TRVTHNVKES.
>>521450515What BR?
>all minutes apartnot even ukrainian whores are this sloppy
>>521451538It replaces the 2S38, no refunds
>>521451627I fucking hated that everyone on the entente side would just camp on that one single hill and never bother to even try to take caps unless you had the odd garford or chammond that would actually try to push an objective but usually would fail to hold it because the rest of the team was doing fuck all stroking each other off on nigger hill by A.
>>521451967It really just boiled down to the A7V just being a monster compared to everything else. The firing arc alone made it much better than the competition, but then the German 57mm had way more HE filler, way more crew and placement inside the vehicle, much harder to ammo rack. The only downside to it being how tall it was. You could just take the A7V in the open and even if you were caught off guard you could still aim your gun properly and even angle. The moment you take the Chamond in the open you were either killed immediately or your ability to turn was disabled and you cant aim with like 10 degrees of gun traverse. The Mark V was pretty tanky for what it was, but having to select the guns was awkward and the Germans had the better version with the German 57mm on top of the A7V. The best bet was to just thin the A7V numbers and hope the German side quit or ran out of SP before getting caps.
>>521452236>hohols are le BADholy reddit
Of course you would know that
>>521450515ox cart trvke
>>521397889its because every american airplane has fuckoff bombloads especially pgms like mass sdbs out the wazoo making it incredibly easy to quickly roll up all the objectives and win the match. all the a-10s are incredibly popular and all of them are perfectly suited for the type of cashit ground objectives in asb. f-15e's can zip in, dump 24 sdbs at fuckoff ranges and rtb before anyone can intercept them if they also have any amount of cap in the way (they usually do because blufor is popular)
Literally what is even the point of armor on tanks in this game when every tank that isn't lobbing HE shells can one-shot you? The only ones that feel like their armor makes a difference are heavy tanks, and a lot of them are dogshit.
>>521368251>>521368493its also the last profile picture made without AI
Grippy my beloved. Best looking plane ever
>>521439754there are a couple low view indies
I unlocked my first dozer blade and now I keep scoring 16th (0 deaths).
I want to like J-7E but its actually a struggle bus to grind withsure its probably the best FM plane in the entire matchand the 4 of the best rear aspect missiles but everyone else already has all-aspect or Radar missilesyou rarely ever get to dog fight in ARB matches
>>521414692Lmao are you in lowiq?
>>521455072>Su-15 but with a delta>Good looking
>>521455072I think the Gripen looks awesome but I think the most aesthetic plane ever made is the Su-37. I'm sure the fact that Ace Combat 4 was what started my interest in military aviation when I was 8 is purely a coincidence.
>>521458539based
>>521458604I know there are other Su-s that have essentially the same fuselage but that livery is pure sex.
>climb>dive on someone outside of view range>from behind>moment my missile starts spooling>they suddenly ((((know))))) and start pre flaringhow do these people """""know""""" every time?
>planes are so based and sex... maybe I should play some snore blunder!>leave after 1 match
>play tanks>have fun>play another 10 games>play planeslop>win one game>dont want to play anymore
>>521458539fulcrum mogs the flanker in aesthetics
>>521458539>SSBBW>AestheticOkay Chubby Chaser.MiG-29 is peak aesthetics for people without african admixture.
>NEEKKERI SATAANAwhat did they mean by that???
ANTOOOOOOOOOON
>>521461339only TRVE White Men can appreciate the slim beauty of the mig...
>>521461935>posts the poverty cope "upgrade" instead of the actual evolution of the Fulcrumlole?
>>521461935>BBC POCCNN
>russian "white" men write BBC on their stuffchecks out
>>521460910>MiG-29>>521461339>>521461935>>521462091>it's smaller overall so it isn't fatIt's the worst of both worlds, fat and short.
>>521462819Fat and Short is the F-16 with conformal tanks.
>>521458539>when the story spends more time following the life of your Nemesis than youI should dust off an emulator and replay it.
>>521463226Once or twice a year I just watch all the cutscenes on youtube. Yellow 13 is one of my favorite characters in any fiction.
>>521428609Why would you want that? Soviets arent lacking for good planes at that BR.
>>521430869>cheating mandariniggers using external tools to spoof mouseaim without mouseaimTell me more about this external tool.
>>521463226>>521463540Also, the fact that Bandai Namco haven't invested resources into remasters of the PS2 trilogy is proof they're retarded and hate money. Especially given how well AC7 sold despite being kind of half baked. I would gladly pay full game price for all three and there are millions who would do the same (almost everyone that bought AC7 just for starters).
>>521464791Are there really that many people that play ace combat?I remember trying one of the older PC ones and dropping it after five minutes because there was no manual roll control. Or maybe I'm mixing that up with some other game.
>>521462351Its not as funny when you know its VVS, or you're not 12.
>>521465101Autistically repeating extremely bad jokes is thread culture.
>>521464874Looked it up and AC7 just hit 6mil units sold a couple months ago
>>521464874>>521465469You might have had it on the wrong control scheme. I forget what they call it but I think it's like "arcade" controls which may even be the default in some of them if I'm not mistaken. It leans much heavier into the arcade flight experience but it definitely has manual roll controls. I wouldn't blame you for dropping it if it didn't. Ace Combat is basically a Japanese attempt at emulating the Top Gun feel and experience (imagine a flight sim getting the Call of Duty treatment) combined with Star Wars OT. There is the equivalent of the "trench run to destroy a super weapon scene" at the end of every game. It actually came full circle with the release of Top Gun: Maverick because the mission they're training for and building up the entire movie is literally your average late game Ace Combat mission and they also collaborated on a pretty dope DLC pack like 3 years after the game came out. It's my favorite gaming franchise alongside Hitman and I can't recommend it highly enough if you like planes and don't hate anime.
It's Saturday /wtg/
>>521465804Thanks, now I need to rewatch the new Top Gun, and need to rewatch the old Top Gun before I can watch the new one.
>>521464470the source is that I made it the fuck up (on the grounds of its extremely plausible existence)
>>521465804Maybe I'll give it a shot when I have some time, a Skies Unknown key is only five bucks or so. If the control scheme isn't infuriating I can see myself enjoying it.
>>521466180Which would by nice, but my upper back hurts really badly. I think I'll just lay on some hard surface and listen to an audiobook all day.
>>521466658I mean they had hacks that could guide MCLOS A2A missiles automatically, recreating mouseaim sounds extremely easy in comparison.
>>521466748Definitely a game you want to play on controller even with the expert controls. The overall narrative in 7 is kind of weak compared to the rest of the series but the gameplay and characters make up for it. It's also gorgeous to look at.
>>521467179Huh, OK, that kinda sucks. I think I still have a PS3 controller somewhere, so I suppose that would work.
>>521467179>Definitely a game you want to play on controller even with the expert controls.I played 7 and then 4, 5, 0 and 3 on mouse and keyboard. You can get by with a controller but as expected, aiming the guns is nigh-impossible. The millisecond you switch to K&M your guns turn from a gimmick to one of your most reliable weapons.
>>521466180>SaturdaySURCOUF SATURDAY!
>>521467435Based. When?
>>521467310Maybe I'll try kbm sometime. I never felt like I had a problem with guns on controller though. I played Project Wingman (also highly recommend) on controller too and the guns are insanely good in that game. I think the guns in AC7 just kind of suck in general. Maybe it had to do with balancing the multiplayer mode.
>>521467435https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei:_The_Witch_of_the_Pacific_Ocean
>>521467616>I played Project Wingman (also highly recommend) on controller too and the guns are insanely good in that game.Bruh just why? It literally has WT's mouse aim and combined with the AoA delimiter it's fucking great. I can't imagine willingly using a controller over this.
>>521467686My parents bought me maybe one or two games a year when I was a kid so I have probably thousands of hours between AC4, 5, Zero, and 6. That was before I switched to PC. My preference is 99% habit and muscle memory. Like I said I'd consider trying it out but that's a hard habit to break. I don't play much air in WT either for what it's worth.
>>521467435>>521467523>>521467680Imagine how awesome it would be to use that in NavalRB, just surface beside the enemy BC's that are full on focused in their aiming sights and blast then right in their ammo-racks.
>>521466180>SaturdayI wanted to grind my German tanks up from 7.7, unfortunately all the weekend shitters are online and I near uninstalled the game after my last match of getting spawncamped.
>>521468203What are you grinding? I recently played the PzH 2000 for the first time in a while because I got a SPG kills task and I forgot how busted it was. You're consistently fighting interwar heavies with 10+ second reloads and low velocity shells compared to your LRF and 5 second autoloader. Also, 8.0 Germany is a nasty lineup so keep grinding homie.
Wheres good on this map? I'm never all that sure where to go on it, and any time I die its due to being shot in the side.
>>521469134If you have a fast enough vehicle the A rush is generally a good option. Otherwise it's kind of an urban brawler map that rewards caution. (In my personal experience)
>>521397889Actual ASB player here. No one here is actually giving the real explanation. >There's no matchmaking for Enduring Confrontation >there are caps on how many players can be on one side>Most players play American>Countries like Japan and Italy are outnumbered in 75% of matches>Typical player count is 9vs5 or 5vs3 in USA's favor>In EC, base bombing does significantly more ticket damage than player kills (though it's the opposite for battle score and events)>Have had games where I go 20:1 in the Ariete or Jap Sabre and still lose the game>picrelMy KDR in the Ariete and Jap Sabre is 5.0, but my winrate is below 50% in both. My KDR in the American Sabre and Crusader is 3.0, but I've got a 100% winrate in the Crusader and 60% in the Sabre. The team with more bombers usually wins the match.Oink.
>>521467310>You can get by with a controller but as expected, aiming the guns is nigh-impossibleThe gun in 7 is fucked, I'll give you that. But gun fighting in the PS2 trilogy was just as natural as everything else after an hour or so of practice.
>>521468124sounds cool, but you're much better off firing a spread of torpedoes you'd have to get there first, which is gonna take a while at 10kts or whatever and with gaijins preference for maps filled with islands and cliffs you're in for quite a dull underwater journeyonce you're in range you better hope anton has decided to reduce the time it took to ready the guns so you dont have to sit for a few minutes after surfacingregardless of whether thats the case you better start praying your target doesnt have a well trained auxiliary/AA crew to pick you off/alert him to your presenceshould you have managed all the above without dying, you realize that even at point blank range most capital ships will shrug off french 203mm fired into their belt
>>521397889>>521469706Forgot to add that I think Israel gets paired with USA in all matchups, so they're just benefiting from all the American zombers. The amount of people flying Israel is probably even lower than Italy or Japan.
I guess we finally reach the peak of top tier air?well maybe once F-2 then F-22 get hereafter that its all F-35 slops from there
>>521470532I don't give a rat's ass how good or bad the F-35 is IRL but it WILL suck ass in this game and there will be exactly 0 reason to play it over the F-22A. The stealth meme doesn't matter at the in-game distances against contemporary PESA/AESA radars, and besides the avionics, it's fucking horrible in terms of both loadouts (6 A2A missiles max of which 2 are AIM-9s so you're looking at 4 ARHs at the most) and flight performance (0 shits were given about it during development, it's a missile bus through and through).That aside, yes, every line in every tree is between 1 and 2 planes away from the very top contenders.
Give Thad-84-3 Oplot
when can we get this in the tech tree
I'm holding off playing Japan tree until Thai sub tree come out
>>521468460Its too frustrating, I decided to just take advantage of it and work on my froggos instead.
>>521469706>>521470083Thanks anon, you're really not painting a ringing endorsement for me to ever get a Sim setup up and running here though if its just continually a one sided stomp!
How can anyone play ground? Don't you get bored? The grind after about tier 4 is fucking insane and just gets even worse.
Got all my R2Y2's sorted, I really liked their guns - they slap things super hard, its like having the German Mk108's but not shit and slow.
>>521471459it's fun
>>521471459But I enjoy playing ground anon? I dont play for the sole purpose of grinding, I play to have a laugh and wreck some shit.
why are mudsuckers like this?
>>521471120considering the state of the F-5T, this thing will be gimped as fuck
>>521471935We enjoy the mud.
>>521471574>its like having the German Mk108's but not shit and slow.that's called an MK103, or for like a single event 110 an MK101
>>521472028its ok they are holding out for the premium Super Tigris
>>521472028F-5T is just missing some dogshit irccmless missiles.The F-16 OCU is an abortion.
>>521471431>if its just continually a one sided stomp!I usually don't care which side wins the match or the RP bonus for winning. I'm clearly most interested in PvP, and that is where ASB shines. I can stomp about 80% of the players without blinking an eye, but when I run into a guy on the other team who knows what he's doing, then it becomes a game of us trying to keep the other off our attackers. I've had some fun and exciting dogfights, and for me, that is what the game is about. I also play Il-2 and DCS, but I think that WT's ASB is the most fun of the three.
>>521472028I wish F-5T can carry 4 missiles instead of 2sure HMD is nice but I still rather have 2 extra missiles
>>521468124>surface>get immediately swiss-cheesed by AI
>>521468124>surface next to a ship with more AI guns than you have crew
>>521473129Whats wrong with the OCU
Whats the 8.0 French lineup? Char, AMX30, DF105, AMX50/Lorainne/Surbaisse, something like that?
>>521475035it shouldn't have HMDit shouldn't have AMRAAMs because it can't guide themit should have additional CMsThey basically added the e(MLU) without G mavs and other guided stuff (and IRIS-T but we don't have them yet) and called it OCU
>>521473534>sure HMD is niceOn planes without HOBS and/or IRCCM missiles and a very limited supply of missiles, HMD is as good as worthless. The value of a single missile is way too high to sling them willy nilly when you only have 2-4 of them yet they're also trivial to flare, which together dictates that you MUST cherry pick the absolute most optimal launches well in advance, meaning you have no need for what HMD offers - quick and dirty target acquisition.
>>521475505I guess the OCU is literally AJ I dont know why they dont just rename the AJ to OCUthen add MLU or something instead
>>521475697don't get it either (other than tree padding)It serves no purpose at 13.7 since japs already have the J(M) and the Gripen (which came the same update as the OCU)
I don't think I'm going to see a sadder sight today than the three He-162's in the last match desperately trying to ground pound pillboxes and medium tanks.
Is this a normal occurrence on middle eastern roads?
I wish this was a portrait ngl
>>521481829yep
>>521471345F16 has one pilot though
>>521471574Is one of the ry2y objectively better than the rest? I heard one has it's engine moved, idk which tho.I mostly play ground
>>521482458Is that actually the chopper pilot who crashed in NY? I bet pol are loving that.
Whats the best American early jets? Correct to start with F2H-2?
>>521484857F-86-25 if everything else feels shit
>>521482965V2 and V3 have less drag but are otherwise functionally identical, V3 turns a little better at speed, but I cant notice it. V1 has those dopey wing nacelles that seem to be a bullet magnet and cut your thrust in half as soon as they get clipped. V3 has the stupid piggy nose like you get on a MiG, V2 has the wingroot air intakes like on some early American jets, and therefore looks coolest.
The T20 is surprisingly goated in uptiers. I'm taking it up in my 6.7 lineup and you're able to outmaneuver basically all enemy mediums (including the T34) and with the stab and low profile you can catch niggers off guard.it's insane how massively more mobile it is than the M4A3E8 despite being only very slightly lighter with the same engine. I'm sure it's a coincidence.
How much better AAM3 is compared to AIM-210?
>>521486050are you high?
>>521486050better off-rail maneuverability, slightly higher G loadthat's it
Why?
>>521486610Yeah, I was wondering that myself a minute ago, thought I was misremembering shit or something.
>>521486316Thanks
>>521486610>>521486801
>>521486610yuri gaygay
>>521487024>>521488107>could have added some throwaway shit mode where you just press a button and a rocket goes up into space>change button
>>521486316Assuming he was asking about AAM-3 vs AIM-9M (because why would you compare a short-range IR missile to a medium-range ARH missile), the former also has a bit less drag and thus a bit more range.
>>521489479>>could have added some throwaway shit mode where you just press a button and a rocket goes up into spaceThere's a background event in the default hangar where Gagarin's rocket lifts off into space.
>>521489697I did not see that.
>>521489529No. I was asking about aam4 vs aim120
Should you still use the API-T belts for the American 50 cals or has that changed over the years?
>>521491738i use pure tracers
>>521491738No, as always you go for explosive rounds wherever possible (so on cannons or crapanese/swegroid HMGs) and API rounds where not (so on HMGs and rifle-caliber MGs).
bonk
>>521493247that was a child
>>521493292I'll kill his brother too
is there any good reason why i shouldnt bottom out every tank that has hydropneumatic suspension as soon as i spawn and go low rider mode?
>>521492968What about I over AP-I?
>>521493668Not really, the Russian tanks all manage it by default.
>>521493668You can only adjust hydropneumatic suspension when stationary so you'll be late to your favorite camping spots.>>521493783Absolutely no reason to take it. Against unarmored targets, API works just as well, but introduce even the slightest bit of protection (just metal sheets that don't even count as armor in the X-ray is enough) and I becomes buttfuck useless.
>>521352765i only play arcade and i am very fond of that plane(i played "realistic" mode a few times but... its just slower arcade IN MY OPINION/EXPERIENCE)so maybe try that plane in AB sometime. you have to use it at the appropriate point in most missions. it's probably not a great first plane for many reasons, but among them is that you have the me262. its has a lower BR (so you can bring it with no penalty) and you can use it to quickly go to the ground. The 5.7 me262 is almost a guaranteed First Strike plane. This draws better planes low (most things are better than it, haha). Yes, your shitty me262 will die eventually, but then you creep in with the Dorito later and its over. Everything of lower BR will die to a spaded Ho229 if youre good, its just such a sick plane (at the same BR, i would fear the yak-17 though!). Its very similar to the me-163B, so maybe try that out for a bit in Arcade to get the feel for the play (extremely close kills like <.3km since youre a super out-turner and are almost immediately behind anyone who approaches you)Just dont bring it as ur first plane, as its slow and an obvious target, and once its dead ur sad and mad about iti love it, its a noob terrorizer and annihilator>t. AB player
I've recently started playing again and I convinced some of my friends to play as well.Is the "Set target for squad" thingy really the only option for spotting/marking enemies for your friends?
>To Battle!
>>521495684pretty muchother than tracers and pinging ofc
>>521495684I use it by my lonesome all the time. It's really handy for pinpointing the locations I'm looking at on the minimap and invaluable for indirect firing when your sight is positioned too low to give you a clear LoS but your ballistics allow you to lob the shells over the hill.
https://youtu.be/o99yPa4Wsss
>>521496462they go from full blossom to bare in a week. one fucking week!
>>521496462based!
Is the F/A-18E going to be an upgrade or a downgrade to the F/A-18C in terms of flight performance? I've heard some really conflicting opinions on the matter.
>>521496462SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP.SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP.SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP.SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>japtranny slopErm... No thanks!
Is Skyflash SUPERTEMP worth using the Tornado over Phantom (uses Skyflash (DF))?
>>521498397later this yearwe will get the F-2 and then we will shut up
>>521499259supertemp is the DF but with more a load extra thrustjust a straight upgrade
>>521496462>F-2lollmao evenHere's another sloppy-paste tree instead))))))
>>521498397No.It will be overtiered dogshit and I will like it.
>>521499259Super has a sustainer so it has longer reach and pull over longer distances. DF is still better at knife fight distances.
>>521498202Going by pilot impressions IRL its gonna be heavier and more draggy in terms of flight performance. Radar, armament and the rest of avionics are different story.
>>521499919>and then we will shut up>things that will never happen
>>521500819So the MiG-29SMT to the F/A-18C's MiG-29 (9-13) except the baseline is way better so the downgrade won't be quite as horrific?
>>521501024Yeah lets hope the missiles and AESA gonna carry that plane because that airframe is 25% percent larger than legacy hornet and it can only go 1.6 mach
What is the most aesthetic Cold War tank, and why is it the 120mm gun combat tank M103
>>521501859wikipedia isnt a good way to judge plane performance, it will probably be a comparable jump from F-15C to F-15E rather than the mig29's like >>521501024 saidobviously with the caveat of the original f18 being a 12.3 airframe instead of a 13.0 one
>>521502202Original F/A-18 airframe is a 12.7 airframe at the very lowest, that it was moved down to 12.3 for some fucking reason doesn't make it not utterly retarded and undeserved.
>>521502459yea compression or whatever but the planes still sit at the br's they sit atits not like gaijew is ever going to decompress anyway
>>521502987Even without decompression it deserves no lower than 12.7. It's utterly skullfucking the entire matchmaker around it besides full uptiers (where it's still very capable).
>>521502202Super Hornet isn't gonna be faster like F-15E is to F15C tho. F/A-18E/F is gonna have worse flight performance.
>>521501915It needs to put on a skirt if it wants to be aesthetic. The Centurion and Challengers are way better looking because they have side skirts.
>>521504056Nah, I like my tanks lewd.
>>521501915
Really not getting what all the fuss about the P-51-H is, the cannon Corsair is just miles better than it? Ive spaded them both now and I'd far rather fly the Corsair every time.
>want to extend my conscription and enter the exam for some gibs>all the leos are taken and i'll most likely be assigned to an m48not like this bro's
>>521504518Go above 4k
>>521504056for me, it's skirtless
>>521503385why wouldnt it be faster? it has much more powerful engines
>>521504518>i NEED le overwhelming armament))))))))))))))))))))) to do anything because I'm too shit to outplay the enemy and get any amount of time on targetHoly skill issue.
>>521504640>Go above 4kNo? You're only up there for like a minute and then everyone dives to the deck anyway. What are you gonna do, sit up there on your own playing with your dink? >>521504806Nothing wrong with overwhelming armament if it means that anything that hits just disintegrates the enemy plane. Do you also use all AP rounds as well just so you can show how "skilled" you are?
>>521504806you're only saying this because of a crippling case of mutt derangement syndrome
>>521505123Now you can spend the whole 25 minutes above 6k and the enemy can't end the game
I exclusive use ball rounds for extra skill
>>521504752I need this as a modification immediately
>>521504752That clearly has a miniskirt, anon
>>521505123>Do you also use all AP rounds as well just so you can show how "skilled" you are?No, I simply play the plane variants that have the best flight performance for their BRs and deal with the minor inconvenience that are worse guns.
>>521505330You mean as a new vehicle?)))>here's your totally new TKX (P) (Early) Xir)))))))))))))))
really nice tank
>>521504782It would be faster with more powerful engines if the airframe stay the same but Super Hornet (E/F model) is bigger in every dimension wings have dogtooth on the leading edge to attach flow for longer at high AoA and square intakes are bigger (more draggy) to accommodate bigger engine air requirements every thing adds up
>>521505590They're not the same BR, the P51-H is 6.3 the F4U-4B is 5.7, and so cannot get dragged into ever early jet match on the planet.
why do the muttoids get P-40s at 2.7?
probably the same reason russoids tree is filled with ufo's
>>521506553Chinks, French and Soviets get them also wdym?
>>521505789it used to be better before br changes
>>521506776trvke
>>521506829it's blatantly undertiered alongside the corsair
>>521507010So what? So are Yak-3's.
>>521506863I just finished spading it.my k/d for all my abrams is like 2 to 1 lmao and winrate is like 38%haven't bought the clickbait yet. Maybe I'll wait for a sale
>>521508136*2 deaths to 1 kill
>>521508136How on earth do you put up with the teams?
>>521507010If you think p-40 at 2.7 is undertiered what about 2.3 yak-1 that rapes everything that moves?
>>521508634chemicals
Damn this thing loves to flop about when you land it.
didn't expect the mauler to be so funny in air battles
Is there a reason why SB2C-5's are so unbelievably handheld in this game?
>>521509763Imagine using cannons, dont you know only elite players use MG's only to show off their pure skill?
>>521510013it's more fun to launch massive wing deleting sharts than pissing through the RNG hose that is MG fire
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>6x 20mm cannons>can only climb at 10m/s>more powerful than a P-47>weighs less than a P-47>somehow slower and less maneuverable what BR for the XF8B?
>bug report of a vehicle missing armor thickness >gaijin: i sleep>bug report of a shitstain on the loader's pants not being of the proper color>gaijin: real shit
>>521511070B-17/B-29 Vertical stab on a fighter... SEXO
>7.0>full downtier>can't find any red niggers to kill>find out a single Obj. 268 has locked down the entire enemy teamI don't know why I stopped grinding out Russian TDs, the 268 is retardedly strong
what's your favorite set of guns that you wish you could put on every other plane
>>521513164Has to be a toss-up between the GSh-30-6 and the GAU-12/U. Both have excellent volume of fire but it's hard to choose between the former's nuke rounds and the latter's demented muzzle velocity and energy retention. If I HAVE to be somewhat reasonable and pick something less unwieldy, then either the GSh-30-2 or the 25 mm ADEN (basically younger cousins of the above).
>>521514354Swedish 13mm for props and m61 for supersonics
>>521511473>Type 10 steering still bugged>pneumatic suspension at lowest position still bugging into the ground>Type 10 still slow>Type 90 wrong sight magnification>F-5T 4 missile capability (acknowledged and passed)>...>Type 10 has wrong track model>instantly fixed next update
>>521513164the octuple 7.92mm on the GI
>>521514610is there something im missing about swedish 13m?? they seem painfully average
>>521515196HE shells
>>521515196Nuke (for the caliber) HE rounds. And unlike similar rounds used by Japanese HMGs, the belts are full of them.
>>521513164Vulcan ofc
>>521513164why not just take the quad FMC T-160s from the f-86f-2?4*1500 rpm instead of 2x1700rpm with otherwise identical performance
>in test range dicking around with the Swedish marketplace F-5 that has that big Anti-Ship missile>try dropping it too close to the water>it crashes into the water, makes like a dozen explosion sounds >keeps traveling underwater like a torpedo>then suddenly jumps out and continues flying towards the ship and still hits it
>>521517575I like the ~10 seconds of trigger time of the M39A2s, the ones you're talking about can only fire for 4.6 seconds
Why is it that my t-34 gets one shot from the front so often but when I'm shooting at t-34s from the front and side I get ricochets?
>>521517690Well Eurofighters used to be able to fly below ground
>>521517942bad opinion
is anyone able to get nvidia photo mode 'super resolution' to work? it used to be called nvidia ansel and would let you scale up screenshot resolutions yes i know the game isnt open, when i open it the resolution slider disappears completely and only lets me select filters
>>52151519620mm minengeschoss shell damage but with .50 cal ammo counts
Have any of you bought one of those """lego"""" tank kits from aliexpress?
I avoid chinkshit in all its forms.
>>521483238no that one had a tranny pilot
is it me or is France 8.0 kind of good now?
>>521519384you probably ate like 5 over just the last year alone
>>521520494No. It's unlikely.
I'm relapsing hard.Is the F86F-35 worth getting if you've already got sabre experience and need to grind America?
Swedish Abrams soon
>>521523846that abrams belongs to the earth
>>521522554No. It's just sabre
>>521524052>>521524052>>521524052>>521524052
>>521434061
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>>521506553why do japoids get Ki-43s at 2.7?
